November 14, 2023 • 37 mins
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It's Fox Sports Radio's Official Fantasy Football Podcast! Dan Beyer, Mike Harmon, and Ryan Burschinger react to Week 10 in fantasy football. The guys discuss the huge performances despite big names on bye and focus in on the Washington Commanders offense. Is it time to sell high on Josh Allen? The guys try to make sense of why teams are struggling in primetime and find a perfect compromise for the NFL and fantasy leagues for bye weeks. Plus, Harmon gives his waiver wire targets for Week 11!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:22):
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Speaker 3 (00:34):
Welcome in Happy Tuesday. It is I Want Your Flex.
I am Dan Bayer. Hit me up at Dan Byer
on Fox. The executive producer of the show is Ryan Berschinger.
He joins me. Mike Harmon will be here in just
a little bit at the top of this recording. He's
doing his own show on Fox Sports Radio. So it's
a late Monday for us. If you're on the East coast,
it's an early Tuesday. The week ten, versch is in
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the rearview mirror and this is my big Tay and
I kind of want to start out the podcast in
this spot. Entering this week, I think a lot of
people in season long fantasy contests were thinking, man, this
is going to be tough because no Chiefs, no Eagles,
no Dolphins, and the Rams also had to buy some
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of a couple of names that you played as well
from the Rams. Big big week of hits when it
comes to buys and some big names.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
And the week.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Started out atrociously with Panthers Bears Patriots Colts in the
first two games. But my goodness, did the fantasy gods
deliver come one o'clock Eastern time on Sunday, and the
games were great. There were stats to go all around.
I thought Week ten was going to be lacking, and
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it was anything but, especially in the fantasy world.
Speaker 5 (01:51):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely. We had discussed that last week where
we kind of we're a little hesitant for this coming
week because the big names that were on by and
and weird injury situations in different places. But ultimately, yeah,
a lot of guys put up big numbers. Luckily, that
Chargers Lions game was that that was the kind of
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matchup where we looked at it and go, all right,
this this has to this has to produce strong offensive numbers,
right like these are two not not great secondaries against
two heavy passing offenses. And it worked. It worked plenty well.
Justin Herbert didn't really have his second receiving option, even
though Jalen Geyton did did look did did get some
catches there, but he just fed Keenan Allen, and Keenan
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Allen had a gigantic game, which was great for me
in one league and terrible for me in another. Like
that's kind of that's kind of the way it goes.
But a big scoring in that matchup. And yeah, there
were there were plenty of games that did provide some
you know, one sided scoring outputs with the Niners for example.
But but yeah, we we saw we saw some very
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strong fantasy numbers from from different places this week.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
Yeah, Chargers lines, as you said, did a lot of
the heavy lifting. However, you know, Dallas blows out the Giants,
but everybody except Tony Pollard got in on the deal
with the Cowboys.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
That was crazy.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
You also have a team like the Pittsburgh Steelers that
now all of asden has a running game, you know,
Jalen Warren and Najie Harris getting the end zone and
have respectable numbers on the ground in that game against
the Green Bay Packers. And then the other thing that
I was going to point out the Houston Texans Bengals
game was so one sided stat wise for a while,
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but then all of a sudden boom, you know, boom,
Jamar Chase, you know, long touchdown, And not everybody didn't feed,
but there was a lot of feeding going around Joe Mixon,
who I think was on one of your teams because
we were in the same building obviously when the games
were happening, and when Stroud throws the interception, all of
a sudden mixing gets this late added touchdown to kind
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of save his day.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
Yeah, there was there was a lot.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
And just when you think you figured the NFL out,
you don't, And just when you don't have faith, like ah,
this could be bad, it turns out to be a
great product. Five games ended on the last second field goal.
And I know we focus on fantasy stuff, but I was.
I was expecting the worst. We saw the matchups looked
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ahead to and it provided a great, great week of
football in the National Football League. So so call me,
call me a skeptic prior, but you can call me
wrong now, because boy did delive up past its expectations.
Speaker 5 (04:37):
It really did. It's some incredible finishes in that that
early window. It was fun. It was fun to watch.
They got incredibly interesting when you have teams like the
Ravens suddenly just falling out of nowhere. Uh, that was
a bizarre game to watch happen in real time. Yeah,
there were and and in Fantasy numbers, you have like
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these gigantic performance as you know, as we mentioned with
with like Keenan Allen or Ceedee Lamb, and then it
kind of overshadows that, like the second tier of performances
were some really strong games from from guys who will
give you consistent numbers, but not gigantic numbers. And and
like Mike Evans or Brian Robinson, Like these guys were
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in the upper twenties in points and they probably won
weeks for people, and it almost seemed under the radar
even though they had incredibly strong games because you had
these other gigantic names at the top. Really taking off.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
Robinson's situation is so unique because I mean the commanders
have so many targets. Yeah, like we talked about, like,
you know, we laugh at Jahan Dotson, who I was
so high on at the start of the year, and
in this game, and I've got the box score in
front of me and I'm doing the math as we're
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doing it. Sam Howell targeted eleven different receivers. Jahan Dotson
happened to be one of the two who did not
have a catch. Okay, so, but the other one who
didn't have a catch is Jamison Crowder. This is the
crazy thing about the Commanders is they have so many
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guys that you could actually rattle off seven targets and
then all of a sudden, Diami Brown comes across the
middle and catches a pass and goes in the end
zone and scores from thirty five yards out. Like you
know Antonio Gibson and Brian Robinson, you know Curtis Samuel,
you obviously know Terry McLaurin. I've talked about dots and
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Logan Thomas is there, but it just did. It never
ends with the Commanders, which is crazy because it's just there.
Art Monk's gonna show up, and I know that probably
predates you and your age.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
But it just was.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
It was over and over more, just more guys coming out.
You're seeing different uniform numbers. By the way, along with that,
I really like Sam Howell the rest of the regular
season in Fantasy. When you look at the Commander schedule
and you look at what they've got ahead. The playoffs
don't set up great for them, but the regular season
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and Sam Holl is now becoming an every week starter.
But if you happen to be in one of the
leagues where he's not available, or maybe he's the backup
to someone, because that very well could be a scenario
in your league, he would be a guy I would
try to jump on and try to acquire because you
got games against the Giants coming up after that.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
The Cowboys, Dolphins, and Rams.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
Your playoffs are Jets and Niners, which I think are
tough playoff matchups, but man leading up to that, not
too shabby.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (07:43):
Yeah, He's definitely a guy that you could pair with
another quarterback and you can kind of play the matchups
on a week by week and you can come out
with easily at a top five quarterback play. I mentioned
to you in the league, I have Sam Howell and
I also have Jared Goff, And that's a very interesting
combo because when it comes to because Hal does have
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a bye in week fourteen, and so you can kind
of play matchups with the favorable ones there and then
if you get to the playoffs, Goff's got a pretty
decent playoff schedule, So yeah, I definitely Sam howl Is.
I have a bit of a bitter taste with Sam
Howel this week because I went against him in one league,
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and in that league, the person I was playing prior
to the matchup, like earlier in the week, he traded
Terry McLaurin and Taj Spears for Brian Robinson, and so
then he got the stack of the Sam Howell to
Brian Robinson touchdown against me right off the bat in
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that game, and I'm like, this is ridiculous. You have
got to be kidding me. How Am I being punished
for this? But you know, good on him for going
out and give getting the number one commander's receiver by
trading the number one commander's receivers. Do smart move?
Speaker 4 (09:07):
I guess no, that's that's nutsy.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
I even remember I had a conversation with a guy
at the golf course that I know pretty well, and
he always wants to talk fantasy football, and I wasn't
a believer in Brian Robinson the receiver.
Speaker 4 (09:19):
I was a believer in Brian Robinson the running back.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
And he goes to me, Robinson's going to be catching
some passes, and I'm like, in my head and say
it to his face.
Speaker 4 (09:28):
I'm like, what the hell do you know? You know?
