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Speaker 1 (00:10):
Boom, Have no fear of the Iron Rapperport Stereo podcast
is here.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Bigdy Boom, have no fear of the im or Rappaport
Stereo podcast is here. Welcome to the Iron Dome of Disruption.
Welcome to the Zygity Zone of Disruption. I love this episode.
I love this episode. I got a young man, twenty
three year old young man named Eyal Jakobe, who I
met on social media. You're like, what you met a
(00:34):
twenty three year old young man on social media? Yes,
this kid is a U Penn graduate. He has been
witnessing firsthand all the craziness, the kookiness, the discussions in
real time and real life, all the anti Jewish, all
the anti Semitism that went on at the University of Pennsylvania.
He shared his story. He's actually litigating right now against
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U Penn.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
He's twenty five.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Three years old, he's got the voice of a fifty
five year old newscaster. He's smart, he's brilliant, he's passionate,
and I gotta say he's super duper inspiring. I love
this episode. I'm proud of this episode. Let's get right
to it. I got y'all ya Kobe, who you don't know,
but you're gonna know and you're gonna love This episode
on the I Am rap Ports Stereo podcast coming up
(01:20):
right now. Miles Jordan aka the Bleach Brothers aka the
Dust Brothers. Start this episode with something real nice. Start
this episode with something real love, but most spartly, start
this episode with something real fun. I Am Rapaport Stereo Podcast.
Let's go baby, Iron Rapports Stereo Podcast is here. As
I mentioned, I have a guest somebody who I met online,
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which always sounds weird, but in this day and age,
especially with the Jewish community, I've met incredible people that
I now even consider friends online and this young man
is somebody that has inspired me and I know has
inspired a lot of people. And his story and his
information that he shares on social media, particularly on Twitter,
(02:06):
is a must. He's a must fall So, like I
mentioned earlier, I want to introduce ey' Al Yah Kobe
two the I Am Rappaport Stereo Podcast.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
How are you my friend?
Speaker 3 (02:16):
Good? Thank you so much for having me on.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
I appreciate you coming on. So let's just get into it.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
I believe I first heard your story read about your
story because of everything that was going on your last
year year and a half at u Penn. Obviously there's
been so much discussion congressional hearings, but you were one
of the kids who was at UPEN post October seventh
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and dealing with the anti Jewishness, anti Semitism, anti Zionist,
the bullying, and you witnessed it firsthand and you know
took it, you know, all the way through. So can
you just share your story and your experience.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
Is definitely I describe myself as an accidental activist, as
someone who prior to October seventh, I had, you know,
my personal Instagram, my personal Snapchat, nothing public whatsoever. And actually,
pre dating October seventh that UPenn, we had something called
the Palestine Writes Literature Festival, hosted by a woman who
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goes by the name of Susan Abuhalla, who today when
we sounded the alarms, we were gasoling to being told
this is just to celebrate policy and culture. This is
you know, nothing to do with politics whatsoever. And I
started speaking up because the list of speakers was an
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entire menu of the world's biggest anti Semites, ranging from
people like Roger Waters to people like like Norah Rikott and.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
The executive director today sits beyond zoom.
Speaker 4 (03:57):
Whereas I have rational framings and Martin Luther King quote
behind me, she has the PFLP flag behind her. And
so I started speaking out about that. And in the
same period of this, the week of the Palais Gondwright's
literature festival, the Hillo was broken into by a student
yelling fuck the Jews and flipping over tables. The Khabadsuka
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was vandalized. Jews Are Nazis was written adjacent to Penn's
Jewish Return in the House. And so if you just
cherry picked one incident, then you could say this is,
you know, a one off. There's gonna be biggots in
the world. But when you have three different, clearly anti
Semitic events in the span of one week along with
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this festival, it proves to be a little bit more systemic.
So one October seventh hit, I'd assumed that day with alumni, parents,
administrators to talk about the ensuing anti semitism that was
on campus at ABVI. That zoom meeting was canceled because
I woke up to a completely different reality than the
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day before. So that's how I started getting into it
and now I'm here wait.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Oh, so coincidentally, you had a Zoom meeting set up
on October seventh, obviously before everything had went down.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
That was just a coincidence.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
I mean, we were having Zoom meetings pretty much every
single day since the event that hill.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
There was sorry a fourth incident. There was a.
Speaker 4 (05:30):
Swastika drawn inside one of the campus buildings, this massive
red swastika, and so we were having meetings every day.
And on October seventh, we were supposed to have a
meeting to continue a conversation, and obviously it was canceled
because there was other things going on.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
That's I didn't realize that there was so much that
you guys were dealing with and concerned about pre October seventh,
twenty twenty three. So afterwards, after October seven, how did
the experience of being a student a you Pen ramp up?
Speaker 1 (06:06):
How did it change?
Speaker 2 (06:08):
And walk me through everything that you were experiencing in
those first few days, weeks, months, and consequently, you know,
throughout your time at you Pen.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
I would say the way that I described the current
situation on college campuses in America, on the Petrie dishes
and they have bacteria whatever, you want to call them
in the Petri dish, and that bacteria just multiplied post
October seven.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
But the bacteria has always been there.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
There's always been the same professors, there's been the same
administrators who have zero moral clarity, who have no backbone.
There's the same cowards on campus that refuse to speak
up and just be bystanders.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
And so what.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
Happened was on October seventh, rather than sunlight, which should
have killed the bacteria in the petriot dish, it was
this darkness that set up that allowed it to multiply.
So in October eighth, there was all about ten minutes
from UPenn's campus, which is partially organized by students and professors,
where one of the main speakers at the rally said,
(07:09):
I salute Camas for a job well done. I don't
care about innocent civilians. There are non in Israel. And
the entire crowd erupted in applause and cheers at this speaker.
And so it's not just one rogue speaker, it's the
entire crowd of five hundred people in the middle of
the day that are celebrating the massacre. And so I
(07:29):
penned I've written an article a couple of weeks back
during the mess of the swastika and the Hillel and
Lahammad and the festival prior to October seventh, talking about
how the first article I've ever written in my life
talking about how Penn is you know, the nickname of
Penn is jew Penn or the University of Pennsylvania, and
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how this anti Semitism on campus is just an untenable situation.
So I pended an article on October eleventh called Penn
Set and Chance, talking about at a university has now
another opportunity to condemn antisemitism, condemn the slaughter of innocent
civilians in Israel, And instead what we got was four
separate statements by the former president, Liz McGill, because each
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one was more cowardly empathetic than the last. And so
Penn continued to prove that it had not found it
it's moral backbone. It's not found that any backbone for
that matter, to speak with moral clarity. And then in
December I was invited by the House Workforce and Education
Committee to come speak at the Republican Leadership Press Conference
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prior to the three college presidents from Columbia not Columbia Harvard,
m I T and U Penn. So I was invited
to speak alongside Speaker Johnson elist Stephonic and that video
went viral. And then since since that moment, which I
was not expecting, as well as talked about it being
an accidental activists, in my mind, I was just thinking,
(08:59):
this is so cool. I'm going to meet the Speaker
of the House. I'm going to be in Congress. I'm
going to be in Washington, d C. And luckily that
video went viral. I did a bunch of media interviews,
kept speaking out, and then the opportunity to testify again
before the House Judiciary Committee to talk about certain attorney
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generals in highly liberal cities like New York City, like
Philadelphia where we have Larry Krasner in Filly and I
don't even want to say the name of the Attorney
general in New York City to give any credence or
respect to them, and talk about how they're failing to
prosecute the people who are taking over buildings, failing to
prosecute people who are assaulting their fellow classmates. And then
(09:42):
after that hearing, I downloaded X. I made a public
Instagram account and that's how I've managed to stay vocal
since graduating.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Were you at the hearings when a last defonik was
taking on the presidents? Were you there so because you
must have been before. I know, I just asked you
a question. I'm interrupting. I'm sorry because for me, first
of all, it is the first time I really heard
at least the phonic speak I was talking about elated.
(10:15):
I was so moved by the tenacity and genuine passion
which she showed. And of course this is the context, context, context,
you know, that's really the number one iconic thing from
those hearings. But I like, I feel like if I
met at least the phonic I would I would cry
(10:35):
because it was like she stood up so strongly and
so genuinely, especially for somebody in government. I always feel
like they're all so full of crap, but like her
passion was so real and she's not even Jewish, and
it was just like, this is just somebody who's standing
because it's so obvious what's going on. And her response
and the way she was questioning was was in that
(10:58):
tone like it's so obvious, like are you gonna sit here,
lie to me and lie to the world about what
we've all seen and what we've all witnessed right in
front of my face, and I'm going to give you
another chance to answer it, and they just couldn't get
it right. And that's why I just was so impressed
by her. So sorry to ask you a question to
cut you off, but I just wanted to because it
must have been a lot to you to see that
happening under present.
