March 18, 2020 • 33 mins
Are you afraid of the dark?
You're not alone. And by that, we mean there are many others just like you -- people whose sleep is affected by stress, anxiety, and things that go bump in the night. Often when we try to sleep, the worries of the world join us. And for some, dark energy from the unseen realms finds a way in.
Deep, restorative sleep is essential to your health in every way. Tune in today as we discuss the science and personal experiences of Dream States. Find comfort and a safe space if Sleep Paralysis is something you have experienced. Join us and learn new centering practices and spiritual tools from the Other Side that will help guide you to more peaceful slumber.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hi, y'all, I'm Julie. Hi there, I'm Brenda. Welcome to
Insider's Guide to the Other Side. Now y'all need to
know that we are obsessed with everything on the other side.
Yes we are, because once you learn to navigate the energetic,
or to some the invisible world, life is going to
be more fun and much more serene. Heck, yes it can,
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because let's be honest, brand earth school is hard. In fact,
you taught me that. Let's crush Earth School together. Welcome
to Insider's Guide to the Other Side, A production of
My Heart Ratio. Hey Brian, Hello my elf. I'm so
glad you finally called me your elf again. It feels
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like you're mad at me. If you tell me about
my name, it feels weird coming out of my mouth.
It's like I haven't heard you say my name, and
it's like, wait, I get in trouble. So it feels like,
so the next thing I know, You're gonna say Julie
Ann and all of a sudden, I'm going to like
shrivel up and hide under the table because I'm going
to get yelled at or something. That's such a great opener,
because today we're talking about being afraid. Perfect, perfect, It's
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fantastic because last week we talked about why we sleep,
and so this is how important sleep is, right, How important? Right,
that's why we're talking about this. It's critical for obviously
navigating the Earth world in Earth School, but also for
our spiritual side as well. And then this week we
are talking about being afraid to sleep. And what was
so interesting is last week I'm I'm telling Susanne, who
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feels like a third host by the way, in the show,
I talked about her so much, and every once in
a while she'll listen to an episode she'll look at
me and I'll be like, hey, man, you signed up
for this. You didn't know you signed up for it,
but you did. But after the last one, I was
talking to Susanne about it, and she was telling me
about an NPR interview that she heard. Yes, my wife
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listens to NPR. I don't, but my wife does because
she's harder than me. And and she listened to an
interview by a guy named doctor I think his name
is guy um doctor guy less a guy named a
guy named Dr Guy so doctor guy Lessinger I think
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is his name, who wrote a book called Nocturnal Brain.
So I decided to read it. This is coming from
the girl who made it through college without reading a
single book. Now all I do is read, cannot get enough.
And I take it at everyone's suggestion, especially my wife.
So I read it, and she knew that it would
piss me off. And I think that's why she told
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me about it. Maybe I got something for you. It's like, yeah, here, honey,
I'm gonna get you all riled up. Read this book, right,
um so so in his book, he talks a lot
about us being afraid to sleep. So I think that
you know, we have countless reasons why we have trouble sleeping,
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right brand And don't you think fear is at the
top of that list, well, fear and stress. Right So
what we get stressed out about is individualized or some
of us will worry about something in the future, some
of us will worry about things that are in the past.
Some of us just have a general anxiety about life
in general, or about how you're going to do with
someone or something. So there's there's just this anxiety or
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stress level happening, and when it doesn't dissipate, it's really
hard to sleep and when we have these patterns, we
sometimes think that we're actually afraid to go to bed
because we develop such a pattern where we get like
this every night. We're worrying every night, well somewhere unconsciously,
now consciously, people are walking around going I can't go
to bed because that's where the stress is. But what
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happens is because we don't have other things to distract
us when we lie down to sleep. We don't have
our phones, we don't have we're not talking to our friends,
we're not talking to our family, we're not watching screens
that we then have to act acknowledge the stress that
we're carrying throughout our day with throughout our thoughts. And
there's another I think fear that weirdly was thrust into
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my world, uh called sleep paralysis. And so we're going
to dive into that too, because that's that's a real
fear that people have, and so we're going to go
into that. But I what I'd love to do is
to talk about more technical, scientific, biological aspects of sleep,
just to give everybody, um, I think, a baseline, because
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before I think, I confess that I thought ram sleep
was a band. So maybe I'm doing this for my
own benefit, but there's bound to be somebody else out
there who will actually benefit from it, there's no doubt.
So we'll do a little bit of science asleep. So
deep sleep is when our heart rate is the slowest
and it's really hard to wake someone up during this time.
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This is that time when I look at my sleep
pattern when I'm in deep sleep, there's a zero movement
going on because I am just out right. So that's
deep Or if you wake up during that time, you
wake up really groggy, like where am I? What? What
day is it? Like? You don't you know that? When
you wake up, you're like, okay, it's Tuesday. I've got
this going on, and get that going on that clarity.
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You wake up from a light sleep, Oh I have
woken up traveling and wanted where the hell am I?
That was deep sleep. That was the alarm going off
for the front desk calling or whatever it was. It's
like time to get up and whatever time zone, and
it's like, wait, where am I again? That's totally waking
up in deep sleep. So light sleep is where we
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spend most of our time in. So light sleep is
what you were just referring to. So clearly it's it's
called light sleep because it's not deep sleep. Gafi, right,
I think they got very clever when they started naming
our sleep cycles. Um Rim is the one that I
think is interesting because our scientists didn't just scover rem
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sleep until the fifties. So our brain is busy and
this is when we dream. So what also happens during
this kind of dream time is that our brain shuts
off our limbs. Is that the right way to say it.
That's probably not that it actually temporarily paralyzes our limbs,
so we don't act out our dreams in our sleep. Now,
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this doesn't always work. There's a lot of misfires with this.
I know that my best friend Cubby, she is always
like slinging her arms around and hitting Ronda on the
head and whatever she does and like runs dive on
the ground the you know void Kim because she's six
ft tall, so you know, those limbs are long, that
wingspan the pterodactyl coming in paradactyl, she could touch both
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sides of this sound booth right just by sitting or
I'm sitting and I'm like feet away from him. Um
So there's misfires that happen, um, But for all intents
and purposes, that's what our body is supposed to do,
is that it temporarily paralyzes our arms and legs. And
chances are when she he's moving around like that, she's
not in REM right, Um, she's probably she's probably light
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light sleep. So when we move from REM into full
awareness or full awakeness, sometimes that paralysis stays in the
on position. So if you imagine a switch, right, So
when we go into RAM, our brain switches that paralyze
mode on and then when we wait get supposed to
turn it off. Not in all cases that that happens.
