July 12, 2021 • 65 mins
We couldn't use a Luke quote for the title of this podcast because we can't find Luke! Scott was not in this episode and we're investigating why!
But more important, let's talk about Tristan! (Chad Michael Murray) Do we love him, hate him, love to hate him, hate to love him?!?!??! Scott has a very interesting perspective on this issue.
And, Dean is winning everyone over...find out why!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I Am all in. Oh, I am all in with
Scott Patterson and I Heart Radio podcast. Hey everybody, we're back.
(00:22):
I am Scott Patterson and this is the I Am
All In Podcast with my heart radio ladies and gentlemen.
What an episode? Rory's Dance? What is going on? Where's Luke?
Luke was not in the episode? Did I shoot some
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scenes and they got cut? I don't remember. I don't
know you have any clue, because my gut feeling is
that you you did a scene for this episode that
they had to cut, and it was known if you
didn't work for a week, the audience couldn't handle it
was too powerful. It was too powerful. Were you surprised
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when you watched the episode and you weren't in it? No,
I was too engaged in the episode. I didn't I
didn't care. I told you I don't like watching myself,
so I was kind of happy. At what point did
you realize I'm not in this um after it was
done and I said, wait, I wasn't in that. I
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really enjoyed this episode. I realized until the second time
I watched it. I had a call Danielle and I
was like, what Scott in that the seeds of my
podcast career planted early on. Yes, I need a backup plan. No,
I was in the episode. No, the diner was in
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the background and when she ran out of miss Patties
and said, no, I have to get home. I have
to get home. No, let me explain it to your
as being in it. Well, it's in my contract, guess.
But I got paid for that episode. But do you
remember any scenes that just didn't make it there? There
might have been that scene with Sean Gunn and I
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in a massive fist fight, but it probably No, No,
not at all. No, I just wasn't it. I guess
I wasn't in the episode. You didn't save your scripts,
did you sure? I did. I have every single script
in plastic, and I have every single rehearsal script, and
I have every single table read script. I have literally
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hundreds of scripts. Hello, can you go into the garage
where all the gum is and find out if that
script is in there, because maybe there's something in the script. Dude,
those scripts are in storage in a vault guarded by
Doberman pinchers with razor wire. That's how you're gonna put
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your kid into college with that money? My kid's gonna
get a scholarship, a robotics scholarship. He's not gonna need
me to pay for it. I just you don't think
there's something in the script that was a scene that
you shot but then they had to edit it out
because did that ever happen? No? No, no, no. The
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planning of those scripts was very detailed and very specific,
and um, I think they must have been getting feedback
for the first six or seven episodes that maybe it
was I was taking over the show and they had
to pull the character. I mean, Suki was barely in it.
Suki was barely in it. Michelle wasn't in it. Wait
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was he? Michelle was not in it? Was it? No? No, no, no, yeah,
it was early on. They were still figuring out, you know,
where the character was going and you know what was happening.
I mean, I don't know. No, I wasn't in it,
but Luke's diner was in it in the background, and
that's enough. Well, and the end of the episode, I know,
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I'm going out of order, but the end of the
episode was garly dramatic, like that was hardcore, Like when
she's like, you're going on the pill and Rory's like,
you know, I wouldn't sleep with him. Like the whole
thing was like, Oh, this is the worst thing they've
had yet. Yeah, that was a that was a real
I mean your kids out to I mean, she she
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fell asleep because Emily gave her some pills, right she
got Lauren felt I mean Laura I fell asleep because
she was on mild sedatives her back there was no
Suki gave it to her, right and and yeah, they
both fell asleep. And I don't know, you know what
really a couple of he I was thinking about this
last night. I said, teenage seventeen year olds. They're not drinking, Uh,
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they're they're in there falling in love or they're in love.
They're excited, they're excitable, they're full of energy. How do
they walk into Miss Patties and then all of a
sudden fall asleep because we know it was only like,
wasn't it was maybe ten thirty they bail on the
dance early. It might have been ten What the heck
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happened in Miss Patties that they just fell asleep? I
mean they didn't smoke a joint worn out from the
fight with Tristan and the stacking of the beans and
worn out. It's a Tacos suki bro. When I was seventeen,
I didn't conk once. I don't care how much stress
I had in my day. Seventeen year olds can stay
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until four in the morning without for three days in
her own and they're still like bouncing around. I mean, wow,
maybe there's a gas leak in Miss Patties. I think
it happened, because then we get the crazy scene where
she's running and why it happened. Dude, they're nodding out.
I don't know. I just wanted to point that out
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to the paying audience. It's like, what, well, okay, so
really it's a Emily lore life fight that then came
a lure like Rory catastrophe. That was just typical dumping
on your kid after you'd had a confrontation with your mother.
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You know, the big ugly monster that Emily can be. Um.
I mean, she's right, but she's wrong at the same time, right,
and Rory called her out on it. Rory kind of said,
this is not about me, this is about your mom's right.
I wasn't all together surprised when she started opening up
on on Rory right away. Because you know she supported her.
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I trust my kid in this, but you know, I
don't know. It kind of makes sense, uh, that mother
of her really triggers her. I mean really, and it
was they were getting along and yeah, so then we
were in for a big old boom. But you know,
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Rory kind of deserve that she was out all night.
She conned at ten thirty. What it's not So from
Laurelized point of view, she's probably thinking the same thing.
I'm thinking. You're a teenager, you don't conk what's going on.
You have too much energy to Oh, I just fell
asleep and miss Patty's I wouldn't have believed it either.
I think a mother would think my kid's been in
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a car accident. I think all that fear. Yeah, and
I and I know that Laurel I was thinking, um um,
I'm just fronting from my mother to defend my kid.
But I'm still pissed at my kid because I want
a damn explanation. But I'm not going to break in
front of my mother because I'm not going to give
her the satisfaction that she's right but wrong doing this
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inside my own home. Amazing performance by all three, completely
nailed it, nail just killed it. Just beautiful stuff. Um,
and I mean, what can you say? What can you say? Uh,
perfect ending, sitting down, covering herself, breaking down, just one
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of those days and just be a mom. You know
every mom goes through it. It's real life happening before
our eyes. It's three generations of real life happening before
our eyes. Um. Yeah, just wonderful stuff, wonderful, great episode.
It's the episode I started liking Dane and Tristan. I
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really thought Paris was certifiable. Good God, oh my god.
And with the cousin and the whole thing is god sad.
And then first when Tristan is buying the ticket and
he sort of teases, like you got a date, the
first time he's actually vulnerable with Rory. I mean that's
when he we see that he needs her, wants her,
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really likes her. It's not just a game now, it's
like he really needs there's a need there. Um, there
was a need before just to play the game, because
he's just testing her the way Laura I tested Max,
you know what I mean, and tests me and you
know that kind of thing distance distantance. So um yeah,
but I mean the takeaway from me, is is in
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that dynamic with those characters. The only thing that dated
that show for me was the behavior of Paris. I mean,
that kind of behavior was isn't gonna fly today? Isn't
amazing how that particular character in that situation didn't age well.
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I mean, like I said, like I said previously, I mean,
if she can't handle Um, if she can't handle Rory
and and and Tristan, if she's gonna trigger to that
degree where she's like physically and verbally violent, like bordering
on psychosis, how is she going to handle Harvard? I mean,
there's a thousand Tristan's there. There's there's a thousand Rorris there.
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I mean, she's gonna freak out over there in Harvard.
Harvard's ten thousand students, it's ten thousand students undergraduates, and
it's twenty graduate students. So you know, it's it's it's
not a huge campus. It's not a huge college, but
it's you know, there's enough people there. Paris is going
to be in trouble. She's not a type of person
you want to go to Harper No. I mean you
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know that that Paris is always sort of on the
edge of good God losing it. But I mean she
came on glued. I'm glued perfect. She came on glued
through that entire she started abusing the poor little fellow
sitting next to her who was getting the change. At
least she didn't recite Shakespeare and somebody's here here well,
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I mean, at least that's you know, that's sort of
harnessing the rage and turning it into something else, which
is you know, there's there's some art and that, there's
some there's that that's poetic. But I mean she's just
out and out, just like Lunacy throughout the whole episode.
You kind of do love the comic relief teenage noss
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of Louise and Madeline. They're always there to just be
teenage like and kind of honey and Madeleine always having
the last word and coming off like a nice person.
But what the hell she dealing with Louise, which makes
it even more funny. It's like, what are they doing together?
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It's like Madeline kind of playing along the the goofy sidekick,
and she doesn't she's not really into it, but she is,
and she says she's sorry, and you're a nice persons
all of a hot mess at that dance, that's for sure. Um,
And where were the teachers to break up that fight?
They were dancing, they were all day. I saw a
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lot of older people on the dance floor dancing. They
were the teachers, they had to be. Couldn't have been
the students, you know. But Dean, boy, he didn't waste
any time, doesn't He gets her on the dance floor.
Let's make out. Let's go. And Tristan wanted to make
out with that date too, even in his like longing
for Rory, he was like, Okay, I'll make out with
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my date too. Did she become more desirable because she
had Dean there? Who become more desirable? Oh? God? Far more?
Are you kidding? I mean, you bring a kid like
Dean into the prom and everybody's gonna be talking about
I was not the prom, but the dance, but everybody's
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gonna be talking about a gossip me gossiping about him?
And uh. I thought Dean did very well for himself
in this episode. He really was a stand up guy.
He became he was crowned the boyfriend and he he
deserves her heart at that At that point in time,
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I mean that's that's a very very chivalrous, romantic, Uh,
A manly thing to do is like get away from
my girlfriend. You know, it's wonderful. And you know, as
old fashioned as that seemed, it's you know, sometimes it's necessary,
and it was necessary in that situation. And she was
being harassed by Um Tristan. I mean it's just no
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matter how much you know I liked him, or he's
becoming vulnerable. I mean, he was a problem. I mean,
she was going to Chiltern, trying to learn, trying to
further her education and get into Harvard, and you've got
this jackass kid just just mocking her, just disrespecting her
every time he showed up. Um, even though his reasons
for it are probably understandable, You're right, he really he's
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a jerk to her. He's a total jerk, and he's inappropriate.
And I yeah, I think I think both those characters
probably they're not aging well you know what I mean. Yeah,
there were there were a few parts where it was
a little bit like whoa this is? That's that's very
two thousand. It's very two thousand. Okay, everybody, we're gonna
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take a break when we come back. We're gonna talk
more about Tristan, the wonderful Tristan, the complex Tristan. We'll
be back. Yeah, sorrybody, We're we're gonna get into a
little bit of Chad Michael Murray Tristan uh memories here. Uh.
He was just on the Today Show and he was
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discussing how people react to his character in a very
surprising way to him and I think a surprising way
to us and everybody listening. People came up to him
and and said that they actually really loved his character.
He you know, he he was expecting. You know, usually
people are you know, are very critical of his character,
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you know, negative encounters with fans, but he says they've
they've been very positive, and he's very surprised by it.
So let's let's get into that a little bit, because
this is a big episode for Tristan. And uh, what
do you guys think about this? Do you love him?
Do you hate him? Do you love to hate him?
And also we sort he changed changes a little bit
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too right now. He's pretty awful. I wanted to love him,
and I did love him, and I wanted to give
him a hug when he was standing there when the
camera hit him and he was watching Dean and Rory
kiss on the dance floor. I felt bad for the guy.
I've been that guy. I've been in his shoes. Every
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guy has been in his shoes with a girl that
he wants. And I was no Tristan. I mean, I'm
not trying to compare myself to Tristan. Uh, but that hurts.
That's a gut shot. You're gutted, and boy I felt
bad for I wanted to give him a hug. I
started liking very similar to you in the episode before
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seeing Max and Laurela. It was sort of that same
gut wrenching Yes, Scott, I totally agree with you. Up
until this episode, I was very much like, oh, he
calls her rry, can he please stop? He's so snobby
and annoying and popular. And this episode, I I it
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took a second. I was like, oh, no, there's something
more there, Like I got a little soft spot for him.
It was the first time that I actually felt that way.
