May 5, 2021 • 18 mins
Paris debunks the myth behind an infamous photo seen around the world. More than a decade later, Paris finally reveals the shirt was never actually worn and what slogan the tank top really said. In a raw moment, Paris discusses how a photoshop moment circulated across the internet made her feel back then.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Rank. This is Paris. Hey guys, So today we're gonna
be talking about the infamous Stopping Poor shirt. So basically
I did a TikTok about it. My friend Tiffany from
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TikTok was over here and we were just filming some
content and I don't know how it came up. We're
just talking about like my iconic outfits, and she said, oh,
do you still have the Stopping Poor shirt? I was like,
what I told her the story. I was like, I
never wore that shirt. That's actually a photoshop picture. And
she said, well, then you have to do like a
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video about it on TikTok explaining that. And that's how
it came about, because this is something I never really
talked about because I assumed some people thought it was
not real since there was the real shirt online. Um So, anyway,
the backstory is that my sister Nikki, she actually designed
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the tank top was from her chick line and it
had the slogan stopping Desperate. So we had the fashion show.
It was amazing, so much fun and yeah, just an
innocent shirt, stopping desperate, something funny that we would always say.
And then one day I got a picture sent to
me and they're like, I can't believe that you wore
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a shirt saying stopping poor. And I was like, what,
I would never wear something like that. And I looked
at the picture and then I was like, oh my god,
like somebody actually photoshop this. And then I was like,
who would do this? And I was assuming that it was,
you know, a paparazzi agency or someone, um, because this
(01:46):
was before social media, so it was before people were
making memes or anything like that. Um, this was like
the first of its kind that's literally went on to
be so many different memes, Like it's even been changed,
like stopping poors become so many other things people say
like stopping I don't know, there's a lot of them online,
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um from that shirt. So when I saw that, it
was just something that really bothered me. And you know,
just looking back at that time, I know that some
people took it as lighthearted and saw it as a joke.
But I definitely had a moment of insecurity where I
didn't want people to think I would wear that shirt.
I would never want to offend anyone, and telling people
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to stopping poor is just the opposite of my personality.
And some people already had this perception to me that
wasn't always positive. So this shirt just added to that
stereotype that some people judge me to be. So it's
really hard for me, um to have people thinking that
I would wear something like this, and it's something that's
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came up all the time. I've just seen it everywhere
and even be on the street sometimes when people will
come up and like scream that to me as a
joke and like laughing, um, because they think that I
wore it, And then I would see it like every Halloween.
It's all over social media, people dressing as me wearing that,
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and now I've seen that it's being sold all over online.
They're like rocking it too clubs. I'm always tagged in
pictures and social media, and uh yeah, that that shirt's
like taken on a life of its own, and it
didn't even exist, so it's like turned into this whole
thing where literally, like my persona is attached to it
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and people think that I would speak like that, and
I'm just so not the person who thinks like that,
speaks like that, And I don't know, It's just been
something that has been annoying for a long time because
I feel like the last thing I would have wanted
for people to see me as as someone who was
entitled or thought that she was better than other people.
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It's just not me at all, and people that know
me and know my heart know that despite appearances, I
am not that way at all, and I work very
hard and I'm grateful for everything and every blessing that
i have. That being said, it turned out to be
an iconic moment, and I think most people see it
as a hilarious thing after all these years. It got
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people talking, for sure, and now I cann't finally look
back at it and have a laugh about it. And
back in the day, I always wore slogan shirts like
I wore ones that say don't be jealous, that's hot
if you're not on the back. So I can definitely
see why people would have thought the photo was real
because photoshop wasn't as big of a deal back then
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as it is now. So right after I released the TikTok,
I got a message from Blake. Catherine Blake was the
artist that I collapsed with for my n F t drop,
and she wrote me, pull out my phone. My artist
friend who's amazing, saw your TikTok. And apparently was the photoshopper.
I'm deceased, and then she's sent me a screenshot of
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this girl, Jubilee, and she has the picture with the
stopping por shirt and says, laugh my ass off. OMG.
Paris Hilton made a TikTok about the shirt I photo shopped,
and then Blake replied, wait, you photo shopped this, and
that's when they started texting, and then she wrote her
as she screenshot, which she texted her When I made
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that in two thousand thirteen, I was on another planet.