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And so that's where I think they got the term
sleep paralysis from. So scientifically there is an explanation why
people can feel paralyzed but they're awake, right. So this
I think is agreeable amongst all the people. Now, what
science says happens in sleep paralysis is actually where I
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lose my mind. So Dr Guy, I'm gonna stop trying
to pronounce his last name because I cannot, so we're
to call him doctor Guy, who I'm assuming is a
fabulous doctor. He wrote a really great book. But this
is where I think my disagreement is at its highest.
The nightmares, let's call them nightmares that we experience, the
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demons that we see in here while we're awake during paralysis,
they claim our hallucinations. And that's where my mind blows up. Now,
what's interesting about these hallucinations is that they've been referenced
in Mesopotamian. I almost got it right, Mesopotamian. Well, thank you, fantastic,
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thank you. I can't say burglar either, it always comes
out like that, it's fine or nuclear or um. So
I've been referenced in Mesopotamian texts um since before twenty
four hundred BC. So it's not like this whole idea
of nightmares or night terrors is anything new. And even
add on to it, um that that people who have
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experienced sleep paralysis what they see has been documented for
thousands of years, and so they see a lot of
the same entities in different parts of the world, different
classes of people, different everything, and they have not spoken before.
So it's not ironic, right, It's not an accident that
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what everybody sees is the same thing. Because what got
me is when he said, dealing with um this issue
of like having paralysis in your body, um staying in
that state, but your mind waking up that can be
taken care of with a pill. Is effectively what he said.
And then he goes on and says, yes, and we
have hallucinations. That's another drug. I'm like, oh my god,
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so we're going to drug people for everything, right, So
I start to lose a little bit um on on that,
because what he is assuming is that we are a
piece of meat that is run by electrical currents. Well,
and I would remind you that when we have a
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hammer that we trust and love, we assume everything's a nail. Yeah,
So that's what he's doing, and that's what he knows.
So that's, of course what he's gonna talk about. We're
going to talk more about this when we come back
from our next break. All right, we're back. We were
talking about being pieces of meat. He's staying in his lane, right,
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That's what I'd say. He's staying in his lane. Now,
you're just so kind. But here's what we should consider,
and this is what we've talked about the last couple
of episodes, is that we are spirits having a human experience,
and when our body needs to rest our, spirit doesn't
necessarily need to sleep. I used to love one of
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my old bosses. Um, he used to work us. Oh
my god, I used to work us to death. And
he would say, people would be kind of tired. Would
be eleven o'clock at night, twelve o'clock at night, we're
working on a movie or some um you know, marketing
for one of our movies. And he'd say, well, you
can sleep when you're dead. And I'm like, actually, you
don't sleep when you're dead, not at all. You have
this all wrong, But that's okay because you don't have
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a liver that needs to clean your blood, right exactly,
So we don't sleep when we're dead. Um. So you
think funny. So so spirits don't need to sleep. Um.
So if you think about what happens when our body
is paralyzed in that sleep paralysis state, that our spirit
is is been busy, right, it's out. It could be
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out partying the astral plane, could be you could have
a ticket to the astral plane. Um. And what I
think is interesting is what I mentioned before about all
of the people who have described what they experienced during
the sleep paralysis, and it can be horrifying. Now there
are some people that have reported that they don't have
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any scary experiences, but what most people do experience during
this could be quite frightening. And so let me just
tell everybody what those things are. And I'm guaranteeing you
there are people listening to this right now they're like,
holy crap, that's me because that's what I have found
in the last year plus, are all these people that
struggle from it, but they're too afraid to say anything.
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They're embarrassed, they think something's wrong with that. It's also
not conversation you have in plaited company, right, I mean,
like people don't feel free to say, hey, I had
this night terror, Like it's just not common conversation. I
found that they don't even talk to their families about it,
Like they don't talk to the closest friends about it.
And so Alex was my first and we're going to
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use his name because he's Alex, he's not Jim. And
so Alex is the first one that I really encountered
that that experiences. And the only one who knew anything
about it was his wife. And the only reason he
told her was because when he is in that in
that sleep paralysis place that he would think that he
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was screaming, but he was whispering. He thought he was
screaming Dawn and he would be saying don And so
he had to explain to her what was going on
during that time. So Alex dealt with sleep proalysis for
the time that he was nine years old. And he's
the one who introduced me to a little bit of
the history, at least our modern day history. Um Wes Craven,
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who wrote the movies UM Nightmare on Elm Street, suffers
from sleep paralysis. So he stayed in his lane. He
knew the territory, right, He stayed in his line. He
very much knows right. So Freddie Krueger is actually modeled
from this entity creature that people have seen for thousands
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of years called the hat Man. So think about Freddy Krueger.
He wears a hat. He showed U and uh so,
so he actually decided to make a move it. So
I love filmmakers. Sometimes you're the great storytellers. Like I've
been suffering from this my whole life. So I'm going
to create a movie that embodies the terror that I
have lived with, you know, and take control back, and
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take control back. So Alex told me about you know,
Wes craven Um and about Freddy Krueger be in the
hat Man. And then he started to tell me his
story and his story from the time he was nine
years old until I met him. I think he was
probably in his early thirties, that a few times a
month he would be in this state where he couldn't
move a muscle and he could feel this impending doom,
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this sense that somebody else was around. Then he started
to see this entity called the hat Man. And what's
very common from people is it's not like a physical person,
but they see the outline of a man wearing like
a fedoredored fedora. We weren't taught that in Oklahoma. We
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didn't have fedoras, we didn't have those that we didn't
make cowboy hats. Um. But he'd be wearing this hat.