And and it was when Rory was standing in line
to buy the ticket for the dance and he came
up and he was his arrogant jackass self, But then
you realize that he really, he's getting a little more
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vulnerable with her, He's revealing a little more, and he's
asking her, you know, still indirectly, but asking her to
go to the dance with him, and it bothers him.
So I kind of started like, oh, okay, all right,
isn't it amazing what vulnerability does. It's just it's just
it's just gosh. Preston is exactly that guy, the guy
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that's popular and handsome but insecure and sort of deals
with it by being kind of a jerk. It made
me think hard, what's going on at his home? What's
happening with mommy and daddy? What's going on? I mean,
it's like, there's there's some bad stuff going on. His
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dad drinking is what's his dad treating him like crap?
Is dad having an affair? It's like, what's going are
their mental issues at home? What's happening that poor kid?
Agree with you? I felt the same way, And I
also thought he was the ultimate pulls your hair because
he likes you. That That was then I started becoming
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like feeling parental toward him, like wanting to reach out
and and take his hand and say, hey, bud, let's
let's let's go on a little walk, you know, and
tell me what's going on in your life. And you know,
I wanted to help him. I'm at that stage of
my life where I have a little bit of wisdom,
you know, a little bit, and and I really wanted
to help that kid. And I thought, boy, he's in trouble.
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He's in big trouble because he's looking like he's going
to fail in life, like if he's if he's this way,
he's this wound up. And I know Rory is extraordinary,
for for sure, she's extraordinary, but uh, and I have
the same thought about Paris too. If she's this wound
up about Rory at at Chilton, what the hell is
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she going to react like when she gets to Harvard
when there's a thousand Rory's and there's a thousand Tristan's.
I agree, it sort of makes sense why Chad Michael
Murray recently said that people come up and say I
love Tristan because they must understand what's really going on.
But first you're like, he's such an ass. But as
an actor, right, the sensitivity of Chad and what he
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did in that moment and the way he looked at
her and the way he felt it completely transformed my
opinion of him. It made me see that's called layering
a character character and that's again right, writing, great acting.
These kids are really good actors. Jesus. These kids are
so young and they're so good at what they do.
I think I think he was eighteen at the time too.
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They're just kids. It's not surprising that this show got
him the lead on One Tree Hill. It, Yeah, it's
not surprising at all. I mean, he's showing a real
depth of uh. I mean, just wow. His soul was
ruined watching her dance with and kissing ruined. He was
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just ruined. And the way he kind of went limp
a little bit and he you know, he confronted Dean
and you know, hey, we haven't met, and then and
then he escalated. But even the way he did that,
and that's a tough scene for for Chad to play
because he's got to come off tough, but he also
has to, you know, go limp a little bit in
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the face of an obviously stronger uh and a more
righteous Dean in the situation, and it's like, how does
he play it? So at a certain point in that scene,
the confrontation scene with Dean. With Dean is I think
he realized and he made his choice as an actor.
He realized that he was in the wrong, that he
was the weaker person, and that Dan Dean made him
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realize that, and he actually felt shame. I felt the
same way physically, he sort of really Yeah, he kind
of gave up so beautifully. Yes, it was. It was.
It's so difficult to do, and he did it beautifully.
He did it beautifully. He kind of manned up. But
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then he, you know, he knew he was in the wrong,
and I think he pulled back because he realized that,
especially when he went in for the last time and
and and Dean just said before they started pushing each other, Um,
he just kind of you could see in his eyes
a light go out a little bit like this, he
wasn't going to get his way. And I think it
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was almost he was almost doing it because he didn't
want to get his way. I think he did it
because he wanted Dean to beat him up. I think
he did it because he thought he deserved to get
beaten up. Yeah. I don't think any of what you're
saying is wrong. I think you're kind of right. I
can't decide if he's spoiled or what the deal is,
but yeah, I think he's just super sad on the inside.
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I think he's he's very wealthy, he's very privileged. He's
so handsome. Yeah, great looking kid, and it's got everything
going for him. But boy, what a facade because there's
a hurt, wounded soul behind that thing, and it's so
interesting to see it. It's really interesting for him to
peel that layer back and to show us that he's not. Yeah,
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I'm a I'm a jackass and I know I'm a jackass,
and I don't like it, so please beat me up,
because why else would you? Why else would you challenge
somebody who's, like, you know, three inches taller than you are.
It's interesting when we read that Chad gets that reaction.
We did like an informal poll, Danielle where they're like,
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what happened? It was pretty split forty eight in favor
of Tristan and don't like him. So I think we
get the opinions from people who like him and hate him.
It's like, I I sort of loved it, hate him. Yes,
the character allows you to really, you know, vent on
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somebody like that, because we've all had people like that
in our lives, right, um um. But I don't know,
I'm I like him, I want to get to know
him now. I'm interested in like finding out what's going
on with him. Yeah, you really kind of love Tristan
and Dean in this episode. I mean, I still think
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Tristan's he's a eighteen he's a kid, he's seventeen, you know.
I mean, come on, those kids are They're so filled
with confidence, you know, and you know, nothing really bad
has happened to them yet. Nobody's ever said no to
them yet. They just haven't been out in the world.
But I think in Tristan's background, something's going wrong and
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it's and it's and it's going it's going wrong, like
right now as it's happening, and he's he's freaked out
by it. You know, maybe the parents split up, Maybe
the parents are fighting a lot or splitting up, or
who the heck knows. Yeah, And I think I think
he's probably just a very sensitive, very intelligent boy who
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was probably a very sweet boy, and he's getting abused.
Somebody's abusing him. Maybe his father is verbally abusing him
or being too rough. With him or cutting him down?
You know, who knows? Who the hell knows? But it's
like I want to know. I want to know what
it is. What's his damage? Boy, let's get him on.
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I want to I wanna because he has more insight
and he, you know, made these choice, maybe had some
conversations with Amy about background that's not in the show.
So it would be interesting to find pretty sweet guy.
He's a sweet guy in their life, as you know. Yeah,
he's a good dude. Okay, Danielle, tell us how we're
going to solve this conundrum. So we have one listener
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that is calling it right now, Easton, if you want
to let her in from the waiting room. Her name
is Amelia. Hates him, she likes him. Hello, Amelia, Hi,
how you doing? Goodness? My goodness? Right pack at you?
How are you doing? Let me? Where are you calling
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in from? Look at the sweatshirt? Got the Luke sweatshirt on?
There you go representing alright? Where you Where are you from? Amelia?
Joshua Tree, California? Oh my god, you're out in the
desertn't really working for my my temperature outside? No? No, no,
what's it out there? Something crazy? Yeah? The Desert. Thank
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God for free on. So you have either a question
or a comment for us? Oh well, I mean, yeah,
you guys um in your stories. So he talked about
Tristan um if people liked him or didn't like him,
And I know a lot of people probably don't like him,
but I mean I don't like him, like I want
to hang out with Tristan. But I think as a
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character he's really dynamic. There's a lot there and I
love to unpack that stuff. As a viewer, I like
that he's kind of puts up a facade. I mean
he's a teenager, so you remember that. I mean I
started watching the show when I was ten, so I
didn't pick up any of this then. But um, you
know he's a teenager. He's figuring it out. And I
think that he just wants validation from girls at school,
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boys school, his parents, and he gets it obviously in
the wrong ways. So he puts up this like not
a very nice guy saw it. So he's kind of misunderstood.
But there's moments where you could see he has like
a heart and a soul. They're fleeting, but they happen, Um,
And I just think he's really misunders that he does
it to himself. But he's a teenager, so you know,
she engages with him. You know, she doesn't just walk
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away or ignore him. There's some sort of push pool
there because she always sort of ping pongs with him,
meaning Rory. Yeah, I mean, and he's a cutie pie.
I mean it's Chad Michael Murray. So I'm not complaining.
If I was in high school with Chad Michael Murray,
I'd probably be like, all right, So I mean, well,
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you know, um, we were discussing this and this episode
is specifically, um Rory's dance when she goes to children
dance and they getting Dean and and Tristan get into there,
you know, almost fisticuffs. Um. You know, I started liking
I started liking Tristan because just for the reasons that
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you just stated, because there's something there. There's maybe something
going wrong in his home life and he doesn't know
how to handle it, and he's internalizing it. It's being
out in all these ways and he's probably he's you know,
he's mimicking both his parents, right, So he's being imprinted
in a very negative way somehow over a period of time,
and he's you know he's coming off like this, this
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giant jerk, and I'm sure I see that from his
behavior in this episode that he is not a giant jerk.
I don't think he. I think there's something very sweet
and soulful there and he's lost it. He's lost himself
and he needs to get himself back, which is why
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I think and obviously he thinks Rory can help him. Yeah,
I completely agree. I feel like and even if he's
like getting that negative imprint from his parents, maybe even
they're not giving him enough attention, so he's like, how
can I get attention, I'll act out, um, And yeah,
I just think there's not a lot of self love there.
There's not, like feel like, there's a lot of self
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doubt within himself, and he acts out negatively and he
sees something good in Rory, which I mean he doesn't.
I mean, she's just she's just a breath of fresh
air and completely unaffected and beautiful and breezy and smart,
and it's probably everything he's been looking for and hasn't
been able to find. I mean, it's like it's either
it's either Louise or or it's hurts Rory, which line
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you're gonna stand in right, I mean Louise right right. Yeah,
she's still nice to him. She like finds the good
in him, and you think he sees that and picks
up on that. So it's like, Okay, even though I
called you marry and I was that typical like I
don't know, school grade school, like I'm going to be
mean to you because I like you attitude. She's looked
past that and it's just shown him kindness. And I
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mean anyone that's I feel like like him is going
to look at that and be like, hey, wait a minute,
I like you. She's she's look, she's a little she's
a little rough with him. I mean she she gives
him his do uh when they're standing in line, when
she's buying the tickets. I mean she's really kind of
going after him a little bit. I mean she's she's
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returning service beautifully. Yeah, I love it, especially when she
yells at him after she hits the deer. I mean
I appreciate that. So yeah, I just think there's a
quality about Tristan that I'm intrigued by. Now. I'm fascinated.
I want to I want to get to know him
a little better. And I hope. And I haven't seen
the episodes obviously, I've just I've stopped at Rory's dance,
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but I'm I'm intrigued to see how he develops. And
I'm starting to like Dean too. But I know I've
been listening and I'm like, no, no, but I didn't
like the Boogie night thing and hey, now it's my
turn and you know this kissing and the thing and
and the Dozies marketing. I know I didn't like all
that stuff, but you know it's like now this fresh
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episode and he's, uh, he's he's being a good boyfriend
and it's kind of cool because she's, you know, hey,
so what do we you my boyfriend? And it's like,
I don't know, you want me to be? It is,
it's very it is very sweet and he's a sweet kid.
He's showing that side of himself. Um, so, Amelia, so
(30:09):
thank you for coming on. It was a very interesting discussion.
Oh well, thank you. We really appreciate the input. Um,
and good luck with your photography out there in Joshua
Tree and thank you and thank you. This is crazy.
You're Luke, I mean your Scott, but you're Luke. And
I've been watching you since I was ten and your
show shaped me and I just this is amazing, So
(30:32):
thank you so much, wonderful. We've had a lot of
fun and uh and nice talking to you. Yeah you too,
thank you. All right, sweetheart, I think we've got somebody
in the waiting room, uh for a fan question, and
let's let's get question. We need a high so let's
(30:55):
let's jump into your question. You emailed a question and
we're curious. Go ahead and give us your question. Okay.
So um, in season one, episode nine, where Rory goes
to the dance, UM, Emily sitting on the couch with
Flora Lae and she's trying, um, some smashed bananas on toast,
(31:15):
and when Emily gets up from the couch, there's a
piece of neon green tape those under the chair where
she's been sitting. And then in season six, episode thirteen,
Friday Night is all Right for Fights, Suki and Loria
la are in an outdoor flower market and they have
(31:36):
the same piece of neon green tape that's on their jackets,
and UM, I'm assuming that it's like a place marker
for where they stand or the jackets that they were
supposed to use for the scene and then it maybe
just didn't get removed. But UM, I'm wondering if you
could maybe speak to that a little bit more on um,
what is like to be an actor and have such
(31:57):
intense dialogue and um and be having to move at
a certain place, being a certain position, um, especially being
like um for your character being in the diner being um,
cooking or cleaning or busting a table at the same
time while you're while you're acting. So, yes, you're you're
(32:18):
right about the tape. It every actor gets a color designation.
