30. Tefi Pessoa the Terrestrial

What a better way to end season two than with the internet's very own big sis, Tefi Pessoa? Known for her razor-sharp wit and impressive deep dives into pop culture, Tefi is one of Miami's funniest exports. Double-check your oxygen supply because you might be gasping for air. We're diving into fashion, love, girlhood, gayness, family dynamics, misinformation, celebrity couples, and of course, the 305. And for the grand finale? A game that predicts the future to put Tefi's strengths to the test, and quite possibly the very best Space News segment yet. Thank you for hitching a ride on the IOOW Mothership for this wild journey. We love you. Prepare for docking.

Featuring: Estefania Vanegas Pessoa

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:05):
I hate you the same. Let's go to man one.
Ready for winding.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
Launch Ladies, Germs, Germans, Germans, Welcome to the last episode
of this amazing season in our own world. I can't
tell you how much we've enjoyed having whoever has been
flying with us flying with us. I know anti gravity

(00:45):
gives you diarrhea, but deal with it, baby, because we
have given you some incredible conversations, and today is no
exception at all. We have a woman who not only
is a cutie, a cutie that Gem may have a
crush on. We'll talk about later. Don't help me, I'm sorry,
but she is intelligent, uses her voice for good on

(01:09):
social media. Has been called TikTok's little sister, No big sister,
Big sister.

Speaker 3 (01:16):
Little big sister.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
May want a career in music, but has yet to
do so. And it is an honor and privilege to
have you sitting next to us. The incredible Teffie Puzzle.

Speaker 3 (01:34):
I I'm dead.

Speaker 2 (01:36):
I know you're gonna love you.

Speaker 4 (01:39):
Guys have thought of everything at you.

Speaker 2 (01:41):
I'm good.

Speaker 3 (01:42):
We're an alapada, Steffy, So I waited to tell you this.
Actually when you're like, this place is so interesting there's
like a I don't know what's the appropriate term for
this trap house. Okay, yeah, no, oh, yes, there's a
trap house a few doors down. But there's also wait,
trapasses drugs. Yes, okay, now what's women?

Speaker 2 (02:05):
Oh, brothel?

Speaker 3 (02:06):
A brothel? Okay, rights it is It is camouflage as
a Nicaraguan food place.

Speaker 4 (02:12):
Nika thun you so much that stray. I know, well,
I think this I was telling you, like, that's where
the coolest shit happens. That's where, like you know, when
you watch the documentaries about New York in like the
eighties and seventies, like all of this like incredible ship
was made through people trying to find like affordable, cheap

(02:33):
housing and like making it their own. And I can't
even explain to people what this looks like, like what
this place looks like. Like you can really tell that
you guys are just so gay.

Speaker 3 (02:45):
Yeah, I was gonna say, are you sarty? I need
to know where my life is.

Speaker 4 (02:50):
What the interior design is really something that no heterosexual
suffering person could ever come up with suffering ever ever,
Like you guys are like the like Martin Short and
Father of the Bride.

Speaker 3 (03:03):
Oh oh gee, this one did you watch the New Ones.
Of course you know that's Emily in the beginning.

Speaker 2 (03:09):
Yes, okay, of course being straight for the only time I.

Speaker 3 (03:12):
Saw the hair. So guys, stop fighting.

Speaker 2 (03:21):
Depie. We have admired and laughed by your side for
a while and we're not going to let you off
easy today. Okay, because not only are we saying goodbye
to our listeners.

Speaker 4 (03:32):
I can't believe that in the last episode of season
two because my publicist was like, well, they have to
submit it to iHeart and I was like, that's so
crazy that I Heart is on their ass like that,
it's our literal last episode.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
So crazy.

Speaker 4 (03:44):
I thought, like every single thing you do like iHeart
is like.

Speaker 3 (03:46):
No, no, no, no, no, no. You know what, they're
actually super lean.

Speaker 4 (03:51):
I've only heard amazing thing.

Speaker 2 (03:53):
Great reference. Okay, let's get into it. Or oh okay,
so your first.

Speaker 4 (04:04):
Job was as a stylist for Martinez. Okay, and I
went to I met you when you were like ten.
Oh what it was like ten years ago. I went
to your house and you have that huge picture of
your parents with Obama in the house.

Speaker 2 (04:18):
I'm so put a pin in them. Okay, we'll get
to meet she later, but wow, small world.

Speaker 5 (04:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (04:24):
By the way, we under the table, we've made correlations. Yes,
you guys will know later, we'll get there.

Speaker 4 (04:32):
However, I've never told anybody that I went there. Oh
the only thing I went to Gables. Oh, I know
when I never say it because nobody ever knows. Oh,
that would be like the first time I ever tell you.

Speaker 2 (04:42):
Excuse me. We have an exclusive.

Speaker 4 (04:46):
Besides the class of two thousand and eight.

Speaker 3 (04:50):
It's in Miami.

Speaker 2 (04:51):
Thing.

Speaker 3 (04:51):
It's like a subculture. When you say the name of
the school, people.

Speaker 4 (04:53):
Are like, yeah, they think, like, oh, you do drugs.

Speaker 3 (04:56):
I'm like, I tried. I tried so many times. It
wasn't crazy. Such a crazy, crazy school.

Speaker 2 (05:02):
Get back on track, horse, all right, here we go.
Your first job was as a stilist, Yes, assistant assistant
assistant silist. Okay, So number one, I want to know
if you learned anything that transferred to what you do
now see from that job. And number two, is there
a current fashion trend that you don't like?

Speaker 3 (05:24):
Probably?

Speaker 4 (05:24):
Yeah, definitely. What I learned is I Martinez is like
a second mom to me.

Speaker 3 (05:30):
No way, Yeah, she's I worked with it.

Speaker 4 (05:33):
So I worked at there for a very long time
and we worked a lot with Uno on Telemundo, but
then also she did all the people in hispan So
like Gloria, we worked with a lot of everybody in
the in the Latin American industry, but I was not
very familiar with them because when you were a teenager

(05:54):
in Y two K, you were trying to be white,
Like you're trying and it's weird saying white because in
it's so when people were like when I'm like, oh,
that's some white people. Shit, when I'm trying to say
it's like its sole ringo, but like it doesn't translate
well because it can be like that's so American because
I'm American and I'm also a white Yeah, so like
it's just but during that time, I didn't know any

(06:17):
of these Latin people because I was desperately trying to
be as American as possible. And that's like the issue
that a lot of teenagers I think have with Miami.
It's like trying to be both, you know, how can
I be like the old Sins but also, like Sophia
would got out like between guess what I did neither.
I tried so hard. I was like at Victoria's secret,
like the best push up bra the best one, but

(06:41):
it's fine. So I did learn a lot from her
because she is someone who ima. I just spent New
Year's with her, like last year. I mean, I can't
believe it's gonna be New Year's again. But at her
house in Cartagena, and she's still the same. She never gossips.
She's always telling me she never gossips. I know she
knows tea, like I know she knows tea, and I'll

(07:03):
be there when the tea is happening, and later in
the car, I'll be like, can you believe that happened?
She goes, I have no idea what you're talking about.
You are so incredible and like, so she's taught me that,
like stay in your fucking lane, like do mind your
business on set, And I've seen it happen where like
somebody who used to do hair is now like a
director on set, and she always gets that job because

(07:25):
she's so professional. She is someone who loves what she
does and she has created built her own life and
she never takes no for an answer, and that always
fucks with me because I'm like, oh, well, if Aventura
closes at nine and it's eight, I'm not going to go,

(07:47):
she shows up a nine thirty pounding on the door.
She gets that bitch return okay, Like she just doesn't
take no for an answer. And if they if if
you know, if you need roller skates with like a
fucking fringe on them.

Speaker 3 (08:01):
She gets the hot glue gun. Yeah, she doesn't say no.
You know. See it's incredible wardrobe rooms.

Speaker 4 (08:06):
Yeah it well, I used to have to organize as punishments.

Speaker 2 (08:12):
Because you have that in common. Jem is an incredible stylus.

Speaker 3 (08:15):
Too, So thank you. I just love when you do
that to me, you know, you know, super sarcastically. She
like me like a Michelle Star chef and be like,
my girlfriend's a chef.

Speaker 4 (08:23):
And I'm like, I mean that, well what do I'm okay,
Like I think she is manifestation for you.

Speaker 3 (08:30):
Oh thank you.

Speaker 4 (08:30):
You know somebody has to do it for you. Somebody
has to do it for you. Yeah, and you're a leo.
You love that.

Speaker 3 (08:36):
Shit in the right places, in the right places I
do and other ones.

Speaker 4 (08:40):
Well, I think for me whenever somebody says things like
it's hard for me to say thank you because I'm like, no,
I have so much more to do, Like, don't like yeah,
when people are like she's done this, this and this,
I'm like, but wait, just like give me a minute,
because then I'm going to do it. And but we
have to be able to say thank you, because I
think fifteen year old me or like seventeen year old

(09:01):
me at whatever, the high school, the high school, the
high school, would have been so pumped. She'd be so
pumped at little things like if I told her like
Paris Hilton follows you, she'd be like, where, I can't
explain around and tell you around now, but she see
like those little things, like she would go bald.

Speaker 1 (09:21):
You know.

Speaker 4 (09:22):
So if seventeen year old Jero was like, I have
a girlfriend that thinks I'm a Michelin star and a
fantastic Stilace, she'd be like fuck yeah, right, yeah.

Speaker 2 (09:31):
Thank you baby, You're welcome before I pass it off
to you. My last question for that was where do
you shop for your clothes?

Speaker 3 (09:38):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (09:38):
Everything is vintage, love that except for everything, yeah, thrifting,
But except there are certain things that I always buy new,
and those are like good shoes, like these are tabbies
and you can tell I've had them for like two
months and I only wear them if I could wear
them to the gym. I would wear them. I wear
the shit out of them. And there are some things
that I think about, like my nieces or nephews one day,

(10:01):
or like if God willing have children, or like my
godson and my god daughter, my god person, like whatever
want Like this would be sick, except all of my
purses have nail glue in them, so that like fucking sucks. Well,
I mean, oh right, you know, like she is always
falling off off. But everything is vintage in my every

(10:21):
time I go to a new city, it's my first Google.
It's like, where the best vintage store here? But I
love like old people, like a big if it looks
like a Scottish man smoked a cigar in it, I'm
fucking I love an XL coat like Daddy loves me.
Like a big, big XL coat. I get, like all

(10:41):
my purses gro I went to Ireland and there's this
one girl, it's lose Lot, and she's like, had all
these old purses, and every single purse you opened it,
I could smell the cigarette and I was like, I
want all of them. Yeah, bring them home with me,
a story to them, and stuff for me is just
the repetition of old trends, you know what I mean.

(11:04):
Like I I'm like the bows that you were doing
on the Everything is old. Like I'm waiting for the
hobo bag to have like the little sequence the big
sequence on them. It's coming back. I'm waiting for it.
The velvet juice to tour bag is like coverage.

Speaker 3 (11:22):
I'm dying for its coming back. Did you see in
the butt? Oh?

Speaker 4 (11:26):
Everything is coming back, and I now understand.

Speaker 3 (11:29):
Like Sidekicks, I hope Sidekicks come back. I could do
with a little technology shift.

