February 17, 2025 • 30 mins
It's Fox Sports Radio's official fantasy football podcast! This unique edition of the show features segments from The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon in which Jason and Mike went back and forth on a few big offseason storylines. What exactly did Aaron Rodgers give the Jets these past two years? Is it time for him to retire or should he come back for one last year on a new team? Might it be smart for the Jaguars to start listening to offers for Trevor Lawrence? Plus, a rare basketball discussion as Jason gives his take on who the biggest star in the sport is right now... it may not be who you think.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Big news in the NFL today. We knew this was coming.
The New York Jets have said goodbye to Aaron Rodgers.
Alex Tyser, do you have some sad? Aaron Rodgers? Goodbye? Music?
You get some? Get some sad?
Speaker 2 (00:13):
I mean I have one?
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Did clip?
Speaker 2 (00:14):
We could play whoa whoa.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
Whoa, whoa whoa?
Speaker 3 (00:18):
He busted out the musket. It was a special occasion.
You said, music, and you're here. You're itchy trigger finger
over there, music man music.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Wow. He hasn't been cut yet. A decision has not
been made. The Jets don't know if they're going to
designate him a post June first cut. Are they going
to spread out the dead cap money? Over two years?
We had scored forty nine million dollars? Yeah that the
Jets have said, we'd rather move on than pay you
that forty nine million dollars.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
Really making the Packers look even smarter all this, but yeah,
go ahead.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Right though, right right about what? He played four downs
the first season, They had better score than him playing
the whole season. We mean a better score, the better record,
better record, better score, I mean, Kobe did better. You
know they had been what are you talking about to
accentuate that I said something wrong.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
I don't think you need to worry about that. You
don't need to worry about that. Who's that tight end
for the Patriots for a long time? Now he's on
Kovski Gronkowski right, Okay, I keep forgetting his name. Thanks
his chin concerto is one of my favorites, the Gronkowsky concerto,
super Bowl Licks, super Bowl lix. The Jets have just
been taking it in the teeth today, right, And I
(01:25):
get it because the Rogers experiment two years the Jets
had a better record without him than they did with him.
I think that's what you're kind of looking pretty well
down the stretch.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
But as soon as Jay Glazer hit the uh the
edge of that the balcony on Bourbon Street, it was.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
All over to tell us all about it. But I
want to say this because this is a big deal
and it's also you know, tells you that you know
where the Jets are. The calendar is twelve months long.
Calendar is twelve months long. We go January to December
wherever you want.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Should we have had a spoiler alert Banks to January.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
The calendar goes January to December. Okay, if you want
to go Solstice to solstice and go it's it's okay, yeah,
full moon twelve months right, we have to mercury is
in retrograde or whatever. Yet you want to know the
great impact. I'm not lying because this is a great impact. Right,
it's a great impact. This is not me, Jason, No, no, no,
great impact. Okay. The calendar is twelve months long. The
(02:24):
month of September is just as long as the month
of April. Thirty days has September, April, June, and November.
All the rest have thirty one but February, so it's
the same time. Same time goes by running and stealing
in a drunken state and I'll be rocking mob rons.
So the calendar is twelve months long. All the months
(02:44):
a thirty days, like when you get twenty eight in February,
but they're about thirty days long. No month is way
longer than the other. And I want to thank Aaron
Rodgers forgiving us the two best off seasons in the
history of the NFL. For your Jets. Just be now
(03:05):
the hitting. There has been no team that has enjoyed
a better six month off season of giddiness and excitedness
than the Jets. The last two years with Aaron Rodgers,
the seasons were awful. They were ass man, they were terrible.
But it doesn't matter because the six months of the
season is the same length as the six months of
(03:26):
the off season, right, six months, six months, And I
had the fast Lane for six months. Yes, the six
months was February through August, but I had those six months.
I had those. They were great. Yeah, but there was
hope with a lot of heat, you know. But there
was no games to worry about, no pesky games. No, oh,
we're gonna fall short. The Jets are gonna jet whatever
the Jets decide to do. A quarterback is wrong, no, no, no,
(03:48):
no no. I had six months of the fast Lady. Yeah,
we're gonna kick your ask because Aaron Rodgers is great. Right,
And then the first year happens, he plays four STAPs,
gets hurt. Oh that sucked bad six months, But then
what great six months Rogers is back. We're gonna make
big trades, we got new stuff, ab all, we were great. Yeah,
we're gonna kick your ass again. And it didn't happen.
But still, over the last two years, six months of
(04:12):
each of those years were amazing. I had hard knocks,
I had ayahuasca retreats, I had all kinds of great stuff.
It was we were full of hope and possibility and
giddiness and electricity, and then it all went down the
toilet in September. But it doesn't matter because I had
those six months. You think the six months the offseason
don't gout? Oh no, no, when you're a Jet fan,
(04:33):
the Jets stink out loud for thirty years, and I
went my entire forties and out into into the first
half of my fifties without a beep. Them playoff berth. No,
you need the off seasons, man. There was no team
that enjoyed a better, more excitable, relevant off seasons than
the Jets. The last two is where they dominated conversation.
(04:53):
If there was a trophy for the off season champion,
the Jets would look like the Patriots of the last
twenty years. Wow, offseason champion. Twice they got far of
here off season Championaire, off season champion, here, off season champion.
Oh oh, they went out of off season championaire offseason
the last two years off season champions, like we would
have so many trophies, man, so many trophies. And I'm
(05:13):
being honest when I go I love those months because
there was no pressure of games. It was I could
be excited, I could buy gear, I could run my bad,
you could buy in awesome, and you could buy in
as much or as little as you needed to because
you had the Mets that you were dealing with as well.
So that's good. You know I'm gonna do.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
I'm gonna start my company that we make shot glasses
that look like little trophies and you can line them
up for each year that you won and.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
As a drink.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
The other thing the Jets were responsible for, and I
had this argument as we celebrated commemorated NFL honors and
my predictive and prognosticating skills of Josh Allen winning the
MVP Award. Like it or not, the Jets are partially
responsible for that because of their failed expectations allowed the
(05:57):
Bills to rise and give him an opportunity and claim
the award.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Again.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
We can fight about Lamar Jackson, Saquon Barkley, whether the
offensive player the year thing really just doesn't matter since
those guys never get a sniff at the award. But
all of that to say you got that for you,
And I will also say I should have won a
Marconi Award last year because after Aaron Rodgers got hurt,
(06:23):
I've never had to definitely work through four hours of
radio carefully because your psyche was broken.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
You were a fractured man sitting next to me. You
were like my friend.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
When Mitch Williams gave up the home run to Joe Carter,
he went sprinting out of the room along the Chicago coastline.
He was down on Lake Michigan. We lost him for
hours and we feared that he jumped in. Eventually I
found him sitting on the side of the road, just
heading his hands, going what happened?
Speaker 1 (06:49):
What happened?
Speaker 3 (06:50):
All these years later, that's still the first thing he says.
I still don't know what happened. And you you're still
reeling from the aftermath, the after shocks of that Rogers injury.
But I'll give you that the the off season, the
last couple of years of being a lot of giddiness.
I'll look at look at the team that's been assembled
this year. How many people jumped on board that bandwagon?
(07:11):
And like I told you, it was overweighted. It's like
when everybody starts to pushing out up, he's like, oh no, no,
that's gonna sink. That's that's terrible. That that's overweighted and bad.