I guess the green tape. I guess that was assigned
to Uh, Kelly, is that what you're saying? You saw
it first with with Emily Gilmour, Yes, since season one? Yes,
(32:39):
so yeah, so so Emily. I guess was was green
because when the crew comes in, when we come in
for a full crew rehearsal uh, and we've figured out
sort of our movements and are it's called blocking, and
where we're gonna go on certain lines and all the
you know, the the balletic, the core the choreography of
(32:59):
the scene where everybody's moving. Um. Uh. The crew he's
the crew guy has a many different colored tapes uh
in a holster and he pulls out that tape because okay,
so Luke moves over here, so I mean I forget
I I forget which color I was. It was probably
red or something like that, and he said, or blue
(33:21):
or something. He put a blue tape down there so
that you I would know where my first mark was.
And then they do the same thing for all the actors.
So there's lots of pieces of different colored tape all
over the floor and that's that's the roadmap for all
of the actors to see. And you can't look at it,
but you know it's there, So so that's your that's
(33:43):
kind of like your UM, your navigation system that we
used to make sure we knew we were standing on
the right mark because that's where they set the lighting.
So if if if you're standing on your mark, then
the lighting is gonna hit you right and you know
the director is gonna be happy, and if you miss
your mark, the lighting is going to be off, and
then everybody else's lighting is going to be off because
(34:04):
you're gonna pull their looks over in the wrong direction.
And then they yell cut and said you gotta hit
your mark. We gotta do it again. So and as
far as how to um to do all the the
you know, the physical stuff and the and the serving
of the food and you know that's um. You know,
that's something you learn in acting school. Uh. And you
(34:27):
just sort of keep gradually adding on more tasks to
do and in scenes and scene work that you're doing
in class. Uh. And then when you do plays you
have to do that as well. There's a lot of
props to deal with, and there's a whole course of
study on how to deal with props and how to
handle props and do you have to do it the
same for every take? Yes, you do. Yeah, that's called matching.
(34:50):
You have to match. So if George comes up to you, say, Scott,
that didn't match, I said, oh, what did I do?
I said, you put the plate down on the word
after you know the and you put it. Yeah. So
if you miss it even by that much, so it's exacting.
So your rehearsal process nails down all of the movement
(35:10):
and the and the props and uh um and the
lighting scheme and the choreography. And if you miss any
anything but even buying a very in your brain, you
have to go like cut plate toast, cut plate toast,
and then you're also doing all those crazy lines. You're
like blah blah blah, cut plate toast. Whoa, that sounds
(35:32):
kind of loud. You are truly exhausted at the end
of the day because you're just your brain is is
is just you know, trying to absorb all this stuff
all day and you know, sending all those signals out
to every part of your body. And uh and plus
you know there's a there's an emotional life there too
(35:54):
that has to be um, um, oh my god, right come,
plate toast line, line, line right right right. So it's
but it's not anything. The more you do it, the
better you get at it, and the more comfortable you
feel with it. And I got to the point on
Gilmore where I I preferred using a lot of props
and being very proppery and very active with the props
(36:16):
because it's just, you know, it was easier for me
to attach what line was I'm going to pick the
couple on or drop the plate or pick up the
plate and the whole thing and it's sort of I
don't know, it just made it easier to do a scene. Um.
Whereas when you're out there in the desert and it's
just the two of you're talking. That's tough because I
remember that kitchen scene in the in the reboot, where
I was passionately pleading with Laurel La not to leave
(36:39):
me when um, and it was just the two of us,
there were no props to deal with. There was nothing,
And that's when you're truly naked emotionally, and those are
more difficult to pull off, um because you can't really
you know, you can't hide behind the props anymore. Um. So, anyway,
(37:00):
I hope that answers your question. Yeah, that's very interesting.
Thank you so much, Thank you, Thank you Winita for
coming on and uh and uh and keep watching, thanks listening.
Stay safe, all right, take care. You know, let's have
a little fun. Let's let's go ahead and re enact this.
We had so much fun doing it last week. Let's
(37:20):
let's reenact the scene where uh, you know, Rory goes
into Dosie's Market to ask Dean to the dance and
and Keiko is breathlessly, you know, staring through the glass
to see what happens. So she she even says to Royce, says,
you know, annuncate your words, I read lips. So so
we're gonna we're gonna re enact this with uh with
(37:43):
another lovely fan. Who who do we have? Is that Heather?
How are you doing? You're wearing the hat or is
that just your natural look? Like it is rocking the look?
It's out of respect of it. At this, Look at this, Heather,
That's awesome. I gotta put my glasses on to check
(38:05):
this out. This is look at you. That's a that's
a Luke suit. It is number one top drawer. Welcome
to the show. Thank you so much. I'm so excited
to be here. How did it hat? What are you
calling in from? I live in Seattle, Seattle, all the
(38:26):
way from Seattle. Yeah, not too far from you. Guys though,
did you work on the scene? Because I didn't? I did? Um,
I hope I do it justice. Well, I know I'm
gonna suck. I'm not going to be a good Dean.
I'm playing Dean because I'm not in this episode. I know.
I well, that's what when I heard it was this one,
(38:47):
I thought, not even in this one. Luke's not even
make sense. We'll create our own scene. I know it's
going to be great. The scene that that that hit
the cutting room floor never made it on the episode aired.
All right, so now I'm by Now I have to
I have to be Dean. Okay, so this will be
the biggest acting challenge of my life. I know how
(39:08):
you feel about Dean too, so he love Jared. But
but you know what, Dean he I like him in
this episode. I liked what happened. He's very good in
this episode. Yeah, you know, it's like I might be
kicking just to the curb pretty soon. I might be
doing that. I might do that because I like Dean
in this I like Dean in this episode. She wants
(39:29):
to make it right too. You know, at the end
of the episode, he really tries. He wants to go
with Rory back to talk to her mom. I mean,
he does the right thing. He does the right thing.
He figured out how to get out of his car
and stop honking. I like. I like that. He's an
intelligent young man. You don't run out when a boy
honks for you. Tell you what man Jess might be.
(39:54):
You know, I know he's blood, I know he's family.
But I like the Dean going after the tris didn't
it was It was good. Yeah, and knock out the
Mary Boy. You know, I'm a recent Team Jess convert.
Actually I was a team Okay, don't don't be too upset.
I know somebody else is also a Team Logan hardcore, Yes,
(40:16):
Amy is. I mean, I was Team Logan for so long.
I loved how they challenged each other, and I love
how they changed one another. I love how he came
full circle at the end. But you know what, after
the revival, I changed my mind because I was so
disappointed in the relationship. There a sort of relationship then,
and I saw how Jess really helped Rory, and she
(40:39):
had that great idea for the book, and even at
the end when he looked at her through the window,
I was like, that's that's the one. So I'm now
a Team Jess. I never thought i'd say it, but
years later, I'm a convert. I'm still I'm still Team Jett,
Team Jess. But I gotta tell you, the opportunity to
get into the skin of Dean in an acting scene
(41:02):
might help me get that that five percent I need
to get to get the Team Dean. Because I'm I'm
right there, I'm right on the fence. I liked what
I saw in this episode from that young boy. I
like this scene. He's really I mean, what a great guy.
He restrained himself, he didn't swing and punch. He just said,
(41:22):
I'm not going to fight you, because what does I
kill you? And he didn't mean kill in the sense
that he'd kill him. He meant kill when that he
would defeat him badly. So yes, yes, there would be
damage to the Tristan Uppers and Lowers that Dennis would
be very the Orthodonis between. I like this episode anyway,
(41:47):
So you ready to act? Have you been working on it?
I don't know. I made my husband run through it
with me a bunch of times. I don't know how
to play Dean, and now I have to be eighteen,
and that's you know, I'm I'm a little four years
past eighteen. But let's see what I can do. I
was trying to put myself back in. What is it
like when you're a teenager and you're this is so
(42:08):
vulnerable to ask somebody to a dance, you know. I
was trying to put myself back there, because that's that's hard.
It was hard what I think we both need to
do since we're since we're are both of our voices
is probably bottomed out since we were teenagers. We need
to be at a higher pitch. We need to be high. Yeah,
we can't be so low in our throat. We can't be.
(42:28):
So let's try that. So maybe we can be. We
will try it. Not not necessarily squeaky, but sometimes Rory
does come off squeaky. She can be sometimes. And for you, Heather,
to achieve that level of cuteness and vulnerability in your voice,
my god, let's see what happens. I don't know. Now
(42:49):
you're setting me up. I'll try it, alright, alright, uh, alright,
everybody settle Heather, you're good ready? Good? Yes? Yes, yes, yes?
And action? Hey oh hey you're busy. Yeah no, I
(43:11):
just had to put these green beans chip ands on
the shelves. You want to help? Yeah, sure, I love
stucking beans. Okay, follow me. So do you work on Saturdays?
I forget, Well, it depends. Sometimes I come in if
I don't have any plans. So why no reason? This
is so bad? I can't do Dean to save my life,
(43:36):
killing going, keep going, I'll try to find another Dean voice.
Go ahead, See there's this thing at my school on Saturday.
Well it's not really at my school, but it's it's
kind of given by my school. What is it? Well,
it's this kind of thing where you go and they
play music and you're supposed to get all dressed up
and do some kind of dance and there's chicken chicken.
(43:57):
I don't know if there's chicken, but these kinds of things,
they often serve chicken because it's probably cheaper and people
eat it. So the logical the chicken twists really is
not bad. I'm lost, and it's not like I'm dying
to go or anything, but it is a new school
and being part of social activity that's really important in Chilton.
So are you asking me to go to a dance
(44:21):
with you? No? Yes, I mean if you wanted to go,
I would go to. Well that'd probably good since it's
your school, right, So do you want to go? Honestly? Yeah,
I've actually never gone to a dance before because they're lame.
It's just not the way I ever wanted to spend
(44:41):
my timing. I mean, I'm I'm not a big joiner. Okay,
fair enough? More beans? Please? You want to go, don't you? No?
I don't. I don't have any desire to go at all.
I was just thinking out loud, that's all. Huh. So
what would I have to wear? What to this dance? What?
(45:05):
What would I have to wear? Anything you want? No? Really?
Whatever you're comfortable. Some sort of pants would be good.
It's coding, TI, man, But you probably get away with
the coating. No time I have to take. You have
to take a longer pause. Yeah, give me that line again.
(45:28):
But you could probably get away with the coat and
no tie. H okay, really, thank you? That was excellent.
I had one more line, the most important line of
(45:48):
the whole thing. Alright, cut, we're gonna have to do
it again. Maybe you just give that last line. I
can give the one before welcome. There you go, done,
We're good. There you good? So we can we can
splice that in. Actually, I felt the scene gained real
life when Amy jumped in at the end. I like that.
(46:10):
I thought Heather was so much better than Danielle and Riley.
It was amazing. I thought Heather was fantastic. Good thank
you costuming too, since she got in character even though
she wasn't portraying that character. Rory as Luke and I
had to meet Luke as Dean that's a game of twister,
(46:32):
mental twister right there. For the thing that's that's really like,
what's they're not? How are they going to colate that?
It's it's But you did a great job. You were
really good, Scott. I'm really happy you changed your voice
because that Dean voice and something else. I was struggling.
I just didn't know what I thought. It was actually
(46:57):
my eyes for a minute, I closed my eyes for
a minute, and I really felt it was deep. I
was inhabited. Dean was inhabiting me. It was. It was
weird spiritual experience, you know, before you go. Do you
have any questions or tips for us as we try
to improve this? Uh? I am all in podcast. I'm
just so excited doing this. This show is meant so
much to me. So you guys being here each week,
(47:18):
I mean it's taking me through everything, everything in your life.
There's something about in Gilmore's with it, you know, heartbreak,
going to college, graduating, even when my dad had a
heart attack. I thought Gilmore's has that, you know. Um
So I I love it. Um. I love that you're
breaking down this, you know, the episodes and any behind
the scenes stuff is always great. I do have a question.
