Kate Berlant Disobeys Bridger

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Speaker 1 (00:08):
And I invited you here. I thought I made myself
perfectly clear.

Speaker 2 (00:17):
When you're a.

Speaker 1 (00:17):
Guest to my home, you gotta come to me empty.
And I said, no, guests, your own presences presence enough.
I already had too much stuff, So how did you
dare to surbey me?

Speaker 3 (00:49):
Welcome to I said, no gifts. I'm Britchard Wineger. Oh
what a week? A lot of I mean, let's just
talk about my personal life. What are the highlights for me?
I got an ultrasound and I lost twenty dollars in
a slot machine. So those are the two peaks of

(01:09):
the week for me. And I imagine I can't bring
up me getting an ultrasound without clarifying that turns out
everything's fine. My kidneys and bladder are working perfectly. The
doctor used the word perfectly. So there must be something
else wrong with me, But for right now, the target
concern is not a concern. So everybody relaxed about my kidneys.

(01:32):
That I mean, that sums up almost my you know,
at least on a micro level. My week. The ultras
I will say, the ultrasound. If you've never gotten one,
I've gotten one. You've gotten we'll talk about I guess that. Oh,
we'll get to that. Let's just bring in the well.
First of all, I'll just remind you get on the patreon.
We appreciate everybody coming to the patreon, and we're having

(01:53):
the time of our lives. I'm producing too much content
for the patreon, to be honest, it's a bargain. Get
over there, Patreon, Colm Slash. I said, no gifts. Let's
get into it with our guests. I adore her. Everyone
adores her. It's Kate Burland.

Speaker 2 (02:06):
Oh my god, long time coming.

Speaker 3 (02:08):
Goodness, see, I know, welcome to I said, no gifts.
We've got to talk about ultrasounds.

Speaker 2 (02:12):
Vaginal Oh, vaginal vaginal ultrasounds by choice. I have never
been pregnant and starrying to catch up with me. I
want to brag. I once had no ovarian sispers.

Speaker 3 (02:28):
Okay, oh is that yeah? And is it painful? Like
before you go to the doctor, like you're like, oh god,
something's happening.

Speaker 2 (02:36):
We'll go by the night, throw it from the pain.
I go, hello, next day going and they go yeah,
they wand they go, yep, there you go. I was like, okay,
and that's kind of just fine.

Speaker 3 (02:48):
Yeah, because it's over. Yeah, how fascinating.

Speaker 2 (02:52):
And then let's just say I had another one but ultrasound,
but I've never had over the over over.

Speaker 3 (03:00):
Yah, And it was like, I mean, they had kind
of spaw music. They had the weird AI video of
art that every doctor's office now has. It's just kind
of like supposed to be a serene scene, but you
know that it's nowhere you haven't. I mean, it's not
relaxing to look at because you know it's not. It's
like the computer's idea of Sorrento or whatever. But they

(03:23):
did have music playing and the jail they put on
you is very warm, so if you can like ignore
just the underlying dread and the unknown about what could
be wrong with your body. Yeah, it was kind of
a nice exponent. Although they had two different technicians do it,
Like one did it for a while and then one
took over.

Speaker 2 (03:39):
I like that.

Speaker 3 (03:40):
I don't understand what one could know.

Speaker 2 (03:44):
You got, you got someone trying to figure it out
learning on the job.

Speaker 3 (03:47):
Wow, that's probably what was happening. Someone was shadowing for
the day. Interesting, Yeah, because the second one did my bladder, yeah,
and asked me if my bladder needed to be emptied.
It didn't, but then she insisted that I empty my bladder,
so they had to go into the bathroom and pee
while they all sat there in the dark.

Speaker 2 (04:04):
Oh my god. When I had my ultrasound, similarly, she
was like, well, she's talked down to me. She was like,
you know, it's really important me to go to the
bathroom you completely empty your bladder. And I was like, well,
I thought I had bitch. And that really stuck with me,
and I go, am, I am I cutting out too early?

Speaker 3 (04:22):
How I mean, you would have to cut out so
early for that to be noticeable.

Speaker 2 (04:25):
But I guess, like, yeah, it's like what there's like
I no, no.

Speaker 3 (04:28):
I feel like most people, I'm not.

Speaker 2 (04:30):
Save a little for later, that little treat. Yeah. I
don't know, but it haunted me.

Speaker 3 (04:37):
That's a really weird thing to say. I know, I
don't understand. I can't imagine going into a especially in
a doctor situation, and not just filling it up or
you know, emptying it out.

Speaker 2 (04:47):
I've had I have pea anxiety or like like I've
had to have you know, when you give the sample
the doctor, I'm hanging out by the water cooler me again,
I mean, I take four five minutes.

Speaker 3 (04:57):
I had one of those where I had to go
get like the whole situation, my panel's done, and had
just stupidly peed before and then just was kind of
pacing in the bathroom for fifteen minutes and finally was
able to produce enough pede that they were like, well,
we'll take a look, and it was enough. So you
don't need as much peace.

Speaker 2 (05:16):
You don't need to fill the cup. And a lot
of there's a lot of confusion about that. You don't
need to fill the cup.

Speaker 3 (05:19):
You doesn't need to be overflowing.

Speaker 2 (05:20):
It's almost just like, I think you have just.

Speaker 3 (05:22):
A couple of little well not drops, but yeah, yeah,
a squirt squirt. So I learned that that was a
good lesson to learn, I suppose. But it's terrifying when
you can do that and you think, well, now what
I have to hang out at the hospital.

Speaker 2 (05:36):
For no, no, and you think of them mocking you.

Speaker 3 (05:39):
And yeah, they're all having a lot. The other thing
I did this week was gamble, which I haven't done
in at least a decade. And have you ever gambled?

Speaker 2 (05:52):
It just doesn't take from me. I don't I don't
really like games. I don't really I don't know I did.
And then this is a brag. Where was I? I
was at some casino once and I truly, but what's
the thing where it's the big roulette?

Speaker 3 (06:06):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (06:07):
And I thought it was. I was like forty five
black or whatever, and it landed on it.

Speaker 3 (06:11):
How much did you win?

Speaker 2 (06:11):
One hundred and fifty bucks? I thought that's it.

Speaker 3 (06:14):
See for me, that would be the beginning of a
grand that would be an electric shocked. Well, I was
kind of like one hundred and fifty dollars for free.

Speaker 2 (06:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (06:23):
Are you ever tempted to say roulai rulay? I sometimes
I'll see that and just fred, But I think it's roulette.

Speaker 2 (06:30):
I don't French never got in for me. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (06:34):
How did you take French in high school?

Speaker 2 (06:36):
Fanish?

Speaker 3 (06:36):
Spanish? Yeah? I took French? What a waste of Yeah,
only to be confused about gambling. Yes, performance I'm not
a big gambler either. Jim likes to gamble, but I've
demanded he not gamble since we basically began dating. Yeah,
and we were in Palm Springs and unfortunately we just
had too much time, and he asked very nicely, and

(06:58):
so I thought it through and set down some ground
rools and said I will be in control of every time.

Speaker 2 (07:04):
To a gamble hit a max.

Speaker 3 (07:06):
Yes, And he said I'm only going to take out
two hundred dollars and I'll give you twenty for slot machines.
And I was like, well, who cares. It'll at least
give me something to do. But then I kind of
learned that I don't really even know how to operate
a slot machine, which feels like it should be pretty easy.
It was this crank, you're not using the crank, there's
all the buttons.

Speaker 2 (07:24):
You didn't even get the crank anymore.

Speaker 3 (07:25):
I was tempted to, but then I was like, what
if someone sees me try to use the car all
of these pro gamblers around me. So I was up
by two dollars at one point, and then gambled it
all away because well, I gambled nine dollars away because
I again didn't know how to use a slot machine
and gambled too much. There was a woman having the
time of her life. She had a little dog in

(07:45):
a purse, She had her own glass of wine she
was pouring.

Speaker 2 (07:49):
Yeah, doing it sober is bizarre. Who's sober gambling? Guess
a lot of people. Actually, no, I know, I was
gonna say a lot of people, but who are really addicted?

Speaker 3 (07:55):
All right, Yeah, they're just like smoking completely. I mean
you have to be very away because you're up all night.

Speaker 2 (08:01):
Well, I gamble. I guess I am addicted to gambling,
because that's what. Of course, the social media is, right,
so you're fresh, and it's like you might get a
cookie or you might not. Yeah, it is exact, it's
the same thing. And then they keep you, they keep
you enticed by every little feeder drop a couple likes.
Oh you got a message?

Speaker 3 (08:19):
Make it never start. I'm going to start smoking while
I'm using Instagram.

Speaker 2 (08:23):
No, just kind of.

Speaker 3 (08:26):
I hate it so much and it's inescapable.

Speaker 2 (08:30):
Hell, am on seven day cleanse right now?

Speaker 4 (08:32):
Now?

Speaker 3 (08:32):
Are you really?

Speaker 2 (08:33):
Day's day two?

Speaker 3 (08:34):
Wow? What a time to be on a cleanse.

Speaker 2 (08:36):
I've done it sometimes where I do like months, like
I go thirty days, right then a sixty day.

Speaker 3 (08:41):
How does that feel?

Speaker 2 (08:42):
Immediate relief?

Speaker 3 (08:45):
I was right on this kick probably in like the
last week of February twenty twenty. It's like I've finally
done it. I've kicked it off. And then we went
into lockdown and said, well, no.

Speaker 2 (08:55):
It's over.

Speaker 3 (08:55):
Yeah, I'll look at this for forty eight hours forever, ikare.
I haven't gone back out of it. And it's the
one thing I don't do is look at it immediately
in the morning anymore.

Speaker 2 (09:05):
It's incredible.

Speaker 3 (09:06):
I have to have had breakfast and read something that's
not on my phone. Good for you, But how long
you were seven day cleanse? Why did you pick seven?

Speaker 2 (09:16):
Just a week? Just classic?

Speaker 3 (09:19):
Are you online at all for the next week? Eil?

Speaker 2 (09:23):
And I'll let you know. Sure, I'll go on a website,
I guess, but I just.

Speaker 3 (09:27):
There are only two of them less, there are not
enough websites left. It's so frustrating for me.

Speaker 2 (09:32):
I don't have TikTok okay, I knew if I assigned
up for that's so far. I just should it's over.
So I'm elderly, so I just have Instagram. It's really
embarrassing to be addicted to Instagram.

Speaker 3 (09:46):
Oh, it's so embarrassing. It's not even it's like, you know,
it's like Facebook, Yes, essentially like being on Facebook and engaging.

Speaker 2 (09:54):
I deleted my Facebook way back when, and then I
went back on because I wanted to do marketplace.

Speaker 3 (09:59):
It's the marketplace. It gets you every time.

Speaker 2 (10:01):
And I had to do huge things. I had been
off for ten years maybe more, and it was such
a thing to get back in. I finally had to,
like I got back into my account to see the
people that are still it was it was really I
was like, they're still here and it's the same figures,
it's the same strange people and like my wall and
it's like happy birthday for like the last ten years.

(10:23):
Oh no, we're just they go and I have to say,
I was like seeing people go, this person's dead, this
person's married, this person. I mean, it was crazy.

Speaker 3 (10:32):
That's like going into a haunted house.

Speaker 2 (10:33):
I couldn't believe it.

Speaker 3 (10:34):
Did you look at like your most recent message you
or post from a friend, like what was the last
thing somebody?

Speaker 2 (10:40):
I didn't. I saw some messages and it was all
just very banal.

Speaker 5 (10:47):
There was it just but.

Speaker 2 (10:48):
It was a strange thing of like that, and I
should leave Instagram tomorrow of course, never return. And then
you go back on ten years and you go, oh look,
I instead I was living my life for ten years.
Because I go back. I opened the Facebook room. You
guys are still in here. Clanging against the walls, like.

