December 12, 2025 • 40 mins
Ever been to a concert and had the people around you drive you nuts? On this week's In Service Of mini sode Steve Baltin is joined by Danielle Halley, a longtime bartender and concert goer. She goes over how to behave and misbehave at concerts.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
Hey, it's Steve Bolton. How you doing this week? On
the Friday episode of Inservice, have a really fun conversation
and this is going to be the start of something new.
In addition to doing the mini episodes, we'll be talking
each week with or some weeks I should say, with
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people affiliated with music. So I'll be talking with people
Ender and Yamaha and other companies coming up marketing people.
You know, it takes so much more for an artist
to make it, but there's also aspects of the industry
that just should be fun, like, for example, concerts. So
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on this week's conversation, I sit down with Danielle Haley.
Danielle has been a bartender at shows for years as
well as an avid concertgoer, so she has a lot
to say about concert etiquette, the good, the bad, and
everything between, and how to have a fun time in
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a show without being an asshole. So if you enjoyed
this one as much as I did, Hey, Steve Bolton,
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and welcome to in Service up today where today I'm
just talking with my friend Danielle Haley about concert etiquette.
So Danielle and I met when she was bartending backstage
at the Wheeltern I don't remember what the fuck show
it was. The funny thing is the only show we
actually saw together. I was just thinking, was Olivia Dean,
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who's now like blowing up huge and we saw at
the Roxy. But Danielle as someone who's barred, did done
bottle service and literally the only person I know who's
been punched in the face of the show, has some
amazing fucking stories. So looking forward to hearing those. But first,
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before we come on to the punch in the face story,
I mean for you, like, when you're talking, you know
about bar dating itself, what are the craziest crawds you've seen?
Because it's funny for me, I can tell you the
worst show I saw at the Greek and you will
never believe it, but I want it know for you,
like what are the good things people do and what
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are the things where you're just like, get the fuck
out here?
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Oh boy? Well, I would say I worked at the
Palladium and we had a lot of raves there, So
those were probably some of the more like rowdy crowds
because they were not necessarily just drinking, they were doing
some extracurricular activities along with it, or not rock crowds
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and metal crowds are like the nicest people. A lot
of them are actually sober, which is kind of interesting
part of the community there. But the craziest fans are
probably like the pop stars. They just like immediately book
it to the front of the stage and they do
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not leave for eight hours until they see that the
one individual.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
They're waiting for. So for you though, I mean, like
what do people do in terms of the bartender that, like,
you know, like are both the good and the bad?
Like what you know when you're going to a concert,
you know, because I'm sure you guys are slammed, you
get guys sitting on you, you get drunk people, like,
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you know what, what's the best and the worst behavior? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (03:55):
I think the worst behavior was one time I was working.
It was an EDIM show and they signed their check,
but they left behind a baggie of drugs and that
is just, you know, not what I need to deal
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with because obviously then I have to like report it
and whatever. And then they had the audacity to come
back and ask for it. It's like, no, I ge't, like,
you know, how much trouble I can get in for
having drugs near me? On me at work, so that
it was probably one of the worst behavior, Like just
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keep your drugs to yourself, guys, I don't want to
deal with it.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
So that drugs was the show it was.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
It was a rave, it was an edium concert. I
don't remember their particular artists. Uh, it was a white
power I'm assuming cocaine. I didn't test it to find out.
That's my best guess.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
I don't know why I even tested. I mean, you
were just doing your job to you know what.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Sure, Yeah, definitely, definitely. UH had how to make sure
it was it was good. No one was getting hurt.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
You know what's so funny? Okay, the worst show I
ever saw at the Greek Theater. And again, I've seen
everything under the sun. Just take a wild guess. Just
shout out a random name, because I guarantee you in
a thousand years you will never get it.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Uh, I'm gonna say, was it you mean like the
rowdiest or just the rudest.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
The rudest Oh okay, okay, like it was the worst thing.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Got to be for probably, like.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
The worst thing.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Got to be one of the really big like pop stars.
I'm gonna guess Olivia Rodrigo.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
No no, I mean I told you guests for a
thousand years. It was actually, of all people, it was
Neil Diamond.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
What my next guest is gonna be? Ringo star.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Neil Diamond. Crowd was it was hilarious. And first of all, okay,
so I've known Neil and his manager wife for years,
so we had like the best seats in the house.
So there were people behind us, like these old people,
like you know, they were in their sixties seventies. And
what's amazing was the sense of entitlement. And this port
woman never shut up during the show. She's kept talking.
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And finally, my who is like, you know, will say
anything to me, but was kind of, you know, very
like mousey in public. Just this woman never shut up.
But I mean, these people were insane. Okay, I swear
to fucking god. This guy was in his seventies and
now she comes over and tells me to put a
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cigarette out, and he goes, it's not mine. He's like, dude,
I see you holding it. He's like, it's not mine.
And the guy who's like arguing with him, and he's
like in his seventies. These people were insane. So finally
like they would not stop talking so bad, and my
extra just turns around and goes, would you start the
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fuck up? And like this woman looked like she had
just been like assaulted, and she's like, oh. And the
funny thing is I was telling Neil's wife manager after
the show and they were cracking up. But I mean,
this crowd was so badly behaved. I'm not kidding. We
also saw like gomesticas disturbance that I had to be
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like stop by security guards. Two people in their like seventies,
and this guy was like fighting with his wife and
they had to be broken up by security guards. And
the other problem is these people never go out, so
when they do go out, they've saved it up for
a year. And they also feel very entitled.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Okay, all right, that's good to know. So never attend
and you'll Joe.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
It's not his fault. The craft sucks. And the other
one that I saw, the only show I've ever been
afraid at was Backstreet Boys in Chicago.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Yeah, I bet, I bet what year.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Was that it was? Why did you? That's but and
I'm friends with Backstreet Boys. I literally just interviewed AJ
for the podcast like two weeks ago. Great, dude, But
I swear to god there were over ten thousand people there.
We were there, pleza. I was with two girls that
were upsessed with Backstreet Boys, so we took off from
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the loser when to Backstreet boys. There were over ten
thousand people there. There were twelve fucking guys in the
place out of ten thousand, and this crowd was like
again the soccer moms. Dude, I'm in the bathroom and
there's these two guys like, you know, yelling to each
other at the urinal their friends, like they weren't arguing,
you know, but and the one guy, it's like, hey,
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where's Aaron or Amber or whatever the hell her name was?
And this guy just literally the bathroom full of people
is like and again, these dudes are in their thirties.
