December 7, 2023 • 36 mins
He's here. Mitchum Huntzberger is here! The incredible Gregg Henry portrayed Mitchum perfectly and we're getting ALL the inside juice.
We're talking father/son scenes with Matt Czuchry, going head to head in a bathroom with Ed Hermann (Richard) and of course Mitchum and Rory.
Plus, you need to know what "TEAM" Gregg is on!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I am all in. Let's kiss you.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
I am all in with Scott Patterson an iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
Hey Everybody, Scott Patterson, I am all In podcast, iHeartRadio,
iHeart Media, iHeart Podcasts. One on one interview with the
one and only Greg Henry, who portrays the lovable Mitchem Huntsberger.
He is the father of Logan. We all know who
he is. Let's get to know Greg a little bit
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better before we bring him on. He's best known for
his performance as serial killer Dennis Raider in the television
film The Hunt for the BTK Killer, and for playing
various heavies in various films such as Payback nineteen ninety nine,
Marvel Studios, Guardians of the Galaxy films, Brian de Palmer's
Body Double nineteen eighty four, The Ladder, of whom Henry
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has collaborated with frequently over the years, acting in six
DiPalma films. He has been featured in over seventy five
television programs, including The Richies, Firefly, Chicago, Mad twenty four, Airwolf, CSI,
Crime Scene Investigation, Murder, Schroke, Gilmore Girls, matt Lock, In
the Heat of the Night, and so on and so on,
and so on. He played the roles of Dobbs in
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the USA Network series White Collar and Hollis Doyle in
the ABC's series Scandal. In twenty thirteen, he played Detective
Carl Redick in The Killing. In twenty fourteen, he had
a small role in the Marvel film Guardians and the
Galaxy as well as its sequels, is Peter Quill's grandfather.
He appeared in recurring roles in Hell on Wheels and
the following He also portrayed the title role in Shakespeare's
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Julius Caesar in twenty and seventeens Shakespeare in the Park
in New York City. I give you, ladies and gentlemen,
the one, the only Greg henry Man. I've been reading
articles about you. I've been trying to catch up all
your all your stuff. I get.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
I get to wear my hat backwards on this, you know,
because let's face it.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
When.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
That is correct. So look, thanks for joining us. Uh
so we'll just get started here.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
You are.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
You know, we're getting some real opinions about your character
on this show. So I'm glad you're here so we
could dive in and hear what your your thoughts are
an opinion, So let's take it from the beginning. How
did you get the role?
Speaker 2 (02:39):
I got offered the role.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Nice.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
It's one of those you know, when those things work out,
it's always so nice.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
You know.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
There's like rumors going around and like, oh, actors would
much rather read for the part.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
And no, no way.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
It's much nicer for them to call up and you say, yeah, yes,
I'd love to yes.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
So yeah, so you so they just ordered to tell
us about how you saw mitcham how you interpreted the role,
because it's in the writing, right And I always found
that Amy and Dan's writing was so ultra specific that
you didn't really need to do much with it. I mean,
it's just there on the page. So how did you
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approach this role?
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Yeah, Well, first of all, I totally agree about their writing.
It's so clear and specific and uh and uh and
musical and unique and and uh and that's you know,
what was exciting about the part is the language, first
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of all. But then they then it was in terms
of Mitch and I.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
You know, I I looked at him and his uh a.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
Guy who's doing his job and is trying to in
trying to do his best to help uh young Rory
in the in the situation that he's put in, and
uh and and believes believes all of his advice to her,
and uh and I think it's some good advice to
her times of course, where the opinion's part is where
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it's where I say, I don't I don't think you
got it. I don't think you can cut it. And that,
of course is a great great smack to all the
fans and to Rory herself.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
But then then it sort of escalates, as as.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
I guess, uh, the relationship of Logan and Rory escalated,
and so I it was then other things kind of
became clear about him, you know, that we're that he
that was kind of revealed actually that he had a
harder line about sort of family and class and that
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sort of thing than then I originally thought when I
originally started working on it, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Hm, Right, things came out in scripts that you hadn't
seen yet, Yeah, right, you're right. Yeah, that was a
big scene. I think one of the most satisfying scenes
that I have witnessed so far. And because I'm only
up to season six, episode nine at this point, because
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I never saw the show, I never watched the show.
I mean I saw the pilot obviously, but I and
I was forced to see one of the Netflix iterations
because I had to go to the premiere and I
was forced to sit in the theater and watch it.
I usually excuse myself and go to the bar next
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door or something, because I want to avoid it, all
the pain.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
They're taking a great weight off of my shoulders.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
Because I was going to say, my knowledge is not
encyclopedic of the whole show.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Nora is mine.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
I know the fans are so wonderfully dedicated and their
knowledge is encyclopedic.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
So right it is. But one of the more satisfying
and bizarre and funny scenes I ever have ever seen
on that show or any show, was when Logan brings
Rory to the Huntsburger home for dinner. It was divine,
It was existential, surreal, anything you want to throw at it,
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it was. It was just beautiful filmmaking. It was unbelievably funny,
and the woman who plays your wife was hysterical. It
was hysterical. I haven't laughed that hard at that show.
With all the stick and all the jokes, all the joking,
just that scene provided more comedy for me than anything
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I've seen on that show. And I mean, she got
eaten alive in that scene. And I guess Mitcham is
basing her inability to defend herself at that dinner and
her inability to speak up in a meeting with you,
in attendance with other newspaper employees about ideas and stories
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and this kind of thing. So you determined that she
just wasn't cut out for this business because she's not assertive,
you know, she's not a go getter.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
She's not you know, I you know, I think that
that's very much part of the assessment, you know, not
just her writing skills, but the whole package.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
Right, And now we're gonna let's talk about Matt Zukri,
who I find to be Mattie Alphabet, Matt terrific guy,
h terrific actor. And just I think that's the thing
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that people don't realize how good he is, because if
he can stand with you. And the one thing I
do remember that I haven't seen that I haven't seen
the episode, but the Malibu fallout in the Malibu, Yeah,
the Malibu. That scene to me was, I mean, if
if Maddie can stand up to you and go back
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and forth like that, with that level of ferocity. I thought, Wow,
there's there's more than meets the eye here. This kid
really has some skills if he can do that, because
that's hard to do.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
Oh, he has big skills. And he's a you know,
just real talent. But he's a real hard worker too
at what he does. You know, he's like he's very very.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Intent on that.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
It was still while maintaining you know, very you know,
sort of cool equili delibrium you know, on.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Set and everything.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
You know, he's great to talk with and everything, and
and it's funny.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
I I have.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
A good buddy that's works with him on The Resident
for all those years and talks about how he's just
his work thick, you know, just amazing, and in that's
in that scene I recall just just you know, having
fun is just like the gates.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
The gates went up and off we went.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
You know.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
The thing, the thing I appreciate about his work so
much is how like all of that hard work pays
off and how smooth his delivery is and how effortless
and how easy it is. And it's just I love
watching that kid. I really do that scene between you
two guys, is just the class. It's you're involved in
classic Gilmore scenes in my estimation, love love, love the work.
