January 15, 2025 • 48 mins
After an unforgettable meeting in Spain on tour with Karol G, we knew we had crossed paths with someone who is truly special. In this episode, we sit down with the one and only Ella Bric—a singer, songwriter, trumpet virtuoso, and groundbreaking producer who is reshaping the Latin American music scene. Ella made history as the first woman ever to win the Latin Grammy for Producer of the Year, a monumental achievement that cements her place as a trailblazer in the industry.
Ella shares her groundbreaking journey, reflecting on her lifelong love of music, the art of producing, and the lessons learned from spending over two years nonstop on the road. We laugh about emotional moments (yes, we cry at America’s Got Talent auditions, and Ella isn’t letting us live it down), but we also explore the heart of her artistry. From her ability to blend jazz, soul, and traditional Latin American sounds to her upcoming album on immigration and cultural heritage, Ella Bric’s work is a testament to innovation and storytelling.
Oh, and did we mention her trumpet joins the conversation? It sounds absolutely stellar in space.
Ella is more than a musician—she’s a leader, a poet, and a force of nature whose impact will inspire generations to come. Buckle up for an unforgettable ride with one of the most inspiring voices in music today!
Featuring: Linda Briceño (Ella Bric), Emily Estefan, Gemeny Hernandez,
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
We have a light detector test.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
No, I love it on.
Speaker 3 (00:04):
My dad just found me when I was four in
his room grabbing the trumpet and trying to imitate the
Mambo number five because we used.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
To watch them.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
I love that.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
My dad was like, she's gonna play trumpets.
Speaker 4 (00:17):
Oh, this is what happens when a songwriter speaks. It
sounds like music and they're just words.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
This whole episode is going to be quotes. Yeah, yeah,
you know, where's the water?
Speaker 3 (00:26):
I remember when I won the Grammy in the twenty
eighteen it was a nymer. Touring for long periods can
teach you a lot about your own character. I'm getting
(00:51):
too deep.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Hello, so we get deep deep. It's coming to my
black hole day.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Yeah for.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
Earthlinks, astronauts, space dust collectors, Welcome back to yet another
voyage aboard the mothership, the Motorship. It is season three
of In Our Own World, and today we're landing on
a planet of pure talent.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
That's right.
Speaker 5 (01:26):
We have an extra special guest joining us in the
intergalactic lounge. A musical force, truly, a force felt it
in my chest, the first woman to win the Latin
Grammy for Producer of the Year.
Speaker 6 (01:38):
Mitch bow down.
Speaker 5 (01:39):
Okay, fusion master, trumpet, virtuoso composer of vocalist, and.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Fearless advocate for women in the arts. You've heard her.
Speaker 5 (01:46):
Magic all over the world, but today she's stepping off
the stage and.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
We are blessed to have her here with us.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
We're talking passion, creativity, storytelling, and what it means to
chart your own course in an industry full of playback
and shortcuts.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
So whether you're tuning in from Earth, Mars, or somewhere
else in the universe, strap in, because this is going
to be one for the books, and we are here
with the one and only Eland. Welcome.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Hi, I'm so excited to be here. Welcome, Thank you.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
We're so happy to have you here.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Really, yes, I'm very glit.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Why really, why question that?
Speaker 3 (02:30):
It's amazing being here. It's like I feel like I'm
dreaming or something. This is crazy.
Speaker 5 (02:35):
That's what happens when you go to space. You get
a little floaty. Speaking of that's how we felt when
we met you for the first time, which before we
get into all the drama, because we have a light
detective test now, I.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
Love it for those of you out there that want
to know how we met Ella. It was an amazing.
Speaker 5 (02:51):
Story because on the first episode of this season we
talked about our time with Carol g.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
And Ella was the mascot of that experience.
Speaker 4 (02:59):
I think we even talked about her and shout her
out on that episode. So if you listen to season
one of this episode, you'll hear it exactly. But now
she's finally here, sitting in our spaceship with us.
Speaker 5 (03:09):
Yeah, and seeing you in that environment, first of all,
such a big pop artist. You know, we're having like
actual band rehearsals, and to see you vouching for everybody,
taking care of everybody, being the.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Badass that you are.
Speaker 5 (03:22):
We met you as an amazing band leader, musical director,
liaison between the new Girls, and you know y'all that
had been doing it for so long, and you did
it with so much class and effortlessness that it made
us instantly fall in love with you. Then we found
out all this other amazing shit about you. That just
was the cherry on top and the sprinkles of the
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beauty of who you are as a person. So my
first question for you is who is Elabrick.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
Elbritica is the daughter of flor Maria and Andre and
my dad is a drummer Venezuela obsessed with jazz. My
mom is not a musician, but she likes one audil.
So while my dad was playing drums in the home,
she was like frying plantains and stuff like that, and
then the house was like all noise and stuff. So
(04:14):
that's how I came into the picture. My I'm known
as Lena Rissanea as my my legal name.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Why did you choose to change it?
Speaker 3 (04:25):
I choose to change it because, very deep in my heart,
I feel like I wanted to create this persona so
I can do cool things under her. And also because
I was such a fan of Ella Fitzgerald, so I
wanted to be cool enough as her, and I decided
to call myself Ella. That's that's who Ela is. She's
a dreamer, someone that loves life, and someone very sensitive
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as well and funny and you know.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
And funny.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
Well, so you know, we might know, but there are
people out there in the world who might hear the
term music producer and ask themselves what does that mean?
Speaker 1 (05:12):
What does a music producer do? How would you explain that?
Speaker 3 (05:15):
Well, music producer has different meanings throughout the years. In
the past, music producers used to do everything, like you know,
create albums, but also like choose the stylists everything and
be the person like in charge of the whole production
and the vision for an artist.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
But nowadays it has changed.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
So I'm going to tell you what kind of producer
I feel I am, and I feel like I feel
like music production is just being able to translate a
message and have a connection with an artist, and being
able to make that message available and relevant for the
artists and self, but also to do it in a
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way that is suggestible as well, or to make it
relevant for the people for whatever is happening in the world.
I feel like, as Nina Simon said, the role of
the artist somehow is being able to reflect the times
that we're living in.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
So I feel like the producer is the one who
is in the back trying to help the artists find
the voice and share it.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
With the world.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
I love a president for real.
Speaker 5 (06:23):
Yeah, And just to touch upon what you said when
I hear the term producer, because I'm blessed enough to
grow up in a world where it was around old
school music production, I feel like nowadays people label producers
as like beat makers or things like that. People who
are able to, you know, either create or record their
own music. And there's an immense amazing value to that.
(06:46):
But the old school term of producer needs to be
brought back into what music is.
Speaker 6 (06:52):
To get the feeling.
Speaker 5 (06:53):
Of a band, a creative direction, a certain sound.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Yeah, the songs.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
The song.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
To me, the song is the most important step for
a producer to whether work with an artist or to
see what's going to be the sustainability of a project. Right,
And I've learned this from from the best your that
is one of them. I feel like the most important
thing is if you if the song is good. You know,
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you can create different scenarios for a song. And one
thing that I like about a good song is like
it can.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
It can sing rock, whatever gen Yeah.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
Oh I like that that you can like grab any
song and sing it in a different genre and it
still works. Yes, And it's a lot of fun. Actually,
it's like a fun little yeah, a little pastime.
Speaker 5 (07:44):
So would you say the most important person in a
room in a session as a songwriter?
Speaker 2 (07:50):
No, I feel like everybody is important, yeah, right, they
play their own Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
I feel like depending on the projects, like I like
to divide always the auctions in three stages, the pre production,
the recording and everything, and the post production. I feel
like the pre production it comes always holding hands with songwriters.
Some some songwriters don't like songwriting with other people. Some
some other people had like a more lonely like process.
(08:18):
But I like the idea of collaborating with other writers
and try to get to one song and for the
same purpose right and then after that. I like when
whenever the song is finished in Polish, I'd like to
get with the artists and trying to dream with the
musicians that we want to use and try to develop
(08:38):
the sound. It's my I feel that that's my biggest passion.
I don't consider myself like a beat maker. I'm actually
terrible at it. I'm very more mostly like an old
school person. I like the idea of getting in the
studio or just getting a friend who I'm passionate about
his sound and the guitar, and then get his sound,
you know, imprinted in a track and kind of like
(08:58):
enjoying that as as used to be. That's how I
learned how to record, by watching my dad, you know,
recording with different musicians, and that's how I kind of
like started producing.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
You always say all you need is a guitar, Yes,
a good one.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
I feel like you've carved out a space for live
musicianship in a world that's increasingly digital.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Yes.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
What do you think that live music reveals about humanity
that maybe a machine.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Could never That's a great question.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
I feel like I like the idea of working alongside
with machines. I feel like there are alleys, but there
comes a time where people, you know, I feel like
music is it was it meant to, you know, elevate
your spirit. And when we talk about spirit, when we
(09:51):
talk about emotions, there are a lot of things that
are not tangible. There are a lot of things that
are not being able to touch in that it's only
the thing that the human mind can understand that you know,
other species or they're able to feel her into instinct.
But as human beings, we were given this amazing brain
that is able to feel emotions and to have the gift.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Of words and voice. Right, I'm getting too deep.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Hello, we get deep deep, Come into my black hole.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
Bit. Yeah, yeah, that's that's that's what.
Speaker 6 (10:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
I don't know if that answered your question.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
I think it's Yeah.
Speaker 5 (10:35):
No, first of all, last night she was literally laughing
because Gem and I were crying at an America's Got
Talent video of super talented people.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
There's nothing wrong with that. Actually, what are you so?
It's so funny in our tears? She delighted. She delighted
in that.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
No.
Speaker 5 (10:54):
Yeah, I want to crack your brain open and see
what the hell is going on in there, because speaking
of you really shocking me with time we've spent together,
one of the things that was impressive to me about
some of the conversations that we've had is you've talked
about cultural appropriation.
Speaker 6 (11:09):
And music and you know, whatever you want.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
We're in space.
