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Speaker 1 (00:11):
Boom, I Have No Fear of the Iron Rapports Stereo
Podcast is here. Boom, Have No Fear of the Iron
rap Ports Stereo Podcast is here. He's back. This is
a great episode people.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
The official unofficial world news correspondent for years now, Eli
Lake from the Free Press, the great Eli Like Friend
of the Iron Rapports Stereo podcast is back.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
He has a new podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
The latest episode is all about censorship and Lenny Bruce.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
We're talking Lenny Bruce.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
We're talking comedy, we're talking cancel culture, we're talking guitar,
we're talking Kanye and we're talking some NBA. All that
and more on a high flying, fully disruptive Iron rap
Ports Stereo podcast.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Coming up right now with Friend of the Iron.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Rapports Stereo Podcast, the official unofficial news correspondent, Eli Lake,
Miles Joornek, the Bleach Brother's aka the Just Brothers. Start
to puffy with something real line. Start this puffing off
with some real but most importantly, start this I Am
Rapports Stereo podcast off with something real funk. I am
Reports Stereo Podcast.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Let's go, Baby, Boom, Have No Fear of the I
Am Rapports Stereo Podcast is here.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
With the unofficial official but still unofficial worldwide news correspondent
my Man who has got his own podcast which is
rocking and rolling. My Man Eli Lake is back with
the I Am Rapports stereo podcast.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Eli. How are you my friend?
Speaker 4 (01:52):
Great? Uh?
Speaker 5 (01:53):
We just released this big episode on Lenny Bruce for
Breaking History and it was a huge amount of work
but getting great, great feedback. Thanks so much for having
me on. And I want to just give you a
mozzle tub to those Knicks. I know how long suffering
you are.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
I'm gonna stop you. I'm gonna stop you. I appreciate
the mozzle top. I'm gonna stop you. As of the
recording of this Iron Wrapport Stereo podcast, the Knicks have
not buried the Boston Celtics.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
Fair enough, fair enough.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
I appreciate the mazzle, but I'm also gonna I'm gonna
stop you.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
I'm gonna stop you.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
That's a good point.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Gonna put any of that Philadelphia fucking shit on me?
Speaker 2 (02:29):
You ain't put any of that shoe. We're doing just fine.
You're gonna put in a Philadelphia seventy six or bad luck.
I know your intentions are good and sincere. You come
back with that mazzle you post a mazzle you don't.
Speaker 5 (02:40):
I've found for the series riveting as a basketball fan.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
It's been great. It's been great.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
First of all, how are you enjoying doing your podcast?
As I said, Eli's got a podcast, Breaking History, which
is kicking assets on the free press.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
It's released through the free Press, the Iconic and stan
free Press.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
And you just released an episode about Lenny Bruce and
sort of the culture war and censorship. But before we
get into that episode and some world news questions I
have for you, how are you enjoying the process of
making a podcast and being a podcast host.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
I love it.
Speaker 5 (03:23):
I attempt every everything comes out every two weeks because
we put a lot of work in it. What we
try to do is almost an audio documentary. For me,
it's a joy. It's it's an opportunity to kind of
do something beyond just I love writing, and there is
a lot of writing in the podcast, but it's an
opportunity to explore the space with clips, interviews. I mean,
(03:45):
we we try to really put something together that I
would say you can't hear kind of anything like it
anywhere else because it's it's it is a scripted show,
and so far it's been great. The response, it's been terrific.
I mean, I love it. I think the podcasting is
the is the future really for the media. I think
(04:07):
it's a much more intimate medium. It's terrific.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Yeah, it's it really is well to ask you specifically
about the episode titled Vulgarians at the Gate How Censors
Lost the Culture War. You have iconic comedian Colin Quinn
and there's a big chunk of it which talks about
Lenny Bruce. Yeah, why did you make this episode and
(04:30):
what importance did Lenny Bruce have to you before the episode?
Speaker 1 (04:34):
And what did you learn about the great Lenny Bruce?
Speaker 2 (04:36):
And explain who and how and why Lenny Bruce is
still important and what he meant at the time because
at the time, I mean you talked about this in
the episode, but at the time, and he started out
like this as a comedian, he was really sort of
a he started almost as like a vaudeville style joke, yeah, comedian,
and then he broke on through. He's sort of there's
(04:58):
other people, but he really broke on through to tell
like it is, and he started the whole ranting thing
and he stopped trying to be funny and he started
talking shit.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
He's like one of the first og.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
Stam absolutely shit talkers.
Speaker 5 (05:14):
Well, I would say that he's the most important comedian
of all time, because before Lenny Bruce, you did have comedians,
but they were like one liners. There's nothing wrong, by
the way with one one liners, but they would just
have very like short, staccato jokes. They would be like pratfalls.
They were there to entertain, and that was the main thing.
(05:36):
What Lenny Bruce decided to do was he was going
to use his platform as a stand up comic, I
would say, to interrogate everything that was taboo in our
society and he was going to try to expose it
and that if you look back that not to be
too intellectual, but that's really what Socrates did in ancient Greece.
(05:59):
That is what the philosophers would do, and he brought
that in an American context but made it entertaining of
the day. I mean, it's hard to listen to comedy
from sixty years ago. It's not going to crack you
up the way Chappelle would today or something like that,
but it's you can see the beginning of the art
form that modern stand up as we know it, which
is I'm gonna come up here, and I want to
(06:21):
be brutally honest about everything. I'm going to talk about
all the things I'm not supposed to talk about. I
might make you uncomfortable. But so in that sense, yeah,
it's funny. There's a joke, and we should never forget that.
He's trying to get you to laugh, but he's also
trying to kind of get you to question, well, why
is it that I, you know, don't say this word
and I won't think about this, or you know, why
(06:43):
is it that we talk about sex in terms of
euphemisms and things like that? For the when he was
doing it, which is the early nineteen sixties, that was
utterly radical and it ruined him. And so the other
reason he's so important is that he was the last
It was the last time anybody in America was actually
formally charged for effectively word crimes, meaning his speech was
(07:07):
the crime. There are lots of things easy. It is crazy, right,
But I mean the funny thing about it is that
we look back on it on Lenny Bruce today and
the things that he was arrested for seem unbelievably tame like.
He made a joke about Eleanor Roosevelt's tits, and that
showed up in the transcript of his trial in New
(07:28):
York City. He made it had a famous joke about
when jack Kennedy was shot, which was a tragedy. It's
a few months later, but he was trying to make
the point that Jackie Kennedy wasn't trying to save Jacksie
was trying to haul ass to save ass. That was
his phrase. Now that bit was considered so out of
bounds that it basically they, you know, the Manhattan DA's
(07:51):
office put the sick the cops on him, and they
ruined his life. Because club owners would face the heat,
they wouldn't book him anymore. He had a drug problem,
so he kind of fell, He sunk into his heroin
and morphine addiction, but he never let it go. He
would never kind of cry uncle. He kept fighting his
(08:13):
cases because he believed that this was protected by the
First Amendment. And eventually, you know, his life kind of
tragically ends in nineteen sixty six with a morphine overdose
in his home in the Hollywood Hills. He's bankrupted, but
what he was able to do is he changed the
culture because only a few years later you started to
(08:34):
see profanity in rock music. You started to see movies
like Midnight Cowboy and other kinds of things, and the
culture proved to be far more powerful than the law.
And then, if you want to know where some of
the greats, and you and I both love George Carlin,
George Carlin was a protege of Lenny Bruce. And if
you think about it, we're kind of like we have
(08:55):
a bunch of comics today that are proteges of Carlin.
So there's a sort of tree and it all comes
back to Lenny Bruce. I've always been obsessed with him
because he was somebody who was basically prosecuted for these
word crimes. I think he was one of the main
founding fathers of stand up comedy. And I thought that
now was the right moment to do it, because we're
kind of in this moment where we're seeing a vibe
(09:16):
shift where all of the efforts that weren't really using
the law. We should be clear that when they canceled
Shane Gillis on SNL or like you know, you've had
issues having to do with your pro Israel activism. Nobody's
prosecuting you. You're not going to get like the government
coming down on you. But there are factions which are
trying to suppress your speech or punish your speech. And
(09:40):
I feel like we had such a vibe shift with
the election of Trump in November that the culture has
kind of moved past it. And that's what I mean
by saying the awokening. The woke crowd won a lot
of battles for like ten years before twenty twenty four,
but I think they just lost the culture war. And
if you want to know what I mean by lou
the culture where it's not all bravy, I mean Kanye
(10:03):
West just released hal Hitler. I don't like that song.
I'm not a fan. I'm worried about it as a Jew,
but there are no limitations. If you have a Twitter account,
you can get that on x and no one can
stop you from like watching that video and listening to
that song. Same for all kinds of other things. Like
I mean, I say it, and I feel like now
(10:23):
we can all say the word retard, whereas before that
would have been something that you would have been canceled for.
So I see the real similarity in this sort of
the story of Lenny Bruce. After Lenny Bruce dies, the
country becomes far more vulgar and obscene. We sort of
accept it if you think about it. What's weird to
me if you were just kind of coming down as
like an alien anthropologist, right, if you came down to
(10:45):
American twenty twenty one, right, you would say, wait a second,
people can't say that not all police are trying to
kill black people.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
That was like a thing at the time.
