EP 996 - Christopher McDonald (Actor aka Shooter McGavin) - I AM RAPAPORT: STEREO PODCAST

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Speaker 1 (00:11):
Boom. Welcome to today's I Am Wrapp Reports Stereo Podcast.
We're I have a man, an actor who needs no introduction.
I have Chris McDonald a k A Shooter McGavin, who
has been kicking ass as an actor for decades, everything
from Thelma and Louise to Quiz Show to Requiem for

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a Dream, Too Happy Gilmour, where he start along Adam
Sandler with the iconic performance as Shooter but Gavin. This
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Stereo Podcast. Very very very excited. One of my favorite actors.

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I'm sure a lot of people also considering one of
their favorites, Chris McDonald, the great, longtime veteran kick ass
actor and Buffalo Bill's super fan. I would have to
go with either fan or super fan fan plus probably
super fan. Yeah. I mean, they're the best, well not

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the best, but they boy, were fun to watch this year.
But thanks for having me, Michael, what a joy. I
appreciate you coming on. Like I said, I've been a
longtime fan, but I have to I have to just
back up because they said Buffalo Bill super fan, and
you don't seem like you want to embrace being a
super fan. Are you not a super fan or do
you think that you into like like almost like Howard

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sterned whackpack level. Yeah, a mafia Bills mafia to a
certain extent. There's and then the craziness happens. And I'm
not that guy. I once went to a Super Bowl.
It was the Colts versus the Jets. I think, no,
no Colts first as anyway, was at the Jet Stadium.
The game was over. Oh the Seahawks, of course, and
the Seahawks got him the first thing, and they started

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this is what they do, s Hawks the entire game. Okay,
they're the twelve men on the field. And I turned
around to the girls and I said, seriously, the whole game.
Oh no, we just started. I said, oh my god,
I'm not that kind of fan. I'm not gonna be
that that screaming person in public? In public? True? Okay,

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Now at home I'm asking I don't know at home
what's going on. I'm jumping off the couch when I
see the place, and I go, are you kidding me?
Could you see that arm? Can we see that again?
I rerun things I said, you gotta get in there
and see this one. It's unbelievable. The show they put on,
especially this year at last year's been amazing. Do you
think if you weren't recognizable actor you would be able

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to embrace I feel like you want to jump off
a van onto a table as a Bills Mafia person,
And I feel like the only thing that's doing it
is your career because I feel like but I actually
feel like at this point in your career that would
be like a good thing. But I feel like you're
not embracing your true Bills Mafia super fandom? Am I rong?
Am I looking too deep into this? No? Would you

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jump off a table before a Bill's game? Yes? I would,
depending on the game. First of all, depending on who
was daring me to do it. I mean, if Jim
Kelly was there's like, come on, you know what's do it?
Then I would probably do it, but for the most part,
I uh, I try to keep a cool profile because
you know, shooter shows up and people know, and it's

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got a little bit, a little bit nutty. It's crazy,
and I gotta say I've embraced it. I've learned to
embrace it. But man, I went to the Super Bowl.
I guess it's like three years ago and I had
no peace. So maybe it's a good thing to go
in to a box next time. So that's what I
do now. It's got a great but I listened. I

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love the fans, they're awesome. But you grew up where
of State New York? I was? I'm a Long Island guy,
born in Manhasset, Yeah, Denvers lived there, lived in Freeport, Baldwin,
Merrick with my father and as seven siblings, Irish Catholics
and White. About when I was about twelve or thirteen,
he moved us up to Green Acres. What I call

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it's like Romulus, New York is called. Are you a
Long Islander or you were Upstate New York. I used
to be a Long Island. Now I'm upstate. OK. Yeah,
many years there, I go back. I love I love
it Long Island's one of the great places. I mean,
there's so many great people from there. I do go
bind my old house, like literally three months ago, and
I went, whoa we were? We were living in tight

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quarters because you know, it's on his woodbine drive and
it was this little tiny house. As a kid, I
remember being this massive. But boy, I the Super Bowl
this weekend, the Philadelphia Eagles versus the Kansas City Chiefs.
Who you got? Why do you got them? Do Buffalo
Bills fans have the same level of hate that New

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York Giants have for the Philadelphia Eagles and the Philadelphia
Eagle fans I don't think so. I think they're more
upset that, uh, we're not there and a team that
we beat is there. We beat them, and we just
had tough coming after with you know, Baltimore and everything.
But that's the why I'm thinking I'm going for the

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for the Eagles, because the room for the Eagles. Wow.
I know, It's just I would rather have the team
that beat us lose. Although I really liked that team.
They're good. I mean, Kansas City is freaking good and
that quarterback is unbelievable. It's hard not to like my homeboy.
My homes a great guy and he's couldn't be nicer either.
I met him, my name was like a great great kid,
and I said, wow, man, kudos team. He's got skills,

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crazy skills. He's ridiculous. But it's I think, I think
that you know our our boy, Josh Allen's got skills
in many ways. Josh Allen's sick, sick arm sick runner.
I mean, he's just fearless. He's sick arm, sick runner disposition,
He's sick. You studied at Stella Adler Acting School? Is

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that method acting not quite the opposite? So for you?
And I've asked over these because I I never went
to acting school. Why is it quite the opposite? And
then explain what method acting is two people, because as
non actors like, I know what method acting is sort
of but breakdown with the Stella Adler technique was the

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basis of that and what method acting is. Back in
the day, there was a thing called the Group Theater
and that's where Stella was there with in her husband
and and and a lot of great great mind clipperd
od Debts all that stuff, and they were all working together.
They escape up to like the Hampshire in the summer
and they would all put on plays and work about
the the new way to make a theater great again.

