September 4, 2025 • 56 mins
Bridger sets his feelings aside when Neil Campbell (Digman!) thinks it's a good idea to show up with a gift. The two discuss department stores, 8-hour films, and carry-on luggage.
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Speaker 1 (00:08):
And I invited you here. I thought I made myself
perfectly clear. When you're a guest to my home, you
gotta come to me empty. And I said, no, guess
you're presences presents enough. I already had too much stuff,
(00:35):
So how do you dare to surbey me?
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Welcome to, I said, no gift, temperature wineger. We're in
the backyard, which is such a lovely feeling. You know,
it's been a minute since we've been back here, largely
because it's summer. But it's a pre noon recording, so
we'll only be sweating about halfway through the episode. For now.
I feel great that's going on. I woke up feeling
(01:13):
very ambitious this morning, but that's over now and I
got nothing accomplished. Last night I had a dream I
went on a cruise which was unbelievably stressful. What an experience.
And that leads us to now that's my day. That's
me before eleven am, and I think we should get
(01:35):
into the podcast. Today's guest is absolutely wonderful. It's Neil Campbell. Neil,
Welcome to.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
I said, no gifts, thank you for having me. Oh,
of course, how are you feeling? I'm feeling excited. I'm
excited to be here. Are you warm? I'm warm, but
not uncomfortable.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Okay, great, you're in a summary. Look I like this.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Yeah, yeah, you know, gotta break out the short sleeves.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
I have a very similar to this. I almost wore
it this morning, and that would have a disaster for
the podcasts.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Is it from Gant?
Speaker 2 (02:02):
It's not. Wait, what is that?
Speaker 3 (02:04):
I don't I don't know if they existed anymore, but
it was some brand that was around for a minute.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
How do you spell that? G A N T Gant.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
Gant, Yeah, and they had a store and it was
Gant Rugger or something like that.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Gant is not a pleasant It doesn't sound like clothing.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
To know, and I'm very possibly mispronouncing it Gaunt Gaunt.
It might have been a very soft g and I
don't know.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Gante sounds like they sell drills or something. Gaunt it
sounds too.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
GoF yeah, or or too kind of super skinny or right.
And Jant, yeah, well, now we know they didn't take off.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Jant sounds like a discount retailer, maybe kind of a
ross competitor. Maybe I'll open a Jant. Ross is popping
up everywhere there's a I just saw a new Ross
is opening. Really, I don't know what the epidemic of
Ross is, but I think it's the worst of those
type of discount stores.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
I'm not I haven't. I'm actually not sure I've been
into ave never been in a Ross. No, and I'm
a stranger to a discount store, but I just don't
know that my path has led me to a Roth.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Have you been in a TJ Max?
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (03:14):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Have you been in a Marshalls?
Speaker 3 (03:16):
Yes? I think so.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Okay, and then let's see. Then we've got nordsomb Rack
is a little bit sure, the top tier. And then
we have a Burlington coat factory, which they don't call
a coat factory anymore, right.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
But I think we have both. Both Burlington and TJ
Max were near my high school. Oh sure, I've only
popped into both of those.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
We're around back to school shopping season. Was that like
an annual thing for you?
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Yes, I guess so a little bit, But I it
was probably years before I really was paying much attention
to what I was wearing, So it was more of like, okay, annied,
like one new shirt, that's cool, this, you know, my
new Union Bay shirt.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Or something Union Bay. God bless they Union Bay. And
there was another one that was like Ocean Pacific.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
I think, yeah, yeah, maybe yeah, Union BAYFK was just
in department stores, yes, as opposed to having its own
like brick and mortar.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Right, I feel like that was in Mervyn's. Did you
have Mervyns?
Speaker 3 (04:11):
Where are you from? I'm from mostly Fairfax, Virginia.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Okay, so Murvins may not have gotten to I.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
Don't think I had Mervyn's. We had J. C. Penny
and Lord and Taylor, and J j C. Penny was
our in Seares. We're our two department stores, Lord and Taylor.
I've always assumed as maybe because of Anne Taylor. Now
this is why I'm so stupid. I just assumed it
was a women's only store. But well, well I don't
even know that. I just remember fair Oaks Mall having
sort of four kind of three or four different InCor
(04:38):
stores ancor department stores, you know that sort of led
you in. And I don't actually think we were a
Lord and Taylor family. So it's possible they could have
been telling, you know, lumber for all of them. But
JAC Penny and series we hit up.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Hot least, do you have anything to say about Lord
and Taylor? Do you know anything about this company?
Speaker 3 (04:55):
Looks like they're still around.
Speaker 5 (04:56):
It seems they do make men's clothes.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Okay, Oh so it's kind of more of a.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
They only had.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Yeah, it's like a department store.
Speaker 5 (05:03):
I always thought of it as a department store, like
a little fancier than Nordstrum Lord my brain strum, But
that's you know, that's my Colorado like brain talking. So
who's no, who knows if that is an accurate you know.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Right, Nordstrom was the ceiling as far as a fancy department.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
Store, we do not have a Nordstrom.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Yeah, that was a big one. And I don't think
I ever got any back to school clothing at Nordstrom.
Are you are all the malls in your hometown gone?
Speaker 3 (05:30):
I don't know. I haven't. Everyone moved away after I
went to college, but I don't think they're all gone.
I think I think Fair Oaks Small might still be kicking.
But I guess I don't know how I would have
found out otherwise.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Where is Where is your family ended up?
Speaker 3 (05:48):
My mom now lives in Arizona, Okay, and my brother
lives in Seattle, Washington. When I went to college, I
went to the University of Iowa. And then when I
was there, my dad had worked with a civilian but
worked for the military, had been at the Pentagon.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
Then went to an army based in Germany. So then
I was in college. They were in Germany. Wow. Then
they moved nearby brother and he was living in Portland, Orgon.
They moved there.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
So yeah, so you were moving around a lot as
a kid.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
I would say zero to ten. Yes. I was born
in Atlanta, New Jersey, Virginia. Lived in Japan for a
few years on an army base where in Japan, an
army base called Camp Zama that's near Tokyo. Oh. Wow.
And then back to Virginia. And so then Virginia ten
to eighteen.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Did you pick up any Japanese?
Speaker 3 (06:34):
Not really, it was an American Army base.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Oh right.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
We would learn how to like sing some songs where
we had a class called culture. We'd like paint kanji
and learned some phrases, but not conversational.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Can you remember any of the songs?
Speaker 3 (06:45):
Well, there's that one and I don't want to offend,
but it's like the like Sakura.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
I was like that same melody of every there's like
a million songs and I feel like there's a French
version of that.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
Yeah, probably Jacques. Yes, is that how you profess?
Speaker 2 (07:01):
I mean my apologies to our French listeners.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
But yeah. One stayed with the Japanese family for a
few days once and then their son came and stayed
with us.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
And have you been back as an adult?
Speaker 3 (07:13):
I went back in twenty eighteen.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
How was that experience?
Speaker 3 (07:15):
It was fun? It was great. Where did you visit
Tokyo and Kyoto?
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (07:19):
But went to the studio ghibli Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
I tried to get into that.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
It's not the theme park thing that existed. It was
before that, right, it was just like the museum tour
thing whatever.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
It is impossible to get into now he did.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
It's part of a tour group. So it was like
a whole kind of took up our day. But it
was and you know, went there, Wes Anderson was walking
around in a white suit.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
He's been trapped there for ten years. Fascinating. Wow, what
a sighting.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
Yeah, yeah, I think it was. I think it was
in the country to promote Isle of Dogs.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Oh that makes sense, and Isle of Dogs there's some
Japanese element in Isle of Dogs. I think. I think
you're right, Yeah, didn't the movie didn't make much of
an effect on that. My apologies to Wes Anderson. Wow,
were there any highlights of the trip to Japan?
Speaker 3 (08:07):
Mostly just some of the like nostalgia, like well, I
don't know that I was in this spot, but of
kind of feeling like, oh, I remember this sort of
vibe or this type of vending machine on the corner.
Little details like that.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
The vending machine culture there is the Yeah for vending
machines not to seem trashy is such an achievement for
a country, and they're everywhere. Yeah, and none of them
seem like junk. They're just kind of like these lovely
little magical things around that you can get all kinds
of I mean, I don't think I bought anything out
of them, but it's just nice to see one in
the wild.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
Yeah. My brother and I used to get these things
called the Gundam cards when I was a kid. I
think I'm sure there was a game you could play,
because they have like hit points or something on it.
I'm sure there was some Pokemon esque thing, but we
didn't understand that, right. We just like these little cards
you could get out of a vending machine that had
like drawings of robots. Robots, yeah and so, and I
still have my big stack of them.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Right. Every child has to go through a stage where
they want a lot of cars. Yeah, summer. Yeah. I
was just back home in Utah and talking to my cousin.
He was in Japan as a kid. Bought a Pokemon card.
In them all it's now worth like twenty thousand dollars.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
Jeez, I gotta check my gun Dam cards.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
I know you should. Actually I had any of these things.
It's what a shame that I'm just bad at investing
in anything, I guess. I mean, wow, but do you
hold onto that card? Is that a bubble that eventually
bursts or does the card just get more and more?
Speaker 3 (09:27):
Probably sell it. If I had a twenty thousand dollars, Oh,
I made my own Gundam card. And then my dad
had like a lamination machine. Oh my god. I think
it was back in maybe this is still in Japan.
Probably was at work here. I was able to laminate.
So I drew a little robot and for his skills,
I said, he has a good sense of humor.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Like a giant mech that.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Yeah, that was kind of a skills parties. Yeah do
you still have the card? I do.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
It's on my fridge right now. Wow, you should try
selling it. Yeah, maybe that was very well.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
Find out that it's your retirement. That's credible. Do you
travel much or is Japan just of no?
Speaker 3 (10:06):
Yeah, I would say travel quite a bit.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
Where have you been recently?
Speaker 3 (10:09):
Let's see, went to Madrid last December?
Speaker 2 (10:13):
How was Madrid? I recently had a friend just tell
me flat out, you won't like going to Spain because
eating there they're because of tap us. It's just you
never really feel like you're getting a full meal.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
Well, I just keep shoving them in my mouth and
I am full. So that wasn't really an issue I encountered.
I mean, I'm pescatarian, so a lot of the ham
eating culture I didn't but found plenty. I mean there's
plenty of good seafood and vegetarian options around. So I
had a great time as a traveler.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Are you like just food focused or are you like
going out and wandering around that kind of Well?
Speaker 3 (10:48):
I like wandering around, but I think food is kind
of a a lot of places I've gone, We've gone
has been a like booking a food walking tour kind
of a thing has been did that in like Mexico
City and Dublin and places you know where you kind
of get to sample different tours just online online, Yeah,
and you just how do you vet them? I should
(11:10):
say my partner Frank Gillespie is the one who's mostly
trust friends. Yeah, yeah, I'm vett.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Yeah, I feel like she probably has good standards. And
it's because now finding food anywhere, because the Internet has
is fundamentally broken. It's so difficult to find real recommendations
to anything.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
Yes, yeah, I don't know how she's googling this, but
I haven't complained. I was putting in the work, Yeah,
just putting in the work.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
On trips. I feel like, especially international trips, there's always
kind of a breaking point for me where there's a
real low point. Do you go through that experience?
Speaker 3 (11:46):
Yes, fully, I mean sometimes we're just like, oh, this
is one day too many, right, and maybe they're still
another day or two to go. This is all we
needed to do right in this city.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
I feel like I've decided that about ten days is
where I cap it off. Eleven or twelve days. I'm like,
oh no, I think that's right. I need to be
home now. This is just I'm enjoying myself, but I'm
just completely depleted and stressing out every moment of it.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
I also get to a city and I'm like, on
day one, I'm like, well, let's go to the I
know I want to hit this museum, and let's not
delay because what if something comes up and we can't, right,
I mean, do the museum or the restaurant or whatever
on like the first twenty four hours.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Yeah, that's a bit. That's actually a huge mistake.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
Yes, And then you kind of get to day three
and you're like, well, I guess if we could just
go wander around this part of town or something, and
sometimes that's great and other times not as much.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Yeah, that uh interesting. I've never really thought about that,
but yeah, I just ruined everything almost from the beginning.
And then I guess that's just a metaphor for my
entire life.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
I was like, I don't want to miss Guernica, so
I gotta go to day one and the PRADU was
not far.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
Do you have any vacation goals, any places you'd like
to go that you haven't been.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
Yes, I've never been to this in hemisphere. Okay, so Australia,
South America, anywhere, South America, Africa, you know, right, have
gotten below.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Refuse to go south of the equation.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
But I'm usually more of like going to a less
of like a resort beach guy, and more of a
like a.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
City, the whole experience of the country kind of thing.
That's more my speed. As well. If I go somewhere
and I'm in just one location the whole time, I
just think, why did I even come here?
Speaker 3 (13:27):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (13:28):
I could have just essentially imagined this at home. Yeah,
I needed to see all kinds of things. And I
don't mind just walking around. Yeah, just especially in Japan,
that's such an easy country to just wander around.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
Sure.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
Yeah. Mostly gets stressed about footwear.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Oh interesting, what's your footwear situation while you're traveling.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
Well, it's it's kind of the like how many shoes
am I going to pack? And then what kind of
you know, what's a good walking shoe?
Speaker 2 (13:52):
First?
Speaker 3 (13:53):
And in the kind of year to year, I'm like,
all right, I'm bringing the Hokahs to Portugal and then
then but I should pack some loafers as well. Loafers.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
What are you doing with loafers on a vacation just
for a nice dinner, I guess.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
So.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Yeah, I mean my bar for dressing on a vacation
is so low at this point because I refuse to
check a bag.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
So I mean, I'm probably doing just untold damage on
my body and my back by only wearing vans everywhere
I go, walking fifteen miles a day in vans. But
I'm gonna die either way.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
Yeah, it's working for you.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Yeah, it's working absolutely fine. But maybe I should I
don't know. I'd like to get to a point when
actually I think I'm at the point I need to be.