And sure enough it was for a myriad reasons. But uh,
they did give us plenty of content. And that's all
we can hope for in these chairs, that we get
to laugh and point and snicker, and Woody Johnson's kid
(07:33):
gets involved. Oh sweet Brick, sweet Brick, thank you for
the context front.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
But he pushed him out. I mean, in the end,
Brick makes him go away. Do you think Brick wrote
the statement for what he did he put out tonight.
There's no question about it, because there was because he's young,
because there was no punctuation.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
Everything was lower games. It was like it was like
he wrote a tweet. Here's a text. Yeah, just use that,
that'll work.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
It's like Kevin Klein getting to how to how to
how to message somebody younger on Facebook in uh in disclaiming,
Oh so don't don't use any capital letters. No, okay,
all right, don't use that. I agree, and just run
on sentences. Ye, all right, run on sentences, run on sentences.
But no, but I'm being serious. It was. It was
Thank you Aaron Rodgers because the two off seasons were unbelievable.
(08:18):
And I know the pesky seasons think and Jet's gonna
jet and not sucked, but man, the off seasons were great.
Thank you for the music. Seas were great. Song I'm
singing with the Jets parting ways with Aaron Rodgers today. Uh,
this is something that many people are gonna love. They're
(08:39):
gonna say who after I say what I'm gonna say,
and some are gonna go, great, We're screwed. Uh Rodgers.
This should be it for him, right, he should be done.
I think this past year was probably as good as
it's gonna be. Right. He had his hand picked offense
coordinator a year ago, handpicked players, handpicked everything, and it
(08:59):
and it went as well as it possibly could. Still
through twenty eight touchdowns, you know, it was in the
top ten for touchdowns and yards. That's about as good
as it's. Okay.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
They fired the guy that ran the defense, and the
defense went into the tank, thereby submarining any opportunity to
win games and opening the door for Josh Allen to
be MVP.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
I also gotta be good before Week twelve, when you're, well,
there is something to be said. But what really gets
me is that right away seeing here are potential landing
spots for Aaron Rodgers, here's potential landing spots for Russell Wilson.
When both of these guys are basically done, these should be.
This should be in any other off season, this should be. Hey,
(09:39):
both these guys are gonna retire. Will they both go
in the Hall of Fame together? Will they wait? Because
Russell Wilson is washed? We saw it. Aaron Rodgers, you're
really gonna try to catch lightning in a bottle with
him in Vegas for a year, or you're gonna draft
the young quarterback and start over. I don't know that
there's a fit, but it doesn't stop out there personnel
people and league sources saying hey, here's where Rogers could go. Here.
(10:02):
If your team doesn't need a quarterback this offseason, count
yourself thankful. Right, this is where Cowboys fans can finally say, great,
something I have in my column, Because if you need
a quarterback this offseason, you are screwed. With a capitol
S capital C capitol are small E, big W, small
E big D. You are screwed because this class is awful.
(10:24):
Nobody seems to want Sam Darnold, who is the best
guy out there. The fact that you're still saying, hey,
maybe we can find the dust Off Rogers and Russell Wilson,
what does that tell you? Because the quarterback class and
the draft is no good. Yeah, cam Warden Schador Sanders
will go at the top of the draft. They're the
two best quarterbacks out there. Now, are they really top
five draft picks? Probably not, But because they're quarterbacks, everybody
(10:48):
needs them. They'll go in the top five. And then
there's a big drop off until you get to the
second third rounders, which are McCord and Dart and Milrow
and youers like, this is not the year to want
a quarterback. If you need a quarterback this year, you
are screwed. Like, I don't know where the hell the
Jets are gonna go for Gret's why I thought they're
gonna keep Rogers, fear because there's no place else they
can go for quarterback. Who the hell else are they
(11:09):
bring in other than drafting somebody and bringing them along
slow nobody. Same thing for the Titans, same thing for
the Raiders, same thing for anybody. Are you gonna say hey,
we'll wait to wait for the Saints to cut Derek Carks.
Looks like maybe that could happen after Kellen Moore refuse
to even talk about him today, Like, that's where you're going.
There's nobody out there. This is the worst year for
quarterbacks that I can remember. I'm not gonna sit here
(11:31):
and go this is the worst year for quarterbacks in
the last seventy five years. No, but this is the
worst year that I can remember. If you need a quarterback,
there literally is nobody out there. The Giants will get
Shador Sanders, the Browns will get cam Ward and Boom,
and that's how it's gonna go. And the Titans will
eventually wind up smartening up and saying, okay, we'll draft
Travis Hunter because he's a potential franchise Hall of Fame
(11:54):
type player that can play on both sides of the ball.
So that's how it's gonna go. If you need a quarterback, man,
you are screwed, right. We know life is miserable in
the NFL if you don't have a quarterback, but when
when life is miserable when you don't have one, And
it's worse when you can't get one. It's like being
hungry and you're locked in a room. If I'm hungry,
but I'm in front of my refrigerator, I get something
(12:16):
to eat. You can eat one of those Star Wars.
I can get something to eat. If I'm hungry and
locked in a room with no food, guess what, I'm
hungry and I'm not eating and that makes me even matter, right,
So that's what this is. This is being hungry in
a room instead of being hungry in front of refrigerator.
This is how bad it is. Man. That's why certain
teams like, yes, this is your greatest day of the
offseason for the Cowboys, for any of the team that's
(12:38):
got a quarterback. Hey, I'm feeling awesome about my team
because we're not gonna have to go out and get
one this year. This is great.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
At least you think you have a quarterback. You don't know,
but you think you do. Right, you're in Minnesota, you're
in some of these spots, you at least have say
you thank you?
Speaker 1 (12:55):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Right?
Speaker 1 (12:55):
What I mean?
Speaker 3 (12:56):
Look, because by all metrics, like you can just look
at the final stat for certain quarterbacks like look at
look at me in Chicago, Ben Johnson shows up so
he's gonna fix Caleb Williams, right right. I mean, those
stats look good, but you go dig inside the numbers.
There's a lot of work to be done. But that's fine.
You think you've got something that you can at least
work with. Kyle McCord's gonna end up getting drafted at
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the back end of the first round. Buddy, you're gonna
have a Syracuse quarterback because desperation, as we know, is
a stinky colone. But also it's the reality. Right, Travis
Hunter is gonna go to the Combine as a cornerback.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
That's fine.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
He's still gonna end up with a team that's going
to make him part of the offense. Right, You're gonna
go and work through old colleague here at Fox Sports Radio,
Will Blackman went in as a wide receiver to the Combine.
Guess what he ended up playing in the NFL as
a cornerback. Because it can go both ways. You stick around,
you go through some drills, you impress on folks that
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there's some other things that you might be able to do.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
The Browns are an interesting, you know, quandary all over
the place.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
Are they gonna trade Miles Garrett? Did they stay where
they are. Do they think they're close to the playoffs
or they are they in full rebuild mode where you
go when you draft your quarterback of the future as
showing one of these old older guard that are out
there right? What is Kirk Cousin? What is Aaron Rodgers?
Sam Darnold? He's still young ish, been in the league
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a while. Do you bank on the guy you saw
for those fourteen weeks or did the Rams and the Lions?