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And she was hearing all this stuff about sense memory
from Lee Strasburg, which is basically, you know, I gotta
get really upset in this scene. I want to go
to the scene where my dog attacks someone and the
person kicked my dog and I went after the person
like a banshee or something like that. And that is
like using something in your life. It will take you
to that moment. She disagreed. She said, I'm going to

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go and study with Stanislavsky himself. I'm gonna go two
Russia and I'm going to study with him. And she did,
and she came back and said, no, no, he said
he was all wrong about sense memory and the and
the method as it were. It's not that it's all imagination.
And that was a a cutting line down. She rarely

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talked to Lee Rasborgarza. You do you, I'll do. Everything
is good. And there's a lot of wonderful people in
the fifties and sixteas and seventies and now even all
went to the studio in New York. But there was
a lot of people who just went with her to
include in de Niro, including wonderful, wonderful character actors and stuff,
because she had a way. When she brought that information

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back after studying with him for like eight weeks or
something like that, she said, no, it's all wrong, it's
all wrong. There was a big divide and uh so, anyway,
what's great about her is it's the truth of your
art is in your imagination. It's all about the choices
you make. You can live the fact that someone kicked
your dog, but you don't have to like see your
dog Skippy getting kicked or anything like that. So it's
a little dangerous. I use it every day because if

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I'm loose enough in the scene that I can basically
take it anywhere, I could surprise myself and get into
that place called which is where, And we've all been there,
and I'd love to recreate it more often than I do.
When you're in the zone, well you don't know what
the hell what did I just do? But whatever you
just did, or that night on stage, whatever you just did,
She's I'd love the ram but to do that again
because that was amazing. But you just get into this

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wild kind of nothing manners and moment by moment by
moment by moment becomes this whole different thing. Was a
whole different spin on it. So that's what I get
from it, and I use, I use. I gotta say
whatever works for anybody as an actor, whatever gets you there.
I totally get what you're gonna do. But when I
met Stella, it was a life changing experience. Why why,

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I mean you you just kind of explained why, but
a little bit more everything was lifted up into a
whole another era. You just couldn't hope to go and
get into scene study and like, God, that girl's cute.
I like to do a scene with her and she
looks hot. It wasn't about that at all. I was like,
when I'm gonna do I want to do Shakespeare, I'm
gonna do check Off, I want to do Ibsen string Berg,
and I'm going to bring up the stage. And if
I don't bring it and do I have done all

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my research and done all that. The what it was
going on politically was going on, you know what was
going on in the times that I'm not going to
bring it and she's going to rip me a new one.
So if you could get through that class and the
scene study, you can get through anything. Was there any
other actors that wound up making it that you were
in classes with at that time? Uh, that's a very

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good usher. And also and um, I think there's I
think Philip Seymour Hoffman wasn't. I was a member a
little bit after me, But a lot of people have
come out of stud others I went to time. There
was a bunch of people that I studied with. I
went from Founder in l A on her summer course.
She used to come out, went to New York study
with her there. Told her how broke I was. I

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would love to stay on. She says, ken, you boughten
darling And I said, yeah, good you my bo. And
that's how I paid for class. And I went to
the West Coast. I was a driver and things like that.
So I got to really know her well. And uh
it was cool because I didn't have the money. I
wasn't making commercials like we make those goofy moneys from
we're starting out. So um, we got very close and
I benefited immeasurably from it. What based on what you

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know is method acting? And have you ever I've never
acted with a method actor where I'm like, you know,
you hear these stories about Daniel day Lewis, So try
to explain what method acting is and answer this. Have
you ever been around and actual method actor who's like
fully like in character, like while we're at craft service, Yes,

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I have. Um, I can't name him because I would
be that would be bad. But he was one of
those guys that name because you don't have to name it.
But you know what's funny about actors. We'll never name
these actors that do that because are we embarrassed for them? Hey,
let them do them? And I say, do you you
know the same thing. It's not my place to tell him,
like what the hell are you doing, pal um, But

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we've seen it. I'd say it's not our place to
do that. I get. I mean if it was offensive
that there was like dude, just chill as this one
guy I got, he just would just he was hitting
the wall, punch ball. It's like it's almost the scene
in like a Raging Bull where he's in prison. He's
going boom boom, hitting the wall and his head again,
what you doing? You're stupid? What you do? Easy? Pal? Easy?

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You bet We've got three or four five takes to
do with this. You're gonna kill yourself and your hands
are gonna be bloody? What are you doing? Just getting
to that moment? Man? Okay, all right, choice it's like
what what the famous story with what? You know? Yeah,
it's called acting, young man, Try acting? And you know,

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because he would stay up all night and get bleriot
and do kind of stuff and it rocks in his
shoes and exactly, I mean he's sick to Dustin Off
is one of one of my favorite actors too. What
a great, great, great talent, ridiculous um and still doing it.
God love him at seventy something, at eighty something, don't
you know. I was talking to my wife about this.
I was like, we're not athletes, you know, we could
do it into the wheels fall off. You know, it's

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a different thing. Like Tom Brady had to retire. He
can't physically do it. His mind could do it. Yeah,
you know, Uh, Lebron's gonna have to stop. Michael Jordan's stuff.
Everybody has to stop. But for us, we don't. You know,
obviously you need your faculties working. And there's been some actors,
you know, where things have caught up with them, but
for the most but if you could physically do it,

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go to the set. I mean, you do it. It's
because wouldn't you imagine you want to do it until
you couldn't do it anymore. I would do it until
I couldn't remember my name, you know that kind of thing.
God forbid you get Alzheimer's or something and you can't
remember anything. But now by then they'll have little things
in your ears that people use these days that you
know the Malla never learned a line, right, he was like,
I just read it off the walls, and you know

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some of his most brilliant stuff where he was looking
up and just you know, gazing off and getting the
lines and coming back and making it seamless. You're gonna go,
what God now, he wasn't he? Marlin was one of
Stella's prize pupils. And there's the guy that's arguably the
greatest actor because what he his choices were so unique.
Just the very famous one where he's walking in the

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park and he's with, you know, with the girl he
wants to be even Marines sat down, she drops her glove,
he picks it up, and the action was basically want
to get to know you. I like you, I really
like he starts putting her little glove on his hand.
People still talk about that it was a moment of genius.
That kind of stuff is. And if you're a method actor,
I don't know if you do that, you pick it up,

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you give it to her, you know, let's move on.
But it comes more of a moment to moment thing.
And when you see that happening, and it has happened
to me, you know, not enough, but when it does,
it's magic time. So for me, I mean you said it,
you know, like about when you get in the zone,
like you know, when you're you know, getting jobs, you know,
getting to the set and you know, waiting to get

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on set, waiting to shoot action between action and cut
is the magic. It's all that matters. That's it. And
it's a short period of time. But the you know,
elation when it goes your way, I mean, the only
thing that you could compare to when it's really going away.
It's a sexual elation. That's a good point, you know
what I mean. When you're flying and you, like you said,

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you can't contrive it. You could even be kicking ass
in the scene, but you might not have that elation.
You could be doing a really good job, but you
might not be having that elation. Well said, yes, you're
absolutely right. Um, when you were a kid or a
young man, who were the actors that you were like,
you know this guy, I want to be like this
guy and this guy. I love this guy. And you
know who were the ones that were like drawing you

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to it and that where you were inspiring you the most. Well,
it's a simple one. It was uh a fellow head
over heels with Jack Nicholson. I thought Jack Nicholson was
the next coming. He was funny, he was irreverent, he
was you know, he just ate the scene up when
he was in it. At the so many great movies.
I mean, of course he did. He did that crazy

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part in in uh, that sixt sixty nine movie with
the motorcycles, easy writer, and he was amazing in that.
And then he did the one that ripped my heart out.
He's the son. You're gonna know the name of this too.
He's the son and he has to go home and
he's a he's the whole families like pianists and um.