And then many people would say that he'd have like
these um uh, beaming red eyes, and he could be
wearing like a trench coat something like that, and Alex
would be like, I've never been more afraid in my
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life than when I slept. So I didn't know much
about it, and actually didn't know anything about it. I
only knew Friday and so I believe I called you,
which is normally who I call. You know, they say
who you're gonna call, not ghostbusters, I call Brenda. UM,
So I called you and UM. We talked a lot
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about help me understand it. I also read a few
books about it, which was really fascinating. And as I
was kind of going through this, I started to understand
that when we are disconnected, like when our bodies disconnected
from our spirit in that way, that there are certain
things that have the ability to kind of get in
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there right. They can kind of wedge their way in there,
and this I think being one of them. And so
what I talked to Alex about was, I go, we
need to find something that that has the energy to
protect you, and you need to be doing things that
protect yourself. And I said, and don't forget your father now,
be because he's a typical guy, and typical guys like
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be like, well wait till I see him next, you know,
he's all badass or something like wait till he gets
a load of me. I'm like, no, honey, here's what
you're gonna do. And so I gave him some black
turmaline to keep on his bedside table because it cast
a shield of protection. And then I talked about prayer
with him, and what was so fascinating for him is
that he never had it again until he left his
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black turmaline at home one day when he was traveling
to Seattle. I had multiple people with the same situation
and gave them this same suggestion, and they never had
to deal with it again. What I gave him was
not a pill. What I gave him was a rock
and hope and power that they don't have to do this.
Because what's really fascinating is that you can really start
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reading about people who experienced this. And there was a
gentleman who claimed that when he was in Pratt Prolysis,
he he spoke to the hat Man and when I say,
speak more about in his mind, spoke to him and said,
who are you? And the hat man responded and he said,
they call me Scratch, and Scratch is the name that
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they had for the devil during the days of Adam
and Eve when the serpent tried to move them away
from God. So this is a a character, let's say,
and archetype that scares the hell out of people. And
so as I started talking to people more about it
more and more people started to show up, and then
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more and more people started to show up, and and
I think that I came up with a list of
things to to recommend to folks that they could try. Um,
so they're no longer afraid to sleep, because there are
people that were coming to me that we're saying, I
don't want to sleep. I'm afraid when I lay in
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bed because I don't want to go experience that. I
don't want the hag that sits on my chest, I
don't want the hat man that tries to scare the
hell out of me. Like people are literally afraid for
their life while they're in this sleep mode. I think
you've experienced something when you were a kid. I've experienced
it a couple of times where you um, well you
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just can't move, you can't make a sound, and you um,
it feels like you're going to die. That's what people
have reported to me. And you kind of hope you
do because it's terrifying and you just wanted over and
there's nothing you can do now for me. Um. But
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you know, when I was a kid, I didn't know.
Even as a young adult, I didn't know. Obviously, today
I would have very different UM tools available to me
that would take care of it, but it hasn't happened
a long time. So the number one tool I think
for people who struggle with this UM is St. Michael.
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We've talked about St. Michael before we talked about Michael. Yeah,
we talked about Archangel Michael for UM Halloween Preppers, I believe,
and Archangel Michael is when I had talked to Alex
and others about this, I said, if he shows up
and if you're afraid, call I called him, say my
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call on Archangel Michael. And because he will come in
sorting and what is so funny? Brand I was just
talking to somebody about this, and I don't know if
you remember, UM when we were talking about how we
talked to dead people and you said, they're gonna start
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showing you movies and actors, right, okay, so let me
tell you who they show me now. When I when
I was talking about St. Michael one day not long ago,
and they said, well, what does he look like? I went, huh,
Russell Crowe and Gladiator. That is what they showed man.
So for those that want to have a visual of
Archangel Michael, in my world, he looks like russ Crow
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and Gladiator. Um, but that's the number one thing, like
if you're in that place but in ways that you can't, like,
let's call it preventative. Is In fact, we've talked about
this before about trying to get to sleep, how we
use lavender. The lavender is also protection. So one of
the things that seems to work for folks. And I
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just got an email from this really lovely woman who
came to me struggling with this and she sent actually
was a text, and she sent it and I got
it yesterday and were telling I got this text yesterday,
and she goes, you fixed me. I'm fixed. I haven't
dealt with sleep paralysis. And what she did was she
would take a bath every night, UM, and she would
use Epps and salt and lavender because salt protection well
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as salt is definitely protection, but salt also clears, right,
so it's clearing things off of your energetic body, your
physical body, and then um, the the the lavender acts
as the protection agent with that. So she started doing that.
She also UM, I had asked her if she could
find some selenite, because after you take a bath, wave
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that selenite around your body. Because that's another clearing. So
whatever the salt didn't get, the selenite can get right, right,
And that selenite is a high frequency, it's a high vibration,
so once you've sealed yourself in that, it's a it's
a super protector. It is most definitely and it can
and it can cut chords. Yeah, we can cut a
lot a lot of stuff. Yes. So um in you're
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you're talking about how people don't share their experiences of
sleep paralysis. So in my Athena's Magical Secrets group on
our closing retreat, I gave them selenite wands, right, that
was their gift. But what happened before I gave I
plan on giving them as the closing gift. But then
the evening before our closing, we were having dinner and
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this conversation of sleep paralysis came up. Everyone around the
table shared this example and said like, I've only talked
to a few people about this in my whole life.
And I was like, okay, we've got to bring out
the selenite ones now, ladies, come on, my sisters, we
gotta get on this right. This is a super tool
to super charge your space, your field and it's cheap, yes,
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selene expensive. It's not expensive. No, I mean in the
scheme of cost, yes, of the Crystal Kingdom. Yes. Yes,
it is very accessible, very accessible, and there's a lot
of it without a doubt. And I'll tell you really
one quick thing about sell nite we'll go back into
the helpful hints. Is I had this. I found this
really great piece of selenite that has in hydro has
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so it has a water bottle bubble in it, so
that's in hydro and um. When I got it, I
used it on a friend and I wanted her at
the base of the back of her first chakra, so
that's like right above right around her highie right. And
once I waved it there, I know I'm very Oklahoma
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talk Oklahoma. That's right. It's like an Oklahoma bap. It's
right about the crack of your ass. That's the back
of your first chakra. She fell to her knees and
started sobbing because boy, there was something that was there
for a long time that was controlling her. And everything changed.
Everything changed. It's really crazy to see her today, but
everything changed. So selenite very powerful. I think we've established
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and we are going to have more for you when
we come back from this break. All right, we're back.
