December 30, 2025 • 41 mins
It's Fox Sports Radio's official fantasy football podcast! With Mike Harmon out for the week, Dan Beyer and producer Ian Roddy open the show with their thoughts and reactions following the Falcons' big win over the Rams on Monday Night Football! Is Bijan the best running back in the league? Then they get into the rest of Week 17, going through the best and worst performances from a fantasy standpoint and breaking down the players that won and lost championships for their managers. Plus, the guys share a few potential waiver wire adds for desperate teams heading into week 18!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Ladies.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
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Speaker 3 (00:12):
This is I want your Flex.
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Here's Dan Bayer and Mike Harmon.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
If you're listening to this podcast, I sure hope that
you won your fantasy football league. If not, I'm even
more Proudia for hanging out After Week seventeen, Ian Roddy
is here. There is no Mike Harmon. He is with
the family in Florida. So Ian and I have you
covered for the week seventeen recap. We'll do our report
cards at the end of the show. But Ian Week
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seventeen ends up in dramatic fashion with the heck of
a performance by Bijon Robinson. And you know, Pokin Nakua
has been enormous for fantasy football players. I just have
to think that that would be catch on the sideline.
And heck, there were a bunch of other moments of
Poka of what could have would a should have for him,
but some drama on Monday night. Bijon Robinson won you
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some leagues, Pooka Nakua may have given you a heartbreak
for what could have.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Been definitely, And I actually I can speak from experience
because Bijon won me my league.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
It was coming he did, all right, congratulations.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
Thank you, thank you. I was up by about ten
points something like that, around ten and Bijon made it
a very made it a comfortable win for me.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
So that's a way. That's the that's the way to
go out. And here's the other good thing about like
Bijon winning it is he was probably a top three
pick in your draft. Oh he was right, maybe top five,
So yeah, I took him three. You have the yeah
when you have the studs come through if you're in
a full point PPR. We do all of our scoring
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breakdowns half point to kind of meet the middle between
full point and standard. But Bijon was up there with
Jamar Chase, with Jamiir Gibbs, like these were the Saquon
Barkley top guys. And for Bijon to come through in
the clutch like he did is a great great feeling,
especially when you've had some ups and downs throughout the year,
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but it doesn't feel like a fluke. And that's the
thing sometimes we get in these fantasy seasons. And I've
noticed this now with the extra game in weeks. With
it was seventeen week season, if you will, But now
with this seventeen game NFL schedule, it feels like the
fantasy football season has changed because we see teams trying
to play for the long haul. If you have a playoff,
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playoff aspirations, you may be taking care of some of
your guys. Maybe they're not getting the snaps or reps
that they normally would, maybe they're getting a breather here
or there. So I think it's changed over the time
that we've had the seventeen game schedule. But to be
able to have one of your guys, to have you
not be a fluke to I don't know if you
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were eight and six or what your record was was
going in, but it's really good to have the top
guys payoff. And this is no disrespect to anybody that
played Luther Burden the third but like it would feel
cheap if you had Luther Burden in your roster and
let's say you had had an injury, maybe you were
playing DK Metcalf. I don't know why you would. I
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don't know why you would, But all I have to
say is if you played Luther Burden the third, you
may be feeling a little bit dirty about the win.
And Bijon, a performance like Bjon's, a performance like Derrick Henry's,
to me, solidifies what it's all about in fantasy football.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
I'm with you, and I get that, but I just
feel like there's no it's such a in football in general,
Like there's just no room for feeling icky about stuff
like that, you know, like it's so up and down,
And like you said, when a guy like Bijon actually
comes through in a chinampionship week like this, that's huge
and that's something to celebrate because you look across the
league at guys like like James Cook I was playing
against in my championship and thank the heavens, he only
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scored eight Fantasy points because he's been on such a
tear recently. It's like you just can't, yeah, can't take
it for granted. So when when one of your studs
actually performs like a stud week in and week out,
and especially when he does it in the championship and
I gotta have it time. It's beautiful. This is why
we play Fantasy Dan.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
This is what stands out to me, and we always
like to go around and what stood out in Week seventeen,
But just as a whole, and I bring up Luther
Burden the third because Jamar Chase finally got into the
end zone like it had been been a long time,
but he finally got into the end zone and he
got in twice for the Bengals. So Jamar Chase's two
touchdown day put him third of all the wide receivers
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in fantasy football. But why I'm harping on the big
names is when I look at the wide receivers that
were above, say Puka Nakula, So Pooka Nakua in a
half point PPR gave you thirteen point two points on
Monday Night against the Falcons, Jalen McMillan was ahead of him,
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Parker Washington was ahead of him, Cavante Turpin was ahead
of him, Jayden Higgins was ahead of him on a
two catch performance, Wandale Robinson was ahead of him. Michael
Wilson was ahead of him. Now Wilson's a little different
story because he has had a rapport with Jakobe Brissett
since he's been out. But nobody was taking Michael Wilson
in the first or second round of fantasy drafts at all.
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Christian Watson reappeared. He ended up being a top five
play this week. So you had all these different names
that you just weren't used to, Like Jamar Chase and
Chris o'lave were kind of the big names in receiving
this week, and those are the names that go down
in fantasy lore. In our league, old tight end from
the Denver Broncos, Byron Chamberlain was his name. Caught a
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fluke touchdown. I've talked about it a bunch on this podcast.
In fact, I said, I think I talked about it
a couple of weeks ago. I sent the clip to
our fantasy football group chat, like, remember Byron Chamberlain. But
you know somebody is like, remember the Jayden Higgins game
when you had to pay to play the Texans wide
receiver and in the first drive of their game on Saturday,
he catches a bomb touchdown and gives you all the
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points that you need. Those are the things that pop
up and while the winner, it's great to have that
little little nugget. I just like it as the overall
view of fantasy to have a guy like Vijon and
Derrick Henry Jamar Chase coming through finally when you need
him leading you to fantasy glory. That's what I think is.
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It's all about those great they're great stories, don't get
me wrong with that, but when you need to put
your best foot forward and you're accumulating and trying to
build your lineup week in and week out to have
it come to fruition in a week seventeen. And I
don't know about you, Ian, but I look at the
playoffs when I'm trying to make decisions on certain guys.
So I want this guy in week fifteen or sixteen
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or week seventeen, what's their matchup? Like, I look ahead
at that stuff. If it's a tiebreaker situation, maybe I'll
try to go with a guy that the think's going
to have an easier schedule. So I just think that
those decisions end up paying off.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
Yeah, definitely when it's especially when it comes to trades
and stuff like in season trades. Especially then when you're
looking at guys who their playoff matchups are. That's super,
super important, and obviously now that we're in the playoffs,
since that's never been more apparent. But yeah, to your
point with like the Jaden Higgins thing, it's big when
guys that you draft to fill the big roles on
your team, like Beijon are able to come through for you,
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and then you can kind of compliment them with guys
like Jaden Higgins who have big performances when it matters
like that.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
So, yeah, I know that Mike Harmen is not here.
I just want to let everybody know that my four
year old son maybe in the background of the podcast
from time to time. So if you do hear a
random voice or a dinosaur roar, that's what it's coming from.
So I appreciate everyone's patience. Ian if someday you look
(07:59):
to see there we go. There's a dinosaur roar in
this podcast right now. I don't know if you can
hear it in the background, but this is what Winter
Break is all about. So we're recording this right after
by the way, and I don't want to be a
bad parent. We're on the West Coast. It's right after
Monday night football, so it's not as late as it
may seem. No, But okay, by the way, that was
(08:21):
me the sound of me losing in my semi final
game last week. That's how it sounded like. All right,
all right, Bud, we're gonna keep it quiet here. Daddy's
got to talk some more football with Ian here on.
I want your flex. You know, when you look at
some of the names that step out or stand out
in this stretch run, someone like Chris Olave from the Saints,
and you know, we talk so much about Tyler Shook
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and what he's done for the Saints, but Olave has
been the biggest benefactor, ends up having the second best
day as a wide receiver. I know you like the
Saints and in streaming defenses, but o'lave is a guy
that if you stuck with him throughout the season, ends
up coming up huge for you, not only in Week
seventeen or sixteen, but also in Week seventeen in your
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championship game. That's another name that stands out to me
that probably brought someone a fantasy title because of their
production this past weekend.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
Yeah, when you're able to benefit from guys who are
benefactors of someone like a Tyler Shuck who kind of
takes it well, I don't know. I was about to
say takes the league by storm. That's a little right
saving for him. But a guy who exceeds all expectations
and is kind of a story in his own right
to have one of the guys who benefits from that directly,
like Chris o'lave.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Yeah, there are some other names that end up popping
up here and there throughout the season. And when I
look at the running back position, I mentioned Derrick Henry
a bit earlier, and we say it's such a unique
season because it's things have just been unique in Baltimore
all season long. But when you look at the running
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back totals, we know how good Christian McCaffrey has been.
We know how good Jonathan Taylor was. Even as Taylor
kind of tailed off, he was still at least getting
into the end zone for you. Yeah, we mentioned Bejon
at the start. And when we look at the running
back position, Ravens running back Derrick Henry, to me, what
an amazing story for Week seventeen coming through with the
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enormous four touchdown game against the Packers. But he also
had the good game against the Patriots the week before.
