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Speaker 1 (00:11):
I'm such a fan Rob Reiner. The I know you're
gonna blush, but you are great. The great writer, director, producer, actor,
child of the Hollywood film business from New York, director
of the Princess Bride, when Harry met Sally. A few
(00:33):
good men. This is fucking spinal tap misery. The American
President acted in so many things, of course, just an advocate,
an outspoken advocate, and now a podcaster my life. You
have your documentary defending My Life with Albert Brooks, the
(00:54):
great Albert Brooks, which that must have been so much fun.
I mean, the two you must, I mean, forget the work,
just hanging around with him.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Well, we're childhood friends, you know, we've we met each
other in high school. We've been best friends since and
we shared a house together. And yeah, so it was
that was a real labor of love.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
That's so cool. That is so cool. And now you
have a podcast Who Killed JFK? Which I'm just going
to say this off the top to you, and I'm
going to say this to anybody listening. There's no way
I'm going to be able to ask all the questions
that somebody should ask, Rob Reiner. It's impossible to do that.
I mean, you should have your own documentary the things
(01:33):
you've seen, the things you've done, the stories, the parties,
the actors you've worked with, the actors you've directed.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Well, maybe Michael, I'll hire you. Maybe you can make
the documentary about me.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
That would be fucking awesome.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
You do have filmmaking skills.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
I have filmmaking skills, and I've directed a couple of documentaries,
and I know.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Just like you know, they are an arduous, challenging.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
Yeah, very difficult, Yeah, very difficult.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
Yeah, I mean, just first, since we're in there, like,
wouldn't you say, on some level, making a documentary is
even more challenging than making a scripted film because of
the unpredictability.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Well, the thing about, you know, making a first real
documentary I made, you know, Spinal Tap was a fake
documentary that was fun and easy to do, even though
there was no script Because everybody in the film was
an improvisational actor. The whole film was improvised, so it
felt natural to all of us and I didn't have
any problems with it. Matter of fact, we're preparing a
(02:33):
sequel to Spinal Tap, which we're going to start shooting
early part of next year.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
I gotta stop you.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
I gotta stop you, and I just have to say,
please make that movie.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Film. Fans need it, the world needs it.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
There will be no better time to alleviate the craziness
that's going on with a spinal tap reunion film.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
Please do not let anything get in the way of that.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Well, No, we're bulling ahead here. I mean we're waiting
for hopefully the writer's strike will be over soon. We're
hearing good things strike negotiations. Yeah, I mean, excuse me,
I said writers. I meant actors strike. The writer's strike
is over, Yeah, the actor strike. And so once that happen,
you know, once that we're ready to go and we've
got a good story and we're ready to go.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Man, I mean, that would be a fucking it just
like warms my heart to even think and to hear
you say that. Let me just start with this. I
said I was gonna start with Trump again. I can't
ask all the questions. I'm just gonna and I'm not
even gonna go into so much of what you know,
like how you were friends with Albert Brooks and the
other people that you were friends with around Los Angeles
(03:39):
and Hollywood and the things that you saw. But you know,
for me, watching All in the Family was such a
unique thing because I didn't understand that it was even
a show. I didn't understand that it was a sitcom.
I didn't understand that these were characters. It was so
real from the top down, the set, the opening, the performances,
(04:04):
Carol O'Connor, all of you guys were so incredible. When
you look back on that time working as an actor,
what do you remember the most and specifically what was
Carol O'Connor like in between takes? Because when I saw
him do other things afterwards and do things that he
(04:28):
had done before Archie Bunker, I was like, I didn't
it didn't make sense to me because he was Archie
Bunker to me.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
Right.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
And as a matter of fact, he was in the
film Cleopatra, and when it came out, he had, you know,
all the family had already been out and people would
go to the theater and the you know, in the
scene where they're gonna you know, where they're gonna kill Caesar,
you know, somebody said.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
Go get a machi.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
You know, he was, but he was very, very very
different from the ca character he played. As a matter
of fact a lot many people know. But he was
even more liberal than I am.
Speaker 4 (05:06):
You know.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
He was way to the left of me, And which
is interesting because he played the bigot and I played
the liberal, but he was, you know, I died in
the wool liberal, you know, so he was very different.
But the two things that I take away from it
the most, that I remember the most, that is it
was for me going to getting my graduate degree, you know,
(05:27):
in show business, because I learned, you know, I wrote
some of the episodes with my partner Phil Michigan. When
I wasn't in the scene, i'd spend my time in
the writer's room. I'd go to the booth where the
director was and I'd learn about how to put things together.
We did it in front of a live audience, so
I learned what audience has responded to and how you
craft a little stage play, which is what it was.
(05:49):
And Carol taught me about acting and how you know.
He said, if the story in the script is good,
you don't have to make faces, you don't have to
do anything. Let the audience in just by looking, you know,
And so he taught me about the acting. And then
Norman Lear, who was like a second father to me.
I mean, he's you know, I love him dearly, and
(06:11):
you know he's one hundred and one now and just
still hanging in there. But I mean, you know, I
love him like a second father. And he taught us
about pushing the ennge of the envelope. Really he was
what I called, it's a Yiddish term, which you, Michael,
you know, probably won't understand.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
Not being of no I know you would get this.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
But he's what I called a cook leffel akok lefvel.
It's a Yiddish phrase means a ladle, something that stirs
the pot. And that's what he did every single episode.
It was pushing us to get more, to try to
make it edgier, to try to you know, find you know,
dig into ourselves and find a truth within ourselves to
(06:56):
push out into the character and into the stories.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
So those are the experiences.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
I mean. We never thought it was going to be
a success. So we thought, well, let's do the best
we can and you know, put it all out there,
and we had no idea that it was going to
be successful. It came out on I think a Tuesday,
you know, in nineteen seventy one and CBS had a disclaimer.
They put a disclaimer on basically saying, you know, we
(07:23):
don't subscribe to the you know the position. Basically, they
were saying, you know, watch this show at your own risk.
We don't know how it got on. Somehow it's on
the air, but you know, don't we don't want to
have anything to do with it. You watch it, if
you like it, fine, you know, But then it became successful.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
I personally think that not only do I think a
show like that is needed now, but I personally think
that a show like that would do well, particularly right now.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Well, I mean, we can't be more divided. I mean
that's for sure, and you know, talk about red state,
blue state. I mean we're we're living in it now.
And I think you could have now you know, we're
also in a PC world now. It would probably have
to be you know, either streamed or you know something.
He could never be on regular television, But yes, I
(08:16):
agree with you, I think it could.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
There could be a show like that, now.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
Don't don't you think though, Like when you say it
couldn't be on regular television, I think it would be.
You know, we all know that network TV isn't what
it was even five years ago, let alone in nineteen
seventy one or the eighties and the nineties or anything.
But me personally, I feel like, you know, there's no
cursing on it.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
There's no anything.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
And I feel like, literally, if you took these scripts
of all in the Family and you remade it, and
you took you know, the Vietnam War and change it
to this, and change it to that, and you change
you know, black lives matter to something, I literally think
you can do the exact same show today and it.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
Would do significantly better.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
And the majority of sitcom shows that are going on
because I feel like we need it, and I feel
like it should be done on a PC format and
it should be done where you don't need to be
on a streamer.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
I mean, well, I mean, I you know, I would
hope you would be right, but I know, you know,
you can't. You know in the show that the N
word was used, right and you can't use that now.
And there are certain you know, racial epithets that were
flung around, you know, flying out of Archie's mouth that
I don't think you know, And to me, that's what
made it real. I mean, he was a bigot, he
(09:33):
you know, and there are still those people and so yeah,
you know, I don't know that you could say those things.
Speaker 4 (09:40):
I mean, you know, you get canceled.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Yeah, I guess I just think that, you know, like
I mean today when we're taping November first, I think
that it's needed more and the conversations and the discussions
and the there's just so many great memories I have.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
From watching it.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
When you see clips pop up, I know you're on
social media, like do you look at it? Are you
able to I appreciate it as a fan or are
you like, oh, yeah, that day my back was hurting
that day, you know, my car, Like, how are you
able to see?
Speaker 3 (10:07):
When you see those clips? What do they how do
they process with you?
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Well, it's funny because I haven't really watched the show
in you know, decades. I mean it was on I
gues say, nineteen seventy. It's you know, what is that?
That's fifty years? You know, I haven't really Yeah, it's insane.
So I haven't really watched the show. But I am
on you know, the Twitter now x and every once
in a while something will pop up and I'll go, oh,
look at that. I used to be on that show.
(10:32):
You know, it was weird. It's weird, but then I'll
just look at it as was it good? I mean,
did we do there? And I'm always surprised at how
good it is. It's still really good. And my kids,
you know, when they started watching when they were younger,
they kept saying, Dad, you know, it sounds like you,
but it doesn't look like you. It's is that you.
(10:54):
You know, they couldn't imagine that I ever looked like that.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Like I said, I'm going to preface this one more
time about not being able to ask you every single thing.
I would love to ask you what excites you the
most creatively today? Like I said, you've done so much
what you know artists and you are a true artist.
You know, we're not like athletes were able to go
into the wheels fall off. Your father went, I'm sure
(11:19):
until the wheels, you know, they slow down, but we
still have, you know, the impotence to you know, create,
what inspires you as an artist as a creator, as
a producer, as a director, as a performer. Today at
your age, how old are you now?
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Rob, I'm seventy six, Shit, you look six. Really fucking
Bear Gray Beery looks good.
Speaker 4 (11:40):
Though, I mean, well, you know good and not in
You're not like coming on to me, are you?
Speaker 3 (11:46):
No?
Speaker 1 (11:46):
No, no, no no no no hear. But did you
get a text message from me before?
Speaker 3 (11:50):
That will get later?
Speaker 4 (11:51):
Yeah, when you say what are you wearing or something
like that?
Speaker 3 (11:54):
Yes, wait, did you already get the text?
Speaker 2 (11:58):
No? I think a lot of out. You know, how
many more productive years I will have, you know? And
right now I'm firing on a lot of cylinders. I
got a documentary out, I got it. I've actually produced
another documentary about Christian nationalism and the danger it is
to our country and to Christianity, and that's, you know,
(12:19):
coming out next year. And I've got this JFK podcast
and we're talking about you know, like I said, we're
going to do a sequel SPOTSTP. So I got a
lot of things that I'm doing and I think about
a lot about how many more years can I do stuff?
And I look at Clint Eastwood and he was ninety whatever.
But you know, I just like doing this stuff, and
(12:40):
I try to find things that resonate with me in
the theatrical area. I try to find things that I
can put all of what I've learned at this point
or all of what I think about into a project
and find a way of making it entertaining and all
of that. So I have a few things that I
still want to do, and uh, I just hope, you know,
(13:02):
like you say, until the wheels come off, until somebody says,
you know, you can't do this anymore, I want to
keep going.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
Yeah, podcast, I want to ask you specifically about actors
(13:29):
that you have directed, because so many actors, as you know,
it's like a different personal relationship.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
You're almost like a therapist.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
You're a coach, you're a messuse, you're a friend, you're
a best friend.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
But no, no happy endings. No, no, no, there's never
happy end No.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
It's a boat board. You're just a straight up like
it's a kissing massage.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
Yes, and they keep their clothes on.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
Absolutely.
Speaker 4 (13:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
I'll start with the top, you know, and I know
you've answered this question before directing Jack Nicholson. What is
the strategy, what is the groove?
Speaker 3 (14:08):
What is he like on set? I'm gonna just is
he a three take guy? Is he a guy that
tries things? What was it like working with him?
Speaker 1 (14:18):
Directing him in one of his most iconic performances, in
a few good men.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Well, first of all, he's in the pantheon of the
great actors screen actors of all time. Hey, I mean period,
you know. And so he is a professional. He first
of all, he loves to act, and he's a professional.