So next on our list is black turmaline. So we
have selenate and we have black turmaline. The whitest of
the light and the darkest of the dark. And black
turmaline is what obviously I mentioned when UM when working
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with Alex and then also we've talked about it. I
will talk about it all the time. It is such
an amazing stone and again accessible, like selenite, you can
find black turmlaine online, you can find it um in
your local crystal shop. It's very accessible. Stone bookstores a
lot of bookstores. And what's so incredible about it is
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that it is it's a protector. So it's not something
that clears, but it protects. So if you are using
it for protection you haven't cleared, it's not going to
help you in that way, right, It's going to hold
in what you haven't cleared. I just want to make
sure everybody understands that. So make sure you're putting clean
clothes on a dirty body, and that you're exactly right,
that's exactly right. It's like putting clean clothes on a
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dirty body. So make sure that you clean your body
in your bath or you use your celenites something, and
then you can protect with the black turmaline. UM bedside table.
Because you're sleeping and you really want to go to
town with a black turmaline, put it under your bed.
You can put it under your pillow. In fact, I
want to ask you brand, how's that black tourmaline working
for you? Oh? It's next to my bed. I love
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it because you got my good stuff. Yes I did.
They've got my good stuff. There's one mine and um,
outside of t BAB that I have found to have
the most powerful magical black termline. It's it's beautiful and
I've I've I've gritted our whole house with it, as
you can imagine. And you got my secret stash and
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I did my office. Um. The other thing for protection
is prayer. And we've talked about prayer. Prayer multiple times
on this show. And um, you can use one that
Brenda that you have shared with us. The one that
I've also used a lot is the Lord's prayer, our
father who aren't in a heaven. I don't cal I'm
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not a Christian, don't claim to be a Christian. I
grew up one and that's one that I learned and
it is so good. It works so well. So our
father who aren't in heaven, how would be thy name?
Um works incredibly well? Or whatever prayer you want to
put in there. The other thing I would do. Um
back into the Rock family again, I just want to say,
what about prayer, right, Just reminding people that whatever prayer
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and anything you offer from your heart is a prayer, right,
and and it raises your vibration. You could just be
like God, please protect me, or the universe please protect me,
or Archangel Michael, yeah, whatever, I mean. One of my
favorite prayers, its gotta be with me now, got to
speak with me now. Like I just I remember um
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waking up in the middle of the night because a
singing bowl in my meditation room, which was at the
time right next to my bedroom. I went flying off
the shelf in the middle of the night and into
the middle of the room. Oh my word. So I
didn't know what was happening. I did a break No,
it was a Tibetan singer when a metal one a
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medal one, yes, and and I didn't know what I
was walking into. But by the time my feet hit
the floor, flying out of bed, that prayer came out
of my mouth. Gott to be with me, and I
go flying in because I don't know what's happening. I
have no like I'm gonna come into a mouse? That
am I going to come into a demon? Like? What
am I gonna like? I don't know something in between.
By the time I got there, it was fine. It
was just the bowl rolling in the middle of the floor.
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That's crazy. But my point is that prayer came out
of my mouth. Got to be with me. I'm going in.
I'm going in, and I'm going in. I don't want
to go in alone. I'm not going in alone. I
had to go pilot. Yeah so yeah, so, but we
want to raise the vibration. You want to raise it
and then use your black tomline and then I and
then another thing. Again. These are all choices that you
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can make. But what I found that really works for
folks is before they sleep, if they are grounded, that
helps them right. And black termaline is so grounding. Black
termine is amazing for it. Also, what's really good is
hematite and smoky courts. And so if you want to
put hemotite smoky courts under your pillow. Find that to
work really well under your bed, but it needs to
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be a big enough piece to draw that grounding cord
down and then you become princess in the pea and
then and then you'll never wake up, maybe in a
good way. The other thing is I think Brian, this
is one of your suggestions about having something to listen
to a soundtrack, and I would encourage people to listen
to you and to listen to I know it's so
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good though, but also when you listen to either different
mantras or you listen to some like when you have
your your meditation c D as I'm trying not to
say c D because it makes me sound like I'm
a hundred like raises the vibe around you, because what
you're talking about, when you go through those meditations, your
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vibe is high. You're bringing up the vibe of the
room that plays it. So whether they listen to you
or they listen to something else, or even the soundtrack
of the ocean, you know, some nature sounds that's that's
bring that vibe as long as it's soothing to you.
So these are things that should really help. And I'm
gonna do a quick recap because I get off topic
a ton and I just want to make people. Is
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that shocking? I know Archangel Michael call him in a
salt water and lavender bath is another one. Um Clearing
your physical body and your emotional body with a celenite
wand is another. Black turmaline at your bedside table is
a must, folks prayer, hematite, smoky cords under your pillow
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for grounding. And also just listening to a soundtrack that
can help you know, noise music, something that helps the
vibe around you. And I think what's super important to
people who have had this kind of trauma or it
can also be other trauma that happened at night, whether
you were a child, where these patterns get set and
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then when you're in that situation, it can re traumatize
you just being in the situation, even without sleep paralysis
or without whatever happened when you were a child. But
this you have to break the pattern for your nervous
system where you just you get retriggered and or you
just get nervous about the possibility of being retriggered. Being
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able to break that pattern, even taking a lavender absence
of bath before the night before you go to bed,
will help you break that pattern because it changes the
frequency and the vibration you are when you present yourself
for bed. Just touching the black termaline after you've done that,
like remember, touch your rock. I want to be touched
that rocks. So but remembering that, just breaking that pattern
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and consciously touching that or smelling lavender, those things will
actually break the habit or break the pattern that you've
created or had created for you with these experiences, because
we want to interrupt that firing in the nervous system
so that you can experience deep, restorative sleep. And sleeping
is vulnerable, right, We are so vulnerable when we sleep,
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So of course it's going to be fear attached to it.
Whether it was like you said, a kid that you
know you're an abusive house and somebody yanked you out
of bed when you were a kid. That's trauma, or
just hearing hearing fighting, hearing fighting what I mean, let's
just call it what it is. You hear fighting whatever, Right,
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but it's it's too it's to break that and break
it with these great tools, these things that rate that
clear your vibration, that cleared your field, that seal your
field and will hold you in a really powerful way.
And as much as I appreciate the book that Dr
Guy wrote, because I do, I learned a lot actually
from reading the and it totally inspired this um and
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it helped bring some clarification to how our bodies what
what our bodies are doing when we sleep. So I'm
really grateful for that. But I also just want to
remind everyone you are not a piece of meat that
only biology can explain. Because you're not. You're far more complex.
You are divine, and there are ways for you to
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operate through this world without having it to be so hard.
Because we've established how hard earth school is. The school
is hard and so much harder without sleep, It's so
much harder to navigate, and you deserve great you do.