Speaker 4 (11:34):
I could deal with a phone that was a little different.
Now I just do like crazy covers, Like I'll get
a cover that's like it's a duck bill. I like that,
you know, and I wear for like an evening or
like some of them have like the handle on it,
so it's like a prayer. Like I love all that
stuff because we don't have we used to have like
a phone for everything.

Speaker 3 (11:50):
Thinks. I love that, thank you.

Speaker 4 (11:56):
I think when it comes to style and like right now,
it's so weird because when I was growing up, everything
had to be like the same, and now that those
trends are coming back, we still have like our millennial
like gen Z twists on it where it has to
be like about me, like everything has to be about me,
like everything has to have my twist on it, like

(12:17):
my Yeah. So it's interesting to see these things come
back but still have it be Like I guess it's
about social media too, like we have pages dedicated to
like our faces and our interests, so what we wear.
We're just accustomed to everything being like a reflection of ourselves. Yeah,
for sure, and I love that. At the same time, though,
Costco used to have juicing a tour for law suits

(12:38):
and I miss maveragey and now they're coming back and
dollars that girl on deep pop, You British bitches on
deep pop are funding. It's erroneous. Your prices are erroneous.
You know the f FC UK shirts, oh you beats
or whatever, seventy fucking doll hairs. You guys are disgusting.
I'm calling the police, I hope you. What's it called

(13:00):
in London? A barrister gets your lawyers up, gets it
fucking crazy. And then one day, one time I ordered
this Betsy Johnson like ballet flat or what the this
like little shoe? She sent me a bunch of paper
towel in the fucking box, you will see. You will
never see heaven, but you will see the inside of
a prison cell when I fucking find you.

Speaker 3 (13:23):
How could she to play with my emotions? Like the
trends are coming back.

Speaker 4 (13:26):
I'm trying to stay vintage, trying to like fucking like
not add more shit into the world taking people's haunted
ass ship. Yeah, those purses are fucking.

Speaker 3 (13:33):
Haunted a thing? Do I get what thing? It's what
we call when you go into a vintage story and
it's like that feeling like this is all yeah, this
is like the humans.

Speaker 4 (13:43):
It's a feeling of death call it. But it's like
it's like a yeah, it's definitely you know what it
feels like. It just feels like stories, like all these
stories are around.

Speaker 3 (13:52):
What do you do with a vintage EIM when you
first buy it? Because I will bottle some of the
funk out of that ship? What do I do?

Speaker 4 (13:56):
I put it in my house and I say, if
you bother me, I swear to the other day every
time I go to LA. Every time I go to LA,
it's haunted as fuck every single fucking room. And I'm
just a little girl. I'm just a little girl. So
the last time that I was in La, I was
in Culver and I don't even know where the fuck
that is, but it was really nice. There's a year

(14:17):
horn that fucking the oh oh oh yeah whatever.

Speaker 3 (14:21):
Like people the grocery store throw all the food.

Speaker 4 (14:24):
What valet shopping is not a pleasure. There seventeen dollars
per water. Crazy, it's like five dollars. But Disney prices,
that's what it is. It's disney World prices.

Speaker 3 (14:36):
Anyway, I'm glad you said disney World, not Disneyland. We
have the better castle, Yeah, we do. We have the
better castle.

Speaker 4 (14:43):
The other castle in LA is the size of things.

Speaker 2 (14:44):
Rash, we rash.

Speaker 3 (14:46):
This is ridiculous.

Speaker 4 (14:47):
Have a little pride, Have a little pride. But anyway,
in La, the hotel rooms are always fucking haunted. And
this time I was working like sixteen hour days and
I was so tired. I jump what will I'll be
watching the microwave go to zero and I'll still jump.
So that's like how I am I And I see
my bathroom door twist open and go like this mmm,

(15:11):
no like that, And I'm so tired. I was coming
home literally literally like I'm going to get so then
I was getting home at like eight pm, and then
I would have to get up and be on set
at like six.

Speaker 3 (15:26):
So I was tired as fuck this time.

Speaker 4 (15:29):
Usually I'm just like all this stuff. I woke up
and I said, I have to be on set in
four hours. You're really pissing me off. You really have
to let me go to sleep. And the door went
em And you know, I said that because if my
friend told me that in eighth grade she had this
ghost in eighth grade. She was like, I'm already like

(15:49):
thinking about college's like an overachiever. Okay, She's like, I'm
already thinking about college. I'm in my SAT prep shit whatever.
She's incredible, and she's like, we had a ghost there
that didn't let us live that they had. Do you
remember those stereos that had the three discs and he
put in the CD and then.

Speaker 3 (16:05):
It would rotate, And I thought it was that was
cool technology. I don't get it.

Speaker 4 (16:12):
We have Nintendos in colors, we have rotating disc This
is crazy. And then she said that in the middle
of the night she would hear her serials go and
they'd start blasting music and like, what would it play?
She's like, that's not important. I'm like, what would it play?
She's like share, Like tell me, but I love share.
I swear to share. I would do anything for but

(16:35):
she she said that she would like go blasting, and
then the doors would start slamming and the ceiling fan
would go like crazy, crazy crazy, and then her and
her moment like during the morning would run out of
the house crying, like crying on the lawn. I was
so nuts, and then like poultry guys, shit, like the
furniture would rearrange. And then she said one day, one
before one of her finals, she sat up. She goes,
I have finals in the morning, and it never happened again.

(16:57):
She goes, hot the fuck up, Shut the fuck up.
I'm so tired of school. I can't fucking learn anything.
Fuck you and just stuff.

Speaker 3 (17:05):
I believe wow, stand up to your bullies, even the
spirit form.

Speaker 4 (17:08):
And that's in that moment, I was like And also
I was sleeping in like one of those like nightties
that's like a tank talk. So you wake up and
like all your tits are gonna all four tits all.
It's just the most annoying thing. So I'm like barely,
I'm like blue from the lack of oxygen. So I
wake up, I'm like, I have to tits out, I
have to get up for fucking hours.

Speaker 3 (17:29):
And that was it. Did you ever do the bracelet trends?
You notice how I go like this because you know
that they were like from here to hear the rubber bracelets,
not the rubber bracelets before that.

Speaker 4 (17:38):
Oh like the landyard, like the cloud French of bracelets
and all that stuff.

Speaker 3 (17:41):
Yes, yeah, I just when you were talking about suffocating
in your sleep, I just remember how I would like
lose circulation in.

Speaker 4 (17:47):
My hands and they would because I would sleep with
them because well you have if you shower with them.
I left them on for years. If you shower with
them over and over again, you go into the pool
and you go into the ocean, they're gonna hold onto
moisture and they're gonna start to mold, allegedly, And.

Speaker 3 (18:01):
That's what my friend said. My friend for suing, you
had like twelve years old, like smelly for arms.

Speaker 4 (18:09):
Like sixteen. Oh, like, why won't anybody talk to me now? No,
it's just got to the point where I would go
to Columba every summer and we would go to like
the artisanal fairs and get like a bunch of shit
and it was made out of like well fucking cow
hair and stuff like the good stuff.

Speaker 3 (18:23):
No, no, my shit was plastic.

Speaker 4 (18:25):
Oh mine was not mine? Why you don't want to
see a picture of it?

Speaker 3 (18:29):
I do, come on, bring it out here we go
and give it to me.

Speaker 4 (18:32):
Yes.

Speaker 3 (18:33):
And I also it's very obvious that I used to
cut my own hair.

Speaker 4 (18:37):
Not bad ass, terrible. It was not bad ass. Oh
this is me this morning putting out my makeup. Oh yeah, beautiful.
But yeah, that's the trends of the I see people
doing it now too, with the bracelets and shit. I'm like, you, bitch,
just want to be me so bad? You just want

(18:58):
to be you, but just could never I'm fifteen.

Speaker 3 (19:01):
Here, Yes, those are exactly that's the bracelet it.

Speaker 4 (19:05):
I don't know if I can sugar setting it in.

Speaker 3 (19:07):
You did you do the skinny jeans with the vans, bitch? Nobody?
It was the red wrap around the ankle, round hair
while you were you were seen.

Speaker 4 (19:16):
Oh my god, absolutely not. If you make me wan
lah it was seen then that was what I was.
I was seed light, seed light, seemed light light diet scene,
ight scene sugar. I was listening to Gwen Sefani and
Ashley Simpson like I was paid to fucking do it.

Speaker 3 (19:37):
I wasn't joying it. Jee wayo wantchee waita.

Speaker 4 (19:40):
That that record.

Speaker 3 (19:42):
It changed my whole life. I know, here's a really
dust record. Changed my crash.

Speaker 4 (19:48):
Crau baby and in your car and they were warning.

Speaker 3 (19:52):
Crash and I'm like, that's so crazy.

Speaker 4 (19:54):
Bumble cars, sex, sex, crash. I always think about that, like,
baw crash.

Speaker 3 (20:03):
My turn. You have a question for me? Oh yeah, Leo,
ask me whatever you want. You know what your moon
is in, Leo? So why are you coming from me?

Speaker 4 (20:14):
No, I'm meeting you in the middle.

Speaker 3 (20:17):
I'm exactly like that.

Speaker 4 (20:19):
Cheers, cheers, cheers.

Speaker 3 (20:21):
I could be a cancer. I cry a lot. I
cry a lot.

Speaker 4 (20:25):
If whoever is before or after you is people you
usually get along with, Okay, cool, yeah.

Speaker 3 (20:29):
Yeah, cancer some verbos. Cancer men are a whole other thing.

Speaker 4 (20:31):
Though, Well men, right, I don't care what sign you are.
If you're a horrible person, people are like I can't
like okay, one of my exes is a cancer.

Speaker 3 (20:40):
But they're not like female cancers at all.

Speaker 4 (20:43):
But they know it's because cancers have different sets of
insecurities and different wounds. So cancers, we really want to
be needed. We really want to be a person that
you lean on in your time of need. We really
want to be someone where you feel safe. But men
have to like ruin everything. So they so if you
don't take a cancer man's advice, they become patronizing. Yeah,

(21:03):
and they become condescending. It's almost like they resent you
instead of sitting down and looking at themselves in the
mirror being like why am I so offended that this
person doesn't take my advice? Like like what does that
say about me? Or like am I coming on too
strong or whatever?

Speaker 2 (21:19):
And it's you.

Speaker 4 (21:20):
It's all about you, kick.

Speaker 3 (21:23):
Like you know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (21:24):
So yeah, my friends are like, well my ex is
a cancer, right, So like I would read years ago,
I would read a horoscope and be like, cancer is
gonna have the best week I've reread to go.

Speaker 3 (21:35):
Yeah, no, no, you know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (21:39):
Stop wait and like you're gonna come into a lot
of money and like you're probably gonna.

Speaker 3 (21:43):
Blow it, You're gonna waste.

Speaker 4 (21:46):
Don't go to Turkey for your hair what like you
know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (21:49):
Okay, So speaking of you're talking about looking at things online.

Speaker 3 (21:53):
Mm hmm, I want to.

Speaker 4 (21:54):
Know trying to find that segue. I feel you, girl,
it's hard out here.

Speaker 2 (21:57):
I feel my job Okay for real, though, what do
you think is the best and the worst thing about
the Internet.