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All right, So you're you're, you're, you're in a one
minute conversation with Orys where you tell her she doesn't
have what it takes to be a writer. Uh, and
it changed the direct trajectory of her life. Do you
think Mitcham was too hard Do you think Mitchen does
Greg think Mitchen was too hard on Rory? You the actor,
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you you're the.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Guy given all the fan reaction.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
Absolutely, But if I think on if I think on it,
I I think it was without a second chance, you
know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (10:18):
It was. It was it was a pretty harsh you know,
he didn't he didn't, you know, send it to the
minor leagues for a little while or anything. He really
just said, you're out of here. You know, it's not
going to work for you. And and that sort of
thing is you know, it's said to people in all
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kinds of fields of endeavor, but but but certainly in
show business that's said a lot, right, and uh, and
and that you don't have it and you're not going
to cut it and now and and those things uh
uh cut deep to use a phrase, so it's like
it's they are life changing. I've known him to be
life changing for a lot of people, and uh and
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and life changing for periods of my life and you
know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
So mm hmm. There's another scene you do with ed
Herman in the bathroom. Richard confronts you and you come
clean about offering her an internship and how your family
treated Rory to dinner. How do you remember what do
you remember most about working with that and that scene?
Speaker 3 (11:24):
If you remember, He's just a wonderful guy and I
was a fan of his work, you know, and so
it was it was just a great thrill, and he
was he was quite funny on the set and very
sort of you know, he's he plays all these kind
of very close to the best tight guys, you know,
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and I didn't find him to be that way, and
I found him to be, you know, very very fun
and and.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
And again not a lot of you know, there there
wasn't a lot.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
Of razzle dazzle or discussion or anything. It was it
was just kind of let's play and we did.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
Yeah, you think you were pushing you think Mitcham was
pushing logan too hard to get into the business.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
I mean, I think he's I think he was a
harsh critic of his son, and I think he's a tough,
a tough father to have.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
I think that that's certainly true.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
How many newspapers did mitcham control? How powerful? How wealthy
was he?
Speaker 2 (12:39):
Well?
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Was he a billionaire? Was he what level was he
Rupert Murdoch level? I don't think he was.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
I don't know, But that's what's just kind of my understanding.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
My understanding was kind of because he was so personally involved,
you know what I mean, because he.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
Was so.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
Tight on with you know, who is writing, who's the assistant,
who is and how they're sort of like restructuring this
business and everything. To me, it seemed like it was
a lesser empire, an empire, but a lesser.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Okay, but certainly significantly greater than the Gilmore Empire, I
think so, right right, Yeah, so you you actually got
to work getting back to Matt's Matty Matty alphabet. You
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got to do an episode with him in the Resident.
What was that reunion?
Speaker 2 (13:40):
Like, Well, that was reunion was just us saying hello,
we didn't act together in that thing.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
Oh you didn't you didn't do an episode.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
Somebody else, So that all this that stuff was with
my good buddy Bruce Greenwood. But but Maddie and I,
you know, we we got to spend a little little
bit of time together saying hey and catching up.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
And I ran into Bruce green where we did a
Batman film together, animated film together. He voiced Batman and
I voiced a couple other characters, and there was this
big premiere. He told me about you guys have a band,
and that you you play, you play out and you
you have you have some kind of very special band.
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Tell us a little bit about that.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
But we do a lot of music, you know, the
definition of a not a band. I'm I'm a I'm
a songwriter. I'm a singer songwriter and and Bruce is
also a great singer songwriter. And we sort of shared
that sort of passion of music and uh and uh
and through a lot of jam sessions in that and
uh and Bruce was very good at.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
Well, very good at a lot of things. He's kind
of a renaissance man.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
But but he's good at these sort of engineering and
recording and you know, which I don't particularly excel at
but so he Uh. So, we worked on a couple
of CDs that I had of my songs, and uh and.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
I was, yeah, I was.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
I was gigging out, you know, about once every two
months or something like that that at that point in
time at Genghis Cohen and uh and and Bar five
and some other places and uh uh and and he'd come,
you know, and and sing with me. But it was
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all my songs, right and then uh and I'm a
piano player, he's a guitar player, and you know there's
the they feud for life.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
You know.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
So uh but any rate, uh So, on the second
sort of CD that we worked on together, he he
was shooting, uh, oh god, what was it?
Speaker 2 (15:51):
Hollywood Homicide.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
I can't remember the title exactly, but it was a
movie with Dwight Yoakam and we were doing the master
mix on it, and he uh he asked why if
he would listen to something, and Dwight said okay, So
he listened and uh and then like two days later
he called up and he listened to one song. And
two days later he called up and said, you mind,
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I think Greg in mind if I recorded that song?
Speaker 1 (16:17):
Oh nice?
Speaker 2 (16:18):
And uh uh yeah, I would mind.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
No, no way, not you.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
So so Greenwood has always been my sort of my
my promoter, my producer, my uh my partner.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
In all of that.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
But but we don't have a band like to my
left on bass and to my right.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
Wait, what happened with the Dwight Yoga song? Did he
record it? Oh?
Speaker 2 (16:47):
Yeah he did. I mean, you know, for a long time.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
On an album, whether he recorded it for like seven months,
six months something like that, we didn't know whether he
recorded it. And then and then he called us up
and said, you know, you guys could come out to
the studio and listen to what we've done with it.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
And we went out to the studio and.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
Listened and uh and it was, you know, it was
like one of those things where, uh, I I didn't
know quite what I imagined, but it was it was so much.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
More than I imagine.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
It was just you know, this just the waterworks are
coming down and uh so, you know, it was like
so fulfilling and uh uh and we walked away, you know,
clicking our heels and shouting woohoo and like it's.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
Definitely made the album. They right, And so then we
go to see him.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
He's playing at the at the Henry Fonda and uh
in a in a small tour it's called Dwight Alone.