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And it was just we're such big fans. We can't
even remember that. Well, that's the thing. That's what I'm
worried about. So but anyway, um he he always gave
it in spades, and the director of that asked him
as said, Jack, I need you to really kind of
lose it here your home and you gotta talk to
your dad and he's just sitting in the wheelchair and
you wheel him out into this thing and the sea
airs blowing. I just want to tell him that. It's

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sort of like the Willie no Loman moment when Biff
is talking to his father and father dad, I'm nothing,
I'm nothing, pop. And I played that role and I
just I fed off of that that movie so much
that Jack came out tears and snopped coming out of
his nose telling his father, I can't live up to
what you want me to live up to, Dad, And
it was unbelievably hard. I said that, motherfucker, I want

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to do that. That was you know what I'd like
to do. I know he's in you know, he's older now,
he's not going to games. I want to go sit
down with him and tell him thank you and maybe
write something about the impact is he has had on
younger actors because he is one of the greats, no
question about it. You should a hundred percent to do
that because he is older, and he's so sick and

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so good and has been so good and so unique.
And you know, I'll say for myself, you know I've
stolen from DeNiro. Any New York actor has stolen from DeNiro.
I could say that almost every actor has stolen something
from DeNiro. And you know whether I've gotten away, whether
it or not, that remains to be seen. But Jack

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Nicholson is so unique, and he was so unique from
the beginning. You almost can't copy him because it would
be so obvious exactly because he was so out there
and he filled it five easy pieces of the name
of the movie. I've got a great movie. I want
to you want me to hold the chicken. I don't
want you to hold the chicken between your thighs. Let
me come on. He was just riffing. It was just what.

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He's just one of those unique I use a funny thing.
I listened to a lot. I drive a lot, and
I live out of town, so I listened to a
lot of books on tape, like Audible and stuff like that.
And I'm listening to Warren Beatty and I'm listening to
all these people and I'm listening to the late great Uh.
You know he was such a brilliant actor too, but

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in a cometic way. Um Hopper, No, but he was.
He was the sexiest man alive in the seventies movies
Bert not Bert, Bert Reynolds and Bert Reynolds Gone. Listening
to him is his dry humor. His humor was ahead
of its time because he had that dead pan try
you know what the hell like him on Johnny Carson,

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Like when you see I mean he was so great
on because you don't know what you know, he was like,
you know, doing all this crazy stuff. Yeah, he's great.
You know who's got that now? And the show that
I love to watch is called Shrinking is Harrison Ford
is doing and he's great. And so I mean, Bert's
reading this stuff, he's telling his story about he's reading
his own autobiography. He gets to the point where he goes, yeah,

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then they offered me something something, some astronaut in the movie.
And Jack gets the part. You know, it's with you know,
all these great actors and Winsday Academy Ward and he said, yeah,
that was stupid and then I turned this one down
where he place. You know, he's playing with some something
with a dog. Jack wins another oscar. He's like, what

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the hell is I think kick and he goes to
the whole thing when he did the whole spread layout
when he was naked, and he heard this whole crew
right at the time that Deliverance was coming out. It
was I just I love listening to those things that
just kind of journey because Burt, Burt Reynolds, I mean
the way he he's speaking, I mean, he was the dude,
no question, here's the man for like twelve years, the

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man in Hollywood. You know, he made chest hair sexy.
He was but a naked and that's right, and he
would like to take that back, and that he would
he would screwed him up on it, basically screwed him
because I think it screwed the film up right, And
that's he had this. It became bigger, bigger than that.
It's bigger than it could it should have been, but it, boy,
it went viral. As they say, who else besides Jack, Oh,

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is your is your one? One? A one b guys
that you were like, this is these are my guy
or girl? Okay, I would have to go with them.
I'd have to go with somebody living great like English
actors like um, Peter O'Toole. God, I loved him, uh
And I had the great pleasure of meeting him one
a too, and he said, hey, you've got a good face.

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You're gonna do fine. But Peter O'Toole one of those
guys that can do anything. Legendary drinker, legendary stories about
him and Harris and all those guys getting together and
just tying one on. And you see that, you look
him up on the on YouTube and you go, oh
my god. These guys were when it went crazy and
anyway o'tooles started out like what kind of a way

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to jump into the movie business. But Lawrence of Arabia,
Uh my god, it was so amazing and the screen
loved him and he went on and for years and
years and meet these great, great, great movies, ridiculously totally
unique to Yeah, And when I really wanted to become
an actor, I went to England. I was lucky enough
to be chosen in my college and went to Holbark
College and up State New York. Hey, we're going over

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to Europe and you are you auditioning all this thing?
And you're going with us? So there's like twelve of
us going over to do this study abroad in London,
I discovered the West End Theater. I was absolutely brown
away by one actor, Derek Jacoby. Derrek Jacoby, and his
prime is ridiculous again, I mean what, I can't even
think of a better word to say, so professional. He

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did three different shows he did like the Tempest As
You Like It and Cyrano back to back to back.
Every other day he did a different play and I
saw and I just my mouth was on the floor
that you cannot believe that he is doing this the
amount of pure volume of lines. How do you I

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was just absolutely blown away and still them by his acting.
He's a wonderful actor. But boy, those days were like wow.
And then I met him after, which is, oh, would
you like to play like the play? What are you
talking about? Syria? You killed it? And I just I
gotta say that you're making me want to do what
you do so bad to see if I can at
least get a snippet of what you have changed. Because God,

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you're you're You're a god in my eyes. As far
as if I was acting goes here and he was yes, Yeah,
I love that. Before podcast. You worked with great directors.

