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little bit nervous to do. This is somebody I look
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So this is a pretty special experience and we're really
happy that all you guys can make it. UH. This
is a first for the studio. We are going to
be doing a live recording of Michael's podcast I Am
Rapp Report with the November Foundation and special guest Mike d.
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organizing teams. So we felt the time was right to
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music and men's health in an effort to draw awareness
and attention to the November Foundation and men's health issues. So,
without further ado, I want to introduce Mark Headstrom, Country

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Director of November and he will introduce Michael and give
you guys a bit of information on November. So thank you,
Thank you everyone. How you doing tonight? UM? A little
bit of background on November. UM, We're more than just
the thing. We're actually a global men's health foundation that
focuses on four key areas process cancer, test, secure cancer, UH,

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men and boys, mental health and physical inactivity. We're founded
in Melbourne, Australia back in two thousand three and to
date we've raised over six fifty million dollars from men's
health initiatives. And the one thing that I think we've
learned over those years is getting men to talk about
some of the harder issues UM that they often don't

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talk about. UM is the way the mustache has really
become a powerful tool for that. It seems on its
surface a little bit ridiculous, but I can tell you
in attest to the fact that growing a mustache for Remember,
we'll start a conversation with someone in your life and
hopefully it'll change either your life or theirs. UM. So
we're really excited to have this U I am Rappa

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Poor special edition UH to talk about men's health issues,
particularly with Michael's unique approach to talking about sports, life,
music and films. So I'm really excited to have him
and Mike D here. UM. You know, childhood fan of
the Beast Boys, So we really excited to have this
opportunity to listen to these two guys talk. So give
Michael a big round of applause and I'll turn it

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over to him. Thank you, how you guys doing, Thanks
for coming, and UH, this is UH. This gentleman right
here is named Mike D from the bat boys, so

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everybody can relax. How's everybody over there already got their
drinks and they're comfortable. And when I gotta put my
phone on airplane, all right, you don't really have to
hold on whilight do it? No? No, no, you you
made a point of it. So we're gonna hold on.
I'm gonna yeah. I like it to be as theatricals.
We make sure is everybody else's phone on airplane airplane mode.

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Oh yeah, there we go. I'm all up. All right. Well,
first of all, um, I appreciate you coming out to
talk to the people. The people are very exciting people.
The people are very excited. Who selected the people? The
people selected you, Mike D. Okay, so you know, let's look.

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I don't think we give a proper introduction to to
Mike D. So let's give it warm introduction to Mike D.
Thank you, all right? And wait, what about warm introduction
for you for Michael Rappaport. I think the host please
all right, that's proper, that's proper. Thank you, Thank you

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for hosting us. Yes, and and and uh. This is
a live version of the Iron rapp Poor podcast, which
is a worldwide phenomenon. So some of you may or
may not know about and uh But but to be honest,
when I put it out that I was interviewing, uh you,
I I asked, I suggested questions, and I got so many, many, many, many,

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many many questions. But I'm gonna act like throw all
mine because uh, you know, I'm not I'm not my
Diane Sawyer game. So all right, so it's November, so
to jump right into November, it's health. And I was
thinking how ironic it is to be interviewing a beastie
boy who probably grew up on a strong diet of

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hot dogs and brass monkey about health. But we get older,
and obviously, you know, as as we get older, I
know I could say for myself, you know, health becomes
more of an issue and you have kids, and you know,
you start to start to uh you know, you get
back aches and elbows hurt. And so my first question,
and this is a true question, and I'm not trying
to be funny because I'm very strong proponent of this.

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So I'm just gonna throw this out there to ask
you just the general health, especially a man over thirty eight,
which I am. You know a little bit, have you
when was the last time. Now this is a serious question.
When was the last time you got your prostate check?
That's that's a recent phenomenon for me. Okay, so that's good.
But you did get it checked. Yeah, you gotta you

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gotta get a check when you hit forty because we
we need, we do need to acknowledge the health stuff.
You do need to get your prostate check. I mean,
I don't really remember the you know, you they give
you something, and so you don't know what who did
you go to? Because my guy didn't give you ship.
He was talking to me like it was just another
day at the beach, like he was talking to me
through it. And I was like Dr Fishman, like just

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do what you need to do. Let's not act like
something weird's not happening. Okay, so you so you got
you got a little set. I have a little roof eed. Alright, good,
but you did get a check. Because because I'll tell you, like,
since we talking about health, I'll just share something open.
I I suffer from something called alstortive colitis. I've had
it the majority of my life. And you know, I'm

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just all my friends, anybody who knows me, who who
comes across me will tell you that I will ask
you once you hit forty, have you gotten colin oscarpy
and or your prostate check? So I just just to
show her hands in here. Men over forty are we
getting are we taking care of our health? Alright? Good,
because it's it's real ship, because you know, no point intended.

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All right, so we'll move on there. But it's just
there's something something when I thought about health, and and
you know, that's always the first thing I go to
when when I talked to men, is this is going
really good? For that's the dude, Like at halftime at
the game, as I first know if I see somebody
like if I see somebody like, yo, we went to
high school together, and like the conversation last more than

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five the first thing, you know the guy for twenty years. No,
but I might not have seen him. He to be like,
you know we went to high school. Oh yeah, it
was in your science because oh the general thing or
at the game and the nicks and nick sucking. Then
sooner or later did you get your prostate checked? Okay?
All right? All right? So so by the way, I
got confused straight up because I was thinking colon oscarpe

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so right, okay, all right, so that's where you know
they had to put you out because they go all
up in the chess piece with the colon oscarpy. It's
real ship. I can't, no pun intendant, I'm sorry. Alright,
So so health, So how how are you beastie boy?
Mike D I'm referencing because it's just the health. What

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is your what is your health game? Do you you
look good? Mike? I think you do. You look good,
you look strong, you look solid, You're like you know,
you look Actually I just had knee surgery. No lie,
what happened to my meniscus in part of my a
c L and what they had to improve that ship? Uh?
Surfing okay, you know in white men cancer and supposed

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to be able to surf for white man from you know,
New York City, Jewish head from New York, Sir, you're Jewish?
I am all right. That's good for all the Jews.
And yeah, let me tell you I've learned. I've been
surfing for a while now, and I love surfing. I
do with my kids. We all love it. And I
have a lot of great friends who surf. But um, everyone,

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there's not many black people to surf, and there's not
many Jews to survive exactly, and there's yeah and listen,
and there's and there's not that many Jews are especially
just people of color. We need to change that ship.
That's Andrew. I'm opening the gate to Jews to why
not who's saying there's not that many And there's certainly
not many New York Jews who surf, because I feel

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like New York Jews are are are breed unto ourselves, right,
We're like our own special right there in Brooklyn's forty
you know, forty five minutes to Rockaway. Yes, I could
have been surfing, but phenomenon people surfing. Yeah, No, that
is definitely that's definitely news test rude. That's like newer

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than Williamsburg. You know what I mean, Like what do
you all staring out? And then then when he was
growing up in Brighton Beach? Hell no, all right, so
what what is your Okay? So, so you've been rehabbing
your knee. We're gonna get I know, everybody's like, you
want to talk about polls? Okay, I'm talking physical therapy,

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physical therapy, yeah, real talk. No, I this is great.
I was I was on crutches this day last week.
Oh ship, real talk. So are you have you started
surfing yet again? No, not yet. I'm just just I'm
just getting I'm like the closest I've gotten. I'm on
the stationary bicycle, dude. Okay, okay, that's like the baby steps,

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my baby steps, all right? And and and and what
about what about eating? Because you got this is another
thing I'll ask you know people within conversation. Are you vegetarian?
Eating is important? Are you vegetarian? I was for a
long time, but I'm not unless I made a fucking steak, Mike.
That's a question. That's I don't know. I'm really long time,
probably twenty years. I don't even serious. So you're not serious,

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are you are? Okay? Are you vegetarian? I'm I'm not
currently a practicing vegetarian, Mike. All Right. I did that
ship for a lot of years, and I have mad
love for people that are doing it. Actually, it is
more sustainable for the world. Yes, okay, said I have

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some I have some vegetarian friends in here, and and
and my question, I do too. I got my I
have my vegeto. Yeah. Okay, Actually, listen, you're not the
only woman with vegetarian friends. My my question for a
lot of New York Jews have vegetarian friends. How's everybody feeling? Alright,

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good good good good good good good good. So the
thing about the vegetarian is, and I'll ask the questions.
You say, it's like a whole different species. Well, you know,
some of them are militant, some not my friends. I
don't know. I haven't met your vegetarian crew yet, but
they were eyeballing me in the back. But but you know,

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I always say, like if the cows and the chickens
and and and and we didn't eat them, then what
the funk would they be doing with themselves? That's always
my general question is like where would they be? It'd
be like anarch and they'd be like in the streets,
so like would they be like have their own like
be a bike lane in the cow lane? And like
what would you do? You know what I'm saying, Like
it's like and it is it healthy? I don't know

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if it's I mean, I grew up eating you know, stovetop,
you know TV dinners and shouldn't look at me. Yeah,
I love Swanson's. When I was a kid, exactly like love.
I bet you theyselves serve TV dinners now that are vegetarian.
Oh yeah, I know in the health food store, right
is making mad money off of that swan since vegetarian meals?

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How did you become a vegetarian? They just have to
change it. Can't be hungry man like hungry man dinner
doesn't You can't call it that. Yeah, so what what
made you want? Half the world's women? So you can't
be hungry man number one just saying that's true. Woman's
gotta eat, in fact, gotta eat. What made you want

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to become a vegetarian? There was a it was a
gradual process. But no, I look all right, I grew
up as we've as we've you know, we we've done
the ground in New York. I ate, and I ate
a lot of crap, and you know, we are talked
about it a lot on records. Um, I don't really
talk about eating any fine foods onas which is but um,

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but yeah, I mean even Kanye West guys lyrics eating
vegetarian with the brown rice. I don't like caress One
was talking that. Yeah, like I love yeah and don't
eat meat, Oh hamburgers. I like that he separates like
like burgers are a different category, right, it was a

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separate thing from meat, like meat, and then there's hamburgers. Absolutely,
who else did uh that? When? When I when I
opened the form up, I want to hear something, I think,
Big Daddy Kane, No fish on my dish? Oh yeah, fish,
which is my favorite dish. That's okay, No, but Kane

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said something pork on my fork. I don't know. We'll
get to the hip hop. Why you know, I'm chopping
at the bit to to talk hip hop with you,
but right now we're talking. Well, hell all right, so
I vegin know. Honestly, I had stopped. It was a
gradual thing. I think I had stopped eating steak whatever.
And we know, lie, we were on tour. We're in

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New Zealand, and I saw a chicken truck. Now I
know this is, you know, kind of speaking a little
bit to your point. Chicken truck like a big truck,
like a semi loaded up. But it was all like cages,
like chickens, like live chickens. And I guess coops cages.
I don't know what you I don't know the technical
turn in the chicken world. Okay, chicken coop. All right,

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it was chicken coops and and I saw one and
I just realized, like, they're they're all going to get
killed so we can eat them. And then I had
like a weird it was it was weird tribute. Bro.
I was like, I'm out, I'm out. I get out
of the chicken game now. So you started, you gave
up the chicken. I gave up the chicken game. And

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then because I could say cold turkey, but no, I stopped. Yeah,
I stopped. Then then I was vegetarian. Is it true?
I just heard before a long time? And then yeah.
Then I had kids, and then I was like I
I need some energy to I'm gonna possibly keep up
with these two kids. Did they do they eat meat?