Speaker 5 (10:56):
But Cardi b can come out with wet ass pussy,
and she, by the way, endorsed like Joe Biden in
the twenty twenty election.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
And you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
So the other thing is the taboos shift over time.
Speaker 5 (11:08):
What used to be like, you couldn't say fuck, you
couldn't say shit, you couldn't say all those words. Nobody
cares anymore about that. Now there are different taboos, and Lenny,
by the way, kind of like in all of them.
Speaker 4 (11:20):
Even something.
Speaker 5 (11:21):
Now here's the most interesting thing Mike rap on Lenny Bruce,
And I'll just end it on this. There's a famous
bit lent by the Dustin Hoffman recreates it in his
great movie Lenny I recommend everybody see Lenny. It's in
black and white. It's like when movies were great. That
was a great one where he goes into a club
and the first thing he says is he asks how
(11:41):
many N words are here tonight? Then he goes to
a bunch of other racial slurs and it's really uncomfortable.
The movie does a great job of kind of capturing
how uncomfortable that is, and then he kind of keeps going.
He says, listen, the reason I want to say it
is because when that word is un when we can't
say the word, it's an unspeakable word, that's what gives
it this power. So he's trying to suck the venom
(12:03):
out of it. Kind Of to me, that's a fascinating,
kind of a brilliant point. But the interesting thing is
that when he was going through his legal trials, you
can't find a transcript where they would prosecute him for
saying the N word. In nineteen sixty three nineteen sixty four,
it was all sex stuff or describing what they was,
(12:23):
all homosexual acts. That was what got him in trouble.
But nobody, the cops did not say you couldn't say
that now that to me is example of how the
taboo changes so much, you know what I'm saying. So
for me, I just think he's a fearless guy. I
don't think any I think every comic owes like a
debt to Lenny Bruce. So I wanted to make this,
(12:44):
you know, this sort of a labor of love because
I love comedy.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
No, yeah, and you're right, I mean Lenny Bruce and
what he did and the impact of the cancel culture,
the not cancel culture, and you know, the Shane Gillis
and all of it and situations and stuff with myself
and you know what you should say, and that it's
really an interesting time. And you and I both on
the playing field on Twitter X and you know, we
(13:10):
both know the rules and regulations about the Twitter and
the X and how that goes.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
And it's good that you did this.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
And uh again, I urge everybody to subscribe, rate review
Eli's podcast Breaking History. Uh the newest episode Vulgarians at
the Gate, and it's on put out.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
For the Free Press.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
A shout out to the Free Press, and you could
find it everywhere in anywhere you listen to.
Speaker 5 (13:36):
Pre Press Loves Mike rap By the way Prepress loves
Mike Rap just want to say you're you're, You're, You're
our kind of guy.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Good past. You know.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
I read an article speaking of the Free Press's speaking
of all things that are going on in the world,
worldwide news, and you are the worldwide news correspondent of
the imrap Per Stereo podcast. So I have to ask
you a few questions about that because you've always shared
such great important insight. I know so much more than
I did when I first had you on the podcast
(14:19):
than I do now. But you are an expert, and
you you know, and I told you this the other day.
You know, some of the things that you understand about
how the foreign policy works in regards to the United
States is so new to so many people, including myself,
and I think sometimes you might take it for granted,
thinking everybody knows what Eli Lake knows because you study this.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (14:41):
No, I've tried to got to, you know, kind of
break it down for a general audience.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
Yeah, And I think it's important because a lot of people,
including myself, care more than they ever have. So you know,
this week, Qatar quitar guitar has been in the news.
So I'm just gonna ask you, like, why does Katar
have so much power and how the fuck does Katar.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
Have so much money?
Speaker 5 (15:07):
Well, okay, the money is because of the oil and
because Qatar is also was smart enough to kind of
set up a banking I mean, like there's a lot
of banking and oil that goes together, and so they
just made a mint on that. Now, if you want to,
and I don't want, I mean, we could spend the
next three hours talking about this piece, but we have
(15:28):
a massive investigation that we just dropped today on Qatar
by my colleagues Jay Solomon and Franny Block.
Speaker 4 (15:35):
It's very good, by the way, Yeah, you gotta read.
Speaker 5 (15:38):
That's a reference point if you really want to, like
get into the weeds, because that is a piece about
how this very wealthy nation and a very tiny nation
has used its like vast wealth to purchase influence all
over America. Not just it's a traditional way with like
(15:58):
you know, paying lawyers and life, but universities, they've got
media deals. It's unbelievable how much money they have poured
into influence in the last ten fifteen years. And that
is a huge thing right now. I mean you see it,
like I live in Washington, DC when a couple of
years ago when the Capitals won the Stanley Cup. I
(16:18):
mean you saw like brought to you by Qatar all
over like the subway and stuff. So there is a
major campaign and this is the piece to understanding all
of the people. People that you know are even real
good on Israel, like Lindsay Graham has certainly been boosted
by the Qataris. So I really got to say, you
(16:39):
got to read it. It's a terrific piece of journalism.
But the reason I think you're talking about it it's
been in the news this week is because the Kataris
just gave a gift of an air force one basically
to President Trump. And the original terms of the deal
was that he gets to keep the plane for his
presidential library.
Speaker 4 (16:59):
That insane.
Speaker 5 (17:00):
That's like a personal gift from a you know, frenemie nation.
And you know, the US relationship with the qatar is complicated.
We have a military base there. The Qataris also provide
their diplomatic offices, you could say, to speak to dirtbag
terrorist groups like Hamas. They were important in the diplomacy
(17:21):
with the getting out of Afghanistan, working with the Taliban,
and they have a relationship with the Iranians and the US.
He uses them as a kind of go between at times.
On the other hand, they're the one like all the
other Gulf states. I'm not a fan of how Saudi
organizes its society as an as an American who appreciates
(17:42):
small al liberal values, but they're on the right side
when it comes to radical Islamic terrorism. Qatar is no,
Qatar is not. That's the one Gulf state that isn't
Saudi Emirates. You know, these other countries that are part
of the Golf Cooperation Council, which is like I don't know,
(18:03):
something like eighty percent or seventy percent of the world's
oil is represented in this, you know, small group of
nations in the Persian Gulf. But what you have is
this one country, Qatar, that is still working with and
funding the radical Islamic terror groups, whether it's Hamas, they
work closely with the Taliban. They made a strategic decision
(18:23):
basically to try to play both sides, to have the
relationship in the United States but also the relationship with
radical Islam, and that has been the root of the problem.
If you want to know where the money for Hamas
and where the senior leadership. A lot of their senior
leadership lives. They live in Guitar. Some of them live
in Turkey. That's also bad. But it's mainly Qatar that
provides the money and the funding. You know, that was
(18:46):
almost certainly used into October seventh. I mean, that's that's
the reality.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
Is there no way, you know, for me this week
with the.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
Miracle incredible, crazy release of hostage eat On Alexander.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
From New Jerseys born in tell Avis, but you grew
up in New.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
Jersey and the idea of the plane being given to Trump,
whether or not that actually happens, and then it was
suggested that eat An Alexander go to Qatar and meet
Trump and the leaders of Qatar, and it really Eli,
it really sent me into a dark, sad spiral for
(19:34):
a few hours, Like I was just like, what the fuck?
Speaker 1 (19:38):
And you know, I came out of the spiral and
this is just a couple of days ago.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
But I feel like, for all of our sakes, and
I know you can't answer this for sure, but is
it just like Qatar is not going to go anywhere
and we just have to sort of deal with them
the best we can and get the best and the
most out of it as Americans and as Zionus. And
(20:01):
it's like they're not going to just disappear. We're not
going to viscerate them from the face of the earth.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
So we just have to like we got a fucking
party with them.
Speaker 5 (20:10):
Like no, no, no. There's a couple of things. One is,
first of all, we should say that trump policies in
this regard are at at odds with them itself. It's
kind of a paradox. On the one hand, you have
a Department of Education at this point and a Justice
Department that is for the first time really looking at
(20:32):
all the foreign money that's poured into the universities and
guitar throws. I think twenty billion over the last twenty
five years. It's an incredible amount of money that they
have poured into some of our best universities. Getting a
handle on that, what is all that money buying them
is an important issue. And on the one hand, Trump's
(20:52):
has putty what so far looks like much better policies
than any of his predecessors. On the other hand, you
have Trump accepting at first the gift of the Air
Force one. I actually think he's gonna end up walking
away from that because there was too much outrage over it.
And you also have uh, you know, Trump visiting Doha,
he's meeting with I mean, I think it's a great
(21:12):
thing that Bashar Assad is no longer the leader of Syria.
But the guy who replaced him was a former hardcore
jahatist who killed Americans when he was in you know,
fighting us in Iraq.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
There is no such thing as halfway. Gi Hottis. There's
no such thing as halfway.
Speaker 4 (21:28):
I know, I know, I know.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
Just to quote the great mob Deep a prodigy Havoc,
there's no such thing as halfway crooks, and there's no
such thing as halfway.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
Gi Hottis.