Speaker 4 (11:19):
I don't know, and you're spot on, and I've had
the honor of meeting alis Staphonic tens of times at
this point, and what you saw in that video is
what you get from Alistaphonic. She has complete moral clarity,
and it's not only impressive, but like you said, touching
how much he cares about the Jewish community despite not
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not being Jewish, and showing a lot more moral fortitude
and passion with combat anti Semitism more than a lot
of Junes that I've that I've met. But to your
point on whether I was there or not, so I
the way that the committee room works is that there's
two kind of waiting areas for the congress people their
(12:00):
staff in the back, and after about an hour of
listening to the hearing, I wanted to just hang out
in the side room on like a comfy couch and
just watch it from there. And thank god I did,
because my face was literally right behind Claudine Gay when
she was asked to calling for the genocide of Jews
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violet the code of conduct, and my jaw dropped, literally
dropped hearing not only the inability to say obviously violates
a code of conduct, but the smirk and sort of
arrogance of her answer as well. And so I would
have become an instant viral meme with my facial expression
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had I been still in that hearing room. But actually,
a fun fact is that stefanic vant of questioning wasn't
just calling for the genocide of Jews, violet the code
of conduct, and that.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
Being the gotcha moment that went viral.
Speaker 4 (12:57):
The gotcha moment was she was expecting them all to say, yes,
obviously it violates a code of conduct, like why would
you even ask that question? And for her to say, okay, well,
then if it does, why aren't you doing anything about it?
Because here are statements from professors, students, administrators that clearly
do call for the genocide of Jews, and so it's
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crazy that and a lot of people don't know this
is that that wasn't even supposed to be got your question.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
I was supposed to lay.
Speaker 4 (13:23):
Up followed by what was supposed to be the gotcha question.
And it's just I mean, two of them lost their
jobs for it.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
So yeah, it was a crazy, crazy thing to witness.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
You went on to take on your university. Correct, Yes, we're.
Speaker 4 (13:56):
Still in active litigation with the university.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
What can you talk about in regards to taking on
is it just you like, I know sometimes when if
you're still involved with, you know, litigation in lawsuits. I've
had one or two in the past. I know that
you know, you're not allowed to talk about it much.
What can you share? What can you talk about your case?
Your suit against you pen.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
So I made the decision too.
Speaker 4 (14:23):
I was actually I was fairly hesitant to sue the
University of UPenn. I say this proudly as a school
that I personally love, the Institution of UPenn. My grandfather attended,
my mom attended, my brother attended. I hope my kids attend.
And so I'm like, I wasn't an activist. I'm not
planning into going into activism, planning to going to finance
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and suing your university is not always the best thing,
so I was very hesitant about it. And then in
I want to say November of twenty twenty three, So
to preface this is I had had a call with
the head of public Safety through the hill L break
in after the command incident, after the Swastik incident.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
Because at Penn, being in West Philadelphia.
Speaker 4 (15:07):
It's not the nicest neighborhood and so if someone, let's say,
gets mugged ten blocks away, the entire campus gets an
alert on their phone to just avoid the area. And
I was very frustrated with the university, sigifically with public
safety that when the hillel is being broken into and
people are only sucked the jews while flipping over tables,
that there was no pen alert that was sent. The
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information was it's still to this day we don't actually
know exactly what transpired, but the information was never even
divulged from the university in the first place. And so
they came back to me, they're like, you know, you're right,
we should have in the like Hopefully an incident like
this never happens again, but if it does, we'll change
(15:49):
our policies accordingly.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
Great like thought everything was good.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
And then I was eating in Hillel, eating lunch in
Hillel in November, and I noticed the.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
SWAT unit bomb sniffing dogs.
Speaker 4 (16:03):
That were in the Hillel cafeteria and there was about
three hundred people in the Hillo and I go up
to one of the police officers. I'm like, Hey, what's
going on right now? And they say that there's an
active bomb threat in the Hillo. And I was petrified
that the university knowing that there's a bomb threat, that
now we know the bomb threat was made at around
(16:25):
seven am. The email to the school, to the student body,
to the professors that there was an active bomb threat
against Hillo wasn't.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
Made until seven pm that night meeting.
Speaker 4 (16:38):
For twelve hours, people were inside the Hillo and it
was clearly credible enough to the point where they had
the SWAT unit actively sweeping the building for any bombs,
and yet they never shared the information. And so it
was that day that I decided that there's no saving
Pen Internally. It's a systemic issue of rot that needs
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to needs to be taken care of from a court
dictating to Pen the actions that they must take to
protect not just their Jewish students, but all students on campus, and.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
So now in active litigation.
Speaker 4 (17:14):
There's two other name plaintiffs and several other unnamed plaintiffs
as well.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Wow, so you said before this your your family went
to you Pen, your mother went to you Pen, and
you hope your kids go to you Pen.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
I'm surprised you still feel.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
That way after what your experience, or do you hope
that you Pen improves and changes or like you know,
I'm surprised that you say that you don't have like resentment,
Like fuck this place.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
I don't want anything to do with that. Why would
I send my kids here?
Speaker 3 (17:43):
I feel that because the school needs to change.
Speaker 4 (17:46):
My kids when they apply of college will probably be
in twenty five years from now.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
So I give myself to I got it. I got
it to reform, to reform the school.
Speaker 4 (17:54):
But the way that I think about it is that
it's simply an untenable.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
Situation that's happening right now.
Speaker 4 (18:00):
You have professors internally that are so frustrated by the
school not focusing on education, prioritizing this Marxist in doctrination
that idolizes terrorism and jihadism and Marxism and communism. And
not just focusing on the basics of what an education
is meant to be. You have an alumni class that
is outraged that their donations to the schools have been
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dedicated creating never ending bureaucracy to creating these DEI centers
that do nothing other than promote exclusion. And so the
reason that I'm very confident the school will restore its
values is because there's no other option. Either Pen Columbia, Harvard,
the rest of them just shut down or just become
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completely irrelevant, or they take the necessary actions. And I
personally believe that there's enough people that have their head
screwed on right to the point where these schools will
take the necessary actions that are needed true prioritize an
American education that promotes the values of Western civilization rather
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than Stalin and Akamandinajad and the Ayatola.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Speaking of market Marxist you're in New Yorker, right, Yes,
I have been talking.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
All of us are talking.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
New Yorkers are talking of all face denomination of racist,
crazy and color. What is your take on the mayoral
race coming up with zoron the moron Eric Adams, Curtis Sliwa,
and Cuomo, if you were a betting.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
Man, I know you're in finance.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
And although like I said, e'all is only twenty three,
even though he's got the voice of like a sixty
five year old man, like you should be in radio, man,
you should be doing you know, you should be doing
voiceover shit. You got some you should be doing like
you know, like sprite commercials or like you know, like
you know, bad breath commercials like try you know, listerine,
it'll make your breath smell smell fresh and voice sound
(20:00):
like mine.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
Based on everything we know today.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
In coming in the last few days of July, who
is going to win the election to become mayor of
New York City in November?
Speaker 4 (20:13):
Currently Zorron Mamdana is gonna be the mayor in come
the election at Isle. Every Paul has proven this because
for some reason, Adam's, Cuomo and Sliwa think that it's
proven in any way, shape or form for them to
split the vote of people with just an iota of
common sense In terms of the three and who I've
(20:37):
met with Andrew Kuomo, I've met with Irak Adams, I've
never met Siwa. But what I do know about sleewa
is that he's run for mayor three times and never
passed the thirty percent threshold. He has zero, literally zero
chance of winning, and him staying in this mayorial race
proves one thing that he cares more about his followers
online about his own stature in society than he does
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every day in the orcers who actually need someone that's
not a full on Marxist to run this city. And
so I think he would gain a lot more respect
by dropping out. People would have much more respect for him,
and if anything, you'd have a much higher chance to
run again in four years with people having the knowledge
that he put New Yorkers over his own.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
Gain and benefit.
Speaker 4 (21:23):
And so I think, you know, Slee one needs to
drop out the zero chance that he wins. And this
isn't me ripping into him or thinking that he's a
bad politician and that his policies are bad.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
It's simply looking at the fact that.
Speaker 4 (21:36):
He's run three times and lost badly every single time.
In terms of Cuomo and Adams, they both have their
respective issues, but I think Adams gets a lot of
slack for certain scandals that he's had. But at the
end of the day, New York City has been doing
(21:56):
well under Eric Adams. I mean, we just came out
of the Blasio ruined the city and it doesn't.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
In four years. You can't just solve all the problems
of New York City.
Speaker 4 (22:05):
And to be fair, I think Eric Adams, I don't
think he's done anything monumental to help the city or
fix the city.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
But has he done anything to make it worse?
Speaker 4 (22:12):
No, And I'd rather have someone that doesn't make the
city worse than Zoron Mumdani, who, by every metric possible
unless you live in an alternative universe where free everything works,
it's just not going to do anything to help the city.
And my biggest palm with his whole Mamdani craze is
this notion that he's sticking it to the elites, that
(22:35):
he's the man of the working class. When you look
at poll after pols who actually voted for Zoron, it
was the college educated, white, rich liberals that voted for
He is supported by the elites.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
The elites are voting for him.
Speaker 4 (22:49):
It was the black and brown communities, it was the
LATINX communities, it was the lower the lower class communities
that voted overwhelmingly for Andrew Cmo, because what do those
communities know? What are they product is predicated on individualism,
on merit, on earning what you have, not perpetually just
taking more and more from the working man and redistributing it,
(23:10):
which will never work ever and has been proven ever
to work. And so there needs to be some sort
of reorganization in messaging and framing and exposing that Zolon
isn't a man of the working people. He's a man
of the college educated white elite that feels somehow guilty
that they're rich. And so rather than just donating it
(23:31):
to charities, which is what any common sense person does,
they want the government to tell them to give up
their money. And a lot of people don't want that
to happen, specifically immigrants who need to make money to
provide for their family to lower class communities can't afford
just money being taken out of their paycheck to be redistributed.