Speaker 3 (09:33):
And now here we are in week ten, six catches,
one hundred and nineteen yards and a touchdown. I may,
I may stay away from the golf course this week
so I don't see him. But yeah, there's you know,
there's value of the commanders and that's what you want
to look at, like honestly right now, and take a
look at what you had on Monday night with the
Buffalo Bills and you look at all of their pieces,
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and I don't know what they're going to be. I mean,
Josh Allen produces no matter what. Didn't have a great
night Monday obviously, and you expect Stefan Diggs to get
his Dalton Kincaid's been, you know, a piece and James
Cook they relied heavily on in the second half after
that first half fumble. But are you convinced that the
Buffalo Bills will be better offensively than the Washington Commanders
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will for this stretch drive? And I'm not like, because
Washington will have the same issues on defense and Buffalo
could just end up being a mess like they were
on Monday night.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
So when you're.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
Taking a team like the Commanders, And I guess my
bigger point burstus this is that you know, you really
just kind of start you have to kind of look
at offenses as a whole, reassess from maybe what you
thought at the beginning of the season as you now
enter this stretch drive. Because I still think people were
believing in Buffalo entering Monday night, and there was nothing
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in the previous five or six weeks that.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
Would make you think, all right, this team's about to
go on a role. So I just you know, trust
your eyes and what you see.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
And right now, like I think, I see more consistency
and firepower, say out of a Washington offense than what
you would get out of Buffalo. And that's crazy talk
if you were to say that ten weeks ago.
Speaker 5 (11:13):
No, I feel that because watching that game what a
disgusting game then ended up being. But if you look
at the scope of the entire game, you take out
the ending of it. The Bills offense simply wasn't terribly effective,
like they were fine, and when they remembered that the
Broncos couldn't defend the run, then they actually started to
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move the ball well. But overall it definitely let a
lot to be desired. And as somebody who has Josh
Allen in the league where this is even a six
point passing touchdown league, you know he's QB one on
the season, especially with that bump to passing touchdowns. But
looking at his remaining schedule, he has the Jets next week,
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which is not a great matchup. The Eagles would a
good matchup, but then a bye in week thirteen, the Chiefs,
which the chief secondary is actually good. You have the
Cowboys in week fifteen, then the Chargers in sixteen, and
the Patriots in seventeen. So it's really it's a very
up and down schedule in terms of in terms of
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matchups for the Bills, especially in looking at their passing offense.
So I don't know, with fantasy trade deadlines coming up,
Josh Allen feels like a tempting name to offload and
to get multiple pieces in return if you're really trying
to make a bigger run, especially if you're on the
fringe of a playoff spot, because you know, on one
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hand you've got a buy sitting there in a crucial
week thirteen, and with the varying degrees of matchups and
with names like guys like Sam Howell that we just
talked about, where maybe you could have picked him up
at some point, you know, in some leagues he's still
out there, or a guy like Josh Dobbs who was
putting up very strong numbers and suddenly settling down in
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that Vikings offense, getting Justin Jefferson back. There's potential in
other places where you could maybe look at getting a
value play at quarterback and then getting a piece or
two in return that you can start every step of
the way on a push to the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
Jets, we remember from Week one and the Aaron Rodgers injury,
but we also forget on how many times Josh Allen
turned it over in that game three interceptions, and then
as you mentioned, now week eleven, and maybe they're going
to be smarting from this, but really, if you look
at what they've done over the last month and a
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half after that big Dolphins win, they've basically just played
to the level of their competition.
Speaker 4 (13:51):
And I don't know what's got to change.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
Maybe they need that buy in week thirteen, but the
way that they're playing right now, you know, antiscy wise,
do you trust James Cook entirely if he's on your squad,
I'm not sure that I do. I know, Trayvon Diggs
is sticking up for his brother. There's nothing that they
can do now with it. They're still playing stuff on Diggs.
To your point, maybe there's value that you can get.
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I just it's just something that I don't trust right now.
And I feel like there are times when you can
go there are teams around the National Football League that
I feel that you can trust.
Speaker 4 (14:28):
Now Keenan.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
Allen's not going to have one hundred and seventy five
yards and you know, like you did this past week
against the Lions, but I trust that he's going to
get his you know, and it may not be two touchdowns,
it may be one touchdown on one hundred yards, but
he's going to get his. I don't know if that's
the case right now with Buffalo, and that's that's just
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what's scary to me. You have more guts to trade
Josh Allen than I do. I'm still would run heck
even tonight. I mean, you know, the rushing touchdown and
some kind of salvage his night the way that he did.
But yeah, just in terms of like you know, banking
on what they've got man.
Speaker 4 (15:07):
I don't know, it's it's it's tough. They need that
buy bad.
Speaker 5 (15:11):
They do, they do, and maybe that's that will be
the saving grace for them because with the late season bye,
they'll they'll they'll get that rest and hopefully if you know,
especially going right into Kansas City after that, maybe it
does reinvigorate them. Yeah, if you're very comfortable in in
a in a playoff spot right now and you've got
Josh Allen at quarterback, I would I would stick with Alan.
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But if you're somebody like me who's who's on the
outside looking in at the moment and might need to
do something drastic to to fight it, to fill other
holes on the roster to maybe grab that final playoff spot, Yeah,
it's Alan provides a lot of trade value. So if
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you need to get two starters, Josh Allen is somebody
that I feel like can be moved.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
He's Ryan Berschinger. I'm Dan Byer. Harmon's going to join
us next.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
I want to dive into you mentioned one of the
Bills opponents. The NFL has done no favors to the
Philadelphia Eagles. Plus, coming off of a week where we
had three great teams on Buy. We enter a week where, yeah,
you may not be hurt in the fantasy realm when
it comes to Byson. Week eleven, we'll dive into that
(16:24):
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Speaker 4 (16:41):
Byer on Fox.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
So now we come off a week Mike, where we
had these three juggernauts of offense in fantasy, maybe not
so much Kansas City, but still legitimate players. Yeah, the
Dolphins coming back as well, and the Philadelphia Eagles. And
now we enter a week where we've got the Dandy
of Falcons, Colts, Pats, and Saints all on by. Now
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that's great because outside of Chris O Lave and me
trying to force Drake London into a lineup, there isn't
too much of a decision to be made. But you know,
like I just I don't know if the NFL is
getting this right by putting all these powerhouses on by
one week and then giving us, you know, a sprinkle
of I don't want to call it trash, but whatever
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this is. Yeah, I don't know how I feel about
how these buys are seem to be loaded in some
weeks and then just bare bones in another.
Speaker 6 (17:34):
We'll just go back a couple of weeks where we
didn't have any at all, yeah, right, or week that
we only have two and don't forget the rams because
we were missing a couple of key wide receivers. You
are correct, right, So you know, as much as we
can mock them, and you know, even in the running game,
you know, hey, Darryl Henderson, welcome home. But the idea
of the bye week evan flow. It's kind of like
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my scheduling thing of how much I hate all the
division games being stacked towards the end of the year. Right,
we were just going through a little bit, Jason Smith
and I on our show, you know, the Josh Dobbs
effect and what Minnesota can be and the final three
weeks of the season are Detroit, Green Bay, Detroit, Like,
who the hell's playing with any semblance of the squad
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that they started the year with in those Yeah, but
let's decide the division. You know, that's just one of
many examples, But I guess it comes down to this
kind of like building the fantasy squad. The only position
you really care about not doubling up on his quarterback, right,
Otherwise I'll take the l for that one week if
three of my four starting wide receivers have the same
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bye week, I think the NFL kind of said the
same thing. We'll get some good games. People won't miss
these guys that much for that one week. Travis Kelcey's
gonna go to Argentina and have a good time, all
of that stuff, and we're gonna get six games that
are decided by last second field goals, So it'll be great.
Nobody will pay attention, although we will export Indianapolis and
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New England to Germany.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
Hey, all that was was you had the appetizers and
they were awesome, and then the main course stunk, or
the main course was great, in the dessert stunk because
we gave Germany chiefs Dolphins did And I know it
wasn't a great game, but it was a great matchup,
So I don't feel bad for them getting Patriots and cold.
Speaker 6 (19:27):
No, no, no, they look all the folks in England should
still be mad that they got that. All these years,
they've been getting all these other dog games and the
you know, the Chiefs and the Dolphins play in Germany.