Speaker 5 (11:23):
But by the way, you don't have to answer, girl,
We're still gonna post it in air your tea. No,
you know some friend, Okay, you have. You've played a
myriad of genres of music, and I would consider you're
you as somebody that's very well studied, who has done
(11:43):
the due diligence of understanding who musicians today are because
of the people that have.
Speaker 6 (11:48):
Come before us.
Speaker 5 (11:49):
As a result, I've learned by being around you that
you feel a duty correct me if I'm wrong to
do certain rhythms, certain countries, certain places, just tell me
how you feel about that, Like, is that something that
you struggle with in your own music even from where
you're from, because a lot of the music that I've
(12:09):
heard you do is a fusion of everything.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
Yes, that's a wonderful question. I it goes back to
the way I was raised. And it's funny because I
was raised in a very small town named San Antonio
Los Altos, which was forty minutes from Karakasa.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
I'm not even from the capitol.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
And I grew up not knowing what my identity as
a Venezuelan was. Uh, and my dad was he did
an amazing research and he kind of like incorporated like
Afro a Venezuelan rhythms in the drums, which is a
North American instrument.
Speaker 5 (12:44):
Right.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
But then I was, you know, I grew up.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
With and singing and La Fitzgerald, you know, and sync.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
And play names. Yeah, you know. And and when I
moved to New.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
York City, I applied to school because I needed excuse
to leave the country.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
I needed the visa, but I wanted to be a
pop star.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
And then I was like, Okay, I need the visa,
so I'm.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Gonna do this.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
I'm gonna get into the kind of pop start did
you want to be?
Speaker 2 (13:13):
I don't know, I didn't you didn't know?
Speaker 1 (13:15):
What that matter? Who did you like?
Speaker 6 (13:16):
A mind?
Speaker 2 (13:16):
I wanted to be no longer, No.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Not no longer. Curiously, who did you want to be? What? What?
Pop star? Where you were?
Speaker 3 (13:25):
Like?
Speaker 1 (13:25):
Damn, that's exactly what I want to be doing.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
I don't know. I feel like I wanted to be
a mix.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
Of Beyord with Experience Folding with Justin Timberlake.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
She says, Justin timber is the only pop there. You know,
you're sitting at sea with a jazzer pop star? Do
you want to be? I don't know, fling. I love
that though, what a convo I can say it? I know?
Speaker 2 (13:52):
I know?
Speaker 1 (13:52):
Let me style you York styling? Are you kidding?
Speaker 2 (13:57):
Crazy?
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Pure place? But it's like intergalactic play that I love that.
Speaker 5 (14:02):
And now that we know that she's homies with the Robots,
I never know what we're gonna get.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
Yeah, I'm homies with the robots. They're good friends.
Speaker 5 (14:10):
Yeah, okay, okay, So you're so old school, right, And
we've had musicians on the Scouts that we really love
and respect, and we've asked this question a few times.
Go listen to the rest of our episodes.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
Would you.
Speaker 5 (14:26):
Ella Fitzgerald rises from the Dead or somebody that you
really respect, And they say, will you do this song
with me? But it's a trash song? And you just
said the importance of song. If it's a good song,
are you gonna do it? If it's trash?
Speaker 2 (14:40):
Of course, of course?
Speaker 3 (14:41):
How why I feel like if it's I love Fitzgerald,
she could make anything great. And I feel like one
of the things that I love about improvisation is that
you can grab any melody, any any lyric you know,
and just give it your own me need to make
it different, right, Yeah, I will definitely say yes, But
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if it's misogynistic.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
Or violent or anything like that, I won't.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
We have standards here, Yeah, yeah, like that no violence
for women.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
I like that. I like that obviously.
Speaker 4 (15:29):
The three of us, and you two especially, I think
we're appreciators of jazz.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
Here we go. How how do you see the future
of jazz?
Speaker 3 (15:44):
Well, I don't consider myself a jazz musician. I have
I'm a good imitator, and I have so much respect
for the people who does jazz. I feel like the
future in jazz it looks bright to me. I can
rest confidently knowing that there's still kids showing up to
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learn the genre that exists places like Jasaline Con Center,
where guys like Winter Marsalis fights to keep the traditional
life to make sure like in the schools, it's being teached,
it's being taught about jazz and democracy, the Great Migration,
the Civil rights movement, which is a historical part of
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what jazz and why it is just so relevant. Jazz
is the music of America, and I feel like Kuanos
and Latin American people also has a party in that
contribution to jazz because if you go back to yeah,
like if you go back, you know, it was very
(16:47):
easy for people to take a ferry from Kua to
New Orleans, and jazz is just a mix in diversity
of everything mixed together. And I feel like that's what
America is looking like in the.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
Future, a mix of diverse flavors.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
And I feel like you keep growing and growing and
everybody has been able to make and create their own
jazz from a from an honest placed love that.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
Yeah on jazz, you heard that jazz is not dead.
Speaker 4 (17:16):
This is what happens when a songwriter speaks it sounds
like music and they're just words.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
Damn, this whole episode is going to be quotes. I'm
just here, like looking at these women eating popcorn. I
am eating popcorn. I have a good view. What can
I say?
Speaker 5 (17:34):
Before we talked about this question, you brought up something
which is important. You know whoa if it's not misogynistic.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
Right, Let's be real.
Speaker 5 (17:40):
We're in a male dominated industry, and to be honest,
I was talking to gem this is me being real
and I know that trumpet is not all you do.
It's a color of what you do, which happens to
me too. Everybody's like, what instrument do you play? I'm like,
I don't, right, But what's my answer to your point?
Speaker 1 (17:58):
You're like, I respect jazz too much.
Speaker 5 (18:00):
I respect instrumentalists too much to say, oh, I play this,
I play that, I play a little bit of everything,
but I haven't.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
A little She said, it's so good.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
I see you see But she's like the Lulu city
over there.
Speaker 5 (18:14):
But that's what makes me real, Like it's okay. What
people respond to in my playing is a combination of experience, dynamics, performance,
and talent, the least of which some of the time
for me, I know that if I put in the
hours to continue to study my rudiments, my practice the
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way I did, like somebody like Nick Grayson Ni Krutman
shout out, you know, I'm much oll.
Speaker 6 (18:38):
Of you, man.
Speaker 5 (18:39):
Like they're consistently evolving in their specific talent with their instrument.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
I know that that's not me.
Speaker 5 (18:46):
I might get better little by little in my instrument,
and I may be impressive to some people, but I
know that I'm not a master of that craft.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
And that's okay, jack of all trades, master of none,
but better than being a master of one, and better
than being a master bab Anyway.
Speaker 5 (19:00):
The point is that I back to my question. We're
in a male dominated industry. I played drums, you a
lot of the time. Played trumpet I can't name, and
I'm really ashamed to say this one like famous female
trumpet player. Have you encountered difficulties or like trials and
turbulations playing trumpet or just being a female songwriter females?
Speaker 1 (19:26):
Yeah, in that award. Literally, I mean you're like this
from carrying.
Speaker 6 (19:31):
Us on it.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
Please answer all five questions above.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
Yeah, they're actually when I grew up. There was very
few figures that I could look up. My dad just
found me when I was four in his room, grabbing
the trumpet and trying to imitate the Mambo number five
because we used.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
To watch them. I love that, and my dad was like,
she's just gonna play trumpet. He decided he chose that
for me.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
But there were not many Venezuelans or Latin American trumpet players.
And then it became like a thing in Venezuela to
to you know. And there were also like another colleagues
that were playing trumpet for some reason, they just like
or give it up, or they would just start having
a family or whatever. But when I came to New
(20:23):
York City late in my twenties, I noticed that there
was like a there were a lot of female trumpet players,
especially in the jazz world. Also, Hilbertoosa I got to meet,
which is amazing, and she's very interested in Latin American music.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
She has recorded with.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
Isa del Gao, Hilberto a Meando. I learned that there
were a lot of female trumpet players, It's just that
not everybody followed the path that I followed. I wanted
my music to be known. Some of the trumpet players
that I've known, they have gone more to a classical world.
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Alison Balison is a wonderful soloist. There there are so many,
so many different trumpet players, and the trumpet is just
like a universe, Like you can be a lead trumpet
and just dedicate to that. I can name Tanya Darabi,
which used to be the lead player of the Village Banguard.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
Orchestra in New York City.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
Now she teaches at the University of North Texas, And
there are so many, so many, it's just like depending
on the path and the visibility. Right now, there's a
new generation of new trumpet players that are crazy.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
They also produce.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
They also seeing experiences partly, and had a trumpet player
that also sings.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
And she has her own music.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
So it's kind of like an underworld that is being known.
But I do recognize that when I grow up, there
were many and.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
I've lived many lives.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
You have you have, You've been a part of some
of the world's largest stages and some of the most incredible,
but I'm sure also nerve wracking performances, live performances. What
would you tell somebody who is stepping on to a
stage for the first time, but is battling those those nerves.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
I feel like the nerves are the reminder that we
need something above in order to do what we do,
and it's weird and it's contrast is like a contradiction
because also you need your ego as well exactly, and
you need the delusion, you need all of that. But
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I feel like the nerves are kind of like it's
like when you work out in your sword the next day.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
The same is when when.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
When you're you know your nervous before coming and if
you if it gets too overwhelming, I will recommend you
to have a routine.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
People have different routines.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
Yeah, some people like to meditate, some people like to
have mminems or sour patch.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
Okay, I like.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
Yeah, because the sour patch.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
They had this spicy thing that it kind of like
breaks the panic attacks.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
What oh my god, Yeah, you're kidding me.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
No, I'm not kidding.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
There you go.
Speaker 4 (23:24):
Yeah, there's like an actual reason shove a bag sour patch.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
You know when people have like panic attacks and tough
like that.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
People are being told like getting a cold shower and
have something that it can give you a chalk like
if you eat sour patch. While having a panic attack
or before going on stage. It will definitely tell your brain. Okay,
let's go.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
Pro tips ladies.
