Demi Adejuyigbe Disobeys Bridger

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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Presence and I'm already too much stuff, So how do
you dan to surbey me?

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escorted out of the theater. I don't know who cares.
Let's get into the show. I everybody atdoors. Today's guest,
it's Demi add Juebay. Welcome to I said no gifts.
Thank you so much for having me.

Speaker 3 (03:26):
How are you?

Speaker 4 (03:27):
Is there a new little house on the prairie or
is this a thing? Okay, I'm just curious. I had
a lot of questions through that intro and I was like, interrupt,
but I would love to.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
Know there is a new one coming up. By mistake,
we just started rewatching the old one. My boyfriend and
I had never seen mist well, not like I slipped
on a banana fiel. No, I wasn't aware that the
new one was coming up, that they were rebooting the show,
and we were out of things to watch because there's

(03:56):
nothing left to watch on television.

Speaker 3 (03:59):
They've run out.

Speaker 2 (03:59):
It's clean. But I thought, let's try watching this, and
he had watched the entire thing, and so he was
excited to watch it again. And now we're I mean,
we've been watching for months and we're not done with
season one.

Speaker 3 (04:10):
Oh my god, how well we're slow TV watchers.

Speaker 2 (04:14):
I think last night we watched episode twenty three of
season one.

Speaker 3 (04:17):
There are a lot of episodes in.

Speaker 4 (04:18):
Beautiful What TV used to be more than twenty three.

Speaker 2 (04:22):
It's eight.

Speaker 3 (04:23):
Now we've gotten to eight. Yeah, ten is a rare thing.

Speaker 4 (04:26):
Ten is like a oh they had money and like
several a lists startingtechs.

Speaker 2 (04:30):
Yeah, yeah, they had everything going for them. Thirteen it's
unheard of. Yeah, eight and then six you think, well,
they didn't really have an idea.

Speaker 5 (04:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (04:39):
Six is they didn't believe in it, but someone's son
wanted to do it.

Speaker 2 (04:42):
They needed to do something to cover six hours of tvage. Yeah,
but Little House. I think it went for like ten seasons.
It's probably like three hundred episodes.

Speaker 5 (04:52):
So wild.

Speaker 4 (04:53):
I couldn't tell you a single thing about that show,
even though I know it's a phenomenon. But I'm like,
I do love that. That's how TV used to be.
It's like there's an audience. Oh yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (05:03):
That was probably one of nine shows on TV at
the time. Yeah, you grew up in Texas, so and
I grew up in Utah and growing up in Utah
I and the show was before my time anyway, But
like reruns, I was never interested in. I was like, well,
that just feels like basically what I'm living in deserty landscape.

Speaker 3 (05:20):
So I avoided it. But now it's so enjoyable.

Speaker 5 (05:23):
Does it feel I don't. I don't. The show isn't
set and you tie it.

Speaker 2 (05:26):
No, it's set in Minnesota but shot in Santa Clarita, California.

Speaker 4 (05:31):
Of course, Now when you watch it, do you feel
like it reminds you of like the area you grew
up in.

Speaker 2 (05:39):
Yeah, a little bit, but then it's it's kind of
almost a weird realm of where do where are they?
Because they're in the desert, but it's supposed to be
Minnesota often in winter, but it's like the wind is blowing,
it looks very hot. But the things you get out
of the show are the actors actually driving the wagon,

(05:59):
actors on horses, the same actor that you see on
within the scenes, and then a lot of you know, raccoons, rats, bats, Yeah,
all sorts of wild marm and none of its special effects.
It's just creatures that they've brought in, beautiful chickens roaming.

Speaker 4 (06:14):
Before they were like, oh, we probably can't do this
because we can't control these animals.

Speaker 5 (06:18):
Right.

Speaker 2 (06:19):
Yeah, I feel like the new one is going to
drop the ball in a lot of ways.

Speaker 5 (06:22):
Certainly they're going to do like drone spins.

Speaker 2 (06:27):
I get a drone intro to the show. I'm done.
And they're not going to put a child on a horse. No,
they're not even put an adult on a horse.

Speaker 4 (06:35):
They'll shoot it from away where you're like, okay, that's
just like they're being pushed in a parking lot, back
and forth, and then they'll go to a wide and
it'll be clearly like an adult small woman from behind,
like doing the bugy.

Speaker 3 (06:46):
Motion, which has its merits.

Speaker 2 (06:48):
I suppose and they're all but they are shooting in Canada,
so I which everything now is done as well, But
this actually makes sense because that will look like Minnesota. Okay, yeah,
you know, so maybe it'll get a few things right.

Speaker 3 (07:01):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (07:01):
I probably won't watch it. I've got the rest of
the show to watch.

Speaker 5 (07:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (07:06):
Cut to ten years from now, you're like, well, we
finished the old one season, we start the new one.
It's on season two.

Speaker 2 (07:13):
That's not a bad idea. Within ten years, maybe this
new one will have aged so much that it.

Speaker 3 (07:17):
Will feel like a throwback.

Speaker 5 (07:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (07:19):
And by then they'll be making one episode a season
of each TV show and we'll be like, wow, remember
when they used to make eight?

Speaker 4 (07:25):
Yeah, oh what happened? Now Ryan Murphy gets to make two.
I can't wait to be like, oh remember Netflix.

Speaker 2 (07:32):
Oh I actually can't wait to say that.

Speaker 5 (07:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (07:36):
Right, you were just in Australia, which I was talking about.

Speaker 3 (07:40):
Yeah, were you all over the country? What was going on?

Speaker 5 (07:43):
I was?

Speaker 4 (07:43):
I feel like I was localized to like just I
was in three cities in Australia, and then I went
to New Zealand. I went to Sydney, Adelaide over to
Auckland and then to Melbourne. Okay, so not too much
of Australia. I felt bad because it's like, there's the
entire East Coast and like up on the West Coast
that I really wanted to visit.

Speaker 5 (08:01):
But I also was like, I'm here for.

Speaker 3 (08:02):
A month, right, and it's a massive country.

Speaker 5 (08:06):
Huge country.

Speaker 4 (08:07):
I also didn't like people were like, oh, any spiders
and snakes. It's like no, I was in the city everywhere,
so I didn't see any of that, not even like
a small spider.

Speaker 3 (08:16):
Did you get to see a kangaroo at any point?

Speaker 4 (08:18):
I saw kangaroo in New Zealand because I was in
New Zealand and I was like, well, I want to
go to the zoo. I want to see some wildlife.
But yeah, I saw kangaroo, I saw some EMUs. I
feel like I got the full tour of Australian wildlife
in New Zealand.

Speaker 2 (08:31):
Okay, how was your experience of Australia in general. I've
never been there. I feel like it.

Speaker 3 (08:37):
To me, I'm like, oh, it's California, the country.

Speaker 5 (08:39):
It kind of is.

Speaker 4 (08:40):
That makes sense. Yeah, i'd never been either, and I
really loved it. I'd spend a lot of time in
New Zealand because I used to date a woman who
lived down there, but I had never been to Australia proper.

Speaker 5 (08:49):
And I again, I.

Speaker 4 (08:50):
Was in the city, and I feel like I was
so engrossed in just doing the show that I kind
of didn't explore too much.

Speaker 5 (08:57):
But I really really liked it.

Speaker 4 (08:59):
It is like if California was a city that was
more walkable, I had better ways to get around without
a car, right, But I guess Los Angeles more than
California as a whole. But I really enjoyed it. I
feel like everyone I met was so lovely and just Yeah.
I kept describing it as like I felt like I
was going to space. But it's not that the place

(09:19):
is very very different. It's just like every little thing
is like two steps away from what I'm used to
it being right, usually in the way that it's more
convenient or more like, oh that makes more sense when
you'd be inventing this thing, but right, so.

Speaker 2 (09:32):
It's just like two inches into another reality. Yes, that
sounds nice.

Speaker 5 (09:36):
It was very nice. I miss it. I want to
go back.

Speaker 2 (09:38):
How are you getting from city to city just flying?
Flying short flights?

Speaker 5 (09:42):
Though?

Speaker 2 (09:43):
Okay, did you have the food. I imagine it is good.
That's the other thing where I feel like everything has
so much sunshine. This is an idiot's view of a country.

Speaker 4 (09:51):
I mean, I'm an idiot who went there, and I
think my videos views the same.

Speaker 5 (09:55):
I did like the food.

Speaker 4 (09:57):
I couldn't put a handle on what Australian food was, right.
But I think it's like when you go to the
UK and it's just like, well, what's the great food here?
It's like Indian food and it's like other culture's food.
Right of colonization. This is what we brought back, and
I'm like, you know what, that's fine, that's all good.

Speaker 2 (10:10):
I feel like the only food I can really associate
with Australia is breakfast food. Yeah, because whenever I go
to a country, like when I was in Italy or whatever,
the best breakfast I would ever eat was at an
Australian right place was it would it be like toast
and like veggie mite or marmite, or it'd be like
it just very like generic idea of brunch in a

(10:31):
good way, you know, avocado and good bread and eggs
and bacon.

Speaker 4 (10:35):
I do feel yeah, they got like good, Like you said,
bread and eggs, and like, I wonder what it is
about breakfast because I'm like, I feel like the countries
I associate with like strong good breakfasts are either like
like European places like the UK, or like Whales or
like Australia.

Speaker 2 (10:54):
Very like hearty. Yeah, I wonder is it like countries
where they have a lot of miners, maybe because they
got they gotta fill up in the morning.

Speaker 5 (11:02):
Yeah, you gotta sos them up.

Speaker 2 (11:04):
Yeah, that's yeah, And there are other countries. Often when
you're traveling you find out most people don't care about breakfast.

Speaker 4 (11:10):
Yes, no, I I felt, which is comforting to me
as someone who here does not really eat breakfast.

Speaker 3 (11:16):
You're kidding. I hate to hear this. You hate to
hit your big breakfast head.

Speaker 2 (11:19):
I don't understand how people don't do it.

Speaker 4 (11:21):
I don't do it because I wake up too late,
and also because I feel like growing up, I was
just like all right, I'll just go off and then
it's like at a certain point you're like really hungry,
and then it's lunchtime, and much is so much more
satisfying because it's like, whoa, I've been waiting for this, right,
But I also it's largely that I wake.

Speaker 2 (11:34):
Up too late, right, so do like you wake up
and you have a coffee and leave.

Speaker 4 (11:39):
I don't even have a coffee most of the time
with you several things, but it's mostly the time it's
I I didn't until very recently start drinking coffee. And
even then it's not like a thing. It's like a
this will be a fun treat. And occasionally it's just
like a chai latte, which as no capture.

Speaker 5 (11:53):
But yeah, no, I don't. I don't know.

Speaker 4 (11:54):
My day just A lot of the problem is also
like without a job, my day starts when it's like, well,
what do I have to do?

Speaker 2 (12:01):
Right?

Speaker 4 (12:02):
So I wake up and be like like for this
it was like, okay, well the things at noon, So
I'm going to wake up at eleven and then eventually
I'll be there. But I, yeah, I've never really drink
coffee routinely or had breakfast, and I do wonder if
my life would be so much better if I did.
It's hard to say. It might be worse, way worse.
That's so true, and I'm going to live in that reality.

(12:23):
So I feel good about my own.

Speaker 2 (12:24):
So have you had lunch today? It's kind of lunch.