Speaker 4 (22:08):
The best thing about the Internet is I think we
have seen so many different ways of life that we've seen.
The way that we grew up is just one of
many options. I would never know the strife of Also,
growing up in Miami is a bubble. It is such
a It is a real bubble. Where I went to
New York and people were like, what's it like being Latina?

Speaker 3 (22:29):
And I was like, what are you like?

Speaker 4 (22:31):
Like? There are more Migias than Michael's where I come from, right, So,
I think the Internet. If it wasn't for the Internet,
I would never know the strife of people around the world.
It's definitely helped me with my empathy. I can speak
to things like the people who come from small towns

(22:53):
and are queer, people who are immigrants from other places
other than Latino America. When you talk to people who
are from the Middle East, Africa, we all have similar
expectations and pressures and there's a community in that, you
know what I mean, but also an appreciation of that
different languages spirituality, like the Catholicism is very much shame culture,

(23:17):
but then hearing about how other people have a relationship
with God that doesn't have to be so conditional and
it's still so freeing, you know what I mean, different
ways to eat even if you have have you ever
had have you ever had a technology issue and checked Reddit?
It's like it's a matter how niche it is. You know,
I can be like my cannon camera from nineteen seventy

(23:37):
six to like.

Speaker 3 (23:38):
It's the wire on the left. The Fu's so amazing.

Speaker 4 (23:42):
I have made some of the best friends of my
life through the Internet I have had I've had people
who have consoled me through the Internet. I think the
worst thing about the Internet is how quickly misinformation spreads
and how vicious people can be through a screen door. Yeah. Agree,
I think that's like the most vicious thing there's I

(24:05):
also feel like it's weird now in my position where
I have shared so much of myself with the Internet,
and like there are only few things that I won't
talk about. I don't talk about anything that has to
do with my like my brother, my sister's stories, like
those are their stories or anything that would like really
embarrass my mother. Like I don't talk about like anything
to do with like money, religion, politics that has to

(24:26):
do with them. My own Absolutely we can talk about it.
Talking about money still gets me weird because I'm an
American and you can never have enough. But I think
when it comes to their personal lives or their private lives,
I would never say, like this event affected my brother
this way, you know, like that's for him. But it's
funny because I feel like I am someone online who

(24:49):
I'm not Barney, but I do try. I am trying
to be the best person I can be. At the
same time, I still know who I am, right, So
I'm not going to let somebody just like tell me
what the fuck they think. I'm gonna sit, I'm gonna research,
I'm gonna read. But I believe you. And if a
community tells me that they're in need, I have no
reason to not believe them. However, you're telling me somebody

(25:11):
can just come online and make a video and say
I had a class with TEFFI ten years ago and
she's a terrible person. You have no idea who this
is you have you've they've never made that. No, But
I'm saying, like you see it online always people come out,
you know what I mean. So it's just weird to
see online like even my friends or whatever, they'll have
like one person and actually I.

Speaker 3 (25:30):
Did have somebody do that. Oh, I did have somebody
do that.

Speaker 2 (25:34):
Oh.

Speaker 4 (25:34):
And I saw you the other day at saw a
house and you were NIMU, No I did, I did
somebody did do that quiet as a mouse. And I
reached out to you and I called you and I
tested you and you didn't say anything. But it's crazy
that people will be like I knew it.

Speaker 3 (25:52):
I knew it.

Speaker 4 (25:52):
I knew it, And I'm like, you didn't even even try,
or I you. These people know so much of my face, right,
the people have followed me for a long time, and
I've shared so much parts of my soul, and then
one person can come along that you've never heard of,
never known, have never seen in your life and say
she's a piece of shit and be like I knew it.
I think that's the worst part of the Internet. It's

(26:12):
people are so easily empathetic, but so easily swayed, so easily,
and I think that's when people are like, how do
you balance the Internet? You don't balance it. If you
want to talk about real shit, you have to you
have to live your life and do real shit. You
have to leave your phone behind. My screen time is
one hour one hour time, So that's fire. Yeah, during

(26:33):
twenty twenty was eighteen. Bitch, Well there's nothing else to do.
But I think that's the thing about the Internet is like,
it's what a wonderful tool. But like anything in the world,
any system, any piece of technology that are good, there's
good and bad, and there's people who take.

Speaker 3 (26:47):
Advantage of it, you know what I mean. How you
use it, How you use it?

Speaker 4 (26:50):
How is this going to What kind of tool is
this for you? Is it going to be to divide
people or to bring people together? And sometimes when I
make a video, when when you're online and you're making content,
you have to see who's agreeing with you. If people
that you would never relate to or like or even
sit with are agree with you, maybe you got to

(27:12):
take that video, you know what I mean, Like, yeah,
I've done that before too, where like people are like, hey, listen,
she has a point, and I see it's like ooh,
I go and I'm like, no, you gotta go. I can.
I just want to formally apology that video starts, you know.
So I think the internet is just a neighborhood. The
internet is a high school cafeteria where there's no nighttime.

(27:35):
It's always in session. Yeah, so you just have to
kind of find your way around that, and people can hide.
That's the paperback, so people can hide. I don't like
that at all, Honestly.

Speaker 3 (27:45):
I've heard people talk about, like, oh, maybe we'll do
like you need your driver's license to confirm you are
who you are. That's a little that's a little. That's
a little strict. But I also would like love for
people to have to own their opinions.

Speaker 4 (27:58):
I have a friend, Yeah, there's a I read a
thread about her and it got very vicious, very fast
and very unfair. And she hired a forensic investigator and
she found who they were. I read it and she
posted their names.

Speaker 3 (28:15):
That is my dream.

Speaker 4 (28:17):
Yeah, Like, I get so many people who common things
that are like very personal or terrible or like but
they know me like that, you can tell that they know,
like they're so okay, that's like very personal. They'll leave
a comment and they'll be like I can't even like, no,
wonder your dad doesn't talk to you.

Speaker 3 (28:33):
I'm like, you know me, you know what I mean
to say that.

Speaker 4 (28:36):
For you to say that whatever, like you're trying to
hurt me, and that's something that would like hurt me
at like twenty, you know, and I'm twenty two. I'm
twenty two now and I'm twenty yeah. Yeah, and once
I get to buy alcohol, see me again. But that's
the thing where I'm like, when I find out who
the fuck you are, and then in my mind I

(28:57):
start to decide who they are. So then when I
see stream, like what's up, bitch, And.

Speaker 3 (29:01):
Then and was like, Hi, how are you?

Speaker 2 (29:03):
And I'm like, oh god, you never know.

Speaker 3 (29:05):
They could be nice to you to your face.

Speaker 4 (29:06):
But when you don't see people for a long time
and you assume them, you start to romanticize the villain
in them, and then you see them and then you
remember that's just someone's son. Yeah you know, So it
fucking sucks. And then I go back and I have
to write a poem because this water sign is.

Speaker 3 (29:21):
Like you're in the credit a writer. By the way,
Oh thank you. I read something that you posted recently.
And I remember like a couple of lines stuck with
me for a while. I don't know if you plan
on pursuing that, but I would absolutely buy anything you wrote.

Speaker 4 (29:31):
I am writing a book. My agent is very annoyed
with me because I refuse to send in pages because
it's in my journal and they're like type it and
I'm like, I gotta come. I just literally just write down.

Speaker 3 (29:46):
I used to journal a lot.

Speaker 4 (29:48):
It is the healthy It's like throw Have you ever
been so nauseous that you're like, as soon as you
step into the bathroom, it comes out. Writing is like that,
and then you're calm. Ben Affleck said that's what dating
j Lo was like before they out. He said that
it's after a purge and then and.

Speaker 3 (30:05):
Then you feel good. She's the good part and the
purge after the breakup.

Speaker 4 (30:09):
Oh but now they're here, all right.

Speaker 2 (30:24):
So one time I heard you say I want to
be someone you can share ten minutes with on the elevator.
Oh yeah, So what would those ten minutes look like
if you step in the elevator with toffee ten minutes
to me? Well, you said you want to share ten
minutes with me in the elevator. What are you going
to do to me?

Speaker 4 (30:47):
I am?

Speaker 1 (30:48):
I am.

Speaker 4 (30:48):
It depends. I am someone who like very much come
into you, come to the elevator and you're like, you say, hi, yeah,
I do. Unless we live in the same building, then
you don't. Then I don't.

Speaker 3 (30:58):
That's weird, well and shouldn't.

Speaker 4 (31:01):
No, Like in offices, when I go to visit other people,
I'm like happy when I live with them, I don't
want to. I don't know. It's a New York neighbor thing.
The elevator is a place where, like I think honestly,
whoever is in an elevator is either leaving or coming
to do something stressful that they had to do. If
it's not in a residential area, you know what I mean,

(31:24):
Like they're coming or going, and I feel like the
elevator is the only time where they get to like
think about what they're about to do, like whether go
to the parking lot, go about their day, or like
go into this office or whatever. And I just want
to be part of that.

Speaker 3 (31:37):
Yeah, it's a Leo moon in me.

Speaker 4 (31:39):
It's you know exactly, am I C.

Speaker 3 (31:45):
Why E L E V A t.

Speaker 2 (31:51):
Ovator? Oh?

Speaker 4 (31:53):
I said, mickle. I'm like, what's going on back leve
like smile, do you know where you are? Like the stroke?

Speaker 3 (32:02):
Do you smell burning toast?

Speaker 2 (32:06):
I don't know. Now I feel like i'd be nervous
to be in an elevator. I think so.

Speaker 4 (32:11):
Also, I think in New York when you because I've
been there for ten years, people are just stressed the
fuck out, and you know what, people were fucking lonely
in New York. The only times a lot of people
have roommates and the only times are ever alone are
like when they take a shower. But constantly they just
are being seen and not heard or interacted with or hugged.

(32:32):
I remember I was in New York and I couldn't
afford to come home. I wasn't hugged for like two years,
two years.

Speaker 3 (32:38):
I know, why did you go to New York?

Speaker 4 (32:40):
I was working in fashion, well I wanted to. I
started working as an intern for Kelly Catron at People's Rev.
It was a fashion pr agency and they were on
MTV for a while.

Speaker 2 (32:53):
It's where like, yeah, that the lady of the black
Hair that was on that show when show was at.

Speaker 4 (32:58):
The Hills, the Whitney Whitney worked Kelly Kelly Catron and
she was also a judge for America's Mary's Model.

Speaker 2 (33:08):
That that's where I know her from.

Speaker 3 (33:10):
Yep, so I was.

Speaker 4 (33:11):
I worked for her. Do you she's like if you
have to cry, go outside, go outside or whatever.

Speaker 2 (33:16):
That she seems all mean. Yeah, I think it's her brand.
I don't think she'd be upset. She's not.

Speaker 4 (33:23):
I don't think she's as mean as she thinks she's.
I think she's just there's a way that people used
to do pr and it's evolved, and it's evolved because
of the Internet.

Speaker 2 (33:32):
It's true.

Speaker 4 (33:33):
Thinks she's stuck back there, you know, and that's okay.
But yeah, people in New York they're like barely ever
interacted with. So I feel like sometimes in the elevators,
like the only time that like maybe they'll be spoken
to all day, not like spoken at, you know, right,
And also they have to get on the train later.
It's like hunger games in that bitch.