Speaker 4 (21:37):
Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
And other presidents, you're going we'll talk about Syria, but
other presidents have put sanctions on Syria.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
They've removed sanctions on Syria.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
As of the recording of this Iron Wrap Wort Stereo podcast,
America has removed sanctions on Syria. Like this guy's a
fucking psychopath, lunatic Jihattis. I don't care if you shave
him down and put him in a fucking who you know, heasy,
he is what he is.
Speaker 5 (22:02):
Period, Well, there are I would say it was very
bad under Assad. I don't want to make this clear.
What was before was terrible. Assad was a direct ally
of Hesblah. Assad allowed for the transhipment of the missiles
that are that rained down on Israel.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
Know.
Speaker 5 (22:22):
Assad was a terrible and also a brutal tyrant who
killed hundreds thousands of his own people. The new leadership
of Syria has a time said things that you'd like
to hear in terms of we think minorities and Christians
should be able to live here. But they've nonetheless been
horrific kind of ethnic purges as well, and it's unclear
(22:42):
whether he has ordered those or hasn't been powerful enough
to stop them. But there is a real problem. The
thing is, I think what Trump is trying to do
here is he's saying, all right, we're going to wipe
the slate clean. But it's very easy for the United
States to slap sanctions back on. And the one thing
that Trump has also made clear is he doesn't want
(23:02):
any more wars in the Middle East. It's interesting we
haven't seen yet him announced that there are US forces
in Syria still, and we haven't seen him announced that
the US is pulling out of Syria because it's a
small number of very highly trained special operators, so it's
a little bit more complicated. But I agree with you
there is no such thing as a halfway gee hottist.
(23:25):
And if his goal is to try to turn Syria
into like Taliban Afghanistan or something like that, then that's
going to be a huge problem. And it's one of
the reasons why, I mean, I find this amazing and fascinating.
But one of the subplots of all this is that
you're seeing hundreds and now thousands of Druze citizens of
Syria saying they want to be under Israel. That's amazing.
(23:49):
Drus are Arabs, by the way, that's not like a
special I mean, it's so so what you're seeing is
that like there's a huge reshuffling of stuff right now, and.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
And there was just a terrible assault and violence and
you know, killings of the Jews in Syria.
Speaker 5 (24:06):
Yeah, and so the Israel they wanted Israel to be
their protector, right and by the way, this is why,
thank god, you know, under pressure from Clinton and later Obama,
Israel didn't give up the goal on heights. Could you
imagine if they didn't have that very important strategic position
right now. The other thing to say is that for
(24:26):
all the foots hee that that Trump is playing with
Katar and that's you know, and there's these negotiations with Iran,
we don't know how that's going to go. All that's
on the Werrying side. He's been pretty good on Israel.
He has not been like Biden. He hasn't tried to
micromanage their decisions on war and so forth. You're not
seeing any kind of pressure in that regard. So I
think there's a lot of unresolved policies at this point.
(24:48):
I'm most concerned that he's going to go for a
weak deal with Iran, and that will allow Iran to
keep its ability to make nuclear fuel. So what it
will be, basically is that he will lift sanctions in
exchange for a promise from the Iranians not to enrich
uranium to the point that they could be used in
a nuclear weapon. And that's just not going to be
(25:10):
good enough, and especially since right now they're defenseless against
an air strike because of Israel's work last year. So
it would be nice to try to take out some
of the industrial scale centrifuges that the Iranians have assembled,
and I agree that is unclear what's going to happen
right now with Trump, although what Trump's also saying is
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it's not that we're not going to negotiate forever. There's
a time limit here. If we can't get to a
good deal, then we're gonna have to go the other way. So,
I mean, we'll see. This might be his way of
trying to convince the Tucker Carlson wing of the party
that he did everything he could to try to do
it without force, but now he has to use force
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because he won't allow them to get a nuclear weapon.
If he does that, he'll that'll be great. If he
ends up kicking the can down the road for another
bad Obama style deal, then uh, it's gonna be very
bad for Israel. It's gonna be very bad I think
for the region of the world.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
I hope he loses his patience because their week you
said it. Israel decimated their their defense system in October
of twenty twenty four and the world hasn't officially thanked
Israel for doing that.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
And there was some incredible IAF people, and some of
them were women, and they went in there in one.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
Beautiful night, unbelievable, knock the shit out of them, and uh,
it's that wasn't even by the way, that wasn't even
their best game.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
No, they went in there that wasn't even their best game.
Speaker 5 (26:36):
That wasn't that wasn't their like fifty five of the
Garden that was like that was like their third best game.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
That wasn't even a game.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
I think they were in the warm up line. I
think it was like a lot of dunks in the war,
blah blah, like yeah, we can't do this, we can
we we could start, you know, shooting threes and all that,
but right now we're just warming up and we're showing
you like boom, we can fucking dunk on your head,
like we can do like that old school dominiqueuil.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
Can that Doctor j shit? You know that Sean Kemp
shit podcast. You said Tucker Carlson.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
And the right right wing and the Tucker Calson part
of the Republican Party. Is I know you can't say
this for sure, it's all your opinion. Does Tucker Calson
have a say in the party? Is he like a
Rabbel riser pot stirring of fuck? Because you know, I've
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come to terms with some of these people, and I
get some of these people. I think Tucker Carlson, you know,
because I know we're gonna get into Countie. I think
Tucker Carlson is a bad guy. I think Tucker Carlson
has anti Semitic thoughts through his head. And I think
his whole America First thing is a put on. I
think he's you know, this is his laying, this is
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his audience. But the amount of discussion that he does
about Jews in Israel, and not just Israel, it's Jews
in Israel. The amount of people that he has on
his show about Jews in Israel, and it's all negative views,
negative points of view, negative vibes, And anybody.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
Would go on Tucker Carlson.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
There's so many great people that are pro Zionists, pro
Israel that he could have on. He doesn't have any
of them on when he mentions Israel. It's always with
a negative vibe and a negative guest, what is his
fucking deal, Tucker Carlson. He could have on Barry Weiss,
he could have on Dance in You, or he could
have on you.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
He could have on one a Viva.
Speaker 5 (28:40):
Klimpas he's on g He's on jihat against Barry Weiss.
He's like he's definitely going after her.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
Well, Tucker Carlson, man, I can't stand this motherfucker.
Speaker 5 (28:50):
Well, okay, so a couple of things. I Uh, I've
known Tucker for a long time. I mean in Washington.
I've been on his old Fox show, And I would
say that, like, there was a moment in twenty when
the whole media was like insane and telling us there
were mostly peaceful riots, when there were real riots and
shit like that, and he was the one place you
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could go and you could get like real information. So
I credit him for that. He's, by the way, he
is a really smart guy. I think you're right he
has taken a turn. But here's the other thing I
would say about Tucker Carlson. I wonder sometimes how much
of this is a play to take away the audience
of the very successful Ben Shapiro media founded operation, The
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Daily Wire. The Daily Wire is a right wing conservative
news organization that did better than all of the other
you know, conservative news outlets. It took off, and this
is a way of kind of trying to get people
to turn on his audience by making Israel the big issue,
(29:52):
and I don't think it really should be the big issue,
but that's I think that's one element of maybe what's
going on is that Tucker's started his own media company
and he is trying to very cynically create another space
on the right. The other thing is this he is
found that by kind of signaling, if you will, in
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some ways like that you know, there's this you know,
powerful Jewish lobby, Israel lobby that is silencing us, and
that if you if you say the wrong thing, you know,
the bad things are going to happen to you. Well,
he's playing on like there's a lot of people out
there that want to hear that. So there's a there's
an audience of Americans and we're a big country, as
(30:36):
you know, and you don't need that many and you know,
so he's gone there. I also have a problem by
the way that he went to Vladimir Putin's Russia and
had like this fawning interview with the President of Russia
where he let him get away with all kinds of
stuff that he wouldn't have done if he had on
like you know, somebody who we disagreed with. So I again,
I have a lot of criticisms of him, but I
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think it's a problem and in terms of his power
with in the Republican Party, I can tell you that
nobody wants to cross him. I think if Tucker goes
after you, it's a huge problem, you know, kind of
on the right, and you will find yourself vulnerable in
a primary if you're an elected official. And so I
think that's another part of it as well, where there's
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a kind of sense where he does have a lot
of power. And he was brought in early on in
the transition for in mar A Lago as they were
coming up with who was going to staff the second
Trump administration. Tucker was, you know, one of those voices
that could veto somebody didn't think would be worth it.
Had a lot of influence in terms of who would
(31:40):
get the top jobs in the US government. So he's
a powerful figure right now on the right. And I
think he's made it pretty clear that he doesn't I mean,
like his what he says about Iran doesn't make any
sense to me, which is like he always puts it
on like we don't want to start a war with Iran.
This is a country that blew up our soldiers in
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Iraq and Afghanistan with these roadside bombs. This is a
country that is menacing its neighbors. It supports terrorism that
has kidnapped Americans, that has killed Americans. Iran's been at
war with us, you know what I'm saying. So he's
flipping that in a way that makes it seem like
people are seeking out war with Iran without acknowledging all
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the things that Iran is doing that you know are
obviously they are continuing to be at war with us.
So for me, it's like I have a real problem
with how he presents it. But unfortunately he's a big
platform right now and just got to deal with it.