It was just him and one other guy, an acoustics
sort of tour, and uh we said, well, maybe he's going.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
To play this all, you know, And we get there
and no, he doesn't play it.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
So we go out to the bus afterwards and uh,
you know, say, you know, we're here to see what
And then.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
You know, after they make room, they lead us up
in and he comes out and he goes, oh, I
got something I want to show you.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
I'm like, oh, okay.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
Well we're sitting there in the in.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
The win a Bago in the bus and he comes
out and he pops in a DVD and he plays
video of the song and he said, we're making it
the single.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
Oh my gosh, he made it.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
He made it the first single from the album. The
population me.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
Yeah, what's the name of the song?
Speaker 2 (18:40):
The back of your hand?
Speaker 1 (18:42):
The back of your hand. Oh that's so exciting.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
Oh god, it was.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
Yeah, it was goodnight for for for both of us,
for all of us, and so uh yeah, and it
went well.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
The video did very well.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
The video was like number one on country music television.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Oh my gosh, so you must have been. Did you
get flooded with offers and no, go down to Nashville work?
Speaker 3 (19:07):
You know?
Speaker 2 (19:07):
You know, I went down to Nashville. I ended up
signing with a you know, a.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
Publisher there to uh, to manage my catalog and stuff
like that.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
I have the publishing on my stuff.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
Is it Warner Chapel?
Speaker 3 (19:20):
It wasn't Warner Chapel. Had a very nice meeting with
Warner Chapel, but I went with Music. It was a
smaller company which has since been bought up by the.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
Big behemoth BMG. But yeah, but it was, it was
very it was a very exciting time.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
And so yeah, that's very exciting.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
That song got a lot of play and then got on.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
Country Music, Television's Greatest Hits, got on Dwight's Greatest Hits
of the twenty first century.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
So it's good for you.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Yeah, that's fun.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
Yeah. So, so how's it been going with the song?
Speaker 2 (19:58):
In my music?
Speaker 3 (19:59):
You got to go to Greg Lee, Henry, you can
go anywhere like Spotify, Apple, but my middle name.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
So has that continued? Have other artists recorded your stuff?
Speaker 3 (20:10):
No, I've spent No. No, other artists have recorded. I
did you know it was played in concert the back
of marine by none other than Taylor Swift.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
Oh my goodness, you can barely.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Hear it for the screaming fans. But that was kind
of a thrill, you know.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
So if Taylor Taylor's ever looking again, I immediately wrote
like four for her.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
But you know she's does a pretty good job on
her own, right.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
That's very very exciting. So you played Grandpa Quill in
all three Guardians of the Galaxy movies. How fun is
it to be a part of that cast?
Speaker 2 (20:57):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (20:58):
We know that James gun created all that stuff. That's right.
He wrote, he writes and directs all that stuff. That's that.
Sean Gunn's brother, Sean is involved with all those things.
He just had a big role in the latest movie,
in the latest iteration. You're in these films. Tell us
about this experience being a part of such a brilliant
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and fun film franchise.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
Yeah, it's crazy, it's crazy fun. And I know James
Gun from Slither, which was his first directorial event. And
and and also in that cast was Nathan Fillion and
Michael Rooker.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
And Rooker and Elizabeth Banks.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
And I've spent a few evenings with Rooker. Yeah, I've
been ROOKERD. As I said, of nature, he is a
force of nature for sure.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
Oh my goodness. If you haven't been Rookard, then you have.
Then you're a different kind of person. Once you've been ROOKERD.
Once you've been ROOKERD, you've been rokered man.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
You for life.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
But uh, so I knew, you know, And I did
another movie with him, super and I did another couple
of things with James, and so James is the guy
that took me, you know, and uh, you know, cast
me in Slither first of all.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
And and that's how that all sort of began. And
then he called me up. He was in London already
sort of shooting, already shooting.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
And and called up and asked me if I wanted
to play a part and I said yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
I said what's part? And he said Grandpa And I
said grandpa. He's a young grandpa.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
Okay, fine, So so so that's that's how that began.
And then uh it went to London and shot that
and uh and there were always uh you know, we
did a little bit of stuff for the end of
the first episode if you will, Volume one.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
M and uh uh.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
That was a sort of a collection of all the characters,
kind of a doing a while the credits run sort
of thing, you know, which was.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
Never which was never used.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
But I had no idea that, you know, I was
pretty sure James was going to hit it out of
the park with that one, but just how deep, I mean,
I didn't.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
Quite get that, you know.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
And then you know, James is just uh, not only
a brilliant guy, but he's a lovely guy, a warm guy.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
And and uh when.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
He did too, he called up and said, I got something,
but I don't know, it's not much, but come and
and I went. And it was sort of a time
when all the family was there, Jamie Shawn's family was
their brother's father, mother, everybody.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
So that was kind of fun.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
And then the big sort of like idle wave that's
taking over the town.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
Everybody got to play sort of parts.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
And Grandpa was kind of in that because it's the
rare eye that can actually find Grandpa in volume two.
But that's what's called to do to do volume three
and have that little bit it was, which was a
lovely sort of like bookend culmination of the character and
the story. Uh, it was great and being a part
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of you know that gang.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
I mean there's a lot of laughing involved.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
I mean they are all genuinely funny, fun people, good folks.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
All Right, we're going to do something called rapid fire
a bunch of questions. I'm to fire them at you.
You do not have to answer them quickly.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
Oh, this is not a required fire slow answer.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
Yeah, correct? How do you like your coffee? Black? Are
you team Logan? Well, we already know Team Logan, Team
Jess team.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
You should know that.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
I know that I'm team Logan too. Who's your favorite
Gilmour Girls couple? Luke, Laurela, Emily or Richard.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
I think I'm gonna go Luke Laurela.
Speaker 4 (25:38):
You know.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
Would you rather work with Michelle or Kirk Kirk? Why? Oh, well,
obviously you work with it. Would you rather hang out
with Paris Geller or Lane Kim, Paris Galer?
Speaker 2 (25:55):
Was that Lizon?
Speaker 1 (25:56):
Yes? Yeah, Hers, Paris Harvard or Yale? Yale? Or drop
out and live in the poolhouse?
Speaker 2 (26:10):
Well?
Speaker 1 (26:13):
Would you rather attend a DAR event with Emily or
a town meeting with Taylor?
Speaker 2 (26:18):
A town meeting with Taylor? I think still want to
go to a DAR.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
Meeting Gilmore girl's character that you would want as a roommate.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
I don't know. I'll take the kid, I take Maddie.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
There you go. Something in your life. You are all
in on.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Thing in my life. I'm all in on songwriting, which
is the name of this acting. Yeah, I mean, you know, yeah,
writing writing of that, that's what women.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
Who are your influences? Who are your song Who do
you consider to be your favorite songwriters? Who do you
find inspirational?