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You know? You know it's funny. They were I raised
them vegetarian and now and up until last year and
now they're thirteen and eleven now, so up until they
were ten and twelve, they had never eaten meat. And
then they both we were traveling and they were were
like places where they had a lot of meat, and
then they were like they just really wanted to try it.

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I was like, doesn't you guys are old enough now?
You know the stats, you know the information. It's like,
if that's what you want to do, yeah, can go
for it. And they never they had never had it
in the leaven on the sneak like some bologna like sneaks.
To my knowledge, that's cool. Respect that it must be.

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It might have been like a lunch room trade that
went on, I don't know, some back room cam and cheese,
tuna fish sandwiches. Um. I always think about having kids
and raised them vegetarian because I think about like my
young kids in California, which this will segue us into

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the New York California of it all. Um, you could
stop at the store and get your stuff, But in
New York it's like bodegas and like you know, Deli's
and ship and like if you like you're starving, like
and you really need something and you're like uptown somewhere,
like you can't go intoto a bodega and be like,
I mean, what are you just gonna get like a
handful of lettuce? Like I don't know what if we
need like that nurse? What mean everything in the I'm

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just saying twenty years ago, like half the whole bodegaree
every like they got options. But when I was younger,
I was thinking like this, this will never work. Like
I pondered being a vegetat. I just don't feel like
I have the makeup of and this way it would
be hard. You'd be hard pressed now except for certain

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bodegas to find Fried Park rhymes. And that's a goddamn shame.
And there wasn't time's shame. I was guaranteed always Yeah,
but that then, but there's something there's something wrong with that,
just in the state of New York City, in the
state of New York that you can't get pork lines
when you go into a proper bodega. Yeah, I'm not

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endorsing the pork or the rhine, but I culturally I agree.
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open this up at the end of this for questions
for Mike D because I'm sure many of you guys
have questions, and uh, all right, I'm gonna segue into
New York Los Angeles and then we're gonna get into
music and all that sort of stuff. So, so, what's
the difference to you of living on a day to
day basis in Los Angeles and New York and what

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brought you out here to actually? Like, do you have
a loss a California driver's license? I do now me too.
I'm ashamed to say that, because you know, people are
easier to get it here. That's why I broke. It's like,
you know, New York, nobody gives a funk, Like you
can't do anything easily right in New York because I'm
getting a driver's license. Yeah, it doesn't matter. You wait
online with everybody. There's no making an appointment right here's

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easy to go online. You make an appointment people, they
actually are nice to you. So it's easier to get
a driver's license here. It is true there there, it's
just there's more space, Like I know what you mean
by that, but but it's far just on New York
people just knew everyone, Like and you go in a
place like d m V in New York, everybody works

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at DV is just angry. They've been angry for about
thirty years before you stepped into that door. That's how
long they get angry for already. So and you're not
gonna change that. Customer services, if you go to a
star you know, in general, New York City does not
customer service does not exist. They don't give a fuck.
Like if you go into like General, like and the

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rest of the world, a Starbucks, they have a certain
disposition like, Hi, can I help you? New York. It's
like you're in a fucking gas station. Like it's like
you're pulling up late at night to get a coffee,
but it's like nine in the morning and it's a
beautiful spring day. It's just like, what do you want?
Lat how many shots? They don't give a ship? So
I know what you're saying, No, the best you gott if?
If the if the barista actually kind of looks over

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after he gets to order and goes like, I got you,
fam that's about the best that's about the best you're
gonna get. That's good, Mike d Alright, So California, Los
are you one of these people who thinks New York
isn't the same? It sucks? It's changed so much? Uh?
Like who it hears from the East Coast? Who here?

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Who hears from California? Actual cow? That's that's I'm I'm
surprised because I feel like, especially l A, there's so
many transplanted I'm surprised by that. I'm surprised or just
transplanted in general. But that's good. That's good. That's California love,
that's California pride. How many people in here are from

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New York City? Okay? Okay? Um? So for me, you know,
like the I called like the biggest thing that I
miss about living in New York on a day to
day basis is like let's say, uh, this goes well, right,
and we were in New York and be like, Yo,
you want to say no, let's say this goes well,

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like let say gets better and better. But I'm just saying,
let's say you think it goes well, and like you're like, yo, Mike,
let's maybe get a drink afterwards, Like in California would
be like, Okay, let's meet at this place on La
Sienna cans So and we'll drive there. But if we
were in New York would be like, Yo, let's go
get a drink somewhere. This one good. Let or let's
go to the boat Degan see if they have pork grinds,
and we like, let's go for a walk. See in

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New York, like if you run into somebody, you can say, yeah,
let's I'm going that way. Let's go to that Starbucks
with the shitty attitude down the street and we go
for a walk in l A. Literally this happens every
few weeks. You'll pull up to a stop like, yo,
you know what's going on? Call me, and then you
drive off. But like, I just missed the walking well
and just the spontaneity of just being able to be
like wandering to find. It's like you're wandering around aimlessly.

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It is great. I agree that you can't do that.
You can't have no direction here. You love to now
as you meet, like your car being the middle of
a libraya and a standstill and yeah, you're just over
and someone the rear and you would be very bad
that's the thing I missed the most about living in
in in New York City on a day to day basis.

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But you think New York has changed, Like like, are
you like one of these like oh, the good old days,
like when you were running around the village, you know,
doing punk rock uh and all these horrible things that
you made songs about. Like like do you feel like
that element is gone from New York City or do
you feel like it's still exists and we're just older

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and you know, have bad knees and ship Yeah. Yeah,
well you know I'm being an older person with a
bad knee. But that's now, you know, been medically remedied. No,
not yet. Well I don't trying. I'm I'm very confident
in my surgical staff. You look, you look so well,

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thank you. No, I've look absolutely. New York has changed.
And like it's funny cause I get torn a lot,
Like I feel like, am I really now to do this?
Like I remember when it costs, you know, seventy five
cents ticket on the subway or whatever, and like I
don't want to be that guy. But New York has
fundamentally change because I think there's a lot of the

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culture that could exist when we were kids in the
city because people could There's just an economic reality that
people who wherever you could be that weird person from
wherever you were from, and you were waiting the clock
was ticking till you could leave that town and moved
to New York. And you didn't have to have like

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a trust fund, you didn't have to have a job,
you didn't have to have anything. All you had to
have was that that dream of that happening. And then
you made that dream into your reality and you go
and then you meet a million other people that are
doing exactly the same thing. Is that and then that
those different dreams would actually manifest, you know, like and

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you didn't have to spend eight hours a day working
this job just so that you could have enough money
to write this book or to write this song or
take these photographs. You could just do it. And yeah,
you'd have to wait tables or do whatever shitty job,
but not you didn't have to have a career. Your

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what your passion was could still be your career. And
that era is over in New York because it's not
an economic reality. That's a point and that that to
me is a truly sad thing. I mean, you can say, like, oh, people,
but you can live in Bushwick, Like, yeah, you live
in Bushwick. Guess should still is like more expensive than
any other city, right, you know, And you and I

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laugh about it because you're like, yeah, you're Bushwick. You're
not that far from East New York. Do you understand,
you know, if you keep going East New York, it's
not gentrified yet people. That's that's a good point. So
like the the the uh, if I could make it there,
make it anywhere sort of dream. It's it's like you
you can make it that you can, but you might
be living in Connecticut, so and so that part of

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the Eastern But but I do think at the same
time people do. They're still is always you and I'll
be back there and we'll be here and you'll be
there and you'll be like, wow, there's so much ship
happening here. It's there's there's still countless ways to to
get inspired and to be inspired, and there's you know,
New York has that and it hasn't lost that, hopefully ever,

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but it has not lost that. But yeah, but then
that what it has lost is that that access for
like creativity to go down. That's a that's a that's
a good point and a good take on that. Uh,
has New York changed other than you know that you
know the grit and the grime and the Times Square
because Times Square people talk about how Time Square changed,

(28:37):
like that wasn't a place that you would hang out
and like it wasn't dope like that was like a
that was like going to like like like a fright
night every night, like if you went there any time
of the year, like it was like, you know, like
I don't even know why I had to go get
like well, first time I had to get like a
baseball goal, I had to go to Herman's remember remember
her There was a few mormans around the Sumason ship

(29:00):
you had to go to the store and whatever. So
there was one Herman's was and I would like feared
for my life, right, I was like, Okay, my money
hidden in my sock because I do not want to
get robbed while I'm going to get my baseball glove
and Herman's and that ship was real. And then I

(29:21):
had the glove that I was like, okay, I gotta
take it out of the bag so that people like
as soon as anybody sees me walking on forty sec
Street with a Herman's bag, I'm definitely gonna get robbed, right,
But you made it back. I made it back. Glove
survived right, yeah, just like so yeah, so the whole
the whole time square of it all. I mean that
that they I think they overdid it, but I think

(29:42):
that there's pockets of it. And I think the people
in the energy of of the city hasn't changed. And
and like you said, I think the economics U are
are It's tough, man, It is tough. Like your dream
house in New York, Like you know, it could be
like a little like like a studio apartment that would
become like your dream. I was like, I'm want to
own a dream a dream apartment in New York. And
it's like it's a ship hall essentially, and in most

(30:06):
other places that you're living, and you're grateful to have it. Yeah,
and you're just grateful like I made it into this
ship box. Yeah. You being like Atlanta like a big
mansion no exactly, yeahs and real household Chi from TLC
used to live here, exactly. You know, when when did
the foreclosure did They didn't, They didn't lose their money.

