One on One: Yanic Truesdale, Matt Czuchry, and John Cabrera

The Boys Are Back in Town!
Yanic Truesdale (Michel Gerard), John Cabrera (Brian Fuller), and Matt Czuchry (Logan Huntzberger) join Scott!!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, everybody, Scott Patterson, I am all in podcast. We're

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gonna sit down at Epics and Chill Fan Convention uh
in Charleston, South Carolina, have a little discussion with John Cabrera,
Yannie Truesdale, Matt Super Here it is Hello, that's just you.

(00:25):
I am all in with Scott Patterson and I Heart
Radio podcast. Everybody's Scott Patterson. I am all in podcast.
I Heart Radio one eleven Productions. I am sitting here
in a convention venue in Charleston, South Carolina with none
other than John Cabrera and Yannick Truesdale. Gentlemen, Hello, how

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are you? Hello? Mr Patterson, how are you? He came
in from came in from Canada, but two days ago
was in Greece. I'm all over the place, my usual.
Are you having the usual airline trauma that we all Well,
you had a worse one than mine, I believe. Yeah,
they're they're they're not great experiences, but the seats are cushy. Yeah.

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I want to see the video of last night you
and I almost had to call security. I want to
see that you sold my seat out from under me
when I was in the air You I think I went.
I went right up to the line where it was
like security. Yeah, yeah, that was something. John. How are

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you doing. I'm good, I'm good. So how how was
your traveling? You came in from California? No, I came
in from the surface of the Sun also known as
Las Vegas. I'm living in Vegas now, Vegas, baby, Okay, Vegas.
I'm living in the same city as Sebastian. Yeah. Is
he out there? Yeah? Have you seen? You know? But

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I moved just just like right when he was doing
a concert downtown and I I wanted to see it,
but it was just too crazy with the movies. But
he's still rocking. That's voice. Oh yeah, he's the voice.
He'll never never. I did a night out with with
Sebastian on the Sunset Strip. We went to the Rainbow

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and back. Yeah, I remember that. I mean we used
to go. He and I used to go to the
Sunset Strip all the time after shows. God, it was
just fantastic. Do you have you ever seen him with fans? Yes,
he's incredible because we went to the but he's he's
just amazing. Every single fan that he meets, he gives

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them the likes like the special you are the greatest
thing treatment And I remember I said, when like like
after like five or six fans just trying to get
from one block to another. I was like, man, you
are amazing with fans, and He's like, I love them there.
I mean, I wouldn't be here with them, right, I
wouldn't be here. Well, um he um. He had a

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really funny quote. Uh. The next day, I don't think
it was the next day, but the next Monday, he's
sitting in the makeup trailer and so I was telling
everybody before he got it. We did this magical night
and the fans and it was craziness and they were
lining up to get his autograph and just to take
a picture with him in this and we're just sitting
there having having a cocktail at the Rainbow Room and

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then we're going to the Rosy to see a show,
that kind of thing. And he said, he said, I
don't know how I got here, you know, me and
Gilmore girls, it's so wrong, it's so wrong. It's right screaming,
and it's so true. It's so true. So anyway, what
have you been up to, sir? Well? Since I spoke

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with you, when did we speak last? Year. I can't remember.
I have no memory. I mean when you came on
the show. Yeah, yeah, it's when I first started. Yeah,
I think you were the you are the first. You
are made in voyage. But yeah, uh, well I ended
up going to Australia after I spoke with you, which
was a life changing experience, fell in love with the country,

(04:05):
shooting a Netflix series that came out God's Favorite Idiot
with Melissa did Melissa Brilliant show? Yes, my Friends and
we had a grand time. And then I came back
and shot season two of my Canadian show Li mecuh
right after that, and uh and yeah, and then I

(04:26):
shot a couple of movies with the miss Tony Braxton
of all people. Yeah, in Toronto. We became friends. She's lovely. Yeah.
So it's been a busy, busy stretch. Yeah. And you
just came in from Greece where you Yeah, I just
came in from vacation. Yes. I must have been a

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Greek man in another life. I love it there. Yeah. Yeah, well, yeah,
that's that's there. I was a Mikinos. I was telling
them this funny quote to the Greeks, which they didn't do.
You know that quote Greeks invented sex and Italians shared
it with women. It was I was coming through customs

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uh to get here uh in Halifax, and there was
I think there was. He was a Greek gentleman and
he was he was working in the snack bar and
that was the only thing that was open because it
was it was like one flight to Philadelphia, right and
that that was it. That was the international section of
the airport. And he said, you know, he was chatting
everybody up. He was a good natured fellow, obviously pretty
educated guy, and he was just like up, up, up,

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and he you know, it came to my turn, and
I was like, I wonder what kind of chatter I'm
gonna get from this guy. And he goes, well, you know, no,
no, no no, no, And then he said, he said, you know,
better to better to be alive than dead, and what
don't you think? And I'm like, you know, it's better
to be six ft above ground than six ft under
and I said, I just I don't know. I just said, uh,
I don't know if I'm qualified. I don't know what
it's like to be dead, so I can't answer that.