Did they show you enough to where yeah, I don't
want that, or do you just say, hey, those are
two defenses that really just had his number. All of
that to say, you know, for the Aaron Rodgers market,
I don't know. He showed me down the stretch.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
He could still put up some numbers, and if he's.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
Willing to be that guy, like that's the thing, right
for both he and Russell Wilson, I'd be more apt
to believe that Aaron Rodgers could be the guy that
recognizes I'm a bridge. I need to be a teacher,
rather than I think Russell Wilson.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Now I'm measuring him like being some kind of yogi.
I'm a bridge. I'm a bridge. Look at me and
think of me as a big golden gate bridge when
my arms are spread out. Yeah, that's the car getting
from one side of me to the other side. I'm
a bridge.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
It is funny because I was watching part one revisiting
the old documentary series about George Harrison, and it was
a lot about you know, mysticism and yogi's and what
he learned from Robbie Shankar and company as the Beatles
went on towards their end and he began his solo career.
But for Aaron Rodgers, very much the same thing, right,
(15:35):
has he learned that, Hey, I only have a year
or two left, so I need to be a good
teammate and I can be the mentor right all the
things he was trying to say, maybe to hang on
with the Jets. Does someone else, Pete Carroll or some
other team, you know, the Raiders or somebody else, do
they believe that that is the case. Otherwise, Yeah, it's
(15:56):
a terrible year. Zach Wilson's a top five guy in
the marn.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
You couldn't even get that out with a straight bet. Legitimately.
You couldn't even get that out legitimately. If you go
and you rank quarterbacks in the marketplace.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
It's all right, because you don't get Rogers or kirk
Cousins for free. They both have contracts and you have
to either give up assets or wait for them to
get the buy out and be a free agent in
the marketplace. And then we go to the draft. Do
you love any of these guys? No?
Speaker 1 (16:28):
Are they projects? Maybe?
Speaker 3 (16:30):
Well, you got to be secure as a coach, as
a GM that you get to hang around if you
bring one of them in.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
This is where teams like the Cardinals and the Bengals
and the Chargers and the Cowboys. Right, how much more
do you love Kyler Murray today? Looking around the marketplace?
Everybody complained about his contract, but it's like, well, we
know what he is. I don't got the problems everybody
else does. Yeah, good luck with that, all right? Right?
Speaker 3 (16:55):
I mean, Joe Burrow may be complaining about them not spending.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
Money and all the free agent he may lose.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
But if you're a Bengals fan, we got a lot
of problems and questions, but we.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Got that guy. Our guy might not be any good,
but boys better than nobody that you have. Oh I'm
feeling great. That's what worst year to get a quarterback man.
It is, I'm telling you it is a well look
at the rumor that may or may not have been real.
Did the Steelers call the Jaguars or not? That ends
up setting the world up absolute that Yeah, we'll get
(17:25):
to that in earnest. But it's one of those things
like if that's legit, great, If not, it still was
a fun day of theater. That's how desperate we are
at the position today. Began in the NFL with an
absolute rocket where there was a report from a guy
from the Golf Channel. Well, you know, well, not Adam Schefter,
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not Jay Glazer, not Jay Glazer's burner accounts that may
be out there. Not Adam Schefter, not a darn Schefter.
Not a dude from the Golf Channel tweeted out that hey,
Steelers have made a phone call to the Jaguars about
Trevor Lawrence. And this got spread like it was it
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was like a World War Z where suddenly they're on
the plane and there's one person in fact, then the
whole plane is infected. Like this thing spread so fast
I got a fever. Well, the Steelers, the Steelers wound
up call, they called the Jaguars. They could get Trevor Lawrence,
and then middle of the day it was, Hey, we
don't know how real this is. We don't know if
(18:31):
this actually happened or not. We're and then by three
o'clock or so in the afternoon it was there were
no phone calls made. The Steelers have not approached the
Jaguars about this. Trade has not happened where we're not
entertaining trading. Trevor Lawrence is not. So this went from
oh my goodness, the Steelers are getting Trevor Lawrence too.
There was never anything about this.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
It's great though, right because they're like, the Steelers are
going to be aggressive. Look what they're doing. They're going
after a quarterback. It's a total change in the way
the franchise is that.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
No, he didn't. Maybe the guy last day was Burr.
Maybe tomorrow the pardon me, are you mister bur sir?
That depends who's asking. Oh sure, I'm Adam Schefter. I
got a golf skip on on Scottie Scheffler and Schefter
and Scheffler and Schefter and Scheffler, which would be pretty
it just wrote it, just wrote itself right there, nicely done.
(19:21):
Wait a rift. I knew I could lay that up
for you right there. I want Adam Schefter now to
have an inside bit with Scotti Scheffler. I really want
that now, and also talking about former Broncos tight end
showing Tony Scheffler.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
So I want, oh Scheffler, let's go the same. He
was uh, Western Kentucky or Western Michigan.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, I think it was western.
I think Western Michigan, Western Michigan, Bronco. I think that's right.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
Yeah about So that's useless knowledge for one hundred hour.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
The story went from out that dude, no, it's not happening.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
But it was so exciting. It wasn't something that we
talked about. It was just like JJ reddick, thanks for
listening to the show.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Yeah, it was very excited. And here's where it should
go from here. If you haven't called the Jaguars about
Trevor Lawrence, call the Jaguars about Trevor Lawrence. Call call.
They don't have a GM though, call they don't even
have that kid GM. No, you can go. You get
Scotty Carson, that kid GM will answer. You get Trevor
Lawrence for three second round picks that I'm still interviewing
GMS you got. You gotta tell me, Sonny what's going on.
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I'm not getting my guy. I'm not getting my guy, Sonny,
what's going on? I'm paddict Sonny the kid GM What
do you know? Sonny? Call hey, I'm gonna look like
an idiot. I got Jonah from VEEP and I got
Dennis Leary in here with me. What do you think?
I know? The only thing that's going on. I got
the guy who played meat Loaf is also here telling
(20:41):
me stuff. Uh call the Jaguars calls. If you are
a team that needs a quarterback. We talked about it
last talk about last hour. This is the worst year
to need a quarterback. There is nobody out there. Trevor
Lawrence really is just a guy. However, even though he
is over paid, he is still better than anybody. You're
(21:02):
gonna get this off.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
The change of scenery with a competent coach. We've seen
like look what we've had. We've had a revolving door.
Peterson came in after urban Meyer screwed everything up.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
If Sam Donald can wind up finding a place to
look really good, then Trevor Lawrence can find a place
to look really good. It's just not happening in Jacksonville.
It's just not I'm sorry, we've seen it for too long.
We've seen him four years and he's just okay. He
had one really good year and the rest has been
Boy turns the ball over a lot and he's not dynamic.
And that big second half against the charge he had
that that that's been his His legacy has been that
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one second half against the Chargers. So if you need
a quarterback, yeah, call because Trevor Lawrence would be the
best guy you can get. Now, yes, he's overpaid, but
you already know. I know what I'm paying for my quarterback.
I know what I got. And if you're the Jaguars,
you gotta listen. You gotta listen. How many coaches are
you going to bring in to work with Trevor Lawrence
before you realize that, like Rick Buker told us last hour,
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how many guys are the Hawk's gonna trade away who
played with Trey Young before the Hawks go eh, maybe
we should instead, we should do this. How many coaches
you're gonna bring in to try to get the best
out of Trevor Lawrence? It's just not working. You overpaid
for him. You are a tear down. The Jaguars are
an Absolutely, they have a couple of nice pieces. I'm
not saying they don't. Brian Thomas. Brian Thomas is terrific. Right,
(22:17):
You got a couple of good running backs. I like
to have the running back room there. Tight End is
position is pretty good. You got a couple of good
tight ends too. But with all of this, Trevor Lawrence
is just a guy, and he's coming off a big injury.