Speaker 3 (11:05):
This is my big problem because there are people on
Facebook i'd like to, you know, spy on Yeah, they're
like that's the sort of person. I do want to
see how they're like behaving on the internet. And unfortunately
I'm not on there anymore, and I know that they're
just mutating there.

Speaker 2 (11:18):
It's very strange on there. It's like everyone's like it's
like my fishing trip, like my daughter's engaged.

Speaker 3 (11:22):
Which is kind of.

Speaker 2 (11:25):
Out of touchness.

Speaker 3 (11:26):
Yeah, there's I feel like there's probably less careerism on
Facebook definitely.

Speaker 2 (11:30):
Well, no, you're not on there to get work.

Speaker 3 (11:32):
The only like unless you're trying to sell supplements or
like you're, yeah, whatever's filling your garage at the moment
that MLM type sales. I didn't get back on. I
used my sister's account to get into the marketplace.

Speaker 2 (11:43):
It's good.

Speaker 3 (11:44):
I was talking to somebody about Marketplace recently and why
it's like overtaking Craigslist and we couldn't come to any conclusion.
Is there I feel like I still will just go
to Craigslist.

Speaker 2 (11:54):
Craigslist. I know I used to be really I used
to be on there.

Speaker 3 (11:57):
M h.

Speaker 2 (11:58):
I haven't in a minute.

Speaker 3 (11:59):
It's still the same website used.

Speaker 2 (12:01):
To Miss Connections is gone though, so it's been gone
for like probably fifteen years.

Speaker 3 (12:05):
What a shame? Why did they get rin away?

Speaker 2 (12:06):
Maybe not fifteen years, but a long time.

Speaker 3 (12:09):
Do something dangerous happened?

Speaker 2 (12:11):
No, I'm sure, but I think it was just like
they're like, this is not a sex website, you know,
or something. I'm sure it was that fascinating. I posted
a misconnection once. Who's an explosive story. I'm premiering it
on the podcast. I don't think I've ever talked about
this on air, and I was here the right to
repeat this on my podcast. I posted a misconnection. I

(12:33):
want to say. I mean, this is fifteen years ago
and I still.

Speaker 3 (12:38):
Have that being balked from the website or deleted.

Speaker 2 (12:42):
And I was living in New York City at the time,
and I used to constantly look at miss Connections. For
those of you who don't know, it was so sweet.
It'd be like I was on the sixth train uptown
at nine point thirty. You were reading this book. We
were looking at each other. I would love to get
coffee whatever, really cute stuff. And I was in my
permit I was living alone at the time, and I

(13:02):
started to feel dizzy in a way that feared me.
NIL one dial immediately now one and then I'm talking
and they're like hi. I'm like, hi, I feel dizzy,
and they're like, okay, you know, sit down, whatever is
there anyone around? No alone. Immediately as I'm talking to her,

(13:23):
I'm actually okay. I start to rese and by I go,
you know what, I'm okay. She goes, We've already dispatched
paramedics and I don't have to. And then the speed
at which I still understand how they get in. They
have like a universal key, Like how.

Speaker 3 (13:35):
Do they get into the building.

Speaker 2 (13:37):
I'm not kidding. It felt like moments later I hear
I opened my door. Up the stairwell comes three cakes
and I was like, and I go, sorry, sorry, I
think I'm actually okay. They come in and I was
just like, I mean, I feel weird, but you know
who doesn't, you know? We all feel weird, right, I start,
and they're like, so you keep saying you feel weird,
We're gonna have to take you in. I was like no, please, please, no,

(13:58):
And I was like, I want to do the ambulance
right but seven hundred bucks whatever.

Speaker 3 (14:01):
Of course it's very expensive.

Speaker 2 (14:02):
So I was like, no, please, just like I'm okay, really,
I'm okay. So they sit with me for a second.
I remember I had a stack of posters of like
postcards for my comedy show at the time. I go,
you guys like comedy, come on down, you know so,
And of course one of the paramedics was cute.

Speaker 3 (14:16):
Okay, okay, and I'm sure there was.

Speaker 2 (14:19):
No connection, and then so they leave. I posted a
misconnection for the paramedic any response, of course not, I
don't think. I think the energy was in one direction.

Speaker 3 (14:29):
And then but you probably felt it because the paramedic
is supposed to care. Of course, they're supposed to give
this feeling of safety, and you're going to be okay, yeah,
who can resist that?

Speaker 2 (14:39):
And I'll never forget because I you know, felt woozy afterwards.
I remember I walked a few blocks to a restaurant,
got a veggie burger, felt all better. I was hungry.

Speaker 3 (14:47):
You were your blood. That's why you were so cranky
with the paramedic.

Speaker 2 (14:52):
Exactly, I'm onry.

Speaker 3 (14:54):
What what's a paramedics uniform? I'm trying to picture that.
It's not like scrubs. Is it a jumpsuit?

Speaker 2 (15:00):
Was it a fireman? Yeah, it's just like pants. I
don't know.

Speaker 3 (15:03):
Oh yeah, maybe it's like a dark pant and a
T shirt. Right right, that's a good look for I
mean that's just a good street wear. Yeah, absolutely, Wow,
and no response. I wonder where he is now? Is
an ambulance? Right? Seven hundred dollars? Is that what we think?

Speaker 2 (15:18):
I don't know. It fluctuates with inflation. I think at
the time the number seven hundred was burned to.

Speaker 3 (15:23):
Me right on at least would you look into that
because I actually, I mean present day, how much is
that novelty? Seven hundred dollars? I mean unless to find
out seven hundred dollars, I could get the community to
reach out and like pitching for.

Speaker 5 (15:37):
Me to ride in an right now in New York City,
it's nine hundred.

Speaker 3 (15:41):
Dollars one hundred. I mean, that's not that much inflation wise.
That's estate that's been pretty steady. You know. You look
at a price of eggs, that's.

Speaker 2 (15:48):
So crazy, throwing carton of eggs and we're talking, Wow.

Speaker 3 (15:53):
That's wild. Yeah, I did you did you ever see
anything that felt like it might be a misconnection pointing
to you.

Speaker 2 (15:59):
No, no, next question. I don't think so.

Speaker 3 (16:05):
I feel like that. That's got to happen pretty often though.
People are like, well, this could be me, and then
they're reaching out to the person.

Speaker 2 (16:11):
And bothering that it's not me. Yeah it wasn't you.

Speaker 3 (16:14):
Have you ever been in an ambulance? No? No, no,
I never question.

Speaker 2 (16:19):
Yeah, where's what?

Speaker 3 (16:22):
My god? This is all?

Speaker 2 (16:26):
Okay, does this take what?

Speaker 3 (16:28):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (16:28):
That's what.

Speaker 2 (16:29):
That's what. That's what. That's what knocked on it, particleboard,
that's what.

Speaker 3 (16:31):
Okay, then we're fine. We're absolutely fine. Are you superstitious
like that? Are you really?

Speaker 1 (16:39):
I am?

Speaker 3 (16:40):
That's the one thing I do.

Speaker 2 (16:41):
I knock wood and spilled salt.

Speaker 3 (16:43):
I'll go, I'll do that, you will. What are you
supposed to do that for?

Speaker 1 (16:47):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (16:48):
Just like being cursed.

Speaker 3 (16:49):
I guess somebody curses you when you throw.

Speaker 2 (16:52):
Oh, if you spill salt, then you have to throw
it over your left is either left or right shoulder?
I do both because I never checked.

Speaker 3 (16:57):
I didn't know this.

Speaker 4 (16:58):
Ye.

Speaker 2 (17:00):
Actually it's weird you bring it up because today a
little salt like I lost control of the shaker a
little bit. Someone on my hand I go, does that count?

Speaker 3 (17:06):
And I just kind of yeah, wow, I don't know
that I've ever spilt salt. Salt is a thing you're like,
you're supposed to constantly. Yes, the point of the entire
shaker interesting. Well, I'm not going to start now. I'll
just keep knocking on wood.

Speaker 2 (17:23):
And yeah, you're fine at this point.

Speaker 3 (17:24):
Whatever. What else has been going on in your life?

Speaker 1 (17:26):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (17:27):
What's going on?

Speaker 3 (17:28):
Well?

Speaker 2 (17:29):
I saw a ghost?

Speaker 3 (17:30):
You saw a ghost kind of where?

Speaker 2 (17:33):
Well, here's what I'll tell you. I had a ghost.
I was staying in Bend, Oregon.

Speaker 3 (17:37):
Okay, spooky.

Speaker 2 (17:41):
Apparently, but I was there for two nights. I had
a show and I went to this place. I was like,
I'm not a ghost person.

Speaker 3 (17:49):
I'm not that people know what is until they've seen
and I'm very like.

Speaker 2 (17:51):
I don't want to see them. But I went in,
went to this room. The point is fell asleep, mill
of the night, eyes open, like, oh no, I woke
myself up. Listen what I'm gonna try to say. It
was weird, creepy stuff. I'd never get nightmares, rolling nightmares,
lights going on, really fucking weird stuff. And I was scared,
like waking up, which is I travel alone constantly. I'm

(18:12):
not like afraid. In the night, I was awake, like
arms crossed, like like really freaking out mood rooms okay,
next day scared, I'm sorry to say this word and
the energy scared like I was like, I'm scared in
this room, like this is off. I'm gonna just cut
forward and say found out today found Google reviews people
saying this place is haunted.

Speaker 3 (18:35):
When you spoke to the hotel staff, did you say
I think my room is haunted or did you just
say the So I was.

Speaker 2 (18:39):
Too scared to say it there because I had another
night left right and I changed my flight to like
seven am. I wanted to get out of there. I
was like, I don't want to go the whole place.
I was like, this is like a bad place. I
don't like the energy. Again, the hotel was well run.
Everyone was sweet, but so I eventually, then when I
got back, I called the hotel and I was like,
this is really funny, but has anyone ever talked about

(19:01):
like being haunted? And the guy I spoke to was
like sweet, young guy. He's like, I've actually only been
here three months, so I was like, oh, But then
he talked to him and he goes, well, when I
got my first tour, they did tell me like, oh,
this is an area of the hotel where people kind
of war report stuff. I was like, what so yeah,
And then since then I've seen a Google review that

(19:23):
said do not stay here haunted. Okay, and then another
person who said my partner woke up in the middle
of the night screaming help and then walked to like
a window and was.

Speaker 3 (19:32):
Like, is there any theory about where the like the
spirit came from, like a murdered woman or.

Speaker 2 (19:39):
I of course did auditions. I saw a couple and
I'm not going to get into it here. It's something
that I'm working on privately. But I'm not a ghost person.
And I said, don't I don't want to see you ooh,
And I said that lag, I know I'm not open.

Speaker 3 (19:52):
See this is where I you and I differ. Yeah,
I would, I mean, I feel you want to. I
would be so thrilled. It would be some proof of
suf thing to me.

Speaker 2 (20:00):
It's just I don't know. I feel scared to see
the conjuring thoughts. Do I want to see the conjuring
post this?

Speaker 3 (20:08):
Because I have have you seen any of The Conjuring.

Speaker 2 (20:11):
How many other like five of them at least six
really Lily Taylor.

Speaker 3 (20:16):
Patrick Wilson and Vera.

Speaker 2 (20:18):
Oh she's very ghosts.

Speaker 3 (20:20):
Yeah, they're very you know what I want to see,
thank you.

Speaker 2 (20:23):
I want to rewatch The Others starring Nicole Kidman.

Speaker 3 (20:25):
I love The Others. That's one of the all time
ghosts movies. Yeah, it's like I don't really a horror movie. Yeah,
in theater theaters in New York. I want to say
that was a big one where they you know, like
the ad campaign spoiled the whole thing. They were like
and the twist endings just like, just let me find
out that something turns.

Speaker 2 (20:41):
Those were the olden days when trailers were four minutes
long and they just showed you the whole movie.

