September 16, 2025 • 49 mins
It's Fox Sports Radio's official fantasy football podcast! Dan Beyer and Mike Harmon open up the show with their thoughts and reactions following the Monday Night Football doubleheader! What's up with Ashton Jeanty and Omarion Hampton? Should we be concerned about Nico Collins' target share? Then they move into the rest of the Week 2 slate, weighing in on all of the biggest games and examining the studs and duds from a fantasy standpoint. Later, Mike shares his top waiver wire targets of the week!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 4 (00:33):
A double dose in Week two. Things wrap up with
Monday Night football.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
Welcome in. He is Mike Harmon.
Speaker 4 (00:40):
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Speaker 1 (00:46):
Let's dive into it, and.
Speaker 4 (00:48):
I guess first things first, when we talk about how
Week two ended Monday night football schedule double header, it's
the only double header we're going to get this year.
There will be nights where we get two games on
Monday night, but a true doubleheader. I know that the
eastern part of the country hates it, and that's out
here on the West Coast love it. But this is
just a one time deal for this season. Mike, you
(01:10):
four or against what we got in week two with
this schedule.
Speaker 5 (01:13):
So long as I'm on air during the games, I'm
good with it. Dan, Right, listen to a little of
the radio broadcast on the drive up to the studios,
get to watch the full second half plus, and then
get ready for a night cap.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Yeah, I'm in.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Let's go.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
I'm game two. I can understand why some people may
not be keen to it, or if someone's watching the
Chargers and Raiders and are saying, listen, I've given up
my Sunday night. I've given up my Thursday night. Now
I got to do this again on Monday night. But
small sacrifice to pay when you're sitting there in mid
May and there's no football to deal with.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
I'm a fan of it as well. I don't like
the staggerd start Ian.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
I don't know if you're a fan of it or not,
but it was I like this setup we miss I'm
driving home, Mike, you're driving into work, so I'm missing
like the first part of the Buccaneers and Texans game
listening to it on the radio. I guess I have
a biased point of view because I'm like, well, I'm
only missing the first part.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
I get to see the end.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
Maybe that's what bothers East Coast people so much, But
I like this one better than the one that starts
at four fifteen and then another game at five point
forty five.
Speaker 6 (02:18):
More football than never a bad thing, And I feel
like one of these games, whichever one, wouldn't have been
on Monday night otherwise had it not been a doubleheader,
it just you know, gets lost in the fold on Sunday.
So it's actually nice to have another game that you're
fully plugged into.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
I'm also fully aware that I just set a time
that the Central and Eastern time zones just like it
blew their mind, you know, to have a game at
like at five, what are you talking about?
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Sure, four fifteen, Like that's what.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
About six fifteen, seven fifteen, seven thirty eight o'clock because
those are the times that it is out there.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
But yeah, I didn't I didn't mind it.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
But I guess in a way too, if I'm sitting
there watching the Chargers, you know, run another clock against
the Raiders, and it's twelve thirty at night and I
got work the next day, maybe it's not the greatest thing,
but I much rather have this than miss action and
try to toggle back and forth between the two games,
like we're gonna get later on in the season.
Speaker 5 (03:14):
Yeah, we got a couple more times over the course
of the season. And it's the one off, as you say,
And like on the West Coast, we miss a lot
of the early parts of games. Like people laugh all
the time West Coast games where there's a late arriving crowd.
It's not just because it's la it's like because you're
sitting in traffic as people are leaving from work who
have no care in the world about the game about
(03:36):
to be played. Right, and East Coast you get it
in your nice primetime window. So you know, oftentimes the
West Coast gets pushed to the side now games that
are later, I get it. You know, you may be
a little groggy at work, you know, But as Kevin
Durant once taught us, you don't like it.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
Don't watch.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
That's absolutely right. I don't know if the Raiders liked
what they.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
Saw, Oh no, no, they did not for it.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
We totally moved to that.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
I do want to say, Week four is the next
time we get a double Monday night, weekend or night
if you will, Jets Dolphins Ian.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
So your Jets seven to fifteen Eastern, four to fifteen Pacific.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
Yeah, and then you got Bengals Broncos now with a
Joe Burrow less Bengals team at eight fifteen Eastern time,
five to fifteen Pacific. So we have Lions Ravens by
themselves next week, and then the week after is another
double dip, but not the true double header anyway, gets you. Yeah,
speaking of the of bad football, tough one for the
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Raiders turning it over. But it's the rookie running backs
that are standing out to me, not in a good
way in that game. It's that's the that's my takeaway.
I thought Ashton Genty had to carry in the first
quarter and like all right, here we go, and there
was just no more of that Omarion Hampton a fumble
so far the rookies that we had such high hopes
(04:55):
for getting off to a kind of slow start in
this fantasy season.
Speaker 5 (04:58):
Yeah, I mean we had the botch hand off attempt
between Herbert and Hampton late to try to seal things,
which at least opened the door for a minute until
Gino sailed one on a fourth down play fifteen yards
out of bouts. Like we actually joked on airic Jason Smith,
and I it's like it was he making a business
decision that he didn't want a four in the interception
col almost like what the hell? Just absolutely insane, but
(05:22):
certainly that the concerns echoed, Like we were talking about
it a little before we got together here to start
recording Dan of you know, people pressing the panic button
of putting guys like Hampton or genty up in the
trade market based on early returns like okay for the
Chargers a bunch of stuff in the off season, right,
and then you lose Slater, you bring in Hampton, you
(05:45):
had to shuffle your offensive line. Najie Harris was brought
in to be that guy. He has the eye injury
off of the fourth of July, so you know he
was still at least early on going to be a factor.
So with Hampton, I'd take a little with a grain
of assault.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
And certainly the fumbles not good.
Speaker 5 (06:02):
And if Justin Herbert's the guy I think he is,
he's probably gonna put him on himself for not giving
him that. And let's face it, they didn't do anything
to stop Max Crosby. Like I likened it too. I
just went and saw the fiftieth anniversary of Jaws on
the giant screen. There's that scene where Richard Dreyfuss is
in the shark cage and he's looking around, where did
it go? It's all murky, and then he turns like,
oh damn it, there's the shark that was Max Crosby
(06:24):
ready to hammer him as he turned. If you put
the ball away, his eyes got wide and he put
it on the carpet. For Ascia Jenty, we got a
little bit of a question of how much he really
wants anything if he doesn't have a full head of
steam going three catches or yeah, three catches for one yard,
not nothing after the after contact, after the catch, and
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then on passing downs, looks very uncomfortable to where he's
off the field a bunch. And then he had that
one run, cool spin move, great highlight, but that was it.
Otherwise he was contained. Now you take it with a
grain of salt, I guess to the idea of the
Chargers defense, we anticipate that they're going to be good,
but yeah, I'm a big concern because I didn't like
that offensive line coming into the year, and they did
(07:08):
nothing to allay any of those fears today.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
I'll tell you the Texans, we had fears because there
was no Joe Mixon, but Nick Chubb getting a late
run for the Texans, and then it's Rashad White cashing
in when the Buccaneers needed the most. Bucky Irving's great
like he is, but I was just a bit surprised
at how the second fiddle guys like the Chubb, like
(07:33):
the Rashad White had such a role in modern nights game.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (07:36):
Nick Chubb basically did the I'm falling forward, He's like
six to one right, six feet yeah, so like two
yards of carry until that scamper after the big punt
return where that flag mysteriously got picked up. But that's
for another time. We could talk about penalties across the
league from the larger football standpoint, but yeah, Houston has
the early success with the ten points in the first quarter,
(07:59):
and then the off goes dormant for the most part
for the Tampa side. I wonder if for Sean White
didn't get a little bit of a that a boy
for picking up that Baker Mayfield fumble where he hits
it with his off hand and you play a little
bit of sledgehammer late. Yeah, good to see him hang
out of the ball ten for sixty five in a
touchdown look Bucky Irving. Fantasy owners got their love because
(08:21):
they did a brilliant checkdown. Check down. We talked about it,
Baker Mayfield brilliant in terms of not pushing it right.
If you're gonna give me the underneath with Bucky Irving
and then these guys are going to do a half
ass arm tackle like the guy's too strong for what
they were trying to do, and putting the linebackers one
on one in coverage gave him great opportunity. I'll take
(08:41):
a guy with twenty three touches for one hundred and
twenty one yards. Yeah, I didn't find the end zone,
but you know they if he's going to be that
active in the pass game, then you certainly have something there.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
I thought it was interesting just White's number of carries
because they even showed the graphic on the broadcast of
just the increase in runs that the Buccaneers had from
twenty twenty three to twenty twenty four when they were
the team, you know, a bottom part of the NFL
in rushing attempts, and two years ago then they were
(09:12):
up the fourth last year, if this is the type
of football that you want to play, and I know
that Chris Godwin's making his way back, I don't know
on what sort of role Chris Godwin's going to have
to really if that would really change how Tampa would
play anyway, But I just was starting to wonder, like
for a team that probably does have bigger aspirations than
(09:35):
maybe just coming out on top of the NFC South,
that this two running back committee could be a role
with Tampa. And I don't think it's going to come
into Bucky Irving's numbers, but I just feel that maybe
if Rashad White plays this sort of way, that he
could find a role in fantasy lineups, because I thought
he was a big factor on Monday Night, and I
(09:56):
felt like, if now, if you're Tampa and you're looking at.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
How you want to have your run game, that could
be a viable option down the line.
Speaker 5 (10:02):
Yeah, certainly he'll be one of the waiver wire guys
that people will be adding off of a big workload.
How much of it is a scheme against this particular defense.
Right when we talk about the pass rushers, we talk
about how good their secondary is, So maybe the idea
is a sledgehammer approach. Thirty carries overall one hundred and
sixty nine yards. Now thirty three of that is the
(10:24):
Baker Mayfield scrambles. But twice he came up where I
thought maybe he'd ripped his knees. So I was getting
a little nervous right as he had one where he
caught in the cleaton. The other did the somersault, and
then he met ran into his old buddy Chauncey as
he called him in the postgame. Good old CJ. Gardner
Johnson getting after it. Always good for a good trash
(10:45):
talking session. But maybe maybe a little bit of a
different yo yo string after Baker Mayfield got his last
two coordinators head coaching jobs, that maybe you go right
to balance a bit.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
CJ.
Speaker 4 (10:59):
Strob didn't get Bobby Slowick fired, but it sure didn't
help with the season that he had last year.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
And we didn't put it all on CJ.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
Stroud's shoulders, like you talked about the Texans offensive line
or lackdaro of last year, and it was a big
concern coming into this year. But now if you have
shares a Nico Collins and you see a game like tonight,
great catch that he makes to get the touchdown, But
my goodness, if he doesn't have the touchdown, what an
awful start.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
To the season that you've got in Houston.
Speaker 4 (11:31):
I'm not panicking yet, but I'm starting to get a
little bit worried for a team that we didn't have
extreme high expectations for. Rams are a good defense. I
think the Buccaneers are a good defense. You've got Jacksonville
next week. If it doesn't happen in week three for
the Texans, I'm then I'm hitting the panic.
Speaker 5 (11:53):
Yeah, I think you sound the alarms, right. You just
go through that receiving core. What else do you got?
I mean, Dalton Schultz is solid, but what's he a
high two? From a fantasy and weekly production kind of standpoint,
you don't have a discernible number two right now. In
terms of your pass catchers. You're looking at Hutchinson and
(12:14):
Higgins wishing and hoping and neither of their you know,
plays were just out of the Hey sequence and fire
them up. The past to Higgins was improvisational by Stroud
of Hey, turn back to me.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
I've got it.
Speaker 5 (12:30):
Maybe a shot down field, but you popped open so here. Yeah,
without a number two. I mean, you're gonna have bracket
coverage and problems. I mean, and again, if Chubb's not
gonna be able to and Woody marks for what he's used,
You're not going to be able to establish the run game.
You're you're not gonna be able to suck up the
linebackers creating space for.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
For Stroud to operate.