I hope she thinks it's funny, though I never thought
so many people would think it was real. Then Blake wrote,
crying laughing at this, I thought it was real. I'm
so effing stupid, and then I replied to her, o MG,
I'm dead. I've been trying to find out for years
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who did that so hilarious, and Blake said, she is
so mortified it went viral. I died like it's iconic.
Tell her no worries. I'm not mad, but just think
it's hilarious. And always thought a paparazzi agency edited it
L O L and she said, yeah, she's an insane
pixel artist and apparently made it bored. One night, the
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way this was born kills me and I said, loves it.
And then I got a d M on Twitter from
Jubilee and she said, I'm glad you're not upset or anything.
Truly didn't think people would think it was real or
get upset over at l O L. I hope it
hasn't brought you any grief, and I replied, thank you
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for reaching out. I can laugh about it now, but
it used to hurt my feelings before the people thought
I really wore it because I felt bad that it
hurt people's feelings and made them think I was stuck up, etcetera.
So I felt beyond plus I would never wear that
l O L. But I kept getting asked about it
over the years, so I decided to answer so crazy
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how I literally thought it was a paparazzi agency or
someone who did it. Good that I can finally laugh
about it now really does show you that you can't
always believe what you read. And then I asked her
to be on the podcast. She said, good morning, I'm
sorry it used to hurt your feelings. It was totally
not my intention and I didn't even think about the
(07:13):
backlash it would cause I'm glad you can laugh about
it now though, And yeah, I was just a twenty
year old fan having fun with photoshop l O L.
But I hope it's a relief. It wasn't like paparazzi.
And then she just said I've never done a podcast,
that that would be fun. So I reached out to
her and she's going to be on the podcast. I
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can't believe that was all the way back in two thousand.
Now it's and I'm finally addressing this. Wow, So I'm
excited to talk to her. And uh, this is just
so random, but yeah, let's do this. Well, Hi, did
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you believe is Jubilie your name or is that your
art name? It's it's like a joke Nain that I
got forever ago, but I've gone by it for at
least like twelve years now, so it's pretty much my name.
I like it. It's like a happy, fun name. Well,
I want to thank you for coming to my podcast.
I know you said you haven't done this before, so
thank you for doing this. Yeah, no problem, It's pretty
(08:20):
cool to be invited. So I thought you would and
I was just looking you up online and just seeing
you're an amazing pixel artist, Like, I love your work.
It's so beautiful, just like the sunsets and the waves
and the ocean. Now you just like make like these
beautiful scenes out of pixels that like looks so real.
So I was just I want to say, I really
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love your art. It's so beautiful. That's really um sweet.
It means a lot to hear that from you. It's just, um,
it's I don't know, it's really cool to hear that
from so many of that I've I don't know, kind
of seeing my whole life. How long have you been
an artist? Umi? Learn stuff? I started about five years ago.
(09:03):
And when did you start photo shopping? Um, honestly around
two thousand thirteen, whenever I made that shirt photo shop. Yes,
so years ago. When you first photoshop the picture and
you saw it getting spread around, what did you think
in your head? Um, well, it was mostly just people
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laughing at it. But then people started taking seriously and
I was like, oh, oh no, they didn't. I didn't
think anyone I would actually believe it was a real shirt.
I know. I literally had to like explain that to
people when I met them. I'm like, no, is it
shirt that said stopping desper They're like no, no, no,
there's pictures all over online and I was like, no,
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someone made it as a joke. But I was so confused.
I was like, oh my god, Like, did a paparazzi
agency like do this to me? So I had no idea.