Speaker 3 (20:45):
Yeah, I appreciate it. No, I love the Others. I
love the Haunting of hill House or it's just the haunting.
Have you ever seen that? The night? I think it's
like a I think sixteen to three. It is terrifying.
That's scary, It's genuine. Yeah, it's really just like scared me.
Of course, I think that probably stood in with ghost
stuff and I'm when a child actor is good in

(21:07):
a movie. I feel especially scared because I feel like
that's a you feel the vulnerability or something that.

Speaker 2 (21:12):
They're too close to the spirit world already. Yes, the
child act already like of the another world, and they're
like child actors to me? Are they prove that reincarnation
is real? And like that's some like fifty five year
old actor who's now twelve, and it's like, here's my
big shot.

Speaker 3 (21:32):
That is the dancing of yeah, Shirley.

Speaker 2 (21:35):
Temple like or just any of these kids, any of
these kids on and if you if you work in
sorry to say it, Hollywook, you know, every now and
then you see one of these kid actors. Yeah, oh
thanks man, Yeah, I'm good. It's like you aren't twelve,
you're fifty two.

Speaker 3 (21:51):
When you feel the trained networking, like the parents like
hammering that into the kid, that's the world.

Speaker 2 (21:58):
Jacqueline Novac, this is her idea, so I can't steal it,
but she said children should not be allowed in movies.
Adults should play children.

Speaker 3 (22:07):
That's a great idea, and I've hurt somebody else that
I unfortunately can't credit them. They said, that's the one
use of AI that makes.

Speaker 2 (22:12):
Sense, right, right, right, get the kids up.

Speaker 3 (22:14):
All children in movies should be AI.

Speaker 2 (22:16):
Why not you're taking your kids to moviesit what strong?

Speaker 3 (22:20):
What are you doing?

Speaker 2 (22:21):
It's so crazy.

Speaker 3 (22:22):
It's like we've just seen case after case after case.
It's like you think you're gonna be one that your
child escapes. How horrible it is?

Speaker 2 (22:30):
Only I was Mary Kate Ashley Olson. They are, they
are the exception. But they went on, they went through it,
and now they have the row and they've done an
incredible job. And they have and they've they snuck out
of the public eye. They have secret in private lives.
Everyone else dead or near death.

Speaker 3 (22:49):
Yeah, pretty much hanging by a thread. It's such a
small pool where it's like, oh, now they're just an
adult and they can live there, and they have to.
I feel like their child acting career really has to
fizzle out pretty quickly in order for them to be like, yeah,
then they like end up in a real middle school
or what have you, rather than learning in some unit
on set.

Speaker 2 (23:09):
From hearing Kulkan another success story.

Speaker 3 (23:11):
Oh, he's a fantastic success story. It's really rare, and
I'm sure he went through it. Sure well. Actually he
kind of just had a lot of tasteful choices the entire.

Speaker 2 (23:19):
Time well managed.

Speaker 3 (23:20):
Well, that's a family that knows they had a they
had another child that went through it.

Speaker 2 (23:26):
They probably said, let's strategize on this one.

Speaker 3 (23:28):
Yeah, let's take our So instead he wins the race.
He came out on top. He absolutely came out on top. Well,
I feel like there's something else we should talk about.
Let's see, it's something I don't want to talk about.
I was excited to have you here on.

Speaker 2 (23:46):
The podcast today, Kate, Yeah, until I.

Speaker 3 (23:49):
Thought cable come by. We'll have an absolutely fantastic conversation.
Nothing will go wrong, Yeah, and then we'll move on
with our days. Yes, things are hard enough already. Yeah,
so you know the podcast is called I said no gifts,
and so I was a little surprised when you kind
of forced your way in here holding what I assume

(24:10):
is I haven't seen you in a while. That's true.

Speaker 2 (24:12):
So I felt like it was only appropriate after so
much time.

Speaker 3 (24:16):
Right, it's right, Okay, Well that's that's a nice way
of going this. Yeah, and it's not too big, and
it's in kind of a velvety looking bag. How can
I resist? Should I open it? Here? On the podcast?

Speaker 2 (24:28):
I mean, why not, why not let me just a
little something, just a little something.

Speaker 3 (24:36):
Oh, this is a material that is hard for me.

Speaker 2 (24:39):
Yeah, what is cheap? It's a cheap material. It's poor
man's velvet. Yeah, it's a I would have an emergency.

Speaker 3 (24:50):
What do you is that velveteen?

Speaker 2 (24:52):
Is that it's below velveteen?

Speaker 3 (24:54):
Is velveteen? Cheaper velvet?

Speaker 2 (24:56):
I think it goes velvet velveteen? And then whatever that is?

Speaker 3 (25:01):
Okay, well I'm going to open it here. Well that
sounds nice. Okay, we're pulling it. Oh my god, what
I mean? I'm actually not entirely sure if this is
real fish or like a gag tin fish.

Speaker 2 (25:18):
Another element of this which is kind of crazy. Doesn't
it look like one's missing? It hasn't been opened? Yeah,
looks so no, no, no, here's what So I get this.
I go wait, and I said to my partner, I go,
did you take a chocolate?

Speaker 1 (25:33):
They go no?

Speaker 2 (25:34):
And then I know it's completely sealed. It's never been opened.
So this is just poorly or I think something happened.
This is limited a ghostly removal of a sardine.

Speaker 3 (25:43):
I don't want to get off this topic too. I
want to come back to this, but this reminds me
of a time you were in Ireland in a hotel. I.

Speaker 2 (25:52):
Oh, you're right, yeah, I've had a couple encounters happened.

Speaker 3 (25:55):
Then can we do you mind talking about that?

Speaker 2 (25:57):
Because I want to remember No, I want to remember
this and these This is the golden age of Twitter
where it was you Mega name and Rob Delane and
you three were smoking cigars and everyone was please retweet?
Can I please get a follow?

Speaker 3 (26:12):
Friday?

Speaker 2 (26:13):
You guys were the I remember I was working. I
was an assistant. I was working for this woman. I
was her assistant. I was mad at my job. I
had to do like I was like talking to her account.
I was like, oh, I had to do like Xcel
like quick books. No, no, no no, and I would
get and then she stared I didn't know what I

(26:35):
was doing with like the tax stuff. I was like,
and then the account it was like, what's you like?
They uncovered that I had no idea what. I was
just entirely on them, but I completely but at that job,
I would be like on Twitter. And I remember once
Rob Delaney retweeted me and I was at work and
I was like, it was like it was all about Yeah,

(26:55):
I was like, here we go. I was in duble
Lynn doing a comedy festival, okay, and oh my god,
what was it? Okay? So it was that I left
my room to like go do something, and I came
back and there was a pair of red.

Speaker 3 (27:16):
Underwear, oh men or women's underwear was.

Speaker 2 (27:21):
Women's okay, either on the bed somewhere where I was like,
what the fuck is like it was like I had
been there for and I remember it was a thing
because if I'm saying in a hotel for a few days,
I don't get like the room turned over. It's like
kind of rare that I will do that unless I'm
saying somewhere really high end and I want to, you know,

(27:43):
I have to give all the whole experience. But if
it's just kind of a hotel, I'm like, I don't
need my bed, she's changed your towels. I'm here for
two nights, three nights whatever. So I knew no one
had been in there, but there was this really ostentatious
pair of red underwear, maybe hanging on the back of
the door something where I was like, and it scared
me because I was like, someone was in here.

Speaker 3 (28:03):
It feels like such an invent.

Speaker 2 (28:04):
I feel like there was another detail that I'm forgetting
because this was ten years ago. Everything I'm saying is
ten Sorry.

Speaker 3 (28:09):
To ask you to just recall this, but like, no,
for whatever reason, a missing fish made me think of something,
and I.

Speaker 2 (28:14):
Called the front desk. I think, I I you know what,
I bet where this is saved somewhere. I believe I
was chronicling it on Instagram Stories when stories had just launched.

Speaker 3 (28:22):
Oh my god, and I mean speaking of people reigning
supreme your early days of Instagram Stories for unlike anything,
they should have shut it down after that, you know.

Speaker 2 (28:31):
So I was like, I gotta get back to story.
I gotta go. I gotta start having fun with Instagram again,
getting back into those stories. Wow.

Speaker 3 (28:40):
Well, I'm sorry to bring up the memory, but I yeah,
that just there was this flash in my mind of
a haunted Irish hotel room.

Speaker 2 (28:46):
You know, I've had some strange things that happened.

Speaker 3 (28:49):
It's weird to walk into a whole hotel room and
something's changed like that you've already been in, because it
feels like, oh, I've almost walked into another dimension. This
is the same space, but just slightly altered. A real like, yeah,
one of those picture things. Which thing is different?

Speaker 2 (29:04):
Do you think this is weird?

Speaker 3 (29:05):
Really quick?

Speaker 2 (29:06):
At the recent haunting that I had the hotel, I
switched rooms right. I went into the second room and
it was in a different building, different part of the building.
I go, okay, I'm safe. This is different, same room,
but like inverted, you know, like I was in there
and I had spent like hours resting. I'll call it

(29:26):
in bed and I leave, I come back. No one's
been in there. The digital clock next to the bed
was blinking three forty four. It was like ten o'clock
at night blinking three forty four am, blinking, blinking, And
I go, I would have seen that if the clock
had been doing that, is that scary.

Speaker 3 (29:46):
Power go out or something that is? That's just not
a thing that you know, after already having a haunting experience.

Speaker 2 (29:53):
At three am, that's when I woke up. It's like
a cartoon.

Speaker 3 (29:55):
I was going to say, if that's when you.

Speaker 2 (29:57):
Woke up right before three am, I was like, woke
up the whole thing. The light's going off. I go, no, no, no, no,
no no no, it was three am, just before three am.

Speaker 3 (30:06):
There's something you should get in touch with these other
people who feel like they've been haunted.

Speaker 2 (30:10):
Well, I actually went to the Google review today and
I try and I want to reach out to him
and go what happened?

Speaker 3 (30:14):
Right, you should start putting the pieces together. He might
have another details.

Speaker 2 (30:18):
I could have a whole set of podcast here.

Speaker 3 (30:20):
I can have ah, this is a mini series. This
is a limited series for podcasts. I just woke up
screaming because I had a Charlie horse. You had that
and were of course there's no I mean, I'm.

Speaker 2 (30:31):
Sure, Oh it's terrible. Was your foot doing the thing
where it's.

Speaker 3 (30:34):
Like, yeah, of course and there's no undoing it?

Speaker 2 (30:37):
Read just scream screaming.

Speaker 3 (30:41):
It's so crazy, horrible for you. Anyway, let's get back
to these fish. I'm very curious about this entire situation.

Speaker 2 (30:47):
Well, wanting it back and silly Okay. Price tag by
the way, thirty two dollars.

Speaker 3 (30:52):
Thirty two dollars.

Speaker 2 (30:53):
That's pretty fucking expensive.

Speaker 3 (30:55):
That's a that's that's in the top ten of this podcast.

Speaker 2 (30:58):
Probably thirty two dollars.

Speaker 3 (31:00):
That's eight dollars of fish.

Speaker 2 (31:02):
It's crazy. Okay, So this is a really cute item, right,
It really does look like one's missing. I think just
they got shooken up.

Speaker 3 (31:10):
Okay, seems like five is a better number.

Speaker 2 (31:13):
I got this in an artisanal gift shop. I want
to say the last Christmas?

Speaker 3 (31:18):
Okay?

Speaker 2 (31:19):
And I was going to give this to what's the date? Quick?

Speaker 3 (31:23):
Today is October? Nope? Wrong fully wrong on September nineteenth,
Nomber September eight.

Speaker 2 (31:31):
Best if used by September fifteenth, twenty twenty five. So
we're still well.

Speaker 3 (31:35):
Within That is a lie. Ye, No, of course, expiration's
a lie.

Speaker 2 (31:40):
I cracked eggs. Want any go best of? I go
best of your mother, bitch, I'm meeting you for another month.