(47:41):
I always said I would ask if I ever got
the opportunity. It's skipping way ahead, but if anybody's listening,
I kind of figured that they've already kind of watched it. Anyway.
So Orla comes to Luke at the diner and says,
we gotta get moving with the marriage thing. Let's elope
April needs to figure out how she's going to fit
into lives, not the other way around. Let's go. Luke says,
(48:02):
I can't jump, you know, it's too fast. Laura Lai says, okay,
I'm out. She leaves, and she goes and she sleeps
with Christopher, and then Luke cons and he's all packed up,
he's got all his stuff, he's got the camping gear,
he's ready to go, and he says, let's do it.
And she says, I slept with Christopher and he leaves.
And I always wondered if she hadn't slept with Christopher,
(48:24):
do you think that they would have stayed together, like
what would have happened after that? Well? Yeah, I don't
remember any of that, but I do. I think, of course,
logic would dictate that the chances would be much better
than there's this thing that funny, quirky thing about people
(48:45):
in relationships. When you sleep with someone else, it somehow
affects adversely the relationship that you're in. Isn't that wild?
I don't blame Luke for leaving and he even goes
and he goes straight to Christopher's apartment and punch boom
right in the kisser right there. It's because it's a fan.
(49:06):
You don't want Lorela to sleep with Christopher at that point,
and so it's really satisfying. But that's the that's the
craft of you know, the craft of writing will do
the thing to the fans that they least want in
order to get them to lean forward. Because now you
(49:29):
feel like you're you're involved in it. I mean, they're
really messing with you now, right, So it's uh, you know,
that's that's what good writers do. They give you what
you want sometimes, but they give you a lot of
what you don't want, so or what you think you
don't want anyway. Um, yeah, that's very What season are
(49:51):
you even talking about here? What season is? So it's
season seven? Is to come back in about three years?
You would have me back in that time. I would
be happy to come back and ask again, we can
all chat, but I just always had it on my
mind because I mean, I'm so glad they ended up together.
(50:12):
Obviously we know Luke and Laurelar end game, we know that,
but I always just had that thought, why why at
the end there did they you know? Was there that?
So it's just heartbreaking. It's a heartbreaking breakup right there.
The life of a fan, right it is. Even as
(50:34):
many times as I watched it, it's still I still
can't get over it. It's tough, right Yeah, Yeah, but
you were fantastic. That was an amazing reading. Thank you,
Thank you so much. Thank you for having just a
delight and an honor. Um. And yeah, when we get
(50:55):
to that episode, when we get to that episode season seven,
which will be in a couple of years, knock on wood,
then we should have you back. Yeah, please do, because
I would just I would love nothing more than to
discuss that bazing job. Heather, Thank you so much, No,
thank you guys, thanks so much, Um, and thanks for
(51:15):
doing the podcast. So, I mean, it means so much
to so many people, it really does, so I appreciate it,
as they'll speak for all the fans that we appreciate
it and it's for you guys, and much appreciate it. Okay,
all right, have a good day, take care talk. So
wasn't she great? I love it when the fans call
(51:35):
in and it's so much fun. They're so great. Then
they're they're dressing up, they're wearing their paraffin, they're wearing
their gear. You know they're gearing up. Anyway, gear time
for a comedy bit where we're all going to try
bananazon toast. I didn't. I couldn't mash mine. I couldn't
(51:56):
deal with it. I feel like it's going to be
grosser if I mash it. It's definitely gonna be grosser
if you match more gross It's but I have banana circles,
I have pieces of banana. I couldn't mash it. It
looks so heinous. It was just like, it doesn't look
like mashed bananas. That look like something else. Are you
(52:17):
trying it? Well? In theory, a piece of toast and
a banana would be like a fine breakfast. It's that
it was mashed like baby food. Yeah, it was. It
was just awful to say, mine is more like the
way you would want your avocado toast, right right, right?
I can see. I have my banana slice. Okay, ready
(52:38):
on three on three, Ready on three one two? Not
that bad? Welcomes terrible. Oh it's not good. Actually, now
(53:00):
it's a very odd taste. Oh god, that's awful. It
was an after like at first it was okay. Yeah,
at first it's okay, and then you start chewing and
it's like, don't eat more of it? What are you doing?
I got banana is awesome. I'm just eating the toast.
I'm not going to waste a perfectly good piece of toast.
I knew that would be bad just looking at it.
(53:22):
Looks bad, right, everybody that the bananas and toast is,
in a word, heinous. It is. It is truly, truly
an awful combination. And just the fact that Emily force
fed that to a young Laurel I uh says, I
(53:44):
think a lot about Emily so because we just we
just tried, we we tried to force feed ourselves. We
couldn't even do it. I spit it out. It's over
there right now, get it. I'm gonna get it out
of the room. On break. I'm like removing this from
the room. I don't even want to look at it,
all right, we'll be back after these words. Yeah, okay, everybody,
(54:07):
We're back. I'm Scott Patterson and this is the I
M all In podcast you're listening to on iHeart Radio.
It is time for one of our favorite segments, pop
Culture Ladies and gentlemen. Riley take it away. I'm Riley
and this is your pop culture first. We have Laura
l You know, mom, you have a Barbara stand wicked voice. So,
(54:30):
Barbara Stanwick was an American actress, model, and dancer active
from to Barbara became a zeke Field Follies dancer at fifteen.
The Follies were classy, spectacular show featuring the great talents
of the day. She was actually the highest paid woman
in America in ur raking four thousand dollars that year.
(54:52):
A fun fact. One more fun fact. Last night I
was watching Back to the Future at number one, and
when Marty McFly goes back to the fifties, Barbara Stanwick
is starring in the movie with Ronald Reagan at the
movie theater in Hill Valley, Boom. I think she was
(55:12):
on a show called A Big Valley. She was on
TV two. She she was a staple in our household.
And when I was growing up. Barbara stand was a
big story. You love some old timey references on Gilmore Girls.
Keep them coming, Laura I says, become a crazy Oscar
Levant kind of celebrity, go on talk shows. Heckel Regis so.
Oscar Levant was an American concert pianist, composer, and music conductor.
(55:35):
From nineteen sixty. Oscar dropped out of high school to
pursue music. While he was considered a multi faceted genius,
he also had been known as a notorious hypochondriac and
a nice little regius pop culture mentioned in that same sentence,
who was the Regius and Kathy Lee? Then Regis and Kelly,
(55:56):
which is now Kelly and Ryan Seacrest, Rory says to Tristan, really,
does Susan Faluti know about this? So? Susan Fluti was
an American feminist, journalist and author from the nineteen eighties
to now. Susan's a strange father survived the Holoclast. She
also has dual citizenship between the US and Hungary. Her
(56:17):
most recent book is about fluid and binaries. Rory says,
I hear Squeaky from is Up for Pearl Soon. Squeaky
was an American criminal who was a member of the
Manson family cult led by Charles Manson. Actually, on September
five and Sacramento, Squeaky attempted to assassinate President Gerald Ford
by aiming a firearm at the president, which was later
(56:38):
determined not to be loaded. And Squeaky's up for Pearl soon,
Laura Lee, While Mom, look at you, you think Ann
Taylor was having a sailor or something. So everyone knows
Ann Taylor as a woman's clothing store, But did you
know that Ann Taylor is not actually a real person.
The retail chain is named after a best selling shirt
dress style in the night ten seventies, and taylor shopping
(57:01):
bag was inducted in the Smithsonian's Permanent collection. And Taylor
is not a real person. That expands a lot, clears
a lot of stuff up for me, Laura Lie, Hey Dean,
Meet my mother. Emily Post. Emily Post is an American author, novelist,
and socialite. Emily is famous for writing about etiquette, and
(57:23):
her book is called Emily Post Etiquette. The book was ironically,
at one point the second most stolen book from libraries,
the first being The Bible Etiquette Two Bits of Etiquette,
advice from Emily. So once they read the book, they
returned the book because that's etiquette, and they steal the Bible.
One of the piece of etiquette is thank your host
twice and when in doubt, where the planar dress. It
(57:43):
is always far better to be underdressed than overdressed. Thank
you Scott, because you're our host. Thank you Scott. Thanks
for dressing and you're definitely underdressed. Thank you very much,
Laura Lie, I mean it. You could have gotten Fred
McMurray too, off, Dad, you'd really wanted to. Fred has
(58:06):
appeared in more than a hundred films, many of them Western.
Some of his other films include My Shaggy Dog and
My Three Sons, My Three Sons, Huge hit when I
was growing up, Huge hit that theme song. Wow. He
was the first person ever named a Disney Legend, and
(58:27):
at one point he was the fourth highest paid actor
in America. Next ones for Amy Rory. I'll be standing
in the back listening tore Oh. I know so many
fun facts about degrees bring him or would you need
me to do them? How do you know so many?
Because I was there with nine degrees from the very beginning.
So here's a little fun fact that Nick Lasha just
(58:50):
revealed in that their song The Hardest Thing. Nick hated
the line about Dr Shivago and then that song became
one of their biggest hits. Riley, what else you got?
Rory says, have you seen The Outsiders? Just call me
pony boy. So The Outsiders was actually originally a book,
(59:11):
but the book was created into a film packed with
a cast full of Hollywood's upcomers such as Matt Dylan,
Rob Low, Patrick Swayze, and Tom Cruise just to name
a few. I think Ralph Macchio was in there, Diane Lane.
That was like packed with stars, packed with stars. So
the book was written by S. E. Hinton was Susan
Elise Hinton, a fifteen year old school student in Tulsa
(59:34):
who wrote The Outsiders. Editors suggested she go by s
E so readers could and for a male author was responsible. Unbelievable. Okay,
I think it's time to uh go to our produce
one of our producers, Danielle, to get an update on
the clown pillow. Danielle take it away. So the clown
(59:56):
pillow was really sneaky this episode. You really had to
it watch, like really watched to find it, um I
had Did anybody notice it? Nope? No, no, okay, So
the clown pillow when um Suki comes over with the
burritos and lor La is talking to um her mom
(01:00:17):
like on the phone, talking to Emily on the phone. Um,
it is propped up next to her. But it's just
a side view of it, but you can it's very
clown pillow. Ask. You can see like the side profile
of the clown and it's right there waiting for everyone
to look at it. You have clown pillow eyes, Daniel,
I really do. I have one other little interesting tidbit
(01:00:40):
that you may or may not have spotted, but I
found this with my internet research. During Tristan and Dean's confrontation,
the actor who played Caesar is in the background. Yes,
maybe we can do a zoom in so people can
see it on our social media. But they think maybe
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he was just a background actor playing a different character.
Unless Caesar moonlights at high school dances. Uh. You know,
the more days that he works, the more money he makes.
So probably he was in the club and they just
they threw him another episode. Now it's time for favorite lines.
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Who's going to start us off? Riley go ahead. So
I love when Emily says this is not a drive through,
she is not fried chicken. When Dean hanks to come
get her, that was my Daniel. You're gonna have to
come up with another one. It's okay, I have to
just in case this happens. So my second one is
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when Laura Lee goes shield the talk. I love that.
Oh my god, they're holding coconuts and leering. It's funny
you treated my lovely gift for a semi pornographic leering
monkey lamp. How could you bacca rock crystals for a
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monkey lamp? Um? I think my favorite line was when
Emily's going back and forth on the phone with Laura
Lae about Lauraa making Rory's dress, and Emily said something like,
please don't use the curtains. That's actually a poster reference.
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We sort of missed because it was the sound of
real reference. We should have had that so insulting. It's like,
you have no you're you're my daughter, but you have
no taste, and I fear you will use the curtains
to make a dress. I have to add in one
more line. I'm sorry, I this one was just so good.
Um when Tristan and Dean were fighting and Dan goes,
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you will not go near her ever again. So good. Yeah,
Dean up in his game. That's Rory's dance. Everybody, what's
the episode next week that we all need to watch?
Forgiveness and stuff? Forgiveness and stuff. Really that sounds like
a big episode. You're in it. I'll cover my eyes.
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I'm actually liking some of this stuff. I'm liking some
of this stuff. I do. Who cares thought about me? Listen? Uh,
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I am Scott Patterson and this is the I Am
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What an episode? Rory's Dance? What is going on? Where's Luke?