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And he goes, he goes, you got me there speaking
of Greeks, John, what are you working on now? Uh yeah,
that was an interesting segue. I was gonna actually say.
My sister was just yeah, my sister was in Greece
probably the same time you were. And um, I don't

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think so. She her my my brother in law. He's Greek,
I mean full Greek, and uh yeah, they were visiting family.
My sister just had a baby. Um, it's coming. I
think we might have might have another guest. Un thanks

(06:44):
for coming in. We have just been joined by Mr
He just came in. Not good to see you. You're
looking well. Thank you, Thank you guys for having me
having me on here. We gotta get close. I have
no problem with that. Man. This is cool. This is

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very cool. It's great to see you guys. So, so
how you been what you've been busy? Huh yeah, good good?
You know, um doing a show right now called The
Resident right right now for a little bit right six
seasons we were talking about, thank you, thank you, and uh,
of course it's been fun to relive Gilmore girls as

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I was coming to do this and think about all
those memories together. So now it's good to see you
guys in person. Tell us about how you got the job,
the audition process, you know, the whole beginning of it.
You know, I I auditioned for Logan either it was
at least once, uh, for a previous character. I think
it was Marty. Actually I auditioned for that character. I

(07:48):
believe so, and then it may have been another character too.
So I think I auditioned twice before Logan. And you know,
I had seen the show, and so I had that
advantage coming into that first issue where if you didn't
know the show, of course, that the pace of it
the way the way it is, and you're you're not
gonna call that pace. I don't know when you auditioned

(08:08):
for it, but the pace of the show was not
as fast when we first started the show. Do you
remember season one? We were talking normal and I don't
know what happened. Amy had too many coffees, and I
think that it was that the scripts were getting longer.
Realized that we might not be able to get this
into minutes less Dan Dan fill the syringe again. But

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your character was introduced with season season five. Yeah, I
was introduced in season three, and I remember my agent said, Hey,
just so you know, when you go into the audition,
it's the Gilmore speed. I was like, I don't know
exactly what that means. But by season three they were

(08:52):
already Yeah. But season one definitely, if you watched season one,
we we don't talk fast. I talk normal, right, I didn't.
That's that's I didn't know that. Yeah. Yeah, I came
in in the in the fast, just like the only
notes we'd get from directors are we really like what
you're doing and you go faster? Yeah? Yeah, I don't

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feel like, man, I don't. I don't feel like Logan
spoke particularly fast. Maybe, but that's the reason, Glad, you know,
that's the reason that character is so memorable because you
did do your own rhythm and you did your own rhythm.
But I mean you were a little faster fast, but
you did your own rhythm and kept it cool. Right.

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You didn't get caught up in in Lauren and Alexis
because that's hard to stay. I wouldn't have fit now
i'm reflecting on your character. Wouldn't have fit him talking
super fast like we we did. I feel like you
you had a more normal but I feel like talking
You did a scene at the beach with Greg Henry

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and he came in and he was very upset and
you guys had a fight. Yes, yes, yes, And that
scene is one of the best scenes I've ever seen
in the show, just to the pace going back and forth,
but the smoothness that you gave it, and it didn't
feel like you were sort of acting and being fast
about it than you just had a very natural float.
But that scene was wow. Oh that's very wow. I

(10:21):
mean that was first of all, I feel like I
was I was talking pretty fast, guys, but I just
thought you were speaking really slow right now. But thank
you for saying that, because that was my intention coming in,
is is you know the challenge with that dialogue. I mean,
it's so beautifully written, as we all know Amy Dan

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and and shout out to them, and just every word matters,
and it it should matter for a reason because the
writing is so good. At the same time, when I
saw the show, with it being so fast, you can
see how you can just get caught up and if
you're at two in the morning and everybody saying, hey,
go faster. I was trying to come in and still
have my character thoughts while speaking Frost and I didn't

(11:06):
achieve that. Of course, all the time. But that was
my goal. And our friend George Bell would come up
and say, hey, this that you know script. Yeah, our
dialogue coach, so he would come up and say that.
But so I wanted to honor that that pace. You
have to honor that tone. You want to say every
word right because they the writing is so beautiful. But