Speaker 3 (26:58):
Well, uh, a bunch of you know, there's there's lots
of people. But you know, Randy Newman is kind of
my songwriting god. And I was lucky enough to work
with him one time, doing a show called The Education
of Randy Newman down at South Coast Rep, which was
a bunch of his songs. And he was down there
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with us once a week, regaling us with tales and
making us laugh and showing us also what phenomenal ear
and how precise he is. And then we got to
watch him go and conduct at Fox to conduct the
full orchestra, and which was great. He's like, you know,
(27:43):
he reads the score like this, and then he's up
and conducting and and just you know, a wonderful guy
and musically and and lyrically and sort of observation of.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
Life wise, I find him great.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
But but my favorite, my favorite right now is Jason Isbel.
Of course, love Tom Waits, I love Bruce Springsteen, I
love you know, just Merle Hagger, you know all kinds
of people.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
Interesting. Well, good luck, thank you for your time. Keep
writing that sweet music. It is something that I do
as well, Is that right? Oh sure? Yeah? I mean
I Warner Chappel invited me down on several occasions now
to come work with some of their song writers, some
of their artists, and I've never co written before, and
(28:39):
I'm eager to do it, but I just have there's
always been a project that got in the way and
I had to cancel the trip. So I'm going to
try to make it down there in twenty four and
follow through along.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
This is an interesting thing because that was kind of
the thing too, when you know, Bug was saying, well,
come down here will set you with writers, and I
was like, I kind of write them all myself, you know.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
Matter of fact, I remember a Warner.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
Chapel the guy was like, so you wrote these all
by yourself, and I'm like, yeah, I wrote them all
by myself, right, And and they have a different philosophy
down there, right, or an additional philosophy, let's say, of that,
And I didn't. I didn't partake in that either, and
I kind of regret that. You know, I'm going to
(29:32):
the time when the iron was hot, and you know,
I still like to do.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
I mean, I'm eager to have the experience. I'm curious
to see what comes out of it because I've never
I've tried to do it a couple of times with friends,
and it's just like it's like, you know, it's it's
it's because it's such a different process for me than
having anybody in the room. It's about you know, I
don't know how you do it, but I think a
(29:58):
lot of people do it the same. Right, You get
a chord progression, and then a feeling comes, and then
a lyric comes, and then a melody might emerge, and
you know, what comes first doesn't matter. But for me,
it's always been the chord progression and then a lyric
that has to make sense and match to a melody.
And the melody is the hardest part for me. And
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I know some people are There's very few people that
are that gifted that they can nail the melody right
away and it takes a lot of work sometimes, so
but that's how it works. But I am intrigued in
seeing how it works with another person. I really am
intrigued by that. So I'll get down there eventually.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
Yeah. I find it a curious thing as well, because
it's it's interesting.
Speaker 3 (30:46):
One of the things that Dwight and I talked about
in terms of it about writing was that very thing,
the melody thing he says that he says, I always
have to have something to record something because a melody
will come in and go out and it will never
come back right.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
You have to record You always have to have that
thing exactly right.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
And I can't tell you how many times I've gone,
god damnit, he told me right, because you.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
Can't get it back. No, and you can almost get
it back, but you know, it's not that magic, and.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
Most of them just doesn't really count.
Speaker 5 (31:20):
Yeah right right, Yeah, very frustrating. And you know, I've
written things for the for the theater as well. I've
written music and lyrics and composed sort of for a
couple of different musicals and and so there there's a
little bit of a collaboration with the book writer and
you know, and and other people sort of like contributing lyrics.
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But when I, you know, other than you know, and
Greenwood and I have written a couple songs together, but
even all the music that we do together, that's not.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
What we really do together. We don't really do that.
We sort of write individually.
Speaker 4 (32:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
Interesting, All right, Well, look, thanks, I don't want to
take up any more of your time. Thank you. Soul
pleasure much pleasure.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
Man.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
Fans are gonna love this. They are going to love this.
They eat this stuff up. They loved all that behind
the scenes stuff. They love getting to know you, So
thank you.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
One thing I do know for sure, over the years
of beating fans, you know, I've played a lot of
really bad people in show business, you know, doing doing
dastardly things, as villains are to do. But nothing incurs
wrath like the wrath of the fans of when I said, I.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
Don't think you cut it.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
That's serious.
Speaker 3 (32:44):
Yeah, I tipped my hat to the whole project. And
of course Amy, you know, I did the last season
when she was not there when or was you know,
and and the scripts were still fine, but it was
like and it's funny after talking about songwriting and it's
just talking about melody, talking about the little things that
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are different.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
It's a close, but it's not. It's not the music.
It wasn't really really the music. I just think she's
so gifted and she and Dan do such great stuff.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
One thing I did notice about season seven, David Rosenthal
took over. He was a writer on the staff and
he wrote some fantastic episodes. Actually, one of my favorite
episodes or the first six seasons, David Rosenthal wrote. So
he is a gifted, gifted writer in his own right,
but to ask somebody to come in and do that
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is an impossible ask. You're not you can get close,
but it's it's these are voices that Amy and Dan hear.
These are their voices. This cannot be duplicated. And I
thought he did a pretty commendable job. Haven't seen season
seven yet, and I'll opine I guess further. Yeah, I'm
very curious. I thought he really took the brunt of
(34:03):
it unfairly. But yeah, I mean, the fans want what
they want, they got and I mean who you lay
who do you lay that at the feet of right?
Because Amy and Dan left for a very specific reason.
They didn't get the proper deal and they thought they
deserved it, and that was sort of tradition to give
(34:24):
a two year deal instead of a one year deal,
and they just couldn't stomach it. And more power to them, right,
I mean, they they made their they made a choice.
And it's like, hey, you know, business, yes, exactly, the
business side exactly.
Speaker 3 (34:37):
They make that that that choice, and and and again
they all all respect it.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
To David Rosenthal, it's just it's different.
Speaker 3 (34:44):
It's just different almost, you know, in a in a
in that's in that slight way, you.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
Know, mm hmm, yeah, little little differences make a huge
difference in that in that regard. Anyway, thank you so
very much. Great welcome to you, great catching up with you,
good luck with everything.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
Thank you. YouTube.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
Hopefully we can talk to.
Speaker 3 (35:07):
How the how the factory work in Nashville goes, you know,
the whole bridge. No, no, it's the opening line of
the bridge.
Speaker 6 (35:19):
All right, allry, buddy, all right, take care, all right,
take care, bud.