The hell's that all about? So yeah, a little bit
of saltiness along the way. I also proposed on our
Monday night show, I want to talk about you know,
I ask you guys what you think. It's the immodest proposal.
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Go back to the old write ups and birst. You
might have heard this one. I went on a big
rant to start the show of you know, all these
night games suck, you know, over on another undercash it
was forty six and a half. So forty six points
the total in the Monday night game of Denver and Buffalo.
But we're at the point where it's pretty clear players
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are not sharp. Coaches look like they're in a fog.
I don't know if they're old and they need a
nap or you know, some extra Ginko Beloba in their
tea for the afternoon or whatever it is, Dan Ryan,
But you know, we're watching most of these night games
or just awful, just just terrible football. And I celebrate
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them all, and this became part of the argument. I
love all to seventy two doesn't mean I'm not ranking
them to seventy two to seventy.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
One is so on. They're all still on the list.
Speaker 6 (20:40):
But like we've just been week after week, it's two
out of three games and most times three out of
three are just awful endeavors Bursch.
Speaker 4 (20:51):
You want to dive in on this or yeah, I don't.
Speaker 5 (20:55):
I have no idea as as as to how that's happening,
but I definitely notice it. I mean, overall, it seems
like the league is just like not in a great
state as it is. But yeah, when you have these
these night games where you're making like simple errors and
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like it's just complete lapses and judgment and just tonight alone,
just really weird things, you know, random attempts at two
point conversions and of course twelve men on the field
and just a complete mess of a final twenty seconds.
But yeah, no, I don't understand it.
Speaker 4 (21:33):
I'm not a pro athlete.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
And when we look at the college game, I mean,
you know this past week, you know, the Pac twelve
didn't finalize their game times until Sunday for some of
the matchups that are coming up on Saturday. But there
was something to be said of, you know, growing up
in the Central time zone of noon kickoffs and maybe
once it a while you're playing in a late window,
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and then once it a while you're playing in Monday
night football. Kansas City Chiefs haven't played a noon Central
time kickoff since Week two when they were in Jacksonville.
And the only other time they're going to play a
noon kickoff or noon Central time kickoff is going to
be on Christmas Day. So it's not even you know,
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in that case, it's not even a Sunday that they're
you know, getting that game.
Speaker 4 (22:25):
It's on a holiday. And so, Mike, to your point,
I think that there is a little something to it.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
There is something about a rhythm, and when you're playing
at night, or you're playing on Thursday and you're playing
on Monday, it's all over the map. My problem is,
and I just and I tweeted about it on Monday night,
was people were surprised at what the bills were like,
and it's like, how could you be We've seen them
guess what they've been in all these windows, you know,
the London game against the Jaguars, they had a Thursday
night game against the Buccaneers. We saw them Sunday night
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against the Bengals. We've seen this Buffalo Bills team, but
think about that. We saw them early morning on a Sunday.
We saw him on a Thursday. We saw him on
a Monday. And you know, this is what you get. So, Mike,
there may be something to it. I don't know if
there's tons of data to it, but yeah, I think
it could play a part in it.
Speaker 6 (23:12):
Yeah, I mean know, we talk about, you know, just
the league as a whole. To the point, Ryan was
going down on the idea of where we're at team
by team, like we're doing it for fantasy purposes with
a lot of these squads, trying to determine who exactly
is a number two receiver for a squad, you might
as well pull out the Dungeons and Dragons twenty sided die.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
It is week to week.
Speaker 6 (23:35):
You have no bleeping idea. Who's seeing the football? Right,
John hus Smith, Let's go get him. Oh wait, we
really stink and he doesn't see the ball. You know,
all of these things just going you know, the EBB
and flow. The fact that we're into what forty forty
plus fifty plus quarterbacks, plus all the random trick plays
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that you throw in. I think it's like seventy guys
have attempted at least one d ass this year.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
When you add in.
Speaker 6 (24:02):
All of the trick plays and outliers, like, you're in
a weird ten rookie quarterbacks with DeVito, who's got the
best setup in everything? I argued in favor of Tommy DeVito,
I may buy a jersey and celebrate that guy's catalog,
concentrate on nothing.
Speaker 4 (24:17):
But you're just smith claim his syracuseness.
Speaker 6 (24:21):
No, he doesn't play shocking. He kind of mocked him.
I'm like, dude, he's a guy you should be celebrating.
He's an NFL quarterback that came through your Syracuse program
and then Illinois and whatever. But a guy who's figured
it out. Mom and dad are gonna take care of
everything I need. I just need to concentrate on football.
There's the meal, there's my laundry that my bet is made.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Oh of, that's great. How many people wouldn't trade.
Speaker 6 (24:44):
I mean, there's a lot of people in today's economic
climate that might be taking full advantage of that and
might really identify he might be the people's champion.
Speaker 4 (24:54):
The veto what a guy. Hey he did that fifteen
fantasy points.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
In my way, there's a lot more than some of
these other guys.
Speaker 4 (25:02):
And tell you what you know, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
You know, obviously the NFL is you know, the cats
out of the bag with this. There's there's going to
be more open windows that we have or these you know,
just standalone games as should call them.
Speaker 4 (25:18):
So it's it's not coming out.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
I'm sure there are a lot of different factors, just
obviously the parody of the game. But Mike maybe on
to a little something there, because it is all over
the map at least college. We know that they're playing
on on Saturday most nights.
Speaker 4 (25:35):
I know, mactionin.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
I get all that, Pac twelve, Big ten play a
Friday night game here and there, but by and large
you're playing on a Saturday, and just at various different times.
So you said the Bills have hit, I mean gods,
they've played on you know, as you said, Sunday, Thursday
and a Monday and in London. You know, all in
the span of the last month and a half. That
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can't be good for all of that.
Speaker 6 (26:01):
Plus you had so many changes coming into the year
Sean McDermott and running your defense. We see how well
that's going both there and in Los Angeles with the
Chargers and the greatness that is Brandon Staley. But you
go and that that matter eber Fluce in Chicago, although
the defense isn't the worst part of them, but you
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go on, Leslie Frasier's gone. You lose a couple of
key components to your defense. Von Miller is barely on
the field, and you're still coming off of the Deamar
Hamlin event from last year. It's a much different thing.
And we saw as evidence, and you guys talked about
it a little bit earlier on Monday night. Hey, if
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you actually commit to running the ball, you might actually
be able to do it.
Speaker 4 (26:46):
How about that if you hold out on the football?
Speaker 6 (26:49):
Well that's true too. Was that fumble the hand coming
in kind of forced the fumble? But I mean, is
there a more fertuitous bounce in recent memory than that
long run from James Cookman.
Speaker 4 (27:00):
I know, I thought it was like Aussie Rules done.
I dribbled, you know, I'll just.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
Say this and to wrap up the point about the buys. Ideally,
ideally the NFL would say all right, weeks eight, nine,
and ten, these ten teams have off. You know, our
eight teams have off. You know this, twelve teams have off.
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Here's another ten whatever. However you want to break it up,
but they can't because of us. Yeah, they can't because
of fantasy football, Like it would be great, but think
of how you would fill a roster, you know, in
week nine of a season with sixteen teams on buye
you know, like like it's and I know that there
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are different forms of fantasy out there, but it is
to me. It's when you look at the NCAA tournament
and you know the expansion and how it's gone. You know,
they have expanded from sixty four to sixty five and
not a sixty eight. But I think that the biggest
pushback for a bigger bracket truly comes from people actually
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filling out brackets. And I think that the NFL, like
for how big fantasy is right now, I don't think
they could afford to do it. So you still got
to spread it out all over these weeks and now
it's just a matter of do you want to eat?
You know, try to make it even. We're two good
teams and maybe two bad teams you expect. That's just
a tough that's a tough game to play because now
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you're guessing on who's going to do what.
Speaker 5 (28:35):
Fantasy could adapt to that, though, and it would actually
create a really interesting situation where let's say if it
was two by weeks of just week eight and week
nine half and one half in the other, then you
just have a two week week, right like you have
a you would have you would play the same opponent
for those two weeks and half of you.