Speaker 4 (23:48):
Okay, So kind of in the same vein as as
a live show. You've done something that Emily has done
or been a part of that I've never been a
part of. And you've gone on a long tour. You
have been a touring musician where you're out of your
house for I don't know how long. What's the longest
(24:09):
that you've been two years and a half, two years
and a half. Yeah, Can you talk a little bit
about the impact that a tour life can have on
your life.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
We always have like these complaints with our parents of
things that they didn't do. One thing that I regret
that my dad did was like he was always out
while I was, you know, growing up.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
Wait, does grab the guitar? She can play, right?
Speaker 3 (24:40):
And I kind of like missed that time with my dad.
But he was always traveling and touring. So I kind
of like promised myself that I was not going to
be that, although that I don't have kids yet, but
I was like, I don't want to be a touring
musician for sure. And then I was so focused on
creating the album that I that I'm finishing now. And
then my manager got thin nosed with cancer and I
was like, okay, we're both freelancers. She cannot work. I
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need to get myself out there. And then while she
was on the treatment, I got this phone call from
a good friend from Venezuela. His name is Samuel Gardnica,
and he's like, hey, they're looking for a female trumpet
player for the musical of Gloria Stephan. Oh, I don't know,
and I'm like, okay, how is this tour?
Speaker 2 (25:26):
How does it work?
Speaker 3 (25:28):
I'm like, well, do you really want to do this?
It's like hard work, and I'm like, yeah, let's do it.
And then that was my first touring experience in a
long yeah. Setting up, I was used to travel, but
not for a year. Yeah, And this tour was so
particular because we were traveling at a bus. He was like,
(25:51):
very independent, he was very funny, I was sharing rooms.
But he taught me so much about touring for long
periods can teach you a lot of about your own
character and your own ability of interacting with others, right,
And the impact that these different experiences had is like,
depending on the production, you have to develop this skin.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
That it makes you decide.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
What you want in the future and what you don't want.
And I feel like these three different settings. First was
the musical with the Musical of Emilio and Gloria. After that,
I was in San Diego for another play, Destiny of Desire,
and then I was called to do a Carol g
So these three settings were very.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
Different from each other completely. But I never wanted to
be there.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
I never wanted to be It was more like a
survival mouth that kind of like pushed me to go there.
But I feel like it was just the universe like
get out there, I'm gonna show you some stuff, and
I and I learned a bunch. I feel like it
can have an impact on your mental health definitely if
you don't, you know, find ways.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
Of regulating and relate the change of.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
Oh, don't even get me started.
Speaker 5 (27:04):
No, no, not to spill tea, just like when you're
traveling like that. Yeah, it's really hard because I've had
a lot of people in my life that I know
that have consistently been on the road, and as a result,
the only.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
Relationships they have are on the road. And that's also
a bubble you know how that starts to feel.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
That's actually we call it the.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
Right Yeah, when you're starting people that you wouldn't even.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
You're like.
Speaker 4 (27:30):
They what so being that that was kind of like
an unexpected experience for you, what was the most unexpected part?
Speaker 3 (27:40):
The most unexpected part is the one that I hate
the most, which is flying.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
Oh I hate flying with my wow.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
Like being in the plane or like the time, it
takes everything, just.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
Everything about flying I hate.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
I mean, it's absolutely unnatural.
Speaker 4 (27:54):
I think it's a justifiable fear and why are we
in this big metal machine in the sky.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
And also has an impact on you physically.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
Our bodies are.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
Not developed for you to be altitude no no and
h and dryness no no no no, and no thank
you and in the bag my bag was joyed after
two years of doing.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
This on the long flight, Girl, this is this is
the truth.
Speaker 5 (28:20):
Listen, I'm a Nepo baby, but we'd be doing things
out here where we're back there in economy for ten hours.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
While we're doing the last time, I'm like, get the gurgle.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
Yeah, I know, I know.
Speaker 4 (28:30):
It's it's terrible, it's terrible, it sounds terrible. We get
to the point where you're like, I'm not doing that again.
Speaker 5 (28:36):
You know what here fucking Cyndi Laupper is at seventy
two with her as she's.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
Not an economy honey, No, she's on a bus. Okay,
but yeah, yeah, yeah, it isn't believe.
Speaker 5 (28:46):
It doesn't matter what stage in your life here. That's
that's the thing that for me, if we want to
come into this artistic.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
World just like all the other worlds that exists.
Speaker 5 (28:56):
I understand that sometimes it's not a choice. Sometimes you're
an artist and all of a sudden you're it pops off,
especially now.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
When we're living in the world of being viral and whatnot.
You know, but.
Speaker 5 (29:07):
If we want to share our music, like you said,
I wanted to do more. I wanted to share my music,
right My personal last question for you because I share
I feel like maybe some of these sentiments with you.
There's a part of the music creative art industry that's
not so fun, being in front of people events things
like that.
Speaker 6 (29:27):
How are you able to balance those two things?
Speaker 5 (29:30):
Is that something that comes easy to you or something
that you don't enjoy, because for me, it really depends.
Speaker 4 (29:37):
I feel like if em could perform for the world
and not do any other part of music business.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
She would, Yeah, and the writing part of it, of course.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
You know what.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
I remember when I got in New York, many people
told me in order to get jobs and works, you
had to put yourself out there and be in the
jam sessions and whatever.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
You got to hang out.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
And I'm like, Okay, I'm gonna try. And then I
realized I couldn't do it. It was hard for me.
It was expensive, it was cold. I was not emotionally
able to do that. And much most of the time
I kind of like force myself to do things so
that I didn't want to do because I thought that
it was the job, it.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
Was part of it.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
But with the years, I've learned that many people are
very in troubled like myself. I remember when I won
the Grammy in twenty eighteen. It was a nyma for me,
being in the week of the Latin Grammies.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
But I mean there was a part that I.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
Will enjoy, which is always share a meal with someone eating,
going to a place. Most of the people were going
to the parties, and I was like, can we go
to the circles so late? I don't know whatever, And
then I realized that, yeah, most of the time, it's
just I feel like you can be in any room
and that's not going to mean anything for you. But
if you know the rooms that you want to be
(30:56):
and the people that you want to that's when you
have to show up.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
You don't have to force.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
Yourself to be in the party and to do the networking,
because it actually doesn't work like that. I like being
exclusive with myself. I don't like given the the impression
that I'm like all.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
The time not accessible.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
I'm pretty much accessible, but i'd.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
Like accessible personally.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
Yes exactly, but I want to I want to be
able to also save my my my energy, my my love,
and and the things that I protect the most, which
is my art, the people that I actually connect with
and people that I know it cares about the art
that I do because it's a very superficial world out
there as well. Yes, and nobody likes rejection. It's hard
(31:41):
if we all have our insecurities and and although it's
part of the process as well and it helps you grow,
I feel like we don't have to force ourselves to
be in those spaces if you don't feel like I
feel like the opportunities, and that's how I've done most
of my life. I mean, if you want to be
(32:01):
a superstar, if you want to be someone like I
don't know.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
K, of course you have to do the job. She
has paid her dues in order to be wherever she is.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
But also depending on what do you want and where
do you want.
Speaker 5 (32:12):
To be, and separating the art from the career, that's
where I agree to disagree with you and disagree with myself.
Because social media all this new stuff, accessibility, connections, networking,
to me, that feels super false. So I've had to
find a way to be able to understand that's part
(32:33):
of my job and still make it real, if that
makes sense.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
Translate it.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
I think that you are a great in those set,
but when you want to be it, let's be real.
Speaker 5 (32:43):
Today, gem and I were in a place I was
an incredible networking opportunity and I felt like I just
wasn't amongst my people and I didn't feel comfortable, I
don't know, making connections that I didn't want to make
and it sucks and.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
I felt like ship after. But also I felt like.
Speaker 5 (33:02):
I honored my emotions and how I was feeling that
ultimately fuel my art and what really matters to me.
But it's hard, it's it's a especially now it's a yeah,
we'll be fine. Everybody jazz is alive, so.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
We're better than we thought. I have one last question
for you, and then we have a little game, because
then I'm going to make you put your mouth on that.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
Really the.
Speaker 4 (33:47):
Studio is burning down. It's burning down down to the ground.
You can only grab cancel one instrument to save.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
What instrument is it and why?
Speaker 2 (33:59):
Depending on what instruments are in the room.
Speaker 5 (34:01):
Everything, every instruments in the room, and there are no
other instruments in the world.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
This is your last chance to say, now.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
The last but musical instruments.
Speaker 5 (34:11):
Yes, what do you think? We're talking about sex toys?
Speaker 3 (34:17):
I was between the ads and I'm thinking or something.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
The music studio is burning down.
Speaker 4 (34:28):
Okay, the instrument is in the room. Yeah, you can
only leave with one instrument. Don't worry about size or weight.
You don't be practical about this. You basically have the
opportunity to say one's Sophie's choice for you.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
The guitar. For sure.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
I knew she was gonna say why why?
Speaker 3 (34:47):
Because I can write songs with it? It's comfortable, it's
not heavy, although that.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
If heavy wasn't a factor, would that still be your answer.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
I'm concerned about the strings, though.
Speaker 1 (34:58):
I don't know the practical like I take the piano.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
Can you take the piano?
Speaker 1 (35:03):
Yes, she said, don't worry about.
Speaker 5 (35:04):
Don't worry about I will do the guitar for sure.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
Okay, even if you could take the piano, you do
the guitar.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
Not the trumpet though.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
Yeah, it's hard to write.
Speaker 6 (35:15):
Have you ever written a song with the trumpet?
Speaker 1 (35:17):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (35:18):
I got an exercise from a teacher. She was she's amazing.
Her name is tied Up Jane Ara Bloom, and she
gave us this exercise to go to bed next to
your instrument and then when you wake up the first
without brushing your teeth it's gross. Yeah, you just wake
up and then you grab your trumpet, you put record,
(35:40):
and then you grab the first melody ceremone.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
Wow, I love.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
And then I did the exercise and then this kind
of like Japanese Asian melody came to me and and
we made a song. Hey yeah, I actually call it
like Intergalactic Asia or something.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
But there you go, super full circle.
Speaker 6 (36:03):
One of my favorite songs I've ever written.