And this was a guy that burst onto the scene
in week one, and I say burst onto the scene.
I just burst onto the season. I should say not
the scene, but we burst onto the season. Ends up
having twenty eight point seven points per game against the
Bills in that opener, and then a couple of stinkers
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along the way.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
Yeah, you had the funding issues.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Yeah yeah, and then Lamar Get's hurt in week four,
he kind of picks up his game. But we're still
not talking about the Ravens Okay outings. But if you
were able to ride with Derrick Henry, he came through
in the clutch, which was something that I wasn't sure
he would be able to do. And nobody's predicting a
four touchdown effort, but I thought it would be more
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like the games when it was the middle of the
season with Cooper Rush and then when you had snoopunt
Lee in and when Lamar Jackson was even limited during
those times, those were the type of games maybe a
nineteen point game, maybe a twelve point game he'd get
from Derrick Henry. In fact, he ends up having his
first and third best outputs during the playoffs. So if
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you had Dereck Henry and your team, you probably did
pretty well. If you were in the playoffs, you probably
won your fantasy football league.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
It's just annoying me because it's so hard to predict
when those weeks come from him. He's always been such
like a matchup proved guy, but this has been the
first year where that hasn't necessarily been the case for him.
I don't know if it's because he specifically's taken a
step back or if it's more of just like a
Ravens thing. But the fact that they were playing the
Packers this week, like, nothing about that matchup screams yes,
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you have to start Derrick Henry here, other than the
fat that it's Derrick Henry. So it's just like and
then he ended up four touchdowns, two hundred plus rushing yards.
It's like, there's no way to predict things like that,
But when they come, boy, are you glad that they
do if you're a Derek Henry owner.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
A couple of names that may have won near year
leagues or that will be consistent with fantasy rosters that
won championships, and the players that I mentioned, Chase Broun
of the Bengals great back to back week again getting
in on all the fun that Cincinnati had against the
Cardinals in Week seventeen. Didn't match the trifecta that he
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had in Week sixteen, but still in Week seventeen put
up twenty seven point six points. And then Romandre Stevenson
of New England would He's been a conversation for us
throughout this season because of Trayveon Henderson, And I'll admit
in my third place game, I didn't even take my
own advice. I ended up playing Henderson once he got
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cleared from his concussion, and I think that you're going
to play you would play him anyway, just because of
the big playability, right like, you never know when Trevon
Henderson is going to break a seventy five yard touchdown run.
But we knew that there was going to be split.
We knew that the Patriots had bigger fish to fries
the phrase that I like to use. But if you
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had Romandre Stevenson at a by low in any case scenario,
and you played him at all, especially in Week seventeen
where you could give them, you would think, okay, they're
playing against the Jets, could be an opportunity Romandra Stevenson
may have saved the day for you.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
Yeah, unfortunately he did. My Jets just get absolutely embarrassed
every single week. And I don't even know if Aaron
Glenn makes it to next season at this point, but.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
That is that's going to be a topic that we
will dive into. We'll find out maybe in a week.
I thought at one point that there was no way
he was not going to return, like he was going
to be back in twenty twenty eight.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
I would even say if you'd ask me like a
week ago, I would say, like, there's just no chance
that he's not back next year. Because of the fact
that they traded U Sauce Gardner and Quinn Williams mid
season and got all those picks back, Like that showed me, Okay,
Woody Johnson Jets ownership, they're viewing this as a year
zero for Glenn. They're gonna let him have his shot
at this thing. And that was that's what that told me,
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And I think that was fully the plan, and I
guess probably still is. But the fact that we're even
having questions about it now because it's an every week thing,
like there's just no way even even bad teams across
the league. Don't get embarrassed this consistently, and it comes
down to coaching. At a certain point.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
It's we'll find out next week on what the plan
is with the New York Jets, if they even have
a plan. But the fact that Aaron Glenn was changing
his tune on the effort of the team and then
backtracking and saying it wasn't effort, well then it must
have been coaching. Either way. It doesn't look too good
for the Jets. But when you have the Patriots and
you have Drake May, another name that may have won
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you year fantasy league. Because it was five touchdown passes,
I yell m out of my guillotine league. And the
reason being is I thought that the Patriots were going
to crush the Jets, but I didn't think that then
New England would. I didn't think Drake May would have
five touchdowns. I thought, Okay, Trey Van Henderson's going to
have some, there's going to be some for Romandre Stevenson.
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They'll maybe just you know, take their foot off the
gas and be fine with it. So I didn't play
Drake May in a guilloteamleagu wouldn't have mattered anyway, but
five touchdown passes. If you rode Drake May in your
lineup and he's been really, really good, he probably won
you fantasy league. That's to have five touchdown passes in
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your championship game at halftime, there is no point in
complaining about anything else because he really can't get better
than that. Magnificent for Drake May.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
And and Trevor Lawrence did it against the Jets a
couple of weeks ago too, So it's just step right
up and take your shot at these guys right now.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Yeah, and the fir As good as Drake May has been,
Brock Pertty was even better. We saw what he did
on Sunday night, second straight five touchdown game. Heck, second
five touchdown game in a span of a week, because
remember played on Monday night in Week sixteen against the
Indianapolis Colts and then goes and play Sunday night against
the Bears, and this time runs for three touchdowns. Excuse me,
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runs for two touchdowns, it throws another three. He threw
for five against the Colts, this time using some of
the groundwork. But brock perty your top quarterback for the week.
And then there's Malik Willis I don't think anybody played
Milik Willis, but he ended up being third in Fantasy points.
So if you're in a super Flex and somehow Milik
Willis found his way into your lineup, that's going to
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be a story you're going to talk about for decades.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
Yeah, you give yourself a pat on the back, all right.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
So those are the highs. Those are a lot of
the highs. When we come back and I want your fleas,
we're going to talk about some of the lows. Plus
we've got some the report cards to do and a
couple of waiver wire pickups. Maybe your league does go
to Week eighteen. It shouldn't, but if it does, we'll
have a couple of waiver wire pickups for you as well.
All that and so much more, And there's a reason
to play daily Fantasy too, to keep you interested in
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the last week. It's all coming up next here on
I want your Flex, it is I want your flex.
He is Ian, Roddy, I'm Dan Byron know Mike Harmon
Today Harmon vacationing with the fam in Florida. So Ian
and I have got you covered. We talked a lot
about the hits. There were a couple of other hits
that you wanted to mention at least popping up on
the on the radar for Week seventeen of some guys
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that may have brought titles home for certain teams that
we saw this past Sunday ian who stood out to
you in the running back position?
Speaker 3 (17:28):
Yeah, well, the only the only other one I wanted
to get to there in that last time, it was
just Zach Sharbonick. Just a huge week from him, and
nothing in particular to point out there, just the fact
that it's either him or Ken Walker every week. And
as we're about to start talking about guys who who
came up short and disappointed you in your championship week,
it was Charboney was the hit and Walker was the
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miss amongst.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
Yes too, and Sharbone just says charbon is still the
play even though Walker is the more dynamic runner when
it comes down to the end zone, what they do
in the red zone, how they play, Charbonne's to play.
And then he had a big run against Carolina and
was able to cash in and get into the end
zone for the Seahawks and that win against Carolina. But
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the Seahawks backfield is one that we have been talking
about throughout this season, all.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
Season, and I mean, and it's just the position rank
on the season. Zach Sharboney twenty fifth among running backs,
Ken Walker twenty third among running backs.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
So it's just.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
Mind bogglingly frustrating. But hey, Charboney finally had a good
one and it was in a big week.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
The Yeah, there are a couple of guys that you
probably would have hoped would have brought you some fantasy success,
but ultimately when it counted the most, maybe they didn't
live up to the expectation that you would have hoped.
Kenneth Walker is definitely one of those names. Jalen Warren
pretty quiet day for the Pittsburgh Steelers. I hate to
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say that Saquon Barkley was expected, but it was kind
of expected. The Eagles had an atrocious day. Jalen hurts.
They didn't complete a pass in the second half. Imagine
that not completing a pass in the second half of
a game against the Buffalo Bills. If that game was
in Week six, Ian, I feel like it could have
been forty five to forty two. And then instead it's
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cold and windy and rainy, and things lock up and
the Eagles sure get the win because the Bills decided
to go for two, but there was not any fantasy
love there. We mentioned James Cook a little bit earlier.
He obviously in that same conversation. Ashton Genty, after the
great game that he had against the Texans in week sixteen,
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did not have it against the Giants in week seventeen.
But again, if you had Ashton Genty on your team,
you probably weren't making it to the championship game. But again,
just a big name that ended up not coming through
in the clutch, and I think the biggest name of all.