Luke was not in the episode? Did I shoot some
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scenes and they got cut? I don't remember. I don't
know you have any clue, because my gut feeling is
that you you did a scene for this episode that
they had to cut, and it was known if you
didn't work for a week, the audience couldn't handle it
was too powerful. It was too powerful. Were you surprised
(01:05):
when you watched the episode and you weren't in it? No,
I was too engaged in the episode. I didn't I
didn't care. I told you I don't like watching myself,
so I was kind of happy. At what point did
you realize I'm not in this um after it was
done and I said, wait, I wasn't in that. I
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really enjoyed this episode. I realized until the second time
I watched it. I had a call Danielle and I
was like, what Scott in that the seeds of my
podcast career planted early on. Yes, I need a backup plan. No,
I was in the episode. No, the diner was in
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the background and when she ran out of miss Patties
and said, no, I have to get home. I have
to get home. No, let me explain it to your
as being in it. Well, it's in my contract, guess.
But I got paid for that episode. But do you
remember any scenes that just didn't make it there? There
might have been that scene with Sean Gunn and I
(02:09):
in a massive fist fight, but it probably No, No,
not at all. No, I just wasn't it. I guess
I wasn't in the episode. You didn't save your scripts,
did you sure? I did. I have every single script
in plastic, and I have every single rehearsal script, and
I have every single table read script. I have literally
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hundreds of scripts. Hello, can you go into the garage
where all the gum is and find out if that
script is in there, because maybe there's something in the script. Dude,
those scripts are in storage in a vault guarded by
Doberman pinchers with razor wire. That's how you're gonna put
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your kid into college with that money? My kid's gonna
get a scholarship, a robotics scholarship. He's not gonna need
me to pay for it. I just you don't think
there's something in the script that was a scene that
you shot but then they had to edit it out
because did that ever happen? No? No, no, no. The
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planning of those scripts was very detailed and very specific,
and um, I think they must have been getting feedback
for the first six or seven episodes that maybe it
was I was taking over the show and they had
to pull the character. I mean, Suki was barely in it.
Suki was barely in it. Michelle wasn't in it. Wait
(03:36):
was he? Michelle was not in it? Was it? No? No, no, no, yeah,
it was early on. They were still figuring out, you know,
where the character was going and you know what was happening.
I mean, I don't know. No, I wasn't in it,
but Luke's diner was in it in the background, and
that's enough. Well, and the end of the episode, I know,
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I'm going out of order, but the end of the
episode was garly dramatic, like that was hardcore, Like when
she's like, you're going on the pill and Rory's like,
you know, I wouldn't sleep with him. Like the whole
thing was like, Oh, this is the worst thing they've
had yet. Yeah, that was a that was a real
I mean your kids out to I mean, she she
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fell asleep because Emily gave her some pills, right she
got Lauren felt I mean Laura I fell asleep because
she was on mild sedatives her back there was no
Suki gave it to her, right and and yeah, they
both fell asleep. And I don't know, you know what
really a couple of he I was thinking about this
last night. I said, teenage seventeen year olds. They're not drinking, Uh,
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they're they're in there falling in love or they're in love.
They're excited, they're excitable, they're full of energy. How do
they walk into Miss Patties and then all of a
sudden fall asleep because we know it was only like,
wasn't it was maybe ten thirty they bail on the
dance early. It might have been ten What the heck
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happened in Miss Patties that they just fell asleep? I
mean they didn't smoke a joint worn out from the
fight with Tristan and the stacking of the beans and
worn out. It's a Tacos suki bro. When I was seventeen,
I didn't conk once. I don't care how much stress
I had in my day. Seventeen year olds can stay
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until four in the morning without for three days in
her own and they're still like bouncing around. I mean, wow,
maybe there's a gas leak in Miss Patties. I think
it happened, because then we get the crazy scene where
she's running and why it happened. Dude, they're nodding out.
I don't know. I just wanted to point that out
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to the paying audience. It's like, what, well, okay, so
really it's a Emily lore life fight that then came
a lure like Rory catastrophe. That was just typical dumping
on your kid after you'd had a confrontation with your mother.
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You know, the big ugly monster that Emily can be. Um.
I mean, she's right, but she's wrong at the same time, right,
and Rory called her out on it. Rory kind of said,
this is not about me, this is about your mom's right.
I wasn't all together surprised when she started opening up
on on Rory right away. Because you know she supported her.
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I trust my kid in this, but you know, I
don't know. It kind of makes sense, uh, that mother
of her really triggers her. I mean really, and it
was they were getting along and yeah, so then we
were in for a big old boom. But you know,
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Rory kind of deserve that she was out all night.
She conned at ten thirty. What it's not So from
Laurelized point of view, she's probably thinking the same thing.
I'm thinking. You're a teenager, you don't conk what's going on.
You have too much energy to Oh, I just fell
asleep and miss Patty's I wouldn't have believed it either.
I think a mother would think my kid's been in
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a car accident. I think all that fear. Yeah, and
I and I know that Laurel I was thinking, um um,
I'm just fronting from my mother to defend my kid.
But I'm still pissed at my kid because I want
a damn explanation. But I'm not going to break in
front of my mother because I'm not going to give
her the satisfaction that she's right but wrong doing this
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inside my own home. Amazing performance by all three, completely
nailed it, nail just killed it. Just beautiful stuff. Um,
and I mean, what can you say? What can you say? Uh,
perfect ending, sitting down, covering herself, breaking down, just one
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of those days and just be a mom. You know
every mom goes through it. It's real life happening before
our eyes. It's three generations of real life happening before
our eyes. Um. Yeah, just wonderful stuff, wonderful, great episode.
It's the episode I started liking Dane and Tristan. I
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really thought Paris was certifiable. Good God, oh my god.
And with the cousin and the whole thing is god sad.
And then first when Tristan is buying the ticket and
he sort of teases, like you got a date, the
first time he's actually vulnerable with Rory. I mean that's
when he we see that he needs her, wants her,
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really likes her. It's not just a game now, it's
like he really needs there's a need there. Um, there
was a need before just to play the game, because
he's just testing her the way Laura I tested Max,
you know what I mean, and tests me and you
know that kind of thing distance distantance. So um yeah,
but I mean the takeaway from me, is is in
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that dynamic with those characters. The only thing that dated
that show for me was the behavior of Paris. I mean,
that kind of behavior was isn't gonna fly today? Isn't
amazing how that particular character in that situation didn't age well.
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I mean, like I said, like I said previously, I mean,
if she can't handle Um, if she can't handle Rory
and and and Tristan, if she's gonna trigger to that
degree where she's like physically and verbally violent, like bordering
on psychosis, how is she going to handle Harvard? I mean,
there's a thousand Tristan's there. There's there's a thousand Rorris there.
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I mean, she's gonna freak out over there in Harvard.
Harvard's ten thousand students, it's ten thousand students undergraduates, and
it's twenty graduate students. So you know, it's it's it's
not a huge campus. It's not a huge college, but
it's you know, there's enough people there. Paris is going
to be in trouble. She's not a type of person
you want to go to Harper No. I mean you
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know that that Paris is always sort of on the
edge of good God losing it. But I mean she
came on glued. I'm glued perfect. She came on glued
through that entire she started abusing the poor little fellow
sitting next to her who was getting the change. At
least she didn't recite Shakespeare and somebody's here here well,
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I mean, at least that's you know, that's sort of
harnessing the rage and turning it into something else, which
is you know, there's there's some art and that, there's
some there's that that's poetic. But I mean she's just
out and out, just like Lunacy throughout the whole episode.
You kind of do love the comic relief teenage noss
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of Louise and Madeline. They're always there to just be
teenage like and kind of honey and Madeleine always having
the last word and coming off like a nice person.
But what the hell she dealing with Louise, which makes
it even more funny. It's like, what are they doing together?
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It's like Madeline kind of playing along the the goofy sidekick,
and she doesn't she's not really into it, but she is,
and she says she's sorry, and you're a nice persons
all of a hot mess at that dance, that's for sure. Um,
And where were the teachers to break up that fight?
They were dancing, they were all day. I saw a
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lot of older people on the dance floor dancing. They
were the teachers, they had to be. Couldn't have been
the students, you know. But Dean, boy, he didn't waste
any time, doesn't He gets her on the dance floor.
Let's make out. Let's go. And Tristan wanted to make
out with that date too, even in his like longing
for Rory, he was like, Okay, I'll make out with
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my date too. Did she become more desirable because she
had Dean there? Who become more desirable? Oh? God? Far more?
Are you kidding? I mean, you bring a kid like
Dean into the prom and everybody's gonna be talking about
I was not the prom, but the dance, but everybody's
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gonna be talking about a gossip me gossiping about him?
And uh. I thought Dean did very well for himself
in this episode. He really was a stand up guy.
He became he was crowned the boyfriend and he he
deserves her heart at that At that point in time,
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I mean that's that's a very very chivalrous, romantic, Uh,
A manly thing to do is like get away from
my girlfriend. You know, it's wonderful. And you know, as
old fashioned as that seemed, it's you know, sometimes it's necessary,
and it was necessary in that situation. And she was
being harassed by Um Tristan. I mean it's just no
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matter how much you know I liked him, or he's
becoming vulnerable. I mean, he was a problem. I mean,
she was going to Chiltern, trying to learn, trying to
further her education and get into Harvard, and you've got
this jackass kid just just mocking her, just disrespecting her
every time he showed up. Um, even though his reasons
for it are probably understandable, You're right, he really he's
(13:33):
a jerk to her. He's a total jerk, and he's inappropriate.
And I yeah, I think I think both those characters
probably they're not aging well you know what I mean. Yeah,
there were there were a few parts where it was
a little bit like whoa this is? That's that's very
two thousand. It's very two thousand. Okay, everybody, we're gonna
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take a break when we come back. We're gonna talk
more about Tristan, the wonderful Tristan, the complex Tristan. We'll
be back. Yeah, sorrybody, We're we're gonna get into a
little bit of Chad Michael Murray Tristan uh memories here. Uh.
He was just on the Today Show and he was
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discussing how people react to his character in a very
surprising way to him and I think a surprising way
to us and everybody listening. People came up to him
and and said that they actually really loved his character.
He you know, he he was expecting. You know, usually
people are you know, are very critical of his character,
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you know, negative encounters with fans, but he says they've
they've been very positive, and he's very surprised by it.
So let's let's get into that a little bit, because
this is a big episode for Tristan. And uh, what
do you guys think about this? Do you love him?
Do you hate him? Do you love to hate him?
And also we sort he changed changes a little bit
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too right now. He's pretty awful. I wanted to love him,
and I did love him, and I wanted to give
him a hug when he was standing there when the
camera hit him and he was watching Dean and Rory
kiss on the dance floor. I felt bad for the guy.
I've been that guy. I've been in his shoes. Every
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guy has been in his shoes with a girl that
he wants. And I was no Tristan. I mean, I'm
not trying to compare myself to Tristan. Uh, but that hurts.
That's a gut shot. You're gutted, and boy I felt
bad for I wanted to give him a hug. I
started liking very similar to you in the episode before
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seeing Max and Laurela. It was sort of that same
gut wrenching Yes, Scott, I totally agree with you. Up
until this episode, I was very much like, oh, he
calls her rry, can he please stop? He's so snobby
and annoying and popular. And this episode, I I it
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took a second. I was like, oh, no, there's something
more there, Like I got a little soft spot for him.
It was the first time that I actually felt that way.
And and it was when Rory was standing in line
to buy the ticket for the dance and he came
up and he was his arrogant jackass self, But then
you realize that he really, he's getting a little more
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vulnerable with her, He's revealing a little more, and he's
asking her, you know, still indirectly, but asking her to
go to the dance with him, and it bothers him.
So I kind of started like, oh, okay, all right,
isn't it amazing what vulnerability does. It's just it's just
it's just gosh. Preston is exactly that guy, the guy
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that's popular and handsome but insecure and sort of deals
with it by being kind of a jerk. It made
me think hard, what's going on at his home? What's
happening with mommy and daddy? What's going on? I mean,
it's like, there's there's some bad stuff going on. His
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dad drinking is what's his dad treating him like crap?
