I WANT YOUR FLEX - Way-Too-Early Top-60 Fantasy Draft for 2025

It's Fox Sports Radio's official fantasy football podcast! Dan Beyer, Mike Harmon and Ian Roddy run through a full top-60 fantasy football mock draft for the 2025 season! Who's the early favorite to go number one overall? Will there be a bounce back for guys like Christian McCaffrey and Breece Hall? How many rookies could wind up going in the first 60 picks? All that and more on a new I Want Your Flex!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Ladies and Jules.

Speaker 2 (00:01):
You want experience during your football season, Well buckle up,
sweet cheeks. What we've got all the experience in the world.

Speaker 3 (00:12):
This is I want your Flex.

Speaker 2 (00:15):
With Dan Bayer and Mike Harmon. Mike and Dan break
down everything you need to set your lineups, from position rankings.

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To starts and sits.

Speaker 2 (00:24):
The guys help you make those hard decisions and now
let's get your flexod Here's Dan Byer and Mike Harmon.

Speaker 1 (00:33):
Welcome in. It is I want your flex. It is
the off season, but if you play fantasy football, why
not look ahead to next season? Find Mike on Exit
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our executive producer. You can find Ian on ex at
Ian Roddy Underscore. Find him on Blue Guy Ian Dash Roddy.

(00:57):
As we have a tradition, Mike, I think this is
your five of the podcast form Yes, crazy on how
time flies when you're having fun and we've had a great,
great year, but normally what we do and we're going
to do it again today we have our year end draft,
we look ahead to who we think we're going to

(01:18):
be taking in our fantasy football drafts come next August
or early September, depending on when you have your drafts,
or like Mike, sometime in June and July and industry
drafts and whatever. The point being, we're drafting for the
twenty twenty five NFL season. But when we do our
top sixty draft, we don't do it in a way
of lineups. We just do it in a way of
best available and who we would take at that spot.

(01:40):
It's a fun tradition, Mike, and one that I'm looking
forward to continuing.

Speaker 3 (01:44):
Year five. New producer Ian's done a bang up job
for us this year. Great promotion, great getting things together
and making us sound even prettier than we normally do Dan,
So I appreciate him for that. Celebrate the continuity of
the podcast years. Seems like just yesterday, young fresh faced
kids like Ian is now as we started doing these things.

(02:07):
So thanks to you, Ian for all your hard work
this year. Let's go out with a bang.

Speaker 4 (02:12):
Thank you guys, been fun.

Speaker 1 (02:14):
Ian. Because of your hard work, you actually get the
first pick of this draft. Wow. Half point half point PPR.
We're gonna do it that way, kind of split the difference.
Ian's gonna have the first pick, Mike's gonna have the second,
and then I will have the third, and then we're
actually just gonna go in that same order. We're not
drafting teams for ourselves again, We're just drafting best available
players on who you would draft in a fantasy football

(02:36):
draft come next summer, and Ian Roddy, you are on
the clock. By the way, Ian, with your this is
your first No team defense is or IDP. It's just
strictly quarterback, running back, wide receiver, tight end. You're on
the clock at number one.

Speaker 4 (02:53):
And next year's rookies are in play as well.

Speaker 1 (02:56):
Right, that is correct, absolutely, But.

Speaker 5 (02:58):
I'm taking one here. I'm gonna go with the chalk
pick and go with Saquon Barkley. Yeah, I'm actually gonna
run that card up. I really think he's set to repeat,
especially because there's the the stat that no RB one
has repeated as the RB one in a long time.
I can't remember the last time it happened. But luckily

(03:18):
Saquon Barkley was actually not the RB one this year.
That was Jamiir Gibbs, who edged him out in Week eighteen.
So Saquon Barkley can Ken finishes the RB one next
year safely, So I'm taking him.

Speaker 3 (03:30):
I like that logic. You've been You weren't an RB once.
There's no Jinks on you. Yeah, there's no UH, there's
no Fantasy magazine cover. Jinks don't have to worry about it,
kind of digna.

Speaker 1 (03:42):
No hangover, nothing from UH. From the Super Bowl wins.
Saquon goes off the board. Mike, you're up at number two.

Speaker 3 (03:49):
All right? One thing I can trust in all of this.
Whatever they do to try to fix defense, however they
spend the money, Jamar Chase will still be catching balls
from Joe Burrow. So I will take him.

Speaker 1 (04:00):
Jamar Chase goes off the board at number two. Maybe
some question that he could have been number one for
how great he has been in the continuity that Mike
talks about. I am up at number three, and I'm
having a bit of djon vu. I thought in last
year's draft I took him at this point. I can't remember, Mike.
I know I said last year I would probably take
him number one. Yep, But I'm going to take Bjen.

(04:22):
It is yes, unless he heard that before. Yes, it
sounds it sounds the same. Plus he was really nice
in giving my cousin in Iowa a shout out during
Super Bowl Week. Yes, yes, who's the kids a football
fan and h B Jehan was able to just take
ten seconds he and Tyler L Geer and wish my

(04:44):
cousin Carter a happy super Bowl in football season.

Speaker 3 (04:47):
Well, that is a nice bonus there.

Speaker 1 (04:49):
Yeah, yeah, I was glad. I was very, very touched
that he'd be willing to do that. So Jean is
off the board at three, Ian, you're up at number four.

Speaker 5 (04:57):
All right, I'm deciding between two guys here, but I'm
I think I'm gonna go with Jamier Gibbs.

Speaker 4 (05:02):
That's gonna be my pick.

Speaker 5 (05:04):
Obviously he's competing with David Montgomery there, but both of
them were RB ones this year, so I like them
to repeat that. And Gibbs is just so damn explosive.
I'd feel great about having him on my team next year.

Speaker 1 (05:17):
I love how a minute ago, Ian's like, we're not
going to be jinxed by the number one running back.

Speaker 4 (05:21):
Yeah, but here's the thing.

Speaker 1 (05:22):
The number four comes around and it's Jamier Gibbs.

Speaker 5 (05:25):
Here's the thing though, is he he has Montgomery with him,
so he's not someone that you're really drafting thinking he's
going to finish as.

Speaker 4 (05:31):
The number one RB. It's ah.

Speaker 3 (05:35):
And Montgomery stays healthy as long as he does. And
talk to Jason Smith about food stuffs and merchandising and
branding opportunities, all of that to say, you know the
link would both know? Right, we talk about it and
people laugh at us, and I think folks have started
to come around to it. But Dan, you and I,
how long do we talk about cohesiveness and offensive lines

(05:56):
and building your infrastructure to where it's it's a Ronco product?
Forgive the agism here and me showing my age the
set it and forget it right the rotisserie chicken, put
it in, set your timer, go do whatever you need
to do and come back and have a delicious meal.
Same thing here. You can plug and play and go

(06:16):
go run amook thereafter. So even in a split situation,
gibs with the explosiveness. Now the curiosity is all the
coaching changes, but it doesn't mean the philosophy changes at all, right,
judicious in their use. Yeah, I like I like him
a lot.

Speaker 4 (06:33):
That's running back in the league too.

Speaker 3 (06:35):
Arguably, I would almost Yeah, that's that's a fun one.

Speaker 1 (06:41):
I was going to say a different comment than what
than what Ian said. I would have almost considered Gibbs
number one if it wasn't for the jinxing that Ian
put at the top of like you can't have back
to back, But I would I think that for what
he showed when Montgomery was out. And I also think
that the Lions may not be better next year, so
they may actually be needing to continue to have him

(07:05):
on the field. Yeah, in games do they trail?

Speaker 3 (07:07):
I think the other piece to it, you know, from
a fantasy point, and Dan, you and I we've been
doing this a while. I'm basically God, it's a lot
of years at this point, and I've loved them all,
don't get me wrong, but there's still just such a
dearth of running backs, like run going away from top

(07:28):
running backs is difficult, right. I picked Chase just based
on his continuity and where there. I mean, he was
one hundred points higher. And I know we obviously had
one or two real monster games, but we're just talking
about consistency and cohesion with he and Joe Burrow. Joe
Burrow Squeaky Wheel talking about you know, getting guys fed

(07:48):
and whatever. But you know, at the running back position,
what do we get to, like fourteen guys, fifteen guys
something like that had a thousand yard rushing That's not
a huge threshold, right, Those five guys at the top
are just such a separation, whereas with wide receivers we
start seeing that bunch up yep, fairly soon.