And I think this is the most frustrating thing. I
would say the most frustrating situation. Mike talked about this
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a lot, was the on off pattern of Jamar Gibbs,
but it just completely fell off after Week fourteen. I
ended up having four point four points in a half
point PPR in the game against Minnesota on Christmas Day,
and Jamiir Gibbs was right alongside Bijon Robinson and Jamar
Chase for guys that you were looking at maybe taking
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number one overall in your fantasy league, and so for
Jamiir Gibbs to come up with four point four if
you Rode Jamiir Gibbs in his hot streak, good for you,
but he likely cost you in that championship game.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
And the most frustrating part is that it was a
must win game for the Lions. So if you had
started him, and well, obviously you started him, but if
you'd started him with the hope that he was gonna
come in with a big performance, like you had ever
reason to think so, but it was it was not
to be.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
Yeah, I was expecting a lot more from the can
against Tampa in that game, just because we know that
Tampa's d has been susceptible and they were to a
couple of Quinn Yours passes. But you know, a Chan
ended up with eleven point two outscored by the likes
of Devin Singletary, RJ Harvey, Brice Hall even breaking off
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a big run for your New York Jets, and Bill
Jacory Krossky merrit with the big game on Christmas Day
for the Commanders, even in defeat, got you twenty two
and a half points. Let's look at the some of
the running backs that maybe didn't serve you too well,
the wide receiver position as well. When we look at
week seventeen of the names of players that you hoped
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or that maybe you were riding, but ultimately just didn't
show up when you needed them the most. I'll tell
you what I held on to to Mike Evans for
a while. I had George Pickens for a while and
nice games Evans getting into the end zone. But now
you kind of I wonder where are we at with
the yardage because looking ahead the next season, he comes
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out after the injury, he has one hundred and thirty
yard game on a Thursday night against the Falcons. I
think it was against the Falcons, but on Thursday night
football ends up having one hundred and thirty yards in
that contest. That's right because Raheem Moore stared into the
camera after it, but then just ends up becoming a
red zone threat. Only has about thirty yards receiving in
the game. So Mike Evans a little bit of a
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disappointment despite coming back from that injury. George Pickens, for
as great as he was with when Ceedee Lamb was
out still at his moments, just didn't have his moment
in Week seventeen. And Jackson Smith and Jigba, who was
so key and so important at so many spots throughout
the season, just seven point two in the game against
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Carolina this past weekend. So JSN probably didn't live up
to the expectations that you would you would have hoped
when you were playing your fantasy or championship game.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
And as a JSN owner, I have been sweating a
little bit and kind of wondering whether something like this
has been coming, because I think it was even last
week where he went most of the game and it
was pretty underwhelming, and it wasn't until like the very
end where he finally caught a touchdown from Donald I
think this was last week and correct me if I'm wrong, Dan,
but he ended up finally like salvaging his game there.
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And it's just like when you and I and it
had been a few a few weeks straight of that,
and when you start to see that, you have a
few questions about about when a dud is coming. And
it happened to come in the championship week here, and
that's unfortunate.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
Here's here's something with JSN that's that's interesting because this
has kind of been the rumbling. So with JASN, we've
seen earlier on in the season fifty three yard reception,
forty five yard reception, looking at a sixty one, looking
at a sixty three. Since he had that big game
against Tennessee, the biggest play that he's had is a
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thirty nine yarder against the Colts, and that was big
to say the Seahawks up for a win. But those
big plays downfield haven't been there for the Seahawks and
haven't been there for JSN even more.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
That is the sticks type of guy, by the way,
that could.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
Play into their success in the playoffs, even if they
are able to get the number one seed. The offense,
we know Sam Darnold's an issue, and we know the
running games an issue, but even some of the big
plays from JSN that bailed them out earlier in the
season just weren't there. But Jaysn, for as great as
he was throughout the season, probably didn't help you as
much in the postseason as you would have hoped. So
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those are just a couple of the names that I
thought popped up in terms of not winning you your
fantasy league. You know, the tight end position rarely has
an impact ian as we look at how things play
out in a championship game. Coast and Loveland ended up
being your top tight end for Week seventeen, but the
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Niners not having Kittle, Trey McBride was able to, you know,
salvage his day with some late scoring against the Cincinnati Bengals.
But the tight end position, yeah, if you had someone
like Kittle unfortunately didn't cash in. Maybe you had Coastin
Loveland on your bench and were able to cash in,
or you took Jake Tong just because Kittle was on
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the bench. He may have come through for you. But
that was just a glance at the tight end position.
Aronde Gatsten had a lot of opportunities for the Chargers
after he peaked in the middle of the season and
in that game against the Texans that I was at
on Saturday. In fact, the interception that the isis l
Shire had against Justin Herbert off of Gatston's hands was
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right in front of us, so he had a pretty
good look at that. But the tight end position probably
didn't win or lose you a game in the championship weekend.
But overall, like, oh go ahead, I'm.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
Sorry, No, I was just gonna say, I mean, I
like Tyler Warren is someone who sticks out because he's
been He obviously started the year so hot, and he
was an offense of Rookie of the Year candidate, and
I'm pretty sure I even said at one point on
the pod like he might be the best tight end
in the league at this point, but like it might
have been the week that I said that that he
actually started falling off. So I'm sorry Tyler to do
(26:11):
that to you, but but yeah, I mean this week
was another not a dud for him. He had nine
point three points in PPR leagues here, but if you
were in a non PPR league, if for you know,
I know, we like to go by judge by a
half PPR pod here. Not a great week for Tyler Warren,
which I think is also ironic because the flat that
the Bears took for taking Colston Loveland ahead of him
(26:32):
in the NFL draft, because Warren had been the consensus
tight end one and it was like they took Loveland
and it was like what are they doing? And now
in a big week for fantasy purposes, Loveland was the
one who came up big and was the tight end
one on the week, and Warren was pretty underwhelming this week.
Not saying I who I would rather have long term,
but at least for fantasy purposes. It's kind of an
(26:53):
interesting little tidbit there.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
Well, I do want to correct myself because as I
was reading it, something was wrong with what I was saying,
because I'm like, I thought Trey McBride had a better game.
My scoring thing reset to the standard scoring. So the
halfpoint PPR loved in was second McBride first with the
ten receptions that he had against Cincinnati. But yeah, yeah,
it doesn't necessarily change the conversation at all. But I
(27:17):
do think that the theme is is we had some
of the biggest names, you know, the in fantasy football
come through for you in some of the biggest ways,
you know, specifically with a guy like Derrick Henry and
specifically with a guy like Bjohn Robinson. And the great
thing about for those that had Bejon Robinson was it
was the Monday night game. It wasn't just a Sunday
(27:39):
one o'clock Eastern time kickoff. You were maybe going into
your game saying like, Okay, I just need nineteen points
from Bijon and I win it, and then he rips
off a ninety three yard touchdown run and that's how
fantasy memories are made.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
It kind of shows just with running backs in general, Like,
I feel like the position we kind of went into
a little bit of a funk there for a few
years where it felt like the running back kind of
not for fantasy purposes, but just in general in the
sport of football, it felt like the position was being
a little bit devalued. But when you look at guys
like last year Saquon being a borderline MVP candidate and
then Bijon coming and just absolutely exploding on primetime. Obviously
(28:14):
you said the ninety three yard run, it shows that
there's actually real, real value in these guys, and it
might be worth taking a look at guys like Jeremiah
Love really really early in the NFL draft come April,
just because guys like this, guys who were like transcendent
talents at the position, they can really really swing the
game for an NFL team.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
I'll be looking when we do our top sixty draft.
We'll have to see who grabs Jeremiah Love first. Ian
was the one who jumped in on the Omari and
Hampton now Hampton injury prone this year. But there were
two rookies taken in our top sixty last year. It
was Genti and it was Hampton. We'll see if love
or anybody else breaks through that coming up later on
(28:56):
in February. It's actually a really good opportunity. And to
give a reminder to people, there's just two episodes this week.
With the New Year's holiday and no games going on
on Thursday, we've just got the Saturday Sunday slate. We
can get all we need to get done in our
Friday episode, our rankings episode. Mich will be back for that,
(29:16):
but there was no midweek episode, and then we'll be
breaking down and going down to our one time a
week episodes throughout the NFL playoffs, so we'll be doing
that once he regular season wraps up. We'll take you
all the way through the Super Bowl and even a
couple of weeks past that to give you some stuff
to look ahead to in twenty twenty six. Speaking of
(29:38):
looking ahead, we're gonna wrap this up with a look
at our report cards, plus a couple of waiver wire
picks to pick up for Week eighteen if you want
to stay interested in fantasy. He's Ian Ronnie, I'm Dan Byer.
That's next here on. I want your flex All right,
let's do report card time. I'll tell you what Mike Harmon.
Christian McCaffrey was his number one running back. Cash is in,
(30:00):
Chase Brown was his number two running back, cash is in.
Derreck Henry was his number four running back. Cash is in.
Bijon Robinson his number five running back cash is in. Now.
It may not have all been in that order, but
a very very strong output for Mike Harmon. In the
running back report card portion of this program, the wide
receivers Jamar Chase Chris o'lav were top five plays for him.
(30:24):
A couple of Ninjas had Tyler Shook in there as
a play had Romandre Stevenson as well, who ended up
cashing in for the New England Patriots in their contest
against Ian's New York Jets. So that was a hit.
Caleb Williams of the Bears was a hot play for
Mike Harmon and one of the cold sores that he had.