Speaker 5 (36:05):
I wrote like that, asked me to literally, woke up,
wrote the whole thing down, went back to bed, woke
up forgot I wrote it. Wow, yeah, gemos because I'm
a heavy sleeper.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
Yeah, speaking of heavy sleeping. This has nothing to do
with the segway, but like what heavy sleeping? We're ready
for the game? Now, all right, are you ready for this?
Speaker 2 (36:24):
I'm ready back with games.
Speaker 4 (36:25):
Well, I think that for some reason, you might be
good with this game.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
So we had always the invisible pat. We're never going
to say any names.
Speaker 4 (36:38):
So we have a couple of different scenarios, some good,
some bad that we're gonna tell you. And we would
love for you to play on your trumpet, but I
guess if you don't want the jew the trumpet, we
also have a guitar bail now that I know what.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
Your favorite is, but you would play what.
Speaker 5 (36:55):
Sounds come to mind, like a lick or a riff
or whatever to mind based on the exercise you just
told us, based on this scenario.
Speaker 2 (37:03):
Okay, give me the guitar to Okay, you.
Speaker 4 (37:05):
Were crossing your bedroom at night. You were oh what.
Speaker 1 (37:10):
Are you saying? You were crossing your bedroom.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
What do you mean?
Speaker 1 (37:12):
Was that like you were walking across your bedroom?
Speaker 2 (37:15):
Okay, I'm walking to my bed.
Speaker 4 (37:16):
You're walking across No, you're in your bedroom. You're you're
very very don't worry so much about the words.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
She's like hyper guitar piano.
Speaker 4 (37:29):
Okay, so you're you're you're walking around your bedroom.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
Let's say at night, are you walking around in your bedroom?
Night going? How about this? You have to get up
to peace?
Speaker 4 (37:43):
So you're walking from your bed to the bathroom thinking
night that hell?
Speaker 2 (37:46):
Smart?
Speaker 1 (37:46):
You step on a lego, go epic, epic, God, I
love it. Okay.
Speaker 5 (38:06):
Second one, you've just found one hundred dollars bill in
the pocket of a pair of jeans you haven't worn
in the years. It's probably at a tune.
Speaker 1 (38:24):
That's it.
Speaker 5 (38:25):
That sounds a little bit, that sounds a little bit
like Barracuda.
Speaker 6 (38:28):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (38:29):
I might have heard that one before.
Speaker 3 (38:32):
All right, all right, you guys want me to become
on John Williams in here.
Speaker 1 (38:34):
Come on. You're doing great. You're doing great. Limited, No,
you're not.
Speaker 6 (38:38):
You're not.
Speaker 4 (38:39):
You're late to a gig and every traffic light that
you hit turns red just as you approach it.
Speaker 1 (38:54):
I felt that.
Speaker 4 (38:54):
Oh my god, yes, I feel like you were just
cursing in truck.
Speaker 1 (39:01):
That will be for show love it, he said. You
wake up to the smell of fresh coffee and your
favorite song is already playing on the radio. MM down, damn,
(39:37):
I was. I was there.
Speaker 5 (39:39):
I'm the one who lesbian trumpeters and the lesbian lesbian community.
Speaker 1 (39:44):
I mean it makes sense. Okay, all right, this is
a great follow up.
Speaker 4 (39:47):
Ready, your crush waves that you your crushed like the
person you like, waves that you across the room and
you're trying to play it cool, but inside you're dying.
Speaker 1 (40:19):
That was just playing it cool. That was cool. She's like,
isn't Sagittarius? I was born with swagger. I didn't forget girl. Okay.
Last one, she likes the game. Last one for your ass.
Speaker 5 (40:38):
You've texted someone a rant about your boss, only.
Speaker 1 (40:42):
To realize you've texted your boss.
Speaker 3 (40:45):
Oh shit, Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (40:51):
Come on, speak through the instrument.
Speaker 2 (41:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (41:14):
The power of music, ladies, germs, germains, dramonts, wh.
Speaker 3 (41:20):
I imagine myself in a cemetery was incredible.
Speaker 1 (41:24):
I wish we had like ten more me too.
Speaker 5 (41:27):
After you guys won't be able to hear those ella,
which I loved hearing the origin of your deciding that name.
Speaker 1 (41:35):
Yeah, thank you for being with us.
Speaker 5 (41:38):
It's been a pleasure without the cameras to talk to
you and get to know you selfishly.
Speaker 1 (41:42):
I wish they were always on, but that's what makes.
Speaker 5 (41:43):
It more special, having those little nuances of you behind
the scenes.
Speaker 1 (41:47):
But this is enough for you, guys.
Speaker 6 (41:49):
So you're welcome.
Speaker 1 (41:50):
Yeah, you're welcome, and thank you for being here.
Speaker 3 (41:53):
It's been a pleasure. This is like unbelievable. I admire
you so much. You're amazing. And I remember I saw
you in New York City many years ago and I
was like a born a star, heartsborn, you know what
I mean?
Speaker 5 (42:05):
A star is a pop star like b York restaurant.
Speaker 3 (42:10):
Remember what you were doing with the radio and everything.
And then you've been so nice to me and it
was really wonderful to me y'all in Spain, and I
hope we can keep friends forever.
Speaker 5 (42:20):
Oh, we'll never forget that. It was a really cool time.
We spent not a lot of time on stage, but
the time that we spent off stage, we had a
fucking great time.
Speaker 1 (42:30):
That wasn't tea. But speaking of tea.
Speaker 5 (42:32):
It's time before you go to induct you into everybody's
favorite out of spaces and work in the old entire
world spaces all.
Speaker 1 (42:39):
Right here in our own world, I report the news.
Speaker 5 (42:42):
I just report then, Okay, I just report the news
in space, and everybody on Earth knows what's going on.
Speaker 1 (42:49):
You deserve to know what's going on in the space,
all right, So here we go.
Speaker 5 (42:53):
First up, aero Vinron, a defense contractor focused on unmanned
aerial vehicles, announced vehicles announced November nineteenth. It plans to
acquire Blue Halo, also a defense tech company. Don't look
at me like that. I just report the news in
a deal valued at approximately ready for this four point
one billion dollars four point one billion.
Speaker 1 (43:15):
Dollars to acquire Blue Halo. Can you believe that shit?
Completely unrelated news. I'm changing my name to Blue Halo.
Speaker 2 (43:23):
I like it. I support your sister.
Speaker 6 (43:25):
Thank you.
Speaker 5 (43:26):
I'm related, all right. New research in our Milky Way
has revealed a neutron star that rotates around its axis
at an extremely high speed. It's been seven hundred and
sixteen times per second, making it the fastest spinning object ever.
NASA officially conferment Space has thrown its ass in a circle.
Speaker 1 (43:45):
Oh all these official NASA I just report the news.
I just don't read it.
Speaker 5 (43:50):
I documented it. I'd want to make sure that everybody
knows exactly what's going on. And lastly, Trump to attend
SpaceX Starships six flight tests. NASA is offering five thousand
dollars to any onlooker who will push him in, shut
the damn door, and throw the rocket key in the
dead center of the Bermuda triangle. It doesn't matter either way, honestly,
(44:11):
all jokes aside.
Speaker 1 (44:12):
This is the news.
Speaker 5 (44:12):
But I'm happy for them because Elon and Trump can
finally have sex in peace.
Speaker 1 (44:17):
All right, this has been Space. Thank you so good,
so good claps around the world. Thank you.
Speaker 4 (44:32):
Wow, well, what an absolute pleasure to have you here
sitting with us.
Speaker 2 (44:36):
Are we still recording?
Speaker 1 (44:37):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (44:42):
I have a song name Mimi Planeta. Oh yeah, it's
very hot, so yeah.
Speaker 1 (44:52):
Wow, I love it. And that's what fields the SSL
that you mixed the song on contigure that Oh yes,
please right now. Nothing well, in.
Speaker 4 (45:07):
Honor of ASMR, I just want to say that I'm
really glad that our listeners have an opportunity to get
to know you.
Speaker 1 (45:15):
Better because you're pretty cool.
Speaker 5 (45:27):
Alright, this has been an amazing episode and it's been
a real privilege to have you here with us on
the couch.
Speaker 6 (45:35):
So thank you.
Speaker 2 (45:37):
I'm very honored to be here.
Speaker 3 (45:39):
And I wanted to say that I saw you performing
in New York City many years ago. It's right, I
was in front seat, and when I saw your performing.
Speaker 2 (45:49):
I was like, well, uh, star is born.
Speaker 3 (45:53):
And you were doing the thing with the with the
radio and everything, playing all the instruments.
Speaker 2 (45:57):
It was really inspiring. And it's kind of like seem
to be being able to be here now. And although
that I.
Speaker 3 (46:03):
Don't know you, yeah very much, I do know that
you have an amazing talent for writing songs, and I
cannot wait for us to write amazing songs together and
to see that Butterfly be coming and what it's gonna
become in the next years.
Speaker 2 (46:17):
And I feel like you guys are.
Speaker 3 (46:18):
Very lucky to have each other and are I'm very
happy if you don't invite me too. Whenever you guys
get married, you're gonna you're gonna.
Speaker 5 (46:29):
The realty from the soul. And you're right, we haven't
known each other that long, and I appreciate you being there,
But there's something that the three of us or the
two of you, or something's gonna happen the two of
you or the two of us. Hey, I'm fans, so
I can't want to see what happens.
Speaker 4 (46:43):
Hello.
Speaker 2 (46:43):
Grammy nominated for some writing.
Speaker 1 (46:45):
Oh my god, no no, but I do feel like
the Grammys are fun.
Speaker 5 (46:51):
But we have stories to tell and it would be
fun to tell them together and learn more about each other.
Speaker 1 (46:55):
Thank you for flying with us before we de orbit.
Speaker 5 (46:58):
And you guys are sadder for missing these three hot
pitches that you have been listening to and or seeing
and or both because you love us that much. Ella,
tell us what you're up to, and tell everybody where
to find your new ship that you've been creating introvertedly
in your room.
Speaker 3 (47:11):
You can find me on Instagram and Labrick Music. You
can find me on Spotify as Labrick Lindore Sane.
