December 31, 2025 • 31 mins
Scott is hanging out in his trailer on the Warner Bros lot for Holidays Made Here and his Sullivan's Crossing co-star Dean Armstrong is joining the fun!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I am all in again.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Oh, let's guess you.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
I am all in again with Scott Patterson and iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Mister Dean Armstrong, Scott Patterson and uh Dean. You know
Dean from?
Speaker 1 (00:31):
What do we know you from? Well, we can't go there,
but let's.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
I'm trying to pick up what you're laying down with
the sign language.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
What what do you? What are you doing now? What
show are you on?
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Now?
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Aren't you on a big on a big show right now?
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Yeah, it's called the Scott Patterson Podcast right now, that's
called the I Am all in with Scott Patterson.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
I am, I am all in. I guess that wrong.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
But we've we've been cows for a couple of years
now and nows for a few years and and you
were good enough to come by holidays made here.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
What are your impressions?
Speaker 3 (01:12):
You came last year with your daughter Ryan Ryan Kiera
Armstrong as your daughter, the up and coming super talented.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Clips me at ten years of age.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
She eclipsed everybody you know. I think she's gonna win
an oscar by the time she's twenty. And she's what
fifteen now, and she's coming into town tomorrow. You have
done a fantastic job with her. She came by and
did an interview with her last year in the VIP lounge.
Tell Us, tell us about your impressions of this experience,
(01:47):
This Gilmore Girls holidays made here experience.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Well, my impressions, honestly are really correlated with her experience
in the show. So I hadn't got on that Gilmore
Girls train when it aired for a lot of reasons.
I didn't have a TV. I didn't know what TV was,
but i'd heard of it and I knew that there
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was storytelling on this box. But no, I came to
fall in love with the show watching the show with
my daughter. So the resurrection that this series has had,
and you've talked about it so many times, it's cross
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general across, the cross generational impact that it's had in storytelling,
about relationship dynamics that Scott cannot keep it together. He
has often said, Dean, you were ridiculous. I don't like
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looking at you because when I do.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
I laugh.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
But the reality is Scott and I have a very
close relationship. It's based predominantly on farts and laughter.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
But so you bought you You're you're saying part of
if I can extract some of the nuggets from this
golden throat of yours.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Golden Actually, you know what this is. This reminds me
of So Scott and I met on another series, and
the very first day that we worked together, I was
locked in. I was loaded.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
This was the.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
First day that I was going to meet the extraordinary,
most incredible talent, Scott Patterson, and I showed up on set.
I had not met Scott yet, Scott had not met me.
We were at the beginning of this showingly, you know,
friendly with one another, but we grow to be antagonists,
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you know, opposite one another over the course of this
this this, this, this series. But I'll never forget this.
But I met Scott and I shook his hand and
we started the rehearsal, and I again was locked in.
I'm on very different sides of my personality. By the way,
what you guys have seen has not been the serious side.
(04:27):
But I was there and I was locked in. And
I started doing the scene with Scott and he goes
it would come to his line and he'd be like,
he's really good. He's like, he's totally throwing me off.
He's like, you're so serious, You're so into all right,
and he kept trying to ground himself in the rehearsals.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Not true, true, This is a very true story. You
forget this bull.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
The point is God had been doing this for a
minute now and I showed up and he had some
grievances over the goose. We were talking about it's a.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Bunch of bulls, chats. We were talking.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
About some of these core New York actors that make
up the stable structure of any good cast. But what
had Clinton called them? The la what the hacks? Knuckleheads?
That's what it was, the knuckleheads. So I don't know.
Scott may have been working with some people that he
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was maybe having a challenge being challenged, But I stepped
up there and I challenged him and he was thrown
and he lapsed and we were best friends ever since.
But coming back to your show that we were here
today to celebrate, I fell in love with the show
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after I had met you.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
So funny, see this is what happened on.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Day one of Sullivans.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
This is what it was.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
So afterwards then I, you know, my daughter's like, oh,
you're working with Scott, And I said, I am JeOS.
I love Scott I said, how do you know Scott?
I watch him on The Gilmore Goes. I never watched
The Gilmore Girls, and he said, well, you have to
watch the Gilmore Girls with me, and then I really
fell in love with you. But to that end, the
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journey started on the show. We shared to my daughter's
love of the show, which she passed on to me.
Where's my twenty dollars? Where's my twenty dollars? These are
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actually true stats. So Scott was kind enough because we
developed this friendship non friendship where he's he thought it
would be cool to have Ryan and I come to
this very investive event.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Last year, Holidays made here.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
What's it called? So the Holidays made here and it
made our holiday to see so many people celebrate this
show that has been resurrected from the debts a former
(07:28):
fan love, but now current, which is amazing. Every shows
can say that they've done this.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
It's never died.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
I didn't say it died. I just resurrected. Jesus never
died either. It's a great example. For example, here we
are celebrating Christmas, which is the birth of our Lord.