Speaker 4 (12:26):
I have not have I had anything to I had
a handful of skittles before I came here because I
left them on my counter and then was walking around.

Speaker 5 (12:35):
I was like, oh, okay, yeah, so I'm good.

Speaker 2 (12:38):
Like I feel like we should bring in some sort
of dairy product.

Speaker 4 (12:42):
Now, because then I'm going to really earn dinner another
handful of skittles.

Speaker 2 (12:46):
Do you do?

Speaker 3 (12:48):
You have big dinners?

Speaker 2 (12:49):
Do you like? Because dinner for me is the grand
prize and it needs to be special.

Speaker 5 (12:54):
I don't, but I do.

Speaker 4 (12:56):
I love cooking and I love like being in the kitchen,
So I feel like there are times where it's like
I will prepare for the day by going like, Okay,
what are we having for dinner today?

Speaker 5 (13:04):
That's what I'm going to be like building towards.

Speaker 4 (13:07):
And it's more exciting when it's like I live with
someone or I'm dating someone, because it's like, great, I'll
cook for both of us. When it's just me, I'm
like whatever, I'll throw some shit in the pan.

Speaker 2 (13:14):
Right, like a thing that you really put care into.
It's like, well, this is just going into the void. Yeah,
someone should be able to witness it.

Speaker 5 (13:20):
I'm not impressed who cares.

Speaker 4 (13:21):
I don't want to eat anything, but if it's someone else,
it's like vo la la a steak.

Speaker 3 (13:26):
Of course, yeah, of course.

Speaker 2 (13:31):
Going back to your trip just momentarily, because the thing
that's keeping me from that part of the world is
the air travel.

Speaker 3 (13:37):
How long is that flight it is? I want to say,
sixteen hours. Walk me through how you survive that sort
of thing.

Speaker 4 (13:45):
I'm very good at sleeping on airplanes, oh yeah, which
I've heard is a sign that I have very bad
sleep patterns in real life, which.

Speaker 2 (13:53):
Is oh yeah, sounds like it was just the eleven
o'clock waking up.

Speaker 5 (13:56):
Mm hmm, that'll do it.

Speaker 4 (13:57):
I also I have narcolepsy, so I feel like there's
also a little bit of like I can fall.

Speaker 3 (14:01):
Asleep, right, It could just happen at any point.

Speaker 4 (14:03):
Yeah, I don't even have to be like they'll be
like it's one hour flat. I'm like, I'm sleeping on
that plane. Don't worry.

Speaker 3 (14:07):
Oh I'm so jealous of that.

Speaker 5 (14:08):
Don't be. My neck is not happy about it.

Speaker 4 (14:11):
It's such a It's the thing is to sleep on
any plane, even if you're like people be like you
just got to fly first class.

Speaker 5 (14:15):
I'm like first of all, shut up.

Speaker 2 (14:17):
Yeah, that's not a solution. You do not talk about
that like that's an easy thing to do.

Speaker 5 (14:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (14:22):
But even it's like there have been times where I'm like, oh,
I'm having this long flat, I'm gonna sploil, I'm gonna
go first class, and I'm like, it's nice to lie
down flat. You are still contained to this small box, right,
that's not really a bed, No, it's really not. And
like if you're like, oh, I want to bend my knees,
it's like, okay, well you're bending your knees into the
side of a very hard, like plastic container. But I
I will just sort of like roll up a blanket

(14:43):
and put it against the window and complain and like
sort of shift every hour, and then it's like that's
half of the flight you've covered because I can't sleep
for too long, right, And then what I do is
I go through Actually a lot of times it's the
other way around. Sometimes on a flight, I will just
go through like the the in flight thing and be like,
all right, here's every movie that I'm interested in watching,
and then I'll fall asleep. And sometimes it's like I

(15:03):
don't get to watch those movies and sometimes it's like,
all right, we'll still got eight hours, let's see what
we got, and it's just like going through and be
like all right, sure, twister, Okay, this now Charlie Wilson's War, why.

Speaker 3 (15:14):
Not that's a real airplane?

Speaker 4 (15:16):
Yeah, that is based on the real movie that I
watched on my flight to Australia.

Speaker 3 (15:22):
That film was made to watch on an airplane.

Speaker 5 (15:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (15:25):
I think Aaron Sorkin's mad if he learns that you
watched it in theaters or on DVD.

Speaker 3 (15:28):
He campaign for that not to be in movie.

Speaker 2 (15:30):
Yeah. He wanted us straight to plane movie. Yeah, somebody
should have. Somebody's got to do that at some point.
Straight to plane movielane mo.

Speaker 5 (15:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (15:37):
American Airlines got to form like a studio where it's like, well,
fund any movie that's under a million dollars, knowing that
it won't make any money.

Speaker 5 (15:44):
It's just gonna go straight to plane.

Speaker 2 (15:45):
And it needs to be highly emotionally manipulative. Yeah wow, Charlie.

Speaker 5 (15:49):
And it cannot have a plane crashing for many reasons.

Speaker 2 (15:52):
But oh lord, yeah I watched We went to Japan
and in April and like three days before we watched
the first episode of the reheard so the new rehearsal,
which is all about planes crashing.

Speaker 3 (16:03):
It's it was a very difficult time for me.

Speaker 5 (16:06):
Imagine, are you not good at plane travel?

Speaker 2 (16:08):
I've gotten so bad at it. Oh God, I get
worse and worse with each flight. It feels like eventually
I'm not I'm gonna not be able to get on
a plane.

Speaker 5 (16:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (16:15):
I don't know what's wrong with Did something trigger it
or is it just time?

Speaker 2 (16:18):
And I guess just time? And yeah, I think the
news recently, but within the last two years, it feels
like every time turbulence begins, I just absolutely freak out.

Speaker 4 (16:28):
I honestly, I feel like I used to be like
I'd be like field turbulence and be like none I
can do bad it and just be like I would
accept death almost Ye, what can I do? And I
was flying to I think it was from Des Moines, Iowa.
And we had like a layover in Las Vegas. And
the flight from Vegas to Burbank is like fifty minutes,
shouldn't be too bad. There was turbulence on that plane

(16:50):
that was so bad. I was truly just like, why
is no one else everyone else seems fucking calm?

Speaker 5 (16:55):
What's going on? Are we we must be dead already.

Speaker 4 (16:57):
I just like, I was like, I felt bad that
no one else reacting, And I was texting because my
ex has a big fear of flying, and I was
texting just like, Okay, I feel like I feel what
you're feeling. I don't understand what's going on. I understand
what's going on, and I think the worst part is
no one else was reacting. So I was just like,
I'm crazy, what's going And that was the first time
and I was like, do I have a fear of flying?

Speaker 5 (17:16):
What's going on?

Speaker 2 (17:17):
Yeah? I will often look around and be like, Okay,
if no one else is panicking, maybe it's fine, or
maybe I'm right right, there's no idea. Yeah, it's a terrible,
terrible feeling. But yeah, I feel like there's nothing I
could do to solve that other than certain people say
take a xanax. But then I think, what if, for
whatever reason, it reacts poorly in my system and then

(17:38):
I'm really freaking.

Speaker 4 (17:39):
Out right, And what if it's like, oh, something's going
wrong and I'm out of control of my body?

Speaker 2 (17:44):
Right, So then well then I guess it's everybody else's problem. Yeah,
get me deal with Yeah, I get to go viral.
All kinds of things are happening. That's really what it's
all about. Yeah, it could be good for you having
a plane meltdown, go viral.

Speaker 4 (17:56):
A friend of mine also has a newly a new
found fear of flying, and it didn't help that he
went on a flight once. I think it was actually
it was a flight that happened. It was like we
were in San Francisco for Sketch Fest when Kobe Bryant
died a helicopter crash, and I think on the flight
back from that, he experienced turbulence and someone else on

(18:18):
the plane said this isn't normal and freaked out, and
I think that made him just go like okay, I yeah,
I can't do this anymore. Awful fi, yeah, really bad.

Speaker 2 (18:29):
I was in the Target parking lot when I found
out about Coe.

Speaker 3 (18:32):
Yes, it's it's.

Speaker 4 (18:34):
It was weird because I remember someone saying it, and
that's being like, what a weird joke, and then seeing
everyone just be like get on their phones and be like.

Speaker 5 (18:40):
Oh shit, oh shit.

Speaker 3 (18:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (18:42):
It's so strange to like have a strong memory of
where you are when someone famous dies, right, Like I
remember Michael Jackson died and I was at home and
I was like, this seems wrong.

Speaker 5 (18:52):
I don't think so.

Speaker 4 (18:53):
And I went over the like the like sort of
upper balcony railing at my parents' house and just went
mom and she's like, yeah, Michael Jackson died, and she
was like, oh no, and like that's just I just
remember being like, that's not too strong of a reaction,
and then I just remember the rest of the day
was me just looking at news and reactions to being
like this is wild, this is this is really insane.

Speaker 1 (19:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (19:15):
That I was working at overstock dot com. Yeah, I
remember I was copywriting and I find out Michael Jackson
died and it was a weird feeling because he was
such a complicated person. It was like I don't know
what to think about this. Yeah, also young death ish
young ish, Yeah, but we were all doing something and
just kind of I don't know what the react the

(19:36):
appropriate reaction was at that time.

Speaker 3 (19:38):
Yeah, maybe other than confusion.

Speaker 4 (19:41):
For me, it was just sort of like, what do
you mean how Like I feel like whenever someone dies
in an age that isn't like natural death of ninety,
I'm just like, must have been some weird freak accident.
It must have been like they they got hit by
a car, like it saw yeah, d I'm doing a pivot.
I'm gonna do carpentry, and and mediate was like, oh,
never mind, I shouldn't have done that.

Speaker 2 (20:02):
He was framing a new room in his house. Or
I remember where I was when Princess Die died. We
were all the family was in my dad's truck on
our way to what is now Jamba Juice, but at
the time it was called Zuka Juice, Zuka Juice in Utah.
But then I got bought out by Jamba Juice.

Speaker 5 (20:22):
I believe. Oh so it was a separate, okay.

Speaker 3 (20:24):
Separate thing.

Speaker 2 (20:25):
I think Zuka Juice must have been like whoever, I'm
sure whoever opened that visited a Jamba juice elsewhere and
then came back and was like, we got to do
let's do a Zuka juice. We were on our way
to Zuka Juice to get a smoothie. Princess Die is dead,
that's uh. And I think that's the only other celebrity
I can remember dying. What other big celebrities have passed?

(20:46):
I remember where I was when day This is such
a pleasant topic for everyone. Yeah, I was in Kettle
Glazed Donuts when I found out David Bowie had died
six am.

Speaker 5 (20:54):
Six am. Yeah, that's well, you seem like an early riser.

Speaker 2 (20:58):
No, but at the time I was working at Jimmy Kimmel.
We had we started working at seven am. Yeah, so
I would go there and get as much coffee as possible.

Speaker 4 (21:05):
And then was that a thing where you're like, shit,
how do we cover this on Kimmel now?

Speaker 2 (21:09):
No, I think that I can't remember how it was
covered that day. That's a great question. I don't I
assume there was at some point someone said something tasteful,
or we just didn't cover it at all, or maybe
we were pre taping or something.

Speaker 3 (21:21):
I don't know. Hard to say, I remember I was.