Speaker 1 (08:09):
Yes, maybe it starts now, we'll find out. Mike, you're
up at number five.

Speaker 3 (08:13):
See, I'm debating between two guys, and I think I'm
gonna roll the dice that even in a post Johnson era,
I'm on Ross Aint Brown. Is that guy?

Speaker 1 (08:24):
Hmmm, Saint bron Goes. I that's interesting. I wouldn't doubt
him top ten. I did not think him top five,
but maybe to the point of the Lions that we
were talking about as well.

Speaker 3 (08:37):
But talking you know what, like, I'm coming at it
from a PPR perspective yep, and that I'm gonna move
those chains. And regardless of what happens philosophically with Ben
Johnson moving off to Chicago, that I'm on Ross Saint
Brown for the balance of a season is still going
to get fed, and he's quitted himself nicely as a
guy that not despite not having you know, the sick

(09:00):
five frame, can get open and make plays in the
red zone.

Speaker 1 (09:05):
This may this may be a reach. However, if things
turn out a certain way and players go certain places
and you're not sure here they are or where I'm
gonna take mylik Neighbors at six, I like this.

Speaker 4 (09:19):
I like it two dance.

Speaker 1 (09:23):
The fact of if they improve at the quarterback position,
which shouldn't be hard to do after this past year,
and we expect them to really need to address that position,
let's go with let's go with mylik neighbors. So I
think it's just an off the charge talent.

Speaker 5 (09:38):
Yeah, we haven't seen him be bad with with I
mean we've seen him be good with bad quarterback.

Speaker 3 (09:43):
Twelve oh four and seven with whatever that was.

Speaker 1 (09:48):
It's and it gives me justin Jefferson was a name
that I thought of. There are other good wide receivers there,
but it's almost that I feel that the Giants will
address their quarterback position, not necessarily knowing what the Vikings
will do. I mean, I expect it to be jj McCarthy,
but that's just a complete unknown as well, And I
just feel that the Giants will address it one way

(10:10):
or another because they kind of have to, especially after
what Saquon Barkley did to him this past year, Like
you have to fix that position, and Milik Neighbors I
think will end up reaping those benefits. All right, Ian,
you're up at number seven.

Speaker 5 (10:23):
All right, Well, no suspense there. You just mentioned him.
I'm going to take Justin Jefferson, best receiver in the NFL.
Hete you welcome to Team Roddy?

Speaker 1 (10:33):
Are you going to just name every pick best player
you know, best number one player at the position. It's
been back to back, I mean until one receiver.

Speaker 4 (10:41):
Until I dropt one who's not up.

Speaker 1 (10:43):
At number ten, it's going to be number best player
at the position.

Speaker 5 (10:49):
Number He's like, look at my team, I mean, Barkley
and Justin Jefferson.

Speaker 1 (10:55):
Brandon Aubrey, best kicker at the position, come at twelve,
and what's up with that?

Speaker 3 (11:01):
He's better than everybody else? He was the team MVP.

Speaker 1 (11:05):
Yes, all right, but we're already.

Speaker 3 (11:09):
In a tough spot right when we start looking at
situationally and what's next on the board at each of
his positions, it's too early, I think to go down
the QB road at least for me, and you know,
talking my my thinking out here, which is going to
lead me into a strange place of trying to figure

(11:31):
out who that next guy is is all filibustering because
I've got one guy circled, but I don't love him.
It's like, but but I don't love him, and that
and that is I'm gonna end up taking Derrick Henry
here and hating myself for it because it is that
fear of are wet at that point, right when when's

(11:55):
the cliff come? But obviously he was great and defense
is having the key on Lamar Jackson and his legs
certainly helps us there, but doesn't do much for us
in the passing game.

Speaker 1 (12:07):
If it makes you feel any better. I was going
to take him at nine.

Speaker 3 (12:10):
Okay, so I feel better. I feel vindicated. So there
you go.

Speaker 1 (12:14):
At number nine, I'll take Ceedee Lamb. I think good
value at that point.

Speaker 3 (12:19):
Nice.

Speaker 1 (12:20):
The new Little Cowboys with Brian Schottenheimer, expect them to
address the run game. They're going to also have to
address their offensive line with that Zach Martin retirement, although
I don't think that's shocked them. I don't think that
Zach Martin was going to be back either way next season,
but we'll see if Dak Prescott's a healthy Dak Prescott
can continue his connection with Ceedee Lamb, who was somewhat

(12:42):
muted this past season. And you expect better things at
least in twenty twenty five, because couldn't get much worse
than twenty.

Speaker 3 (12:49):
Twenty selectively aggressive, Dan, They're ready, Yes, last.

Speaker 1 (12:55):
Year from all selectively aggressive?

Speaker 3 (12:58):
Yes, what does it mean, Steven, I don't know. My
dad said it and I thought it sounded cool.

Speaker 5 (13:04):
All right, and you're up at number ten, number ten,
I'm gonna take Nico Collins here. He's the number one
receiver for a stretch this season and he's gotten better
every year. I like his quarterback and Stroud, so yeah,
Nico Collins.

Speaker 3 (13:17):
He keeps saying number ones. If it was a drinking game,
I'm under the table already. I appreciate it though, celebrating
greatness and.

Speaker 1 (13:27):
Mike just not to even just give you any time,
because not that you need it. But I'll yeah on
the cap. Saquan Jamar, Chase, John Robinson, Jamier Gibbs, I'm
on Ross Saint Brown, Malik Neighbors, Justin Jefferson, Derrick Henry,
Ceedee Lamb, and Nico Collins are first ten picks.

Speaker 3 (13:42):
And those are off off and pacing as we go.
As we get to the next I'm gonna hope that
the connection continues, and I'm gonna go bold and think
that I can get some greatness out of Terry McLaurin.

Speaker 1 (13:58):
Ah. I like that.

Speaker 3 (14:00):
Maybe a little bit too optimistic, but you know, they
retain their their coaching staff, nobody left Jay's greener pastures.
I don't expect from a win loss perspective, as we've
talked about in the past, that necessarily it plays out
with a bunch of these late wins. But I don't
care about winning. I'm caring about being able to put

(14:22):
points on the board. And I gotta think Jayden Daniels
still has some magic left to uncover here, and I
think they continue to build that receiving core around him.
So I'll take McLaurin there.

Speaker 1 (14:33):
I am a sucker for running backs guys like I
truly am. You wouldn't necessarily know it. With my first
they are my last two picks of being wide receivers.
But if I'm on the fence. I usually fall into
the running back world, and I'm gonna do it here.
I know there are wide receivers on the board, but
I'm going to go Josh Jacobs. I not that he's

(14:56):
in the Derrick Henry camp, but gosh, you meant a
lot the packers and he at If Green Bay doesn't
address their wide receivers, I think you're gonna get a
lot of Josh Jacobs again. So I'll take Josh Jacobs
at twelve.

Speaker 3 (15:09):
I sent giant buckets of stick them to account for
all the drops they had this year.

Speaker 1 (15:15):
And they're gonna have They're gonna they have to upgrade
that wide receiver corps. How they do it and where
they do it will be interesting.

Speaker 3 (15:22):
I just bring back DeVante Adams.

Speaker 1 (15:24):
Yeah, there you go. It could be.

Speaker 3 (15:25):
I'm a problem solver.

Speaker 1 (15:27):
All right, and you're up at number thirteen.

Speaker 4 (15:30):
Uh, pooka Akua.

Speaker 5 (15:31):
We've seen what a top receiver can do in Sean
mcvay's offense, and no more. Cooper cup in theory is
going to be there next year. So obviously we don't
know who's going to be under center for them, but
whoever it is, I feel good with mcvaghy and the
coach and Nikua catch and passes.

Speaker 3 (15:46):
So I love it, and.