(23:51):
And so I think it's you know, I think it's
a scary time for New York City, and I hope
that Guomo, Adams and Sliwa the the humility for two
of them to drop out prior to you know, let's
say a month and a half outside of the actual election.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
Then the way you talk, man, you might have to
run for May when you're old enough.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
I agree with every single thing you said.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
You said it in a way more eloquent way than
I talk about it, because it's so crazy to me,
and it's so frustrating, and it's.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
So surreal to me.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
And my wife told me the other day, you keep
asking everybody who do you think is going to win?
And everybody keeps telling you that Zora on the Moron
as of right now, is going to win.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
Why do you keep asking?
Speaker 2 (24:57):
Because I am so baffled that we're even in a
point where somebody like that could be in the game.
You know that it's even like a question, and it
would hurt me in my heart. I'm never gonna leave.
I'm never one of these like I'm gonna leave New York.
I'm not letting this guy run me out of New York.
And I really encourage a lot of other New Yorkers
(25:19):
if this does happen, do not leave New York. This
person cannot run true New Yorkers out of New York.
It would just be an embarrassment to me. It would
be an embarrassment to me. It's already embarrassment that he's
he's in contention, but I guess I have to start preparing.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
For the worst.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
I want to talk about you on Twitter because you
are I believe we met on Twitter.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
I know we physically met in Israel. The first time was.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
In in Israel, in Israel, Yeah, and.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
We had spoken on Twitter and all that stuff. But
your your Twitter account and it's at el Yakobe y Akob.
Why if my listeners aren't following, you should absolutely follow
You're so active, so thorough, so much information.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
What's been the craziest thing that's happened on Twitter?
Speaker 2 (26:11):
Aside from meeting of course Michael Rappaport, which I know
you just like can't even believe that that happened. But
what's been like the sort of craziest thing, the craziest
retweet people that have reached out for you. And I'm assuming,
like any great Jew on Twitter, you're now at the
level where you're getting death threats in the DMS, which
congratulations and kudos Mazeltov on that, because if you're not
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getting death threats in the DMS, you're really not doing
it right.
Speaker 4 (26:36):
X is like a whole other beast. In my opinion,
I think the app is dying severely. I mean, there's
been report after report that Russian and Iranian boxed hundreds
of thousands of them thus flooded xers. A report by
the Telegraph last week that they tried one hundred and
forty thousand accounts that we're pushing for Scottish intendance in
(27:02):
on x and as soon as the war between Israel
and Iran broke out, all these accounts just suddenly vanished,
meaning they were Ronni and bots that were actively trying
to sow division within the UK. You have similarly reports
by the Washington Posts, the New York Post, the Wall
Street Journal, all saying that Islamist accounts and Russian accounts
(27:27):
are intentionally trying to drive MAGA a wedgend MAGA and collasses.
And this isn't something that's coincidental by any means. It's
very much intentional. It's very brilliant when you think about it.
Is it totally have constant accounts pushing disinformation about any
(27:47):
topic on like in the world. If you could have
the comment section of each post just ripping on the
United States, just constantly pushing the exact same messaging.
Speaker 3 (27:59):
Over and over again.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
Whether or not you know the average person believes it
is not important. What it does is it creates the
psychology terms called the collective illusion, where you owe what
people get. Endorphemines, she means happiness when we feel like
we're in the majority, when our friend group is the biggest,
when we invite people to our birthday party and so
many more people show.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
Up than the other guy. And this is just a
human trait that we have.
Speaker 4 (28:25):
And so when you put this on social media, and
social media is filled with filth ranging from the United
States is the Great Satan to Israel is the Devil
and everything in between. It creates this collective illusion where
the average person sees a post of this morning, I
saw a post that N'tagne who said in nineteen seventy
(28:47):
that he can't wait to squeeze dry America, and then
tick it to the courtage just a complete lie that
Nathaniel has never said to post out thirteen thousand likes.
So even if your average person knows the down that
it's not true, there's always going to be that that
grain of doubt in their mind of oh wait, did
Nita I will actually say that, And that's the entire
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It's all about demoralizing individuals to break down everything they've
conceived before their common sense. And it's a Soviet tactic
and it's working incredibly on social media, specifically on access.
There's free speech one hundred percent, one person, one account.
It can't be one government one million accounts. And I
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have two simple solutions that I don't understand why Musk
doesn't adopt. Number one, if you have a blue check
mark on ACX, it's a requirement that you have the
country that you're posting from. Because I don't know if
you saw this, but there was this one account called
the red Pill Media that posted I'm an American, I
was born in Razion, not dying for Israel. That guy
was based in Karachi, Pakistan, zero zero relationship to that
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and States of Americas.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
So number one, you have.
Speaker 4 (30:00):
To put your country location if you have a blue
check mark on X. And the other one is banning
accounts from countries where the government doesn't allow the people
to have social media. So for instance, the Chinese government,
we know for a fact has done it, but a
Chinese citizen can't even access Twitter. So where are these
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accounts coming from they have to be the CCP that
is running these accounts, and so that's one sided warfare
that we have right now is that these Chinese boughts
are polluting American minds to think that China is somehow
superior to America.
Speaker 3 (30:38):
But we can't have.
Speaker 4 (30:39):
Americans showing the Chinese people that's free speech, democracy, being
able to go to a grocery store and actually enough
groceries on the shelf, not having a social credit system
where you're not allowed to even take a train if
your social credit scores TOOLA, all these things and until
one sided warfare.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
And so that's the other solution.
Speaker 4 (30:59):
And then any country which doesn't allow it's citizens on
social media platform, that county should just be black from
the social media platform itself.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
I think those are great, great ideas, and I think
there could even be more, but I think that those
are simple asks to make it just kind of have
some respect and dignity. And then specifically, again aside from me,
Michael Rapper, reaching out to who are some of the
other people you've met, the retweets and the sort of
(31:30):
conversations that you've had positive on your time, your new
time as an activist on X without.
Speaker 4 (31:39):
Saying any names that I don't want to expose anyone.
And you'll understand why is like you said, I probably
get one hundred death threats each day, to the point
where one death threat was literally a photo of my mom,
not where I live, where my family lives, a photo
of the front door of it, to the point where
I had to pay for products to sit outside, which
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is still there to make sure that this lunatic doesn't
actually come to my family's home.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
And I'm sorry that that happened.
Speaker 4 (32:10):
No, No, it's part of it's part of being a Jew,
is what I always telling myself.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
But the rule that I've kept since I downloaded Twitter,
like a year ago, a year and a couple of.
Speaker 4 (32:21):
Months ago, and the rule that I kept since I
downloaded it is I don't care what's popular. I'm gonna
post what's right, no matter what, and I don't care
who who doesn't need to hear it. I don't care
who it defends. If it's correct, if it's the just way,
if it's morally consistent, if it's logically consistent, and I'm
gonna post it, and you can't cancel me, because that
(32:44):
all I'm doing is following the truth. I have one rule,
and it's don't be an asshole. What I mean by
that is there's certain things that people do. They go
out of their way to offend people, and I just
don't engage with that.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
There's just no reason to do that.
Speaker 4 (32:58):
And so since downloading X, despite all the death threats,
if you go to my comments, you'll see photos of Hitler,
You'll see people telling you to get back in the
gas chamber, which I'm sure you get. Similarly, the amount
of DMS I've gotten from people, whether they be famous
actors and actresses, whether they be members of Congress, whether
they be just huge writers like massive substacks, or professional
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athletes just dming me and just being like, I really
appreciate what you're doing and putting your name and voice
out there. And that's what I've realized most is that online,
and I think people say this but they don't actually
internalize it, online is not in real life. There's no
connection between what's happening online and what's happening in real life.
(33:45):
And so when I've paid attention to more than getting
ratioed by the world's biggest anti SEMISU clearly are boosted
Buch is just.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
My follower account.
Speaker 4 (33:54):
The fact that I've been able to go from zero
followers on X to one hundred and I think seventy
thousand follows or is on acts within a year timeframe
means not enough people agree with what I'm saying. And
that's different because you can't get that's on Those aren't
made up numbers. In terms of followers. What is made
up is the likes that you got. What is made
(34:15):
up is the comments on your thing. But if what
I've told myself is that if my account consistently can grow,
that means that there's enough people out there who still
have moral clarity on a bunch of issues. And that
doesn't mean they have to agree with me on everything.
It just means that they find that my content. Number
one is morally consistent, that I'm not scared to post
(34:37):
what I think. And number three, and most importantly, is
it's truthful.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
Yeah, I got to tell you. I told this when
I met you.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
You're such a special young man and I really hope
you're aware of that, and I'm sure your parents couldn't
be thank you so much prouder of you. I mean you,
you know, like I said, you're twenty three years old.