No check bags, it's a life ruiner.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
Yeah. I don't really ever check either unless absolutely Forcedill.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Yeah, and the check bag on the way there is
not as big of a deal unless they lose it.
But on the way back, waiting at a baggage carousel,
worse feeling in the world. You're exhausted, you have like
two hours left to get home. I just don't know
why anyone doesn't.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
Yeah, I feel like also when I was a kid,
if we want a vacation, we were checking bags. And
then when I first was an adult and like moved
to LA but then we go home or something. I
was always like, well, you got to check your bag,
Like it seemed like a luxury to bring a bag
onto a plane. And maybe I just had one giant
suitcase right right. I was like, who are these people
that have these like bring a suitcase on the plane.
(15:23):
It was like a status symbolt, And eventually I realized like, oh,
I can get a small suitcase and do that.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Right, Yeah, I guess like when I first moved to
LA and i'd go home, I would always First of all,
I was flying on Southwest, which you know, complicated airline,
but you could check a bag for free, and I
was like kind of using it as a stealth way
to move everything else out of my parents' house that
I haven't already. So it would be like sixty pounds
by the time I got it to the airport, but
(15:49):
it was And now I've got I've moved everything out.
I never need to return. They'll never see me. Forget it,
Mom and Dad. Well, I feel like, you know, as
far as packages go and this kind of thing bringing things,
there's something else I'd like to talk to you about. Yes, Well,
I at least feel like I need to talk to
you about. I was excited to have you today on
(16:12):
the podcast, so excited to be here, and so I said,
no gifts, and so I you know, I assume you
got an email or something. Hopefully you saw the title somewhere,
but I'm now starting to feel like you didn't, because
you showed up holding what is obviously I mean, any
any idiot could look at this and say that's a gift.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
Yes, it's it's pretty stereotypical. Ye, packaging for a gift. Yes,
cartoon character gift.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Yes, in kind of a birthday party wrapping with a
nice little blue bow on top.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
Is this for me? It is? And I can explain,
Oh you can. I bought this gift. I saw something
that I thought would be perfect for you, and I
bought this gift months ago, before I was ever booked
on the show, and this has just become the first
opera unity to give it to you till today. Oh
but I I well, I'll give you the story of
(17:07):
why I bought it months ago. But yes, so, so
it was a gift I've just been meaning to give you.
It's an unfortunate coincidence. I'm giving it to you on
your podcast.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Do this often on the podcast, but I'm willing to
open it.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
Okay, Well, it's a bobblehead of Vince Scully of the Dodgers,
the Dodger's former broadcaster, former announcer.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
Oh so, I mean, I'm really revealing in ignorance. I
just thought this was a baseball player.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
No, no, no, he was there, the announcer.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
I was scrolling through my Instagram, avid follower of yours.
I saw a clap I think you did with Best Show,
and it had extra you behind a mic. Next thing
I scrolled up, I think was an ad for I
think this bobblehead Night at dot Stadium. But it had
a photo of Vin Scully behind a mic, and I thought,
a young Vin Scully and a Ridger Weineger, aren't.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
They.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
I wouldn't say they look the same, but I would.
There are echoes, you know too, especially two photos in
a row behind microphones, right, how fascinating. And I thought,
I'm just gonna get this bobblehead and give it to Bridger,
because both the fates putting these things back to back.
Am I scroll and the algorithm is one of the
greatest broadcasters of our time. Of course that wanted number
(18:33):
one and two mean being number one, of course, Yes,
I agree. I know nothing about this guy. How long
was he doing this for? He he passed away a
couple of years ago. I want to say it was
over fifty years. He was like the announcer when like
Jackie Robinson was on the team, wow, up until and
he was the announcer up until like seven years ago. Maybe, Okay,
so he really did it for a long time, a
(18:55):
sort of legend in the field of sports broadcasting. Maybe
the legend and.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
The legend and murdered, I assume murdered in the end. Yeah,
I guess I hit squad.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
Yeah, yeah enough, Ye, you've got to get the hired
by the Padres. Yeah wow.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
So maybe I should start uh commentating on the Dodgers.
I don't see why I shouldn't. I could kind of,
you know, help you out if you every That's could
be like the launch of the campaign. Yeah, who's doing
it now? Some loser Actually is.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
A guy that's kind of quickly risen in the ranks
and now is announced its like football announces. He's a
very popular guy.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
TikToker. No, probably, Now I do have TikTok the podcast
does just to post clips of this show.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
Here's what I don't have it. And here's my question
that it didn't occur to me until like the last
couple of days. Is it closer to YouTube where like
most people don't make YouTube videos, they will watch YouTube videos.
Or is it close to Instagram where I think most
people who have Instagram use it at least somewhat right,
you know, in post or is there like a is
(20:05):
there a whole world of content creators and then just
mostly other people?
Speaker 2 (20:08):
Just kind such a good question. I mean, the only
things I'm exposed to feel like things that are made
on purpose content rather than like I'm showing you my
kids or whatever. Yeah, but I assume there's got to
be a whole world of that on there that I
just have zero interest in, and they've already figured that out.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
Yeah. I just wonder what percentagy users are making tiktoks?
Speaker 4 (20:30):
Right?
Speaker 2 (20:30):
Right?
Speaker 3 (20:31):
Do you download it because you think you're going to
make videos?
Speaker 2 (20:35):
I mean I think to watch them, probably eighty percent
of the population under twenty five years old is like, Yes,
that's what I'm going to do. I'm going to make
That's what a career is, which makes me sound like
I'm a thousand years old, but I really feel like
that's the only place people feel like they can make
money anymore is making content out of their real job.
Sometimes it'll be like, oh, I'm an electrician, but now
(20:56):
I'm the fun electrician or whatever. So but I assume
that there are probably just annoying people doing annoying stupid things.
Well I don't assume. I definitely have seen that, but
more unprofessionally. Yes, yes, where like, of course you're not
going to make it, you are bad at what you're doing.
But I wonder if there are people like bothering their
family to just like it's like the family TikTok.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
Following each other.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
Good.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
I guess I should both something right.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
Which seems like the most stressful thing I could possibly imagine.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
Yeah, I was never very good at Twitter, uhlex.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
And of course thank you, we'll beep Twitter, and uh.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
It did stress me. I was like, okay, I don't
just naturally come up with a tweet, right, really, I
just like, sweat over is this a funny little sentence?
And you know, maybe made like eighteen ever.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
So well, it was very Yeah, it was a stressful
place to be. I think if you wanted to work
in comedy, if you actually wanted to do it, like
you're like, people are looking at me, and I can't
embarrass myself this, I need to be good at this.
But then you see people who don't have that stress,
who're just like tweeting every thought they've ever had, and
that's just not how I operate.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
Know, I mean, that was what I was like jealous of.
I'd see people that just kind of could like flow
with it, and boy, I wish I had that that
sort of heltered kind of taken totally.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
But how are those people in the real world? Are
they annoying?
Speaker 3 (22:17):
Some of them are comedians and they figured it out,
you know, they locked in.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
And they're confident in themselves on some level.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
Of me constantly like no one cares about my take
on this, or like I'm just repeating something I have
nothing new to add to the conversation, which you know
still is a like he would just looking at like
should I post no one look at me.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
To That's how I feel where I'm like, I'll get
on any of these things and everyone I know has
already posted about it one hundred times. I'm like, what
am I doing?
Speaker 3 (22:46):
I feel like I have like a you don't have
anything to add to the conversation. Someone's already said something.
You don't need to repeat it, you know. But that's
I'm sure, a horrible attitude in many regards. And it
makes sense in like a writer's room or something, shouldn't
be applied to every aspect of life.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
Yeah, but that is how I was on Twitter most
of my experiences, Like, well, I'm just not going to
tweet about the oscars. I don't care. Everyone else is
already doing that all the time. Yes, so I'll just
take the night off. But some people just love making
quips about the thing that everyone's making.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
Quips're not like me, Well, let me make sure no
one else has made this joke already, Like yeah, I'll
just be the fortieth person to make this joke.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
Maybe if I started drinking, that would help, I don't know,
loosen me up a little bit. I need to drink
to get on Instagram.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
Yeah I should. I should have brought your liquor.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
That's only happened once on this podcast, and I had
a little sip and got very drunk on a lease
was scared. Everyone was like got to get him in
the house. It was dangerous. But maybe I will start
drinking to be online. I think that that's not the
worst idea at this point.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
It makes sense.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
Oh.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
The other thing I want to say about this body
well yeah, barely talked about is if you don't like it.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
But where's your receipt?
Speaker 3 (24:03):
But you do want another bobblehead you in any night
that there is a bobblehead night at Dodger Stadium, there
will be people outside the stadium as you're leaving who
are like trade bobbleheads and interesting because they want whatever
the new one is. I'll probably have one from a
previous game that maybe isn't you know, and in demand
value right, and so you can maybe just swap it.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
So there's a whole culture of that going on. Oh yeah,
there's something for everybody.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
Yeah, you can probably go trade this for like a
tyler Glass now bobble.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
I was going to say tyler glass. Now I've been
looking for one of his bobbles.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
Yeah, yeah, Wow.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
People are If there's a plastic doll of it, people
are after it and making their life about it. Yes, point,
which good for them. It hasn't happened to me yet,
but it could. Yeah, this could be the start of something.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
Yeah, I'd get the bridge of bobble Head.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
I would love. I would love for my life to
take a turn where people are like, remember when he
got that bobblehead and then he was just only buying
baseball bobble that's the specific. I've never been to a
Dodgers game. The traffic, cologne terrifying.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
I live about a mile from the stadium, so I
will walk there. Oh, that's a healthy happen and it's
a little Yeah. How long is.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
A baseball game?
Speaker 3 (25:13):
About two and a half hours? Okay, maybe they made
a few rule changes a few years ago to shortened games.
Oh and it worked, and so.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
Some editing is good for there.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
They're kind of bringing down the how long.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
Were they getting over?
Speaker 3 (25:25):
Three oh three?
Speaker 5 (25:26):
Is?
Speaker 2 (25:27):
No one respects anyone's time anymore.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
I know.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
It's just everyone thinks the thing they're doing should just
go on forever.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
Yeah, it is the amount. People are like get mad
though about like The Brutalists runtime or any movie that
has a long run time, and then they're like, well,
the Dodgers play one hundred and sixty two Brutalists.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
A year, you know, like you know, everything should be
measured and Brutalists. Yeah, I've only seen the first half
of The Brutalist because I'll only see the first half
of a three hour movie, So I don't know what happens.
But I had a lovely time and left.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
Oh but you missed Felicity Jones.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
Oh my god, I've got to get back to the
I'm getting in the car now.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
Yeah, I'll try to find a seventy billimeter projector.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
I should hop on. I need to finish Bows Afraid
in that or at least skim through. And I had
nothing against the movies except for the fact they were
too long.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
I've done a few of the like eight hour Hungarian
movie you have, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
And you sat through the whole thing? Were you on adderall?
Speaker 3 (26:24):
No? No, well, I do think is it santane? It
spelled satan tango? Okay, so tend to go. I don't know.
I think I broke that one up.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
But how long is that one?
Speaker 3 (26:35):
That's that's the one that's six and a half to
eight hours somewhere in the cara. I can't remember exactly.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
What's going on in six and a half slow cinema.
I think they call it, and were you at.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
Home while watching? I was at home?
Speaker 5 (26:47):
Yeah, any seven hours and thirty minutes a perfect runtime.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
My new rule is I'll walk out of a three
hour movie halfway through, or I'll watch a full seven
and a half hour movie. Yeah, that's and a half hours.
I'll be in the theater because you've basically moved in.
Yeah wait, but did you watch this at home?
Speaker 3 (27:05):
At home? But I have a projector, and you know,
I try to make a nice, a nice evening.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
Of it, right, do you pause and like get dinner?
Speaker 3 (27:13):
Yeah? Okay, yeah? Or or like yeah, maybe even split
it up into a couple of nights.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
Yeah, because I feel like sitting through that entire thing
is a uti waiting to happen. Just you got a
bathroom breaks? I mean, that's worse than a flight.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
I'm taking some breaks, but I try to also get
you know, yeah, like I mean, how do you get?
Speaker 2 (27:33):
Wow, that's amazing. My attention span really had. I feel
like I used to have a really good one and
has just been destroyed, absolutely destroyed. I have to go
to a movie theater in order to watch a movie
because at home so difficult to get away from my
stupid phone, and a movie has to be so engaging,
and so I can't imagine what seven and a half hours.
(27:53):
I guess that would be like a goal, like something
to rewire my brain.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
Yeah, I mean I feel like that with TV more
than film. I feel like this film will be done
in a couple of hours, right, so I can sit
and watch it and even if I'm don't like it,
if there's something I'm taking from it that, you know,
I'll appreciate that. And a TV show where I just
watch an episode and I'm like, I got to really
dedicate like seven more hours of my life to just
(28:18):
this season alone. Especially it's one way you should watch
the show. And there's four seasons, and that's where I
not the four seasons, but you know, also the commitment
of like restart starting a new episode, starting an episode,
I don't know. That's that's where I have a harder
time people.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
Who are really able to like binge a show like
in a couple of nights. That doesn't make any sense
to me.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
Yeah, I'll watch like four shows maybe a year, right,
or four seasons of a show.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
Yeah, I like I started, we started in this home
watching a Little House on the Prayer.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
I've been I've been keeping up on the pod.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
But like I started talking about it, and I think
I feel like listeners have absolutely lapped me there.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
Like I just started season three.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
We just finished season one because we're watching one episode
a night, so it takes and what like not even
every night of the week. It's like two a week,
and other people are watching four a night and just
blowing through this thing. I don't think I'll be a lot.
I don't think i'll live long enough to watch the
whole season. I see.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
I really like and Or. Oh I love and Or,
but I'm still I have three episodes left and I
love it. But it is almost like, well, let me
make sure I've set aside the night and I'm not
gonna get distracted, and I'm watching a new to me
and Or right, and it really takes my time.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
So the first season of Andor I blew through, and
then there was such a long break that I forgot everything.