Speaker 4 (28:55):
Know, yeah, actually that could be.
Speaker 5 (28:56):
You would have accumulative of those two weeks because you know,
you'll you'll just set your roster as one thing for
the two weeks, and those guys will play once in
those two weeks, and then you'll have the so that.
Speaker 4 (29:09):
That would yeah, there you go. If I would have
thought about it, I wouldn't have brought up the topic
of the first I didn't think of it.
Speaker 6 (29:19):
That was that was good, Like Birsch had that moment
of insight there, like like the angels, I could hear
them singing Dan a moment of clarity. But you know,
I was also just thinking about the the Vegas casinos.
They need your help and with too many buys. That's
fewer games for you to bet on and then chase
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on Sunday night and Monday night. So they need they
need your they need your dollars, they need your support.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
Oh man, well, uh, Colts, Patriots, Saints and Falcons all
on by and finally the decision to bench Drake London
has just been taken out of my hands.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
That's great, Like me and Gabe Davis, if.
Speaker 3 (30:05):
I would have played Noah Brown this week instead of
Drake London, I would have won one of my games.
Oh well, you guys don't care about my team ideas
about my team. Well, I appreciate that. It is I
want your flex. He is Mike Carmon, that's Ryan Berschinger.
I'm Dan Beyer. Who should you pick up and waivers?
Heading into week eleven? Harmon's got the answers. That's next
here and I want your flex all right? Starting to
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be money making time again. The Buys, Falcons, Colts, pat Saints.
Don't know how many gaps you're filling in. May need
a replacement for Jonathan Taylor. I don't know if we're
going to be needing any replacements for any of the
quarterbacks that are.
Speaker 4 (30:40):
On buy Mike. But who should we be targeting in
Week eleven waivers?
Speaker 6 (30:45):
Well, clearly we're into the slim pickens because you know,
when we talk about percentages and guys being available, we
try to target a little bit deeper dives in terms
of shoring up your roster. So let's start with a
couple of quarterbacks. Obviously many happy returns. Kyler Murray with
the victory was a pretty no, but that scramble and
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the return of James Connor lead me to believe that
we've got some good days ahead of us. Two forty
nine in the air, thirty one and the score on
the ground. I mean, it's an eighteen point performance, but
perhaps predictive of future things. And if nothing else, they're
showcasing him to offload him in the off season if
that's possible, or they start rebuilding. Either way, we're gonna
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find out something. He's available in about a third of leagues. Likewise,
Sam Howell another big day for him, Still available in
roughly a third of leagues when you look at Yahoo
percentages and such, and that's a big enough sample size
for me.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
And then Matthew Stafford got dropped by.
Speaker 6 (31:45):
A lot of fantasy owners as we sit down to
record this Monday into Tuesday. He's supposed to start his
next time out. What he'll be, Can he finish? I
don't know, but he is only only in about forty
percent of leagues right now, so worth worth a flyer
to go a little dig a little deeper there the
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running back position. I got three names for you. We
got Buster, Keaton, I mean, I'm sorry, Keaton Mitchell. Sorry,
see I was showing my age there. Forty eight percent
owned even after the big week nine fantasy owners were reticent.
Has another big breakout run. We watched that sprint and
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he's still available in nearly half the leagues. Likewise, Devin Singletary,
we've been waiting to see someone run the ball effectively
for Houston.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
Tada.
Speaker 4 (32:34):
There he is.
Speaker 6 (32:35):
And then we've got Deontay Foreman, unowned in about forty
percent of leagues, and I know Roshawn Johnson and he
and Khalil Herbert coming back. It's a bit of a mess,
But in terms of playing defense is what I always
get back to. Should be on a roster, should not
be floating around the waiver wire in your league. If so,
that's just foolishness. A couple of wide receivers, Romeo Dobbs.
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You saw the great catch. He's up to thirty three catch. Look,
it's weird with he and Jordan Love because Jordan Love's
on the list, but he's one of those lower priority.
If you don't like the quarterback you've got, perhaps you
go and just roll because he's available in about sixty
percent of league's. Dobbs about the about fifty percent. And
then you got Josh Downs. Now he's not playing this week,
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but you know my affinity for him available in about
a half of league's Right now, Noah Brown and Houston
up to twenty one catches, four hundred and thirty nine yards.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
That's the thing.
Speaker 6 (33:28):
We're talking about, big plays and yak and then we
continue to bang the drum for Trey McBride to go
down the tight end road just really quickly. Twenty eight
catches now on the year, still available in forty percent
of leagues.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
Noah Brown situation is crazy, and it reminds me of
Steve Stricker. Okay, talking golf here, guys, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
Let's go.
Speaker 4 (33:53):
Yeah, Steve Stricker.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
I was gonna say, is he the third receiver? Where No,
just kidding.
Speaker 3 (33:59):
Steve's trigger was so far down on the PGA Tour
Comeback Player of the Year award years ago that he
actually won it twice because he had so far so like,
he had so much to climb, Like his climb from
where he had bottomed out to to just get back
to respectability was so good that they were like, hey,
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you're a comeback Player of the Year. Then he went
from mediocre to like top ten in the world, and
they're like, well, that was pretty amazing too, so you're
gonna win it again. That's what I feel like Noah Brown,
Like he was on No one's roster, then maybe what
twenty percent of the people pick him up, and now
he comes back and does this again, So now you're
gonna get another thirty to forty percent people picking him up.
Speaker 4 (34:45):
It's just such a crazy rise for him.
Speaker 3 (34:47):
And yeah, maybe you know rightly so Nico Collins, you know,
wasn't available, and hey, couple of you know, buck guys
getting some uh you know, getting acquainted. Yeah, off, I
should have played him last week, but didn't.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
Yeah, I didn't either, because I'm a dope. I also
didn't play c J.
Speaker 6 (35:09):
Stroud in the league because I said, no, I can't
possibly go nuts in another game. Now he made my
Lamar Jackson start look stupid.
Speaker 4 (35:20):
There you go, it happens. You know, purse you got anything.
Speaker 5 (35:26):
I'm also am I balling a couple interesting guys. I mean,
Rico Dowdell got into the end zone that Tony Pollard
did not get into. Granted, a lot of his work
came when that game was very much out of hand,
which she was from the start. But he is an
interesting name, especially if you're a Tony Pollard owner. He
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feels like a smart stash there. And speaking of the Cowboys,
I was a week early on Brandon Cooks. He was
awful last week and I shipped him right off, and
then he proceeded to put up stupid numbers again.
Speaker 4 (36:05):
Can't play defense.
Speaker 5 (36:06):
Yeah that's true, that's true. Nine catches one hundred and
seventy three yards in a touchdown for Brandon Cooks. So
and and the Cowboys, I mean, my goodness, that's the
Panthers Washington, Seattle, Philly. The next four matchups, Dak has
been throwing rather effectively, and I would I would assume
that he does continue to do so. And and one
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last mention of ty Chandler with with Alexander Madison leaving
the game with a concussion and they don't have cam
akers anymore. Ty Chandler got all the workload, especially when
Madison was out, but he was he was getting work
with Madison in as well, so he is I think
worthy of a stash as well.
Speaker 3 (36:47):
I feel like I was early on the ty Chandler wagon,
vand wagon you were.
Speaker 4 (36:53):
You were.
Speaker 6 (36:53):
I rostered and I've been waiting for O'Connell to unleash
him because right now you're best rushing up and option
and all always Josh Dobbs.
Speaker 3 (37:02):
But if you kept ty Chandler for seven weeks, you
got a problem. So because I think in week three
we were talking about this, right, I'm like, God, just
take a shot at ty Chandler.
Speaker 4 (37:13):
Why not?
Speaker 3 (37:13):
We had no idea how the Vikings backfield was going
to shape up, you know, shape up? Now Josh Dobbs
is their best runner out of their backfield. Yeah, yeah,
I'll tell you what the next episode we're going to
dive into.
Speaker 4 (37:27):
Is Josh Dobbs sustainable? Is it something I want to
talk about.