Speaker 3 (33:54):
And so you still live in New York. I still
live in here. I think it's changed a lot in
the last ten years. It has for all of I No,
after after COVID, after yeah, some shit happened.

Speaker 4 (34:04):
It's people left and now I would I think everything
is circular, and I will say, even though I am
a content creator, I think influences have ruined everything. And
my one friend posted years ago saying, if you want
to move to New York and you want to just
party and like work at AG ANDM, please don't move here.
Like if you're a creative you know what I mean.

(34:25):
If you want to be like a legendary person, if
you want have like a dream, please move here.

Speaker 3 (34:29):
Yeah, but don't you used to be that place I move.
I moved to New York very briefly for almost a
year in twenty twelve. And that was my dream since
I was a little girl, was to like go live
in New York.

Speaker 4 (34:39):
Yeah, me too.

Speaker 3 (34:40):
And I was there, but then I was dating somebody
who was going to school in Boston. I ended up
moving back home. Did back home to Boston, to Miami. Oh,
to Miami, Okay, not to Boston. I wasn't Boston for
a little bit. Ooh you don't like it.

Speaker 4 (34:57):
I think this Boston is just too fucking cold. I love,
it's too cold. The people and whatever are great. Yeah,
it's just it's like Chicago.

Speaker 3 (35:07):
In January.

Speaker 2 (35:08):
I have but I also lived in Boston for years
so it's cool.

Speaker 4 (35:12):
It's there's no reason I should pantyhills, workout leggings and jeans.
First of I look like the Michelin man. No one's
gonna want to kiss me. And it's just too fucking
cold the aquarium though.

Speaker 3 (35:24):
In Boston it's fucking sick.

Speaker 4 (35:27):
They got seals outside and ship it's fuck.

Speaker 3 (35:29):
It's a cool It's a cool place to be when
you're like in your early twenties or like going to college,
just because our culture so many right, so many young people.

Speaker 2 (35:36):
Yeah, you're all kind of like I like Boston more
than New York.

Speaker 3 (35:39):
Sorry she does, that's crazy. Yeah for me.

Speaker 6 (35:42):
You see when you're like, oh, if you don't want
to do this still movie, New York is like a bug.

Speaker 3 (35:47):
You either have it or you don't want me to
move to you don't want me there.

Speaker 4 (35:50):
I think New York is like the only place where
people aspire for labor. Still, when people are like, what's
your dream job, and people are like I don't dream
of working me, I'm like, oh, okay, I'll tell you.
I mean like, that's like the only place left, you
know that where people like truly. Even when I go
to La people are like I just want my dreams
to come true. But I don't want to like like

(36:11):
my friends are like, oh, if I get like two
brand deals a month, I can pay my rent. I'm like,
what if you did four?

Speaker 3 (36:16):
What if they did for you know?

Speaker 4 (36:18):
And That's where I'm at. I just want to do
everything and anything. I don't think it's my last life,
but I think this is my life where I have
the most luck. So for my next life it might
be different. So I want to experience it in this way,
so bringing it out so maybe in my next life
I can carry some of that wisdom in me and
like change my stars in some way, you know.

Speaker 3 (36:39):
I like those aspirations.

Speaker 2 (36:40):
I'm going to show the stars up.

Speaker 3 (36:45):
The old sphinx. She really would say that.

Speaker 2 (36:49):
Okay, you have a lot of aspirations, one of which
is that you had my preferred super Bowl this year
because Rihanna, I don't know you.

Speaker 4 (36:58):
You had a super Bowl super Bowl Yeah, but I
thought you meant like seeing Rihanna live.

Speaker 2 (37:02):
No, No, you were my preferred super Bowl.

Speaker 3 (37:04):
Oh my goodness.

Speaker 4 (37:06):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (37:06):
So, speaking of which, you asked a lot of questions
to your friend who you know you were not put
under the same microscope. One of the things was she
asked you who you would be starstruck by, and you
did say Michelle Levon, Robinson, Obama, Yes, and stefinitely Stephanie

(37:27):
Lynn Nix. So what I want to know is a
that was quite a few months ago. Have you met
either of.

Speaker 3 (37:35):
Those Michell Levon, Robertson Obama?

Speaker 2 (37:37):
No, I wish have you met either of them? And
number two? If and when you do, what's your opening
line to them?

Speaker 4 (37:45):
I love her so much and I just feel like
she's so she's just so strong and the way that
she speaks is so compassionate, but she has a message
like her messaging is so strong, but her heart comes
out of like her tongue.

Speaker 3 (38:00):
So what's your opening line to her?

Speaker 2 (38:05):
Come on?

Speaker 4 (38:05):
I think my opening line was would be like, you've
changed my life in so many ways.

Speaker 5 (38:10):
You and.

Speaker 4 (38:12):
You're Michelle, You changed my life in so many ways
and you really inspired me that one when I speak,
my like to put my shoulders, you know what I mean.
And then with Stevie Nicks, I want to tell her like,
there's never been a hard moment in my life. You
haven't been there with me. I haven't I've never not
brought you with me, you know, like, thank you so much.

(38:35):
You helped describe what love was to me before I
knew what it was. But you helped you held my
hand through heartbreak. You helped me heal through heartbreak in
a way where it's okay that happened, versus like some
kind of like bitterness or revenge story. It was like you,
you helped me like look at the moon differently. You know.

Speaker 3 (38:55):
It was really good. Don't do there correct fucking crying.
You're fucking kidding me. Oh, we love Chris, Team Chris, Chris.
We do love Chris. Okay A people who love Stevie

(39:15):
get it, you know what I mean. There's a lot
to love.

Speaker 2 (39:18):
Follow up question, what is your favorite decade?

Speaker 4 (39:22):
My favorite decade? I think I'm in the right decade
right now.

Speaker 3 (39:25):
No, right before, right before Roe v. Wade.

Speaker 4 (39:29):
We had more right favorite decade right before then, because
I was like, that'll never happen, maybe like the two thousands,
But I think nostalgia is a big motherfucker.

Speaker 3 (39:39):
It is, isn't it. But I do think it was
better times. I don't know the two thousands.

Speaker 4 (39:43):
Everybody's always gonna say that. I think the two Thousands.

Speaker 3 (39:46):
Confessions, Part two. No, I think I think.

Speaker 4 (39:49):
Fashion was weird back then because it wasn't the clothes,
it was the body. Like I wonder who I would
be if I'd never heard the words thigh gap, like
I would probably be President of the United States, or
like hip bones, like I was so busy trying to
look like a carcass like that I wasn't able to.
And when you disconnect yourself from food, you disconnect yourself
from culture. And that was a hard point for me

(40:11):
to realize, like I had chosen to disconnect from my
family and not sit down with them and enjoy my
food versus look like someone I would never meet that
has nothing in common with me, like these like girls
on TV, you know what I mean, Like I'm in Miami.
Why am I trying to look like I'm from Beverly Hills,
Like I'm those women I have nothing in common with.

(40:32):
But that was what was cool, right to, like be
an orange tanned carcass, you know. So it's fashion wise,
I think right now we have a lot more body neutrality,
where if somebody's on the cover of Vogue or swimsuit
like Sports Illustrated and they are not a size too,
I don't think anything, and like, what a beautiful person.

(40:54):
Right if you showed me that in fifteen, it'd be
a different conversation for sure. You know, it'd be about health.
Mind you, I was like failing science and not a
doctor health about their health, you know, like all this stuff.
So the two thousands for me are nostalgic in a
way where I was young and I was still really
excited and the world was still before me, Like I
wonder who I'm going to be and what I'm going

(41:16):
to be, and one day I'm going to leave this town,
you know. So I think I had a lot of
aspirations and I really believed in me, Like I would
think about who I am today, and I would like
I would tell her all the time, like I'm so
proud of you, Like I would really sit and think
about her, and she she had a lot more courage
than I did, for sure.

Speaker 3 (41:36):
You know, I think younger me did too, And I've
actually been asking myself recently why that is. I mean,
it does life just beat you down?

Speaker 4 (41:43):
No capitalism, like what you can afford is what you
can do, That's what That's what it is and until
you and it teaches you to shut up and be polite.
Who people are disgusting but have more money than you
because of opportunity, and fifteen year old you would say
fuck you.

Speaker 3 (41:57):
That's something that I've heard you talk about that I
really resonate with, Like you're the shittiest person in the world.
If you're mean to somebody in the service industy.

Speaker 4 (42:03):
You're disgusting.

Speaker 3 (42:04):
I think everybody should work in the service industry at
least for like a one to two year period, just
to go through that experience, because you'll never again talk
to somebody in the service industry.

Speaker 4 (42:12):
Whether it be retail or food and bed like something
where you depend on other people liking you and you
have to force a smile and your Have you ever
been to work heartbroken? No, you've never been heartbroken? Had
to clock?

Speaker 3 (42:24):
Oh, been to work hard? I thought that was the place.
I'm like, we're heartbroken. Alas new club write that down
New York.

Speaker 2 (42:32):
Times club is heartbroken.

Speaker 3 (42:35):
Everybody's ring.

Speaker 2 (42:37):
Did you see that meme?

Speaker 3 (42:38):
DC's hottest new club is the Senate Room? Oh my god,
no condom, no comments?

Speaker 4 (42:46):
Not only was that where laws are made? Irresponsible?

Speaker 3 (42:49):
Porno?

Speaker 5 (42:52):
Okay wait, yeah, of course I've gone to work, heartbroke,
having to go to work, her having to go to
work with a tummy ache, having being like if people talking,
can I get this in here in a large and
you're like, if I go home, yeah, if I go
back in the stocking room, I will cocka.

Speaker 3 (43:10):
I have a poop wave.

Speaker 2 (43:11):
You know about the poop wave?

Speaker 4 (43:12):
Uh huh oh you just have to see cramps, the cramps, yeah,
the poop.

Speaker 2 (43:14):
Yeah, you sweat.

Speaker 4 (43:15):
We call it the bubble guts. Oh yeah, we call
it the poop wave. But you have to sit and
be like, oh, it's gonna pass. It's gonna pass. Where
you're like this, like your toasts are like scrashing like this,
like yeah, you know they're going to work like that,
and then having people mad at you for poor customer service.
Bubble gut, bitch, go get your juicy couture perfume.

Speaker 3 (43:34):
Online and leave me the fuck alone. I have nothing
to do with the manufacturer. Also, and also in the
restaurant industry, people are like, I'm so mad my food
is taking forty five minutes, Like there's nothing to do it.
It's bad news.

Speaker 4 (43:45):
I shouldn't it now what? Like I think also the
idea of capitalism is also such a bummer because when
you're young, you're like, I'm going to own all these businesses.
I'm gonna have a jewelry line, I'm gonna have no no,
and then you realize the earth is rotting. I'm just
gonna put more shit in the world, like people like,
why won't you come out with a merch line. I
won't be able to sleep at night knowing I'm just
making more shit for someone to put in their donation

(44:09):
box to go out and just go into some fucking landfill,
like more and more and more shit, you know, And
then you want to create experiences for people. But then
if you don't make experiences for people, like for example,
like on TikTok, like you want to make videos or whatever,
you're not really like touching, like you want to be
out in the world.

Speaker 3 (44:28):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (44:29):
Like, so it's this twenty two.

Speaker 3 (44:30):
Are you a touchy feel like? Do I touch?