Speaker 3 (31:44):
Do you know how you can tell if an egg
is good? If it floats, put it in the water.

Speaker 2 (31:47):
If it floats, it's.

Speaker 3 (31:48):
If it floats, it's bad. If it stands up, it's
on the edge, And if it sinks completely it's good.

Speaker 2 (31:53):
Also, I think with eggs, crack it open. If it
smells crazy, I don't use it.

Speaker 3 (31:57):
That's really the ultimate test of anything. If it smells
like rotten garbage.

Speaker 2 (32:01):
Don't put it in your mouth. Okay. So I'm gonna
take again thirty two dollars. Okay. So I got this
in an artisanal shop. Okay, I got two of them,
and I go, you know what this is. I saw
this and I go, this is a perfect little come
over to someone's house for dinner the holidays.

Speaker 3 (32:19):
It's got those shiny red packagers.

Speaker 2 (32:21):
I just thought this was cute. I think, actually, you
know what I was gonna do, and this is really sad.
I was gonna send this to Amy Sidaris and I
never did this.

Speaker 3 (32:26):
It feels right of her aunt.

Speaker 2 (32:28):
So this is like an Amy Sidaris like. I was like,
I'm gonna send this to Amy. It didn't happen, So sorry, Amy.
And this is in line with a broader theme in
my life, which is gifts that I purchased to give
someone sure never give them. So right now, I want
to say, for maybe a year, if there's been a
little child size parasol propped up next to my front door,
I was going to give that to my friend's daughter

(32:48):
for her birthday. The birthday passed. Now the other birthday
just happened. I go, I'm finally going to give her
the parasol. Still have it. I bought baby, I bought
purchase baby clothes for babies. The baby's on five. I
can't no I got. It's a couple of things. I
need a full time assistance. I mean, how do how
are people.

Speaker 3 (33:07):
Saying, I really I forget. Anything that's not like always
in my bag will be forgotten.

Speaker 1 (33:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (33:14):
Anytime I go to the dentist, they say make sure
to bring your mouth guard. It's not coming with me.
They're not cleaning that. So it's all up to me.
So I understand this feeling of like because it's not
entirely essential. A friend asked me to buy them sunscreen
on vacation I was Japan. She's like an SPF, there's
really good. This was five six months ago.

Speaker 2 (33:34):
I did the same thing Aqua.

Speaker 3 (33:36):
Yes, it's good SPF.

Speaker 2 (33:38):
See, I know my shit. I bought Bora Aqua for
a friend and never gave it to her. Wow, I
when to Japan, and as you do give her friends
give your friends, they're never getting them.

Speaker 3 (33:49):
Because they're mostly in essential items.

Speaker 2 (33:52):
It's a sweet thing because you're like, oh, the key chain.
I'll buy this from my friend. It's a sweet thing,
but you got to go the extra home give it
to them. That's where I circuit complete, Like this was
so sweet, and I have this I have this dream
of myself. Dear Amy, Merry Christmas.

Speaker 3 (34:10):
Love you now? Would you have had to taken it
with you to New York to give to her or
mail to her?

Speaker 2 (34:14):
I was going to mail it.

Speaker 3 (34:14):
See that's him. That's never happened. There's no chance that's
happening unless there's like some business agreement where they can
like write you a bad view. Yeah. Yeah, you're not
going to the post office to send those.

Speaker 2 (34:25):
I have a post office I love, and so I
have almost a superstitious attachment to them. Like that's where
I go. Okay, I feel like any other male, I
can't do it right. And so I could have gone there,
but I didn't.

Speaker 5 (34:37):
And so this ended up.

Speaker 2 (34:40):
In my home and I've been looking at it and
I went, okay, oh I can dinner party.

Speaker 3 (34:46):
No.

Speaker 1 (34:46):
No.

Speaker 2 (34:47):
And so I was looking at what to bring you today.
I wanted to bring you something, and I looked, you know,
there were some options. There was some skincare sure, and
I thought, and I go, no, this and this is
the promise of a person that I I hope to be,
and I think I could still become that person.

Speaker 3 (35:02):
This feels like a nice two dollars thirty two dollars my.

Speaker 2 (35:05):
God, price point, I mean, what is that?

Speaker 3 (35:07):
I call it fifty truly thirty two dollars?

Speaker 2 (35:10):
Round up, it's called it forty.

Speaker 3 (35:11):
It's already the price is already out of control.

Speaker 2 (35:14):
That not being nine dollars, what would you guess nine dollars?

Speaker 3 (35:16):
I would have guessed this was fourteen, because you know
it's got the little it's true sweet, ha's sweet tech. Yeah,
and who God knows what the quality of chocolate is,
but maybe a tie. It probably is decent.

Speaker 2 (35:29):
Where's the chocolate from?

Speaker 3 (35:30):
Let's see here? This is truely space is.

Speaker 2 (35:34):
German?

Speaker 3 (35:35):
I'm not seeing Let's see, oh, France. It's probably a.

Speaker 2 (35:39):
Good cho chocolate. And the quality of the sardines is
all the details detail, it's gorgeous.

Speaker 3 (35:46):
I'll have to post some sort of picture of that.
But this is like a real They're shiny, like a sargine.

Speaker 2 (35:50):
They're beautiful.

Speaker 3 (35:50):
You wonder where that I guess chocolate's shiny. So that works.
And now I'm like, should we open these or should
this be?

Speaker 2 (35:57):
Should we try one?

Speaker 3 (35:58):
Oh? And do you know what I'm noticing? There are
five in here?

Speaker 2 (36:01):
So yeah, one just got dislodged.

Speaker 3 (36:04):
Yeah, so I've this whole time. I thought it was
just but they're just packed in in a way that like,
do you think we should open them?

Speaker 2 (36:14):
I'm completely torn. What do you want to do?

Speaker 3 (36:17):
I think we should open them. I feel like we should.

Speaker 2 (36:20):
Chocolate girl like me. I think they're factory sealed.

Speaker 3 (36:26):
Factory sealed with a piece of Scotch day. Okay, oh
my god, Okay, look at that. Okay, we'll put them
back in place.

Speaker 2 (36:35):
Oh, here's one got loose.

Speaker 3 (36:38):
And do you know what I'm noticing already is that
it's even more it's the tin is the I thought
they were painted like fish, but detail, how sweet that is?

Speaker 2 (36:52):
Yeah, that's good solid chocolate.

Speaker 3 (36:56):
That's no, that's good French chocolate.

Speaker 2 (37:00):
Hmmm, you know there is first I go see after taste,
you go, it's French.

Speaker 3 (37:05):
There's no other chalkiness.

Speaker 2 (37:07):
This is not a CVS Easter Bunny.

Speaker 3 (37:09):
The worst a Russell Stover's the absolute bottom of the barrel.

Speaker 2 (37:13):
You know.

Speaker 3 (37:14):
I mean a lot of you United States chocolate and
now was not chocolate. They have to call it chocolate.
Echo you read about that. Ye, no, I guess there's
some international standard. And because they're just feeling it with
blavor and it's wax or.

Speaker 5 (37:26):
What have you.

Speaker 2 (37:27):
Well, isn't that what we That's what those countries become.
It's chocolate.

Speaker 3 (37:31):
It used to be chocolate, I know, used to be
pure chocolate and.

Speaker 2 (37:34):
Now chocolate product.

Speaker 3 (37:36):
This is very good. Do you eat? Are you a
tin fish person?

Speaker 2 (37:40):
I kind of Sometimes I get really I'm a tuna girl, okay,
but the actual sardines, like the actual fish. A couple
of times I go, oh yeah, and then it's scary
when it's the head and the spine, and you go,
I don't like the spine.

Speaker 3 (37:57):
I don't like the idea that they're I'm crunching on bones.

Speaker 2 (38:00):
Don't really like that. And I in Kyoto once, I
of course did eat. There was a thing where it
was like the whole fish and it's just a little
I'll do it.

Speaker 3 (38:10):
But that's another very American thing though. We don't want
to see the four want to get the chicken finger? Yeah,
you don't want it. Want it's separated from.

Speaker 5 (38:17):
What they don't want, the carcass.

Speaker 3 (38:19):
Yeah right right, Yeah. I like a tuna. Are you
putting anything in or eating a plane tuna? Yeah? Lemon
all over, I mean I do it.

Speaker 2 (38:26):
I'll do a mustard. I mean I do a real
chop them up, salad, herbs, capers, oh wow, red onion, shallots,
and what is the you're not? It depends on if
I'm in a cut.

Speaker 3 (38:44):
I uh, I love a tuna with just lemon or whatever.
But the mayonnaise. I don't know that I've ever actually
even eaten that. I've been circling a tuna melt at
a restaurant. Which restaurant my favorite Clark Street diner. So good,
it's good.

Speaker 2 (38:59):
I don't know. I just know that it's good.

Speaker 3 (39:01):
I know the waiter that I I mean, we're there
so often. She's like, you have to try it, but
and we kind of came to an agreement where she's like,
you can send something back if you don't like it,
and that kind of took some of the pressure.

Speaker 2 (39:12):
You can't this happens, is what they love to tell you.
If you don't like it, it's a cocktail thing. Because
I'll have a cocktail at restaurant. I go, oh, is this?
They go, if you don't like it, send it back?
I go, Now, I really can't because now you've gone
doors open. What could possibly be scary about that? So

(39:32):
now there's a real gun to my head.

Speaker 3 (39:34):
And so I can't have you ever sent anything back?

Speaker 2 (39:37):
Relish in it all the time, not all the time,
and it's scary, and but it's one of the great accomplishments.
That's I think of adulthood that if I look at
my life and I go, what's changed? I can send
something back now. And by the way, it's rare, and
it's an emergency. It's you have something has to be
really wrong. I'm not doing I don't like this, of

(40:00):
course not, but when it's an occasion, it has to
be egregious, like like I did not order this. That's
because I used to just even suck that down.

Speaker 3 (40:08):
But I got what I got. You know.

Speaker 2 (40:10):
It was like I was very yeah, I was very like,
it won't be me. I won't rock the boat. But
now I'm trying to think of a good sendback. I
had there anything, Yeah, I want to send it back.

Speaker 1 (40:24):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (40:24):
Actually I ordered a disgusting steak at a disgusting restaurant.
Here's the thing. I went to a place where you
go for happy hour cocktails and like French fries mistake
and it was a huge thing. And I go, I'm
going to get the full at Mignon and it was
so everything else. It was like happy hour burger is
ten dollars, right, happy hour fries are five dollars. I go,

(40:45):
I'll get the forty five dollars, fulllaming eye. I knew
it was a mistake, but I was hungry, and I
was like, I don't I just it came and I
said medium, because I go, I want to do a
medium right here. It arrived rare and it tasted like
dog meat. It tasted. I was like, this is a
frozen smart and final steak from three years ago. I mean,
I was like, this is not good. And as a result,

(41:05):
I barely touched it, but I sliced in I go
and so I said. I was like, and the guy
was so slammed. It's a happy hour joint. He's like, what,
They're already like steak like it was crazy. And then
I went, sorry to do this, but it was just
so rare, right, and he looked at huh. I went
back to the thing comes back dog meat on the plate,

(41:27):
and so I had to send that back and yeah,
but that was the last time.

Speaker 3 (41:32):
So they brought it back another steak back to you,
the same steak, and you didn't eat it. You just said,
I took a by it.

Speaker 2 (41:38):
My friends had a couple of bites and we all
agreed that it was like.

Speaker 3 (41:41):
That's the big problem when you send something back and
they're like, well, we'll bring back the same thing, but
because there might be multiple elements you don't like about
it and the thing that you're sending it back for,
they'll bring it back and that's gone. But now you
still don't like that. Yeah, I just sent back a steak.
I've never done that before, but I realized that within
the last two years or so. Like when I was
a waiter and people unless they were truly horrible and

(42:01):
we're sending everything back. It was like I didn't care.