Speaker 2 (47:17):
It's just the old stuff. So don't go there, please, And.
Speaker 3 (47:20):
I know you're gonna go there, but yeah, absolutely, we're
trying to get more listener to.
Speaker 2 (47:24):
So support Labrick now.
Speaker 5 (47:25):
There, you go, support Labrick now. Trust me, you're not
gonna regret it. She's a fucking badass and also support
your girls at in Our Own World pod at in
our Own World pod on instept or are your socials
and only fans just kidding?
Speaker 6 (47:36):
Don't go there, but do it? Why not?
Speaker 1 (47:38):
We'll see you next flight. Bye, love you, I Love you.
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Speaker 2 (00:01):
No, I love it on.
Speaker 3 (00:04):
My dad just found me when I was four in
his room grabbing the trumpet and trying to imitate the
Mambo number five because we used.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
To watch them.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
I love that.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
My dad was like, she's gonna play trumpets.
Speaker 4 (00:17):
Oh, this is what happens when a songwriter speaks. It
sounds like music and they're just words.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
This whole episode is going to be quotes. Yeah, yeah,
you know, where's the water?
Speaker 3 (00:26):
I remember when I won the Grammy in the twenty
eighteen it was a nymer. Touring for long periods can
teach you a lot about your own character. I'm getting
(00:51):
too deep.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Hello, so we get deep deep. It's coming to my
black hole day.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Yeah for.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
Earthlinks, astronauts, space dust collectors, Welcome back to yet another
voyage aboard the mothership, the Motorship. It is season three
of In Our Own World, and today we're landing on
a planet of pure talent.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
That's right.
Speaker 5 (01:26):
We have an extra special guest joining us in the
intergalactic lounge. A musical force, truly, a force felt it
in my chest, the first woman to win the Latin
Grammy for Producer of the Year.
Speaker 6 (01:38):
Mitch bow down.
Speaker 5 (01:39):
Okay, fusion master, trumpet, virtuoso composer of vocalist, and.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Fearless advocate for women in the arts. You've heard her.
Speaker 5 (01:46):
Magic all over the world, but today she's stepping off
the stage and.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
We are blessed to have her here with us.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
We're talking passion, creativity, storytelling, and what it means to
chart your own course in an industry full of playback
and shortcuts.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
So whether you're tuning in from Earth, Mars, or somewhere
else in the universe, strap in, because this is going
to be one for the books, and we are here
with the one and only Eland. Welcome.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Hi, I'm so excited to be here. Welcome, Thank you.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
We're so happy to have you here.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Really, yes, I'm very glit.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Why really, why question that?
Speaker 3 (02:30):
It's amazing being here. It's like I feel like I'm
dreaming or something. This is crazy.
Speaker 5 (02:35):
That's what happens when you go to space. You get
a little floaty. Speaking of that's how we felt when
we met you for the first time, which before we
get into all the drama, because we have a light
detective test now, I.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
Love it for those of you out there that want
to know how we met Ella. It was an amazing.
Speaker 5 (02:51):
Story because on the first episode of this season we
talked about our time with Carol g.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
And Ella was the mascot of that experience.
Speaker 4 (02:59):
I think we even talked about her and shout her
out on that episode. So if you listen to season
one of this episode, you'll hear it exactly. But now
she's finally here, sitting in our spaceship with us.
Speaker 5 (03:09):
Yeah, and seeing you in that environment, first of all,
such a big pop artist. You know, we're having like
actual band rehearsals, and to see you vouching for everybody,
taking care of everybody, being the.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Badass that you are.
Speaker 5 (03:22):
We met you as an amazing band leader, musical director,
liaison between the new Girls, and you know y'all that
had been doing it for so long, and you did
it with so much class and effortlessness that it made
us instantly fall in love with you. Then we found
out all this other amazing shit about you. That just
was the cherry on top and the sprinkles of the
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beauty of who you are as a person. So my
first question for you is who is Elabrick.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
Elbritica is the daughter of flor Maria and Andre and
my dad is a drummer Venezuela obsessed with jazz. My
mom is not a musician, but she likes one audil.
So while my dad was playing drums in the home,
she was like frying plantains and stuff like that, and
then the house was like all noise and stuff. So
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that's how I came into the picture. My I'm known
as Lena Rissanea as my my legal name.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Why did you choose to change it?
Speaker 3 (04:25):
I choose to change it because, very deep in my heart,
I feel like I wanted to create this persona so
I can do cool things under her. And also because
I was such a fan of Ella Fitzgerald, so I
wanted to be cool enough as her, and I decided
to call myself Ella. That's that's who Ela is. She's
a dreamer, someone that loves life, and someone very sensitive
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as well and funny and you know.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
And funny.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
Well, so you know, we might know, but there are
people out there in the world who might hear the
term music producer and ask themselves what does that mean?
Speaker 1 (05:12):
What does a music producer do? How would you explain that?
Speaker 3 (05:15):
Well, music producer has different meanings throughout the years. In
the past, music producers used to do everything, like you know,
create albums, but also like choose the stylists everything and
be the person like in charge of the whole production
and the vision for an artist.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
But nowadays it has changed.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
So I'm going to tell you what kind of producer
I feel I am, and I feel like I feel
like music production is just being able to translate a
message and have a connection with an artist, and being
able to make that message available and relevant for the
artists and self, but also to do it in a
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way that is suggestible as well, or to make it
relevant for the people for whatever is happening in the world.
I feel like, as Nina Simon said, the role of
the artist somehow is being able to reflect the times
that we're living in.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
So I feel like the producer is the one who
is in the back trying to help the artists find
the voice and share it.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
With the world.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
I love a president for real.
Speaker 5 (06:23):
Yeah, And just to touch upon what you said when
I hear the term producer, because I'm blessed enough to
grow up in a world where it was around old
school music production, I feel like nowadays people label producers
as like beat makers or things like that. People who
are able to, you know, either create or record their
own music. And there's an immense amazing value to that.
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But the old school term of producer needs to be
brought back into what music is.
Speaker 6 (06:52):
To get the feeling.
Speaker 5 (06:53):
Of a band, a creative direction, a certain sound.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Yeah, the songs.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
The song.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
To me, the song is the most important step for
a producer to whether work with an artist or to
see what's going to be the sustainability of a project. Right,
And I've learned this from from the best your that
is one of them. I feel like the most important
thing is if you if the song is good. You know,
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you can create different scenarios for a song. And one
thing that I like about a good song is like
it can.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
It can sing rock, whatever gen Yeah.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
Oh I like that that you can like grab any
song and sing it in a different genre and it
still works. Yes, And it's a lot of fun. Actually,
it's like a fun little yeah, a little pastime.
Speaker 5 (07:44):
So would you say the most important person in a
room in a session as a songwriter?
Speaker 2 (07:50):
No, I feel like everybody is important, yeah, right, they
play their own Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
I feel like depending on the projects, like I like
to divide always the auctions in three stages, the pre production,
the recording and everything, and the post production. I feel
like the pre production it comes always holding hands with songwriters.
Some some songwriters don't like songwriting with other people. Some
some other people had like a more lonely like process.
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But I like the idea of collaborating with other writers
and try to get to one song and for the
same purpose right and then after that. I like when
whenever the song is finished in Polish, I'd like to
get with the artists and trying to dream with the
musicians that we want to use and try to develop
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the sound. It's my I feel that that's my biggest passion.
I don't consider myself like a beat maker. I'm actually
terrible at it. I'm very more mostly like an old
school person. I like the idea of getting in the
studio or just getting a friend who I'm passionate about
his sound and the guitar, and then get his sound,
you know, imprinted in a track and kind of like
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enjoying that as as used to be. That's how I
learned how to record, by watching my dad, you know,
recording with different musicians, and that's how I kind of
like started producing.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
You always say all you need is a guitar, Yes,
a good one.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
I feel like you've carved out a space for live
musicianship in a world that's increasingly digital.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Yes.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
What do you think that live music reveals about humanity
that maybe a machine.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Could never That's a great question.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
I feel like I like the idea of working alongside
with machines. I feel like there are alleys, but there
comes a time where people, you know, I feel like
music is it was it meant to, you know, elevate
your spirit. And when we talk about spirit, when we
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talk about emotions, there are a lot of things that
are not tangible. There are a lot of things that
are not being able to touch in that it's only
the thing that the human mind can understand that you know,
other species or they're able to feel her into instinct.
But as human beings, we were given this amazing brain
that is able to feel emotions and to have the gift.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Of words and voice. Right, I'm getting too deep.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Hello, we get deep deep, Come into my black hole.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
Bit. Yeah, yeah, that's that's that's what.
Speaker 6 (10:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
I don't know if that answered your question.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
I think it's Yeah.
Speaker 5 (10:35):
No, first of all, last night she was literally laughing
because Gem and I were crying at an America's Got
Talent video of super talented people.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
There's nothing wrong with that. Actually, what are you so?
It's so funny in our tears? She delighted. She delighted
in that.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
No.
Speaker 5 (10:54):
Yeah, I want to crack your brain open and see
what the hell is going on in there, because speaking
of you really shocking me with time we've spent together,
one of the things that was impressive to me about
some of the conversations that we've had is you've talked
about cultural appropriation.
Speaker 6 (11:09):
And music and you know, whatever you want.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
We're in space.
Speaker 5 (11:23):
But by the way, you don't have to answer, girl,
We're still gonna post it in air your tea. No,
you know some friend, Okay, you have. You've played a
myriad of genres of music, and I would consider you're
you as somebody that's very well studied, who has done
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the due diligence of understanding who musicians today are because
of the people that have.
Speaker 6 (11:48):
Come before us.
Speaker 5 (11:49):
As a result, I've learned by being around you that
you feel a duty correct me if I'm wrong to
do certain rhythms, certain countries, certain places, just tell me
how you feel about that, Like, is that something that
you struggle with in your own music even from where
you're from, because a lot of the music that I've
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heard you do is a fusion of everything.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
Yes, that's a wonderful question. I it goes back to
the way I was raised. And it's funny because I
was raised in a very small town named San Antonio
Los Altos, which was forty minutes from Karakasa.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
I'm not even from the capitol.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
And I grew up not knowing what my identity as
a Venezuelan was. Uh, and my dad was he did
an amazing research and he kind of like incorporated like
Afro a Venezuelan rhythms in the drums, which is a
North American instrument.