He comes to work prepared. I remember when we first
started rehearsals. We have a tip what they call a
(14:47):
table read. Everybody sits around the table and we read
the script and Jack comes with a full performance. What
I saw at the table is essentially what I wind
up seeing on screen, and it sends a message to
every other actor we you know, we had Tom Cruise
and Kevin Bacon and you know me Moore, I mean
(15:08):
all these he's really young, great actors, and when they
see Jack coming to play, they it sends a message
to them that's we bet beyond our game too. It's
like watching Babe Ruth. It's like being on the Yankees,
you know, And all of a sudden, Babe Ruth steps
in the cage and he starts hitting him into the
upper deck. Everybody says, oh, okay, this is for real.
(15:31):
We got to do this. And Jack was always like that.
He was like that all the way. Now in that
famous scene where he does that great speech. You know
you can't handle the truth that scene. You know, it's
a long speech. He's got a long speech. And I
said to Jack, I said, Jack, you know I can
do one of two things.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
Let me.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
I can either, if you're ready, I can shoot you first,
or I have a lot of cutaways. I have a
lot of reactions with you know, Kevin Bacon and Kevin
Pollock and to me and Tom and all this, and
I can shoot their reactions and then I can turn
around and shoot your part whatever you like. And he says, well,
why don't you, you know, shoot them, and then I'll
(16:12):
lit'll give me a chance to you know, work into it.
And so I said, fine. So now we're shooting the reactions,
and the first take is exactly how you see it
in the film. He does it a third, second time,
a third time, a fourth time. I finally, I said, Jack,
you know, why don't you save a little bit when
I come around and shoot you.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
He says, rab, you don't understand. I love to act.
He says, I don't get good parts like this always.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
You know, And that was his thing. It was the same.
And I turned around. It was the same performance. He's
he's a brilliant actor. And but you know, every actors different.
You know, some actors like a lot of attention. Other
actors want to be left alone, and you have to
figure that out. Some actors don't want you to give
a line reading. Now, being an actor and you know,
(17:05):
having a feel for music, I can tell people how
to say a line if it's a comedy thing that
they don't get. Jack would ask me sometimes, how do
you want me to say it? Tom Cruise asked me.
And those actors who ask you are the most secure
of all actors because they don't care. They're just wanting
to get the best performance. The actors who are insecure say,
(17:28):
don't tell me, I don't want to know, you know,
like that kind of thing. So, you know, a couple
of times I would give. I gave Jack a line reading,
I gave Tom a line reading.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
I love that so much. I love that so much.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
And me personally, I like line readings from directors because
you know all the philosophical uh you know, high falutin.
You know, it's like, okay, if I'm not kidding it,
how do you want me to say it?
Speaker 3 (17:51):
Boom boom.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
It's just like it's a plug and play that way,
and it just cuts to it.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
And I think it is true.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
You're they're more secure in general to ask and it
saves everybody's time.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Yeah, no, it does, especially when it's a comedy moment
and you want to just make and because I remember
the one moment but Tom says, you know, dem is
leaving his apartment and she starts to say something and
he says, I know what you're going to say.
Speaker 4 (18:14):
You know, you love you know, you like working with me.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
It's been great and I'm smart and this, and you
know it's because they're going to go into court the
next day and this, that and the other. And she says, no,
I was just going to say we're matching socks. And
he just says, okay, good tip, you know, and that's all.
And he says, how do you want me to say it?
I said, okay, good tip.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
You know, that's good.
Speaker 4 (18:37):
That was it.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Did you ever imagine, I mean Tom Cruise was a
star at that point, but he's in a different planet.
Could you ever imagine that there would be stars as
magnificent And he's a planet of Hollywood, Like he's like
his own planet.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
Well he's like Tom Cruise is I think the only
remaining star in Hollywood that you can bank on. I
mean that used to be a star with somebody who
would bring people to the theater, you know. And Tom
is like the last of the great old fashion movie stars.
(19:12):
I mean a lot of great actors. There are a
lot of stars. Leonardo DiCaprio, to me, is one of
the most brilliant actors, maybe the most brilliant, but it's.
Speaker 4 (19:21):
Like he's an actor in a part.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
Where's Tom Cruise is, Like you say, he's above He's
bigger than all that. And I think he's like the
last remaining old fashion movie star.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
Yeah, or new fashion movie star, because I don't.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
Know if that a little but I mean I mean, yeah, no,
it's it's it just keeps transcending it and so yeah,
and he's he's handled his career really well. I wish
that Tom would do something more character driven or personal.
You know, he used to balance those things.
Speaker 4 (19:51):
He'd do the more.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
You know, the mission impossible type things, and he'd you know,
balance it off with other things. I wish he would
do a little bit more of that. But I'm not
gonna tell him what to do. He knows what to do.
He's a great actor.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
He knows what to do. I'm gonna ask you other
actors like or just When Harry MT.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
Sally.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
It needs no introduction, it needs no reference. The fucking
film is beautiful. It's, you know, a top film of
so many people. It's so captured the romance, the highs
and lows, the thrills of victory, the agony of defeat
in a relationship. As a New Yorker, you guys shot
(20:28):
it beautifully, I mean perfectly. The New York of When
Harry MT. Sally is so just it's like a great meal.
Every time you look at it and you're just like
ough and you've seen it and you've seen them walk
in the park and you recognize the leaves from when
you first see it and the snow and all that stuff.
What was their chemistry like? And how did you guys
have fun making that movie? I imagine you and Billy
(20:49):
have known each other and what was that?
Speaker 4 (20:51):
Yeah, No, I met Billy.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
He was cast in an episode of All in the
Family and he was cast as as my best friend,
and so normally, you know, he probably knew something. So
we became friends. Then we've been friends ever since. And so, yeah,
that was fun. It was fun to work with Billy
because with Billy you're not only getting the guy who
(21:16):
can act the part, but you're getting freebies, and you're
getting big freebies. I mean, he wrote the line I'll
have what she's having, which is the biggest and funniest
line of any film.
Speaker 4 (21:27):
I've ever done.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
And he came up with that line, so and a
number of other lines in the film. So that's the
gift you get with Billy. You get a lot of freebies.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
Oh that's that's good. That's really good. I love that.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
The late great Jimmy Kahn one of the great tough
guy actors, charismatic actors, a great Jewish actor who a
lot of people forget was a Jewish you know, tough
guy personified. You worked with him on Misery. In my opinion,
his comeback film along with Kathy Bates. This is a
goddamn fucking another classic. I mean a goddamn fucking classic.
(22:06):
You make fucking classics, Rob Reiner, what was his style
of acting like and what is Kathy Bates like when
you're directing her in Misery.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
Well, it's interesting you bring that up, because, first of all,
he was a Jewish guy, and he was a cowboy.
Speaker 4 (22:22):
You know.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
He used to ride in a rodeo and he used
to rope calf He was a caff roper, and so
that was always weird to me, a Jewish cowboy anyway.
But Jimmy's style was totally instinctive. He didn't want to
have rehearsals. He just whatever would come out. Kathy was
a stage trained actress and she liked lots of rehearsals,
(22:42):
so it was interesting. We had to do more rehearsals
than Jimmy would have liked and less rehearsals than Kathy
would have liked. But they worked great together. They were
amazing together. And I think it worked well for Jimmy
because he, you know, he's very physical, like you say, he's,
you know, macho kind of guy. He's a cowboy, right,
(23:04):
rides horses and stuff. And the idea that he would
be stuck in a bed that he could not be physical,
he couldn't move for the whole movie. It was like
a perfect thing for him because it restricted him and
made his frustration even greater. And every day I would
come to the set and I would say to Jimmy
I'd walk in close.
Speaker 4 (23:22):
I said, Jimmy, like, in this scene, what I want
is for you to be in bed. And then I
walked away.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
Every day I said that in this scene you're in bed,
I just walked away.
Speaker 4 (23:37):
That is funny.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
But he was great, and he his frustration came out
and it was really good.
Speaker 4 (23:43):
I love that so much.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
I mean, I don't want to go into every film,
but again, The Princess Bride stand by Me is such
another beautiful, beautiful, beautiful film that I just rewatched and
I put on I was doing a list of top
of my favorite summer films, you know, and I just
rewatched it this summer. When you're acting you acted in
the Wolf of Wall Street. When you're acting in something
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like that, and obviously you're a fan, I don't have
to ask. You're a fan of cinema, you're a fan
of actors, you're a fan of films. When you're acting
under scoresese and you don't have to worry about every
single thing, are you like, this is a day at
the beach? Are you kind of checking out what he
does because I'm sure you love what he does?
Speaker 3 (24:30):
Like, what is that like for you?
Speaker 4 (24:31):
And what was specifically, like it is like a day
at the beach. I love.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
You know, to act is fun because you don't have
the responsibilities. I mean, you're just there. And you know,
especially when you know with somebody like Martin Scorre says,
I mean, the guy's brilliant. He's a great, great filmmaker,
so you don't have to worry about anything. And he
makes you feel comfortable, let you improvise. He lets you
do whatever you want. And you know, I love being
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on other people's sets because I see how they I mean,
you know, I did a partner Woody Allen film and
I saw how he liked to work. And to me,
you know, it's fun because I get to see what
other people do. I remember one time Ron Ron Howard
sent me. He wanted me to be in something, and
he said, I got this thing if you'd like to do.
(25:17):
I said, yeah, I'll be in it. And he said,
well don't you want Let me send you the script.
You'll read it and see if I says, I don't
have to read it. I said, if it's no good,
it's not my fault.
Speaker 4 (25:27):
A hahaha. I'm just acting. I'm an actor.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
I'm not good, you know, and I try, you know,
so it to me, it's just fun. It's just fun
to do and there's not a lot of responsibility, which
is kind of fun.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
What did you take away or what did you notice
a surprised interesting about working for Scorsese as an actor.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
Well, like I say, he lets you play, I mean
you can improvise, and he lets you do that, and
so I was comfortable doing that in a number of scenes.
And and but if you have people that you can
do it with, it's great. Like one scene with Jonah Hill,
I mean, you know, you could play back and forth
with him. There was one scene I remember I was
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sitting there, you know, I'm standing with Leo's in the middle,
and then as Jon Favreau was a great director too,
and he's the law he's his lawyer, and we're standing
there and he's got it's in front of this beautiful
setting on Long Island with his wife and his kid
and their horseback riding and there's a great, you know,
beautiful acreage and everything. And I'm saying to him, I said, look,
(26:32):
his lawyer says, look, you know, we can make a
settlement here for this, and you can. You'll only go
to jail for a year or two, and you know,
or we can settle it in the thing. And he
goes and I says, listen to what he says. Listen
to what he says. You don't want to throw this
all away. Look, you got your wife, your kids. You
know you don't want to throw this all away. And
he says, I hear you. And I said, and then
(26:56):
that was the end of the scene. I said, no,
I don't think you hear me. I don't hear you
hearing me. And that, to me, it was like I
felt like I was in the Scorsese film. You know,
it's like, you know, you don't even know what you
mean by you, you know, like in Raging Bull. And
then I said, actually said, I feel like I'm in
a Martin Scorsese film.
Speaker 4 (27:17):
And he said, all right, cut it.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
You know that pod.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
Just to move off of Hollywood. The actors strike, the
writers strike. You know, it's so it's been so frustrating,
you know, the business has changed so much, just as
at the time that I've been in it. Do you
see an end of the actor's strike? And I mean,
you know, my the this is what my suggestion is.
