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December 20, 2024 • 59 mins

It's Fox Sports Radio's official fantasy football podcast! Mike Harmon and Ian Roddy (in for Dan Beyer) open the show with their immediate thoughts and reactions to a wild Thursday Night Football game that saw the Chargers defeat the Broncos 34-27. After that, they get into some other NFL/fantasy news as the Falcons and Browns are both set to start new quarterbacks this week in Michael Penix and Dorian Thompson-Robinson. The guys also discuss the latest insider article from The Athletic, which details the New York Jets' disfunction. Finally, Mike shares his top five plays at each position for the week before giving his Hot Plays, Cold Sores and Fantasy Ninjas! Plus, Ian's got three great options for streaming defenses this week.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Ladies, you want experience during your football season, Well, buckle up,
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This is I want your Flex with Dan Bayer and
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Speaker 2 (00:22):
To starts and sits.

Speaker 1 (00:24):
The guys help you make those hard decisions. And now
let's get your flex onde. Here's Dan Bayer and Mike Harmon.

Speaker 2 (00:32):
Hey, welcome in. It is another episode the I Watch
a Flex podcast as we get ready in Arnest for
Week sixteen of your National Football League season. Playoff time
Guillotine League playoff time. Not that I'm participating, but we're
having fun chopping it all up. And on Thursday night
we got a great introduction to the week. A game

(00:54):
for playoff jockeying and position in the AFC, little bit
of fantasy storylines, a little bit of history. All of
that to say, welcome in, Thanks for being with us
and sticking with us through the year. Dan Byer is
on vacation, you can still harass him at Dan Byer
on Fox. You got me, and you got our executive producer,
Ian Roddy at Ian Roddy underscore You've got me at

(01:17):
Swollen Dome, ian A barn Burner, you were with us
in the studio here at Fox Sports Radio. It was
everything we could hope it could be.

Speaker 3 (01:25):
Yes, Yes, it was an exciting, exciting game between the
Broncos and the Chargers. Good win by the Chargers.

Speaker 2 (01:33):
Well you join thirty four to twenty seven is your
final Bo Nicks With a nice effort. We thought that
he could still put up some numbers. Chargers and Broncos
came into the game tied for the best scoring defense
mark right still fewer than eighteen points and allowed per game.
Chargers coming off of a absolute train wreck against the

(01:54):
Tampa Bay Buccaneers on Sunday, the Broncos coming in this
was the game that was flexed And it's funny now
that the Bengals actually still have playoff potential that that
was the game that was flexed out. But we'll get
to them in short order. But justin Herbert puts up
big number. Second half. First half was kind of a
disaster for the Chargers. Three straight drives for the Broncos

(02:18):
with touchdowns. Unfortunately, they were well by people you wouldn't
have played unless you played Bo Nix at the back
end of your QB one estimate, first touchdown of his career,
a guy we were waiting on. We talked about very
early in the season on the podcast. Hey nine carries
forty eight yards and a score for.

Speaker 3 (02:35):
Him now as time.

Speaker 2 (02:37):
See as time, now as time. But you would not
have started him. You got Valet with the touchdown reception
to catches twenty one yards, and then Michael Burton welcome
to the active roster. Three catches nineteen yards and a score. Overall,
you had bo Nick's complete passes to ten different receivers estimate.

(03:02):
Javonte Williams four carries twenty four yards. He was in
on that first series. You're like, all right, maybe he
was worth the flex play. Now he was not worth
the flex play. I did have seven catches, So for
PPR purposes, get this though, twenty nine receiving yards barely.

Speaker 3 (03:17):
That catches twenty nine receiving yard.

Speaker 2 (03:20):
Yeah, but that's still nine point nine. Add that back
to your twenty four you're still into double digits. So
for a back end RB two or flex play, it
paid off.

Speaker 3 (03:29):
Well done, Javonte marginally for Justin Herbert two eighty four
to two and one through the air.

Speaker 2 (03:36):
Led McConkey was back in having himself another day. Six
catches eighty seven yards. You saw Hassan Haskins with a
little shovel pass and run, a nice little surprise, and
Darius Davis with a touchdown reception two point conversion for
Josh Palmer on top of his three catches for forty
one yards, and of course Dicker the kicker coming up
big for you, including that fifty seven yard or hopefully

(03:58):
you got all five points seven points for that off
of the crazy free kick rule at the end of
the first half. So that was one of the highlights
that we got to see something that we hadn't seen
since Hell, your parents may not have been born.

Speaker 3 (04:11):
No, but they actually But after the game, both coaches
said that that's something they practiced regularly, which I thought
was weird. It's like how many you always taught. You
always hear about coaches saying like, oh, yeah, we practiced
that exact scenario in practice, and it's like how many
how much time do you have in practice to practice
all of these would be scenarios that, again, we barely
ever see happen on the actual field.

Speaker 2 (04:32):
Yeah, we'd literally seen this one because I'm a nerd
in Jason Smith and I were on air for Fox
Sports Radio as this game was going on five times
since the late nineties. Huh, and none of them successful
since nineteen seventy six. Now, obviously we're in a new
age of kicker, right, Well, we're seeing all these fifty
plus yard field goals. I was shocked when you go

(04:55):
through the laundry list of players going all the way
back for my many many years on this planet. They're
all names that you would know. Phil Dawson and a
couple others that are out there that took their shots
at it, Neil Rackers, all big legs, but no Sebastian Janikowski,
no Steven Guskowski, two guys that were regularly trotted out

(05:17):
from fifty plus. But I think that's the difference, Right,
you go back in the annals of the history, you
got a lot of sixty five sixty nine yards and
twenty five years ago, guys weren't hitting that, and most
teams weren't trying those, which means you're not practicing those
like strength. Hey, as long as we're fifty and in,
and even then it was still forty in in. I

(05:37):
mean go back through the annals of history. But the
practice schedule is always curious to me in terms of
special teams, what you practice, what you show, what you don't, right,
because you always have. I don't believe for a minute
the only practices you see are in front of the media, right,
they're in the bubbles. They're at adding extra worktime and
things that they don't want media guys potentially out on

(06:00):
their radio spots or columns or blogs or social media.
But like, I think we're at an age where if
I've got a kicker, where I've got you know, Aubrey,
I've got Dicker, I've got these guys that I know
can hammer the ball, it's at least got to be
in play. Now. This has had to have a catching

(06:21):
interference call to make it even a possibility, right, right,
otherwise the half's over and we all move on. But
at this point, and how many fair catches do you get?
That's the other part of it. On punts, like the
percentage of those is down. How often do you watch
I mean, look, we're Jets and Bears fans, so take
everything we say with a grain of assault in this,

(06:43):
but how often do you let you see the ball,
hit and roll, and I think across the NFL that's
happened a lot more. Maybe this was the learning experience
of hey, we might have a shot, and it's also
the very specific sequence of an end of half scenario.

Speaker 3 (06:59):
Yeah. Yeah, And it's I think fantasy highlights just kind
of how far kickers have come recently, because if you
remember at the beginning of the season, Aubrey the Cowboys kicker,
he was a complete weapon. He was one of the
best fantasy players period. You know, he was getting like
sixteen points a game.

Speaker 2 (07:17):
That called him their team MVP exactly, and he.