This is the world we live in unfortunately.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
Yeah, I agree, I agree. Yeah, I don't have.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
The the kouth or the coolness. I'm too emotional to
play games with people like him. I see through the
bullshit and I see what they're doing, and I get
you know, you're right about the media company and the
Ben Shapiro of it all, and I just don't have
the tolerant for it. It's too like, you know, mind gaming,
(33:03):
and I'm not down with that shit. I'm down with
you know, I'm not down with that shit.
Speaker 5 (33:07):
But he's I just point something out like, because you
are you've lived this, okay, When people showed up at
your clubs where you were performing and putting pressure on
the venues, that was an effort to try to silence
you to cancel you didn't work. Obviously, it's not going
to cancel Mike Wrap. But the point is is that
he's making it seem like the only side that's trying
(33:28):
to cancel anyone is the pro Israel side. I don't
know about you. My view is I don't want to cancel.
Like I understand that there's anti Semites out there. I
want to use my free speech to counter their their
anti Semitic speech. That's how I look at it. Maybe
there are people who think that there should be people
who are canceled for saying certain things, but it is
(33:48):
a kind of like weird vice that the Jewish Americans
right now are in because we're really not calling on
people to be canceled. We're not calling on people that
he's saying, you can't say that they're going to be consequences.
It's the other side that's doing it. But then they're
playing the victim very much like the Israel Palestine conflict.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
You know what I'm saying, say, it's the same thing.
Speaker 5 (34:09):
Like, like I'm saying, what is it when they're like
protesting you that what are they doing? They're trying to
get the club owner to cancel your gig. That's what
they're doing. They're trying to stop you from earning your
money and you're applying your trade and saying what you
want to say, and that they do that shit all
the time. And it's like then they go around and
(34:30):
they say, oh, you're trying to censor me.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
That's right, shit, Yeah, I I totally agree. All right,
you said you had some questions.
Speaker 5 (34:36):
For me what I wanted to get your take on, Like,
you know, I I wouldn't call myself necessarily. I don't
defend Kanye's ridiculous and uh just asinine opinions and what
he says and his flirtations with anti Semitism, which is
more than a flirtation. Now it's who he is, I guess,
but this seems to have crossed the line, this latest.
(34:59):
I just wanted to what the fuck?
Speaker 4 (35:01):
Man?
Speaker 5 (35:02):
And by the way, isn't it weird that black people
are in the video? Do you know about Hitler. Do
you know what the Nazis said about like the black race?
I mean, what the fuck is wrong with you? I'm
just trying to see. I didn't see the video. I
think it's well. People will do anything for money. Fame
is the ultimate drug. And if Kanye says you're gonna
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be in a Kanye video.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
People will will you know, They'll put on the baby
oil and they'll throw up Hitler signs and they'll do
you know, they'll do whatever.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
I mean.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
I think that he is rubber room status. I think
he should be in a mental institution. I think that
I'm glad that the Kardashians won't let him see his kids.
Anybody who says he loves Hitler and loves Nazis and
he's a Nazi, why would you want any kids, let
alone the mother of your kids. Why would you want
this person around them. I think Donda's alive. I think
(35:53):
his mother is actually still alive.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
I think I think that's my theory.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
I think that Donda is alive with Tupac and Cuba,
and she could no longer.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
Stand uh, she could understand.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
The reality that her son is Kanye West so and
I think she she lives in Cuba in shame with Tupac.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
So would you would you.
Speaker 5 (36:17):
Con see that over his career I'm not talking about
like over his career. The man has put out some bangers,
no doubt, no doubt. I mean, okay, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
I mean, of course he's put out more than just
just some bangers. I mean he's one of the most
prolific artists of his generation. That being said, you know,
I could move on from listening to him ever again.
I'd never put him in my top five, never at
his high point ever. But you know, I'm not gonna
(36:47):
say he wasn't. You know, he didn't make a lot
of incredible music I put.
Speaker 5 (36:51):
I put him on the top five producers. I wouldn't
call him a top five lyricist.
Speaker 1 (36:55):
Yes, I would have to look.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
I don't know if i'd put him in my top five,
but I wouldn't argue with him being in a top
He's made smackers, he's made club bangers, he's made hardcore
hip hop, you know, boom back beats.
Speaker 1 (37:07):
He's you know, he.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
Was extremely prolific and extremely important artist. Unfortunately those days
are done and he's he's like a boxer who's been
punched and beaten up too many times, and he's continued
to show up in the ring. He's like a fifty
one year old heavyweight fighter who keeps coming to the
ring flabby, out of shape and needs to just you know,
shut it down. That's where he's at now, and I
(37:30):
think he should be in an institution, you know, calling
for Chief to to you know, hold his arms up
and throw the ball in his hand like Jack Nicholson and.
Speaker 4 (37:38):
Love the one flow of the Coogers.
Speaker 5 (37:39):
Okay, since we got a little bit more time left,
I just want to get like, how excited are you
about this next team?
Speaker 1 (37:46):
Man? No, ma, I'm very excited about this next team.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
I'm hoping and praying by the time this Iron Rapport
Stereo podcast comes out that we are in the Eastern
Conference Finals Old School versus the Indiana Pacers.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
There's no love loss there either.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
I mean, you know, when I think of the Indiana Pacers,
it's not so much the franchise or the city the
way Boston affects me Beyond the Celtics the Celtics, there
is no Celtics Nicks rivalry. There never was even in
the sixties and seventies. I mean, We had some good
matchups as.
Speaker 5 (38:21):
A seventies the rivalry because they won the year after
you got you know a little bit.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
But it wasn't like back and forth. It was more
of the Lakers Celtics.
Speaker 2 (38:29):
That being said, New York, Boston, Boston, New York Patriots, Giants,
Red Sox, Yankees, Mets, Bruins, Rangers, and just Boston in general.
Speaker 1 (38:40):
They have an inferiority complex towards all things in New York.
Speaker 2 (38:44):
And that's fine. This is the world's greatest city. Boston's
a fine city with great people. However, you're never gonna
be New York. And you could have Banna after Banna
after no Wa, Gopaciaparra and your Matt Damons and your
Beneffleckx and all the Greek comedians you talk about comedians
that have come out of a Boston. The list goes
on and on and on. That being said, you'll never
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be New York. And that's why this year, going at
the Celtics, it's like a double triple win. It's not
just a win or a series. It's like it means
more to put our thumb on them and remind them
that were the greatest city in the world.
Speaker 4 (39:21):
I agree.
Speaker 5 (39:22):
I have to also say, you look at the roster
on paper and you're like, how's that team gonna get
all these points? And then Jalen Brunson finds a way
with that old man style, but he has mastered it.
And what It's like a breath of fresh air in
the sense of, like, I just he's bringing back this thing. Remember,
(39:43):
like it was like when I just thought everybody was
trying to beat Steph Cerry, you know what I mean,
Like everyone's gonna just be that guy dropping bombs at
behind the three, off the dribble, doing all that thing,
and he's like the mid range Master. He's so gritty,
and it seems like he's just one of those incredible athletes.
When the pressure is at its highest, he performs at
(40:05):
his highest level. My hat is off to him as
much as I you know, I feel as a Sixers fan,
I fucking hate the Knicks and the Celtics, but this
series really just brought me in. I mean, they showed
so much heart and they were winning that game before Tatum.
They were winning that game before Tatum got.
Speaker 2 (40:23):
Oh no, that game was the game was done. The
game was done before the great Jason Tatum went down
and by the.
Speaker 4 (40:28):
Way, he was having an all world performance.
Speaker 2 (40:30):
I mean, he's sick, and I hope he's you know,
better soon, because you never want to win like that.
You never want to close out a series like that ever, ever, ever.
Speaker 5 (40:41):
But they were gonna win that game even if he
wasn't down. I really believe that was. They were like
seven or eight. And when he went, when he got
the Achilles.
Speaker 2 (40:47):
Game four was was was done. So that that game
was done. But I wish him well and I you know,
and I wish the Celtics well in the future. It's
just not this year. This year's done. As of the
recording this Iron Rapport Stereo Pockets, I hope I'm that,
you know, I have to eat those words anyway, Eli,
I want everybody to make sure they follow you on
Twitter where you're.
Speaker 1 (41:07):
You're one of my first people. Every day I go
to you on Twitter.
Speaker 2 (41:10):
And follow Eli Lake at Eli Lake, and you subscribe,
rate review to his podcast Breaking History, which is put
out by the Free Press, and make sure you check
out this new episode, Bulgarians at the Gate, which is
House Censors Lost, the Culture War and all.
Speaker 1 (41:25):
Things Lenny Bruce. This is an incredible episode.
Speaker 2 (41:28):
We talked Qatar, Saudi terrorist, Kanye and Lenny Bruce.
Speaker 1 (41:34):
Who's doing that?
Speaker 2 (41:35):
Nobody else is doing that and it made a great
mob deep reference. This is a fantastic episode once again.
Speaker 4 (41:42):
Museum quality podcast.
Speaker 1 (41:45):
Boom Eli. I appreciate you coming and the insight and
the friendship.
Speaker 5 (41:49):
Man I could do you absolutely, absolutely too.