It was like a girl artist, like just having fun. Yeah,
I don't know. It's just the the original shirt message
and the way that you were just so flamboyantly posed
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in front of everybody. It was so funny to me,
and so I just had to push that message even
more extreme. I thought, did you think it would have
become as widely circulated as it did? Honestly, No. I
used to make a lot of really super like silly
photoshops and stuff like that, like, um, that was one
of the only things I made with you, But I
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think I don't I don't know. I never really expected
it to spread like that. When I was on a
clubhouse a few months ago, I got asked that in
one of the rooms I was on stage, and someone
in the crypto community said, um, do you know that
You're stop being poor? Shirt is like a huge thing
in the crypto community, where people like send it to
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each other, and it's like this whole thing about like
inspiration and getting into crypto and it's just like a
really important part of the movement. I was like, what
they're like, Yeah, like everyone thinks of it like a
really positive way. So I didn't I had no idea
about that, but I guess it's like in the crypto community,
it's something that they love, so yeah, yeah, it seems
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to be used a lot as a meme too, for
like political responses and stuff, And honestly, I think it's
really funny. I think it hits like the nail on
the head for a lot of political responses it's been
ushed for. But and also the fact that a lot
of people use it for their own personal like motivation
to make money is really cool. Yes, I think even
though I felt beyond because I didn't want people thinking,
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you know, a lot of people, if they don't know me,
they're like, oh, Paris Hilton, she's rich, she's spoiled, she's
stuck up. But if anyone gets to know me, they
see like I'm the total opposite of that. So I
just was like, I was only upset just of the
haters who like didn't get me who would say it
in a mean way. But I think anyone who understands
me or gets me knows that it wasn't real, or
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if I did wear it like, it would have been
like a joke and not like being like vindictive or weird.
I mean, yeah, like it just is such a ridiculous
message you would think that people would I don't know,
I know that it's kind of satire and not real.
But do you ever have any idea that you would
have such an effect on pop culture? Well? No, honestly, no,
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not with that at all. Yeah, you're definitely ahead of
your time because that was like before like all the
memes and all of that really got just like happening online.
So I feel like that was like one of the
first and then people started copying you and doing things
like that as well. Yeah, it's it's weird that it
was like one of the first ones, and it's like honestly,
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on Tumbler and stuff like that, it really didn't get
much traction. I only got like it has like a
less than a hundred thousand notes, but everywhere else it
just blew up. I know, I've seen it everywhere where.
Did you first post the picture. That's where I first
posted it was on Tumblr, okay, and then it just
spread out from there. Yeah, I'm not sure. I think
(13:02):
like some article got ahold of it and was like, wow,
I can't believe it or something like that, like they
actually bought the shirt was real. What were you thinking
when that happened. I felt really bad, honestly, like I
didn't want anyone to like actually think it was real.
I mean, when I look at it, it seems pretty
obviously think to me, So I don't know, Um, when
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you saw my reaction video on TikTok, what was going
through your head? It was really funny because my mom
actually sent it to me and she was like, oh
my god, aren't you the one that photoshop that shirt?
And I was like, wow, that's so weird. Did you
ever think that I was going to address it? Well,
it's been so long, so I honestly thought no, Like,
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if you would have addressed it, I thought it would
probably been when like immediately like after it happened, but
it's been so long. I was like, oh, I guess
she just doesn't care. Yeah. I was never even going
to address it because I feel like over my life
there's just been so many rumors about me in the
media that I've just never addressed. And I wasn't going
to address this. But my friend Tiffany, she works at TikTok,
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and she was here and we were doing content and
we were talking about iconic outfits and she asked me
where my Stopping Poor shirt was and that's how I
told her the real story about how it says stopping desperate,
and um, She's like, we need to do a TikTok
about that. That's like people need to know that. So
she taught me how to do like the green screen
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with the pictures in the back, and that's how it happened.
But yeah, I wasn't planning on ever talking about it,
but I'm glad we did because then I got to
meet you and you. I love meeting with female artists,
So it's I don't know, maybe everything in life happens
for a reason. That's very sweet. But yeah, yeah, it
definitely took me to my surprise to see that you
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could finally did the TikTok. And it's so weird that
you actually did the TikTok on the day that you
did the TikTok because it was eight years to the
day that I had posted that meme, Like exactly, it's
so weird. What that's crazy? Yeah, I had originally posted
it on like May second or third. It was so weird.
(15:14):
That's so bizarre. I just had no idea about that part.
But well, that's pretty interesting. We were in a different
time back then, and a shared photo is basically like
a meme today. How does it feel to have helped
me make an iconic moment? Honestly, it just kind of
feels like one of many of your iconic moments. But
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the fact that it's kind of just so relevant nowadays,
it's kind of cool. Like I see it posted so often,
and then like my friends that know that I made it,
they always see and like send it to me and
stuff like that, and it gets used in so many
like viral memes. It's so funny what we were friends
saying to you after they saw my TikTok. They just
(15:55):
can't believe it in the fact that you even like
reached out and stuff like that. It's so funny. Like
I've been kind of seeing little updates and stuff in
my discord and like, but whenever you followed me, I
posted that and everyone was like, oh my god, no way.