Speaker 3 (07:20):
Was like, it's not even tongue in cheek, like he
kind of was their team MVP. Uh So, yeah, it's
it's it's interesting to just see how the game's changing
in that way.

Speaker 2 (07:28):
Yeah, so the curiosity. So not a lot of huge
fantasy numbers here. He saw another Quinton Johnston drop. No
surprise there.

Speaker 3 (07:37):
I hate it for him. I just feel bad he
just keeps feeding the narrative.

Speaker 2 (07:40):
No, that's it, right. He had a he had a
play where you could clearly see him stare down the
defender who's converging on him, and it was an easy
catch even if he just falls down. It's just this
point he's like he's looking around so he doesn't fumble
it after the catch and it just drifts straight through
his hands. So bad. All of that to say, Courtland

(08:01):
Sutton five catches fifty yards, you would have played him,
which means we need to find some gold in the
rest of the games of week sixteen. I think that
about sums it up thirty four to twenty seven. Is
there any other big takeaway to come from here?

Speaker 3 (08:12):
You mentioned Gus Edwards with the two scorers.

Speaker 2 (08:14):
Ah, yeah, No, the Gus Buss has to be mentioned
a little bit more. I think I think we got
to him obliquely, but to name him in full fourteen
carries sixty eight yards, two touchdowns, the forty three yard
run really the highlight momentary. Hey, we might have fumbled. No,
he was clearly down multiple times before the ball came

(08:37):
popping free. But he finds the end zone twice. And
it's interesting because you've end up with a game where
it's twenty eight carries one hundred and seventeen yards. But
to go non fantasy for a second, it's one of
the great examples of why are they running the ball?
They're not effective, they're not running the ball. But there's
just you know, water Erow Rock, right, one of my

(09:01):
friends years ago, after a long dating process, finally got engaged.
They finally got married. They've been they stayed together, they're
still at like whatever fifteen plus years at this point.
But in his vows he yelled, you know, head the
line like water Eroad Rock. I was finally worn down.
And here we are on this beautiful Saturday. I like
that same thing here for Gus Edward. Yeah right, nothing nothing,

(09:22):
negative three. It started to look like a Barry Sanders
stat line. And then he pops that forty three yarder
right after the Justin Herbert scramble, which I was really
glad they did not call the hit right because he
was toe tap toeing taptoeing down the sideline, but he
didn't go out of bounds, so he got drilled, and

(09:43):
he's lucky didn't get hit harder and knocked it tomorrow,
because that was you got too cute there, especially when
you came into the game where everybody's questioning whether you
were hurt. You made a big run, get out of bounce,
got the first down.

Speaker 3 (09:54):
I mean even even when the team doesn't explode after
something like that. I feel like that's kind of an
indicator though, Yeah, it's like, what are you doing right?

Speaker 2 (10:01):
Yeah, exactly. But he actually used his legs eight times
for twenty eight yards in the game. Not bad for again,
a guy who was having all sorts of questions coming in.
But the Gus Edward run was a thing of beauty
power at the line of scrimmage, got to the second level,
shaking tacklers and showing a burst that we have not

(10:22):
seen with great regularity. So for fantasy owners, proceed with caution,
of course, But you look at a workload like that,
I mean, that's the identity they want to hold. And
now you've got New England in Las Vegas to close
the season. Gus Edwards could be on a lot of
fantasy title teams.

Speaker 3 (10:40):
True, the only thing you need to worry about is
Dobbins coming back, which I'm not sure exactly what the
timetable is. I think he's getting close ish, But even then,
you've got a guy coming off an injury versus a
guy that we literally just saw rush for one hundred
plus and two scores. So I'm with you there, He's
going to be a pretty good guy to have on
the roster at least, you know, good guy to have

(11:01):
as an option to start as we go into the
championship weeks here.

Speaker 2 (11:05):
Yeah, so he suffered the injury in week twelve, so
he could be activated in week seventeen technically, but we'll see, so.

Speaker 3 (11:14):
We get at least another week of gus or this
is week sixteen.

Speaker 2 (11:17):
This is week sixteen, so the potential is there to
be activated, but we've got the layoff. Now. I would
go to my waiver wire and take a look see
if he's been dropped. You know, play stratus strategically because
if he comes back, if they activate him, that means
they're gonna use him, right, They're not gonna You're not

(11:37):
gonna use him as a decoy against New England. But
the idea is if he's active, then assume he's gonna play,
and better he rot on your bench, then get put
in a flex spot and come in and beat you hm,
So whittle down that second tight end you never use
championship time. That's time to go cut throat and win.

Speaker 3 (11:57):
That's it's a good thing to bring up, is the
value of picking up guys off waivers, even if you
don't necessarily need them. It's just to keep them off
the rosters of guys who you don't want them on
your opponent's team.

Speaker 2 (12:10):
Like Reynolds in Detroit. Right, David Montagoerdy goes down. Will
he have a big role? Maybe? Maybe not. Should the
Lions pummel the Bears in Chicago this weekend, probably so
he might be of great value. Again, he may not
trump the other two or three running backs you're gonna
trot it out. But again, I'd rather have twenty points

(12:32):
sitting on my bench than have somebody pick him up
and then wave at me as they run past me.
He's Ian Roddy, I'm by Carmin. It's I watch a
flex here. As we continue getting ready for the games
of week sixteen, we'd be remiss if we didn't talk
about a couple of other quick things here. I know
we're going long here segment one, but we've got Michael
Pennix Junior and Dorian Thompson Robinson as our two newly

(12:57):
minted starters here. Dtr getting himself another shot there in Cleveland.
They are heavy road underdogs to Cincinnati forty seven the total, though,
and let's face it, Jerry Judy now named in Well,
let's get that into the Jets and trades and rumors, and.

Speaker 3 (13:14):
I was hoping we would just not talk about it.

Speaker 2 (13:16):
Well, you know what, you can punt if you want,
just like the Jets do and like Taylor does for
the Bears with such frequency. But you look at Cleveland.
You got Jerry Judy, who is over a thousand yards receiving,
Nick Chubbs hurt, Sir Jerome Ford back. There's another guy
long claimed on waivers and he shouldn't have been out

(13:37):
there anyway, but might be a guy. And we'll talk
about our rankings and everything and a few but a
guy that over five yards carry, he's an effective running
back opportunity. But Michael Pennix Junior, I'm excited to see
with the offense that is assembled there. The line gives
me a little bit of pause. But Captain Kirk also

(13:59):
was immobile. Question of how hurt he's really been, because
it has not been pretty and I don't think you
just fall off a cliff quite so badly. Not that
he's been world beating for the season, but there were
spurts and down the stretch, what is it, one touchdown,
nine picks just been an absolute disaster. So Penix gets
the start, and right out of the gate, he gets

(14:20):
the New York Football Giants, who, let's face it, they're
like a lot of the Bears players talking about vacations.

Speaker 3 (14:27):
Yeah, I mean, I think the thing with Penix is
that ear least Cousins, that things are just starting to
spiral for him. I don't think it's that he's suddenly
not an effective NFL quarterback anymore. It's just the fact that,
you know, things have gone really bad for him and
now they're starting to snowball. So I get the Falcons
turning to Penix. I just don't know how much bigger

(14:49):
of a difference he's gonna make, because you know, skill
set wise, he's similar to Cousins and that he's not
the most mobile guy. He relies on his arm talent.
And do you really think that rookie is gonna sit
here and you know, make a huge difference for your
team over a guy like Kirk Cousins, who we've seen
support number one receivers. We've seen him literally this season

(15:10):
throw for you know, four plus touchdowns in a game.
So I'm tempering my expectations for Panics. But I did
really really love him coming out of college. So I'm
excited to see what he can do. I'm at least,
just like I said, tempering my expectations there because again,
it's not like he brings a whole new skill set
to the table that Kirk didn't bring.