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I am all in with Scott Patterson an iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
Hey Everybody, Scott Patterson, I am all In podcast, iHeartRadio,
iHeart Media, iHeart Podcasts. One on one interview with the
one and only Greg Henry, who portrays the lovable Mitchem Huntsberger.
He is the father of Logan. We all know who
he is. Let's get to know Greg a little bit
(00:42):
better before we bring him on. He's best known for
his performance as serial killer Dennis Raider in the television
film The Hunt for the BTK Killer, and for playing
various heavies in various films such as Payback nineteen ninety nine,
Marvel Studios, Guardians of the Galaxy films, Brian de Palmer's
Body Double nineteen eighty four, The Ladder, of whom Henry
(01:02):
has collaborated with frequently over the years, acting in six
DiPalma films. He has been featured in over seventy five
television programs, including The Richies, Firefly, Chicago, Mad twenty four, Airwolf, CSI,
Crime Scene Investigation, Murder, Schroke, Gilmore Girls, matt Lock, In
the Heat of the Night, and so on and so on,
and so on. He played the roles of Dobbs in
(01:25):
the USA Network series White Collar and Hollis Doyle in
the ABC's series Scandal. In twenty thirteen, he played Detective
Carl Redick in The Killing. In twenty fourteen, he had
a small role in the Marvel film Guardians and the
Galaxy as well as its sequels, is Peter Quill's grandfather.
He appeared in recurring roles in Hell on Wheels and
the following He also portrayed the title role in Shakespeare's
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Julius Caesar in twenty and seventeens Shakespeare in the Park
in New York City. I give you, ladies and gentlemen,
the one, the only Greg henry Man. I've been reading
articles about you. I've been trying to catch up all
your all your stuff. I get.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
I get to wear my hat backwards on this, you know,
because let's face it.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
When.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
That is correct. So look, thanks for joining us. Uh
so we'll just get started here.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
You are.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
You know, we're getting some real opinions about your character
on this show. So I'm glad you're here so we
could dive in and hear what your your thoughts are
an opinion, So let's take it from the beginning. How
did you get the role?
Speaker 2 (02:39):
I got offered the role.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Nice.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
It's one of those you know, when those things work out,
it's always so nice.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
You know.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
There's like rumors going around and like, oh, actors would
much rather read for the part.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
And no, no way.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
It's much nicer for them to call up and you say, yeah, yes,
I'd love to yes.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
So yeah, so you so they just ordered to tell
us about how you saw mitcham how you interpreted the role,
because it's in the writing, right And I always found
that Amy and Dan's writing was so ultra specific that
you didn't really need to do much with it. I mean,
it's just there on the page. So how did you
(03:23):
approach this role?
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Yeah, Well, first of all, I totally agree about their writing.
It's so clear and specific and uh and uh and
musical and unique and and uh and that's you know,
what was exciting about the part is the language, first
(03:47):
of all. But then they then it was in terms
of Mitch and I.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
You know, I I looked at him and his uh a.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
Guy who's doing his job and is trying to in
trying to do his best to help uh young Rory
in the in the situation that he's put in, and
uh and and believes believes all of his advice to her,
and uh and I think it's some good advice to
her times of course, where the opinion's part is where
(04:23):
it's where I say, I don't I don't think you
got it. I don't think you can cut it. And that,
of course is a great great smack to all the
fans and to Rory herself.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
But then then it sort of escalates, as as.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
I guess, uh, the relationship of Logan and Rory escalated,
and so I it was then other things kind of
became clear about him, you know, that we're that he
that was kind of revealed actually that he had a
harder line about sort of family and class and that
(04:58):
sort of thing than then I originally thought when I
originally started working on it, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Hm, Right, things came out in scripts that you hadn't
seen yet, Yeah, right, you're right. Yeah, that was a
big scene. I think one of the most satisfying scenes
that I have witnessed so far. And because I'm only
up to season six, episode nine at this point, because
(05:26):
I never saw the show, I never watched the show.
I mean I saw the pilot obviously, but I and
I was forced to see one of the Netflix iterations
because I had to go to the premiere and I
was forced to sit in the theater and watch it.
I usually excuse myself and go to the bar next
(05:46):
door or something, because I want to avoid it, all
the pain.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
They're taking a great weight off of my shoulders.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
Because I was going to say, my knowledge is not
encyclopedic of the whole show.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Nora is mine.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
I know the fans are so wonderfully dedicated and their
knowledge is encyclopedic.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
So right it is. But one of the more satisfying
and bizarre and funny scenes I ever have ever seen
on that show or any show, was when Logan brings
Rory to the Huntsburger home for dinner. It was divine,
It was existential, surreal, anything you want to throw at it,
(06:28):
it was. It was just beautiful filmmaking. It was unbelievably funny,
and the woman who plays your wife was hysterical. It
was hysterical. I haven't laughed that hard at that show.
With all the stick and all the jokes, all the joking,
just that scene provided more comedy for me than anything
(06:48):
I've seen on that show. And I mean, she got
eaten alive in that scene. And I guess Mitcham is
basing her inability to defend herself at that dinner and
her inability to speak up in a meeting with you,
in attendance with other newspaper employees about ideas and stories
(07:10):
and this kind of thing. So you determined that she
just wasn't cut out for this business because she's not assertive,
you know, she's not a go getter.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
She's not you know, I you know, I think that
that's very much part of the assessment, you know, not
just her writing skills, but the whole package.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
Right, And now we're gonna let's talk about Matt Zukri,
who I find to be Mattie Alphabet, Matt terrific guy,
h terrific actor. And just I think that's the thing
(07:52):
that people don't realize how good he is, because if
he can stand with you. And the one thing I
do remember that I haven't seen that I haven't seen
the episode, but the Malibu fallout in the Malibu, Yeah,
the Malibu. That scene to me was, I mean, if
if Maddie can stand up to you and go back
(08:13):
and forth like that, with that level of ferocity. I thought, Wow,
there's there's more than meets the eye here. This kid
really has some skills if he can do that, because
that's hard to do.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
Oh, he has big skills. And he's a you know,
just real talent. But he's a real hard worker too
at what he does. You know, he's like he's very very.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Intent on that.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
It was still while maintaining you know, very you know,
sort of cool equili delibrium you know, on.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Set and everything.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
You know, he's great to talk with and everything, and
and it's funny.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
I I have.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
A good buddy that's works with him on The Resident
for all those years and talks about how he's just
his work thick, you know, just amazing, and in that's
in that scene I recall just just you know, having
fun is just like the gates.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
The gates went up and off we went.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
You know.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
The thing, the thing I appreciate about his work so
much is how like all of that hard work pays
off and how smooth his delivery is and how effortless
and how easy it is. And it's just I love
watching that kid. I really do that scene between you
two guys, is just the class. It's you're involved in
classic Gilmore scenes in my estimation, love love, love the work.