I'm fifty five years old. You really inspire me, and
you know, I just love hearing you talk your point
of view, and you know, so many conversations that I
have with people my age, you know, is about the
(35:09):
youth and the younger people, and you're one of the
people who make me feel like, you know, Jews are
going to be okay. And I really hope you continue
to you know, grow, be passionate, be fearless, and also
share with the younger people behind you, because I think,
you know, I'm an older, you know guy, not that
fucking old, but you know, I think you can really
(35:30):
you know, inspire and you know, invigorate and educate and
also you know, make people feel proud to be Jewish
in a time where we're unprecedented times. So I really
mean that the final thing I want to ask you,
and it's been so upsetting amongst the fact that as
of the recording of this podcast, obviously there are still
(35:51):
fifty hostages in captivity. We are almost at shockingly two
years since October seventh, and there's two Americans, and like
I said, fifty hostages, and every single thing that's gone
on you know, with Israel and Iran and you know
the Beepers. I mean, it's been just one thing after
another after another and the highs, lows, thrills, agony, all
(36:15):
of it. In this past about week now, the Druze
people of Syria have been brutalized and you have been
posting a lot about it. Can you explain and articulate
what has been happening to the Drews people in Syria
over the last week.
Speaker 4 (36:33):
I guess I'll provide contacts for us in a little
bit of the history. So, the Drums are an offshoot
of Sunni Islam. They practice a slightly different religion. I
don't think that they would consider themselves Muslims, but it's
a different religion. It's an offshoot. It came from Sunni Islam.
And there's about a million Drus in the world. Most
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of them live in northern Israel and the go on
in southern Syria. And they've been there for I mean generations.
The Drews go way back, and the Drews in their
religion have and this will be important when I explained
they have a tenant in their religion, which whoever, whichever
(37:18):
kingdom or ruler or country they resigne in, they pledge
ultimate allegiance to that ruler, no matter who it is,
whether it be Jewish, Christian, Muslim, it doesn't matter. So
after the fall of Asad, al Shara became Ahman al
shar As the current president of Syria or al Jalani
became president, and a lot of the factions which Asad.
(37:42):
People think that Asad quelled the internal strife within Syria
because there's so many different ethnic groups, from the Drus
to the Kurds, to the Alo Whites, to the Shias
to the Sunnis. Assad didn't just wave a magic wand
and everyone was just at peace. Asad slaughtered half a
million people, so it wasn't that he kept the peace.
(38:02):
He just slaughtered more people less so that less people
would die, which ultimately resulted in more people dying. If
that makes sense, it doesn't because it's the Middle East
and nothing makes sense. And so after the fall of Asad,
these Drus were repeatedly pulled over while driving and Bedouin
and Islamists would stop them and literally just beat them,
(38:27):
like beat them.
Speaker 3 (38:28):
Unconscious, I mean, horrible stuff. And this has been going
on for months.
Speaker 4 (38:32):
And so finally the Dru said, the Druz militia said
this is enough and and retaliated against one of these
Bedouin tribes that perpetrated these these crimes. And ever since then,
starting around five days ago, you've had literal convoys of
massed armed Gihattis roaming the town of Swedia, which is
(38:52):
the biggest Druze town in southern Syria. And I mean,
you're butchering people, and the most growth I mean isis style,
will beheadings, forcing people to jump off roobs, reports of rape.
There's been apparently over two hundred women and children that
have been kidnapped in the past four days. So I mean,
I mean really just disgusting, depraves things that that are happening.
(39:17):
And so Israel got a lot of condemnation for striking
the Syrian military headquarters. And the reason that they did
this is these in the first couple of days, it
was Syrian military personnel that were doing most of the butchery.
Speaker 3 (39:33):
It was all Jelani.
Speaker 4 (39:34):
It was Al Sharha's men that did this, and Israel
warned them multiple times for all Jelani to call them off,
and they did it. And the reason there's a lot
of debate right now whether Israel should have done that,
whether it's too far, but the reason that Israel did
it most likely is because the Druids, when they were
the older generation, was born in Syria when it was
(39:57):
occupied by Syria, and so they have more allegiance to
the Syrian government.
Speaker 3 (40:03):
Than they do with the Israeli government.
Speaker 4 (40:05):
But anyone born post sixty seven, once Israel took it,
has extreme allegiance to the State of Israel. And Drews
joined the IDF in record numbers. Every single day, more
and more are being drafted into the IDF, and so
the IDF has you know, you know, Israel's a democracy
that respects all walks of life, whether they be Jewish,
(40:28):
behind Muslim.
Speaker 3 (40:29):
Christian, or Dru's.
Speaker 4 (40:31):
And part of that is I mean there's literally a
fence that separates the Majdal Shans, which is the biggest
Drew city in Israel, where that has black rocket killed
children playing soccer. I mean, I stood at that fence.
It's literally a barbed wire fence. On the other side
is where they're literal. I mean, I was thinking to
(40:51):
a Drew's man who pointed to his to a house
on the hill, and I was like, what are you
pointing at? And he told me that's my home and
I was like, what do you mean? He's like, that's
my home. I just haven't been able to go back
because now there's this sense here he goes my brother
lives in that house right there. I haven't seen him
since the annexation of the go on, and so there
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was a lot of drus. I mean, thousands of them
actually storm the border into Syria to be with their drews,
brothers and sisters to help them fight against these jihadists
that were just butchering people in the streets and recording
it all. So I guess that's a drawn out answer
of where we are right now. And sense your question
in terms of pro Palestinians and the silence that we see,
(41:36):
I think they've all exposed themselves that they don't give
a shit about human rights. They don't care about women
and children being killed. They just care about hating Israel.
I mean, day after day we're seeing literal I mean,
what's funny to me, Funny in a more perverse sense
is the amount of lies that I've seen on Twitter
and just other social media accounts then perpetuated.
Speaker 3 (41:57):
Just think about the number of.
Speaker 4 (41:58):
Articles October seventh that have gotten a community note by CNN, BBC,
Sky News, all.
Speaker 3 (42:06):
These other media outlets that have just blatantly lied.
Speaker 4 (42:10):
I mean the Al Ali hospital bombing back in October
of twenty twenty three, where it's in islamichi hot rocket
that hit the hospital parking lot and killed a dozen people,
not five hundred, but they blamed Israel for bombing the
hospital and killing five. And just think about the number
of lives that have been perpetuated by the online discourse
by the media.
Speaker 3 (42:30):
If you go on the New York Times website right
now and.
Speaker 4 (42:33):
Look up Drews, I look at the most recent article
is from two days ago, and it describes them the
butchering of innocent Druis and Christians as sectarian upheaval. I mean,
if you go to CNN, you won't see anything. If
you go to the BBC, you won't see anything. If
you go to Stay News, you won't see anything. If
you go to any of these these losers, these towers,
Meddi Hassan, chenk wig Er, Francesc Albani's Breanna Taylor, I mean,
(42:55):
all these people who've pushed that there's some sort of
humanitarians that have literally yat said a single word about
video after video of women and children being beheaded, raped,
and it's all on video, it's all true. Unlike some
of these lies that have been perpetrated, that have been pushed,
they get hundreds of thousands of likes with zero, zero
(43:16):
fact or reality based beyond them either. And so I
think all these people expose themselves. And maybe you're not
seeing it online, but I think it's being translated to
the average person because anyone in the right state of
mind with any sort of moral clarity knows that they're
silence exposes that they don't care at all about human rights.
They care about defending Islamism is entirest organizations.
Speaker 1 (43:40):
I agree with everything you said.
Speaker 2 (43:42):
I appreciate everything you said, and again I think you're
fucking awesome man, and I appreciate you coming on the podcast,
and you know, I'm so glad I got to meet you,
and I just, you know, wish you nothing but the
best going forward with everything you're doing in your young life,
and keep kick ass, keep being a voice, keeping tenacious,
(44:03):
keep you know, stuffing your brain with facts and history
and all that stuff and sharing it because you're really,
really good at it, and like I said, you inspire me,
and hopefully you're getting a chance to inspire other people.
I'm sure you are, so I appreciate it, y'all to
come on the other podcast.
Speaker 4 (44:18):
I appreciate you, and I appreciate you being one of
the it's caught the few voices in Hollywood with any
sort of voice and moral clarity and not caring about yeah,
the haters, the comments, anything anything else. And I think
the abs what's most important. I think if history has
shown us anything is that.
Speaker 3 (44:38):
The good guys always win.
Speaker 4 (44:40):
I'm very bullish on the future of Jews, even though
there's a bunch of hatred right now. If history has
taught us anything it's that we know in a hundred
years from now, we're still going to be on this planet,
and history is going to judge those who were silent
more than they'll judge those who who were actually perpetrating
the anti Semitism.
Speaker 3 (44:59):
And I think that's and the story of the entire history.
Speaker 4 (45:02):
I look down more upon those who didn't speak out
against the Nazis that I do the Nazis themselves, because
the people who didn't speak out just.
Speaker 3 (45:09):
Watch what happened, like cowards.
Speaker 4 (45:12):
And so I think similarly today there's a lot of
cowards that I need to start speaking up and they
know it too.
Speaker 2 (45:18):
Yah Yah Kobe twenty three years old with the voice
of a grown ass man.
Speaker 1 (45:22):
I'm going to share your social media so people.
Speaker 2 (45:25):
Could follow, get inspired by you, and have a great summer,
and I'll talk to you soon.
Speaker 3 (45:30):
All right, thank you so much, Michael, great seeing.
Speaker 1 (45:34):
I'm done.