Speaker 2 (44:33):
Like?

Speaker 3 (44:33):
Do you touch other people? Yes?

Speaker 4 (44:35):
So many people got mad at me. Nobody wants your man.
I do not want your boyfriend.

Speaker 3 (44:38):
I'm staying hello, oh YouTube men, gotcha?

Speaker 4 (44:40):
No, And to anybody right right right, my friend dad,
don't speaking to my friend's dadd and he's so sweet.

Speaker 3 (44:47):
You see Drew Barrymore right, Yeah, fee, I'm fucking Drew
very more. Yeah, I'm really containing myself.

Speaker 4 (44:52):
Never mind, Sorry I think. No, I'm making love to
Drew very much. I was like, oh no, I mean
I'm fucking Drew No. The entire time I was talking
to my friend's father. We left, and he was like,
did you see where your hand was the whole time
she goes to you like this to my dad the
whole time talking to.

Speaker 3 (45:08):
But you met, well, oh yeah, of course.

Speaker 4 (45:10):
And they're Persian so they're like. So he was like,
and I was like, and then he was like, and
I was like this, you know, but it's also a
Latin thing. I guess it is to say hello, come
on now from sixth grade.

Speaker 2 (45:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (45:24):
I always tell people that's how you know you have
beef with the Miami bitch is when you go do
the kiss and then you make no noise.

Speaker 3 (45:29):
Whooo Okay. So when I moved, so, I actually have
always hated that I'm a touchy feely person, but like
with people that I like, I'm a very affectionate, physically
affectionate person with people that I like, but not with
people that I don't know.

Speaker 4 (45:42):
No, if I don't know you, if I don't like you,
I don't you tell me something touchy feeling. I'm like
you do like I can't.

Speaker 3 (45:47):
I don't and I don't want you in my personal space,
like if I've just met you. I actually despise the
Miami kiss. I don't.

Speaker 5 (45:52):
I do.

Speaker 3 (45:53):
I know I've said it. I said it. I despise
the Miami.

Speaker 1 (45:56):
I like it.

Speaker 2 (45:57):
I love it when I like you.

Speaker 4 (45:58):
I wish it was too Forehead. I know you.

Speaker 3 (46:03):
I was like, no, people Miami don't fucking get it.
And I only learned that when I move back here.
So when you'll go and you'll put your hand out
to meet somebody, they'll be like him. I hate it.
I'm like, come here, girl, slow dancing in a burning room.

Speaker 2 (46:18):
Ye hate it? Hate it?

Speaker 3 (46:20):
Eating love No, I love it. I love touchy touchiness.

Speaker 4 (46:22):
I think after COVID I did get a little weird
yeah about it because like, because if I get sick,
it cost me a check. Yeah right, And you can
say what you want about capitalism. Unfortunately I have to
pay my rent, so I think for germ wise whatever,
But when it comes to we have to touch each
other more. I think the germs have affected my physical

(46:44):
of touchness. But if I think I'm such.

Speaker 3 (46:47):
A lonely girl, like I'm you want to cuddle?

Speaker 4 (46:51):
No, No, I mean just like I'm a lonely girl,
and the way we're like, I'm thirty three, I'm the
only single one of my friends. I have the same
friends since middle school and my newest friends are like
from six years ago, seven years ago. I do not
I'm not a very trusting person, like I'll do this
when it comes to like coming to my house and

(47:13):
like sitting around with me, you have I un fortunate.
You have to know you for a long time or
you have to be let you know.

Speaker 3 (47:19):
How do I feel about my im? I'm so icky
about my house. I have to really first of all,
don't bring people out of know to my house. I
will literally ask you to leave. I have legos out.
She has asked you no, but I literally have. I've
been like can you leave. I've been like, oh, like
somebody shows up with somebody, somebody like, well, I don't know,
this is not the move. There's six other people here
and we have a vibe, and I will not let

(47:40):
you ruin that vibe, so please go home.

Speaker 4 (47:42):
Oh yeah, think I don't have I don't have the
nerve to do that. But my friends will never do that, right, Okay,
that's cool.

Speaker 3 (47:47):
That's different, Like, well, that person and I are friends anymore,
So maybe that's that was a sign they chose a
different vibe. They chose, they chose a different vibe.

Speaker 4 (47:56):
I also have I love building legos. We have legos
on the floor.

Speaker 3 (48:00):
I can't tell people like, you know how long it
took to build diagon Alley.

Speaker 2 (48:05):
I love.

Speaker 6 (48:05):
Also that's bad for them. I mean we were stepped
out a lego. I feel like the guys in home alone, like, wait,
you with legos out? Man, I can't remember. I can't
imagine twenty something year on me stepping on legos.

Speaker 4 (48:19):
But the vibe, I think, So that's the thing with
like physical touch too, is like it's so weird. Picasso
said a long time ago, not to me, wait, not
to me. He said that his whole life he was
trying to learn how to draw like a kid. Again,
So I do little things that would help inner child
me and I feel like I'm not trusting with that

(48:41):
version of me, and so like playtime or like getting
my hair done, or like those little things like doing
my own makeup, playing around makeup. Me and my cousin
we still learn like Darren's dance moves choreography. Do you
remember love that? Yeah, so those are little things that
I do to honor little me, you know. And the
more I do that, the more like protective I have

(49:01):
in herd like, the more lonely I am. And I
can feel myself like I can feel myself like liking
my company more. But I do miss you know, like
I do miss company, you know, But whatever, fuck them.

Speaker 5 (49:18):
I think.

Speaker 4 (49:18):
It's also like dating. I never expected to be like
thirty three in single mmm, but it's the best thing
that could.

Speaker 2 (49:25):
Have I heard you comment a little bit on that,
when you were saying that you were in a relationship
for a while and the relationship ended, and more than
saying goodbye to the relationship, you kind of have to
say goodbye to that future that you envisioned. Yeah, you
have to stay out to those kids, right, the kids,

(49:46):
the dreams, the trips, the whatever it is you imagine
with that person, because, like you said, if you feel
that way about your friends, then imagine a romantic partner.
Oh no, so I know It's a personal question because
I know your stance on children marries. If you had

(50:16):
to choose between having a child and a partner, or
would you choose I mean.

Speaker 4 (50:19):
The partner, because I choose the partner because they're an adult.

Speaker 3 (50:25):
You know you can take care of themselves.

Speaker 4 (50:26):
I wouldn't, I think the best. I look at my brother,
my sister, and I and even though my parents are together,
I know they loved each other and that's something that
I care, you know what I mean. But I would
like to have a child with somebody who I really
really love and have that conversation like do you want
to do this or do you want to go to
Italy every summer?

Speaker 3 (50:47):
Both are cool.

Speaker 4 (50:47):
Both are cool.

Speaker 2 (50:49):
Yeah, both are super growth are cool.

Speaker 4 (50:52):
But the idea of just having a kid to have
a kid is crazy. I think a lot of people
have kids because they want to see what they and
the person they love would look like.

Speaker 3 (51:02):
Like it's not even about like having care or I mean,
they end up pregnant a lot of the time.

Speaker 4 (51:05):
Yeah, and that's beautiful too, Like I think there are
no mistakes. But I think I'd rather have someone I
can share my life with and not someone I have
to like raise alone, even though that's some super that's
some superhuman shit, you know, like my mom raised us alone. No,
we had our grandparents, grands were in that bitch.

Speaker 2 (51:23):
Well you also said, which I thought was floored me
because you know, Brazilian Columbian, you got a lot of
fire in you, and you said that your family was
boringly functional.

Speaker 4 (51:33):
Oh and that's so normal.

Speaker 3 (51:35):
But how we were so that doesn't make sense. I
don't believe it.

Speaker 4 (51:38):
I meet people, I meet other people and they're like,
my dad did this, and then the car ran into
the house and my mom and no, no, no, and
then like a addiction substance of you psychologists, we would
fight over what time Saohigante was on, Like we were
so but we were functional because my dad wasn't there.

Speaker 3 (52:00):
That's why we were functional.

Speaker 4 (52:01):
If we were dysfunctional, when when someone doesn't know who
they are and they are raising children in their image,
it is dysfunctional, you know. And he was a very
emotionally reactive parent, and I think that's why I got
into pop culture a lot.

Speaker 3 (52:15):
I was telling my mom this the other day.

Speaker 4 (52:17):
I could feel me in charge of his moods, and
that's when that's when you're throwing distractions, like Dad, let's
let's play the Gap band, you know, like, oh, Dad,
let's watch True Lies. Like like I said, I was
managing his emotions. It was just it was so normally.

Speaker 3 (52:33):
Flat, Like I would have these friends, like I ran
away from home.

Speaker 4 (52:36):
I'm like, who's gonna give you hamburger helper? Like it's
so crazy, so normal. My parents never missed a parent pickup.
They everybody worked. My grandmother cooked like she she would
make she would cut theo in half and put brown
sugar in and put in the oven for after snacks. Yeah,

(53:00):
she went through a big pepsi one phase that was
dark time, you know, like so normal, but it was
because we cut out. My mom put out that dysfunction
quick for her. And whenever I visit him, it was
always chaos, chaos everything everything, something was getting something had
to be returned, somebody was mad at him, somebody there

(53:21):
was always whatever. He had a ping pong He had
a ping pong table in the middle of the living
room and okay, that was pretty fucking sickte I take
it back, But he.

Speaker 3 (53:33):
Was always moving.

Speaker 4 (53:34):
He was like it was always and then I'd come
back home and it was like my grounded, my average,
like you know, my mean medium and mode.

Speaker 2 (53:44):
Ah didn't mean oppressed, but you know.

Speaker 4 (53:47):
No, no, that's perfectly fine. I think when we're young,
we really romanticize this, like big life.

Speaker 3 (53:52):
Oh yeah, we see, we.

Speaker 4 (53:54):
Watched these movies.

Speaker 3 (53:55):
I thought I would have kids by now. Girl, can
you imagine I am?

Speaker 4 (53:59):
So they really get in the way of the pregame.

Speaker 3 (54:03):
I take my lucky stars all the time.

Speaker 4 (54:07):
I don't have kids. But you're gay, well yeah, well
I think also there are certain people you meet in
your life, whether they be friends, platonic, career wise, that
you cannot take with them, take with you the places
you were going.

Speaker 3 (54:18):
And I love it for a generation too, because literally,
just the generation right before us, it was still taboo
to imagine a life without children. You were an unfulfilled
woman if you weren't a wife and a mother. And
now we're able to just own like, maybe I don't
want to be a parent, and that's awesome.

Speaker 4 (54:34):
I will say my friends that don't have kids, no,
my parents' friends that don't have kids, I will say,
having kids does keep you young and keep you modern,
like it does, like they have no reason to, they
have no challenges. Yeah, their life is like their opinion
and what they're used to in period. Kids introduce you

(54:55):
to so much in the world and like what the
world is thinking and what the world is doing.

Speaker 2 (55:00):
Yeah, but more they challenge you.

Speaker 4 (55:02):
Kids challenge you.

Speaker 2 (55:03):
I challenged my parents.

Speaker 3 (55:05):
What kind of kid do you think I was?

Speaker 2 (55:07):
Every day?

Speaker 6 (55:10):
For sure?