(30:28):
All right, So I'm gonna switch I'm gonna switch up
and talk uh beastie boy music, hip hop and all
that stuff because I know that's uh something that I'm
excited about. And and I'll just start with this, all right,
and and I want to phrase this in the most
like respectful, humble way. So this is I'm all right,

(30:48):
well here's some set up ship you're coming. You're about
to come with some bad no Ashton Kutcher, come on out.
No it's not no. No. I would say, I think
we everybody in this room and everybody who's a fan
of the best boys, uh who I think. I don't
think how you like. I don't think anyone could say
I'm not a fan of the Beastie Boys. Like the
Beastie Boys what you guys see, But you didn't have

(31:10):
to be a fan because you grew up you know
what I mean. It's like. And actually I try to
explain this to people a lot where I say, like,
there's like plenty of people we grew up with, like
we we might not not know you, but we had
friends and comment right, but some weeks we're having the
same like we're having the same experience in terms of
like being like these white dudes growing up in Brooklyn

(31:31):
and and just it was a very exciting time and
there was a lot of music we were excited about
or whatever, and so it happened that we somehow got
obsessed with it, but so did plenty of other kids.
But we happened or whatever whatever the parts were that
came together, the drive, the meeting, the people, the the ideas,
you know how things just multiple things have to happen

(31:55):
in order for them to connect. And it happened. But
my point is that would have been it would almost
be actually weird if you were a fan, because it's
you are like an a parallel place, do you know
what you mean? So it's different we and we're all
competitive with each other to in a way that just
as do as like dudes who are in high school,

(32:16):
you're like innately competitive. Absolutely, Like I'm sure I could
spend you know, some time with my shrink and find
out why prayers to do it procreation and there's only
so many women and we want to you know exactly,
I agree as teenage boys who want to fertilize the situation,
fertilize everything, and yeah, okay, so now that has to

(32:40):
do with men's health, right, that's fertilization, healthy fertiz fertilization. Boit.
Let me just let me just let me just talk
about about this what it means to me, and and
and hopefully I can particulately what the Beast Boys mean
to some of some of the people in here. Like
I don't think you could ever find I know, you're
probably like when we first started, it's probably friend because

(33:00):
you know there's those stories about you guys getting thrown
a beard and boot off stage and when you first
first started, and is this a joke, because it's not
a joke. But when the dust settled and it was
all said and done and it's all done and said
rock and Roll Hall of Fame, what you guys did?
I was thinking today, like how do I articulate like like,

(33:21):
I think the honesty that that that the group had
the sense of humor, the taking yourself seriously but never
taking yourself too seriously, um, the eclectic nature of it,
the growth um, never being boxed in and and I think,
you know, just to say, you know, like I I

(33:41):
truly you know, and I'm a fan and and uh
um when when and I'm bringing this this you know,
everybody who who's a fan of music and a fan
of of the Beasts. With the passing of Adam Yeah,
the great m c A. You know, like it felt
like devastating because you knew intuitively without knowing, that it

(34:04):
was the end of something that was special, Like it
wasn't gonna be like a group where you know, other
groups have had people passed, Other groups have had people
where they leave and they replace it like that niche
between the three of you guys is synonymous. So it
was like when he passed, like you knew like this
was the end of something special, Like there was not
like you know, Joe Schmo was gonna come in and

(34:25):
replace them, replace him. It just like and I think
you know, so my question to to to get into
it is like, and I have to say, you know,
because of social media and Twitter and and all that stuff,
and we're exposed with how did you feel with the
outpouring of love the murals the m c A day, Um,

(34:46):
how did you feel when you realize his passing what
it meant to the world, Like, well, what did that
mean to you as somebody who this is in a
band made this is like I'm sure, I'm sure, you
just just like a brother, like a friend. It's like
some you can't articulate. You you went through so much stuff,
you grew up together, and then you did this fabulous
thing and you shared it with the world. So when

(35:07):
you saw the outpouring of love and support, Um, what
did that mean to you? Personally? Yeah, you know, it was,
it was, it was. It was very in a lot
of ways. It was. It was comforting in some ways
because I feel like, you know, it's like you love
you know, it's your best friend that you grow up with,
and and not only that, like you know, he was

(35:29):
such an amazing person and such an innovator, and I
felt like he was my older brother in so many ways. Right,
So I was crushed, you know because I and my
being crushed is because I loved him so much and
and he met so much to me and taught me
so much. But what what was helpful or gratifying was

(35:50):
then seeing like other people kind of that genuinely going
through the same thing. But you know, it's obviously not
the same, like their whatever is their own relationship, but
they have their own relations ship to him, and that
one person I guess you know that thing. It's like
that's like a cool listen lesson for like us to
like show our kids, right that one person truly can
make a difference, you know, whether it's just making art

(36:14):
or just having fun and making stupid ship or entertaining
people or really standing up for what they believe in
or all those things combined, that you really can make
this impact and that people really have this genuine relationship
um with you, you know, so and and and for me,
like walking I was like I'm in New York City

(36:34):
at the time and walking around and it's like, you know,
on the one hand, it's kind of like it was
really difficult because it's like, you know, you're walking down
and you're kind of like walking up living in Brooklyn.
I'm walking like not far from where y'all grew up, right,
Like that's right where I was living. And then it's
like you're walking down the street and people are like, oh,
that's like the guy whose friend has just died whatever.

(36:54):
But on the other hand, it's knowing that those people
had that that it meant something to them, but they
had it was special for them and that they had
a relationship and that it could be have an impact
like that. Um, I don't you know it's cool to
see that support. I guess yeah, I mean that's that's nice.

(37:15):
I I was like trepidacious to to talk. I don't know,
like but I mean I think I like, I like,
you would you just go for the elephant in the room?
Do it? No? I'm serious, like you know what I mean,
Like I think that's a good interview thinking that a
lot of people would probably you wouldn't, and you did
it in a in a personal way. All right, good

(37:36):
good good, because I just you know, like I said,
you know, like you know, like it was like it
was like damn, like you know, this ship's you know,
you just knew like without knowing, like I like, you know,
and I don't think it wasn't ever said it wasn't
ever talked about it and read anything, or you're just like, damn,
this ship, this is this is this is not this
is no more. And and then you really kind of

(37:56):
look back and listen to the music and the influence
and the uniquness and and and you know, you guys
are one third of a like it was one third
each and there was no each personality was so uh
specific and you know, and and and in a way
it's like, uh, um, you know, you know, even people

(38:16):
that are for me, like growing up with you guys,
you know, like we're like around the same age. I
think I'm forty five and and you know, and like
seeing that it's like, you know, like damn, like that
part of my life, you know. And also just in
hip hop, it's like hip hop groups, the only and
maybe I'm wrong, the only hip hop group from from
our era, from the golden era, from the platinum era,

(38:38):
from the greatest era that still performs is day La Soul.
That's it. That's all we have left. They're the only
public no but public, but public I'm sorry what I mean,
never him him rock him now and Eric B and
rock him. They don't rock anymore. They don't rock him anymore,

(38:59):
you know. And the only one that sorry so public
enemy does before. But the only one that never broke up,
um was day La is day La. They they're kind
of like I I equate them to like they're sort
of like are grateful dead, Like they keep going it's
true and thank thank goodness, um, you know, and and
and and just going like so like just not you know.

(39:20):
That's actually a good analogy too, because I was there
in their show, to their live show, like they're kind
of all encompassing, you know how they do like their
tribute hip hop part of their show. They're like the
medley of other people. I don't know they still do it,
but they did for a while, and they're as a
live routine like and may Steel comes from behind the DJ.
So you know what I mean, there's I think, uh yeah,

(39:43):
there there's not many people that are like they might
be the only lasting that's the only one, you know,
and and and and it was you guys, and and
and so you know, so so so speak to me
about that. Let me ask me. Let me ask you
about that hip hop today. You know, I read an
article like I've read things in the last week of
of younger UH artists sort of shifting on like like

(40:06):
saying like the you know, the like the I don't
call it the Golden error. I just call it the whatever,
like the old school. But I don't even call it that,
just like the good best ship, that era is overrated
and that it's you know, I mean, so for you
as a fan and a participant, as a true participant,
what do you think, like you know, Nas made the
song a few years ago, hip hop is dead and

(40:28):
every now and then I feel like a resurrec resurrestic
self resurrects itself. But I always think that the coffin
is still like they're like for because I never know
when it's gonna go down. So what are you? What
is your opinion of hip hop specifically right now? Like
do you listen to anything? Are you excited by anything?
Where's your head at with it? Are you demoralized? Am

(40:49):
I the only one that like thinks that the fucking
the day lass souls? And like does that? Am I
the only one who that bothers like? I just I
feel like sometimes like I'm a man who what bothers you?
Because it breaks my I might love like out of
like the whatever, like you know you have kids? Are
I'm listening to like the records that play on the radio?
Like you know, I've listened to more Drake than I

(41:11):
ever thought about. But no, but I don't hate not see.
I like Drake because you know what, Drake made a battle.
No one's when's the last time someone made a disc
record and made a disc record as a like a
top ten pop record. So I actually have a lot
of love for Drake coming out with a disc record
what you call a record or like, no, come on,

(41:33):
no I hit him with the pre nup. I mean
you are he didn't tread lightly. No, he did it
and it wasn't hit Yeah, no, I I the world
tour or your girls tour like these are not soft
when this real top that's hard hitting ship. I'm just saying, glad,

(41:53):
you know somebody, come on, come on, come and me
with a record like that, I don't know what I
been a beast. He's bad. Did you guys ever do
it this time? Hello? There? Well no, we never did
we We didn't really do it. There was some um
yeah it was no. No, hit him with the prenup?