Speaker 2 (15:31):
Yeah, I think there's a confidence thing that comes in one.
I don't know how. Again, not excuses. Once you're within
the white lines, your fair game.

Speaker 3 (15:41):
Right right.

Speaker 2 (15:41):
You could be held together by duct tape and bandages
and whatever else. It doesn't matter. It's what you put
on the field. And Cousins just looked terrible, the decision making,
the timing, all of it. And not that he's ever
been the most mobile, but there's no oh even hey,
we can call a design rollout. That didn't look uncomfortable

(16:04):
right the last couple of weeks. And that's with Bjeon
Robinson giving you big numbers. That's with Drake London, that's
with Darnell Mooney, that's with Ray Ray mcclott. All these
guys will talk about Kyle Pitts, who everybody hates, all
the way through Tyler all Jear getting his run, I mean,
all those weapons. So I'm a bit bullish on it.
I actually called for this week a couple of weeks

(16:25):
prior to it, and we've done it on the podcast
a little bit, and certainly Smith and I had been
talking about it on our show for weeks of Kirk
looks lost, Like at some point you need a spark.

Speaker 3 (16:36):
And that's what I think it is, is that's what
Pennix does bring you that Kirk does, and it's just
a spark. It's something new because clearly it's not working
with Kirk, and I just think you owe it to
the players. You know, you're still in the playoff on
you owe it to the rest of the roster to
try and put your best foot forward, try to get
a spark here, because clearly Kirk is not it.

Speaker 2 (16:55):
Well, like we talked about on Monday, you eked out
a win against a bad Las Vegas team that was
bad like that. That was when I I might actually
do this. I'm threatened for years to actually rank the
two hundred and seventy two games. That's probably a bottom
five in terms of aesthetic appeal. But you look at
the opportunity for what the schedule is for the final

(17:17):
three weeks of the year, But you also have the
just the the idea of Penix who and maybe Smith
and I can get some credit for or blame for
this of bullying him onto the field and the decision
makers in Atlanta, because you're either going to tell me
that he's hurt, right if he was still nursing injuries
that never healed the past, Penix this is, or you're

(17:40):
telling me you haven't developed in him and he's not ready.
And if it's the latter, then you got a big problem.
Because Kirkin, whatever he is, and maybe he just needs
an off season of another season away from the injury
and he'll be fine, or maybe he is done. But
either way, if Pennix isn't ready to go the hell

(18:00):
or just quarterback readiness, it's pretty damning for your organization,
all right, we'd be remiss if we didn't do it
really quickly. Eighteen year old Brick Johnson evidently running things
through Madden Simulators games and Madden ratings to decide whether
you should acquire or discard players, including the aforementioned Jerry Judy,

(18:23):
who was subject to a potential trade possibility to the
Jets that was rebuffed by the eighteen year old. Seventeen
year old eighteen seventeen seventeen. Still yeah, I was trying to,
you know, round him up either way, seventeen years old,
it's not even better. Hi, Jets fan, how do you
feel terrible?

Speaker 3 (18:43):
Mike? I felt terrible. There's been a seventeen year old
kid running my franchise. No, he's I get that. That's
that's that's the headline. It's a little exaggerated, but this
is all stuff we knew about, Whatdy Johnson. It's just
more piling on of how incompetent he is. And I've
had the take before. I think I've set it on
this show that when a team in professional sports fails

(19:05):
to make the playoffs for ten plus years, and for
the Jets it's been fourteen, by the way, you should
be forced to sell the team just for the sake
of parody. This is just another example of it. I
think the main thing I've seen on social media coming
out of this is that people are pissed off at
the reporters like Diana Russini and Zach Rosenblat I think

(19:25):
is his name from the Athletic They it's their job
to report this stuff. I don't know what to tell you, guys,
it's their job. If there's juicy information coming out about
an incompetent NFL owner and you cover that team, it's
your duty as a reporter to report that information. You
as a fan can be mad that it's the case,
and it sucks that there's nothing that we can do

(19:45):
about it as Jets fans, because it's your owner. It's
not like you can fire the GM like you can
fire the coach. It's your owner. There's legitimately nothing you
can do about it other than get on social media
and beg for him to sell the team. I get
that there's no one else to direct your anger at,
but it really has been disappointing for me to see
Jets Nation get mad at the reporters like shooting the messenger.

(20:07):
I guess is a way to say it.

Speaker 2 (20:08):
Yeah, I mean that would be the way to term it.
I would just say this with it. Every reporter builds
a rapport, they build their sources, and I always, you know,
have the sarcasm dripping with the word source because a
lot of times, I mean, look, they're anonymous for a reason.
Very few of these things are going to go on

(20:30):
the record of this guy, said Joe Douglass. Talked about
it was behind you guys that they put their name
on that. But that's the thing, right, is that normally
you can't necessarily narrow it down to one or two people.
There's normally all right, it's someone in the building in
this quadrant and whatever, and we have to just take

(20:50):
it with a grain of salt. But everybody builds their relationships,
right Jay Blazer who comes on with Smith and I,
we know who his friends are in the coaching world.
He talks about it openly, right, he has relationships with
everybody and anybody that's matters in the league. But Tomlin,
Peyton McVeigh, guys like that he's closer to and so

(21:12):
it's it's on his sleep. For Beat reporters, they may
not be able to tell you directly, but they're getting
information either from players that are there, players that are
no longer there, front office executives that have been fired.
You don't have to like it again, you don't have
to like the messaging, but it's not there. It's not
their fault, right that someone decided to confide something and

(21:37):
then like, now, if you can prove on it, you know,
as we've seen, sometimes stuff gets made up and embellished
and exaggerated. Then then we'll find out. But in this
particular case, while the reporting kind of changes along the way,
that's the story changes sure along the way, and the
information that you get, you're trying to connect the dots.

(21:58):
It's like you're in Jurassic Park and you're adding the
frog DNA to create your dinosaur.

Speaker 3 (22:04):
Nice but it's like I said, there, like you alluded to,
it's almost definitely Joe Douglas and or Robert Sala behind
these leaks because they almost absolve either of them from
all blame in any situation, which is why I'm a
little skeptical to believe every single detail about it. I
think maybe it's a little exaggerated. But to me, the

(22:25):
more embarrassing thing is the Jets having to then address
with a spokesperson every single point that was set about
Woody there. It's like, yes, but he said this and
jest he didn't actually mean this. Yes, but it's embarrassing.