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I'm not even gonna name all of them, and you
please chime in because I'm just named. I just wrote
down three because of the biggest name. You worked with
Ridley Scott Felman, Louise Massive, massive, successful movie, huge pop
culture phenomenon, ginormous movie. You worked with another actor turn

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director Red. What didn't I say it Red for something,
Rob Robert two rs. I remember Robert Robert Roberto. No, ha,
something was red and then something was appening. It was
a red and then it was a four. You worked
with Robert Red, a great director on Quiz Show, which

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I love that film. You worked with Darren Aronovski Requiem
for a Dream. What do directors do for you with
an actor? You know? Um? Because this is a question
that non actor, non show business people will ask, and

(23:20):
to explain it is, uh, it's hard to explain, you know.
For me, I've never had a director. I think a
lot of times people think like a director will do
like throw some magic potion on you, you know, um.
And I think everybody's interpretation of what a director does
for actors obviously visually they do all sorts of things, dude.
I mean, directors are answering questions and you know they're

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picking this couch versus that table and that you know book,
and I mean they're doing so much. But speaking on
behalf of actors for you, um in film, these are
films because I know on television it's a different story,
specially which I want to ask that ask. But for you,
what does a a director do or doesn't do that
you would make them say this is a great director.

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And if you could tie in those three names at all,
I gotta break it down that way because the first
one was a seminal moment for me to put me
out in the in the world of people like, oh
who is that guy? It was great, Really, Scott is
first of all, casting is everything they say, So you
know you've gotta be really you direct, you know, you
gotta cast that are the right people you want. And uh, anyway,

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there was one movie in town and my ex Gina
Davis was the start of it. So you guys used
to we used to were engaged. We bought a house
to get had no idea. Yeah, it was a big
kind of a thing right here, AMZ Right there? But
she wrote about me in her books. She wrote this
book right there, just right now, that's really great, and uh,
she broke my heart but at the same and left

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me for Jeff Goldman when she did this movie. Long
story short is, I was going to come up and
play the rapist. If you remember that movie, there's the
guy that was the whole like motor for the rest
of the movie. We got the hell out of here
and we're not going through Texas that kind of thing.
And I said, well, I would just basically take that
money go right to therapy. I'm not going to play
a rapist, but you know what, I'd be interested in

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playing the husband. So she was already cast, already cast, Okay,
so go ahead. Now there are different stories about this,
but it doesn't really matter. The way I lived. I
went right into the lu Jajaima. I don't know if
you ever work with liut with the one of the
great cast and directors. And I walked in this room
and I I loved really Scott's work so much, and
I just basically knew I had to go out prepare

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it and come in and do it. And there's not
fifteen people sitting including Bruce Willis, including all these other
great actors. Well, yeah, you know who's Huey Lewis was there.
Funnily enough, other actors that I've worked with before that.
But anyway, it was amazing just to go in there
and sit with them. And I had just I had

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gone home. I lived close to where they were auditioning,
and I went on and put this perfect leisure suit
on it that I have had a little closet of
little things to wear, and I had this little thing
that went around my my things said number one on
It was given to me like a girl in high school.
She's doing so well. I love Grace Stewart, You're amazing,
and this is me. I saw Tupper where and I'm
number one and she said it to me, and I thought,
where is that necklace? So I put that bad boy

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on it. Now I'm feeling like a little bit light,
like this guy is coming to fruition with me, and
I go and I read this thing and he laughs
out loud and I end up getting the part. Long
story short, is the great thing about a director like
Ridley Scott is the fact that, man, if you get
someone who just as you're champion, you want to do

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anything for him. My very first see in that movie,
I'm leaving the house. I got the new shoes on
with the like that thing. There's nobody. I go out
in the in these clothes like and it's slippery because
he got these two jamos, because talk about a visual artist.
He added these two guys and said, hey, you always
film was always working on her house. And I slip
and I fall right on my ass and I banged
my head on the cement maker and I get up.

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The little guy on my shoulder said, keep going, just
keep going. I got up. I got in the car.
I ad lived like midday, yeah home. I watched out
of three o'clock that get in the car and like
pull out in my car. Had he left the one
so much? The number one put it on my license plate,
the one this is the visual guy, and he said, listen,
we could do that again, but that's in the movie.

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Because that was it. It was it. It was a wonder.
It was really really funny. Anyway, when you get a
director of that champions you like that, you feel like
a million bucks. Segue over to Robert Redford, brilliant, great director,
wins like beats. Martinus Carcese out of the nineteen eighty
oscar with his movie and then beats out Raising Bull.

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I mean, wow, but a beautiful beautifutiful both beautiful. I
mean Raging Bull was one of my favorite top three anyway.
But so he never talked to me. He did cast me.
I flew myself to New York. I was in l
A at the time, working on a pilot. But I
flew myself to New York. And I said, I gotta
get in front of him, and goes and on Bob's late.

(27:58):
Oh Bob was always later, early hours later. He just
you know, he just didn't. Time is different. And so
I go to the television car archives and I watched
this guy, this Jack Barry guy from Quitch Show, from
Quitch Show, and uh, I got him. I mean, I'm
not gonna mimic him, but I got that feel. Right
I come in. He sees it in my eyes. He goes, Chris, Bob,
good to see it. I'm just come in with me.

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So I've already liked Slated. I've been there for you know,
two and a half hours. I Slater. Can I get
the slate thing out of the slatings? When you say
your name and what agents here with so can I slate? Yeah? Good,
So I'm thinking I'm going in that room. He goes,
no, No No, Chris comes on me because I've got a problem.
You are a Jack Barry. And I'm looking at the
casting director and I think Bonnie Term and she goes yeah,

(28:40):
and I went, oh my god. So he says he
talked to me twenty five minutes about life, about choices,
about where I've been, where, how I grew up, all
kind of stuff. Not unlike you, Michael. Anyway. What the
funny thing is that he never talked to me on
the set. All he worked with was to tourro and

(29:00):
Ray Finds and I thought wow, and he noticed that,
and so they were doing a lighting shetup and he
came over. He said, Chris, you're doing right, you do
that's just that's they're just perfect or anything like that.
That ever to the story, and he went into a
twenty five minute monologue that just made me think, man,
you're putt in time in for me, because you could
feel that I was feeling a little left out. I

(29:20):
would everybody step off. But he's really getting really intense
with Rafe and really intense with John and who were
both brilliant in that film, and he just recognized that
and I thought, wow, I just that's when I direct.
I'm gonna I'm gonna keep this moment in my head.
It's brilliant and Darren Aronofsky completely different. I Mary renewed Godlover,
She's cast me a few times. I go and I auditioned,