Speaker 4 (55:11):
I mean, yeah, we pushed back and for sure, even
if you are you can be in the smallest town,
you can know the same people your whole life. But
kids will fuck your ship up in a good way.
Like if it wasn't for me, my mom would have
never had a gay kid, never had.

Speaker 3 (55:27):
Kids with tattoos. Like kids with tattoos.

Speaker 4 (55:30):
I remember my mom told me in the nineties that
her assistant had a tattoo on her foot and she
couldn't believe it. And now my brother's from the chin
to the pinky toe.

Speaker 3 (55:37):
Yeah, okay, he has. My mom is like, what is
hen tim?

Speaker 4 (55:41):
And I go, stay on, stop talking to my mom
about this, because then you explain that she calls me
about the tentacles. Likely that's the one thing that I
was like, And my mom said she didn't want kids.
I wanted to want kids, or she she'd been married
to my dad for a few years, Like, they married
twenty six and she.

Speaker 3 (56:00):
Had met thirty and she said that you're the firstborn.

Speaker 4 (56:03):
I'm the firstborn.

Speaker 3 (56:05):
Let's go. You guys will never play teacher.

Speaker 4 (56:15):
Man.

Speaker 3 (56:17):
Wow, we're we're four for four. We're the high school
girls girls match?

Speaker 2 (56:27):
Wait?

Speaker 3 (56:27):
What was fuck?

Speaker 5 (56:28):
What was two?

Speaker 2 (56:28):
Three?

Speaker 3 (56:29):
Yes? Stuff you girls. I'm like you like girls.

Speaker 4 (56:31):
Who doesn't, I mean, who doesn't for real?

Speaker 3 (56:34):
Grow up? For real?

Speaker 4 (56:35):
God?

Speaker 3 (56:36):
My one friend, my one friend says, oh, you put
me one time. Now you're grand. I'm like, that's kind
of how it goes. It doesn't go that way. Okay.

Speaker 2 (56:42):
Whatever I've been with men, I've been with women.

Speaker 3 (56:46):
Women are just we're pretty. We're so pretty.

Speaker 4 (56:49):
So sorry, sorry, I wish I wish the person attached
to Dick was a better person.

Speaker 3 (56:53):
Yeah, oh, why can't you just be cool? Fucking cool?

Speaker 4 (57:03):
I feel like men are wake up every day, we're like.

Speaker 3 (57:06):
Ruin her day. I also feel like men should be
bad from TikTok trends stope that men should be born
in jail and prove their way out.

Speaker 2 (57:18):
Please, you gotta earn your manhood.

Speaker 4 (57:24):
Literally, men can look in the face and say the
most heart wrenching intimate thing in the world and be like,
but we're just friends. It's fine. I'm running out of
place to talk about in therapy anyway, like.

Speaker 3 (57:42):
Literally, And but then women also like we're fucking nuts.

Speaker 2 (57:46):
Yeah, we're crazy crazy, and then sometimes crazy crazy like
my friends.

Speaker 4 (57:51):
God bless them. They'll send me screenshots of them and
their their partners and they're like, was this normal? And
I'm like, that's the most un sing.

Speaker 3 (58:02):
No, it's not normal.

Speaker 4 (58:03):
You are a poet.

Speaker 3 (58:06):
That is beautifully gisgastic.

Speaker 2 (58:08):
Yeah, yeah, bad, terrible, terrible.

Speaker 4 (58:11):
I'm like, okay, because I showed up to her house.

Speaker 3 (58:14):
You need to be in jail.

Speaker 4 (58:17):
I love you, you know, but yeah whatever.

Speaker 3 (58:21):
Yeah, anyway, parents, But were you ever a Steph?

Speaker 4 (58:29):
Yeah? You were a Steph to some uncles and some aunts.
It was like our thing.

Speaker 3 (58:33):
It was cute. Oh that's cute. But were you always Teffie?

Speaker 4 (58:36):
I was always tough? But later that name Stefania and
Stephanie had a friend that would call me because we
were toddlers, you can say Stefania, and from.

Speaker 3 (58:46):
We went from TV and then Tiffy O. Tiffy's cute.
I like, I really like Stefania, me too. It's a
good name, I know.

Speaker 4 (58:53):
When I you know, I don't like some money.

Speaker 3 (58:55):
When they're like, do you have any nicknames?

Speaker 4 (58:56):
I go no, it's Stefani or bust babe, wow, sorry,
or people like that's really hard for me. Do you
have another name?

Speaker 2 (59:08):
Well, my name is jem I don't know what you're
talking about.

Speaker 4 (59:10):
Geminy, imagine if you were a Gemini.

Speaker 3 (59:13):
I know not, but I did meet a man named
Leo who was a Gemini.

Speaker 7 (59:18):
Idayday ladies, I just met you, but a woman in
my but here's my number.

Speaker 2 (59:31):
Okay, when gem came into my life, she busted it open.
Because I've always been a little bit scared because I
grew up in this whole old Hollywood world where like
they teach you shut your mouth, be quiet pretty exactly. Well,
we're not pretty, but I'll be quiet.

Speaker 3 (59:46):
You are super cute and pretty, thank you.

Speaker 2 (59:49):
But anyway, the point is that I've kind of grew
up in this world where it's like, you know, it's
better to like shut up, and it's not a secret
that you use your voice and you use it loudly
and very well. And that's something that I admire from
people like you. And Jim who aren't afraid and have
kind of.

Speaker 3 (01:00:10):
I'm afraid, don't don't, don't miss understanding. I just yeah,
I'm pants.

Speaker 2 (01:00:14):
I don't know what. I guess what my hesitation is
is my lack of knowledge, because I feel like, as
we spoke about earlier, the Internet and misinformation and all
this ship, like I don't know what's true and what's not,
like straight up, so like what right do I have
to speak? Anyway? My point is that I admire that
about you and thank you. So my question is if

(01:00:39):
you could create a law that does not exist, what
would it be.

Speaker 4 (01:00:44):
You have to have a license to use internet? You
have to take a test every year.

Speaker 3 (01:00:47):
Oh so you agree with me?

Speaker 4 (01:00:49):
I agree with you.

Speaker 2 (01:00:51):
You have to have a license the internet or not you.

Speaker 4 (01:00:54):
Have no access to data or no access to Wi Fi.

Speaker 2 (01:00:56):
And what's the test look like?

Speaker 4 (01:00:58):
Test is like it's kind of like it's like a
driving test, like if you don't if you are too old,
you know, if you're too old to use, if you're
you have to take an IC side exam. So people
in their nineties, you know, they have their vision? Is it?
I think it's also like.

Speaker 3 (01:01:10):
I think there should be a shame, test the people.
But it's about being on the road. You need to see.

Speaker 4 (01:01:17):
So being on the internet, you have to have a
certain amount of critical thinking.

Speaker 2 (01:01:21):
Yes, okay, critical thinking, a little bit of shame.

Speaker 3 (01:01:24):
You like, you're not going to talk about something you
don't know. You're going to be quite. You have to
have a.

Speaker 4 (01:01:29):
License to have a gun. And the internet has killed
more people greed. Oh, you're right, you're right, So we
you should be You should have like bullying, like bullying
so much. What are your intentions here? What about the people?
I'm sorry, what about the COVID deniers? You have killed
more people? There's blood on your fucking hands. So to
tay to be on the internet, to have access to

(01:01:49):
Wi Fi and to have access to data. I need
to know how old you are, where you're from, what's
your background, where you've worked?

Speaker 3 (01:01:56):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (01:01:56):
You have to have a therapist, a psychologist. Oh wow,
thousand percent, because you have to in order to have
a weapon. You have to walk in somewhere and the internet.
You could be here with me right now.

Speaker 3 (01:02:08):
Of course it could be in my phone.

Speaker 4 (01:02:09):
I could bring you anywhere with me. I want to
know where your parents are from.

Speaker 3 (01:02:15):
I want to know.

Speaker 4 (01:02:15):
I want to know fucking everything. And that way, when
you get online, I know that what you're saying comes
from a place where, like you have two brains set
at least two brains at least. Yeah, they can't rub
together like fucking Nichols.

Speaker 3 (01:02:29):
You know, bro.

Speaker 4 (01:02:32):
Three days ago, this fucking person DM me and said
you I thought you were a nice person.

Speaker 3 (01:02:38):
You're a bitch.

Speaker 4 (01:02:39):
What are you talking about? She goes, you judge people
without knowing them, And I said, what do you mean?
And she sent me a video where I said, okay,
flat earther and she.

Speaker 3 (01:02:47):
Goes, there have been pilots. Oh, I saw that there
have been pilots that say that a.

Speaker 2 (01:02:51):
Fucking the Earth is flat.

Speaker 4 (01:02:54):
I was like, people are not this flat, and that's
none of my business. But there's no reason to like
to try to like come back the flat earth.

Speaker 3 (01:03:05):
What if it is flat?

Speaker 4 (01:03:06):
That's not my fucking business either.

Speaker 3 (01:03:08):
They know.

Speaker 2 (01:03:09):
My whole point is that.

Speaker 3 (01:03:10):
Like I can't get Galilee anything that's true or not right.

Speaker 2 (01:03:13):
So like people that are hyper offended by you opposing
their thought in and of itself automatically makes me disrespect
that thought.

Speaker 3 (01:03:23):
Like I guess because like I believe.

Speaker 2 (01:03:26):
In everything and nothing right, Like, I can't prove anything.
You can't tell me where the fuck we are right now? Yeah,
we're floating in a rock in space.

Speaker 3 (01:03:33):
I'm a little dust but I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:03:35):
So I don't believe the Earth is flat, but if
you tell me it is, okay.

Speaker 4 (01:03:39):
Well that's the thing too that I'm like, I can't
put you in a rocket. Where do you think this
argument is going? That's what That's what I'm like. I
do think it's I'm gonna say, oh, no, sorry, cook
it fucked, or are gonna say, oh, I'm so, I'm
so sorry that you feel this way.

Speaker 3 (01:03:56):
No, Like, I'm not Barney here aye go wait your
not no, I you know I get that a lot.
We have the same face. But people walked walked like
it's not I'm not.

Speaker 4 (01:04:09):
But I think like you can go argue with some
of the best minds and science about it.

Speaker 3 (01:04:15):
Me.

Speaker 4 (01:04:15):
That's when people want my opinion on stuff, I'm like,
I barely get into the right uber.

Speaker 3 (01:04:24):
It's like, I don't know what you want.

Speaker 2 (01:04:25):
Okay, regulate the Internet.

Speaker 3 (01:04:26):
I like that regulate the Internet, but also.

Speaker 4 (01:04:31):
If you have if you're gonna spread hateful shit, if
you have something that you rage. Porn is a big thing.
People don't even believe what they're saying. They just want
the clicks, They want the likes, you know what I mean,
Like people.

Speaker 3 (01:04:40):
Get on Twitter.

Speaker 4 (01:04:41):
I refuse to say, please get a group, yeah for real, off,
But when people on Twitter, they know that the more
clicks and stuff, they get money for it. You know.
So people will say things like desegregate schools.

Speaker 3 (01:04:54):
They don't mean that shit.

Speaker 4 (01:04:55):
They want you to interact, and it just causes this
huge commotion, and then you have these thing pieces and
then people who were like literally affected by that because
their grandparents like remember et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
And it's just so everything is so exhausting. Why can't
we continue to share animals that have unlikely friendships.