He's like, oh, she's digging some guy in the bushes.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Oh alrighty.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Then I mean the soccer mom's man, when they go out,
they lose their fucking mind.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Yeah, yeah, they say good girls gone gone wild for sure.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
Well, because they never go out, so when they do,
it's like, yeah, it's a free for all exactly. It's like, again,
you save up all that energy. It's interesting now that
you say the worst crowds with the ed M crowds
because I always found like an EDC they were the
most polite, Like they were very they were very polite,
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Like you know, I mean, yeah, I've seen more than
more than a few people pulled down on a stretcher,
you know, and before the show even starts, it's like
you can't do hold your shit. That's embarrassing.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Yeah, that happens a lot. Like it's definitely become kind
of a party scene. So kids just go in with
like three beat boxes deep and just do not come
out on the other end unfortunately.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
So what what have been like, You're like, what have
been the best shows to bartend now? In terms of
like people just being cool and in terms of tips,
and in terms of like again like you know, what
do people do?
Speaker 2 (11:01):
You know?
Speaker 1 (11:03):
That's good. It's opposed to leaving random drugs that you know,
then they come back and they're like, dude, I forgot
my coke? Do you know where I left it?
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Oh? Yeah, that was unfortunate for.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
That does sound like a bad movie. Man, it would
make a really funny movie.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Yeah, that is a good scene. I could definitely see
that that in a good comedy movie, just like this
Life of a La Bartender trying to make it for.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Sure from the Keno from the concert gar perspective, like
they're in the show, they're getting ready to do a
bump and it's like, fuck, where's the coke? And now
they're running out through the whole bendy like where do
we leave? It's like, you know, the the you know,
narcotics version of dude, where's my car?
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Yeah, oh my gosh, I have a feeling that that
happens a pretty frequently.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
I don't know. I never liked to poke about drugs,
so I mean I never left it anywhere.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Me neither, luckily, you know.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
Just play once And honestly, it was with a famous
band who I will not name publicly. They literally it
was a big band and they literally skip their encore
to go with us to get drugs.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Life in the music.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Industry, it literally like did a sole up show at
the Ford Theater, which is an amazing place, and then
rather than do a non card they're like, okay, let's
go get the bluff.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Hey. Yeah, Life of a rock star? What can I say? Well,
better than.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
I Life of a hot bartender. You have to have
a lot of story.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
So yeah, I would say the best crowd probably typically
skews more middle aged, you know, not not broke college
kids unfortunately, or but they're still young enough to go
out and drink and have a good time. But I
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would say that metal crowd, like the goth metal they
look scarier than they really are. They're actually again some
of the nicest people I've probably gotten to a bartend for.
And when you do concerts you get so many different demographics,
and I would have to say that's probably my favorite.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
There. Yeah. No, I've never had a pubb with the
metal crowds except the one time but I was just
a kid where I was seeing Judas Priests at the
log Each Arena and there's huge fight broke out in
the crowd after the show. And the funniest thing was
many many many years later, I was interviewing Rob Halford
and I was like, do you remember that night? And
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he's like, Rob Halford, of course is the lead singer
of Juus Priest, a metal god, And I was like,
do you remember that show? And he's like, oh, yeah,
that was in Long Beach. I was doing a bunch
of blow in the back of the Queen Mary after
that show.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
Yeah, I'm sensing a trend here.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
Yeah, as a fan, you know, tell everybody this sort.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
I mean.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
Again, usually when you're a really attractive woman, the last
thing you have to worry about his show is being
punched in the face. And yet somehow you've been victimized.
It's funny because I'm talking to another friend about, you know,
this topic, and we're talking about getting like pickpocketed. You're
the only person I know who this happens to, like
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on a regular basis.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Being pocketed. My I have been pickpocketed a couple times
in Los Angeles. They're really talented here, Like I don't
I don't know what to to say. I've caught them
a few times too, like mid mid pickpocket. But uh, yeah,
I've had my phone stolen, I've had my wallet stolen
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all at you know, the the gay bars. That's a
big problem in West Hollywood. And then yeah, at these
bigger festivals or these DM concerts, that's also very common unfortunately.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
And what was the show that you got punched in
the pace at? And tell that story again.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Yeah, So I was at a show in downtown LA
to see Clooney and he was right about to come on.
I was there with two of my friends, and basically
my smaller girlfriend was kind of leading the way through
the crowd and kind of got stuck, and this guy
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starts yelling at her like you're not gonna stay there,
are you? Like what are you doing? Like you can't
stand there? And I kind of turned for a second
to look for a different direction we can move, and
then I turned back and I see her now in
between two people, a guy and a girl. I'm assuming
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his girlfriend, and now they're both screaming at her. And
I literally turn around and I'm just like, hey, like,
what's going on, what's the problem? And this shorter the
shorter girl comes up to me yells a couple words
that I can't hear, and then she just immediately socks
me like in the face, and we are pulled apart
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by the crowd immediately, like people grab us before I
can even react. I didn't fall down or anything when
she punched me, but I was just kind of like wow,
and I get pushed to the front and it turns
out I'm actually like gushing blood down my lip. She
had split my lip open, and the security had to
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pull me over the front rails to get me to
the medic tent. And so me and my one friend
who was getting screamed at, who's now I'm scathed, both
go over the rails and we head to the medic tent.
And I have this like beautiful fat lip that is
just bleeding everywhere, and yeah, they basically give me ice
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and you know, pressure, but that's really all we could
do after that. And luckily for me, I guess my
male friend that was left behind in the crowd, he
ended up like getting in a little bit of a
scuffle with the boyfriend, so they kind of got some
karma coming back to them afterwards. Because I was pretty
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angry because I really didn't do anything and I wasn't
trying to to fight anyone in this moment. It was
just very unfortunate.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Since she had thrown out of the venue.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
Uh so I guess after his our friend's situation with
the boyfriend, she was like crying and they must have left.
It was so crowded. The the EMTs or the medics
wanted me to file a police report and try and
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get her kicked out. But once they came and I
knew this was going to happen, I was like, yeah,
there's somewhere in the crowd. I recognized her, but there's
a thousand people here, you know, the odds of us
being able to find them again are pretty slim. And
they were like, yeah, unfortunately, that's kind of how it works.
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So yeah, I sent the police on their way and
hopefully they left. We didn't see them, and we just
tried to enjoy the rest of the night with the
ice pack amellet all time.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
So and then you had your phone, Like, what is
it about you that just brings out the worst of
people with the puck.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
I think the phone thing is not unique to me.
It's actually a pretty big problem. Like you'll see these
guys with like hundreds of phones when they get caught
in a bag. So it's definitely not just me with
the with the pick pocketing. But I actually saw the
guy who did it because it was in my front
pocket and he had like bumped into me and kind
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of like looked at me, and I didn't register exactly
what he was doing, But after we had stepped a
few feet away, I realized, oh, I didn't have my phone.
He was probably stealing my phone, And but by that
time they were already gone, like out of the venue.
They trat we tracked the phone and was outside the
venue and then they had shut it off.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
So so what have then your concert experiences?
Speaker 2 (20:03):
S concert experience? Okay, so back in the Warped Tour days,
my cousin was in a pretty popular I guess you
could say alternative band club, the Cab, and we got
to go backstage and be on stage kind of like
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beside curtains while they were playing on the main stage.