Speaker 1 (15:48):
Especially if Stafford does return, which I know right now
as we do this it doesn't sound likely, but still
there's that possibility that he could be back.

Speaker 4 (15:56):
And if he's going to be back, there even better
in that case.

Speaker 1 (15:58):
It's yeah, it's a great value at number thirteen.

Speaker 3 (16:02):
I just like the hey go into the marketplace and
test right. It's a mutated version of the Saquon Barkley
of a year ago. Sure, but also you know there's
a number of teams that are just desperate. It's like,
all right, let's get a bidding war started. Go ahead.
So that's the sense.

Speaker 1 (16:19):
Yeah, that's the sense that I got. And then the
other sense I got was to the Rams know something
that we don't sure for them willing to, I mean,
because they went ten and seven this year, won the division,
took the Eagles to the wire and the divisional playoffs.
They've overpaid before for guys. They threw money. That's what
they did earlier in the less need la era, and

(16:41):
it worked out they would just bring guys in and
worry about it later. I'm just surprised that they're being
finicky when it comes to Stafford, So I agree with
you in that thought.

Speaker 3 (16:50):
Made me wondering, if you know the they're towards the end,
maybe they are tired of stuff. I think McVeigh saying, hey,
we're going to need a decision fast really played because
you saw how slow they were getting out of the gate.
And I know they had injuries to start the season
and they're missing some guys, but that's when you expect
Stafford to carry you. And he didn't mean they lost

(17:11):
the Bears for crying out loud. Okay, all right, there
you go. I enough of that. All right. With that said,
I'm gonna stay and take another ram. I'm gonna take
Kyon Williams monster year this year, thirty four catches to
go with it, thirteen hundred rushing yards, fourteen touchdowns. Whether

(17:34):
it's Stafford or Sam Darnold or Rogers or whoever the
hell walks through the door, the offense will still go
through Kyen Williams.

Speaker 1 (17:43):
I'm up at number fifteen and the player that I
was just most shocked with how well he performed and
where his performance was in regards to the rest of
the National Football League. I'm gonna take him here, give
me Brian Thomas, Brian Thomas Junior. I don't want Brian
Thomas Senior. Brian Thomas Junior.

Speaker 3 (18:02):
Nicely done. You know what, that's the other guy was
deciding between between him and Williams. But again, you know,
we posited a theory. If you're the RAMS, do you
talk to your former guys that worked for you under
Sean McVay and try to get Trevor Lawrence out to LA.
It's in the podcast Smith and I just having some
fun with that.

Speaker 1 (18:22):
I just don't know what the RAMS plan would be,
but it seems Brian Thomas's plan in Jacksonville is just
to get a lot of yards and touchdowns and people
don't know about it. There was a point later in
the year, it was probably week fifteen, and I saw
stat that he was second in the AFC and receiving
yards and I'm like, what it was? It was crazy.
Obviously Jamar Chase was number one, but to be second

(18:45):
at that point and then when you look at what
is his numbers ended up finishing across the board an
impressive year for the now second year guys. We look
ahead A wide receiver out of LSU all right, Ian,
you're up at number sixteen.

Speaker 5 (18:57):
Al Right, I'm deciding between two guys, but for the
sake of sticking to the bit, I'm gonna take Brock Bowers.

Speaker 3 (19:02):
Got pluss America.

Speaker 5 (19:05):
Gotta take the top guy at his position just to here. Yeah,
So brock Bowers. God, he was so good as a
rookie and that's only going to get better. So love
welcoming him to my team.

Speaker 1 (19:18):
All right, Bowers, the first head end off the board.

Speaker 3 (19:21):
Way to stick to the bit. I'm gonna go back
and take a young receiver, had himself a big year,
a signing between him and a running back. Hopefully the
running back is still there when we come back around.
I'm gonna take Drake London. Michael Pennix Junior, come in
and start all guns blazing. Let's go one hundred catches,
twelve seventy one and nine in a very weird season

(19:44):
for the Falcons. We can do better.

Speaker 1 (19:47):
There are a bunch of names at eighteen, some guys
that are higher up the board, other guys that are lower.
I'm going to kind of go in the middle of
who I would consider. Give me Devana Channer right now,
all right, number eighteen, the boomer bust that we thought
entering the draft proved to be the guy in Miami.

(20:07):
Raheem Mostert did have had no effect this year, and
he's not returning next year, and so I think it's
the eight Chan show. And who knows what happens in
Miami with Tyreek Hill, even though now he wants to
be a dolphin, will go eight Chan at number eighteen?

Speaker 5 (20:23):
All right, right, nineteen, I'm gonna take Jonathan Taylor here.
He was a beast down the stretch, just run behind
Quentin Nelson, and I feel good about where things will
take him. So Jonathan's any good strategy?

Speaker 1 (20:36):
One of the guys I was considering when I took
eight Chan, it was Jonathan Taylor. All right, Mike, final
pick in this segment number twenty.

Speaker 3 (20:43):
What's he running back? Run? Do I take the guy
that I've championed for years, or do I find a
new guy to get excitable about. I'll take the new guy.
Bucky Irving?

Speaker 1 (20:55):
All right?

Speaker 3 (20:57):
Even yards shing plus another three ninety two receiving forty
seven catches out of the backfield.

Speaker 1 (21:06):
Let's go twenty picks in one tight end, no quarterbacks,
everything else running max and wide receivers. When will that
first QB go off the board and will Ian take
him so he can have another number one at the position.
So many questions yet to answer. He is Mike Carmen,
that's Ian Roddy. I'm Dan Beyer. Picks twenty one through

(21:26):
forty next year on I Want Your Flex, resuming our
top sixty draft of twenty twenty five. A quick review
of what we've done in the first twenty picks. It
was Saquon Barkley, Jamar Chase b John Robinson, Jamier Gibbs,
I'm on Russ Saint Brown. That was your top five.
Then Malik Nighbors went, followed by Justin Jefferson, Derrick, Henry,

(21:48):
Ceedee Laman, Nico Collins, the next ten, Terry McLaurin, Josh Jacobs,
Puka Nikua, Karen Williams, Brian Thomas, Junior Brock Bauers, Drake London,
the Von eighth, Chan, Jonathan Taylor, and Bucky Irving. He's
my Karmen, I'm Dan Pyer. That's Ian Roddy. Let's get
right to it, guys. I'm up at pick number twenty one.
A lot of time to think about this, I know

(22:08):
aj Brown is still there. There is not a chance
and you know what that I am taking aj Brown
at any point. So why not make this, I don't
know a little bit interesting. Let's take a rookie off
the board. Let's go Ashton Genty as my pick number
twenty one. You're looking at running backs in the draft.
There could be a bunch of them that people love,

(22:30):
but Genty could be a top fifteen pick. Dallas Cowboys
a possible destination for him. And if that's the case,
especially with Schottenheimer's the head coach, I think you're gonna
see a big workload. So I'm taking Ashton Genty at
number twenty one.

Speaker 4 (22:43):
That's tough.

Speaker 5 (22:44):
I'm a sucker for a good rookie and that that
would have been my pick there. I love genty legs, baby,
let's go seriously, it doesn't even matter where he ends up.

Speaker 4 (22:51):
He's going to be a stud.

Speaker 5 (22:52):
But but he's gone, so you going to go ahead
and take I'm gonna go James Cook here another running back.
But other great year for Buffalo and they really bluff.
They started to really commit to the run game there.
So with him being set for a contract, I think
they will pay him. Whether it's that. What did he
say he want fifteen Yeah? Actually I don't know about that,

(23:13):
especially with the draft class being so loaded. But regardless that,
I do think he's going to get a contract from
the Bills, and yeah, they're going to continue committing to
the run game.

Speaker 1 (23:23):
I am so curious on how this plays out. But
I completely get why James Cook did it, Like at
this point, now is the time to do it. If
you can't do it, maybe maybe they will give you
fifteen million, who knows, if you ask for it. I
totally get it. I just don't think it's necessarily realistic.
But I am curious on how this whole plays out.
To Ian's point about the draft class and if Buffalo

(23:45):
does spend that money, Mike and I have said we're
on record for saying we think Buffalo should invest that
money in defense. If they give it to Cook, I'm
curious to see some of their other decisions.