It's all full circle when you think about it. I
just put that together, it's gold. I know how to
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package this now next year.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
I knew this was a good idea. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
Anyway, So continuing on with with Ryan and yes, coming
here last year and experiencing this, elaborate a little bit
on that, and you know her takeaway.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
From well, she didn't want to come this sh she's
not here last I checked, so, uh, Ryan couldn't be here.
She was very sad. I will say this. When I
joined you with the tree lighting thing, the opening last Thursday,
you had a cast member that was a love interest
(08:45):
on the show.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Correct logan is the character is correct?
Speaker 2 (08:48):
I pay attention. So I took a picture because again
and sent it to Ryan in real time, and she
lost her mind. She was why this year? Why not
last year? Will he be coming back? I'm mad at you? Right?
Should I blame you for the distance that's now been
(09:08):
created that has not having her here with me today
I'm going to be celebrating Christmas alone. It's kind of
sad because of that exclusion.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
That's what she was coming.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
She's coming. She shall be here tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
But that's not a great story.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
No, it's not good. So that's why I said it
the other way. It's more interesting. That's more interesting, that's
more interesting.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
Now that you've had this is your second you're kind
of a veteran in the holidays made here experience, So
tell us about how that experience has changed your view
on things, changed.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
My view on things.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
That was the question.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
People keep coming back. You know, that's really important to
acknowl there's a lot of uh, there's a lot of
there's a lot of there's a lot of money behind this.
There's a lot of people behind this to support the
unsatisfiable lust and need that you know. Clint used the
(10:19):
word orgasmic earlier, and I would like to echo that
same sentiment. But like to see the love of people
dressing up in your clothes, men and women the same
like I've seen women wear your clothes and men wear
your clothes. I have, and to see that extraordinary wanting
to get inside of you is one of the things
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that you know, not a lot of people can say.
I saw one girl who had your tattoo. I don't
know if she saw you. She had a tattoo of
your face on her shoulder. That was fast, Like, how
like to go to that extent put your face on
your shoulder from a show that was resurrected from the
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depths is something she didn't. She didn't get rid of it,
you know, she didn't have it lasered off. It was
still there, right, and so listen, all I can say
is to come back like the show came back, and
experience it again for a second time, like the second
Coming of Christ. I would say that this show could
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go on for as far as I can see. I'm
pretty sure, so I can't see that far. But if
I was on the Warner Brothers water tower, I could
see further. And I think that I, if I was
to guess, this could keep going for as long as
you wanted it to keep going. And that to me
is the root of it all, the core of it,
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which is the fans, which is based upon the stories
you guys told, and the relatability of those stories, which
are timeless.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Assessment.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
I think that deserves a round of applause from our honest.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
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Speaker 3 (13:03):
You got a series regular role on Reacher, right, Yes, sir,
tell us a little bit about that.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Well, you just told everybody.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Just what's your freaking role?
Speaker 2 (13:18):
I Did you watch the Monty Python's Quest for the
Holy Grail movie? Yes, it's a good movie, funny movie.
There is a scene in that movie near the beginning
when Arthur is trying to get people to join his
quest and they gallop across the land with coconuts as
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the horses correct and then they come across this night
and he's in battle with somebody and he decimates him
and he stands because he's guarding this bridge. I'm going
somewhere with this story. And Arthur's like, join me, your valiant,
good night off, I'm paraphrasic, but join me on my
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quest to find the grail. And he doesn't say anything.
And he's like, but join me, sir, good join me,
join me. He doesn't say anything. Tries to sims it
doesn't say anything. All right, whatever. He decides to cross
the bridge with his posse and the Knight says, no
man shall pass. He's like, but now he talks and anyway,
they get into a battle and Arthur cuts one of
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his arms off and blood shoots out the arm and
he's like, all right now I'm going to pass the
bridge and Arthur the guys the Knights, like no man
shall pass. He's but I just cut your arm off.
He said, no, you didn't. It's a flesh wound. And
he keeps battling with one hand and then he cuts
his other arm off right then he cuts his legs
off to the point where he's then just a torso.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
I know how he feels, and keep going.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
He's just a torso. And he shouts after Arthur, who
crosses the bridge without permission, get back here, and I'll
bite your knee caps on exactly.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
I say this story.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
Because my character is the main c I a dude
after reach of this season, and I go through many
many platoons, many many platoons of of of guys like
CIA dudes, and they all get killed and but I don't.
(15:27):
But every in every episode, I get this crap beat
out of me.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
See what I sense for myself?
Speaker 2 (15:35):
That's that's that's a slippery crap also known as diarrhea.
But I every episode I get punished terribly, and it
gets worse and worse and worse over the course of
the season. And that's what audiences can wait with baited
breath to watch me get I'm sure no one will
(15:57):
enjoy it more than you to see me received this
level of torture. But that's how I describe my character.
I went up to some of the writers and I said,
I told him the story. They went, that's exactly where
your character is. And I thought that was a really
great comparative.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
And this is season four, season four. I know you
coming back for season five.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Can't tell you that?
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Why not?
Speaker 2 (16:20):
I can't. I signed the thing that had the thing
about the other thing that said, don't tell.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
Scott, don't tell people that you're coming back on just you?