Speaker 4 (21:24):
I don't remember where I was when I found out
and he died, but I do remember that the previous night,
we were playing a game and my friend drew the
name David Bowie and was like, sorry, I don't know
who this guy is.

Speaker 5 (21:33):
We were all like, what what are you talking to?

Speaker 2 (21:36):
He killed David Bowie?

Speaker 4 (21:37):
Yeah, he killed David Bowie. He was like, I'm so
annoyed of them. I'll talk about this guy. I'm going
to kill him. He's dead now.

Speaker 5 (21:44):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (21:45):
David Bowie really felt like psychic damage to wake up
and be like, what the fuck?

Speaker 5 (21:49):
How did he? What are you kidding? We were just
talking about him.

Speaker 2 (21:51):
What was the game you were playing?

Speaker 5 (21:54):
Do you know Fishbowl? Some people call it Celebrity?

Speaker 3 (21:57):
Oh? Of course our friend Ellen.

Speaker 5 (21:59):
Oh oh yes, our friend Ellen, the inventor of.

Speaker 2 (22:02):
Games, the first person to have fun. Yeah, as far
as I know, she taught me it was okay to
have fun and to dance. She unlocked dance for me. Yeah.
It is funny to think that there might be someone
for whom that is true. That's a lot of people,
and I think that's actually very sweet. Outside of the
Ellen of it all, I'm just like, I do think
it's sweet. It's just like this lady who dances on

(22:24):
TV and she seems like she's having so much fun.

Speaker 5 (22:25):
I'm gonna do it.

Speaker 2 (22:26):
Yes, I think that person's heart was probably broken later.
But Ellen's trying to make a comeback. I just learned yesterday.
Is she she's in England selling our house, sure, and
wants to get back to daytime.

Speaker 4 (22:36):
I see she's staging a comeback. In that case, I
take back everything I've ever said. Ellen, I'd love to
work for you. I love to work for you. I
was joking every time I've said it online, I've been joking.

Speaker 2 (22:46):
We're all kidding out.

Speaker 5 (22:48):
We're all kidding you love jokes.

Speaker 3 (22:49):
We have so many game ideas.

Speaker 2 (22:51):
Yeah, reach out, Ellen, degenerous, reach out. This be the
start of your comeback.

Speaker 5 (22:57):
Yes, yeah, come on the show.

Speaker 2 (23:00):
I will read the list of accusations.

Speaker 5 (23:02):
And you can deny each one piece by piece.

Speaker 3 (23:05):
Did you see any of her recent special?

Speaker 4 (23:08):
I saw clips of it because my my friend Kevin T.

Speaker 5 (23:11):
Porters is the sort of impetus for.

Speaker 2 (23:14):
One of the craziest things that's ever happened.

Speaker 5 (23:16):
Unbelievable.

Speaker 4 (23:16):
For Kevin to be the Hannibal Buris of Ellen's downfall
is psychotic. And I saw that it is essentially her
just going like they came for me, and just like
the opening of it being like the tweet being blurred
and like.

Speaker 2 (23:30):
Oh his tweet, that's right, I totally forget his is
in the special.

Speaker 4 (23:34):
Being censored, the charity stuff being just like cut out
and be like that's not that's not part of it.
But and then also her getting series of applause breaks
from people just being like yes, yes, you're the victim. Yeah,
which I think is so funny. But I didn't see
any of the jokes.

Speaker 3 (23:50):
Yeah, I think I probably saw one or two of
the jokes.

Speaker 2 (23:52):
I watched just the beginning, and it's like, well, like,
why would I watch any more of this?

Speaker 3 (23:57):
But we wish the best.

Speaker 5 (23:58):
Yes, yeah, Ellen, we miss you.

Speaker 3 (24:00):
Get back on your feet. Ellen, dust yourself.

Speaker 5 (24:02):
Don't let the haters take you down, or your coworkers.

Speaker 2 (24:07):
Or anyone else that you want to scream at.

Speaker 5 (24:09):
Yeah, don't let anyone tell you that's wrong.

Speaker 2 (24:14):
Well, speaking of inappropriate behavior, I was excited to have
you here on the podcast today. I thought, Demy will
come by, we'll have a nice time, we'll move on
with our days. The podcast is called I said no gifts,
So I was a little surprised, a little throwne. You know,
you've been around the block with podcasts. Uh. You showed

(24:36):
up holding what is obviously a gift, which I assume
is for me.

Speaker 4 (24:40):
I misread. Oh I thought it was. I said no
gift like with a comma. Oh right right, Yeah, I'm okay.
This is so embarrassing.

Speaker 3 (24:54):
That feels like an easy mistake to make.

Speaker 5 (24:56):
I agree, So let's all let's not let's not go
ellen on me. But I did. I did, in fact
bring you some gifts.

Speaker 3 (25:04):
Okay, Yeah, should I open it here on the podcast?

Speaker 2 (25:07):
I mean if you want to, sure, fine, It's in
this delicious little blue bag.

Speaker 3 (25:14):
Yea cuny. I love this type of paper.

Speaker 5 (25:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (25:17):
I was like, I'm going on a podcast. I want
something that makes a lot.

Speaker 3 (25:20):
Of noise, Yes, as much noise as possible.

Speaker 5 (25:24):
And that's the gift. There's nothing insight, it's just it's
a plaything. Yeah, it's asmr.

Speaker 2 (25:29):
Let me reach in here. It feels like there are
multiple things there are, doesn't matter what order I take it.

Speaker 4 (25:34):
I would say, the first thing you maybe want to
be careful with because it might get on your hands.

Speaker 2 (25:38):
Oh boy, I'm touching something that may be getting all
over my fingers. I'm gonna I'm just gonna pull it
out and see it for it.

Speaker 4 (25:47):
Oh, it's a mini key lime pie that I made.

Speaker 2 (25:52):
That I've just put my fingers right into. Look at that,
and I will say, there's also a hair in it?

Speaker 5 (25:58):
Is there a hair in it?

Speaker 2 (26:01):
Is that a hair or a crack?

Speaker 5 (26:03):
Wait?

Speaker 4 (26:03):
Let me see you inspect. I do think that is
a hair. And what's worse, I think it is a
cat hair. It is a distinctly a hair with a gradient. Okay,
so that's totally fine. I assume your cat my cat. Yes, well,
I'll have to eat it at some point. At some point,
maybe we could get a fork or something, and here

(26:24):
you can eat around the hair, eat around the hair.
My cat's pretty clean. I've lived in homes with all
sorts of pets.

Speaker 5 (26:29):
There you go.

Speaker 2 (26:30):
I assume anyone who's had a cat or dog has
consumed at least a pound of dog fur.

Speaker 5 (26:35):
I do believe so, and then even more on accident.

Speaker 2 (26:37):
Oh yeah, by accident, yeah, of course, on purpose, the
amount of furs handless, Yeah, but by accident at least
one or two strands.

Speaker 4 (26:45):
I mean, that's what the dinner we were talking about
is a lot of cats, A lot of cat.

Speaker 2 (26:48):
For Yeah, well, I want to talk about cats and
key lime pie. But are you making a lot of
these little pies?

Speaker 5 (26:55):
I make a lot of pies in general.

Speaker 4 (26:57):
The other day I made a pie for a friend
who was moving away temporarily, and I have all of
these tiny little gram cracker crusts, and I just had
extra Keylan pie feeling.

Speaker 5 (27:06):
So I was like, let me just make extra and
I've just been ghishing them out.

Speaker 3 (27:11):
How long have you been making pies for?

Speaker 4 (27:13):
I have been someone who likes to bake all my life,
but I feel like pies have been pretty recent, Like
I would say, in the pandemic, when everyone's getting into baking,
I was like, what's the thing I can bake that
I can also distribute to friends? And pies and cakes
felt like a thing where it's like, oh, it's a
friend's birthday. I can go and drop this off and
say hi to them and talk to them. But it's
also just so I think pies are things that can

(27:33):
be made easily and feel like the ratio of difficulty
to the amount of exuberance people feeling is like, it's
just like you've done this.

Speaker 3 (27:44):
Huge things like a miracle.

Speaker 2 (27:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (27:45):
I'm like around hard, but I love to do it.

Speaker 4 (27:47):
I love to follow the instructions, Thank you so much,
instructions of someone having putting them online, and they just
like I've made a thing.

Speaker 5 (27:55):
I've done science right right.

Speaker 4 (27:57):
Yeah, And also there's certain It's like the amount of
that you can decorate a pie is so fun when
it's like a apple or rubar pie, and you do
like lattice.

Speaker 2 (28:06):
Yeah, we're cutting a shape out of it. Yes, what
was the first pie you made?

Speaker 4 (28:10):
I think the first pie made was probably like it's
a standard apple pie.

Speaker 3 (28:15):
Oh okay, that feels like kind of high level difficulty.

Speaker 5 (28:18):
I don't think I was doing like lattice or anything.

Speaker 4 (28:19):
I think it was just like I'm just going to
put the crust on top and have it and I'm
sure it didn't turn out well.

Speaker 2 (28:25):
Yeah, are you making your own like pie crust? See
that's the reason I never try. I would try a
gram cracker crust. I get that. That makes sense to me,
And it's hard to screw up butter and gram cracker. Yes,
it's very Yeah, but with the pie crust, you know,
I feel like every recipe is almost threatening. You like,
if you don't do this, if you don't refrigerate the water,

(28:45):
blah blah refrigeration.

Speaker 4 (28:47):
It's like it's a lot of prep. It's you going.
It's you have to decide ahead of time that you're
going to make a pie from scratch. And it's been like, okay,
well I'm making a pie tomorrow, so it's day I'm
going to make a crust right, which is sometimes annoying,
especially when it's like make it in a circle and
then cut it in and it's like it crumbles sometimes huh.
But I just feel like it's another step and I'm like,
when there's more stuff I can do that's fun and

(29:07):
takes up time, and there's less I have to do
another thing?

Speaker 3 (29:10):
What a healthy attitude.

Speaker 5 (29:12):
I agree.

Speaker 2 (29:13):
My baking, I can't plan ahead. That's my big problem.
So the only thing I can ever make is a
cookie because that required that's just one thing.

Speaker 3 (29:20):
You do it and then you're done.

Speaker 4 (29:22):
I do love that though, where it's just like I
gotta bring something to sing, I'll make a cookie.

Speaker 2 (29:26):
Right, make a cookie every I mean, I really do
think if you make anything at home, people are going
to be like, Wow, what a life he's living. Yeah,
who is this renaissance man that he's able to do something.

Speaker 5 (29:38):
It's like, well, I'm not living in a life, which
is why I'm able to do.

Speaker 2 (29:40):
So much time. You have no idea what's your favorite
pie to make?

Speaker 4 (29:46):
So until very recently I had not had or made
key lime pie. I made it for a friend and
she's like, how have you not had this? You should
try a slice. And I tried it and I was like,
this is actually like I also rarely eat the things
that I'm baking. Sure it's for someone else, right, but
I really enjoyed that, and I feel like I've made
so many since. And then we'll make like whipped cream
and do little decorations on it, and I I like that.

(30:06):
But I also I do like like a strawberry rhubarb pie,
just because again the lattice work and getting put stuff on,
and I think it's so fun.

Speaker 3 (30:15):
What do we think rhubarb is?