We want to hear which tools you love the best,
which ones worked for you, how you've modified them, adjusted
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them to make them more. We want to hear from you.
We do because you, guys can make all this better
for people. Right If you, guys, find that you can
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Hi, y'all, I'm Julie. Hi there, I'm Brenda. Welcome to
Insider's Guide to the Other Side. Now y'all need to
know that we are obsessed with everything on the other side.
Yes we are, because once you learn to navigate the energetic,
or to some the invisible world, life is going to
be more fun and much more serene. Heck, yes it can,
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because let's be honest, brand earth school is hard. In fact,
you taught me that. Let's crush Earth School together. Welcome
to Insider's Guide to the Other Side, A production of
My Heart Ratio. Hey Brian, Hello my elf. I'm so
glad you finally called me your elf again. It feels
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like you're mad at me. If you tell me about
my name, it feels weird coming out of my mouth.
It's like I haven't heard you say my name, and
it's like, wait, I get in trouble. So it feels like,
so the next thing I know, You're gonna say Julie
Ann and all of a sudden, I'm going to like
shrivel up and hide under the table because I'm going
to get yelled at or something. That's such a great opener,
because today we're talking about being afraid. Perfect, perfect, It's
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fantastic because last week we talked about why we sleep,
and so this is how important sleep is, right, How important? Right,
that's why we're talking about this. It's critical for obviously
navigating the Earth world in Earth School, but also for
our spiritual side as well. And then this week we
are talking about being afraid to sleep. And what was
so interesting is last week I'm I'm telling Susanne, who
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feels like a third host by the way, in the show,
I talked about her so much, and every once in
a while she'll listen to an episode she'll look at
me and I'll be like, hey, man, you signed up
for this. You didn't know you signed up for it,
but you did. But after the last one, I was
talking to Susanne about it, and she was telling me
about an NPR interview that she heard. Yes, my wife
(01:56):
listens to NPR. I don't, but my wife does because
she's harder than me. And and she listened to an
interview by a guy named doctor I think his name
is guy um doctor guy less a guy named a
guy named Dr Guy so doctor guy Lessinger I think
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is his name, who wrote a book called Nocturnal Brain.
So I decided to read it. This is coming from
the girl who made it through college without reading a
single book. Now all I do is read, cannot get enough.
And I take it at everyone's suggestion, especially my wife.
So I read it, and she knew that it would
piss me off. And I think that's why she told
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me about it. Maybe I got something for you. It's like, yeah, here, honey,
I'm gonna get you all riled up. Read this book, right,
um so so in his book, he talks a lot
about us being afraid to sleep. So I think that
you know, we have countless reasons why we have trouble sleeping,
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right brand And don't you think fear is at the
top of that list, well, fear and stress. Right So
what we get stressed out about is individualized or some
of us will worry about something in the future, some
of us will worry about things that are in the past.
Some of us just have a general anxiety about life
in general, or about how you're going to do with
someone or something. So there's there's just this anxiety or
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stress level happening, and when it doesn't dissipate, it's really
hard to sleep and when we have these patterns, we
sometimes think that we're actually afraid to go to bed
because we develop such a pattern where we get like
this every night. We're worrying every night, well somewhere unconsciously,
now consciously, people are walking around going I can't go
to bed because that's where the stress is. But what
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happens is because we don't have other things to distract
us when we lie down to sleep. We don't have
our phones, we don't have we're not talking to our friends,
we're not talking to our family, we're not watching screens
that we then have to act acknowledge the stress that
we're carrying throughout our day with throughout our thoughts. And
there's another I think fear that weirdly was thrust into
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my world, uh called sleep paralysis. And so we're going
to dive into that too, because that's that's a real
fear that people have, and so we're going to go
into that. But I what I'd love to do is
to talk about more technical, scientific, biological aspects of sleep,
just to give everybody, um, I think, a baseline, because
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before I think, I confess that I thought ram sleep
was a band. So maybe I'm doing this for my
own benefit, but there's bound to be somebody else out
there who will actually benefit from it, there's no doubt.
So we'll do a little bit of science asleep. So
deep sleep is when our heart rate is the slowest
and it's really hard to wake someone up during this time.
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This is that time when I look at my sleep
pattern when I'm in deep sleep, there's a zero movement
going on because I am just out right. So that's
deep Or if you wake up during that time, you
wake up really groggy, like where am I? What? What
day is it? Like? You don't you know that? When
you wake up, you're like, okay, it's Tuesday. I've got
this going on, and get that going on that clarity.
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You wake up from a light sleep, Oh I have
woken up traveling and wanted where the hell am I?
That was deep sleep. That was the alarm going off
for the front desk calling or whatever it was. It's
like time to get up and whatever time zone, and
it's like, wait, where am I again? That's totally waking
up in deep sleep. So light sleep is where we
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spend most of our time in. So light sleep is
what you were just referring to. So clearly it's it's
called light sleep because it's not deep sleep. Gafi, right,
I think they got very clever when they started naming
our sleep cycles. Um Rim is the one that I
think is interesting because our scientists didn't just scover rem
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sleep until the fifties. So our brain is busy and
this is when we dream. So what also happens during
this kind of dream time is that our brain shuts
off our limbs. Is that the right way to say it.
That's probably not that it actually temporarily paralyzes our limbs,
so we don't act out our dreams in our sleep. Now,
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this doesn't always work. There's a lot of misfires with this.
I know that my best friend Cubby, she is always
like slinging her arms around and hitting Ronda on the
head and whatever she does and like runs dive on
the ground the you know void Kim because she's six
ft tall, so you know, those limbs are long, that
wingspan the pterodactyl coming in paradactyl, she could touch both
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sides of this sound booth right just by sitting or
I'm sitting and I'm like feet away from him. Um
So there's misfires that happen, um, But for all intents
and purposes, that's what our body is supposed to do,
is that it temporarily paralyzes our arms and legs. And
chances are when she he's moving around like that, she's
not in REM right, Um, she's probably she's probably light
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light sleep. So when we move from REM into full
awareness or full awakeness, sometimes that paralysis stays in the
on position. So if you imagine a switch, right, So
when we go into RAM, our brain switches that paralyze
mode on and then when we wait get supposed to
turn it off. Not in all cases that that happens.