(09:37):
All right, So you're you're, you're, you're in a one
minute conversation with Orys where you tell her she doesn't
have what it takes to be a writer. Uh, and
it changed the direct trajectory of her life. Do you
think Mitcham was too hard Do you think Mitchen does
Greg think Mitchen was too hard on Rory? You the actor,
(10:02):
you you're the.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Guy given all the fan reaction.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
Absolutely, But if I think on if I think on it,
I I think it was without a second chance, you
know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (10:18):
It was. It was it was a pretty harsh you know,
he didn't he didn't, you know, send it to the
minor leagues for a little while or anything. He really
just said, you're out of here. You know, it's not
going to work for you. And and that sort of
thing is you know, it's said to people in all
(10:39):
kinds of fields of endeavor, but but but certainly in
show business that's said a lot, right, and uh, and
and that you don't have it and you're not going
to cut it and now and and those things uh
uh cut deep to use a phrase, so it's like
it's they are life changing. I've known him to be
life changing for a lot of people, and uh and
(11:01):
and life changing for periods of my life and you
know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
So mm hmm. There's another scene you do with ed
Herman in the bathroom. Richard confronts you and you come
clean about offering her an internship and how your family
treated Rory to dinner. How do you remember what do
you remember most about working with that and that scene?
Speaker 3 (11:24):
If you remember, He's just a wonderful guy and I
was a fan of his work, you know, and so
it was it was just a great thrill, and he
was he was quite funny on the set and very
sort of you know, he's he plays all these kind
of very close to the best tight guys, you know,
(11:47):
and I didn't find him to be that way, and
I found him to be, you know, very very fun
and and.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
And again not a lot of you know, there there
wasn't a lot.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
Of razzle dazzle or discussion or anything. It was it
was just kind of let's play and we did.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
Yeah, you think you were pushing you think Mitcham was
pushing logan too hard to get into the business.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
I mean, I think he's I think he was a
harsh critic of his son, and I think he's a tough,
a tough father to have.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
I think that that's certainly true.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
How many newspapers did mitcham control? How powerful? How wealthy
was he?
Speaker 2 (12:39):
Well?
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Was he a billionaire? Was he what level was he
Rupert Murdoch level? I don't think he was.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
I don't know, But that's what's just kind of my understanding.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
My understanding was kind of because he was so personally involved,
you know what I mean, because he.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
Was so.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
Tight on with you know, who is writing, who's the assistant,
who is and how they're sort of like restructuring this
business and everything. To me, it seemed like it was
a lesser empire, an empire, but a lesser.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Okay, but certainly significantly greater than the Gilmore Empire, I
think so, right right, Yeah, so you you actually got
to work getting back to Matt's Matty Matty alphabet. You
(13:37):
got to do an episode with him in the Resident.
What was that reunion?
Speaker 2 (13:40):
Like, Well, that was reunion was just us saying hello,
we didn't act together in that thing.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
Oh you didn't you didn't do an episode.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
Somebody else, So that all this that stuff was with
my good buddy Bruce Greenwood. But but Maddie and I,
you know, we we got to spend a little little
bit of time together saying hey and catching up.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
And I ran into Bruce green where we did a
Batman film together, animated film together. He voiced Batman and
I voiced a couple other characters, and there was this
big premiere. He told me about you guys have a band,
and that you you play, you play out and you
you have you have some kind of very special band.
(14:22):
Tell us a little bit about that.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
But we do a lot of music, you know, the
definition of a not a band. I'm I'm a I'm
a songwriter. I'm a singer songwriter and and Bruce is
also a great singer songwriter. And we sort of shared
that sort of passion of music and uh and uh
and through a lot of jam sessions in that and
uh and Bruce was very good at.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
Well, very good at a lot of things. He's kind
of a renaissance man.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
But but he's good at these sort of engineering and
recording and you know, which I don't particularly excel at
but so he Uh. So, we worked on a couple
of CDs that I had of my songs, and uh and.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
I was, yeah, I was.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
I was gigging out, you know, about once every two
months or something like that that at that point in
time at Genghis Cohen and uh and and Bar five
and some other places and uh uh and and he'd come,
you know, and and sing with me. But it was
(15:28):
all my songs, right and then uh and I'm a
piano player, he's a guitar player, and you know there's
the they feud for life.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
You know.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
So uh but any rate, uh So, on the second
sort of CD that we worked on together, he he
was shooting, uh, oh god, what was it?
Speaker 2 (15:51):
Hollywood Homicide.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
I can't remember the title exactly, but it was a
movie with Dwight Yoakam and we were doing the master
mix on it, and he uh he asked why if
he would listen to something, and Dwight said okay, So
he listened and uh and then like two days later
he called up and he listened to one song. And
two days later he called up and said, you mind,
(16:14):
I think Greg in mind if I recorded that song?
Speaker 1 (16:17):
Oh nice?
Speaker 2 (16:18):
And uh uh yeah, I would mind.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
No, no way, not you.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
So so Greenwood has always been my sort of my
my promoter, my producer, my uh my partner.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
In all of that.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
But but we don't have a band like to my
left on bass and to my right.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
Wait, what happened with the Dwight Yoga song? Did he
record it? Oh?
Speaker 2 (16:47):
Yeah he did. I mean, you know, for a long time.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
On an album, whether he recorded it for like seven months,
six months something like that, we didn't know whether he
recorded it. And then and then he called us up
and said, you know, you guys could come out to
the studio and listen to what we've done with it.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
And we went out to the studio and.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
Listened and uh and it was, you know, it was
like one of those things where, uh, I I didn't
know quite what I imagined, but it was it was so much.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
More than I imagine.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
It was just you know, this just the waterworks are
coming down and uh so, you know, it was like
so fulfilling and uh uh and we walked away, you know,
clicking our heels and shouting woohoo and like it's.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
Definitely made the album. They right, And so then we
go to see him.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
He's playing at the at the Henry Fonda and uh
in a in a small tour it's called Dwight Alone.
It was just him and one other guy, an acoustics
sort of tour, and uh we said, well, maybe he's going.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
To play this all, you know, And we get there
and no, he doesn't play it.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
So we go out to the bus afterwards and uh,
you know, say, you know, we're here to see what
And then.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
You know, after they make room, they lead us up
in and he comes out and he goes, oh, I
got something I want to show you.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
I'm like, oh, okay.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
Well we're sitting there in the in.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
The win a Bago in the bus and he comes
out and he pops in a DVD and he plays
video of the song and he said, we're making it
the single.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
Oh my gosh, he made it.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
He made it the first single from the album. The
population me.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
Yeah, what's the name of the song?