Speaker 3 (01:05:16):
I love the cows or the monkey and the kitten. Yeah,
the monkey and the piglets. Good recipes I watch. I
could watch recipes all day. I love street food. I
love street food from all over the world. I love
them doing their thing with all their little devices and
all their little sticks and all that. I want to
watch those things.

Speaker 4 (01:05:36):
Animals making art.

Speaker 3 (01:05:39):
That's what the internet is for. Stop, stop using things,
link me or leave me alone.

Speaker 2 (01:05:46):
You heard it here first animals making art.

Speaker 4 (01:05:49):
I you know what the best animal friendships Reddit? You
type in unlikely animal friendships.

Speaker 3 (01:05:54):
Bro, that's a I really like Reddit.

Speaker 4 (01:05:56):
I hate Reddit, Okay, I hate read it because of
the ship talk, except the ship talking about people is
like crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:06:03):
Like you see like people, I guess I don't do
those kinds.

Speaker 4 (01:06:06):
Like the housewives and stuff like that, like people are
like so do I read some of it? But I'm
homely human, you know, but I mean, like some of
it is just a little fucking crazy. However, ghost stories,
the matrix. Have you seen those glitchen the matrix where
like a person will say they put the batteries into.

Speaker 2 (01:06:25):
Yeah, and then it shows up somewhere.

Speaker 3 (01:06:26):
The conspiracy theories.

Speaker 4 (01:06:28):
Ghost stories like bro, the fucking big Foot stories on there.

Speaker 3 (01:06:33):
I'm like the or the Walmart one.

Speaker 2 (01:06:35):
I saw the bart Law. You know they're there. Maybe
people they are poisoning their spouses.

Speaker 3 (01:06:40):
Yes with bleach, did you see that navel? No way
putting ship in their food? Dog? The sixth sense with
the girl, I don't see the six cents?

Speaker 4 (01:06:49):
What are you?

Speaker 3 (01:06:51):
I've been trying to hide it from you. I really
have been trying to like not let.

Speaker 2 (01:06:56):
The only reason she's seen anything scary is because of me.

Speaker 3 (01:07:00):
The sixth sense.

Speaker 4 (01:07:00):
I see dead people.

Speaker 3 (01:07:01):
No, I haven't seen I know the reference.

Speaker 2 (01:07:03):
I haven't seen any dead people. You haven't seen Bruce Willis.
She hasn't seen anybody.

Speaker 3 (01:07:09):
If I told you all the Mary's I haven't seen,
you'd be so I don't get it.

Speaker 2 (01:07:13):
I made her watch Headwig.

Speaker 3 (01:07:17):
She's the greatest thing ever. Agreed. Agreed, we watched it
at your birthday.

Speaker 2 (01:07:21):
You're the best thing to ever having to meet. All right,
welcome back to in our own world, jem take it away.

(01:07:42):
I know that now we are on the latter half
of this amazing time with the freaking awesome Teffie Piso,
which my girlfriend now has a crush on, which is.

Speaker 3 (01:07:50):
Fine, let's go. I don't even like that you're saying.

Speaker 4 (01:07:55):
I if I leave a podcast and he has a
crush on me, I sulk all day.

Speaker 3 (01:07:59):
You don't trust me, trust me, Howey, you're leaving with
people that have a crush on you. I said you
were cute. I didn't say I had a crush too.

Speaker 2 (01:08:04):
Yeah, it's fine, but I'm just saying I don't know.
I have two very attractive women to my left and
my ladder left, and I ain't going trip. So before
we leave you guys today for our final are your
boots episode? Yes, they're not mine, the gems they are.

Speaker 3 (01:08:21):
I just had to say, is that number six?

Speaker 2 (01:08:24):
Before we leave you guys today on this amazing in
our own world flight. How's the anti gravity treating you? Okay?

Speaker 3 (01:08:29):
Why this is the best I've ever felt.

Speaker 2 (01:08:34):
Wait, don't speak too soon, because we're going to put
you to the test now. Okay, take it away, baby, Okay.

Speaker 3 (01:08:39):
So before before we do the games, and we're going
to do I think yours first, if that's okay, Okay,
you're good. Okay, they're both ours, but one was her
inception and one we collaborated. Chris neisum myself, okay, and
this is where I did some serious education. So I
really hope you're.

Speaker 4 (01:08:55):
Proud of me. Okay, I am. I'm already proud of you.

Speaker 3 (01:08:56):
Okay, thank you, thank you. That means a lot coming
from you. Before we do that, I have I have
a question, okay, And it'll be the perfect introduction to
this segment that we're gonna do because one of the
things that you're also known for are you're really, by
the way, very impressive deep dives on celebrity relationships, and

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so obviously I would be remiss not to ask you
because I know my answer, and I've always known my answer.
If you could put a famous celebrity breakup couple back together,
who would it be?

Speaker 4 (01:09:29):
Oh? Jack Nicholson and Angelica Houston.

Speaker 2 (01:09:37):
Wow, seriously, that's a deep cut.

Speaker 3 (01:09:42):
That was really deep. I almost don't want to give
you mine, or I'll give it to you. Rachel Bilson
at of Brody seven summer.

Speaker 1 (01:09:51):
She never came.

Speaker 2 (01:09:53):
That's what she said.

Speaker 4 (01:09:53):
That's what she said, and I believe her. Nobody lies
on their Nobody lies on that. Bitch.

Speaker 3 (01:09:59):
Damn, I don't know that if that's something I want
to tell you right.

Speaker 4 (01:10:01):
Now, lying about your you're not coming. I just don't understand.
I don't I understand how that could be difficult. I
just at that point I would I just don't understand.

Speaker 3 (01:10:12):
We leave. Yeah, please.

Speaker 4 (01:10:13):
However, if you've never done it, you love somebody, the
actual interaction is like six sex, crazy, sexy cool. I
just feel like all this energy, where does it go?
And then he does and you're like I hope you
think you're better than me.

Speaker 3 (01:10:32):
You know, i'd be kind of mad.

Speaker 4 (01:10:36):
Curious where you're Like, so if you're in a relationship
every now and then, like whatever you know you want
to do, like a little quickie, like whatever you want
to be, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:10:45):
Yeah, but I'm still I'm still gonna Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:10:49):
But but yeah, that couple is beautiful. But don't you
like him with Leyton Measter. They're married, they have two kids.

Speaker 3 (01:10:57):
Okay, yeah, but you love them. Yeah, they're just like
an iconic to you.

Speaker 4 (01:11:01):
They were a staple in time they were they were
and they were on the o C.

Speaker 3 (01:11:05):
That's what I'm referring.

Speaker 4 (01:11:06):
Yeah, they were beautiful.

Speaker 3 (01:11:07):
I loved I loved the o C.

Speaker 4 (01:11:09):
I owned that CALIFORNI Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:11:14):
Julie Cooper, I literally she's my fun.

Speaker 4 (01:11:18):
I named my first car after Olivia Wilden. Yeah, I
almost said Marissa Tomy.

Speaker 2 (01:11:26):
I remember Meryl Street.

Speaker 4 (01:11:29):
That was a good season to the Cabareta. Yeah, and
you know what's yours? What's a celebrity couple that you
would bring back together?

Speaker 2 (01:11:44):
I have to be honest, I don't care.

Speaker 3 (01:11:47):
What about Maria Carry They did know that her Sophia
already got out I have a series on it. Amy.

Speaker 4 (01:12:03):
No, yeah, they did it for a long time. Long time.
They met an Aspen and she was like, who the
fuck is this not as special?

Speaker 3 (01:12:11):
Is he the one that just sold his entire discovery?

Speaker 2 (01:12:13):
I think?

Speaker 4 (01:12:14):
I think? So? I don't know know, Okay, okay, well Son,
his son sold his entire and that's Julio Son.

Speaker 2 (01:12:24):
Yes, he sold his entire discography.

Speaker 4 (01:12:27):
Yeah, well, well for him those three songs. Sorry, I
have a good one enjoying.

Speaker 2 (01:12:35):
All right, let's go, baby. So I had an idea
because I knew that you are very well known for
reviewing and talking about celebrity couples, as we just discussed.
So we found mm hmm some single celebrities.

Speaker 3 (01:12:54):
Match maker, match maker, match and we would love.

Speaker 2 (01:12:58):
For you to match, not only match them. Give us
your reasoning.

Speaker 3 (01:13:02):
Oh good, yeah, let's buy.

Speaker 4 (01:13:03):
Why you know, I don't have an opinion.

Speaker 3 (01:13:06):
Everybody meet Linda. Those of you who can see Linda.

Speaker 2 (01:13:10):
Linda, and she is.

Speaker 3 (01:13:13):
That's why she's golledless. She's called around.

Speaker 2 (01:13:20):
I'm gonna read the names that we have. We have
Keiki Palmer, we have Jenna, we have Jennifer Andiston, we
have Sophie Turner, Drew Barrymore, I don't know anymore. Amelia Clark,
Anita does it being weird?

Speaker 4 (01:13:33):
Okay, what's the one next to Anita?

Speaker 2 (01:13:35):
Is Angelina, Joli, Angelina, Joe, my cat Is we have?
Then we have her Queen Brittany, We got my Donna,
we got Fletcher, we got Billie Eilish Drake.

Speaker 3 (01:13:47):
Is this all of them?

Speaker 2 (01:13:48):
Pete Davidson, Yep, Joe Jonas and Jamie Sam like this?

Speaker 3 (01:13:57):
Okay, there you go, there you go.

Speaker 4 (01:13:59):
Okay, So first and foremost, we're gonna start with Madonna,
our Detroit queen. And if you let me do this,
I swear to god.

Speaker 2 (01:14:08):
You're kidding.

Speaker 4 (01:14:11):
Oh, We're just gonna say it. So first we have Madonna. Okay,
I think Madonna should be with Pete Davidson.

Speaker 3 (01:14:18):
Who have you looked at everybody there on the list them?

Speaker 4 (01:14:23):
I won't repeat them. So Pete Davidson and Madonna. She
loves herself a young man and he gets bored really easily,
you can, I mean from what I can tell. And
one she loves an artistic not I don't want to
say confusing, but somebody who is dealing with a lot

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of emotional strife. Okay, and she's the queen of reinvention,
so I think they would fare.

Speaker 3 (01:14:52):
Really really well together.

Speaker 4 (01:14:53):
Okay, I would put her with Pi. They would have
the time of their life. And even though Brittany is
like looking for the love of her life, who do
you think I'm gonna put her with? Please put forward?

Speaker 3 (01:15:06):
And he's very.

Speaker 4 (01:15:07):
Sensitive and they can talk feelings. And I know that
he would kill some choreo that he'd.

Speaker 2 (01:15:12):
Be like baby spin Spin begby the knives. He'd bring
the knives exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:15:17):
Kiki.

Speaker 4 (01:15:18):
I'm gonna put with.

Speaker 3 (01:15:22):
Kiki.