Speaker 2 (42:04):
Well, that's the thing that I always I talk. I go,
I'm being lovely, I'm being polite. I'm not going, what
the fuck is this? Like, I'm being I am so sorry,
and it's not egregious. If I'm sending it back, I'm
sending right for a reason.

Speaker 3 (42:17):
You want to get the thing you pay for. That's
like I was. I had had maybe twenty percent of
the meal, and I was thinking, am I just going
to sit here for the rest of my meal and
not enjoy this? And then pay for it.

Speaker 2 (42:27):
I can't do that anymore. It's not fair. We're too old.

Speaker 3 (42:31):
Yeah, if an ingredient is missing, I'll let them know.

Speaker 2 (42:34):
And if an ingredient's missing, what do you mean.

Speaker 3 (42:36):
Well, okay, now it's gonna sound like I send everything back.
But this is very I have to say, it's very rare.

Speaker 2 (42:41):
Your head is just a tune them out. Now, I'm hungry.
I want to tune them out. I was just looking
at all I see is a Clark Street.

Speaker 3 (42:46):
That company owes me some sort of compensation. You talk
about them all the time, although I found out recently
that their T shirt they sell is forty dollars, which
I wasn't planning on buying one in the first place.
But that feels like a lot of five. Yes, but
people buy a T shirt. Everybody needs a little extra money.

Speaker 2 (43:04):
Okay, miss the ingredient.

Speaker 3 (43:06):
I ordered a club and it didn't come with bacon.
Well that's you know, that's a There are only a few.
And they say they were lovely about us, We're so sorry.
Not only did they take it back, but they clearly
remade the this this to me, I was like, well,
you could just go back and just flop it up
and throw the whole plate had been redone.

Speaker 2 (43:24):
I feel like Clerk Street, you're getting high quality sour dough.
I want that cheddar on.

Speaker 3 (43:29):
There, fantastic delicious and their cob salad. I don't know
if you've ever had that which Clark Street, because there's two, right,
this is the one, the old Yeah, the old cafe
one on one.

Speaker 2 (43:38):
Cafe one on one used to have ice to go
there in high school.

Speaker 3 (43:41):
It's been around for a long time.

Speaker 2 (43:42):
Yeah, I'm not that old. H I used to go
there to go there. They had a waffle brownie Sunday,
and this is something that I mourn. I mourn the
loss of this brownie batter and a waffle maker.

Speaker 3 (43:58):
That's a gene idea, especially for a diner waffle.

Speaker 2 (44:03):
I scream hot fudge me sixteen years old, high as
a kite there with my girlfriends being bad.

Speaker 3 (44:11):
That is such a good idea because then they don't
have to worry about the brownie getting to stale.

Speaker 2 (44:15):
Yeah, Crispy Edges waffle.

Speaker 3 (44:19):
Clark Street reach out, I mean, can they get that
back on the middle a waffle maker there?

Speaker 2 (44:23):
I have a Clerk Street announcement. I went there. I
have a dear friend. He would love his fabulous love you, Lauren.
He goes there a lot. I went with him once,
and he has his whole thing there. He has his women,
he's got this relationship with the wait there she was
selling this oil that she made called abundance oil. Okay,

(44:44):
and it was like, you know, it's like we're this
and like abundance. I was going through a hard time.
I got give me, I need a bigger bawl, you know.
I bought it. Smell fabulous.

Speaker 3 (44:54):
Oh this is great.

Speaker 2 (44:55):
Little roller. I had in my purse for a couple
of days. I was wearing it. Something happened, not blaming
the bottle, but shattered in my purse. I went into
my person, got my keys pulled out. Bloody. That wasn't
that bad, but cut your handle. I was out of party, actually,
and I was fishing around and I go, ah, blood,
I had to ask a bartender for a band aid.

Speaker 3 (45:15):
That's a broken glass stuck in your hand.

Speaker 2 (45:17):
A week or so later, I meet my current part partner.
We'll take that again. A week or so later, I
meet my current partner. Can you imagine it's actually a
week or so, But I just mean, is that the
abundance oil, and.

Speaker 3 (45:32):
I feel like the symbolism of it's rich, yeah something
blood and the passion. That's amazing. And was I assumed
there was no real connection there. It wasn't like they
were like, oh I noticed that scar on your hand.

Speaker 2 (45:45):
Yeah no no, But I just later I go, huh,
maybe the abundance oil. I got to get more.

Speaker 3 (45:49):
That's very like witches brew where you have to put
a drop of blood into the brew and it creates
whatever you need.

Speaker 2 (45:56):
Wow, And I get some more oil.

Speaker 3 (45:59):
And I'm sure your purse smells wonderful now it did?

Speaker 2 (46:02):
What purse was it at the time?

Speaker 3 (46:04):
You know?

Speaker 2 (46:04):
That's girls with our purses. The passes recommend they become
a certain air of your life. That's the air of
life of that purse. And then you move on in
that purse. You got to just get rid of it.

Speaker 3 (46:12):
That bag right there have been carrying around for I
think three years. It's a nightmare. And I can't commit
to a new bag.

Speaker 2 (46:17):
I know exactly what bag you're going to upgrade to.

Speaker 3 (46:19):
What.

Speaker 2 (46:20):
I have a couple of ideas for you.

Speaker 3 (46:21):
I need, I genuinely need to punt this as holes
in it.

Speaker 2 (46:24):
Okay, I know a bag. I don't why I'm keeping
a secret at Couslada. Sorry, but they are friends. But
they're fabulous.

Speaker 3 (46:30):
That's a good bag.

Speaker 2 (46:31):
They just new season. I just saw the show a
fashion week. They came out with a new They have
a new bag that is so fabulous. It's amazing. It's
not gonna be cheap, sweet, but it's gonna last you
for the rest of the next ten years.

Speaker 3 (46:43):
That's what I need, because I'm not someone who's like
a constant turnover.

Speaker 2 (46:45):
You need a fat you need a real bag.

Speaker 3 (46:48):
I just need a bag that's like, you know, I
can use and it's I have.

Speaker 2 (46:51):
One of their other ones. It's like my tour bag
fits a lot.

Speaker 3 (46:54):
Do they have any inner pocket?

Speaker 2 (46:56):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (46:57):
I need just for my ones.

Speaker 1 (46:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (46:58):
I think there's always my wall. Every a serious bag
is gonna have the obligatory inner zip.

Speaker 3 (47:03):
The rest of its keys, and then swamp right just
garbage they have to fish through.

Speaker 2 (47:07):
I think you should get that one in like navy
in a like an army green.

Speaker 3 (47:11):
Okay, this is good to know because I've been online
for at least six months.

Speaker 2 (47:14):
I wonder if you'll think it's like if it's like
a little too firm for you. But it's not it.

Speaker 3 (47:18):
Who cares?

Speaker 2 (47:19):
No, I know, I think they'll be into it.

Speaker 3 (47:20):
Okay, I'm very curious.

Speaker 2 (47:21):
Yeah, it's black too.

Speaker 3 (47:23):
See this is why you're here.

Speaker 2 (47:24):
Look at this ads is while you're look at this
ad Clark Street.

Speaker 3 (47:27):
These companies compensated. I know, Well, is there anything left
we have to say about this fish?

Speaker 2 (47:33):
I think this was really nice.

Speaker 3 (47:36):
Glad we ate it tastes wonderful. M I wonder if
the listener hates that's like the soft pressure of tooth
on chocolate seems like a nightmare, But that's what you get.

Speaker 2 (47:55):
This molded into that. Look at the look at the
scales on that. That's a high quality item.

Speaker 3 (48:00):
And now I have a couple for decor, which is
so lovely.

Speaker 2 (48:02):
Most can just kind of you know, ratch, it's almost
a little toddler. You go, oh, like they'd like that
you could taunt a child from the little sardine.

Speaker 3 (48:12):
Children. Well, I think we should play a game. Okay,
We're going to play a game called Gift or a Curse.
But I need a number between one and ten for you. Okay,
I have to do. I have to do some light
calculating to get our game pieces. So right now you
can promote, recommend, do whatever you want with the microph.

Speaker 2 (48:30):
I have a podcast called Poog. You can find us
at poog podcast. Legally we had to be Berlant Novak.
Things are shaking being shooken up over at Poog headquarters.
But the point is please come over and listen to
the podcast. And of course you can find me at
caperlan caperland dot com for touring tickets. Yeah, okay, one,

(48:55):
I'm an actor for hire. Someone described me as a
the other day. I go, fuck you, saying them ugly.
I don't like that. I'm an actress. Hello, comedian of course.
Someone someone was introducing she's a great writer.

Speaker 3 (49:11):
I go, that's a weird thing to name you first,
like writer, Like why give up.

Speaker 2 (49:21):
My pen?

Speaker 3 (49:22):
I would say singer for not that you're not a
great writer, but it's like I think you're.

Speaker 2 (49:27):
Known, thank you seven people. She's a she's a great writer,
hair stylist, dentist, exactly, garbage man, yeah, yeah, all these things.
Yeah yeah writer.

Speaker 3 (49:44):
Was it someone who knew you well?

Speaker 2 (49:45):
Apparently not? No, that's what I know well, but someone
I know enough to go writer.

Speaker 3 (49:49):
I feel like whatever, good for them that shakes you up.
The actress, re evaluate your actress. Okay, everyone go, So
it's back to Poog.

Speaker 2 (50:03):
Listen, this was a whole drama, a big drama in
the podcast world. We're on the cover of Fast Company.
I don't know what that is. What's fast Company?

Speaker 3 (50:11):
That's a great, great question.

Speaker 2 (50:14):
It's like burn into my head. I don't know what
it is.

Speaker 3 (50:16):
Is it a website?

Speaker 2 (50:20):
Is it like an articleal magazine?

Speaker 3 (50:22):
I think yeah, I feel like I always see it
like almost like uh.

Speaker 2 (50:25):
Okay, deep Pockets. I'd love to do it. I would
love to do a seminar a Fast Company.

Speaker 3 (50:29):
Who's subscribing to Fast Company? Is it like marketing companies
to put on their coffee tables?

Speaker 2 (50:35):
Yeah, they like Fast Company's like here are the top
businesses of this month.

Speaker 3 (50:39):
Yeah, there's no one sitting at home like waiting for
the mail to come to get their latest issue of
Fast Company. I don't know what it is, but it
does seem like they have someone working there.

Speaker 2 (50:47):
Someone's there and they're talking about businesses and your business
and companies and I have a business. But back to Poog,
So everyone, the podcast continues. You know, we started in COVID.
It and we're just still there.

Speaker 3 (51:03):
We've seen a lot of come and go.

Speaker 2 (51:04):
We've seen a lot of stand strong, resilient. Okay, this
is how we by some of the episodes stick around.

Speaker 3 (51:14):
This is how we play Gift or a Curse. I'm
going to name three things. You'll tell me if they
are a gift or a curse and why, and I'll
tell if you're right or wrong, because there are correct answers.
First up, this is from a listener named Emily. Gift
or a curse. A character quietly, yet dramatically takes a
pill to let the audience know they are troubled.

Speaker 2 (51:32):
It's a curse. Why I don't understand the question. Wait,
a person takes a pill.

Speaker 3 (51:41):
A character like in a TV or movement, takes a
pill to let the audience know they're troubled.

Speaker 2 (51:47):
Oh I see, I see. No, it's a gift to
the audience to show them. It's it's character development. It's
a rich character development.

Speaker 3 (51:58):
Correct.

Speaker 2 (51:58):
I mean it's cheap writing. But yeah, I think absolutely
still actually used to do that tiktoks when I was
a little kid.

Speaker 3 (52:14):
For years, your little pills. Yeah, yeah, when you're bored,
you get to it's like there are a few things
that kind of were drug coded as children, like.