Speaker 2 (18:40):
The back of your hand?
Speaker 1 (18:42):
The back of your hand. Oh that's so exciting.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
Oh god, it was.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
Yeah, it was goodnight for for for both of us,
for all of us, and so uh yeah, and it
went well.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
The video did very well.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
The video was like number one on country music television.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Oh my gosh, so you must have been. Did you
get flooded with offers and no, go down to Nashville work?
Speaker 3 (19:07):
You know?
Speaker 2 (19:07):
You know, I went down to Nashville. I ended up
signing with a you know, a.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
Publisher there to uh, to manage my catalog and stuff
like that.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
I have the publishing on my stuff.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
Is it Warner Chapel?
Speaker 3 (19:20):
It wasn't Warner Chapel. Had a very nice meeting with
Warner Chapel, but I went with Music. It was a
smaller company which has since been bought up by the.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
Big behemoth BMG. But yeah, but it was, it was
very it was a very exciting time.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
And so yeah, that's very exciting.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
That song got a lot of play and then got on.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
Country Music, Television's Greatest Hits, got on Dwight's Greatest Hits
of the twenty first century.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
So it's good for you.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Yeah, that's fun.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
Yeah. So, so how's it been going with the song?
Speaker 2 (19:58):
In my music?
Speaker 3 (19:59):
You got to go to Greg Lee, Henry, you can
go anywhere like Spotify, Apple, but my middle name.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
So has that continued? Have other artists recorded your stuff?
Speaker 3 (20:10):
No, I've spent No. No, other artists have recorded. I
did you know it was played in concert the back
of marine by none other than Taylor Swift.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
Oh my goodness, you can barely.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Hear it for the screaming fans. But that was kind
of a thrill, you know.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
So if Taylor Taylor's ever looking again, I immediately wrote
like four for her.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
But you know she's does a pretty good job on
her own, right.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
That's very very exciting. So you played Grandpa Quill in
all three Guardians of the Galaxy movies. How fun is
it to be a part of that cast?
Speaker 2 (20:57):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (20:58):
We know that James gun created all that stuff. That's right.
He wrote, he writes and directs all that stuff. That's that.
Sean Gunn's brother, Sean is involved with all those things.
He just had a big role in the latest movie,
in the latest iteration. You're in these films. Tell us
about this experience being a part of such a brilliant
(21:19):
and fun film franchise.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
Yeah, it's crazy, it's crazy fun. And I know James
Gun from Slither, which was his first directorial event. And
and and also in that cast was Nathan Fillion and
Michael Rooker.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
And Rooker and Elizabeth Banks.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
And I've spent a few evenings with Rooker. Yeah, I've
been ROOKERD. As I said, of nature, he is a
force of nature for sure.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
Oh my goodness. If you haven't been Rookard, then you have.
Then you're a different kind of person. Once you've been ROOKERD.
Once you've been ROOKERD, you've been rokered man.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
You for life.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
But uh, so I knew, you know, And I did
another movie with him, super and I did another couple
of things with James, and so James is the guy
that took me, you know, and uh, you know, cast
me in Slither first of all.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
And and that's how that all sort of began. And
then he called me up. He was in London already
sort of shooting, already shooting.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
And and called up and asked me if I wanted
to play a part and I said yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
I said what's part? And he said Grandpa And I
said grandpa. He's a young grandpa.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
Okay, fine, So so so that's that's how that began.
And then uh it went to London and shot that
and uh and there were always uh you know, we
did a little bit of stuff for the end of
the first episode if you will, Volume one.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
M and uh uh.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
That was a sort of a collection of all the characters,
kind of a doing a while the credits run sort
of thing, you know, which was.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
Never which was never used.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
But I had no idea that, you know, I was
pretty sure James was going to hit it out of
the park with that one, but just how deep, I mean,
I didn't.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
Quite get that, you know.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
And then you know, James is just uh, not only
a brilliant guy, but he's a lovely guy, a warm guy.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
And and uh when.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
He did too, he called up and said, I got something,
but I don't know, it's not much, but come and
and I went. And it was sort of a time
when all the family was there, Jamie Shawn's family was
their brother's father, mother, everybody.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
So that was kind of fun.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
And then the big sort of like idle wave that's
taking over the town.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
Everybody got to play sort of parts.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
And Grandpa was kind of in that because it's the
rare eye that can actually find Grandpa in volume two.
But that's what's called to do to do volume three
and have that little bit it was, which was a
lovely sort of like bookend culmination of the character and
the story. Uh, it was great and being a part
(24:47):
of you know that gang.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
I mean there's a lot of laughing involved.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
I mean they are all genuinely funny, fun people, good folks.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
All Right, we're going to do something called rapid fire
a bunch of questions. I'm to fire them at you.
You do not have to answer them quickly.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
Oh, this is not a required fire slow answer.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
Yeah, correct? How do you like your coffee? Black? Are
you team Logan? Well, we already know Team Logan, Team
Jess team.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
You should know that.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
I know that I'm team Logan too. Who's your favorite
Gilmour Girls couple? Luke, Laurela, Emily or Richard.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
I think I'm gonna go Luke Laurela.
Speaker 4 (25:38):
You know.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
Would you rather work with Michelle or Kirk Kirk? Why? Oh, well,
obviously you work with it. Would you rather hang out
with Paris Geller or Lane Kim, Paris Galer?
Speaker 2 (25:55):
Was that Lizon?
Speaker 1 (25:56):
Yes? Yeah, Hers, Paris Harvard or Yale? Yale? Or drop
out and live in the poolhouse?
Speaker 2 (26:10):
Well?
Speaker 1 (26:13):
Would you rather attend a DAR event with Emily or
a town meeting with Taylor?
Speaker 2 (26:18):
A town meeting with Taylor? I think still want to
go to a DAR.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
Meeting Gilmore girl's character that you would want as a roommate.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
I don't know. I'll take the kid, I take Maddie.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
There you go. Something in your life. You are all
in on.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Thing in my life. I'm all in on songwriting, which
is the name of this acting. Yeah, I mean, you know, yeah,
writing writing of that, that's what women.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
Who are your influences? Who are your song Who do
you consider to be your favorite songwriters? Who do you
find inspirational?