Speaker 3 (37:30):
I think Tony Pollard's another interesting conversation as well, a
lot to get to and I want your flex, but
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I am Dan Bayer. Hit me up at Dan Byer
on Fox. The executive producer of the show is Ryan Berschinger.
He joins me. Mike Harmon will be here in just
a little bit at the top of this recording. He's
doing his own show on Fox Sports Radio. So it's
a late Monday for us. If you're on the East coast,
it's an early Tuesday. The week ten, versch is in
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the rearview mirror and this is my big Tay and
I kind of want to start out the podcast in
this spot. Entering this week, I think a lot of
people in season long fantasy contests were thinking, man, this
is going to be tough because no Chiefs, no Eagles,
no Dolphins, and the Rams also had to buy some
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of a couple of names that you played as well
from the Rams. Big big week of hits when it
comes to buys and some big names.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
And the week.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Started out atrociously with Panthers Bears Patriots Colts in the
first two games. But my goodness, did the fantasy gods
deliver come one o'clock Eastern time on Sunday, and the
games were great. There were stats to go all around.
I thought Week ten was going to be lacking, and
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it was anything but, especially in the fantasy world.
Speaker 5 (01:51):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely. We had discussed that last week where
we kind of we're a little hesitant for this coming
week because the big names that were on by and
and weird injury situations in different places. But ultimately, yeah,
a lot of guys put up big numbers. Luckily, that
Chargers Lions game was that that was the kind of
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matchup where we looked at it and go, all right,
this this has to this has to produce strong offensive numbers,
right like these are two not not great secondaries against
two heavy passing offenses. And it worked. It worked plenty well.
Justin Herbert didn't really have his second receiving option, even
though Jalen Geyton did did look did did get some
catches there, but he just fed Keenan Allen, and Keenan
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Allen had a gigantic game, which was great for me
in one league and terrible for me in another. Like
that's kind of that's kind of the way it goes.
But a big scoring in that matchup. And yeah, there
were there were plenty of games that did provide some
you know, one sided scoring outputs with the Niners for example.
But but yeah, we we saw we saw some very
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strong fantasy numbers from from different places this week.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
Yeah, Chargers lines, as you said, did a lot of
the heavy lifting. However, you know, Dallas blows out the Giants,
but everybody except Tony Pollard got in on the deal
with the Cowboys.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
That was crazy.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
You also have a team like the Pittsburgh Steelers that
now all of asden has a running game, you know,
Jalen Warren and Najie Harris getting the end zone and
have respectable numbers on the ground in that game against
the Green Bay Packers. And then the other thing that
I was going to point out the Houston Texans Bengals
game was so one sided stat wise for a while,
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but then all of a sudden boom, you know, boom,
Jamar Chase, you know, long touchdown, And not everybody didn't feed,
but there was a lot of feeding going around Joe Mixon,
who I think was on one of your teams because
we were in the same building obviously when the games
were happening, and when Stroud throws the interception, all of
a sudden mixing gets this late added touchdown to kind
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of save his day.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
Yeah, there was there was a lot.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
And just when you think you figured the NFL out,
you don't, And just when you don't have faith, like ah,
this could be bad, it turns out to be a
great product. Five games ended on the last second field goal.
And I know we focus on fantasy stuff, but I was.
I was expecting the worst. We saw the matchups looked
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ahead to and it provided a great, great week of
football in the National Football League. So so call me,
call me a skeptic prior, but you can call me
wrong now, because boy did delive up past its expectations.
Speaker 5 (04:37):
It really did. It's some incredible finishes in that that
early window. It was fun. It was fun to watch.
They got incredibly interesting when you have teams like the
Ravens suddenly just falling out of nowhere. Uh, that was
a bizarre game to watch happen in real time. Yeah,
there were and and in Fantasy numbers, you have like
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these gigantic performance as you know, as we mentioned with
with like Keenan Allen or Ceedee Lamb, and then it
kind of overshadows that, like the second tier of performances
were some really strong games from from guys who will
give you consistent numbers, but not gigantic numbers. And and
like Mike Evans or Brian Robinson, Like these guys were
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in the upper twenties in points and they probably won
weeks for people, and it almost seemed under the radar
even though they had incredibly strong games because you had
these other gigantic names at the top. Really taking off.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
Robinson's situation is so unique because I mean the commanders
have so many targets. Yeah, like we talked about, like,
you know, we laugh at Jahan Dotson, who I was
so high on at the start of the year, and
in this game, and I've got the box score in
front of me and I'm doing the math as we're
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doing it. Sam Howell targeted eleven different receivers. Jahan Dotson
happened to be one of the two who did not
have a catch. Okay, so, but the other one who
didn't have a catch is Jamison Crowder. This is the
crazy thing about the Commanders is they have so many
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guys that you could actually rattle off seven targets and
then all of a sudden, Diami Brown comes across the
middle and catches a pass and goes in the end
zone and scores from thirty five yards out. Like you
know Antonio Gibson and Brian Robinson, you know Curtis Samuel,
you obviously know Terry McLaurin. I've talked about dots and
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Logan Thomas is there, but it just did. It never
ends with the Commanders, which is crazy because it's just there.
Art Monk's gonna show up, and I know that probably
predates you and your age.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
But it just was.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
It was over and over more, just more guys coming out.
You're seeing different uniform numbers. By the way, along with that,
I really like Sam Howell the rest of the regular
season in Fantasy. When you look at the Commander schedule
and you look at what they've got ahead. The playoffs
don't set up great for them, but the regular season
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and Sam Holl is now becoming an every week starter.
But if you happen to be in one of the
leagues where he's not available, or maybe he's the backup
to someone, because that very well could be a scenario
in your league, he would be a guy I would
try to jump on and try to acquire because you
got games against the Giants coming up after that.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
The Cowboys, Dolphins, and Rams.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
Your playoffs are Jets and Niners, which I think are
tough playoff matchups, but man leading up to that, not
too shabby.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (07:43):
Yeah, He's definitely a guy that you could pair with
another quarterback and you can kind of play the matchups
on a week by week and you can come out
with easily at a top five quarterback play. I mentioned
to you in the league, I have Sam Howell and
I also have Jared Goff, And that's a very interesting
combo because when it comes to because Hal does have
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a bye in week fourteen, and so you can kind
of play matchups with the favorable ones there and then
if you get to the playoffs, Goff's got a pretty
decent playoff schedule, So yeah, I definitely Sam howl Is.
I have a bit of a bitter taste with Sam
Howel this week because I went against him in one league,
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and in that league, the person I was playing prior
to the matchup, like earlier in the week, he traded
Terry McLaurin and Taj Spears for Brian Robinson, and so
then he got the stack of the Sam Howell to
Brian Robinson touchdown against me right off the bat in
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that game, and I'm like, this is ridiculous. You have
got to be kidding me. How Am I being punished
for this? But you know, good on him for going
out and give getting the number one commander's receiver by
trading the number one commander's receivers. Do smart move?
Speaker 4 (09:07):
I guess no, that's that's nutsy.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
I even remember I had a conversation with a guy
at the golf course that I know pretty well, and
he always wants to talk fantasy football, and I wasn't
a believer in Brian Robinson the receiver.
Speaker 4 (09:19):
I was a believer in Brian Robinson the running back.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
And he goes to me, Robinson's going to be catching
some passes, and I'm like, in my head and say
it to his face.
Speaker 4 (09:28):
I'm like, what the hell do you know? You know?