Speaker 5 (12:53):
So yeah, I'm already probably what defcon won's the worst.
I'm probably at least inching towards two already.
Speaker 4 (13:02):
Well, you know, in last year when Stefan Diggs was
there as a free agent, it was like he and
Diggs works. I remember I shares in tank Dell, and
Dell was not the guy anymore because Diggs was and
Nico Collins was still getting his Like you're like, wow,
look out for Houston. Now they used to second round
pick on Jayden Higgins. He gets one target for one
(13:25):
you know catch CJ. Stroud's throwing more to Dalton Schultz
than anybody not named Nico Collins.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
So there's, yeah, there's there's concern.
Speaker 4 (13:35):
Even if this Buccaneers defense is maybe better and I
get a Tampa the ball for like thirty eight minutes.
Sure on Monday night, So there's there's only so much
you can do. But when they did have the football,
it wasn't wasn't that impressive. And now when you're sitting there,
taking Nico Collins maybe back in first round, early second
round in a PPR league, Yeah, this is not the
(13:55):
start you wanted to start the year.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
Yeah, I have some shares at old Nico there.
Speaker 6 (13:59):
Yeah, Well, would you guys consider trading Nico right now?
Because he just came off this game where he did
get that you know, crucial touchdown, like you said, Dan,
no guarantee he gets it every week. Now might be
the time to sell high, right.
Speaker 5 (14:13):
I don't know how high it is though, Yeah, Like
that's the only question is you know what would be
commensurate value if you put him in the marketplace, Like
we were talking about with the running backs right after
two weeks. Well, nervous maybe about both guys, But like
with Collins, if nothing else, we know he's going to
(14:33):
get a bunch of targets. Whether that translates to big games.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (14:39):
Because he got targeted a couple times in the end
zone there's no space so because there's just way too
much coverage.
Speaker 6 (14:46):
So with a player like that. There isn't really a
full on panic mode unless we're like, you know, mid
season and he still looks relatively average.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
I'll tell you what it is.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
Ian, And I know you're younger, but it's like you're
locked into a low interest rate on a house and
interest rates are just way too high. Sure, so you're like,
I can't do anything right now because I'm not gonna
be able to get what I actually want for you know,
something else, or so if you trade Nico Collins right now,
(15:19):
no one's going to give you anything for it.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
I see what you're saying.
Speaker 6 (15:22):
I see what you're saying. The fact that he had
a touchdown tonight makes it more because he did have
what fifteen Fantasy points, fourteen points something. It's not like
he just had done of a game. It's like next week,
Yeah you got your fourteen plus. Yeah I no, So,
I mean, you got your points, and I get it
to your point. But what are you trading him out for?
Speaker 3 (15:42):
Yeah? And like that that.
Speaker 5 (15:43):
You're getting back, right, because what are you gonna get
a number two running back somewhere?
Speaker 3 (15:47):
You're not getting a Bell cow right.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
That touchdown is, by the way, is just cologne. Over
bo because it's three catches for fifty two yards the
touchdown save the day. Right, he doesn't have that touchdown,
you're looking at a two catch performance.
Speaker 5 (16:04):
Yeah, I mean the beauty of it is you were
able to pocket that one early, right, So now you're
just hoping for a massive day. But I look at it,
nine targets. Who the hell else is he throwing the
ball to?
Speaker 3 (16:17):
Right?
Speaker 5 (16:17):
And that means you may have some feast or famine games.
But I don't think that's unlike some of the other
guys where we've been talking about that we have the
expectations for now. Maybe with the Giants, things change. If
Russ is going to be winging the ball around, you're
also not going to play a Beleague or Dallas Secondary
every week. Our guy Brian Thomas, he's struggling now, he's hurt.
(16:42):
But in Jacksonville, like that was what we said last year, right,
It's like, all right, he got his numbers with nobody
around him, because who the hell else are they gonna
throw it to.
Speaker 6 (16:51):
Well, he's an example of someone who you're kind of
screwed now, is because he doesn't have a game that
you can point to and be like, look, still like
this is in his range of out with Nico.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
There is that, but you are saying.
Speaker 5 (17:03):
But I mean for both, you can sell on what
they've done in the past. Sure, and hope people aren't
paying attention to the receiving course around you.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Yeah, here's and here's the thing. And this is this
is why.
Speaker 4 (17:14):
I love Ian on this podcast because he says was
what he feels. Even if Mike.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
Disagrees or I disagree, I would just say to Ian,
what's the difference between Brian Thomas is four for forty
nine that Nico Collins is three for fifty two. Well,
it's the touchdown. It's the one touchdown right which the
Texans have scored won this season, And so like, that's
my that's my like worry some portion of it of.
Speaker 4 (17:40):
They didn't score a touchdown against the Rams. They now
are pretty much styied and couldn't control the ball against
the Buccaneers.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
To Mike's point, there's no running game that teams are
going to be able to.
Speaker 4 (17:52):
Focus on, or are running game that the Texas could
even have to hold onto the ball.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
For thirty minutes in a game. So that's where I'm
starting to just worry about the Texans, and I think
the Buccaneers are good. But two games in against two.
Speaker 4 (18:04):
Solid opponents, I just we're not hitting a panic button yet.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
We're just a little worried.
Speaker 4 (18:10):
If things are like this next week against Jacksonville, then
I think that we've got concern.
Speaker 5 (18:14):
But I do love the question right at week two,
because let's face it, it's also very different league to
league in terms of what you think you can actually
get done in the trade market.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
Right.
Speaker 5 (18:26):
Generally, I've been in leagues where it's a lot of
folks who make one hundred percent of their living doing
nothing but fantasy talk. So the last thing they're going
to do is make a trade that potentially makes them
look foolish. Sure, or they just give you a barrage
of offers just so you'll say yes, so you'll say.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
Lead me the blank alone, yes.
Speaker 5 (18:48):
And so that's generally how it goes. So there's not
usually a lot of trading. Usually it's the draft, it's
waiver wire plays, and that's really most of the leagues
I've participated in. But for those that do have a
more active league and folks are willing to take a shot, Yeah,
it's always that curious spot of where have you seen
enough in the continuum of an NFL season, right, because
(19:12):
we don't get a massive run up. We got seventeen games, right,
six seventeen well, eighteen weeks, seventeen games, and you've got
to try to decide where your line is the saying
have you seen enough? And based on the way the
schedule makers do things to your point, Dan, I mean,
look at what some of these schedules have been right
(19:32):
off the jump, right, the Chiefs, everybody's panicking, Well, you
played two really good defensive squads. I'm not saying they're good,
and Patrick Mahomes certainly left a lot of points on
the board, not being able to connect downfield errant deep balls,
Travis Kelce whatever the hell he's doing in the red
zone back to back weeks and so on. But like
(19:53):
the schedule makers in playing some of these games, like
you're looking at the well, they've got the two of
the games right off the jump, I mean, look at
look at the Chargers, right, so they play the Raiders today,
they go right back to Denver. Well, Denver after two weeks,
are any anywhere near the team defensively that you thought
they were going to be coming in?
Speaker 3 (20:13):
Well?
Speaker 5 (20:13):
Yeah, I mean, that's that's all the questions that we have.
You know, is that enough of a sample.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Size can Justin Herbert be Danny Dimes or as I
saw on Sunday, Indiana.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
Jones actually done.
Speaker 4 (20:25):
I saw that that was starting in a game gain
some traction as well. All Right, we got to take
a time out. The I Want Your Flex podcast is here.
It Mike I bat Swollen Dome. You can find me
at Dan Byer on Fox and get Ian at Ian
Roddy Underscore. We're gonna stand take a hit on what
stood out from us from the other games in Week
two from the full.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Slate of Sunday.
Speaker 4 (20:46):
Plus at the end of the show, Mike's got some
waiver wire pickups that you're gonna need to and trust me,
this week you're gonna need to, especially at the quarterback
position that's next here.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
And I Want your Flex, as we always talk about
here out I Want your Flex.
Speaker 4 (21:01):
We love to break down on how the schedules sort out,
and Mike during my Red Zone show that I have
on Sunday with Carrie, we had one more game in
our late window than Monday Night had, So Monday Night
of two games, we had three on Sunday Chiefs Eagles
was a standout, but we touched on Broncos Colts just
kind of there at the end and having some fun
(21:22):
with Daniel Jones and what the Colts are doing.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
But man, they are doing it.
Speaker 4 (21:27):
And right now we just got off talking about Houston,
or just got done talking about Houston.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
They're zero and two to start the season. We thought
they were going.
Speaker 4 (21:34):
To be maybe the team to beat in the AFC South,
and here the Colts are two and zero putting up
crazy fantasy numbers.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
Jonathan Taylor is running wild.
Speaker 4 (21:42):
That's what stood out to me against to your point,
at Denver defense that we expected a lot more of,
and Indy was able to get it done in controversial fashion.
But even if they don't get that late penalty and
kick the field goal, We're still looking at Daniel Jones
and Jonathan Taylor as success stories.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
In fantasy, no question about it.
Speaker 5 (21:58):
And you know in Chicago they would love a tight
end that would have been drafted this year that actually
contributes to the box score. But I'll save by Ryan
Holds Skewering for another time. No look coming into the
year on our board out in the producer's studio, I
thought the Colts would win the AFC South. I'm all
in on Danny Danny Dimes, Indiana Jones, whatever we're going
(22:22):
to call him this week, a nickname not yet found
to be able to lead things going back to his
time with the Giants, sixty eight percent completion rate, three
touchdowns per pick. Now, injury issues and fumbling issues certainly
were there. But while you don't have a true number
one wide receiver, as long as Jonathan Taylor's healthy, I
(22:44):
think I can get some balance in my offense. What
they've done through two weeks is really outstanding, no question
about it.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
And you know.
Speaker 5 (22:52):
The sustainability of twenty five or more points per game
certainly a question.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
But I like what I've seen those far. I mean Stike,
and we've been waiting to see the genius actually be
genius Dan and it's finally starting to pay off a
little bit.
Speaker 4 (23:09):
Yeah, they go to Tennessee in week three for a
divisional showdown, first road test for the Colts, and why
the pass catchers may not have been putting up the
big numbers that you would hope with like a Michael
Pittman Jr.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
To your point about Tyler Warren.
Speaker 4 (23:23):
I mean, the only bad thing that really happened to
the Colts on Sunday was that they ran him in
a fourth and short situation instead of giving the ball
to Jonathan Taylor or having Daniel Jones taken himself.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
But he's been active.
Speaker 4 (23:37):
Seven targets, four catches for seventy nine yards, their leading
receiver in that contest.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
So it's been all good with the horseshoe. That's what
stood out for me in Week two? What stood up
for you? What game? What matchup? What players?
Speaker 5 (23:48):
Mike Well, I think as we look around the board, right,
you're trying to find the diamond in the rough and
the quarterback position certainly one. We're talking about a lot
with the injuries that came out of it, but we
already had to look at San Francisco with Alabama Max
he we're just gonna give everybody nicknames. Now with Mac
Jones taken over for what is already a beleaguered forty
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nine er squad, Now you end up getting a five
for eighty nine on a score from Juwan Jennings. If
you had the guts to play him, you got rewarded.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
We saw Christian.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Mccaffrez, Yeah right, I mean too.
Speaker 5 (24:21):
Yeah, right, So there were questions of his availability. Certainly
Kittle being gone for me had I had questions. Not
only would they'd be able to do passing, but he's
so instrumental of what they want to do running the football,
So how much would that bog it down?
Speaker 1 (24:36):
Now?
Speaker 3 (24:36):
I know it's the Saints, but they were pretty plucky.
Spencer Rattler did not go away.
Speaker 5 (24:42):
I learned a lot about and they had a great
respect for him because he just kept coming right. They
could have folded up at any point, but they they
played them pretty evenly over the course of this game.