Speaker 2 (22:39):
But as soon as you have to start caveating it
out right, you know the basis is true exactly. That's
why now the devil is in the details. He's Ian Roddy,
long suffering Jets fan me over with my bears. Good
times all around as we get ready for Week sixteen
of your National Football League. Dam Bayer on vacation. Wish

(22:59):
him happy and merry Christmas. Over at dan Byron Fox.
Find Ian at Ian Roddy Underscore. You find me over
at Swollen Dome. Okay, we come back. We'll get Ian's
defenses and we'll get through Lightning round style, my rankings,
hot plays, Cold Soares and Ninja stick with us. It's
I Watch a Flex. We continue. It's I Watch Flex

(23:20):
Week sixteen. Merry Christmas, Happy Honika. Whatever you celebrate, however
you celebrate, and your families alone some isolation time you're
with your work people because you got to grind through
to the end of the year. Whatever the case may be.
Thanks for taking some time out to hang with us
here on I Watch Flex. We truly do appreciate your support.
Evangelize as we've round out the regular season all the

(23:44):
way through the Super Bowl. For tonight, it's me and
my guy, our executive producer, Ian Roddy dan Byer on vacation.
So as we go through, we have a bunch of
the stories swirling in the background, but in the end,
we love our rankings. Everybody loves to rank stuff. At
some point I'll start ranking the Christmas movies that I've

(24:04):
been watching on all of the random networks and how
much I love or hate them.

Speaker 3 (24:08):
What's your favorite Christmas movie of all time?

Speaker 2 (24:10):
Of all time? Is it Batman Returns?

Speaker 1 (24:13):
No?

Speaker 3 (24:13):
I diehard.

Speaker 2 (24:15):
I had a moment and a phase where maybe I
sucked into just the tapestry of love.

Speaker 3 (24:20):
Actually, oh, I was not expecting that. There's like well
written stuff. Now are the characters great?

Speaker 2 (24:28):
People know we've established that left and right, you certainly
have that. I go back to the classics. I will
always watch It's a Wonderful Life at least once during
the holiday. Of newer movies, a guilty pleasure has been
Fred Klaus.

Speaker 3 (24:45):
Oh, okay, okay, I'm surprised by every answer you've given.

Speaker 2 (24:49):
Some Yeah for folks unaware, that is our guy, Vince
Vaughn Ludacris spinning tunes. John Michael Higgins is one of
the Elves and Elizabeth Banks mixed therein with Paul Giamati
and Kevin Spacey. Can I say Kevin Spacey's name without
someone trying to attack me? Yeah? Okay, but yeah, you know,
giving giving you a little bit of range there.

Speaker 3 (25:10):
Yeah, I am I home Alone Okay, Home Alone one
and two they both have to be on there, even
though even though Home Alone two is pretty much just
Home Alone one in New York. Well, but that's a
good thing. That's a good thing. Anything in New York
is always going to be an upgrade in my opinion.
And then Elf, absolutely one. And then I did kind

(25:33):
of say a tongue in cheek, but die Hard really
is one of my favorite Christmas. Abeah.

Speaker 2 (25:36):
Look it is a Christmas. It's always the debate, and
I would agree with you one hundred percent. Look, if
we've got Christmas as any part of the plot line, backdrop, whatever,
even if it's for a scene and a half, it
constitutes an absorption into that world totally. So the last

(25:57):
Navidad to everybody, and you know, in your favorites, because
I'm gonna do this on letterbox and stuff soon enough.
My kids go toed me. I watch enough movies that
I should get an account. So at Swollen Dome there
as or no that one's at. Mike Harmon will be
ranking stuff and doing that. But at Swollendoba you went,
you went with your blue sky user name. Yeah, because

(26:17):
I was actually able to get my name right. It's
it does a little check and this one took a
little longer through their process. I'm like, all right, come on,
there's not that many users. We're still kind of new
to this either way. All of that to say, I'm
having fun going And I've actually watched a bunch of
Lifetime in Hallmark movies, including the Chiefs movie.

Speaker 3 (26:36):
I don't even think I know about that.

Speaker 2 (26:38):
So there was a movie put out and loosely based
on the whole Taylor Swift Travis Kelsey kind of thing,
or at least that's how they it was termed.

Speaker 3 (26:47):
So so it came out in the last year well.

Speaker 2 (26:49):
And like two weeks ago tonight or tomorrow night, the
extended cut is available. See now we're going down a
rabbit hole viewing. But Ddrich Bader from Drew Carey Show
Office Space. He was Lawrence I remember the Next Door Nambor.
Now he was in American Housewife as the dad. He's

(27:09):
voiced Batman in one of the cartoons all that. Uh
you got ed Begley Junior, whose face you would remember.
It's been around for a long time. Uh, you've got
the guy from the jump to conclusions. Matt from Office Space.
Megan Price, who was on a sitcom that, for the
life of me, I'm not remembering the title of, but
with Patrick Warburton, and I think it's Goldie Goldie Hawnks's daughter, right,

(27:34):
so Kate Hudson's brother, so Oliver Hudson. See what I
did there? I was able to map that out.

Speaker 3 (27:39):
Uh, seeing rules of engagement was in head, but.

Speaker 2 (27:43):
I didn't want to get wrong. And David Spain and
Spades Spade, it's always great. But he and Warburton, like
you could tell they were riffing on each other a lot,
and like you could see people in the backgrounds. It's
kind of laughing as they're going into the lines, like yeah,
that wasn't scripted, but either way, so you know one
of those. And I'm trying to think of who the

(28:05):
leads were. They were people I wreck like the woman
I recognized her. But that's in cod squenchal, the idea
being that, all right, you've got all this hoopla around
the love story with the chiefs, Let's make something about
chiefs fandom. Let's make something about chiefs and family and
put it all together. It was actually pretty good. Oh no,
I gotta admit, is it something that I you know,

(28:27):
if I'd gone and paid money in a theater for
would I have been happy? Maybe not? But all all told,
it was cheesy, you know what? And that's what a
holiday movie is supposed to be.

Speaker 3 (28:38):
Sounds like, sounds like a movie I should watch with
my girlfriend.

Speaker 2 (28:41):
I think your girlfriend would like.

Speaker 3 (28:42):
There we go, that's I'm doing it, and.

Speaker 2 (28:45):
You get to talk about the chiefs Andy Reid pops
in for a minute, cameos from a couple of other
Chiefs in there. All right, so you got that? All right,
I'll watch it all right? Basically, all right, here's the
promise for those that haven't seen it, go watch it now.
You're gonna come back and hate watch anything here that
I say or do. You've got a fan of the
year contest that the Chiefs are gonna do. Guy gets

(29:07):
sent out. His job is to scout, naturally, the woman
who's running the thing. Families all around, family rung business.
They've got their history with the Chiefs, fandom whatever and
Hunter Kings. So Joey King's sister is the lead. This
matters in a larger world. If you're a teenager, listening,
you know exactly what I'm talking about. But the point

(29:29):
being that she's now starting to run the family business
and they have this magical hat that when they wear it,
great things happen. Hilarity ensues, people fall in love. There's chaos,
there's chiefs, there's the game. There's all these little back
and forth and there's a lot of starky dialogue which

(29:49):
is all up my sleeve for anybody that's listened to me.

Speaker 3 (29:52):
So it's like a Marvel movie pretty much.