Speaker 2 (45:35):
I want to thank you y'all for joining me on
the Iron Report Stereo podcast one more time. Make sure
you follow him at Ya Kobe on Twitter and on Instagram,
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Speaker 2 (00:13):
Bigdy Boom, have no fear of the im or Rappaport
Stereo podcast is here. Welcome to the Iron Dome of Disruption.
Welcome to the Zygity Zone of Disruption. I love this episode.
I love this episode. I got a young man, twenty
three year old young man named Eyal Jakobe, who I
met on social media. You're like, what you met a
(00:34):
twenty three year old young man on social media? Yes,
this kid is a U Penn graduate. He has been
witnessing firsthand all the craziness, the kookiness, the discussions in
real time and real life, all the anti Jewish, all
the anti Semitism that went on at the University of Pennsylvania.
He shared his story. He's actually litigating right now against
(00:58):
U Penn.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
He's twenty five.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Three years old, he's got the voice of a fifty
five year old newscaster. He's smart, he's brilliant, he's passionate,
and I gotta say he's super duper inspiring. I love
this episode. I'm proud of this episode. Let's get right
to it. I got y'all ya Kobe, who you don't know,
but you're gonna know and you're gonna love This episode
on the I Am rap Ports Stereo podcast coming up
(01:20):
right now. Miles Jordan aka the Bleach Brothers aka the
Dust Brothers. Start this episode with something real nice. Start
this episode with something real love, but most spartly, start
this episode with something real fun. I Am Rapaport Stereo Podcast.
Let's go baby, Iron Rapports Stereo Podcast is here. As
I mentioned, I have a guest somebody who I met online,
(01:43):
which always sounds weird, but in this day and age,
especially with the Jewish community, I've met incredible people that
I now even consider friends online and this young man
is somebody that has inspired me and I know has
inspired a lot of people. And his story and his
information that he shares on social media, particularly on Twitter,
(02:06):
is a must. He's a must fall So, like I
mentioned earlier, I want to introduce ey' Al Yah Kobe
two the I Am Rappaport Stereo Podcast.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
How are you my friend?
Speaker 3 (02:16):
Good? Thank you so much for having me on.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
I appreciate you coming on. So let's just get into it.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
I believe I first heard your story read about your
story because of everything that was going on your last
year year and a half at u Penn. Obviously there's
been so much discussion congressional hearings, but you were one
of the kids who was at UPEN post October seventh
(02:46):
and dealing with the anti Jewishness, anti Semitism, anti Zionist,
the bullying, and you witnessed it firsthand and you know
took it, you know, all the way through. So can
you just share your story and your experience.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
Is definitely I describe myself as an accidental activist, as
someone who prior to October seventh, I had, you know,
my personal Instagram, my personal Snapchat, nothing public whatsoever. And actually,
pre dating October seventh that UPenn, we had something called
the Palestine Writes Literature Festival, hosted by a woman who
(03:23):
goes by the name of Susan Abuhalla, who today when
we sounded the alarms, we were gasoling to being told
this is just to celebrate policy and culture. This is
you know, nothing to do with politics whatsoever. And I
started speaking up because the list of speakers was an
(03:44):
entire menu of the world's biggest anti Semites, ranging from
people like Roger Waters to people like like Norah Rikott and.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
The executive director today sits beyond zoom.
Speaker 4 (03:57):
Whereas I have rational framings and Martin Luther King quote
behind me, she has the PFLP flag behind her. And
so I started speaking out about that. And in the
same period of this, the week of the Palais Gondwright's
literature festival, the Hillo was broken into by a student
yelling fuck the Jews and flipping over tables. The Khabadsuka
(04:21):
was vandalized. Jews Are Nazis was written adjacent to Penn's
Jewish Return in the House. And so if you just
cherry picked one incident, then you could say this is,
you know, a one off. There's gonna be biggots in
the world. But when you have three different, clearly anti
Semitic events in the span of one week along with
(04:42):
this festival, it proves to be a little bit more systemic.
So one October seventh hit, I'd assumed that day with alumni, parents,
administrators to talk about the ensuing anti semitism that was
on campus at ABVI. That zoom meeting was canceled because
I woke up to a completely different reality than the
(05:06):
day before. So that's how I started getting into it
and now I'm here wait.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Oh, so coincidentally, you had a Zoom meeting set up
on October seventh, obviously before everything had went down.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
That was just a coincidence.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
I mean, we were having Zoom meetings pretty much every
single day since the event that hill.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
There was sorry a fourth incident. There was a.
Speaker 4 (05:30):
Swastika drawn inside one of the campus buildings, this massive
red swastika, and so we were having meetings every day.
And on October seventh, we were supposed to have a
meeting to continue a conversation, and obviously it was canceled
because there was other things going on.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
That's I didn't realize that there was so much that
you guys were dealing with and concerned about pre October seventh,
twenty twenty three. So afterwards, after October seven, how did
the experience of being a student a you Pen ramp up?
Speaker 1 (06:06):
How did it change?
Speaker 2 (06:08):
And walk me through everything that you were experiencing in
those first few days, weeks, months, and consequently, you know,
throughout your time at you Pen.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
I would say the way that I described the current
situation on college campuses in America, on the Petrie dishes
and they have bacteria whatever, you want to call them
in the Petri dish, and that bacteria just multiplied post
October seven.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
But the bacteria has always been there.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
There's always been the same professors, there's been the same
administrators who have zero moral clarity, who have no backbone.
There's the same cowards on campus that refuse to speak
up and just be bystanders.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
And so what.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
Happened was on October seventh, rather than sunlight, which should
have killed the bacteria in the petriot dish, it was
this darkness that set up that allowed it to multiply.
So in October eighth, there was all about ten minutes
from UPenn's campus, which is partially organized by students and professors,
where one of the main speakers at the rally said,
(07:09):
I salute Camas for a job well done. I don't
care about innocent civilians. There are non in Israel. And
the entire crowd erupted in applause and cheers at this speaker.
And so it's not just one rogue speaker, it's the
entire crowd of five hundred people in the middle of
the day that are celebrating the massacre. And so I
(07:29):
penned I've written an article a couple of weeks back
during the mess of the swastika and the Hillel and
Lahammad and the festival prior to October seventh, talking about
how the first article I've ever written in my life
talking about how Penn is you know, the nickname of
Penn is jew Penn or the University of Pennsylvania, and
(07:52):
how this anti Semitism on campus is just an untenable situation.
So I pended an article on October eleventh called Penn
Set and Chance, talking about at a university has now
another opportunity to condemn antisemitism, condemn the slaughter of innocent
civilians in Israel, And instead what we got was four
separate statements by the former president, Liz McGill, because each
(08:16):
one was more cowardly empathetic than the last. And so
Penn continued to prove that it had not found it
it's moral backbone. It's not found that any backbone for
that matter, to speak with moral clarity. And then in
December I was invited by the House Workforce and Education
Committee to come speak at the Republican Leadership Press Conference
(08:38):
prior to the three college presidents from Columbia not Columbia Harvard,
m I T and U Penn. So I was invited
to speak alongside Speaker Johnson elist Stephonic and that video
went viral. And then since since that moment, which I
was not expecting, as well as talked about it being
an accidental activists, in my mind, I was just thinking,
(08:59):
this is so cool. I'm going to meet the Speaker
of the House. I'm going to be in Congress. I'm
going to be in Washington, d C. And luckily that
video went viral. I did a bunch of media interviews,
kept speaking out, and then the opportunity to testify again
before the House Judiciary Committee to talk about certain attorney
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generals in highly liberal cities like New York City, like
Philadelphia where we have Larry Krasner in Filly and I
don't even want to say the name of the Attorney
general in New York City to give any credence or
respect to them, and talk about how they're failing to
prosecute the people who are taking over buildings, failing to
prosecute people who are assaulting their fellow classmates. And then
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after that hearing, I downloaded X. I made a public
Instagram account and that's how I've managed to stay vocal
since graduating.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Were you at the hearings when a last defonik was
taking on the presidents? Were you there so because you
must have been before. I know, I just asked you
a question. I'm interrupting. I'm sorry because for me, first
of all, it is the first time I really heard
at least the phonic speak I was talking about elated.
(10:15):
I was so moved by the tenacity and genuine passion
which she showed. And of course this is the context, context, context,
you know, that's really the number one iconic thing from
those hearings. But I like, I feel like if I
met at least the phonic I would I would cry
(10:35):
because it was like she stood up so strongly and
so genuinely, especially for somebody in government. I always feel
like they're all so full of crap, but like her
passion was so real and she's not even Jewish, and
it was just like, this is just somebody who's standing
because it's so obvious what's going on. And her response
and the way she was questioning was was in that
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tone like it's so obvious, like are you gonna sit here,
lie to me and lie to the world about what
we've all seen and what we've all witnessed right in
front of my face, and I'm going to give you
another chance to answer it, and they just couldn't get
it right. And that's why I just was so impressed
by her. So sorry to ask you a question to
cut you off, but I just wanted to because it
must have been a lot to you to see that
happening under present.