(30:46):
Sam Donald again just us talking about the Seahawks struggles.
Donald was a cold play, as was Baker Mayfield, as
was Bucky Irving. Neither did much against the Dolphins in
their contest in South Florida earlier this week. Karen Williams
ended up being kept in check by the Falcons d
on Monday Night. That was on the Cold source list.
(31:06):
Nico Collins kept in check by the Chargers defense. He
was also on the Cold source list. So, Mike Carmon
doing some good work in week seventeen when you needed
the most. How did your streaming defenses shape out? Ian
for Week seventeen.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
Yeah, it's almost like Mike knows what the heck he's
talking about.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
Right, Yeah, right, how about that?
Speaker 3 (31:26):
But streaming defenses good week for us. We'll start with
the Saints. They got you twelve fantasy points if you
listened to me and went ahead and started them. Twenty
six points allowed on the day. They had a fumble
recovery touchdown, thank you Chase Young, and then four sacks
as well. So twelve fantasy points for the Saints. That
was a pretty strong week from them. And then the
New York Giants, they were huge play one of the
(31:48):
best defenses on the week. Nineteen fantasy points they got you,
only allowed ten points, They had two interceptions, one of
which was a pick six, and they also sacked four times.
So'sful streaming defense week.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
In Championship Week, survivor I said I was going opposite
on me and I'm like, hey, I like to pick
home teams when it comes to Survivor. I was wrong
about the Saints being a six win team, because they
are now officially a six win team. Congratulation. I said,
if you wanted to sign on someone and Survivor in
that game, maybe Sad with the Titans, that was a
bad pick. Packers were a question mark just because of
(32:22):
Jordan love status, and then Milik Willis ends up getting
hurt in that contest, so they lose to the Ravens,
so that was a lost cause. I also threw out
the Raiders for a Survivor zero to three. But you
don't need to take my advice in week seventeen of
Survivor if you've made it this far, because you've done
pretty well. I checked out my Survivor pool that I
lasted through fourteen weeks ian they're about fifteen hundred entries
(32:46):
still left or that started in the pool, and there
were I believe eleven excuse me, twelve entries still alive. Wow,
through seventeen weeks, and a lot of people have the
Jaguars to be able to to be able to pick
in week eighteen, Jacksonville should have something to play for
(33:07):
they're playing the Titans that could end up being a pick.
So yeah, there's there's interesting to see on how it,
you know, shakes out. But in the Circa Survivor contest,
there's I believe five and excuse me, I counted wrong,
nine entries still alive for the the big Circa Survivor
(33:28):
pool out of the thousands upon thousands that they get
it they had excuse me, let me just take a look.
Here as I look at it, each entry in the
Circa contest right now, the nine that are left implied
value two point eight million dollars. Oh yeah, there.
Speaker 3 (33:49):
Do you know how involved though, like a thousands and
thousands of people were in there, you know, it's yes,
everyone puts tons of effort into those. It's like to
be one of a few remaining.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
And the Circa, the Circa one also has the they
have double pick weeks. So then this one that I'm in,
I think one of the reasons why we have twelve
guys still alive is because there weren't double pick weeks.
Like you weren't picking the A team on the Christmas
Day games, you weren't doing that on the Thanksgiving Day
and then having to make a pick later on that week.
That does weed out the field pretty quickly when you
(34:22):
have like those double pick weeks. So that actually may
be a bit of advice for those that are running
or entering that maybe those sort of pools are you'll
have a better chance, because I do think if you're
just making one pick every week, it's easier to navigate.
I mean, there's then only eighteen teams to choose from,
as opposed to twenty two to twenty three, twenty four.
(34:44):
So that's why you got the circle with the number
that they've got down to about nine, and the smaller
pool that I in still has twelve in. But the
circa gives you the multiple pick weeks throughout the season.
Speaking of picks, if your season is over and you
want to play daily fantasy, or maybe you are still
playing in week eighteen, there are some pickups to look at.
You always have to look at who's motivated to play,
(35:07):
who's not motivated to play, and who's dealing with injuries
who's not dealing with injuries. You can also find some
value in some teams that just don't have any interest
in playing in the playoffs anymore. How about Malik Davis
running back for the Cowboys. So with the Javonte Williams
being banged up in that game against the Commanders, Davis
ends up taking over. He could be a pickup for you.
(35:27):
Emanuel Wilson has been a name. With Josh Jacobs being out,
Ruth green Bay kind of locked into that seven spot
in the NFC. I'd be surprised if you saw Josh
Jacobs play. Audric Estime has obviously made a name for
himself a big week for the Saints in Week seventeen.
He could be a pickup as well. And Ray Davis
of the Bills. We know the Bills of James Cook,
(35:48):
we know they have Ty Johnson, but if the Bills
are going to rest their starters coming up against the
Jets in Week eighteen, Ray Davis could be a name
that you could target. As for the wide receivers, I
feel like Mike has talked about a guy like Parker
Washington before Luther Burden was dinged up at the end
of that forty nine Ers game for the Bears. But
(36:12):
you also have to think that the Bears have bigger
fish to fry in terms of how things play out.
So if there is something worried about Luther Burden if
you can grab him, it could be a possibility. But
with the number one seed going to either the forty
nine Ers or the Seahawks, the Bears are kind of
locked into their spot, so they may not be as
(36:35):
motivated as you would now. Granted, the Lions are coming
to town. Ben Johnson may have a bit of revenge,
but there could be an opportunity and in a game
that really means a lot for the NFC South Saturday Night.
How about Jalen McMillan for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Maybe
he could get something done. Of course, he didn't join
the team until past the midway point of the season
(36:56):
coming back from that neck injury, so he could be
an option for the waiver wire in Week eighteen. That
is going to do it for this podcast, and it
almost does it for the NFL regular season. Any parting
thoughts Ian Roddy.
Speaker 3 (37:08):
Yeah, just just a couple more waiver wire guys. I
don't know if you mentioned Jalen Kocher there. He sticks
out to me as well as Tis wise. Bryce Young
seems to look his way very touchdown dependent, but at
this point the season, that's kind of all we're looking
for and then Tyler Lockett as well, just trying to
revive his connection with Gino Smith from Seattle. He had
(37:28):
that touchdown this week. Obviously it wasn't a great fantasy
week for him, but just in general, they're playing a
Chiefs team that's completely spiraling right now. So if you're
looking for just a desperate dart throw, that's something I
would maybe look at as well.
Speaker 1 (37:40):
I would also think that Pete Carroll would want to
win this game. She had to save his but the
front point, yeah, but the front office, he's like, no, yeah, no,
doing all round the sec buddy. I know knocking off
the Chiefs would be fun, but we don't care about
this Chiefs team. Don't mess the up eighty percent chance
(38:01):
that the Raiders secure the first overall pick. I don't
know if it would be Mendoza. I'm not sure on
where they would go, but you don't want to risk it.
We've seen that happen in Week eighteen before. But yeah,
it'll be interesting to see, you know, with brock powers
down Air, an opportunity for at the tight end position
(38:23):
could be someone to pick up as well. To be
honest with you, Ian, I hate Week eighteen. Yeah, it's
just as like without I mean, granted, the Seahawks have
a huge game, so I'm going to be locked in,
but when it comes to the fantasy purposes, the league
should be done. And so it has such a different feel. Yeah,
when you're watching games and you're seeing big plays and
(38:43):
you're like, oh, that doesn't count for anything. It's a
very weird feeling that I think a lot of us
can relate to.
Speaker 3 (38:49):
I know, and I don't want to talk down on
fantasy commissioners in leagues who are still going right now
in week eighteen, but just consider in the future finishing
it up after Week seventeen, because there's so many starters
being rested, and it's just so inconsistent, inconsistent across the
league when it comes to to like how much effort
these guys are even going to be putting in Because
(39:10):
a lot of these guys they know they're in the
playoffs already, they're gonna be sitting, They're not gonna be
trying as hard. It's just it's just ruins ruins fantasy
for me. But I digress.
Speaker 1 (39:20):
I'll say this. When the DeMar Hamlin situation happened a
couple of years ago, there's so much controversy on how
you would end because that was a Week seventeen game.
What we decided I was in the championship game against
a team, and he and I decided because I had
I think I had Josh Allen and T Higgins, and
(39:41):
he had maybe like Joe Burrow and Jamar Chase or something,
but we had significant guys in that game. We decided,
we agreed, and we said, this is what we're going
to do. Because the game was canceled, We're going to
take what they did in Week eighteen because the game
still meant something for both teams. And so that was
the only time that I can remember watching a Week
(40:04):
eighteen game and actually having an outcome matter. Now I
know other leagues that were just like, sorry, game canceled, final,
you don't get it, And I felt that that was
just such an awful way to end the season. So
there was that one instance a couple of years back
where games actually did matter for our longtime league. In
Week eighteen, I ended up.
Speaker 3 (40:25):
Losing very extenuating circumstances.
Speaker 1 (40:28):
Though, yes, absolutely, but it was just weird watching a
Week eighteen in game and actually having a game matter
in that scenario.
Speaker 3 (40:38):
Yeah, I feel like a fever trail.