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at the same time, I wanted to try and convey
the thoughts of the character. So that's a really nice compliment.
But this is when I discovered how good you were.
Was when I was amazed at how how good Greg
nailed that scene, because because you know, you know, actors
have to decide and they kind of instinctively know, oh

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this is Greg scene like this is Greg, you know,
this is fireworks and man he you know, and when
somebody's driving that like that with that writing, your job
is so hard because man, if you just miss a
little time and you can throw them off in the
whole scene on rabbles. But man, you were just right

(12:07):
in there. Your cues were perfect, perfect, perfect. That's when
I realized how good you were. That's very kind of you.
I mean, really how much to do? That's the for me,
that's the toughest thing to do is not to screw
up Lauren, you know, when she's on her when she's
in her in her state, right, And that's the hardest
thing to do. And I think that for all of
us we can speak to the challenge of that pace,

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but also um how unique that made the show and uh,
that combination of the challenge is an actor to try
and make that come alive was very difficult for us.
But at the same time, that's why we're we're here
still talking about the show. That's why we had that
reunion in That's why we had the reboot, because generations

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have now watched the show. I mean, it's amazing in
terms of the mother daughter connection, which is the fundamental
aspect of the show. But how many mothers and daughters
to this day are watching it And that's a credit
I'd like to think too. Obviously, again, Amy and Dan
and then all the actors who are able to create uh,

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like you said, each everybody, every character has their own
own voice. Apparently I was the one who talked really slow.
I was the slow voice. You you were the guy
that never looked broke character, who stayed in character because
to hang with Greg henry Man, you gotta be good

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to hang with that, and you were dressed in the
pocket just riding that out and doing your job. You
have a job to do, right, and it's like thank you, wow, wow, wow,
thank you, So kudos to you for that. That's when
I that's when I sat forward and said, Jesus, that
guy's good because I've been in that situation. It's like
I choked a few times. It's like, oh, boy, man,

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that's your job. You got to stay in there and
feed and feed and feed. It's not easy. Matt, Gotta
ask you burning question here. Who do you think the
baby daddies? Yeah, you know, my answer is always the
same on that of just I feel like if Amy

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and Dan want to say that, then they should be
the ones. But and and maybe I'm on darts coming
in John and maybe they they'll change their minds. So
I've always um, I'm I'm putting my money on Mike Tyson.
I I just I think it's the best piece of

(14:38):
stunt casting there is. And I wanted to be Mike
Tyson because I want to work with Mike Tyson's maybe
a little bit, now, why not I think you're on something.
I think it's not can you support me on? Thank you?
Um so, so tell us a little bit no, so,
so get into the hole like when you got the

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job in your first day, at your first impressions of
the of of being at Warner Brothers, and like what
it was all happening. Yes, I mentioned at least auditioned once.
I think it was twice for two different characters, and uh,
thankfully you know Amy and and Dan saw something in
that there that uh, and then I had a third

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audition for for Logan. So that was a unique journey
in of itself to audition twice for that show and
then have a third opportunity didn't come back that that's yeah,
that's how I remember why it's so special to me.
Is really my first kind of um big job, and

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it was either the second or third, I want to
say third and um and then also that was the
first job where after that was able to support myself
as an actor. So very again, so grateful to Amy
and Dan in a lot of ways of them taking
a chance on me. Really I didn't have many credits
and um, and so that's that's really really special to me.

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And then to be a part of a show like
we've talked about UM that was so unique, so interesting,
so well written, and then UM for it too, as
we mentioned, be on Netflix and to have to be
able to do a reboot and have generations after generations
love it. I mean, that's what we all do, is
we're trying to do as actors, is to try and

(16:23):
make something that um impacts the audience and to be
on something that really resonates with with people and makes
a difference in their lives, whether it be just they're
folding laundry, whether watching the show, or they connect to
the relationship that you had with Laurel or whatever it
may be. That's what we're trying to do. So we
were able to do that with the show. UM. When

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I first came on there, in terms of that question,
I was very nervous. You know, I was a new
actor and I didn't know what it meant to really
hit my mark and find my light and uh I
remember the DP kind of just you know, take from
my shoulders and say you feel that light there, you
feel this mark here, and don't be an alexis is life.