And if you can get out from under the fifty
five million dollars a year, you can go get a
quarterback somewhere that can Hey, we'll draft a guy. We'll
(22:38):
draft a guy in the second round. Well, maybe maybe
Jalen Milroe is the guy. Maybe you need to do
something else simply because this direction is not working and
you can't keep looking at Trevor Lawrence and thinking he's
fresh faced out of Clemson and is gonna take over
the league. He's not the same guy. I get that
he means a lot to the team because you drafted him,
(22:58):
and you drafted him number one. He was supposed to
be generational, but he's not. And you have to understand that.
At some point you have to move to a future
that is better for you. We've had, we've had the
president future for the last four years. Now this will
be that this will be the third coach coming in now. Now,
this guy's gonna eventually, how much you have to realize, Okay, here,
Trevor Lawrence isn't gonna work. He's gotta go someplace else
(23:20):
to try to figure things out. And you can do it.
You'll get draft picks, right, You'll be able to get
the draft picks you want. Who knows, maybe you get
to move up high enough in the first round to
get that quarterback you want. You can blow the Browns
away with an offer, or the Giants away with an
offer and move up again. You can get you can
get draft picks, you can get out from under that salary,
and you can really restart in Jacksonville because we've seen
(23:40):
enough from Trevor Lawrence to go, okay here, it's just
not working. Maybe won't work anyplace else, but other teams
with the quarterback situation out there, When Sam Darnold's the
best guy out there and Gardner Minshew is the next
best guy out there, yeah, that there will be a
market for Trevor Lawrence hundred percent. Oh, there's no question
about it.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
And look for the acquiring team, it becomes he let's
work on the contract, let's stretched things out. Maybe you
convert some stuff to give yourself some flexibility to get
the best supporting cast around him. But goes back to
a conversation you and I have had a couple of
times after his hiring, and look, it was kind of
muted by some of the other coaching hires, but Cohen
(24:17):
going in we laughed about his duva and his wife saying,
I promise we'll learn how to say it right. Blah
blah blah. That's all finding good.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
This is also a guy when we talked with Jason
locafora and it's something that we punctuated a number of times.
This is a guy that's changed jobs every year for
like six seven years.
Speaker 3 (24:33):
That's usually not a good sign. I like upwardly mobile.
I like a guy that's climbing the ladder, but when
you're doing that in multiple organizations, that usually has a
bunch of flares up.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
Remember your guy, Joanna Cesspitis and I warned.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
You when he got to the met like he's been
bouncing organizations, this is not gonna end.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
Well, what happened. Yeah, we didn't end the series and
then it really didn't. But it didn't. But you really
paid him and we're on the home for him and
we gave him four years and one hundred million. I said,
did we just threw that money away?
Speaker 3 (25:00):
That was but yeah, so you had that run and
then that it was spectacular thereafter for Trevor Lawrence multiple years.
Here's a hard reset, new coach, bringing in a new GM,
new philosophy, whatever, Trevor Lawrence. Somewhere else that's more stable,
that has a plan, that has an organization with some
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level of foundation. Sorry duval A County, Sorry Jaguars fans.
Maybe maybe it's all for the best. And I like
Trevor Lawrence, I think there's there's something else to be
tapped into there if you had a functional offensive line.
Oh look, etn did not become the guy that they expected.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
Right. Certainly you haven't been able to capture lightning in
a bottle there. You've had some hits and misses.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
Christian Kirk getting hurt certainly didn't help matters last year
because running him with Brian Thomas might have been pretty entertaining.
You might have been able to get some more juice
out of that offense. Guess what wishes and hopes that
all for Christmas morning of what might be under the tree.
You're running in operation and you have to realize where
you are and at this point hitting a hard reset
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might be the way to go.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
Exit out about a Fresca exit swollen dome. The Jason
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they will listen. You can strike a deal and everybody's happy.
See we're solving problems here on a Thursday night. No,
that's what we try to do.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
I mean, we're here for American for the Globe on
the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
So we're getting set last night of the NBA before
we get set for Team Chuck and Team Kenny and
Team Everybody. This weekend celebrity game is better.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
At least Bailey from the Wwe may put a hurting
on someone if they try to, you know, handcheck too hard.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
I think Frankie Munis might play busy. I hope so
best race.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
Car Driver back for more Malcolm in the Middle. I
mean we get four outisodes. I know, I know, Thank you,
Brian Krantz, than thank you, thank you.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
But we saw today what was a big part of
NBA All Star Weekend last weekend is not going to
be part of it this year, and that is a
Steph Curry sabrinian Escu three point challenge where Steph won
by a couple. There's been a lot of fun trash
talk back and forth. They tried to get this together,
but for some reason they couldn't. In the NBA said hey,
(27:23):
we wanted to make sure we not only did it
as good as last year, we wanted to amp it
up a little bit more and have it be something big.
And I'm like, okay, how could you not do I mean,
it's a big deal, right, it's a big thing. How
could you not wind up agreeing on a way to
do this? People would still watch and then we saw
what they were looking at was potentially trying to get
a two on two three point shooting contents where Steph
(27:46):
would have his partner which could have been Klay Thompson,
and Unescu would have her partner, which could have been
Caitlin Clark. However, she talked about not doing it once
her first time on the court, to be in the
WNABA All Star Game here back in Indiana. And if
this doesn't show you that the biggest star in basketball
(28:08):
is Caitlin Clark, there's nothing else. I don't mean biggest
star in women's basketball. I mean the biggest star in
professional basketball is Caitlyn Clark. A year ago, I told
you she was going to have a Magic and Larry
impact on the WNBA, and I was low on that.
The impact she had on basketball in general was incredible.
The WNBA incredible. When you have a Steph Curry lead event.
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Steph Curry is leading this event and you're not gonna
do it because Caitlyn Clark won't do it or can't
do it, What does that really tell you about who
moves the needle of the most in all of sports.
We have a lot of big stars. Yet Lebron's a
big star, right, still a big star as we go
through Luca. We pay so much attention to everything going on.
NBA's got lots of stars. Caitlin Clark is the biggest
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star in all of basketball. Whatever she does it is news.
Whatever she touches turns to gold. And I mean a
Steph Curry event, one of the biggest stars in bad
the top five stars in the NBA. Oh no, we're
not having your event because we can't get Caitlin Clark
to do it. What does that really tell you about
who the most powerful, most popular, biggest star in basketball
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is men's or women's basketball. It's Kitlin Clark.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
You need better pr You need to really reevaluate how
you're coming and approaching All Star weekends would be the
bigger thing. The blip you got for all the trade
discussions before you know that one fell apart with the Lakers, remember,
because that ended up being bad. Not to mention all
the Nico stuff that's fallen out in Dallas, but all
(29:36):
of that to say, yeah, you've got a bigger problem
because you're not getting proper cooperation from your stars and
you're not able to sell your stars. Caitlyn Clark's appearance
should not be the thing that's determining whether you put
an event on. I'm sorry, I would like to think,
you know, your multi billion international operations should be bigger
(29:59):
than that. So I think you need to have some
really big moments. And if I'm someone who's bought advertising
or I don't know, bought into what was the what.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
Was the cost of the TV package.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
I'd be going to Adam silversoning I want my money back,
because this is crap. A woman who's got nothing to
do with this league won't participate, and you shut her events.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
What the hell am I buying here? I'm telling you
she's the biggest basketball star in the world, but she's
bigger than anything for her.