At this point, our biggest stars, the biggest time Cruz,
(28:01):
Margot Robbie, who just made a piece of property worth
a billion dollars, Denzel Leonardo, you know you could get
the fifteen best, the biggest best, Jennifer Lawrence, Viola Davis,
you know, get them. They go in front of these
producers and they represent the actors and they go, what
the fuck? You know, Like, if I'm Margot Robbie, I mean,
(28:22):
you can't tell her no, she just made a piece
of property that was worth a billion dollars. Where do
you see this going? How do you see this ending?
You know, both signs because you're you're probably an ever.
You get insurance from up the wazoo, your screen actors Guild,
your producer's Guild.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
Your writers guild. What what do you see? Just in
regards to the actors.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
Rob Well, I mean, like you say, it's a very
strange time, and uh, I don't think we know how
this is all gonna shake out right now. I think
that the actors, you know, are making progress and hopefully
they'll they'll settle. But the contract that they signed usually
goes for three years, and in three years time, this
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landscape is going to change dramatically and we don't know
the effects of AI and where that's going to go.
We don't know whether or not all the streaming platforms
are still going to exist the way they do. Is
there going to be commercials on streaming platforms and it's
not going to just be about subscription And where are
(29:26):
the revenue streams coming? And it's now it's all unknown,
So you have to make a deal that's somewhat good.
It's as good as you can, and then hopefully if
it starts to form itself and shake itself out in
a certain way, then you can address it a little better,
because right now we're in a very gray, amorphous area
(29:48):
in terms of where revenue is going to come from.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
Yeah, it's a good way to put it.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
And you're right, I didn't even think, you know, of
three years ahead how it's going to change, because who
the hell knows those what kind of technology. I mean,
if you've played around with this AI shit, it's it's
shocking what it does. Yeah, and I've only done it,
you know, like on apps on my phone. You know
that there's music, there's all sorts.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
Of shit that Yeah, I mean, if you're an actor,
it seems to me It's an easier thing to control
if you're an actor, because there should be ways of
copywriting your your image and your voice and all of
that so that they can't take certain things of you
and use them in ways that you don't agree on.
(30:36):
With writers, it's tougher because they can take writing samples
from everywhere and you can't identify where that came from
in terms of creating a new product. So I think
it's much tougher for writers than it is for actors,
to be honest, I agree in terms of controlling AI.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
I agree, that's the scariest part. But they made it deal.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
And still the actors are out here with signs and
it's getting cold in New York.
Speaker 4 (31:05):
Rob.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
The party you know, like I were like partying out
there is Today was the first cold is day.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
So we need to get this shit fixed.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
I'm gonna totally pivot to politics and social stuff. And
since you are starting your podcast on iHeartRadio who Killed JFK,
which I know you have been interested and fascinated with
for a long time, Who did kill JFK?
Speaker 3 (31:29):
Come answer the fucking question right now, Rob Reiner.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
Well, I'm going to answer it, but if you want
to know how I got to this answer, then you
have to listen to the podcast, because it's simple and
complicated at the same time. And what I tried to
do with the podcast is lay it out what actually
happened and try to make it as digestible for people
(31:57):
who don't know the story, and make it not so
overly explained for people who do know a lot about this.
Because what's interesting about all of this is information about
what happened on November twenty second, nineteen sixty three has
dribbled out over the last sixty years. So whatever you
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think you knew at the time, five years later, ten
years later, twenty years later, new stuff is still coming out.
Something came out within the last month or so. And
we have this guy Paul Landis, who was a Secret
Service agent who was on the follow car behind Kennedy,
who found the bullet that they called the single Bullet.
(32:44):
And that blows the whole case open because the argument
has always been was it Lee Harvey Oswald by himself
or was he part of a larger conspiracy? And here's
what's interesting. The Warrant Commission said, as it's Lee Harvey
Oswall all by himself. A little over ten years later,
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the House Select Committee on Assassinations says it was a conspiracy.
Now they don't say what this conspiracy was, but they
say the exact opposite. And because they didn't have all
the information. I interviewed the guy who was the head
legal counsel for the House Select Committee, and he himself said,
(33:26):
if I knew then what I know now, it would
have been completely different because he had no idea the
CIA's involvement and how they were involved in this. You
have to understand, and you know it wouldn't get too
far in the weeds because you listen to the podcast.
But Alan Dulles, who was the first non military guy
(33:49):
to head up the CIA, he was the gatekeeper for
the Warrant Commission, and no information about the CIA and
their relationship and their relationship to Oswald ever came out
in the Warren Commission. The House Select Committee had another
guy named George Joannides who was a CIA agent and
(34:10):
he was the gatekeeper of CIA information coming into that investigation.
Turns out he was the head of a program that
cultivated people like Lee Harvey Oswald, so he was keeping
things out and that's what when this guy Robert Blakey
heard it. It was the legal counsel. He said, Gee,
if I'd have known that, I would have investigated him.
(34:33):
I didn't know that any of this stuff. So all
this stuff has come out, and what we will tell
you is that there were elements of the CIA, and
these are all rogue elements. This is not a on
the books plan. This is done in a rogue kind
of way. And I talked to some CIA agents who
(34:54):
also said it had all the earmarks of a CIA
type operation. It's a combination of them. The Cuban exiles
who were kicked out of Cuba in nineteen fifty nine
when Castro took over and were dying to get back
into Cuba, and it was the mafia who were also
furious about not only getting kicked out of Cuba and
(35:17):
losing their hotels and casinos, but they were furious at
the Kennedys for prosecuting them for being monsters. So you
had those three elements that came together in a way
in a very simpler When you hear the story and
it's laid out, it's complicated, but then when you hear
(35:38):
how it's done, it's pretty simple.
Speaker 3 (35:40):
I can't wait to listen to it. I can't wait
to listen to it.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
And it's a never ending, fascinating, infuriating, confusing stories.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
Well, I try to make it. It is confusing, and
I try to make it as simple as understandable as possible.
Like I've said, we say at the beginning, it's the
greatest murder mystery in the history of America. There's never
been a greater murder mystery. A president of the United
States is gunned down in broad daylight on an American street.
(36:10):
And we're sixty years later and people are still trying
to put all the pieces together.
Speaker 3 (36:15):
Yeah, I agree, who killed JFK? I can't wait to listen.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
I want to talk to you about my favorite ex president,
Dick Stain, Donald Trump, pig Dick Donald Trump.
Speaker 3 (36:30):
We started with that. Where are you at today?
Speaker 1 (36:33):
I mean, I personally agree with what you said at
the top, that through hell high water.
Speaker 3 (36:41):
Indictment after indictment, a.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
Gag order after gag order, that he will be running
for president in twenty twenty four.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
And right now, if you look at the polls, he
is going to win. He is up in all the
battleground states, and when you factor in additional candidates, Bobby
Kennedy Junior, a no labels candidate, Cornell West who is
running an independent campaign. All of these will take votes
(37:10):
away from Biden in the key swing states. And that's
you know, anywhere from four to eight states that are
in play, and that's the whole American election is based
on those states. And the margins of victory in those
states are very slim. I mean, Biden won Arizona by
a slim margin, he won Georgia by a slim margin.
(37:32):
He's winning all these states by slim margin. All you
have to do is start peeling votes away from him,
and he doesn't win that. And you know, Trump may
not even get to two seventy in electoral votes. But
if Biden doesn't get to two seventy, then it's thrown
into the House of Representatives. And we know what that'll be.
They'll elect Trump. So right now, where we are with
(37:53):
a great economy that people don't believe as a great economy.
Speaker 4 (37:57):
For some reason, they're not feeling it. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
You've got unemployment at the lowest rates it's been in
fifty years, You've got inflation under control, and jobs being
created like incredible. People don't feel it. So, you know,
they say it's economy stupid. To me, it's not just
the economy stupid. It's a choice we have. We are
(38:20):
either going to decide we want to maintain the democracy
that we have after two hundred and forty eight years.
Are we going to still be a government of self
rule and a rule of law, or are we going
to give our way over to an autocracy, which is
what Donald Trump will do and said he will do.
Speaker 4 (38:39):
So the choice can't be more clear.
Speaker 2 (38:41):
And to be honest with you, and I'm gonna work
as hard as I can just figure out a way.
I even call Bobby Kennedy up and I said, Bobby,
you're you're you're going to put Trump back in the
White House. And he said, no, no, no, I'm going
to draw more votes from Trump than I will from Biden.
Speaker 4 (38:59):
That's not true. You don't know.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
There are polls that say the exact opposite. And you
have to understand that there are no Trump voters that
are going because Bobby Kennedy's on the ballot, that are
gonna leave Trump. Those people are locked in. They're not
going anywhere. The only way. The only votes he can
get are independent votes or votes that would have gone
(39:21):
to Biden.
Speaker 4 (39:23):
It doesn't. There's no argument about this.
Speaker 2 (39:25):
So I begged him and I said, please don't do this,
and you know, he's going ahead and he thinks he
can win, and I.
Speaker 3 (39:31):
Got news for what what the fuck is he talking?
Speaker 4 (39:33):
He can He can't win.
Speaker 3 (39:35):
He's not gonna win.
Speaker 4 (39:36):
No, he can't win.
Speaker 3 (39:37):
He can't win the President of the United States, Kennedy.
Speaker 1 (39:40):
Yes, yes, daddy, And that's in fucking the fact that
he thinks that is is so fucking ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
He's not gonna fucking win. He's not even gonna come.
He's not gonna be No, he's not gonna be president.
The only thing he can do is put Trump back
in the White House. And uh, you know, listen, we've
lived through it. We saw on a smaller scale, we
saw Ralph Nader put George w in the White House
over al Gore because of vote in Florida. We saw
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it in a bigger way the both elections for Clinton,
Ross Perot put Clinton in the white House. Clinton never
got fifty percent of the vote. He had forty three percent,
I think, or forty four for forty six, and then
he never got fifty percent. The first election, nineteen percent
went to Ross Paro. The second I think it was
like seven or eight percent. The point is those third
(40:33):
party candidates swing elections one way or the other. And
that's fine when you have a choice between you know,
Clinton or it's going to be George h w. I mean,
you know, I'd rather have Clinton or that. But this
is not that kind of choice. This is do you
want democracy or autocracy? That's what we're dealing with here.
Speaker 1 (40:53):
To stay on Kennedy and if you called him, you
must have some sort of relationship with him. Do you
think there's some sort of is it ego or is
it some hidden nefarious reason for him running when you
could say what you want him. This is not an
uneducated shit. The guy's more educated about politics.
Speaker 4 (41:12):
He's very smart.
Speaker 3 (41:14):
And how think that he's going to be president of
the United States.
Speaker 2 (41:17):
He's not gonna be very cares. He's a very charismatic
guy and I've known him for a long time. He's uh,
you know, he's married to a woman who was Michelle
and my assistant, you know, worked at worked with us
at the house and then you know, before she got
to her job playing Larry David's wife on Uh curb
your enthusiasm. And so I've known him for all time.
He's a very smart guy, and he's very bright, and uh,
(41:40):
you know, I used to love when he was a
part of the NRDC and he was fighting for the
river keepers and you know, fighting for the environment. But
I you know, he's gone into a direction that I
don't particularly like, you know, the anti vaxer thing and
all and certain things. But I don't know. I can't
get it in his head and say what I think
(42:02):
he thinks. But I do believe he thinks he can win.
Speaker 1 (42:06):
I am not as politically astute as you are. I
only you know what inspired me to get into pay attention,
to not get into but to pay attention more to
politics was my dislike and being personally offended that Trump
spoke the way he speaks. That's what really, you know,
(42:26):
has helped me be as educated as I am now.
And I got plenty, plenty, plenty plenty more to learn.
Speaker 4 (42:33):
Yeah, you know, I didn't.
Speaker 2 (42:34):
I've always been politically involved, you know, I've been doing
that for as long as I can remember, But I
was never on social media. Until Trump got the nomination
in twenty sixteen, I went what the hell this guy.