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So those some of some of those basic fundamentals were
what I was experiencing there. And then like we talked
about the pace of the show being so unique, So
that were some of the highlights for me in terms
of that job. Just taking a quick pull, how many
of y'all and I'm included in this have I thought

(17:27):
they've done a brilliant take, but sorry, I can't use it.
You were standing, you were out of your light, you
were off your mark, you're out of focus. We have
to go again. I'm guilmar I don't think I've had that.
Oh no, no, didn't happen, Gilmore Girls. That happened. But
but worse would be would be a line that I

(17:48):
tongue twisted or flubbed that I'm that that they then
moved on like they were and then I'm like, oh no,
please tell me that this is not going to be
the one that they use. And sure enough, it must
have been perfect for every other every other person in
the scene because that we can't use your best take
because they were really good at that. So tell us

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a little bit. What was it like working with Alexis. Yeah,
she you know, as you know, she's she's very private
and she's um very you know, in terms of coming
into that. The reason I loved the character we're just
talking about the character of it um was. I felt
Logan was somebody who could push her uh to try

(18:32):
and you know, challenge herself, to push her to uh
live a different life in terms of outside the box
a little bit. So that's what I loved about the
character of Logan in terms of the positive side, was
just trying to inspire her to to push her outside
the box. That's what I loved about the Rory Logan relationship.

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And then in terms of Alexis, you know she was
she just had so much on her shoulders from a
very young age and so much attention on that show.
We talked about a show again that has been so
popular for so long, and and she had so much
of that burden and so and she was very private

(19:16):
and kept to herself, and so mostly I was just
trying to in any way I could protect that and
honor that on set in a lot of ways, whether
it be outside when we were ever together, outside uh
of work or at work, of just trying to respect
her her privacy and really not bother her too much

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because I feel like she was just in the spotlight
so much and had so much attention. I felt noticed
that very early on that she was so private and
and um and wanted time to herself whenever she could
have it, so that I felt was my job was
to kind of felt an instinct to protect her in
that way. Yeah, she Uh, I don't think she realized

(20:02):
what she was getting into, and well, no one knew
what the show was going to go. But I mean
she was a call to show. She was eighteen years old.
She was sixteen years old when she started the show.
I believe I'm right she was sixteen. She was sixteen
unless she was she was an n y U, which
did she graduate high school early? I would have to
google that information, but I'm pretty sure she was sixteen.

(20:26):
I mean, no, now, yeah, I think I think eighteen
yeah nine, she was nineteen. Oh my god, I'm completely wrong. Okay.
And the reboot, I mean, I don't know about you
guys had a blast with that. It was kind of
the case of just coming you get to go back
to college in a way, and you didn't know you're

(20:47):
gonna ever go back to college, and uh, that was
just a blast. I mean, I don't know, we may
not have I don't know if I even saw you
guys on the reboot. When we were shooting. I don't
think so stories, but it was uh, you know as
a blast. I love that, right, So tell us what
are your favorite moments of filming the show episode wise?

(21:10):
Of course? Uh, you know the first episode I was
on Written in the Stars. I think that was episode
three of season five, just a special one because it
was the first one. Um you jump, I jump Jack
is uh in that season as well, that fifth season,
that's the first episode where I feel we had the
whole life and Death Brigade aspect. And for me, the

(21:33):
Life and Death Brigade aspect captured the best parts of
who Logan was and the best parts of who was
for Rory in terms of just again that that out
of the box thinking, that adventure seeking, of pushing things
to the limit, and I feel like for Logan that
was a place where he could escape exactly the pieces

(21:53):
that you were talking about that you didn't love about
the character, in terms of whether it be the entitlement
or he was always eston to work for his father
or whatever. I mean, Master and Commander. That's that's in
the first episode this guy. Yeah, and of course I
love that piece of them too for me, but I

(22:13):
can see as an audience member. Um, you know that
was the duality moment, no question, It's a really really
cool moment, really cool, cool character. I haven't seen it
all right, sorry, sorry, you just recently watched the show.
I haven't seen the show in twenty years, so it's
for me. It's so vague. So did you get a
lot of offers from film and TV to play a

(22:36):
character like that? I did get a little bit. I
think of that that kind of an entitled aspect character
to play. I mean, to play that your whole career.
That's that puts you in some pretty good movies. I mean,
and I love that character logan, you know, and I
loved all those aspects of them, the duality of that

(22:58):
and everything. So I loved that character. But you know,
of course, as as actors, you're trying to marry the
business and the artistic side of it. So there was
certainly at the beginning certain um jobs that felt very
close to that character that UM I turned out. Can
you describe one name one um? Interesting enough? There was

(23:21):
a pilot the stories. Yeah, I love like what I
didn't get and what I turned on. There was a
pilot I can't remember the name of it. Didn't end
up going. But um, interestingly enough, the producer of that
pilot was also the producer who produced The Good Wife,
which I ended up doing right after that. So um,