Speaker 2 (52:23):
Tiktoks were huge. And then I loved a First Wives
Club when I was younger and stuck her channing in
the beginning, she has she's about to kill herself or
spoiler happened to the first scene. So it's fine. But
she jumps off the balcony of her apartment building and
she has vodka and a little thing and she's like
drinking the vodka with like the glass hitting and I

(52:43):
remember doing that, like loving like the woman on h Yeah.

Speaker 3 (52:48):
She poured herself the glass of vodka before she.

Speaker 2 (52:50):
Drinks like one last drink and then she puts on
what it's nice. She's fabulous. It's a great scene. It's
a great movie. We won't make them like that anymore.

Speaker 3 (53:00):
We get to see the actor. You know. Everyone's take
on the pills swallow. Yeah, sometimes you just need it
spelled out for you. That's something's wrong.

Speaker 2 (53:06):
Yeah. Actually I sometimes am rosing about myself because I
have pills. I don't like like I take it time.
I'm actually a little scared of pills. But I've been
known to have an emergency colnup in here and there.
But I have a little pillcase and I am on
a plane. I had a tummy ache the other day
and I took something for my tummy, and I felt
very aware of like opening the pillcase in public and

(53:28):
being like like, right now, not me, but yeah, it's
like what are they thinking?

Speaker 3 (53:33):
And I wanted to be like, yeah, but everyone gets
to guess what's wrong with you? Yeah, exactly, and no
one at that point they're gonna be tiptoeing around you
for the rest of the flight.

Speaker 2 (53:41):
Well, I was overthinking because I'm actually I'm taking this
at the end of the flight. That would be weird
to take take a sleep medication at the end of the.

Speaker 3 (53:47):
That's a great idea. I'm gonna drive myself home.

Speaker 2 (53:51):
So I thought, anyone observing me right now I might go,
what was she taken? But I probably don't care. But
of course, and so I thought, well that I'm throwing
them off this.

Speaker 3 (54:01):
What do you take for a stomach?

Speaker 2 (54:04):
You know you're up there.

Speaker 3 (54:05):
I'm never prepared. I don't have any pills.

Speaker 2 (54:07):
I have pills at all times.

Speaker 3 (54:09):
I should, you know, I have a whole bag of
garbage always what are you doing well?

Speaker 2 (54:12):
Because I get migraines chronically, so always have migraine medication
on me. I always have something for the stomach. God forbid,
and I feel God forbid.

Speaker 3 (54:19):
Migraine is that prescription medication I need that.

Speaker 2 (54:23):
I literally give myself an injection once a month in
my five I have them at a.

Speaker 3 (54:27):
Really bad frequently.

Speaker 2 (54:28):
And I'm in a whole battle with my insurance company
right now because I'll just say quickly, I've been taking
it for years. Change my life. This medication, life saving
medication really when you think about it, and five dollars
guess how much of costs now?

Speaker 3 (54:41):
Oh, I can't imagine.

Speaker 2 (54:43):
Hundred unbelievable, untenable. So I've been literally begging for free
samples all over town. I had to pay for it
once out of pocket. But who can do that? I
mean it's just insane.

Speaker 3 (54:51):
Yeah, I mean, I mean we all know how awful
it is, absolutely horrible, And like you think about somebody
that has the rug pulled out from underneath them and
they don't have that.

Speaker 2 (55:00):
With the coupons and everything, I got it down that
one time to seven hundred.

Speaker 3 (55:03):
Seven hundred dollars the price of an ambulance ride in
twenty twelve.

Speaker 2 (55:09):
So I mean the chaos continues.

Speaker 3 (55:11):
Oh, that's horrible. And you haven't gotten the approval yet.

Speaker 2 (55:15):
Oh, I've been denied. I'm in like my fourth appeal.

Speaker 3 (55:17):
They pulled that on me with some medication monsters. Yeah,
and there was just there's nothing you can do.

Speaker 2 (55:23):
Anyway.

Speaker 3 (55:24):
Anyway, we gotta reach out. Yeah, exactly. Okay, so you
got one right, so far, so good for you. I'm second.
This is from an unknown listener, so they must have
posted it on some sort of thing we were doing.
God bless you, gift her a curse. Tongue scrapers.

Speaker 2 (55:43):
Okay, so I have a lot to say about this
because tongue scraper ostensibly you go, well, that's great, fresher
breath whatever. Jury's out. Because listen to me, there's there's
two schools of thought, and I have to go deeper
into this. Some people think that when you wake up
in the morning, you should immediately tongue scrape brush your teeth,

(56:04):
get all that out right before breakfast. Oh yeah, for coffee,
for everything, because they think, oh, well, in the night,
all your shit is caked in there, and then you're
eating it, you're digesting it. It's going back in, oh,
causing heart problems. Plaque, the whole thing, right, there's another
school of thought. Andrew Huberman taught me this. Yes, I
dip in Huberman. He teaches at Berkeley. There's some scary

(56:28):
stuff going on there, but there's usually somebody who fixed.
I like science, he said, because I listened to one
of his episodes about like immunity, because I'm obsessed with immunity,
you know, doing what I we all, you know, we
all should be but touring and whatnot. And he one
of his little tips. He goes something that I do
for immune for immune support every day, and you wake
up bedside water.

Speaker 3 (56:51):
Swallow oh, which is the absolute opposite.

Speaker 2 (56:55):
So I so I have an announcement. I've been doing
that for about six months. I haven't gotten.

Speaker 3 (57:04):
Shiok oh, my god in six months.

Speaker 2 (57:06):
And I've been traveling. I mean I've been traveling.

Speaker 3 (57:11):
That's a long stretch. I get sick probably once a
quarter something. M h wow. And that's so. I mean,
there's something about that that the logic doesn't add up.
So maybe that's why it works, because I feel like
there's nothing worse than a glass of water that you
wake up to.

Speaker 2 (57:28):
I don't know what. I don't know what The science
is there. But he goes, he goes. You know, this
is kind of a I don't know what he said
about it, but he goes, he goes. People think it's
a little gross. He said, It's not like you're you
literally do.

Speaker 3 (57:37):
It's not like you're like just what's inside your mouth,
just like a But I started.

Speaker 2 (57:41):
Doing that as a habit just kind of and I
kind of I'm kind of going, someone's here, well, maybe
I'll give it an But then I read a horror
story yesterday. My friend's friend's friend suddenly ill, plagued with sickness.
Feels crazy, going to the hospital. I've never felt worse.
Help help something. They can't figure it out. They're testing them,

(58:01):
they're doing all this stuff. Eventually doctor comes in and goes,
tell me about your oral hygiene. It's okay, well I'm
pretty on top of it. I floss, I brush, blah blah.
When do you floss? When do you brush? They get
down to the order. Turns out they think this person
has been ingesting plaque and it's doing made something go haywire.
Sounds crazy. How is that? I go, well, then is

(58:22):
that what I'm doing?

Speaker 3 (58:23):
I'm right, I'm adjusting.

Speaker 2 (58:26):
All of it, and I'm flossing before bed and then I.

Speaker 3 (58:28):
Go to sleep, right, So it's all just kind of
floating around.

Speaker 2 (58:30):
You want to floss spit when you're at night. Well,
by the way, who's flossing yum yum yum and eating?
I mean, you're like spinning it out. But I have
another announcement. I'm saving lives alcohol free mouthwash. Do not
use mouthwash with alcohol.

Speaker 3 (58:44):
Oh yeah, I've switched over making sure. But I just
kind of thought, well, why do I need alcohol in
my mouth washed?

Speaker 2 (58:49):
But a lot of people think, well, that's what's cleaning you. No,
it's the opposite. You're getting rid of these essential something.

Speaker 3 (58:55):
Yeah, it's killing off a bacteria. They don't want to
kill it. That'd heart. I love when I do something
by accident.

Speaker 2 (59:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (59:01):
Wow, And I just learned you're not. Just as of today,
I've learned you're not supposed to rinse after brushing your teeth. Huh.
You're supposed to see.

Speaker 2 (59:09):
The floride is supposed to spit.

Speaker 3 (59:12):
Which I tried this morning. It was not didn't feel
natural in any way. I don't like that I've been,
you know, washing out my entire life. You too, have
been washing it out and the water feels so good.
But apparently that's what you're supposed to do. Right now,
I'm using a Colgate with kind of a science. I

(59:32):
think I bought this in a four pack at Costco,
kind of a medical looking tube. It's not their traditional
you know, it's like almost a doctor's certified.

Speaker 2 (59:42):
Yes, I've I'm really into arm and Hammer Now I'm
just never go.

Speaker 3 (59:46):
Back baking soda.

Speaker 2 (59:47):
Yeah, why the clean that? Now? When I do Colgate
or Cress, I'm like, what is this a trip to
the fair? The County Fair tastes like sugar. It's like
it's like it's like tastes.

Speaker 3 (59:57):
Like mint, like crazy, and it's so smooth.

Speaker 2 (01:00:01):
Doesn't get it clean to me? I need the arm
and Hammer.

Speaker 6 (01:00:03):
I need the microscoppers, right, I like that bit of grit, Yeah,
that little making so yeah, my I do think we
should just narrow it down to like, why does Colgate
have fifty varieties as a company?

Speaker 3 (01:00:15):
Just settle on one choice.

Speaker 2 (01:00:17):
They think that's what you want to want to go
in there and see a wall of options, But.

Speaker 3 (01:00:20):
For me, it's just which one is on sale, So
they're not going to get made. Yeah, tongue scrapers. You're saying,
I own one.

Speaker 2 (01:00:30):
Sometimes I'll use it, but I need to get more research. Gift,
I shall say it's a gift curse.

Speaker 3 (01:00:38):
Look at all the efforts you've brought up, not big.

Speaker 2 (01:00:40):
Effect and even yeah, yeah, you're right, you're right.

Speaker 3 (01:00:43):
I think it's not only we don't know the science
is out. It seems dangerous. I feel like you could
go too far with it. Well, yeah, the horror element
of it, the final designation of accident, pulling your tongue
off or totally scraping the you know, the surface.

Speaker 2 (01:00:58):
Off, threading your tongue through the whole. Oh, it's kind
of amazing. You don't see that more people threading it through.

Speaker 3 (01:01:06):
And then no, I feel like just brushing your tongue
with your toothbrush is enough. Totally waste of money. That's another,
you know, scam, that's just kind of being imposed on us. Whatever,
you got one wrong, and that's fine.

Speaker 2 (01:01:18):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:01:18):
This final one is from one of our Patreon listeners,
Arista Arista A R I S T A. Thank you.
I'm sorry, I don't know how to pronounce your name.
Gift to a curse. Cute c fake movie trailers with
celebrities that remind you not to talk or text during
the movie.

Speaker 2 (01:01:33):
Well, very rarely are they with celebrities, So I'm a
little confused by the question.

Speaker 3 (01:01:39):
Apparently they exist.

Speaker 2 (01:01:42):
Okay, So there's a classic one that I'm sure people
have seen that I remember seeing in theaters in like
high school, my early years. That's Fabulous, which is like
a opera. It's like there's like an opera performance and
you think you're in about this, and then this one
opens your mouth to sing and I phone rings and
someone's like, oh no, that's fabulous, adorable, love it. No

(01:02:03):
movie stars in that.

Speaker 3 (01:02:04):
Those are so characters in great costumes.

Speaker 2 (01:02:08):
I would actually go as far as to argue, I've
never seen a celebrity and I please don't talk during
the movie, So I'm gonna have to see that. You
might maybe this person's talking, of course the viral Nicole
Kidman and c.

Speaker 3 (01:02:21):
But she's not asking anyone to do that.

Speaker 2 (01:02:23):
It's not about that, but it's about the power of storytelling, right,
And so I've never seen a celebrity in one of those.
So I refeat the question. It's a gift though, because
I like that one media.

Speaker 3 (01:02:37):
Wrong. I've never seen one with a celebrity either. So
I'm a little baffled and I'm disoriented. But to me,
I don't think we need any of these things because
the people who are going to do these things are
going to do them no matter what.