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And so that's where I think they got the term
sleep paralysis from. So scientifically there is an explanation why
people can feel paralyzed but they're awake, right. So this
I think is agreeable amongst all the people. Now, what
science says happens in sleep paralysis is actually where I
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lose my mind. So Dr Guy, I'm gonna stop trying
to pronounce his last name because I cannot, so we're
to call him doctor Guy, who I'm assuming is a
fabulous doctor. He wrote a really great book. But this
is where I think my disagreement is at its highest.
The nightmares, let's call them nightmares that we experience, the
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demons that we see in here while we're awake during paralysis,
they claim our hallucinations. And that's where my mind blows up. Now,
what's interesting about these hallucinations is that they've been referenced
in Mesopotamian. I almost got it right, Mesopotamian. Well, thank you, fantastic,
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thank you. I can't say burglar either, it always comes
out like that, it's fine or nuclear or um. So
I've been referenced in Mesopotamian texts um since before twenty
four hundred BC. So it's not like this whole idea
of nightmares or night terrors is anything new. And even
add on to it, um that that people who have
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experienced sleep paralysis what they see has been documented for
thousands of years, and so they see a lot of
the same entities in different parts of the world, different
classes of people, different everything, and they have not spoken before.
So it's not ironic, right, It's not an accident that
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what everybody sees is the same thing. Because what got
me is when he said, dealing with um this issue
of like having paralysis in your body, um staying in
that state, but your mind waking up that can be
taken care of with a pill. Is effectively what he said.
And then he goes on and says, yes, and we
have hallucinations. That's another drug. I'm like, oh my god,
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so we're going to drug people for everything, right, So
I start to lose a little bit um on on that,
because what he is assuming is that we are a
piece of meat that is run by electrical currents. Well,
and I would remind you that when we have a
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hammer that we trust and love, we assume everything's a nail. Yeah,
So that's what he's doing, and that's what he knows.
So that's, of course what he's gonna talk about. We're
going to talk more about this when we come back
from our next break. All right, we're back. We were
talking about being pieces of meat. He's staying in his lane, right,
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That's what I'd say. He's staying in his lane. Now,
you're just so kind. But here's what we should consider,
and this is what we've talked about the last couple
of episodes, is that we are spirits having a human experience,
and when our body needs to rest our, spirit doesn't
necessarily need to sleep. I used to love one of
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my old bosses. Um, he used to work us. Oh
my god, I used to work us to death. And
he would say, people would be kind of tired. Would
be eleven o'clock at night, twelve o'clock at night, we're
working on a movie or some um you know, marketing
for one of our movies. And he'd say, well, you
can sleep when you're dead. And I'm like, actually, you
don't sleep when you're dead, not at all. You have
this all wrong, But that's okay because you don't have
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a liver that needs to clean your blood, right exactly,
So we don't sleep when we're dead. Um. So you
think funny. So so spirits don't need to sleep. Um.
So if you think about what happens when our body
is paralyzed in that sleep paralysis state, that our spirit
is is been busy, right, it's out. It could be
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out partying the astral plane, could be you could have
a ticket to the astral plane. Um. And what I
think is interesting is what I mentioned before about all
of the people who have described what they experienced during
the sleep paralysis, and it can be horrifying. Now there
are some people that have reported that they don't have
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any scary experiences, but what most people do experience during
this could be quite frightening. And so let me just
tell everybody what those things are. And I'm guaranteeing you
there are people listening to this right now they're like,
holy crap, that's me because that's what I have found
in the last year plus, are all these people that
struggle from it, but they're too afraid to say anything.
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They're embarrassed, they think something's wrong with that. It's also
not conversation you have in plaited company, right, I mean,
like people don't feel free to say, hey, I had
this night terror, Like it's just not common conversation. I
found that they don't even talk to their families about it,
Like they don't talk to the closest friends about it.
And so Alex was my first and we're going to
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use his name because he's Alex, he's not Jim. And
so Alex is the first one that I really encountered
that that experiences. And the only one who knew anything
about it was his wife. And the only reason he
told her was because when he is in that in
that sleep paralysis place that he would think that he
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was screaming, but he was whispering. He thought he was
screaming Dawn and he would be saying don And so
he had to explain to her what was going on
during that time. So Alex dealt with sleep proalysis for
the time that he was nine years old. And he's
the one who introduced me to a little bit of
the history, at least our modern day history. Um Wes Craven,
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who wrote the movies UM Nightmare on Elm Street, suffers
from sleep paralysis. So he stayed in his lane. He
knew the territory, right, He stayed in his line. He
very much knows right. So Freddie Krueger is actually modeled
from this entity creature that people have seen for thousands
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of years called the hat Man. So think about Freddy Krueger.
He wears a hat. He showed U and uh so,
so he actually decided to make a move it. So
I love filmmakers. Sometimes you're the great storytellers. Like I've
been suffering from this my whole life. So I'm going
to create a movie that embodies the terror that I
have lived with, you know, and take control back, and
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take control back. So Alex told me about you know,
Wes craven Um and about Freddy Krueger be in the
hat Man. And then he started to tell me his
story and his story from the time he was nine
years old until I met him. I think he was
probably in his early thirties, that a few times a
month he would be in this state where he couldn't
move a muscle and he could feel this impending doom,
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this sense that somebody else was around. Then he started
to see this entity called the hat Man. And what's
very common from people is it's not like a physical person,
but they see the outline of a man wearing like
a fedoredored fedora. We weren't taught that in Oklahoma. We
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didn't have fedoras, we didn't have those that we didn't
make cowboy hats. Um. But he'd be wearing this hat.
And then many people would say that he'd have like
these um uh, beaming red eyes, and he could be
wearing like a trench coat something like that, and Alex
would be like, I've never been more afraid in my
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life than when I slept. So I didn't know much
about it, and actually didn't know anything about it. I
only knew Friday and so I believe I called you,
which is normally who I call. You know, they say
who you're gonna call, not ghostbusters, I call Brenda. UM,
So I called you and UM. We talked a lot
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about help me understand it. I also read a few
books about it, which was really fascinating. And as I
was kind of going through this, I started to understand
that when we are disconnected, like when our bodies disconnected
from our spirit in that way, that there are certain
things that have the ability to kind of get in
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there right. They can kind of wedge their way in there,
and this I think being one of them. And so
what I talked to Alex about was, I go, we
need to find something that that has the energy to
protect you, and you need to be doing things that
protect yourself. And I said, and don't forget your father now,
be because he's a typical guy, and typical guys like
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be like, well wait till I see him next, you know,
he's all badass or something like wait till he gets
a load of me. I'm like, no, honey, here's what
you're gonna do. And so I gave him some black
turmaline to keep on his bedside table because it cast
a shield of protection. And then I talked about prayer
with him, and what was so fascinating for him is
that he never had it again until he left his
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black turmaline at home one day when he was traveling
to Seattle. I had multiple people with the same situation
and gave them this same suggestion, and they never had
to deal with it again. What I gave him was
not a pill. What I gave him was a rock
and hope and power that they don't have to do this.