And so season two was a little bit me like
going in and out a bit because it's like, what's
going on? Who is this person? I need to watch
it all in a row.
Speaker 3 (29:45):
I actually didn't watch any of it until this year,
So what an experience. So I've been going straight through
the twenty four episodes or whatever.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
Are you a Star Wars person?
Speaker 3 (29:53):
Yes, I mean for sure I am in terms like
when I was a kid, right and all of that.
I haven't really kept up on the TV shows. I
think this is the only one. How could you possibly?
Speaker 2 (30:04):
Yeah, there are a thousand episodes of all of those
different shows.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
Yeah, yeah, and I know people love like the animated
Clone Wars, and I've watched some of that as well,
just see what it was all about. But you know, again,
any animated I tried to watch like Demon Slayer one time, and.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
Oh, sure, how many episodes of that?
Speaker 3 (30:20):
Was probably? Like so that was pretty good. I got
like four in. I'm like, I just don't think I'm
gonna make it through all of them.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
Yeah, there's a different brain of person who can watch
five hundred episodes of an animated show like just in
a few months. For me, that's a lifetime goal. Yes,
and I will fail at it. I will absolutely fail
at it.
Speaker 3 (30:38):
Eventually get through the Flintstones.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
I'm working so hard. I need to see if they
stick together, the family doesn't break up.
Speaker 3 (30:46):
I don't have the kids yet.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
Yeah, I need to see them get to the modern car. Yeah,
that's who was the Flintstones four? Was that for children
or adults?
Speaker 3 (30:57):
I mean, I guess family entertainment for both. They like,
we're kind of doing the Honeymooners, but it's a cartoon,
so kids will want to watch, but it's on in
prime time.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
I think, Yeah, it kind of doesn't make sense to
me as a TV show anymore because it's not like
Simpson's Level for mostly for adults, but it's not really
for chure. I mean, like the Dinosaurs are for children.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
I'm almost positive, Well, okay, that's that was way too strong.
I have a vague suspicion I a memory that there's
an episode of Flintstones where they're trying to like maybe
maybe they didn't maybe they adopted the kids. I forget
what it is, but they're like not gonna Barney and
Betty are not gonna be able to adopt bam bam
(31:38):
or something. And Barney goes to he goes to a
bridge and like ties a boulder to his waiste and
he's gonna like commit suicide. I'm like, is that? Did
that really happen? On the flint Stows? There is this
like a dream I had when I was seven and
then like h taking it as cannon for years.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
Wow. What a dark episode of the Flintstone. Wow you
think he would have I mean, I guess he wasn't
ready to be a father.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
No, or he was sad that they weren't gonna he
wasn't going to get to be one.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
Yeah, but I mean, if if it's that big of
an issue, he's got some things to work to it
before he adopts the kid. Yeah, and the adoption agency
saw that you're kind of a little too. Yeah, sir,
work on yourself a little bit. But if you're gonna
throw yourself off a bridge because your adoption got declined,
they don't get declined denied option, adoption denied.
Speaker 3 (32:28):
They ran the car to it got declined. Sorry, paperwork,
we needed a file, just to wow.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
I wonder if they ever got the kid.
Speaker 3 (32:37):
I would bet by the end of the episode they did.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
I would hope. So yeah, that's kind of how TV
used to work. The problem was usually solved. There is
an episode of Little House on the Prairie where Laura
goes to meet God at the top of a mountain.
Just a surreal thing to watch. And then she gets
to the bottom of the mountain at the end and
having not met God, but maybe there's a secret guy
living in the woods who maybe it's very honestly kind
(32:59):
of scary.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
That's interesting.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
Like the sort of thing I was watching was like,
if I was watching this as a kid, I would
be terrified. She just meets this weird guy in the
mountains who may or may not be a spiritual or yeah,
she might be hallucinating. I thought she ate something in
the woods kind of off camera. What a show, What
an experience. The reboots got a lot to live up too.
Speaker 3 (33:21):
Yeah, I was. We were not a little house on
the prairie. It's probably because two boys, me and my brother, oh,
I feel like, and also living in Japan, we had
one TV channel, oh from like eight to ten, so
we didn't get what was airing on that there was
like the premost slot was Sunday at eight I think
it was eight, and half the year was Cosby Show
(33:42):
and half the year it was Roseanne.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
Okay, interesting two people who have gone on to do
so many.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
Exactly, we didn't get Simpsons there. They would just you know,
sometimes show a baseball game or something on right. That
was probably tape certainly tape delayed.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
That sounds so refreshing to just not have an option
of what to watch on TV.
Speaker 3 (34:02):
Yeah, now you could flip to the Japanese channels as well,
But then you write some of the crazy game shows.
Someone's falling in water. That's fun, but we you know,
you can not understand it.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
Right, What did you watch that documentary about the Japanese
game show about the guy who's like, what happened? They
just kept him in an apartment.
Speaker 3 (34:18):
For really, I know what you're talking about, but I
haven't watched.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
That at least. Is that sound familiar to you? It
was brutal to watch. They basically drove this man out
of his mind.
Speaker 3 (34:26):
Yeah, in like solitary confinements. Right, It's really a scary
thing to watch.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
But the country was having a ball watching him just
kind of break down. Yeah, I think we need to
get back to only having two TV shows. We need
to get back to your childhood.
Speaker 3 (34:42):
Experience having armed forces network.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
The armed forces need to take over all in some ways,
I believe that. In some ways, I think that may
be a dark way for the country.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
Occasionally get like a Baltimore Orioles game, you know, Wow,
did you have a favorite between Roseanne and Cosby?
Speaker 2 (35:02):
This will reflect on you as a person.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
Hmmm, that's a good question. I was a big fan
of both. I don't. It really was kind of like
one would end. You'd be like, great, now Roseanne's coming
next week. Then that would end, You're like Lord Cosby
showed you know at the time, classic shows.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
Yeah, nobody knew anything, knew the better you knew, the
wiser is that?
Speaker 3 (35:24):
What do you say?
Speaker 2 (35:24):
I don't know. But and one had Lori Metcalf. That's true,
So I don't know anything with Lori Metcalf. I'm on board.
Although I've never watched it. I think I've seen one
episode of Roseanne won half well the commercial for the Conners.
But I have seen Getting On? Have you seen Getting On?
Speaker 3 (35:40):
I haven't seen Getting On. I've seen her in a
couple of plays though.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
But they were phenomenal. Oh yeah, she's so good.
Speaker 3 (35:45):
Yeah, she's amazing.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
Well, is there anything left to say about Vin Scully?
I mean, he's dead, so I don't have to push
him out of the way.
Speaker 3 (35:52):
No, I would say, you know, if you want to
sell that, keep it in the box, put it on eBay.
I don't think you're going to get a huge price,
but I wouldn't treat it too much like a collector's
eye might think. You can have to do with.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
The gas station seventy six.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
Do you see that that's just a sponsor. I'm sure
they paid. They paid for the bobblehead, yeah, or the
the offset some of the costs by saying, you know,
will sell use some ad space on.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
The side of the box is behind this.
Speaker 3 (36:20):
They did a thing at the dog I went to
the Dodger game on Saturday, huh, and they it was
like a full moon and they had a shot at
the beautiful full moon and then they like cross faded
to the seventy six orb that like it's just in
the outfield. Is just you know, as a sponsored thing.
That sort of weird, Like that's how it should be.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
We shouldn't have to look at the moon. We should
have to look at.
Speaker 3 (36:42):
The circle the moon shot game sponsored collab with the moon.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
Yeah, they should be putting ads on the moon. We're
not far from that, I imagine. I wonder how you would
do that. Have you driven past the Tesla Diner?
Speaker 3 (36:56):
No, where where is somebody?
Speaker 2 (36:57):
Well, I don't want to, I don't want to encourage
tear or or shopping at this thing. But it's all
It's somewhere in Hollywood, one of the most hideous buildings
ever created.
Speaker 3 (37:09):
I just I've heard it exists, but I.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
Just looking over at it, it was goober city. Everybody there
was just a loser. They were playing the matrix. It's
just everything you could possibly imagine it is. And I
wonder what they'll make of it when they close it.
What could that possive. I mean, it's not big, it's.
Speaker 3 (37:27):
Also a dealership or it's just like it's just.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
A diner, and I think you can charge your tesla there.
But what does that become after it goes out of
business is the big question. Can't be a Halloween superstore,
can't be a ross. Those are kind of the two
things that move in.
Speaker 3 (37:45):
Maybe a Kona charge that's not a bad.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
A star they do turn these gas stations into Starbucks.
M oh, I'm curious to see. It's one of the
ugliest things I've ever seen. And that's such a sad
thing that that exists. But what do you make of
the bumper stickers that say I bought this before Elon
went crazy?
Speaker 3 (38:07):
I think it would be funny to put that on
your car if it's not a tesla.
Speaker 2 (38:10):
Oh yeah, that's I thought of that often. Actually, I wait, I.
Speaker 3 (38:15):
Do an Elon Musk story. But I don't want to
be too You can cut this out if it's boring.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
But no, I mean I'm intrigued already.
Speaker 3 (38:22):
Okay, and I you're married. So when I was a
young writer, starting out youngish, my friend Harriswittles was writing
on Parks and rec with Mike Scully, who I had
not ever met, and he and Harris said, hey, Mike
Scully was saying, the Simpsons are looking for more writers.
(38:44):
Mind if I give your script? He had read like
a script script I'd written. He said, mind if I
give Mike Scully your script to pass along to the Simpsons.
I said, please, that'd be exciting. Uh he did. I
got called in for an interview with al Jean growing
in and I met with Al Jean and I just
had to bring a few ideas and stuff, like I
(39:04):
remember this is how Fargo long ago. This was like.
One of my ideas was like, there's this thing called
the Hunger Games and they're going to make it into movies,
and like Bart and Lisa could be in a Hunger
Games type thing and you get ahead of like the
movies I think are going to be a big kind
of Anyway, the meeting was great, but never heard anything.
A year and a half later I got an email
from Algene and he said, hey, would you want to
(39:24):
write a freelance script? We would need it in two weeks.
You know, but you write an episode of The Simpsons, right.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
So of course now they were doing that that recently,
I mean in the last fifteen years.
Speaker 3 (39:32):
Yeah, they really, because they used to be in w
GA if you had a certain episode order, you had
to spread the wealth zone have like freelance writers.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
Interesting, I'm not sure who enforced.
Speaker 3 (39:42):
That if you didn't, but anyway, sometimes I was doing
it still. So he was like, great, we have these
story notes and would you want so so we just
have a few notes and you'll just need to turn
in a draft like two weeks. I said, I'd love
to do this, obviously be an honor and it was.
And don't get me wrong, and they went, okay, you
know who Elon Musk is and I didn't, and I sure,
(40:03):
and of course I do. I googled it was like
this again, like pre Tesla at least Tesla in the US,
and it was I googled it and it was a
PayPal billionaire who's into clean energy, and I had never
heard of him, and I went, okay, sure, yeah, and
they sent me the notes. It was like two pages
of notes, and it was basically a story that's like
Elon Musk comes to Springfield and he mister Burns gets
(40:26):
upset with him. That like gets upset the Springfield loves
an energy billionaire and hates him. And he was going
to be the guest voice, you know, playing himself. And
so I wrote this draft. I had never really written,
apart from a specscript like a half hour narrative. I
think I'd written on one season of comedy Bang Bang
ok point anyway, wrote the draft went to like a
(40:46):
table read a year later. The script's totally different from
what I wrote, But that's part for the courus of
Simpsons known to expect that Elon Musk's at the table reading,
you know, does it signs the script and stuff? Again,
this is all like maybe now Tesla's around, but just
kind of before I, like I even thought of him
as like a public figure. Did The episode comes out
and airs now years later and I, you know, Simpsons
(41:10):
was like my ship. I love Simpsons growing up. It
like shaped my sense of humor. I was so honored
to touch it in some way. And like years later
it is like, this is the worst episode ever of Simpsons.
If they took the Michael jacksone off the air, they
should take this one off the air. This is like
propaganda for like who is Neil Campbell? Like who wrote this?
(41:30):
Like it wasn't even right around the Simpsons And he
comes in and writes this like puff piece for you
lot of us.
Speaker 2 (41:35):
It's kind of Ah, that was a nightmare.
Speaker 3 (41:37):
Yeah, So so one episode of the Simpsons credited to
my name, and uh, and it certainly has its detractors.
Speaker 2 (41:46):
Oh that's really a shame. What an absolutely yeah, it's like.
Speaker 3 (41:50):
A monkey's paulk any any episode of them, any episode?
Speaker 2 (41:55):
Okay, Oh that's so tough.
Speaker 3 (41:57):
You know, no one knew at the time, I guess,
but uh and I was still very grateful too, But wow,
kind of could it have exploded it a worse way
for me?
Speaker 2 (42:08):
Who do you think is a worse energy person, mister
Burns or Elon musk.
Speaker 3 (42:13):
Well, In the world of the Simpsons, there's barely Anything
wrong with Elon Musk in Springfield is Burns.
Speaker 2 (42:20):
But I mean, I will say this for mister Burns
compared to Elon Musk, mister Burns is funny. Yes, that's
Elon Musk. That's the one thing he wants to be
and never will be. Yes, never, No, of course, there's
no one has ever tried harder to be funny and
never been funny. It's amazing to watch that man fail
at being funny. One of the most annoying people alive.
(42:41):
Elon don't reach out? Well, what a story. Oh God,
I'm sorry. You're just gonna live with that curse forever.
Speaker 3 (42:48):
Life takes some funny twists and turns. Well.
Speaker 2 (42:51):
I think we should play a game. We're gonna play
a game called Gift Master. But I need a number
between one and ten from you.
Speaker 3 (42:57):
Eight.