He's not you know, he may be smart about how
to sell himself. What I've said over the years is
(42:55):
that he's been a failure and everything he's ever done,
the only thing he's successful at is convincing people he's
not a failure, and he's great at that. And so
I got on social media. My wife said, you know,
you got to talk, you got to speak out about this,
and so I did. And I've been on social media
since then because I can't believe that this country is
(43:16):
going down this path and that it's still going down
this path. And I made a documentary about, like I say,
about Christian nationalism, which now Trump is completely tapped into.
You know, he's you know, they think of him as
the second Coming and that he's you know, sent by God,
and Trump is owning all that stuff, and that's.
Speaker 4 (43:37):
Why they'll ever leave him.
Speaker 2 (43:38):
They believe that that he's ordained, you know, he's ordained
to be president.
Speaker 4 (43:43):
And it's it's scary, it's scary.
Speaker 1 (43:45):
Based on the documentary that you have coming out, what's
the title of A robb Well.
Speaker 2 (43:49):
We're now fiddling around with the title. We have two
titles which we're fiddling around with and the press release
is going to come out soon on it, so I'll
let you know.
Speaker 4 (43:59):
But but what's great again?
Speaker 3 (44:01):
Some other titles that never made the final cut.
Speaker 2 (44:03):
I'm sure, oh yeah, sure, But in this one, it's
not an attack on Christianity. It's the exact opposite. In it,
we have some very thoughtful conservative evangelicals talking about the
danger of white nationalism to Christianity itself and that it's
being used as a political tool to gain power and
(44:25):
it is gone very far away from the teachings of Jesus.
And that's what they talk about. And so you'll see
and that the basis of January sixth is people who
are of that movement who believe that God wants them
to do this. And you know, you see it, Marjorie
(44:46):
Taylor Green, And you've got the Speaker of the House now,
you know, Mike Johnson, who is one of those people
who believes that, you know, I governed by the Word
of God.
Speaker 4 (44:58):
Not by you know what people know. You know. So
it's it's scary.
Speaker 2 (45:02):
This whole where we are is a very scary place
in this country.
Speaker 1 (45:07):
You stop me in my tracks with that ship man,
do you identify or identify are you Republican, Democrat?
Speaker 3 (45:29):
Independent?
Speaker 1 (45:30):
What do you sort of you know, I guess the
word I identify? Well, like, do you even call yourself
either one.
Speaker 2 (45:36):
I've been a Democrat my whole life. People who don't
know me, uh, you know, on social media they call
me a lib tard, they call me drinking baby's blood.
Speaker 4 (45:46):
Then I'm flying off to you know.
Speaker 3 (45:50):
Have you whatever a dream of Chrome Steins Island?
Speaker 4 (45:53):
Yeah, fairly, I've been there a lot.
Speaker 1 (45:57):
I've never been to the mo of my life, but yeah,
but I've been many times.
Speaker 4 (46:02):
Yeah, yeah, me too.
Speaker 2 (46:03):
But I'm I'm much more moderate, you know. I would
say I'm left of center for sure. But I've been
in the political world for a long time, and I
know about building consensus. I've had legislation passed here in
California where I had to bring a lot of disparate
groups together, and I understand about compromise and having to
work with the you know, the other side.
Speaker 4 (46:25):
I've done all that stuff.
Speaker 2 (46:27):
So I'm not stupid enough to think, I mean, I'm
not perfect as the enemy they of the good.
Speaker 4 (46:32):
I don't believe that.
Speaker 2 (46:33):
I believe you want to get things done for people
you fight for as hard as you can for what
you believe in. But ultimately you have to make a compromise.
But you can't compromise with people who don't believe two
plus two is four. You have to have a basic
set of givens that you say, Okay, we all believe
two plus two is four. How do we get to that?
(46:54):
How do we get there? But if you say no, no,
I believe that, then then you can't have an honestess
ussion with people. And I think that's where we are now.
The Republican Party has been co opted by people, a
lot of them will believe the world is six thousand
years old and we're tent thout whatever they believe.
Speaker 1 (47:11):
You know, I know it's hard to remember, like where
your head was exactly at in nineteen seventy nineteen seventy
one of Vietnam post Vietnam, and you're playing one of
these college post college I don't know meadthead And I
say that with all due of respect.
Speaker 4 (47:27):
You know it went to college with all with love.
You're saying it with love.
Speaker 3 (47:30):
On fucking meat heead, I mean, are you kidding me?
Speaker 1 (47:34):
But did you ever imagine that the country would be
as divided as it is now.
Speaker 4 (47:41):
Well, that's the thing.
Speaker 2 (47:42):
That's what's crazy, I mean, and why I've been so
fixated on the Kennedy assassination is because when Kennedy died,
he was planning to get us out of Vietnam. He
had written this memo which took a thousand troops out
of Vietnam right away, all military out of Vietnam by
(48:02):
the end of nineteen sixty five. Then he gets assassinated.
Linda Johnson becomes president and we go full bore into
Vietnam and we were, you know, in a quagmire there
for a long time. That was the beginning of the divide.
We started to divide. Then half the country was against
the war in Vietnam, half the country was in favor
of it. And so we started that divide, and then
(48:25):
things started to you know, close.
Speaker 4 (48:27):
Up a little bit.
Speaker 2 (48:28):
You know. Johnson passed a lot of great legislation, the
Civil Rights Act, the Voting Rights Act, Medicare, Medicaid, all
those things got passed, and we were on a good
trajectory of becoming this pluralistic society where we had. And
it culminated with Barack Obama becoming president and we say,
oh good, finally the realization of America is finally coming
(48:53):
to fruition. And then we see the backlash. And the
backlash is all these people that were sub merged for
all this time where you couldn't be, you know, you
couldn't be overtly racist and all that stuff. So now
it's bubbled up and they've got a vessel in Trump
and we're seeing this the divide open up even bigger
(49:15):
than it was during Vietnam.
Speaker 3 (49:18):
That's a good answer, and I appreciate that.
Speaker 1 (49:20):
And you speak of overtly racism, overtly racist, you know,
for me as a Jewish person, I'm fifty three.
Speaker 3 (49:29):
I grew up in New York City, right Manhattan.
Speaker 1 (49:32):
I never ever, to be honest with you, I've never
dealt face to face with anti Semitism in my life
still to this day, fortunately right in my face.
Speaker 3 (49:42):
You know, these last three.
Speaker 1 (49:44):
Weeks of the open anti semitism towards Jewish people, towards Israel,
are you surprised?
Speaker 3 (49:57):
How has it affected you? How?
Speaker 1 (50:00):
Oh are you processing everything that is going on in
the world right now? Because just when you know, for me,
you know, I don't know if you see my my
rants on Trump, you know, I had to put that
shit on the back burner, you know, And I didn't.
Speaker 2 (50:12):
No, no, because it No, you're right. I mean I've
seen those rants and they're funny and they're great and
they're all that, But no, you can't because the world
is now being torn apart, and you know, as a
Jewish person myself, it's frightening. I mean, anti Semitism has
always been there as long as I can remember, but
(50:33):
like you, I grew up in the Bronx and and
in New York and then out here in Los Angeles,
and I never came face to face with it like
that because I'm in a world where there are a
lot of Jewish people and you know, and so on.
But the rampant anti Semitism now is very frightening, and
you're seeing it on college campuses and you know, speaking
(50:54):
and I yesterday I actually did a you know, a
video for this group that are Holocaust survivors, people who
have you know, and they're you know, not many of
them left. I have my aunt who lives in Atlanta.
She lost her entire family and she was in Aschwitz
and she's survived. And my wife's mother also was in
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Ashwitz and lost her entire family there, and she was
the only survivor from her family. So I'm very conscious
of where this can go, you know, where this kind
of hatred can go, and when it's marshaled by someone
like it was in the thirties with Hitler, we see
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where it can go. And I just tell people, don't
think it can't happen. Don't think it can happen. All
you need to get is somebody to be the vessel
of all of that. And so let's see. I mean,
it's scary, it's really scary.
Speaker 3 (51:52):
Yeah, it is scary, and it can go.
Speaker 1 (51:54):
And you know, I was saying the other day, if
the IDF hadn't showed up on October seventh, they weren't.
Speaker 3 (52:04):
Going to stop.
Speaker 1 (52:05):
It wasn't like they were like, we want to just
do this, that and the third they would have kept going.
And if they could that day, they would have kept going.
They would have done the whole thing in one day.
Speaker 2 (52:14):
Yes, yes, And here's what's tricky about all this. So
you have to defend yourself and you have to attack back.
I mean, you can't just let somebody do what you
just said. But at a certain point, wy it shifts
and then people said, saying, now we're seeing, yes, fourteen
hundred people who killed babies and destroyed and raping.
Speaker 4 (52:35):
And all that horror.
Speaker 2 (52:36):
But now we're doing that and you're seeing the images
of those little babies and and and people who are
innocent and they don't subscribe to amos. So is this
the solution? There has to be a way that we
don't do it, you know, full bore. I worry about this,
you know, I worry about the hostage. I worry about
where's are standing in the world and if we're not
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going to be for peace for everyone. And there's two
state solutions a million miles away, but that ultimately has
to be where we wind up. And I don't know
if we ever can wind up there, because my feeling is,
you kill these harmas people and twenty more grow in
their place.
Speaker 4 (53:14):
You know, it's you know.
Speaker 2 (53:16):
You don't you can't kill hatred. You know you can't
kill hatred. You just have to find a way of
containing it somehow and not letting it bubble to the
surface like it has. And it's not just you know,
in the Middle East, it's you know, it's what when
we went into a rock that was like the stupidest
thing we could ever have done. I said, you know,
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didn't anybody ever see Lawrence of Arabia. You know you're
not gonna walk in there and plunk a democracy down.
It's like, oh well, just make that a democracy doesn't
work that way. So you know, this is all scary times,
and it's it's scary to be a Jew and it's
scary to be a Muslim. You know, it's scary for
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on both sides right now, and we got to find
a way to dial it down.
Speaker 4 (54:02):
I don't know that that's what we're doing right now.
I agree.
Speaker 3 (54:06):
I'm gonna let you go, Rob Reiner, I will.
Speaker 4 (54:09):
First before we go.
Speaker 2 (54:10):
Before we go, you just have to say what The
JFK podcast, it starts on November eighth.
Speaker 1 (54:17):
November eighth, did you say did we say that? I'm
saying it again. We said it once and I'll say
it at the top. The JFK Podcast, created directed by
the great director, actor, performer who killed JFK on iHeartRadio.
It premieres on November eighth. So many more things in
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the chamber. You said it, and I'm gonna I'm gonna
listen Rob next year when this strike is done. This
is spinal tap. We're gonna have is it the reunion?
Speaker 4 (54:49):
Is it?
Speaker 2 (54:49):
This is spinal Tap Part two? Do you do you
have I'm not gonna tell you. I'm not gonna tell
you we have a top story, but we're getting it
done well, yes, as soon as the strike's sover.
Speaker 1 (55:01):
And I also suggest if people want some levity, you
can go watch any and all episodes of All in
the Family, The Princess Bride, when Harry Sally always makes
you smile, stand by me. This is spinal tap, misery,
a few good men, or anything that has anything to
do with the great Rob Reiner, his family, Car Reiner
(55:23):
and everything that you've touched. It has just brought joy
to the world. And I suggest people watching out because
we needed more than ever. What a pleasure, Like I said, Rob,
I've been a fan for such a long time as
an actor, as a director, as a producer, and as
a commentator on what's going on in the world today.
It was really a pleasure, and I can't wait to
listen to the podcast and the documentary with Albert Brooks.
Speaker 2 (55:46):
Thank you, Michael Rapperboard. I had a fun time being
on your show.