As Shaheed one of our favorites, Juwan Johnson, whatever. But
for the forty nine ers, Mac Jones two sevent nine
and three, Christian McCaffrey with another nineteen touch game, goes
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over one hundred yards, has the receiving touchdown, and I
felt and breathed a little easier at least for the
moment of mac Jones being the guy to guide this
because certainly, if you were a Christian McCaffrey owner, with
all of the wounded warriors around you, you're going, oh boy,
here we go. And at least for a week you
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staved that off is it long term successful? I don't know,
but we've seen Shanahan have success which led us to
the brock Olypse.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
Anyway, yeah, per right.
Speaker 4 (25:36):
I hited the level with Ricky Piersall, but because of
Perty's injury, I decided to not play him. In the end,
it didn't matter with my game, but Pearsal did get
six targets at four catches for fifty six yards. I
think you're going to be playing that game of do
I play Piersall, is it Jettings or is it Pearsall
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that gets the numbers? And depending how long how long
Purty is out, which we expect two to four week
injury or so, so it could be this Arizona game
as well. And then they've got a unique situation with
their a short week with the Rams at week five,
so the week four game you don't want to play him,
and then you're not likely going to play.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
In week five. This could be a four game injury.
Speaker 4 (26:18):
I just don't know if over the next month I'm
I feel good about playing a guy like Ricky Piersall
right now, just because I don't know if it's going
to be him or Jennings in this match.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
If it was.
Speaker 4 (26:29):
Party I would feel a little bit better, but with
Mac I'm still not completely sold.
Speaker 5 (26:34):
No, I mean certainly the history would say, all right,
I want to wait and see. Right, It's like we're
talking about jumping ship on guys who are are we
have proof of concept success in the past. For Mac Jones,
it's a long time since that early success before they
started mucking around with offensive coordinators and everything else there
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in New England and the chaos. I would be miss
and like to do one more matchup before we grab
you in because we'll grab a lot of the quarterbacks.
I think off of the injury stuff as we as
we continue. But from a straight matchup perspective, that Dallas
Giants game was insane, like on myriad levels. When we
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talk about Javonte Williams ninety seven yards in a score
right being that guy again, ced Goos for nine one twelve,
Prescott three sixty one in two like the last five
minutes of that might have been some of the most
entertaining football I've seen in quite some time.
Speaker 6 (27:34):
You gotta think dable Brian Dabele must I don't even
know if this has crossed his mind or not, but
with how good Daniel Jones has looked through two weeks
in Indy. That was really really important for Dable to
coach a game like that where his quarterback threw for
you know, four hundred plus yards, because otherwise, if the
Giants still look like one of the worst teams in
the league continuously and Daniel Jones, the guy they had,
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you know, keeps looking like potentially one of the best
quarterbacks in the league.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
I mean that that's.
Speaker 6 (28:01):
An issue for Dable. Yeah, it's It's.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
A really good point.
Speaker 4 (28:05):
And I actually just think that the ship is even
sailed to that point, Like even if if rushed through
for eight hundred yards, like I don't think that he
would still make up for that.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
But I think that you're spot on.
Speaker 4 (28:16):
And and now this is the this is the the
guy that you invested in allowed or forced you to
not resign Saquon Barkley, so then he won a Super Bowl.
And then because you invested in him and couldn't make
it work, that other guy leaves and then he comes
becomes the starter. Like it's just just gets your bad
to worse for Dable and Joe Shane. I mean, it's awful.
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And I'll say this about the Giants here, I'm all
about Tyrone Tracy as a sleeper and Scataboo ends up
taking you know, playing a big role. I think players
feet off of him as well. I'm curious to see
how that plays out. Now, you got the Chiefs on
Sunday night, so we'll get the main look on it.
But Malik Neighbors and want Dale Rob's ensure seem to
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have some value right now.
Speaker 5 (29:01):
Well, we got to see the moon ball come back
into full effect and again that you hang an asterisk
on it, because we knew coming into the game the secondary,
with Bland being out and with Digs still on a
pitch count, that you were probably going to be able
to make some hay and go win some of those
one on one battles. Now Wandale Robinson having his eight
of ten for one hundred and forty two in a
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score probably not what we had on the chart by
but it also becomes a all right, there's one of
the guys on the wire, right, He's been one of
the darlings in years past. You and I talking Dan
and just trying to figure out where where you fit
and where you can get a w R two or
three kind of scenario where a guy plays out now again,
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it's not going to get this wild and wooly and whatever.
Congratulations to those Brandon Aubrey owners out there, you got
your your massive payoff. But for scat about coming in
and really giving them that juice as a runner and
then with a couple of catches as well, the tyrone
Tracy love that I had a year ago. Again, owing
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back to the Saquon Barkley thing, it's all it's more
optics than reality, because how many games were you gonna
win if you'd kept him around? And I'll pay the
quarterback ninety nine and a half times out of one hundred.
Just where I can't have it is I have a
phone call to the guy begging him to call us
back before he signs, and then having him go in
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division to a much better team. Yeah, so the optics
of it are terrible. I still think I would have
played it out the same way. But where you're at
now is all right. Russ's place holding. I was curious
watching the game develop where Jackson Dart kept checking back in.
I'm not quite sure what we were trying to see there,
but you know, Russ has his moonballs and unfortunately threw
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the one that ended up costing.
Speaker 4 (30:54):
I also think, unfortunately, that there are going to be
people who pick up quarterbacks because of the injuries this
week that are going to be disappointed.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
If you pick up Russell Wilson. You got Chiefs Chargers
the next two games, yep.
Speaker 4 (31:09):
And then you get the Saints, so maybe in early
October that's a possibility. Then you have Eagles Broncos, so
that would be and wait, Eagles Broncos, Eagles the Eagles.
Speaker 5 (31:21):
That's a great that's a great schedule for you, right there.
Great schedule makers, God, I love you.
Speaker 4 (31:27):
One of which on a short week, but so but still, yeah,
it's completely awful.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
But that's so like I.
Speaker 4 (31:34):
Don't know of the extreme value Russell Willson is not
going to be throwing for four hundred and fifty yards
in those games, so I kind of feel like the
moment with him has passed as well, but kind of
like along the Wandale Robinson stuff.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
But it's it was great to see.
Speaker 4 (31:52):
It was an exciting game, Mike, to your point, and
it provided a lot of a lot of ups and
downs and George Pickens got into the end zone for Dallas.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
That was a good one. On Yeah, good one on something.
Speaker 3 (32:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (32:02):
So I mean, look, we get seventy seven points of offense.
I mean because in week one, I think we had
what three of these sixteen games actually hit the over
in the over undertotal, So to get one that exciting
and more fantasy viability. But to your point with the
giant schedule, Dan, if you go chasing, you know, don't
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go chasing waterfalls. Like Michael Keaton taught us in the Other.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
Guys Ian, what what game stood out to you in
week two?
Speaker 6 (32:30):
I mean your Seahawks, Dan, the Jackson Smith and I
mean it's more of a player specific player, but Jackson
Smith and Jig. But through two weeks, Sam Donald's targeted
him twenty three times. It's it's just insane. It's like
go back to Justin Jefferson last year. Sam Donald clearly
knows how to pick his favorite guy. Yeah, hone in
on him and you know it's it's good for fantasy JSN.
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I have him in a few places.
Speaker 4 (32:52):
It's unfortunately a second favorite guy is someone in the
other uniform.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
Yeah twice, No, this.
Speaker 4 (32:58):
Is this is Sam Darnald is going all the way
back to college days. Yeah, and even at USC do
he would throw interceptions. It's kind of like you got
to take it. But he did make some big throws,
including that throw to JSN that kind of sealed the
deal for them and allowed them to get the touchdown. Completely,
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trust him completely. Cooper Cup had nine targets, seven catches
for ninety yards in that game.
Speaker 6 (33:24):
Yeah, you got him a little more involved.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
Yeah yeah.
Speaker 4 (33:27):
And so like it's he has his favorites and that's
who he's going to go to. And another knock on
Darnold is that he may not make it through the
route tree completely because he just wants to throw it
to his guys so much. And I think that you
can you can see more of that on the flip side.
You look at DK metcalf and you say six targets
and three catches twenty yards and that that touchdown. It's
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it's it's just not there. It's not there anymore. Like I,
I just I don't believe that whatever it is with
DK as a as a player, He's got everything, size, speed,
the whole deal.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
You can win jump balls, you can fly past you.
Speaker 4 (34:08):
It's just not translating into fourteen targets, eleven catches in
one hundred and fifty yards and that's what's so frustrating.
And if you're going to be hoping for that, it's
not going to come in Pittsburgh, and it's not going
to come in the form of DK Metcalf.
Speaker 5 (34:21):
Let me ask one question, going back to our original conversation,
right we did in the first segment talking about wide receivers,
the cells, sell sheet and whatever. What do you do
with the two guys in Philadelphia.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
Well, I've never been high on AJ Brown.
Speaker 4 (34:39):
He's I acquired him in a trade two years ago
and he's stunked on the stretch and he's one of
those guys where you're like, I just swear off of.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
And I've never liked the the antics.
Speaker 4 (34:51):
Even didn't buy the book stuff, you know, on the sidelines,
Not like I'm buying the book, but you know, I
didn't buy his story of that.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
He's deep into it.
Speaker 4 (35:01):
The whole point is, Mike, I would not buy To
answer your question, I'm not buying a J. Brown, not
buying DeVante Smith, And I guess that means I'm also
really not buying Jalen Hurts.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
In the passing game right now.
Speaker 5 (35:14):
They just seem to want to run the ball, right,
But that's the thing right, No, Dallas Goddard this week,
what was it, one hundred and one yards?
Speaker 3 (35:22):
Is where you got to in the past game.
Speaker 6 (35:24):
It's just like the way that they have been going
to the Toush push. It's starting to really annoy me,
you know. And I already admittedly with someone who kind
of just wants the Toush push gone, I'm like that.
Speaker 5 (35:34):
But I think there was a report that they were
starting to anybody pushing out the video about the false start,
and yeah, they're trying to that. They were pulling it
off of a scrubbing it from the internet. Yeah, it's
it's crazy. They just don't want people to see or
talk about it because all the false starts. But yeah,
it just seems like there's you know, uh, handed to
Saquon on first, okay, four yard gain, you know, handed
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to Saquon again, two yard gain, Toush push, don't get it,
okay toach Bush again. It's just like, can we play football, please?
I get it if you're on the goal line, but
this is getting ridiculous.
Speaker 4 (36:06):
I didn't I didn't hear the broadcast, but someone said
Brady said that the egos basically at first to nine,
because if you get anywhere close to it, and you
know they'll just do the They'll do that, they'll do
the play. I saw Mike Renner tweet from CBS Sports
that they ran it seven times against the Chiefs, which
amounted to eleven point seven percent of their plays in
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the game.
Speaker 6 (36:28):
On Sunday, I support it as a as a tool,
you know, but when it's your main go to thing,
like it's becoming, it's just come on.
Speaker 4 (36:36):
Do you think do you think Roger Goodell like now
loves this that people are so turned off by a
play like that they would maybe not want to watch
that team or watch that game. Like, I think that's
ultimately like when you get to the owners and you
talk about fairness and unfair we're actually complaining on behalf
of the Kansas City Chiefs on this, and I thought
that was the biggest That's how you know, like that
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something may not be right if we're like, hey man,
the Chiefs are getting screwed here, like that's what we
were doing over the last twenty four hours or so
because of this play. And yeah, I don't think it's
I think that Sunday kind of showed that this has
maybe gotten out of hand.
Speaker 1 (37:12):
Just a little bit.
Speaker 5 (37:13):
Yeah, I did the murkiness now in terms of where
the line in the sand is in running this play
versus being able to adjudicate it. Look, we've always had
the question of being able to spot the ball in
any fourth and fourth and short yardage situations, but now
this takes it to.
Speaker 3 (37:31):
A whole other level.
Speaker 5 (37:32):
Like where's Jalen Hurts relative to where that pile is
as opposed to where he actually comes out after you
try to spot it.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
So like you're still playing Hurts because of what he
could do rushing the football and those one yard touchdown runs.