(29:40):
and he later did I make you auditioned for that thing?
Because he said, you know you were great. Anyway, I
go to New York. He lives on the you know West.
He liven't Hell's Kitchen. Just Chris going over and we'll
go up on the roof. So I go up on
the roof and I started at limb. He's got a
little camera and he starts making this whole thing up.
You know, you're I was like channeling Tony Robbins. So anyway,

(30:01):
completely different, Uh, totally out there. He said, we're gonna
walk the streets right now. After I did this whole
ad lib on his roof. Walked the streets and I
would stop people and go, have you changed your life?
And you know about the three things that could change
your life? And it was amazing. Some people go, I
kind of know who he is so they would stop
and talk and he used all that stuff in the
video about the whole thing. It was just amazing and
I I, you know, Matthew le Batique, who shot it,

(30:23):
was a complete genius, and I had seen Pie up
at Sundance, so I knew who he was and it
was just that was a roller coaster and working with
I mean, those great actors. What beautiful movie that is
Dark Party of three, Dark, Oh my god, that everyone
who went through that hell of drug addiction was the

(30:44):
biggest anti drug movie I think ever made. Unbelievable. I
love that film. Were you aware in the script or
on set? Obviously your stuff was kind of on its
own how visually unique it would be, because I would imagine,
you know, I mean there was like all these crazy
things with the eye and the show and that this.
Were you aware how visually you know, like stimulating that

(31:06):
film would be or did you? Did you when you
saw it? Were you? Like? The first time I saw
it was at the midnight screening, and Ken the first
time had been there with the movie. I've been there
earlier with other things and went to all the parties
like you do, but man, I was there for the
twelve o'clock screening. I was like, and I looked over
he was sitting two seats down and went, holy God,
really goes. Oh you haven't seen it yet, keep on

(31:26):
and it was just wow, the big standing ovation things
like that. He said it was the most edit's in
a movie ever with all of that stuff, like with
the eyes and stuff. Oh my god, it was insane.
He just he just is a different level of an
autour and uh and his latest one, The Whale, Jesus,

(31:46):
what a rip your heart out story that is. I mean,
he's just he can he can do anything. He different level.
But those three of my my favorite experiences as an actor.
And to go back to my original question, like in
terms of you know, director fairy Dust or director Magic
Touch or you know, for me, I would always say,
it's what you said about really, Scott, it's the support.

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It's not so much you know, it could be do
it faster, do it slower, but it's making you feel
comfortable and making you feel a part of and giving
you that just that confidence exactly, which is night and day.
Some guys can get up and get you that fashion.
It's like, oh okay, that's fine, I can do it fast.
I can do. I can do anywhere you want. But
when they go get you're killing it. You know, just

(32:30):
you know, just just keep on doing what you're doing,
and you do a couple more takes. It was so
fun working with Harvey Kitel because what did you work
with him on? It was the one Luis and he
was the cop right and so this whole thing. There
was a pizza on the ground and I was like,
actually the first time every day there's a fly there
that with the fly there were though fly there, but
the fly in later and went the thing for love.

(32:50):
My hand dropped my phone like that. And then I'm
getting the information from the detective Harvey Tell and he goes, yes,
your your wife is like showber picts like what what
it was just like? And he had to say, sir,
you're stepping in your pizza. He couldn't say it's straight.
They just basically used what he had because he kept
it kept laughing the whole time. And then they was

(33:13):
sitting outside a little later. Everywhere you in love with them, Well,
I am about as much as you can be with
a nutcase like that. Come on, great lines, Kelly Corey.
I love her to death. I mean what we just
ran with it. It was so much fun. And that
kid Pitt, what is it? I don't know what. I
don't know what happened to me. He had promised that
is what he had. That was about it, but I

(33:34):
never saw him again. Pit of fools really when it
turned out something about abs. I mean, funk I have
an ab I got. I got just like to as
that's the problem. But I heard that you can do
a plank for six minutes. That's fact. Chris, all right,
now that's badass. I guess gotta say. I tried three,

(33:56):
and it's you could get to get to six. I
can't get the six. Could do it right here, isn't it? Yeah?
Just go to three, three thirty. Then you'll get to
four and then' like I got this. Wow, when you
get to five, you'll go I could get to sixes.
And then some guy just broke the records like eight
hours and forty five. I was like, what don't you
have something? That young man? He knows it was early sixties,

(34:17):
so don't you have something to do? Like? I just went,
I'm gonna hanging out in there doing planks. But I
could sit on the couch freight. I was a forty
eight minutes, like it would be hard for me to
do like let alone planking. Yeah, that's that's a shame,
but good for him. I want to play a game
of what makes them great? Okay, cool actors who you've

(34:39):
worked with, and I want you to tell me what
makes them great. One of my favorites, John Tatuo. What
makes him great? You worked with him on Quiz Show?
Break him down as an actor? The real deal? All
I can say the man became that character in the
Inquis show. But he's so good in his current stuff

(35:01):
right now. I watched this thing, uh sal the Severances.
He's unbelievable. I love Affair with Christopher Walking. It's it
ripped your heart out. It's so beautifully delicately done. So
he's all about like flick notes. He says, he has
all these ticks and things that are really really interesting.
But he embodied that that role and Quiz Show, and

(35:23):
he's so great and everything he does because he's just
a little bit. He's a very He's a thinking actor.
That's what he is, and and it makes all the
difference in the world. He's not just regurgitating lines. He's
living them, and I just nothing but respect. It's called
The Night The Night Of the Night Of. That really
cool and and it was a pity they didn't do
more of them. But boy talked about he sits there

(35:45):
the whole time, then he has to get up and
give this ridiculous closing argument and you go, oh wow,
he's wow stuff. So he really is. He's so unique,
and he's like, you know, the way he develops characters
and what I mean, he talked about methods and and
still had learned, you know, and and none men. He

(36:07):
seems to have like got the whole thing down. Yeah,
Like he's got the whole thing and he's able to
do it. Yeah. He's a consummate artist and director, good
director and just one of those guys that have been
you know, you guys from New York. I'm a York Elshall,
but I bloomed where I was planning it out here,
and I miss If I could do it over again,
I would have stayed and try to make my way
in New York, although it's a very tough town as

(36:30):
you all know, but in California. But what I love
about the Honey's not gonna work. You're not gonna get
the part, so well, we'll talk next time out here. Oh,
don't don't take another job. You're on our list, your
top three. I think it's gonna be He's a short
list is a short list, but we got you, so
don't do anything and you die of enthusiasm, you know,
like it really didn't get it when you're agents and manages.