Speaker 2 (01:02:50):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:02:50):
So I'm just sitting there being reminded that someone in
the theater will be doing that ignoring what they've been told.

Speaker 2 (01:02:55):
Have you ever been with someone where there I went
some movie recently with some friends. One of the friends
was talking a little bag.

Speaker 3 (01:03:02):
Oh, a friend of a friend.

Speaker 2 (01:03:03):
No, no, my friend who I guess I haven't seen
a movie with a long time, just a little bit.
But I was like, oh, because I'm I'm of course,
that's what you do. The most I could ever do
a movie looking for like the most quite thing I
had to be said. It would be sub perceptual.

Speaker 3 (01:03:21):
And it puts you in a weird position because you're like, well,
I don't want to be rude to and.

Speaker 2 (01:03:25):
Go stop talking and making me uncomfortable. You can't sit
to a friend, then you're a cop or.

Speaker 3 (01:03:30):
I'll just be icy to them. And then I'm like,
now do they think I'm not fun to be around?

Speaker 2 (01:03:34):
I'm can't talk in the movie.

Speaker 3 (01:03:37):
You can talk through the trailers. I don't care anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:03:39):
The trailers are communal.

Speaker 3 (01:03:41):
Yes, when you make friends, what do we think of this?

Speaker 2 (01:03:44):
No, that's fun. I had a lot of fun. Actually
had a really fun time going to see weapons. And
I was I was in a really good mood, and
I was doing major entertainment for the whole theater. I
was doing major talking. I was talking about I'm scared,
I'm scared. I was doing the whole thing is I
really was scared and talking it all up, and a
bond of was and people like you want to switch

(01:04:04):
some too close someth I gets good. I was doing
incredible community work. But then once the trailer's pay and
re in the movie, bitter silence.

Speaker 3 (01:04:11):
Of course that's what everyone's there for. And the trailers
were there for a half an hour, were trapped.

Speaker 2 (01:04:17):
What was I watching a movie I didn't like? Oh, Wicked,
but there was somebody on their phone.

Speaker 3 (01:04:25):
Oh just during the movie. Happens all the time.

Speaker 2 (01:04:28):
And then I see it again, I go, sorry, but
I loved Wicked. But the point is, please cast me
in anything. But the point is, it's just it's not
your cup of tea. It's too strong to say I
didn't like it. It's not it's just that it's not
for me. Yeah, that's and that's fine. By the way,
so cried it's not for me when she's falling through
when she sees he chocolateself.

Speaker 3 (01:04:49):
Not I didn't know what it was about.

Speaker 2 (01:04:53):
Told me what it was about. On the way to
the theater.

Speaker 3 (01:04:54):
I hadn't seen the plot. And I'm happy for everyone
doing everything, happy for every everyone, except for this person
texting during it. That's half the reason I'll go to
a movie is because I know I won't be able
to text.

Speaker 2 (01:05:06):
That's the joy of it.

Speaker 3 (01:05:07):
Because at home I will be on my phone. It's
impossible to resist looking at my phone while watching. I
need to be trapped in a movie.

Speaker 2 (01:05:12):
Theater, I know. So when someone's guess what I just
set up before coming to see you today? The light phone?

Speaker 3 (01:05:21):
What's that?

Speaker 2 (01:05:22):
Here's another ad the light phone, because I because I
have to move away from technology and joining my life.
I've donated my brain to science and not for my
own gain. It's horrible, it's over. I used to be smart.
I'm dumb now. It's actually completely The light phone is
a phone that only has texts maps camera, you can

(01:05:45):
put music on there. The point is it's not connected
to the internet.

Speaker 3 (01:05:48):
Right, Oh, so it's almost like you put MP three's
on you.

Speaker 2 (01:05:51):
You can't exactly, it's like an iPod. You can't. You
can't download apps. So it's only a phone number. You
can text, you can talk obviously, maps huge, what else
do you really truly? And I just set it up
before coming here, So I'm gonna have two phone numbers.

Speaker 1 (01:06:04):
Now.

Speaker 3 (01:06:04):
Oh so you're keeping your iPhone or whatever?

Speaker 2 (01:06:06):
Of course I got it.

Speaker 3 (01:06:08):
So but how are you going to operate with these
two phones?

Speaker 2 (01:06:11):
So here's what it's going to be. I'm gonna have
I'm gonna have like light phone days. I'm gonna give
my light phone number to people that have to reach
me emergency concert and I'll go.

Speaker 3 (01:06:21):
How much does a light phone cost?

Speaker 2 (01:06:23):
It's not cheap. They have different models. I think this
new one's going to run you like six hundred's for
a new life.

Speaker 3 (01:06:33):
That's half the cost of an iPhone certainly.

Speaker 2 (01:06:35):
And by the way, it's fun. It's cute. It's light
physically light, it's like a square. It's I'm really excited.
I just set it up and I tested it to
the phone, took a photo. It's like a cute little Oh.

Speaker 3 (01:06:46):
I want to try one of these, and so I'll
report back.

Speaker 2 (01:06:48):
But I'm convinced it's going to change my life.

Speaker 3 (01:06:50):
Because I have you know, like, do not disturb on
at all times?

Speaker 2 (01:06:53):
Do anything?

Speaker 3 (01:06:54):
Well? It does for me. It makes everyone mad at me,
even my doctors.

Speaker 2 (01:06:59):
Be At this point, I was texting with my doctor
this morning. You text with your doctor.

Speaker 3 (01:07:03):
No, that's too close of her.

Speaker 2 (01:07:05):
I need the doctor right here. I'm saying, pictures, what's
this rash? It hurts when I touch this. Help?

Speaker 3 (01:07:09):
Did you know them prior to the doctor relationship?

Speaker 2 (01:07:12):
We actually have an amazing relationship. And I'm a powerful manifestor.
And I had done an interview and I guess it
was variety and they were like, what's your goal for
the year or what's something you want for the year?

Speaker 4 (01:07:23):
Right?

Speaker 2 (01:07:24):
And I said, and I meant, meant from the soul.
It was authentic. I want a primary care doctor in
my network who I like. I met this doctor at
a Emmy event.

Speaker 3 (01:07:34):
Oh wow, she's.

Speaker 2 (01:07:35):
High up there. I go, this is great. I need
a doctor. We start talking. She's she's fabulous, She's like,
what are you looking for we talk. She goes, I
have some people I can connect you with, and then
she goes, you know what, I'll be your doctor. Oh
my god, she is beyond.

Speaker 3 (01:07:50):
And that's I mean, that's unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (01:07:52):
And then she by the way, she texted me today
apparently she's a podcast. I'm gonna go on it.

Speaker 3 (01:07:55):
But I lost my last doctor to a podcast. Really,
the last thing I heard he said he was starting,
Oh my god, He's like, well, what has my treatment? Ben?

Speaker 2 (01:08:03):
I love her and it's really, I mean, it's one
of the greatest blessings of my life.

Speaker 3 (01:08:06):
Wow. I want to manifest something like that. Something I'm
dreaming about constantly is a someone who cuts hair that
has ideas.

Speaker 2 (01:08:15):
About, oh, what to do with your hair? Yes, well
that's what you need.

Speaker 3 (01:08:17):
I love my current barber, but he doesn't, you know,
he doesn't bring thee. I would love for someone to
confidently say this is what you should do.

Speaker 2 (01:08:26):
Oh, I have I have some names for you.

Speaker 3 (01:08:28):
Okay, that's really because it's hard and it's hard to
get any sort of recommendation. Okay, see, there we go.
I think I might be texting with one of.

Speaker 2 (01:08:35):
These guys for you.

Speaker 3 (01:08:36):
Yeah, we have to ask for what we want.

Speaker 2 (01:08:39):
Yeah, and sometimes beautiful thing about I'm in your hands,
But what do you think right?

Speaker 3 (01:08:43):
Oh, to get another person who the stakes are not
as high for them relationship wise, and they can say something.
They can look at you and say this is what
needs to happen. Yeah, the best feeling in the world.
Deliberating because no one else is going to give you
the truth and they don't really see you. If someone
if someone's been in your life a really long time,
it's hard for them to separate.

Speaker 2 (01:09:01):
You have to go to children at that point go
am I ugly like, Yeah, you don't have to ask,
and you know, it's.

Speaker 3 (01:09:06):
Nothing worse when a child starts crying before you've done anything.

Speaker 2 (01:09:10):
Just seeing you.

Speaker 3 (01:09:11):
Yeah, well you got two out of no, one out
of three, five of it. That's totally fine. You were
honest with yourself and what are you gonna do? Yeah,
let's see. Okay, Now analys has their own gift or
a curse that they're going to present we you have
to speak to it. At least, what is it?

Speaker 5 (01:09:29):
Gift? A curse? Watching a scary movie alone?

Speaker 3 (01:09:33):
We were just talking about scary movies, really good one.

Speaker 2 (01:09:35):
Okay, so I have a complicated relationship to scary movies.
I think I like them, but I'm very poorous and
I'm open and they scare me. Sure, so I have
to time of day how going into theaters. Like, for example,
my friend who loves scary movies is like, let's go
see The Conjuring, and I go, that might be too
scary for me. I don't know so, but I'm open
to it watching them alone. My partner is tragically really

(01:09:57):
afraid of scary movies. They're like, no, I've been bigging
to watch Zodiac, one of my favorite movies.

Speaker 3 (01:10:01):
Oh my god, maybe my favorite movie. It's one of
the best, one of the most rewatchable movies.

Speaker 2 (01:10:05):
I agree completely, and they're like no, And I'm like, re'spect.
They're like, I won't do murder, I won't do sexual violence.
I won't do uh like possession demons that scares them.
I go, yeah, there's nothing they can do zombies for
some reason, zombies don't scare them.

Speaker 3 (01:10:20):
Well, zombies are boring.

Speaker 2 (01:10:22):
But watching a scary movie alone, I'm gonna go with Curse.
I think I think it's not. But I'm on the
fence here because I was thinking about actually watching the
conjuring solo an old version to gear up for the
new one before I go to the grove and shell out.

Speaker 3 (01:10:40):
Right, this is going to distract, But I just had
this vision of you alone and not watching This isn't
a scary movie, but the idea of you sitting and
watching Pirates at the Caribbean, I've never seen it.

Speaker 2 (01:10:51):
It could happen.

Speaker 3 (01:10:51):
It seems like a very funny thing on my couch,
just like seeking it out and I'm watching it and
just like wow.

Speaker 2 (01:10:57):
Yeah, be like, well, technology has advance and it doesn't
look that good.

Speaker 3 (01:11:02):
So you're saying, Okay, I'm actually.

Speaker 2 (01:11:05):
Gonna go with I'm gonna go with Gift, even though
my instinct is cursed, and we'll see if that pays off.

Speaker 3 (01:11:12):
I also am going to say Gift and I it's
an extreme I've done it before, and I'll say it's
a very hard thing to do because it's the fear
factor is through the roof when you're alone. But I
think that's a that's how you maximize what the movie is.

Speaker 2 (01:11:26):
And it could be fun. Like I'm actually picturing myself
on my couch with a blanket, like.

Speaker 3 (01:11:31):
Oh, it's fantastic. I tried watching I've had several failures
where I tried watching The Strangers alone. Once I put
it in in a twelve forty five am oh home
invasion movie.

Speaker 2 (01:11:40):
A few years ago.

Speaker 3 (01:11:42):
Oh eight, maybe at this point, Okay, you should see
this movie. It's one of the most terrible invasion for me.
That movie I watched, you know, I knew what it was,
and I watched up until the point when there was
a knock at the door in the movie and I said, oh, okay,
I'm not watching this anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:11:59):
That's azing. That scared you that much. I saw like
a fake clickbait thing that was like seven or seven
out of nine people couldn't wouldn't be seven out and
I was probably say out of ten, but it was
like people couldn't finish this movie on Netflix was like
Netflix officially says.

Speaker 3 (01:12:13):
That marketing tactics, it was obs scare a meter. What
movie was it?