Speaker 3 (23:56):
You need some defense work, You need another wide receiver?

Speaker 1 (23:59):
Yeah, man, yes, you wait.

Speaker 3 (24:01):
Wishing and hoping that Knox and Kincaid are suddenly going
to be world beaters and stay healthy for a full
seventeen Yeah, is not a way to way to build
a squad.

Speaker 1 (24:10):
Yeah, and I would honestly say that I think Kincaid's
been a bit of a disappointment.

Speaker 3 (24:13):
I would agree with tone for what.

Speaker 1 (24:15):
For what we've had. I think we expect Keon Coleman
to take that next level, and we like what Chakir does,
but absolutely they need they need somebody else there as
well to be legit. All right, Mike, you're up at
number twenty three.

Speaker 3 (24:25):
Yeah, part of me wants to break Ian's streak, but
I mean it's just too good a bit.

Speaker 1 (24:32):
I felt the same way.

Speaker 3 (24:33):
It's just too good a bit. I'm gonna look and
go out. Look, he's old, but he still gets it done.
Actually know what I'm I'm gonna flop those because I
have two guys lined up together. Uh, and they're actually
lined up in terms of what they were able to
achieve this year. I'm gonna expect more from bow Nicks
in Courtland's Sunton.

Speaker 1 (24:52):
Wow, this is I'm going bold. I like it. That
is bold. That is really bold.

Speaker 3 (25:01):
Get a little more consistency in the run game. They
need to address that right to have that bell Coow guy.
But you're looking at an eighty catch eighty one over
one thousand with eight touchdowns, with Nicks really not being
allowed to do a whole hell of a lot until
about week nine. Right early on, it seemed like there

(25:24):
was a battle there and going between Sean Payton and
he to where it's like, wow, this is even gonna work.
By the end of the season, they're, you know, like
brothers in arms, right, they that they've figured it out
and pulling the strings. I can't wait to see what
they do for a year or two.

Speaker 1 (25:38):
I this is a bit of a reach, but I
think anybody that would be maybe around this area or
start to be in this area when you're seeing certain names,
I think that this is a name that's probably going
to be overdrafted some and I will I will be
gladly be wrong about this. But Christian McCaffrey at number

(25:59):
twenty and just I know there you put him on
an overall ranking and he's not anywhere really near this point.
He's actually further down. But I just think when you
get into the draft process, when you're looking at some
of the names that we're looking at, and what do
we do do this and try not to name other
names to put other names out there. Sure, but when

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you're looking at at the names that are available. At
this point, you're thinking to yourself, Man, if he does
or if they if they do turn it around, or
if it was just the off year, which I don't
think it was. I think you're starting to see a
bit of their demise. But still I'd rather just roll
the dice and go see themc here at number twenty.

Speaker 3 (26:38):
Four overall, Oh I like that.

Speaker 5 (26:40):
All right, this is where I'll take Josh Allen number
one quarterback last year. Gonna hope he repeats this year.
Just the throwing, the running, He's the whole package. So
give me some Josh Allen.

Speaker 1 (26:51):
All right, good pick. There was there any debate on
which quarterback or was it?

Speaker 3 (26:56):
No?

Speaker 1 (26:57):
For sure?

Speaker 4 (26:57):
If I'm going quarterback here, it's allan Yeah.

Speaker 3 (27:01):
Ready, let's get a little bit nuts. Trey McBride. I'm
going to pile up receptions because that's all they can do.

Speaker 1 (27:12):
Yeah. Oh that's great. Yeah, why why not Trey McBride
is off the board. Yeah, I'll tell you of the
tight end positions, and you'd have to think that I
know he got his tight ends, that there is this
touchdown street who's ended at the end of the year.
Should I have the other one against the Rams cost

(27:33):
the Seahawks of the division and in a playoff spot. Actually,
but when you look at the tight end position, you know,
the port was such a disappointment. We just talked about McCaffrey.
I mean, how long is Kittle going to be able
to continue to put up numbers like this? Uh? Yeah,
I am. I'm completely down with the Trey McBride pick.

Speaker 3 (27:53):
I just have to figure that you you also can't
have that heavier usage and not see more zone success.
And I know James Connor is a monster. Not to
name drop guys, but since we're on the team, it's
you know, you're you're not going to get shut out
like that again, I can't imagine.

Speaker 1 (28:12):
And I'm not going to be taking James Connor at anybody.
Well there you go at least ten picks, you know.

Speaker 3 (28:16):
Well, we talked again about guys where he was like,
well will the wheels fall?

Speaker 1 (28:20):
Yeah? Absolutely all right. I'm I'd like to pull the
trigger on a couple of other guys, but I am
going to go Lamar Jackson here. I just think it's
good value. I'll take the second quarterback. I'll take Lamar
Jackson off the board at twenty seven.

Speaker 5 (28:34):
I just we're staying away from aj Brown like he's
Voldemort's I think I have to take him here, you
said the name?

Speaker 4 (28:41):
Do you know who? Sorry?

Speaker 5 (28:44):
But yeah, now he's slid so far. This is like
the steal of the draft so far. I feel like
he's one of the best receivers in the league.

Speaker 3 (28:51):
No, I dig that.

Speaker 1 (28:53):
I don't I.

Speaker 4 (28:55):
A Brown.

Speaker 1 (28:57):
Yeah, he'll read a book. Hold, there's no way. There's
no way I'm taking them, absolutely, no way. So I'm
glad you did it.

Speaker 4 (29:04):
More for me.

Speaker 3 (29:04):
Oh no, it was going to be another two rounds.
I had him circle, but I wasn't. I was waiting
for one of you to take it.

Speaker 5 (29:11):
So are you predicting a drop off, Mike or you
just didn't want to just didn't want to touch them.

Speaker 3 (29:16):
Well, I'm concerned with just the passing game overall, in
terms of its fluidity. Right, they did a lot this
year with I mean, Goddard missed a ton of time.
So he comes back in and he's going to leach
into the passing. Passing numbers which aren't robust to begin with. Right,
Jalen Hurts value primarily comes off as squatting six hundred

(29:38):
pounds right, high, packers high, Mike, Mark Murphy, it ain't
going anywhere. But it's the idea that you know, you've
got DeVante Smith, you got Dallas Goddard, he got the
Rebecks and then it hurts with his legs that it
mutes his value.

Speaker 5 (29:55):
Yeah, well we know if he doesn't get his targets,
he's going to complain about it.

Speaker 3 (29:59):
So no, no, go to read this book. Yeah, yeah, sorry,
and when things go well, that's right, I do dig
the mannequin. Did you see that?

Speaker 1 (30:06):
Dan?

Speaker 3 (30:07):
Yes, I kind of dig that. I would be a
guy that would do that. Here's a bunch of my
costumes or uniforms. I don't know I'm that guy.

Speaker 1 (30:17):
It's I tried to give aj Brown the benefit of
the doubt, and then forty eight hours after the Super
Bowl he proved me right with my initial thinking. So yes,
I'm not down anyway. Mike, you're up at number twenty nine.

Speaker 3 (30:33):
I don't know where he's playing. I'm going to go
back to the well with the wide receiver and go
with T Higgins.

Speaker 1 (30:40):
That is the question, right, is he a number one?

Speaker 3 (30:43):
And is he a number one?

Speaker 1 (30:44):
Like?

Speaker 3 (30:44):
That's questions. Yes, now he obviously acquitted himself nicely in
Jamar Chase's absence on a short term basis, but he
also still had Joe Burrow spinning it.