Speaker 4 (11:19):
I don't know, and you're spot on, and I've had
the honor of meeting alis Staphonic tens of times at
this point, and what you saw in that video is
what you get from Alistaphonic. She has complete moral clarity,
and it's not only impressive, but like you said, touching
how much he cares about the Jewish community despite not
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not being Jewish, and showing a lot more moral fortitude
and passion with combat anti Semitism more than a lot
of Junes that I've that I've met. But to your
point on whether I was there or not, so I
the way that the committee room works is that there's
two kind of waiting areas for the congress people their
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staff in the back, and after about an hour of
listening to the hearing, I wanted to just hang out
in the side room on like a comfy couch and
just watch it from there. And thank god I did,
because my face was literally right behind Claudine Gay when
she was asked to calling for the genocide of Jews
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violet the code of conduct, and my jaw dropped, literally
dropped hearing not only the inability to say obviously violates
a code of conduct, but the smirk and sort of
arrogance of her answer as well. And so I would
have become an instant viral meme with my facial expression
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had I been still in that hearing room. But actually,
a fun fact is that stefanic vant of questioning wasn't
just calling for the genocide of Jews, violet the code
of conduct, and that.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
Being the gotcha moment that went viral.
Speaker 4 (12:57):
The gotcha moment was she was expecting them all to say, yes,
obviously it violates a code of conduct, like why would
you even ask that question? And for her to say, okay, well,
then if it does, why aren't you doing anything about it?
Because here are statements from professors, students, administrators that clearly
do call for the genocide of Jews, and so it's
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crazy that and a lot of people don't know this
is that that wasn't even supposed to be got your question.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
I was supposed to lay.
Speaker 4 (13:23):
Up followed by what was supposed to be the gotcha question.
And it's just I mean, two of them lost their
jobs for it.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
So yeah, it was a crazy, crazy thing to witness.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
You went on to take on your university. Correct, Yes, we're.
Speaker 4 (13:56):
Still in active litigation with the university.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
What can you talk about in regards to taking on
is it just you like, I know sometimes when if
you're still involved with, you know, litigation in lawsuits. I've
had one or two in the past. I know that
you know, you're not allowed to talk about it much.
What can you share? What can you talk about your case?
Your suit against you pen.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
So I made the decision too.
Speaker 4 (14:23):
I was actually I was fairly hesitant to sue the
University of UPenn. I say this proudly as a school
that I personally love, the Institution of UPenn. My grandfather attended,
my mom attended, my brother attended. I hope my kids attend.
And so I'm like, I wasn't an activist. I'm not
planning into going into activism, planning to going to finance
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and suing your university is not always the best thing,
so I was very hesitant about it. And then in
I want to say November of twenty twenty three, So
to preface this is I had had a call with
the head of public Safety through the hill L break
in after the command incident, after the Swastik incident.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
Because at Penn, being in West Philadelphia.
Speaker 4 (15:07):
It's not the nicest neighborhood and so if someone, let's say,
gets mugged ten blocks away, the entire campus gets an
alert on their phone to just avoid the area. And
I was very frustrated with the university, sigifically with public
safety that when the hillel is being broken into and
people are only sucked the jews while flipping over tables,
that there was no pen alert that was sent. The
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information was it's still to this day we don't actually
know exactly what transpired, but the information was never even
divulged from the university in the first place. And so
they came back to me, they're like, you know, you're right,
we should have in the like Hopefully an incident like
this never happens again, but if it does, we'll change
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our policies accordingly.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
Great like thought everything was good.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
And then I was eating in Hillel, eating lunch in
Hillel in November, and I noticed the.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
SWAT unit bomb sniffing dogs.
Speaker 4 (16:03):
That were in the Hillel cafeteria and there was about
three hundred people in the Hillo and I go up
to one of the police officers. I'm like, Hey, what's
going on right now? And they say that there's an
active bomb threat in the Hillo. And I was petrified
that the university knowing that there's a bomb threat, that
now we know the bomb threat was made at around
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seven am. The email to the school, to the student body,
to the professors that there was an active bomb threat
against Hillo wasn't.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
Made until seven pm that night meeting.
Speaker 4 (16:38):
For twelve hours, people were inside the Hillo and it
was clearly credible enough to the point where they had
the SWAT unit actively sweeping the building for any bombs,
and yet they never shared the information. And so it
was that day that I decided that there's no saving
Pen Internally. It's a systemic issue of rot that needs
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to needs to be taken care of from a court
dictating to Pen the actions that they must take to
protect not just their Jewish students, but all students on campus, and.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
So now in active litigation.
Speaker 4 (17:14):
There's two other name plaintiffs and several other unnamed plaintiffs
as well.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Wow, so you said before this your your family went
to you Pen, your mother went to you Pen, and
you hope your kids go to you Pen.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
I'm surprised you still feel.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
That way after what your experience, or do you hope
that you Pen improves and changes or like you know,
I'm surprised that you say that you don't have like resentment,
Like fuck this place.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
I don't want anything to do with that. Why would
I send my kids here?
Speaker 3 (17:43):
I feel that because the school needs to change.
Speaker 4 (17:46):
My kids when they apply of college will probably be
in twenty five years from now.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
So I give myself to I got it. I got
it to reform, to reform the school.
Speaker 4 (17:54):
But the way that I think about it is that
it's simply an untenable.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
Situation that's happening right now.
Speaker 4 (18:00):
You have professors internally that are so frustrated by the
school not focusing on education, prioritizing this Marxist in doctrination
that idolizes terrorism and jihadism and Marxism and communism. And
not just focusing on the basics of what an education
is meant to be. You have an alumni class that
is outraged that their donations to the schools have been
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dedicated creating never ending bureaucracy to creating these DEI centers
that do nothing other than promote exclusion. And so the
reason that I'm very confident the school will restore its
values is because there's no other option. Either Pen Columbia, Harvard,
the rest of them just shut down or just become
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completely irrelevant, or they take the necessary actions. And I
personally believe that there's enough people that have their head
screwed on right to the point where these schools will
take the necessary actions that are needed true prioritize an
American education that promotes the values of Western civilization rather
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than Stalin and Akamandinajad and the Ayatola.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Speaking of market Marxist you're in New Yorker, right, Yes,
I have been talking.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
All of us are talking.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
New Yorkers are talking of all face denomination of racist,
crazy and color. What is your take on the mayoral
race coming up with zoron the moron Eric Adams, Curtis Sliwa,
and Cuomo, if you were a betting.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
Man, I know you're in finance.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
And although like I said, e'all is only twenty three,
even though he's got the voice of like a sixty
five year old man, like you should be in radio, man,
you should be doing you know, you should be doing
voiceover shit. You got some you should be doing like
you know, like sprite commercials or like you know, like
you know, bad breath commercials like try you know, listerine,
it'll make your breath smell smell fresh and voice sound
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like mine.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
Based on everything we know today.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
In coming in the last few days of July, who
is going to win the election to become mayor of
New York City in November?
Speaker 4 (20:13):
Currently Zorron Mamdana is gonna be the mayor in come
the election at Isle. Every Paul has proven this because
for some reason, Adam's, Cuomo and Sliwa think that it's
proven in any way, shape or form for them to
split the vote of people with just an iota of
common sense In terms of the three and who I've
(20:37):
met with Andrew Kuomo, I've met with Irak Adams, I've
never met Siwa. But what I do know about sleewa
is that he's run for mayor three times and never
passed the thirty percent threshold. He has zero, literally zero
chance of winning, and him staying in this mayorial race
proves one thing that he cares more about his followers
online about his own stature in society than he does
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every day in the orcers who actually need someone that's
not a full on Marxist to run this city. And
so I think he would gain a lot more respect
by dropping out. People would have much more respect for him,
and if anything, you'd have a much higher chance to
run again in four years with people having the knowledge
that he put New Yorkers over his own.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
Gain and benefit.
Speaker 4 (21:23):
And so I think, you know, Slee one needs to
drop out the zero chance that he wins. And this
isn't me ripping into him or thinking that he's a
bad politician and that his policies are bad.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
It's simply looking at the fact that.
Speaker 4 (21:36):
He's run three times and lost badly every single time.
In terms of Cuomo and Adams, they both have their
respective issues, but I think Adams gets a lot of
slack for certain scandals that he's had. But at the
end of the day, New York City has been doing
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well under Eric Adams. I mean, we just came out
of the Blasio ruined the city and it doesn't.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
In four years. You can't just solve all the problems
of New York City.
Speaker 4 (22:05):
And to be fair, I think Eric Adams, I don't
think he's done anything monumental to help the city or
fix the city.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
But has he done anything to make it worse?
Speaker 4 (22:12):
No, And I'd rather have someone that doesn't make the
city worse than Zoron Mumdani, who, by every metric possible
unless you live in an alternative universe where free everything works,
it's just not going to do anything to help the city.
And my biggest palm with his whole Mamdani craze is
this notion that he's sticking it to the elites, that
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he's the man of the working class. When you look
at poll after pols who actually voted for Zoron, it
was the college educated, white, rich liberals that voted for
He is supported by the elites.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
The elites are voting for him.
Speaker 4 (22:49):
It was the black and brown communities, it was the
LATINX communities, it was the lower the lower class communities
that voted overwhelmingly for Andrew Cmo, because what do those
communities know? What are they product is predicated on individualism,
on merit, on earning what you have, not perpetually just
taking more and more from the working man and redistributing it,
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which will never work ever and has been proven ever
to work. And so there needs to be some sort
of reorganization in messaging and framing and exposing that Zolon
isn't a man of the working people. He's a man
of the college educated white elite that feels somehow guilty
that they're rich. And so rather than just donating it
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to charities, which is what any common sense person does,
they want the government to tell them to give up
their money. And a lot of people don't want that
to happen, specifically immigrants who need to make money to
provide for their family to lower class communities can't afford
just money being taken out of their paycheck to be redistributed.