This is in the Comcast Center, I believe, which is
in Hartford, Connecticut. But it was pretty cool and I
got to see their tour bus. I was like fourteen,
it was. It was pretty lit. I was pretty excited
about it. So it was one of my earlier on concerts.
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Obviously I'm fourteen at the time, so it was just
really fun to be able to have that experience at
such a young age.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
For sure. Good for you now, Like what, like I
had so many go those just shows. What are the
best things people do and what are the most annoying
things people do, you know besides punching you in the face,
so obviously, which is only half the once thankful, like
still the only person I know the tap Like when
you're in a crowded show, like what you know, what
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are the good vibes and what are the things that
like you know, just sort of like dude, like what
the fuck is wrong with you?
Speaker 2 (21:26):
One thing I hate is I am a big adm
like house fan. And what is really popular in the
community is people, specifically women. They have these fans, but
they clack them. It's called like fan clacking, and it's
basically them whipping it open and closed constantly, and or
the the I hate that. That's that drives me insane,
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Like don't ruin the music with they're whooping over there
or whatever noises you're making. Uh, it drives me crazy.
But honestly, the pushing, like oh, an artist comes on,
your immediate reaction is to push, don't be rude. We're
all here to see the same person. Those are probably
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top top three least favorite, Like the best behavior is
when you're all just there enjoying it community, like you
help each other, you know, you give each other water,
you tell each other to have, like you know, sunscreen,
you're getting burnt, especially in these like longer day festivals
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or shows that you might go to, Like you really
see some camaraderie at some shows and others.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
Not so much.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
But when you have the right energy, you have to
make sure you have the right energy unfortunately, Like there
are some artists that I really love, but they just
bring the wrong kind of people.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
Like who's the artists that you love that you just
are like, you know, like it's funny, right. I've interviewed
Dave Matthews many times. I love Dave Matthews both as
a person, kind of like his music. But we've even
talked about the fucking prat boy stock Boy Stockbroken crowd,
like they're all drunk. They're like, no, the band is amazing.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
I know. I agree. I would have to say the
show where I got punched at is Clooney, and I
have seen him a few times. In the crowd, at
least when i've seen him in Los Angeles has always
been super rough and they're just like like climbing fences
and statues and like shaking like they're doing all sorts
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of crazy stuff. And a John Summit crowd is pretty
tough as well. He's really big right now, so I
think he kind of just brings everyone, including that like
frat boy crowd that's kind of his look these days.
So yeah, definitely like young frat boy crowd. It's just
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not the vibe. You want to know what other genre
that's blowing up is K pop. It's really young. But
those as a bartender, I hate working it because they
don't drink it all. They don't drink at all. And
I don't know what because it's they're so young, but
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they don't drink at all. But they are very polite.
I will give them that.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
I saw Sean Mendez years ago Staple Center when it
was still Staple Center, and you know, like this was
maybe six seven years ago. I've never experienced set a
show ever. There was no one literally there were four
people at the bar me and my day we ran
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into two people.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
I know.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
That was like the crowd was so young. There was
literally four people there and it was so awkward, and
I mean, I'm like, no, I'm good, I'm not seeing
this again.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
Yeah. Yeah, as a bartender, honestly, I'll deal with a
bad crowd as long as they're drinking and tipping to
some extent, working kind of kid shows where it's a
twenty one and under, it's just not fun. As a bartender.
You serve water all day and you stand around kind
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of sitting on your hands.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
So it's the most fun show, even a bartended.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
Trying to. So we've done a lot of comedy shows. Actually,
when Netflix is a joke kind of runs their comedy
specials every year and films them all over Los Angeles.
Say like, as a bartender, if you can also hear
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the set, it's really funny and cool. Sometimes depending on
the comedian, they'll take your phones even like the staff,
which is a little annoying because they don't want anything
from their set leaking before it drops on, you know,
Netflix or whatever streaming service that they're planning to drop
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it on. But the crowds are always like they're always
there to drink but not be obnoxious, and it's like
they come in like these big rushes. So it's like
you get a bunch of people in the beginning kind
of get to relax, reset. There's usually some form of intermission.
Sometimes there's a couple openers, and you get like big rushes.
So it's good money. Sometimes you can do two in
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a day, which is great because you just like flip
the one back to back. I've done that at the
will Turn where they have back to back people, and
those shifts are always fun and it's like, yeah, you
get to hear the artists or whoever is performing their
set like before anyone else does, which is really cool
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as well. Those are probably some of my favorite honestly,
which I know is in music.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
But the right right s concer that it gets so
for you, as someone who's both worked in that industry
and been to many shows and had many memorable experiences,
you know probably something that you have not told me
about as well, Like what is like what advice do
you up for people going to shows, like in terms
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of behavior and like how to not get your phone solen,
how to not get punched in the face, which you.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
Know, and I don't have advice on because I don't
even know how it happened in the first place. To
not get your phone stolen, what I've had to do
is literally tether my phone to my body. So get
something that's crossbodied and that you can clip your phone to,
don't have it in your pocket. Don't have a fanny
pack on unless it's like through your belt loops, because
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they'll steal the fanny pack right off you. That happened
to my friend at a Clooney concert in Like, yeah,
you really just got to be super careless. They're so
good at it, which is tough because a lot of
people are partying, they're drinking. You kind of aren't really
paying attention. You're with your friends, you're in a big crowd,
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so you really just have to be cognizant of that.
And what was the other.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
Question, Like, yeah, just seeing him how to behave and
like how to have fun and like what you know, don't.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
Be an asshole, Like if you don't want to be pushed,
don't push other people. Like, don't get too drunk. It's
a marathon, not a sprint, So don't pregame with eight
shots in your car before you walk in because you
don't want to pay for drinks because then you're not
gonna make it to the end of the day, especially
if you're doing a festival or show. Drink water, Like, please,
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dear God, drink water. Eat food. You need to fuel
your body to get through these long hours of standing, sweating,
whatever you're doing. Please eat your food, to drink water.
That's probably the number one thing because otherwise it's just
downhill from there.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
All right, who's the coolest person, Like who's the coolest
celebrity that you ever? You know, like waiting on okay?
Speaker 2 (29:36):
Oh gosh, I'm trying to think. There are a lot
of like very mediocre, like you're like, oh, that was okay,
But the best celebrity, Oh, actually I know who it is,
So Rob Gronkowski. I used to do a bottle service
at a casino in New England and he came and
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he literally was the nicest guy. Like he's actually the
exact person you see on television like goofy, but like
really sweet, really nice. He tipped like everyone in like
gave everyone like a hundred dollars bill, like every girl
that was there, like was very polite. Uh, it was like, oh,
have champagne with us, like just loved like he loved
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to have a good time and just was really like
a nice guy. So probably my favorite person to have
waited on with him?
Speaker 1 (30:31):
All Right, So for you as a concert fan, there's
certain people you won't go see again. Is there anyone
you'll see just because the crowd is so awesome?