Speaker 4 (30:17):
I nobody knows, and it is confusing. Every time my bikes,
I'm just like, this is a fruit. It's like a bitter.

Speaker 2 (30:23):
Fruit but also celery.

Speaker 4 (30:25):
Yeah. And also if you eat it raw, it's poisonous.

Speaker 3 (30:28):
Is that true?

Speaker 5 (30:29):
That is true?

Speaker 3 (30:30):
I feel like I've eaten raw rubarb.

Speaker 5 (30:32):
You're one of our strongest soldiers.

Speaker 2 (30:33):
Then I feel like it's a kid. I was obsessed
with raw rubarb really, yeah, because it's like sour.

Speaker 5 (30:39):
That's it is.

Speaker 2 (30:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (30:40):
I don't maybe it's if it's not cooked in a
certain I do.

Speaker 4 (30:43):
I feel like many a time, maybe it's like when
you're a child, everything is fine or it's like you
were getting sick and you're like, I don't know what
it is.

Speaker 2 (30:50):
Could explain a lot of things about my personality. Yeah,
they're like, there's nobody to know what this is. Keeps
you on that rhubarb yeah, because I feel like I
would eat it almost like celery. Yeah, and you usually
the only time you hear of rubarb is essentially in
a strawberry rubarb pie.

Speaker 5 (31:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (31:04):
And it feels like as no other use it's not.

Speaker 5 (31:06):
It's also like it's always it's with strawberry.

Speaker 2 (31:09):
Right.

Speaker 5 (31:09):
At a certain point, I'm like, it feels like this
should just be one fruit.

Speaker 2 (31:11):
Yeah, hybrid, Yeah, that feels like some straw straw barb
straw barb barbery barberry.

Speaker 3 (31:18):
The options are endless.

Speaker 2 (31:19):
It feels like somebody's got to start working on that,
although textually it might start to be a little bit
of a freak. YEA strawberries are I guess they both
have a snap though A good strawberry isn't like mushy.

Speaker 4 (31:29):
No, But I feel like the texture of a strawberry
on the outside is like that has the little seed dimples,
and I love that so much, and I'm not I'm like,
don't give it to rhubarb, rubarb.

Speaker 5 (31:37):
It's just flat. It's celery. It's like crunchy. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (31:40):
And to see all those little seeds in a long
celery stock would be unpleasant.

Speaker 3 (31:44):
Mortified.

Speaker 5 (31:45):
Yeah, so this is why they haven't done that.

Speaker 3 (31:47):
That's why you and I don't work for Monsanto.

Speaker 2 (31:50):
Yeah, but Monsanto does mon Santo do the sort of
thing make uh, genetic vegetables.

Speaker 4 (31:57):
I'm sure they are doing the GMO. It's like someone's like, no,
they don't, Mike will publicly probably.

Speaker 2 (32:02):
Yeah, they've got a real doctor Moreau. Is that the thing?

Speaker 3 (32:05):
Yes, Yeah, the island of Doctor Monsanto.

Speaker 4 (32:08):
They've got a basement where like someone's just whipping like
fruits that like got it, get back, get.

Speaker 2 (32:12):
Back, Okay, I need to I want to try this pie.
You don't have to if you don't want to. I
mean I've had We're gonna get it out of I'm
gonna get away from the.

Speaker 5 (32:22):
Hair if you must.

Speaker 2 (32:23):
If I'll save that for later. A little midnight snack.

Speaker 5 (32:27):
Do you have pets?

Speaker 2 (32:29):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (32:29):
I just started to ask a question right as you eat.

Speaker 2 (32:31):
So rude talk now. Oh that's good. Yeah, that's a
good lime flavor. Yeah, very tart, which I enjoy.

Speaker 4 (32:38):
I Also, the thing about a key lime pie is
when you buy the ingredients for one pie, it's like,
now you have the stuff to you just have a
bag of key limess.

Speaker 5 (32:47):
Right, so I will just be like, Okay, well who
wants pie?

Speaker 4 (32:49):
Everybody? I gotta make fucking four pies to make this
worth it.

Speaker 3 (32:53):
I'm drowning here right right.

Speaker 2 (32:55):
No, But to answer your question, we just got a
puppy about a month and a half ago and she's fantastic.

Speaker 3 (33:01):
You have it one cat.

Speaker 5 (33:02):
I do have one cat. I used to have a dog.
He was a senior dog.

Speaker 4 (33:05):
Every time I hear about someone getting a puppy, I'm
just like, I cannot imagine that.

Speaker 3 (33:09):
Well, that's that was my thought as well.

Speaker 2 (33:13):
We had a dog up until twenty twenty three and
she passed away and my boyfriend got her when she
was one, so she was young but not a puppy. Yeah,
and he came to her very well trained. Whoever had
had her before had done some training, so we like
it was just an easy as a cake walk with her.
And I've had a puppy, like as a kid, we
had a puppy, and I know that it's a process

(33:36):
you have to go through. It's a tough situation. And
I said absolutely no to a puppy. But then we
started going to shelters and stuff and trying to find
a dog, and eventually we found this picture of Bonnie
or dog, and it was just you know, of course
it's nature tricking you where it's like, look at this creature.
Of course you want it. And so we got her
and she's been fantastic. My boyfriend, I think, was a

(34:00):
little like I can't believe that she has energy. I
can't believe she wants to chew on things. Yeah, but
like as far as a puppy goes, she's been as
good as she possibly can because I did not want
to deal with a puppy and basically we haven't had to.

Speaker 3 (34:13):
She's huge though, yea.

Speaker 2 (34:15):
She started maybe this big, and she's I think thirty
thirty five pounds at this point, and she's gonna be
she's going to she's a Rottweiler, so she's gonna be
like eighty five pounds maybe.

Speaker 5 (34:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (34:26):
But it's fun when you have a puppy because you're like, oh,
I want I think this is This is also how
I felt when I had my first my sister had
her first daughter.

Speaker 3 (34:33):
I was like, oh, I want to know you at
every age.

Speaker 2 (34:35):
Yeah, so it's just like, oh, I don't care what
sizer or whatever you are.

Speaker 3 (34:38):
It's just I'm sure it'll be lovely the whole time.

Speaker 4 (34:41):
I do remember thinking, like with my dog, when I
got so attached to him, and just being like, I wish,
more than anything I can know who you were when
you were small. But also because I'm like, he was
so sweet and like never barked him. It was just
very nice and friendly to everyone, I'm like, how did
you get this way? What happened?

Speaker 2 (34:56):
So? But yeah, oh right, I mean the amount of
like Google and I came close to hiring a private
eye to get pictures of our past or old dog Eedy,
photos of her as a poppy.

Speaker 3 (35:07):
I was desperate to see pictures of this animal as
a baby.

Speaker 5 (35:10):
And the private I would just be like, I'll just
go find a dollar.

Speaker 2 (35:12):
Looks right, I'll go to like a breeder and take
a picture of this sort of dog for you.

Speaker 5 (35:17):
We'll use AI to make the dogs smaller.

Speaker 2 (35:21):
It's did you ever watch that Errol Morris documentary Tabloid?

Speaker 1 (35:25):
No?

Speaker 2 (35:26):
Oh, it's so good. It's it's not about dogs. Basically,
it's about a woman who kidnapped a Mormon missionary in
England and kind of turned him into her sex thing
for a little while. Wow, And it became this giant
tabloid thing in the seventies. But then she disappeared and
I guess this is kind of a spoiler, but whatever,
she ended up being the first person to clone her dog.

(35:47):
So later, like decades later, suddenly she's in the news again,
but for this other crazy reason.

Speaker 5 (35:51):
What the waituh?

Speaker 4 (35:54):
And and was it are they connecting any way where?

Speaker 5 (35:59):
It's like the cloning thing? Is that?

Speaker 3 (36:01):
No, she just, like I wonder if there was some
desperation for attention.

Speaker 2 (36:05):
Yeah, but she just loved her dog, which I think
was named Booker, and she I remember, like it must
have been twenty years ago or something like that the
first dog got cloned in Korea or whatever, and it
was her. That's this lady just kept getting in the news.
And then I worked at a talk show in the
when I first moved to LA and apparently I was
banned from answering the phone because I was so bad

(36:26):
at answering the phone. But uh, podcast again, what's happened. Yeah,
it was too many buttons. Ye, too much.

Speaker 3 (36:36):
I can't push hold and then send about.

Speaker 2 (36:38):
Actually sound stressful. Oh it's so stressful. You have no idea,
You have no idea. But do you know Patrick McDonald? Yes,
he worked at the show as well. He was allowed
to answer the phones, and I believe it was him
that was telling me that she, this lady would call
in trying to like book herself as a guest on
the show.

Speaker 5 (36:55):
Oh my god, that's insane. What is she in jail?

Speaker 3 (36:58):
Now we should check whoever you are, reach out.

Speaker 5 (37:02):
Let's have her. We'll have her and we'll have Ellen
on the same show.

Speaker 2 (37:07):
Yeah, she probably would reach out to be honest, it
sounds like she wants to be on something. Yeah, yeah,
I wouldn't mind. Oh and also former Mormon here. Oh
I'm putting myself in danger.

Speaker 5 (37:17):
Oh that's very true. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (37:19):
Well, anything for the scoop, anything for anything, for a journalist.

Speaker 5 (37:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (37:25):
Maybe it's also not a type that she has as
much as it was, like she did it once and
now she's actually I've been there.

Speaker 5 (37:31):
I don't want no thank you.

Speaker 2 (37:32):
I've closed the chapter on that. Yeah, no, she's she's
out there somewhere I think in Wyoming potentially still cloning dogs.
But I mean, I mean, truly the most immoral thing
you can do, pet wise, clone your dog.

Speaker 4 (37:46):
Yeah, I mean yes, it's I mean I just can't
imagine the desire for that. And also because it's like
people going like I want this exact dog, and I'm like,
that's not how it's gonna go.

Speaker 3 (37:55):
Do you know how anything works?

Speaker 4 (37:57):
Yeah, it's so environment based and all. Yeah, it's just
not it's wild.

Speaker 2 (38:01):
And putting the pressure on that poor creature you've created
to become the same animal.

Speaker 4 (38:05):
I'm also just a little like you gotta learn, you
the thing there is really just you need to learn
to let things go. Not in a way of like
that would never say that when they're grieving, but in
the way that it's like if your attachment to something
is so strong that you're like instead of letting it
go or being upset that it has died and like
coming to terms with grief, I'm gonna use science to
replicate it, exactly. I'm like, there's millions of stories, like

(38:28):
cautionary tales about that, exactly.

Speaker 2 (38:30):
Caness maybe like legends and myths.

Speaker 5 (38:32):
Yeah, I don't think you should do that.

Speaker 2 (38:35):
They never turn out well once unless you found out
that the dog actually went to hell and you have
to rescue it by cloning it.

Speaker 3 (38:42):
Yeah, now there's a story.

Speaker 5 (38:43):
There's a story, there's an interesting.

Speaker 4 (38:45):
You clone it and you're like, this time, I'm gonna
do it right. I'm gonna I'm gonna teach it how
to be a good dog. So it goes to heaven.

Speaker 2 (38:53):
Uh, which you know you shouldn't rule anything out. No,
you know how old your cat?

Speaker 5 (38:57):
My cat is?