Speaker 2 (29:54):
Yeah, yeah, we can get through that. Absolutely, a lot
of morphing and infinite timeline, no question about it. All right,
He's ea and roddy how by Carmen. Let's get into
the rankings. Let's do it locked and loaded as we
get ready for week sixteen to no on surprise in
inc Josh Allen against New England. You're looking at just
a ridiculous run that he has been on these last

(30:16):
couple weeks. Even with a bye week, he's got thirty
more points than the next closest quarterback over the last
four weeks. Interesting spot because of New England again over
the last same time period four week period, giving up
twenty points a game to opposing quarterbacks. That's seventh worst,
eighth worst around the NFL. You're looking at six touchdowns

(30:39):
against two interceptions as well as a rushing touchdown. Look
at their schedule, they haven't faced a bunch of guys
with mobility and right now Josh Allen is a man
on a mission trying to pin down that number one seed.
Joe Burrow against Cleveland. They're still alive for the playoffs.
As we discussed in the first segment of the podcast,
over the last three games post by averaging about twenty

(30:59):
two points per game. Cleveland will start Dorian Thompson Robinson.
As we discussed, got to think there's gonna be a
ball or two up for grabs, just like with James,
no matter how bad this defense is, they need to
show up for one game, the battle for Ohio. Maybe
they do it here. Jordan Love against New Orleans. He's
not been great, his last four games been more on
the Josh Jacobs bandwagon. But a big spot here again,

(31:23):
rookie quarterbacks starting. We didn't get deep into it Spencer
Rattler because he actually played last week, so we didn't
really highlight that. But he's gonna get the go. How
about Baker Mayfield going up against Dallas back to back,
looking at twenty plus points and two straight games twenty
nine against the Chargers. Things are humming. Mike Evans, the
fight to get him back to one thousand yards, Bucky

(31:44):
Irving out of the backfield, you name it, you got it.
And then I debated, you know, a little bit of
a price shot with Kyler Murray, but he's been grossly inconsistent.
We've got one twenty plus game over the last four weeks.
Otherwise we're looking at an eleven, a ten, a seventeen,
which isn't terrible, but that means Jalen Hurts gets the

(32:04):
nod twenty one point three over his last four and
maybe he and his wide receiver have taken all the
hate on again like a Marvel villain. Take out all
the hate and it's all the energy to feed them.

Speaker 3 (32:15):
Yeah, that is such a weird situation. But the weirdest
part about it is the fact that amidst all of it,
they continue to win.

Speaker 2 (32:23):
That's it.

Speaker 3 (32:24):
And they continue to win and still look like one
of the best teams in the league, and and you
got their coaches fighting on the sideline. I just don't
the Eagles are a complete anomaly to me.

Speaker 2 (32:33):
But that's just it. Right. It's like all working environments.
It works until it doesn't. Right. In our business, plenty
of legendary tales about co hosts who could work together
for four hours, didn't talk before a show, didn't talk
after a show. Right, maybe they'd get onto an email
thread with their producer or producers, but otherwise there's no

(32:56):
interaction they have. You know, the kids are growing, they're
not hawking, they're not going anywhere whatever, in all all
walks of life, whatever business you're in. Listening to the podcast, man,
you've got people that are folks you deal with, but
it works because they're good at their job. In Philadelphia
right now, we've got a lot of folks that are
pretty damn good at their jobs good way, position by position.

(33:18):
And even if you can say, all right, this guy's
a little less than he once was as a unit,
offensive line, defensive line, they're getting it done and right
now that's secondary for Philly. Cooper Dejean and company. They're
flying around. So it is a fun story there in Philadelphia.
And offensively, I don't need Jail and Hurts and aj
Brown to be best friends. Just for sixty minutes. They

(33:40):
have to not kill each other on a football field.

Speaker 3 (33:42):
Yeah, just not kill each other. If as long as
you can do that, the super potentially to the base
of it all, as long as you don't kill each other,
you should be able to win a Super Bowl.

Speaker 2 (33:53):
Here, do you guys think you can do that well?
And don't fall apart physically like Detroit's doing. But we'll
get to them. Yeah, as we continue. Any exceptions or
annotation do you want to make there.

Speaker 3 (34:04):
I'm with you on all that. It's the the Kyler
Murray thing hurt my soul personally because I have shares
of him in most leagues that I'm in, So that
that's been a really painful year for me because I
had such high hopes for him, especially because the rushing
upside was supposed to be like the floor for him.
That that's what kept him as a good option regardless,

(34:24):
Like even if he had a bad passing game, he
was always going to have that rushing production to fall
back on, and he just hasn't this year.

Speaker 2 (34:30):
Yeah, this is really the most curious part.

Speaker 3 (34:31):
It really is.

Speaker 2 (34:32):
As much as you want him to be a he
wanted to develop as a downfield passer. You didn't think
that part of his game would just be neuter exactly.

Speaker 3 (34:40):
And it's like, if you're not going to be running,
we would like to see you then at least feeding
Marvin Harrison Junior, which hasn't happened, or you know, getting
Trey McBride a ton of touchdowns, which hey, he still
hasn't even had his first one. So yeah, it's just
a lot of head scratching, very very odd season there
in Arizona. What did they do well?

Speaker 2 (34:58):
Well, they get the ball to mcbri really well until
the red zone. All right, let's go to the running
back position. We start with Jamier Gibbs going up against Chicago.
He's averaging nearly twenty one points per game over last
four and that's while splitting time with David Montgomery. So
for PPR purposes, for all of those things, I mean,
he's an absolute monster. I did enjoy his little commentary

(35:20):
during an interview about how much he would have liked
to have been playing in Dallas because he doesn't like
the cold of the NFC North. But again, you plan it, Dome,
get over it, and you look at the opportunity here
as a Bears squad, as I alluded to before, they're
talking an awful lot about the off season and vacations

(35:41):
and future destinations. Over the last four weeks, Bears giving
up the fourth most fantasy points per game to opposing
running backs. James Connor go back to Arizona. Well here
over the last four weeks, he is fifth amongst running
backs for fantasy purposes. You have thirty plus the last
over the last two So I mean we've got some

(36:02):
opportunity here. You look at the Carolina defense. They have
struggled at times, playing better ball of late from the
offensive standpoint, but still when we look at them rushing defense,
nice and easy middle of the back as we go.
Chase Brown seventh amongst fantasy running backs here this last month,

(36:25):
averaging nearly twenty three points per game. So I think
we've got an opportunity here to make some hay as
a runner around receiver. Against Cleveland, they're playing out the
string at this point. Another disaster. Thought it was turning
maybe turning around, and you find some more juice with
Jamis Winston to at least be interesting. Instead, he's demoted.

(36:49):
Josh Jacobs against New Orleans, he's the leader four string
games with at least twenty fantasy points per set it
forget it, And finally James Cook gets back on the radar.
Over the last month, he's ninth, averaging about seventeen points
per game. There is a four point nine in there,
which is odd because that was the game that Josh
Allen had his superhero moments against the Rams. That's okay,

(37:13):
we don't, we don't, we don't have to look back.
Let's looking forward at the opportunity that doth prevent present itself.
And you look at a new England squad given about
twenty five points per game to opposing runners five total
touchdowns in this last.

Speaker 3 (37:28):
Four weeks, and like touching on James Cook there as well,
the game script should be very heavily in their favor
or in his favor specifically because the Bills, you know,
you expect them to absolutely blow the Patriots out.

Speaker 2 (37:41):
Here fourteen point favorite.

Speaker 3 (37:42):
Fourteen point favorite. That's a crazy line. To those who
are versed in sports betting, you don't often see a
two touchdown line there like that, But so that says
a lot.

Speaker 2 (37:52):
We have two of those this week. Wow, Monday Night football.