(42:15):
Is your wife's tour right right? Right right? All right?
So in general, so we're don't stand with so not.
So there's moments that to me, happened in hip hop
like that like that, you know what, I'm a genuine
fan of, you know, I mean there's this stuff like
i'd love to see, like Kanye finally decided to release
a new record, and I hope it's great because I

(42:35):
feel like, you know, he's one of the only ones
who's like he's thrown away whatever an album a half
of material already because he's one of the only people
out there actually not alone in hip hop. It could
be I think just a music period, who's willing to
be like, you know what, I'm gonna have a high
enough standard that I don't care. I'm just gonna throw

(42:56):
this away. I don't care that I'm missing out on
what the money is, right, I'm just gonna throw it,
throw it away because it's not doesn't feel right to me.
And it's not that many people in music period that
are committed to the art they're willing to do that.
But do you think that like well, speaking of like
like the sound of it, like and and then I

(43:18):
want to ask you about sampling and how I feel
like the crackdown on sampling, and you guys were part
of it, and of course BIZ was a part of it.
And then you know, the rest of the artists caught
on to the fact that yo, I want to get
paid off of this ship like the sound. Like for me,
a big thing that's changed is the is the where's
the next Rick Rubin, Where's the next cue tip? Where's

(43:39):
the next large professor, where's the next premier? Where like
the sound the production of it is is is first
and foremost that because anybody can make beats um and
that's great in a lot of ways, just like anybody
can make movies now, like you know, you could, you know,
if you have a point of view and you you
have aspirations, you have an iPhone, you could literally like
one day, I think there was a film like a

(43:59):
few years ago, like a short film that won the
Academy Awards, shot on iPhones, and I think that's great.
But the musicality of hip hop is is it was
born and bred on sampling. You know, it was taking
what we don't have and and you know, artistically crafting
it into something you know that even better and more dynamic.

(44:20):
So like for me, like the biggest thing aside from
just I just feel like anyone could be a rapper,
and I think that that's great for anyone. But then
there should be like there should be the Anyone League
and then the Pro League, like it's like any you know,
there's like there should be some sort of like you
can't just get into the Pro League. You gotta like
go to the NBA combine or something like we gotta
see how high you could jump before you just start

(44:40):
becoming summer pro league. And then you know, it's cool,
we could go put the park and play three on three,
But then the big boys come. I'm gonna sit on
the side and watch, And I think that hip hop
has lost that sort of like you know, the big
boys coming to watch. So my my question, so what
do you think has changed? Do you think it has
to do with that fucking kid who created Napster and
that everything's free? No, it's true because that guy crushed

(45:03):
the music business, the napster of it all, the free
music of it all, in the instantaneousness of it all,
I think changes. So in general, what do you miss
about hip hop? What are you excited about hip hop
these days? All right, so seven minutes to get that curst?
First off, that was like that was questions one. Speak

(45:25):
on it like I'm sweating over here. Have somewhat relax,
taking knee, whatever you gotta do. Just go ahead, Mike,
I'm trying to get you to talk. You're that guy? No, No,
So all right, So first of all, I think like
in terms of the sampling basis of hip hop, I
actually think it's I say it a slightly different because

(45:46):
I think that hip hop was based on taking whatever
it was that like worked because before there was sampling,
you had a DJ, so you had this essentially you
had a guy in a park with two turntables, and
so it was like it didn't matter where the music
came from. It could be Aerosmith, it could be um War,
it could be you know, Donnie Hathaway, it could be

(46:09):
Jazz Crusaders. It didn't matter. Like hip hop didn't have,
Like to me, that's one of the most amazing things
I think with hip hop. It didn't have like, it
didn't literally didn't see race because it was equal opportunity.
It would just prey upon. A DJ has to prey
upon everything that would move. Like Bambardo was one of
the best DJs I ever saw play live because he

(46:30):
would mix in crazy ship that should never have worked,
like what like talk about it. Like literally I remember
being at the Rocks. He's like a kid, I was
a fucking kid, and he would play like, uh, Tony Basil, oh, Mickey,
You're so fine. It was like this pop this like
glossy pop record and he somebody would make it work
and he mixed it into like a soul sonic force

(46:50):
record and then mix that into like incredible bongo band
and mix that. You know, he makes it. He made
it all work. And but it's because of this. There
was no it wasn't like a self conscious thing like oh,
I'm gonna, you know, funk with people's heads and go
with here, And it was just he just thought he genuinely,
in his whole all of his cells, he believed those
records were equally dope, you know, as simple as that,

(47:13):
there was equally funky to him, and and he used
them all equally. And that's how hip hop is it.
You'll use that. And so the basis at one time
we went from DJs to then tech. You know, I
always feel like we could go through our records and
you could go through the history of me of hip hop,
and it's always informed somewhat by the technology that's available. Right,

(47:35):
So we went you go from like having turntables too,
then all of a sudden you can sample like a
little bit, and then you can said, that's where I
think the explosion that happened in sampling was all of
a sudden we realized and then like pe with the bomb,
Squad with Hagg Shockley with day Law when they made
three ft High and Rising is all a sudden like
you could buy like affordable like s nine hundred sampler

(47:56):
emacs like you had. There was a technology where you
could actually sample a bar of music and that was huge.
So all of a sudden, that technology enabled all this
creativity to jump to jump off from that. And people
like in those cases in Nation of like Nation of millions,

(48:17):
three ft High and Rising um criminal minded? You know
these with them what now are incredible? Classic? Im I
don't even call them classic hip hop albums. I think
there's classic albums classic. Yeah, like you're gonna look back
at like Americans probably won't do it, but people like
in white people of France are gonna look back and

(48:37):
be like, oh see hip hops, this is the only
American just only doing anything is not shipped in America
has given us. But that was a bad friendship. Probably
do baden accent. Now, keep going, this is what This
is what I care. This is what the people want
to hear. Keep talking a ship anyway, this is what

(48:58):
people want to hear, not a French people. I got
a lot of love from the French people French friends
and they're gonna be mad at me. You did a
great accent. It was good. Um let me ask technology
enables it and then you're right, like now you can
make movies and you make a whole record on your

(49:20):
phone and whatever, and so that that's where um things are.
And then I do think there's the part of it
was funny, like I remember being really I read one
time like when we were you're like making like check
your head or something like, you know, this is still
when you needed to like to make to edit a video,
you still need to have like decks and you know

(49:41):
these before like the film the Freaking of the know
that tape the tape. Yeah, that's not what I was
looking for. But yeah, that doesn't sound very convincing. Term
when you were editing. When you were you had like

(50:02):
video decks there and you had like the term anyway
all this like equipment and actually I had to give
you out. Yak was like the techno Whiz and we
used to that was our one of our nicknames for
him was Techno Whiz because he could hook any shipped up.
He was just like that kid like literally when he
was a kid growing up in Brooklyn, heights. He he
literally knew how to build bombs. Like he I'm probably

(50:23):
not supposed to say it's probably security risk, but but no,
he you know, he's just like a kid like he
reads something and then like he could build it and
and then so yeah, I remember like when we're we're
making our own videos and he like had a whole
you know whatever, tape to tape whatever the technical term.
He had a whole set up that he knew how

(50:45):
to work or whatever. We were recording stuff and we
didn't know how to he'd be, oh, no, you just
do you just don't plug, and you get the adapter
of this. But anyway, my point is now when you're
talking about they're not they're being the big Boy League
and uh, you know and Division one in Division three
or whatever you want to call it, it's like that's

(51:08):
I remember when we were making Check your Head, there
was some quote from like Francis Ford Coppola where he
was like it was like video cameras were the big thing,
and he's like, you know, the world's gonna change because
he's like, now some kids are gonna come out and
he's it's gonna be a revolution because he's gonna create
an incredible movie and he doesn't need to get you know,
financing or anything. He's just gonna do it on his thing.

(51:28):
But then, and so I kind of thought like, Wow,
this is just gonna be amazing, Like this is gonna
be really profound. But actually what happened. What happened was
I think now you have it where everybody can make
a record, everybody can make a movie. And I don't
know why, but somehow instead of it being this like

(51:49):
the revolutionary thing, it's more like you got just a
lot of stuff that isn't as great coming out and
you still have great ship. It's who did in a sense,
because you've got a lot of other stuff competing for
your ears with it or whatever, and you could just

(52:09):
put it right out there, which is good. Like so
if you haven't bad, I think it's right put it out,
and then if it's not good, you could just put
another one out the next day, which really kind of
takes away from it. You put out a this record
is not good, You're just that's saying. Then you're dissing yourself.
Then you've just crushed yourself. I feel like Meek Mill
went wrong. Just to go back to Meek Mill is
that Drake hit him. Drake Drake hit him with the

(52:31):
back to back right, and that he said back to
back right, back to back. Say back to back now,
Meek Mill, like say you first pitch you swing, you miss, Okay,
next day, come with the back to back like and
then everybody will forget about the pitch you missed. That's
where I think he funked up. And he should have
called Mike Rap, because Mike Rap would have been like,
get your ship together today, get your coffee, and come
back the next day and no one cares that your

(52:53):
first one was whack. He should That's what I would
have say, no, no, no, he's and then you can
then to come by heat. I think he just I
don't know. I think too many people get everybody. Everybody's
felt like, okay, Meek Mills is done. Now. He should
have came back. He could have came back the next
day with that ship, and he didn't. And that's why
I think he went past. Now. He got hit with

(53:14):
the pre nup. He got hit with the pre nup.
He got hit hard, all right. So the instantaneousness. Let
me ask you a question, Meek Mill, we got beef
with Meek Mill, Drake. Everybody's coming for giving love to Drake.
We're giving love to Drake, and I'm saying for next
time for Meek Mill, just swing again. Fuck it, you
missed the first pitch, No one's looking. Just swing again.