Speaker 4 (38:58):
I think a little over to oh baby, yeah very
much baby.

Speaker 3 (39:03):
Where did you get it?

Speaker 5 (39:04):
So?

Speaker 4 (39:05):
My dog passed away also in twenty twenty three years
but a few weeks before he passed away, a friend
of mine who was moving to Alaska just text me
being like, dimmy, there's like a cat in my yard.
I don't know what's going on. I was like, oh shit,
I'm sorry. I do you want to help? And then
she didn't respond, and like ten hours later she's like,
this cat is still in my yard, like meowing and
trying to get in here, and I don't know what
to do because I'm about to leave town.

Speaker 5 (39:24):
I can't deal with this.

Speaker 4 (39:25):
And she had dogs and was like I can't deal
with this at all, and so I was like, Okay,
i've lived with a cat before. I can come and
take the cat and like foster it. And I was like,
I'm not keeping this cat though, and I named it
in TBD because I was like, I'm literally I was like,
I'm not giving him a name. But then at certain point,
it's like, well, I gotta get a litter box, so
we had somewhere to pee, and I'm gonna get him
food and I had all the provisions, and I was like,

(39:45):
I'm gonna try and teach him to be whatever, and
he got along with my dog just fine. But I
also was like I can't deal with this cat and
this dog a lot. It's a lot, and I was
just like at a certain point my dog was dying
and my friends kept like throughout the process of my
cat being there, people kept just being like, you're obviously
going to keep the cat, Like no, I'm not.

Speaker 5 (40:03):
I'm really I'm not doing it. I'm just not. I
don't want a cat.

Speaker 4 (40:06):
And then like the day before my dog passed, I
had friends come over to say goodbye. And my dog's
name was Clooney because it fit his vibe. But also
because to me, I was like, oh, I love Ocean's eleven.
I was like, Clooney is the vibe of this dog.
And so the day before friends came over and they
were like, sir, I was going to keep the cat.

Speaker 5 (40:25):
What name you think you're gonna give it. I was like,
I'm not doing that.

Speaker 4 (40:27):
And they were like, let's go through a bunch of
names from the Ocean's franchise that you could It's like
Bernie mac kate and they were like Elliott Gould and
I was like, I'm not doing any of these. And
they were like, what about Terry Bennedict And I was like,
Terry Bennedict. It's kind of like TVD Terry. But yeah,
if I kept the cat, I would And then like
it was, my dog passed away and I was pretty

(40:48):
quickly just sort of like, it's nice to have another
animal in the house.

Speaker 5 (40:50):
We're going to keep the cat.

Speaker 4 (40:53):
And so I kept him, and then my ex was
basically like when she would come over, would call him
Benny a Terr Bennedict and that suck. And so now
his name officially is Benny, but on the like the
VET forms Terry Benedict. But yeah, Terry Benedict being the
villain from Otions eleven, of course.

Speaker 2 (41:09):
So when you go to the vet, do they like?
The nurse comes out and says Terry Benedict, Yes, and.

Speaker 5 (41:16):
It does nothing to him because he only responds to Benny.

Speaker 2 (41:18):
But yeah, yeah, cat names are interesting because you're rarely used.

Speaker 4 (41:23):
Yes, I feel like a lot of times they don't
answer them at all, and it does just feel like
a way to be, like, here's my way of acknowledging
the creature that is also in this right, my cat
very recently has been answering to it and will be
like I'll be like in bed, I'll just pick Benny
and he'll running out of nowhere and just jump into
bed with me, which I think is just because I
was gone for so long that now he misses me, right,
so he'll get over that quickly.

Speaker 2 (41:44):
What color of cat he is?

Speaker 5 (41:46):
Gray, short hair, Yeah, I.

Speaker 3 (41:48):
Love a good cat. I love a sweet cat.

Speaker 5 (41:51):
Very rambunctious.

Speaker 3 (41:52):
Well, should I keep going in the bag or that
you meant on the pile?

Speaker 2 (41:55):
Finish the pie was?

Speaker 5 (41:59):
Yeah, every bite? But yes, please keep going right?

Speaker 3 (42:04):
Okay, now this is a larger object. Oh oh my god,
three D film camera.

Speaker 2 (42:12):
This is wait a three D Yeah, how I don't
know that I've ever heard of this.

Speaker 4 (42:16):
So basically, it shoots like if you have a roll
of like twenty four exposures on a roll of film, Yeah,
will shoot half frames and it'll shoot three half frames
at once, which you then when you get the film back,
you can like put it in an app or line
them up. So it's basically you have them like moved
together in like a stereogram way.

Speaker 3 (42:35):
I can show you. Yeah, I would own an example. Spatially.
I'm very bad, so I need this show too.

Speaker 4 (42:40):
It's hard to it's hard to describe, honestly, but I
let me just find one here.

Speaker 2 (42:46):
Whoa, yeah, is this a new thing? Not because this
camera looks, you know, like it's old and older. I
want to say it's that's from the nineties. There's so
in the eighties. I believe there was a camera call
Nishika and three hundred. I want to say that you
used to shoot four lenses and it's very similar, and

(43:07):
I think that's probably when this kind of thing started.
They don't do it a lot anymore. But I have
like two of these and was like, well, I'm going
to give you this one my god. I think it's
my favorite type of party camera and it's just yeah,
it's just a lot of fun.

Speaker 3 (43:20):
Wow, where did you get it?

Speaker 5 (43:21):
I want to say, I got that one in New York?

Speaker 3 (43:23):
And how did you become aware of these?

Speaker 4 (43:25):
I'm a big camera and film guy. I have I
think thirty one different cameras.

Speaker 3 (43:30):
That's amazing.

Speaker 5 (43:30):
Yeah, and I.

Speaker 4 (43:32):
Use all of them, not like routinely, but it's like
if I buy a new camera the intention, it's like
I'm not just collecting them, it's.

Speaker 3 (43:36):
Like I want to use it.

Speaker 4 (43:39):
Yeah, and I think that like with these ones, I
want to say that I saw it online someone and
was like, that's interesting. I love to buy one of that,
and I bought a different one, and then that one
broken about this one, and then I bought the original
one because I missed it, right, But it's just uh, yeah,
I just I love going to a party and shooting
photos with.

Speaker 5 (43:54):
This, and everyone like really enjoys it when I.

Speaker 4 (43:56):
Get it back, and it just feels so much more
lively to have a photo that shows like, of course it.

Speaker 2 (44:01):
A little more cool. Yeah, what were they doing initially
before apps? Like how would you experience? That?

Speaker 3 (44:05):
Is such a good question. I genuinely don't. Until ten
years ago, you just couldn't use these.

Speaker 4 (44:10):
Yeah, video like I because it's not it's not like
so new that it is for phones.

Speaker 2 (44:17):
Right, I'm like imagining you know, like those little stop
or the the flip book thing something like that. Yeah,
because I can't. And maybe they just said the technology
was ahead of its time and it was unusable for decades, Like.

Speaker 4 (44:31):
Well, now you have four photos that look exactly the
same with slight differences.

Speaker 5 (44:34):
Maybe it was like in video in some.

Speaker 2 (44:36):
Way, right, So sort of they put it on a
tape or something, which seems deeply inconvenient.

Speaker 4 (44:41):
Yes, it's like, hey, you guys want to see like
a second of some photos.

Speaker 2 (44:44):
Just a flickering photop on my TV.

Speaker 5 (44:47):
I'm not sure what they did before.

Speaker 3 (44:48):
Fascinating. Yeah, do you have a favorite camera.

Speaker 5 (44:51):
You work with?

Speaker 4 (44:52):
I have a go to camera that I shoot like
everything with because all of my cameras, aside from one,
are film cameras, and I will shoot with a it's
a Canon EOS one end, which is just like a
it's a standard, but it's like it has auto focus.
It's digital, right, but with film, and I just that's
a camera that I'll take everywhere with me. If it's

(45:12):
like I'm going on a walk or I'm going I'm
on a trip, it's like standard and fast and just
I don't have to like manually anything.

Speaker 3 (45:19):
Right, quality but quick?

Speaker 2 (45:20):
Yes, interesting and what got you into cameras I've had.

Speaker 4 (45:24):
There was like a film camera I had for like
ten years that I would use every so often. But
there was a two years ago I was working on
a show that shot in Puerto Rico and I had
to be in Puerto Rico for three months and I
took this camera with me. I feel like that's when
it really I was like, I can just walk around
and have a camera, and that's a thing to do, right.

Speaker 3 (45:41):
It was an immediate activity, yes, and it made.

Speaker 4 (45:44):
Me like sort of be like, oh now I'm thinking
about how I look in the world and how I
do things. And then I got into like every it
was like I also, as someone who like directs and
wants to be more of a director, I think like
shooting on film means that I have to be in
particular about the way that I frame things. And therefore
it's like I think it makes me better at composition
and understanding what.

Speaker 5 (46:01):
I like in the photo.

Speaker 3 (46:02):
You actually have to think it through. You have fewer chances.

Speaker 5 (46:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (46:05):
It also gives you like an authority that I feel
like a phone does. Yes, when you have a camera,
people are like, yeah, of course he's taking photos. Sure,
that's what he would do with this thing, whereas with
the phone's like you're trying to sneak it or I
don't know, there's yeah.

Speaker 3 (46:20):
Interesting.

Speaker 4 (46:20):
I also feel like I care so much more about
the photos I take on a proper camera, yeah, than
with my phone, which I'm just like I'll be I'll
forget that. It's like, oh yeah, there's a two screenshots
of my uber eats in here, and they're also a
photo of my cat, and it's like.

Speaker 2 (46:32):
There's a QR code from a fly. Yeah, things like that.

Speaker 4 (46:36):
But yeah, and then I got into like developing film
and like different types of film formats, and it just
became a thing that, like now is a huge hobby
of mine.

Speaker 2 (46:43):
Are you are you developing? Like you're in the dark room? Yeah,
do you have a dark room at your house?

Speaker 4 (46:47):
I have like a little half bathroom downstairs in my house,
and I just sort of when I don't have people over,
I'll be like, Okay, that's the room where I'm developing film.
There's chemicals and I got the window open.

Speaker 2 (46:57):
Right.

Speaker 3 (46:58):
I love the smell of film.

Speaker 5 (47:00):
It's really nice.

Speaker 3 (47:01):
What is that? It's like almost dangerous.

Speaker 5 (47:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (47:04):
I do think there's a world in which I had
I would have someone over and they'd be like, hey, actually,
I can tell that this is not good for my brain.

Speaker 5 (47:12):
I'm sure I do it a lot.

Speaker 3 (47:13):
I think it's probably doing this constantly, yeah, every day.

Speaker 2 (47:18):
Yeah, did you study film or or like photography or
anything in school?

Speaker 1 (47:22):
No?

Speaker 4 (47:22):
I I I studied film, but it was never a
thing that I like, I didn't use a dark room
in school or anything. I think it is just truly
like I got into the hobby of film, and then
by extension, would like get into like subreddit where they
were talking about film and then talking about film development
and talking about other things. Right, I'd go to the
place where I go to buy film and be like,
what are all these supplies that you have around me?
And then just be like the curiosity just care of, like,

(47:44):
well now I want to do all of this, right.

Speaker 2 (47:46):
It really can becomes such a rich hobby, yeah, which
just kind of never it.