But to answer your question about the wide receivers, yeah,
I mean I guess I'm still playing a J.
Speaker 4 (37:51):
Brown because of where I drafted him, but I'm not
playing DeVante Smith.
Speaker 5 (37:55):
Yeah, I think they were just at that point where
it's like Brown is probably no better than mid number
two in the best of weeks, I e the six
teams on a buy and we go from there. But yeah,
it's it's one of those where I know, on the
average draft position, he was still a guy as a
back end WR one And I'm sure you're wringing your
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hands right now if you're an owner there because he's
got He and Smith both have nine targets at this point.
Speaker 4 (38:22):
And just to put a bow on this, if you
can go get Rashid Rice, if somebody's on a team,
just for the simple fact of the Chiefs can't do
anything right now or at least couldn't do anything really
on Sunday, So now at least when Rahi Rice comes back,
it should be a welcome part of their offense that
they're probably gonna try to use.
Speaker 3 (38:42):
A bunch YEP still available in about fifteen to twenty
percent of leagues out there, depending on your service, but
certainly worth a checkout as you traverse the wave.
Speaker 1 (38:52):
Of a wire.
Speaker 4 (38:52):
Yeah, and I'm saying throw out trades too. For times
people are like, yeah, I don't you know, like it's
gonna be another month.
Speaker 5 (38:57):
For if you're zero in two right, maybe he's one
of those guys. Hey, I'm going to be smart and stash. Yeah,
and you drafted an aj Brown, You drafted one of
these guys that struggling.
Speaker 3 (39:07):
You might be able to go and make some Hey.
Speaker 1 (39:09):
Who can make hay for you?
Speaker 4 (39:11):
In week three on the waiver wire, Mike Harmon has
those answers. Plus we'll tell you how we did with
our week two predictions. He's Mike Carmen, I'm Dan Byer,
that's Ian Roddy. That's next here, and I want your
flex all right, report card time? Who did what well
and not so well in week two? From what we
told you in our previous pod. Mike will start with you.
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Who hit for you in week two?
Speaker 5 (39:33):
Well, we'll take the w of h chan Be based
on his efforts as a pass catcher. Yeah, the Dolphins
are a segment and a therapy session for another time.
Speaker 3 (39:43):
Overall, a little bit of Trevor Lawrence.
Speaker 5 (39:46):
As well as as well as etn running with him.
Two guys who were high on off the hot plays,
so we'll run with those. From the Cold Soars Ashton genty.
We talked about him ad nauseam in the first part
of things, So I'll take a victory there. Hollywood Brown
against the Eagles just five for thirty, so solid there.
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And then on the Ninjas we had On Dunza and
Keenan Allen to lead the charge there. A couple of
horrible misses across the board there. JJ McCarthy against Atlanta
and now he's hurt. We look at the Cold Soar
We had a long discussion about Jared Goff saying who
knows him better than Ben Johnson? You and I both
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on that Dan, and it's like, wow, that got ugly
and fast, especially when they decided, hey, let's run it.
Speaker 3 (40:35):
Up and see how great we can take this.
Speaker 4 (40:37):
I think we both thought that the Lions are probably
gonna win that game. It's tough, tough spot anyway for
the Bears. Short we were coming off the loss that
they did, but I just thought it was gonna be
done through the ground with Gibbs and Montgomery.
Speaker 1 (40:48):
Not five touchdowns from Golf's.
Speaker 5 (40:50):
Arm, solid returns from Justin Herbert not overwhelming, but the
sixty yard bomb to Quentin Johnston got us started pretty
well there. Lamar jack and gave us some usual brilliance
along the way. Jamiir Gibbs with a solid performance against
the Bears. McCaffrey found the end zone, a couple of duds,
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and there Derrick Henry. It turns out they really could
control him. Okay, they didn't need him, but eleven for
twenty three not exactly getting it done. Kyron Williams seated
a bunch of carries to Blake gorm as they went
to the sledge hammer. So a guy that we need
to kind of watch down in distance and opposition dependent.
I think a little bit there, we'll maybe see a
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little more of a split wide receiver wise talk about neighbors.
He gets it done, Alman Ross, Saint Brown, Jamar Chase,
didn't matter that Joe Burrow exited early. He still got
it done. And Ceenee Lamb, though he didn't find the
end zone, still gave you a nice twenty point day
in your PPR league.
Speaker 3 (41:47):
So we'll take the w there.
Speaker 1 (41:48):
As for streaming defenses, Ian, you had three of them.
How'd they fare in Week two?
Speaker 6 (41:54):
Yeah, So just like last time, we'll start with the
worst and work our way up.
Speaker 1 (41:57):
So that was first.
Speaker 6 (41:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (42:00):
News, First was the Cowboys.
Speaker 6 (42:01):
They ended with negative four fantasy points, and yeah, I
did not see that coming. With the Giants, I don't
know how many people did, but that was a very,
very high scoring game, so I doubt that either defense
ended up doing well. So that was a miss. Forty
nine Ers defense ended up getting you five fantasy points.
They allowed twenty one points, got a fumble recovery and
a sack, so not bad there. And then the Chargers
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were the last one. That was a great, great day
and that was just the night game tonight and they
got you fourteen fantasy points. Could have really helped you
win your week there they only allowed nine points, got
three picks and three sacks on the day, So huge,
huge day for the Chargers.
Speaker 4 (42:39):
Yeah, they looked really good defensively. The points of Paluzzo
would have been Cowboys Giants. The highest spread, it might
correct me if I'm wrong. I thought it was Bengals
Jaguars heading.
Speaker 3 (42:49):
Into the week was at forty nine.
Speaker 1 (42:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (42:52):
Yeah, so that one is off the board when we
picked Points of Baloza because we tried to look below that.
So Dallas Giants would have been the pick.
Speaker 1 (42:58):
I told you.
Speaker 4 (42:59):
Arizona and Carol didn't rise to the level I thought,
thanks to a late.
Speaker 1 (43:03):
Comeback, it made it better than what it could have been.
Speaker 4 (43:05):
But I doubled down the last episode and I picked
the Panthers or excuse me, the Cardinals as my survivor pick.
Speaker 1 (43:11):
And they did survive.
Speaker 4 (43:13):
They held on and what should have been an easy win,
but they allowed the Panthers to stick around and stick
around and hang around, and a bad turnover by Kyler
Murray then he had an awful penalty call on a
roughing the passer which never should have been called. But
the Panthers hung in there, got it up to forty
nine points total but didn't top our points at Palooza.
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But the Cardinals were the victorious and the survivors. So
we're two for two with the Steelers in Week one
and the Cardinals.
Speaker 1 (43:41):
In Week two. The tricky thing, guys, is last year,
at the start of the season, it was pure chaos
in Survivor League.
Speaker 4 (43:47):
Nobody could get anything right. Now we've had chalk for
the first two weeks, a lot of the favorites ending
up winning these games. In fact, we had in one
contest that I'm in Raven's Cardinal, those Cowboys rams Lions
were the top five picks all end up advancing. The
Steelers were taken by about three and a half percent
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of the pool, and then it was the Bills and
Bengals after that. So you've got your top eight teams
and seven of those eight advancing. So you probably should
be alive in your Survivor pool. And if you've lost entries,
like me, tip of the cap to you, because you're
actually sticking your neck out trying to play I was
on the Dolphins in one of my leagues just as
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an extra entry guy. Handicap I felt was right, And
if h Chan's foot stays in bounds on that touchdown run,
maybe they end up pulling out the victory there. But
it didn't cash in. But predicting chalk so far has
been good for you in the survival pools.
Speaker 3 (44:42):
Yeah, certainly.
Speaker 5 (44:44):
I know in Week one just from a straight betting perspective,
and that sounds odd to say it that way, but
there were I think only two upsets, maybe a third,
but they were all three points or fewer in terms
of the points preadure, so not exactly overwhelming. Oh my god,
look at this crazy ass game. Unlike last year, when
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you know through two weeks the Saints were the best
team in football.
Speaker 1 (45:08):
That's true. Cowboys eliminated a lot.
Speaker 4 (45:11):
A lot of people got eliminated by the Cowboys in
that Week two matchup.
Speaker 1 (45:14):
Oh I remember. Well, all right, let's look ahead to
week three.
Speaker 4 (45:17):
It starts Thursday night with the Bills and Dolphins. I
will be in attendant something well nice too on the
next podcast. Then the weekends with the Dandy with the
Lions and Ravens playing on Monday Night in week three.
But Mike, with those two bookends, who do we get
to look at the waiver wire coming up for week three?
Speaker 5 (45:34):
Yeah, we'll do a deeper dive in the next episode
on quarterbacks overall, but as as we look at the
percentages Jake Browning, based on the fact that he's got
two of the best pass catchers in the game, I'm
also going to go down a little bit deeper and
give you one to stash and let's see how it
plays out for the next couple of weeks. In Yoshavish,
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who became a target and it'd been working with him
on the second unit, so I think you're going to
see a target count there as he gets more and
more comfortable. He's a guy that's been in the system,
so you get a little bit of a helper there.
As you go a little deeper down, you've got about
half of the league's look. Trevor Lawrence is gonna have
his ups and downs, but he's gonna keep winging the
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ball around. So we'll take a look down his way.
And then we mentioned Mac Jones a little bit earlier.
You can take a ride down that highway if you want.
Sam Darnold your guy. He may only have one receiver
right now, Dan, but available in most leagues, and with
all the injuries we've got out there, you've got He
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and Bryce Young are two of the guys that'll be
of the more active. Young had a nice twenty two
point performance in that game against Arizona. As you laid
it out and then check your league, Daniel Jones, people
were reticent after week one. After Week two, I got
to assume that we get too near to one hundred
after this.
Speaker 1 (46:58):
I will say that the Seahawks do walk of the
Saints to town, so that could be a friendlier matchup
for Darnold. Does the Saints get out of the Dome
for the first time this season? And yeah, of all
the matchups Division showdown Colts Tennessee, I'm gonna be a
little intriguing with that Daniel Jones pick up for sure.
Speaker 5 (47:17):
Yeah, no question about it. In Tennessee, they hung around
for a while and then just too much DeVante Adams
and that defense, no question about it. To the running
back position, Rashaan White, we talked about him. If nothing else,
he becomes a stash proposition to see how much they
deploy a two back offense there in Tampa. Going forward,
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another stash Tank Bigsby who got traded to Philadelphia. So
if he does eventually either work a larger workshare or
in the worst scenario of something befalling Saquon Barkley, suddenly
you've got an option Camp Scatabo. Going back to a
guy we talked about a little bit, Quinn Shawn Judkins.
(47:58):
He's going to get his opportun tunity. He's available in
about forty percent of leagues as we move forward. And
then one that's still a little bit surprising, a guy
that we thought might lose a bunch of share early on,
available in one third of leagues.
Speaker 3 (48:13):
Two great weeks in a row. Ramandre Stevenson of your
New England Patriots for another bit of an opportunity of
a guy who right now Henderson's not getting a workload,
and it may be a while before we see that
get overtaken.
Speaker 1 (48:28):
I'll tell you one of the things.
Speaker 4 (48:30):
And I watched a bunch of that game on Sunday,
But Henderson three down back, like you can play him
on and have him work in pass pro. He missed
some spots and if there's anything that's going to take
you off the field. It's missing blocks, especially in that situation,
and Stevenson ran the ball really well in that contest
(48:51):
against Miami, so he deserves to get an opportunity. So
I think that's a pretty good suggestion for the Patriots,
who I don't think they're going to win pretty but
I think they're gonna win some football games. Now, I
got the Steelers coming to town, and I think that's
a winnable football game because I think Pittsburgh showed some
wartz against Seattle this past weekend. All right, Ian, any
(49:11):
final thoughts from you as we wrap this up?
Speaker 6 (49:13):
Now, that'll do it for me, guys.
Speaker 3 (49:14):
Good show.
Speaker 4 (49:15):
All right, So for Mike Carmen, Ian Roddy, and myself
Dan Byer, we will be talking quarterbacks, all the injuries
that were littered throughout JJ McCarthy, Jayden Daniels, Joe Burrow,
and so much more and justin field.