Boom, I Have No Fear of the Iron Rapports Stereo
Podcast is here. Boom, Have No Fear of the Iron
rap Ports Stereo Podcast is here. He's back. This is
a great episode people.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
The official unofficial world news correspondent for years now, Eli
Lake from the Free Press, the great Eli Like Friend
of the Iron Rapports Stereo podcast is back.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
He has a new podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
The latest episode is all about censorship and Lenny Bruce.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
We're talking Lenny Bruce.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
We're talking comedy, we're talking cancel culture, we're talking guitar,
we're talking Kanye and we're talking some NBA. All that
and more on a high flying, fully disruptive Iron rap
Ports Stereo podcast.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Coming up right now with Friend of the Iron.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Rapports Stereo Podcast, the official unofficial news correspondent, Eli Lake,
Miles Joornek, the Bleach Brother's aka the Just Brothers. Start
to puffy with something real line. Start this puffing off
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Speaker 3 (01:08):
Let's go, Baby, Boom, Have No Fear of the I
Am Rapports Stereo Podcast is here.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
With the unofficial official but still unofficial worldwide news correspondent
my Man who has got his own podcast which is
rocking and rolling. My Man Eli Lake is back with
the I Am Rapports stereo podcast.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Eli. How are you my friend?
Speaker 4 (01:52):
Great? Uh?
Speaker 5 (01:53):
We just released this big episode on Lenny Bruce for
Breaking History and it was a huge amount of work
but getting great, great feedback. Thanks so much for having
me on. And I want to just give you a
mozzle tub to those Knicks. I know how long suffering
you are.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
I'm gonna stop you. I'm gonna stop you. I appreciate
the mozzle top. I'm gonna stop you. As of the
recording of this Iron Wrapport Stereo podcast, the Knicks have
not buried the Boston Celtics.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
Fair enough, fair enough.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
I appreciate the mazzle, but I'm also gonna I'm gonna
stop you.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
I'm gonna stop you.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
That's a good point.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Gonna put any of that Philadelphia fucking shit on me?
Speaker 2 (02:29):
You ain't put any of that shoe. We're doing just fine.
You're gonna put in a Philadelphia seventy six or bad luck.
I know your intentions are good and sincere. You come
back with that mazzle you post a mazzle you don't.
Speaker 5 (02:40):
I've found for the series riveting as a basketball fan.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
It's been great. It's been great.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
First of all, how are you enjoying doing your podcast?
As I said, Eli's got a podcast, Breaking History, which
is kicking assets on the free press.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
It's released through the free Press, the Iconic and stan
free Press.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
And you just released an episode about Lenny Bruce and
sort of the culture war and censorship. But before we
get into that episode and some world news questions I
have for you, how are you enjoying the process of
making a podcast and being a podcast host.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
I love it.
Speaker 5 (03:23):
I attempt every everything comes out every two weeks because
we put a lot of work in it. What we
try to do is almost an audio documentary. For me,
it's a joy. It's it's an opportunity to kind of
do something beyond just I love writing, and there is
a lot of writing in the podcast, but it's an
opportunity to explore the space with clips, interviews. I mean,
(03:45):
we we try to really put something together that I
would say you can't hear kind of anything like it
anywhere else because it's it's it is a scripted show,
and so far it's been great. The response, it's been terrific.
I mean, I love it. I think the podcasting is
the is the future really for the media. I think
(04:07):
it's a much more intimate medium. It's terrific.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Yeah, it's it really is well to ask you specifically
about the episode titled Vulgarians at the Gate How Censors
Lost the Culture War. You have iconic comedian Colin Quinn
and there's a big chunk of it which talks about
Lenny Bruce. Yeah, why did you make this episode and
(04:30):
what importance did Lenny Bruce have to you before the episode?
Speaker 1 (04:34):
And what did you learn about the great Lenny Bruce?
Speaker 2 (04:36):
And explain who and how and why Lenny Bruce is
still important and what he meant at the time because
at the time, I mean you talked about this in
the episode, but at the time, and he started out
like this as a comedian, he was really sort of
a he started almost as like a vaudeville style joke, yeah, comedian,
and then he broke on through. He's sort of there's
(04:58):
other people, but he really broke on through to tell
like it is, and he started the whole ranting thing
and he stopped trying to be funny and he started
talking shit.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
He's like one of the first og.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
Stam absolutely shit talkers.
Speaker 5 (05:14):
Well, I would say that he's the most important comedian
of all time, because before Lenny Bruce, you did have comedians,
but they were like one liners. There's nothing wrong, by
the way with one one liners, but they would just
have very like short, staccato jokes. They would be like pratfalls.
They were there to entertain, and that was the main thing.
(05:36):
What Lenny Bruce decided to do was he was going
to use his platform as a stand up comic, I
would say, to interrogate everything that was taboo in our
society and he was going to try to expose it
and that if you look back that not to be
too intellectual, but that's really what Socrates did in ancient Greece.
(05:59):
That is what the philosophers would do, and he brought
that in an American context but made it entertaining of
the day. I mean, it's hard to listen to comedy
from sixty years ago. It's not going to crack you
up the way Chappelle would today or something like that,
but it's you can see the beginning of the art
form that modern stand up as we know it, which
is I'm gonna come up here, and I want to
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be brutally honest about everything. I'm going to talk about
all the things I'm not supposed to talk about. I
might make you uncomfortable. But so in that sense, yeah,
it's funny. There's a joke, and we should never forget that.
He's trying to get you to laugh, but he's also
trying to kind of get you to question, well, why
is it that I, you know, don't say this word
and I won't think about this, or you know, why
(06:43):
is it that we talk about sex in terms of
euphemisms and things like that? For the when he was
doing it, which is the early nineteen sixties, that was
utterly radical and it ruined him. And so the other
reason he's so important is that he was the last
It was the last time anybody in America was actually
formally charged for effectively word crimes, meaning his speech was
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the crime. There are lots of things easy. It is crazy, right,
But I mean the funny thing about it is that
we look back on it on Lenny Bruce today and
the things that he was arrested for seem unbelievably tame like.
He made a joke about Eleanor Roosevelt's tits, and that
showed up in the transcript of his trial in New
(07:28):
York City. He made it had a famous joke about
when jack Kennedy was shot, which was a tragedy. It's
a few months later, but he was trying to make
the point that Jackie Kennedy wasn't trying to save Jacksie
was trying to haul ass to save ass. That was
his phrase. Now that bit was considered so out of
bounds that it basically they, you know, the Manhattan DA's
(07:51):
office put the sick the cops on him, and they
ruined his life. Because club owners would face the heat,
they wouldn't book him anymore. He had a drug problem,
so he kind of fell, He sunk into his heroin
and morphine addiction, but he never let it go. He
would never kind of cry uncle. He kept fighting his
(08:13):
cases because he believed that this was protected by the
First Amendment. And eventually, you know, his life kind of
tragically ends in nineteen sixty six with a morphine overdose
in his home in the Hollywood Hills. He's bankrupted, but
what he was able to do is he changed the
culture because only a few years later you started to
(08:34):
see profanity in rock music. You started to see movies
like Midnight Cowboy and other kinds of things, and the
culture proved to be far more powerful than the law.
And then, if you want to know where some of
the greats, and you and I both love George Carlin,
George Carlin was a protege of Lenny Bruce. And if
you think about it, we're kind of like we have
(08:55):
a bunch of comics today that are proteges of Carlin.
So there's a sort of tree and it all comes
back to Lenny Bruce. I've always been obsessed with him
because he was somebody who was basically prosecuted for these
word crimes. I think he was one of the main
founding fathers of stand up comedy. And I thought that
now was the right moment to do it, because we're
kind of in this moment where we're seeing a vibe
(09:16):
shift where all of the efforts that weren't really using
the law. We should be clear that when they canceled
Shane Gillis on SNL or like you know, you've had
issues having to do with your pro Israel activism. Nobody's
prosecuting you. You're not going to get like the government
coming down on you. But there are factions which are
trying to suppress your speech or punish your speech. And
(09:40):
I feel like we had such a vibe shift with
the election of Trump in November that the culture has
kind of moved past it. And that's what I mean
by saying the awokening. The woke crowd won a lot
of battles for like ten years before twenty twenty four,
but I think they just lost the culture war. And
if you want to know what I mean by lou
the culture where it's not all bravy, I mean Kanye
(10:03):
West just released hal Hitler. I don't like that song.
I'm not a fan. I'm worried about it as a Jew,
but there are no limitations. If you have a Twitter account,
you can get that on x and no one can
stop you from like watching that video and listening to
that song. Same for all kinds of other things. Like
I mean, I say it, and I feel like now
(10:23):
we can all say the word retard, whereas before that
would have been something that you would have been canceled for.
So I see the real similarity in this sort of
the story of Lenny Bruce. After Lenny Bruce dies, the
country becomes far more vulgar and obscene. We sort of
accept it if you think about it. What's weird to
me if you were just kind of coming down as
like an alien anthropologist, right, if you came down to
(10:45):
American twenty twenty one, right, you would say, wait a second,
people can't say that not all police are trying to
kill black people.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
That was like a thing at the time.