And why was that just miss? I really don't he's
second on Helium lately. What's going on?
Speaker 2 (16:37):
When my voice goes up here, it's usually a lie.
This is a fun fact. Fun fact.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
Great, haven't you?
Speaker 2 (16:55):
We can talk more about my daughter?
Speaker 4 (16:57):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (16:58):
Yes, right, go ahead. And so what's Ryan doing these days?
She's one of the biggest Gilmore fans in the year.
She really is, right, tell us what she's doing now?
She's doing a lot.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Ryan's Ryan started her career kind of in around the
same time Clinton started. She's my daughter's really old. They
started at the same time. I don't even I'm questioning
now as I say it, if she has even my daughter.
I don't know the math on that. But either way,
my daughter was six when she started, and she had
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a kind of kind of a cool story, which is
very different than a lot of folks. But her first
edition was her first three years on a TV series,
and so she hasn't known. I think she has got
like thirty credits on her resume, and she may have
auditioned thirty eight times in her life. So she's only
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kind of known this back to back momentum him from
a really young age, which is really cool. She's been
the face of many studio pictures. She has been a
lead in Star Wars. She is an action figure. I
kind of am jealous of that. I thought, at the
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very least because I gave I didn't give birth to her,
but I was part of it. You know. I thought
they could, at the very least just make it an
action figure of the dad Star Wars action dat figure,
just being regular.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
Perfectly reasonable request. I thought, yeah, request, I'm sure they
took it very seriously.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
They didn't. Anyway, I'm working on it. She's been a
leading Star Wars. She worked with actually Clinton and the
three of us, the five of us all met doing
a movie in Montana together with Nick Cage. It was
Nick Cage's first Western. Clint's phenomenal in it. It was
actually the first movie I actually did with Ryan. And
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also I think they felt sorry for me they heard
me talking about action figures and stuff. But my daughter
just came off of an incredibly wonderful fun series called
The Lowdown with Ethan Hawk, which I think is going
to clean up this emy season. She's lovely in it,
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and she is currently She shot the pilot this past year,
the new Leads, the newest Slayer in the Buffy the Vampires.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
She's a new Buffy, She's the new Slayers.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
I will never forget the time that you showed me
her audition for Star Wars Skeleton Crew when she was
eleven years old. Right, she was eleven years old, and
you showed me a five minute monologue that she did,
and it blew my socks off and I wanted to
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quit act at that moment because I just thought, this
is something. This is like watching Merle Straight before she
was Merle Straight. The choices, the command, the depth, it
was just scary. Actually, it's kind of scary. She's she
is a natural. She was born to do this.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
You've got a lot of it for me.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
I mean, like I said, when she was born to
be honest. You are a much sought after acting coach,
you have, you train a lot of actors. I mean,
it's like it's a bit it's a good side hustle
(20:44):
for you. It's kind of your used to be your
main hustle. Now it's kind of a side hustle because
you're you're working more and more as people are discovering, uh,
the depth of your talent.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Well, it's it's kind of a like I I went
to school to be a lawyer, and I got into
the business in my late twenties, not even an entertainment lawyer.
I was wanted to be an environmental lawyer, way before
it was cool to say I'm into trees and water, right,
Like that's what that was my jam, right, And so
that's what I went to school for and then decided
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somewhere along the way that I was going to go
into the entertainment industry as an actor. And everybody in
the world told me again, I was in my mid
late twenties. Everyone's told me I would never work because
I didn't have any experience. And two and a half
years later, I was starring on Broadway in rent and
I don't sing. So that's kind of weird. It sounds
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like a bit and it's actually the truth.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
That's weird.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
So I had auditioned for Broadway. Once I did the
show for two and a half years, that was my
only experience.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
So wait a minute, hang on a second. It was
just what.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
Those are like top level singers and dance or that
there are in those shows, and there's they churn them
out like link sausages.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
A lot of people didn't like me on that show.
With all due respect, how on joined the show?
Speaker 1 (22:11):
But do you dance? And I know you are a singer.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
No, I know you're a singer, and you you got
some pipes on you. You know I've heard you singing rock
and roll. Yeah, but the dancing I was not.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
Rent if you've saw it, there's not a lot of dance.
My character on top of that, didn't dance. So because
I can't dance, I would also argue that I'm not
a singer, but I could I when I hear things
and I can kind of recreate it all right, pretty
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pretty well?
Speaker 1 (22:45):
Well, well, I mean the show.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
There must be you know, the gift that you passed
on to Ryan, There's got to be something there.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
Both had really good luck. We did. We like. My
first foray into the professional industry landed me in New York,
which was kind of the top of the game by
whatever stretch and whatever miracle. At the same time, I
had booked a two episode contract on my first TV gig,
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which was a series called Queer's Folk, and that two
episode contract became five years for me on that show,
and I was juggling for a good chunk of it,
flying back and forth between New York and Toronto where
they shot Queersfolk for a long period. And then at
the peak of all of that, I kind of pulled
the rug out from underneath myself right and started building
(23:34):
my studio. And the studio in Toronto, which is called
Armstrong Acting Studios, has seen to date over thirty thousand actors. Wow,
we've had that explains the yacht. That explains the yacht?