Speaker 2 (42:58):
Okay. I have to do some light calculating to get
our game pieces, so that right now you can recommend, promote,
do whatever you want.
Speaker 3 (43:03):
I'll be right about okay. What I would promote is
the TV show Digman. I co created it with Andy
Samberg and have been running it. Our first season is
on Paramount Plus our second season at the time we're
doing this interview is airing on Comedy Central and will
eventually be on Paramount Plus. I say with a good
amount of confidence, But there's just been a huge merger
(43:23):
that's happened. I don't really know when it will be
on Paramount Plus, and I don't know what the future
of all these things are. But anyway, I'm quite proud
of it second season, very excited for people to see.
So hopefully you'll eventually be able to find it gorgeous.
Speaker 2 (43:39):
Yeah, everybody go watch Digman hopefully. Ah, these mergers, let's
get back again at least the two just two streaming
networks or something. Yeah, I need to there are too
many subscriptions at this point.
Speaker 3 (43:52):
Yeah, it's just and with this stuff or people like
when's it going to stream? Like I would have had
a clear answer.
Speaker 2 (44:00):
It's crazy that you don't know if anyone in the
world should know when the show is going to be
on something.
Speaker 3 (44:04):
I read when it should, which is like February of
next year. Sure, but I don't know that that is.
Things won't change, could change for the better and come
out right it comes sooner or could come?
Speaker 2 (44:17):
Never was wow, Paramount because now there it's the sky Dance. Yes,
we love the name sky Dance, so beautiful, so evocative.
I don't know what it is or where it came from,
but good for everyone for merging and whatever. Okay, let's
play gift masks. Thank you. I'm going to name three
celebrities and then I'm going to name three gifts and
(44:39):
you're going to tell me which gift you would give
which celebrity and why.
Speaker 3 (44:42):
All right, so that makes perfect sense, makes perfect sense.
Speaker 2 (44:45):
Okay, Today you'll be giving the gifts to number one
Sam Bankman Freed kind of a polarizing figure, sure, Number
two post malone, Number three Christine Baranski. And these are
the gifts you'll be giving. Number one is a family
of four, less traditional, more of an experience, well, an
(45:05):
experience and objects if you imagine people as objects. Number
two a USB chord, which is I need to say
less this is your game. And number three is Anderson Cooper.
Speaker 3 (45:19):
Mmmm. I'm going to give the USB cord to Christine Baranski, okay,
because I feel not to pass make a judgment that that.
But like me, I still have my iPhone needs the
like lightning cable. Sure, so I'm not fully USB c's right,
(45:40):
So I would imagine Christine Baranski might have some need
for you USB and not USB C.
Speaker 2 (45:45):
She doesn't strike me as a tech heads.
Speaker 3 (45:48):
Yeah, and I feel like post Malone and Sam Bankman
Freed haven't used just a standard US They've gone to
USBC everything right right for a while, so they would
have no U for it. I feel like she probably
has a few devices that could use it.
Speaker 2 (46:04):
Out of these three people, I bet she's the one
that has a junk drawer. You can throw that in. Yeah,
those other two guys don't have I don't think post Alone.
I think he's a vagabond. He just is all over
the country at all times.
Speaker 3 (46:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (46:16):
And Sam Bankman Fried probably lives in some sort of chamber.
Speaker 3 (46:20):
Yeah. Now I'm tempted to say I think Postalone feels
like a guy who's kind of a little bit like
has the values of like family, like would want a
family and and say make me Freed. I'd think once publicity,
once coverage, so I can imagine, but I'm gonna flip
it and then say, I think Sam Bankman Free should
have the family to maybe sort of see some other
(46:43):
priorities in maybe he'll realize open his eyes his eyes
a bit.
Speaker 2 (46:49):
The organic world.
Speaker 3 (46:50):
Yes, yes, right, beautifully put and then it's sort of
by default leaves Anderson Cooper to postalone. But you know,
maybe as an artist, Cooper can help postmon gonna get
past the first thought on something, dig deep with an interview,
have him kind of explore.
Speaker 2 (47:10):
And what an odd couple situations? Yeah, a lot A
pair in a one bedroom apartment. They're getting on each
other's nerves. Anderson is so tidy. Post Malone is, you know,
beer everywhere, just an absolute slob. I know, so little thoughts.
Speaker 3 (47:26):
The same here. I try to think of the name
of a But I.
Speaker 2 (47:30):
Feel like Anderson Cooper would help him clean up his act,
and post Malone might help Anderson loosen up a bit.
Speaker 3 (47:36):
Yeah, that's true. Could be. I mean they could do
an odd couple revival.
Speaker 2 (47:40):
Yes, they should. They should do one on Broadway.
Speaker 3 (47:42):
On Broadway.
Speaker 2 (47:43):
I think that's what the world needs.
Speaker 3 (47:44):
Yeah, get a Oh what's his name? Who directed the Oh?
Never mind Steven Spielberg. Oh we know he directed The Graduate.
Speaker 2 (47:57):
Oh what is that guy's name directed? Uh, he's directed
so many great movies.
Speaker 3 (48:03):
And I listened to the entire audio book of his
Holy Mike Nichols, Mike Lee, and I knew that was
the another great direct great director for more recent and
I just couldn't get Lee out of my head and
replace it with me. Oh yeah, anyway, you just yeah,
take his old blocking.
Speaker 2 (48:18):
Notes to do right? You bring him back from the dead.
Speaker 3 (48:22):
Why not? Or get his daughter in love Rachel Nichols
to direct.
Speaker 2 (48:25):
Rachel Nichols get.
Speaker 3 (48:27):
Is she really? That's right?
Speaker 2 (48:29):
Wow, Rachel, let's team up. Let's make me the next
Vin Scully. She should do a puff piece on me.
Speaker 3 (48:34):
That'd be good.
Speaker 2 (48:35):
Yeah, that's probably the next natural step for her career.
Speaker 3 (48:39):
I give the puffy requested.
Speaker 2 (48:43):
I need to hire.
Speaker 3 (48:44):
It hurts the journalists feelings, and you refer to it
that lie.
Speaker 2 (48:50):
I need to get some sort of pr team to
get me in Sports Illustrated or something I should be on.
I should be their next swimsuit model.
Speaker 3 (48:57):
I agree.
Speaker 2 (48:57):
Why not Martha was I'm a Martha Stewart type. People
are clamoring for me to be on the cover of SI.
Speaker 3 (49:05):
Yeah, or do you do you know when they would
do this sort of sexy it's actually just painted on.
Speaker 2 (49:09):
Oh yeah, it's time for the painting on. Yeah, yes,
And then Access Hollywood can do a whole piece on that.
Speaker 3 (49:16):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (49:17):
Wow, I'll be all over the place. Rachel. This starts
with you. I don't know, it's such a loose connection.
Speaker 3 (49:24):
Yeah, we said the name of your deceased father in law.
Why would you not your back.
Speaker 2 (49:30):
Is against the one. Okay, well, I feel like we
should get to the final segment of the podcast. This
is called I said no emails. People are writing in
and hopefully sending voice notes to I said no gifts
at gmail dot com. We help me answer a question
you would love Okay, this is let's see here High Bridger.
They don't even mention you, which is so rude. So
(49:52):
let's say Hybridger and Neil, I love the show and
wondered if you would help me with a problem. My
wife thinks she hates Mexican food, but whenever I convince
her to eat it, she actually loves it. How do
I get her to understand she actually loves Mexican food.
I can't think of a Mexican food she doesn't like,
like she absolutely loves Nacho's and she always eats half
my torta when I order one, despite being gluten sensitive.
(50:15):
Thanks for your help, and that's from James.
Speaker 3 (50:17):
Interesting what do.
Speaker 2 (50:19):
We Okay, let's think about this email for a minute.
Is the wife racist? Maybe?
Speaker 3 (50:25):
Could it be?
Speaker 2 (50:26):
So that's just a possibility. We'll put that out, but
we'll put it aside. Truly the first thing that comes
to mind for me. Okay. And also it sounds like
he wants us to help gaslight his wife mm hmm
in some ways. But he's saying she's gluten sensitive. I
actually am seeing a real problem here. This woman's eating bread.
(50:48):
It's making her sick, and so of course she can't
like the cuisine because she doesn't realize that it's causing
all of these whatever issues happen in her stomach.
Speaker 3 (50:58):
Well, there certainly is our tortilla versus a corn tortilla
is going to be a difference for someone with gluten sensitivity.
Speaker 2 (51:05):
Yes, you have to go with the corn tortilla. You
have to go with it. Well, they're just corn chips.
But my sister is celiac and so there's I like
for actually getting into the allergen issues here. Maybe the
wife is getting cross contamination on the nachos, or maybe
the cheese sauce has wheat allergens in it. James is
(51:26):
not thinking about his wife's health. All he's thinking about
is his favorite cuisine.
Speaker 3 (51:31):
No, and this could be a you know, a bad
situation where he's trying to.
Speaker 2 (51:36):
Family. Yeah, he's trying to poison her. This is kind
of like putting poison in the soup for six weeks.
Speaker 3 (51:44):
Yes, yeah, we got a phantom thread kind of operation happening.
Speaker 2 (51:48):
But honey, you love Mexican food, I'll bring it to
you in bed.
Speaker 3 (51:53):
I also would it seemed like a lot of it,
And maybe I was just inferring this. It was perhaps
takeout orders. I wonder if you were like, Hey, I've
planned a big, fun night out and it's to this
really nice restaurant. It happens to be Mexican cuisine, right,
but we're I'm taking you out for a lovely evening.
Is that going to help mark it? Yeah? And you'll
(52:15):
see the whole menu of options and go, oh, well,
this wouldn't affect my sensitivity and all that.
Speaker 2 (52:21):
And if they're let's say, if they're getting take out
and she's getting nachos. First of all, she's bad at
ordering things that does not travel. That's a soggy chip.
I feel like I'm frustrated with the wife. Let's say
it Mexican food is for everyone loves it. It's a
fun food.
Speaker 3 (52:36):
Yeah, what's the problem. What's wrong with this person?
Speaker 2 (52:38):
I know?
Speaker 3 (52:38):
And we just have to imagine James is a sort
of stereotypical impact husband.
Speaker 2 (52:46):
The wife is always the issue, This bore wife. She's
always nagging, nagging about how she doesn't.
Speaker 3 (52:53):
Like Mexican while he's, you know, probably a firefighter.
Speaker 2 (52:57):
He's putting his life on the line every We've got
a first responder who loves Mexican food and a wife
who won't let him eat.
Speaker 3 (53:05):
Is not honey, I brought him some nacho. Sorry, I'm late.
There was a foe alarmed fire.
Speaker 2 (53:10):
Let me just clean off this ash, clear my lung.
Speaker 3 (53:12):
Well, it's not bonbonds. You're right, I'm sorry, dear.
Speaker 2 (53:20):
Well, we solved it. I think we ultimately solved it.
Speaker 3 (53:23):
We kind of went from accusing him of big a
murderer too, thinking that he's actually the most wonderful man
on her. Vote for James.
Speaker 2 (53:33):
Vote for James to get a divorce from this lady,
and hopefully it's a wake up call for her. Yes,
she doesn't know what she's got and it's time for
her to tune into this she's not even a listener
of the podcast.
Speaker 3 (53:44):
Apparently not.
Speaker 2 (53:45):
This lady sucks right.
Speaker 3 (53:46):
If she hears this, then is up? God?
Speaker 2 (53:49):
Wow, you know some people, some people's wives. That's what
I'll say. We answered the question more than perfectly. I
think so we ruined marriage. But we may have created
a new fan of Mexican food. Maybe that's the real
hope there.
Speaker 3 (54:07):
We can always use one more, Yeah, we could always
use one more.
Speaker 2 (54:11):
And now I've got this gorgeous not only bubblehead, but
now career goal. Yes, and it's one of the rare
career goals where I don't have to kill someone to
get to where I need to be. And I feel
great about it. I feel like Dodgers fans will embrace me.
Speaker 3 (54:26):
Hey, I do you do?
Speaker 2 (54:27):
It starts with one person, one brave person. Someone needed
to speak up, and you did, and so I'll be
in the stadium shortly, I imagine, let's do it. Who
could ask for more? Well, I've had such a wonderful time.
Speaker 3 (54:41):
Yeah, thank you so much for having me here, an
honor to be here. I'm a big fan.
Speaker 2 (54:44):
Oh you're very sweet show, thank you for being here
and listener the podcast is screeching to a halt. I'm
slamming on the brakes. Hopefully we all have our seat
belts on and we'll walk away alive. But it is over.
I love you, goodbye, I said, No Gifts is an
(55:04):
exactly right production. Our senior producer is on Alisa Nelson,
and our episodes are beautifully mixed by Ben Holliday. The
theme song is by miracle Worker Amy Mann, and we
couldn't do it without our booker, Patrick Cottner. You must
follow the show on Instagram at I said no Gifts,
that's where you're going to see pictures of all these
wonderful gifts I'm getting. And don't you want to see
(55:27):
the gifts line?
Speaker 1 (55:29):
Why did you hear? Gonta man? Myself perfectly clear? But
you're a guest to me. You gotta come to me empty,
And I said.
Speaker 4 (55:46):
No guests, your presences, presents, and I already too much stuff.
So how do you dare to surbey me?
Speaker 1 (56:00):
The fifty
And I invited you here. I thought I made myself
perfectly clear. When you're a guest to my home, you
gotta come to me empty. And I said, no, guess
you're presences presents enough. I already had too much stuff,
(00:35):
So how do you dare to surbey me?
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Welcome to, I said, no gift, temperature wineger. We're in
the backyard, which is such a lovely feeling. You know,
it's been a minute since we've been back here, largely
because it's summer. But it's a pre noon recording, so
we'll only be sweating about halfway through the episode. For now.
I feel great that's going on. I woke up feeling
(01:13):
very ambitious this morning, but that's over now and I
got nothing accomplished. Last night I had a dream I
went on a cruise which was unbelievably stressful. What an experience.