Speaker 5 (10:56):
But Cardi b can come out with wet ass pussy,
and she, by the way, endorsed like Joe Biden in
the twenty twenty election.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
And you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
So the other thing is the taboos shift over time.
Speaker 5 (11:08):
What used to be like, you couldn't say fuck, you
couldn't say shit, you couldn't say all those words. Nobody
cares anymore about that. Now there are different taboos, and Lenny,
by the way, kind of like in all of them.
Speaker 4 (11:20):
Even something.
Speaker 5 (11:21):
Now here's the most interesting thing Mike rap on Lenny Bruce,
And I'll just end it on this. There's a famous
bit lent by the Dustin Hoffman recreates it in his
great movie Lenny I recommend everybody see Lenny. It's in
black and white. It's like when movies were great. That
was a great one where he goes into a club
and the first thing he says is he asks how
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many N words are here tonight? Then he goes to
a bunch of other racial slurs and it's really uncomfortable.
The movie does a great job of kind of capturing
how uncomfortable that is, and then he kind of keeps going.
He says, listen, the reason I want to say it
is because when that word is un when we can't
say the word, it's an unspeakable word, that's what gives
it this power. So he's trying to suck the venom
(12:03):
out of it. Kind Of to me, that's a fascinating,
kind of a brilliant point. But the interesting thing is
that when he was going through his legal trials, you
can't find a transcript where they would prosecute him for
saying the N word. In nineteen sixty three nineteen sixty four,
it was all sex stuff or describing what they was,
(12:23):
all homosexual acts. That was what got him in trouble.
But nobody, the cops did not say you couldn't say
that now that to me is example of how the
taboo changes so much, you know what I'm saying. So
for me, I just think he's a fearless guy. I
don't think any I think every comic owes like a
debt to Lenny Bruce. So I wanted to make this,
(12:44):
you know, this sort of a labor of love because
I love comedy.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
No, yeah, and you're right, I mean Lenny Bruce and
what he did and the impact of the cancel culture,
the not cancel culture, and you know, the Shane Gillis
and all of it and situations and stuff with myself
and you know what you should say, and that it's
really an interesting time. And you and I both on
the playing field on Twitter X and you know, we
(13:10):
both know the rules and regulations about the Twitter and
the X and how that goes.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
And it's good that you did this.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
And uh again, I urge everybody to subscribe, rate review
Eli's podcast Breaking History. Uh the newest episode Vulgarians at
the Gate, and it's on put out.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
For the Free Press.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
A shout out to the Free Press, and you could
find it everywhere in anywhere you listen to.
Speaker 5 (13:36):
Pre Press Loves Mike rap By the way Prepress loves
Mike Rap just want to say you're you're, You're, You're
our kind of guy.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Good past. You know.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
I read an article speaking of the Free Press's speaking
of all things that are going on in the world,
worldwide news, and you are the worldwide news correspondent of
the imrap Per Stereo podcast. So I have to ask
you a few questions about that because you've always shared
such great important insight. I know so much more than
I did when I first had you on the podcast
(14:19):
than I do now. But you are an expert, and
you you know, and I told you this the other day.
You know, some of the things that you understand about
how the foreign policy works in regards to the United
States is so new to so many people, including myself,
and I think sometimes you might take it for granted,
thinking everybody knows what Eli Lake knows because you study this.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (14:41):
No, I've tried to got to, you know, kind of
break it down for a general audience.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
Yeah, And I think it's important because a lot of people,
including myself, care more than they ever have. So you know,
this week, Qatar quitar guitar has been in the news.
So I'm just gonna ask you, like, why does Katar
have so much power and how the fuck does Katar.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
Have so much money?
Speaker 5 (15:07):
Well, okay, the money is because of the oil and
because Qatar is also was smart enough to kind of
set up a banking I mean, like there's a lot
of banking and oil that goes together, and so they
just made a mint on that. Now, if you want to,
and I don't want, I mean, we could spend the
next three hours talking about this piece, but we have
(15:28):
a massive investigation that we just dropped today on Qatar
by my colleagues Jay Solomon and Franny Block.
Speaker 4 (15:35):
It's very good, by the way, Yeah, you gotta read.
Speaker 5 (15:38):
That's a reference point if you really want to, like
get into the weeds, because that is a piece about
how this very wealthy nation and a very tiny nation
has used its like vast wealth to purchase influence all
over America. Not just it's a traditional way with like
(15:58):
you know, paying lawyers and life, but universities, they've got
media deals. It's unbelievable how much money they have poured
into influence in the last ten fifteen years. And that
is a huge thing right now. I mean you see it,
like I live in Washington, DC when a couple of
years ago when the Capitals won the Stanley Cup. I
(16:18):
mean you saw like brought to you by Qatar all
over like the subway and stuff. So there is a
major campaign and this is the piece to understanding all
of the people. People that you know are even real
good on Israel, like Lindsay Graham has certainly been boosted
by the Qataris. So I really got to say, you
(16:39):
got to read it. It's a terrific piece of journalism.
But the reason I think you're talking about it it's
been in the news this week is because the Kataris
just gave a gift of an air force one basically
to President Trump. And the original terms of the deal
was that he gets to keep the plane for his
presidential library.
Speaker 4 (16:59):
That insane.
Speaker 5 (17:00):
That's like a personal gift from a you know, frenemie nation.
And you know, the US relationship with the qatar is complicated.
We have a military base there. The Qataris also provide
their diplomatic offices, you could say, to speak to dirtbag
terrorist groups like Hamas. They were important in the diplomacy
(17:21):
with the getting out of Afghanistan, working with the Taliban,
and they have a relationship with the Iranians and the US.
He uses them as a kind of go between at times.
On the other hand, they're the one like all the
other Gulf states. I'm not a fan of how Saudi
organizes its society as an as an American who appreciates
(17:42):
small al liberal values, but they're on the right side
when it comes to radical Islamic terrorism. Qatar is no,
Qatar is not. That's the one Gulf state that isn't
Saudi Emirates. You know, these other countries that are part
of the Golf Cooperation Council, which is like I don't know,
(18:03):
something like eighty percent or seventy percent of the world's
oil is represented in this, you know, small group of
nations in the Persian Gulf. But what you have is
this one country, Qatar, that is still working with and
funding the radical Islamic terror groups, whether it's Hamas, they
work closely with the Taliban. They made a strategic decision
(18:23):
basically to try to play both sides, to have the
relationship in the United States but also the relationship with
radical Islam, and that has been the root of the problem.
If you want to know where the money for Hamas
and where the senior leadership. A lot of their senior
leadership lives. They live in Guitar. Some of them live
in Turkey. That's also bad. But it's mainly Qatar that
provides the money and the funding. You know, that was
(18:46):
almost certainly used into October seventh. I mean, that's that's
the reality.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
Is there no way, you know, for me this week
with the.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
Miracle incredible, crazy release of hostage eat On Alexander.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
From New Jerseys born in tell Avis, but you grew
up in New.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
Jersey and the idea of the plane being given to Trump,
whether or not that actually happens, and then it was
suggested that eat An Alexander go to Qatar and meet
Trump and the leaders of Qatar, and it really Eli,
it really sent me into a dark, sad spiral for
(19:34):
a few hours, Like I was just like, what the fuck?
Speaker 1 (19:38):
And you know, I came out of the spiral and
this is just a couple of days ago.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
But I feel like, for all of our sakes, and
I know you can't answer this for sure, but is
it just like Qatar is not going to go anywhere
and we just have to sort of deal with them
the best we can and get the best and the
most out of it as Americans and as Zionus. And
(20:01):
it's like they're not going to just disappear. We're not
going to viscerate them from the face of the earth.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
So we just have to like we got a fucking
party with them.
Speaker 5 (20:10):
Like no, no, no. There's a couple of things. One is,
first of all, we should say that trump policies in
this regard are at at odds with them itself. It's
kind of a paradox. On the one hand, you have
a Department of Education at this point and a Justice
Department that is for the first time really looking at
(20:32):
all the foreign money that's poured into the universities and
guitar throws. I think twenty billion over the last twenty
five years. It's an incredible amount of money that they
have poured into some of our best universities. Getting a
handle on that, what is all that money buying them
is an important issue. And on the one hand, Trump's
(20:52):
has putty what so far looks like much better policies
than any of his predecessors. On the other hand, you
have Trump accepting at first the gift of the Air
Force one. I actually think he's gonna end up walking
away from that because there was too much outrage over it.
And you also have uh, you know, Trump visiting Doha,
he's meeting with I mean, I think it's a great
(21:12):
thing that Bashar Assad is no longer the leader of Syria.
But the guy who replaced him was a former hardcore
jahatist who killed Americans when he was in you know,
fighting us in Iraq.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
There is no such thing as halfway. Gi Hottis. There's
no such thing as halfway.
Speaker 4 (21:28):
I know, I know, I know.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
Just to quote the great mob Deep a prodigy Havoc,
there's no such thing as halfway crooks, and there's no
such thing as halfway.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
Gi Hottis.
Speaker 4 (21:37):
Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
And other presidents, you're going we'll talk about Syria, but
other presidents have put sanctions on Syria.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
They've removed sanctions on Syria.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
As of the recording of this Iron Wrap Wort Stereo podcast,
America has removed sanctions on Syria. Like this guy's a
fucking psychopath, lunatic Jihattis. I don't care if you shave
him down and put him in a fucking who you know, heasy,
he is what he is.