Speaker 4 (47:50):
Is fully you need to even just to be like
I'm gonna shoot on film and develop.

Speaker 5 (47:55):
It's like, okay, well you're gonna have to pay for
the development.

Speaker 2 (47:57):
Literally if you have a disposable camera at this point,
well it's still going to cost a decent amount of
money to even get this developed, which I do.

Speaker 4 (48:03):
One thing I love about having like a dark rumor
like chemicals is occasionally friends, I'll just be like, if
anyone's developed their film for free from a disposable I'll
do it with you, like in my bathtub. Who It's like,
it's fun to like teach my friends how to do
it and also just be like, look at the photos.
You look at them right now, But yeah, that's always
a blast.

Speaker 2 (48:20):
Wow. So you can do develop in color? Wow, that's
really the next level. We in my high school we
had a photo class and we could develop in black
and white.

Speaker 5 (48:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (48:29):
You know what's weird is because I feel like everyone
starts learning in black and white, and like I was
told that that is the easier way to do it.
But for me, black and white is so much more
complicated because it's very specific to the film right versus color.
It's like every color role is a standard, like time
and probably you can do a bunch of color roles
at once.

Speaker 2 (48:45):
Interest.

Speaker 4 (48:46):
I think it's maybe it's like because the chemistry is
like different or more dangerous, that it is a little
more like you have to do it specifically.

Speaker 5 (48:53):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (48:53):
Yeah, color has been easy. It seem makes it kind
of like makes no sense logically or within the rules
of REAC. Yeah, it's like where did the colors come from?
Honestly genuinely don't understand it. And I'm like, so, if
I developed color in the black and white chemical, is
it going to be black and whiter?

Speaker 5 (49:09):
Is it going to be? Like I just I don't
ask questions.

Speaker 3 (49:13):
Have you had any big disasters?

Speaker 4 (49:16):
Not actually not like bad big disasters, but there's been
like one time where like the chemicals had sort of
worn out. I didn't realize it and I developed a
friend's to disposal roles and I was just like, these.

Speaker 5 (49:29):
Are very faded.

Speaker 4 (49:31):
Uh okay, So I think I realized what happened, and
like I had to like edit them in light room
the best I can. But she was just like, that's okay,
I don't care. But I was very like, oh god,
I've I've fucked up your photos. So you could have
taken to a place and had nice photos. Right, there's
no do over there, there's no yeah, which really bums
me out.

Speaker 3 (49:48):
You kind of ruined her memories.

Speaker 5 (49:51):
I ruined a lot of my own memories too.

Speaker 4 (49:52):
It's very temperate also because it's like there be times
where like the film gets stuck in a camera, or
I've like rolled my own film and it just I
did it wrong. So mouse stresses me out in a huge,
huge yeah. I went to a friend's wedding recently. First
of all, I brought four cameras, which is crazy, but
I knew that she would appreciate it, so I was like,
that's great. I shot her engagement photos. I brought like

(50:12):
a super eight camera. I had a lot of stuff
that I was doing. But then we went to a
baseball game the next day and one of the roles
got like stuck in the camera and I was like, well,
in order to get it out, I have to open
it and brought it's like a heist, yes, And it
didn't successfully do the highs cause she went all right, yeah,
And I was like, Okay, I'll just undo it when

(50:34):
I get home. But like, so a lot of the
roles from that camera from the actual wedding. I was like,
I didn't get and luckily I had my three D camera,
I had my Super eight, I had a medium format
camera that was really heavy.

Speaker 2 (50:48):
Are you you want to be directing more? Have you
directed anything recently?

Speaker 5 (50:52):
Not recently.

Speaker 4 (50:53):
I directed a short film for some friends last year,
and I'm probably going to direct another short this year.
But I also I feel like I've been just like
I have a movie that I want to direct that
I just am like, I need to finish writing it
because it's so important to me.

Speaker 2 (51:08):
I keep being like, right, of course, of course it
could take the rest of your life.

Speaker 5 (51:12):
Oh, let's hope not it should just be like, finish
it this week. It's just edits. But I'm like, but
I can't if it's not perfect.

Speaker 2 (51:18):
Yes, I know that, feeling very well, yeah, well, thin,
you'll get it done eventually.

Speaker 5 (51:22):
Let's hope, or you won't.

Speaker 2 (51:23):
And who cares.

Speaker 5 (51:24):
We're all die, Well, it'll die today.

Speaker 3 (51:26):
We could all be on a plane right now.

Speaker 4 (51:28):
Yeah, yeah, I have a time I got on a plane.
I'm like, I'm going to write now, and it's like,
now you owt you're gonna die instead?

Speaker 2 (51:36):
Is there anything else we should say about this camera.
I'm so excited about this.

Speaker 4 (51:40):
I don't know if there's uh no, yeah, it's like
there's a little counter on top. Because it's like, basically,
if you're shooting twenty four a role that has twenty
four photos on it, you're actually shooting eighteen photos. You're
eighteen of the three photos shooting thirty six. It's twenty four.
Let me say, I don't know how to Well.

Speaker 2 (51:59):
I'm glad you say that because the math in my
head was way off. Yeah, I won't even reveal what
I thought would the amount of photos would be taken.

Speaker 5 (52:06):
You're like three times as many.

Speaker 2 (52:08):
So I get to take a thousand photos right now. Oh,
I'm so excited about this. I'll have to take some
pictures and put them on Instagram at point. Does Instagram
allow you to put them on?

Speaker 4 (52:18):
Yes, it's as a video, so it'll just okay, right,
a boomerang, right pre boomerang?

Speaker 3 (52:22):
Do they still do boomerangs?

Speaker 5 (52:24):
I am sure that kids don't.

Speaker 3 (52:26):
Right, but they're probably planning to. It'll be like a throwback.

Speaker 5 (52:30):
Yeah, it'll be like I remember boomerangs.

Speaker 4 (52:31):
Oh, look at me, I'm thirty and I'll be like, okay,
I'm older than that.

Speaker 3 (52:37):
Boomerangs they didn't last that long.

Speaker 4 (52:39):
No, It's also like it's not that interesting of a thing,
Like what if a video was short and went backwards
at the end, and I'm like, where's it start, what's
what's the action?

Speaker 2 (52:48):
What am I getting from this? And why is this
better than a picture?

Speaker 4 (52:52):
If boomerangs came before video, it'd be massive? Oh of course,
It's like at that point we could just you can
just do a longer video.

Speaker 5 (52:59):
Why would you would you have a boo?

Speaker 2 (53:01):
Right? Well, it was a bad idea on Mark Zuckerberg's part.
We'll blame him. Well, I'm so excited about this is
there's nothing else in here. There's good I've gotten. What
a gift, What a delicious and wonderful gift I've been
a given. I think we should play a game. Let's
we're gonna play a game called Gift or a Curse.
But I need a number between one and ten from you.

Speaker 5 (53:19):
Seven. Okay.

Speaker 2 (53:20):
I have to do some light calculating to get our
game pieces. Okay, so right now you can recommend, and
let's not talk about my maths.

Speaker 4 (53:27):
I was like the way I said the way I said,
It's like I don't know about that, Richard. It's more
that you just said that you were bad at maths
Oo okay, sorry, what do you What were you saying?

Speaker 2 (53:36):
Right now?

Speaker 3 (53:36):
You can recommend, promote, do whatever you want. I'll be
right back.

Speaker 2 (53:39):
Did you give me a number already?

Speaker 5 (53:41):
I said seven?

Speaker 4 (53:41):
Seven, that's right. I don't know that I have much
to promote. I shot a special recently. It's called demy
Dejuibe is going to do one backflip uh and it
is going to come out sometime this year, I think November.
But I also don't hold me to that on dropout
where I also am doing a lot of performing stuff.
Aside from that, Do I have anything to promote Fantastic

(54:05):
four in theaters now? I'm not involved with it, but
I also haven't seen it. So also I could see
it before this comes out and be like, I didn't
like that very much?

Speaker 5 (54:13):
What else? What else have you heard?

Speaker 4 (54:16):
The music of LCD sound System also not involved with them.
I do like them, though, so I know that that's good.

Speaker 2 (54:24):
They could use a foot up.

Speaker 5 (54:25):
Yeah, they're not doing well. They're struggling. LCD Sounds needs
the Demi boost.

Speaker 2 (54:32):
They're coming in September with Pulp.

Speaker 5 (54:34):
They sure are.

Speaker 3 (54:35):
I want to see Polp.

Speaker 2 (54:36):
I want to I'll see LCD Sounds this m I
haven't bought tickets, so I.

Speaker 4 (54:39):
Want to go to that, but I think I'm not
going to be in town. But every time I've seen
an LCD Soundsystem show, I have a moment where I'm
actively thinking, this is one of the best moments of
my life, which is, where.

Speaker 5 (54:48):
Are you going to be New York?

Speaker 3 (54:50):
Oh shame?

Speaker 5 (54:51):
Yeah, wort City in the world.

Speaker 2 (54:52):
O wor city on a plane and.

Speaker 5 (54:55):
I'm just going for fun. I want to be there.

Speaker 2 (55:00):
Another obvious mistake. Yeah, okay, this is how we play
Gift or a Curse. I'm going to name three things.
You'll tell me if there are a gift or a
curse and why. Then I'll tell you if you're right
or wrong, because there are correct answers, of course, and
you can lose shit, so just be nervous.

Speaker 5 (55:16):
Uh yeah, I'm there.

Speaker 3 (55:17):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (55:17):
This first one is from one of our Patreon listeners
who goes by the name Old Timey Juvenile. I assume
that's their Christian name. Gift or a Curse targeted ads
on Instagram for things you would actually want to purchase.

Speaker 5 (55:32):
Oh gosh, that's a good one.

Speaker 4 (55:34):
I've had this many times and I do end up
purchasing a thing and then people will compliment me on
it and I have to go, thanks, it's from in Instagram ad.
So I'm gonna say curse because when it is a
thing that you want and if people are like that's
really cool, you then have to say it's from an Instagram.

Speaker 2 (55:48):
Ad, the least cool thing you could possibly.

Speaker 5 (55:50):
Possibly You could just be like, oh, thank you.

Speaker 4 (55:52):
I wish I remember where it's vintage, but they'll know no, Yeah,
curse because it's from an Instagram ad. No matter how
good it is, you have to own up to the
fact that it's because they saw everything that you like.

Speaker 5 (56:02):
And when I bet you're like this, you little fucking piggy,
and you're.

Speaker 2 (56:04):
Like I do. Yeah. Every time I've every time someone's
told me that, I'm like, well, you just didn't have
to tell me that.

Speaker 3 (56:11):
Yeah, you could have just said thank you.

Speaker 4 (56:13):
I feel like I'm like, I'm I feel guilty and
just like I don't want them to look it up
or be like I gotta know where that's from.

Speaker 2 (56:18):
It's like they'll find it right then it'll be even
more embarrassing, and I kept it from them.

Speaker 5 (56:22):
Yeah, it's like, damn, you're on that phone too much.

Speaker 2 (56:24):
Yeah, I guess I do that with any compliment on clothing.
I just immediately undercut it. Yes, well, like tell them
where I got it from and how cheap it was, yeah,
rather than just saying thank.

Speaker 5 (56:33):
You, yeah, oh, thank you so much. But I think
it's like that.