Is dad having an affair? It's like, what's going are
their mental issues at home? What's happening that poor kid?
Agree with you? I felt the same way, And I
also thought he was the ultimate pulls your hair because
he likes you. That That was then I started becoming
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like feeling parental toward him, like wanting to reach out
and and take his hand and say, hey, bud, let's
let's let's go on a little walk, you know, and
tell me what's going on in your life. And you know,
I wanted to help him. I'm at that stage of
my life where I have a little bit of wisdom,
you know, a little bit, and and I really wanted
to help that kid. And I thought, boy, he's in trouble.
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He's in big trouble because he's looking like he's going
to fail in life, like if he's if he's this way,
he's this wound up. And I know Rory is extraordinary,
for for sure, she's extraordinary, but uh, and I have
the same thought about Paris too. If she's this wound
up about Rory at at Chilton, what the hell is
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she going to react like when she gets to Harvard
when there's a thousand Rory's and there's a thousand Tristan's.
I agree, it sort of makes sense why Chad Michael
Murray recently said that people come up and say I
love Tristan because they must understand what's really going on.
But first you're like, he's such an ass. But as
an actor, right, the sensitivity of Chad and what he
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did in that moment and the way he looked at
her and the way he felt it completely transformed my
opinion of him. It made me see that's called layering
a character character and that's again right, writing, great acting.
These kids are really good actors. Jesus. These kids are
so young and they're so good at what they do.
I think I think he was eighteen at the time too.
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They're just kids. It's not surprising that this show got
him the lead on One Tree Hill. It, Yeah, it's
not surprising at all. I mean, he's showing a real
depth of uh. I mean, just wow. His soul was
ruined watching her dance with and kissing ruined. He was
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just ruined. And the way he kind of went limp
a little bit and he you know, he confronted Dean
and you know, hey, we haven't met, and then and
then he escalated. But even the way he did that,
and that's a tough scene for for Chad to play
because he's got to come off tough, but he also
has to, you know, go limp a little bit in
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the face of an obviously stronger uh and a more
righteous Dean in the situation, and it's like, how does
he play it? So at a certain point in that scene,
the confrontation scene with Dean. With Dean is I think
he realized and he made his choice as an actor.
He realized that he was in the wrong, that he
was the weaker person, and that Dan Dean made him
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realize that, and he actually felt shame. I felt the
same way physically, he sort of really Yeah, he kind
of gave up so beautifully. Yes, it was. It was.
It's so difficult to do, and he did it beautifully.
He did it beautifully. He kind of manned up. But
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then he, you know, he knew he was in the wrong,
and I think he pulled back because he realized that,
especially when he went in for the last time and
and and Dean just said before they started pushing each other, Um,
he just kind of you could see in his eyes
a light go out a little bit like this, he
wasn't going to get his way. And I think it
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was almost he was almost doing it because he didn't
want to get his way. I think he did it
because he wanted Dean to beat him up. I think
he did it because he thought he deserved to get
beaten up. Yeah. I don't think any of what you're
saying is wrong. I think you're kind of right. I
can't decide if he's spoiled or what the deal is,
but yeah, I think he's just super sad on the inside.
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I think he's he's very wealthy, he's very privileged. He's
so handsome. Yeah, great looking kid, and it's got everything
going for him. But boy, what a facade because there's
a hurt, wounded soul behind that thing, and it's so
interesting to see it. It's really interesting for him to
peel that layer back and to show us that he's not. Yeah,
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I'm a I'm a jackass and I know I'm a jackass,
and I don't like it, so please beat me up,
because why else would you? Why else would you challenge
somebody who's, like, you know, three inches taller than you are.
It's interesting when we read that Chad gets that reaction.
We did like an informal poll, Danielle where they're like,
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what happened? It was pretty split forty eight in favor
of Tristan and don't like him. So I think we
get the opinions from people who like him and hate him.
It's like, I I sort of loved it, hate him. Yes,
the character allows you to really, you know, vent on
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somebody like that, because we've all had people like that
in our lives, right, um um. But I don't know,
I'm I like him, I want to get to know
him now. I'm interested in like finding out what's going
on with him. Yeah, you really kind of love Tristan
and Dean in this episode. I mean, I still think
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Tristan's he's a eighteen he's a kid, he's seventeen, you know.
I mean, come on, those kids are They're so filled
with confidence, you know, and you know, nothing really bad
has happened to them yet. Nobody's ever said no to
them yet. They just haven't been out in the world.
But I think in Tristan's background, something's going wrong and
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it's and it's and it's going it's going wrong, like
right now as it's happening, and he's he's freaked out
by it. You know, maybe the parents split up, Maybe
the parents are fighting a lot or splitting up, or
who the heck knows. Yeah, And I think I think
he's probably just a very sensitive, very intelligent boy who
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was probably a very sweet boy, and he's getting abused.
Somebody's abusing him. Maybe his father is verbally abusing him
or being too rough. With him or cutting him down?
You know, who knows? Who the hell knows? But it's
like I want to know. I want to know what
it is. What's his damage? Boy, let's get him on.
(23:55):
I want to I wanna because he has more insight
and he, you know, made these choice, maybe had some
conversations with Amy about background that's not in the show.
So it would be interesting to find pretty sweet guy.
He's a sweet guy in their life, as you know. Yeah,
he's a good dude. Okay, Danielle, tell us how we're
going to solve this conundrum. So we have one listener
(24:16):
that is calling it right now, Easton, if you want
to let her in from the waiting room. Her name
is Amelia. Hates him, she likes him. Hello, Amelia, Hi,
how you doing? Goodness? My goodness? Right pack at you?
How are you doing? Let me? Where are you calling
(24:36):
in from? Look at the sweatshirt? Got the Luke sweatshirt on?
There you go representing alright? Where you Where are you from? Amelia?
Joshua Tree, California? Oh my god, you're out in the
desertn't really working for my my temperature outside? No? No, no,
what's it out there? Something crazy? Yeah? The Desert. Thank
(24:59):
God for free on. So you have either a question
or a comment for us? Oh well, I mean, yeah,
you guys um in your stories. So he talked about
Tristan um if people liked him or didn't like him,
And I know a lot of people probably don't like him,
but I mean I don't like him, like I want
to hang out with Tristan. But I think as a
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character he's really dynamic. There's a lot there and I
love to unpack that stuff. As a viewer, I like
that he's kind of puts up a facade. I mean
he's a teenager, so you remember that. I mean I
started watching the show when I was ten, so I
didn't pick up any of this then. But um, you
know he's a teenager. He's figuring it out. And I
think that he just wants validation from girls at school,
(25:45):
boys school, his parents, and he gets it obviously in
the wrong ways. So he puts up this like not
a very nice guy saw it. So he's kind of misunderstood.
But there's moments where you could see he has like
a heart and a soul. They're fleeting, but they happen, Um,
And I just think he's really misunders that he does
it to himself. But he's a teenager, so you know,
she engages with him. You know, she doesn't just walk
(26:08):
away or ignore him. There's some sort of push pool
there because she always sort of ping pongs with him,
meaning Rory. Yeah, I mean, and he's a cutie pie.
I mean it's Chad Michael Murray. So I'm not complaining.
If I was in high school with Chad Michael Murray,
I'd probably be like, all right, So I mean, well,
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you know, um, we were discussing this and this episode
is specifically, um Rory's dance when she goes to children
dance and they getting Dean and and Tristan get into there,
you know, almost fisticuffs. Um. You know, I started liking
I started liking Tristan because just for the reasons that
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you just stated, because there's something there. There's maybe something
going wrong in his home life and he doesn't know
how to handle it, and he's internalizing it. It's being
out in all these ways and he's probably he's you know,
he's mimicking both his parents, right, So he's being imprinted
in a very negative way somehow over a period of time,
and he's you know he's coming off like this, this
(27:12):
giant jerk, and I'm sure I see that from his
behavior in this episode that he is not a giant jerk.
I don't think he. I think there's something very sweet
and soulful there and he's lost it. He's lost himself
and he needs to get himself back, which is why
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I think and obviously he thinks Rory can help him. Yeah,
I completely agree. I feel like and even if he's
like getting that negative imprint from his parents, maybe even
they're not giving him enough attention, so he's like, how
can I get attention, I'll act out, um, And yeah,
I just think there's not a lot of self love there.
There's not, like feel like, there's a lot of self
(27:53):
doubt within himself, and he acts out negatively and he
sees something good in Rory, which I mean he doesn't.
I mean, she's just she's just a breath of fresh
air and completely unaffected and beautiful and breezy and smart,
and it's probably everything he's been looking for and hasn't
been able to find. I mean, it's like it's either
it's either Louise or or it's hurts Rory, which line
(28:15):
you're gonna stand in right, I mean Louise right right. Yeah,
she's still nice to him. She like finds the good
in him, and you think he sees that and picks
up on that. So it's like, Okay, even though I
called you marry and I was that typical like I
don't know, school grade school, like I'm going to be
mean to you because I like you attitude. She's looked
past that and it's just shown him kindness. And I
(28:39):
mean anyone that's I feel like like him is going
to look at that and be like, hey, wait a minute,
I like you. She's she's look, she's a little she's
a little rough with him. I mean she she gives
him his do uh when they're standing in line, when
she's buying the tickets. I mean she's really kind of
going after him a little bit. I mean she's she's
(29:00):
returning service beautifully. Yeah, I love it, especially when she
yells at him after she hits the deer. I mean
I appreciate that. So yeah, I just think there's a
quality about Tristan that I'm intrigued by. Now. I'm fascinated.
I want to I want to get to know him
a little better. And I hope. And I haven't seen
the episodes obviously, I've just I've stopped at Rory's dance,
(29:23):
but I'm I'm intrigued to see how he develops. And
I'm starting to like Dean too. But I know I've
been listening and I'm like, no, no, but I didn't
like the Boogie night thing and hey, now it's my
turn and you know this kissing and the thing and
and the Dozies marketing. I know I didn't like all
that stuff, but you know it's like now this fresh
(29:46):
episode and he's, uh, he's he's being a good boyfriend
and it's kind of cool because she's, you know, hey,
so what do we you my boyfriend? And it's like,
I don't know, you want me to be? It is,
it's very it is very sweet and he's a sweet kid.
He's showing that side of himself. Um, so, Amelia, so
(30:09):
thank you for coming on. It was a very interesting discussion.
Oh well, thank you. We really appreciate the input. Um,
and good luck with your photography out there in Joshua
Tree and thank you and thank you. This is crazy.
You're Luke, I mean your Scott, but you're Luke. And
I've been watching you since I was ten and your
show shaped me and I just this is amazing, So
(30:32):
thank you so much, wonderful. We've had a lot of
fun and uh and nice talking to you. Yeah you too,
thank you. All right, sweetheart, I think we've got somebody
in the waiting room, uh for a fan question, and
let's let's get question. We need a high so let's
(30:55):
let's jump into your question. You emailed a question and
we're curious. Go ahead and give us your question. Okay.
So um, in season one, episode nine, where Rory goes
to the dance, UM, Emily sitting on the couch with
Flora Lae and she's trying, um, some smashed bananas on toast,
(31:15):
and when Emily gets up from the couch, there's a
piece of neon green tape those under the chair where
she's been sitting. And then in season six, episode thirteen,
Friday Night is all Right for Fights, Suki and Loria
la are in an outdoor flower market and they have
(31:36):
the same piece of neon green tape that's on their jackets,
and UM, I'm assuming that it's like a place marker
for where they stand or the jackets that they were
supposed to use for the scene and then it maybe
just didn't get removed. But UM, I'm wondering if you
could maybe speak to that a little bit more on um,
what is like to be an actor and have such
(31:57):
intense dialogue and um and be having to move at
a certain place, being a certain position, um, especially being
like um for your character being in the diner being um,
cooking or cleaning or busting a table at the same
time while you're while you're acting. So, yes, you're you're
(32:18):
right about the tape. It every actor gets a color designation.