Speaker 1 (49:29):
Sorry, Ian had also included Jet's QB. We'll talk about
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Speaker 4 (00:33):
A double dose in Week two. Things wrap up with
Monday Night football.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
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Speaker 4 (00:40):
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Speaker 1 (00:46):
Let's dive into it, and.
Speaker 4 (00:48):
I guess first things first, when we talk about how
Week two ended Monday night football schedule double header, it's
the only double header we're going to get this year.
There will be nights where we get two games on
Monday night, but a true doubleheader. I know that the
eastern part of the country hates it, and that's out
here on the West Coast love it. But this is
just a one time deal for this season. Mike, you
(01:10):
four or against what we got in week two with
this schedule.
Speaker 5 (01:13):
So long as I'm on air during the games, I'm
good with it. Dan, Right, listen to a little of
the radio broadcast on the drive up to the studios,
get to watch the full second half plus, and then
get ready for a night cap.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Yeah, I'm in.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Let's go.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
I'm game two. I can understand why some people may
not be keen to it, or if someone's watching the
Chargers and Raiders and are saying, listen, I've given up
my Sunday night. I've given up my Thursday night. Now
I got to do this again on Monday night. But
small sacrifice to pay when you're sitting there in mid
May and there's no football to deal with.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
I'm a fan of it as well. I don't like
the staggerd start Ian.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
I don't know if you're a fan of it or not,
but it was I like this setup we miss I'm
driving home, Mike, you're driving into work, so I'm missing
like the first part of the Buccaneers and Texans game
listening to it on the radio. I guess I have
a biased point of view because I'm like, well, I'm
only missing the first part.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
I get to see the end.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
Maybe that's what bothers East Coast people so much, But
I like this one better than the one that starts
at four fifteen and then another game at five point
forty five.
Speaker 6 (02:18):
More football than never a bad thing, And I feel
like one of these games, whichever one, wouldn't have been
on Monday night otherwise had it not been a doubleheader,
it just you know, gets lost in the fold on Sunday.
So it's actually nice to have another game that you're
fully plugged into.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
I'm also fully aware that I just set a time
that the Central and Eastern time zones just like it
blew their mind, you know, to have a game at
like at five, what are you talking about?
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Sure, four fifteen, Like that's what.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
About six fifteen, seven fifteen, seven thirty eight o'clock because
those are the times that it is out there.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
But yeah, I didn't I didn't mind it.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
But I guess in a way too, if I'm sitting
there watching the Chargers, you know, run another clock against
the Raiders, and it's twelve thirty at night and I
got work the next day, maybe it's not the greatest thing,
but I much rather have this than miss action and
try to toggle back and forth between the two games,
like we're gonna get later on in the season.
Speaker 5 (03:14):
Yeah, we got a couple more times over the course
of the season. And it's the one off, as you say,
And like on the West Coast, we miss a lot
of the early parts of games. Like people laugh all
the time West Coast games where there's a late arriving crowd.
It's not just because it's la it's like because you're
sitting in traffic as people are leaving from work who
have no care in the world about the game about
(03:36):
to be played. Right, and East Coast you get it
in your nice primetime window. So you know, oftentimes the
West Coast gets pushed to the side now games that
are later, I get it. You know, you may be
a little groggy at work, you know, But as Kevin
Durant once taught us, you don't like it.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
Don't watch.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
That's absolutely right. I don't know if the Raiders liked
what they.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
Saw, Oh no, no, they did not for it.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
We totally moved to that.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
I do want to say, Week four is the next
time we get a double Monday night, weekend or night
if you will, Jets Dolphins Ian.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
So your Jets seven to fifteen Eastern, four to fifteen Pacific.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
Yeah, and then you got Bengals Broncos now with a
Joe Burrow less Bengals team at eight fifteen Eastern time,
five to fifteen Pacific. So we have Lions Ravens by
themselves next week, and then the week after is another
double dip, but not the true double header anyway, gets you. Yeah,
speaking of the of bad football, tough one for the
(04:34):
Raiders turning it over. But it's the rookie running backs
that are standing out to me, not in a good
way in that game. It's that's the that's my takeaway.
I thought Ashton Genty had to carry in the first
quarter and like all right, here we go, and there
was just no more of that Omarion Hampton a fumble
so far the rookies that we had such high hopes
(04:55):
for getting off to a kind of slow start in
this fantasy season.
Speaker 5 (04:58):
Yeah, I mean we had the botch hand off attempt
between Herbert and Hampton late to try to seal things,
which at least opened the door for a minute until
Gino sailed one on a fourth down play fifteen yards
out of bouts. Like we actually joked on airic Jason Smith,
and I it's like it was he making a business
decision that he didn't want a four in the interception
col almost like what the hell? Just absolutely insane, but
(05:22):
certainly that the concerns echoed, Like we were talking about
it a little before we got together here to start
recording Dan of you know, people pressing the panic button
of putting guys like Hampton or genty up in the
trade market based on early returns like okay for the
Chargers a bunch of stuff in the off season, right,
and then you lose Slater, you bring in Hampton, you
(05:45):
had to shuffle your offensive line. Najie Harris was brought
in to be that guy. He has the eye injury
off of the fourth of July, so you know he
was still at least early on going to be a factor.
So with Hampton, I'd take a little with a grain
of assault.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
And certainly the fumbles not good.
Speaker 5 (06:02):
And if Justin Herbert's the guy I think he is,
he's probably gonna put him on himself for not giving
him that. And let's face it, they didn't do anything
to stop Max Crosby. Like I likened it too. I
just went and saw the fiftieth anniversary of Jaws on
the giant screen. There's that scene where Richard Dreyfuss is
in the shark cage and he's looking around, where did
it go? It's all murky, and then he turns like,
oh damn it, there's the shark that was Max Crosby
(06:24):
ready to hammer him as he turned. If you put
the ball away, his eyes got wide and he put
it on the carpet. For Ascia Jenty, we got a
little bit of a question of how much he really
wants anything if he doesn't have a full head of
steam going three catches or yeah, three catches for one yard,
not nothing after the after contact, after the catch, and
(06:46):
then on passing downs, looks very uncomfortable to where he's
off the field a bunch. And then he had that
one run, cool spin move, great highlight, but that was it.
Otherwise he was contained. Now you take it with a
grain of salt, I guess to the idea of the
Chargers defense, we anticipate that they're going to be good,
but yeah, I'm a big concern because I didn't like
that offensive line coming into the year, and they did
(07:08):
nothing to allay any of those fears today.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
I'll tell you the Texans, we had fears because there
was no Joe Mixon, but Nick Chubb getting a late
run for the Texans, and then it's Rashad White cashing
in when the Buccaneers needed the most. Bucky Irving's great
like he is, but I was just a bit surprised
at how the second fiddle guys like the Chubb, like
(07:33):
the Rashad White had such a role in modern nights game.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (07:36):
Nick Chubb basically did the I'm falling forward, He's like
six to one right, six feet yeah, so like two
yards of carry until that scamper after the big punt
return where that flag mysteriously got picked up. But that's
for another time. We could talk about penalties across the
league from the larger football standpoint, but yeah, Houston has
the early success with the ten points in the first quarter,
(07:59):
and then the off goes dormant for the most part
for the Tampa side. I wonder if for Sean White
didn't get a little bit of a that a boy
for picking up that Baker Mayfield fumble where he hits
it with his off hand and you play a little
bit of sledgehammer late. Yeah, good to see him hang
out of the ball ten for sixty five in a
touchdown look Bucky Irving. Fantasy owners got their love because
(08:21):
they did a brilliant checkdown. Check down. We talked about it,
Baker Mayfield brilliant in terms of not pushing it right.
If you're gonna give me the underneath with Bucky Irving
and then these guys are going to do a half
ass arm tackle like the guy's too strong for what
they were trying to do, and putting the linebackers one
on one in coverage gave him great opportunity. I'll take
(08:41):
a guy with twenty three touches for one hundred and
twenty one yards. Yeah, I didn't find the end zone,
but you know they if he's going to be that
active in the pass game, then you certainly have something there.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
I thought it was interesting just White's number of carries
because they even showed the graphic on the broadcast of
just the increase in runs that the Buccaneers had from
twenty twenty three to twenty twenty four when they were
the team, you know, a bottom part of the NFL
in rushing attempts, and two years ago then they were
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up the fourth last year, if this is the type
of football that you want to play, and I know
that Chris Godwin's making his way back, I don't know
on what sort of role Chris Godwin's going to have
to really if that would really change how Tampa would
play anyway, But I just was starting to wonder, like
for a team that probably does have bigger aspirations than
(09:35):
maybe just coming out on top of the NFC South,
that this two running back committee could be a role
with Tampa. And I don't think it's going to come
into Bucky Irving's numbers, but I just feel that maybe
if Rashad White plays this sort of way, that he
could find a role in fantasy lineups, because I thought
he was a big factor on Monday Night, and I
(09:56):
felt like, if now, if you're Tampa and you're looking at.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
How you want to have your run game, that could
be a viable option down the line.
Speaker 5 (10:02):
Yeah, certainly he'll be one of the waiver wire guys
that people will be adding off of a big workload.
How much of it is a scheme against this particular defense.
Right when we talk about the pass rushers, we talk
about how good their secondary is, So maybe the idea
is a sledgehammer approach. Thirty carries overall one hundred and
sixty nine yards. Now thirty three of that is the
(10:24):
Baker Mayfield scrambles. But twice he came up where I
thought maybe he'd ripped his knees. So I was getting
a little nervous right as he had one where he
caught in the cleaton. The other did the somersault, and
then he met ran into his old buddy Chauncey as
he called him in the postgame. Good old CJ. Gardner
Johnson getting after it. Always good for a good trash
(10:45):
talking session. But maybe maybe a little bit of a
different yo yo string after Baker Mayfield got his last
two coordinators head coaching jobs, that maybe you go right
to balance a bit.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
CJ.
Speaker 4 (10:59):
Strob didn't get Bobby Slowick fired, but it sure didn't
help with the season that he had last year.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
And we didn't put it all on CJ.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
Stroud's shoulders, like you talked about the Texans offensive line
or lackdaro of last year, and it was a big
concern coming into this year. But now if you have
shares a Nico Collins and you see a game like tonight,
great catch that he makes to get the touchdown, But
my goodness, if he doesn't have the touchdown, what an
awful start.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
To the season that you've got in Houston.
Speaker 4 (11:31):
I'm not panicking yet, but I'm starting to get a
little bit worried for a team that we didn't have
extreme high expectations for. Rams are a good defense. I
think the Buccaneers are a good defense. You've got Jacksonville
next week. If it doesn't happen in week three for
the Texans, I'm then I'm hitting the panic.
Speaker 5 (11:53):
Yeah, I think you sound the alarms, right. You just
go through that receiving core. What else do you got?
I mean, Dalton Schultz is solid, but what's he a
high two? From a fantasy and weekly production kind of standpoint,
you don't have a discernible number two right now. In
terms of your pass catchers. You're looking at Hutchinson and
(12:14):
Higgins wishing and hoping and neither of their you know,
plays were just out of the Hey sequence and fire
them up. The past to Higgins was improvisational by Stroud
of Hey, turn back to me.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
I've got it.
Speaker 5 (12:30):
Maybe a shot down field, but you popped open so here. Yeah,
without a number two. I mean, you're gonna have bracket
coverage and problems. I mean, and again, if Chubb's not
gonna be able to and Woody marks for what he's used,
You're not going to be able to establish the run game.
You're you're not gonna be able to suck up the
linebackers creating space for.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
For Stroud to operate.
Speaker 5 (12:53):
So yeah, I'm already probably what defcon won's the worst.
I'm probably at least inching towards two already.