(23:44):
that was a job that that pilot didn't end up going,
but that was a character was very similar to to Logan.
And that's just one example of that, right right, Okay, Uh,
they need you. I'm gonna see you later. You all later,
We'll see you around. Thank you guys. Yeah. One thing

(24:07):
that Matt made me think of the when we were
talking about the pace of the show, the fact that
we all had to speak so fast. It made the
actors be very specific about their intentions and who they were,
because you didn't have time. If you weren't specific, your
work was not going to come through. And so that

(24:30):
is kind of like the hidden gift of talking fast.
I think, you know what. I think it worked for
a lot of scenes. Other scenes I wish for sure
because on the thing I'm doing now, I'm finding you know,
you slow it down and you'll find all these great beats. Um,
talk a little bit unique about you, know you have

(24:53):
and you are ultra specific as an actor, and we're
enjoying you so much. On every episode lately that we've
been podcasting about, and some of the episodes I'm not
crazy about, you know, I and I go into it.
I'm pretty pretty honest about it um as to why,
and I sort of, you know, break it down a

(25:15):
little bit, we all break it down. But the saving
grace for the last I don't know, four or five,
what do you think? Yeah about like the last four
or five? You just have these one lines that we
we all were just you were our favorite line in
every episode. Yeah, well, the lines, it's all Amy and
Dan and the writing. The writing for Michelle was very

(25:37):
very specific. His voice was very specific, and so for me,
I grew up watching comedies and sitcoms and I literally
grew up watching Golden Girls with my grandmother. And yeah,
that's how I learned English basically, because I didn't speak
English before. And the characters were so specific, and you

(26:01):
laugh every time because you knew it was coming, and
it came, and then you felt rewarded and then you laugh.
And Michelle isn't a bit in that vein. You kind
of know what he's thinking, and then when he says
it out loud, you're like, right, right, right, But so
you know to me what you did with Michelle. I mean,

(26:23):
it's like what Peter Sellers did with Clouseau. I mean
it's so ultra specific and so memorable and so overwhelmingly funny.
Where did you get this guy? I don't know. It's
just his I I understood the first time my audition
and I read the script and the lines for him.

(26:43):
I understood his sarcasm and his dryness and being French Canadian,
which is not like being a French from Paris. But
I certainly have uh have met many and I have
many in my life, and this sense of having an

(27:03):
opinion on everything, and they love to argue, and they
love to share their opinion in the sense that they
always feel their opinion is the most valid and prove
me wrong, prove me otherwise if you haven't that, and
they love that debate. And so I understand that kind
of thinking. And so he comes from that place where

(27:26):
he feels that he needs to educate people Americans because
they're not educated, and so it comes almost from a
good place, a place of wanting to share and elevate them.
And so it's not means spirited, it means it's done
in a way to help and elevate and educate. Its

(27:49):
beautiful yea. Um, so so what are you drawing from?
And it's and I mean, is there is there another
actor who gave a performance? Now, it's just memories, inner
emotional memories of my imagination of of what it is
to be French. What's your favorite line that you delivered

(28:10):
on Gilmorgural? Do you remember so many? But I remember
the last couple episodes. What was cracking us up so much?
I mean the line with the elderly woman. I like,
I like when lines are really inappropriate, something about furniture. Yeah,
she wanted to She said, excuse me, sir, where can

(28:30):
I find the best antiques? And Michelle responded at your
househead guest, Yeah, it's so inappropriate and it's so funny
to me. Um, yeah that was a great line. Yeah. Wait, yeah,
you're killings because we vote at the end of the podcast.
Now who who stole the who stole the shows? Uh?

(28:53):
You're you're you're saving the show like the Clunker episodes,
which is like kind of all over the place. Yeah. Um,
you know the lack of utilization of Richard and Emily
participation of you know, celebrating Rory's admission into Yarvard, Harvard, Yale, Yarvard,
you know Harvard, Harvard, Yale and Princeton Um. You know

(29:15):
you always come through. Well, thank you, sir. We thought
we we when the puppy thing, right, the puppies and
you fell in love with the puppies, Yes, we we
were wanting. We loved it, but we wanted more hard edge. Yeah, Michelle, Yeah,
that when the when one of my puppies die, that
was season seven or something. I pitched that idea because

(29:39):
I said he should lose a puppy, he should be devastated,
it should be like because I wanted to have more
moments for him where you saw a bit of his vulnerability.
So we're so we're we're really enjoying. Well, thank you
what you're doing. And um, all right, gentlemen, all right,
thank you, thank you. Okay, Zonta, Hey, everybody, and don't

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