Speaker 4 (55:49):
Thank you, Rob.
Speaker 3 (55:50):
I'll talk to you.
Speaker 2 (55:50):
So my friend, okay, all right, y
I'm such a fan Rob Reiner. The I know you're
gonna blush, but you are great. The great writer, director, producer, actor,
child of the Hollywood film business from New York, director
of the Princess Bride, when Harry met Sally. A few
(00:33):
good men. This is fucking spinal tap misery. The American
President acted in so many things, of course, just an advocate,
an outspoken advocate, and now a podcaster my life. You
have your documentary defending My Life with Albert Brooks, the
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great Albert Brooks, which that must have been so much fun.
I mean, the two you must, I mean, forget the work,
just hanging around with him.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Well, we're childhood friends, you know, we've we met each
other in high school. We've been best friends since and
we shared a house together. And yeah, so it was
that was a real labor of love.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
That's so cool. That is so cool. And now you
have a podcast Who Killed JFK? Which I'm just going
to say this off the top to you, and I'm
going to say this to anybody listening. There's no way
I'm going to be able to ask all the questions
that somebody should ask, Rob Reiner. It's impossible to do that.
I mean, you should have your own documentary the things
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you've seen, the things you've done, the stories, the parties,
the actors you've worked with, the actors you've directed.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Well, maybe Michael, I'll hire you. Maybe you can make
the documentary about me.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
That would be fucking awesome.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
You do have filmmaking skills.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
I have filmmaking skills, and I've directed a couple of documentaries,
and I know.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Just like you know, they are an arduous, challenging.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
Yeah, very difficult, Yeah, very difficult.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
Yeah, I mean, just first, since we're in there, like,
wouldn't you say, on some level, making a documentary is
even more challenging than making a scripted film because of
the unpredictability.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Well, the thing about, you know, making a first real
documentary I made, you know, Spinal Tap was a fake
documentary that was fun and easy to do, even though
there was no script Because everybody in the film was
an improvisational actor. The whole film was improvised, so it
felt natural to all of us and I didn't have
any problems with it. Matter of fact, we're preparing a
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sequel to Spinal Tap, which we're going to start shooting
early part of next year.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
I gotta stop you.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
I gotta stop you, and I just have to say,
please make that movie.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Film. Fans need it, the world needs it.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
There will be no better time to alleviate the craziness
that's going on with a spinal tap reunion film.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
Please do not let anything get in the way of that.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Well, No, we're bulling ahead here. I mean we're waiting
for hopefully the writer's strike will be over soon. We're
hearing good things strike negotiations. Yeah, I mean, excuse me,
I said writers. I meant actors strike. The writer's strike
is over, Yeah, the actor strike. And so once that happen,
you know, once that we're ready to go and we've
got a good story and we're ready to go.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Man, I mean, that would be a fucking it just
like warms my heart to even think and to hear
you say that. Let me just start with this. I
said I was gonna start with Trump again. I can't
ask all the questions. I'm just gonna and I'm not
even gonna go into so much of what you know,
like how you were friends with Albert Brooks and the
other people that you were friends with around Los Angeles
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and Hollywood and the things that you saw. But you know,
for me, watching All in the Family was such a
unique thing because I didn't understand that it was even
a show. I didn't understand that it was a sitcom.
I didn't understand that these were characters. It was so
real from the top down, the set, the opening, the performances,
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Carol O'Connor, all of you guys were so incredible. When
you look back on that time working as an actor,
what do you remember the most and specifically what was
Carol O'Connor like in between takes? Because when I saw
him do other things afterwards and do things that he
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had done before Archie Bunker, I was like, I didn't
it didn't make sense to me because he was Archie
Bunker to me.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
Right.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
And as a matter of fact, he was in the
film Cleopatra, and when it came out, he had, you know,
all the family had already been out and people would
go to the theater and the you know, in the
scene where they're gonna you know, where they're gonna kill Caesar,
you know, somebody said.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
Go get a machi.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
You know, he was, but he was very, very very
different from the ca character he played. As a matter
of fact a lot many people know. But he was
even more liberal than I am.
Speaker 4 (05:06):
You know.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
He was way to the left of me, And which
is interesting because he played the bigot and I played
the liberal, but he was, you know, I died in
the wool liberal, you know, so he was very different.
But the two things that I take away from it
the most, that I remember the most, that is it
was for me going to getting my graduate degree, you know,
(05:27):
in show business, because I learned, you know, I wrote
some of the episodes with my partner Phil Michigan. When
I wasn't in the scene, i'd spend my time in
the writer's room. I'd go to the booth where the
director was and I'd learn about how to put things together.
We did it in front of a live audience, so
I learned what audience has responded to and how you
craft a little stage play, which is what it was.
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And Carol taught me about acting and how you know.
He said, if the story in the script is good,
you don't have to make faces, you don't have to
do anything. Let the audience in just by looking, you know,
And so he taught me about the acting. And then
Norman Lear, who was like a second father to me.
I mean, he's you know, I love him dearly, and
(06:11):
you know he's one hundred and one now and just
still hanging in there. But I mean, you know, I
love him like a second father. And he taught us
about pushing the ennge of the envelope. Really he was
what I called, it's a Yiddish term, which you, Michael,
you know, probably won't understand.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
Not being of no I know you would get this.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
But he's what I called a cook leffel akok lefvel.
It's a Yiddish phrase means a ladle, something that stirs
the pot. And that's what he did every single episode.
It was pushing us to get more, to try to
make it edgier, to try to you know, find you know,
dig into ourselves and find a truth within ourselves to
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push out into the character and into the stories.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
So those are the experiences.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
I mean. We never thought it was going to be
a success. So we thought, well, let's do the best
we can and you know, put it all out there,
and we had no idea that it was going to
be successful. It came out on I think a Tuesday,
you know, in nineteen seventy one and CBS had a disclaimer.
They put a disclaimer on basically saying, you know, we
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don't subscribe to the you know the position. Basically, they
were saying, you know, watch this show at your own risk.
We don't know how it got on. Somehow it's on
the air, but you know, don't we don't want to
have anything to do with it. You watch it, if
you like it, fine, you know, But then it became successful.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
I personally think that not only do I think a
show like that is needed now, but I personally think
that a show like that would do well, particularly right now.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Well, I mean, we can't be more divided. I mean
that's for sure, and you know, talk about red state,
blue state. I mean we're we're living in it now.
And I think you could have now you know, we're
also in a PC world now. It would probably have
to be you know, either streamed or you know something.
He could never be on regular television, But yes, I
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agree with you, I think it could.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
There could be a show like that, now.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
Don't don't you think though, Like when you say it
couldn't be on regular television, I think it would be.
You know, we all know that network TV isn't what
it was even five years ago, let alone in nineteen
seventy one or the eighties and the nineties or anything.
But me personally, I feel like, you know, there's no
cursing on it.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
There's no anything.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
And I feel like, literally, if you took these scripts
of all in the Family and you remade it, and
you took you know, the Vietnam War and change it
to this, and change it to that, and you change
you know, black lives matter to something, I literally think
you can do the exact same show today and it.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
Would do significantly better.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
And the majority of sitcom shows that are going on
because I feel like we need it, and I feel
like it should be done on a PC format and
it should be done where you don't need to be
on a streamer.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
I mean, well, I mean, I you know, I would
hope you would be right, but I know, you know,
you can't. You know in the show that the N
word was used, right and you can't use that now.
And there are certain you know, racial epithets that were
flung around, you know, flying out of Archie's mouth that
I don't think you know, And to me, that's what
made it real. I mean, he was a bigot, he
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you know, and there are still those people and so yeah,
you know, I don't know that you could say those things.
Speaker 4 (09:40):
I mean, you know, you get canceled.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Yeah, I guess I just think that, you know, like
I mean today when we're taping November first, I think
that it's needed more and the conversations and the discussions
and the there's just so many great memories I have.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
From watching it.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
When you see clips pop up, I know you're on
social media, like do you look at it? Are you
able to I appreciate it as a fan or are
you like, oh, yeah, that day my back was hurting
that day, you know, my car, Like, how are you
able to see?
Speaker 3 (10:07):
When you see those clips? What do they how do
they process with you?
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Well, it's funny because I haven't really watched the show
in you know, decades. I mean it was on I
gues say, nineteen seventy. It's you know, what is that?
That's fifty years? You know, I haven't really Yeah, it's insane.
So I haven't really watched the show. But I am
on you know, the Twitter now x and every once
in a while something will pop up and I'll go, oh,
look at that. I used to be on that show.
(10:32):
You know, it was weird. It's weird, but then I'll
just look at it as was it good? I mean,
did we do there? And I'm always surprised at how
good it is. It's still really good. And my kids,
you know, when they started watching when they were younger,
they kept saying, Dad, you know, it sounds like you,
but it doesn't look like you. It's is that you.
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You know, they couldn't imagine that I ever looked like that.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Like I said, I'm going to preface this one more
time about not being able to ask you every single thing.
I would love to ask you what excites you the
most creatively today? Like I said, you've done so much
what you know artists and you are a true artist.
You know, we're not like athletes were able to go
into the wheels fall off. Your father went, I'm sure
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until the wheels, you know, they slow down, but we
still have, you know, the impotence to you know, create,
what inspires you as an artist as a creator, as
a producer, as a director, as a performer. Today at
your age, how old are you now?
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Rob, I'm seventy six, Shit, you look six. Really fucking
Bear Gray Beery looks good.
Speaker 4 (11:40):
Though, I mean, well, you know good and not in
You're not like coming on to me, are you?
Speaker 3 (11:46):
No?
Speaker 1 (11:46):
No, no, no no no no hear. But did you
get a text message from me before?
Speaker 3 (11:50):
That will get later?
Speaker 4 (11:51):
Yeah, when you say what are you wearing or something
like that?
Speaker 3 (11:54):
Yes, wait, did you already get the text?
Speaker 2 (11:58):
No? I think a lot of out. You know, how
many more productive years I will have, you know? And
right now I'm firing on a lot of cylinders. I
got a documentary out, I got it. I've actually produced
another documentary about Christian nationalism and the danger it is
to our country and to Christianity, and that's, you know,
(12:19):
coming out next year. And I've got this JFK podcast
and we're talking about you know, like I said, we're
going to do a sequel SPOTSTP. So I got a
lot of things that I'm doing and I think about
a lot about how many more years can I do stuff?
And I look at Clint Eastwood and he was ninety whatever.
But you know, I just like doing this stuff, and
(12:40):
I try to find things that resonate with me in
the theatrical area. I try to find things that I
can put all of what I've learned at this point
or all of what I think about into a project
and find a way of making it entertaining and all
of that. So I have a few things that I
still want to do, and uh, I just hope, you know,
(13:02):
like you say, until the wheels come off, until somebody says,
you know, you can't do this anymore, I want to
keep going.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
Yeah, podcast, I want to ask you specifically about actors
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that you have directed, because so many actors, as you know,
it's like a different personal relationship.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
You're almost like a therapist.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
You're a coach, you're a messuse, you're a friend, you're
a best friend.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
But no, no happy endings. No, no, no, there's never
happy end No.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
It's a boat board. You're just a straight up like
it's a kissing massage.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
Yes, and they keep their clothes on.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
Absolutely.
Speaker 4 (13:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
I'll start with the top, you know, and I know
you've answered this question before directing Jack Nicholson. What is
the strategy, what is the groove?
Speaker 3 (14:08):
What is he like on set? I'm gonna just is
he a three take guy? Is he a guy that
tries things? What was it like working with him?
Speaker 1 (14:18):
Directing him in one of his most iconic performances, in
a few good men.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Well, first of all, he's in the pantheon of the
great actors screen actors of all time. Hey, I mean period,
you know. And so he is a professional. He first
of all, he loves to act, and he's a professional.