(53:36):
You could just put it out fifteen seconds on Instagram.
You could just free style blah blah blah blah blah
and then you're good. But he didn't. You let me
ask you a question. So, speaking about the the instantaneousness
and the Instagram of it all, when was the first
time you heard yourself on the radio and what was
that moment and that that that that mountaintop moment, Like

(53:56):
for you, do you remember the first time you heard
yourself on the radio and what was it? And just
break it down to me. Well, I do, And it's
not that it was it's more like a mole hill
wasn't really a mountaintop. But no, it was before when
we were we were a hardcore band, before we were
a hip hop group or a rap group. Yes, we

(54:17):
we were like punk rock kids from New York City.
And then we made a hardcore seven inch called pollywog
stu e P. And then before it even came out.
There was like an n y U. There was a
show like an Hour a week or whatever that that
um played hard like this one dude, Tim Summers went

(54:37):
to n y U and he played hardcore and he
yelled like a fucking crazy person like that was whatever anyway,
and he played before she came out. He played a song.
I think it's called a grade on Mojori played a
song on his show, and I would listen to the
show every week, the same way that I then went
on to listen to mixed like that. I listened to

(54:58):
like um Zulu Beat Show a week or Mr Magic
Mr Magic or you know Red Alert whatever how you
listen to those shows every week. But before I would
listen to the rap shows every week, I was listening
to the hardcore show. And so he played our song
and I was like what, you know, like I almost
lost it in my bedroom like listening like I was
like what, But it's funny because it's you know, it's

(55:20):
probably all of like twelve people literally right that heard it,
literally that listened to that. But did you know it
was coming? Did you hear? Like did you know that
the radio station had the record? No? I didn't I
mean he got it. It turned out from so that
really is a mole Hill moment, like you just like
it's like kind of just like that. But but it was,
but it was, it was both. It was a mountain

(55:41):
animal five because it was it was probably all of
twelve people. Didn't change our world, It didn't change our
relationship as a band to anybody, didn't change who we were.
But for me, it was a big time deal, a
big time ship, you know like that to have that happen.
And then what about beast music? When was the first
your best music on the radio? No, that that was

(56:02):
PC Boys, but then when we were hardcore band. But
but but this was this was with another It was four.
It was four pop was just three of you. There
were four of us because it was it was Yeah,
m c A myself was before ad Rock was in
the band. So yeah, m c A myself, Uh, the
drummer of this girl, Kate Shellenbach and from Lucius Jackson

(56:23):
thank you, um and uh John Barry played guitar. So
that was the group then and then eventually John left
and Adam joined and then it just became the three
of us whatever. But yeah, and I don't remember trying
to remember like with hip hop like hearing, I just

(56:44):
remember like hold it now that being like I couldn't
believe that I would actually hear like a car driving by.
Like I don't remember like a specific like radio show
or anything hearing it, but I remember that was a
bug out for me, like walking around like hot New
York City when you're just walking around and like everybody
has their you know, windows open and they're blasting music

(57:06):
and hearing Hold it now as one of those records,
you know, like I mean, I don't know if it
was like really on blast the way like you know,
Public Enemy, Bring the Noise or run DMC Sucker MCS,
but you know what I mean, there's certain summer records
that you hear, but you know, holding out a little
bit had that had like a kind of moment like that,

(57:26):
And so that was. That was pretty wild. That's a
good uh, that's that's a mountain to Yeah. No, that
was And then to be like that kid that I'm
just walking around New York City aimlessly like how at
the time, I don't know, e eighteen or nineteen, so
you know, you're you know, and you're just like meeting
up with your friends to sit on a stoop and like,
what do we do? Okay, we're gonna get a beer

(57:47):
the bodega and you sit on the stree. You sit
on the stoope and have your beer and then you're like, okay,
what do we do now? And they're playing your ship,
you know, but then they're playing your ship. Right, Yeah,
that's a that's a that's a goose bump moment. All right,
I'm a rattled. I guess weird. In film, you don't
really get it's different hunt you don't really that well.

(58:08):
I guess in film you you get it when the
first time, the first time you I saw myself like
on television, I was like, oh ship. And then the
first time I saw a movie that I was in
with a group of people, was like, oh shit, you know,
like you know, it was the same same type of thing.
It's like, you know, somebody had saw a film that
I was in before I had seen it and came

(58:29):
up to me, and I was like, they I saw
you in this movie. Like you're like, you know, you think,
like you know, you're gonna be rich the next day,
like you know, I'm famous. But it didn't work out
that way, and here I am doing the Iron wrap
P podcast. It hasn't happened, but the point is is
that it felt good in nineteen Listen, you just baby
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me let me rattle up questions and then I'm gonna
let people ask questions. And I'm all right, what what song?
What BC song did you hate to perform that you
had to perform at every beast Boy show. Was there
one song that you were like fuck or that as

(59:54):
a group, you guys, all right, you thought about not
performing and you're like, all right, but we gotta do it.
What was the one sort of okay, well, you know,
we gotta do it. I just remember specifically, it's I'm
kind of doing the thing where you answer the question
by not answering the question. But no, there was so
brass Monkey, which is still like very I remember we

(01:00:16):
we like it, had stopped playing the song for a
while because we're just like, this is just stupid. It's
about a drink. We don't We're like, who we were
like grown people, we don't drink. We drank that when
we were like eighteen, Like what are we doing. We
can't touring around the world talking about drinking. Brass Monkey
is growing ass dudes, Like it's bad luck. But then

(01:00:39):
we're like, we're in We're in Miami. I was talking
with a friend about this recently because he was there
and we're in Miami. We're like, okay, Miami, like basically
like like this Brass Monkey is definitely the biggest record
in history in Miami. We just sort of decided this
in our minds, like I don't I don't know. There
was no there was no data to support this. We
had decided at that and so we're like, we're definitely

(01:01:02):
we're gonna play the song tonight, fuck it because this
ship is We're just gonna kill they need. This is
the Miami anthem, right, they live for this ship, right.
And then we played it and they were kind of
like a school like they were like and not only that,
we basically it was a struggle. We barely remember. I

(01:01:23):
think we forgot more words than we remember. We hadn't
done it so long. But then then actually did still
make it made a comeback though later on we got
more competent with it. We learned then we were like,
all right, we're gonna learn this ship and we're gonna
make it work. It was like you know what things
when you're a performer, like and and something doesn't quite
work like you probably if any rational person would turn

(01:01:44):
their back on and be like, all right, that didn't work,
I'm gonna do something else, but I feel like it's
a performer. There's something where you're just like, no, I'm
gonna you just keep you keep going back to it
you locked and loading. We're like, we're gonna all right,
this is definitely it's gonna next city, when we get
to Baltimore, this is gonna blow blow the fun up.

(01:02:06):
And you kept going, we did no, and then it
came around. I'm telling you that eventually it worked alright,
mixed Master Mike dialed that ship in mixed in some
Planet rock or some months and I was gonna ask
you that, and like, eventually it killed you. Guys would
perform and rock under other beats, which I don't understand
why more people don't do so, Like when you're performing
slow and low, you would take whatever track and rock under.

(01:02:29):
It was that because you get bored of the songs.
To get to make it fresh for the fans, make
it exciting, you know what I'm talking about. For that,
it was definitely we wanted wanted to make it fresh, right,
And that's why we loved having Mike is our DJ,
and actually made a switch up to have Mike be
r DJ because he was incredible and incredibly talented. He
would make it. He'd make it more exciting for us,

(01:02:52):
which I think then in turn hopefully made it more
exciting for the audience to watch, you know what I mean,
because we'd be excited. It's not like it's not like
we're just standing like, okay, we're here in the instrumental
for the one millionth time of Paul Revere. He's like
making something happened, so you know, it's keeping whatever. We

(01:03:13):
have to literally be on our toes, on our you know,
you wouldn't know what beat was coming. No, we had
to be on your He would keep us on game,
you know what I mean by doing that? Which I think, Yeah,
all right, here's a question in your prime m c A,
Mike d ad Rock are going to battle each other?
Who wins the battle? Out of the three? You like,

(01:03:33):
who is the best just lyricists freestyle? Like if you
guys are gonna battle each other? Yeah, no, I agree,
I think m c A. Probably I don't know who
said that, but I'm gonna agree because he had like
Ad Rock and I could right certainly as well as him,
but he had you know, he was he was like
a better m c I'm gonna say, Okay, he was

(01:03:55):
a better like he would like when he like I remember,
out of the three of us, like in the very beginning,
when we were just memorized every record. He was a
guy who could really he could nail it every time,
like kid, memorize that record and really like nail it.
Adam and I would memorize a record and be able
to pull it off, but he would kind of next
level it. Okay, the end of the world comes and

(01:04:18):
you're able to leave one Beasti Boy record behind for
the next civilization? Which one? You can only leave one?
And you want that? You want? Which? Which record? Collectively?
Would you like? Were? You can answer yourself, but it
doesn't matter. But you you just saying, listen, the end
of the world, they say you get to leave one
fucking Beastly Boy record for the next group of people.
I don't care your choice and your im I want

(01:04:41):
to leave like somebody else's. I want somebody to get
to that all. I'm gonna get to that next. But
I'm just saying. So the question is here is like this,
what would you say instead of the end of the
world got sad, things got dark, I'm sorry, we're gonna
get We're gonna bring it back up. What would you
say is the quintessential Beastly Boy record or what would
you say the people's choice favorite Beastie Boyd record. I

(01:05:04):
know it's like me to answer for the people. See,
I'm not answering for the people. People can answer for themselves.
Fair enough, you invited them here, fair enough. I'll get
to the people. People gonna come in a second. You
are gonna be deserted on a desert island for the
rest of your life, and you get to bring five
records of your choice. What records they are? Any genre

(01:05:27):
you're you're you get. These are the five albums you
get to listen to for the rest of your life.
And these five only go damn, this is just tough, dude,
Only five, just five? Listen, listen, you got five? Most
people I do three. But it's because I like I
said five. All right, I'll go off the top of
my head. I'm gonna say, uh slying a family stone

(01:05:50):
to fresh Fresh album. Okay, that's one. Okay, I'm at one.
If you do it quick, I'll give you six. Is
like a cherry on top. It's tough. But see, like
I gotta call pop and I'm trying to think, like
what record like you need to keep it e colectic.
It's the rest of your life. No, that's what I'm saying,
but I have to have one of the records has
to be a rap album, absolutely no doubt. So I

(01:06:10):
mean yeah, no, I mean reasonable doubt. I'll get tired
of Okay, I guess I'll go now we have beef
with jay Z. So we just shipped on jay Z.
I'm not I just I just that. I'm just saying
I don't want that nominated. You brought it again and
you were like, no, I'm not bringing this ship. I'm
gonna get tired of it after a week. I did

(01:06:32):
have four d eighty million dollars more than Mike D
but he did nominate me in his top five record
So I feel pretty good. Okay. That's how that's when
jay Z's out, He's thinking, okay, even though he's gone,
but I want to somehow take the fall for it,
thinking like fucking rapp Aple. He's always talking shit. He's
gonna get mad at me, I even though Okay, So,
so we've got fly to the family Stone. I don't
know if Mike, if you don't get to this, we're

(01:06:53):
not gonna get the fucking cherry on top. Okay, so
you've sly the ferry. So I'll do one wanted to do. Fine,
you want to force this just like that, And I'm
gonna do pe Nation of Millions. Okay, that's two. You
know you gonna have a hip hop record in there. Um,
I'm gonna say, I'm gonna start class the Clash London Calling. Okay,

(01:07:15):
um yeah, because I love that record growing up and
I still love it to this day. Okay, three, Um, ship,
I need to take a break out. I'll do one.
I'll do one. I'll do one, I'll do I'll say
I'll start with the record. I'll say John Coltrane, I'll
love Supreme because it's gonna be fucked up on that island.
You're gonna need something like all right, So that's what