Speaker 4 (13:02):
Well, you know, in last year when Stefan Diggs was
there as a free agent, it was like he and
Diggs works. I remember I shares in tank Dell, and
Dell was not the guy anymore because Diggs was and
Nico Collins was still getting his Like you're like, wow,
look out for Houston. Now they used to second round
pick on Jayden Higgins. He gets one target for one
(13:25):
you know catch CJ. Stroud's throwing more to Dalton Schultz
than anybody not named Nico Collins.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
So there's, yeah, there's there's concern.
Speaker 4 (13:35):
Even if this Buccaneers defense is maybe better and I
get a Tampa the ball for like thirty eight minutes.
Sure on Monday night, So there's there's only so much
you can do. But when they did have the football,
it wasn't wasn't that impressive. And now when you're sitting there,
taking Nico Collins maybe back in first round, early second
round in a PPR league, Yeah, this is not the
(13:55):
start you wanted to start the year.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
Yeah, I have some shares at old Nico there.
Speaker 6 (13:59):
Yeah, Well, would you guys consider trading Nico right now?
Because he just came off this game where he did
get that you know, crucial touchdown, like you said, Dan,
no guarantee he gets it every week. Now might be
the time to sell high, right.
Speaker 5 (14:13):
I don't know how high it is though, Yeah, Like
that's the only question is you know what would be
commensurate value if you put him in the marketplace, Like
we were talking about with the running backs right after
two weeks. Well, nervous maybe about both guys, But like
with Collins, if nothing else, we know he's going to
(14:33):
get a bunch of targets. Whether that translates to big games.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (14:39):
Because he got targeted a couple times in the end
zone there's no space so because there's just way too
much coverage.
Speaker 6 (14:46):
So with a player like that. There isn't really a
full on panic mode unless we're like, you know, mid
season and he still looks relatively average.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
I'll tell you what it is.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
Ian, And I know you're younger, but it's like you're
locked into a low interest rate on a house and
interest rates are just way too high. Sure, so you're like,
I can't do anything right now because I'm not gonna
be able to get what I actually want for you know,
something else, or so if you trade Nico Collins right now,
(15:19):
no one's going to give you anything for it.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
I see what you're saying.
Speaker 6 (15:22):
I see what you're saying. The fact that he had
a touchdown tonight makes it more because he did have
what fifteen Fantasy points, fourteen points something. It's not like
he just had done of a game. It's like next week,
Yeah you got your fourteen plus. Yeah I no, So,
I mean, you got your points, and I get it
to your point. But what are you trading him out for?
Speaker 3 (15:42):
Yeah? And like that that.
Speaker 5 (15:43):
You're getting back, right, because what are you gonna get
a number two running back somewhere?
Speaker 3 (15:47):
You're not getting a Bell cow right.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
That touchdown is, by the way, is just cologne. Over
bo because it's three catches for fifty two yards the
touchdown save the day. Right, he doesn't have that touchdown,
you're looking at a two catch performance.
Speaker 5 (16:04):
Yeah, I mean the beauty of it is you were
able to pocket that one early, right, So now you're
just hoping for a massive day. But I look at it,
nine targets. Who the hell else is he throwing the
ball to?
Speaker 3 (16:17):
Right?
Speaker 5 (16:17):
And that means you may have some feast or famine games.
But I don't think that's unlike some of the other
guys where we've been talking about that we have the
expectations for now. Maybe with the Giants, things change. If
Russ is going to be winging the ball around, you're
also not going to play a Beleague or Dallas Secondary
every week. Our guy Brian Thomas, he's struggling now, he's hurt.
(16:42):
But in Jacksonville, like that was what we said last year, right,
It's like, all right, he got his numbers with nobody
around him, because who the hell else are they gonna
throw it to.
Speaker 6 (16:51):
Well, he's an example of someone who you're kind of
screwed now, is because he doesn't have a game that
you can point to and be like, look, still like
this is in his range of out with Nico.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
There is that, but you are saying.
Speaker 5 (17:03):
But I mean for both, you can sell on what
they've done in the past. Sure, and hope people aren't
paying attention to the receiving course around you.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Yeah, here's and here's the thing. And this is this
is why.
Speaker 4 (17:14):
I love Ian on this podcast because he says was
what he feels. Even if Mike.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
Disagrees or I disagree, I would just say to Ian,
what's the difference between Brian Thomas is four for forty
nine that Nico Collins is three for fifty two. Well,
it's the touchdown. It's the one touchdown right which the
Texans have scored won this season, And so like, that's
my that's my like worry some portion of it of.
Speaker 4 (17:40):
They didn't score a touchdown against the Rams. They now
are pretty much styied and couldn't control the ball against
the Buccaneers.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
To Mike's point, there's no running game that teams are
going to be able to.
Speaker 4 (17:52):
Focus on, or are running game that the Texas could
even have to hold onto the ball.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
For thirty minutes in a game. So that's where I'm
starting to just worry about the Texans, and I think
the Buccaneers are good. But two games in against two.
Speaker 4 (18:04):
Solid opponents, I just we're not hitting a panic button yet.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
We're just a little worried.
Speaker 4 (18:10):
If things are like this next week against Jacksonville, then
I think that we've got concern.
Speaker 5 (18:14):
But I do love the question right at week two,
because let's face it, it's also very different league to
league in terms of what you think you can actually
get done in the trade market.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
Right.
Speaker 5 (18:26):
Generally, I've been in leagues where it's a lot of
folks who make one hundred percent of their living doing
nothing but fantasy talk. So the last thing they're going
to do is make a trade that potentially makes them
look foolish. Sure, or they just give you a barrage
of offers just so you'll say yes, so you'll say.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
Lead me the blank alone, yes.
Speaker 5 (18:48):
And so that's generally how it goes. So there's not
usually a lot of trading. Usually it's the draft, it's
waiver wire plays, and that's really most of the leagues
I've participated in. But for those that do have a
more active league and folks are willing to take a shot, Yeah,
it's always that curious spot of where have you seen
enough in the continuum of an NFL season, right, because
(19:12):
we don't get a massive run up. We got seventeen games, right,
six seventeen well, eighteen weeks, seventeen games, and you've got
to try to decide where your line is the saying
have you seen enough? And based on the way the
schedule makers do things to your point, Dan, I mean,
look at what some of these schedules have been right
(19:32):
off the jump, right, the Chiefs, everybody's panicking, Well, you
played two really good defensive squads. I'm not saying they're good,
and Patrick Mahomes certainly left a lot of points on
the board, not being able to connect downfield errant deep balls,
Travis Kelce whatever the hell he's doing in the red
zone back to back weeks and so on. But like
(19:53):
the schedule makers in playing some of these games, like
you're looking at the well, they've got the two of
the games right off the jump, I mean, look at
look at the Chargers, right, so they play the Raiders today,
they go right back to Denver. Well, Denver after two weeks,
are any anywhere near the team defensively that you thought
they were going to be coming in?
Speaker 3 (20:13):
Well?
Speaker 5 (20:13):
Yeah, I mean, that's that's all the questions that we have.
You know, is that enough of a sample.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Size can Justin Herbert be Danny Dimes or as I
saw on Sunday, Indiana.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
Jones actually done.
Speaker 4 (20:25):
I saw that that was starting in a game gain
some traction as well. All Right, we got to take
a time out. The I Want Your Flex podcast is here.
It Mike I bat Swollen Dome. You can find me
at Dan Byer on Fox and get Ian at Ian
Roddy Underscore. We're gonna stand take a hit on what
stood out from us from the other games in Week
two from the full.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Slate of Sunday.
Speaker 4 (20:46):
Plus at the end of the show, Mike's got some
waiver wire pickups that you're gonna need to and trust me,
this week you're gonna need to, especially at the quarterback
position that's next here.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
And I Want your Flex, as we always talk about
here out I Want your Flex.
Speaker 4 (21:01):
We love to break down on how the schedules sort out,
and Mike during my Red Zone show that I have
on Sunday with Carrie, we had one more game in
our late window than Monday Night had, So Monday Night
of two games, we had three on Sunday Chiefs Eagles
was a standout, but we touched on Broncos Colts just
kind of there at the end and having some fun
(21:22):
with Daniel Jones and what the Colts are doing.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
But man, they are doing it.
Speaker 4 (21:27):
And right now we just got off talking about Houston,
or just got done talking about Houston.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
They're zero and two to start the season. We thought
they were going.
Speaker 4 (21:34):
To be maybe the team to beat in the AFC South,
and here the Colts are two and zero putting up
crazy fantasy numbers.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
Jonathan Taylor is running wild.
Speaker 4 (21:42):
That's what stood out to me against to your point,
at Denver defense that we expected a lot more of,
and Indy was able to get it done in controversial fashion.
But even if they don't get that late penalty and
kick the field goal, We're still looking at Daniel Jones
and Jonathan Taylor as success stories.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
In fantasy, no question about it.
Speaker 5 (21:58):
And you know in Chicago they would love a tight
end that would have been drafted this year that actually
contributes to the box score. But I'll save by Ryan
Holds Skewering for another time. No look coming into the
year on our board out in the producer's studio, I
thought the Colts would win the AFC South. I'm all
in on Danny Danny Dimes, Indiana Jones, whatever we're going
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to call him this week, a nickname not yet found
to be able to lead things going back to his
time with the Giants, sixty eight percent completion rate, three
touchdowns per pick. Now, injury issues and fumbling issues certainly
were there. But while you don't have a true number
one wide receiver, as long as Jonathan Taylor's healthy, I
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think I can get some balance in my offense. What
they've done through two weeks is really outstanding, no question
about it.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
And you know.
Speaker 5 (22:52):
The sustainability of twenty five or more points per game
certainly a question.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
But I like what I've seen those far. I mean Stike,
and we've been waiting to see the genius actually be
genius Dan and it's finally starting to pay off a
little bit.
Speaker 4 (23:09):
Yeah, they go to Tennessee in week three for a
divisional showdown, first road test for the Colts, and why
the pass catchers may not have been putting up the
big numbers that you would hope with like a Michael
Pittman Jr.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
To your point about Tyler Warren.
Speaker 4 (23:23):
I mean, the only bad thing that really happened to
the Colts on Sunday was that they ran him in
a fourth and short situation instead of giving the ball
to Jonathan Taylor or having Daniel Jones taken himself.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
But he's been active.
Speaker 4 (23:37):
Seven targets, four catches for seventy nine yards, their leading
receiver in that contest.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
So it's been all good with the horseshoe. That's what
stood out for me in Week two? What stood up
for you? What game? What matchup? What players?
Speaker 5 (23:48):
Mike Well, I think as we look around the board, right,
you're trying to find the diamond in the rough and
the quarterback position certainly one. We're talking about a lot
with the injuries that came out of it, but we
already had to look at San Francisco with Alabama Max
he we're just gonna give everybody nicknames. Now with Mac
Jones taken over for what is already a beleaguered forty
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nine er squad, Now you end up getting a five
for eighty nine on a score from Juwan Jennings. If
you had the guts to play him, you got rewarded.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
We saw Christian.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Mccaffrez, Yeah right, I mean too.
Speaker 5 (24:21):
Yeah, right, So there were questions of his availability. Certainly
Kittle being gone for me had I had questions. Not
only would they'd be able to do passing, but he's
so instrumental of what they want to do running the football,
So how much would that bog it down?
Speaker 1 (24:36):
Now?
Speaker 3 (24:36):
I know it's the Saints, but they were pretty plucky.
Spencer Rattler did not go away.
Speaker 5 (24:42):
I learned a lot about and they had a great
respect for him because he just kept coming right. They
could have folded up at any point, but they they
played them pretty evenly over the course of this game.
As Shaheed one of our favorites, Juwan Johnson, whatever. But
for the forty nine ers, Mac Jones two sevent nine
and three, Christian McCaffrey with another nineteen touch game, goes
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over one hundred yards, has the receiving touchdown, and I
felt and breathed a little easier at least for the
moment of mac Jones being the guy to guide this
because certainly, if you were a Christian McCaffrey owner, with
all of the wounded warriors around you, you're going, oh boy,
here we go. And at least for a week you
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staved that off is it long term successful? I don't know,
but we've seen Shanahan have success which led us to
the brock Olypse.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
Anyway, yeah, per right.