And that leads us to now that's my day. That's
me before eleven am, and I think we should get
(01:35):
into the podcast. Today's guest is absolutely wonderful. It's Neil Campbell. Neil,
Welcome to.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
I said, no gifts, thank you for having me. Oh,
of course, how are you feeling? I'm feeling excited. I'm
excited to be here. Are you warm? I'm warm, but
not uncomfortable.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Okay, great, you're in a summary. Look I like this.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Yeah, yeah, you know, gotta break out the short sleeves.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
I have a very similar to this. I almost wore
it this morning, and that would have a disaster for
the podcasts.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Is it from Gant?
Speaker 2 (02:02):
It's not. Wait, what is that?
Speaker 3 (02:04):
I don't I don't know if they existed anymore, but
it was some brand that was around for a minute.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
How do you spell that? G A N T Gant.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
Gant, Yeah, and they had a store and it was
Gant Rugger or something like that.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Gant is not a pleasant It doesn't sound like clothing.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
To know, and I'm very possibly mispronouncing it Gaunt Gaunt.
It might have been a very soft g and I
don't know.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Gante sounds like they sell drills or something. Gaunt it
sounds too.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
GoF yeah, or or too kind of super skinny or right.
And Jant, yeah, well, now we know they didn't take off.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Jant sounds like a discount retailer, maybe kind of a
ross competitor. Maybe I'll open a Jant. Ross is popping
up everywhere there's a I just saw a new Ross
is opening. Really, I don't know what the epidemic of
Ross is, but I think it's the worst of those
type of discount stores.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
I'm not I haven't. I'm actually not sure I've been
into ave never been in a Ross. No, and I'm
a stranger to a discount store, but I just don't
know that my path has led me to a Roth.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Have you been in a TJ Max?
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (03:14):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Have you been in a Marshalls?
Speaker 3 (03:16):
Yes? I think so.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Okay, and then let's see. Then we've got nordsomb Rack
is a little bit sure, the top tier. And then
we have a Burlington coat factory, which they don't call
a coat factory anymore, right.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
But I think we have both. Both Burlington and TJ
Max were near my high school. Oh sure, I've only
popped into both of those.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
We're around back to school shopping season. Was that like
an annual thing for you?
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Yes, I guess so a little bit, But I it
was probably years before I really was paying much attention
to what I was wearing, So it was more of like, okay, annied,
like one new shirt, that's cool, this, you know, my
new Union Bay shirt.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Or something Union Bay. God bless they Union Bay. And
there was another one that was like Ocean Pacific.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
I think, yeah, yeah, maybe yeah, Union BAYFK was just
in department stores, yes, as opposed to having its own
like brick and mortar.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Right, I feel like that was in Mervyn's. Did you
have Mervyns?
Speaker 3 (04:11):
Where are you from? I'm from mostly Fairfax, Virginia.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Okay, so Murvins may not have gotten to I.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
Don't think I had Mervyn's. We had J. C. Penny
and Lord and Taylor, and J j C. Penny was
our in Seares. We're our two department stores, Lord and Taylor.
I've always assumed as maybe because of Anne Taylor. Now
this is why I'm so stupid. I just assumed it
was a women's only store. But well, well I don't
even know that. I just remember fair Oaks Mall having
sort of four kind of three or four different InCor
(04:38):
stores ancor department stores, you know that sort of led
you in. And I don't actually think we were a
Lord and Taylor family. So it's possible they could have
been telling, you know, lumber for all of them. But
JAC Penny and series we hit up.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Hot least, do you have anything to say about Lord
and Taylor? Do you know anything about this company?
Speaker 3 (04:55):
Looks like they're still around.
Speaker 5 (04:56):
It seems they do make men's clothes.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Okay, Oh so it's kind of more of a.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
They only had.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Yeah, it's like a department store.
Speaker 5 (05:03):
I always thought of it as a department store, like
a little fancier than Nordstrum Lord my brain strum, But
that's you know, that's my Colorado like brain talking. So
who's no, who knows if that is an accurate you know.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Right, Nordstrom was the ceiling as far as a fancy department.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
Store, we do not have a Nordstrom.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Yeah, that was a big one. And I don't think
I ever got any back to school clothing at Nordstrom.
Are you are all the malls in your hometown gone?
Speaker 3 (05:30):
I don't know. I haven't. Everyone moved away after I
went to college, but I don't think they're all gone.
I think I think Fair Oaks Small might still be kicking.
But I guess I don't know how I would have
found out otherwise.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Where is Where is your family ended up?
Speaker 3 (05:48):
My mom now lives in Arizona, Okay, and my brother
lives in Seattle, Washington. When I went to college, I
went to the University of Iowa. And then when I
was there, my dad had worked with a civilian but
worked for the military, had been at the Pentagon.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
Then went to an army based in Germany. So then
I was in college. They were in Germany. Wow. Then
they moved nearby brother and he was living in Portland, Orgon.
They moved there.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
So yeah, so you were moving around a lot as
a kid.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
I would say zero to ten. Yes. I was born
in Atlanta, New Jersey, Virginia. Lived in Japan for a
few years on an army base where in Japan, an
army base called Camp Zama that's near Tokyo. Oh. Wow.
And then back to Virginia. And so then Virginia ten
to eighteen.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Did you pick up any Japanese?
Speaker 3 (06:34):
Not really, it was an American Army base.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Oh right.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
We would learn how to like sing some songs where
we had a class called culture. We'd like paint kanji
and learned some phrases, but not conversational.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Can you remember any of the songs?
Speaker 3 (06:45):
Well, there's that one and I don't want to offend,
but it's like the like Sakura.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
I was like that same melody of every there's like
a million songs and I feel like there's a French
version of that.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
Yeah, probably Jacques. Yes, is that how you profess?
Speaker 2 (07:01):
I mean my apologies to our French listeners.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
But yeah. One stayed with the Japanese family for a
few days once and then their son came and stayed
with us.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
And have you been back as an adult?
Speaker 3 (07:13):
I went back in twenty eighteen.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
How was that experience?
Speaker 3 (07:15):
It was fun? It was great. Where did you visit
Tokyo and Kyoto?
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (07:19):
But went to the studio ghibli Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
I tried to get into that.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
It's not the theme park thing that existed. It was
before that, right, it was just like the museum tour
thing whatever.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
It is impossible to get into now he did.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
It's part of a tour group. So it was like
a whole kind of took up our day. But it
was and you know, went there, Wes Anderson was walking
around in a white suit.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
He's been trapped there for ten years. Fascinating. Wow, what
a sighting.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
Yeah, yeah, I think it was. I think it was
in the country to promote Isle of Dogs.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Oh that makes sense, and Isle of Dogs there's some
Japanese element in Isle of Dogs. I think. I think
you're right, Yeah, didn't the movie didn't make much of
an effect on that. My apologies to Wes Anderson. Wow,
were there any highlights of the trip to Japan?
Speaker 3 (08:07):
Mostly just some of the like nostalgia, like well, I
don't know that I was in this spot, but of
kind of feeling like, oh, I remember this sort of
vibe or this type of vending machine on the corner.
Little details like that.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
The vending machine culture there is the Yeah for vending
machines not to seem trashy is such an achievement for
a country, and they're everywhere. Yeah, and none of them
seem like junk. They're just kind of like these lovely
little magical things around that you can get all kinds
of I mean, I don't think I bought anything out
of them, but it's just nice to see one in
the wild.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
Yeah. My brother and I used to get these things
called the Gundam cards when I was a kid. I
think I'm sure there was a game you could play,
because they have like hit points or something on it.
I'm sure there was some Pokemon esque thing, but we
didn't understand that, right. We just like these little cards
you could get out of a vending machine that had
like drawings of robots. Robots, yeah and so, and I
still have my big stack of them.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Right. Every child has to go through a stage where
they want a lot of cars. Yeah, summer. Yeah. I
was just back home in Utah and talking to my cousin.
He was in Japan as a kid. Bought a Pokemon card.
In them all it's now worth like twenty thousand dollars.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
Jeez, I gotta check my gun Dam cards.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
I know you should. Actually I had any of these things.
It's what a shame that I'm just bad at investing
in anything, I guess. I mean, wow, but do you
hold onto that card? Is that a bubble that eventually
bursts or does the card just get more and more?
Speaker 3 (09:27):
Probably sell it. If I had a twenty thousand dollars, Oh,
I made my own Gundam card. And then my dad
had like a lamination machine. Oh my god. I think
it was back in maybe this is still in Japan.
Probably was at work here. I was able to laminate.
So I drew a little robot and for his skills,
I said, he has a good sense of humor.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Like a giant mech that.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Yeah, that was kind of a skills parties. Yeah do
you still have the card? I do.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
It's on my fridge right now. Wow, you should try
selling it. Yeah, maybe that was very well.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
Find out that it's your retirement. That's credible. Do you
travel much or is Japan just of no?
Speaker 3 (10:06):
Yeah, I would say travel quite a bit.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
Where have you been recently?
Speaker 3 (10:09):
Let's see, went to Madrid last December?
Speaker 2 (10:13):
How was Madrid? I recently had a friend just tell
me flat out, you won't like going to Spain because
eating there they're because of tap us. It's just you
never really feel like you're getting a full meal.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
Well, I just keep shoving them in my mouth and
I am full. So that wasn't really an issue I encountered.
I mean, I'm pescatarian, so a lot of the ham
eating culture I didn't but found plenty. I mean there's
plenty of good seafood and vegetarian options around. So I
had a great time as a traveler.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Are you like just food focused or are you like
going out and wandering around that kind of Well?
Speaker 3 (10:48):
I like wandering around, but I think food is kind
of a a lot of places I've gone, We've gone
has been a like booking a food walking tour kind
of a thing has been did that in like Mexico
City and Dublin and places you know where you kind
of get to sample different tours just online online, Yeah,
and you just how do you vet them? I should
(11:10):
say my partner Frank Gillespie is the one who's mostly
trust friends. Yeah, yeah, I'm vett.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Yeah, I feel like she probably has good standards. And
it's because now finding food anywhere, because the Internet has
is fundamentally broken. It's so difficult to find real recommendations
to anything.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
Yes, yeah, I don't know how she's googling this, but
I haven't complained. I was putting in the work, Yeah,
just putting in the work.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
On trips. I feel like, especially international trips, there's always
kind of a breaking point for me where there's a
real low point. Do you go through that experience?
Speaker 3 (11:46):
Yes, fully, I mean sometimes we're just like, oh, this
is one day too many, right, and maybe they're still
another day or two to go. This is all we
needed to do right in this city.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
I feel like I've decided that about ten days is
where I cap it off. Eleven or twelve days. I'm like,
oh no, I think that's right. I need to be
home now. This is just I'm enjoying myself, but I'm
just completely depleted and stressing out every moment of it.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
I also get to a city and I'm like, on
day one, I'm like, well, let's go to the I
know I want to hit this museum, and let's not
delay because what if something comes up and we can't, right,
I mean, do the museum or the restaurant or whatever
on like the first twenty four hours.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Yeah, that's a bit. That's actually a huge mistake.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
Yes, And then you kind of get to day three
and you're like, well, I guess if we could just
go wander around this part of town or something, and
sometimes that's great and other times not as much.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Yeah, that uh interesting. I've never really thought about that,
but yeah, I just ruined everything almost from the beginning.
And then I guess that's just a metaphor for my
entire life.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
I was like, I don't want to miss Guernica, so
I gotta go to day one and the PRADU was
not far.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
Do you have any vacation goals, any places you'd like
to go that you haven't been.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
Yes, I've never been to this in hemisphere. Okay, so Australia,
South America, anywhere, South America, Africa, you know, right, have
gotten below.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Refuse to go south of the equation.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
But I'm usually more of like going to a less
of like a resort beach guy, and more of a
like a.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
City, the whole experience of the country kind of thing.
That's more my speed. As well. If I go somewhere
and I'm in just one location the whole time, I
just think, why did I even come here?
Speaker 3 (13:27):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (13:28):
I could have just essentially imagined this at home. Yeah,
I needed to see all kinds of things. And I
don't mind just walking around. Yeah, just especially in Japan,
that's such an easy country to just wander around.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
Sure.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
Yeah. Mostly gets stressed about footwear.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Oh interesting, what's your footwear situation while you're traveling.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
Well, it's it's kind of the like how many shoes
am I going to pack? And then what kind of
you know, what's a good walking shoe?
Speaker 2 (13:52):
First?
Speaker 3 (13:53):
And in the kind of year to year, I'm like,
all right, I'm bringing the Hokahs to Portugal and then
then but I should pack some loafers as well. Loafers.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
What are you doing with loafers on a vacation just
for a nice dinner, I guess.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
So.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Yeah, I mean my bar for dressing on a vacation
is so low at this point because I refuse to
check a bag.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
So I mean, I'm probably doing just untold damage on
my body and my back by only wearing vans everywhere
I go, walking fifteen miles a day in vans. But
I'm gonna die either way.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
Yeah, it's working for you.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Yeah, it's working absolutely fine. But maybe I should I
don't know. I'd like to get to a point when
actually I think I'm at the point I need to be.
No check bags, it's a life ruiner.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
Yeah. I don't really ever check either unless absolutely Forcedill.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Yeah, and the check bag on the way there is
not as big of a deal unless they lose it.
But on the way back, waiting at a baggage carousel,
worse feeling in the world. You're exhausted, you have like
two hours left to get home. I just don't know
why anyone doesn't.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
Yeah, I feel like also when I was a kid,
if we want a vacation, we were checking bags. And
then when I first was an adult and like moved
to LA but then we go home or something. I
was always like, well, you got to check your bag,
Like it seemed like a luxury to bring a bag
onto a plane. And maybe I just had one giant
suitcase right right. I was like, who are these people
that have these like bring a suitcase on the plane.