(01:07:35):
i'm gonna say. Actually, Miles Davis on the corner for you,
because I needn't need some different the jazzy keep it.
The island's gonna be only you're gonna need to dance
and ship because your mind's gonna be all funked up.
You're not gonna have a volleyball. Tom Hank's gonna be
ain't gonna be around, all right. So I said Love Supreme,
and then I'll say Midnight Marauders, You're on the cover

(01:07:56):
art flour all right, so that's that's two for me.
I'll do, I'll do, I'll do. Uh songs in the
Key of Life for three case, that's three. So now
it's three and you got four one more for you.
Um see, that's tough because that should that you said
the Sons of the Key. I feel like, actually the
whole all the the Stevie solo albums, like Music on

(01:08:18):
my Mind inter visions that whole. Pick it's the longest album,
right well, no, I get that, but I feel like,
but it's the ones that resonate more with me are
Music on my Mind? Um picked the forty two minute album.
I picked the you know, the sixty seven minute I'm
not but I'm not practical, dude, I'm romantic. I fall

(01:08:41):
in love with the record. You know, I'm not arguing.
I just want to get that questions, Like, I got
a lot of questions here. The people want to ask you.
So you got four one more? So Sweet Songs the
Key of Life. You know what, I'm gonna go real
monkey rench right now. Ok just just sit the funk
down right now, Okay, Bob Dylan Highway sixty one revisited. Okay,

(01:09:01):
this is a short record. That short records. Fine, I
think it's only like thirty six minutes long. That's that's
your five records. And that's why that's all I wanted.
You want to do one more? Just feel like is
there one more? One more? You can get one more
scoop ice cream and and one more, one more and
then I'm gonna pose this question to you while you're

(01:09:21):
thinking of that. Is it true of one of you?
You know, because it's gonna be an island, it's gotta
be Bob Marley and the Whalers catch a fire. Okay,
then smart you know I'm gonna take that one to
the island. You know, it just works for having having
wine and answer. You need the absolutely that that's a
smart choice. Is it true that either you or one

(01:09:45):
of the PCs or producers um got into it trying
to clear Bob Dylan song for Paul's boutique. Maybe I
may not. It's a rumor. This is one of the
questions that when I pose it to Twitter, someone asked
that question, do you know this story is true? Is
it not true? Was there a clearance a sample clearance
beef with Bob Dylan? And was there an actual conversation

(01:10:06):
with Bob Dylan. Um, and it would be a good stories. See.
I feel bad if I you know, But no, there
was There was not a beef, and I forget how
he did we did clear the sample, and I forget
was there a conversation without? No, I had a different
I met Bob Dylan once in my life and he
we were like we were making the Paul's Critique albums

(01:10:29):
even before the record that we sampled him, and we
went to this like it was the first time in
our lives. We went to like a crazy celebrity party.
It was Dolly Parton's Christmas party. What year was this
nineteen eighty eight, I'm gonna say, or eighty yeah, eighty eight?
Probably did you instagram making myself mad? Old? That's fun? Anyway,

(01:10:49):
Who was there? Bob Dylan's in the corner, and so
I'm like, I'm a big I am a big Bob
Dylan fansy. I'm like, I gotta go over and say
what's up? So I go over there and he meets
someone introduces me. He meets He's like, it's a kid, like,
how what are you good for? I'm like, what am
I good for? I don't know. What do you mean?

(01:11:11):
He's like, you know, tickets, how many tickets? I'm like,
I don't know. Like he's like, well, if you play,
how many people come and show up? Like just look
at me, Like I'm a real dumbass, which I probably. Anyway,
he had this whole idea he wanted to do a
pro smoking benefit for cigarettes, like at the time, because
are you serious, it's the beginning of like when cigarettes

(01:11:33):
were kind of getting outlawed in California. Okay, okay, you know,
and so I mean he was really ahead of his time. Honestly, Um,
I don't think it ever got off the ground. No, no, no,
that's what we do. Do you remember who else? Is
there a couple other people that that were at this party? Likeline,

(01:11:53):
I walked by, like, there's some dude playing piano in
the party, and it was it was Bert Bert fucking
Backreck playing playing Piano's this in l Are, New York
and Beverly Hills. That's what's up? I like that? I like, no,
it was, Yeah, that was some real Beverly Hills ship.
When when I say, I'm just right, because we're getting
close to being out of time, Although you know, I

(01:12:14):
think I could keep on going. I have so many
questions for you, Mike. When I say, uh, craziest tour story,
what's the first thing that comes to your mind of
the craziest tour story? Uh, that you saw firsthand or experience,
or that you might have been the ringleader of. Why
am I getting out? I'm just no, I didn't know. Listen, listen,

(01:12:38):
it's the statue of limitations is up, Mike. You're fradulating falsifications. No,
you're good, You're good, You're good, Think you're fine. Don't worry,
don't worry, don't worry. I'm checked with the lawyers. You're
my attorney. Now, I got you. So when I say,
when I say craziest tour story, what's the first one
that pops up into your head? Because you guys were
doing it when it was like you could do ship like.

(01:13:00):
There wasn't surveillance cameras, there wasn't cell phones, like you
could really get fucking like you could really go like
rock and roll, but it was hip hop. So what's
the first thing that comes on your mind. I'm not
even gonna take this bait. This is just you that
are people disappointed by that? No, I mean, you had
to have been asked that. That's not that's not even
a great questions a lot of al right, I'll move on,

(01:13:24):
all right, you want to answer it. No, not really.
I mean there's a lot of ship that but I
think you actually honed it on right, it's shore. I
didn't think about it that way, like you really didn't
have Now it's like whatever you but actually similar to that,
you know what, one of the craziest things that did
happen to us was just and it wasn't It was

(01:13:45):
interesting because we there was there was stuff that did happen,
and then there was stuff how we would talk about
what had happened, and we had these things. We were
on tour in here in the States, and then these
um British journalists were coming as we were about to
go tour your up with Rundy m C. And so
these British journalists come to like, you know, do their
pieces that are gonna come out in advance of like

(01:14:07):
when we go on tour there, and so we had
like the crazy ship that was happening, and we were
we were playing in the South at the time, and
we're like literally we had towns we were trying to
ban us from going there. So I mean, I know
that's not like it like you wanted some crazy thing
about filling the like the bathroom up with water all

(01:14:28):
the way and whatever. But um, but but that was like,
you know, it's like more surreal. And did the bathroom
just say a public enemy? Was nobody? Actually? I mean
it kind of only happened, but we tried to do it. No,

(01:14:49):
we but that's what I mean. We kind of turned
it into like a bigger story. That's what happened. Story
I got to be a little bit bigger reality. The
reality is one thing and then okay, legend is another.
Oh so you guys anyway, But that's why I say
it became surreal because we ended up in the South
and literally not being being told like well you can't

(01:15:09):
perform here or whatever because based on ship that we
had done. And then there were like these journalists there
and then they reported that all back and then it
was like by the time we got to England was
like the biggest thing. So it was good for business.
Ever was actually bad. It was good. It was bad
good bad not bad meaning bad but bad meaning bad yeah. Bad. Yeah,

(01:15:32):
it kind of turned into bad being bad yeah, alright, alright,
that's the script, you know, just flipped on us like that.
That's fair enough. Um, if if on this island that
you're on, you only get to bring one of these
tougher than leather or cross groove, crush groove, okay, fair
enough is I don't know? Yeah, crush group. I think

(01:15:52):
I could watch before I could watch Okay, no, no
disrespect other one, no disrespect. What was it like for you?
And then when those movies came out? You like, because
you were from New York, you love hip hop, but
then you were actually also you were probably already in
the acting game, right, I wasn't in the acting game.

(01:16:14):
I wasn't in the acting game. No, not because I
wasn't in the acting game. What years did those come out? Like? Eighties?
Was early? Like eight? Yeah, I feel like eighties six six,
And I wasn't ship. I was in the Hoop Dreams game.
I thought I was gonna be the NBA, right yeah,
I was like, you know, like I'm gonna be the
next Larry Bird game. That was my fucking game. And

(01:16:34):
that didn't happen, didn't even come close to happen. No,
But that's how I conder That's how I first heard
of you, because everybody would be like, oh, yeah, no,
there's just kid Mike records. Was they were talking about,
uh Pete nice right, you know, Oh there's a kid
who plays over at Hillary and I think it was
you yea, And they're like, oh no, he's he's got

(01:16:56):
he's legit fucking you know how the story can get
big or as it goes along. That was move with
the Basketball all right, No, but but you know, I
haven't watched those them, but I know what one of
them because I'm obsessed the Treacherous three Coolmo D because
you know we're talking about the battles. I'm obsessed with

(01:17:16):
trying to make a short film out of when Coolmo
D battled Busy Be And that would be incredible recreating that. Okay,
this is the obligatory question I have to ask any
any rapper and any m C top five m C
s if you had to say, you know, I know
it's interchangeable, it could change, you know, in an hour
from now. So right now, if you had to say

(01:17:36):
the top five and not in any order, just the
top five, who would you say just as MC like,
not as necessarily as a record maker, but just as
an m C exact massive and why you're at it, like,
is there a difference between being an m C and
a rapper? You you know, like last time, but I'm
just gonna go I guess I'm gonna go more by rappings.

(01:17:56):
I feel like MC is that's where you getting to,
like say the como d B spe thing busy Bee
is not a great rapper, but he's an incredible m
C right because in that battle he sustains because he's
in a sense of he's actually the superior entertainer. Komo
d is the better rapper in the battle. He's the better,

(01:18:17):
he's the better host with the most, he's the better
like keeping the party moving. And then because to me,
as as a rapper, slays him, destroyed him, destroys him
on that and to me that's bobo shit on hold.
He wrecks him and in his face. That's why to me,
that's the best battle. Because see that's what maybe I think,

(01:18:39):
see like Drake Meat Mills, Las Vegas, get the check
one night, one night only, whoever, whoever, whoever keeps the
rocking walks away with that bag of cash. The thing
with me, we're the promoters. We're putting the offer that ship.
Let's do it. That's that's what I'm talking. I know
we don't have the money to put find the fucking money.