Speaker 3 (37:56):
Wow, I'm trying to say it's a rare occurrence. We
got two days, No it is, but we have two
this week. It's just man, the football gods. Sometimes the
schedule makes it what it is, especially at the end
of the season. Yeah, true, but nutrition and team's trending
one way or the other. But at that point being
if the Bills really are blowing out the Patriots, then
they are in theory, going to be handing the ball

(38:17):
off a lot more to run down the clock, and
that means more opportunities for James Connor and I mean
for James James Cook.

Speaker 2 (38:23):
The other guy. This is where we get into it,
and he'd be mentioned in the Ninjas. But since we're
on it now, Ray Davis.

Speaker 3 (38:30):
Oh, maybe get a yeah. Yeah, the backup.

Speaker 2 (38:33):
As you're looking at, hey, we don't. We can save
you for good because we've got this game in hand.
If it plays to form.

Speaker 3 (38:39):
That actually, yeah, to that point is because then if
you're blowing them out by enough, then you're playing your
backup running back as opposed to you're starting running back.

Speaker 2 (38:47):
And Mitchell Trubisky is in Yeah, I got Mitchie. See
the vision there you go, all right, wide receiver position.
Let's race through it as we don't need to extend
too terribly much because some of the usual suspects right
off the top, Jamar Chase absolutely killing it of late.
Look at the numbers that he's been putting up so
week in week out, it is just absolutely absurd, and

(39:10):
certainly over these last four weeks, when we look at
an average points per game, he's at twenty eight points
per game week twelve by followed by a twenty one,
a forty five and then an eighteen and an Eighteen's
an off day.

Speaker 3 (39:26):
Right, he doesn't hit twenty, It's like, come on, Jamar.

Speaker 2 (39:29):
Come on. So yeah, there you have it. So there's
number one Mike Evans going up against Dallas again, healthy opportunity.
No Trevon Digs in the defensive backfield. There for Dallas,
they've been smarting throughout the season. Here's an opportunity. How
about this last four games eleven twenty six, eleven thirty seven. Yeah,

(39:50):
let's keep going with a good times roll. Hopefully it's
not an odd even pattern like baseball fans will remember
Brett Saberhagen in the mid eighties. There you go, look
it up. We got a'mon Ross Saint Brown twelve twelve,
ten thirty seven, thirty seven going up against Carolina. This
is one I hang a star on it because may
not need him again. Go back to the ground game,

(40:13):
same kind of situation where Detroit comes out and hammers
the Bears in Chicago.

Speaker 3 (40:20):
But I will say with David Montgomery missing, you know, obviously,
like you said, Jamiir Gibbs gets more opportunities. But it
could also mean that they pull a little bit away
from the ground game and start passing more because you
do have such a reliable guy in Saint Brown.

Speaker 2 (40:32):
That's what you call foreshadowing. You've got the opportunity short
intermediate passing, same as a run play as we've seen
them do it. Puka Deakua going up against the Jets.
If you look at the per game average over the
last four weeks, he is fourth amongst wide receivers. Of course,
that includes that forty two point lunacy in that shootout

(40:54):
against the Bills, but his floor during this time seventeen,
So opportunity doth present itself, sorry buddy. And then finally
Justin Jefferson going up against Seattle. I know we've had
some highs and lows for him on the course of
the season. Over the last month going back to week twelve,
he had a five point game, but after that, seventeen, thirty, two,

(41:17):
and twenty look for him to make some Hey, that's
a big game. I can't wait to watch that one.
Between the Vikings, Seattle still vying for a playoff spot.
So justin Jefferson in our good graces once again.

Speaker 3 (41:32):
The Vikings have been so much fun to watch this year,
and it's I mean, maybe it's just me being biased
as a I'm rooting so hard for Sam Darnold as
a Jets fan. I really do want to see him
do well. But yeah, they've been They've been really really
fun to watch.

Speaker 2 (41:47):
I just like it. The more the better he plays,
more people have to be like, oh, it really is us.

Speaker 3 (41:52):
Would you pay him this offseason if you were the Vikings,
because regardless he's going to get paid by someone, I.

Speaker 2 (41:58):
Would say this. I would all for him, say a
two or three year deal, because I got to figure
out what McCarthy is. That's hell there wise, for one,
because he had a second surgery, what does that mean?
But if I look at the overall landscape and they
did sign Daniel Jones, this is some Bucky Brooks and
I actually talked about on our Sunday morning show, Fox

(42:20):
Football Sunday. Join Us each and every week Andy Furman
and I do an hour with Bucky and then Bucky
and I kind of takes some other big picture looks
at the league as a whole, and he pointed out
Astuteley and you saw it in their last game, right,
a lot of sideline shots and what's all going on
big picture? And Daniel Jones getting signed there, So wondering
if Kevin O'Connell with Jones in the building after picking

(42:42):
him up for the Giants, if they don't, maybe think
they can have a reclamation project there on the cheap.
So maybe something just that simmers in the back, right,
Like it's that you know, vegetable that you know you're
just letting steep and eventually it finds its way to
the table or whatever. For Sam Darnold, Like what else

(43:03):
is out in free agency that's going to be even
close to this, right, Kirk Cousins. Maybe there's a trade
that goes into place, and then to fight about how
money gets picked up. But in the draft, what do
you got two guys that you're really excited about? Maybe
and even then folks are like those might be stretches.
I don't know. Chadeur Sanders and Cameron Ward are going

(43:26):
to be the two guys that get drafted early, But
am I convinced that they immediately come in and set
the world on fire. No, they're going to the Giants
and the Raiders.

Speaker 3 (43:34):
Right, and so they wouldn't be going to a team
like the Vikings who just drafted JJ McCarthy.

Speaker 2 (43:39):
Right. Like Vikings obviously are having a great season, they're
not getting they're not drafting. Again, you've got McCarthy. So
it becomes the you can franchise tagg him because again
dollar cost averaging at the quarterback position, you're not paying.
I mean, McCarthy's got his signing bonus is nothing like
he makes nothing, but it's not like the days of
yesteryear when the quarterbacks came in and were making a

(44:00):
ton of money right off the jump. So you've got
that option that you can maybe play that out another
year and that allows McCarthy to get healthy and then
he can truly evaluate where he is or like I said,
I mean the Jones thing that Bucky brought up, I
thought was kind of an interesting wrinkle to it is,
if you think you can salve the gym.

Speaker 3 (44:19):
Yeah, that is because you did salvage Sam Darnald, and
that's you know, I could make Kevin O'Connell, you know,
really feeling himself think all right, I can do it
with Jones as well. But to me, I just feel like,
if you tangibly see Donald playing at this level, I
think you got to pay him, whether it be a
short term deal or a long term one. I know
they drafted McCarthy. I don't. I'm not saying that I

(44:41):
could see them just trading him this offseason, because they did.
They did really like him. But when you have something
that like, you have a known commodity in Donald versus
a mystery box and JJ McCarthy, it's like, say, Donald
is a boat. You know you got a boat here
are you gonna Do you want the boat or do
you want what's behind curtain number two? What's behind curtin
number two? It could even be a boat, It could
be a go the old.

Speaker 2 (45:04):
Trades on all those game shows, could be anything.

Speaker 3 (45:07):
So the point is do you want that or do
you want a known commodity that you see succeeding in
your system? In Darnold anyway, I don't want to you know.