Speaker 3 (30:28):
Stick to your guns. You said this weeks ago, and
you were hoping for a Hail Mary. If you're the NBA,
what a disaster.
Big news in the NFL today. We knew this was coming.
The New York Jets have said goodbye to Aaron Rodgers.
Alex Tyser, do you have some sad? Aaron Rodgers? Goodbye? Music?
You get some? Get some sad?
Speaker 2 (00:13):
I mean I have one?
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Did clip?
Speaker 2 (00:14):
We could play whoa whoa.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
Whoa, whoa whoa?
Speaker 3 (00:18):
He busted out the musket. It was a special occasion.
You said, music, and you're here. You're itchy trigger finger
over there, music man music.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Wow. He hasn't been cut yet. A decision has not
been made. The Jets don't know if they're going to
designate him a post June first cut. Are they going
to spread out the dead cap money? Over two years?
We had scored forty nine million dollars? Yeah that the
Jets have said, we'd rather move on than pay you
that forty nine million dollars.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
Really making the Packers look even smarter all this, but yeah,
go ahead.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Right though, right right about what? He played four downs
the first season, They had better score than him playing
the whole season. We mean a better score, the better record,
better record, better score, I mean, Kobe did better. You
know they had been what are you talking about to
accentuate that I said something wrong.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
I don't think you need to worry about that. You
don't need to worry about that. Who's that tight end
for the Patriots for a long time? Now he's on
Kovski Gronkowski right, Okay, I keep forgetting his name. Thanks
his chin concerto is one of my favorites, the Gronkowsky concerto,
super Bowl Licks, super Bowl lix. The Jets have just
been taking it in the teeth today, right, And I
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get it because the Rogers experiment two years the Jets
had a better record without him than they did with him.
I think that's what you're kind of looking pretty well
down the stretch.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
But as soon as Jay Glazer hit the uh the
edge of that the balcony on Bourbon Street, it was.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
All over to tell us all about it. But I
want to say this because this is a big deal
and it's also you know, tells you that you know
where the Jets are. The calendar is twelve months long.
Calendar is twelve months long. We go January to December
wherever you want.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Should we have had a spoiler alert Banks to January.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
The calendar goes January to December. Okay, if you want
to go Solstice to solstice and go it's it's okay, yeah,
full moon twelve months right, we have to mercury is
in retrograde or whatever. Yet you want to know the
great impact. I'm not lying because this is a great impact. Right,
it's a great impact. This is not me, Jason, No, no, no,
great impact. Okay. The calendar is twelve months long. The
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month of September is just as long as the month
of April. Thirty days has September, April, June, and November.
All the rest have thirty one but February, so it's
the same time. Same time goes by running and stealing
in a drunken state and I'll be rocking mob rons.
So the calendar is twelve months long. All the months
(02:44):
a thirty days, like when you get twenty eight in February,
but they're about thirty days long. No month is way
longer than the other. And I want to thank Aaron
Rodgers forgiving us the two best off seasons in the
history of the NFL. For your Jets. Just be now
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the hitting. There has been no team that has enjoyed
a better six month off season of giddiness and excitedness
than the Jets. The last two years with Aaron Rodgers,
the seasons were awful. They were ass man, they were terrible.
But it doesn't matter because the six months of the
season is the same length as the six months of
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the off season, right, six months, six months, And I
had the fast Lane for six months. Yes, the six
months was February through August, but I had those six months.
I had those. They were great. Yeah, but there was
hope with a lot of heat, you know. But there
was no games to worry about, no pesky games. No, oh,
we're gonna fall short. The Jets are gonna jet whatever
the Jets decide to do. A quarterback is wrong, no, no, no,
(03:48):
no no. I had six months of the fast Lady. Yeah,
we're gonna kick your ask because Aaron Rodgers is great. Right,
And then the first year happens, he plays four STAPs,
gets hurt. Oh that sucked bad six months, But then
what great six months Rogers is back. We're gonna make
big trades, we got new stuff, ab all, we were great. Yeah,
we're gonna kick your ass again. And it didn't happen.
But still, over the last two years, six months of
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each of those years were amazing. I had hard knocks,
I had ayahuasca retreats, I had all kinds of great stuff.
It was we were full of hope and possibility and
giddiness and electricity, and then it all went down the
toilet in September. But it doesn't matter because I had
those six months. You think the six months the offseason
don't gout? Oh no, no, when you're a Jet fan,
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the Jets stink out loud for thirty years, and I
went my entire forties and out into into the first
half of my fifties without a beep. Them playoff berth. No,
you need the off seasons, man. There was no team
that enjoyed a better, more excitable, relevant off seasons than
the Jets. The last two is where they dominated conversation.
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If there was a trophy for the off season champion,
the Jets would look like the Patriots of the last
twenty years. Wow, offseason champion. Twice they got far of
here off season Championaire, off season champion, here, off season champion.
Oh oh, they went out of off season championaire offseason
the last two years off season champions, like we would
have so many trophies, man, so many trophies. And I'm
(05:13):
being honest when I go I love those months because
there was no pressure of games. It was I could
be excited, I could buy gear, I could run my bad,
you could buy in awesome, and you could buy in
as much or as little as you needed to because
you had the Mets that you were dealing with as well.
So that's good. You know I'm gonna do.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
I'm gonna start my company that we make shot glasses
that look like little trophies and you can line them
up for each year that you won and.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
As a drink.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
The other thing the Jets were responsible for, and I
had this argument as we celebrated commemorated NFL honors and
my predictive and prognosticating skills of Josh Allen winning the
MVP Award. Like it or not, the Jets are partially
responsible for that because of their failed expectations allowed the
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Bills to rise and give him an opportunity and claim
the award.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Again.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
We can fight about Lamar Jackson, Saquon Barkley, whether the
offensive player the year thing really just doesn't matter since
those guys never get a sniff at the award. But
all of that to say you got that for you,
And I will also say I should have won a
Marconi Award last year because after Aaron Rodgers got hurt,
(06:23):
I've never had to definitely work through four hours of
radio carefully because your psyche was broken.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
You were a fractured man sitting next to me. You
were like my friend.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
When Mitch Williams gave up the home run to Joe Carter,
he went sprinting out of the room along the Chicago coastline.
He was down on Lake Michigan. We lost him for
hours and we feared that he jumped in. Eventually I
found him sitting on the side of the road, just
heading his hands, going what happened?
Speaker 1 (06:49):
What happened?
Speaker 3 (06:50):
All these years later, that's still the first thing he says.
I still don't know what happened. And you you're still
reeling from the aftermath, the after shocks of that Rogers injury.
But I'll give you that the the off season, the
last couple of years of being a lot of giddiness.
I'll look at look at the team that's been assembled
this year. How many people jumped on board that bandwagon?
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And like I told you, it was overweighted. It's like
when everybody starts to pushing out up, he's like, oh no, no,
that's gonna sink. That's that's terrible. That that's overweighted and bad.
And sure enough it was for a myriad reasons. But uh,
they did give us plenty of content. And that's all
we can hope for in these chairs, that we get
to laugh and point and snicker, and Woody Johnson's kid
(07:33):
gets involved. Oh sweet Brick, sweet Brick, thank you for
the context front.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
But he pushed him out. I mean, in the end,
Brick makes him go away. Do you think Brick wrote
the statement for what he did he put out tonight.