(36:51):
How you're on a shortlist is your temptations, like who
the funk else is on the shortlist? And for for
people like so where we're up for a part? A
lot of times we'll get told when we're getting close
or not. They might just say you're on the short
list just to make you feel good, so you don't
jump off a bridge. My temptationous, who the funk else
is on the list? Who are they? Who the fund is?

(37:13):
Who else is on this fucking short list? Because also
I want to know, like number one, can I find
them and like, you know, beat them up? And number
two like I'm like just like to kind of take
you out of the unknown, because one of the hardest
things for being an actor is the unknown. When you're
gonna work next true who you lost the job to?
Who's on the short list? That's the thing that drives

(37:34):
me craziest. I used to be that way, Michael. I
used to like be comparing and that's uh, what's what's
the take? Comparison is the thief of thief have actors?
That's the Shakespeare said, the thief of time or something
like that. Anyway, you should never do that. What happened
back in the day and you were around these days?
Who's the pilot seasons? I'm so glad that ship gone away.

(37:55):
That was let ridiculous. Come in. There's fifteen guys just
like you, or very much the same like you, sitting
out in the hallway and you're going coming in. So
you're going then you just you know, you make it
about that moment to act that day there was it
was it you do that stuff. But I was about
to do a play and then my then manager said no, no,
don't do a play. No, you're you. You were second

(38:16):
place Charlie like four times last season. I went, yeah,
they know who I am. It's all good. I'm doing
this play. I go and do this play. It's when
you're coming back. Red Rodder playing a most incredible character
called Teddy, written by the great Mark met Off and
I do it in Santa Fe, New Mexico. I'm so
glad I did it. I met my wife, were together
thirty years. It was a game changer. I came back

(38:37):
in March and I just got a seriously, so it
was like I made the right call. But I took
some cohna's to say, no, you understand, they know who
I am. I lost out to that guy because he
said he was in a commercial. That guy he's like,
was big because he did that movie. It's okay, I
get it. But there's enough out there, especially now with streaming.
I mean the content that's just that's coming in waves.

(38:59):
So there's a lot of how to work out there.
And I have a daughter who's starting out in this business.
She's gonna be an act. Believe me, I would have
dissuaded her. I saw that she didn't have any gifts
and she's got skills. So it's a beautiful thing. Man.

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Next on what makes them great? What makes finds great?
She's a camelion. He can do literally anything. I just
saw him in New York. He was doing the play
where the guy who was building all the roads in
New York City and out to Long Island and he
didn't like public transportation, so what he did was he
lowered him so no busses could go through. How about that?

(39:48):
And anyway, just brilliant, constantly working a just one of
those minimalists actors too. I'm a little bit more animated myself.
You could probably be charged with that one too. Um.
But he's just it's all right here, it's all you
know in his mind, and it's just it comes out
so fun. Yes, he could do wacky comedies too. At

(40:08):
the same time he is, uh, he's royalty and he'll
he'll probably end up, you know, getting all kinds of
you know, serves and all that kind of stuff in
his life. He's just he's a working machine too. He
loves to act. That's only does. He doesn't have family,
just basically acts, which is terrific. Yeah. Um, Kathy Bates,
he worked with y. I got a story about her.

(40:31):
I was blessed to work with her in that series.
Um wow. David E. Kelly was writing it and it
was called Harry's Law. I came in as a guest star.
They made me a regular because man, I just I
just thought, all you have to do is react, You
don't act with Kathy, you react. So we're doing this
one scene and it's a quick story doing this one
scene and she's got this really rip your heart out thing,

(40:54):
and I though, God, that was that was incredible, you know,
shooting on her. It's just she's done it three times
for guy, do one more? I said, I mean, wow,
Im sure, I mean, Chris, I'm not keeping you might no, no, no, no,
the director said, friend, just one more. The hair was
standing up in the back of my neck. I mean,
how can you take it from great to brilliance? That's

(41:17):
what she can do. She can go to that extra
step and still set down and have a beer with you.
And she's one of the guys and just one of
the great chicks. Um. We were shooting at Warner Brothers.
We come across that to that smoke house, a classical
restaurant that has the many movies have been shot in
there and just have just gone on after are getting
through the week and just have a great time. One

(41:39):
of the great, great, great actors that have worked with
this is Cathy Bates. Love that. I love that. Give
me one more actor who you worked with that while
you were with them in a scene, you kind of
were like oh ship because they were so good. It
could have been a take or a moment throughout your
career where they just kind of like I've had a

(42:00):
few moments where I'm just like, you know where you're
in it, but you're kind of like a fuck, They're
like you know where you like because I'm a fan
and I can tell you're a fan. Is there a
moment like or or an actor that another one who
impressed you that you when you were out there with them.
There's been a few. But I mentioned Harvey too. I
didn't mention the Harvey. I mean he was harveyd Kite

(42:20):
tell what is a great guy too, and just I
mean it's an interesting thing. But I'm thinking, Um, series work,
you work with them all the time, and and sometimes
in movies you don't get to work with everybody. It's
like we didn't get a chance to work the boy
what we get it and then and then you know
you lose track with him. You can come back together.
But I remember a moment that I was working with

(42:40):
this woman who was not Oscar nominated, just fantastic actor,
and um, she came at me on the third take
and I had to go what I had to really
just kind of laser vision. Kathleen Quinlan is her name.
She's a very very talented actor, and she came at

(43:02):
me with this completely different of left field, but it
fed the scene so much that I never forgot it.
I thought, well, I'm gonna have to steal that from you,
because that was just brilliant. And she did it to
me a few times. She was a real, real r
and seer and in the moment actor, and that's fun.

(43:23):
That's when you just basically in that zone. And then
she would lift that zone. She'd probably been in the
zone more than any actor right now. So it's terrific.
But it's hard you get older as a woman. And
then they stopped calling you know, it's it's it is tough.
Ages him sucks, It sucks across the board. Um my, last,
what makes them great? Adam Sandler? What makes Adam Sandler great?