Speaker 1 (30:55):
So maybe Green Bay maybe, and then'll lesson the Josh
Jacobs sary. Who knows. We shall see. There is a
There are a couple of veteran wide receivers that I
see on the board that I just I really would
like to I'd like to stick with, But you mentioned Cincinnati, Mike,
I'm gonna stick with that. Can me Chase Brown? He

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asserted himself as the main guy in that Cincinnati backfield
the second half of the year. I think there are
some other wide receivers that will be available, and it's
two picks away from me picking another wide receiver. There
are enough there. I'd rather have Chase Brown than maybe
some of the other guys that I'd be willing to

(31:38):
lose out on. So I'll take him at number thirty.
And that allows me to then recap our first ten
year of this second our second segment here, Ashton gent
T twenty one, James Cook twenty two, Courtland Sutton twenty three,
Christian McCaffrey went twenty four. Then Josh Allen, Trey McBride,
Lamar Jackson, AJ Brown at twenty eight, T Higgins and
Chase Brown. Ian You're up at thirty one.

Speaker 5 (32:00):
On maybe a bit of a homer pick here. It
is a bit of a homer pick here, but I'm
gonna take Brecee Hall. He was a top three pick
in most leagues this past season and then he disappointed
big time. But the difference here is he's not going
to have Nathaniel Hackett as his offensive coordinator, so that's
gonna give him a boost right off the bat. And
I think whoever, I mean not whoever I know their

(32:22):
new offensive coordinators, Tanner Engstrand. I think he, if he's smart,
he'll know that Breeze is a really good pass catch
or something Hackett never really figured out. So if if
Engstrand can figure that out and scheme up a lot
of passes for Breece Hall, I think he's gonna be
a PPR machine next year.

Speaker 1 (32:38):
All Right, bres Hall off the board, solid pick there
at thirty one. Mike, you're up at thirty two.

Speaker 3 (32:45):
He's going to be the last guy standing. Give me
a Smith and Jigba.

Speaker 1 (32:49):
Oh dang it, that's who I would have taken. Oh man,
that's who I wanted at thirty three.

Speaker 3 (32:57):
But you want to trade, well, give me your thirty three.

Speaker 1 (33:00):
And uh well you'll hear the You'll hear the because
I'm going to take wide receiver next. But the guys
I was debating when I was taking there was JSN,
Chase Brown and someone else. But yeah, great, no. You
see now there's a lot of DK Metcalf talked this offseason,
and there's two conversations happening in Seattle. There's a contingent

(33:23):
of the Seahawk fans that say we should trade DK
Metcalf and then there's the other half of it. It's like,
how do you maximize DK Metcalf because he hasn't been
over the last couple of years. So that's what's going
to be on Clint Kubiak's table. And I think that
that JSN and Gino Smith and Gino Smith will be
back as their quarterback. It's a kind of a set

(33:44):
it and forget it. I mean the way that he
emerged this season. The work is going to be to
get that offensive line of that running game going and
figuring out away for DK. But the JSN Geno connection
is already in place. G No, g No, so the
wide receiver that I was a baiting on when I
ended up taking Chase Brown at number thirty. We talk

(34:06):
about cliffs guys. At some point, it's gonna be there,
but I just don't know where. I mean, Mike Evans
still got a thousand yards and he missed four games
because of a hamstring injury. I know they needed to
don the last play of their regular season, but give
me Mike Evans as a pick at number thirty three.
We'll go with the old guy instead of the young guns.

Speaker 5 (34:28):
Yeah, especially because you don't know if Godwin will be
there next year. It's interesting. I'm gonna go with Lad McConkey,
just justin Herbert, who we know is a great quarterback,
and it's gonna be an offense that we expect big
things from next year. He's the top target there, and
Herbert's gonna pepper him with targets because who else do
they have? Quentin Johnston? Yeah, I mean, whoever they had.

Speaker 3 (34:52):
If they bring a guy in in free agent.

Speaker 5 (34:53):
Trigging that too, but I think whatever they do, there's
gonna be a ramp up period for whoever's next, and
it's just hard for me to see who whoever it
is overtaking Maconkie. Just the connection that he had with
Herbert this year as a rookie.

Speaker 4 (35:04):
Just yeah, I love it.

Speaker 1 (35:06):
All right, Mike, you're up at thirty five.

Speaker 3 (35:08):
All right, this is on the assumption that you know
they all listen to the podcast and all the yelling
that we do here at Fox Sports Radio, and I'm
going down to the planet Houston. I'm look, Joe Mixon
is a guy that Yeah, I'll just leave that and
people can fill in the blanks with Joe Mixon's history.

(35:29):
But that offensive line was awful and he's still achieved
to that level this year. One thousand yards, eleven touchdowns,
thirty six catches for another three h nine. Yeah, he's
a workhorse and a beast, and that offense will be
better in year three of Stroud.

Speaker 1 (35:47):
I don't know, did you guys hear the story that
the Texans are looking in at a new stadium? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (35:52):
I did.

Speaker 1 (35:52):
Like this.

Speaker 3 (35:53):
It's crazy, right.

Speaker 1 (35:54):
This is nuts. I know. Ian, You're born in two thousand,
so you don't remember when the Texans came in of
the league.

Speaker 4 (36:00):
Now I'm barely older than them. As a franchise.

Speaker 1 (36:02):
Yes, yes, yes, and them looking for a new stadium
is just or at the possibility at least opening talks
soft launch. Pretty crazy to think of, but now that's
the reality that we're in and we haven't had any
real new stadiums since so far an Allegiant. We'll have
Buffalo's new stadium in twenty six in Nashville being built

(36:24):
after that as well, But they have the Houston Texans
looking at a new, possible new facility for them, the
NRG Stadium. I don't know if you guys ever been
to Houston, just completely dwarfs the astronome and it's it's
you know, I'm glad that the astronom is still standing.
That didn't tear it down. But anyway, out of Houston

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we go, and maybe a new stadium being built for
the Washington Commanders and that can be the home of
Jaden daniels career for the latter part of it. Give
me Jayden Daniels here at number thirty six, our third
quarterback off.

Speaker 4 (36:58):
The board again.

Speaker 5 (36:59):
I was thinking about going with him, just the rushing
upside he has, but he sniped him.

Speaker 1 (37:04):
Dan so well, there's a couple of guys that are
that are remaining that I just I just don't trust
and I'd rather go with that upside of of Jayden
Daniels at this point.

Speaker 5 (37:14):
Yeah, fair enough. Then I'm gonna go with Jalen Hurts.
I I'm just gonna try and capital because, like you said, Mike,
the touch push it's not going anywhere, sorry, Green Bay.
So I'm gonna try and capitalize on those. Hurts is
good for double digit rushing touchdowns every year just because
of the touch push. So I'm gonna go ahead and
capitalize on that.

Speaker 1 (37:34):
Jalen Hurts, all right, Mike here that yeah, all right.

Speaker 3 (37:40):
This is where it's like, all right, do we do
the quarterback run and just be done with it because
there's a couple of guys still on the board that
are moderately are very interesting at this slot. The running
back position to me is kind of anah, and there's
there's not a name that truly there because one guy

(38:03):
would just be a reach because I just love him
and I just show my I show my ass if
I if I picked him here. So I'm not gonna
do that, So I will stay with the quarterback round.
Then I'll take Burrow. I picked every Bengal. Alright, like
I picked them all and including former Bengals.

Speaker 1 (38:22):
Yes, Chase except Chase Brown, and then I got it
j s n Yeah, so yeah, that's that's you can
get collins Worth coming up in the next round.

Speaker 3 (38:31):
Can you raise a horse for me again.

Speaker 1 (38:33):
James James Brooks, maybe nicely, don't. I'm gonna take one
for the team. I'm just gonna take one for the team.
I'm gonna get it out of there and then we
don't have to worry about it. Tyree Kill. Okay, I'm
just I'm just gonna I'm gonna do that so we
don't it doesn't keep falling, and then we do sixty pigs.

(38:54):
And nobody took Tyreek Kill because nobody wants to. I
think we all have the same concerns. We don't necessarily
trust it. We're not great believers in Miami. But I
will just take Tyreek Hill at this point just to
get him off the board. Tyreek Kill at thirty nine.

Speaker 3 (39:08):
Gary gentleman and a scholar.

Speaker 1 (39:09):
Well, all right, and you have the last pick of
this segment.

Speaker 5 (39:14):
Another Homer pick. I'm gonna take Garrett Wilson again. He's
gonna be a beneficiary of an improved offense without Nathaniel Hackett,
and also just who else do they have. They're losing
DeVante Adams probably, with Rogers on the way out, They're
losing Alan Lazard probably. It's just there's just no one
else there. He's just gonna get peppered with targets.