Speaker 3 (23:48):
Yeah, yep, yeah, Paul signs suckers.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
Yeah, wow, Wow, No, not suckers, I have Uh, you know,
I I put Miley Cyrus onto her for stuff. This
is a true st I work with her dad, Billy,
on a TV series called Doc and that's where I
met Miley and I shoed her right through that whole thing.
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Ne A dough brev I found put her onto a
lot of shows, but then Vampire Diaries and Nice. I've
got a pretty insane list of people that I've found
and that I built and then launched, and that for
a good decade before my daughter was born. I you know,
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when you have your own business, it's hard to grow,
because you know, you can't pay people. When I look
at how much money I make an hour to talk
about suckers, it's probably two cents an hour when I.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
When I you know, I'm just ribbing your bodies. It's
the complete opposite.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
Right, suckers. But no, No, the reality is, you know,
there was ten years where I made zero money and
the whole goal of me building this studio was to
create an infrastructure and platform for talent, but also for
me to have a passive income later on down the
road when I could pass off the responsibilities of the studio.
(25:21):
I mean, today the studio has a combined faculty and
staff of six people. Really, we have about thirteen hundred
actors that go through every year. Wow, which is amazing.
But I haven't been at the studio for at least
a decade. I have a smaller boutique studio here in
Los Angeles. I've got about one hundred and twenty clients.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
So you did the thing that I was trying to
do back before I got Gilmour. My idea was because
I was teaching, and my idea was to build a
studio and build it out, Yeah, and have a couple
locations or many locations.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
Well, here's what happens. So the goal was to put
all this time and energy and love into something that
would enable me to then come back to the thing
that I originally fell in love with, which was acting.
But then my daughter was born. So what ended up
happening was I hung up yet my hat again to
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be there for her, which I remember. The first time
that she booked her first five month job, people are like,
how how are you going to hang up everything in
the studio and you know, are you going to get
back into acting whatever? Whatever, whatever? How are you going
to do this for five months? I went, five months
is nothing, I said. I think most parents would agree
that they would give their lives for their children, So
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what is five months? But then five months became ten
years for her, and we're just at that juncture now
where she's turning sixteen and she's writing her California proficiency
test to be legal eighteen. So I can actually, all
of these years later go back to the thing that
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made me the happiest when I first on the stage
in New York, And now she can do her thing
without me.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
Yeah, well she's coming into town. You'll be reunited it's
gonna be a lovely thing. And uh gosh, come back,
you come back tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
I'm actually already on the list tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
Oh during the big like.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
Eight ages come there's a lot of rain coming. You're
gonna get great seats.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
You could bring the yacht.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
They said you're gonna have the You're gonna have free
reign on the lot. Is that something I meant after
you get there, you're going to be here. Yeah, okay,
yeah yeah, so but I mean, I know you want
to go being host. Is this like Adam Sandler on
Sprinklers go off and he gets soaked?
Speaker 3 (27:44):
No, no, nothing, nothing like it. You're she's coming in.
You're gonna go off and do a vacation right with Ryan.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
Yes, we're gonna go to Joshua try okay for the
New Year's Okay, to the house okay, and then you're
returning when the second Okay, So come on the second
or third or the fourth.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Dean, thanks for stopping by. The studio.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
Trailer.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
It's a pretty nice trailer.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
Nice trailer. Yeah, I've seen I've got a studio. I've
got but the recording studio. I meant this studio.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
I thought it was a karaoke machine, and I thought,
you're bringing me up here to sing. No final last fact,
Scott is a phenomenal singer. No, no, no, I'm not kidding.
I love your voice. I do, and he's he's an
amazing guitar player, I'm not joking. And he's an even
better song writer than all of those things. The combination
fire is fantastic. But Scott happened to see that I
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because we didn't. He didn't know I sang any. I
don't know how. It came up at some point, and
then I don't think he believed me, and then later
he believed me, and then later he said, I got
some songs that I wrote, and I went over and
I listened to him play these songs, and they're incredible,
honestly incredible. I do mean this, it's not joke. And
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we had talked about doing a performing them together, yeah,
and doing a show, which I hope isn't dead. Elaine.
Speaker 3 (29:16):
Yeah, because I want him. I want him to sing.
I want I don't want to sing. I want him
to sing. I don't know why, because he's he's a
natural front man. He can he can get out there
and like really entertain and and well away, you know
I don't want to do that.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
Anyway, we did talk about it, and then we he
gets crazy busy, and get it. We all get crazy busy.
But maybe one day all of us can celebrate backstage
after a performance of The Scott and Dean Show. We
call it an S T D S T D S
(29:55):
D D S T T stands for Trouble Scott and
we'll be back after these words with chemical X. This
was a real pleasure. Thank you so much for having
me on your trailer show, Trailer talk, Trailer talk Talk,
(30:16):
Dean Armstrong, It's a pleasure, good friend, good many Love
you too, everybody, and
Speaker 3 (30:50):
Don't forget Follow us on Instagram at I Am all
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I am all in again.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Oh, let's guess you.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
I am all in again with Scott Patterson and iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Mister Dean Armstrong, Scott Patterson and uh Dean. You know
Dean from?