And then whenever you reached out and stuff like it's
just funny, they're like all freaking out and they love
you so much. Tell them I love them too. I
saw someone person They're like, oh my god, Like that's
(16:17):
like finding out like like I don't know if someone
wrote replied to you something about like it's like finding
out like Santa Claus isn't real or something. I just
that comment was hilarious. Oh yeah, I know. It's so
funny how many people thought it was real, and like
in a positive way too, Like they didn't think it
was mean or anything. They just loved it for the
(16:39):
fact that it was there, and they just wanted to
use it as positive motivation, like motivation, and I mean it,
I mean as a pr person. I'm the one that
made it, so I mean I kind of made it
as a place and like satire from a poor person,
So I mean, I kind of know what we're talking about. Yeah,
a lot of people are saying in the comments that
they actually liked that shrip better and that they're sad
that it's actually not really that I didn't wear it,
(17:02):
but they said that you're a genius well, you gave
me the inspiration, so thank you. I love it. Well,
thank you so much for coming on the podcast, and
again I love your art. It's beautiful. And yeah, I
just really appreciate you coming on here and talking about
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this because I don't know, I feel like I'm always
very shy with people as well, so um, I don't know,
it's nice just to like connect and talk. Yeah, thank you.
It's definitely been my first like um phone im ProView
I've ever done or anything like that, so it's it's
been very interesting. But thank you so much for having
me on. And it's kind of cool that even when
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to talk to me just because I edited a shirt
all those years ago, so thank you. Well, it's been
a big part of my life. So happy we cleared
that up and now we're friends. Yeah, I mean, I
definitely never met any ill will or anything like that.
I'm sorry cause you stress and stuff like that because
you thought it was the properazzi. Ever. No, I'm just
happy to know that it wasn't because that would have
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been scary because they have done weird stuff like that
to me before. So um, yeah, it was just some
dumb kid with photoshop. It was innocent. Alright, honey, Well,
have a beautiful day and keep killing it with your art.
And again, thank you so much, thank you so much,
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thank you just thanks for reaching out. And I hope
we get to speak again. I would love that. By
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Rank. This is Paris. Hey guys, So today we're gonna
be talking about the infamous Stopping Poor shirt. So basically
I did a TikTok about it. My friend Tiffany from
(00:21):
TikTok was over here and we were just filming some
content and I don't know how it came up. We're
just talking about like my iconic outfits, and she said, oh,
do you still have the Stopping Poor shirt? I was like,
what I told her the story. I was like, I
never wore that shirt. That's actually a photoshop picture. And
she said, well, then you have to do like a
(00:42):
video about it on TikTok explaining that. And that's how
it came about, because this is something I never really
talked about because I assumed some people thought it was
not real since there was the real shirt online. Um So, anyway,
the backstory is that my sister Nikki, she actually designed
(01:04):
the tank top was from her chick line and it
had the slogan stopping Desperate. So we had the fashion show.
It was amazing, so much fun and yeah, just an
innocent shirt, stopping desperate, something funny that we would always say.
And then one day I got a picture sent to
me and they're like, I can't believe that you wore
(01:24):
a shirt saying stopping poor. And I was like, what,
I would never wear something like that. And I looked
at the picture and then I was like, oh my god,
like somebody actually photoshop this. And then I was like,
who would do this? And I was assuming that it was,
you know, a paparazzi agency or someone, um, because this
(01:46):
was before social media, so it was before people were
making memes or anything like that. Um, this was like
the first of its kind that's literally went on to
be so many different memes, Like it's even been changed,
like stopping poors become so many other things people say
like stopping I don't know, there's a lot of them online,
(02:06):
um from that shirt. So when I saw that, it
was just something that really bothered me. And you know,
just looking back at that time, I know that some
people took it as lighthearted and saw it as a joke.
But I definitely had a moment of insecurity where I
didn't want people to think I would wear that shirt.
I would never want to offend anyone, and telling people
(02:27):
to stopping poor is just the opposite of my personality.
And some people already had this perception to me that
wasn't always positive. So this shirt just added to that
stereotype that some people judge me to be. So it's
really hard for me, um to have people thinking that
I would wear something like this, and it's something that's
(02:49):
came up all the time. I've just seen it everywhere
and even be on the street sometimes when people will
come up and like scream that to me as a
joke and like laughing, um, because they think that I
wore it, And then I would see it like every Halloween.