Speaker 3 (26:58):
Well, uh, a bunch of you know, there's there's lots
of people. But you know, Randy Newman is kind of
my songwriting god. And I was lucky enough to work
with him one time, doing a show called The Education
of Randy Newman down at South Coast Rep, which was
a bunch of his songs. And he was down there
(27:20):
with us once a week, regaling us with tales and
making us laugh and showing us also what phenomenal ear
and how precise he is. And then we got to
watch him go and conduct at Fox to conduct the
full orchestra, and which was great. He's like, you know,
(27:43):
he reads the score like this, and then he's up
and conducting and and just you know, a wonderful guy
and musically and and lyrically and sort of observation of.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
Life wise, I find him great.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
But but my favorite, my favorite right now is Jason Isbel.
Of course, love Tom Waits, I love Bruce Springsteen, I
love you know, just Merle Hagger, you know all kinds
of people.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
Interesting. Well, good luck, thank you for your time. Keep
writing that sweet music. It is something that I do
as well, Is that right? Oh sure? Yeah? I mean
I Warner Chappel invited me down on several occasions now
to come work with some of their song writers, some
of their artists, and I've never co written before, and
(28:39):
I'm eager to do it, but I just have there's
always been a project that got in the way and
I had to cancel the trip. So I'm going to
try to make it down there in twenty four and
follow through along.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
This is an interesting thing because that was kind of
the thing too, when you know, Bug was saying, well,
come down here will set you with writers, and I
was like, I kind of write them all myself, you know.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
Matter of fact, I remember a Warner.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
Chapel the guy was like, so you wrote these all
by yourself, and I'm like, yeah, I wrote them all
by myself, right, And and they have a different philosophy
down there, right, or an additional philosophy, let's say, of that,
And I didn't. I didn't partake in that either, and
I kind of regret that. You know, I'm going to
(29:32):
the time when the iron was hot, and you know,
I still like to do.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
I mean, I'm eager to have the experience. I'm curious
to see what comes out of it because I've never
I've tried to do it a couple of times with friends,
and it's just like it's like, you know, it's it's
it's because it's such a different process for me than
having anybody in the room. It's about you know, I
don't know how you do it, but I think a
(29:58):
lot of people do it the same. Right, You get
a chord progression, and then a feeling comes, and then
a lyric comes, and then a melody might emerge, and
you know, what comes first doesn't matter. But for me,
it's always been the chord progression and then a lyric
that has to make sense and match to a melody.
And the melody is the hardest part for me. And
(30:21):
I know some people are There's very few people that
are that gifted that they can nail the melody right
away and it takes a lot of work sometimes, so
but that's how it works. But I am intrigued in
seeing how it works with another person. I really am
intrigued by that. So I'll get down there eventually.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
Yeah. I find it a curious thing as well, because
it's it's interesting.
Speaker 3 (30:46):
One of the things that Dwight and I talked about
in terms of it about writing was that very thing,
the melody thing he says that he says, I always
have to have something to record something because a melody
will come in and go out and it will never
come back right.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
You have to record You always have to have that
thing exactly right.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
And I can't tell you how many times I've gone,
god damnit, he told me right, because you.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
Can't get it back. No, and you can almost get
it back, but you know, it's not that magic, and.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
Most of them just doesn't really count.
Speaker 5 (31:20):
Yeah right right, Yeah, very frustrating. And you know, I've
written things for the for the theater as well. I've
written music and lyrics and composed sort of for a
couple of different musicals and and so there there's a
little bit of a collaboration with the book writer and
you know, and and other people sort of like contributing lyrics.
(31:43):
But when I, you know, other than you know, and
Greenwood and I have written a couple songs together, but
even all the music that we do together, that's not.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
What we really do together. We don't really do that.
We sort of write individually.
Speaker 4 (32:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
Interesting, All right, Well, look, thanks, I don't want to
take up any more of your time. Thank you. Soul
pleasure much pleasure.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
Man.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
Fans are gonna love this. They are going to love this.
They eat this stuff up. They loved all that behind
the scenes stuff. They love getting to know you, So
thank you.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
One thing I do know for sure, over the years
of beating fans, you know, I've played a lot of
really bad people in show business, you know, doing doing
dastardly things, as villains are to do. But nothing incurs
wrath like the wrath of the fans of when I said, I.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
Don't think you cut it.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
That's serious.
Speaker 3 (32:44):
Yeah, I tipped my hat to the whole project. And
of course Amy, you know, I did the last season
when she was not there when or was you know,
and and the scripts were still fine, but it was
like and it's funny after talking about songwriting and it's
just talking about melody, talking about the little things that
(33:04):
are different.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
It's a close, but it's not. It's not the music.
It wasn't really really the music. I just think she's
so gifted and she and Dan do such great stuff.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
One thing I did notice about season seven, David Rosenthal
took over. He was a writer on the staff and
he wrote some fantastic episodes. Actually, one of my favorite
episodes or the first six seasons, David Rosenthal wrote. So
he is a gifted, gifted writer in his own right,
but to ask somebody to come in and do that
(33:41):
is an impossible ask. You're not you can get close,
but it's it's these are voices that Amy and Dan hear.
These are their voices. This cannot be duplicated. And I
thought he did a pretty commendable job. Haven't seen season
seven yet, and I'll opine I guess further. Yeah, I'm
very curious. I thought he really took the brunt of
(34:03):
it unfairly. But yeah, I mean, the fans want what
they want, they got and I mean who you lay
who do you lay that at the feet of right?
Because Amy and Dan left for a very specific reason.
They didn't get the proper deal and they thought they
deserved it, and that was sort of tradition to give
(34:24):
a two year deal instead of a one year deal,
and they just couldn't stomach it. And more power to them, right,
I mean, they they made their they made a choice.
And it's like, hey, you know, business, yes, exactly, the
business side exactly.
Speaker 3 (34:37):
They make that that that choice, and and and again
they all all respect it.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
To David Rosenthal, it's just it's different.
Speaker 3 (34:44):
It's just different almost, you know, in a in a
in that's in that slight way, you.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
Know, mm hmm, yeah, little little differences make a huge
difference in that in that regard. Anyway, thank you so
very much. Great welcome to you, great catching up with you,
good luck with everything.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
Thank you. YouTube.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
Hopefully we can talk to.
Speaker 3 (35:07):
How the how the factory work in Nashville goes, you know,
the whole bridge. No, no, it's the opening line of
the bridge.
Speaker 6 (35:19):
All right, allry, buddy, all right, take care, all right,
take care, bud.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
Everybody talks again. Follow us on Instagram at I Am
all In podcast and email us at Gilmore at iHeart
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