Speaker 1 (00:31):
What do we know you from? Well, we can't go there,
but let's.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
I'm trying to pick up what you're laying down with
the sign language.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
What what do you? What are you doing now? What
show are you on?
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Now?
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Aren't you on a big on a big show right now?
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Yeah, it's called the Scott Patterson Podcast right now, that's
called the I Am all in with Scott Patterson.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
I am, I am all in. I guess that wrong.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
But we've we've been cows for a couple of years
now and nows for a few years and and you
were good enough to come by holidays made here.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
What are your impressions?
Speaker 3 (01:12):
You came last year with your daughter Ryan Ryan Kiera
Armstrong as your daughter, the up and coming super talented.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Clips me at ten years of age.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
She eclipsed everybody you know. I think she's gonna win
an oscar by the time she's twenty. And she's what
fifteen now, and she's coming into town tomorrow. You have
done a fantastic job with her. She came by and
did an interview with her last year in the VIP lounge.
Tell Us, tell us about your impressions of this experience,
(01:47):
This Gilmore Girls holidays made here experience.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Well, my impressions, honestly are really correlated with her experience
in the show. So I hadn't got on that Gilmore
Girls train when it aired for a lot of reasons.
I didn't have a TV. I didn't know what TV was,
but i'd heard of it and I knew that there
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was storytelling on this box. But no, I came to
fall in love with the show watching the show with
my daughter. So the resurrection that this series has had,
and you've talked about it so many times, it's cross
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general across, the cross generational impact that it's had in storytelling,
about relationship dynamics that Scott cannot keep it together. He
has often said, Dean, you were ridiculous. I don't like
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looking at you because when I do.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
I laugh.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
But the reality is Scott and I have a very
close relationship. It's based predominantly on farts and laughter.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
But so you bought you You're you're saying part of
if I can extract some of the nuggets from this
golden throat of yours.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Golden Actually, you know what this is. This reminds me
of So Scott and I met on another series, and
the very first day that we worked together, I was
locked in. I was loaded.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
This was the.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
First day that I was going to meet the extraordinary,
most incredible talent, Scott Patterson, and I showed up on set.
I had not met Scott yet, Scott had not met me.
We were at the beginning of this showingly, you know,
friendly with one another, but we grow to be antagonists,
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you know, opposite one another over the course of this
this this, this, this series. But I'll never forget this.
But I met Scott and I shook his hand and
we started the rehearsal, and I again was locked in.
I'm on very different sides of my personality. By the way,
what you guys have seen has not been the serious side.
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But I was there and I was locked in. And
I started doing the scene with Scott and he goes
it would come to his line and he'd be like,
he's really good. He's like, he's totally throwing me off.
He's like, you're so serious, You're so into all right,
and he kept trying to ground himself in the rehearsals.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Not true, true, This is a very true story. You
forget this bull.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
The point is God had been doing this for a
minute now and I showed up and he had some
grievances over the goose. We were talking about it's a.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Bunch of bulls, chats. We were talking.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
About some of these core New York actors that make
up the stable structure of any good cast. But what
had Clinton called them? The la what the hacks? Knuckleheads?
That's what it was, the knuckleheads. So I don't know.
Scott may have been working with some people that he
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was maybe having a challenge being challenged, But I stepped
up there and I challenged him and he was thrown
and he lapsed and we were best friends ever since.
But coming back to your show that we were here
today to celebrate, I fell in love with the show
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after I had met you.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
So funny, see this is what happened on.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Day one of Sullivans.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
This is what it was.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
So afterwards then I, you know, my daughter's like, oh,
you're working with Scott, And I said, I am JeOS.
I love Scott I said, how do you know Scott?
I watch him on The Gilmore Goes. I never watched
The Gilmore Girls, and he said, well, you have to
watch the Gilmore Girls with me, and then I really
fell in love with you. But to that end, the
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journey started on the show. We shared to my daughter's
love of the show, which she passed on to me.
Where's my twenty dollars? Where's my twenty dollars? These are
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actually true stats. So Scott was kind enough because we
developed this friendship non friendship where he's he thought it
would be cool to have Ryan and I come to
this very investive event.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Last year, Holidays made here.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
What's it called? So the Holidays made here and it
made our holiday to see so many people celebrate this
show that has been resurrected from the debts a former
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fan love, but now current, which is amazing. Every shows
can say that they've done this.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
It's never died.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
I didn't say it died. I just resurrected. Jesus never
died either. It's a great example. For example, here we
are celebrating Christmas, which is the birth of our Lord.
It's all full circle when you think about it. I
just put that together, it's gold. I know how to
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package this now next year.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
I knew this was a good idea. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
Anyway, So continuing on with with Ryan and yes, coming
here last year and experiencing this, elaborate a little bit
on that, and you know her takeaway.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
From well, she didn't want to come this sh she's
not here last I checked, so, uh, Ryan couldn't be here.