(43:45):
He's smart? You don't think he's smart as he plays
all these dufaces, but the man is smart. Oh yeah,
Oh he's got it down. So uh. I was about
to turn down that movie and I said, now what
am I doing? I just want this golf to him
and I gotta I gotta sit down. With Adam and
maybe that roles still available. And I went and said,
twenty five minutes, I left my ass off, and I
thought this guy just he just got it. And he

(44:07):
was so funny and so like self effacing and so
like a you know, I'm the I'm the underdog kind
of a thing. And you see, this is a big
depth to him. There's a lot of depth. And I'm
to be honest with you, I'm I'm a little shocked
he didn't get a nomination before this, this Hustle movie.
He was so good. He's been been great lot. I've
been great for a lot of things. Yeah, but the
ones he makes or what they are and then they

(44:29):
go through the roof at Netflix. But he was so
great and he because it's right down his alley and
he just loved doing it. And I I gotta say,
what makes him great is, uh, he he'll try anything.
He'll try anything, and and it may not work, but
he's gonna embrace the hell out of it and try
to make it work. And there's been you know, it's
where it didn't work. But boy, when he when he

(44:50):
goes there and makes it work, it's kind of like
nobody else can do what he does. So just take
my hat off to him. I'm I'm a fan. I
wish I would work with him more, but that's amount
of his posse. The legend of Shooter McGavin, happy gilmore.
So did you audition to play Shooter McGavin and important question?

(45:11):
Did you audition to play Shooter McGavin? And in the
script do you remember did it just say shooter or
did he say Shooter McGavin. That's a really interesting question, Michael.
Here's the thing. No, I did not. They offered it
to me. I was up at that you know that
Adams Mark whatever they call in uh Vancouver where everybody
goes uh because the role the actor's day, and but

(45:33):
I had a place out of town. Anyway, Dennis Dugan
runs into MELI Chris mcdown, we've been looking for you.
You gotta play Shooter, you gotta play. You gotta look
at this. I take the thing and I was like,
it's really funny, it's good, but I haven't seen my
kids in three months, and so long story short, as
I turned it down and then I said, and it's
then it comes to because Chris, what it was gonna take?
I said, well, I gotta see I gotta meet Adam,

(45:56):
meet Adam having a great time, and he says, okay,
now he needs And I said, the only reason I
didn't turn it down was because I didn't see my
kids in three months. You want to bring my wife
and kids and give us a place to stay, I'm
then you're I'm your man. I'd love to do it.
So no, I did not audition. He came up and
he goes to the Bob Simon as the producer and
goes he Bob, we got him. But it took a
little something. What what did you? What did you do?

(46:17):
He just needed, you know, housing, and so we put
him out in one of the things by the river,
and it's gonna be great. So I didn't live with
everybody in that big hotel and you all that carousing stuff.
I was like my own thing, which was basically a
shooter with it's all about Shooter. It's only thinks about
as himself. So it was just a great joy to do.
We started add living a little bit. The first scene
I did was you're gonna beat me at golf, trouble appalty,

(46:40):
pieces of ship like you for breakfast. No, So I
add live the no, and they left it in and
I thought, that's freaking great. That's also that they left
it like fair, don't come back. Just the country club golfer.
It was so much fun, so much fun to do.
We laughed, Oh my god, that asked and that was

(47:00):
so good and and and Dennis Doging did a great
job too. You had a fucking ball of doing that
ball last they paid me if they golf, Michael, come on,
it was awesome. So you had been playing golf before
you took on the role of Shooter McGavin not much,
because this is what happened my then age, and gave
me a I bought his father's clubs and there were blades,
you know, the sweet spots about the size of half

(47:22):
a dime. And I went, I get, I can't hit
the ball straight. What the hell is going on here?
I never played during high school or college, but I
started in my you know, mid twenties. And so by
the time I did that movie, I had been playing
a bit because I got hollow back ones. And then
I thought, oh, this is a lot of consistency here.
Now I'm I'm like b x G S man that

(47:42):
messing around Parsons Extreme Golf Clubs baby, they are the
Mercedes bins of clubs. How many pairs, how many sets?
How many bags of golf clubs do you own? How
many have you gotten since you graced the world playing
Shooter McGavin in Happy More? Do you get golf clubs
just sent to you? No, but close. I had the bag,

(48:05):
the original bag from Happy Gilmore, but they said shoot
McGavin on it, and it's got their great Wilson staffs
grid clubs. I played with them for a couple of years.
Then I started getting him from Ping, I started getting
from Callaway, I started getting until I probably have seven
bags and two in New York and you've had to
give away gift of friends. Say no, no, thank you,

(48:27):
I'm good. Yeah, it's it's you know. I made a
joke one times like it as great as being so shoot.
I never played for golf, but of course I played
for golf. I mean they they give me a nice
tea spot and everything with nice people. But but I
always wanted to take that back, so I'm doing it
on your show. I pay for golf people, and I'm
not one of those guys that gets, you know, those freebees.
But clubs. I did very well with clubs. I, you know,

(48:49):
like I don't like to travel with them because the
the uh I had a really beautiful set that was
fitted for me, and somehow they didn't make it the
plane right. I said, how's that possible? And I said,
shoot on the bag and they're going on someplace really,
So I said, I just put them into places where
I'm going, or I'll for ip plivate private. That's what
I never worked out. You have the actual bag from

(49:12):
Happy Gilmore that says shoot her on him? How much
do you think that puppy's worth? Like that should be
in the Smithsonian. You know, someone told me that the
uh I gave the original driver to Jim Kelly event
to raise money for Kelly for kids, And I thought, well,
I guess the guy puts it. He buys it for

(49:32):
ten thousand dollars. He calls to me about a month
he goes, you know what that's going for right now?
I said what the driver? He goes, yeah, how about
four hundred thousand dollars? I said, wow. He said, I
think if I hang onto it longer, it's could be
much more. He says, what else you got? So I said,
I've got the bag where they beat my ass up.
And then you know, when I'm running with the jacket,
gold jacket, I mean, you know, you have all those

(49:53):
boys and guys and girls and beating on me because
they take the jacketback. So they made this this bag
and they beat it all up. And I have that
one too. It's pretty funny. I don't know. The bag
is probably worth a lot of money. I don't know.
That's crazy. That would be such an on her to
have it in the That's like Fonzi's jacket for guy. Um,

(50:15):
do you still play golf? I do play today? How
many I had to shoot? Actually, I was teaching jeans
smart Okay, so were my coach starring hacks. We're gonna
do a show with golf involved, and I'm just over
the moon about that. So I shoot pretty well now
now that I have my clubs fitted for me and

(50:35):
I'm really kind of in love with them, and I
love the game. I'm swinging smoother, I'm taking that one,
and I'm taking a like for example, I'm not a
killer long hit or anything, but I can put like
a mofo. I got a game down in the short game. Now,
I like flop shots when I'm close to the green
and a nice long put with this beautiful butter I got.
And but I take my six iron out and I

(50:57):
just got to whang it down there one seventy five
or something and it just kind of just comes off
the tea and I So anyway, I'm my golf club
is up in where I live in the mountains, and
so it's only seasonal. I don't get to play ants
I want, but I get a lot of terms. I'm
going to the Waste Management Open tomorrow. Are you prepared
to go to the Waste Management Open? Been here? I have?