(23:51):
And so I think it's you know, I think it's
a scary time for New York City, and I hope
that Guomo, Adams and Sliwa the the humility for two
of them to drop out prior to you know, let's
say a month and a half outside of the actual election.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
Then the way you talk, man, you might have to
run for May when you're old enough.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
I agree with every single thing you said.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
You said it in a way more eloquent way than
I talk about it, because it's so crazy to me,
and it's so frustrating, and it's.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
So surreal to me.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
And my wife told me the other day, you keep
asking everybody who do you think is going to win?
And everybody keeps telling you that Zora on the Moron
as of right now, is going to win.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
Why do you keep asking?
Speaker 2 (24:57):
Because I am so baffled that we're even in a
point where somebody like that could be in the game.
You know that it's even like a question, and it
would hurt me in my heart. I'm never gonna leave.
I'm never one of these like I'm gonna leave New York.
I'm not letting this guy run me out of New York.
And I really encourage a lot of other New Yorkers
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if this does happen, do not leave New York. This
person cannot run true New Yorkers out of New York.
It would just be an embarrassment to me. It would
be an embarrassment to me. It's already embarrassment that he's
he's in contention, but I guess I have to start preparing.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
For the worst.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
I want to talk about you on Twitter because you
are I believe we met on Twitter.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
I know we physically met in Israel. The first time was.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
In in Israel, in Israel, Yeah, and.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
We had spoken on Twitter and all that stuff. But
your your Twitter account and it's at el Yakobe y Akob.
Why if my listeners aren't following, you should absolutely follow
You're so active, so thorough, so much information.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
What's been the craziest thing that's happened on Twitter?
Speaker 2 (26:11):
Aside from meeting of course Michael Rappaport, which I know
you just like can't even believe that that happened. But
what's been like the sort of craziest thing, the craziest
retweet people that have reached out for you. And I'm assuming,
like any great Jew on Twitter, you're now at the
level where you're getting death threats in the DMS, which
congratulations and kudos Mazeltov on that, because if you're not
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getting death threats in the DMS, you're really not doing
it right.
Speaker 4 (26:36):
X is like a whole other beast. In my opinion,
I think the app is dying severely. I mean, there's
been report after report that Russian and Iranian boxed hundreds
of thousands of them thus flooded xers. A report by
the Telegraph last week that they tried one hundred and
forty thousand accounts that we're pushing for Scottish intendance in
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on x and as soon as the war between Israel
and Iran broke out, all these accounts just suddenly vanished,
meaning they were Ronni and bots that were actively trying
to sow division within the UK. You have similarly reports
by the Washington Posts, the New York Post, the Wall
Street Journal, all saying that Islamist accounts and Russian accounts
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are intentionally trying to drive MAGA a wedgend MAGA and collasses.
And this isn't something that's coincidental by any means. It's
very much intentional. It's very brilliant when you think about it.
Is it totally have constant accounts pushing disinformation about any
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topic on like in the world. If you could have
the comment section of each post just ripping on the
United States, just constantly pushing the exact same messaging.
Speaker 3 (27:59):
Over and over again.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
Whether or not you know the average person believes it
is not important. What it does is it creates the
psychology terms called the collective illusion, where you owe what
people get. Endorphemines, she means happiness when we feel like
we're in the majority, when our friend group is the biggest,
when we invite people to our birthday party and so
many more people show.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
Up than the other guy. And this is just a
human trait that we have.
Speaker 4 (28:25):
And so when you put this on social media, and
social media is filled with filth ranging from the United
States is the Great Satan to Israel is the Devil
and everything in between. It creates this collective illusion where
the average person sees a post of this morning, I
saw a post that N'tagne who said in nineteen seventy
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that he can't wait to squeeze dry America, and then
tick it to the courtage just a complete lie that
Nathaniel has never said to post out thirteen thousand likes.
So even if your average person knows the down that
it's not true, there's always going to be that that
grain of doubt in their mind of oh wait, did
Nita I will actually say that, And that's the entire
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It's all about demoralizing individuals to break down everything they've
conceived before their common sense. And it's a Soviet tactic
and it's working incredibly on social media, specifically on access.
There's free speech one hundred percent, one person, one account.
It can't be one government one million accounts. And I
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have two simple solutions that I don't understand why Musk
doesn't adopt. Number one, if you have a blue check
mark on ACX, it's a requirement that you have the
country that you're posting from. Because I don't know if
you saw this, but there was this one account called
the red Pill Media that posted I'm an American, I
was born in Razion, not dying for Israel. That guy
was based in Karachi, Pakistan, zero zero relationship to that
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and States of Americas.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
So number one, you have.
Speaker 4 (30:00):
To put your country location if you have a blue
check mark on X. And the other one is banning
accounts from countries where the government doesn't allow the people
to have social media. So for instance, the Chinese government,
we know for a fact has done it, but a
Chinese citizen can't even access Twitter. So where are these
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accounts coming from they have to be the CCP that
is running these accounts, and so that's one sided warfare
that we have right now is that these Chinese boughts
are polluting American minds to think that China is somehow
superior to America.
Speaker 3 (30:38):
But we can't have.
Speaker 4 (30:39):
Americans showing the Chinese people that's free speech, democracy, being
able to go to a grocery store and actually enough
groceries on the shelf, not having a social credit system
where you're not allowed to even take a train if
your social credit scores TOOLA, all these things and until
one sided warfare.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
And so that's the other solution.
Speaker 4 (30:59):
And then any country which doesn't allow it's citizens on
social media platform, that county should just be black from
the social media platform itself.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
I think those are great, great ideas, and I think
there could even be more, but I think that those
are simple asks to make it just kind of have
some respect and dignity. And then specifically, again aside from me,
Michael Rapper, reaching out to who are some of the
other people you've met, the retweets and the sort of
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conversations that you've had positive on your time, your new
time as an activist on X without.
Speaker 4 (31:39):
Saying any names that I don't want to expose anyone.
And you'll understand why is like you said, I probably
get one hundred death threats each day, to the point
where one death threat was literally a photo of my mom,
not where I live, where my family lives, a photo
of the front door of it, to the point where
I had to pay for products to sit outside, which
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is still there to make sure that this lunatic doesn't
actually come to my family's home.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
And I'm sorry that that happened.
Speaker 4 (32:10):
No, No, it's part of it's part of being a Jew,
is what I always telling myself.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
But the rule that I've kept since I downloaded Twitter,
like a year ago, a year and a couple of.
Speaker 4 (32:21):
Months ago, and the rule that I kept since I
downloaded it is I don't care what's popular. I'm gonna
post what's right, no matter what, and I don't care
who who doesn't need to hear it. I don't care
who it defends. If it's correct, if it's the just way,
if it's morally consistent, if it's logically consistent, and I'm
gonna post it, and you can't cancel me, because that
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all I'm doing is following the truth. I have one rule,
and it's don't be an asshole. What I mean by
that is there's certain things that people do. They go
out of their way to offend people, and I just
don't engage with that.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
There's just no reason to do that.
Speaker 4 (32:58):
And so since downloading X, despite all the death threats,
if you go to my comments, you'll see photos of Hitler,
You'll see people telling you to get back in the
gas chamber, which I'm sure you get. Similarly, the amount
of DMS I've gotten from people, whether they be famous
actors and actresses, whether they be members of Congress, whether
they be just huge writers like massive substacks, or professional
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athletes just dming me and just being like, I really
appreciate what you're doing and putting your name and voice
out there. And that's what I've realized most is that online,
and I think people say this but they don't actually
internalize it, online is not in real life. There's no
connection between what's happening online and what's happening in real life.
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And so when I've paid attention to more than getting
ratioed by the world's biggest anti SEMISU clearly are boosted
Buch is just.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
My follower account.
Speaker 4 (33:54):
The fact that I've been able to go from zero
followers on X to one hundred and I think seventy
thousand follows or is on acts within a year timeframe
means not enough people agree with what I'm saying. And
that's different because you can't get that's on Those aren't
made up numbers. In terms of followers. What is made
up is the likes that you got. What is made
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up is the comments on your thing. But if what
I've told myself is that if my account consistently can grow,
that means that there's enough people out there who still
have moral clarity on a bunch of issues. And that
doesn't mean they have to agree with me on everything.
It just means that they find that my content. Number
one is morally consistent, that I'm not scared to post
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what I think. And number three, and most importantly, is
it's truthful.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
Yeah, I got to tell you. I told this when
I met you.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
You're such a special young man and I really hope
you're aware of that, and I'm sure your parents couldn't
be thank you so much prouder of you. I mean you,
you know, like I said, you're twenty three years old.