Speaker 4 (01:15:23):
I'm gonna put with you know what. I'm gonna put
her with Road Road because he loves an artist. He
likes depth obviously from being and he but he's also
somebody who he's more like. I don't want to say
he's not artistic, but he does a commercial vibe, you

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know what I mean. He doesn't need it to be
so in depth that people are enjoying themselves, you know
what I mean. And I feel like Kiki is the
same way where she is doing it for the connection
to people and the way that she loves her fans
and the way that he loves his fans. I think
they would really come together in their love of people
and he I think and other people that they dated

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they have either been I don't think is jealous. I
think Kiki's ex was really jealous of her success and
doesn't her artistry for herself. If you like it, that's wonderful,
but that's her self expression. I think they would really
get along with their love of community. You know, he's
always talking about Porto Rico and she's always talking about
the black community and being a black woman.

Speaker 3 (01:16:26):
I think they would really really get along. Okay, all right,
but the gag is but the gag is what?

Speaker 4 (01:16:32):
No?

Speaker 3 (01:16:32):
Nothing?

Speaker 4 (01:16:33):
Oh, I was like, I would put Jennifer you know what.
I would put Jennifer with Drake Oh.

Speaker 3 (01:16:46):
She would run your ship, Drea, she would.

Speaker 4 (01:16:49):
And you're so used to these like Instagram baddies who
are beautiful, but they don't they don't make you sweat.
Jennifer's been in this game for a minute, and I
remember when you were j Lo and you.

Speaker 3 (01:16:59):
Like that ship.

Speaker 4 (01:17:00):
So I would put you with an older woman.

Speaker 5 (01:17:02):
I like that.

Speaker 3 (01:17:02):
Fletcher.

Speaker 4 (01:17:03):
I would put with Angelina Jolly.

Speaker 2 (01:17:05):
Oh.

Speaker 4 (01:17:07):
They have that same like rock and roll motorcycle vibe,
and I think Angelina even though she was she very
much gives top energy. I don't know why you picked
the picture where her extensions aren't blending.

Speaker 3 (01:17:19):
I didn't do that. That's the one time. Honestly, I
love that woman so much of my whole life.

Speaker 4 (01:17:26):
I will do anything anything to look like her and
to be with her. I want to skin her and
wear her.

Speaker 3 (01:17:33):
Yeah, I would too, like.

Speaker 4 (01:17:37):
They, but I think Fletcher, while they match vibe, Fletcher
would be cool driving the motorcycle and letting Angelina hold
where I think in the majority of her life she
has to be the one to take control, you know
what I mean. And I think Fletcher would happily like
baby her, and I think that's what Angeline love that deserves.

(01:17:59):
So Sophie Turner's by, Yes, I would.

Speaker 3 (01:18:03):
Put her with.

Speaker 4 (01:18:06):
I would put her Sophie Turner. I would put with
General Ortega. Sophie Turner is very undercover, and I think
you guys would have a very good time.

Speaker 3 (01:18:16):
No pair with Billy Eilish, No, because that's obvious. Yeah, Billy.

Speaker 4 (01:18:23):
Billy is going with Anita. Amelia, however, is going with
Joe Jonas because Joe Jonas wants a traditional.

Speaker 3 (01:18:30):
Wife and she she's not by She's not by that.

Speaker 4 (01:18:34):
We know if everybody's fucking But like, I think Amelia
is a kind of like she brings a certain joy
to a room, you know what I mean. And I
think Joe is looking for that, like he's looking for
a traditional happy wife, and I think Amelia is seamless
and to that, I think her joy is her superpower.

Speaker 3 (01:18:53):
You know, that's such a cute picture of Drew.

Speaker 4 (01:18:56):
I'm putting with Sam. You deserve to get rocked, baby.
I hope you're getting dug out.

Speaker 3 (01:19:02):
As honey by the world's gentlemen.

Speaker 4 (01:19:08):
I can't wait for him to disappoint us in some way.
I know.

Speaker 3 (01:19:11):
I think you did it.

Speaker 4 (01:19:12):
I think I did it.

Speaker 2 (01:19:13):
Yes, she did it.

Speaker 3 (01:19:14):
They're both you know what I mean. No, I could
see that. I could see that.

Speaker 4 (01:19:17):
But sitting next to each other, that was good, right, Yeah,
it was really good.

Speaker 3 (01:19:23):
Thank you? Wow?

Speaker 2 (01:19:24):
Yeah, Okay, there you go, matchmaker, you guys out there,
I wonder if any of them will come true. Well,
I know all of these people watch our show, so exactly. Well,
miss Teffie, Yes, thank you for that time.

Speaker 3 (01:19:38):
You have a beautiful.

Speaker 2 (01:19:39):
Presence and gorgeous energy, and we are appreciative of your presence.

Speaker 4 (01:19:45):
Oh my god, I love you, guys.

Speaker 3 (01:19:46):
I just.

Speaker 2 (01:19:48):
I'm not one for speeches. Yes I am, Yes you are.

Speaker 3 (01:19:52):
You knew that right totally, but I love her. At
the end of this.

Speaker 4 (01:19:55):
Season, my media trainer said that there's confidence and pauses,
and you are really good. That pause is done, Obama.

Speaker 3 (01:20:02):
Talk media trainer. That's interesting, and I.

Speaker 4 (01:20:07):
Appreciate you as well.

Speaker 2 (01:20:13):
No, for real, though, I'm really thankful, not only for
everybody that's been listening to us this season, but for
the amazing people who have sat in that chair, and
more so than anybody, my beautiful writer Die who's been
next to me every single day, every single good thing
and bad thing. Thank you. I don't know any other
way to leave you guys this season than to give

(01:20:35):
you everybody all right, ladies, germs, germains, jermones, and your moons.
Welcome to Space News. I'm Emily Stefan, and this is
the last Space News of the season's better strap in
and strap on. Astronomers from the Harold Smithson Center of
Astrophysics c f A and elsewhere report the discovery of

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a new new warm Jupiter exoplanet that is orbiting and
rapidly rotating F type star. It is now known to
be the hottest exoplanet discovered, affectionately taking the name as Miami.
Those you should sit like Stefan, New York's hottest planet

(01:21:21):
in Miami.

Speaker 3 (01:21:24):
The Polarist down mission will feature the world's first commercial
space walk with SpaceX design extrovert what extra vehicular extra
vehicular activity suits, as this will be the very first
non astronauts stretting the stars. This flight will include Naomi Campbell,
all of the dancers from Beyonce's Renaissance Tour, and Snoop Dogg.
Because where is Snoop Dogg?

Speaker 4 (01:21:44):
Not?

Speaker 2 (01:21:47):
I love it just thinking about.

Speaker 1 (01:21:51):
Hi.

Speaker 4 (01:21:52):
Welcome live breaking news Houston. We have found the tomato.
The NASA astronaut Frank grew you Latinos grew a tomato
in space, but then it disappeared.

Speaker 3 (01:22:05):
Frank lost to Tomato Latinos.

Speaker 4 (01:22:08):
Suspicion trailed mister Rubio for months, but he has been
proved innocent. In a turn of events, however, the space
thief has been identified and has now been identified.

Speaker 3 (01:22:23):
As Chef Boy r D. He's in Coho's with Martha Stewart.
Before I leave you.

Speaker 4 (01:22:30):
They're gonna shut down the station for the Truth, for
the truth, and then it starts going the truth. Chef
Boyard is behind various crimes.

Speaker 3 (01:22:46):
Various crimes.

Speaker 2 (01:22:47):
Oh my god, my little little.

Speaker 3 (01:22:51):
Gives me every conspiracy.

Speaker 4 (01:22:53):
If we did it, if we did the conspiracy treat
everything would lead back to Cheffi Chi Bordino.

Speaker 3 (01:22:59):
Sari Bordeed is legal name. Everyone thinks it's a chef.

Speaker 2 (01:23:02):
It's just his name.

Speaker 4 (01:23:03):
Really, I've never met.

Speaker 3 (01:23:05):
Wow, I really felt for that.

Speaker 4 (01:23:09):
Wows the problem with the internet.

Speaker 2 (01:23:12):
His name is well, Teffie. Thanks for ending the best
space news ever.

Speaker 4 (01:23:17):
You win.

Speaker 2 (01:23:18):
Thank you very much. Any parting words my.

Speaker 3 (01:23:21):
Youth, Oh my god, co hosts, Yes, yes, yes, man,
just to get me in my feeling.

Speaker 2 (01:23:29):
Let it.

Speaker 4 (01:23:30):
Okay, I feel the rain on your skin.

Speaker 3 (01:23:33):
What's going on in my mic?

Speaker 2 (01:23:34):
No one else will feel it for you. Only you
can let it for doing.

Speaker 4 (01:23:40):
You do that.

Speaker 2 (01:23:41):
It's no one else, no one else. Okay, go baby, go,
come on. People are bored.

Speaker 1 (01:23:48):
We gotta go for you.

Speaker 3 (01:23:50):
I'm bored.

Speaker 4 (01:23:51):
Raise your hand for board. Haha, I can't see you.

Speaker 2 (01:23:56):
Well, there we go.

Speaker 3 (01:23:56):
I found it. It was in my hair.

Speaker 4 (01:23:58):
You got it, you got it. It's your beard.

Speaker 3 (01:24:02):
Just kidding.

Speaker 4 (01:24:03):
You broke up with A years ago.

Speaker 2 (01:24:06):
I never had one gold Star.

Speaker 3 (01:24:07):
Yeah, I'm a gold stars. For those of you that
don't know, you have me listening. This has been an
incredible thirty episodes. We've done things that we've never done before,
things I'd never do again, Halloween Hornitz. But I really
enjoyed every single moment of it too. We've met some

(01:24:28):
awesome people, some people that we've been looking up to
for years, some people that we've hate' teffie, but we
still brought her here. Thanks for letting me on the
problem because she said she'd never been to space, and
we thought that we would give her a chance, you
know anything, for the people, I could not I could

(01:24:49):
not end this season without bringing my gratitude to the
incredible team behind in our own world that makes it
all happen. Two of them. Three of them who are
here today, Danny, Chris Mesa, but plenty of them behind
the scenes. Goodbye, guys, so good.

Speaker 2 (01:25:29):
She pressed all the wrong buttons. You suck, you fail
that lie maybe anyway, So.

Speaker 4 (01:25:41):
Sorry, and that's why they pay me the medium that
was I'm so sorry. I meant to give you a
round of applause.

Speaker 3 (01:25:46):
I'm so sorry you kept calling I always will nothing else.

Speaker 2 (01:26:00):
Last episode.

Speaker 4 (01:26:00):
I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. It's
some fantastic work, the subtitle.

Speaker 3 (01:26:08):
And everything you do. Oh my god. Anyway, babe, that
was it. Tuffy said everything I was feeling and not showed.

Speaker 2 (01:26:19):
Deffie one are your parting words, dude.

Speaker 4 (01:26:21):
Thank you so much for having me and for lifting
that restraining order.

Speaker 2 (01:26:27):
Where can we see you next?

Speaker 4 (01:26:28):
What are you up to all over Miami? Born and
raised in the County of day I. My name is Stefania.
Everyone calls me Teffi, but best friends call me Hello, Teffy.
Thank you very much for having me.

Speaker 2 (01:26:44):
You, guys, thank you for an amazing second season of
In Our Own World.

Speaker 3 (01:26:48):
We love you so much. See you next year.

Speaker 1 (01:26:51):
Bye.

Speaker 3 (01:26:52):
I barely know you guys. And that's your camera over there.
Yeah bye god, Oh my gosh ba bye b bye.
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