(01:19:01):
We'll find him money, Tray, we got you. But just
just to just to end the reason why I think
that battle is the the quintessential battle and the big
bang theory of battles is because busy Bee didn't know
what was coming at him. And they're they're up on stage,
they're rhyming, and then Kumo D Like it's like Busy
Bee was doing like, you know, jumping Jackson, Kumo D

(01:19:22):
came and did some tae kwon do shi and like
he's like, what the funk is that right in his face?
And that was the end of that. So okay, top
five m c s want me go first, and then
you could go one. No, no, I got you got
these all right. I gotta say, rock him just because
those records came out and I got a pure MC
level like he was able to sustain as a solo

(01:19:42):
m C on a record like I feel like nobody
before him had. Um, I'm gonna I have to say now,
I'm gonna you know, even though he's got four eight
four million dollars more than me. I'm gonna say jay
Z you know, because he's five, he's and he's just
get million dollars by by being not good. Yeah, I

(01:20:03):
don't know really where I came up with my figure,
my financial data, but it's good. I don't Yeah, I
don't know what Forbes says, but it's he's got a
lot more money than you, and he's got even more
money than me. He's got a lot of money. But
the reality is you don't get to be the top

(01:20:23):
of the top in something that's so special and so
unique by you know, just you know, having a pretty face,
which he doesn't no disrespect, I'm not no, I'm just
saying it's not He's not up there, you know, like
you know he he's that guy. He's the fucking dude.
He's the Jordan's recording. But if I'm gonna say j
then I kind of feel like I have to say Biggie,

(01:20:45):
because then if Jay's a Jordan's then it's like bigg
He's like Oscar Roberts. I don't know what where is no,
because he's not you know what I mean, it's more fundamental.
But he had hip hop, but but J is fun,
you know what I mean? He was fundamental to like
some of the evolution of the game, but not I

(01:21:06):
don't know. Okay, so you got Biggie Jay Z Rock Kim.
We got two more and it's interchangeable. Don't feel guilty
on the car right home, No, because it's inevitable in
the car. I don't even like ship. Why didn't I say,
you know, like you're gonna leave somebody out and then
we're gonna have more beat. I love Bust of Rhymes,
but I'm not gonna say Buster. I know Buster, like

(01:21:26):
your body, Bust is incredible, But I just I don't know.
He's pretty fucking overlooked as far as like you. That's
a good overlooked, you know what I'm saying that most
people wouldn't put him in their top five. And when
you when you see his catalog and his rhyme styles
and and the different flows that he's had over the years,
and his live performance, when you hear all those live

(01:21:48):
flows done and you can hear every word, You're like,
this motherfucker is really good, really really really good. So
I don't argue with Bust of Rhymes. Are you gonna
put him on your list him, I'm hondering and palms
considering him, weighing my options. You know that's four, Um,
that's four. You gotta hit me with a cover and

(01:22:09):
hit me with the prenup. I'll go nasty, nas. I'm
gonna try to go different than your list. Nas. You
gotta go nas see see, I see, that's what I
didn't think of. Nothing like that. Cass One was weighing
caress one, but then it's the body. But it's almost
But it's more like with karras One. He was a
great record maker, like and I'm not faulting him at

(01:22:29):
all as an MC, but it wasn't like his achievement
was based on what he said, not necessarily how he
said it. You know, rock him fish is my favorite
dish what like you know what I mean, But it's
he sold the ship out of his lyric absolutely. Ll
cool Ja gets forgotten. No, I was. I'm just as

(01:22:51):
far as the discussion. I mean, LLL you were around
for that and the death. I mean, l L was
a fucking I mean, actually I would even go I'm
trying to if anybody wants to show I want to
go real left field here. What about Ray Kwon? He's
you know, you know what. But I had to put
Ghosts maybe before I put Yeah, I have to put

(01:23:13):
Ghosts one woo. Yeah, I know because I put him on.
But then i'd like, I took him off the board
and I put because if there's one Cuban Links is dope,
but liquid Swords. If I had to pick one who
solo album, you cannot enter the thirty six chambers chambers

(01:23:36):
for sure. Anybody's gonna pick, you know, but anyway we're
getting this is awesome, geeked out ship, this is wait,
this is boring anyone any is everybody good? We've alienated?
All right, I'm gonna let the people you could come
up to that Mike um ask a question, have it answered,
and and uh you know, and we could we could,

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forgot what you hold. I gotta like run DMC group.
I can't say them, but they were the you know,
probably the most inspiring group to me personally in US
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your answered because you already mentioned it. You just spoke
on thirty six Chambers, Midnight Marauders and thirty six Chambers
came out on this date. In which is a better album?
And why ship better album? That's a hard question. It

(01:25:44):
was ago and they really both came out of the
same day. Can you believe that? Radically different records? So
the energy is so different, Like one record was like
you put it on and people just started would punch
somebody in the face. The other theany like dance around
and have a good time. Really, what do you what
do you want to do? That's a tough question. Valid

(01:26:07):
expressions of energy, extremely valid. That's that's a hard question. Answer,
that's that's a tough question. That's a tough I mean,
like I agree that that's like really picking. Uh, that's
a tough question. The energy is very different. Um, the
craftsmanship is impeccable. The production, See that's the thing, the

(01:26:27):
production on those albums. So I feel stupid, Well, now
you know what I almost put and in the thirty
six Chambers could almost be a top five album of
all time, But I feel like I burned out on it.
On the desert island, because that wouldn't the whole time.
I'm not looking like to go run around the island
like Glan ain't nothing to fund. No, that's that's a
good point. But that's a couple of those moments. But no,

(01:26:49):
you know, and then then there's some radical production. Any
other questions, what's your name? Please, Mike Young, how you doing? Okay?
Questions getting his drink on, he's got a question, he's
got like three slow sipping Uh, Mike Dy, what was
the was there one transitional moment in your career where
you knew, oh shit, everything is changing, Like what was

(01:27:10):
the one moment for the beastis when you just knew,
oh we're on a trajectory and it's not stopping. Was
there one moment um? Good question? You know, it's probably
probably like what I was speaking on earlier. I think
like when when we would hear there was something about
holding now, like there were other moments we had like that,
but but when holding out happened, then it was like real,

(01:27:32):
like like all of a sudden, like there were cars
in our town blasting and ship driving by us, not
knowing who we were, because at that time there weren't
you know, you wouldn't necessarily you didn't like have a
video for every song. You didn't have Like the twelve
InChI came out was just like a black label deaf
jam twelve ins. People didn't know who we looked like

(01:27:53):
or anything, but we knew who. We knew it was us,
you know, Okay, that's good, that's a that's the then
we you know, we were like like like we were
like Eric b as soon as he made money, like
showed up in like a Rolls Royce killed everybody like
we are all like what like the nicest car we
ever saw anybody get was like a cheap wrangler. All
of a sudden he had he bought a fucking used

(01:28:15):
Rolls Royce bushed everybody. That is that's dope. That's that's dope.
I wonder where that car is now. Uh, you got
a questions, as two Jewish gentlemen from New York, are
you giving props to Drake just because he's bar mitzvah No, sorry,
that that's not actually my question. Um My, my questions

(01:28:38):
you got. You know, it was just kind of a
trip to hear you talking about Q Tip and and
Day Last Soul and and as a man of a
certain age and and just kind of remembering that at
that time, Um, that was very like they just kind
of like cerebral and socially conscious hip hop And and
who do you see is carrying on that torch today?

(01:28:58):
Like from that, I mean, they're so many little slices
of wrapping hip hop, but like like those guys, it's
just there was just something different going on there, Like
like who do you see moving forward with that mantle?
That's a good question. Well, I don't. I don't think
you have any Like it was very special, like the
whole when you had native tongues and you had like

(01:29:18):
literally was like a community, and I think it was
empowering talk all of them and kind of until it fractured,
like you know, like like the fact that Q Tip
got to get on by getting on the Jungle Brothers
record and then you know, eventually like as friends they
blew up. But you know what I mean, Like I
think that helped. There was a lot of power in
the community. And I don't think you eat you know,

(01:29:41):
there's no analogous thing. You know. Then you had day
La Whatever, Money Love, Latifa, Latifa Tribe, Jungle Brothers leaders
in New school, you know, so it was he wasn't
really really know he was. I did make a be
about a Trump request, But I mean, I just if

(01:30:04):
I had to think one artist, I don't know, I
would have to I'm gonna have to say, actually, well,
I'm gonna go my obvious answer is gonna be Kanye,
because he's the only one I feel like making innovative records.
I know he was like enough about Kanye or with
the political political well, I didn't feel with tribe with

(01:30:24):
with with I don't know when Native talks. I don't
even feel it was so much political. It was more
like social, you know what I mean. I mean, I
guess it was like there was a consciousness aspect and
it was and they were being upfront about being smart.
They they weren't trying to like hide that or hide
behind being tough. Right. Um. I think Kendrick his his

(01:30:46):
last album very point. I mean he was. I didn't
even the first. I think first album is brilliant songs
and brilliant songwriting. I mean, Kendrick, there's bold statements on that.
On this new album. It's it's I wouldn't give what
even the first don't don't come on Mike, don't hate
the first albums incredible, No, I agree, you know, just
I know it was the bigger record whatever, but it

(01:31:08):
has anyway. But I just agree with I agree with
you on Kendrick, like he's he's artistic, he's going to
be around and he's making real records with something to say.
I agree, I had real albums. They're not just like
a couple of songs, right, He's putting out a record
with the whole beginning, middle, and end in in a
in a point of view. Okay, we'll do the next next, Yeah,

(01:31:31):
go ahead, ahead. Question it's got a lazy eye. Don't
worry about it. You're like totally totally switching the subjects
because I have like about a thousand music questions. I'd
love to ask the both get one. But I want
to know something completely different. You said that you had
two children around the ages of mine, So I'm curious
as to what you think about society and kids are

(01:31:52):
youth right now? Are they? Do you feel that they're
in a dangerous society? Dangerous society? I don't know. First off,
we should be asking them that, not us, But um,
I would say, but I don't know. It was interesting
I was having this whole conversation today that it's interesting,

(01:32:14):
like with there's a weird thing that happens. I noticed,
like I think, now I know this happens when you
have like I don't know if you're like your kids
play like a wall or a bit. So my kids
went through a moment where they were really doing that
a lot. And it's like kids would come up that
are really good at something gets so they're treated like superstars.