Speaker 3 (09:33):
And now here we are in week ten, six catches,
one hundred and nineteen yards and a touchdown. I may,
I may stay away from the golf course this week
so I don't see him. But yeah, there's you know,
there's value of the commanders and that's what you want
to look at, like honestly right now, and take a
look at what you had on Monday night with the
Buffalo Bills and you look at all of their pieces,
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and I don't know what they're going to be. I mean,
Josh Allen produces no matter what. Didn't have a great
night Monday obviously, and you expect Stefan Diggs to get
his Dalton Kincaid's been, you know, a piece and James
Cook they relied heavily on in the second half after
that first half fumble. But are you convinced that the
Buffalo Bills will be better offensively than the Washington Commanders
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will for this stretch drive? And I'm not like, because
Washington will have the same issues on defense and Buffalo
could just end up being a mess like they were
on Monday night.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
So when you're.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
Taking a team like the Commanders, And I guess my
bigger point burstus this is that you know, you really
just kind of start you have to kind of look
at offenses as a whole, reassess from maybe what you
thought at the beginning of the season as you now
enter this stretch drive. Because I still think people were
believing in Buffalo entering Monday night, and there was nothing
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in the previous five or six weeks that.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
Would make you think, all right, this team's about to
go on a role. So I just you know, trust
your eyes and what you see.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
And right now, like I think, I see more consistency
and firepower, say out of a Washington offense than what
you would get out of Buffalo. And that's crazy talk
if you were to say that ten weeks ago.
Speaker 5 (11:13):
No, I feel that because watching that game what a
disgusting game then ended up being. But if you look
at the scope of the entire game, you take out
the ending of it. The Bills offense simply wasn't terribly effective,
like they were fine, and when they remembered that the
Broncos couldn't defend the run, then they actually started to
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move the ball well. But overall it definitely let a
lot to be desired. And as somebody who has Josh
Allen in the league where this is even a six
point passing touchdown league, you know he's QB one on
the season, especially with that bump to passing touchdowns. But
looking at his remaining schedule, he has the Jets next week,
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which is not a great matchup. The Eagles would a
good matchup, but then a bye in week thirteen, the Chiefs,
which the chief secondary is actually good. You have the
Cowboys in week fifteen, then the Chargers in sixteen, and
the Patriots in seventeen. So it's really it's a very
up and down schedule in terms of in terms of
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matchups for the Bills, especially in looking at their passing offense.
So I don't know, with fantasy trade deadlines coming up,
Josh Allen feels like a tempting name to offload and
to get multiple pieces in return if you're really trying
to make a bigger run, especially if you're on the
fringe of a playoff spot, because you know, on one
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hand you've got a buy sitting there in a crucial
week thirteen, and with the varying degrees of matchups and
with names like guys like Sam Howell that we just
talked about, where maybe you could have picked him up
at some point, you know, in some leagues he's still
out there, or a guy like Josh Dobbs who was
putting up very strong numbers and suddenly settling down in
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that Vikings offense, getting Justin Jefferson back. There's potential in
other places where you could maybe look at getting a
value play at quarterback and then getting a piece or
two in return that you can start every step of
the way on a push to the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
Jets, we remember from Week one and the Aaron Rodgers injury,
but we also forget on how many times Josh Allen
turned it over in that game three interceptions, and then
as you mentioned, now week eleven, and maybe they're going
to be smarting from this, but really, if you look
at what they've done over the last month and a
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half after that big Dolphins win, they've basically just played
to the level of their competition.
Speaker 4 (13:51):
And I don't know what's got to change.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
Maybe they need that buy in week thirteen, but the
way that they're playing right now, you know, antiscy wise,
do you trust James Cook entirely if he's on your squad,
I'm not sure that I do. I know, Trayvon Diggs
is sticking up for his brother. There's nothing that they
can do now with it. They're still playing stuff on Diggs.
To your point, maybe there's value that you can get.
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I just it's just something that I don't trust right now.
And I feel like there are times when you can
go there are teams around the National Football League that
I feel that you can trust.
Speaker 4 (14:28):
Now Keenan.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
Allen's not going to have one hundred and seventy five
yards and you know, like you did this past week
against the Lions, but I trust that he's going to
get his you know, and it may not be two touchdowns,
it may be one touchdown on one hundred yards, but
he's going to get his. I don't know if that's
the case right now with Buffalo, and that's that's just
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what's scary to me. You have more guts to trade
Josh Allen than I do. I'm still would run heck
even tonight. I mean, you know, the rushing touchdown and
some kind of salvage his night the way that he did.
But yeah, just in terms of like you know, banking
on what they've got man.
Speaker 4 (15:07):
I don't know, it's it's it's tough. They need that
buy bad.
Speaker 5 (15:11):
They do, they do, and maybe that's that will be
the saving grace for them because with the late season bye,
they'll they'll they'll get that rest and hopefully if you know,
especially going right into Kansas City after that, maybe it
does reinvigorate them. Yeah, if you're very comfortable in in
a in a playoff spot right now and you've got
Josh Allen at quarterback, I would I would stick with Alan.
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But if you're somebody like me who's who's on the
outside looking in at the moment and might need to
do something drastic to to fight it, to fill other
holes on the roster to maybe grab that final playoff spot, Yeah,
it's Alan provides a lot of trade value. So if
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you need to get two starters, Josh Allen is somebody
that I feel like can be moved.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
He's Ryan Berschinger. I'm Dan Byer. Harmon's going to join
us next.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
I want to dive into you mentioned one of the
Bills opponents. The NFL has done no favors to the
Philadelphia Eagles. Plus, coming off of a week where we
had three great teams on Buy. We enter a week where, yeah,
you may not be hurt in the fantasy realm when
it comes to Byson. Week eleven, we'll dive into that
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at Dan Byer on Fox. You can always reach Mike
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Speaker 4 (16:41):
Byer on Fox.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
So now we come off a week Mike, where we
had these three juggernauts of offense in fantasy, maybe not
so much Kansas City, but still legitimate players. Yeah, the
Dolphins coming back as well, and the Philadelphia Eagles. And
now we enter a week where we've got the Dandy
of Falcons, Colts, Pats, and Saints all on by. Now
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that's great because outside of Chris O Lave and me
trying to force Drake London into a lineup, there isn't
too much of a decision to be made. But you know,
like I just I don't know if the NFL is
getting this right by putting all these powerhouses on by
one week and then giving us, you know, a sprinkle
of I don't want to call it trash, but whatever
(17:26):
this is. Yeah, I don't know how I feel about
how these buys are seem to be loaded in some
weeks and then just bare bones in another.
Speaker 6 (17:34):
We'll just go back a couple of weeks where we
didn't have any at all, yeah, right, or week that
we only have two and don't forget the rams because
we were missing a couple of key wide receivers. You
are correct, right, So you know, as much as we
can mock them, and you know, even in the running game,
you know, hey, Darryl Henderson, welcome home. But the idea
of the bye week evan flow. It's kind of like
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my scheduling thing of how much I hate all the
division games being stacked towards the end of the year. Right,
we were just going through a little bit, Jason Smith
and I on our show, you know, the Josh Dobbs
effect and what Minnesota can be and the final three
weeks of the season are Detroit, Green Bay, Detroit, Like,
who the hell's playing with any semblance of the squad
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that they started the year with in those Yeah, but
let's decide the division. You know, that's just one of
many examples, But I guess it comes down to this
kind of like building the fantasy squad. The only position
you really care about not doubling up on his quarterback, right,
Otherwise I'll take the l for that one week if
three of my four starting wide receivers have the same
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bye week, I think the NFL kind of said the
same thing. We'll get some good games. People won't miss
these guys that much for that one week. Travis Kelcey's
gonna go to Argentina and have a good time, all
of that stuff, and we're gonna get six games that
are decided by last second field goals, So it'll be great.
Nobody will pay attention, although we will export Indianapolis and
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New England to Germany.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
Hey, all that was was you had the appetizers and
they were awesome, and then the main course stunk, or
the main course was great, in the dessert stunk because
we gave Germany chiefs Dolphins did And I know it
wasn't a great game, but it was a great matchup,
So I don't feel bad for them getting Patriots and cold.
Speaker 6 (19:27):
No, no, no, they look all the folks in England should
still be mad that they got that. All these years,
they've been getting all these other dog games and the
you know, the Chiefs and the Dolphins play in Germany.
The hell's that all about? So yeah, a little bit
of saltiness along the way. I also proposed on our
Monday night show, I want to talk about you know,
I ask you guys what you think. It's the immodest proposal.
(19:50):
Go back to the old write ups and birst. You
might have heard this one. I went on a big
rant to start the show of you know, all these
night games suck, you know, over on another undercash it
was forty six and a half. So forty six points
the total in the Monday night game of Denver and Buffalo.