(15:23):
It was like a status symbolt, And eventually I realized like, oh,
I can get a small suitcase and do that.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Right, Yeah, I guess like when I first moved to
LA and i'd go home, I would always First of all,
I was flying on Southwest, which you know, complicated airline,
but you could check a bag for free, and I
was like kind of using it as a stealth way
to move everything else out of my parents' house that
I haven't already. So it would be like sixty pounds
by the time I got it to the airport, but
(15:49):
it was And now I've got I've moved everything out.
I never need to return. They'll never see me. Forget it,
Mom and Dad. Well, I feel like, you know, as
far as packages go and this kind of thing bringing things,
there's something else I'd like to talk to you about. Yes, Well,
I at least feel like I need to talk to
you about. I was excited to have you today on
(16:12):
the podcast, so excited to be here, and so I said,
no gifts, and so I you know, I assume you
got an email or something. Hopefully you saw the title somewhere,
but I'm now starting to feel like you didn't, because
you showed up holding what is obviously I mean, any
any idiot could look at this and say that's a gift.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
Yes, it's it's pretty stereotypical. Ye, packaging for a gift. Yes,
cartoon character gift.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Yes, in kind of a birthday party wrapping with a
nice little blue bow on top.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
Is this for me? It is? And I can explain,
Oh you can. I bought this gift. I saw something
that I thought would be perfect for you, and I
bought this gift months ago, before I was ever booked
on the show, and this has just become the first
opera unity to give it to you till today. Oh
but I I well, I'll give you the story of
(17:07):
why I bought it months ago. But yes, so, so
it was a gift I've just been meaning to give you.
It's an unfortunate coincidence. I'm giving it to you on
your podcast.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Do this often on the podcast, but I'm willing to
open it.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
Okay, Well, it's a bobblehead of Vince Scully of the Dodgers,
the Dodger's former broadcaster, former announcer.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
Oh so, I mean, I'm really revealing in ignorance. I
just thought this was a baseball player.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
No, no, no, he was there, the announcer.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
I was scrolling through my Instagram, avid follower of yours.
I saw a clap I think you did with Best Show,
and it had extra you behind a mic. Next thing
I scrolled up, I think was an ad for I
think this bobblehead Night at dot Stadium. But it had
a photo of Vin Scully behind a mic, and I thought,
a young Vin Scully and a Ridger Weineger, aren't.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
They.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
I wouldn't say they look the same, but I would.
There are echoes, you know too, especially two photos in
a row behind microphones, right, how fascinating. And I thought,
I'm just gonna get this bobblehead and give it to Bridger,
because both the fates putting these things back to back.
Am I scroll and the algorithm is one of the
greatest broadcasters of our time. Of course that wanted number
(18:33):
one and two mean being number one, of course, Yes,
I agree. I know nothing about this guy. How long
was he doing this for? He he passed away a
couple of years ago. I want to say it was
over fifty years. He was like the announcer when like
Jackie Robinson was on the team, wow, up until and
he was the announcer up until like seven years ago. Maybe, Okay,
so he really did it for a long time, a
(18:55):
sort of legend in the field of sports broadcasting. Maybe
the legend and.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
The legend and murdered, I assume murdered in the end. Yeah,
I guess I hit squad.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
Yeah, yeah enough, Ye, you've got to get the hired
by the Padres. Yeah wow.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
So maybe I should start uh commentating on the Dodgers.
I don't see why I shouldn't. I could kind of,
you know, help you out if you every That's could
be like the launch of the campaign. Yeah, who's doing
it now? Some loser Actually is.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
A guy that's kind of quickly risen in the ranks
and now is announced its like football announces. He's a
very popular guy.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
TikToker. No, probably, Now I do have TikTok the podcast
does just to post clips of this show.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
Here's what I don't have it. And here's my question
that it didn't occur to me until like the last
couple of days. Is it closer to YouTube where like
most people don't make YouTube videos, they will watch YouTube videos.
Or is it close to Instagram where I think most
people who have Instagram use it at least somewhat right,
you know, in post or is there like a is
(20:05):
there a whole world of content creators and then just
mostly other people?
Speaker 2 (20:08):
Just kind such a good question. I mean, the only
things I'm exposed to feel like things that are made
on purpose content rather than like I'm showing you my
kids or whatever. Yeah, but I assume there's got to
be a whole world of that on there that I
just have zero interest in, and they've already figured that out.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
Yeah. I just wonder what percentagy users are making tiktoks?
Speaker 4 (20:30):
Right?
Speaker 2 (20:30):
Right?
Speaker 3 (20:31):
Do you download it because you think you're going to
make videos?
Speaker 2 (20:35):
I mean I think to watch them, probably eighty percent
of the population under twenty five years old is like, Yes,
that's what I'm going to do. I'm going to make
That's what a career is, which makes me sound like
I'm a thousand years old, but I really feel like
that's the only place people feel like they can make
money anymore is making content out of their real job.
Sometimes it'll be like, oh, I'm an electrician, but now
(20:56):
I'm the fun electrician or whatever. So but I assume
that there are probably just annoying people doing annoying stupid things.
Well I don't assume. I definitely have seen that, but
more unprofessionally. Yes, yes, where like, of course you're not
going to make it, you are bad at what you're doing.
But I wonder if there are people like bothering their
family to just like it's like the family TikTok.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
Following each other.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
Good.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
I guess I should both something right.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
Which seems like the most stressful thing I could possibly imagine.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
Yeah, I was never very good at Twitter, uhlex.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
And of course thank you, we'll beep Twitter, and uh.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
It did stress me. I was like, okay, I don't
just naturally come up with a tweet, right, really, I
just like, sweat over is this a funny little sentence?
And you know, maybe made like eighteen ever.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
So well, it was very Yeah, it was a stressful
place to be. I think if you wanted to work
in comedy, if you actually wanted to do it, like
you're like, people are looking at me, and I can't
embarrass myself this, I need to be good at this.
But then you see people who don't have that stress,
who're just like tweeting every thought they've ever had, and
that's just not how I operate.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
Know, I mean, that was what I was like jealous of.
I'd see people that just kind of could like flow
with it, and boy, I wish I had that that
sort of heltered kind of taken totally.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
But how are those people in the real world? Are
they annoying?
Speaker 3 (22:17):
Some of them are comedians and they figured it out,
you know, they locked in.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
And they're confident in themselves on some level.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
Of me constantly like no one cares about my take
on this, or like I'm just repeating something I have
nothing new to add to the conversation, which you know
still is a like he would just looking at like
should I post no one look at me.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
To That's how I feel where I'm like, I'll get
on any of these things and everyone I know has
already posted about it one hundred times. I'm like, what
am I doing?
Speaker 3 (22:46):
I feel like I have like a you don't have
anything to add to the conversation. Someone's already said something.
You don't need to repeat it, you know. But that's
I'm sure, a horrible attitude in many regards. And it
makes sense in like a writer's room or something, shouldn't
be applied to every aspect of life.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
Yeah, but that is how I was on Twitter most
of my experiences, Like, well, I'm just not going to
tweet about the oscars. I don't care. Everyone else is
already doing that all the time. Yes, so I'll just
take the night off. But some people just love making
quips about the thing that everyone's making.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
Quips're not like me, Well, let me make sure no
one else has made this joke already, Like yeah, I'll
just be the fortieth person to make this joke.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
Maybe if I started drinking, that would help, I don't know,
loosen me up a little bit. I need to drink
to get on Instagram.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
Yeah I should. I should have brought your liquor.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
That's only happened once on this podcast, and I had
a little sip and got very drunk on a lease
was scared. Everyone was like got to get him in
the house. It was dangerous. But maybe I will start
drinking to be online. I think that that's not the
worst idea at this point.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
It makes sense.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
Oh.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
The other thing I want to say about this body
well yeah, barely talked about is if you don't like it.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
But where's your receipt?
Speaker 3 (24:03):
But you do want another bobblehead you in any night
that there is a bobblehead night at Dodger Stadium, there
will be people outside the stadium as you're leaving who
are like trade bobbleheads and interesting because they want whatever
the new one is. I'll probably have one from a
previous game that maybe isn't you know, and in demand
value right, and so you can maybe just swap it.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
So there's a whole culture of that going on. Oh yeah,
there's something for everybody.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
Yeah, you can probably go trade this for like a
tyler Glass now bobble.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
I was going to say tyler glass. Now I've been
looking for one of his bobbles.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
Yeah, yeah, Wow.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
People are If there's a plastic doll of it, people
are after it and making their life about it. Yes, point,
which good for them. It hasn't happened to me yet,
but it could. Yeah, this could be the start of something.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
Yeah, I'd get the bridge of bobble Head.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
I would love. I would love for my life to
take a turn where people are like, remember when he
got that bobblehead and then he was just only buying
baseball bobble that's the specific. I've never been to a
Dodgers game. The traffic, cologne terrifying.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
I live about a mile from the stadium, so I
will walk there. Oh, that's a healthy happen and it's
a little Yeah. How long is.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
A baseball game?
Speaker 3 (25:13):
About two and a half hours? Okay, maybe they made
a few rule changes a few years ago to shortened games.
Oh and it worked, and so.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
Some editing is good for there.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
They're kind of bringing down the how long.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
Were they getting over?
Speaker 3 (25:25):
Three oh three?
Speaker 5 (25:26):
Is?
Speaker 2 (25:27):
No one respects anyone's time anymore.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
I know.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
It's just everyone thinks the thing they're doing should just
go on forever.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
Yeah, it is the amount. People are like get mad
though about like The Brutalists runtime or any movie that
has a long run time, and then they're like, well,
the Dodgers play one hundred and sixty two Brutalists.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
A year, you know, like you know, everything should be
measured and Brutalists. Yeah, I've only seen the first half
of The Brutalist because I'll only see the first half
of a three hour movie, So I don't know what happens.
But I had a lovely time and left.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
Oh but you missed Felicity Jones.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
Oh my god, I've got to get back to the
I'm getting in the car now.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
Yeah, I'll try to find a seventy billimeter projector.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
I should hop on. I need to finish Bows Afraid
in that or at least skim through. And I had
nothing against the movies except for the fact they were
too long.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
I've done a few of the like eight hour Hungarian
movie you have, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
And you sat through the whole thing? Were you on adderall?
Speaker 3 (26:24):
No? No, well, I do think is it santane? It
spelled satan tango? Okay, so tend to go. I don't know.
I think I broke that one up.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
But how long is that one?
Speaker 3 (26:35):
That's that's the one that's six and a half to
eight hours somewhere in the cara. I can't remember exactly.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
What's going on in six and a half slow cinema.
I think they call it, and were you at.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
Home while watching? I was at home?
Speaker 5 (26:47):
Yeah, any seven hours and thirty minutes a perfect runtime.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
My new rule is I'll walk out of a three
hour movie halfway through, or I'll watch a full seven
and a half hour movie. Yeah, that's and a half hours.
I'll be in the theater because you've basically moved in.
Yeah wait, but did you watch this at home?
Speaker 3 (27:05):
At home? But I have a projector, and you know,
I try to make a nice, a nice evening.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
Of it, right, do you pause and like get dinner?
Speaker 3 (27:13):
Yeah? Okay, yeah? Or or like yeah, maybe even split
it up into a couple of nights.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
Yeah, because I feel like sitting through that entire thing
is a uti waiting to happen. Just you got a
bathroom breaks? I mean, that's worse than a flight.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
I'm taking some breaks, but I try to also get
you know, yeah, like I mean, how do you get?
Speaker 2 (27:33):
Wow, that's amazing. My attention span really had. I feel
like I used to have a really good one and
has just been destroyed, absolutely destroyed. I have to go
to a movie theater in order to watch a movie
because at home so difficult to get away from my
stupid phone, and a movie has to be so engaging,
and so I can't imagine what seven and a half hours.
(27:53):
I guess that would be like a goal, like something
to rewire my brain.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
Yeah, I mean I feel like that with TV more
than film. I feel like this film will be done
in a couple of hours, right, so I can sit
and watch it and even if I'm don't like it,
if there's something I'm taking from it that, you know,
I'll appreciate that. And a TV show where I just
watch an episode and I'm like, I got to really
dedicate like seven more hours of my life to just
(28:18):
this season alone. Especially it's one way you should watch
the show. And there's four seasons, and that's where I
not the four seasons, but you know, also the commitment
of like restart starting a new episode, starting an episode,
I don't know. That's that's where I have a harder
time people.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
Who are really able to like binge a show like
in a couple of nights. That doesn't make any sense
to me.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
Yeah, I'll watch like four shows maybe a year, right,
or four seasons of a show.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
Yeah, I like I started, we started in this home
watching a Little House on the Prayer.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
I've been I've been keeping up on the pod.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
But like I started talking about it, and I think
I feel like listeners have absolutely lapped me there.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
Like I just started season three.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
We just finished season one because we're watching one episode
a night, so it takes and what like not even
every night of the week. It's like two a week,
and other people are watching four a night and just
blowing through this thing. I don't think I'll be a lot.
I don't think i'll live long enough to watch the
whole season. I see.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
I really like and Or. Oh I love and Or,
but I'm still I have three episodes left and I
love it. But it is almost like, well, let me
make sure I've set aside the night and I'm not
gonna get distracted, and I'm watching a new to me
and Or right, and it really takes my time.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
So the first season of Andor I blew through, and
then there was such a long break that I forgot everything.
And so season two was a little bit me like
going in and out a bit because it's like, what's
going on? Who is this person? I need to watch
it all in a row.
Speaker 3 (29:45):
I actually didn't watch any of it until this year,
So what an experience. So I've been going straight through
the twenty four episodes or whatever.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
Are you a Star Wars person?
Speaker 3 (29:53):
Yes, I mean for sure I am in terms like
when I was a kid, right and all of that.
I haven't really kept up on the TV shows. I
think this is the only one. How could you possibly?
Speaker 2 (30:04):
Yeah, there are a thousand episodes of all of those
different shows.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
Yeah, yeah, and I know people love like the animated
Clone Wars, and I've watched some of that as well,
just see what it was all about. But you know, again,
any animated I tried to watch like Demon Slayer one time, and.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
Oh, sure, how many episodes of that?