I guess the green tape. I guess that was assigned
to Uh, Kelly, is that what you're saying? You saw
it first with with Emily Gilmour, Yes, since season one? Yes,
(32:39):
so yeah, so so Emily. I guess was was green
because when the crew comes in, when we come in
for a full crew rehearsal uh, and we've figured out
sort of our movements and are it's called blocking, and
where we're gonna go on certain lines and all the
you know, the the balletic, the core the choreography of
(32:59):
the scene where everybody's moving. Um. Uh. The crew he's
the crew guy has a many different colored tapes uh
in a holster and he pulls out that tape because okay,
so Luke moves over here, so I mean I forget
I I forget which color I was. It was probably
red or something like that, and he said, or blue
(33:21):
or something. He put a blue tape down there so
that you I would know where my first mark was.
And then they do the same thing for all the actors.
So there's lots of pieces of different colored tape all
over the floor and that's that's the roadmap for all
of the actors to see. And you can't look at it,
but you know it's there, So so that's your that's
(33:43):
kind of like your UM, your navigation system that we
used to make sure we knew we were standing on
the right mark because that's where they set the lighting.
So if if if you're standing on your mark, then
the lighting is gonna hit you right and you know
the director is gonna be happy, and if you miss
your mark, the lighting is going to be off, and
then everybody else's lighting is going to be off because
(34:04):
you're gonna pull their looks over in the wrong direction.
And then they yell cut and said you gotta hit
your mark. We gotta do it again. So and as
far as how to um to do all the the
you know, the physical stuff and the and the serving
of the food and you know that's um. You know,
that's something you learn in acting school. Uh. And you
(34:27):
just sort of keep gradually adding on more tasks to
do and in scenes and scene work that you're doing
in class. Uh. And then when you do plays you
have to do that as well. There's a lot of
props to deal with, and there's a whole course of
study on how to deal with props and how to
handle props and do you have to do it the
same for every take? Yes, you do. Yeah, that's called matching.
(34:50):
You have to match. So if George comes up to you, say, Scott,
that didn't match, I said, oh, what did I do?
I said, you put the plate down on the word
after you know the and you put it. Yeah. So
if you miss it even by that much, so it's exacting.
So your rehearsal process nails down all of the movement
(35:10):
and the and the props and uh um and the
lighting scheme and the choreography. And if you miss any
anything but even buying a very in your brain, you
have to go like cut plate toast, cut plate toast,
and then you're also doing all those crazy lines. You're
like blah blah blah, cut plate toast. Whoa, that sounds
(35:32):
kind of loud. You are truly exhausted at the end
of the day because you're just your brain is is
is just you know, trying to absorb all this stuff
all day and you know, sending all those signals out
to every part of your body. And uh and plus
you know there's a there's an emotional life there too
(35:54):
that has to be um, um, oh my god, right come,
plate toast line, line, line right right right. So it's
but it's not anything. The more you do it, the
better you get at it, and the more comfortable you
feel with it. And I got to the point on
Gilmore where I I preferred using a lot of props
and being very proppery and very active with the props
(36:16):
because it's just, you know, it was easier for me
to attach what line was I'm going to pick the
couple on or drop the plate or pick up the
plate and the whole thing and it's sort of I
don't know, it just made it easier to do a scene. Um.
Whereas when you're out there in the desert and it's
just the two of you're talking. That's tough because I
remember that kitchen scene in the in the reboot, where
I was passionately pleading with Laurel La not to leave
(36:39):
me when um, and it was just the two of us,
there were no props to deal with. There was nothing,
And that's when you're truly naked emotionally, and those are
more difficult to pull off, um because you can't really
you know, you can't hide behind the props anymore. Um. So, anyway,
(37:00):
I hope that answers your question. Yeah, that's very interesting.
Thank you so much, Thank you, Thank you Winita for
coming on and uh and uh and keep watching, thanks listening.
Stay safe, all right, take care. You know, let's have
a little fun. Let's let's go ahead and re enact this.
We had so much fun doing it last week. Let's
(37:20):
let's reenact the scene where uh, you know, Rory goes
into Dosie's Market to ask Dean to the dance and
and Keiko is breathlessly, you know, staring through the glass
to see what happens. So she she even says to Royce, says,
you know, annuncate your words, I read lips. So so
we're gonna we're gonna re enact this with uh with
(37:43):
another lovely fan. Who who do we have? Is that Heather?
How are you doing? You're wearing the hat or is
that just your natural look? Like it is rocking the look?
It's out of respect of it. At this, Look at this, Heather,
That's awesome. I gotta put my glasses on to check
(38:05):
this out. This is look at you. That's a that's
a Luke suit. It is number one top drawer. Welcome
to the show. Thank you so much. I'm so excited
to be here. How did it hat? What are you
calling in from? I live in Seattle, Seattle, all the
(38:26):
way from Seattle. Yeah, not too far from you. Guys though,
did you work on the scene? Because I didn't? I did? Um,
I hope I do it justice. Well, I know I'm
gonna suck. I'm not going to be a good Dean.
I'm playing Dean because I'm not in this episode. I know.
I well, that's what when I heard it was this one,
(38:47):
I thought, not even in this one. Luke's not even
make sense. We'll create our own scene. I know it's
going to be great. The scene that that that hit
the cutting room floor never made it on the episode aired.
All right, so now I'm by Now I have to
I have to be Dean. Okay, so this will be
the biggest acting challenge of my life. I know how
(39:08):
you feel about Dean too, so he love Jared. But
but you know what, Dean he I like him in
this episode. I liked what happened. He's very good in
this episode. Yeah, you know, it's like I might be
kicking just to the curb pretty soon. I might be
doing that. I might do that because I like Dean
in this I like Dean in this episode. She wants
(39:29):
to make it right too. You know, at the end
of the episode, he really tries. He wants to go
with Rory back to talk to her mom. I mean,
he does the right thing. He does the right thing.
He figured out how to get out of his car
and stop honking. I like. I like that. He's an
intelligent young man. You don't run out when a boy
honks for you. Tell you what man Jess might be.
(39:54):
You know, I know he's blood, I know he's family.
But I like the Dean going after the tris didn't
it was It was good. Yeah, and knock out the
Mary Boy. You know, I'm a recent Team Jess convert.
Actually I was a team Okay, don't don't be too upset.
I know somebody else is also a Team Logan hardcore, Yes,
(40:16):
Amy is. I mean, I was Team Logan for so long.
I loved how they challenged each other, and I love
how they changed one another. I love how he came
full circle at the end. But you know what, after
the revival, I changed my mind because I was so
disappointed in the relationship. There a sort of relationship then,
and I saw how Jess really helped Rory, and she
(40:39):
had that great idea for the book, and even at
the end when he looked at her through the window,
I was like, that's that's the one. So I'm now
a Team Jess. I never thought i'd say it, but
years later, I'm a convert. I'm still I'm still Team Jett,
Team Jess. But I gotta tell you, the opportunity to
get into the skin of Dean in an acting scene
(41:02):
might help me get that that five percent I need
to get to get the Team Dean. Because I'm I'm
right there, I'm right on the fence. I liked what
I saw in this episode from that young boy. I
like this scene. He's really I mean, what a great guy.
He restrained himself, he didn't swing and punch. He just said,
(41:22):
I'm not going to fight you, because what does I
kill you? And he didn't mean kill in the sense
that he'd kill him. He meant kill when that he
would defeat him badly. So yes, yes, there would be
damage to the Tristan Uppers and Lowers that Dennis would
be very the Orthodonis between. I like this episode anyway,
(41:47):
So you ready to act? Have you been working on it?
I don't know. I made my husband run through it
with me a bunch of times. I don't know how
to play Dean, and now I have to be eighteen,
and that's you know, I'm I'm a little four years
past eighteen. But let's see what I can do. I
was trying to put myself back in. What is it
like when you're a teenager and you're this is so
(42:08):
vulnerable to ask somebody to a dance, you know. I
was trying to put myself back there, because that's that's hard.
It was hard what I think we both need to
do since we're since we're are both of our voices
is probably bottomed out since we were teenagers. We need
to be at a higher pitch. We need to be high. Yeah,
we can't be so low in our throat. We can't be.
(42:28):
So let's try that. So maybe we can be. We
will try it. Not not necessarily squeaky, but sometimes Rory
does come off squeaky. She can be sometimes. And for you, Heather,
to achieve that level of cuteness and vulnerability in your voice,
my god, let's see what happens. I don't know. Now
(42:49):
you're setting me up. I'll try it, alright, alright, uh, alright,
everybody settle Heather, you're good ready? Good? Yes? Yes, yes, yes?
And action? Hey oh hey you're busy. Yeah no, I
(43:11):
just had to put these green beans chip ands on
the shelves. You want to help? Yeah, sure, I love
stucking beans. Okay, follow me. So do you work on Saturdays?
I forget, Well, it depends. Sometimes I come in if
I don't have any plans. So why no reason? This
is so bad? I can't do Dean to save my life,
(43:36):
killing going, keep going, I'll try to find another Dean voice.
Go ahead, See there's this thing at my school on Saturday.
Well it's not really at my school, but it's it's
kind of given by my school. What is it? Well,
it's this kind of thing where you go and they
play music and you're supposed to get all dressed up
and do some kind of dance and there's chicken chicken.
(43:57):
I don't know if there's chicken, but these kinds of things,
they often serve chicken because it's probably cheaper and people
eat it. So the logical the chicken twists really is
not bad. I'm lost, and it's not like I'm dying
to go or anything, but it is a new school
and being part of social activity that's really important in Chilton.
So are you asking me to go to a dance
(44:21):
with you? No? Yes, I mean if you wanted to go,
I would go to. Well that'd probably good since it's
your school, right, So do you want to go? Honestly? Yeah,
I've actually never gone to a dance before because they're lame.
It's just not the way I ever wanted to spend
(44:41):
my timing. I mean, I'm I'm not a big joiner. Okay,
fair enough? More beans? Please? You want to go, don't you? No?
I don't. I don't have any desire to go at all.
I was just thinking out loud, that's all. Huh. So
what would I have to wear? What to this dance? What?
(45:05):
What would I have to wear? Anything you want? No? Really?
Whatever you're comfortable. Some sort of pants would be good.
It's coding, TI, man, But you probably get away with
the coating. No time I have to take. You have
to take a longer pause. Yeah, give me that line again.
(45:28):
But you could probably get away with the coat and
no tie. H okay, really, thank you? That was excellent.
I had one more line, the most important line of
(45:48):
the whole thing. Alright, cut, we're gonna have to do
it again. Maybe you just give that last line. I
can give the one before welcome. There you go, done,
We're good. There you good? So we can we can
splice that in. Actually, I felt the scene gained real
life when Amy jumped in at the end. I like that.
(46:10):
I thought Heather was so much better than Danielle and Riley.
It was amazing. I thought Heather was fantastic. Good thank
you costuming too, since she got in character even though
she wasn't portraying that character. Rory as Luke and I
had to meet Luke as Dean that's a game of twister,
(46:32):
mental twister right there. For the thing that's that's really like,
what's they're not? How are they going to colate that?
It's it's But you did a great job. You were
really good, Scott. I'm really happy you changed your voice
because that Dean voice and something else. I was struggling.
I just didn't know what I thought. It was actually
(46:57):
my eyes for a minute, I closed my eyes for
a minute, and I really felt it was deep. I
was inhabited. Dean was inhabiting me. It was. It was
weird spiritual experience, you know, before you go. Do you
have any questions or tips for us as we try
to improve this? Uh? I am all in podcast. I'm
just so excited doing this. This show is meant so
much to me. So you guys being here each week,
(47:18):
I mean it's taking me through everything, everything in your life.
There's something about in Gilmore's with it, you know, heartbreak,
going to college, graduating, even when my dad had a
heart attack. I thought Gilmore's has that, you know. Um
So I I love it. Um. I love that you're
breaking down this, you know, the episodes and any behind
the scenes stuff is always great. I do have a question.
(47:41):
I always said I would ask if I ever got
the opportunity. It's skipping way ahead, but if anybody's listening,
I kind of figured that they've already kind of watched it. Anyway.
So Orla comes to Luke at the diner and says,
we gotta get moving with the marriage thing. Let's elope
April needs to figure out how she's going to fit
into lives, not the other way around. Let's go. Luke says,
(48:02):
I can't jump, you know, it's too fast. Laura Lai says, okay,
I'm out. She leaves, and she goes and she sleeps
with Christopher, and then Luke cons and he's all packed up,
he's got all his stuff, he's got the camping gear,
he's ready to go, and he says, let's do it.