It's all over social media, people dressing as me wearing that,
(03:09):
and now I've seen that it's being sold all over online.
They're like rocking it too clubs. I'm always tagged in
pictures and social media, and uh yeah, that that shirt's
like taken on a life of its own, and it
didn't even exist, so it's like turned into this whole
thing where literally, like my persona is attached to it
(03:33):
and people think that I would speak like that, and
I'm just so not the person who thinks like that,
speaks like that, And I don't know, It's just been
something that has been annoying for a long time because
I feel like the last thing I would have wanted
for people to see me as as someone who was
entitled or thought that she was better than other people.
(03:54):
It's just not me at all, and people that know
me and know my heart know that despite appearances, I
am not that way at all, and I work very
hard and I'm grateful for everything and every blessing that
i have. That being said, it turned out to be
an iconic moment, and I think most people see it
as a hilarious thing after all these years. It got
(04:15):
people talking, for sure, and now I cann't finally look
back at it and have a laugh about it. And
back in the day, I always wore slogan shirts like
I wore ones that say don't be jealous, that's hot
if you're not on the back. So I can definitely
see why people would have thought the photo was real
because photoshop wasn't as big of a deal back then
(04:36):
as it is now. So right after I released the TikTok,
I got a message from Blake. Catherine Blake was the
artist that I collapsed with for my n F t drop,
and she wrote me, pull out my phone. My artist
friend who's amazing, saw your TikTok. And apparently was the photoshopper.
I'm deceased, and then she's sent me a screenshot of
(05:02):
this girl, Jubilee, and she has the picture with the
stopping por shirt and says, laugh my ass off. OMG.
Paris Hilton made a TikTok about the shirt I photo shopped,
and then Blake replied, wait, you photo shopped this, and
that's when they started texting, and then she wrote her
as she screenshot, which she texted her When I made
(05:24):
that in two thousand thirteen, I was on another planet.
I hope she thinks it's funny, though I never thought
so many people would think it was real. Then Blake wrote,
crying laughing at this, I thought it was real. I'm
so effing stupid, and then I replied to her, o MG,
I'm dead. I've been trying to find out for years
(05:45):
who did that so hilarious, and Blake said, she is
so mortified it went viral. I died like it's iconic.
Tell her no worries. I'm not mad, but just think
it's hilarious. And always thought a paparazzi agency edited it
L O L and she said, yeah, she's an insane
pixel artist and apparently made it bored. One night, the
(06:09):
way this was born kills me and I said, loves it.
And then I got a d M on Twitter from
Jubilee and she said, I'm glad you're not upset or anything.
Truly didn't think people would think it was real or
get upset over at l O L. I hope it
hasn't brought you any grief, and I replied, thank you
(06:29):
for reaching out. I can laugh about it now, but
it used to hurt my feelings before the people thought
I really wore it because I felt bad that it
hurt people's feelings and made them think I was stuck up, etcetera.
So I felt beyond plus I would never wear that
l O L. But I kept getting asked about it
over the years, so I decided to answer so crazy
(06:52):
how I literally thought it was a paparazzi agency or
someone who did it. Good that I can finally laugh
about it now really does show you that you can't
always believe what you read. And then I asked her
to be on the podcast. She said, good morning, I'm
sorry it used to hurt your feelings. It was totally
not my intention and I didn't even think about the
(07:13):
backlash it would cause I'm glad you can laugh about
it now though, And yeah, I was just a twenty
year old fan having fun with photoshop l O L.
But I hope it's a relief. It wasn't like paparazzi.
And then she just said I've never done a podcast,
that that would be fun. So I reached out to
her and she's going to be on the podcast. I
(07:34):
can't believe that was all the way back in two thousand.
Now it's and I'm finally addressing this. Wow, So I'm
excited to talk to her. And uh, this is just
so random, but yeah, let's do this. Well, Hi, did
(07:56):
you believe is Jubilie your name or is that your
art name? It's it's like a joke Nain that I
got forever ago, but I've gone by it for at
least like twelve years now, so it's pretty much my name.
I like it. It's like a happy, fun name. Well,
I want to thank you for coming to my podcast.
I know you said you haven't done this before, so
thank you for doing this. Yeah, no problem, It's pretty
(08:20):
cool to be invited. So I thought you would and
I was just looking you up online and just seeing
you're an amazing pixel artist, Like, I love your work.