Speaker 3 (39:34):
The question is who's slinging it?

Speaker 5 (39:35):
Yeah, I mean that is the question. But we've seen
with other guys like Malik Neighbors this past year it
doesn't always matter. Like if you're just the only guy
there with talent, you're gonna find PPR points, You're gonna
find Fantasy points. So give me Garrett Wilson.

Speaker 1 (39:48):
We all kind of knew who's gonna go in the
top twenty. We didn't know who was gonna go where.
Twenty one through forty now is where the fun really starts.
Forty one through sixty our final twenty picks of what
we I think the draft could look like in August.
He's Mike Carmen. That's Ian Roddy. I'm Dan Byer. Our
final twenty picks next here, and I want your flex.

(40:12):
Forty one through sixty should be fun. He's Mike Carmen.
I'm Dan Byer. That's Ian Roddy. If you forgot our
previous picks, Ashton Genty, James Cook, Cortland Sutton, Christian McCaffrey,
Josh Allen, Trey Mcbridemar Jackson, A J. Brown, T. Higgins,
Chase Brown, Bresol, Jackson Smith, A Jigma, Mike Evans, Lad Mcconckey,
Joe Mixon, Jaden Daniels, Jalen Hurts, Joe Burrow, Tyreek Killing,

(40:34):
Garrett Wilson. There's twenty one through forty. Mike, you are
up at number forty one.

Speaker 3 (40:38):
Well, only appropriate Ian has announced a couple by either
his number one bit or here's my homer pick. I'm
wearing a backwards Bears hat as I sit here. I'll
take DJ Moore.

Speaker 1 (40:52):
Solid wide receiver as long as he's not running off
the field and no, that's turning.

Speaker 3 (40:56):
Yep, you got that ninety eight for what nine to
sixty six creeping towards double digit touchdowns. But I agree
with you there. There were certainly a lot of questions
towards the back end of the year in terms of
how happy he was, and we'll see how that plays out.

Speaker 1 (41:15):
I am sitting there at number forty two, I am
gonna take George Kittle at this point if rock Perty
is back, huge boost. I don't know how much Deebo
Samuel leaving will affect, because I do think Juwan Jennings,
Ricky piersall other guys that we saw step up for
the Niners. But Kittle does have his piece in the

(41:38):
offense can be successful and if he stays healthy, good
spot at ten end. And I'll take George Kittle at forty.

Speaker 3 (41:44):
Two, always a favorite, especially if nothing else He'll give
someone a back body drop WWE style.

Speaker 1 (41:53):
Yeah. At forty three forty.

Speaker 5 (41:54):
Three, I'm gonna take Marvin Harrison Junior. He's still one
of the best receiver prospects in recent memory. I expect
him to have a big jump forward this year considering
how underwhelming his rookie year was, which that's greatly exaggerated
by the way. It's not like he had a bad
rookie year. It just wasn't anywhere near the standard that
he'd set for himself with his college career. But I
think he solidifies himself as Kyler's favorite target this year.

Speaker 1 (42:19):
All right, Marvin Harrison Junior off the board. Our second
tod just got an email.

Speaker 3 (42:25):
Ah, yeah, as did I. Mine leaked very narrowly. I
caught it right before it came at midnight, flip.

Speaker 1 (42:36):
I think that was our second cardinal off the board
Mike ed Drey McBride earlier, Marvin Harrison. Now off the
board here at forty three. Mike, you're in at forty four.

Speaker 3 (42:44):
At forty four, I will go and take a little
bit of a price shot, hoping for full health and
maybe a return to the offense we maybe anticipated for
this year. Give me the return to Rashi Rice.

Speaker 1 (43:04):
Yeah. I have so many questions about the Chiefs, and
you almost have to wonder too. At some point, are
they like, Okay, we need to get this offense better.
This needs to be this needs to be more of
a well oiled machine like they had in the past.
Za if you're worthy the big, the Big Super Bowl,
We'll see how Rashie Rice transitions. Obviously, Travis Kelcey's future

(43:27):
is in question. I don't think we're going to see
Travis Kelcey in this draft by any means. But yeah,
I am on board with a Chiefs at least refresher
if you will. Gosh, a lot of wide receiver guys
that I'm looking at and I'm almost just like just
to the essence of like, Okay, I can get that guy.
Maybe a little bit later. I'll go to David Montgomery here.

Speaker 3 (43:49):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (43:49):
I felt last year there were spots in the draft
where I wanted to take David Montgomery, and I felt
that he was going to fall to me. And he
never fell to me in any of this that I wanted.
So I'll take him here and just lock it up again.
I have the same questions about the lines that we
talked about with Jamiir Gibbs, but I'll take Montgomery at

(44:11):
forty five.

Speaker 5 (44:12):
Here's a new name to the NFL. I'm gonna take
Omary in Hampton, who's about to be a rookie.

Speaker 4 (44:16):
Again.

Speaker 5 (44:16):
We don't know where he's going to be drafted to.
We'll find that out in April when the draft happens.
But this guy's enormous. He's fast, he's physical, and just
a fun fact here, he was benching, not benching, he
was squatting five hundred pounds as a high schooler. So
this guy is the real deal. He's tough, runner, physical.

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Wherever he ends up, I feel pretty confident he might
even be a first round pick.

Speaker 1 (44:40):
So running back out of North Carolina goes at number
forty six.

Speaker 3 (44:44):
Never skip leg day, No, no, sir, should have hung around.
He can hung out with Belichick for a year. Come on, no,
I'm just kidding.

Speaker 1 (44:51):
Interesting that Ian goes the young route. It is always
fun to take a nice young running back, the Ashton Genty.
You filled your You filled your void of Ashton Genty
missing out on him.

Speaker 4 (45:03):
Yeah, I was sad I missed out on him. I
need the rookie, Mike.

Speaker 1 (45:06):
You're up at forty seven.

Speaker 3 (45:08):
I dig it all right as we look at it.
You took David Montgomery, who's you know, one of the
man crushes of many years for yours truly and still
remain a big fan. I'm gonna stay with the same squad.
I'm gonna take Jameson Williams cameo again, a guy that

(45:30):
at times they're like, all right, man, come on, just
just stick with the plan. Ye's not always going to
be about you keep your head. We see how defensive
backs can get after him a bit, and hopefully there
there's some learning and some growing up in that regard.
But it's an offense. Even with Johnson going like we've
talked about a bunch that you've got so much talent there.

(45:53):
Now it's just a matter of week to week because
we're drafting season long, week to week. He's gonna be
a guy that's going to frustrate the hell out of you,
but you're gonna have some massive weeks.

Speaker 1 (46:02):
So all right. Jamison Williams comes off the board at
number forty seven. Gosh, there are a lot of names
that I feel I could drop some that could be there.
I don't know if DK Metcalf's going to be there again.
For me, I wasted my I thought I could get
JSN to drop, he didn't. I'm not gonna do that

(46:25):
with another Seahawks. Give me DK at number forty eight.
Despite all of the conversation about him that I talked
about earlier.

Speaker 3 (46:31):
It's still a monster. I mean, when when targeted, when
things are going right and you've echoed it and said
it with you know, the squad you followed there, the
Seahawks Dan, you know, they had a lot of issues
and now it's just all right, how do you get
back on the right path? I mean, we talk about
this guy's physical skills every year. It's like, just feed him.

Speaker 1 (46:54):
Yeah, Heed him. The pieces are there for Seattle. They
just have to get people to block. And if that
takes takes shape, I think that they'll they'll be all
right and you'll see some of these guys reaping the
rewards of that. All right, Ian, you're up at number
forty nine.

Speaker 5 (47:10):
All right, I'm scared of the drop off coming. Could
be playing with fire here, but I'm gonna take Alvin
Kamara just we have yet to see him actually drop off.
The production was still there last year, so I'm gonna
just bet that that continues. He's got the pass catching,
he's got the rushing. So Kimmi Kamara.