Speaker 5 (12:44):
Right.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
But then I was, you know, I grew up.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
With and singing and La Fitzgerald, you know, and sync.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
And play names. Yeah, you know. And and when I
moved to New.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
York City, I applied to school because I needed excuse
to leave the country.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
I needed the visa, but I wanted to be a
pop star.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
And then I was like, Okay, I need the visa,
so I'm.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Gonna do this.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
I'm gonna get into the kind of pop start did
you want to be?
Speaker 2 (13:13):
I don't know, I didn't you didn't know?
Speaker 1 (13:15):
What that matter? Who did you like?
Speaker 6 (13:16):
A mind?
Speaker 2 (13:16):
I wanted to be no longer, No.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Not no longer. Curiously, who did you want to be? What? What?
Pop star? Where you were?
Speaker 3 (13:25):
Like?
Speaker 1 (13:25):
Damn, that's exactly what I want to be doing.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
I don't know. I feel like I wanted to be
a mix.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
Of Beyord with Experience Folding with Justin Timberlake.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
She says, Justin timber is the only pop there. You know,
you're sitting at sea with a jazzer pop star? Do
you want to be? I don't know, fling. I love
that though, what a convo I can say it? I know?
Speaker 2 (13:52):
I know?
Speaker 1 (13:52):
Let me style you York styling? Are you kidding?
Speaker 2 (13:57):
Crazy?
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Pure place? But it's like intergalactic play that I love that.
Speaker 5 (14:02):
And now that we know that she's homies with the Robots,
I never know what we're gonna get.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
Yeah, I'm homies with the robots. They're good friends.
Speaker 5 (14:10):
Yeah, okay, okay, So you're so old school, right, And
we've had musicians on the Scouts that we really love
and respect, and we've asked this question a few times.
Go listen to the rest of our episodes.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
Would you.
Speaker 5 (14:26):
Ella Fitzgerald rises from the Dead or somebody that you
really respect, And they say, will you do this song
with me? But it's a trash song? And you just
said the importance of song. If it's a good song,
are you gonna do it? If it's trash?
Speaker 2 (14:40):
Of course, of course?
Speaker 3 (14:41):
How why I feel like if it's I love Fitzgerald,
she could make anything great. And I feel like one
of the things that I love about improvisation is that
you can grab any melody, any any lyric you know,
and just give it your own me need to make
it different, right, Yeah, I will definitely say yes, But
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if it's misogynistic.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
Or violent or anything like that, I won't.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
We have standards here, Yeah, yeah, like that no violence
for women.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
I like that. I like that obviously.
Speaker 4 (15:29):
The three of us, and you two especially, I think
we're appreciators of jazz.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
Here we go. How how do you see the future
of jazz?
Speaker 3 (15:44):
Well, I don't consider myself a jazz musician. I have
I'm a good imitator, and I have so much respect
for the people who does jazz. I feel like the
future in jazz it looks bright to me. I can
rest confidently knowing that there's still kids showing up to
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learn the genre that exists places like Jasaline Con Center,
where guys like Winter Marsalis fights to keep the traditional
life to make sure like in the schools, it's being teached,
it's being taught about jazz and democracy, the Great Migration,
the Civil rights movement, which is a historical part of
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what jazz and why it is just so relevant. Jazz
is the music of America, and I feel like Kuanos
and Latin American people also has a party in that
contribution to jazz because if you go back to yeah,
like if you go back, you know, it was very
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easy for people to take a ferry from Kua to
New Orleans, and jazz is just a mix in diversity
of everything mixed together. And I feel like that's what
America is looking like in the.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
Future, a mix of diverse flavors.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
And I feel like you keep growing and growing and
everybody has been able to make and create their own
jazz from a from an honest placed love that.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
Yeah on jazz, you heard that jazz is not dead.
Speaker 4 (17:16):
This is what happens when a songwriter speaks it sounds
like music and they're just words.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
Damn, this whole episode is going to be quotes. I'm
just here, like looking at these women eating popcorn. I
am eating popcorn. I have a good view. What can
I say?
Speaker 5 (17:34):
Before we talked about this question, you brought up something
which is important. You know whoa if it's not misogynistic.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
Right, Let's be real.
Speaker 5 (17:40):
We're in a male dominated industry, and to be honest,
I was talking to gem this is me being real
and I know that trumpet is not all you do.
It's a color of what you do, which happens to
me too. Everybody's like, what instrument do you play? I'm like,
I don't, right, But what's my answer to your point?
Speaker 1 (17:58):
You're like, I respect jazz too much.
Speaker 5 (18:00):
I respect instrumentalists too much to say, oh, I play this,
I play that, I play a little bit of everything,
but I haven't.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
A little She said, it's so good.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
I see you see But she's like the Lulu city
over there.
Speaker 5 (18:14):
But that's what makes me real, Like it's okay. What
people respond to in my playing is a combination of experience, dynamics, performance,
and talent, the least of which some of the time
for me, I know that if I put in the
hours to continue to study my rudiments, my practice the
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way I did, like somebody like Nick Grayson Ni Krutman
shout out, you know, I'm much oll.
Speaker 6 (18:38):
Of you, man.
Speaker 5 (18:39):
Like they're consistently evolving in their specific talent with their instrument.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
I know that that's not me.
Speaker 5 (18:46):
I might get better little by little in my instrument,
and I may be impressive to some people, but I
know that I'm not a master of that craft.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
And that's okay, jack of all trades, master of none,
but better than being a master of one, and better
than being a master bab Anyway.
Speaker 5 (19:00):
The point is that I back to my question. We're
in a male dominated industry. I played drums, you a
lot of the time. Played trumpet I can't name, and
I'm really ashamed to say this one like famous female
trumpet player. Have you encountered difficulties or like trials and
turbulations playing trumpet or just being a female songwriter females?
Speaker 1 (19:26):
Yeah, in that award. Literally, I mean you're like this
from carrying.
Speaker 6 (19:31):
Us on it.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
Please answer all five questions above.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
Yeah, they're actually when I grew up. There was very
few figures that I could look up. My dad just
found me when I was four in his room, grabbing
the trumpet and trying to imitate the Mambo number five
because we used.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
To watch them. I love that, and my dad was like,
she's just gonna play trumpet. He decided he chose that
for me.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
But there were not many Venezuelans or Latin American trumpet players.
And then it became like a thing in Venezuela to
to you know. And there were also like another colleagues
that were playing trumpet for some reason, they just like
or give it up, or they would just start having
a family or whatever. But when I came to New
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York City late in my twenties, I noticed that there
was like a there were a lot of female trumpet players,
especially in the jazz world. Also, Hilbertoosa I got to meet,
which is amazing, and she's very interested in Latin American music.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
She has recorded with.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
Isa del Gao, Hilberto a Meando. I learned that there
were a lot of female trumpet players, It's just that
not everybody followed the path that I followed. I wanted
my music to be known. Some of the trumpet players
that I've known, they have gone more to a classical world.
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Alison Balison is a wonderful soloist. There there are so many,
so many different trumpet players, and the trumpet is just
like a universe, Like you can be a lead trumpet
and just dedicate to that. I can name Tanya Darabi,
which used to be the lead player of the Village Banguard.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
Orchestra in New York City.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
Now she teaches at the University of North Texas, And
there are so many, so many, it's just like depending
on the path and the visibility. Right now, there's a
new generation of new trumpet players that are crazy.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
They also produce.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
They also seeing experiences partly, and had a trumpet player
that also sings.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
And she has her own music.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
So it's kind of like an underworld that is being known.
But I do recognize that when I grow up, there
were many and.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
I've lived many lives.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
You have you have, You've been a part of some
of the world's largest stages and some of the most incredible,
but I'm sure also nerve wracking performances, live performances. What
would you tell somebody who is stepping on to a
stage for the first time, but is battling those those nerves.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
I feel like the nerves are the reminder that we
need something above in order to do what we do,
and it's weird and it's contrast is like a contradiction
because also you need your ego as well exactly, and
you need the delusion, you need all of that. But
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I feel like the nerves are kind of like it's
like when you work out in your sword the next day.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
The same is when when.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
When you're you know your nervous before coming and if
you if it gets too overwhelming, I will recommend you
to have a routine.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
People have different routines.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
Yeah, some people like to meditate, some people like to
have mminems or sour patch.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
Okay, I like.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
Yeah, because the sour patch.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
They had this spicy thing that it kind of like
breaks the panic attacks.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
What oh my god, Yeah, you're kidding me.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
No, I'm not kidding.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
There you go.
Speaker 4 (23:24):
Yeah, there's like an actual reason shove a bag sour patch.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
You know when people have like panic attacks and tough
like that.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
People are being told like getting a cold shower and
have something that it can give you a chalk like
if you eat sour patch. While having a panic attack
or before going on stage. It will definitely tell your brain. Okay,
let's go.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
Pro tips ladies.
Speaker 4 (23:48):
Okay, So kind of in the same vein as as
a live show. You've done something that Emily has done
or been a part of that I've never been a
part of. And you've gone on a long tour. You
have been a touring musician where you're out of your
house for I don't know how long. What's the longest
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that you've been two years and a half, two years
and a half. Yeah, Can you talk a little bit
about the impact that a tour life can have on
your life.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
We always have like these complaints with our parents of
things that they didn't do. One thing that I regret
that my dad did was like he was always out
while I was, you know, growing up.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
Wait, does grab the guitar? She can play, right?
Speaker 3 (24:40):
And I kind of like missed that time with my dad.
But he was always traveling and touring. So I kind
of like promised myself that I was not going to
be that, although that I don't have kids yet, but
I was like, I don't want to be a touring
musician for sure. And then I was so focused on
creating the album that I that I'm finishing now. And
then my manager got thin nosed with cancer and I
was like, okay, we're both freelancers. She cannot work. I
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need to get myself out there. And then while she
was on the treatment, I got this phone call from
a good friend from Venezuela. His name is Samuel Gardnica,
and he's like, hey, they're looking for a female trumpet
player for the musical of Gloria Stephan. Oh, I don't know,
and I'm like, okay, how is this tour?