There's no question about it, because there was because he's young,
because there was no punctuation.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
Everything was lower games. It was like it was like
he wrote a tweet. Here's a text. Yeah, just use that,
that'll work.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
It's like Kevin Klein getting to how to how to
how to message somebody younger on Facebook in uh in disclaiming,
Oh so don't don't use any capital letters. No, okay,
all right, don't use that. I agree, and just run
on sentences. Ye, all right, run on sentences, run on sentences.
But no, but I'm being serious. It was. It was
Thank you Aaron Rodgers because the two off seasons were unbelievable.
(08:18):
And I know the pesky seasons think and Jet's gonna
jet and not sucked, but man, the off seasons were great.
Thank you for the music. Seas were great. Song I'm
singing with the Jets parting ways with Aaron Rodgers today. Uh,
this is something that many people are gonna love. They're
(08:39):
gonna say who after I say what I'm gonna say,
and some are gonna go, great, We're screwed. Uh Rodgers.
This should be it for him, right, he should be done.
I think this past year was probably as good as
it's gonna be. Right. He had his hand picked offense
coordinator a year ago, handpicked players, handpicked everything, and it
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and it went as well as it possibly could. Still
through twenty eight touchdowns, you know, it was in the
top ten for touchdowns and yards. That's about as good
as it's. Okay.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
They fired the guy that ran the defense, and the
defense went into the tank, thereby submarining any opportunity to
win games and opening the door for Josh Allen to
be MVP.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
I also gotta be good before Week twelve, when you're, well,
there is something to be said. But what really gets
me is that right away seeing here are potential landing
spots for Aaron Rodgers, here's potential landing spots for Russell Wilson.
When both of these guys are basically done, these should be.
This should be in any other off season, this should be. Hey,
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both these guys are gonna retire. Will they both go
in the Hall of Fame together? Will they wait? Because
Russell Wilson is washed? We saw it. Aaron Rodgers, you're
really gonna try to catch lightning in a bottle with
him in Vegas for a year, or you're gonna draft
the young quarterback and start over. I don't know that
there's a fit, but it doesn't stop out there personnel
people and league sources saying hey, here's where Rogers could go. Here.
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If your team doesn't need a quarterback this offseason, count
yourself thankful. Right, this is where Cowboys fans can finally say, great,
something I have in my column, Because if you need
a quarterback this offseason, you are screwed. With a capitol
S capital C capitol are small E, big W, small
E big D. You are screwed because this class is awful.
(10:24):
Nobody seems to want Sam Darnold, who is the best
guy out there. The fact that you're still saying, hey,
maybe we can find the dust Off Rogers and Russell Wilson,
what does that tell you? Because the quarterback class and
the draft is no good. Yeah, cam Warden Schador Sanders
will go at the top of the draft. They're the
two best quarterbacks out there. Now, are they really top
five draft picks? Probably not, But because they're quarterbacks, everybody
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needs them. They'll go in the top five. And then
there's a big drop off until you get to the
second third rounders, which are McCord and Dart and Milrow
and youers like, this is not the year to want
a quarterback. If you need a quarterback this year, you
are screwed. Like, I don't know where the hell the
Jets are gonna go for Gret's why I thought they're
gonna keep Rogers, fear because there's no place else they
can go for quarterback. Who the hell else are they
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bring in other than drafting somebody and bringing them along
slow nobody. Same thing for the Titans, same thing for
the Raiders, same thing for anybody. Are you gonna say hey,
we'll wait to wait for the Saints to cut Derek Carks.
Looks like maybe that could happen after Kellen Moore refuse
to even talk about him today, Like, that's where you're going.
There's nobody out there. This is the worst year for
quarterbacks that I can remember. I'm not gonna sit here
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and go this is the worst year for quarterbacks in
the last seventy five years. No, but this is the
worst year that I can remember. If you need a quarterback,
there literally is nobody out there. The Giants will get
Shador Sanders, the Browns will get cam Ward and Boom,
and that's how it's gonna go. And the Titans will
eventually wind up smartening up and saying, okay, we'll draft
Travis Hunter because he's a potential franchise Hall of Fame
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type player that can play on both sides of the ball.
So that's how it's gonna go. If you need a quarterback, man,
you are screwed, right. We know life is miserable in
the NFL if you don't have a quarterback, but when
when life is miserable when you don't have one, And
it's worse when you can't get one. It's like being
hungry and you're locked in a room. If I'm hungry,
but I'm in front of my refrigerator, I get something
(12:16):
to eat. You can eat one of those Star Wars.
I can get something to eat. If I'm hungry and
locked in a room with no food, guess what, I'm
hungry and I'm not eating and that makes me even matter, right,
So that's what this is. This is being hungry in
a room instead of being hungry in front of refrigerator.
This is how bad it is. Man. That's why certain
teams like, yes, this is your greatest day of the
offseason for the Cowboys, for any of the team that's
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got a quarterback. Hey, I'm feeling awesome about my team
because we're not gonna have to go out and get
one this year. This is great.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
At least you think you have a quarterback. You don't know,
but you think you do. Right, you're in Minnesota, you're
in some of these spots, you at least have say
you thank you?
Speaker 1 (12:55):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Right?
Speaker 1 (12:55):
What I mean?
Speaker 3 (12:56):
Look, because by all metrics, like you can just look
at the final stat for certain quarterbacks like look at
look at me in Chicago, Ben Johnson shows up so
he's gonna fix Caleb Williams, right right. I mean, those
stats look good, but you go dig inside the numbers.
There's a lot of work to be done. But that's fine.
You think you've got something that you can at least
work with. Kyle McCord's gonna end up getting drafted at
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the back end of the first round. Buddy, you're gonna
have a Syracuse quarterback because desperation, as we know, is
a stinky colone. But also it's the reality. Right, Travis
Hunter is gonna go to the Combine as a cornerback.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
That's fine.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
He's still gonna end up with a team that's going
to make him part of the offense. Right, You're gonna
go and work through old colleague here at Fox Sports Radio,
Will Blackman went in as a wide receiver to the Combine.
Guess what he ended up playing in the NFL as
a cornerback. Because it can go both ways. You stick around,
you go through some drills, you impress on folks that
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there's some other things that you might be able to do.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
The Browns are an interesting, you know, quandary all over
the place.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
Are they gonna trade Miles Garrett? Did they stay where
they are. Do they think they're close to the playoffs
or they are they in full rebuild mode where you
go when you draft your quarterback of the future as
showing one of these old older guard that are out
there right? What is Kirk Cousin? What is Aaron Rodgers?
Sam Darnold? He's still young ish, been in the league
(14:23):
a while. Do you bank on the guy you saw
for those fourteen weeks or did the Rams and the Lions?
Did they show you enough to where yeah, I don't
want that, or do you just say, hey, those are
two defenses that really just had his number. All of
that to say, you know, for the Aaron Rodgers market,
I don't know. He showed me down the stretch.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
He could still put up some numbers, and if he's.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
Willing to be that guy, like that's the thing, right
for both he and Russell Wilson, I'd be more apt
to believe that Aaron Rodgers could be the guy that
recognizes I'm a bridge. I need to be a teacher,
rather than I think Russell Wilson.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Now I'm measuring him like being some kind of yogi.