It's so beautiful, just like the sunsets and the waves
and the ocean. Now you just like make like these
beautiful scenes out of pixels that like looks so real.
So I was just I want to say, I really
(08:41):
love your art. It's so beautiful. That's really um sweet.
It means a lot to hear that from you. It's just, um,
it's I don't know, it's really cool to hear that
from so many of that I've I don't know, kind
of seeing my whole life. How long have you been
an artist? Umi? Learn stuff? I started about five years ago.
(09:03):
And when did you start photo shopping? Um, honestly around
two thousand thirteen, whenever I made that shirt photo shop. Yes,
so years ago. When you first photoshop the picture and
you saw it getting spread around, what did you think
in your head? Um, well, it was mostly just people
(09:25):
laughing at it. But then people started taking seriously and
I was like, oh, oh no, they didn't. I didn't
think anyone I would actually believe it was a real shirt.
I know. I literally had to like explain that to
people when I met them. I'm like, no, is it
shirt that said stopping desper They're like no, no, no,
there's pictures all over online and I was like, no,
(09:45):
someone made it as a joke. But I was so confused.
I was like, oh my god, Like, did a paparazzi
agency like do this to me? So I had no idea.
It was like a girl artist, like just having fun. Yeah,
I don't know. It's just the the original shirt message
and the way that you were just so flamboyantly posed
(10:07):
in front of everybody. It was so funny to me,
and so I just had to push that message even
more extreme. I thought, did you think it would have
become as widely circulated as it did? Honestly, No. I
used to make a lot of really super like silly
photoshops and stuff like that, like, um, that was one
of the only things I made with you, But I
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think I don't I don't know. I never really expected
it to spread like that. When I was on a
clubhouse a few months ago, I got asked that in
one of the rooms I was on stage, and someone
in the crypto community said, um, do you know that
You're stop being poor? Shirt is like a huge thing
in the crypto community, where people like send it to
(10:49):
each other, and it's like this whole thing about like
inspiration and getting into crypto and it's just like a
really important part of the movement. I was like, what
they're like, Yeah, like everyone thinks of it like a
really positive way. So I didn't I had no idea
about that, but I guess it's like in the crypto community,
it's something that they love, so yeah, yeah, it seems
(11:11):
to be used a lot as a meme too, for
like political responses and stuff, And honestly, I think it's
really funny. I think it hits like the nail on
the head for a lot of political responses it's been
ushed for. But and also the fact that a lot
of people use it for their own personal like motivation
to make money is really cool. Yes, I think even
though I felt beyond because I didn't want people thinking,
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you know, a lot of people, if they don't know me,
they're like, oh, Paris Hilton, she's rich, she's spoiled, she's
stuck up. But if anyone gets to know me, they
see like I'm the total opposite of that. So I
just was like, I was only upset just of the
haters who like didn't get me who would say it
in a mean way. But I think anyone who understands
me or gets me knows that it wasn't real, or
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if I did wear it like, it would have been
like a joke and not like being like vindictive or weird.
I mean, yeah, like it just is such a ridiculous
message you would think that people would I don't know,
I know that it's kind of satire and not real.
But do you ever have any idea that you would
have such an effect on pop culture? Well? No, honestly, no,
(12:19):
not with that at all. Yeah, you're definitely ahead of
your time because that was like before like all the
memes and all of that really got just like happening online.
So I feel like that was like one of the
first and then people started copying you and doing things
like that as well. Yeah, it's it's weird that it
was like one of the first ones, and it's like honestly,
(12:41):
on Tumbler and stuff like that, it really didn't get
much traction. I only got like it has like a
less than a hundred thousand notes, but everywhere else it
just blew up. I know, I've seen it everywhere where.
Did you first post the picture. That's where I first
posted it was on Tumblr, okay, and then it just
spread out from there. Yeah, I'm not sure. I think
(13:02):
like some article got ahold of it and was like, wow,
I can't believe it or something like that, like they
actually bought the shirt was real. What were you thinking
when that happened. I felt really bad, honestly, like I
didn't want anyone to like actually think it was real.
I mean, when I look at it, it seems pretty
obviously think to me, So I don't know, Um, when
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you saw my reaction video on TikTok, what was going
through your head? It was really funny because my mom
actually sent it to me and she was like, oh
my god, aren't you the one that photoshop that shirt?