Speaker 2 (25:26):
How does it work?
Speaker 3 (25:28):
I'm like, well, do you really want to do this?
It's like hard work, and I'm like, yeah, let's do it.
And then that was my first touring experience in a
long yeah. Setting up, I was used to travel, but
not for a year. Yeah, And this tour was so
particular because we were traveling at a bus. He was like,
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very independent, he was very funny, I was sharing rooms.
But he taught me so much about touring for long
periods can teach you a lot of about your own
character and your own ability of interacting with others, right,
And the impact that these different experiences had is like,
depending on the production, you have to develop this skin.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
That it makes you decide.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
What you want in the future and what you don't want.
And I feel like these three different settings. First was
the musical with the Musical of Emilio and Gloria. After that,
I was in San Diego for another play, Destiny of Desire,
and then I was called to do a Carol g
So these three settings were very.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
Different from each other completely. But I never wanted to
be there.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
I never wanted to be It was more like a
survival mouth that kind of like pushed me to go there.
But I feel like it was just the universe like
get out there, I'm gonna show you some stuff, and
I and I learned a bunch. I feel like it
can have an impact on your mental health definitely if
you don't, you know, find ways.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
Of regulating and relate the change of.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
Oh, don't even get me started.
Speaker 5 (27:04):
No, no, not to spill tea, just like when you're
traveling like that. Yeah, it's really hard because I've had
a lot of people in my life that I know
that have consistently been on the road, and as a result,
the only.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
Relationships they have are on the road. And that's also
a bubble you know how that starts to feel.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
That's actually we call it the.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
Right Yeah, when you're starting people that you wouldn't even.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
You're like.
Speaker 4 (27:30):
They what so being that that was kind of like
an unexpected experience for you, what was the most unexpected part?
Speaker 3 (27:40):
The most unexpected part is the one that I hate
the most, which is flying.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
Oh I hate flying with my wow.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
Like being in the plane or like the time, it
takes everything, just.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
Everything about flying I hate.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
I mean, it's absolutely unnatural.
Speaker 4 (27:54):
I think it's a justifiable fear and why are we
in this big metal machine in the sky.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
And also has an impact on you physically.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
Our bodies are.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
Not developed for you to be altitude no no and
h and dryness no no no no, and no thank
you and in the bag my bag was joyed after
two years of doing.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
This on the long flight, Girl, this is this is
the truth.
Speaker 5 (28:20):
Listen, I'm a Nepo baby, but we'd be doing things
out here where we're back there in economy for ten hours.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
While we're doing the last time, I'm like, get the gurgle.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
Yeah, I know, I know.
Speaker 4 (28:30):
It's it's terrible, it's terrible, it sounds terrible. We get
to the point where you're like, I'm not doing that again.
Speaker 5 (28:36):
You know what here fucking Cyndi Laupper is at seventy
two with her as she's.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
Not an economy honey, No, she's on a bus. Okay,
but yeah, yeah, yeah, it isn't believe.
Speaker 5 (28:46):
It doesn't matter what stage in your life here. That's
that's the thing that for me, if we want to
come into this artistic.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
World just like all the other worlds that exists.
Speaker 5 (28:56):
I understand that sometimes it's not a choice. Sometimes you're
an artist and all of a sudden you're it pops off,
especially now.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
When we're living in the world of being viral and whatnot.
You know, but.
Speaker 5 (29:07):
If we want to share our music, like you said,
I wanted to do more. I wanted to share my music,
right My personal last question for you because I share
I feel like maybe some of these sentiments with you.
There's a part of the music creative art industry that's
not so fun, being in front of people events things
like that.
Speaker 6 (29:27):
How are you able to balance those two things?
Speaker 5 (29:30):
Is that something that comes easy to you or something
that you don't enjoy, because for me, it really depends.
Speaker 4 (29:37):
I feel like if em could perform for the world
and not do any other part of music business.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
She would, Yeah, and the writing part of it, of course.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
You know what.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
I remember when I got in New York, many people
told me in order to get jobs and works, you
had to put yourself out there and be in the
jam sessions and whatever.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
You got to hang out.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
And I'm like, Okay, I'm gonna try. And then I
realized I couldn't do it. It was hard for me.
It was expensive, it was cold. I was not emotionally
able to do that. And much most of the time
I kind of like force myself to do things so
that I didn't want to do because I thought that
it was the job, it.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
Was part of it.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
But with the years, I've learned that many people are
very in troubled like myself. I remember when I won
the Grammy in twenty eighteen. It was a nyma for me,
being in the week of the Latin Grammies.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
But I mean there was a part that I.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
Will enjoy, which is always share a meal with someone eating,
going to a place. Most of the people were going
to the parties, and I was like, can we go
to the circles so late? I don't know whatever, And
then I realized that, yeah, most of the time, it's
just I feel like you can be in any room
and that's not going to mean anything for you. But
if you know the rooms that you want to be
(30:56):
and the people that you want to that's when you
have to show up.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
You don't have to force.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
Yourself to be in the party and to do the networking,
because it actually doesn't work like that. I like being
exclusive with myself. I don't like given the the impression
that I'm like all.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
The time not accessible.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
I'm pretty much accessible, but i'd.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
Like accessible personally.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
Yes exactly, but I want to I want to be
able to also save my my my energy, my my love,
and and the things that I protect the most, which
is my art, the people that I actually connect with
and people that I know it cares about the art
that I do because it's a very superficial world out
there as well. Yes, and nobody likes rejection. It's hard
(31:41):
if we all have our insecurities and and although it's
part of the process as well and it helps you grow,
I feel like we don't have to force ourselves to
be in those spaces if you don't feel like I
feel like the opportunities, and that's how I've done most
of my life. I mean, if you want to be
(32:01):
a superstar, if you want to be someone like I
don't know.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
K, of course you have to do the job. She
has paid her dues in order to be wherever she is.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
But also depending on what do you want and where
do you want.
Speaker 5 (32:12):
To be, and separating the art from the career, that's
where I agree to disagree with you and disagree with myself.
Because social media all this new stuff, accessibility, connections, networking,
to me, that feels super false. So I've had to
find a way to be able to understand that's part
(32:33):
of my job and still make it real, if that
makes sense.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
Translate it.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
I think that you are a great in those set,
but when you want to be it, let's be real.
Speaker 5 (32:43):
Today, gem and I were in a place I was
an incredible networking opportunity and I felt like I just
wasn't amongst my people and I didn't feel comfortable, I
don't know, making connections that I didn't want to make
and it sucks and.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
I felt like ship after. But also I felt like.
Speaker 5 (33:02):
I honored my emotions and how I was feeling that
ultimately fuel my art and what really matters to me.
But it's hard, it's it's a especially now it's a yeah,
we'll be fine. Everybody jazz is alive, so.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
We're better than we thought. I have one last question
for you, and then we have a little game, because
then I'm going to make you put your mouth on that.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
Really the.
Speaker 4 (33:47):
Studio is burning down. It's burning down down to the ground.
You can only grab cancel one instrument to save.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
What instrument is it and why?
Speaker 2 (33:59):
Depending on what instruments are in the room.
Speaker 5 (34:01):
Everything, every instruments in the room, and there are no
other instruments in the world.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
This is your last chance to say, now.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
The last but musical instruments.
Speaker 5 (34:11):
Yes, what do you think? We're talking about sex toys?
Speaker 3 (34:17):
I was between the ads and I'm thinking or something.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
The music studio is burning down.
Speaker 4 (34:28):
Okay, the instrument is in the room. Yeah, you can
only leave with one instrument. Don't worry about size or weight.
You don't be practical about this. You basically have the
opportunity to say one's Sophie's choice for you.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
The guitar. For sure.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
I knew she was gonna say why why?
Speaker 3 (34:47):
Because I can write songs with it? It's comfortable, it's
not heavy, although that.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
If heavy wasn't a factor, would that still be your answer.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
I'm concerned about the strings, though.
Speaker 1 (34:58):
I don't know the practical like I take the piano.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
Can you take the piano?
Speaker 1 (35:03):
Yes, she said, don't worry about.
Speaker 5 (35:04):
Don't worry about I will do the guitar for sure.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
Okay, even if you could take the piano, you do
the guitar.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
Not the trumpet though.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
Yeah, it's hard to write.
Speaker 6 (35:15):
Have you ever written a song with the trumpet?
Speaker 1 (35:17):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (35:18):
I got an exercise from a teacher. She was she's amazing.
Her name is tied Up Jane Ara Bloom, and she
gave us this exercise to go to bed next to
your instrument and then when you wake up the first
without brushing your teeth it's gross. Yeah, you just wake
up and then you grab your trumpet, you put record,
(35:40):
and then you grab the first melody ceremone.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
Wow, I love.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
And then I did the exercise and then this kind
of like Japanese Asian melody came to me and and
we made a song. Hey yeah, I actually call it
like Intergalactic Asia or something.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
But there you go, super full circle.
Speaker 6 (36:03):
One of my favorite songs I've ever written.
Speaker 5 (36:05):
I wrote like that, asked me to literally, woke up,
wrote the whole thing down, went back to bed, woke
up forgot I wrote it. Wow, yeah, gemos because I'm
a heavy sleeper.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
Yeah, speaking of heavy sleeping. This has nothing to do
with the segway, but like what heavy sleeping? We're ready
for the game? Now, all right, are you ready for this?
Speaker 2 (36:24):
I'm ready back with games.
Speaker 4 (36:25):
Well, I think that for some reason, you might be
good with this game.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
So we had always the invisible pat. We're never going
to say any names.
Speaker 4 (36:38):
So we have a couple of different scenarios, some good,
some bad that we're gonna tell you. And we would
love for you to play on your trumpet, but I
guess if you don't want the jew the trumpet, we
also have a guitar bail now that I know what.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
Your favorite is, but you would play what.