Speaker 1 (40:39):
I'm sure yes, So well, anyway, I hope you can
download the podcast again and we'll be back with one
episode later on this week, and then after the regular season,
we'll be rolling out one episode per week all the
way through mid February. So for Ian Roddy, my Carmin
will be back on Friday. I'm Dan, thanks so much
(41:01):
for hanging out and tuning in this or is I
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Speaker 1 (00:34):
If you're listening to this podcast, I sure hope that
you won your fantasy football league. If not, I'm even
more Proudia for hanging out After Week seventeen, Ian Roddy
is here. There is no Mike Harmon. He is with
the family in Florida. So Ian and I have you
covered for the week seventeen recap. We'll do our report
cards at the end of the show. But Ian Week
(00:55):
seventeen ends up in dramatic fashion with the heck of
a performance by Bijon Robinson. And you know, Pokin Nakua
has been enormous for fantasy football players. I just have
to think that that would be catch on the sideline.
And heck, there were a bunch of other moments of
Poka of what could have would a should have for him,
but some drama on Monday night. Bijon Robinson won you
(01:19):
some leagues, Pooka Nakua may have given you a heartbreak
for what could have.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Been definitely, And I actually I can speak from experience
because Bijon won me my league.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
It was coming he did, all right, congratulations.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
Thank you, thank you. I was up by about ten
points something like that, around ten and Bijon made it
a very made it a comfortable win for me.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
So that's a way. That's the that's the way to
go out. And here's the other good thing about like
Bijon winning it is he was probably a top three
pick in your draft. Oh he was right, maybe top five,
So yeah, I took him three. You have the yeah
when you have the studs come through if you're in
a full point PPR. We do all of our scoring
(02:02):
breakdowns half point to kind of meet the middle between
full point and standard. But Bijon was up there with
Jamar Chase, with Jamiir Gibbs, like these were the Saquon
Barkley top guys. And for Bijon to come through in
the clutch like he did is a great great feeling,
especially when you've had some ups and downs throughout the year,
(02:25):
but it doesn't feel like a fluke. And that's the
thing sometimes we get in these fantasy seasons. And I've
noticed this now with the extra game in weeks. With
it was seventeen week season, if you will, But now
with this seventeen game NFL schedule, it feels like the
fantasy football season has changed because we see teams trying
to play for the long haul. If you have a playoff,
(02:47):
playoff aspirations, you may be taking care of some of
your guys. Maybe they're not getting the snaps or reps
that they normally would, maybe they're getting a breather here
or there. So I think it's changed over the time
that we've had the seventeen game schedule. But to be
able to have one of your guys, to have you
not be a fluke to I don't know if you
(03:08):
were eight and six or what your record was was
going in, but it's really good to have the top
guys payoff. And this is no disrespect to anybody that
played Luther Burden the third but like it would feel
cheap if you had Luther Burden in your roster and
let's say you had had an injury, maybe you were
playing DK Metcalf. I don't know why you would. I
(03:30):
don't know why you would, But all I have to
say is if you played Luther Burden the third, you
may be feeling a little bit dirty about the win.
And Bijon, a performance like Bjon's, a performance like Derrick Henry's,
to me, solidifies what it's all about in fantasy football.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
I'm with you, and I get that, but I just
feel like there's no it's such a in football in general,
Like there's just no room for feeling icky about stuff
like that, you know, like it's so up and down,
And like you said, when a guy like Bijon actually
comes through in a chinampionship week like this, that's huge
and that's something to celebrate because you look across the
league at guys like like James Cook I was playing
against in my championship and thank the heavens, he only
(04:09):
scored eight Fantasy points because he's been on such a
tear recently. It's like you just can't, yeah, can't take
it for granted. So when when one of your studs
actually performs like a stud week in and week out,
and especially when he does it in the championship and
I gotta have it time. It's beautiful. This is why
we play Fantasy Dan.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
This is what stands out to me, and we always
like to go around and what stood out in Week seventeen,
But just as a whole, and I bring up Luther
Burden the third because Jamar Chase finally got into the
end zone like it had been been a long time,
but he finally got into the end zone and he
got in twice for the Bengals. So Jamar Chase's two
touchdown day put him third of all the wide receivers
(04:49):
in fantasy football. But why I'm harping on the big
names is when I look at the wide receivers that
were above, say Puka Nakula, So Pooka Nakua in a
half point PPR gave you thirteen point two points on
Monday Night against the Falcons, Jalen McMillan was ahead of him,
(05:10):
Parker Washington was ahead of him, Cavante Turpin was ahead
of him, Jayden Higgins was ahead of him on a
two catch performance, Wandale Robinson was ahead of him. Michael
Wilson was ahead of him. Now Wilson's a little different
story because he has had a rapport with Jakobe Brissett
since he's been out. But nobody was taking Michael Wilson
in the first or second round of fantasy drafts at all.
(05:30):
Christian Watson reappeared. He ended up being a top five
play this week. So you had all these different names
that you just weren't used to, Like Jamar Chase and
Chris o'lave were kind of the big names in receiving
this week, and those are the names that go down
in fantasy lore. In our league, old tight end from
the Denver Broncos, Byron Chamberlain was his name. Caught a
(05:52):
fluke touchdown. I've talked about it a bunch on this podcast.
In fact, I said, I think I talked about it
a couple of weeks ago. I sent the clip to
our fantasy football group chat, like, remember Byron Chamberlain. But
you know somebody is like, remember the Jayden Higgins game
when you had to pay to play the Texans wide
receiver and in the first drive of their game on Saturday,
he catches a bomb touchdown and gives you all the
(06:14):
points that you need. Those are the things that pop
up and while the winner, it's great to have that
little little nugget. I just like it as the overall
view of fantasy to have a guy like Vijon and
Derrick Henry Jamar Chase coming through finally when you need
him leading you to fantasy glory. That's what I think is.
(06:35):
It's all about those great they're great stories, don't get
me wrong with that, but when you need to put
your best foot forward and you're accumulating and trying to
build your lineup week in and week out to have
it come to fruition in a week seventeen. And I
don't know about you, Ian, but I look at the
playoffs when I'm trying to make decisions on certain guys.
So I want this guy in week fifteen or sixteen
(06:55):
or week seventeen, what's their matchup? Like, I look ahead
at that stuff. If it's a tiebreaker situation, maybe I'll
try to go with a guy that the think's going
to have an easier schedule. So I just think that
those decisions end up paying off.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
Yeah, definitely when it's especially when it comes to trades
and stuff like in season trades. Especially then when you're
looking at guys who their playoff matchups are. That's super,
super important, and obviously now that we're in the playoffs,
since that's never been more apparent. But yeah, to your
point with like the Jaden Higgins thing, it's big when
guys that you draft to fill the big roles on
your team, like Beijon are able to come through for you,
(07:31):
and then you can kind of compliment them with guys
like Jaden Higgins who have big performances when it matters
like that.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
So, yeah, I know that Mike Harmen is not here.
I just want to let everybody know that my four
year old son maybe in the background of the podcast
from time to time. So if you do hear a
random voice or a dinosaur roar, that's what it's coming from.
So I appreciate everyone's patience. Ian if someday you look
(07:59):
to see there we go. There's a dinosaur roar in
this podcast right now. I don't know if you can
hear it in the background, but this is what Winter
Break is all about. So we're recording this right after
by the way, and I don't want to be a
bad parent. We're on the West Coast. It's right after
Monday night football, so it's not as late as it
may seem. No, But okay, by the way, that was
(08:21):
me the sound of me losing in my semi final
game last week. That's how it sounded like. All right,
all right, Bud, we're gonna keep it quiet here. Daddy's
got to talk some more football with Ian here on.
I want your flex. You know, when you look at
some of the names that step out or stand out
in this stretch run, someone like Chris Olave from the Saints,
and you know, we talk so much about Tyler Shook
(08:42):
and what he's done for the Saints, but Olave has
been the biggest benefactor, ends up having the second best
day as a wide receiver. I know you like the
Saints and in streaming defenses, but o'lave is a guy
that if you stuck with him throughout the season, ends
up coming up huge for you, not only in Week
seventeen or sixteen, but also in Week seventeen in your
(09:02):
championship game. That's another name that stands out to me
that probably brought someone a fantasy title because of their
production this past weekend.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
Yeah, when you're able to benefit from guys who are
benefactors of someone like a Tyler Shuck who kind of
takes it well, I don't know. I was about to
say takes the league by storm. That's a little right
saving for him. But a guy who exceeds all expectations
and is kind of a story in his own right
to have one of the guys who benefits from that directly,
like Chris o'lave.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Yeah, there are some other names that end up popping
up here and there throughout the season. And when I
look at the running back position, I mentioned Derrick Henry
a bit earlier, and we say it's such a unique
season because it's things have just been unique in Baltimore
all season long. But when you look at the running
(09:52):
back totals, we know how good Christian McCaffrey has been.
We know how good Jonathan Taylor was. Even as Taylor
kind of tailed off, he was still at least getting
into the end zone for you. Yeah, we mentioned Bejon
at the start. And when we look at the running
back position, Ravens running back Derrick Henry, to me, what
an amazing story for Week seventeen coming through with the
(10:13):
enormous four touchdown game against the Packers. But he also
had the good game against the Patriots the week before.