I'm a bridge. I'm a bridge. Look at me and
think of me as a big golden gate bridge when
my arms are spread out. Yeah, that's the car getting
from one side of me to the other side. I'm
a bridge.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
It is funny because I was watching part one revisiting
the old documentary series about George Harrison, and it was
a lot about you know, mysticism and yogi's and what
he learned from Robbie Shankar and company as the Beatles
went on towards their end and he began his solo career.
But for Aaron Rodgers, very much the same thing, right,
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has he learned that, Hey, I only have a year
or two left, so I need to be a good
teammate and I can be the mentor right all the
things he was trying to say, maybe to hang on
with the Jets. Does someone else, Pete Carroll or some
other team, you know, the Raiders or somebody else, do
they believe that that is the case. Otherwise, Yeah, it's
(15:56):
a terrible year. Zach Wilson's a top five guy in
the marn.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
You couldn't even get that out with a straight bet. Legitimately.
You couldn't even get that out legitimately. If you go
and you rank quarterbacks in the marketplace.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
It's all right, because you don't get Rogers or kirk
Cousins for free. They both have contracts and you have
to either give up assets or wait for them to
get the buy out and be a free agent in
the marketplace. And then we go to the draft. Do
you love any of these guys? No?
Speaker 1 (16:28):
Are they projects? Maybe?
Speaker 3 (16:30):
Well, you got to be secure as a coach, as
a GM that you get to hang around if you
bring one of them in.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
This is where teams like the Cardinals and the Bengals
and the Chargers and the Cowboys. Right, how much more
do you love Kyler Murray today? Looking around the marketplace?
Everybody complained about his contract, but it's like, well, we
know what he is. I don't got the problems everybody
else does. Yeah, good luck with that, all right? Right?
Speaker 3 (16:55):
I mean, Joe Burrow may be complaining about them not spending.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
Money and all the free agent he may lose.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
But if you're a Bengals fan, we got a lot
of problems and questions, but we.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Got that guy. Our guy might not be any good,
but boys better than nobody that you have. Oh I'm
feeling great. That's what worst year to get a quarterback man.
It is, I'm telling you it is a well look
at the rumor that may or may not have been real.
Did the Steelers call the Jaguars or not? That ends
up setting the world up absolute that Yeah, we'll get
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to that in earnest. But it's one of those things
like if that's legit, great, If not, it still was
a fun day of theater. That's how desperate we are
at the position today. Began in the NFL with an
absolute rocket where there was a report from a guy
from the Golf Channel. Well, you know, well, not Adam Schefter,
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not Jay Glazer, not Jay Glazer's burner accounts that may
be out there. Not Adam Schefter, not a darn Schefter.
Not a dude from the Golf Channel tweeted out that hey,
Steelers have made a phone call to the Jaguars about
Trevor Lawrence. And this got spread like it was it
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was like a World War Z where suddenly they're on
the plane and there's one person in fact, then the
whole plane is infected. Like this thing spread so fast
I got a fever. Well, the Steelers, the Steelers wound
up call, they called the Jaguars. They could get Trevor Lawrence,
and then middle of the day it was, Hey, we
don't know how real this is. We don't know if
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this actually happened or not. We're and then by three
o'clock or so in the afternoon it was there were
no phone calls made. The Steelers have not approached the
Jaguars about this. Trade has not happened where we're not
entertaining trading. Trevor Lawrence is not. So this went from
oh my goodness, the Steelers are getting Trevor Lawrence too.
There was never anything about this.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
It's great though, right because they're like, the Steelers are
going to be aggressive. Look what they're doing. They're going
after a quarterback. It's a total change in the way
the franchise is that.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
No, he didn't. Maybe the guy last day was Burr.
Maybe tomorrow the pardon me, are you mister bur sir?
That depends who's asking. Oh sure, I'm Adam Schefter. I
got a golf skip on on Scottie Scheffler and Schefter
and Scheffler and Schefter and Scheffler, which would be pretty
it just wrote it, just wrote itself right there, nicely done.
(19:21):
Wait a rift. I knew I could lay that up
for you right there. I want Adam Schefter now to
have an inside bit with Scotti Scheffler. I really want
that now, and also talking about former Broncos tight end
showing Tony Scheffler.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
So I want, oh Scheffler, let's go the same. He
was uh, Western Kentucky or Western Michigan.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, I think it was western.
I think Western Michigan, Western Michigan, Bronco. I think that's right.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
Yeah about So that's useless knowledge for one hundred hour.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
The story went from out that dude, no, it's not happening.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
But it was so exciting. It wasn't something that we
talked about. It was just like JJ reddick, thanks for
listening to the show.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Yeah, it was very excited. And here's where it should
go from here. If you haven't called the Jaguars about
Trevor Lawrence, call the Jaguars about Trevor Lawrence. Call call.
They don't have a GM though, call they don't even
have that kid GM. No, you can go. You get
Scotty Carson, that kid GM will answer. You get Trevor
Lawrence for three second round picks that I'm still interviewing
GMS you got. You gotta tell me, Sonny what's going on.
(20:20):
I'm not getting my guy. I'm not getting my guy, Sonny,
what's going on? I'm paddict Sonny the kid GM What
do you know? Sonny? Call hey, I'm gonna look like
an idiot. I got Jonah from VEEP and I got
Dennis Leary in here with me. What do you think?
I know? The only thing that's going on. I got
the guy who played meat Loaf is also here telling
(20:41):
me stuff. Uh call the Jaguars calls. If you are
a team that needs a quarterback. We talked about it
last talk about last hour. This is the worst year
to need a quarterback. There is nobody out there. Trevor
Lawrence really is just a guy. However, even though he
is over paid, he is still better than anybody. You're
(21:02):
gonna get this off.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
The change of scenery with a competent coach. We've seen
like look what we've had. We've had a revolving door.
Peterson came in after urban Meyer screwed everything up.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
If Sam Donald can wind up finding a place to
look really good, then Trevor Lawrence can find a place
to look really good. It's just not happening in Jacksonville.
It's just not I'm sorry, we've seen it for too long.
We've seen him four years and he's just okay. He
had one really good year and the rest has been
Boy turns the ball over a lot and he's not dynamic.
And that big second half against the charge he had
that that that's been his His legacy has been that
(21:34):
one second half against the Chargers. So if you need
a quarterback, yeah, call because Trevor Lawrence would be the
best guy you can get. Now, yes, he's overpaid, but
you already know. I know what I'm paying for my quarterback.
I know what I got. And if you're the Jaguars,
you gotta listen. You gotta listen. How many coaches are
you going to bring in to work with Trevor Lawrence
before you realize that, like Rick Buker told us last hour,
(21:56):
how many guys are the Hawk's gonna trade away who
played with Trey Young before the Hawks go eh, maybe
we should instead, we should do this. How many coaches
you're gonna bring in to try to get the best
out of Trevor Lawrence? It's just not working. You overpaid
for him. You are a tear down. The Jaguars are
an Absolutely, they have a couple of nice pieces. I'm
not saying they don't. Brian Thomas. Brian Thomas is terrific. Right,
(22:17):
You got a couple of good running backs. I like
to have the running back room there. Tight End is
position is pretty good. You got a couple of good
tight ends too. But with all of this, Trevor Lawrence
is just a guy, and he's coming off a big injury.