Speaker 5 (22:02):
Period, Well, there are I would say it was very
bad under Assad. I don't want to make this clear.
What was before was terrible. Assad was a direct ally
of Hesblah. Assad allowed for the transhipment of the missiles
that are that rained down on Israel.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
Know.
Speaker 5 (22:22):
Assad was a terrible and also a brutal tyrant who
killed hundreds thousands of his own people. The new leadership
of Syria has a time said things that you'd like
to hear in terms of we think minorities and Christians
should be able to live here. But they've nonetheless been
horrific kind of ethnic purges as well, and it's unclear
(22:42):
whether he has ordered those or hasn't been powerful enough
to stop them. But there is a real problem. The
thing is, I think what Trump is trying to do
here is he's saying, all right, we're going to wipe
the slate clean. But it's very easy for the United
States to slap sanctions back on. And the one thing
that Trump has also made clear is he doesn't want
(23:02):
any more wars in the Middle East. It's interesting we
haven't seen yet him announced that there are US forces
in Syria still, and we haven't seen him announced that
the US is pulling out of Syria because it's a
small number of very highly trained special operators, so it's
a little bit more complicated. But I agree with you
there is no such thing as a halfway gee hottist.
(23:25):
And if his goal is to try to turn Syria
into like Taliban Afghanistan or something like that, then that's
going to be a huge problem. And it's one of
the reasons why, I mean, I find this amazing and fascinating.
But one of the subplots of all this is that
you're seeing hundreds and now thousands of Druze citizens of
Syria saying they want to be under Israel. That's amazing.
(23:49):
Drus are Arabs, by the way, that's not like a
special I mean, it's so so what you're seeing is
that like there's a huge reshuffling of stuff right now, and.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
And there was just a terrible assault and violence and
you know, killings of the Jews in Syria.
Speaker 5 (24:06):
Yeah, and so the Israel they wanted Israel to be
their protector, right and by the way, this is why,
thank god, you know, under pressure from Clinton and later Obama,
Israel didn't give up the goal on heights. Could you
imagine if they didn't have that very important strategic position
right now. The other thing to say is that for
(24:26):
all the foots hee that that Trump is playing with
Katar and that's you know, and there's these negotiations with Iran,
we don't know how that's going to go. All that's
on the Werrying side. He's been pretty good on Israel.
He has not been like Biden. He hasn't tried to
micromanage their decisions on war and so forth. You're not
seeing any kind of pressure in that regard. So I
think there's a lot of unresolved policies at this point.
(24:48):
I'm most concerned that he's going to go for a
weak deal with Iran, and that will allow Iran to
keep its ability to make nuclear fuel. So what it
will be, basically is that he will lift sanctions in
exchange for a promise from the Iranians not to enrich
uranium to the point that they could be used in
a nuclear weapon. And that's just not going to be
(25:10):
good enough, and especially since right now they're defenseless against
an air strike because of Israel's work last year. So
it would be nice to try to take out some
of the industrial scale centrifuges that the Iranians have assembled,
and I agree that is unclear what's going to happen
right now with Trump, although what Trump's also saying is
(25:30):
it's not that we're not going to negotiate forever. There's
a time limit here. If we can't get to a
good deal, then we're gonna have to go the other way. So,
I mean, we'll see. This might be his way of
trying to convince the Tucker Carlson wing of the party
that he did everything he could to try to do
it without force, but now he has to use force
(25:51):
because he won't allow them to get a nuclear weapon.
If he does that, he'll that'll be great. If he
ends up kicking the can down the road for another
bad Obama style deal, then uh, it's gonna be very
bad for Israel. It's gonna be very bad I think
for the region of the world.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
I hope he loses his patience because their week you
said it. Israel decimated their their defense system in October
of twenty twenty four and the world hasn't officially thanked
Israel for doing that.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
And there was some incredible IAF people, and some of
them were women, and they went in there in one.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
Beautiful night, unbelievable, knock the shit out of them, and uh,
it's that wasn't even by the way, that wasn't even
their best game.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
No, they went in there that wasn't even their best game.
Speaker 5 (26:36):
That wasn't that wasn't their like fifty five of the
Garden that was like that was like their third best game.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
That wasn't even a game.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
I think they were in the warm up line. I
think it was like a lot of dunks in the war,
blah blah, like yeah, we can't do this, we can
we we could start, you know, shooting threes and all that,
but right now we're just warming up and we're showing
you like boom, we can fucking dunk on your head,
like we can do like that old school dominiqueuil.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
Can that Doctor j shit? You know that Sean Kemp
shit podcast. You said Tucker Carlson.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
And the right right wing and the Tucker Calson part
of the Republican Party. Is I know you can't say
this for sure, it's all your opinion. Does Tucker Calson
have a say in the party? Is he like a
Rabbel riser pot stirring of fuck? Because you know, I've
(27:41):
come to terms with some of these people, and I
get some of these people. I think Tucker Carlson, you know,
because I know we're gonna get into Countie. I think
Tucker Carlson is a bad guy. I think Tucker Carlson
has anti Semitic thoughts through his head. And I think
his whole America First thing is a put on. I
think he's you know, this is his laying, this is
(28:02):
his audience. But the amount of discussion that he does
about Jews in Israel, and not just Israel, it's Jews
in Israel. The amount of people that he has on
his show about Jews in Israel, and it's all negative views,
negative points of view, negative vibes, And anybody.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
Would go on Tucker Carlson.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
There's so many great people that are pro Zionists, pro
Israel that he could have on. He doesn't have any
of them on when he mentions Israel. It's always with
a negative vibe and a negative guest, what is his
fucking deal, Tucker Carlson. He could have on Barry Weiss,
he could have on Dance in You, or he could
have on you.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
He could have on one a Viva.
Speaker 5 (28:40):
Klimpas he's on g He's on jihat against Barry Weiss.
He's like he's definitely going after her.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
Well, Tucker Carlson, man, I can't stand this motherfucker.
Speaker 5 (28:50):
Well, okay, so a couple of things. I Uh, I've
known Tucker for a long time. I mean in Washington.
I've been on his old Fox show, And I would
say that, like, there was a moment in twenty when
the whole media was like insane and telling us there
were mostly peaceful riots, when there were real riots and
shit like that, and he was the one place you
(29:10):
could go and you could get like real information. So
I credit him for that. He's, by the way, he
is a really smart guy. I think you're right he
has taken a turn. But here's the other thing I
would say about Tucker Carlson. I wonder sometimes how much
of this is a play to take away the audience
of the very successful Ben Shapiro media founded operation, The
(29:31):
Daily Wire. The Daily Wire is a right wing conservative
news organization that did better than all of the other
you know, conservative news outlets. It took off, and this
is a way of kind of trying to get people
to turn on his audience by making Israel the big issue,
(29:52):
and I don't think it really should be the big issue,
but that's I think that's one element of maybe what's
going on is that Tucker's started his own media company
and he is trying to very cynically create another space
on the right. The other thing is this he is
found that by kind of signaling, if you will, in
(30:15):
some ways like that you know, there's this you know,
powerful Jewish lobby, Israel lobby that is silencing us, and
that if you if you say the wrong thing, you know,
the bad things are going to happen to you. Well,
he's playing on like there's a lot of people out
there that want to hear that. So there's a there's
an audience of Americans and we're a big country, as
(30:36):
you know, and you don't need that many and you know,
so he's gone there. I also have a problem by
the way that he went to Vladimir Putin's Russia and
had like this fawning interview with the President of Russia
where he let him get away with all kinds of
stuff that he wouldn't have done if he had on
like you know, somebody who we disagreed with. So I again,
I have a lot of criticisms of him, but I
(30:57):
think it's a problem and in terms of his power
with in the Republican Party, I can tell you that
nobody wants to cross him. I think if Tucker goes
after you, it's a huge problem, you know, kind of
on the right, and you will find yourself vulnerable in
a primary if you're an elected official. And so I
think that's another part of it as well, where there's
(31:19):
a kind of sense where he does have a lot
of power. And he was brought in early on in
the transition for in mar A Lago as they were
coming up with who was going to staff the second
Trump administration. Tucker was, you know, one of those voices
that could veto somebody didn't think would be worth it.
Had a lot of influence in terms of who would
(31:40):
get the top jobs in the US government. So he's
a powerful figure right now on the right. And I
think he's made it pretty clear that he doesn't I mean,
like his what he says about Iran doesn't make any
sense to me, which is like he always puts it
on like we don't want to start a war with Iran.
This is a country that blew up our soldiers in
(32:02):
Iraq and Afghanistan with these roadside bombs. This is a
country that is menacing its neighbors. It supports terrorism that
has kidnapped Americans, that has killed Americans. Iran's been at
war with us, you know what I'm saying. So he's
flipping that in a way that makes it seem like
people are seeking out war with Iran without acknowledging all
(32:23):
the things that Iran is doing that you know are
obviously they are continuing to be at war with us.
So for me, it's like I have a real problem
with how he presents it. But unfortunately he's a big
platform right now and just got to deal with it.