And this was a guy that burst onto the scene
in week one, and I say burst onto the scene.
I just burst onto the season. I should say not
the scene, but we burst onto the season. Ends up
having twenty eight point seven points per game against the
Bills in that opener, and then a couple of stinkers
(10:36):
along the way.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
Yeah, you had the funding issues.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Yeah yeah, and then Lamar Get's hurt in week four,
he kind of picks up his game. But we're still
not talking about the Ravens Okay outings. But if you
were able to ride with Derrick Henry, he came through
in the clutch, which was something that I wasn't sure
he would be able to do. And nobody's predicting a
four touchdown effort, but I thought it would be more
(11:00):
like the games when it was the middle of the
season with Cooper Rush and then when you had snoopunt
Lee in and when Lamar Jackson was even limited during
those times, those were the type of games maybe a
nineteen point game, maybe a twelve point game he'd get
from Derrick Henry. In fact, he ends up having his
first and third best outputs during the playoffs. So if
(11:22):
you had Dereck Henry and your team, you probably did
pretty well. If you were in the playoffs, you probably
won your fantasy football league.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
It's just annoying me because it's so hard to predict
when those weeks come from him. He's always been such
like a matchup proved guy, but this has been the
first year where that hasn't necessarily been the case for him.
I don't know if it's because he specifically's taken a
step back or if it's more of just like a
Ravens thing. But the fact that they were playing the
Packers this week, like, nothing about that matchup screams yes,
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you have to start Derrick Henry here, other than the
fat that it's Derrick Henry. So it's just like and
then he ended up four touchdowns, two hundred plus rushing yards.
It's like, there's no way to predict things like that,
But when they come, boy, are you glad that they
do if you're a Derek Henry owner.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
A couple of names that may have won near year
leagues or that will be consistent with fantasy rosters that
won championships, and the players that I mentioned, Chase Broun
of the Bengals great back to back week again getting
in on all the fun that Cincinnati had against the
Cardinals in Week seventeen. Didn't match the trifecta that he
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had in Week sixteen, but still in Week seventeen put
up twenty seven point six points. And then Romandre Stevenson
of New England would He's been a conversation for us
throughout this season because of Trayveon Henderson, And I'll admit
in my third place game, I didn't even take my
own advice. I ended up playing Henderson once he got
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cleared from his concussion, and I think that you're going
to play you would play him anyway, just because of
the big playability, right like, you never know when Trevon
Henderson is going to break a seventy five yard touchdown run.
But we knew that there was going to be split.
We knew that the Patriots had bigger fish to fries
the phrase that I like to use. But if you
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had Romandre Stevenson at a by low in any case scenario,
and you played him at all, especially in Week seventeen
where you could give them, you would think, okay, they're
playing against the Jets, could be an opportunity Romandra Stevenson
may have saved the day for you.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
Yeah, unfortunately he did. My Jets just get absolutely embarrassed
every single week. And I don't even know if Aaron
Glenn makes it to next season at this point, but.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
That is that's going to be a topic that we
will dive into. We'll find out maybe in a week.
I thought at one point that there was no way
he was not going to return, like he was going
to be back in twenty twenty eight.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
I would even say if you'd ask me like a
week ago, I would say, like, there's just no chance
that he's not back next year. Because of the fact
that they traded U Sauce Gardner and Quinn Williams mid
season and got all those picks back, Like that showed me, Okay,
Woody Johnson Jets ownership, they're viewing this as a year
zero for Glenn. They're gonna let him have his shot
at this thing. And that was that's what that told me,
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And I think that was fully the plan, and I
guess probably still is. But the fact that we're even
having questions about it now because it's an every week thing,
like there's just no way even even bad teams across
the league. Don't get embarrassed this consistently, and it comes
down to coaching. At a certain point.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
It's we'll find out next week on what the plan
is with the New York Jets, if they even have
a plan. But the fact that Aaron Glenn was changing
his tune on the effort of the team and then
backtracking and saying it wasn't effort, well then it must
have been coaching. Either way. It doesn't look too good
for the Jets. But when you have the Patriots and
you have Drake May, another name that may have won
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you year fantasy league. Because it was five touchdown passes,
I yell m out of my guillotine league. And the
reason being is I thought that the Patriots were going
to crush the Jets, but I didn't think that then
New England would. I didn't think Drake May would have
five touchdowns. I thought, Okay, Trey Van Henderson's going to
have some, there's going to be some for Romandre Stevenson.
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They'll maybe just you know, take their foot off the
gas and be fine with it. So I didn't play
Drake May in a guilloteamleagu wouldn't have mattered anyway, but
five touchdown passes. If you rode Drake May in your
lineup and he's been really, really good, he probably won
you fantasy league. That's to have five touchdown passes in
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your championship game at halftime, there is no point in
complaining about anything else because he really can't get better
than that. Magnificent for Drake May.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
And and Trevor Lawrence did it against the Jets a
couple of weeks ago too, So it's just step right
up and take your shot at these guys right now.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Yeah, and the fir As good as Drake May has been,
Brock Pertty was even better. We saw what he did
on Sunday night, second straight five touchdown game. Heck, second
five touchdown game in a span of a week, because
remember played on Monday night in Week sixteen against the
Indianapolis Colts and then goes and play Sunday night against
the Bears, and this time runs for three touchdowns. Excuse me,
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runs for two touchdowns, it throws another three. He threw
for five against the Colts, this time using some of
the groundwork. But brock perty your top quarterback for the week.
And then there's Malik Willis I don't think anybody played
Milik Willis, but he ended up being third in Fantasy points.
So if you're in a super Flex and somehow Milik
Willis found his way into your lineup, that's going to
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be a story you're going to talk about for decades.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
Yeah, you give yourself a pat on the back, all right.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
So those are the highs. Those are a lot of
the highs. When we come back and I want your fleas,
we're going to talk about some of the lows. Plus
we've got some the report cards to do and a
couple of waiver wire pickups. Maybe your league does go
to Week eighteen. It shouldn't, but if it does, we'll
have a couple of waiver wire pickups for you as well.
All that and so much more, And there's a reason
to play daily Fantasy too, to keep you interested in
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the last week. It's all coming up next here on
I want your Flex, it is I want your flex.
He is Ian, Roddy, I'm Dan Byron know Mike Harmon
Today Harmon vacationing with the fam in Florida. So Ian
and I have got you covered. We talked a lot
about the hits. There were a couple of other hits
that you wanted to mention at least popping up on
the on the radar for Week seventeen of some guys
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that may have brought titles home for certain teams that
we saw this past Sunday ian who stood out to
you in the running back position?
Speaker 3 (17:28):
Yeah, well, the only the only other one I wanted
to get to there in that last time, it was
just Zach Sharbonick. Just a huge week from him, and
nothing in particular to point out there, just the fact
that it's either him or Ken Walker every week. And
as we're about to start talking about guys who who
came up short and disappointed you in your championship week,
it was Charboney was the hit and Walker was the
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miss amongst.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
Yes too, and Sharbone just says charbon is still the
play even though Walker is the more dynamic runner when
it comes down to the end zone, what they do
in the red zone, how they play, Charbonne's to play.
And then he had a big run against Carolina and
was able to cash in and get into the end
zone for the Seahawks and that win against Carolina. But
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the Seahawks backfield is one that we have been talking
about throughout this season, all.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
Season, and I mean, and it's just the position rank
on the season. Zach Sharboney twenty fifth among running backs,
Ken Walker twenty third among running backs.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
So it's just.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
Mind bogglingly frustrating. But hey, Charboney finally had a good
one and it was in a big week.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
The Yeah, there are a couple of guys that you
probably would have hoped would have brought you some fantasy success,
but ultimately when it counted the most, maybe they didn't
live up to the expectation that you would have hoped.
Kenneth Walker is definitely one of those names. Jalen Warren
pretty quiet day for the Pittsburgh Steelers. I hate to
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say that Saquon Barkley was expected, but it was kind
of expected. The Eagles had an atrocious day. Jalen hurts.
They didn't complete a pass in the second half. Imagine
that not completing a pass in the second half of
a game against the Buffalo Bills. If that game was
in Week six, Ian, I feel like it could have
been forty five to forty two. And then instead it's
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cold and windy and rainy, and things lock up and
the Eagles sure get the win because the Bills decided
to go for two, but there was not any fantasy
love there. We mentioned James Cook a little bit earlier.
He obviously in that same conversation. Ashton Genty, after the
great game that he had against the Texans in week sixteen,
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did not have it against the Giants in week seventeen.
But again, if you had Ashton Genty on your team,
you probably weren't making it to the championship game. But again,
just a big name that ended up not coming through
in the clutch, and I think the biggest name of all.