Speaker 2 (01:12:20):
Don't no something I had never heard of a clue
they were trying to I couldn't it because it was
so terrible exactly exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:12:25):
I hate this one. Yeah, yeah, no, I think it's
a gift. I love watching scary movies with people, but
I if I really want to be terrified. I have
to do it alone.

Speaker 2 (01:12:36):
What do you see weapons?

Speaker 3 (01:12:37):
Oh? I loved Weapons. Was in the theater, so it
wasn't sccary. Oh okay, I had some scary moments.

Speaker 2 (01:12:42):
Did you scream?

Speaker 3 (01:12:43):
No? I didn't scream. I rarely scream. I screamed in Jaws.
Recently actually went saw Jaws. Have you ever seen Jaws? Yes,
there's one scary moment with a dead body underwater. It's
kind of a jump scare with a man's face.

Speaker 1 (01:12:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:12:55):
Yeah, yeah, scared.

Speaker 3 (01:12:56):
Oh my god, it's terrifying. But the thing I love
about Weapons is I love a horror movie where there's
an actual evil, Like there's an evil witch. You know,
it's not like psychological or anything. It's just like, oh no,
there's an actual demon that the town has to deal with.

Speaker 2 (01:13:12):
She rocks.

Speaker 3 (01:13:13):
She's so good.

Speaker 2 (01:13:14):
Finally someone wasn't scared to go.

Speaker 3 (01:13:16):
There's good for her, so good on a least. What
is the answer.

Speaker 2 (01:13:22):
It's a gift.

Speaker 5 (01:13:23):
It's a gift we all win. I mean, yeah, to me,
it's my way to show me what I made of.

Speaker 4 (01:13:28):
You know, if I can sit through something really terrifying
by myself and get through it, I'm good. Like, I've
never felt stronger than watching And I know this may
seem silly because it's not very scary for a lot
of people, but watching the Blair Witch Project by myself, oh,
I felt invincible.

Speaker 2 (01:13:45):
I could do anything to do a rewatch because that
movie really got me.

Speaker 3 (01:13:48):
I recently watched it for the first time. Did nothing
for me. I think that I've just seen too much.

Speaker 2 (01:13:53):
Where Witch just like Pre nine eleven, like it just
takes me back. I mean, coming one of those people,
it's like the world. I mean, of course, just end
the episode quick before I start getting into pre nine
to eleven.

Speaker 3 (01:14:08):
Okay, well we all win today. Good for us. Okay,
we have to answer a listener question. People writing into
I said no gifts at gmail dot com. Will you
help me answer questions? Okay, well, this is Salu Bridgett.
So this person's already off on a bad Yeah. I
don't know if that's a typo or what, but in
the French, you're you're on my bad side. Listener. My

(01:14:28):
brother in law is turning forty this December, and my
husband and I want to get him a thoughtful yet
unique gift. He's a college professor of creative writing, and
his hobbies include surfing, reading, and writing, and he loves
a good pizza as specifically New England.

Speaker 2 (01:14:41):
Pizza as a single New England pizza.

Speaker 3 (01:14:46):
Where's is it? What is New England pizza?

Speaker 2 (01:14:50):
There's no culture there. I don't know what New England
pizzas versus New York pizza is that they Maybe I'm
hungry pizza and tuna melts. We will clan.

Speaker 3 (01:15:02):
We only get to see him and my sister a
couple of times a year when they visit us for
the holidays. It's too much, it's overwhelming.

Speaker 2 (01:15:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:15:08):
Uh, they're in New York. We're in Florida. So even
an experience gift during Christmas time might be fun. He
already owns a million books. NERD, what would you get
a forty year old writer, surfer reader who seems to
have it all advanced? Thanks Catherine.

Speaker 2 (01:15:22):
I have to say something that's gonna sound like spawn,
like I'm sponsored.

Speaker 3 (01:15:25):
Here we go. But I have to say like a
nask and my stickers.

Speaker 2 (01:15:31):
This might sound obvious, but gold belly and a pinch.
Oh has some fun stuff for someone that wants a
food item. Like you're saying he's a pizza head. Loves
knowing them pizza. I've never heard of that culture, but
why not send a fun other kind of pizza sampler.
Here's what you do. Like my friend had a baby,
I send her post posts post.

Speaker 3 (01:15:53):
Part post when you say that with that depression, but
it's not and it's a weird.

Speaker 2 (01:16:00):
Yeah, yeah, it seems a little are you. Yeah, I
don't know, but I sent the pizza because they do
you know Top Chef Chris Bianca.

Speaker 3 (01:16:10):
Yes, Chris Bianca.

Speaker 2 (01:16:11):
It's a fun episode. You can get his pizzas sense, right,
So I go watch the chefs hey episode, get excited,
to get hungry.

Speaker 3 (01:16:17):
I have the pizza.

Speaker 2 (01:16:18):
Isn't that fun?

Speaker 3 (01:16:18):
What an experience?

Speaker 2 (01:16:19):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:16:20):
So I think.

Speaker 2 (01:16:20):
Sometimes a fun gold belly item.

Speaker 3 (01:16:23):
Multimedia like can be.

Speaker 2 (01:16:25):
That was my own little spin. But I think that's
a great gold belly because I've been sent a couple
of gold bellies. I go, let's hit the spot.

Speaker 3 (01:16:32):
Because I am never like, oh I'll get gold belly
for myself. I'll never order something from across the country.

Speaker 2 (01:16:38):
It's wet, but it's such a novelty. It's an extreme
not and there are different price points, so if you
want it into the fortieth you want to get up there.
I think you can get things as low as maybe
you know, there's seventy dollars range, but they're going up,
up up.

Speaker 3 (01:16:50):
I wonder what the most expensive thing you can get
on there, and it's probably some sort.

Speaker 2 (01:16:53):
Of meat, right, I think you can go pretty high.

Speaker 3 (01:16:56):
Probably some type of sushi or yeah, does it all
come frozen?

Speaker 2 (01:16:59):
Don't gold sushis like a rough No, it's not all
I've gotten.

Speaker 3 (01:17:04):
I was.

Speaker 2 (01:17:04):
I sent Russ and daughters so they it's different.

Speaker 3 (01:17:09):
That's a lovely I mean, and she could, uh, maybe
there's a good food in Florida that could be gold
Belly to Florida. Yeah, there is good Cuban food there.
We go.

Speaker 2 (01:17:23):
You have never been to Florida, so I've never been
to Florida. I've never set foot in the state.

Speaker 3 (01:17:27):
Well, and I can actually cannot really speak to the
Cuban food because my experience in Miami was very singular
and I was not really allowed to go into the city.
But I really, really okay, I really wanted a Cuban
sandwich and ended up so desperate to have when I
had one in the airport. So it wasn't really the
experience I.

Speaker 2 (01:17:44):
Was looking sometimes airport food. I had one of the
best things I had in Italy at the train station.
Well but Italy, Yeah, what did you have this fucking
amazing sandwich.

Speaker 3 (01:17:54):
It's weird when you go to other countries and it's
just like baseline, everything's good. Yeah, it's like you don't
have to worry about even a train station having bad
Yeah it was.

Speaker 2 (01:18:03):
I was blown away.

Speaker 3 (01:18:04):
Oh well, I think that's a lovely gift. My only
thought is you're in Florida. Has he been on one
of those air powered boats? What is that called? Was
you know the thing with a giant fan behind it?
Did they fly across a swamp.

Speaker 2 (01:18:17):
A solo like a one seater?

Speaker 3 (01:18:19):
No, I feel like it's usually uh like a swamp person.

Speaker 2 (01:18:23):
That's like a swamp tour.

Speaker 3 (01:18:25):
Swamp tour. Have you been on a swamp tour?

Speaker 2 (01:18:26):
No, that's how I want to del ray fall in love.
That's true.

Speaker 3 (01:18:30):
And if he's single, I know, get out there misconnection.

Speaker 2 (01:18:33):
If it were on the Swana, I could work for anyone.
She's still married to the guy, never been happier, So
I believe it. I saw Listen walking down the aisle
full blown, and then someone there was footage of her
recently on a tour being like and then crying like
looking at him, I.

Speaker 3 (01:18:52):
Was like, whoa, that is incredible.

Speaker 2 (01:18:55):
Good for her, really happy for her.

Speaker 3 (01:18:57):
Well, yeah, we love her and Catherine of you and
your brother in law.

Speaker 2 (01:19:01):
Happy birthday.

Speaker 3 (01:19:02):
Happy birthday to him, and hopefully send him some food
and then say you'll take him on a swamp tour.

Speaker 2 (01:19:07):
I think that's fun.

Speaker 3 (01:19:07):
If you already took him on a swamp to he's
probably hooked.

Speaker 2 (01:19:09):
He probably wants to go on another.

Speaker 3 (01:19:11):
We answered the question perfectly.

Speaker 2 (01:19:13):
I'm scared of a swamp tour. Alligators.

Speaker 3 (01:19:15):
No, alligators are very top of my list of terrify.

Speaker 2 (01:19:18):
I was like about alligators in therapy yesterday.

Speaker 3 (01:19:20):
Have you ever seen one in person? No?

Speaker 2 (01:19:22):
But I had a dream? Oh, I mean young and analysis.
We'll talk about dreams a lot.

Speaker 3 (01:19:25):
What happened to the within the dream today?

Speaker 2 (01:19:28):
Sometimes alligators appear for me and the primordial mother m
the alligator. You know what's lurking underneath the service that
can suddenly explode and.

Speaker 3 (01:19:35):
Can follow and thrash, and they scare me. Yeah, of
course I.

Speaker 2 (01:19:39):
Am not unique in that they're scary, But something about like,
sometimes I watch videos of them. I kind of like
want to feel the fear. There should be an alligator
horror movie.

Speaker 3 (01:19:50):
I don't think anybody is really a lake plasid.

Speaker 2 (01:19:51):
I think that about a giant alligator. It's a great
alligator versus crocodile. What's the difference. Is it a gender thing?

Speaker 3 (01:19:56):
I feel like a crocodile has a rounder snout while
the alligator has a more harper points smaller Yeah, can
kind of snatch you, while the crocodile is more like
chomps you. It's a science. Yeah, they're terrifying to me.
We had a lizard in the house recently.

Speaker 2 (01:20:11):
Baby alligator.

Speaker 3 (01:20:12):
Gim was screaming. Yeah, I had it was adorable. It
was smaller than that's cute.

Speaker 2 (01:20:18):
The alligators don't scare me. I had an alligator, I
mean a lizard that came into the house hot day
in Los Angeles. Where was it laying on my cold
laptop on the top and take a load off? Just
the cold apple metal like I know.

Speaker 3 (01:20:34):
I was like, smart, someone should make beds out of
that so aluminum at oh beautiful. Well we answered the
question perfectly. I have my chocolates. I'm so glad you
could be here. When the misstic thank you for being here,
thank you for having me, and listener, the podcast is
over for screeching to a halt. I'm oddly warm. I

(01:20:54):
don't know what's happening in the studio today. I think
we need to I mean, unfortunately, it's too late for
the note. The next person who records in here will
be nice and breezy. We're sweating. We have to get
out of here. I love you, goodbye. I said, No
Gifts is an exactly right production. Our senior producer is

(01:21:16):
on Alisa Nelson, and our episodes are beautifully mixed by
Ben Holliday. The theme song is by miracle worker Amy Mann,
and we couldn't do it without our booker, Patrick Cottner.
You must follow the show on Instagram. At I said
no Gifts, that's where you're going to see pictures of
all these wonderful gifts I'm getting. And don't you want
to see the gifts? Li invit?

Speaker 1 (01:21:37):
Did you hear? Thuna Man myself perfectly clear. When you're
a guest, Tom, you gotta come to me empty And
I said, no guests, you're our presences, presents and already

(01:22:01):
had too much stuff.

Speaker 5 (01:22:03):
So how do you dare to surbey me

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