Speaker 2 (30:40):
I have to go see because the crowd is so awesome.
I'm trying to think.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
Or who will you tolerate just you know, like I mean,
because it's funny. When we first met, you were going
to a Travis Scott show GA in someplace Northeast I
don't remember, but like by yourself, which I was insane.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
I have floor tickets actually, and to his concert in
New Jersey. I was home for the holidays in Connecticut
and it was like January twod or something, and floor
tickets were a lot cheaper than they were on the
West Coast, so I was like, yeah, I'm going to
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do that. Actually, everyone was really nice. It was not
over sold or overcrowded. This is after the whole Astro
World thing, so I think they were very careful with
the ticket sales and security this time around.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
Yeah, I mean, you know, all all shoves, I would
think that would be the one that, like also just
being there like by yourself, I would think that would
be the one where you would like get pushed the
most and all that.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
But you know, yeah, it wasn't bad. It was only
like three people deep, but I think on the floor
three ros it wasn't interesting.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
All right, So any other concert advice.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
I'm trying to think who I also really liked? Okay,
if you really like like visual artists, Anima He kind
of blew up in the trans World and has had
a residency at the Spear, which is really cool. He
has like these super cool end of Genesis is this
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thing and it's like this robot lady and it's it's
very beautiful, and I think that would be the artist
I would go see despite the crowd, And the crowd
wasn't mean or rude, but it's just the fact that
they had their phones out recording the entire time, because
it's a very visual show and I was just like,
please just watch it, like it's cool, take some videos,
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but like there are people who just had their phones
out the entire time, and I was like, this is
just annoying, and like no one's dancing. There was holding
their phones, not not not the vite.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
Well, what do you want to add? We can talk
about m I said, what do you want to add?
We did not talk about.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
Oh, I'm trying to think what what was your favorite
show that you've seen, like ever like your top.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
And why, well what's ethely the Union to show at
the O two arena because it can't be topped? I mean,
I was like it was funny because I kind of
thought that it would just be like a nostalgia thing
and it was the greatest thing I've ever seen. I
was like, it was two thousand and seven, and you know,
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first of all, there were only twelve American journalists who
got to go. And then you know, and I was
covering for AOL and they were like, look, we're not
sending you because you know, there's like a million people
in London who want to cover it, but if you
want to get to yourself, go ahead. And it's funny
because the rumor was that they were going to tour
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the US and I was like, you know, so I
almost didn't go. And then I asked my friend who
books Coachella, and you know, I'm like, well, what do
you think because I've heard they playing Coachella. And what
he said to me that I'll never forget was he goes,
no matter what happens, that first show is going to
be special. And I was like, dude, you're riding that.
That's my favorite band. I've always wanted to see them.
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It was the greatest singles show that could ever be.
I love that for you, but I mean, it was
like it was insane. I went to London for four
days to see Led Zeppelin there were. It's so funny
because like people think, like you know, shows like Terriswood
for Beyonce or like bag Gets and it's like, no
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disrespect to either of them. They're both grades. There were
there were twenty million people who applied for eighteen thousand
tickets from fifty countries. This was like, you know, do
you think.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
The crowds in Europe are better than the United States?
Speaker 1 (35:15):
I mean, that show is so special it's hard to say.
I met someone after the show, like just coming out
who literally was from Northeast Canada. You know how fucking
cool that is. The dude sold his truck so he
can come to London for the show. He literally is
walking to work every day because again it's the only
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fun show Led Zeppelin I've ever done.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
That's yeah, that is a special show. I'm glad they
came through. That sounds really cool. And honestly, I've heard
from just like artists interviews that European crowds are better
because they don't go there as often, So I was
wondering your opinion. I would really love to go see
more shows abroad when I travel.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
There, but it also depends on what, you know, what
you're seeing in the US. Yeah, true, Yeah, I have
never had problems at raves, you know. But the other
thing being, by the way, I have all access from
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backstage and no one's stealing my chit.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
Yeah. See, I like to be a little plebean and
hang out in the crowds with the Sometimes I get,
you know, my VIP tickets, but uh, I've kind of like.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
Do you really to be Plebeian or you know.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
It depends, like you really want to get that community vibe.
I it was funny because my uncle used to run
a bunch of nightclubs in Boston and New England, and
obviously I never had to be in g A, but
I will be all the time just because it was
fun and just wanted to dance. No one was like
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standing around. They didn't care what they looked like or
if they were cool.
Speaker 1 (37:07):
Or not cool.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
They were just enjoying it. So I do enjoy that
aspect of it.
Speaker 1 (37:13):
If it's someone I really want to see, then yes
I will be in the crowd. Like nine Channes of Coachella,
I would never be in VIP like you know, there,
I was at the front, but it was like you know,
I mean and actually it's funny because you're doing your
first Coachella. The VIP grads of Coachella the worst people
I've ever seen there. So you know what it is.
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I hate fucking entitled people. You're not fucking special just
because your fucking mother told you you were special. She
fucking wied to you. You're a piece of shit. You've
never done anything, No one cares about you. You're worthless.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
That's like everyone, uh kind of in LA who's mom
just told them they were so special and then they
all wanted to come.
Speaker 1 (38:01):
I know you're like, oh, you know, no, you're really not.
You've never done anything, you have no talent. You know
there are people who actually are special, but you know
you're not one of them, just because says, of course
you're great at what you do. But what the fuck
do you do? You literally like, hey, can I have
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guest list? Do you know who my daddy is? You
probably don't even know who your daddy is.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
I bought my tickets with my own money, my own dollars.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
So it's just stupid because I told you I would
have gotten you in. But I mean, influencers to me
are just like the worst, the worst.
Speaker 2 (38:51):
I don't interact with a lot of them, unfortunately or
unfortunately maybe.
Speaker 1 (38:58):
I actually that's the one should coach out once, because
if this person didn't stop talking, I was like, I'm
going to literally smash your head on the table.
Speaker 2 (39:05):
We're going, oh, well, that's aggressive.
Speaker 1 (39:11):
He was like, my dog had just died the week before.
So I was there just because I was like, well,
I don't know, I could be home and miserable. Good
tell and miserable. Amax sent me as idiot was at
the table like he literally was like, oh, last night,
I was at a party at you know, on the
Coachella grounds. That roof is the soul we're playing and
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then you know, but I found out there was an
Amazon party that we're going I was at, and he's like,
it's my lot in life to be at the wrong part,
to have the wrong wristband, And I'm like, you are
the most pathetic little bitch I've ever heard. And it
was funny because a month later or months later, as
with the mixed people, and they're like, we know exactly
who you're talking about.
Speaker 2 (39:53):
Unfortunate.
Speaker 1 (39:54):
So I think I would have been justified smashing his head,
but I was like, no, I don't want to do that,
We're gonna leave
Hey, it's Steve Bolton. How you doing this week? On
the Friday episode of Inservice, have a really fun conversation
and this is going to be the start of something new.