Speaker 4 (25:36):
I hited the level with Ricky Piersall, but because of
Perty's injury, I decided to not play him. In the end,
it didn't matter with my game, but Pearsal did get
six targets at four catches for fifty six yards. I
think you're going to be playing that game of do
I play Piersall, is it Jettings or is it Pearsall
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that gets the numbers? And depending how long how long
Purty is out, which we expect two to four week
injury or so, so it could be this Arizona game
as well. And then they've got a unique situation with
their a short week with the Rams at week five,
so the week four game you don't want to play him,
and then you're not likely going to play.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
In week five. This could be a four game injury.
Speaker 4 (26:18):
I just don't know if over the next month I'm
I feel good about playing a guy like Ricky Piersall
right now, just because I don't know if it's going
to be him or Jennings in this match.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
If it was.
Speaker 4 (26:29):
Party I would feel a little bit better, but with
Mac I'm still not completely sold.
Speaker 5 (26:34):
No, I mean certainly the history would say, all right,
I want to wait and see. Right, It's like we're
talking about jumping ship on guys who are are we
have proof of concept success in the past. For Mac Jones,
it's a long time since that early success before they
started mucking around with offensive coordinators and everything else there
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in New England and the chaos. I would be miss
and like to do one more matchup before we grab
you in because we'll grab a lot of the quarterbacks.
I think off of the injury stuff as we as
we continue. But from a straight matchup perspective, that Dallas
Giants game was insane, like on myriad levels. When we
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talk about Javonte Williams ninety seven yards in a score
right being that guy again, ced Goos for nine one twelve,
Prescott three sixty one in two like the last five
minutes of that might have been some of the most
entertaining football I've seen in quite some time.
Speaker 6 (27:34):
You gotta think dable Brian Dabele must I don't even
know if this has crossed his mind or not, but
with how good Daniel Jones has looked through two weeks
in Indy. That was really really important for Dable to
coach a game like that where his quarterback threw for
you know, four hundred plus yards, because otherwise, if the
Giants still look like one of the worst teams in
the league continuously and Daniel Jones, the guy they had,
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you know, keeps looking like potentially one of the best
quarterbacks in the league.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
I mean that that's.
Speaker 6 (28:01):
An issue for Dable. Yeah, it's It's.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
A really good point.
Speaker 4 (28:05):
And I actually just think that the ship is even
sailed to that point, Like even if if rushed through
for eight hundred yards, like I don't think that he
would still make up for that.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
But I think that you're spot on.
Speaker 4 (28:16):
And and now this is the this is the the
guy that you invested in allowed or forced you to
not resign Saquon Barkley, so then he won a Super Bowl.
And then because you invested in him and couldn't make
it work, that other guy leaves and then he comes
becomes the starter. Like it's just just gets your bad
to worse for Dable and Joe Shane. I mean, it's awful.
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And I'll say this about the Giants here, I'm all
about Tyrone Tracy as a sleeper and Scataboo ends up
taking you know, playing a big role. I think players
feet off of him as well. I'm curious to see
how that plays out. Now, you got the Chiefs on
Sunday night, so we'll get the main look on it.
But Malik Neighbors and want Dale Rob's ensure seem to
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have some value right now.
Speaker 5 (29:01):
Well, we got to see the moon ball come back
into full effect and again that you hang an asterisk
on it, because we knew coming into the game the secondary,
with Bland being out and with Digs still on a
pitch count, that you were probably going to be able
to make some hay and go win some of those
one on one battles. Now Wandale Robinson having his eight
of ten for one hundred and forty two in a
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score probably not what we had on the chart by
but it also becomes a all right, there's one of
the guys on the wire, right, He's been one of
the darlings in years past. You and I talking Dan
and just trying to figure out where where you fit
and where you can get a w R two or
three kind of scenario where a guy plays out now again,
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it's not going to get this wild and wooly and whatever.
Congratulations to those Brandon Aubrey owners out there, you got
your your massive payoff. But for scat about coming in
and really giving them that juice as a runner and
then with a couple of catches as well, the tyrone
Tracy love that I had a year ago. Again, owing
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back to the Saquon Barkley thing, it's all it's more
optics than reality, because how many games were you gonna
win if you'd kept him around? And I'll pay the
quarterback ninety nine and a half times out of one hundred.
Just where I can't have it is I have a
phone call to the guy begging him to call us
back before he signs, and then having him go in
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division to a much better team. Yeah, so the optics
of it are terrible. I still think I would have
played it out the same way. But where you're at
now is all right. Russ's place holding. I was curious
watching the game develop where Jackson Dart kept checking back in.
I'm not quite sure what we were trying to see there,
but you know, Russ has his moonballs and unfortunately threw
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the one that ended up costing.
Speaker 4 (30:54):
I also think, unfortunately, that there are going to be
people who pick up quarterbacks because of the injuries this
week that are going to be disappointed.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
If you pick up Russell Wilson. You got Chiefs Chargers
the next two games, yep.
Speaker 4 (31:09):
And then you get the Saints, so maybe in early
October that's a possibility. Then you have Eagles Broncos, so
that would be and wait, Eagles Broncos, Eagles the Eagles.
Speaker 5 (31:21):
That's a great that's a great schedule for you, right there.
Great schedule makers, God, I love you.
Speaker 4 (31:27):
One of which on a short week, but so but still, yeah,
it's completely awful.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
But that's so like I.
Speaker 4 (31:34):
Don't know of the extreme value Russell Willson is not
going to be throwing for four hundred and fifty yards
in those games, so I kind of feel like the
moment with him has passed as well, but kind of
like along the Wandale Robinson stuff.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
But it's it was great to see.
Speaker 4 (31:52):
It was an exciting game, Mike, to your point, and
it provided a lot of a lot of ups and
downs and George Pickens got into the end zone for Dallas.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
That was a good one. On Yeah, good one on something.
Speaker 3 (32:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (32:02):
So I mean, look, we get seventy seven points of offense.
I mean because in week one, I think we had
what three of these sixteen games actually hit the over
in the over undertotal, So to get one that exciting
and more fantasy viability. But to your point with the
giant schedule, Dan, if you go chasing, you know, don't
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go chasing waterfalls. Like Michael Keaton taught us in the Other.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
Guys Ian, what what game stood out to you in
week two?
Speaker 6 (32:30):
I mean your Seahawks, Dan, the Jackson Smith and I
mean it's more of a player specific player, but Jackson
Smith and Jig. But through two weeks, Sam Donald's targeted
him twenty three times. It's it's just insane. It's like
go back to Justin Jefferson last year. Sam Donald clearly
knows how to pick his favorite guy. Yeah, hone in
on him and you know it's it's good for fantasy JSN.
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I have him in a few places.
Speaker 4 (32:52):
It's unfortunately a second favorite guy is someone in the
other uniform.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
Yeah twice, No, this.
Speaker 4 (32:58):
Is this is Sam Darnald is going all the way
back to college days. Yeah, and even at USC do
he would throw interceptions. It's kind of like you got
to take it. But he did make some big throws,
including that throw to JSN that kind of sealed the
deal for them and allowed them to get the touchdown. Completely,
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trust him completely. Cooper Cup had nine targets, seven catches
for ninety yards in that game.
Speaker 6 (33:24):
Yeah, you got him a little more involved.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
Yeah yeah.
Speaker 4 (33:27):
And so like it's he has his favorites and that's
who he's going to go to. And another knock on
Darnold is that he may not make it through the
route tree completely because he just wants to throw it
to his guys so much. And I think that you
can you can see more of that on the flip side.
You look at DK metcalf and you say six targets
and three catches twenty yards and that that touchdown. It's
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it's it's just not there. It's not there anymore. Like I,
I just I don't believe that whatever it is with
DK as a as a player, He's got everything, size, speed,
the whole deal.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
You can win jump balls, you can fly past you.
Speaker 4 (34:08):
It's just not translating into fourteen targets, eleven catches in
one hundred and fifty yards and that's what's so frustrating.
And if you're going to be hoping for that, it's
not going to come in Pittsburgh, and it's not going
to come in the form of DK Metcalf.
Speaker 5 (34:21):
Let me ask one question, going back to our original conversation,
right we did in the first segment talking about wide receivers,
the cells, sell sheet and whatever. What do you do
with the two guys in Philadelphia.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
Well, I've never been high on AJ Brown.
Speaker 4 (34:39):
He's I acquired him in a trade two years ago
and he's stunked on the stretch and he's one of
those guys where you're like, I just swear off of.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
And I've never liked the the antics.
Speaker 4 (34:51):
Even didn't buy the book stuff, you know, on the sidelines,
Not like I'm buying the book, but you know, I
didn't buy his story of that.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
He's deep into it.
Speaker 4 (35:01):
The whole point is, Mike, I would not buy To
answer your question, I'm not buying a J. Brown, not
buying DeVante Smith, And I guess that means I'm also
really not buying Jalen Hurts.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
In the passing game right now.
Speaker 5 (35:14):
They just seem to want to run the ball, right,
But that's the thing right, No, Dallas Goddard this week,
what was it, one hundred and one yards?
Speaker 3 (35:22):
Is where you got to in the past game.
Speaker 6 (35:24):
It's just like the way that they have been going
to the Toush push. It's starting to really annoy me,
you know. And I already admittedly with someone who kind
of just wants the Toush push gone, I'm like that.
Speaker 5 (35:34):
But I think there was a report that they were
starting to anybody pushing out the video about the false start,
and yeah, they're trying to that. They were pulling it
off of a scrubbing it from the internet. Yeah, it's
it's crazy. They just don't want people to see or
talk about it because all the false starts. But yeah,
it just seems like there's you know, uh, handed to
Saquon on first, okay, four yard gain, you know, handed
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to Saquon again, two yard gain, Toush push, don't get it,
okay toach Bush again. It's just like, can we play football, please?
I get it if you're on the goal line, but
this is getting ridiculous.
Speaker 4 (36:06):
I didn't I didn't hear the broadcast, but someone said
Brady said that the egos basically at first to nine,
because if you get anywhere close to it, and you
know they'll just do the They'll do that, they'll do
the play. I saw Mike Renner tweet from CBS Sports
that they ran it seven times against the Chiefs, which
amounted to eleven point seven percent of their plays in
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the game.
Speaker 6 (36:28):
On Sunday, I support it as a as a tool,
you know, but when it's your main go to thing,
like it's becoming, it's just come on.
Speaker 4 (36:36):
Do you think do you think Roger Goodell like now
loves this that people are so turned off by a
play like that they would maybe not want to watch
that team or watch that game. Like, I think that's
ultimately like when you get to the owners and you
talk about fairness and unfair we're actually complaining on behalf
of the Kansas City Chiefs on this, and I thought
that was the biggest That's how you know, like that
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something may not be right if we're like, hey man,
the Chiefs are getting screwed here, like that's what we
were doing over the last twenty four hours or so
because of this play. And yeah, I don't think it's
I think that Sunday kind of showed that this has
maybe gotten out of hand.
Speaker 1 (37:12):
Just a little bit.
Speaker 5 (37:13):
Yeah, I did the murkiness now in terms of where
the line in the sand is in running this play
versus being able to adjudicate it. Look, we've always had
the question of being able to spot the ball in
any fourth and fourth and short yardage situations, but now
this takes it to.
Speaker 3 (37:31):
A whole other level.
Speaker 5 (37:32):
Like where's Jalen Hurts relative to where that pile is
as opposed to where he actually comes out after you
try to spot it.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
So like you're still playing Hurts because of what he
could do rushing the football and those one yard touchdown runs.
But to answer your question about the wide receivers, yeah,
I mean I guess I'm still playing a J.
Speaker 4 (37:51):
Brown because of where I drafted him, but I'm not
playing DeVante Smith.