I'm fifty five years old. You really inspire me, and
you know, I just love hearing you talk your point
of view, and you know, so many conversations that I
have with people my age, you know, is about the
(35:09):
youth and the younger people, and you're one of the
people who make me feel like, you know, Jews are
going to be okay. And I really hope you continue
to you know, grow, be passionate, be fearless, and also
share with the younger people behind you, because I think,
you know, I'm an older, you know guy, not that
fucking old, but you know, I think you can really
(35:30):
you know, inspire and you know, invigorate and educate and
also you know, make people feel proud to be Jewish
in a time where we're unprecedented times. So I really
mean that the final thing I want to ask you,
and it's been so upsetting amongst the fact that as
of the recording of this podcast, obviously there are still
(35:51):
fifty hostages in captivity. We are almost at shockingly two
years since October seventh, and there's two Americans, and like
I said, fifty hostages, and every single thing that's gone
on you know, with Israel and Iran and you know
the Beepers. I mean, it's been just one thing after
another after another and the highs, lows, thrills, agony, all
(36:15):
of it. In this past about week now, the Druze
people of Syria have been brutalized and you have been
posting a lot about it. Can you explain and articulate
what has been happening to the Drews people in Syria
over the last week.
Speaker 4 (36:33):
I guess I'll provide contacts for us in a little
bit of the history. So, the Drums are an offshoot
of Sunni Islam. They practice a slightly different religion. I
don't think that they would consider themselves Muslims, but it's
a different religion. It's an offshoot. It came from Sunni Islam.
And there's about a million Drus in the world. Most
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of them live in northern Israel and the go on
in southern Syria. And they've been there for I mean generations.
The Drews go way back, and the Drews in their
religion have and this will be important when I explained
they have a tenant in their religion, which whoever, whichever
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kingdom or ruler or country they resigne in, they pledge
ultimate allegiance to that ruler, no matter who it is,
whether it be Jewish, Christian, Muslim, it doesn't matter. So
after the fall of Asad, al Shara became Ahman al
shar As the current president of Syria or al Jalani
became president, and a lot of the factions which Asad.
(37:42):
People think that Asad quelled the internal strife within Syria
because there's so many different ethnic groups, from the Drus
to the Kurds, to the Alo Whites, to the Shias
to the Sunnis. Assad didn't just wave a magic wand
and everyone was just at peace. Asad slaughtered half a
million people, so it wasn't that he kept the peace.
(38:02):
He just slaughtered more people less so that less people
would die, which ultimately resulted in more people dying. If
that makes sense, it doesn't because it's the Middle East
and nothing makes sense. And so after the fall of Asad,
these Drus were repeatedly pulled over while driving and Bedouin
and Islamists would stop them and literally just beat them,
(38:27):
like beat them.
Speaker 3 (38:28):
Unconscious, I mean, horrible stuff. And this has been going
on for months.
Speaker 4 (38:32):
And so finally the Dru said, the Druz militia said
this is enough and and retaliated against one of these
Bedouin tribes that perpetrated these these crimes. And ever since then,
starting around five days ago, you've had literal convoys of
massed armed Gihattis roaming the town of Swedia, which is
(38:52):
the biggest Druze town in southern Syria. And I mean,
you're butchering people, and the most growth I mean isis style,
will beheadings, forcing people to jump off roobs, reports of rape.
There's been apparently over two hundred women and children that
have been kidnapped in the past four days. So I mean,
I mean really just disgusting, depraves things that that are happening.
(39:17):
And so Israel got a lot of condemnation for striking
the Syrian military headquarters. And the reason that they did
this is these in the first couple of days, it
was Syrian military personnel that were doing most of the butchery.
Speaker 3 (39:33):
It was all Jelani.
Speaker 4 (39:34):
It was Al Sharha's men that did this, and Israel
warned them multiple times for all Jelani to call them off,
and they did it. And the reason there's a lot
of debate right now whether Israel should have done that,
whether it's too far, but the reason that Israel did
it most likely is because the Druids, when they were
the older generation, was born in Syria when it was
(39:57):
occupied by Syria, and so they have more allegiance to
the Syrian government.
Speaker 3 (40:03):
Than they do with the Israeli government.
Speaker 4 (40:05):
But anyone born post sixty seven, once Israel took it,
has extreme allegiance to the State of Israel. And Drews
joined the IDF in record numbers. Every single day, more
and more are being drafted into the IDF, and so
the IDF has you know, you know, Israel's a democracy
that respects all walks of life, whether they be Jewish,
(40:28):
behind Muslim.
Speaker 3 (40:29):
Christian, or Dru's.
Speaker 4 (40:31):
And part of that is I mean there's literally a
fence that separates the Majdal Shans, which is the biggest
Drew city in Israel, where that has black rocket killed
children playing soccer. I mean, I stood at that fence.
It's literally a barbed wire fence. On the other side
is where they're literal. I mean, I was thinking to
(40:51):
a Drew's man who pointed to his to a house
on the hill, and I was like, what are you
pointing at? And he told me that's my home and
I was like, what do you mean? He's like, that's
my home. I just haven't been able to go back
because now there's this sense here he goes my brother
lives in that house right there. I haven't seen him
since the annexation of the go on, and so there
(41:13):
was a lot of drus. I mean, thousands of them
actually storm the border into Syria to be with their drews,
brothers and sisters to help them fight against these jihadists
that were just butchering people in the streets and recording
it all. So I guess that's a drawn out answer
of where we are right now. And sense your question
in terms of pro Palestinians and the silence that we see,
(41:36):
I think they've all exposed themselves that they don't give
a shit about human rights. They don't care about women
and children being killed. They just care about hating Israel.
I mean, day after day we're seeing literal I mean,
what's funny to me, Funny in a more perverse sense
is the amount of lies that I've seen on Twitter
and just other social media accounts then perpetuated.
Speaker 3 (41:57):
Just think about the number of.
Speaker 4 (41:58):
Articles October seventh that have gotten a community note by CNN, BBC,
Sky News, all.
Speaker 3 (42:06):
These other media outlets that have just blatantly lied.
Speaker 4 (42:10):
I mean the Al Ali hospital bombing back in October
of twenty twenty three, where it's in islamichi hot rocket
that hit the hospital parking lot and killed a dozen people,
not five hundred, but they blamed Israel for bombing the
hospital and killing five. And just think about the number
of lives that have been perpetuated by the online discourse
by the media.
Speaker 3 (42:30):
If you go on the New York Times website right
now and.
Speaker 4 (42:33):
Look up Drews, I look at the most recent article
is from two days ago, and it describes them the
butchering of innocent Druis and Christians as sectarian upheaval. I mean,
if you go to CNN, you won't see anything. If
you go to the BBC, you won't see anything. If
you go to Stay News, you won't see anything. If
you go to any of these these losers, these towers,
Meddi Hassan, chenk wig Er, Francesc Albani's Breanna Taylor, I mean,
(42:55):
all these people who've pushed that there's some sort of
humanitarians that have literally yat said a single word about
video after video of women and children being beheaded, raped,
and it's all on video, it's all true. Unlike some
of these lies that have been perpetrated, that have been pushed,
they get hundreds of thousands of likes with zero, zero
(43:16):
fact or reality based beyond them either. And so I
think all these people expose themselves. And maybe you're not
seeing it online, but I think it's being translated to
the average person because anyone in the right state of
mind with any sort of moral clarity knows that they're
silence exposes that they don't care at all about human rights.
They care about defending Islamism is entirest organizations.
Speaker 1 (43:40):
I agree with everything you said.
Speaker 2 (43:42):
I appreciate everything you said, and again I think you're
fucking awesome man, and I appreciate you coming on the podcast,
and you know, I'm so glad I got to meet you,
and I just, you know, wish you nothing but the
best going forward with everything you're doing in your young life,
and keep kick ass, keep being a voice, keeping tenacious,
(44:03):
keep you know, stuffing your brain with facts and history
and all that stuff and sharing it because you're really,
really good at it, and like I said, you inspire me,
and hopefully you're getting a chance to inspire other people.
I'm sure you are, so I appreciate it, y'all to
come on the other podcast.
Speaker 4 (44:18):
I appreciate you, and I appreciate you being one of
the it's caught the few voices in Hollywood with any
sort of voice and moral clarity and not caring about yeah,
the haters, the comments, anything anything else. And I think
the abs what's most important. I think if history has
shown us anything is that.
Speaker 3 (44:38):
The good guys always win.
Speaker 4 (44:40):
I'm very bullish on the future of Jews, even though
there's a bunch of hatred right now. If history has
taught us anything it's that we know in a hundred
years from now, we're still going to be on this planet,
and history is going to judge those who were silent
more than they'll judge those who who were actually perpetrating
the anti Semitism.
Speaker 3 (44:59):
And I think that's and the story of the entire history.
Speaker 4 (45:02):
I look down more upon those who didn't speak out
against the Nazis that I do the Nazis themselves, because
the people who didn't speak out just.
Speaker 3 (45:09):
Watch what happened, like cowards.
Speaker 4 (45:12):
And so I think similarly today there's a lot of
cowards that I need to start speaking up and they
know it too.
Speaker 2 (45:18):
Yah Yah Kobe twenty three years old with the voice
of a grown ass man.
Speaker 1 (45:22):
I'm going to share your social media so people.
Speaker 2 (45:25):
Could follow, get inspired by you, and have a great summer,
and I'll talk to you soon.
Speaker 3 (45:30):
All right, thank you so much, Michael, great seeing.
Speaker 1 (45:34):
I'm done.
Speaker 2 (45:35):
I want to thank you y'all for joining me on
the Iron Report Stereo podcast one more time. Make sure
you follow him at Ya Kobe on Twitter and on Instagram,
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