And I think this is the most frustrating thing. I
would say the most frustrating situation. Mike talked about this
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a lot, was the on off pattern of Jamar Gibbs,
but it just completely fell off after Week fourteen. I
ended up having four point four points in a half
point PPR in the game against Minnesota on Christmas Day,
and Jamiir Gibbs was right alongside Bijon Robinson and Jamar
Chase for guys that you were looking at maybe taking
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number one overall in your fantasy league, and so for
Jamiir Gibbs to come up with four point four if
you Rode Jamiir Gibbs in his hot streak, good for you,
but he likely cost you in that championship game.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
And the most frustrating part is that it was a
must win game for the Lions. So if you had
started him, and well, obviously you started him, but if
you'd started him with the hope that he was gonna
come in with a big performance, like you had ever
reason to think so, but it was it was not
to be.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
Yeah, I was expecting a lot more from the can
against Tampa in that game, just because we know that
Tampa's d has been susceptible and they were to a
couple of Quinn Yours passes. But you know, a Chan
ended up with eleven point two outscored by the likes
of Devin Singletary, RJ Harvey, Brice Hall even breaking off
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a big run for your New York Jets, and Bill
Jacory Krossky merrit with the big game on Christmas Day
for the Commanders, even in defeat, got you twenty two
and a half points. Let's look at the some of
the running backs that maybe didn't serve you too well,
the wide receiver position as well. When we look at
week seventeen of the names of players that you hoped
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or that maybe you were riding, but ultimately just didn't
show up when you needed them the most. I'll tell
you what I held on to to Mike Evans for
a while. I had George Pickens for a while and
nice games Evans getting into the end zone. But now
you kind of I wonder where are we at with
the yardage because looking ahead the next season, he comes
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out after the injury, he has one hundred and thirty
yard game on a Thursday night against the Falcons. I
think it was against the Falcons, but on Thursday night
football ends up having one hundred and thirty yards in
that contest. That's right because Raheem Moore stared into the
camera after it, but then just ends up becoming a
red zone threat. Only has about thirty yards receiving in
the game. So Mike Evans a little bit of a
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disappointment despite coming back from that injury. George Pickens, for
as great as he was with when Ceedee Lamb was
out still at his moments, just didn't have his moment
in Week seventeen. And Jackson Smith and Jigba, who was
so key and so important at so many spots throughout
the season, just seven point two in the game against
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Carolina this past weekend. So JSN probably didn't live up
to the expectations that you would you would have hoped
when you were playing your fantasy or championship game.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
And as a JSN owner, I have been sweating a
little bit and kind of wondering whether something like this
has been coming, because I think it was even last
week where he went most of the game and it
was pretty underwhelming, and it wasn't until like the very
end where he finally caught a touchdown from Donald I
think this was last week and correct me if I'm wrong, Dan,
but he ended up finally like salvaging his game there.
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And it's just like when you and I and it
had been a few a few weeks straight of that,
and when you start to see that, you have a
few questions about about when a dud is coming. And
it happened to come in the championship week here, and
that's unfortunate.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
Here's here's something with JSN that's that's interesting because this
has kind of been the rumbling. So with JASN, we've
seen earlier on in the season fifty three yard reception,
forty five yard reception, looking at a sixty one, looking
at a sixty three. Since he had that big game
against Tennessee, the biggest play that he's had is a
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thirty nine yarder against the Colts, and that was big
to say the Seahawks up for a win. But those
big plays downfield haven't been there for the Seahawks and
haven't been there for JSN even more.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
That is the sticks type of guy, by the way,
that could.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
Play into their success in the playoffs, even if they
are able to get the number one seed. The offense,
we know Sam Darnold's an issue, and we know the
running games an issue, but even some of the big
plays from JSN that bailed them out earlier in the
season just weren't there. But Jaysn, for as great as
he was throughout the season, probably didn't help you as
much in the postseason as you would have hoped. So
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those are just a couple of the names that I
thought popped up in terms of not winning you your
fantasy league. You know, the tight end position rarely has
an impact ian as we look at how things play
out in a championship game. Coast and Loveland ended up
being your top tight end for Week seventeen, but the
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Niners not having Kittle, Trey McBride was able to, you know,
salvage his day with some late scoring against the Cincinnati Bengals.
But the tight end position, yeah, if you had someone
like Kittle unfortunately didn't cash in. Maybe you had Coastin
Loveland on your bench and were able to cash in,
or you took Jake Tong just because Kittle was on
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the bench. He may have come through for you. But
that was just a glance at the tight end position.
Aronde Gatsten had a lot of opportunities for the Chargers
after he peaked in the middle of the season and
in that game against the Texans that I was at
on Saturday. In fact, the interception that the isis l
Shire had against Justin Herbert off of Gatston's hands was
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right in front of us, so he had a pretty
good look at that. But the tight end position probably
didn't win or lose you a game in the championship weekend.
But overall, like, oh go ahead, I'm.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
Sorry, No, I was just gonna say, I mean, I
like Tyler Warren is someone who sticks out because he's
been He obviously started the year so hot, and he
was an offense of Rookie of the Year candidate, and
I'm pretty sure I even said at one point on
the pod like he might be the best tight end
in the league at this point, but like it might
have been the week that I said that that he
actually started falling off. So I'm sorry Tyler to do
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that to you, but but yeah, I mean this week
was another not a dud for him. He had nine
point three points in PPR leagues here, but if you
were in a non PPR league, if for you know,
I know, we like to go by judge by a
half PPR pod here. Not a great week for Tyler Warren,
which I think is also ironic because the flat that
the Bears took for taking Colston Loveland ahead of him
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in the NFL draft, because Warren had been the consensus
tight end one and it was like they took Loveland
and it was like what are they doing? And now
in a big week for fantasy purposes, Loveland was the
one who came up big and was the tight end
one on the week, and Warren was pretty underwhelming this week.
Not saying I who I would rather have long term,
but at least for fantasy purposes. It's kind of an
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interesting little tidbit there.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
Well, I do want to correct myself because as I
was reading it, something was wrong with what I was saying,
because I'm like, I thought Trey McBride had a better game.
My scoring thing reset to the standard scoring. So the
halfpoint PPR loved in was second McBride first with the
ten receptions that he had against Cincinnati. But yeah, yeah,
it doesn't necessarily change the conversation at all. But I
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do think that the theme is is we had some
of the biggest names, you know, the in fantasy football
come through for you in some of the biggest ways,
you know, specifically with a guy like Derrick Henry and
specifically with a guy like Bjohn Robinson. And the great
thing about for those that had Bejon Robinson was it
was the Monday night game. It wasn't just a Sunday
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one o'clock Eastern time kickoff. You were maybe going into
your game saying like, Okay, I just need nineteen points
from Bijon and I win it, and then he rips
off a ninety three yard touchdown run and that's how
fantasy memories are made.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
It kind of shows just with running backs in general, Like,
I feel like the position we kind of went into
a little bit of a funk there for a few
years where it felt like the running back kind of
not for fantasy purposes, but just in general in the
sport of football, it felt like the position was being
a little bit devalued. But when you look at guys
like last year Saquon being a borderline MVP candidate and
then Bijon coming and just absolutely exploding on primetime. Obviously
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you said the ninety three yard run, it shows that
there's actually real, real value in these guys, and it
might be worth taking a look at guys like Jeremiah
Love really really early in the NFL draft come April,
just because guys like this, guys who were like transcendent
talents at the position, they can really really swing the
game for an NFL team.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
I'll be looking when we do our top sixty draft.
We'll have to see who grabs Jeremiah Love first. Ian
was the one who jumped in on the Omari and
Hampton now Hampton injury prone this year. But there were
two rookies taken in our top sixty last year. It
was Genti and it was Hampton. We'll see if love
or anybody else breaks through that coming up later on
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in February. It's actually a really good opportunity. And to
give a reminder to people, there's just two episodes this week.
With the New Year's holiday and no games going on
on Thursday, we've just got the Saturday Sunday slate. We
can get all we need to get done in our
Friday episode, our rankings episode. Mich will be back for that,
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but there was no midweek episode, and then we'll be
breaking down and going down to our one time a
week episodes throughout the NFL playoffs, so we'll be doing
that once he regular season wraps up. We'll take you
all the way through the Super Bowl and even a
couple of weeks past that to give you some stuff
to look ahead to in twenty twenty six. Speaking of
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looking ahead, we're gonna wrap this up with a look
at our report cards, plus a couple of waiver wire
picks to pick up for Week eighteen if you want
to stay interested in fantasy. He's Ian Ronnie, I'm Dan Byer.
That's next here on. I want your flex All right,
let's do report card time. I'll tell you what Mike Harmon.
Christian McCaffrey was his number one running back. Cash is in,
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Chase Brown was his number two running back, cash is in.
Derreck Henry was his number four running back. Cash is in.
Bijon Robinson his number five running back cash is in. Now.
It may not have all been in that order, but
a very very strong output for Mike Harmon. In the
running back report card portion of this program, the wide
receivers Jamar Chase Chris o'lav were top five plays for him.
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A couple of Ninjas had Tyler Shook in there as
a play had Romandre Stevenson as well, who ended up
cashing in for the New England Patriots in their contest
against Ian's New York Jets. So that was a hit.
Caleb Williams of the Bears was a hot play for
Mike Harmon and one of the cold sores that he had.
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Sam Donald again just us talking about the Seahawks struggles.