Speaker 1 (47:28):
We start in the fifties. Mike, you're up at number fifty.

Speaker 3 (47:33):
Don't know who's throwing on the ball. Hell, I don't
know where he's going to be. It's a former Jet
DeVante Adams.

Speaker 1 (47:44):
Yeah. I'm curious on the Saints and if they've I
don't think the Saints have hit rock bottom. I've told
you my arch Manning theory. I think that rock bottom
will come at some point this year. I'm curious about
the future of the Vonte Adams still think he's got something,
But you also look at the other wide receivers there

(48:05):
or that are available. If Devanta Adams goes to a team,
he's going to be WR one. It's just it's that's
the fact of the matter. The guys that are out
there now that we're talking about, I think we're talking
about a lot of WR twos on their teams, and
if you are a WR one, maybe you don't know
who your quarterback is. So I can see that with
Devanta Adams, even though we don't know exactly where he's

(48:27):
going to end up. All right, speaking of WR twos, man,
this is a tough one because I don't know who
their quarterback is going to be. But I do think, well,
actually I do know who their quarterback is going to be.
Actually said this earlier in the podcast. We just don't
know how that quarterback is going to perform. I'm going

(48:49):
to take Jordan Adison of the Minnesota Vikings. Okay, I
don't think he was just a product of Darnold that
he was a first round pick obviously coming from pitt
to USC to the NFL, But I think he's showed
out on his own. If they're if JJ McCarthy is
as good as the Vikings hope he is, they could
continue these these ways, but I'll take that WR two
at number fifty fifty one.

Speaker 5 (49:10):
Excuse me, all right, a little little bit of a
risk here, but I'm gonna take ken Walker the third.
He's he's great, obviously, Dan, you know that better than
any of us. But I'm obviously.

Speaker 1 (49:19):
Scared about it in games he plays, Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 (49:22):
Exactly well, And I'm scared.

Speaker 5 (49:24):
I'm scared of Zach Sharboney because I really loved him
coming out of college and he actually did take a
big step forward last year. So scared he might start
eating into ken Walker's carries. But we have seen when
ken Walker plays, he's he's damn good. So I want
him on my fantasy team.

Speaker 1 (49:40):
You're absolutely right, and yeah, if he could just stay healthy,
I just I don't know if that's the case. But
Kenneth Walker the third of fifty two is not bad value.
All right, Mike, you're up at fifty three.

Speaker 3 (49:53):
Don't know who's slinging it. I'm gonna go back down
to the big easy. I'm gonna take Chris Alave mm hmm.
The answer is, I don't know. I think they'd like
it to be anybody but Derek Carr. But we'll see right,
new coaching staff, new change out, but a guy who's
an elite receiver when he's healthy and ready to go.

Speaker 1 (50:13):
I don't know how I can deny the numbers after this,
and quarterback is obviously up in the air for what
they're going to do. But if Jerry Judy could continue
to do what he did, I think getting him at
fifty four would be spectacular.

Speaker 3 (50:30):
Pretty crazy, right, yeah?

Speaker 1 (50:32):
Yeah, we don't think you'll see Deshaun Watson there in
twenty twenty five. Who knows what could happen. Give me
Jerry Judy as at number fifty four.

Speaker 5 (50:42):
Man, I've taken a lot of running backs in a row,
but I'm gonna keep to that theme. I'm gonna take
Tyrone Tracy from the Giants, just the lead back in
New York. Again, it's not an offense we feel great about,
but he's the guy there and I like his three
down potential. He's a good pass catcher, he can rush.
He's doesn't have a lot of competition there either, so

(51:02):
I don't really like Singletary, So give me Tracy.

Speaker 1 (51:06):
I'd consider him actually instead of Jerry Judy at that point,
but I wanted to go wide receiver, and yeah, I
think Tyrone Tracy is a fine pick at that point,
Mike up at fifty six.

Speaker 3 (51:19):
Fifty six already we're already that far crazy.

Speaker 1 (51:23):
Yeah, Dean's got just one pick left you and I
have two and then we are done with this bad boy?

Speaker 3 (51:28):
How do I screw this up?

Speaker 1 (51:29):
Now?

Speaker 3 (51:31):
Or even more, I guess would be the proper way
to say it. I've got three or four guys and
you were talking about you know, WR ones versus WR two's,
and there's still a couple of wr ones, but we
don't like them for myriad reasons, Like I think I'm
looking at one guy powder, another guy health, another guy

(51:53):
who has spurts, but not the level of consistency I want.

Speaker 1 (52:00):
I'll tell you, like, if you want to name names,
go right ahead, because I know who I'm going to
take at fifty seven if you don't take him, and
it's not a wide receiver, but okay, go ahead name
those names that you're decided.

Speaker 3 (52:13):
Well, but I mean you got George Pickens yep, right,
who's his quarterback? And week to week what effort? I'm
again because the guy is just such a ridiculous talent
when you get him involved early, and he's not off
to the side creating an issue, right and all the
Instagram and whatever else he does. I'm looking at Zay

(52:35):
Flowers right, looking at Baltimore and what the passing game is.
But again it's spread out and Flowers had himself a
nice year statistically, But do you remember any really big
impactful games. No. Right, it became like an aggregation kind
of thing again, which is what we want for here.
But you know, week to week, I need I need

(52:56):
a couple of big efforts mixed there in and then
trusting my and Jalen Waddell, right, and trusting that that
offense uh can do what it does. So that that
leaves me just in the quandary looking at the wide
receiver position and trying to find some greatness. So I'm

(53:16):
going to go off the board. And a guy that's
on the comeback trail. Ian actually mentioned him earlier. He
was off to what would have been a record breaking
pace before getting hurt. Give me Chris Godwin.

Speaker 1 (53:29):
Wow, all right, the veteran there, guys.

Speaker 3 (53:34):
You know, I need the old guys to keep playing
because then I don't feel so old, Nancy. It's the
old philosophy. Get a couple of gray beards in there,
and we're good.

Speaker 1 (53:45):
I have thought of and the only reason why I
said go ahead of name names is because we've only
we only have four surce lots, and it gets us
to talk about other guys that maybe other people would
talk about when you were talking when you mentioned Chris Godwin.
I've also considered Brandon ayuk Ye and I don't think
that his name is on the radar. I think when
you see in the rankings, he'll probably be further down.

(54:07):
But assuming he comes back well with everything, I would
hope that he would reclaim his spot as that forty
nine ers go to guy. I'm not taking him here,
but in that group of wide receivers, he was another
name that popped up. I'm curious to see what Ayuk's
value is going to be when we are drafting in
the in the summertime. Here at number fifty seven, I'm

(54:28):
gonna take Chuba Hubbard, Carolina Panthers running back for what
he did in the second half of the year. I
mean his breakaway overtime run against the Ears of A
Cardinals and it cost me seven hundred dollars. But hey,
that's all right. All is forgiven Cuba. I will take.

Speaker 3 (54:46):
Guess who's getting a Chewba Hubbard card just so you
could rip it up. Zich I mentioned all the WWE
superstars doing the top rip thing off air is they
would find their rival and they'd try to tear it,
but it was plastic, so they struggled. Here, I'll find
you an actual card cardboard, so you can take it
out there.

Speaker 1 (55:06):
I got in this pool that they it's called the
Club thirty three pool, and each week you're assigned a
different team and if that team scores exactly thirty three points,
you win the pot and it carries over to the
next week. And there was there was just week after
week nobody was scoring thirty three points. The pot got

(55:27):
up to like fourteen dollars guys. So a team scores
thirty three that week, The Cardinals and Panthers go into
overtime tied at thirty and the Panthers are in field
goal range and Hubbard runs over like three Cardinals. You
can see the game winning touchdown. All he had to
do is just go down at that point and then
they kicked a field goal and they win the game.

(55:49):
But he did not. And if you remember, he had
a fumble earlier in the year that ended up costing them,
so it was like redemption for them, and everybody was
happy for Chew Bobard, everyone except me, who ended up
losing out because the game finished thirty six to thirty.
So there's my Chuba hub Hubbard story. I had a
little time in the podcast to tell it, but that's
and yeah, that week, obviously I had the Carolina Panthers.