In addition to doing the mini episodes, we'll be talking
each week with or some weeks I should say, with
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people affiliated with music. So I'll be talking with people
Ender and Yamaha and other companies coming up marketing people.
You know, it takes so much more for an artist
to make it, but there's also aspects of the industry
that just should be fun, like, for example, concerts. So
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on this week's conversation, I sit down with Danielle Haley.
Danielle has been a bartender at shows for years as
well as an avid concertgoer, so she has a lot
to say about concert etiquette, the good, the bad, and
everything between, and how to have a fun time in
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a show without being an asshole. So if you enjoyed
this one as much as I did, Hey, Steve Bolton,
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and welcome to in Service up today where today I'm
just talking with my friend Danielle Haley about concert etiquette.
So Danielle and I met when she was bartending backstage
at the Wheeltern I don't remember what the fuck show
it was. The funny thing is the only show we
actually saw together. I was just thinking, was Olivia Dean,
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who's now like blowing up huge and we saw at
the Roxy. But Danielle as someone who's barred, did done
bottle service and literally the only person I know who's
been punched in the face of the show, has some
amazing fucking stories. So looking forward to hearing those. But first,
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before we come on to the punch in the face story,
I mean for you, like, when you're talking, you know
about bar dating itself, what are the craziest crawds you've seen?
Because it's funny for me, I can tell you the
worst show I saw at the Greek and you will
never believe it, but I want it know for you,
like what are the good things people do and what
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are the things where you're just like, get the fuck
out here?
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Oh boy? Well, I would say I worked at the
Palladium and we had a lot of raves there, So
those were probably some of the more like rowdy crowds
because they were not necessarily just drinking, they were doing
some extracurricular activities along with it, or not rock crowds
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and metal crowds are like the nicest people. A lot
of them are actually sober, which is kind of interesting
part of the community there. But the craziest fans are
probably like the pop stars. They just like immediately book
it to the front of the stage and they do
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not leave for eight hours until they see that the
one individual.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
They're waiting for. So for you though, I mean, like
what do people do in terms of the bartender that, like,
you know, like are both the good and the bad?
Like what you know when you're going to a concert,
you know, because I'm sure you guys are slammed, you
get guys sitting on you, you get drunk people, like,
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you know what, what's the best and the worst behavior? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (03:55):
I think the worst behavior was one time I was working.
It was an EDIM show and they signed their check,
but they left behind a baggie of drugs and that
is just, you know, not what I need to deal
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with because obviously then I have to like report it
and whatever. And then they had the audacity to come
back and ask for it. It's like, no, I ge't, like,
you know, how much trouble I can get in for
having drugs near me? On me at work, so that
it was probably one of the worst behavior, Like just
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keep your drugs to yourself, guys, I don't want to
deal with it.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
So that drugs was the show it was.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
It was a rave, it was an edium concert. I
don't remember their particular artists. Uh, it was a white
power I'm assuming cocaine. I didn't test it to find out.
That's my best guess.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
I don't know why I even tested. I mean, you
were just doing your job to you know what.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Sure, Yeah, definitely, definitely. UH had how to make sure
it was it was good. No one was getting hurt.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
You know what's so funny? Okay, the worst show I
ever saw at the Greek Theater. And again, I've seen
everything under the sun. Just take a wild guess. Just
shout out a random name, because I guarantee you in
a thousand years you will never get it.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Uh, I'm gonna say, was it you mean like the
rowdiest or just the rudest.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
The rudest Oh okay, okay, like it was the worst thing.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Got to be for probably, like.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
The worst thing.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Got to be one of the really big like pop stars.
I'm gonna guess Olivia Rodrigo.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
No no, I mean I told you guests for a
thousand years. It was actually, of all people, it was
Neil Diamond.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
What my next guest is gonna be? Ringo star.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Neil Diamond. Crowd was it was hilarious. And first of all, okay,
so I've known Neil and his manager wife for years,
so we had like the best seats in the house.
So there were people behind us, like these old people,
like you know, they were in their sixties seventies. And
what's amazing was the sense of entitlement. And this port
woman never shut up during the show. She's kept talking.
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And finally, my who is like, you know, will say
anything to me, but was kind of, you know, very
like mousey in public. Just this woman never shut up.
But I mean, these people were insane. Okay, I swear
to fucking god. This guy was in his seventies and
now she comes over and tells me to put a
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cigarette out, and he goes, it's not mine. He's like, dude,
I see you holding it. He's like, it's not mine.
And the guy who's like arguing with him, and he's
like in his seventies. These people were insane. So finally
like they would not stop talking so bad, and my
extra just turns around and goes, would you start the
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fuck up? And like this woman looked like she had
just been like assaulted, and she's like, oh. And the
funny thing is I was telling Neil's wife manager after
the show and they were cracking up. But I mean,
this crowd was so badly behaved. I'm not kidding. We
also saw like gomesticas disturbance that I had to be
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like stop by security guards. Two people in their like seventies,
and this guy was like fighting with his wife and
they had to be broken up by security guards. And
the other problem is these people never go out, so
when they do go out, they've saved it up for
a year. And they also feel very entitled.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Okay, all right, that's good to know. So never attend
and you'll Joe.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
It's not his fault. The craft sucks. And the other
one that I saw, the only show I've ever been
afraid at was Backstreet Boys in Chicago.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Yeah, I bet, I bet what year.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Was that it was? Why did you? That's but and
I'm friends with Backstreet Boys. I literally just interviewed AJ
for the podcast like two weeks ago. Great, dude, But
I swear to god there were over ten thousand people there.
We were there, pleza. I was with two girls that
were upsessed with Backstreet Boys, so we took off from
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the loser when to Backstreet boys. There were over ten
thousand people there. There were twelve fucking guys in the
place out of ten thousand, and this crowd was like
again the soccer moms. Dude, I'm in the bathroom and
there's these two guys like, you know, yelling to each
other at the urinal their friends, like they weren't arguing,
you know, but and the one guy, it's like, hey,
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where's Aaron or Amber or whatever the hell her name was?
And this guy just literally the bathroom full of people
is like and again, these dudes are in their thirties.
He's like, oh, she's digging some guy in the bushes.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Oh alrighty.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Then I mean the soccer mom's man, when they go out,
they lose their fucking mind.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Yeah, yeah, they say good girls gone gone wild for sure.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
Well, because they never go out, so when they do,
it's like, yeah, it's a free for all exactly. It's like, again,
you save up all that energy. It's interesting now that
you say the worst crowds with the ed M crowds
because I always found like an EDC they were the
most polite, Like they were very they were very polite,
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Like you know, I mean, yeah, I've seen more than
more than a few people pulled down on a stretcher,
you know, and before the show even starts, it's like
you can't do hold your shit. That's embarrassing.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Yeah, that happens a lot. Like it's definitely become kind
of a party scene. So kids just go in with
like three beat boxes deep and just do not come
out on the other end unfortunately.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
So what what have been like, You're like, what have
been the best shows to bartend now? In terms of
like people just being cool and in terms of tips,
and in terms of like again like you know, what
do people do?