Donald was a cold play, as was Baker Mayfield, as
was Bucky Irving. Neither did much against the Dolphins in
their contest in South Florida earlier this week. Karen Williams
ended up being kept in check by the Falcons d
on Monday Night. That was on the Cold source list.
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Nico Collins kept in check by the Chargers defense. He
was also on the Cold source list. So, Mike Carmon
doing some good work in week seventeen when you needed
the most. How did your streaming defenses shape out? Ian
for Week seventeen.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
Yeah, it's almost like Mike knows what the heck he's
talking about.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
Right, Yeah, right, how about that?
Speaker 3 (31:26):
But streaming defenses good week for us. We'll start with
the Saints. They got you twelve fantasy points if you
listened to me and went ahead and started them. Twenty
six points allowed on the day. They had a fumble
recovery touchdown, thank you Chase Young, and then four sacks
as well. So twelve fantasy points for the Saints. That
was a pretty strong week from them. And then the
New York Giants, they were huge play one of the
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best defenses on the week. Nineteen fantasy points they got you,
only allowed ten points, They had two interceptions, one of
which was a pick six, and they also sacked four times.
So'sful streaming defense week.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
In Championship Week, survivor I said I was going opposite
on me and I'm like, hey, I like to pick
home teams when it comes to Survivor. I was wrong
about the Saints being a six win team, because they
are now officially a six win team. Congratulation. I said,
if you wanted to sign on someone and Survivor in
that game, maybe Sad with the Titans, that was a
bad pick. Packers were a question mark just because of
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Jordan love status, and then Milik Willis ends up getting
hurt in that contest, so they lose to the Ravens,
so that was a lost cause. I also threw out
the Raiders for a Survivor zero to three. But you
don't need to take my advice in week seventeen of
Survivor if you've made it this far, because you've done
pretty well. I checked out my Survivor pool that I
lasted through fourteen weeks ian they're about fifteen hundred entries
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still left or that started in the pool, and there
were I believe eleven excuse me, twelve entries still alive. Wow,
through seventeen weeks, and a lot of people have the
Jaguars to be able to to be able to pick
in week eighteen, Jacksonville should have something to play for
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they're playing the Titans that could end up being a pick.
So yeah, there's there's interesting to see on how it,
you know, shakes out. But in the Circa Survivor contest,
there's I believe five and excuse me, I counted wrong,
nine entries still alive for the the big Circa Survivor
(33:28):
pool out of the thousands upon thousands that they get
it they had excuse me, let me just take a look.
Here as I look at it, each entry in the
Circa contest right now, the nine that are left implied
value two point eight million dollars. Oh yeah, there.
Speaker 3 (33:49):
Do you know how involved though, like a thousands and
thousands of people were in there, you know, it's yes,
everyone puts tons of effort into those. It's like to
be one of a few remaining.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
And the Circa, the Circa one also has the they
have double pick weeks. So then this one that I'm in,
I think one of the reasons why we have twelve
guys still alive is because there weren't double pick weeks.
Like you weren't picking the A team on the Christmas
Day games, you weren't doing that on the Thanksgiving Day
and then having to make a pick later on that week.
That does weed out the field pretty quickly when you
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have like those double pick weeks. So that actually may
be a bit of advice for those that are running
or entering that maybe those sort of pools are you'll
have a better chance, because I do think if you're
just making one pick every week, it's easier to navigate.
I mean, there's then only eighteen teams to choose from,
as opposed to twenty two to twenty three, twenty four.
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So that's why you got the circle with the number
that they've got down to about nine, and the smaller
pool that I in still has twelve in. But the
circa gives you the multiple pick weeks throughout the season.
Speaking of picks, if your season is over and you
want to play daily fantasy, or maybe you are still
playing in week eighteen, there are some pickups to look at.
You always have to look at who's motivated to play,
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who's not motivated to play, and who's dealing with injuries
who's not dealing with injuries. You can also find some
value in some teams that just don't have any interest
in playing in the playoffs anymore. How about Malik Davis
running back for the Cowboys. So with the Javonte Williams
being banged up in that game against the Commanders, Davis
ends up taking over. He could be a pickup for you.
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Emanuel Wilson has been a name. With Josh Jacobs being out,
Ruth green Bay kind of locked into that seven spot
in the NFC. I'd be surprised if you saw Josh
Jacobs play. Audric Estime has obviously made a name for
himself a big week for the Saints in Week seventeen.
He could be a pickup as well. And Ray Davis
of the Bills. We know the Bills of James Cook,
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we know they have Ty Johnson, but if the Bills
are going to rest their starters coming up against the
Jets in Week eighteen, Ray Davis could be a name
that you could target. As for the wide receivers, I
feel like Mike has talked about a guy like Parker
Washington before Luther Burden was dinged up at the end
of that forty nine Ers game for the Bears. But
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you also have to think that the Bears have bigger
fish to fry in terms of how things play out.
So if there is something worried about Luther Burden if
you can grab him, it could be a possibility. But
with the number one seed going to either the forty
nine Ers or the Seahawks, the Bears are kind of
locked into their spot, so they may not be as
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motivated as you would now. Granted, the Lions are coming
to town. Ben Johnson may have a bit of revenge,
but there could be an opportunity and in a game
that really means a lot for the NFC South Saturday Night.
How about Jalen McMillan for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Maybe
he could get something done. Of course, he didn't join
the team until past the midway point of the season
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coming back from that neck injury, so he could be
an option for the waiver wire in Week eighteen. That
is going to do it for this podcast, and it
almost does it for the NFL regular season. Any parting
thoughts Ian Roddy.
Speaker 3 (37:08):
Yeah, just just a couple more waiver wire guys. I
don't know if you mentioned Jalen Kocher there. He sticks
out to me as well as Tis wise. Bryce Young
seems to look his way very touchdown dependent, but at
this point the season, that's kind of all we're looking
for and then Tyler Lockett as well, just trying to
revive his connection with Gino Smith from Seattle. He had
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that touchdown this week. Obviously it wasn't a great fantasy
week for him, but just in general, they're playing a
Chiefs team that's completely spiraling right now. So if you're
looking for just a desperate dart throw, that's something I
would maybe look at as well.
Speaker 1 (37:40):
I would also think that Pete Carroll would want to
win this game. She had to save his but the
front point, yeah, but the front office, he's like, no, yeah, no,
doing all round the sec buddy. I know knocking off
the Chiefs would be fun, but we don't care about
this Chiefs team. Don't mess the up eighty percent chance
(38:01):
that the Raiders secure the first overall pick. I don't
know if it would be Mendoza. I'm not sure on
where they would go, but you don't want to risk it.
We've seen that happen in Week eighteen before. But yeah,
it'll be interesting to see, you know, with brock powers
down Air, an opportunity for at the tight end position
(38:23):
could be someone to pick up as well. To be
honest with you, Ian, I hate Week eighteen. Yeah, it's
just as like without I mean, granted, the Seahawks have
a huge game, so I'm going to be locked in,
but when it comes to the fantasy purposes, the league
should be done. And so it has such a different feel. Yeah,
when you're watching games and you're seeing big plays and
(38:43):
you're like, oh, that doesn't count for anything. It's a
very weird feeling that I think a lot of us
can relate to.
Speaker 3 (38:49):
I know, and I don't want to talk down on
fantasy commissioners in leagues who are still going right now
in week eighteen, but just consider in the future finishing
it up after Week seventeen, because there's so many starters
being rested, and it's just so inconsistent, inconsistent across the
league when it comes to to like how much effort
these guys are even going to be putting in Because
(39:10):
a lot of these guys they know they're in the
playoffs already, they're gonna be sitting, They're not gonna be
trying as hard. It's just it's just ruins ruins fantasy
for me. But I digress.
Speaker 1 (39:20):
I'll say this. When the DeMar Hamlin situation happened a
couple of years ago, there's so much controversy on how
you would end because that was a Week seventeen game.
What we decided I was in the championship game against
a team, and he and I decided because I had
I think I had Josh Allen and T Higgins, and
(39:41):
he had maybe like Joe Burrow and Jamar Chase or something,
but we had significant guys in that game. We decided,
we agreed, and we said, this is what we're going
to do. Because the game was canceled, We're going to
take what they did in Week eighteen because the game
still meant something for both teams. And so that was
the only time that I can remember watching a Week
(40:04):
eighteen game and actually having an outcome matter. Now I
know other leagues that were just like, sorry, game canceled, final,
you don't get it, And I felt that that was
just such an awful way to end the season. So
there was that one instance a couple of years back
where games actually did matter for our longtime league. In
Week eighteen, I ended up.
Speaker 3 (40:25):
Losing very extenuating circumstances.
Speaker 1 (40:28):
Though, yes, absolutely, but it was just weird watching a
Week eighteen in game and actually having a game matter
in that scenario.
Speaker 3 (40:38):
Yeah, I feel like a fever trail.
Speaker 1 (40:39):
I'm sure yes, So well, anyway, I hope you can
download the podcast again and we'll be back with one
episode later on this week, and then after the regular season,
we'll be rolling out one episode per week all the
way through mid February. So for Ian Roddy, my Carmin
will be back on Friday. I'm Dan, thanks so much
(41:01):
for hanging out and tuning in this or is I
want your flex m mm hmm
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