And I was like, wow, that's so weird. Did you
ever think that I was going to address it? Well,
it's been so long, so I honestly thought no, Like,
(13:45):
if you would have addressed it, I thought it would
probably been when like immediately like after it happened, but
it's been so long. I was like, oh, I guess
she just doesn't care. Yeah. I was never even going
to address it because I feel like over my life
there's just been so many rumors about me in the
media that I've just never addressed. And I wasn't going
to address this. But my friend Tiffany, she works at TikTok,
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and she was here and we were doing content and
we were talking about iconic outfits and she asked me
where my Stopping Poor shirt was and that's how I
told her the real story about how it says stopping desperate,
and um, She's like, we need to do a TikTok
about that. That's like people need to know that. So
she taught me how to do like the green screen
(14:29):
with the pictures in the back, and that's how it happened.
But yeah, I wasn't planning on ever talking about it,
but I'm glad we did because then I got to
meet you and you. I love meeting with female artists,
So it's I don't know, maybe everything in life happens
for a reason. That's very sweet. But yeah, yeah, it
definitely took me to my surprise to see that you
(14:51):
could finally did the TikTok. And it's so weird that
you actually did the TikTok on the day that you
did the TikTok because it was eight years to the
day that I had posted that meme, Like exactly, it's
so weird. What that's crazy? Yeah, I had originally posted
it on like May second or third. It was so weird.
(15:14):
That's so bizarre. I just had no idea about that part.
But well, that's pretty interesting. We were in a different
time back then, and a shared photo is basically like
a meme today. How does it feel to have helped
me make an iconic moment? Honestly, it just kind of
feels like one of many of your iconic moments. But
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the fact that it's kind of just so relevant nowadays,
it's kind of cool. Like I see it posted so often,
and then like my friends that know that I made it,
they always see and like send it to me and
stuff like that, and it gets used in so many
like viral memes. It's so funny what we were friends
saying to you after they saw my TikTok. They just
(15:55):
can't believe it in the fact that you even like
reached out and stuff like that. It's so funny. Like
I've been kind of seeing little updates and stuff in
my discord and like, but whenever you followed me, I
posted that and everyone was like, oh my god, no way.
And then whenever you reached out and stuff like it's
just funny, they're like all freaking out and they love
you so much. Tell them I love them too. I
saw someone person They're like, oh my god, Like that's
(16:17):
like finding out like like I don't know if someone
wrote replied to you something about like it's like finding
out like Santa Claus isn't real or something. I just
that comment was hilarious. Oh yeah, I know. It's so
funny how many people thought it was real, and like
in a positive way too, Like they didn't think it
was mean or anything. They just loved it for the
(16:39):
fact that it was there, and they just wanted to
use it as positive motivation, like motivation, and I mean it,
I mean as a pr person. I'm the one that
made it, so I mean I kind of made it
as a place and like satire from a poor person,
So I mean, I kind of know what we're talking about. Yeah,
a lot of people are saying in the comments that
they actually liked that shrip better and that they're sad
that it's actually not really that I didn't wear it,
(17:02):
but they said that you're a genius well, you gave
me the inspiration, so thank you. I love it. Well,
thank you so much for coming on the podcast, and
again I love your art. It's beautiful. And yeah, I
just really appreciate you coming on here and talking about
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this because I don't know, I feel like I'm always
very shy with people as well, so um, I don't know,
it's nice just to like connect and talk. Yeah, thank you.
It's definitely been my first like um phone im ProView
I've ever done or anything like that, so it's it's
been very interesting. But thank you so much for having
me on. And it's kind of cool that even when
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to talk to me just because I edited a shirt
all those years ago, so thank you. Well, it's been
a big part of my life. So happy we cleared
that up and now we're friends. Yeah, I mean, I
definitely never met any ill will or anything like that.
I'm sorry cause you stress and stuff like that because
you thought it was the properazzi. Ever. No, I'm just
happy to know that it wasn't because that would have
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been scary because they have done weird stuff like that
to me before. So um, yeah, it was just some
dumb kid with photoshop. It was innocent. Alright, honey, Well,
have a beautiful day and keep killing it with your art.
And again, thank you so much, thank you so much,
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thank you just thanks for reaching out. And I hope
we get to speak again. I would love that. By
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