Speaker 2 (11:01):
You know?
Speaker 1 (11:03):
That's good. It's opposed to leaving random drugs that you know,
then they come back and they're like, dude, I forgot
my coke? Do you know where I left it?
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Oh? Yeah, that was unfortunate for.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
That does sound like a bad movie. Man, it would
make a really funny movie.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Yeah, that is a good scene. I could definitely see
that that in a good comedy movie, just like this
Life of a La Bartender trying to make it for.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Sure from the Keno from the concert gar perspective, like
they're in the show, they're getting ready to do a
bump and it's like, fuck, where's the coke? And now
they're running out through the whole bendy like where do
we leave? It's like, you know, the the you know,
narcotics version of dude, where's my car?
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Yeah, oh my gosh, I have a feeling that that
happens a pretty frequently.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
I don't know. I never liked to poke about drugs,
so I mean I never left it anywhere.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Me neither, luckily, you know.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
Just play once And honestly, it was with a famous
band who I will not name publicly. They literally it
was a big band and they literally skip their encore
to go with us to get drugs.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Life in the music.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Industry, it literally like did a sole up show at
the Ford Theater, which is an amazing place, and then
rather than do a non card they're like, okay, let's
go get the bluff.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Hey. Yeah, Life of a rock star? What can I say? Well,
better than.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
I Life of a hot bartender. You have to have
a lot of story.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
So yeah, I would say the best crowd probably typically
skews more middle aged, you know, not not broke college
kids unfortunately, or but they're still young enough to go
out and drink and have a good time. But I
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would say that metal crowd, like the goth metal they
look scarier than they really are. They're actually again some
of the nicest people I've probably gotten to a bartend for.
And when you do concerts you get so many different demographics,
and I would have to say that's probably my favorite.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
There. Yeah. No, I've never had a pubb with the
metal crowds except the one time but I was just
a kid where I was seeing Judas Priests at the
log Each Arena and there's huge fight broke out in
the crowd after the show. And the funniest thing was
many many many years later, I was interviewing Rob Halford
and I was like, do you remember that night? And
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he's like, Rob Halford, of course is the lead singer
of Juus Priest, a metal god, And I was like,
do you remember that show? And he's like, oh, yeah,
that was in Long Beach. I was doing a bunch
of blow in the back of the Queen Mary after
that show.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
Yeah, I'm sensing a trend here.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
Yeah, as a fan, you know, tell everybody this sort.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
I mean.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
Again, usually when you're a really attractive woman, the last
thing you have to worry about his show is being
punched in the face. And yet somehow you've been victimized.
It's funny because I'm talking to another friend about, you know,
this topic, and we're talking about getting like pickpocketed. You're
the only person I know who this happens to, like
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on a regular basis.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Being pocketed. My I have been pickpocketed a couple times
in Los Angeles. They're really talented here, Like I don't
I don't know what to to say. I've caught them
a few times too, like mid mid pickpocket. But uh, yeah,
I've had my phone stolen, I've had my wallet stolen
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all at you know, the the gay bars. That's a
big problem in West Hollywood. And then yeah, at these
bigger festivals or these DM concerts, that's also very common unfortunately.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
And what was the show that you got punched in
the pace at? And tell that story again.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Yeah, So I was at a show in downtown LA
to see Clooney and he was right about to come on.
I was there with two of my friends, and basically
my smaller girlfriend was kind of leading the way through
the crowd and kind of got stuck, and this guy
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starts yelling at her like you're not gonna stay there,
are you? Like what are you doing? Like you can't
stand there? And I kind of turned for a second
to look for a different direction we can move, and
then I turned back and I see her now in
between two people, a guy and a girl. I'm assuming
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his girlfriend, and now they're both screaming at her. And
I literally turn around and I'm just like, hey, like,
what's going on, what's the problem? And this shorter the
shorter girl comes up to me yells a couple words
that I can't hear, and then she just immediately socks
me like in the face, and we are pulled apart
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by the crowd immediately, like people grab us before I
can even react. I didn't fall down or anything when
she punched me, but I was just kind of like wow,
and I get pushed to the front and it turns
out I'm actually like gushing blood down my lip. She
had split my lip open, and the security had to
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pull me over the front rails to get me to
the medic tent. And so me and my one friend
who was getting screamed at, who's now I'm scathed, both
go over the rails and we head to the medic tent.
And I have this like beautiful fat lip that is
just bleeding everywhere, and yeah, they basically give me ice
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and you know, pressure, but that's really all we could
do after that. And luckily for me, I guess my
male friend that was left behind in the crowd, he
ended up like getting in a little bit of a
scuffle with the boyfriend, so they kind of got some
karma coming back to them afterwards. Because I was pretty
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angry because I really didn't do anything and I wasn't
trying to to fight anyone in this moment. It was
just very unfortunate.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Since she had thrown out of the venue.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
Uh so I guess after his our friend's situation with
the boyfriend, she was like crying and they must have left.
It was so crowded. The the EMTs or the medics
wanted me to file a police report and try and
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get her kicked out. But once they came and I
knew this was going to happen, I was like, yeah,
there's somewhere in the crowd. I recognized her, but there's
a thousand people here, you know, the odds of us
being able to find them again are pretty slim. And
they were like, yeah, unfortunately, that's kind of how it works.
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So yeah, I sent the police on their way and
hopefully they left. We didn't see them, and we just
tried to enjoy the rest of the night with the
ice pack amellet all time.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
So and then you had your phone, Like, what is
it about you that just brings out the worst of
people with the puck.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
I think the phone thing is not unique to me.
It's actually a pretty big problem. Like you'll see these
guys with like hundreds of phones when they get caught
in a bag. So it's definitely not just me with
the with the pick pocketing. But I actually saw the
guy who did it because it was in my front
pocket and he had like bumped into me and kind
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of like looked at me, and I didn't register exactly
what he was doing, But after we had stepped a
few feet away, I realized, oh, I didn't have my phone.
He was probably stealing my phone, And but by that
time they were already gone, like out of the venue.
They trat we tracked the phone and was outside the
venue and then they had shut it off.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
So so what have then your concert experiences?
Speaker 2 (20:03):
S concert experience? Okay, so back in the Warped Tour days,
my cousin was in a pretty popular I guess you
could say alternative band club, the Cab, and we got
to go backstage and be on stage kind of like
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beside curtains while they were playing on the main stage.
This is in the Comcast Center, I believe, which is
in Hartford, Connecticut. But it was pretty cool and I
got to see their tour bus. I was like fourteen,
it was. It was pretty lit. I was pretty excited
about it. So it was one of my earlier on concerts.