Speaker 4 (56:36):
That's how you either keep the conversation going or you're like,
I know it's gonna be the next question, so let
me just say I got it from the trash.

Speaker 2 (56:43):
Well, you're wrong. Oh, it's a gift for me. I
feel so strong. They've never gotten me. Yeah, They've shown
me things I would like to buy. Wow, and I
say no every single time. Okay, Well it's a gift
because you're strong enough. It's a gift. It's shown me
how strong I can be. Yeah, and how strong I
continue to be that. You know, they have more information

(57:05):
on me than even my partner. No one in the
world knows more about me than the internet, and they
still can't get me, still can't get you. They can
show me whatever they want, I'm not gonna buy it. Yeah,
So it's a gift. For showing me how strong I am.
That's a good point, so next time you're a tempted
to be strong.

Speaker 4 (57:26):
There are times where I'm like, I think you think
I need this, and I definitely don't.

Speaker 5 (57:30):
But it's always something stupid.

Speaker 4 (57:31):
It'll be like I did see this once for like
an app that is like an email sort of thing,
and they're like, aren't you sick of paying thirty bucks
a month for email? And I'm like, that's not you
lost me, you fucked up. That's not a real problem,
and a real problem I don't have that. You think
I'm different. Sorry, I'm scrolling away.

Speaker 2 (57:47):
Who's spending thirty dollars a month on you?

Speaker 4 (57:48):
I don't know, but it really it haunts me because
I'm just sort of like, oh, I think, yeah, I don't.
That's not enough for me. I also saw one. I
think about this a lot. I saw one that's just
sort of like, will take care of a vacation. You
just show up and you won't even know where you're
going until you land. And I'm like, that is human trafficking.
That is absolutely not a service.

Speaker 3 (58:08):
This is coming from the dark web.

Speaker 4 (58:10):
Yes, there these are things that are just like they
think I'm either richer than I am and I'm spending
money poorly, or they're like you, you want the experience
of being hunted for sport, but you don't want to
admit it.

Speaker 2 (58:22):
Wow, bad business concept probably works. Yeah, Okay, you've gotten
one wrong so far, and that's fine. Number two. This
is from a Patreon listener named Cashley. Gift or a
curse color contact lenses.

Speaker 5 (58:37):
Uh, curse. I'm gonna say. I feel like, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (58:43):
I feel like wearing a color contact lens makes you
look and feel so interesting, but it also does just
feel like, well, I guess it's probably a gift to
the person wearing them, because like, wow, how interesting to
imagine I have a different eye color.

Speaker 5 (58:55):
But it does just feel a little like what like
a what a weird? Uh? Everyone thinks you have that
eye color.

Speaker 1 (59:02):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (59:03):
That's what's strange to me.

Speaker 4 (59:06):
If I met someone, I was just like, U, suge
striking eyes, and then they were like thank you, And
then over time you're like, Okay, I gotta admit.

Speaker 3 (59:12):
The different I got them from an Instagram.

Speaker 4 (59:14):
Yeah, unless it's like Instagram knows that you really hit
your eyes. I guess if it is a color that
it's like, that's so on, Like if it's like red eyes,
it's like, oh, that's only interesting, but also still I
think disorienting in a way.

Speaker 2 (59:26):
I'm gonna say, stick with curse, correct curse. I mean,
come on, it's never worked for anybody. Yeah, it's always
it's almost always a psycho. It almost always makes you
look like you work at a vape store or something.
It doesn't.

Speaker 3 (59:40):
It never looks right.

Speaker 1 (59:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (59:42):
Even if it's like basically like oh, that person would
have that color of eyes, it doesn't look right.

Speaker 4 (59:46):
It feels like something in like a weird dystopian sci
fi which was just sort of like I've decided I
want purple eyes. I'm like, okay, well I don't. We
don't have to talk that long. No offense to anyone
who loves their color contacts. That's great for you. I
just the conversation will be sure.

Speaker 2 (01:00:02):
And the other thing is is every eye is nice looking. Yeah,
they're all interesting colors already. Hey, yeah, what's your don't
be insecure about the color of your eye, the.

Speaker 5 (01:00:11):
Thing you've had since birth.

Speaker 4 (01:00:12):
That will like, no one's going like, oh, brown eyes
brown I guess probably people do, but I think at
a certain one you have to be like they're wrong.
Actually that I'm fifty three.

Speaker 3 (01:00:25):
Yeah, correct, curse.

Speaker 2 (01:00:27):
You know, if you want to change a color of something,
dye your hair, get a new.

Speaker 4 (01:00:31):
Shirt, right, wear glasses, you wear fake glasses. I think
I'm okay with that. Fake glasses, go for it. Yah,
it's an accessory, I agree, helps frame your face whatever.
The only guy who gets to do is that guy
from Limp Biscuit who had the black eyes. Remember that
guy the basis for Limp Biscuit, that's his name. I
feel like we talked about him very early on in

(01:00:52):
this podcast, but you bring him out every episode and
he's like, you don't know this guy. I feel like
I'm always talking about him.

Speaker 3 (01:00:58):
I just I'm haunted by his image.

Speaker 2 (01:01:00):
He wore like black contacts, so it was just like
all pupil that kind of a cool metal look.

Speaker 5 (01:01:05):
Yeah, that works for new metal.

Speaker 4 (01:01:06):
But if I just met him out in a bound
and he's wearing that, I'll be like, no, no, no, no,
you're off the stage right now. You take that shit off.
That is for music videos and for performing only.

Speaker 2 (01:01:15):
Making everyone uncomfortable.

Speaker 5 (01:01:16):
Yeah, no, one likes it. Man, you look possessed, you
look spooky.

Speaker 3 (01:01:20):
Okay, okay, now you've gotten one right, So that's good.

Speaker 5 (01:01:22):
And with a member of gorillas like the cartoon.

Speaker 2 (01:01:24):
Members, oh my god. See they can wear them, they
can wear them, they can do whatever they want a session.

Speaker 4 (01:01:29):
Wise, if I'm talking to two D, if I'm in
the real world, I'm talking to my best friend to
D and he's got the contact on, I say, take
them out, take them.

Speaker 3 (01:01:36):
Out, gorillas, do whatever you want to do.

Speaker 2 (01:01:41):
H okay. Number three this is from Emily Gift. He
a curse when someone says, you already told me when
you're telling a story, curse, huge curse.

Speaker 5 (01:01:49):
How fucking dare you let me just do it? Actually? Wait, no,
I cannotigate real.

Speaker 3 (01:01:56):
Actually this has happened before.

Speaker 4 (01:01:58):
I've changed my mind immediately because I think if I
got to the end of it and then learned that
they were just like, yeah, we're just humoring you. We
let you tell me if I've told you already, I'm yeah,
I came out too hot on that. Tell me if
I tell me, if you told me already. I don't
want to waste your time. I don't think it's so
interesting with a story that, like I need you to
go through it again. And also if I tell it

(01:02:19):
differently because I forgot a detail and now you realize like, hmm,
wasn't what you said last time with the liar?

Speaker 5 (01:02:24):
I look, yeah, I look like an asshole. So it's
a gift.

Speaker 2 (01:02:27):
Correct, it's a gift. I think a lot of people
have that same reaction because it is a startling thing
for someone to be like, I don't want to hear
what you're saying. Yeah, but this is it saves everybody
some time. We don't unless you're the greatest storyteller to
ever live, I don't want to hear your story another time.

Speaker 5 (01:02:45):
I agree.

Speaker 2 (01:02:46):
What you do need, as the person who sang you
already told me, is you need to say that early
on and in a nice way say oh, you actually
told me this.

Speaker 5 (01:02:53):
Oh wait, no, I remember you said. Yes.

Speaker 3 (01:02:55):
That's a way to say, oh I remember you. There
you go. Then you put your saying you're the problem.

Speaker 5 (01:03:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:03:00):
And also it's like you say it in a way
where it's excited. He's like, now we can engage about it.
You skipped the beginning. Let's just talk about the rest.

Speaker 2 (01:03:06):
But you obviously can't stop talking about this boring story.

Speaker 3 (01:03:09):
Yeah, so let's get into it. I think it's a gift.

Speaker 4 (01:03:12):
It feels similar to I think my gut reaction came
from the feeling of like you already told me. Almost
feels a little like we've met before or I'm just
like I'm sorry, dude, like let it go.

Speaker 2 (01:03:26):
We've met before. Never needs to be said, no, unless
I guess you could say it in a nice way
of like there are some circumstances, but the way you're
currently the worst thing a person can possibly say.

Speaker 4 (01:03:37):
Yeah, it's the attitude of like, how dare you not remember?
And it's like you remember everyone you've met, Like I'm
I think it's if anyone ever, If I if anyone
ever comes up to me and doesn't remember that we
met before, I don't care.

Speaker 5 (01:03:47):
You could be like my sibling and I'd be like,
that's who cares you.

Speaker 3 (01:03:50):
Yeah, is a bad thing. Yeah, exactly, we've met before.

Speaker 4 (01:03:54):
There have been times where a guy will just be
like I'm not getting come on, dude, we've met before.

Speaker 5 (01:03:58):
What's my name? And I'm like what, I don't I think,
why do.

Speaker 2 (01:04:03):
That to himself? Yeah, that's just cementing the fact that
you don't know who he.

Speaker 4 (01:04:07):
Is, yes, And now I'm like, well, I guess I'll
remember you now as the guy that I don't want.

Speaker 2 (01:04:10):
Who's really annoying and thinks everyone knows who he is.

Speaker 5 (01:04:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:04:15):
Oh, meeting people, all of that is very complicated. I
think it's just we need to stick to how are
you doing?

Speaker 5 (01:04:20):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:04:20):
Nice?

Speaker 3 (01:04:21):
Not even nice to see you. How's your Jacob?

Speaker 5 (01:04:23):
Yeah, what's up?

Speaker 2 (01:04:24):
Who cares if someone's met you before, doesn't matter what
you got two out of three?

Speaker 5 (01:04:29):
That is huge for me. That's huge. Tree.

Speaker 4 (01:04:31):
I was gonna somehow guess wrong on each one. I
was like, it's a binary option. I'd still suck it up.
Fifty fifty very good. You needed the win today and
you got it. Well, you got a sixty six percent.
You needed that today and you got it. And now, Honalise,
our producer, has one of their own gift a curse
which we both have to speak to to kind of,
you know, level the playing field. Honalise, what is it?

Speaker 6 (01:04:53):
Gift a curse when pop stars give their fans collective names,
for example, little monsters Orienators.

Speaker 2 (01:05:01):
What's an Arienator? I've never heard of the Ariana fanom
I've never.

Speaker 4 (01:05:07):
Heard it, said, out loud, which and when you say that,
I was like, arians, that one's a curse.

Speaker 2 (01:05:15):
I'm sorry, that's what Hitler called. Yeah, ariators, Arienators, ariators.

Speaker 4 (01:05:25):
I think it's it's gotta be arian. But even then,
I'm just like, I think, just.

Speaker 2 (01:05:31):
The grande heads, my little grande's yeah, my little thing.

Speaker 3 (01:05:37):
That's cute, petite.

Speaker 5 (01:05:39):
Yeah, we fixed that for you.

Speaker 2 (01:05:40):
Oh god, Okay, do you want to or should I
speak to it first?