She was very sad. I will say this. When I
joined you with the tree lighting thing, the opening last Thursday,
you had a cast member that was a love interest
(08:45):
on the show.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Correct logan is the character is correct?
Speaker 2 (08:48):
I pay attention. So I took a picture because again
and sent it to Ryan in real time, and she
lost her mind. She was why this year? Why not
last year? Will he be coming back? I'm mad at you? Right?
Should I blame you for the distance that's now been
(09:08):
created that has not having her here with me today
I'm going to be celebrating Christmas alone. It's kind of
sad because of that exclusion.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
That's what she was coming.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
She's coming. She shall be here tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
But that's not a great story.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
No, it's not good. So that's why I said it
the other way. It's more interesting. That's more interesting, that's
more interesting.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
Now that you've had this is your second you're kind
of a veteran in the holidays made here experience, So
tell us about how that experience has changed your view
on things, changed.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
My view on things.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
That was the question.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
People keep coming back. You know, that's really important to
acknowl there's a lot of uh, there's a lot of
there's a lot of there's a lot of money behind this.
There's a lot of people behind this to support the
unsatisfiable lust and need that you know. Clint used the
(10:19):
word orgasmic earlier, and I would like to echo that
same sentiment. But like to see the love of people
dressing up in your clothes, men and women the same
like I've seen women wear your clothes and men wear
your clothes. I have, and to see that extraordinary wanting
to get inside of you is one of the things
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that you know, not a lot of people can say.
I saw one girl who had your tattoo. I don't
know if she saw you. She had a tattoo of
your face on her shoulder. That was fast, Like, how
like to go to that extent put your face on
your shoulder from a show that was resurrected from the
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depths is something she didn't. She didn't get rid of it,
you know, she didn't have it lasered off. It was
still there, right, and so listen, all I can say
is to come back like the show came back, and
experience it again for a second time, like the second
Coming of Christ. I would say that this show could
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go on for as far as I can see. I'm
pretty sure, so I can't see that far. But if
I was on the Warner Brothers water tower, I could
see further. And I think that I, if I was
to guess, this could keep going for as long as
you wanted it to keep going. And that to me
is the root of it all, the core of it,
(11:52):
which is the fans, which is based upon the stories
you guys told, and the relatability of those stories, which
are timeless.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Assessment.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
I think that deserves a round of applause from our honest.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
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Speaker 3 (13:03):
You got a series regular role on Reacher, right, Yes, sir,
tell us a little bit about that.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Well, you just told everybody.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Just what's your freaking role?
Speaker 2 (13:18):
I Did you watch the Monty Python's Quest for the
Holy Grail movie? Yes, it's a good movie, funny movie.
There is a scene in that movie near the beginning
when Arthur is trying to get people to join his
quest and they gallop across the land with coconuts as
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the horses correct and then they come across this night
and he's in battle with somebody and he decimates him
and he stands because he's guarding this bridge. I'm going
somewhere with this story. And Arthur's like, join me, your valiant,
good night off, I'm paraphrasic, but join me on my
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quest to find the grail. And he doesn't say anything.
And he's like, but join me, sir, good join me,
join me. He doesn't say anything. Tries to sims it
doesn't say anything. All right, whatever. He decides to cross
the bridge with his posse and the Knight says, no
man shall pass. He's like, but now he talks and anyway,
they get into a battle and Arthur cuts one of
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his arms off and blood shoots out the arm and
he's like, all right now I'm going to pass the
bridge and Arthur the guys the Knights, like no man
shall pass. He's but I just cut your arm off.
He said, no, you didn't. It's a flesh wound. And
he keeps battling with one hand and then he cuts
his other arm off right then he cuts his legs
off to the point where he's then just a torso.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
I know how he feels, and keep going.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
He's just a torso. And he shouts after Arthur, who
crosses the bridge without permission, get back here, and I'll
bite your knee caps on exactly.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
I say this story.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
Because my character is the main c I a dude
after reach of this season, and I go through many
many platoons, many many platoons of of of guys like
CIA dudes, and they all get killed and but I don't.
(15:27):
But every in every episode, I get this crap beat
out of me.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
See what I sense for myself?
Speaker 2 (15:35):
That's that's that's a slippery crap also known as diarrhea.
But I every episode I get punished terribly, and it
gets worse and worse and worse over the course of
the season. And that's what audiences can wait with baited
breath to watch me get I'm sure no one will
(15:57):
enjoy it more than you to see me received this
level of torture. But that's how I describe my character.
I went up to some of the writers and I said,
I told him the story. They went, that's exactly where
your character is. And I thought that was a really
great comparative.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
And this is season four, season four. I know you
coming back for season five.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Can't tell you that?
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Why not?
Speaker 2 (16:20):
I can't. I signed the thing that had the thing
about the other thing that said, don't tell.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
Scott, don't tell people that you're coming back on just you?
And why was that just miss? I really don't he's
second on Helium lately. What's going on?