And she says, I slept with Christopher and he leaves.
And I always wondered if she hadn't slept with Christopher,
(48:24):
do you think that they would have stayed together, like
what would have happened after that? Well? Yeah, I don't
remember any of that, but I do. I think, of course,
logic would dictate that the chances would be much better
than there's this thing that funny, quirky thing about people
(48:45):
in relationships. When you sleep with someone else, it somehow
affects adversely the relationship that you're in. Isn't that wild?
I don't blame Luke for leaving and he even goes
and he goes straight to Christopher's apartment and punch boom
right in the kisser right there. It's because it's a fan.
(49:06):
You don't want Lorela to sleep with Christopher at that point,
and so it's really satisfying. But that's the that's the
craft of you know, the craft of writing will do
the thing to the fans that they least want in
order to get them to lean forward. Because now you
(49:29):
feel like you're you're involved in it. I mean, they're
really messing with you now, right, So it's uh, you know,
that's that's what good writers do. They give you what
you want sometimes, but they give you a lot of
what you don't want, so or what you think you
don't want anyway. Um, yeah, that's very What season are
(49:51):
you even talking about here? What season is? So it's
season seven? Is to come back in about three years?
You would have me back in that time. I would
be happy to come back and ask again, we can
all chat, but I just always had it on my
mind because I mean, I'm so glad they ended up together.
(50:12):
Obviously we know Luke and Laurelar end game, we know that,
but I always just had that thought, why why at
the end there did they you know? Was there that?
So it's just heartbreaking. It's a heartbreaking breakup right there.
The life of a fan, right it is. Even as
(50:34):
many times as I watched it, it's still I still
can't get over it. It's tough, right Yeah, Yeah, but
you were fantastic. That was an amazing reading. Thank you,
Thank you so much. Thank you for having just a
delight and an honor. Um. And yeah, when we get
(50:55):
to that episode, when we get to that episode season seven,
which will be in a couple of years, knock on wood,
then we should have you back. Yeah, please do, because
I would just I would love nothing more than to
discuss that bazing job. Heather, Thank you so much, No,
thank you guys, thanks so much, Um, and thanks for
(51:15):
doing the podcast. So, I mean, it means so much
to so many people, it really does, so I appreciate it,
as they'll speak for all the fans that we appreciate
it and it's for you guys, and much appreciate it. Okay,
all right, have a good day, take care talk. So
wasn't she great? I love it when the fans call
(51:35):
in and it's so much fun. They're so great. Then
they're they're dressing up, they're wearing their paraffin, they're wearing
their gear. You know they're gearing up. Anyway, gear time
for a comedy bit where we're all going to try
bananazon toast. I didn't. I couldn't mash mine. I couldn't
(51:56):
deal with it. I feel like it's going to be
grosser if I mash it. It's definitely gonna be grosser
if you match more gross It's but I have banana circles,
I have pieces of banana. I couldn't mash it. It
looks so heinous. It was just like, it doesn't look
like mashed bananas. That look like something else. Are you
(52:17):
trying it? Well? In theory, a piece of toast and
a banana would be like a fine breakfast. It's that
it was mashed like baby food. Yeah, it was. It
was just awful to say, mine is more like the
way you would want your avocado toast, right right, right?
I can see. I have my banana slice. Okay, ready
(52:38):
on three on three, Ready on three one two? Not
that bad? Welcomes terrible. Oh it's not good. Actually, now
(53:00):
it's a very odd taste. Oh god, that's awful. It
was an after like at first it was okay. Yeah,
at first it's okay, and then you start chewing and
it's like, don't eat more of it? What are you doing?
I got banana is awesome. I'm just eating the toast.
I'm not going to waste a perfectly good piece of toast.
I knew that would be bad just looking at it.
(53:22):
Looks bad, right, everybody that the bananas and toast is,
in a word, heinous. It is. It is truly, truly
an awful combination. And just the fact that Emily force
fed that to a young Laurel I uh says, I
(53:44):
think a lot about Emily so because we just we
just tried, we we tried to force feed ourselves. We
couldn't even do it. I spit it out. It's over
there right now, get it. I'm gonna get it out
of the room. On break. I'm like removing this from
the room. I don't even want to look at it,
all right, we'll be back after these words. Yeah, okay, everybody,
(54:07):
We're back. I'm Scott Patterson and this is the I
M all In podcast you're listening to on iHeart Radio.
It is time for one of our favorite segments, pop
Culture Ladies and gentlemen. Riley take it away. I'm Riley
and this is your pop culture first. We have Laura
l You know, mom, you have a Barbara stand wicked voice. So,
(54:30):
Barbara Stanwick was an American actress, model, and dancer active
from to Barbara became a zeke Field Follies dancer at fifteen.
The Follies were classy, spectacular show featuring the great talents
of the day. She was actually the highest paid woman
in America in ur raking four thousand dollars that year.
(54:52):
A fun fact. One more fun fact. Last night I
was watching Back to the Future at number one, and
when Marty McFly goes back to the fifties, Barbara Stanwick
is starring in the movie with Ronald Reagan at the
movie theater in Hill Valley, Boom. I think she was
(55:12):
on a show called A Big Valley. She was on
TV two. She she was a staple in our household.
And when I was growing up. Barbara stand was a
big story. You love some old timey references on Gilmore Girls.
Keep them coming, Laura I says, become a crazy Oscar
Levant kind of celebrity, go on talk shows. Heckel Regis so.
Oscar Levant was an American concert pianist, composer, and music conductor.
(55:35):
From nineteen sixty. Oscar dropped out of high school to
pursue music. While he was considered a multi faceted genius,
he also had been known as a notorious hypochondriac and
a nice little regius pop culture mentioned in that same sentence,
who was the Regius and Kathy Lee? Then Regis and Kelly,
(55:56):
which is now Kelly and Ryan Seacrest, Rory says to Tristan, really,
does Susan Faluti know about this? So? Susan Fluti was
an American feminist, journalist and author from the nineteen eighties
to now. Susan's a strange father survived the Holoclast. She
also has dual citizenship between the US and Hungary. Her
(56:17):
most recent book is about fluid and binaries. Rory says,
I hear Squeaky from is Up for Pearl Soon. Squeaky
was an American criminal who was a member of the
Manson family cult led by Charles Manson. Actually, on September
five and Sacramento, Squeaky attempted to assassinate President Gerald Ford
by aiming a firearm at the president, which was later
(56:38):
determined not to be loaded. And Squeaky's up for Pearl soon,
Laura Lee, While Mom, look at you, you think Ann
Taylor was having a sailor or something. So everyone knows
Ann Taylor as a woman's clothing store, But did you
know that Ann Taylor is not actually a real person.
The retail chain is named after a best selling shirt
dress style in the night ten seventies, and taylor shopping
(57:01):
bag was inducted in the Smithsonian's Permanent collection. And Taylor
is not a real person. That expands a lot, clears
a lot of stuff up for me, Laura Lie, Hey Dean,
Meet my mother. Emily Post. Emily Post is an American author, novelist,
and socialite. Emily is famous for writing about etiquette, and
(57:23):
her book is called Emily Post Etiquette. The book was ironically,
at one point the second most stolen book from libraries,
the first being The Bible Etiquette Two Bits of Etiquette,
advice from Emily. So once they read the book, they
returned the book because that's etiquette, and they steal the Bible.
One of the piece of etiquette is thank your host
twice and when in doubt, where the planar dress. It
(57:43):
is always far better to be underdressed than overdressed. Thank
you Scott, because you're our host. Thank you Scott. Thanks
for dressing and you're definitely underdressed. Thank you very much,
Laura Lie, I mean it. You could have gotten Fred
McMurray too, off, Dad, you'd really wanted to. Fred has
(58:06):
appeared in more than a hundred films, many of them Western.
Some of his other films include My Shaggy Dog and
My Three Sons, My Three Sons, Huge hit when I
was growing up, Huge hit that theme song. Wow. He
was the first person ever named a Disney Legend, and
(58:27):
at one point he was the fourth highest paid actor
in America. Next ones for Amy Rory. I'll be standing
in the back listening tore Oh. I know so many
fun facts about degrees bring him or would you need
me to do them? How do you know so many?
Because I was there with nine degrees from the very beginning.
So here's a little fun fact that Nick Lasha just
(58:50):
revealed in that their song The Hardest Thing. Nick hated
the line about Dr Shivago and then that song became
one of their biggest hits. Riley, what else you got?
Rory says, have you seen The Outsiders? Just call me
pony boy. So The Outsiders was actually originally a book,
(59:11):
but the book was created into a film packed with
a cast full of Hollywood's upcomers such as Matt Dylan,
Rob Low, Patrick Swayze, and Tom Cruise just to name
a few. I think Ralph Macchio was in there, Diane Lane.
That was like packed with stars, packed with stars. So
the book was written by S. E. Hinton was Susan
Elise Hinton, a fifteen year old school student in Tulsa
(59:34):
who wrote The Outsiders. Editors suggested she go by s
E so readers could and for a male author was responsible. Unbelievable. Okay,
I think it's time to uh go to our produce
one of our producers, Danielle, to get an update on
the clown pillow. Danielle take it away. So the clown
(59:56):
pillow was really sneaky this episode. You really had to
it watch, like really watched to find it, um I
had Did anybody notice it? Nope? No, no, okay, So
the clown pillow when um Suki comes over with the
burritos and lor La is talking to um her mom
(01:00:17):
like on the phone, talking to Emily on the phone. Um,
it is propped up next to her. But it's just
a side view of it, but you can it's very
clown pillow. Ask. You can see like the side profile
of the clown and it's right there waiting for everyone
to look at it. You have clown pillow eyes, Daniel,
I really do. I have one other little interesting tidbit
(01:00:40):
that you may or may not have spotted, but I
found this with my internet research. During Tristan and Dean's confrontation,
the actor who played Caesar is in the background. Yes,
maybe we can do a zoom in so people can
see it on our social media. But they think maybe
(01:01:00):
he was just a background actor playing a different character.
Unless Caesar moonlights at high school dances. Uh. You know,
the more days that he works, the more money he makes.
So probably he was in the club and they just
they threw him another episode. Now it's time for favorite lines.
(01:01:21):
Who's going to start us off? Riley go ahead. So
I love when Emily says this is not a drive through,
she is not fried chicken. When Dean hanks to come
get her, that was my Daniel. You're gonna have to
come up with another one. It's okay, I have to
just in case this happens. So my second one is
(01:01:42):
when Laura Lee goes shield the talk. I love that.
Oh my god, they're holding coconuts and leering. It's funny
you treated my lovely gift for a semi pornographic leering
monkey lamp. How could you bacca rock crystals for a
(01:02:02):
monkey lamp? Um? I think my favorite line was when
Emily's going back and forth on the phone with Laura
Lae about Lauraa making Rory's dress, and Emily said something like,
please don't use the curtains. That's actually a poster reference.
(01:02:24):
We sort of missed because it was the sound of
real reference. We should have had that so insulting. It's like,
you have no you're you're my daughter, but you have
no taste, and I fear you will use the curtains
to make a dress. I have to add in one
more line. I'm sorry, I this one was just so good.
Um when Tristan and Dean were fighting and Dan goes,
(01:02:47):
you will not go near her ever again. So good. Yeah,
Dean up in his game. That's Rory's dance. Everybody, what's
the episode next week that we all need to watch?
Forgiveness and stuff? Forgiveness and stuff. Really that sounds like
a big episode. You're in it. I'll cover my eyes.
(01:03:14):
I'm actually liking some of this stuff. I'm liking some
of this stuff. I do. Who cares thought about me? Listen? Uh,
it's a very special birthday for a dear friend of mine,
my little vent Amelia, and I'm going to sing him
a little birthday song. Happy birthday to you, Happy birthday
(01:03:39):
to you, Happy birthday to my low, Happy birthday to you,
to you to you have your birthday, buddy. That was
(01:04:11):
a great one. Talk to you soon, hey, everybody, and
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