This is the world we live in unfortunately.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
Yeah, I agree, I agree. Yeah, I don't have.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
The the kouth or the coolness. I'm too emotional to
play games with people like him. I see through the
bullshit and I see what they're doing, and I get
you know, you're right about the media company and the
Ben Shapiro of it all, and I just don't have
the tolerant for it. It's too like, you know, mind gaming,
(33:03):
and I'm not down with that shit. I'm down with
you know, I'm not down with that shit.
Speaker 5 (33:07):
But he's I just point something out like, because you
are you've lived this, okay, When people showed up at
your clubs where you were performing and putting pressure on
the venues, that was an effort to try to silence
you to cancel you didn't work. Obviously, it's not going
to cancel Mike Wrap. But the point is is that
he's making it seem like the only side that's trying
(33:28):
to cancel anyone is the pro Israel side. I don't
know about you. My view is I don't want to cancel.
Like I understand that there's anti Semites out there. I
want to use my free speech to counter their their
anti Semitic speech. That's how I look at it. Maybe
there are people who think that there should be people
who are canceled for saying certain things, but it is
(33:48):
a kind of like weird vice that the Jewish Americans
right now are in because we're really not calling on
people to be canceled. We're not calling on people that
he's saying, you can't say that they're going to be consequences.
It's the other side that's doing it. But then they're
playing the victim very much like the Israel Palestine conflict.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
You know what I'm saying, say, it's the same thing.
Speaker 5 (34:09):
Like, like I'm saying, what is it when they're like
protesting you that what are they doing? They're trying to
get the club owner to cancel your gig. That's what
they're doing. They're trying to stop you from earning your
money and you're applying your trade and saying what you
want to say, and that they do that shit all
the time. And it's like then they go around and
(34:30):
they say, oh, you're trying to censor me.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
That's right, shit, Yeah, I I totally agree. All right,
you said you had some questions.
Speaker 5 (34:36):
For me what I wanted to get your take on, Like,
you know, I I wouldn't call myself necessarily. I don't
defend Kanye's ridiculous and uh just asinine opinions and what
he says and his flirtations with anti Semitism, which is
more than a flirtation. Now it's who he is, I guess,
but this seems to have crossed the line, this latest.
(34:59):
I just wanted to what the fuck?
Speaker 4 (35:01):
Man?
Speaker 5 (35:02):
And by the way, isn't it weird that black people
are in the video? Do you know about Hitler. Do
you know what the Nazis said about like the black race?
I mean, what the fuck is wrong with you? I'm
just trying to see. I didn't see the video. I
think it's well. People will do anything for money. Fame
is the ultimate drug. And if Kanye says you're gonna
(35:22):
be in a Kanye video.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
People will will you know, They'll put on the baby
oil and they'll throw up Hitler signs and they'll do
you know, they'll do whatever.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
I mean.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
I think that he is rubber room status. I think
he should be in a mental institution. I think that
I'm glad that the Kardashians won't let him see his kids.
Anybody who says he loves Hitler and loves Nazis and
he's a Nazi, why would you want any kids, let
alone the mother of your kids. Why would you want
this person around them. I think Donda's alive. I think
(35:53):
his mother is actually still alive.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
I think I think that's my theory.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
I think that Donda is alive with Tupac and Cuba,
and she could no longer.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
Stand uh, she could understand.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
The reality that her son is Kanye West so and
I think she she lives in Cuba in shame with Tupac.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
So would you would you.
Speaker 5 (36:17):
Con see that over his career I'm not talking about
like over his career. The man has put out some bangers,
no doubt, no doubt. I mean, okay, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
I mean, of course he's put out more than just
just some bangers. I mean he's one of the most
prolific artists of his generation. That being said, you know,
I could move on from listening to him ever again.
I'd never put him in my top five, never at
his high point ever. But you know, I'm not gonna
(36:47):
say he wasn't. You know, he didn't make a lot
of incredible music I put.
Speaker 5 (36:51):
I put him on the top five producers. I wouldn't
call him a top five lyricist.
Speaker 1 (36:55):
Yes, I would have to look.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
I don't know if i'd put him in my top five,
but I wouldn't argue with him being in a top
He's made smackers, he's made club bangers, he's made hardcore
hip hop, you know, boom back beats.
Speaker 1 (37:07):
He's you know, he.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
Was extremely prolific and extremely important artist. Unfortunately those days
are done and he's he's like a boxer who's been
punched and beaten up too many times, and he's continued
to show up in the ring. He's like a fifty
one year old heavyweight fighter who keeps coming to the
ring flabby, out of shape and needs to just you know,
shut it down. That's where he's at now, and I
(37:30):
think he should be in an institution, you know, calling
for Chief to to you know, hold his arms up
and throw the ball in his hand like Jack Nicholson and.
Speaker 4 (37:38):
Love the one flow of the Coogers.
Speaker 5 (37:39):
Okay, since we got a little bit more time left,
I just want to get like, how excited are you
about this next team?
Speaker 1 (37:46):
Man? No, ma, I'm very excited about this next team.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
I'm hoping and praying by the time this Iron Rapport
Stereo podcast comes out that we are in the Eastern
Conference Finals Old School versus the Indiana Pacers.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
There's no love loss there either.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
I mean, you know, when I think of the Indiana Pacers,
it's not so much the franchise or the city the
way Boston affects me Beyond the Celtics the Celtics, there
is no Celtics Nicks rivalry. There never was even in
the sixties and seventies. I mean, We had some good
matchups as.
Speaker 5 (38:21):
A seventies the rivalry because they won the year after
you got you know a little bit.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
But it wasn't like back and forth. It was more
of the Lakers Celtics.
Speaker 2 (38:29):
That being said, New York, Boston, Boston, New York Patriots, Giants,
Red Sox, Yankees, Mets, Bruins, Rangers, and just Boston in general.
Speaker 1 (38:40):
They have an inferiority complex towards all things in New York.
Speaker 2 (38:44):
And that's fine. This is the world's greatest city. Boston's
a fine city with great people. However, you're never gonna
be New York. And you could have Banna after Banna
after no Wa, Gopaciaparra and your Matt Damons and your
Beneffleckx and all the Greek comedians you talk about comedians
that have come out of a Boston. The list goes
on and on and on. That being said, you'll never
(39:06):
be New York. And that's why this year, going at
the Celtics, it's like a double triple win. It's not
just a win or a series. It's like it means
more to put our thumb on them and remind them
that were the greatest city in the world.
Speaker 4 (39:21):
I agree.
Speaker 5 (39:22):
I have to also say, you look at the roster
on paper and you're like, how's that team gonna get
all these points? And then Jalen Brunson finds a way
with that old man style, but he has mastered it.
And what It's like a breath of fresh air in
the sense of, like, I just he's bringing back this thing. Remember,
(39:43):
like it was like when I just thought everybody was
trying to beat Steph Cerry, you know what I mean,
Like everyone's gonna just be that guy dropping bombs at
behind the three, off the dribble, doing all that thing,
and he's like the mid range Master. He's so gritty,
and it seems like he's just one of those incredible athletes.
When the pressure is at its highest, he performs at
(40:05):
his highest level. My hat is off to him as
much as I you know, I feel as a Sixers fan,
I fucking hate the Knicks and the Celtics, but this
series really just brought me in. I mean, they showed
so much heart and they were winning that game before Tatum.
They were winning that game before Tatum got.
Speaker 2 (40:23):
Oh no, that game was the game was done. The
game was done before the great Jason Tatum went down
and by the.
Speaker 4 (40:28):
Way, he was having an all world performance.
Speaker 2 (40:30):
I mean, he's sick, and I hope he's you know,
better soon, because you never want to win like that.
You never want to close out a series like that ever, ever, ever.
Speaker 5 (40:41):
But they were gonna win that game even if he
wasn't down. I really believe that was. They were like
seven or eight. And when he went, when he got
the Achilles.
Speaker 2 (40:47):
Game four was was was done. So that that game
was done. But I wish him well and I you know,
and I wish the Celtics well in the future. It's
just not this year. This year's done. As of the
recording this Iron Rapport Stereo Pockets, I hope I'm that,
you know, I have to eat those words anyway, Eli,
I want everybody to make sure they follow you on
Twitter where you're.
Speaker 1 (41:07):
You're one of my first people. Every day I go
to you on Twitter.
Speaker 2 (41:10):
And follow Eli Lake at Eli Lake, and you subscribe,
rate review to his podcast Breaking History, which is put
out by the Free Press, and make sure you check
out this new episode, Bulgarians at the Gate, which is
House Censors Lost, the Culture War and all.
Speaker 1 (41:25):
Things Lenny Bruce. This is an incredible episode.
Speaker 2 (41:28):
We talked Qatar, Saudi terrorist, Kanye and Lenny Bruce.
Speaker 1 (41:34):
Who's doing that?
Speaker 2 (41:35):
Nobody else is doing that and it made a great
mob deep reference. This is a fantastic episode once again.
Speaker 4 (41:42):
Museum quality podcast.
Speaker 1 (41:45):
Boom Eli. I appreciate you coming and the insight and
the friendship.
Speaker 5 (41:49):
Man I could do you absolutely, absolutely too.
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