Speaker 2 (16:37):
When my voice goes up here, it's usually a lie.
This is a fun fact. Fun fact.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
Great, haven't you?
Speaker 2 (16:55):
We can talk more about my daughter?
Speaker 4 (16:57):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (16:58):
Yes, right, go ahead. And so what's Ryan doing these days?
She's one of the biggest Gilmore fans in the year.
She really is, right, tell us what she's doing now?
She's doing a lot.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Ryan's Ryan started her career kind of in around the
same time Clinton started. She's my daughter's really old. They
started at the same time. I don't even I'm questioning
now as I say it, if she has even my daughter.
I don't know the math on that. But either way,
my daughter was six when she started, and she had
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a kind of kind of a cool story, which is
very different than a lot of folks. But her first
edition was her first three years on a TV series,
and so she hasn't known. I think she has got
like thirty credits on her resume, and she may have
auditioned thirty eight times in her life. So she's only
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kind of known this back to back momentum him from
a really young age, which is really cool. She's been
the face of many studio pictures. She has been a
lead in Star Wars. She is an action figure. I
kind of am jealous of that. I thought, at the
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very least because I gave I didn't give birth to her,
but I was part of it. You know. I thought
they could, at the very least just make it an
action figure of the dad Star Wars action dat figure,
just being regular.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
Perfectly reasonable request. I thought, yeah, request, I'm sure they
took it very seriously.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
They didn't. Anyway, I'm working on it. She's been a
leading Star Wars. She worked with actually Clinton and the
three of us, the five of us all met doing
a movie in Montana together with Nick Cage. It was
Nick Cage's first Western. Clint's phenomenal in it. It was
actually the first movie I actually did with Ryan. And
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also I think they felt sorry for me they heard
me talking about action figures and stuff. But my daughter
just came off of an incredibly wonderful fun series called
The Lowdown with Ethan Hawk, which I think is going
to clean up this emy season. She's lovely in it,
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and she is currently She shot the pilot this past year,
the new Leads, the newest Slayer in the Buffy the Vampires.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
She's a new Buffy, She's the new Slayers.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
I will never forget the time that you showed me
her audition for Star Wars Skeleton Crew when she was
eleven years old. Right, she was eleven years old, and
you showed me a five minute monologue that she did,
and it blew my socks off and I wanted to
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quit act at that moment because I just thought, this
is something. This is like watching Merle Straight before she
was Merle Straight. The choices, the command, the depth, it
was just scary. Actually, it's kind of scary. She's she
is a natural. She was born to do this.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
You've got a lot of it for me.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
I mean, like I said, when she was born to
be honest. You are a much sought after acting coach,
you have, you train a lot of actors. I mean,
it's like it's a bit it's a good side hustle
(20:44):
for you. It's kind of your used to be your
main hustle. Now it's kind of a side hustle because
you're you're working more and more as people are discovering, uh,
the depth of your talent.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Well, it's it's kind of a like I I went
to school to be a lawyer, and I got into
the business in my late twenties, not even an entertainment lawyer.
I was wanted to be an environmental lawyer, way before
it was cool to say I'm into trees and water, right,
Like that's what that was my jam, right, And so
that's what I went to school for and then decided
(21:17):
somewhere along the way that I was going to go
into the entertainment industry as an actor. And everybody in
the world told me again, I was in my mid
late twenties. Everyone's told me I would never work because
I didn't have any experience. And two and a half
years later, I was starring on Broadway in rent and
I don't sing. So that's kind of weird. It sounds
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like a bit and it's actually the truth.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
That's weird.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
So I had auditioned for Broadway. Once I did the
show for two and a half years, that was my
only experience.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
So wait a minute, hang on a second. It was
just what.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
Those are like top level singers and dance or that
there are in those shows, and there's they churn them
out like link sausages.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
A lot of people didn't like me on that show.
With all due respect, how on joined the show?
Speaker 1 (22:11):
But do you dance? And I know you are a singer.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
No, I know you're a singer, and you you got
some pipes on you. You know I've heard you singing rock
and roll. Yeah, but the dancing I was not.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
Rent if you've saw it, there's not a lot of dance.
My character on top of that, didn't dance. So because
I can't dance, I would also argue that I'm not
a singer, but I could I when I hear things
and I can kind of recreate it all right, pretty
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pretty well?
Speaker 1 (22:45):
Well, well, I mean the show.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
There must be you know, the gift that you passed
on to Ryan, There's got to be something there.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
Both had really good luck. We did. We like. My
first foray into the professional industry landed me in New York,
which was kind of the top of the game by
whatever stretch and whatever miracle. At the same time, I
had booked a two episode contract on my first TV gig,
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which was a series called Queer's Folk, and that two
episode contract became five years for me on that show,
and I was juggling for a good chunk of it,
flying back and forth between New York and Toronto where
they shot Queersfolk for a long period. And then at
the peak of all of that, I kind of pulled
the rug out from underneath myself right and started building
(23:34):
my studio. And the studio in Toronto, which is called
Armstrong Acting Studios, has seen to date over thirty thousand actors. Wow,
we've had that explains the yacht. That explains the yacht?