But we're at the point where it's pretty clear players
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are not sharp. Coaches look like they're in a fog.
I don't know if they're old and they need a
nap or you know, some extra Ginko Beloba in their
tea for the afternoon or whatever it is, Dan Ryan,
But you know, we're watching most of these night games
or just awful, just just terrible football. And I celebrate
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them all, and this became part of the argument. I
love all to seventy two doesn't mean I'm not ranking
them to seventy two to seventy.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
One is so on. They're all still on the list.
Speaker 6 (20:40):
But like we've just been week after week, it's two
out of three games and most times three out of
three are just awful endeavors Bursch.
Speaker 4 (20:51):
You want to dive in on this or yeah, I don't.
Speaker 5 (20:55):
I have no idea as as as to how that's happening,
but I definitely notice it. I mean, overall, it seems
like the league is just like not in a great
state as it is. But yeah, when you have these
these night games where you're making like simple errors and
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like it's just complete lapses and judgment and just tonight alone,
just really weird things, you know, random attempts at two
point conversions and of course twelve men on the field
and just a complete mess of a final twenty seconds.
But yeah, no, I don't understand it.
Speaker 4 (21:33):
I'm not a pro athlete.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
And when we look at the college game, I mean,
you know this past week, you know, the Pac twelve
didn't finalize their game times until Sunday for some of
the matchups that are coming up on Saturday. But there
was something to be said of, you know, growing up
in the Central time zone of noon kickoffs and maybe
once it a while you're playing in a late window,
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and then once it a while you're playing in Monday
night football. Kansas City Chiefs haven't played a noon Central
time kickoff since Week two when they were in Jacksonville.
And the only other time they're going to play a
noon kickoff or noon Central time kickoff is going to
be on Christmas Day. So it's not even you know,
(22:20):
in that case, it's not even a Sunday that they're
you know, getting that game.
Speaker 4 (22:25):
It's on a holiday. And so, Mike, to your point,
I think that there is a little something to it.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
There is something about a rhythm, and when you're playing
at night, or you're playing on Thursday and you're playing
on Monday, it's all over the map. My problem is,
and I just and I tweeted about it on Monday night,
was people were surprised at what the bills were like,
and it's like, how could you be We've seen them
guess what they've been in all these windows, you know,
the London game against the Jaguars, they had a Thursday
night game against the Buccaneers. We saw them Sunday night
(22:54):
against the Bengals. We've seen this Buffalo Bills team, but
think about that. We saw them early morning on a Sunday.
We saw him on a Thursday. We saw him on
a Monday. And you know, this is what you get. So, Mike,
there may be something to it. I don't know if
there's tons of data to it, but yeah, I think
it could play a part in it.
Speaker 6 (23:12):
Yeah, I mean know, we talk about, you know, just
the league as a whole. To the point, Ryan was
going down on the idea of where we're at team
by team, like we're doing it for fantasy purposes with
a lot of these squads, trying to determine who exactly
is a number two receiver for a squad, you might
as well pull out the Dungeons and Dragons twenty sided die.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
It is week to week.
Speaker 6 (23:35):
You have no bleeping idea. Who's seeing the football? Right,
John hus Smith, Let's go get him. Oh wait, we
really stink and he doesn't see the ball. You know,
all of these things just going you know, the EBB
and flow. The fact that we're into what forty forty
plus fifty plus quarterbacks, plus all the random trick plays
(23:56):
that you throw in. I think it's like seventy guys
have attempted at least one d ass this year.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
When you add in.
Speaker 6 (24:02):
All of the trick plays and outliers, like, you're in
a weird ten rookie quarterbacks with DeVito, who's got the
best setup in everything? I argued in favor of Tommy DeVito,
I may buy a jersey and celebrate that guy's catalog,
concentrate on nothing.
Speaker 4 (24:17):
But you're just smith claim his syracuseness.
Speaker 6 (24:21):
No, he doesn't play shocking. He kind of mocked him.
I'm like, dude, he's a guy you should be celebrating.
He's an NFL quarterback that came through your Syracuse program
and then Illinois and whatever. But a guy who's figured
it out. Mom and dad are gonna take care of
everything I need. I just need to concentrate on football.
There's the meal, there's my laundry that my bet is made.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Oh of, that's great. How many people wouldn't trade.
Speaker 6 (24:44):
I mean, there's a lot of people in today's economic
climate that might be taking full advantage of that and
might really identify he might be the people's champion.
Speaker 4 (24:54):
The veto what a guy. Hey he did that fifteen
fantasy points.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
In my way, there's a lot more than some of
these other guys.
Speaker 4 (25:02):
And tell you what you know, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
You know, obviously the NFL is you know, the cats
out of the bag with this. There's there's going to
be more open windows that we have or these you know,
just standalone games as should call them.
Speaker 4 (25:18):
So it's it's not coming out.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
I'm sure there are a lot of different factors, just
obviously the parody of the game. But Mike maybe on
to a little something there, because it is all over
the map at least college. We know that they're playing
on on Saturday most nights.
Speaker 4 (25:35):
I know, mactionin.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
I get all that, Pac twelve, Big ten play a
Friday night game here and there, but by and large
you're playing on a Saturday, and just at various different times.
So you said the Bills have hit, I mean gods,
they've played on you know, as you said, Sunday, Thursday
and a Monday and in London. You know, all in
the span of the last month and a half. That
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can't be good for all of that.
Speaker 6 (26:01):
Plus you had so many changes coming into the year
Sean McDermott and running your defense. We see how well
that's going both there and in Los Angeles with the
Chargers and the greatness that is Brandon Staley. But you
go and that that matter eber Fluce in Chicago, although
the defense isn't the worst part of them, but you
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go on, Leslie Frasier's gone. You lose a couple of
key components to your defense. Von Miller is barely on
the field, and you're still coming off of the Deamar
Hamlin event from last year. It's a much different thing.
And we saw as evidence, and you guys talked about
it a little bit earlier on Monday night. Hey, if
(26:43):
you actually commit to running the ball, you might actually
be able to do it.
Speaker 4 (26:46):
How about that if you hold out on the football?
Speaker 6 (26:49):
Well that's true too. Was that fumble the hand coming
in kind of forced the fumble? But I mean, is
there a more fertuitous bounce in recent memory than that
long run from James Cookman.
Speaker 4 (27:00):
I know, I thought it was like Aussie Rules done.
I dribbled, you know, I'll just.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
Say this and to wrap up the point about the buys. Ideally,
ideally the NFL would say all right, weeks eight, nine,
and ten, these ten teams have off. You know, our
eight teams have off. You know this, twelve teams have off.
(27:29):
Here's another ten whatever. However you want to break it up,
but they can't because of us. Yeah, they can't because
of fantasy football, Like it would be great, but think
of how you would fill a roster, you know, in
week nine of a season with sixteen teams on buye
you know, like like it's and I know that there
(27:51):
are different forms of fantasy out there, but it is
to me. It's when you look at the NCAA tournament
and you know the expansion and how it's gone. You know,
they have expanded from sixty four to sixty five and
not a sixty eight. But I think that the biggest
pushback for a bigger bracket truly comes from people actually
(28:12):
filling out brackets. And I think that the NFL, like
for how big fantasy is right now, I don't think
they could afford to do it. So you still got
to spread it out all over these weeks and now
it's just a matter of do you want to eat?
You know, try to make it even. We're two good
teams and maybe two bad teams you expect. That's just
a tough that's a tough game to play because now
(28:33):
you're guessing on who's going to do what.
Speaker 5 (28:35):
Fantasy could adapt to that, though, and it would actually
create a really interesting situation where let's say if it
was two by weeks of just week eight and week
nine half and one half in the other, then you
just have a two week week, right like you have
a you would have you would play the same opponent
for those two weeks and half of you.
Speaker 4 (28:55):
Know, yeah, actually that could be.
Speaker 5 (28:56):
You would have accumulative of those two weeks because you know,
you'll you'll just set your roster as one thing for
the two weeks, and those guys will play once in
those two weeks, and then you'll have the so that.