Speaker 2 (45:12):
No, no, no, it's it's one hundred percent a great
talking point Smith and I did it a little bit
on the show. But it's certainly one of those considerations.
And I think, as Stuteley as you point out, it's
either way you've got great options. If you're Minnesota, it's
a good problem that it's a good problem to have.

Speaker 3 (45:31):
Now again, whatever you think of Daniel Jones, getting out
of New York can't be the worst thing for him.
Oh yeah, can he play?

Speaker 2 (45:39):
I don't know. He looked pretty good a couple of
years ago. Not great, but he and Brian Dable that's
why they like they went back to it and he
got paid. Was you saw what Dabel did with Josh Allen.
He got a lot of credit for that.

Speaker 3 (45:51):
He's an NFL quarterback at the very least.

Speaker 2 (45:53):
Right, he's gonna stick around. But the idea of you
paid him thinking you'd get another year, well guess what
he got hurt several games in pretty serious injuries too.
People kind of dismiss it. Again, once you're back on
the field, there's only so much that can do for you, right,
But you know, should you have been back on the field,
that's the other question coming off a neck injury, coming

(46:14):
off the leg injury that he had, because obviously his
game was compromised by the way, you also had your
devoid of talent beyond Neighbors and Tracy and your offensive
line stunk. But hey, that's just me thousand thirty thousand
foot view. All right, that'll do it for the rankings.
When we continue here on I Watch Flex, Ian Roddy
and I we'll get into all of our hot plays,

(46:38):
cold soars, ninjas, and streaming defenses for a huge Week sixteen. Hey,
welcome back in I Watch your Flex Week sixteen. It's
winning time, Ian Roddy with me our executive producer. I'm
Mike Carmen, and thanks for staying with us as we
traverse the fantasy playoffs. All right, let's run through them

(46:58):
the hot plays, cold sores, Ninja's. Before we get to
Ian's defense is hot plays. Anthony Richardson going up against
Tennessee a bit of a price shot. We're going daily
fantasy kind of look, or two quarterback leagues where maybe
we got some upside. So Richardson going up against Tennessee.
Tennessee goes to Mason Rudolph, another new quarterback situation. As
much as I love the potential of Will Levis, at

(47:21):
some point you've got to stop the bleeding, and that's
what they're looking to do here, maybe potentially trying to
play spoiler a little bit in this one. Indianapolis a
three and a half point home favorite. Indianapolis has tied
to a bunch of playoff pursuits this week now, so
this is where it gets fun between them and the
Bengals and other teams that are on that fringe trying
to stay alive. Jared Goff, you alluded to it beautifully

(47:43):
before with no David Montgomery. You don't have the sledge
home hammer to start or close a game, so why
not jump start it with your passing game. Aaron Rodgers
against the Rams. I like what I see in the
last couple of weeks Smith that I have talked about it,
you and I have talked about it on the podcast
and off it's a look more fluid. I don't know
how much healthier he is, but he's at least stepping
into throws and the timing is back. And look what

(48:06):
did a lot of it come in a crunch time,
very compressed window. Yeah, but you got to start somewhere definitely.

Speaker 3 (48:13):
I mean, you know, his his great game last week
was against the Jaguars, so I'm not going to get
too excited about it. But but yeah, I mean to
that point, it's we tangibly see him looking well and
it's not like these are your positional rankings. These are
you know, hot plays that you could see doing well.
So I like it.

Speaker 2 (48:30):
The idea also of playing spoiler and his notes from
this week of hey, I'll come back, I'll be a mentor, right,
might be all lip service and trying to get a
little bit back of the hey, I'm the King of
New York swagger he had when he first showed up
the town. I'm willing to push in a little bit
for the final three weeks.

Speaker 3 (48:48):
Last week does show how easy it is, though, to
just win back over the fans like it really is.
You play bad, your public enemy number one, You play well,
You're the greatest thing that's ever happened. Fans love him
again after a few good games.

Speaker 2 (48:58):
But just like you, weres you looked behind door number two?
What's there? Right? If you move on from Aaron Rodgers's,
what's some easitable alternate because you're not getting one of
those top two guys, right, So what's in the next box,
same thing, idea. Jonathan Taylor going up against Tennessee back
to back big games for him, over a one hundred

(49:19):
total yards in each of those. First time we've been
able to say his name in a while. Jerome Ford
I mentioned him before. Seven carries eighty four yards in
a score last week, averaging five point two yards per carry.
And while I'm concerned about the overall point total, I
believe he gets fed the ball a number of times
here against a bad Cincinnati defense. Bucky Irving against Dallas.

(49:41):
Like we've celebrated Bucky Irving at every turn, you're looking
at eighty eight or more yards three of his last four.
We'll go with him. Brian Thomas Junior going up against
Las Vegas last two games, Ian eighteen catches on twenty
six targets for one hundred and ninety one yards. Doesn't
matter who's throwing the ball. Opportunity for number one receiver
on the other side of that game, Jacoby Myers. I

(50:02):
got to celebrate him four more receptions in every game
since week one.

Speaker 3 (50:07):
How about that?

Speaker 2 (50:08):
Not huge yardage, not massive output, but opportunity. And that's
all we can ask for at this point, which is
why at the back end we're also looking at Juwan
Jennings seven plus targets five of his last six games, opportunities.
Is it always pretty? No? Will this week's be pretty?
I don't know. Miami's an interesting squad here in the

(50:30):
final three weeks, as are the forty nine ers. But
what we know is Jennings is right now the clearly
established number one wide receiver, which means he's no worse
than a mid number two for you this.

Speaker 3 (50:41):
Week, Jennings is uh.

Speaker 2 (50:43):
I don't know that.

Speaker 3 (50:43):
That's one of the bigger, more surprising stories of the
season for me, the fact good run, the fact that
he's the number one over I mean, obviously I Yuke's out,
but even when Ayuk was still in, he was the
number one. And we remember in the Super Bowl not
a lot of people remember this, he was on pace
to be the Super Bowl MVC. We haven't had the
Niners won that game. So yeah, I don't know if

(51:04):
that was the game where his ascension started. I guess
it was, but but yeah, there he is popping up again.

Speaker 2 (51:09):
Yeah, it's funny for the year in PPR leagues, he's
only twenty second amongst wide receivers because there have been
some really big duds and he did miss two games,
so we're talking more in a total point perspective two
games that were missed ahead of the bye. Before that
he had two sub six games. But otherwise we've had
some pretty big games along a little bit of a

(51:30):
roller coaster of late. I'll ride the crest here that
he gets fed with a couple of big plays against Miami.
All right, time for the cold soars c J Stroud
against cancer? How often do I go after CJ Stroud?
Am I being a bully at this point?

Speaker 3 (51:44):
Yeah? I think you are actually well, you should probably
not be wearing that I Hate CJ. Stroud t shirt
you have on doing the show.

Speaker 2 (51:52):
Smith ac cusbya wearing an I Hate Sean Payton earlier
averaging just fourteen points six points over his last three.
It's been a rough go with Bobby Slowick this time around.

Speaker 3 (52:04):
It has.