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Obviously I'm fourteen at the time, so it was just
really fun to be able to have that experience at
such a young age.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
For sure. Good for you now, Like what, like I
had so many go those just shows. What are the
best things people do and what are the most annoying
things people do, you know besides punching you in the face,
so obviously, which is only half the once thankful, like
still the only person I know the tap Like when
you're in a crowded show, like what you know, what
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are the good vibes and what are the things that
like you know, just sort of like dude, like what
the fuck is wrong with you?
Speaker 2 (21:26):
One thing I hate is I am a big adm
like house fan. And what is really popular in the
community is people, specifically women. They have these fans, but
they clack them. It's called like fan clacking, and it's
basically them whipping it open and closed constantly, and or
the the I hate that. That's that drives me insane,
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Like don't ruin the music with they're whooping over there
or whatever noises you're making. Uh, it drives me crazy.
But honestly, the pushing, like oh, an artist comes on,
your immediate reaction is to push, don't be rude. We're
all here to see the same person. Those are probably
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top top three least favorite, Like the best behavior is
when you're all just there enjoying it community, like you
help each other, you know, you give each other water,
you tell each other to have, like you know, sunscreen,
you're getting burnt, especially in these like longer day festivals
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or shows that you might go to, Like you really
see some camaraderie at some shows and others.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
Not so much.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
But when you have the right energy, you have to
make sure you have the right energy unfortunately, Like there
are some artists that I really love, but they just
bring the wrong kind of people.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
Like who's the artists that you love that you just
are like, you know, like it's funny, right. I've interviewed
Dave Matthews many times. I love Dave Matthews both as
a person, kind of like his music. But we've even
talked about the fucking prat boy stock Boy Stockbroken crowd,
like they're all drunk. They're like, no, the band is amazing.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
I know. I agree. I would have to say the
show where I got punched at is Clooney, and I
have seen him a few times. In the crowd, at
least when i've seen him in Los Angeles has always
been super rough and they're just like like climbing fences
and statues and like shaking like they're doing all sorts
(23:45):
of crazy stuff. And a John Summit crowd is pretty
tough as well. He's really big right now, so I
think he kind of just brings everyone, including that like
frat boy crowd that's kind of his look these days.
So yeah, definitely like young frat boy crowd. It's just
(24:09):
not the vibe. You want to know what other genre
that's blowing up is K pop. It's really young. But
those as a bartender, I hate working it because they
don't drink it all. They don't drink at all. And
I don't know what because it's they're so young, but
(24:29):
they don't drink at all. But they are very polite.
I will give them that.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
I saw Sean Mendez years ago Staple Center when it
was still Staple Center, and you know, like this was
maybe six seven years ago. I've never experienced set a
show ever. There was no one literally there were four
people at the bar me and my day we ran
(24:55):
into two people.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
I know.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
That was like the crowd was so young. There was
literally four people there and it was so awkward, and
I mean, I'm like, no, I'm good, I'm not seeing
this again.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
Yeah. Yeah, as a bartender, honestly, I'll deal with a
bad crowd as long as they're drinking and tipping to
some extent, working kind of kid shows where it's a
twenty one and under, it's just not fun. As a bartender.
You serve water all day and you stand around kind
(25:31):
of sitting on your hands.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
So it's the most fun show, even a bartended.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
Trying to. So we've done a lot of comedy shows. Actually,
when Netflix is a joke kind of runs their comedy
specials every year and films them all over Los Angeles.
Say like, as a bartender, if you can also hear
(26:04):
the set, it's really funny and cool. Sometimes depending on
the comedian, they'll take your phones even like the staff,
which is a little annoying because they don't want anything
from their set leaking before it drops on, you know,
Netflix or whatever streaming service that they're planning to drop
(26:25):
it on. But the crowds are always like they're always
there to drink but not be obnoxious, and it's like
they come in like these big rushes. So it's like
you get a bunch of people in the beginning kind
of get to relax, reset. There's usually some form of intermission.
Sometimes there's a couple openers, and you get like big rushes.
So it's good money. Sometimes you can do two in
(26:47):
a day, which is great because you just like flip
the one back to back. I've done that at the
will Turn where they have back to back people, and
those shifts are always fun and it's like, yeah, you
get to hear the artists or whoever is performing their
set like before anyone else does, which is really cool
(27:08):
as well. Those are probably some of my favorite honestly,
which I know is in music.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
But the right right s concer that it gets so
for you, as someone who's both worked in that industry
and been to many shows and had many memorable experiences,
you know probably something that you have not told me
about as well, Like what is like what advice do
you up for people going to shows, like in terms
(27:35):
of behavior and like how to not get your phone solen,
how to not get punched in the face, which you.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
Know, and I don't have advice on because I don't
even know how it happened in the first place. To
not get your phone stolen, what I've had to do
is literally tether my phone to my body. So get
something that's crossbodied and that you can clip your phone to,
don't have it in your pocket. Don't have a fanny
pack on unless it's like through your belt loops, because
(28:04):
they'll steal the fanny pack right off you. That happened
to my friend at a Clooney concert in Like, yeah,
you really just got to be super careless. They're so
good at it, which is tough because a lot of
people are partying, they're drinking. You kind of aren't really
paying attention. You're with your friends, you're in a big crowd,
(28:26):
so you really just have to be cognizant of that.
And what was the other.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
Question, Like, yeah, just seeing him how to behave and
like how to have fun and like what you know, don't.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
Be an asshole, Like if you don't want to be pushed,
don't push other people. Like, don't get too drunk. It's
a marathon, not a sprint, So don't pregame with eight
shots in your car before you walk in because you
don't want to pay for drinks because then you're not
gonna make it to the end of the day, especially
if you're doing a festival or show. Drink water, Like, please,
(29:07):
dear God, drink water. Eat food. You need to fuel
your body to get through these long hours of standing, sweating,
whatever you're doing. Please eat your food, to drink water.
That's probably the number one thing because otherwise it's just
downhill from there.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
All right, who's the coolest person, Like who's the coolest
celebrity that you ever? You know, like waiting on okay?
Speaker 2 (29:36):
Oh gosh, I'm trying to think. There are a lot
of like very mediocre, like you're like, oh, that was okay,
But the best celebrity, Oh, actually I know who it is,
So Rob Gronkowski. I used to do a bottle service
at a casino in New England and he came and
(29:59):
he literally was the nicest guy. Like he's actually the
exact person you see on television like goofy, but like
really sweet, really nice. He tipped like everyone in like
gave everyone like a hundred dollars bill, like every girl
that was there, like was very polite. Uh, it was like, oh,
have champagne with us, like just loved like he loved
(30:21):
to have a good time and just was really like
a nice guy. So probably my favorite person to have
waited on with him?
Speaker 1 (30:31):
All Right, So for you as a concert fan, there's
certain people you won't go see again. Is there anyone
you'll see just because the crowd is so awesome?