Speaker 5 (01:05:45):
I didn't you speak to first? I'm still thinking one.

Speaker 2 (01:05:47):
Okay, let's see. I'm going to say. I'm going to
say that this is a curse because it is well,
let me back up now, because it's nickname terror to
and I'm trying to think of who names who you
give people their nickname, they don't choose their nickname. Oh,

(01:06:09):
I'm but I am.

Speaker 3 (01:06:09):
Going to say. I'm gonna say it's a gift.

Speaker 2 (01:06:12):
I think it's I think it's a nice thing that
you get to give to the your fans. Yeah, to
you know, collect themselves and label themselves.

Speaker 4 (01:06:23):
Oh so the fans presumably like it to be Like also,
I'm like, are they giving it? Are they always giving
it to the fans or is it like sometimes popping
up in the fan group.

Speaker 2 (01:06:33):
Like the Reddit, the subreddity side. We're at the area nat.

Speaker 4 (01:06:37):
Do BTS fans do they decide they're called the army?
Or is it like the BTS calls them the army.
I think it's still a gift either way. I'm like,
I think it's probably a nice thing to be an
collective group and be like, here's how we refer to ourselves,
and isn't that cute?

Speaker 2 (01:06:50):
Right? I think that's nice. And I mean, this is
something that pops up for this podcast pretty frequently, listeners
saying what should we be called? And I just never
have an idea, which I guess that's a curse for me.

Speaker 3 (01:07:03):
Maybe it's up to them. I don't know, I curses.

Speaker 2 (01:07:09):
I don't like think, I don't like anything.

Speaker 3 (01:07:11):
Yeah, that's the big problem.

Speaker 2 (01:07:16):
I've been calling them listeners for years, but I guess
that's not specific enough. I'll do some brainstorming. If anyone
has a really good idea. My secret wives, secret secret wives,
maybe my secret wives the bridge, okay, your bridge and
they're the tunnel bridge and tunnel. We'll think about it.

(01:07:38):
We'll think about it, little monsters. I'll just rip it
out of Gaga's hands. Yeah, you just take it, honestly,
how did we do?

Speaker 6 (01:07:47):
I'm sorry you guys, but they're a curse because it
takes something that should be an aspect of like it's
a thing you like, but now it's become a part
of who you are, and this is what divides people.
So suddenly you've got like the swiftye against the beehive.
It becomes then this like almost like tribalist ship that
is like very bad and should not be like you know,

(01:08:09):
uh explored on the internet, like we don't need any
more reasons to be like divided on the internet. And
then suddenly you were giving names to just like arbitrary
things like oh I happen to like a thing and therefore.

Speaker 2 (01:08:20):
You killed Joy?

Speaker 6 (01:08:22):
What are you kidding me? And then as and as
a musician myself, now suddenly I have to think of
something like a yeah, no, it's awful.

Speaker 5 (01:08:30):
It's awful.

Speaker 6 (01:08:31):
No.

Speaker 4 (01:08:31):
I do agree that the tribalism is insane, but in
my head, I'm like, that's kind of happened whether or
not they have a name.

Speaker 2 (01:08:37):
Yeah, psychos are going to be psychos. Yeah, uh, And
on a least, you're unfortunately wrong. I don't know what
you're talking about. We were correct.

Speaker 5 (01:08:46):
Get in the comments tunnels.

Speaker 3 (01:08:49):
Secret wives, get.

Speaker 5 (01:08:50):
In comments, secret wives.

Speaker 2 (01:08:53):
Of all gender, of all gender. Of course, anyone could
be a secret wife. That's the great thing about being alive.
If you want to be a see wife, go for it.
This is the final segment of the podcast. It's called
I Said no emails. People write into I Said no
gifts at gmail dot com, or they leave a voice note,
send a voice note, which I realized is complicated, but
on a least, can you explain.

Speaker 6 (01:09:13):
Okay, because we have not gotten enough voice notes.

Speaker 3 (01:09:15):
I don't just stop doing it.

Speaker 6 (01:09:17):
We have to do it. We have to do it.
So I'm going to go over something with you. Okay,
So you have this thing and it's called a phone.
And on the phone there's this little app and it
said it's called voice Memos, and you're going to click
on that. You're going to hit the big red button
at the bottom. Okay, You're going to ask a question
and it's going to be in a quiet space. It's
not going to be longer than sixty seconds. Then you're
going to hit that red button again. Then you're going

(01:09:40):
to press three little dots on the new thing that
you've just created. It's going to ask if you want
to share it, and then you're going to email it
to I said, no gifts at gmail dot com.

Speaker 3 (01:09:49):
Wonderful.

Speaker 6 (01:09:49):
We gotta do it, guys and make them juicy.

Speaker 3 (01:09:53):
An interest secret wives, let's do this.

Speaker 2 (01:09:56):
If you're going to be my secret wife, you better
have some great voice questions. Yes, I'm tired of reading emails. No,
I don't mind reading emails either. Do whatever you want
to do. But Honiley's thank you for the directions and
the little patronizing rude but whatever, demy.

Speaker 3 (01:10:11):
Will you help me answer a question?

Speaker 5 (01:10:12):
Yes they will.

Speaker 3 (01:10:13):
Okay, this is Bridger and celebrated guests. That's nice. They
guessed correctly.

Speaker 5 (01:10:18):
They don't know that well.

Speaker 2 (01:10:20):
They threw a dart and they hold Yeah. I could
use your advice on something. It's small, but I find
it weirdly stressful. Question mark, my friend has been hosting
pool parties off and on this summer. Nothing huge, just
casual hangs with snacks. He doesn't provide towels. Okay, I
don't think that anyone needs. Okay, is that the question?

(01:10:43):
This is we're halfway through the thing is Hey, that's
what makes it casual. Sorry, Oh yeah, interesting, Well, we
all have a different idea of what a pool party
should be.

Speaker 3 (01:10:51):
I guess the thing is.

Speaker 2 (01:10:52):
At the first one, I brought a bottle of wine,
and I thought that sort of covered me for the season.
But since then, I've shown up empty handed a few times,
and I think he i'd have made a light comment
slash hint about people not bringing things. Well, well, i'd
like a specific whatever. So now I'm spiraling Are you
supposed to bring something every time? Am I reading into

(01:11:12):
things too much? Or is this one of those unspoken
rules that I should have clocked that's from Becca?

Speaker 5 (01:11:17):
Huh?

Speaker 3 (01:11:18):
Why just what is towels? Why doesn't that that has nothing?

Speaker 4 (01:11:21):
I feel like that might just be a similar like
it's so non he's doing almost nothing.

Speaker 5 (01:11:26):
Yeah, but I'm also just like, if I throw a
pool party, I'm not providing.

Speaker 2 (01:11:29):
How many towels does a person own?

Speaker 5 (01:11:30):
Yeah, exactly, bring a fucking towel.

Speaker 3 (01:11:32):
That's such an easy, bare minimum.

Speaker 5 (01:11:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:11:35):
Uh, so not up to a great start, Becca, But
I also would say, I so my personal take on this,
and I don't I think no one else agrees, is
I don't need you to bring something?

Speaker 5 (01:11:44):
When you ship to my ass.

Speaker 4 (01:11:46):
The point that actually sometimes people bring stuff, I'm like,
this is cumbersome. Now I just have four hundred beers
and no one's drinking them, and I don't drink beer really,
so I'm just like, so put the beer in my fridge.
And I'm like, no, you don't have to bring me stuff.
But also I think depending on how casual to hang is,
you absolutely shouldn't have to bring stone.

Speaker 2 (01:12:03):
No. If it's not casual, like what especially a pool party,
it's doing a bunch in a short period of time. Also, no,
I think the fact that Becha brought something at all
is she should get a key to the house at
this point. Yeah, she should get to drive his car.
And the guy what is this guy? Why does he?

Speaker 3 (01:12:19):
What more could he possibly want?

Speaker 4 (01:12:21):
Yeah, I'm I'm i gotta know what the comment is
in the tone, because I'm like, was it a joke?
Was it like a thing of like? And also, if
you're spiraling, I think next time, bring something small and
just be sort of like, sorry, I haven't been bringing anything.
And if they're like what, no, it's like their response
to that is really it's.

Speaker 3 (01:12:39):
Now become a game.

Speaker 2 (01:12:40):
Yes, a psychological game that Becca gets to make the
next move. Yes, and hopefully we'll outsmart this person. But
there's also a chance he just doesn't like Becka's personality
and it's trying to just hurt her.

Speaker 4 (01:12:51):
But also, if Becca, if you keep getting invited, I
think it's maybe not that big of a deal. And
if it was a small comment, maybe it's like they
were they were being a little shit right.

Speaker 2 (01:13:00):
Maybe he was extremely drunk mm hm, because of that
wine you'd be bringing, yes, that he's been drinking all summer. Well, Beca,
I think you have your answer there. Buy a towel,
that's the get. Throw a few in your trunk and
you won't have to worry that gift next time. He's like,
I brought a couple of towels. I know you don't
provide towels. Yeah, that's what a great way to get
back it.

Speaker 4 (01:13:19):
Yeah, and then he'll he'll call him be like, hey,
so I've been throwing these pool parties and my friendmate
is comment about a towel.

Speaker 2 (01:13:27):
I'm gonna destroy both of these people's lives. Well, we
answered the question perfectly. Yeah, you played the game pretty well.
I've got a pie that I'll eat around the hair. Yeah,
and I also now get to wow, I had never
heard of this camera before. Yeah, I'm so excited to
see what becomes of it. Yeah, the photos, I've got it.
When I buy a roll of film, it takes me
for amfer to get through it.

Speaker 4 (01:13:49):
I used to be that way and now ever, so
it'll be like I go through a period where I'm
shooting so much and then I stop and I'm like, oh,
I'm gonna take my care.

Speaker 1 (01:13:55):
Man.

Speaker 4 (01:13:55):
I've forgotten that there's like half the role used, which
is always so nice because I'm just like, what and
then you get to see.

Speaker 2 (01:14:01):
Oh I love that face. Yeah, that's gotten memories. But
I'll try to power through within the next three months.
I think that's a doable plan.

Speaker 5 (01:14:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:14:09):
I wish I had loaded up with film and then
I'd be like, just take one now, but I did not.

Speaker 2 (01:14:13):
Just take eighteen now. Yeah, it's fine, Demie. I've had
such a wonderful time with you here. Thank you for
being here. And listener. Uh, you know the podcast is over.
You've got to take care of yourself. You've got to
you know, I'm letting you out of the nest. You've
got to learn to fly and I believe you can
do that. If you can't, that's your problem. Take care

(01:14:34):
of yourself. I love you, goodbye, I said, No Gifts
is an exactly right production. Our senior producer is on
Alisa Nelson, and our episodes are beautifully mixed by Ben Tolliday.
The theme song is by miracle Worker Amy Mann, and
we couldn't do it without our booker, Patrick Cottner. You

(01:14:55):
must follow the show on Instagram. At I said No Gifts,
that's where you're going to see pic of all these
wonderful gifts I'm getting. And don't you want to see
the gifts?

Speaker 1 (01:15:04):
Well, I invited you here, thought I made myself perfectly clear.
When you're a guess to my home, you gotta come
to me empty. And I said, no, guests, You're own presences,

(01:15:25):
presents enough that I already had too much stuff, So
how do you dare to surbey me

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