And if you can get out from under the fifty
five million dollars a year, you can go get a
quarterback somewhere that can Hey, we'll draft a guy. We'll
(22:38):
draft a guy in the second round. Well, maybe maybe
Jalen Milroe is the guy. Maybe you need to do
something else simply because this direction is not working and
you can't keep looking at Trevor Lawrence and thinking he's
fresh faced out of Clemson and is gonna take over
the league. He's not the same guy. I get that
he means a lot to the team because you drafted him,
(22:58):
and you drafted him number one. He was supposed to
be generational, but he's not. And you have to understand that.
At some point you have to move to a future
that is better for you. We've had, we've had the
president future for the last four years. Now this will
be that this will be the third coach coming in now. Now,
this guy's gonna eventually, how much you have to realize, Okay, here,
Trevor Lawrence isn't gonna work. He's gotta go someplace else
(23:20):
to try to figure things out. And you can do it.
You'll get draft picks, right, You'll be able to get
the draft picks you want. Who knows, maybe you get
to move up high enough in the first round to
get that quarterback you want. You can blow the Browns
away with an offer, or the Giants away with an
offer and move up again. You can get you can
get draft picks, you can get out from under that salary,
and you can really restart in Jacksonville because we've seen
(23:40):
enough from Trevor Lawrence to go, okay here, it's just
not working. Maybe won't work anyplace else, but other teams
with the quarterback situation out there, When Sam Darnold's the
best guy out there and Gardner Minshew is the next
best guy out there, yeah, that there will be a
market for Trevor Lawrence hundred percent. Oh, there's no question
about it.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
And look for the acquiring team, it becomes he let's
work on the contract, let's stretched things out. Maybe you
convert some stuff to give yourself some flexibility to get
the best supporting cast around him. But goes back to
a conversation you and I have had a couple of
times after his hiring, and look, it was kind of
muted by some of the other coaching hires, but Cohen
(24:17):
going in we laughed about his duva and his wife saying,
I promise we'll learn how to say it right. Blah
blah blah. That's all finding good.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
This is also a guy when we talked with Jason
locafora and it's something that we punctuated a number of times.
This is a guy that's changed jobs every year for
like six seven years.
Speaker 3 (24:33):
That's usually not a good sign. I like upwardly mobile.
I like a guy that's climbing the ladder, but when
you're doing that in multiple organizations, that usually has a
bunch of flares up.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
Remember your guy, Joanna Cesspitis and I warned.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
You when he got to the met like he's been
bouncing organizations, this is not gonna end.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
Well, what happened. Yeah, we didn't end the series and
then it really didn't. But it didn't. But you really
paid him and we're on the home for him and
we gave him four years and one hundred million. I said,
did we just threw that money away?
Speaker 3 (25:00):
That was but yeah, so you had that run and
then that it was spectacular thereafter for Trevor Lawrence multiple years.
Here's a hard reset, new coach, bringing in a new GM,
new philosophy, whatever, Trevor Lawrence. Somewhere else that's more stable,
that has a plan, that has an organization with some
(25:22):
level of foundation. Sorry duval A County, Sorry Jaguars fans.
Maybe maybe it's all for the best. And I like
Trevor Lawrence, I think there's there's something else to be
tapped into there if you had a functional offensive line.
Oh look, etn did not become the guy that they expected.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
Right. Certainly you haven't been able to capture lightning in
a bottle there. You've had some hits and misses.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
Christian Kirk getting hurt certainly didn't help matters last year
because running him with Brian Thomas might have been pretty entertaining.
You might have been able to get some more juice
out of that offense. Guess what wishes and hopes that
all for Christmas morning of what might be under the tree.
You're running in operation and you have to realize where
you are and at this point hitting a hard reset
(26:09):
might be the way to go.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
Exit out about a Fresca exit swollen dome. The Jason
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See we're solving problems here on a Thursday night. No,
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Speaker 3 (26:26):
I mean, we're here for American for the Globe on
the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
So we're getting set last night of the NBA before
we get set for Team Chuck and Team Kenny and
Team Everybody. This weekend celebrity game is better.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
At least Bailey from the Wwe may put a hurting
on someone if they try to, you know, handcheck too hard.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
I think Frankie Munis might play busy. I hope so
best race.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
Car Driver back for more Malcolm in the Middle. I
mean we get four outisodes. I know, I know, Thank you,
Brian Krantz, than thank you, thank you.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
But we saw today what was a big part of
NBA All Star Weekend last weekend is not going to
be part of it this year, and that is a
Steph Curry sabrinian Escu three point challenge where Steph won
by a couple. There's been a lot of fun trash
talk back and forth. They tried to get this together,
but for some reason they couldn't. In the NBA said hey,
(27:23):
we wanted to make sure we not only did it
as good as last year, we wanted to amp it
up a little bit more and have it be something big.
And I'm like, okay, how could you not do I mean,
it's a big deal, right, it's a big thing. How
could you not wind up agreeing on a way to
do this? People would still watch and then we saw
what they were looking at was potentially trying to get
a two on two three point shooting contents where Steph
(27:46):
would have his partner which could have been Klay Thompson,
and Unescu would have her partner, which could have been
Caitlin Clark. However, she talked about not doing it once
her first time on the court, to be in the
WNABA All Star Game here back in Indiana. And if
this doesn't show you that the biggest star in basketball
(28:08):
is Caitlin Clark, there's nothing else. I don't mean biggest
star in women's basketball. I mean the biggest star in
professional basketball is Caitlyn Clark. A year ago, I told
you she was going to have a Magic and Larry
impact on the WNBA, and I was low on that.
The impact she had on basketball in general was incredible.
The WNBA incredible. When you have a Steph Curry lead event.
(28:30):
Steph Curry is leading this event and you're not gonna
do it because Caitlyn Clark won't do it or can't
do it, What does that really tell you about who
moves the needle of the most in all of sports.
We have a lot of big stars. Yet Lebron's a
big star, right, still a big star as we go
through Luca. We pay so much attention to everything going on.
NBA's got lots of stars. Caitlin Clark is the biggest
(28:51):
star in all of basketball. Whatever she does it is news.
Whatever she touches turns to gold. And I mean a
Steph Curry event, one of the biggest stars in bad
the top five stars in the NBA. Oh no, we're
not having your event because we can't get Caitlin Clark
to do it. What does that really tell you about
who the most powerful, most popular, biggest star in basketball
(29:11):
is men's or women's basketball. It's Kitlin Clark.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
You need better pr You need to really reevaluate how
you're coming and approaching All Star weekends would be the
bigger thing. The blip you got for all the trade
discussions before you know that one fell apart with the Lakers, remember,
because that ended up being bad. Not to mention all
the Nico stuff that's fallen out in Dallas, but all
(29:36):
of that to say, yeah, you've got a bigger problem
because you're not getting proper cooperation from your stars and
you're not able to sell your stars. Caitlyn Clark's appearance
should not be the thing that's determining whether you put
an event on. I'm sorry, I would like to think,
you know, your multi billion international operations should be bigger
(29:59):
than that. So I think you need to have some
really big moments. And if I'm someone who's bought advertising
or I don't know, bought into what was the what.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
Was the cost of the TV package.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
I'd be going to Adam silversoning I want my money back,
because this is crap. A woman who's got nothing to
do with this league won't participate, and you shut her events.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
What the hell am I buying here? I'm telling you
she's the biggest basketball star in the world, but she's
bigger than anything for her.
Speaker 3 (30:28):
Stick to your guns. You said this weeks ago, and
you were hoping for a Hail Mary. If you're the NBA,
what a disaster.
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