Speaker 2 (30:40):
I have to go see because the crowd is so awesome.
I'm trying to think.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
Or who will you tolerate just you know, like I mean,
because it's funny. When we first met, you were going
to a Travis Scott show GA in someplace Northeast I
don't remember, but like by yourself, which I was insane.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
I have floor tickets actually, and to his concert in
New Jersey. I was home for the holidays in Connecticut
and it was like January twod or something, and floor
tickets were a lot cheaper than they were on the
West Coast, so I was like, yeah, I'm going to
(31:27):
do that. Actually, everyone was really nice. It was not
over sold or overcrowded. This is after the whole Astro
World thing, so I think they were very careful with
the ticket sales and security this time around.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
Yeah, I mean, you know, all all shoves, I would
think that would be the one that, like also just
being there like by yourself, I would think that would
be the one where you would like get pushed the
most and all that.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
But you know, yeah, it wasn't bad. It was only
like three people deep, but I think on the floor
three ros it wasn't interesting.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
All right, So any other concert advice.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
I'm trying to think who I also really liked? Okay,
if you really like like visual artists, Anima He kind
of blew up in the trans World and has had
a residency at the Spear, which is really cool. He
has like these super cool end of Genesis is this
(32:37):
thing and it's like this robot lady and it's it's
very beautiful, and I think that would be the artist
I would go see despite the crowd, And the crowd
wasn't mean or rude, but it's just the fact that
they had their phones out recording the entire time, because
it's a very visual show and I was just like,
please just watch it, like it's cool, take some videos,
(32:57):
but like there are people who just had their phones
out the entire time, and I was like, this is
just annoying, and like no one's dancing. There was holding
their phones, not not not the vite.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
Well, what do you want to add? We can talk
about m I said, what do you want to add?
We did not talk about.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
Oh, I'm trying to think what what was your favorite
show that you've seen, like ever like your top.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
And why, well what's ethely the Union to show at
the O two arena because it can't be topped? I mean,
I was like it was funny because I kind of
thought that it would just be like a nostalgia thing
and it was the greatest thing I've ever seen. I
was like, it was two thousand and seven, and you know,
(33:50):
first of all, there were only twelve American journalists who
got to go. And then you know, and I was
covering for AOL and they were like, look, we're not
sending you because you know, there's like a million people
in London who want to cover it, but if you
want to get to yourself, go ahead. And it's funny
because the rumor was that they were going to tour
(34:11):
the US and I was like, you know, so I
almost didn't go. And then I asked my friend who
books Coachella, and you know, I'm like, well, what do
you think because I've heard they playing Coachella. And what
he said to me that I'll never forget was he goes,
no matter what happens, that first show is going to
be special. And I was like, dude, you're riding that.
That's my favorite band. I've always wanted to see them.
(34:34):
It was the greatest singles show that could ever be.
I love that for you, but I mean, it was
like it was insane. I went to London for four
days to see Led Zeppelin there were. It's so funny
because like people think, like you know, shows like Terriswood
for Beyonce or like bag Gets and it's like, no
(34:56):
disrespect to either of them. They're both grades. There were
there were twenty million people who applied for eighteen thousand
tickets from fifty countries. This was like, you know, do
you think.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
The crowds in Europe are better than the United States?
Speaker 1 (35:15):
I mean, that show is so special it's hard to say.
I met someone after the show, like just coming out
who literally was from Northeast Canada. You know how fucking
cool that is. The dude sold his truck so he
can come to London for the show. He literally is
walking to work every day because again it's the only
(35:36):
fun show Led Zeppelin I've ever done.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
That's yeah, that is a special show. I'm glad they
came through. That sounds really cool. And honestly, I've heard
from just like artists interviews that European crowds are better
because they don't go there as often, So I was
wondering your opinion. I would really love to go see
more shows abroad when I travel.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
There, but it also depends on what, you know, what
you're seeing in the US. Yeah, true, Yeah, I have
never had problems at raves, you know. But the other
thing being, by the way, I have all access from
(36:22):
backstage and no one's stealing my chit.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
Yeah. See, I like to be a little plebean and
hang out in the crowds with the Sometimes I get,
you know, my VIP tickets, but uh, I've kind of like.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
Do you really to be Plebeian or you know.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
It depends, like you really want to get that community vibe.
I it was funny because my uncle used to run
a bunch of nightclubs in Boston and New England, and
obviously I never had to be in g A, but
I will be all the time just because it was
fun and just wanted to dance. No one was like
(37:04):
standing around. They didn't care what they looked like or
if they were cool.
Speaker 1 (37:07):
Or not cool.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
They were just enjoying it. So I do enjoy that
aspect of it.
Speaker 1 (37:13):
If it's someone I really want to see, then yes
I will be in the crowd. Like nine Channes of Coachella,
I would never be in VIP like you know, there,
I was at the front, but it was like you know,
I mean and actually it's funny because you're doing your
first Coachella. The VIP grads of Coachella the worst people
I've ever seen there. So you know what it is.
(37:35):
I hate fucking entitled people. You're not fucking special just
because your fucking mother told you you were special. She
fucking wied to you. You're a piece of shit. You've
never done anything, No one cares about you. You're worthless.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
That's like everyone, uh kind of in LA who's mom
just told them they were so special and then they
all wanted to come.
Speaker 1 (38:01):
I know you're like, oh, you know, no, you're really not.
You've never done anything, you have no talent. You know
there are people who actually are special, but you know
you're not one of them, just because says, of course
you're great at what you do. But what the fuck
do you do? You literally like, hey, can I have
(38:26):
guest list? Do you know who my daddy is? You
probably don't even know who your daddy is.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
I bought my tickets with my own money, my own dollars.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
So it's just stupid because I told you I would
have gotten you in. But I mean, influencers to me
are just like the worst, the worst.
Speaker 2 (38:51):
I don't interact with a lot of them, unfortunately or
unfortunately maybe.
Speaker 1 (38:58):
I actually that's the one should coach out once, because
if this person didn't stop talking, I was like, I'm
going to literally smash your head on the table.
Speaker 2 (39:05):
We're going, oh, well, that's aggressive.
Speaker 1 (39:11):
He was like, my dog had just died the week before.
So I was there just because I was like, well,
I don't know, I could be home and miserable. Good
tell and miserable. Amax sent me as idiot was at
the table like he literally was like, oh, last night,
I was at a party at you know, on the
Coachella grounds. That roof is the soul we're playing and
(39:33):
then you know, but I found out there was an
Amazon party that we're going I was at, and he's like,
it's my lot in life to be at the wrong part,
to have the wrong wristband, And I'm like, you are
the most pathetic little bitch I've ever heard. And it
was funny because a month later or months later, as
with the mixed people, and they're like, we know exactly
who you're talking about.
Speaker 2 (39:53):
Unfortunate.
Speaker 1 (39:54):
So I think I would have been justified smashing his head,
but I was like, no, I don't want to do that,
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