Speaker 3 (30:20):
Was probably? Like so that was pretty good. I got
like four in. I'm like, I just don't think I'm
gonna make it through all of them.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
Yeah, there's a different brain of person who can watch
five hundred episodes of an animated show like just in
a few months. For me, that's a lifetime goal. Yes,
and I will fail at it. I will absolutely fail
at it.
Speaker 3 (30:38):
Eventually get through the Flintstones.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
I'm working so hard. I need to see if they
stick together, the family doesn't break up.
Speaker 3 (30:46):
I don't have the kids yet.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
Yeah, I need to see them get to the modern car. Yeah,
that's who was the Flintstones four? Was that for children
or adults?
Speaker 3 (30:57):
I mean, I guess family entertainment for both. They like,
we're kind of doing the Honeymooners, but it's a cartoon,
so kids will want to watch, but it's on in
prime time.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
I think, Yeah, it kind of doesn't make sense to
me as a TV show anymore because it's not like
Simpson's Level for mostly for adults, but it's not really
for chure. I mean, like the Dinosaurs are for children.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
I'm almost positive, Well, okay, that's that was way too strong.
I have a vague suspicion I a memory that there's
an episode of Flintstones where they're trying to like maybe
maybe they didn't maybe they adopted the kids. I forget
what it is, but they're like not gonna Barney and
Betty are not gonna be able to adopt bam bam
(31:38):
or something. And Barney goes to he goes to a
bridge and like ties a boulder to his waiste and
he's gonna like commit suicide. I'm like, is that? Did
that really happen? On the flint Stows? There is this
like a dream I had when I was seven and
then like h taking it as cannon for years.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
Wow. What a dark episode of the Flintstone. Wow you
think he would have I mean, I guess he wasn't
ready to be a father.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
No, or he was sad that they weren't gonna he
wasn't going to get to be one.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
Yeah, but I mean, if if it's that big of
an issue, he's got some things to work to it
before he adopts the kid. Yeah, and the adoption agency
saw that you're kind of a little too. Yeah, sir,
work on yourself a little bit. But if you're gonna
throw yourself off a bridge because your adoption got declined,
they don't get declined denied option, adoption denied.
Speaker 3 (32:28):
They ran the car to it got declined. Sorry, paperwork,
we needed a file, just to wow.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
I wonder if they ever got the kid.
Speaker 3 (32:37):
I would bet by the end of the episode they did.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
I would hope. So yeah, that's kind of how TV
used to work. The problem was usually solved. There is
an episode of Little House on the Prairie where Laura
goes to meet God at the top of a mountain.
Just a surreal thing to watch. And then she gets
to the bottom of the mountain at the end and
having not met God, but maybe there's a secret guy
living in the woods who maybe it's very honestly kind
(32:59):
of scary.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
That's interesting.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
Like the sort of thing I was watching was like,
if I was watching this as a kid, I would
be terrified. She just meets this weird guy in the
mountains who may or may not be a spiritual or yeah,
she might be hallucinating. I thought she ate something in
the woods kind of off camera. What a show, What
an experience. The reboots got a lot to live up too.
Speaker 3 (33:21):
Yeah, I was. We were not a little house on
the prairie. It's probably because two boys, me and my brother, oh,
I feel like, and also living in Japan, we had
one TV channel, oh from like eight to ten, so
we didn't get what was airing on that there was
like the premost slot was Sunday at eight I think
it was eight, and half the year was Cosby Show
(33:42):
and half the year it was Roseanne.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
Okay, interesting two people who have gone on to do
so many.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
Exactly, we didn't get Simpsons there. They would just you know,
sometimes show a baseball game or something on right. That
was probably tape certainly tape delayed.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
That sounds so refreshing to just not have an option
of what to watch on TV.
Speaker 3 (34:02):
Yeah, now you could flip to the Japanese channels as well,
But then you write some of the crazy game shows.
Someone's falling in water. That's fun, but we you know,
you can not understand it.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
Right, What did you watch that documentary about the Japanese
game show about the guy who's like, what happened? They
just kept him in an apartment.
Speaker 3 (34:18):
For really, I know what you're talking about, but I
haven't watched.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
That at least. Is that sound familiar to you? It
was brutal to watch. They basically drove this man out
of his mind.
Speaker 3 (34:26):
Yeah, in like solitary confinements. Right, It's really a scary
thing to watch.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
But the country was having a ball watching him just
kind of break down. Yeah, I think we need to
get back to only having two TV shows. We need
to get back to your childhood.
Speaker 3 (34:42):
Experience having armed forces network.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
The armed forces need to take over all in some ways,
I believe that. In some ways, I think that may
be a dark way for the country.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
Occasionally get like a Baltimore Orioles game, you know, Wow,
did you have a favorite between Roseanne and Cosby?
Speaker 2 (35:02):
This will reflect on you as a person.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
Hmmm, that's a good question. I was a big fan
of both. I don't. It really was kind of like
one would end. You'd be like, great, now Roseanne's coming
next week. Then that would end, You're like Lord Cosby
showed you know at the time, classic shows.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
Yeah, nobody knew anything, knew the better you knew, the
wiser is that?
Speaker 3 (35:24):
What do you say?
Speaker 2 (35:24):
I don't know. But and one had Lori Metcalf. That's true,
So I don't know anything with Lori Metcalf. I'm on board.
Although I've never watched it. I think I've seen one
episode of Roseanne won half well the commercial for the Conners.
But I have seen Getting On? Have you seen Getting On?
Speaker 3 (35:40):
I haven't seen Getting On. I've seen her in a
couple of plays though.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
But they were phenomenal. Oh yeah, she's so good.
Speaker 3 (35:45):
Yeah, she's amazing.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
Well, is there anything left to say about Vin Scully?
I mean, he's dead, so I don't have to push
him out of the way.
Speaker 3 (35:52):
No, I would say, you know, if you want to
sell that, keep it in the box, put it on eBay.
I don't think you're going to get a huge price,
but I wouldn't treat it too much like a collector's
eye might think. You can have to do with.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
The gas station seventy six.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
Do you see that that's just a sponsor. I'm sure
they paid. They paid for the bobblehead, yeah, or the
the offset some of the costs by saying, you know,
will sell use some ad space on.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
The side of the box is behind this.
Speaker 3 (36:20):
They did a thing at the dog I went to
the Dodger game on Saturday, huh, and they it was
like a full moon and they had a shot at
the beautiful full moon and then they like cross faded
to the seventy six orb that like it's just in
the outfield. Is just you know, as a sponsored thing.
That sort of weird, Like that's how it should be.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
We shouldn't have to look at the moon. We should
have to look at.
Speaker 3 (36:42):
The circle the moon shot game sponsored collab with the moon.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
Yeah, they should be putting ads on the moon. We're
not far from that, I imagine. I wonder how you would
do that. Have you driven past the Tesla Diner?
Speaker 3 (36:56):
No, where where is somebody?
Speaker 2 (36:57):
Well, I don't want to, I don't want to encourage
tear or or shopping at this thing. But it's all
It's somewhere in Hollywood, one of the most hideous buildings
ever created.
Speaker 3 (37:09):
I just I've heard it exists, but I.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
Just looking over at it, it was goober city. Everybody there
was just a loser. They were playing the matrix. It's
just everything you could possibly imagine it is. And I
wonder what they'll make of it when they close it.
What could that possive. I mean, it's not big, it's.
Speaker 3 (37:27):
Also a dealership or it's just like it's just.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
A diner, and I think you can charge your tesla there.
But what does that become after it goes out of
business is the big question. Can't be a Halloween superstore,
can't be a ross. Those are kind of the two
things that move in.
Speaker 3 (37:45):
Maybe a Kona charge that's not a bad.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
A star they do turn these gas stations into Starbucks.
M oh, I'm curious to see. It's one of the
ugliest things I've ever seen. And that's such a sad
thing that that exists. But what do you make of
the bumper stickers that say I bought this before Elon
went crazy?
Speaker 3 (38:07):
I think it would be funny to put that on
your car if it's not a tesla.
Speaker 2 (38:10):
Oh yeah, that's I thought of that often. Actually, I wait, I.
Speaker 3 (38:15):
Do an Elon Musk story. But I don't want to
be too You can cut this out if it's boring.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
But no, I mean I'm intrigued already.
Speaker 3 (38:22):
Okay, and I you're married. So when I was a
young writer, starting out youngish, my friend Harriswittles was writing
on Parks and rec with Mike Scully, who I had
not ever met, and he and Harris said, hey, Mike
Scully was saying, the Simpsons are looking for more writers.
(38:44):
Mind if I give your script? He had read like
a script script I'd written. He said, mind if I
give Mike Scully your script to pass along to the Simpsons.
I said, please, that'd be exciting. Uh he did. I
got called in for an interview with al Jean growing
in and I met with Al Jean and I just
had to bring a few ideas and stuff, like I
(39:04):
remember this is how Fargo long ago. This was like.
One of my ideas was like, there's this thing called
the Hunger Games and they're going to make it into movies,
and like Bart and Lisa could be in a Hunger
Games type thing and you get ahead of like the
movies I think are going to be a big kind
of Anyway, the meeting was great, but never heard anything.
A year and a half later I got an email
from Algene and he said, hey, would you want to
(39:24):
write a freelance script? We would need it in two weeks.
You know, but you write an episode of The Simpsons, right.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
So of course now they were doing that that recently,
I mean in the last fifteen years.
Speaker 3 (39:32):
Yeah, they really, because they used to be in w
GA if you had a certain episode order, you had
to spread the wealth zone have like freelance writers.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
Interesting, I'm not sure who enforced.
Speaker 3 (39:42):
That if you didn't, but anyway, sometimes I was doing
it still. So he was like, great, we have these
story notes and would you want so so we just
have a few notes and you'll just need to turn
in a draft like two weeks. I said, I'd love
to do this, obviously be an honor and it was.
And don't get me wrong, and they went, okay, you
know who Elon Musk is and I didn't, and I sure,
(40:03):
and of course I do. I googled it was like
this again, like pre Tesla at least Tesla in the US,
and it was I googled it and it was a
PayPal billionaire who's into clean energy, and I had never
heard of him, and I went, okay, sure, yeah, and
they sent me the notes. It was like two pages
of notes, and it was basically a story that's like
Elon Musk comes to Springfield and he mister Burns gets
(40:26):
upset with him. That like gets upset the Springfield loves
an energy billionaire and hates him. And he was going
to be the guest voice, you know, playing himself. And
so I wrote this draft. I had never really written,
apart from a specscript like a half hour narrative. I
think I'd written on one season of comedy Bang Bang
ok point anyway, wrote the draft went to like a
(40:46):
table read a year later. The script's totally different from
what I wrote, But that's part for the courus of
Simpsons known to expect that Elon Musk's at the table reading,
you know, does it signs the script and stuff? Again,
this is all like maybe now Tesla's around, but just
kind of before I, like I even thought of him
as like a public figure. Did The episode comes out
and airs now years later and I, you know, Simpsons
(41:10):
was like my ship. I love Simpsons growing up. It
like shaped my sense of humor. I was so honored
to touch it in some way. And like years later
it is like, this is the worst episode ever of Simpsons.
If they took the Michael jacksone off the air, they
should take this one off the air. This is like
propaganda for like who is Neil Campbell? Like who wrote this?
(41:30):
Like it wasn't even right around the Simpsons And he
comes in and writes this like puff piece for you
lot of us.
Speaker 2 (41:35):
It's kind of Ah, that was a nightmare.
Speaker 3 (41:37):
Yeah, So so one episode of the Simpsons credited to
my name, and uh, and it certainly has its detractors.
Speaker 2 (41:46):
Oh that's really a shame. What an absolutely yeah, it's like.
Speaker 3 (41:50):
A monkey's paulk any any episode of them, any episode?
Speaker 2 (41:55):
Okay, Oh that's so tough.
Speaker 3 (41:57):
You know, no one knew at the time, I guess,
but uh and I was still very grateful too, But wow,
kind of could it have exploded it a worse way
for me?
Speaker 2 (42:08):
Who do you think is a worse energy person, mister
Burns or Elon musk.
Speaker 3 (42:13):
Well, In the world of the Simpsons, there's barely Anything
wrong with Elon Musk in Springfield is Burns.
Speaker 2 (42:20):
But I mean, I will say this for mister Burns
compared to Elon Musk, mister Burns is funny. Yes, that's
Elon Musk. That's the one thing he wants to be
and never will be. Yes, never, No, of course, there's
no one has ever tried harder to be funny and
never been funny. It's amazing to watch that man fail
at being funny. One of the most annoying people alive.
(42:41):
Elon don't reach out? Well, what a story. Oh God,
I'm sorry. You're just gonna live with that curse forever.
Speaker 3 (42:48):
Life takes some funny twists and turns. Well.
Speaker 2 (42:51):
I think we should play a game. We're gonna play
a game called Gift Master. But I need a number
between one and ten from you.
Speaker 3 (42:57):
Eight.
Speaker 2 (42:58):
Okay. I have to do some light calculating to get
our game pieces, so that right now you can recommend, promote,
do whatever you want.
Speaker 3 (43:03):
I'll be right about okay. What I would promote is
the TV show Digman. I co created it with Andy
Samberg and have been running it. Our first season is
on Paramount Plus our second season at the time we're
doing this interview is airing on Comedy Central and will
eventually be on Paramount Plus. I say with a good
amount of confidence, But there's just been a huge merger
(43:23):
that's happened. I don't really know when it will be
on Paramount Plus, and I don't know what the future
of all these things are. But anyway, I'm quite proud
of it second season, very excited for people to see.
So hopefully you'll eventually be able to find it gorgeous.
Speaker 2 (43:39):
Yeah, everybody go watch Digman hopefully. Ah, these mergers, let's
get back again at least the two just two streaming
networks or something. Yeah, I need to there are too
many subscriptions at this point.