(56:11):
Is my team moving on our final three picks? Don't worry.
I'm over it, guys, I'm over it.

Speaker 3 (56:17):
No, you keep that bottled up inside forever. Use that
as fuel.

Speaker 1 (56:22):
Dan Byrn, Oh my goodness, think about that. You're watching
thirty thirty. I'll just kick the field goal.

Speaker 3 (56:28):
Oh we're in range. Yeah, no, just take the dubble,
kick the field goal. We're out.

Speaker 1 (56:32):
He ran over it, like two or three guys too.
Just ridiculous, But I digress. All right, Ian Roddy, your
last pick.

Speaker 5 (56:40):
All right, this is outside the box one. But just
to get an extra name in there, it's another rookie.
I'm gonna take a Mecha Buka. I don't think he's
even the best receiver in the draft necessarily, but there's
a few things going for him, and I do have
reasoning here. A, he's from Ohio State. We know they
those guys always come into the league ready to go.
B his strength is his route running and just ability

(57:02):
to get open. So if he goes to an offense
with a competent quarterback, he's going to become a favorite
target very early on, which is good for PPR.

Speaker 1 (57:10):
And then.

Speaker 5 (57:13):
Also just the fact that he's he's good after the catch.
He's better than you think after the catch. He's going
to be able to get yards. And yeah, I like
a Mecca Buca. Just wanted to throw an extra rookie
name in there.

Speaker 1 (57:24):
That is an enormous curve ball because Mecha Abuca was
he was actually the number one guy in his class,
like the top wide receiver coming.

Speaker 4 (57:32):
Into Yeah, yeah, he's a five star, but the problem.

Speaker 1 (57:35):
Was then you had Marvin Harrison Junior emerged and then
this past year you had Jeremiah Smith emerged. So he's
never been at his time at Ohio State the number
one guy, and.

Speaker 5 (57:45):
I think that's made him a little underrated. But I
think the fact that he's projected to go in the
back half of the first round means he's probably going
to be going to a better team.

Speaker 1 (57:54):
Just logically there it is a Mecca. Buca is off
the board for Ian's file. Pick, Mike, you got one
to send us home with.

Speaker 3 (58:04):
I've got a couple of I'm looking at the tight
end position, a couple of guys that stood out that
are still on the board for me when we look
at you know, Hockinson's still available. He was hurt now
back and what that offense becomes if he's a move
the chains kind of guy. Also, our guy in Detroit

(58:25):
still hanging out there, ye, Sam Laporta, so kind of
looking at him, I feel like I've drafted way too
many Lions. Not that I'm building a team here, but
just psychologically, as you know, resident Bears guy. That kind
of it goes back to what I used to fight
with NFL players in the infancy of this, before they
realized how much money they'd make on fantasy, and they

(58:47):
all talked about how much they hated it and how
it took away your fandom. And I'd always come back
to how many shutouts are you pitching in a given year?
And they'd look at me like, what do you mean?
I go how many shutouts are there in the NFL
and then be like, I don't know a handful. It's like, right,
so someone's scoring points, they should be on my damn team.

(59:08):
Like so you could draft Brett Farv and be okay.
I'm like, yeah, as long as your defense sucks and
you lose thirty one to twenty eight. Also fine in
my world, isn't it. He's like, because you're twisted. I
would fight with Tom Rathman and guys at random events
when Fantasy was really start to pick up it, and
they'd get really mad at me, and it's like and
then they'd take the Bears defense in the second round.

(59:28):
I'm like, what are you doing? It's like, well, they
got Devin Hester. I'm like, how many return touchdowns a
guy average out a year? You ever go to see that? So,
you know, getting into fights with guys, which is great,
But all of that to say, I'm gonna round this
out and I'm going to finish the job and double

(59:48):
down in Kansas City? Is that if you're worthy again
expecting the reboot of the Kansas City Offense that was
supposed to happen in twenty twenty four and didn't that.
I see that genesis here.

Speaker 1 (01:00:01):
I'm So glad you mentioned Sam Laporta because that means
that I don't have to take him. Yeah, because I
didn't want to go out with a tight end that
you know, kind of ended up falling down the board.
I'd rather take something with a little upside or something
with a you know, a higher maybe somebody somebody jumping up.
There are a lot of a lot of good names

(01:00:23):
out there. I have no idea what's what's going to transpire,
but I'm going to go Tank Bigsby at number six.
I love it ahead of Travis Etn, which may be
crazy because Lion Lion Liam Cohen taking over as the
the head coach of the Jacksonville Jaguars. But Tank has
been Tank and if you look at the preseason rankings,

(01:00:45):
he's higher than Travis Etn. And give me Tank Bigsby.
Why not end with Tank at number sixty? There it
is the Jacksonville Jaguar that you didn't think. I dig
it would be taken. All right, there's our top sixty guys,
and that kind of puts it into our I want
your flex season for the twenty twenty four NFL campaign.

(01:01:06):
Ian you're the executive producer. I'll start with you on
any final thoughts on this season and what we've done
this year.

Speaker 4 (01:01:13):
It was a fun year.

Speaker 5 (01:01:15):
I appreciate you guys bringing me on to replace the
great Ryan Berschinger. So yeah, just looking forward to what's
next year.

Speaker 3 (01:01:23):
No, we had a fun year, guys. I mean a
lot of great information. I like how comfortable Ian's gotten
because he'll call us on our bs. Dan, Yes, which
is good because, let's face it, I certainly need that
every once in a while. You've been very good at it,
but it's always good to have a second set of
years to listen and say, hey, hold on a second,

(01:01:44):
hold up, cul de sac, let's go back, or you
know a pick that in my top fives that you
guys didn't agree with. I love it. I think that's
healthy and that's what we should be doing. We had
a lot of fun, a lot of jokes, a lot
of pop culture references leaving no don't unturned, and a
lot of history. You know, Dan and I and I

(01:02:06):
fear at times we might be preaching at young Ian,
but I think he's got a good head that he
understands and is thirsty to learn the history of all
this stuff, particularly the years that you and I have
been doing fantasy stuff because you and I go back
many years doing all this for Fox Sports Radio, and

(01:02:26):
certainly the years on this podcast. So I think it
just keeps getting better, keeps getting funnier, They keep getting
longer because we have a lot to say to bounce
off each other. So I appreciate you guys. It was
a fun year and look forward to the fall.

Speaker 1 (01:02:40):
Well. I appreciate both of you guys. And the good
news is is the offseason continues to get shorter because
as the length of the season and what goes on,
and there's actually some good news when it comes to
the I Want Your Flex podcast. The podcast isn't going
completely dark now until summertime when it's draft time. Mike
is on the air weeknights with Jason Smith and Jason

(01:03:00):
Smith Show with Mike Harmon. I'm on with Doug Gottlieb
sometimes filling in for him, filling in for Cavino and Rich.
We've got our shows on the weekend as well. When
we have football conversations that we feel work for this podcast,
we're going to bring them over here. And so hopefully
if you're not able to digest our show content during

(01:03:20):
the weeks, or on the weekends as they're live, we're
going to put them here if the conversation is warranted enough,
so the content will not entirely disappear. We're going to
be bringing you stuff. It'll just be in a different
form outside of me, Mike and Ian chopping it up.
But yeah, Ian, great job, Mike. You always bring it
every single week with your rankings, and we truly appreciate

(01:03:42):
that and the time, and you come off of a
four hour show on Monday and Thursday and then stick
around for another hour to do this, so it is
all greatly appreciated.

Speaker 3 (01:03:50):
Now, hey, we do great things. And then you lead
us to the promised Land. So you know, we go
and punch it in toush push style and away we.

Speaker 1 (01:03:59):
Go, punch it in like Cuba Hubbard running over Cardinals, commnders.

Speaker 4 (01:04:03):
You over that Dan you share.

Speaker 1 (01:04:07):
Maybe need a J. Brown's book to read. Will end
on that note, So for Ian, Roddy and my Carmen,
I'm Dan Meyer Fellas, it's been a blast. Will doctor
next time, and I want your flegs