Speaker 2 (52:04):
You know, the offensive line has been bad. He's holding
the ball a bit too long and no matter what
they've done between Mix and Nico Collins, everybody else, that's
not working. Russell Wilson going up against Baltimore, you look
at his last four games thirteen twenty seven, sixteen eight
point four. I'm out, even with the Ravens defense not
being a world beater, just not Russ. For fantasy purposes,

(52:26):
is mid two for me. Aaron Jones against Seattle, touchdown
three or four, Like he's gonna have to make a big,
big contribution in the passing game, I think for him
to really have some big fantasy value this time around.
On the other side of that game, charbonn Ay, he's
banged up. You've got other players trying to creep in,
but it's it's not the best of matchups, obviously against

(52:47):
a strong Minnesota front. Jayden Reid going up against New
Orleans five catches on six targets, thirty four yards. You
go back to week thirteen, a couple of touchdowns against Miami.
You know he has only one other touchdown since Week seven.

Speaker 3 (53:01):
I did not know that.

Speaker 2 (53:02):
For whatever else is going on in Green Bay, very quietly,
he's slipped to the back. You got Debo. Last double
digit point total was week six.

Speaker 3 (53:13):
It's over.

Speaker 2 (53:14):
He had a good run, too bad. I've got a
rookie card number out of two sitting about. And then
we got Terry McLaurin going up against Philly. Five touchdowns
is last three. Look, you're not benching him. This becomes
just the cautionary tale of I'm checking my options and
I certainly get laundry lists of wide receivers. Somehow. He's
always in there to complicate things and the decision making

(53:35):
process because he's great. But this is a defense playing
about as well as you can right now. Fearful we
don't get any juice from him this week.

Speaker 3 (53:44):
Yeah. Yeah, it's funny because he's always been good, but
I don't think anyone really understood how good until now
that he's got a legit quarterback in Daniels.

Speaker 2 (53:53):
There you go. My long rambling comes to an end
with the Ninjas. Pennix Junior DTR Daily Fan see pickups
for Pennix. Maybe he's a guy you're just going for
the downs. You've got a mid quarterback and a bad
matchup because there's plenty of those on the board. You're like,
I really don't know I can go either way on
a quarterback. So against the Giants, let's push all in

(54:14):
for DTR against Cincinnati. We just know what Cincinnati is.
Could they curb him to the point where He's a
two point player, absolutely, but might there be some glory
to be found. Maybe Kendre Miller going up against Green
Bay last couple of games nineteen carries seventy eight yards.
No Alvin Kamara, so an opportunity for him to take
on a bigger role. Amra Abdullah, We're looking at him

(54:36):
as a receiver. He's got three touchdowns in his last
five games, multiple catches five of his last six, seven
for seven fifty eight and a score in the air
last week for the Hapless Raiders. Ray Ray McLeod mentioned
him earlier, quiet ish but again working on the number
two squad with Pennix. Maybe we find a little lightning

(54:59):
in a bo here for Detroit, how about the Tim Patrick express.
I wanted to go Jamison Williams, like I was kind
of torn. You can flip the coin between these secondary receivers,
and I almost want to go Williams because he was
quiet last time. Five catches, seven yards and then he
had the flip of the football that caused so much
ruckus that maybe they try to feed him early so

(55:20):
he can get his celebration out of the way.

Speaker 3 (55:22):
Yeah, you've got like the big explosive option in Jamison
Williams who could really really hit for you, but could also,
you know, give you a dud zero points. Or Tim
Patrick who's going to give you the higher floor but
a lower ceiling problem.

Speaker 2 (55:33):
There you go. And then finally we mentioned him before,
Marvin Harrison Junior. Arizona's still alive, still an opportunity. Look,
you've seen multiple catches every week since they're by nothing
explosive though, right we've got I think it's one one
hundred yard game on the season. Goes back to the

(55:54):
Kyler Murray and running and waiting for something to really
gel that hasn't but for one week when we need
him most. Let's push to the center of the table
against Carolina.

Speaker 3 (56:06):
Shall we get to my defenses?

Speaker 2 (56:07):
Let's go? Yeah, what do you got, buddy?

Speaker 3 (56:09):
I come to you with three defenses this week, and
actually all three teams we've mentioned at some point throughout
the show.

Speaker 2 (56:14):
All right, Gold, Frankensense, and merv Let's go.

Speaker 3 (56:17):
We'll start with the Atlanta Falcons, who are forty five
percent rostered right now in ESPN Leagues, thirteen sacks over
their last three games, and last week they showed that
they can take advantage of good matchups. They got twenty
one points versus the Raiders. This week they play the Giants,
so that's another good matchup. Why are they a good matchup?
They have allowed the fourth most fantasy points per game

(56:39):
to opposing defenses. So the Falcons again they've shown they
can take advantage of good matchups. This is a good matchup.
Drew lock is starting at QB. Don't overthink it. I
think the Falcons are a good play this week.

Speaker 2 (56:49):
Yeah, Drew Locke back under center. Atlanta aggressive turnover potential
is there?

Speaker 3 (56:55):
Next the Indianapolis Colts. They are a lot less roster
twenty seven percent rostered, so be available in most leagues.
They're playing against the Tennessee Titans, who you also mentioned.
They've allowed the most fantasy points per game to opposing defenses.
Last week, the Bengals got eighteen fantasy points on them,
and it actually would have been even more had Jordan
Battle not dropped the football as he was about to

(57:16):
cross the line. That would have got them a defensive touchdown.
So still eighteen points despite him not getting them that touchdown.
The Colts defense hasn't been great this year, but with
this matchup they've got a chance to give you a
great performance, and that's what you look for in streaming defenses.
So I like the Colts, and then last the Bengals,
who are fifty percent rosters available in half a league's.

(57:38):
Like I said, they took advantage of a great matchup
last week, getting eighteen fantasy points versus the Titans. This
week though they have another great matchup. They're facing the Browns.
As we've been talking about, they're starting Dorian Thompson Robinson DTR.
This I thought was an interesting stat here. DTR actually
has a higher interception rate in his career than Jameis

(57:58):
Winston does. And as we know, Jamis is known.

Speaker 2 (58:01):
For yeah pretty much as Hallmark thor crab legs and eating.

Speaker 3 (58:05):
W Yeah exactly. So I had it been Jamis starting,
I still would have liked the Bengals here. But now
we're putting in someone who's a newer quarterback, way less experienced,
and he has a higher interception rate. So I really
like the Bengals here. All three are strong, strong start
somebody like this.

Speaker 2 (58:19):
Tied for ninth in takeaways this year are the Bengals
with twenty twelve interceptions eight fumbles. The problem is they've
given the ball away eighteen times to mitigate some of
those games. No, that's great stuff. As we continue here,
it's week sixteen. We'll be with you all the way
through the Super Bowl here and I watch Flags dan

(58:40):
Ian and I back with you on Monday night to
recap the havoc, the chaos, and of course that great
Green Bay, New Orleans game as we get you ready
for Championship week. We appreciate you hanging out with us
as you are in the holly holly holiday hustle and bustle.
Be safe out there, and thanks for staying with us

(59:01):
at E and Roddy Underscore where you find him on Twitter.
Send Dan a love note at Dan Byron Fox. Find
me over at Swollen Dome. Good luck this weekend as always,
fire up the roster questions. If nothing else, we start
to figure out who's still alive, and by that I
mean what players have gotten you to the Promised Land.
Send them over at Swollen Dome. We appreciate you, thanks

(59:22):
for hanging out with us, and I watch your flex
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