Speaker 3 (43:52):
Yeah, it's just and with this stuff or people like
when's it going to stream? Like I would have had
a clear answer.
Speaker 2 (44:00):
It's crazy that you don't know if anyone in the
world should know when the show is going to be
on something.
Speaker 3 (44:04):
I read when it should, which is like February of
next year. Sure, but I don't know that that is.
Things won't change, could change for the better and come
out right it comes sooner or could come?
Speaker 2 (44:17):
Never was wow, Paramount because now there it's the sky Dance. Yes,
we love the name sky Dance, so beautiful, so evocative.
I don't know what it is or where it came from,
but good for everyone for merging and whatever. Okay, let's
play gift masks. Thank you. I'm going to name three
celebrities and then I'm going to name three gifts and
(44:39):
you're going to tell me which gift you would give
which celebrity and why.
Speaker 3 (44:42):
All right, so that makes perfect sense, makes perfect sense.
Speaker 2 (44:45):
Okay, Today you'll be giving the gifts to number one
Sam Bankman Freed kind of a polarizing figure, sure, Number
two post malone, Number three Christine Baranski. And these are
the gifts you'll be giving. Number one is a family
of four, less traditional, more of an experience, well, an
(45:05):
experience and objects if you imagine people as objects. Number
two a USB chord, which is I need to say
less this is your game. And number three is Anderson Cooper.
Speaker 3 (45:19):
Mmmm. I'm going to give the USB cord to Christine Baranski, okay,
because I feel not to pass make a judgment that that.
But like me, I still have my iPhone needs the
like lightning cable. Sure, so I'm not fully USB c's right,
(45:40):
So I would imagine Christine Baranski might have some need
for you USB and not USB C.
Speaker 2 (45:45):
She doesn't strike me as a tech heads.
Speaker 3 (45:48):
Yeah, and I feel like post Malone and Sam Bankman
Freed haven't used just a standard US They've gone to
USBC everything right right for a while, so they would
have no U for it. I feel like she probably
has a few devices that could use it.
Speaker 2 (46:04):
Out of these three people, I bet she's the one
that has a junk drawer. You can throw that in. Yeah,
those other two guys don't have I don't think post Alone.
I think he's a vagabond. He just is all over
the country at all times.
Speaker 3 (46:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (46:16):
And Sam Bankman Fried probably lives in some sort of chamber.
Speaker 3 (46:20):
Yeah. Now I'm tempted to say I think Postalone feels
like a guy who's kind of a little bit like
has the values of like family, like would want a
family and and say make me Freed. I'd think once publicity,
once coverage, so I can imagine, but I'm gonna flip
it and then say, I think Sam Bankman Free should
have the family to maybe sort of see some other
(46:43):
priorities in maybe he'll realize open his eyes his eyes
a bit.
Speaker 2 (46:49):
The organic world.
Speaker 3 (46:50):
Yes, yes, right, beautifully put and then it's sort of
by default leaves Anderson Cooper to postalone. But you know,
maybe as an artist, Cooper can help postmon gonna get
past the first thought on something, dig deep with an interview,
have him kind of explore.
Speaker 2 (47:10):
And what an odd couple situations? Yeah, a lot A
pair in a one bedroom apartment. They're getting on each
other's nerves. Anderson is so tidy. Post Malone is, you know,
beer everywhere, just an absolute slob. I know, so little thoughts.
Speaker 3 (47:26):
The same here. I try to think of the name
of a But I.
Speaker 2 (47:30):
Feel like Anderson Cooper would help him clean up his act,
and post Malone might help Anderson loosen up a bit.
Speaker 3 (47:36):
Yeah, that's true. Could be. I mean they could do
an odd couple revival.
Speaker 2 (47:40):
Yes, they should. They should do one on Broadway.
Speaker 3 (47:42):
On Broadway.
Speaker 2 (47:43):
I think that's what the world needs.
Speaker 3 (47:44):
Yeah, get a Oh what's his name? Who directed the Oh?
Never mind Steven Spielberg. Oh we know he directed The Graduate.
Speaker 2 (47:57):
Oh what is that guy's name directed? Uh, he's directed
so many great movies.
Speaker 3 (48:03):
And I listened to the entire audio book of his
Holy Mike Nichols, Mike Lee, and I knew that was
the another great direct great director for more recent and
I just couldn't get Lee out of my head and
replace it with me. Oh yeah, anyway, you just yeah,
take his old blocking.
Speaker 2 (48:18):
Notes to do right? You bring him back from the dead.
Speaker 3 (48:22):
Why not? Or get his daughter in love Rachel Nichols
to direct.
Speaker 2 (48:25):
Rachel Nichols get.
Speaker 3 (48:27):
Is she really? That's right?
Speaker 2 (48:29):
Wow, Rachel, let's team up. Let's make me the next
Vin Scully. She should do a puff piece on me.
Speaker 3 (48:34):
That'd be good.
Speaker 2 (48:35):
Yeah, that's probably the next natural step for her career.
Speaker 3 (48:39):
I give the puffy requested.
Speaker 2 (48:43):
I need to hire.
Speaker 3 (48:44):
It hurts the journalists feelings, and you refer to it
that lie.
Speaker 2 (48:50):
I need to get some sort of pr team to
get me in Sports Illustrated or something I should be on.
I should be their next swimsuit model.
Speaker 3 (48:57):
I agree.
Speaker 2 (48:57):
Why not Martha was I'm a Martha Stewart type. People
are clamoring for me to be on the cover of SI.
Speaker 3 (49:05):
Yeah, or do you do you know when they would
do this sort of sexy it's actually just painted on.
Speaker 2 (49:09):
Oh yeah, it's time for the painting on. Yeah, yes,
And then Access Hollywood can do a whole piece on that.
Speaker 3 (49:16):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (49:17):
Wow, I'll be all over the place. Rachel. This starts
with you. I don't know, it's such a loose connection.
Speaker 3 (49:24):
Yeah, we said the name of your deceased father in law.
Why would you not your back.
Speaker 2 (49:30):
Is against the one. Okay, well, I feel like we
should get to the final segment of the podcast. This
is called I said no emails. People are writing in
and hopefully sending voice notes to I said no gifts
at gmail dot com. We help me answer a question
you would love Okay, this is let's see here High Bridger.
They don't even mention you, which is so rude. So
(49:52):
let's say Hybridger and Neil, I love the show and
wondered if you would help me with a problem. My
wife thinks she hates Mexican food, but whenever I convince
her to eat it, she actually loves it. How do
I get her to understand she actually loves Mexican food.
I can't think of a Mexican food she doesn't like,
like she absolutely loves Nacho's and she always eats half
my torta when I order one, despite being gluten sensitive.
(50:15):
Thanks for your help, and that's from James.
Speaker 3 (50:17):
Interesting what do.
Speaker 2 (50:19):
We Okay, let's think about this email for a minute.
Is the wife racist? Maybe?
Speaker 3 (50:25):
Could it be?
Speaker 2 (50:26):
So that's just a possibility. We'll put that out, but
we'll put it aside. Truly the first thing that comes
to mind for me. Okay. And also it sounds like
he wants us to help gaslight his wife mm hmm
in some ways. But he's saying she's gluten sensitive. I
actually am seeing a real problem here. This woman's eating bread.
(50:48):
It's making her sick, and so of course she can't
like the cuisine because she doesn't realize that it's causing
all of these whatever issues happen in her stomach.
Speaker 3 (50:58):
Well, there certainly is our tortilla versus a corn tortilla
is going to be a difference for someone with gluten sensitivity.
Speaker 2 (51:05):
Yes, you have to go with the corn tortilla. You
have to go with it. Well, they're just corn chips.
But my sister is celiac and so there's I like
for actually getting into the allergen issues here. Maybe the
wife is getting cross contamination on the nachos, or maybe
the cheese sauce has wheat allergens in it. James is
(51:26):
not thinking about his wife's health. All he's thinking about
is his favorite cuisine.
Speaker 3 (51:31):
No, and this could be a you know, a bad
situation where he's trying to.
Speaker 2 (51:36):
Family. Yeah, he's trying to poison her. This is kind
of like putting poison in the soup for six weeks.
Speaker 3 (51:44):
Yes, yeah, we got a phantom thread kind of operation happening.
Speaker 2 (51:48):
But honey, you love Mexican food, I'll bring it to
you in bed.
Speaker 3 (51:53):
I also would it seemed like a lot of it,
And maybe I was just inferring this. It was perhaps
takeout orders. I wonder if you were like, Hey, I've
planned a big, fun night out and it's to this
really nice restaurant. It happens to be Mexican cuisine, right,
but we're I'm taking you out for a lovely evening.
Is that going to help mark it? Yeah? And you'll
(52:15):
see the whole menu of options and go, oh, well,
this wouldn't affect my sensitivity and all that.
Speaker 2 (52:21):
And if they're let's say, if they're getting take out
and she's getting nachos. First of all, she's bad at
ordering things that does not travel. That's a soggy chip.
I feel like I'm frustrated with the wife. Let's say
it Mexican food is for everyone loves it. It's a
fun food.
Speaker 3 (52:36):
Yeah, what's the problem. What's wrong with this person?
Speaker 2 (52:38):
I know?
Speaker 3 (52:38):
And we just have to imagine James is a sort
of stereotypical impact husband.
Speaker 2 (52:46):
The wife is always the issue, This bore wife. She's
always nagging, nagging about how she doesn't.
Speaker 3 (52:53):
Like Mexican while he's, you know, probably a firefighter.
Speaker 2 (52:57):
He's putting his life on the line every We've got
a first responder who loves Mexican food and a wife
who won't let him eat.
Speaker 3 (53:05):
Is not honey, I brought him some nacho. Sorry, I'm late.
There was a foe alarmed fire.
Speaker 2 (53:10):
Let me just clean off this ash, clear my lung.
Speaker 3 (53:12):
Well, it's not bonbonds. You're right, I'm sorry, dear.
Speaker 2 (53:20):
Well, we solved it. I think we ultimately solved it.
Speaker 3 (53:23):
We kind of went from accusing him of big a
murderer too, thinking that he's actually the most wonderful man
on her. Vote for James.
Speaker 2 (53:33):
Vote for James to get a divorce from this lady,
and hopefully it's a wake up call for her. Yes,
she doesn't know what she's got and it's time for
her to tune into this she's not even a listener
of the podcast.
Speaker 3 (53:44):
Apparently not.
Speaker 2 (53:45):
This lady sucks right.
Speaker 3 (53:46):
If she hears this, then is up? God?
Speaker 2 (53:49):
Wow, you know some people, some people's wives. That's what
I'll say. We answered the question more than perfectly. I
think so we ruined marriage. But we may have created
a new fan of Mexican food. Maybe that's the real
hope there.
Speaker 3 (54:07):
We can always use one more, Yeah, we could always
use one more.
Speaker 2 (54:11):
And now I've got this gorgeous not only bubblehead, but
now career goal. Yes, and it's one of the rare
career goals where I don't have to kill someone to
get to where I need to be. And I feel
great about it. I feel like Dodgers fans will embrace me.
Speaker 3 (54:26):
Hey, I do you do?
Speaker 2 (54:27):
It starts with one person, one brave person. Someone needed
to speak up, and you did, and so I'll be
in the stadium shortly, I imagine, let's do it. Who
could ask for more? Well, I've had such a wonderful time.
Speaker 3 (54:41):
Yeah, thank you so much for having me here, an
honor to be here. I'm a big fan.
Speaker 2 (54:44):
Oh you're very sweet show, thank you for being here
and listener the podcast is screeching to a halt. I'm
slamming on the brakes. Hopefully we all have our seat
belts on and we'll walk away alive. But it is over.
I love you, goodbye, I said, No Gifts is an
(55:04):
exactly right production. Our senior producer is on Alisa Nelson,
and our episodes are beautifully mixed by Ben Holliday. The
theme song is by miracle Worker Amy Mann, and we
couldn't do it without our booker, Patrick Cottner. You must
follow the show on Instagram at I said no Gifts,
that's where you're going to see pictures of all these
wonderful gifts I'm getting. And don't you want to see
(55:27):
the gifts line?
Speaker 1 (55:29):
Why did you hear? Gonta man? Myself perfectly clear? But
you're a guest to me. You gotta come to me empty,
And I said.
Speaker 4 (55:46):
No guests, your presences, presents, and I already too much stuff.
So how do you dare to surbey me?
Speaker 1 (56:00):
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I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace. I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!
Crime Junkie
Does hearing about a true crime case always leave you scouring the internet for the truth behind the story? Dive into your next mystery with Crime Junkie. Every Monday, join your host Ashley Flowers as she unravels all the details of infamous and underreported true crime cases with her best friend Brit Prawat. From cold cases to missing persons and heroes in our community who seek justice, Crime Junkie is your destination for theories and stories you won’t hear anywhere else. Whether you're a seasoned true crime enthusiast or new to the genre, you'll find yourself on the edge of your seat awaiting a new episode every Monday. If you can never get enough true crime... Congratulations, you’ve found your people. Follow to join a community of Crime Junkies! Crime Junkie is presented by audiochuck Media Company.
Cardiac Cowboys
The heart was always off-limits to surgeons. Cutting into it spelled instant death for the patient. That is, until a ragtag group of doctors scattered across the Midwest and Texas decided to throw out the rule book. Working in makeshift laboratories and home garages, using medical devices made from scavenged machine parts and beer tubes, these men and women invented the field of open heart surgery. Odds are, someone you know is alive because of them. So why has history left them behind? Presented by Chris Pine, CARDIAC COWBOYS tells the gripping true story behind the birth of heart surgery, and the young, Greatest Generation doctors who made it happen. For years, they competed and feuded, racing to be the first, the best, and the most prolific. Some appeared on the cover of Time Magazine, operated on kings and advised presidents. Others ended up disgraced, penniless, and convicted of felonies. Together, they ignited a revolution in medicine, and changed the world.