Because what's really fascinating is that you can really start
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reading about people who experienced this. And there was a
gentleman who claimed that when he was in Pratt Prolysis,
he he spoke to the hat Man and when I say,
speak more about in his mind, spoke to him and said,
who are you? And the hat man responded and he said,
they call me Scratch, and Scratch is the name that
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they had for the devil during the days of Adam
and Eve when the serpent tried to move them away
from God. So this is a a character, let's say,
and archetype that scares the hell out of people. And
so as I started talking to people more about it
more and more people started to show up, and then
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more and more people started to show up, and and
I think that I came up with a list of
things to to recommend to folks that they could try. Um,
so they're no longer afraid to sleep, because there are
people that were coming to me that we're saying, I
don't want to sleep. I'm afraid when I lay in
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bed because I don't want to go experience that. I
don't want the hag that sits on my chest, I
don't want the hat man that tries to scare the
hell out of me. Like people are literally afraid for
their life while they're in this sleep mode. I think
you've experienced something when you were a kid. I've experienced
it a couple of times where you um, well you
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just can't move, you can't make a sound, and you um,
it feels like you're going to die. That's what people
have reported to me. And you kind of hope you
do because it's terrifying and you just wanted over and
there's nothing you can do now for me. Um. But
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you know, when I was a kid, I didn't know.
Even as a young adult, I didn't know. Obviously, today
I would have very different UM tools available to me
that would take care of it, but it hasn't happened
a long time. So the number one tool I think
for people who struggle with this UM is St. Michael.
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We've talked about St. Michael before we talked about Michael. Yeah,
we talked about Archangel Michael for UM Halloween Preppers, I believe,
and Archangel Michael is when I had talked to Alex
and others about this, I said, if he shows up
and if you're afraid, call I called him, say my
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call on Archangel Michael. And because he will come in
sorting and what is so funny? Brand I was just
talking to somebody about this, and I don't know if
you remember, UM when we were talking about how we
talked to dead people and you said, they're gonna start
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showing you movies and actors, right, okay, so let me
tell you who they show me now. When I when
I was talking about St. Michael one day not long ago,
and they said, well, what does he look like? I went, huh,
Russell Crowe and Gladiator. That is what they showed man.
So for those that want to have a visual of
Archangel Michael, in my world, he looks like russ Crow
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and Gladiator. Um, but that's the number one thing, like
if you're in that place but in ways that you can't, like,
let's call it preventative. Is In fact, we've talked about
this before about trying to get to sleep, how we
use lavender. The lavender is also protection. So one of
the things that seems to work for folks. And I
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just got an email from this really lovely woman who
came to me struggling with this and she sent actually
was a text, and she sent it and I got
it yesterday and were telling I got this text yesterday,
and she goes, you fixed me. I'm fixed. I haven't
dealt with sleep paralysis. And what she did was she
would take a bath every night, UM, and she would
use Epps and salt and lavender because salt protection well
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as salt is definitely protection, but salt also clears, right,
so it's clearing things off of your energetic body, your
physical body, and then um, the the the lavender acts
as the protection agent with that. So she started doing that.
She also UM, I had asked her if she could
find some selenite, because after you take a bath, wave
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that selenite around your body. Because that's another clearing. So
whatever the salt didn't get, the selenite can get right, right,
And that selenite is a high frequency, it's a high vibration,
so once you've sealed yourself in that, it's a it's
a super protector. It is most definitely and it can
and it can cut chords. Yeah, we can cut a
lot a lot of stuff. Yes. So um in you're
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you're talking about how people don't share their experiences of
sleep paralysis. So in my Athena's Magical Secrets group on
our closing retreat, I gave them selenite wands, right, that
was their gift. But what happened before I gave I
plan on giving them as the closing gift. But then
the evening before our closing, we were having dinner and
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this conversation of sleep paralysis came up. Everyone around the
table shared this example and said like, I've only talked
to a few people about this in my whole life.
And I was like, okay, we've got to bring out
the selenite ones now, ladies, come on, my sisters, we
gotta get on this right. This is a super tool
to super charge your space, your field and it's cheap, yes,
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selene expensive. It's not expensive. No, I mean in the
scheme of cost, yes, of the Crystal Kingdom. Yes. Yes,
it is very accessible, very accessible, and there's a lot
of it without a doubt. And I'll tell you really
one quick thing about sell nite we'll go back into
the helpful hints. Is I had this. I found this
really great piece of selenite that has in hydro has
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so it has a water bottle bubble in it, so
that's in hydro and um. When I got it, I
used it on a friend and I wanted her at
the base of the back of her first chakra, so
that's like right above right around her highie right. And
once I waved it there, I know I'm very Oklahoma
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talk Oklahoma. That's right. It's like an Oklahoma bap. It's
right about the crack of your ass. That's the back
of your first chakra. She fell to her knees and
started sobbing because boy, there was something that was there
for a long time that was controlling her. And everything changed.
Everything changed. It's really crazy to see her today, but
everything changed. So selenite very powerful. I think we've established
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and we are going to have more for you when
we come back from this break. All right, we're back.
So next on our list is black turmaline. So we
have selenate and we have black turmaline. The whitest of
the light and the darkest of the dark. And black
turmaline is what obviously I mentioned when UM when working
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with Alex and then also we've talked about it. I
will talk about it all the time. It is such
an amazing stone and again accessible, like selenite, you can
find black turmlaine online, you can find it um in
your local crystal shop. It's very accessible. Stone bookstores a
lot of bookstores. And what's so incredible about it is
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that it is it's a protector. So it's not something
that clears, but it protects. So if you are using
it for protection you haven't cleared, it's not going to
help you in that way, right, It's going to hold
in what you haven't cleared. I just want to make
sure everybody understands that. So make sure you're putting clean
clothes on a dirty body, and that you're exactly right,
that's exactly right. It's like putting clean clothes on a
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dirty body. So make sure that you clean your body
in your bath or you use your celenites something, and
then you can protect with the black turmaline. UM bedside table.