(01:32:38):
Like when we were growing up, there was no you
could be good at something. It wasn't like, you know
what I mean, nobody you were. You were still just
a kid, right, Nobody gave it Like, you still have
to work hard, you still to take the trash out.
Now it's like, you know what I mean, if you're
the starting center on this team, or you're like a
piano prodigy or you're you know, the next brilliant ballerina,

(01:33:02):
that's all you do, right and every everything is like
and you get famous. Yeah, you get allowed happening, I
guess because yeah, there's the thing of social media and
YouTube whatever. You're like the eight year old, it's from YouTube.
I saw a three year old on on What's the Show? Uh,
he said he was a fucking DJ. Was uh, what's
the show? Um? The music show? Nick Cannon, America's got talent,

(01:33:25):
But it was America's got talent to South Africa. He's
three year old. He's playing, he's turning knobs, are like,
he doesn't know what the funk he's doing. He's just
turning down. The music is coming up and everybody's going
crazy for him. I said, he thinks it's a net
of sketch. He doesn't know what the fun but he's
famous his three year old South Africa. He's a great kid.

(01:33:45):
You think his name is DJ Crocodile. Now, he's a
great kid. No, I'm not I'm not knocking him. I'm
not saying. I'm just saying is that he doesn't know
what the funk he's doing DJ Crocodile, Not to say
that he can't grow into it. I just I saw him.
They were very talented with the R sketch. Yeah, but
he thinks he's djaying that's the thing, all right? Do

(01:34:08):
you uh do you still write rhymes once in a while?
There any chance of new music ever coming out? Yeah, yeah,
there's a chance. I mean not and not as a
bad just because I'm not saying that A's a band,
But yeah, I mean there's yes, I was, that's a
good question. So so dude, what is that like like

(01:34:31):
you know with rhymes and and and music like now,
like do do do rhymes popping your head? Do you
hear a beat? Like I always curious with m c
s and rappers, like if you hear something in the car,
like are you flutting with it? Is it? You know?
Like how does that work for you? And here's my
my question to that follow up questions, So it's a
two for one. Do you have sup supposed to be?

(01:34:52):
I'm gone, this is good. They're gonna appreciate this. This
is a good question. Cut them. This is a good question.
I wanted to follow up on him. I mean I
know it's your show. No no, no, I want to
follow them. Is but but and and and do you
at this point in your life and at this age
have musical hopes and dreams inside of you? Like is this?

(01:35:13):
I do know there's definitely like records that like I
would say, like I want to work on like I
don't want to be necessarily the center part whatever or
in a group where but yeah, no, there's still music
ideas and things that, like, you know, and I've been
lucky in the last year of like working on some
different records with other um people, which I'm happy to

(01:35:34):
do because yeah, there's still like you'll get an idea.
I mean, there's there's two different works, two different ways.
There's like ideas that just come to you or or
just an ambition you might have of something you want
to make, And that's still definitely happens to me. But
I don't I'm also not in the cycle of like
you know, when we were a band and we're active,
it's like you have to just show up and write.

(01:35:55):
And so you know, like whether it's whether it's writing
rhymes or just being you know, on game. In terms
of being able to do that, you know, I think
there's that facet too, and the only way to do
that of being on game that way, it's like anything,
you just gotta practice. Alan Averson might disagree, but practice
practice right rhymes. We're talking about right rhymes. Got another

(01:36:19):
one number one out. We're talking about right rhymes. Rhymes.
All right, Sorry, question, pringing it back all the way
to where we started to November. This question. We always
love to ask if you could give advice to your
younger singer A ringer the ringer questioner, I don't know

(01:36:40):
what I mean to say. It's professional anyway. Um, if
you were going to give advice to your younger self,
what's one piece of advice you would give to your
younger self health wise? Or I'll answer that first. My
advice to my younger self would all those ship hold
houldings on the lower side that you think of ship holes,

(01:37:03):
by all of them? Yeah, I walked by those, don't
you walk by? Are you just like you? I mean
when license say oh came out, you could have bought
a whole fucking block and it would have been you
would have been like jazy, who motherfucker a block? I
could I could have bought the whole neighborhood. Oh that

(01:37:26):
fucking pains me. That's one thing about I look at
the Manhattan and I go to I Worry You're in Brooklyn,
and they're like, there's I could have owned a Barclay Center,
like I could have. I could have bought that whole
fucking mine. It could have been the Rappaports Center, Like
when I like at that where when I like in
Harlem and like it's cold, like Bill Clinton's like I
could like you could have like literally, well, like I
want to buy everything across a hundred intense street. That

(01:37:49):
that would have been my advice to myself. Mike. Damn, No,
that's hard to talk. That's that's from would it have
been like do push ups? So I don't know what
would have been. I don't know what the funk that.
That's hard to the stomach. I lived in a building
that the guy offered me, he said you could buy
for that. I was like, fuck you, you cocks. You're

(01:38:09):
trying to take it. And now I walked by the building,
I'm like, he's so stupid. It was so dumb, so dumb,
so young and so dumb. That's the thing is that
when you're young, you're just so dumb. So any advice
that I may or may not have gotten or given myself,
I thought I knew better, and I fucked it up.
So dumb. That's so dumb. That's the thing about making

(01:38:31):
money when you're young is your dumbest shit. It was
so dumb. Okay, what would be the advice, Mike? You know,
I don't know how I'm not come on, Mike, Well,
I would say, first off, see that that I'm gonna
get back to jay Z now for the eighth time
in this interview, Like, I don't feel like jay Z
was never that dumb. No, like he even always somehow

(01:38:53):
he always would have bought the building. Yes, I agree,
I agree, the whole doesn't. Yeah, he wouldn't sunk up
like you and me. He's like Fanzie jay Z. I
can say he's literally like that guy. He's like fun
like he could like turn on and all like Funzi
and should like you know, he's fun. But he got

(01:39:14):
no A. I don't know what's the whole no, but
he's got other ship going for him. He's got Beyonce.
He doesn't need ag. I guess he jiggas. I guess. Yeah,
I don't know. I don't have a good one. I'm
I'm passing. All right, one more question and we're gonna
shut it down. Hello Mike, Hello Mike. Okay, here's my
question for you. In your history of recording, writing, recording,

(01:39:38):
being in the studio, what moments still stand out in
your mind? For example, all of us have moments in
our lives that we remember that that incident from twenty
years ago sticks in our mind, what certain moments, what
song did one of the other people you work with
bring out that you just sat back and said, oh
my god, that's amazing. What anyone or how many of them?

(01:39:59):
I O? Well, I mean there's first off, I have
to commend you on now Mike and I were, you know,
we just go on and we talk and we we
ramble a little bit. You've got, sir, a professional sounding
broadcast voice. I just I want to encourage you to
get into a career voiceover. Put the camera down. I'm

(01:40:22):
just saying me, you get my vote. I think voiceover
be It's basic, but not overwhelming. It's a very clear,
you know, it's sort of like it's no real accent attached.
It could be I can want to see him on camera.
You're saying you're limiting him to just voice of work.
Like he's got a good haircut, he's well dressed, like

(01:40:44):
this could be a fucking reporter like this guy, like
he could do the whole thing. I listen. As soon
as we're done with Drake and make and Meek Mills,
that's a big event for us coming up. When we're
done with that, we can focus on your career. Mike
and Mike um now, but where was like, oh no,
so moments, I'm gonna all right, I'll say the one

(01:41:06):
comes to mind was when we made Paul Revere because
Run from Run DMC was there and we idolized Run
and he came to make a record with us. But
what made it so exciting was, yeah, m c A
had the idea to flip the tape over to make
it go backwards. So the beat went backwards, so you know,
we recorded it forwards. He flipped the tape and then

(01:41:26):
it's playing backwards. Did that happen that? That happenstance? Or
was that because he again, he was the techno whiz,
so you know, we as like white kids loved hip hop.
He listened to a lot of Jimi Hendrix and so
you know we are up on the backwards sounding thing.
And then because he spent time working as an assistant engineer,

(01:41:48):
he knew how to actually do that. So he's like, oh, no,
well record the beat, make the beat and then watch
I'll flip it. We're like huh, and we were like
so Adam and I were like okay, busy trying to
make the eight o eight beat and like, yeah, just
trust me. Just do that and then I'm gonna flip it.
So we did it and then run like flip the
funk out. I get so excited and so that you

(01:42:09):
know that, to me, that was like the most exciting
to make somebody you idolize that they're actually excited about
the ship you're making. That's a good story. That's cool.
So one more question, just one more good making a
good people? Don't they want to get a drink and
go home last week, I all gotta work on today

(01:42:34):
stories like that. That's good ship, Mike once, but say
it loud. He's not even standing up to ask his question.
He's going home, Mike, He's like, can you can I
get my parking validated? Motherfucker's not a reporter, but I'm

(01:42:55):
I claim no responsibility. Yeah, I'm gonna claim more responsibility
for Drake, just so they're just because I'm not a rapper,
I'm a rapperport That's about as far as it goes in.

(01:43:15):
So alright, no, and no dude, respect to any of
what are macamore big records? People love his songs the
world over. You know Mac Miller. I love Mac does
his thing? What's Mac? Actually? Mac music? I feel like
come come, he needs he needs a dis record. Yeah,
he should dis somebody. I don't know who. I'm gonna

(01:43:36):
talk to him about this. I think he needs to
dis somebody. Yeah, you gotta do that because he's hot. Actually,
like when he's on like the posse cuts with like
Kendrick and uh like Jay, what's the song that he's
on with like Kendrick and J Electronica or whatever, like
he he that's when he's actually shines. He should he
needs to. Um, you know, some some dudes, some dudes
are six men and some dudes are solo, like not everybody.

(01:44:00):
You know, it's like, who's somebody just popped into my head?
It was like it was never really you know, to
be a solo record or you know, two verses on
a song, it's a lot of weight, right yeah, well yeah,
the right. Like I think like Buster is a great
example off the bench, Bust shut it down, homes in
kills it. I mean the best one of the yeah,

(01:44:20):
one of the best. I mean that's an I mean,
you know, Chris Brown makes a record as a Buster.
You know it's a Buster record. He takes it over
busta rhymes its top five. He's arguably top five. Yo,
I appreciate everybody hanging in there. You got one more question?
Is it a great question? That's number two? He's breaking
your own rule, Mike Ship Damn oh, he's already up there.

(01:44:43):
If I sit him down there, we're gonna have beef
with him immediately after everybody else man be assualted. Question
straight at the Compton movie introduced n W A and
easy to a new generation. Um, there's already talked about
the deaf jam picture wrestles talking in universal. How do
you want BC boys to be portrayed? Who generation that's
not familiar with them? Uh? I'd like like in uh,

(01:45:07):
you know, I think I can animated UM format, kind
of like South Park. That's a good that's a good answer.
All right, this is the end of the symposium the forum.
I appreciate you guys hanging in there, and uh, Mike,
I really appreciate it. I really truly appreciate the time.

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