He comes to work prepared. I remember when we first
started rehearsals. We have a tip what they call a
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table read. Everybody sits around the table and we read
the script and Jack comes with a full performance. What
I saw at the table is essentially what I wind
up seeing on screen, and it sends a message to
every other actor we you know, we had Tom Cruise
and Kevin Bacon and you know me Moore, I mean
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all these he's really young, great actors, and when they
see Jack coming to play, they it sends a message
to them that's we bet beyond our game too. It's
like watching Babe Ruth. It's like being on the Yankees,
you know, And all of a sudden, Babe Ruth steps
in the cage and he starts hitting him into the
upper deck. Everybody says, oh, okay, this is for real.
(15:31):
We got to do this. And Jack was always like that.
He was like that all the way. Now in that
famous scene where he does that great speech. You know
you can't handle the truth that scene. You know, it's
a long speech. He's got a long speech. And I
said to Jack, I said, Jack, you know I can
do one of two things.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
Let me.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
I can either, if you're ready, I can shoot you first,
or I have a lot of cutaways. I have a
lot of reactions with you know, Kevin Bacon and Kevin
Pollock and to me and Tom and all this, and
I can shoot their reactions and then I can turn
around and shoot your part whatever you like. And he says, well,
why don't you, you know, shoot them, and then I'll
(16:12):
lit'll give me a chance to you know, work into it.
And so I said, fine. So now we're shooting the reactions,
and the first take is exactly how you see it
in the film. He does it a third, second time,
a third time, a fourth time. I finally, I said, Jack,
you know, why don't you save a little bit when
I come around and shoot you.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
He says, rab, you don't understand. I love to act.
He says, I don't get good parts like this always.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
You know, And that was his thing. It was the same.
And I turned around. It was the same performance. He's
he's a brilliant actor. And but you know, every actors different.
You know, some actors like a lot of attention. Other
actors want to be left alone, and you have to
figure that out. Some actors don't want you to give
a line reading. Now, being an actor and you know,
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having a feel for music, I can tell people how
to say a line if it's a comedy thing that
they don't get. Jack would ask me sometimes, how do
you want me to say it? Tom Cruise asked me.
And those actors who ask you are the most secure
of all actors because they don't care. They're just wanting
to get the best performance. The actors who are insecure say,
(17:28):
don't tell me, I don't want to know, you know,
like that kind of thing. So, you know, a couple
of times I would give. I gave Jack a line reading,
I gave Tom a line reading.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
I love that so much. I love that so much.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
And me personally, I like line readings from directors because
you know all the philosophical uh you know, high falutin.
You know, it's like, okay, if I'm not kidding it,
how do you want me to say it?
Speaker 3 (17:51):
Boom boom.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
It's just like it's a plug and play that way,
and it just cuts to it.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
And I think it is true.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
You're they're more secure in general to ask and it
saves everybody's time.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Yeah, no, it does, especially when it's a comedy moment
and you want to just make and because I remember
the one moment but Tom says, you know, dem is
leaving his apartment and she starts to say something and
he says, I know what you're going to say.
Speaker 4 (18:14):
You know, you love you know, you like working with me.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
It's been great and I'm smart and this, and you
know it's because they're going to go into court the
next day and this, that and the other. And she says, no,
I was just going to say we're matching socks. And
he just says, okay, good tip, you know, and that's all.
And he says, how do you want me to say it?
I said, okay, good tip.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
You know, that's good.
Speaker 4 (18:37):
That was it.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Did you ever imagine, I mean Tom Cruise was a
star at that point, but he's in a different planet.
Could you ever imagine that there would be stars as
magnificent And he's a planet of Hollywood, Like he's like
his own planet.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
Well he's like Tom Cruise is I think the only
remaining star in Hollywood that you can bank on. I
mean that used to be a star with somebody who
would bring people to the theater, you know. And Tom
is like the last of the great old fashion movie stars.
(19:12):
I mean a lot of great actors. There are a
lot of stars. Leonardo DiCaprio, to me, is one of
the most brilliant actors, maybe the most brilliant, but it's.
Speaker 4 (19:21):
Like he's an actor in a part.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
Where's Tom Cruise is, Like you say, he's above He's
bigger than all that. And I think he's like the
last remaining old fashion movie star.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
Yeah, or new fashion movie star, because I don't.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
Know if that a little but I mean I mean, yeah, no,
it's it's it just keeps transcending it and so yeah,
and he's he's handled his career really well. I wish
that Tom would do something more character driven or personal.
You know, he used to balance those things.
Speaker 4 (19:51):
He'd do the more.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
You know, the mission impossible type things, and he'd you know,
balance it off with other things. I wish he would
do a little bit more of that. But I'm not
gonna tell him what to do. He knows what to do.
He's a great actor.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
He knows what to do. I'm gonna ask you other
actors like or just When Harry MT.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
Sally.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
It needs no introduction, it needs no reference. The fucking
film is beautiful. It's, you know, a top film of
so many people. It's so captured the romance, the highs
and lows, the thrills of victory, the agony of defeat
in a relationship. As a New Yorker, you guys shot
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it beautifully, I mean perfectly. The New York of When
Harry MT. Sally is so just it's like a great meal.
Every time you look at it and you're just like
ough and you've seen it and you've seen them walk
in the park and you recognize the leaves from when
you first see it and the snow and all that stuff.
What was their chemistry like? And how did you guys
have fun making that movie? I imagine you and Billy
(20:49):
have known each other and what was that?
Speaker 4 (20:51):
Yeah, No, I met Billy.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
He was cast in an episode of All in the
Family and he was cast as as my best friend,
and so normally, you know, he probably knew something. So
we became friends. Then we've been friends ever since. And so, yeah,
that was fun. It was fun to work with Billy
because with Billy you're not only getting the guy who
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can act the part, but you're getting freebies, and you're
getting big freebies. I mean, he wrote the line I'll
have what she's having, which is the biggest and funniest
line of any film.
Speaker 4 (21:27):
I've ever done.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
And he came up with that line, so and a
number of other lines in the film. So that's the
gift you get with Billy. You get a lot of freebies.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
Oh that's that's good. That's really good. I love that.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
The late great Jimmy Kahn one of the great tough
guy actors, charismatic actors, a great Jewish actor who a
lot of people forget was a Jewish you know, tough
guy personified. You worked with him on Misery. In my opinion,
his comeback film along with Kathy Bates. This is a
goddamn fucking another classic. I mean a goddamn fucking classic.
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You make fucking classics, Rob Reiner, what was his style
of acting like and what is Kathy Bates like when
you're directing her in Misery.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
Well, it's interesting you bring that up, because, first of all,
he was a Jewish guy, and he was a cowboy.
Speaker 4 (22:22):
You know.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
He used to ride in a rodeo and he used
to rope calf He was a caff roper, and so
that was always weird to me, a Jewish cowboy anyway.
But Jimmy's style was totally instinctive. He didn't want to
have rehearsals. He just whatever would come out. Kathy was
a stage trained actress and she liked lots of rehearsals,
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so it was interesting. We had to do more rehearsals
than Jimmy would have liked and less rehearsals than Kathy
would have liked. But they worked great together. They were
amazing together. And I think it worked well for Jimmy
because he, you know, he's very physical, like you say, he's,
you know, macho kind of guy. He's a cowboy, right,
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rides horses and stuff. And the idea that he would
be stuck in a bed that he could not be physical,
he couldn't move for the whole movie. It was like
a perfect thing for him because it restricted him and
made his frustration even greater. And every day I would
come to the set and I would say to Jimmy
I'd walk in close.
Speaker 4 (23:22):
I said, Jimmy, like, in this scene, what I want
is for you to be in bed. And then I
walked away.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
Every day I said that in this scene you're in bed,
I just walked away.
Speaker 4 (23:37):
That is funny.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
But he was great, and he his frustration came out
and it was really good.
Speaker 4 (23:43):
I love that so much.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
I mean, I don't want to go into every film,
but again, The Princess Bride stand by Me is such
another beautiful, beautiful, beautiful film that I just rewatched and
I put on I was doing a list of top
of my favorite summer films, you know, and I just
rewatched it this summer. When you're acting you acted in
the Wolf of Wall Street. When you're acting in something
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like that, and obviously you're a fan, I don't have
to ask. You're a fan of cinema, you're a fan
of actors, you're a fan of films. When you're acting
under scoresese and you don't have to worry about every
single thing, are you like, this is a day at
the beach? Are you kind of checking out what he
does because I'm sure you love what he does?
Speaker 3 (24:30):
Like, what is that like for you?
Speaker 4 (24:31):
And what was specifically, like it is like a day
at the beach. I love.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
You know, to act is fun because you don't have
the responsibilities. I mean, you're just there. And you know,
especially when you know with somebody like Martin Scorre says,
I mean, the guy's brilliant. He's a great, great filmmaker,
so you don't have to worry about anything. And he
makes you feel comfortable, let you improvise. He lets you
do whatever you want. And you know, I love being
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on other people's sets because I see how they I mean,
you know, I did a partner Woody Allen film and
I saw how he liked to work. And to me,
you know, it's fun because I get to see what
other people do. I remember one time Ron Ron Howard
sent me. He wanted me to be in something, and
he said, I got this thing if you'd like to do.
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I said, yeah, I'll be in it. And he said,
well don't you want Let me send you the script.
You'll read it and see if I says, I don't
have to read it. I said, if it's no good,
it's not my fault.
Speaker 4 (25:27):
A hahaha. I'm just acting. I'm an actor.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
I'm not good, you know, and I try, you know,
so it to me, it's just fun. It's just fun
to do and there's not a lot of responsibility, which
is kind of fun.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
What did you take away or what did you notice
a surprised interesting about working for Scorsese as an actor.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
Well, like I say, he lets you play, I mean
you can improvise, and he lets you do that, and
so I was comfortable doing that in a number of scenes.
And and but if you have people that you can
do it with, it's great. Like one scene with Jonah Hill,
I mean, you know, you could play back and forth
with him. There was one scene I remember I was
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sitting there, you know, I'm standing with Leo's in the middle,
and then as Jon Favreau was a great director too,
and he's the law he's his lawyer, and we're standing
there and he's got it's in front of this beautiful
setting on Long Island with his wife and his kid
and their horseback riding and there's a great, you know,
beautiful acreage and everything. And I'm saying to him, I said, look,
(26:32):
his lawyer says, look, you know, we can make a
settlement here for this, and you can. You'll only go
to jail for a year or two, and you know,
or we can settle it in the thing. And he
goes and I says, listen to what he says. Listen
to what he says. You don't want to throw this
all away. Look, you got your wife, your kids. You
know you don't want to throw this all away. And
he says, I hear you. And I said, and then
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that was the end of the scene. I said, no,
I don't think you hear me. I don't hear you
hearing me. And that, to me, it was like I
felt like I was in the Scorsese film. You know,
it's like, you know, you don't even know what you
mean by you, you know, like in Raging Bull. And
then I said, actually said, I feel like I'm in
a Martin Scorsese film.
Speaker 4 (27:17):
And he said, all right, cut it.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
You know that pod.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
Just to move off of Hollywood. The actors strike, the
writers strike. You know, it's so it's been so frustrating,
you know, the business has changed so much, just as
at the time that I've been in it. Do you
see an end of the actor's strike? And I mean,
you know, my the this is what my suggestion is.
At this point, our biggest stars, the biggest time Cruz,
(28:01):
Margot Robbie, who just made a piece of property worth
a billion dollars, Denzel Leonardo, you know you could get
the fifteen best, the biggest best, Jennifer Lawrence, Viola Davis,
you know, get them. They go in front of these
producers and they represent the actors and they go, what
the fuck? You know, Like, if I'm Margot Robbie, I mean,
(28:22):
you can't tell her no, she just made a piece
of property that was worth a billion dollars. Where do
you see this going? How do you see this ending?