Because you're sleeping and you really want to go to
town with a black turmaline, put it under your bed.
You can put it under your pillow. In fact, I
want to ask you brand, how's that black tourmaline working
for you? Oh? It's next to my bed. I love
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it because you got my good stuff. Yes I did.
They've got my good stuff. There's one mine and um,
outside of t BAB that I have found to have
the most powerful magical black termline. It's it's beautiful and
I've I've I've gritted our whole house with it, as
you can imagine. And you got my secret stash and
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I did my office. Um. The other thing for protection
is prayer. And we've talked about prayer. Prayer multiple times
on this show. And um, you can use one that
Brenda that you have shared with us. The one that
I've also used a lot is the Lord's prayer, our
father who aren't in a heaven. I don't cal I'm
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not a Christian, don't claim to be a Christian. I
grew up one and that's one that I learned and
it is so good. It works so well. So our
father who aren't in heaven, how would be thy name?
Um works incredibly well? Or whatever prayer you want to
put in there. The other thing I would do. Um
back into the Rock family again, I just want to say,
what about prayer, right, Just reminding people that whatever prayer
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and anything you offer from your heart is a prayer, right,
and and it raises your vibration. You could just be
like God, please protect me, or the universe please protect me,
or Archangel Michael, yeah, whatever, I mean. One of my
favorite prayers, its gotta be with me now, got to
speak with me now. Like I just I remember um
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waking up in the middle of the night because a
singing bowl in my meditation room, which was at the
time right next to my bedroom. I went flying off
the shelf in the middle of the night and into
the middle of the room. Oh my word. So I
didn't know what was happening. I did a break No,
it was a Tibetan singer when a metal one a
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medal one, yes, and and I didn't know what I
was walking into. But by the time my feet hit
the floor, flying out of bed, that prayer came out
of my mouth. Gott to be with me, and I
go flying in because I don't know what's happening. I
have no like I'm gonna come into a mouse? That
am I going to come into a demon? Like? What
am I gonna like? I don't know something in between.
By the time I got there, it was fine. It
was just the bowl rolling in the middle of the floor.
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That's crazy. But my point is that prayer came out
of my mouth. Got to be with me. I'm going in.
I'm going in, and I'm going in. I don't want
to go in alone. I'm not going in alone. I
had to go pilot. Yeah so yeah, so, but we
want to raise the vibration. You want to raise it
and then use your black tomline and then I and
then another thing. Again. These are all choices that you
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can make. But what I found that really works for
folks is before they sleep, if they are grounded, that
helps them right. And black termaline is so grounding. Black
termine is amazing for it. Also, what's really good is
hematite and smoky courts. And so if you want to
put hemotite smoky courts under your pillow. Find that to
work really well under your bed, but it needs to
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be a big enough piece to draw that grounding cord
down and then you become princess in the pea and
then and then you'll never wake up, maybe in a
good way. The other thing is I think Brian, this
is one of your suggestions about having something to listen
to a soundtrack, and I would encourage people to listen
to you and to listen to I know it's so
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good though, but also when you listen to either different
mantras or you listen to some like when you have
your your meditation c D as I'm trying not to
say c D because it makes me sound like I'm
a hundred like raises the vibe around you, because what
you're talking about, when you go through those meditations, your
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vibe is high. You're bringing up the vibe of the
room that plays it. So whether they listen to you
or they listen to something else, or even the soundtrack
of the ocean, you know, some nature sounds that's that's
bring that vibe as long as it's soothing to you.
So these are things that should really help. And I'm
gonna do a quick recap because I get off topic
a ton and I just want to make people. Is
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that shocking? I know Archangel Michael call him in a
salt water and lavender bath is another one. Um Clearing
your physical body and your emotional body with a celenite
wand is another. Black turmaline at your bedside table is
a must, folks prayer, hematite, smoky cords under your pillow
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for grounding. And also just listening to a soundtrack that
can help you know, noise music, something that helps the
vibe around you. And I think what's super important to
people who have had this kind of trauma or it
can also be other trauma that happened at night, whether
you were a child, where these patterns get set and
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then when you're in that situation, it can re traumatize
you just being in the situation, even without sleep paralysis
or without whatever happened when you were a child. But
this you have to break the pattern for your nervous
system where you just you get retriggered and or you
just get nervous about the possibility of being retriggered. Being
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able to break that pattern, even taking a lavender absence
of bath before the night before you go to bed,
will help you break that pattern because it changes the
frequency and the vibration you are when you present yourself
for bed. Just touching the black termaline after you've done that,
like remember, touch your rock. I want to be touched
that rocks. So but remembering that, just breaking that pattern
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and consciously touching that or smelling lavender, those things will
actually break the habit or break the pattern that you've
created or had created for you with these experiences, because
we want to interrupt that firing in the nervous system
so that you can experience deep, restorative sleep. And sleeping
is vulnerable, right, We are so vulnerable when we sleep,
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So of course it's going to be fear attached to it.
Whether it was like you said, a kid that you
know you're an abusive house and somebody yanked you out
of bed when you were a kid. That's trauma, or
just hearing hearing fighting, hearing fighting what I mean, let's
just call it what it is. You hear fighting whatever, Right,
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but it's it's too it's to break that and break
it with these great tools, these things that rate that
clear your vibration, that cleared your field, that seal your
field and will hold you in a really powerful way.
And as much as I appreciate the book that Dr
Guy wrote, because I do, I learned a lot actually
from reading the and it totally inspired this um and
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it helped bring some clarification to how our bodies what
what our bodies are doing when we sleep. So I'm
really grateful for that. But I also just want to
remind everyone you are not a piece of meat that
only biology can explain. Because you're not. You're far more complex.
You are divine, and there are ways for you to
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operate through this world without having it to be so hard.
Because we've established how hard earth school is. The school
is hard and so much harder without sleep, It's so
much harder to navigate, and you deserve great you do.
We want to hear which tools you love the best,
which ones worked for you, how you've modified them, adjusted
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them to make them more. We want to hear from you.
We do because you, guys can make all this better
for people. Right If you, guys, find that you can
add something to a bath, and that is somehow the trick,
tell us about it. We would love to know, because
we need to tell um. You know when you tell
everyone about it, So don't forget. You can call us
at eight three three two to Guide, or send us
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