Speaker 3 (23:48):
Yeah, yep, yeah, Paul signs suckers.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
Yeah, wow, Wow, No, not suckers, I have Uh, you know,
I I put Miley Cyrus onto her for stuff. This
is a true st I work with her dad, Billy,
on a TV series called Doc and that's where I
met Miley and I shoed her right through that whole thing.
(24:17):
Ne A dough brev I found put her onto a
lot of shows, but then Vampire Diaries and Nice. I've
got a pretty insane list of people that I've found
and that I built and then launched, and that for
a good decade before my daughter was born. I you know,
(24:39):
when you have your own business, it's hard to grow,
because you know, you can't pay people. When I look
at how much money I make an hour to talk
about suckers, it's probably two cents an hour when I.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
When I you know, I'm just ribbing your bodies. It's
the complete opposite.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
Right, suckers. But no, No, the reality is, you know,
there was ten years where I made zero money and
the whole goal of me building this studio was to
create an infrastructure and platform for talent, but also for
me to have a passive income later on down the
road when I could pass off the responsibilities of the studio.
(25:21):
I mean, today the studio has a combined faculty and
staff of six people. Really, we have about thirteen hundred
actors that go through every year. Wow, which is amazing.
But I haven't been at the studio for at least
a decade. I have a smaller boutique studio here in
Los Angeles. I've got about one hundred and twenty clients.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
So you did the thing that I was trying to
do back before I got Gilmour. My idea was because
I was teaching, and my idea was to build a
studio and build it out, Yeah, and have a couple
locations or many locations.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
Well, here's what happens. So the goal was to put
all this time and energy and love into something that
would enable me to then come back to the thing
that I originally fell in love with, which was acting.
But then my daughter was born. So what ended up
happening was I hung up yet my hat again to
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be there for her, which I remember. The first time
that she booked her first five month job, people are like,
how how are you going to hang up everything in
the studio and you know, are you going to get
back into acting whatever? Whatever, whatever? How are you going
to do this for five months? I went, five months
is nothing, I said. I think most parents would agree
that they would give their lives for their children, So
(26:37):
what is five months? But then five months became ten
years for her, and we're just at that juncture now
where she's turning sixteen and she's writing her California proficiency
test to be legal eighteen. So I can actually, all
of these years later go back to the thing that
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made me the happiest when I first on the stage
in New York, And now she can do her thing
without me.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
Yeah, well she's coming into town. You'll be reunited it's
gonna be a lovely thing. And uh gosh, come back,
you come back tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
I'm actually already on the list tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
Oh during the big like.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
Eight ages come there's a lot of rain coming. You're
gonna get great seats.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
You could bring the yacht.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
They said you're gonna have the You're gonna have free
reign on the lot. Is that something I meant after
you get there, you're going to be here. Yeah, okay,
yeah yeah, so but I mean, I know you want
to go being host. Is this like Adam Sandler on
Sprinklers go off and he gets soaked?
Speaker 3 (27:44):
No, no, nothing, nothing like it. You're she's coming in.
You're gonna go off and do a vacation right with Ryan.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
Yes, we're gonna go to Joshua try okay for the
New Year's Okay, to the house okay, and then you're
returning when the second Okay, So come on the second
or third or the fourth.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Dean, thanks for stopping by. The studio.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
Trailer.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
It's a pretty nice trailer.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
Nice trailer. Yeah, I've seen I've got a studio. I've
got but the recording studio. I meant this studio.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
I thought it was a karaoke machine, and I thought,
you're bringing me up here to sing. No final last fact,
Scott is a phenomenal singer. No, no, no, I'm not kidding.
I love your voice. I do, and he's he's an
amazing guitar player, I'm not joking. And he's an even
better song writer than all of those things. The combination
fire is fantastic. But Scott happened to see that I
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because we didn't. He didn't know I sang any. I
don't know how. It came up at some point, and
then I don't think he believed me, and then later
he believed me, and then later he said, I got
some songs that I wrote, and I went over and
I listened to him play these songs, and they're incredible,
honestly incredible. I do mean this, it's not joke. And
(29:08):
we had talked about doing a performing them together, yeah,
and doing a show, which I hope isn't dead. Elaine.
Speaker 3 (29:16):
Yeah, because I want him. I want him to sing.
I want I don't want to sing. I want him
to sing. I don't know why, because he's he's a
natural front man. He can he can get out there
and like really entertain and and well away, you know
I don't want to do that.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
Anyway, we did talk about it, and then we he
gets crazy busy, and get it. We all get crazy busy.
But maybe one day all of us can celebrate backstage
after a performance of The Scott and Dean Show. We
call it an S T D S T D S
(29:55):
D D S T T stands for Trouble Scott and
we'll be back after these words with chemical X. This
was a real pleasure. Thank you so much for having
me on your trailer show, Trailer talk, Trailer talk Talk,
(30:16):
Dean Armstrong, It's a pleasure, good friend, good many Love
you too, everybody, and
Speaker 3 (30:50):
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