Speaker 5 (37:55):
Yeah, I think they were just at that point where
it's like Brown is probably no better than mid number
two in the best of weeks, I e the six
teams on a buy and we go from there. But yeah,
it's it's one of those where I know, on the
average draft position, he was still a guy as a
back end WR one And I'm sure you're wringing your
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hands right now if you're an owner there because he's
got He and Smith both have nine targets at this point.
Speaker 4 (38:22):
And just to put a bow on this, if you
can go get Rashid Rice, if somebody's on a team,
just for the simple fact of the Chiefs can't do
anything right now or at least couldn't do anything really
on Sunday, So now at least when Rahi Rice comes back,
it should be a welcome part of their offense that
they're probably gonna try to use.
Speaker 3 (38:42):
A bunch YEP still available in about fifteen to twenty
percent of leagues out there, depending on your service, but
certainly worth a checkout as you traverse the wave.
Speaker 1 (38:52):
Of a wire.
Speaker 4 (38:52):
Yeah, and I'm saying throw out trades too. For times
people are like, yeah, I don't you know, like it's
gonna be another month.
Speaker 5 (38:57):
For if you're zero in two right, maybe he's one
of those guys. Hey, I'm going to be smart and stash. Yeah,
and you drafted an aj Brown, You drafted one of
these guys that struggling.
Speaker 3 (39:07):
You might be able to go and make some Hey.
Speaker 1 (39:09):
Who can make hay for you?
Speaker 4 (39:11):
In week three on the waiver wire, Mike Harmon has
those answers. Plus we'll tell you how we did with
our week two predictions. He's Mike Carmen, I'm Dan Byer,
that's Ian Roddy. That's next here, and I want your
flex all right, report card time? Who did what well
and not so well in week two? From what we
told you in our previous pod. Mike will start with you.
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Who hit for you in week two?
Speaker 5 (39:33):
Well, we'll take the w of h chan Be based
on his efforts as a pass catcher. Yeah, the Dolphins
are a segment and a therapy session for another time.
Speaker 3 (39:43):
Overall, a little bit of Trevor Lawrence.
Speaker 5 (39:46):
As well as as well as etn running with him.
Two guys who were high on off the hot plays,
so we'll run with those. From the Cold Soars Ashton genty.
We talked about him ad nauseam in the first part
of things, So I'll take a victory there. Hollywood Brown
against the Eagles just five for thirty, so solid there.
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And then on the Ninjas we had On Dunza and
Keenan Allen to lead the charge there. A couple of
horrible misses across the board there. JJ McCarthy against Atlanta
and now he's hurt. We look at the Cold Soar
We had a long discussion about Jared Goff saying who
knows him better than Ben Johnson? You and I both
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on that Dan, and it's like, wow, that got ugly
and fast, especially when they decided, hey, let's run it.
Speaker 3 (40:35):
Up and see how great we can take this.
Speaker 4 (40:37):
I think we both thought that the Lions are probably
gonna win that game. It's tough, tough spot anyway for
the Bears. Short we were coming off the loss that
they did, but I just thought it was gonna be
done through the ground with Gibbs and Montgomery.
Speaker 1 (40:48):
Not five touchdowns from Golf's.
Speaker 5 (40:50):
Arm, solid returns from Justin Herbert not overwhelming, but the
sixty yard bomb to Quentin Johnston got us started pretty
well there. Lamar jack and gave us some usual brilliance
along the way. Jamiir Gibbs with a solid performance against
the Bears. McCaffrey found the end zone, a couple of duds,
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and there Derrick Henry. It turns out they really could
control him. Okay, they didn't need him, but eleven for
twenty three not exactly getting it done. Kyron Williams seated
a bunch of carries to Blake gorm as they went
to the sledge hammer. So a guy that we need
to kind of watch down in distance and opposition dependent.
I think a little bit there, we'll maybe see a
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little more of a split wide receiver wise talk about neighbors.
He gets it done, Alman Ross, Saint Brown, Jamar Chase,
didn't matter that Joe Burrow exited early. He still got
it done. And Ceenee Lamb, though he didn't find the
end zone, still gave you a nice twenty point day
in your PPR league.
Speaker 3 (41:47):
So we'll take the w there.
Speaker 1 (41:48):
As for streaming defenses, Ian, you had three of them.
How'd they fare in Week two?
Speaker 6 (41:54):
Yeah, So just like last time, we'll start with the
worst and work our way up.
Speaker 1 (41:57):
So that was first.
Speaker 6 (41:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (42:00):
News, First was the Cowboys.
Speaker 6 (42:01):
They ended with negative four fantasy points, and yeah, I
did not see that coming. With the Giants, I don't
know how many people did, but that was a very,
very high scoring game, so I doubt that either defense
ended up doing well. So that was a miss. Forty
nine Ers defense ended up getting you five fantasy points.
They allowed twenty one points, got a fumble recovery and
a sack, so not bad there. And then the Chargers
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were the last one. That was a great, great day
and that was just the night game tonight and they
got you fourteen fantasy points. Could have really helped you
win your week there they only allowed nine points, got
three picks and three sacks on the day, So huge,
huge day for the Chargers.
Speaker 4 (42:39):
Yeah, they looked really good defensively. The points of Paluzzo
would have been Cowboys Giants. The highest spread, it might
correct me if I'm wrong. I thought it was Bengals
Jaguars heading.
Speaker 3 (42:49):
Into the week was at forty nine.
Speaker 1 (42:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (42:52):
Yeah, so that one is off the board when we
picked Points of Baloza because we tried to look below that.
So Dallas Giants would have been the pick.
Speaker 1 (42:58):
I told you.
Speaker 4 (42:59):
Arizona and Carol didn't rise to the level I thought,
thanks to a late.
Speaker 1 (43:03):
Comeback, it made it better than what it could have been.
Speaker 4 (43:05):
But I doubled down the last episode and I picked
the Panthers or excuse me, the Cardinals as my survivor pick.
Speaker 1 (43:11):
And they did survive.
Speaker 4 (43:13):
They held on and what should have been an easy win,
but they allowed the Panthers to stick around and stick
around and hang around, and a bad turnover by Kyler
Murray then he had an awful penalty call on a
roughing the passer which never should have been called. But
the Panthers hung in there, got it up to forty
nine points total but didn't top our points at Palooza.
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But the Cardinals were the victorious and the survivors. So
we're two for two with the Steelers in Week one
and the Cardinals.
Speaker 1 (43:41):
In Week two. The tricky thing, guys, is last year,
at the start of the season, it was pure chaos
in Survivor League.
Speaker 4 (43:47):
Nobody could get anything right. Now we've had chalk for
the first two weeks, a lot of the favorites ending
up winning these games. In fact, we had in one
contest that I'm in Raven's Cardinal, those Cowboys rams Lions
were the top five picks all end up advancing. The
Steelers were taken by about three and a half percent
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of the pool, and then it was the Bills and
Bengals after that. So you've got your top eight teams
and seven of those eight advancing. So you probably should
be alive in your Survivor pool. And if you've lost entries,
like me, tip of the cap to you, because you're
actually sticking your neck out trying to play I was
on the Dolphins in one of my leagues just as
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an extra entry guy. Handicap I felt was right, And
if h Chan's foot stays in bounds on that touchdown run,
maybe they end up pulling out the victory there. But
it didn't cash in. But predicting chalk so far has
been good for you in the survival pools.
Speaker 3 (44:42):
Yeah, certainly.
Speaker 5 (44:44):
I know in Week one just from a straight betting perspective,
and that sounds odd to say it that way, but
there were I think only two upsets, maybe a third,
but they were all three points or fewer in terms
of the points preadure, so not exactly overwhelming. Oh my god,
look at this crazy ass game. Unlike last year, when
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you know through two weeks the Saints were the best
team in football.
Speaker 1 (45:08):
That's true. Cowboys eliminated a lot.
Speaker 4 (45:11):
A lot of people got eliminated by the Cowboys in
that Week two matchup.
Speaker 1 (45:14):
Oh I remember. Well, all right, let's look ahead to
week three.
Speaker 4 (45:17):
It starts Thursday night with the Bills and Dolphins. I
will be in attendant something well nice too on the
next podcast. Then the weekends with the Dandy with the
Lions and Ravens playing on Monday Night in week three.
But Mike, with those two bookends, who do we get
to look at the waiver wire coming up for week three?
Speaker 5 (45:34):
Yeah, we'll do a deeper dive in the next episode
on quarterbacks overall, but as as we look at the
percentages Jake Browning, based on the fact that he's got
two of the best pass catchers in the game, I'm
also going to go down a little bit deeper and
give you one to stash and let's see how it
plays out for the next couple of weeks. In Yoshavish,
(45:55):
who became a target and it'd been working with him
on the second unit, so I think you're going to
see a target count there as he gets more and
more comfortable. He's a guy that's been in the system,
so you get a little bit of a helper there.
As you go a little deeper down, you've got about
half of the league's look. Trevor Lawrence is gonna have
his ups and downs, but he's gonna keep winging the
(46:17):
ball around. So we'll take a look down his way.
And then we mentioned Mac Jones a little bit earlier.
You can take a ride down that highway if you want.
Sam Darnold your guy. He may only have one receiver
right now, Dan, but available in most leagues, and with
all the injuries we've got out there, you've got He
(46:38):
and Bryce Young are two of the guys that'll be
of the more active. Young had a nice twenty two
point performance in that game against Arizona. As you laid
it out and then check your league, Daniel Jones, people
were reticent after week one. After Week two, I got
to assume that we get too near to one hundred
after this.
Speaker 1 (46:58):
I will say that the Seahawks do walk of the
Saints to town, so that could be a friendlier matchup
for Darnold. Does the Saints get out of the Dome
for the first time this season? And yeah, of all
the matchups Division showdown Colts Tennessee, I'm gonna be a
little intriguing with that Daniel Jones pick up for sure.
Speaker 5 (47:17):
Yeah, no question about it. In Tennessee, they hung around
for a while and then just too much DeVante Adams
and that defense, no question about it. To the running
back position, Rashaan White, we talked about him. If nothing else,
he becomes a stash proposition to see how much they
deploy a two back offense there in Tampa. Going forward,
(47:38):
another stash Tank Bigsby who got traded to Philadelphia. So
if he does eventually either work a larger workshare or
in the worst scenario of something befalling Saquon Barkley, suddenly
you've got an option Camp Scatabo. Going back to a
guy we talked about a little bit, Quinn Shawn Judkins.
(47:58):
He's going to get his opportun tunity. He's available in
about forty percent of leagues as we move forward. And
then one that's still a little bit surprising, a guy
that we thought might lose a bunch of share early on,
available in one third of leagues.
Speaker 3 (48:13):
Two great weeks in a row. Ramandre Stevenson of your
New England Patriots for another bit of an opportunity of
a guy who right now Henderson's not getting a workload,
and it may be a while before we see that
get overtaken.
Speaker 1 (48:28):
I'll tell you one of the things.
Speaker 4 (48:30):
And I watched a bunch of that game on Sunday,
But Henderson three down back, like you can play him
on and have him work in pass pro. He missed
some spots and if there's anything that's going to take
you off the field. It's missing blocks, especially in that situation,
and Stevenson ran the ball really well in that contest
(48:51):
against Miami, so he deserves to get an opportunity. So
I think that's a pretty good suggestion for the Patriots,
who I don't think they're going to win pretty but
I think they're gonna win some football games. Now, I
got the Steelers coming to town, and I think that's
a winnable football game because I think Pittsburgh showed some
wartz against Seattle this past weekend. All right, Ian, any
(49:11):
final thoughts from you as we wrap this up?
Speaker 6 (49:13):
Now, that'll do it for me, guys.
Speaker 3 (49:14):
Good show.
Speaker 4 (49:15):
All right, So for Mike Carmen, Ian Roddy, and myself
Dan Byer, we will be talking quarterbacks, all the injuries
that were littered throughout JJ McCarthy, Jayden Daniels, Joe Burrow,
and so much more and justin field.
Speaker 1 (49:29):
Sorry, Ian had also included Jet's QB. We'll talk about
it in the next episode of I Want Your Flex
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