Speaker 4 (29:09):
That would yeah, there you go. If I would have
thought about it, I wouldn't have brought up the topic
of the first I didn't think of it.
Speaker 6 (29:19):
That was that was good, Like Birsch had that moment
of insight there, like like the angels, I could hear
them singing Dan a moment of clarity. But you know,
I was also just thinking about the the Vegas casinos.
They need your help and with too many buys. That's
fewer games for you to bet on and then chase
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on Sunday night and Monday night. So they need they
need your they need your dollars, they need your support.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
Oh man, well, uh, Colts, Patriots, Saints and Falcons all
on by and finally the decision to bench Drake London
has just been taken out of my hands.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
That's great, Like me and Gabe Davis, if.
Speaker 3 (30:05):
I would have played Noah Brown this week instead of
Drake London, I would have won one of my games.
Oh well, you guys don't care about my team ideas
about my team. Well, I appreciate that. It is I
want your flex. He is Mike Carmon, that's Ryan Berschinger.
I'm Dan Beyer. Who should you pick up and waivers?
Heading into week eleven? Harmon's got the answers. That's next
here and I want your flex all right? Starting to
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be money making time again. The Buys, Falcons, Colts, pat Saints.
Don't know how many gaps you're filling in. May need
a replacement for Jonathan Taylor. I don't know if we're
going to be needing any replacements for any of the
quarterbacks that are.
Speaker 4 (30:40):
On buy Mike. But who should we be targeting in
Week eleven waivers?
Speaker 6 (30:45):
Well, clearly we're into the slim pickens because you know,
when we talk about percentages and guys being available, we
try to target a little bit deeper dives in terms
of shoring up your roster. So let's start with a
couple of quarterbacks. Obviously many happy returns. Kyler Murray with
the victory was a pretty no, but that scramble and
(31:05):
the return of James Connor lead me to believe that
we've got some good days ahead of us. Two forty
nine in the air, thirty one and the score on
the ground. I mean, it's an eighteen point performance, but
perhaps predictive of future things. And if nothing else, they're
showcasing him to offload him in the off season if
that's possible, or they start rebuilding. Either way, we're gonna
(31:28):
find out something. He's available in about a third of leagues. Likewise,
Sam Howell another big day for him, Still available in
roughly a third of leagues when you look at Yahoo
percentages and such, and that's a big enough sample size
for me.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
And then Matthew Stafford got dropped by.
Speaker 6 (31:45):
A lot of fantasy owners as we sit down to
record this Monday into Tuesday. He's supposed to start his
next time out. What he'll be, Can he finish? I
don't know, but he is only only in about forty
percent of leagues right now, so worth worth a flyer
to go a little dig a little deeper there the
(32:06):
running back position. I got three names for you. We
got Buster, Keaton, I mean, I'm sorry, Keaton Mitchell. Sorry,
see I was showing my age there. Forty eight percent
owned even after the big week nine fantasy owners were reticent.
Has another big breakout run. We watched that sprint and
(32:27):
he's still available in nearly half the leagues. Likewise, Devin Singletary,
we've been waiting to see someone run the ball effectively
for Houston.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
Tada.
Speaker 4 (32:34):
There he is.
Speaker 6 (32:35):
And then we've got Deontay Foreman, unowned in about forty
percent of leagues, and I know Roshawn Johnson and he
and Khalil Herbert coming back. It's a bit of a mess,
But in terms of playing defense is what I always
get back to. Should be on a roster, should not
be floating around the waiver wire in your league. If so,
that's just foolishness. A couple of wide receivers, Romeo Dobbs.
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You saw the great catch. He's up to thirty three catch. Look,
it's weird with he and Jordan Love because Jordan Love's
on the list, but he's one of those lower priority.
If you don't like the quarterback you've got, perhaps you
go and just roll because he's available in about sixty
percent of league's. Dobbs about the about fifty percent. And
then you got Josh Downs. Now he's not playing this week,
(33:18):
but you know my affinity for him available in about
a half of league's Right now, Noah Brown and Houston
up to twenty one catches, four hundred and thirty nine yards.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
That's the thing.
Speaker 6 (33:28):
We're talking about, big plays and yak and then we
continue to bang the drum for Trey McBride to go
down the tight end road just really quickly. Twenty eight
catches now on the year, still available in forty percent
of leagues.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
Noah Brown situation is crazy, and it reminds me of
Steve Stricker. Okay, talking golf here, guys, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
Let's go.
Speaker 4 (33:53):
Yeah, Steve Stricker.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
I was gonna say, is he the third receiver? Where No,
just kidding.
Speaker 3 (33:59):
Steve's trigger was so far down on the PGA Tour
Comeback Player of the Year award years ago that he
actually won it twice because he had so far so like,
he had so much to climb, Like his climb from
where he had bottomed out to to just get back
to respectability was so good that they were like, hey,
(34:22):
you're a comeback Player of the Year. Then he went
from mediocre to like top ten in the world, and
they're like, well, that was pretty amazing too, so you're
gonna win it again. That's what I feel like Noah Brown,
Like he was on No one's roster, then maybe what
twenty percent of the people pick him up, and now
he comes back and does this again, So now you're
gonna get another thirty to forty percent people picking him up.
Speaker 4 (34:45):
It's just such a crazy rise for him.
Speaker 3 (34:47):
And yeah, maybe you know rightly so Nico Collins, you know,
wasn't available, and hey, couple of you know, buck guys
getting some uh you know, getting acquainted. Yeah, off, I
should have played him last week, but didn't.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
Yeah, I didn't either, because I'm a dope. I also
didn't play c J.
Speaker 6 (35:09):
Stroud in the league because I said, no, I can't
possibly go nuts in another game. Now he made my
Lamar Jackson start look stupid.
Speaker 4 (35:20):
There you go, it happens. You know, purse you got anything.
Speaker 5 (35:26):
I'm also am I balling a couple interesting guys. I mean,
Rico Dowdell got into the end zone that Tony Pollard
did not get into. Granted, a lot of his work
came when that game was very much out of hand,
which she was from the start. But he is an
interesting name, especially if you're a Tony Pollard owner. He
(35:49):
feels like a smart stash there. And speaking of the Cowboys,
I was a week early on Brandon Cooks. He was
awful last week and I shipped him right off, and
then he proceeded to put up stupid numbers again.
Speaker 4 (36:05):
Can't play defense.
Speaker 5 (36:06):
Yeah that's true, that's true. Nine catches one hundred and
seventy three yards in a touchdown for Brandon Cooks. So
and and the Cowboys, I mean, my goodness, that's the
Panthers Washington, Seattle, Philly. The next four matchups, Dak has
been throwing rather effectively, and I would I would assume
that he does continue to do so. And and one
(36:28):
last mention of ty Chandler with with Alexander Madison leaving
the game with a concussion and they don't have cam
akers anymore. Ty Chandler got all the workload, especially when
Madison was out, but he was he was getting work
with Madison in as well, so he is I think
worthy of a stash as well.
Speaker 3 (36:47):
I feel like I was early on the ty Chandler wagon,
vand wagon you were.
Speaker 4 (36:53):
You were.
Speaker 6 (36:53):
I rostered and I've been waiting for O'Connell to unleash
him because right now you're best rushing up and option
and all always Josh Dobbs.
Speaker 3 (37:02):
But if you kept ty Chandler for seven weeks, you
got a problem. So because I think in week three
we were talking about this, right, I'm like, God, just
take a shot at ty Chandler.
Speaker 4 (37:13):
Why not?
Speaker 3 (37:13):
We had no idea how the Vikings backfield was going
to shape up, you know, shape up? Now Josh Dobbs
is their best runner out of their backfield. Yeah, yeah,
I'll tell you what the next episode we're going to
dive into.
Speaker 4 (37:27):
Is Josh Dobbs sustainable? Is it something I want to
talk about.
Speaker 3 (37:30):
I think Tony Pollard's another interesting conversation as well, a
lot to get to and I want your flex, but
for today, we're out of time. So for Ryan Bersinger,
our executive producer, sitting right there, and Mike Carmon who's
sitting right there, I'm Dan Byer. We'll talk to you
next time here, and I want your flex.
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