You know, both signs because you're you're probably an ever.
You get insurance from up the wazoo, your screen actors Guild,
your producer's Guild.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
Your writers guild. What what do you see? Just in
regards to the actors.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
Rob Well, I mean, like you say, it's a very
strange time, and uh, I don't think we know how
this is all gonna shake out right now. I think
that the actors, you know, are making progress and hopefully
they'll they'll settle. But the contract that they signed usually
goes for three years, and in three years time, this
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landscape is going to change dramatically and we don't know
the effects of AI and where that's going to go.
We don't know whether or not all the streaming platforms
are still going to exist the way they do. Is
there going to be commercials on streaming platforms and it's
not going to just be about subscription And where are
(29:26):
the revenue streams coming? And it's now it's all unknown,
So you have to make a deal that's somewhat good.
It's as good as you can, and then hopefully if
it starts to form itself and shake itself out in
a certain way, then you can address it a little better,
because right now we're in a very gray, amorphous area
(29:48):
in terms of where revenue is going to come from.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
Yeah, it's a good way to put it.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
And you're right, I didn't even think, you know, of
three years ahead how it's going to change, because who
the hell knows those what kind of technology. I mean,
if you've played around with this AI shit, it's it's
shocking what it does. Yeah, and I've only done it,
you know, like on apps on my phone. You know
that there's music, there's all sorts.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
Of shit that Yeah, I mean, if you're an actor,
it seems to me It's an easier thing to control
if you're an actor, because there should be ways of
copywriting your your image and your voice and all of
that so that they can't take certain things of you
and use them in ways that you don't agree on.
(30:36):
With writers, it's tougher because they can take writing samples
from everywhere and you can't identify where that came from
in terms of creating a new product. So I think
it's much tougher for writers than it is for actors,
to be honest, I agree in terms of controlling AI.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
I agree, that's the scariest part. But they made it deal.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
And still the actors are out here with signs and
it's getting cold in New York.
Speaker 4 (31:05):
Rob.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
The party you know, like I were like partying out
there is Today was the first cold is day.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
So we need to get this shit fixed.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
I'm gonna totally pivot to politics and social stuff. And
since you are starting your podcast on iHeartRadio who Killed JFK,
which I know you have been interested and fascinated with
for a long time, Who did kill JFK?
Speaker 3 (31:29):
Come answer the fucking question right now, Rob Reiner.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
Well, I'm going to answer it, but if you want
to know how I got to this answer, then you
have to listen to the podcast, because it's simple and
complicated at the same time. And what I tried to
do with the podcast is lay it out what actually
happened and try to make it as digestible for people
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who don't know the story, and make it not so
overly explained for people who do know a lot about this.
Because what's interesting about all of this is information about
what happened on November twenty second, nineteen sixty three has
dribbled out over the last sixty years. So whatever you
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think you knew at the time, five years later, ten
years later, twenty years later, new stuff is still coming out.
Something came out within the last month or so. And
we have this guy Paul Landis, who was a Secret
Service agent who was on the follow car behind Kennedy,
who found the bullet that they called the single Bullet.
(32:44):
And that blows the whole case open because the argument
has always been was it Lee Harvey Oswald by himself
or was he part of a larger conspiracy? And here's
what's interesting. The Warrant Commission said, as it's Lee Harvey
Oswall all by himself. A little over ten years later,
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the House Select Committee on Assassinations says it was a conspiracy.
Now they don't say what this conspiracy was, but they
say the exact opposite. And because they didn't have all
the information. I interviewed the guy who was the head
legal counsel for the House Select Committee, and he himself said,
(33:26):
if I knew then what I know now, it would
have been completely different because he had no idea the
CIA's involvement and how they were involved in this. You
have to understand, and you know it wouldn't get too
far in the weeds because you listen to the podcast.
But Alan Dulles, who was the first non military guy
(33:49):
to head up the CIA, he was the gatekeeper for
the Warrant Commission, and no information about the CIA and
their relationship and their relationship to Oswald ever came out
in the Warren Commission. The House Select Committee had another
guy named George Joannides who was a CIA agent and
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he was the gatekeeper of CIA information coming into that investigation.
Turns out he was the head of a program that
cultivated people like Lee Harvey Oswald, so he was keeping
things out and that's what when this guy Robert Blakey
heard it. It was the legal counsel. He said, Gee,
if I'd have known that, I would have investigated him.
(34:33):
I didn't know that any of this stuff. So all
this stuff has come out, and what we will tell
you is that there were elements of the CIA, and
these are all rogue elements. This is not a on
the books plan. This is done in a rogue kind
of way. And I talked to some CIA agents who
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also said it had all the earmarks of a CIA
type operation. It's a combination of them. The Cuban exiles
who were kicked out of Cuba in nineteen fifty nine
when Castro took over and were dying to get back
into Cuba, and it was the mafia who were also
furious about not only getting kicked out of Cuba and
(35:17):
losing their hotels and casinos, but they were furious at
the Kennedys for prosecuting them for being monsters. So you
had those three elements that came together in a way
in a very simpler When you hear the story and
it's laid out, it's complicated, but then when you hear
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how it's done, it's pretty simple.
Speaker 3 (35:40):
I can't wait to listen to it. I can't wait
to listen to it.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
And it's a never ending, fascinating, infuriating, confusing stories.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
Well, I try to make it. It is confusing, and
I try to make it as simple as understandable as possible.
Like I've said, we say at the beginning, it's the
greatest murder mystery in the history of America. There's never
been a greater murder mystery. A president of the United
States is gunned down in broad daylight on an American street.
(36:10):
And we're sixty years later and people are still trying
to put all the pieces together.
Speaker 3 (36:15):
Yeah, I agree, who killed JFK? I can't wait to listen.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
I want to talk to you about my favorite ex president,
Dick Stain, Donald Trump, pig Dick Donald Trump.
Speaker 3 (36:30):
We started with that. Where are you at today?
Speaker 1 (36:33):
I mean, I personally agree with what you said at
the top, that through hell high water.
Speaker 3 (36:41):
Indictment after indictment, a.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
Gag order after gag order, that he will be running
for president in twenty twenty four.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
And right now, if you look at the polls, he
is going to win. He is up in all the
battleground states, and when you factor in additional candidates, Bobby
Kennedy Junior, a no labels candidate, Cornell West who is
running an independent campaign. All of these will take votes
(37:10):
away from Biden in the key swing states. And that's
you know, anywhere from four to eight states that are
in play, and that's the whole American election is based
on those states. And the margins of victory in those
states are very slim. I mean, Biden won Arizona by
a slim margin, he won Georgia by a slim margin.
(37:32):
He's winning all these states by slim margin. All you
have to do is start peeling votes away from him,
and he doesn't win that. And you know, Trump may
not even get to two seventy in electoral votes. But
if Biden doesn't get to two seventy, then it's thrown
into the House of Representatives. And we know what that'll be.
They'll elect Trump. So right now, where we are with
(37:53):
a great economy that people don't believe as a great economy.
Speaker 4 (37:57):
For some reason, they're not feeling it. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
You've got unemployment at the lowest rates it's been in
fifty years, You've got inflation under control, and jobs being
created like incredible. People don't feel it. So, you know,
they say it's economy stupid. To me, it's not just
the economy stupid. It's a choice we have. We are
(38:20):
either going to decide we want to maintain the democracy
that we have after two hundred and forty eight years.
Are we going to still be a government of self
rule and a rule of law, or are we going
to give our way over to an autocracy, which is
what Donald Trump will do and said he will do.
Speaker 4 (38:39):
So the choice can't be more clear.
Speaker 2 (38:41):
And to be honest with you, and I'm gonna work
as hard as I can just figure out a way.
I even call Bobby Kennedy up and I said, Bobby,
you're you're you're going to put Trump back in the
White House. And he said, no, no, no, I'm going
to draw more votes from Trump than I will from Biden.
Speaker 4 (38:59):
That's not true. You don't know.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
There are polls that say the exact opposite. And you
have to understand that there are no Trump voters that
are going because Bobby Kennedy's on the ballot, that are
gonna leave Trump. Those people are locked in. They're not
going anywhere. The only way. The only votes he can
get are independent votes or votes that would have gone
(39:21):
to Biden.
Speaker 4 (39:23):
It doesn't. There's no argument about this.
Speaker 2 (39:25):
So I begged him and I said, please don't do this,
and you know, he's going ahead and he thinks he
can win, and I.
Speaker 3 (39:31):
Got news for what what the fuck is he talking?
Speaker 4 (39:33):
He can He can't win.
Speaker 3 (39:35):
He's not gonna win.
Speaker 4 (39:36):
No, he can't win.
Speaker 3 (39:37):
He can't win the President of the United States, Kennedy.
Speaker 1 (39:40):
Yes, yes, daddy, And that's in fucking the fact that
he thinks that is is so fucking ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
He's not gonna fucking win. He's not even gonna come.
He's not gonna be No, he's not gonna be president.
The only thing he can do is put Trump back
in the White House. And uh, you know, listen, we've
lived through it. We saw on a smaller scale, we
saw Ralph Nader put George w in the White House
over al Gore because of vote in Florida. We saw
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it in a bigger way the both elections for Clinton,
Ross Perot put Clinton in the white House. Clinton never
got fifty percent of the vote. He had forty three percent,
I think, or forty four for forty six, and then
he never got fifty percent. The first election, nineteen percent
went to Ross Paro. The second I think it was
like seven or eight percent. The point is those third
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party candidates swing elections one way or the other. And
that's fine when you have a choice between you know,
Clinton or it's going to be George h w. I mean,
you know, I'd rather have Clinton or that. But this
is not that kind of choice. This is do you
want democracy or autocracy? That's what we're dealing with here.
Speaker 1 (40:53):
To stay on Kennedy and if you called him, you
must have some sort of relationship with him. Do you
think there's some sort of is it ego or is
it some hidden nefarious reason for him running when you
could say what you want him. This is not an
uneducated shit. The guy's more educated about politics.
Speaker 4 (41:12):
He's very smart.
Speaker 3 (41:14):
And how think that he's going to be president of
the United States.
Speaker 2 (41:17):
He's not gonna be very cares. He's a very charismatic
guy and I've known him for a long time. He's uh,
you know, he's married to a woman who was Michelle
and my assistant, you know, worked at worked with us
at the house and then you know, before she got
to her job playing Larry David's wife on Uh curb
your enthusiasm. And so I've known him for all time.
He's a very smart guy, and he's very bright, and uh,
(41:40):
you know, I used to love when he was a
part of the NRDC and he was fighting for the
river keepers and you know, fighting for the environment. But
I you know, he's gone into a direction that I
don't particularly like, you know, the anti vaxer thing and
all and certain things. But I don't know. I can't
get it in his head and say what I think
(42:02):
he thinks. But I do believe he thinks he can win.
Speaker 1 (42:06):
I am not as politically astute as you are. I
only you know what inspired me to get into pay attention,
to not get into but to pay attention more to
politics was my dislike and being personally offended that Trump
spoke the way he speaks. That's what really, you know,
(42:26):
has helped me be as educated as I am now.
And I got plenty, plenty, plenty plenty more to learn.
Speaker 4 (42:33):
Yeah, you know, I didn't.
Speaker 2 (42:34):
I've always been politically involved, you know, I've been doing
that for as long as I can remember, But I
was never on social media. Until Trump got the nomination
in twenty sixteen, I went what the hell this guy.