(51:19):
I've not been there. I have not been there. And
I'm going to the sixteenth tea, which is where the
madness happens. It's the craziest hole in Gulf on the
PGA Tour. It's nuts. I don't even play golf, and
I know about the sixteenth hole at the Waste Management
to the madness that goes. It's Waste Management Tournament and
the super Bowl in Phoenix about that, it's gonna be
a crazy scared I have to go. I'm going to

(51:42):
do a gig there for the super I'm scared to
get them. Scared of people, the crowds, and the traffic
and the Starbucks and god forbid, I need to catch
an uber Like that's what I'm afraid of. I'm like,
I'm afraid of, you know, when these cities get taken
over the that's just like it's almost too much super
Bowl and oh my god, and then well they're both

(52:05):
gonna well one ends on Sunday and the other one
starts on Sunday, so I don't know, but the week
before it's just the show. I mean, I've been to Florida,
I've been all the I've been all kinds of places
in Florida. They always do it, but it becomes crazy,
doesn't It's scary when you're on a golf course playing
and people see you. What's the reaction. Most people are cool, shooter,

(52:28):
good to see any good, and I just, you know,
it's like walking down the airport catching the train and
playing your people. God shoot, they shore me shooter jackass
and I'll just you know, do that kind of thing,
and they're just like they love it. It's just an
easy thing. They never told me why they would call
them shoot him Gavin by the way, and I thought,
what the heck, I know, I'll get off the t No,
that's stupid. That's what Gilmore does. I'll shoot my putts.

(52:50):
I'll be an excellent putter, and I'll just bang the
guns out. That was your thing. So that was my thing. Yeah,
and that was so funny because that's what people love,
that kind of like thing. Let me tell you on
Chris that character. And I imagine you're like, Okay, it's
twenty five years ago, that character. When I just mentioned
to the few people that I was having on the podcast,

(53:11):
that character. And you know this because you experience it
as a person who's done it in your firsthand. But
it's almost like Mickey Mouse in terms of the joy
that it has given people. That's really funny. And I know,
I'm sure there's a party that's like, Okay, I want
to I want another Shooter, I want another iconic thing.
But just never forget as an actor to create something

(53:33):
that is pure joy. Well you've given to the world
as fans, is something that like I'm sure something like
you're probably like, I'm sick of tires four in the
morning at the airport and it's like Shooter and you're like,
but it is. I mean when I told people I
got Chris they're like shooting McGavin. I'm like, yeah, I
got the fucking shooter on the Iron Wrapp Reports stereo podcast.

(53:55):
That's really funny to me because it has been five years.
It twenty five years six. Actually, yeah, Adam, Adam did
this thing where he get dead shoot. Remember that thing
where he did I said, what the hell? My boss
called me, I gotta do something. I went, yeah, but
I'm so far from golf. I'll put it. I'll put
it in my house, but it would stupid viral. But

(54:15):
it's all I think a lot of it has to
do with Adam Sandler followers. I mean, they love them.
They love this movie. They love a lot of his movies,
but this one stands out. And and I would be lying.
I said, it's not the most popular thing I've ever done.
I've done a hundred something movies. It's just a sports
movie and it's a field gun. You love to hate
this guy. You love the fact that this is this
villain super villain is such a thorn in this side

(54:38):
of the underdog, and so does you know it's a
great ending and all that stuff. It never would happen
in real life because they they would they would give
it him a break, you know, and I would never
have to hit it off of Frankistein's fat foot, of
course they would, you know, give it take a little
drop over here, that kind of thing. Um you I
I saw a picture of Tiger Woods and you. Yeah.
I have seen Tiger Wood in photographs thousands of times.

(55:03):
I've never seen that many teeth. You noticed that too.
Tiger Woods was elated to see it was good lighting
on the side of me because his teeth were like
because he was so Tiger Woods was happier to meet you,
probably than we've ever seen him happy in his life.
There's pictures of him at the birth of his kid.
He's happy, he's he's he's obviously happy. But that picture

(55:25):
with you and in his head because in his head
he's he's thinking I'm with Shooter fucking McGavin, like you're like,
like you could have like Tiger Woods would have done
anything for you, like Tiger go get my car find me,
like he would have done anything for you. He was elated. No,
I don't think it's I think here's the thing we're doing.
This little thing called p G A Core two ky three.

(55:49):
Now it's that live video game you know where you
play and they have you know, avatar guys playing you.
So we were we were promoting that. I was down
at his glob medalist in Flow. Hard to that we
we saw each other. But he is a very cool dude.
He was very happy to meet me. Yes, but he
is He's smooth as glass. He is just had. He's

(56:09):
one of the biggest icons in the world, not just
for golf, just because he's Tiger Tiger freaking Woods and
his son Charlie's on fire now and I'm so happy
for him. At the same time, it's hard. You see
your heartbreaking when he's walking across the bridge for you know,
because I'll never actually get back there to win that again.
But the legend that is Tiger Woods, it's it's a
it's great to be in his company. Um, Chris, I

(56:34):
don't know what to say. I sincerely appreciate you coming
on the podt my pleasure, Michael, this is so much fun. Um,
I would love one day. Did we get to work together? Now,
let's do that. We share the same great manager in
Danny Sussman. What the hell we need to put here?
He really needs to be the one in front of
the camera. He'll sit here talking about his giants and
I'll tell you what you know. Don't get me stunted.

(56:55):
I appreciate you on the Iron Wrap for Stereo Podcast.
I wish you nothing but the best, and I would
love to work with you someday. Continue kicking ass uh
and continue doing your thing. Thank you Michael for having me.
And it's an honor to be sitting here with you.
And let's work together, pally, Definitely do this, definitely all
right bool. I want to thank Chris McDonald the shooter

(57:17):
shooting McGavin for taking the time breaking down his career,
breaking down some of his greatest moments as an actor.
Excellent excellent podcast. I'm So proud is tell a friend
to tell a friend Miles journk the breach, buts ok
the dust. Let's take me out of with something real nice.
Take me out of here with something real loud, but
most important, to take me out of here with something
real funky. I am wrapped for Stereo podcast. I'm Out

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