Speaker 5 (36:55):
Sounds come to mind, like a lick or a riff
or whatever to mind based on the exercise you just
told us, based on this scenario.
Speaker 2 (37:03):
Okay, give me the guitar to Okay, you.
Speaker 4 (37:05):
Were crossing your bedroom at night. You were oh what.
Speaker 1 (37:10):
Are you saying? You were crossing your bedroom.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
What do you mean?
Speaker 1 (37:12):
Was that like you were walking across your bedroom?
Speaker 2 (37:15):
Okay, I'm walking to my bed.
Speaker 4 (37:16):
You're walking across No, you're in your bedroom. You're you're
very very don't worry so much about the words.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
She's like hyper guitar piano.
Speaker 4 (37:29):
Okay, so you're you're you're walking around your bedroom.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
Let's say at night, are you walking around in your bedroom?
Night going? How about this? You have to get up
to peace?
Speaker 4 (37:43):
So you're walking from your bed to the bathroom thinking
night that hell?
Speaker 2 (37:46):
Smart?
Speaker 1 (37:46):
You step on a lego, go epic, epic, God, I
love it. Okay.
Speaker 5 (38:06):
Second one, you've just found one hundred dollars bill in
the pocket of a pair of jeans you haven't worn
in the years. It's probably at a tune.
Speaker 1 (38:24):
That's it.
Speaker 5 (38:25):
That sounds a little bit, that sounds a little bit
like Barracuda.
Speaker 6 (38:28):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (38:29):
I might have heard that one before.
Speaker 3 (38:32):
All right, all right, you guys want me to become
on John Williams in here.
Speaker 1 (38:34):
Come on. You're doing great. You're doing great. Limited, No,
you're not.
Speaker 6 (38:38):
You're not.
Speaker 4 (38:39):
You're late to a gig and every traffic light that
you hit turns red just as you approach it.
Speaker 1 (38:54):
I felt that.
Speaker 4 (38:54):
Oh my god, yes, I feel like you were just
cursing in truck.
Speaker 1 (39:01):
That will be for show love it, he said. You
wake up to the smell of fresh coffee and your
favorite song is already playing on the radio. MM down, damn,
(39:37):
I was. I was there.
Speaker 5 (39:39):
I'm the one who lesbian trumpeters and the lesbian lesbian community.
Speaker 1 (39:44):
I mean it makes sense. Okay, all right, this is
a great follow up.
Speaker 4 (39:47):
Ready, your crush waves that you your crushed like the
person you like, waves that you across the room and
you're trying to play it cool, but inside you're dying.
Speaker 1 (40:19):
That was just playing it cool. That was cool. She's like,
isn't Sagittarius? I was born with swagger. I didn't forget girl. Okay.
Last one, she likes the game. Last one for your ass.
Speaker 5 (40:38):
You've texted someone a rant about your boss, only.
Speaker 1 (40:42):
To realize you've texted your boss.
Speaker 3 (40:45):
Oh shit, Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (40:51):
Come on, speak through the instrument.
Speaker 2 (41:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (41:14):
The power of music, ladies, germs, germains, dramonts, wh.
Speaker 3 (41:20):
I imagine myself in a cemetery was incredible.
Speaker 1 (41:24):
I wish we had like ten more me too.
Speaker 5 (41:27):
After you guys won't be able to hear those ella,
which I loved hearing the origin of your deciding that name.
Speaker 1 (41:35):
Yeah, thank you for being with us.
Speaker 5 (41:38):
It's been a pleasure without the cameras to talk to
you and get to know you selfishly.
Speaker 1 (41:42):
I wish they were always on, but that's what makes.
Speaker 5 (41:43):
It more special, having those little nuances of you behind
the scenes.
Speaker 1 (41:47):
But this is enough for you, guys.
Speaker 6 (41:49):
So you're welcome.
Speaker 1 (41:50):
Yeah, you're welcome, and thank you for being here.
Speaker 3 (41:53):
It's been a pleasure. This is like unbelievable. I admire
you so much. You're amazing. And I remember I saw
you in New York City many years ago and I
was like a born a star, heartsborn, you know what
I mean?
Speaker 5 (42:05):
A star is a pop star like b York restaurant.
Speaker 3 (42:10):
Remember what you were doing with the radio and everything.
And then you've been so nice to me and it
was really wonderful to me y'all in Spain, and I
hope we can keep friends forever.
Speaker 5 (42:20):
Oh, we'll never forget that. It was a really cool time.
We spent not a lot of time on stage, but
the time that we spent off stage, we had a
fucking great time.
Speaker 1 (42:30):
That wasn't tea. But speaking of tea.
Speaker 5 (42:32):
It's time before you go to induct you into everybody's
favorite out of spaces and work in the old entire
world spaces all.
Speaker 1 (42:39):
Right here in our own world, I report the news.
Speaker 5 (42:42):
I just report then, Okay, I just report the news
in space, and everybody on Earth knows what's going on.
Speaker 1 (42:49):
You deserve to know what's going on in the space,
all right, So here we go.
Speaker 5 (42:53):
First up, aero Vinron, a defense contractor focused on unmanned
aerial vehicles, announced vehicles announced November nineteenth. It plans to
acquire Blue Halo, also a defense tech company. Don't look
at me like that. I just report the news in
a deal valued at approximately ready for this four point
one billion dollars four point one billion.
Speaker 1 (43:15):
Dollars to acquire Blue Halo. Can you believe that shit?
Completely unrelated news. I'm changing my name to Blue Halo.
Speaker 2 (43:23):
I like it. I support your sister.
Speaker 6 (43:25):
Thank you.
Speaker 5 (43:26):
I'm related, all right. New research in our Milky Way
has revealed a neutron star that rotates around its axis
at an extremely high speed. It's been seven hundred and
sixteen times per second, making it the fastest spinning object ever.
NASA officially conferment Space has thrown its ass in a circle.
Speaker 1 (43:45):
Oh all these official NASA I just report the news.
I just don't read it.
Speaker 5 (43:50):
I documented it. I'd want to make sure that everybody
knows exactly what's going on. And lastly, Trump to attend
SpaceX Starships six flight tests. NASA is offering five thousand
dollars to any onlooker who will push him in, shut
the damn door, and throw the rocket key in the
dead center of the Bermuda triangle. It doesn't matter either way, honestly,
(44:11):
all jokes aside.
Speaker 1 (44:12):
This is the news.
Speaker 5 (44:12):
But I'm happy for them because Elon and Trump can
finally have sex in peace.
Speaker 1 (44:17):
All right, this has been Space. Thank you so good,
so good claps around the world. Thank you.
Speaker 4 (44:32):
Wow, well, what an absolute pleasure to have you here
sitting with us.
Speaker 2 (44:36):
Are we still recording?
Speaker 1 (44:37):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (44:42):
I have a song name Mimi Planeta. Oh yeah, it's
very hot, so yeah.
Speaker 1 (44:52):
Wow, I love it. And that's what fields the SSL
that you mixed the song on contigure that Oh yes,
please right now. Nothing well, in.
Speaker 4 (45:07):
Honor of ASMR, I just want to say that I'm
really glad that our listeners have an opportunity to get
to know you.
Speaker 1 (45:15):
Better because you're pretty cool.
Speaker 5 (45:27):
Alright, this has been an amazing episode and it's been
a real privilege to have you here with us on
the couch.
Speaker 6 (45:35):
So thank you.
Speaker 2 (45:37):
I'm very honored to be here.
Speaker 3 (45:39):
And I wanted to say that I saw you performing
in New York City many years ago. It's right, I
was in front seat, and when I saw your performing.
Speaker 2 (45:49):
I was like, well, uh, star is born.
Speaker 3 (45:53):
And you were doing the thing with the with the
radio and everything, playing all the instruments.
Speaker 2 (45:57):
It was really inspiring. And it's kind of like seem
to be being able to be here now. And although
that I.
Speaker 3 (46:03):
Don't know you, yeah very much, I do know that
you have an amazing talent for writing songs, and I
cannot wait for us to write amazing songs together and
to see that Butterfly be coming and what it's gonna
become in the next years.
Speaker 2 (46:17):
And I feel like you guys are.
Speaker 3 (46:18):
Very lucky to have each other and are I'm very
happy if you don't invite me too. Whenever you guys
get married, you're gonna you're gonna.
Speaker 5 (46:29):
The realty from the soul. And you're right, we haven't
known each other that long, and I appreciate you being there,
But there's something that the three of us or the
two of you, or something's gonna happen the two of
you or the two of us. Hey, I'm fans, so
I can't want to see what happens.
Speaker 4 (46:43):
Hello.
Speaker 2 (46:43):
Grammy nominated for some writing.
Speaker 1 (46:45):
Oh my god, no no, but I do feel like
the Grammys are fun.
Speaker 5 (46:51):
But we have stories to tell and it would be
fun to tell them together and learn more about each other.
Speaker 1 (46:55):
Thank you for flying with us before we de orbit.
Speaker 5 (46:58):
And you guys are sadder for missing these three hot
pitches that you have been listening to and or seeing
and or both because you love us that much. Ella,
tell us what you're up to, and tell everybody where
to find your new ship that you've been creating introvertedly
in your room.
Speaker 3 (47:11):
You can find me on Instagram and Labrick Music. You
can find me on Spotify as Labrick Lindore Sane.
Speaker 2 (47:17):
It's just the old stuff. So don't go there, please, And.
Speaker 3 (47:20):
I know you're gonna go there, but yeah, absolutely, we're
trying to get more listener to.
Speaker 2 (47:24):
So support Labrick now.
Speaker 5 (47:25):
There, you go, support Labrick now. Trust me, you're not
gonna regret it. She's a fucking badass and also support
your girls at in Our Own World pod at in
our Own World pod on instept or are your socials
and only fans just kidding?
Speaker 6 (47:36):
Don't go there, but do it? Why not?
Speaker 1 (47:38):
We'll see you next flight. Bye, love you, I Love you.
Speaker 2 (47:46):
Launch.
Speaker 4 (47:47):
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Speaker 1 (47:51):
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Speaker 4 (47:53):
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