He's not you know, he may be smart about how
to sell himself. What I've said over the years is
(42:55):
that he's been a failure and everything he's ever done,
the only thing he's successful at is convincing people he's
not a failure, and he's great at that. And so
I got on social media. My wife said, you know,
you got to talk, you got to speak out about this,
and so I did. And I've been on social media
since then because I can't believe that this country is
(43:16):
going down this path and that it's still going down
this path. And I made a documentary about, like I say,
about Christian nationalism, which now Trump is completely tapped into.
You know, he's you know, they think of him as
the second Coming and that he's you know, sent by God,
and Trump is owning all that stuff, and that's.
Speaker 4 (43:37):
Why they'll ever leave him.
Speaker 2 (43:38):
They believe that that he's ordained, you know, he's ordained
to be president.
Speaker 4 (43:43):
And it's it's scary, it's scary.
Speaker 1 (43:45):
Based on the documentary that you have coming out, what's
the title of A robb Well.
Speaker 2 (43:49):
We're now fiddling around with the title. We have two
titles which we're fiddling around with and the press release
is going to come out soon on it, so I'll
let you know.
Speaker 4 (43:59):
But but what's great again?
Speaker 3 (44:01):
Some other titles that never made the final cut.
Speaker 2 (44:03):
I'm sure, oh yeah, sure, But in this one, it's
not an attack on Christianity. It's the exact opposite. In it,
we have some very thoughtful conservative evangelicals talking about the
danger of white nationalism to Christianity itself and that it's
being used as a political tool to gain power and
(44:25):
it is gone very far away from the teachings of Jesus.
And that's what they talk about. And so you'll see
and that the basis of January sixth is people who
are of that movement who believe that God wants them
to do this. And you know, you see it, Marjorie
(44:46):
Taylor Green, And you've got the Speaker of the House now,
you know, Mike Johnson, who is one of those people
who believes that, you know, I governed by the Word
of God.
Speaker 4 (44:58):
Not by you know what people know. You know. So
it's it's scary.
Speaker 2 (45:02):
This whole where we are is a very scary place
in this country.
Speaker 1 (45:07):
You stop me in my tracks with that ship man,
do you identify or identify are you Republican, Democrat?
Speaker 3 (45:29):
Independent?
Speaker 1 (45:30):
What do you sort of you know, I guess the
word I identify? Well, like, do you even call yourself
either one.
Speaker 2 (45:36):
I've been a Democrat my whole life. People who don't
know me, uh, you know, on social media they call
me a lib tard, they call me drinking baby's blood.
Speaker 4 (45:46):
Then I'm flying off to you know.
Speaker 3 (45:50):
Have you whatever a dream of Chrome Steins Island?
Speaker 4 (45:53):
Yeah, fairly, I've been there a lot.
Speaker 1 (45:57):
I've never been to the mo of my life, but yeah,
but I've been many times.
Speaker 4 (46:02):
Yeah, yeah, me too.
Speaker 2 (46:03):
But I'm I'm much more moderate, you know. I would
say I'm left of center for sure. But I've been
in the political world for a long time, and I
know about building consensus. I've had legislation passed here in
California where I had to bring a lot of disparate
groups together, and I understand about compromise and having to
work with the you know, the other side.
Speaker 4 (46:25):
I've done all that stuff.
Speaker 2 (46:27):
So I'm not stupid enough to think, I mean, I'm
not perfect as the enemy they of the good.
Speaker 4 (46:32):
I don't believe that.
Speaker 2 (46:33):
I believe you want to get things done for people
you fight for as hard as you can for what
you believe in. But ultimately you have to make a compromise.
But you can't compromise with people who don't believe two
plus two is four. You have to have a basic
set of givens that you say, Okay, we all believe
two plus two is four. How do we get to that?
(46:54):
How do we get there? But if you say no, no,
I believe that, then then you can't have an honestess
ussion with people. And I think that's where we are now.
The Republican Party has been co opted by people, a
lot of them will believe the world is six thousand
years old and we're tent thout whatever they believe.
Speaker 1 (47:11):
You know, I know it's hard to remember, like where
your head was exactly at in nineteen seventy nineteen seventy
one of Vietnam post Vietnam, and you're playing one of
these college post college I don't know meadthead And I
say that with all due of respect.
Speaker 4 (47:27):
You know it went to college with all with love.
You're saying it with love.
Speaker 3 (47:30):
On fucking meat heead, I mean, are you kidding me?
Speaker 1 (47:34):
But did you ever imagine that the country would be
as divided as it is now.
Speaker 4 (47:41):
Well, that's the thing.
Speaker 2 (47:42):
That's what's crazy, I mean, and why I've been so
fixated on the Kennedy assassination is because when Kennedy died,
he was planning to get us out of Vietnam. He
had written this memo which took a thousand troops out
of Vietnam right away, all military out of Vietnam by
(48:02):
the end of nineteen sixty five. Then he gets assassinated.
Linda Johnson becomes president and we go full bore into
Vietnam and we were, you know, in a quagmire there
for a long time. That was the beginning of the divide.
We started to divide. Then half the country was against
the war in Vietnam, half the country was in favor
of it. And so we started that divide, and then
(48:25):
things started to you know, close.
Speaker 4 (48:27):
Up a little bit.
Speaker 2 (48:28):
You know. Johnson passed a lot of great legislation, the
Civil Rights Act, the Voting Rights Act, Medicare, Medicaid, all
those things got passed, and we were on a good
trajectory of becoming this pluralistic society where we had. And
it culminated with Barack Obama becoming president and we say,
oh good, finally the realization of America is finally coming
(48:53):
to fruition. And then we see the backlash. And the
backlash is all these people that were sub merged for
all this time where you couldn't be, you know, you
couldn't be overtly racist and all that stuff. So now
it's bubbled up and they've got a vessel in Trump
and we're seeing this the divide open up even bigger
(49:15):
than it was during Vietnam.
Speaker 3 (49:18):
That's a good answer, and I appreciate that.
Speaker 1 (49:20):
And you speak of overtly racism, overtly racist, you know,
for me as a Jewish person, I'm fifty three.
Speaker 3 (49:29):
I grew up in New York City, right Manhattan.
Speaker 1 (49:32):
I never ever, to be honest with you, I've never
dealt face to face with anti Semitism in my life
still to this day, fortunately right in my face.
Speaker 3 (49:42):
You know, these last three.
Speaker 1 (49:44):
Weeks of the open anti semitism towards Jewish people, towards Israel,
are you surprised?
Speaker 3 (49:57):
How has it affected you? How?
Speaker 1 (50:00):
Oh are you processing everything that is going on in
the world right now? Because just when you know, for me,
you know, I don't know if you see my my
rants on Trump, you know, I had to put that
shit on the back burner, you know, And I didn't.
Speaker 2 (50:12):
No, no, because it No, you're right. I mean I've
seen those rants and they're funny and they're great and
they're all that, But no, you can't because the world
is now being torn apart, and you know, as a
Jewish person myself, it's frightening. I mean, anti Semitism has
always been there as long as I can remember, but
(50:33):
like you, I grew up in the Bronx and and
in New York and then out here in Los Angeles,
and I never came face to face with it like
that because I'm in a world where there are a
lot of Jewish people and you know, and so on.
But the rampant anti Semitism now is very frightening, and
you're seeing it on college campuses and you know, speaking
(50:54):
and I yesterday I actually did a you know, a
video for this group that are Holocaust survivors, people who
have you know, and they're you know, not many of
them left. I have my aunt who lives in Atlanta.
She lost her entire family and she was in Aschwitz
and she's survived. And my wife's mother also was in
(51:16):
Ashwitz and lost her entire family there, and she was
the only survivor from her family. So I'm very conscious
of where this can go, you know, where this kind
of hatred can go, and when it's marshaled by someone
like it was in the thirties with Hitler, we see
(51:37):
where it can go. And I just tell people, don't
think it can't happen. Don't think it can happen. All
you need to get is somebody to be the vessel
of all of that. And so let's see. I mean,
it's scary, it's really scary.
Speaker 3 (51:52):
Yeah, it is scary, and it can go.
Speaker 1 (51:54):
And you know, I was saying the other day, if
the IDF hadn't showed up on October seventh, they weren't.
Speaker 3 (52:04):
Going to stop.
Speaker 1 (52:05):
It wasn't like they were like, we want to just
do this, that and the third they would have kept going.
And if they could that day, they would have kept going.
They would have done the whole thing in one day.
Speaker 2 (52:14):
Yes, yes, And here's what's tricky about all this. So
you have to defend yourself and you have to attack back.
I mean, you can't just let somebody do what you
just said. But at a certain point, wy it shifts
and then people said, saying, now we're seeing, yes, fourteen
hundred people who killed babies and destroyed and raping.
Speaker 4 (52:35):
And all that horror.
Speaker 2 (52:36):
But now we're doing that and you're seeing the images
of those little babies and and and people who are
innocent and they don't subscribe to amos. So is this
the solution? There has to be a way that we
don't do it, you know, full bore. I worry about this,
you know, I worry about the hostage. I worry about
where's are standing in the world and if we're not
(52:58):
going to be for peace for everyone. And there's two
state solutions a million miles away, but that ultimately has
to be where we wind up. And I don't know
if we ever can wind up there, because my feeling is,
you kill these harmas people and twenty more grow in
their place.
Speaker 4 (53:14):
You know, it's you know.
Speaker 2 (53:16):
You don't you can't kill hatred. You know you can't
kill hatred. You just have to find a way of
containing it somehow and not letting it bubble to the
surface like it has. And it's not just you know,
in the Middle East, it's you know, it's what when
we went into a rock that was like the stupidest
thing we could ever have done. I said, you know,
(53:38):
didn't anybody ever see Lawrence of Arabia. You know you're
not gonna walk in there and plunk a democracy down.
It's like, oh well, just make that a democracy doesn't
work that way. So you know, this is all scary times,
and it's it's scary to be a Jew and it's
scary to be a Muslim. You know, it's scary for
(53:58):
on both sides right now, and we got to find
a way to dial it down.
Speaker 4 (54:02):
I don't know that that's what we're doing right now.
I agree.
Speaker 3 (54:06):
I'm gonna let you go, Rob Reiner, I will.
Speaker 4 (54:09):
First before we go.
Speaker 2 (54:10):
Before we go, you just have to say what The
JFK podcast, it starts on November eighth.
Speaker 1 (54:17):
November eighth, did you say did we say that? I'm
saying it again. We said it once and I'll say
it at the top. The JFK Podcast, created directed by
the great director, actor, performer who killed JFK on iHeartRadio.
It premieres on November eighth. So many more things in
(54:40):
the chamber. You said it, and I'm gonna I'm gonna
listen Rob next year when this strike is done. This
is spinal tap. We're gonna have is it the reunion?
Speaker 4 (54:49):
Is it?
Speaker 2 (54:49):
This is spinal Tap Part two? Do you do you
have I'm not gonna tell you. I'm not gonna tell
you we have a top story, but we're getting it
done well, yes, as soon as the strike's sover.
Speaker 1 (55:01):
And I also suggest if people want some levity, you
can go watch any and all episodes of All in
the Family, The Princess Bride, when Harry Sally always makes
you smile, stand by me. This is spinal tap, misery,
a few good men, or anything that has anything to
do with the great Rob Reiner, his family, Car Reiner
(55:23):
and everything that you've touched. It has just brought joy
to the world. And I suggest people watching out because
we needed more than ever. What a pleasure, Like I said, Rob,
I've been a fan for such a long time as
an actor, as a director, as a producer, and as
a commentator on what's going on in the world today.
It was really a pleasure, and I can't wait to
listen to the podcast and the documentary with Albert Brooks.
Speaker 2 (55:46):
Thank you, Michael Rapperboard. I had a fun time being
on your show.
Speaker 4 (55:49):
Thank you, Rob.
Speaker 3 (55:50):
I'll talk to you.
Speaker 2 (55:50):
So my friend, okay, all right, y
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