August 17, 2022 • 32 mins
The more pre-life contracts you button up during this lifetime, the more you create space for a fresh Earth School expansion in the next. But, how do you know when you’ve fulfilled a soul contract? And, how can you determine when it’s time to wrap things up?
By paying attention to how your nervous systems responds to new or challenging experiences!
It lets you know when you’ve stumbled upon a moment arranged for you, by you, your guides, the Cosmos, or The Universe- before you were born. This heightened awareness can also inform you of when a cycle is complete.
In this episode, you’ll learn how to feel your way through these moments with awareness, grace, and compassion. Spending time with your emotions and contemplating your contracts is the pathway to freedom here in this life, and the next.
Earth School is hard, without the Other Side Guides helping you to let it flow, so you can let it go…
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to Insider's Guide to the Other Side, a production
of My Heart Radio. Hi y'all, I'm Julie. Hi there,
I'm Brenda. Welcome to Insider's Guide to the other Side.
Now you all need to know that we are obsessed
with everything on the other side. Yes we are, because
(00:21):
once you learn to navigate the energetic, or to some
the invisible world, life is going to be more fun
and much more serene. Heck, yes it can, because let's
be honest, Brian, earth school is hard. In fact, you
taught me that let's crush Earth School together. Well, hello,
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my witchy of Pooh. That's that's actually what I'm calling Cincinnati.
Cincinnati now is woo. So it's like the WITCHI, how
are you doing? Entertained? But I love Cincideata I'm calling
it Pooh. It's just you know, maybe it's your neighborhood,
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like yeah, sharing something of Yorkshire. Yes, that is, you
have to have land. You have to be like a
ruler over something, so I don't know what that could be.
You're definitely the ruler over me and Lulu, so we
restart the back of which you rule. I think Lulu
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would beg to difference right, you're you're she rules over you,
I know pretty much. So I'm just find my own
how that's perfect. I'm doing great. And I met an
incredibly interesting person that I want you to meet someday. Yes,
she's a new colleague. Her name is Claire, which I
love because of clairvoyance and clair audience. Wait and here's
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here's this is why I'm bringing her up because it's
so fascinating. Her father did research on their lineage and
she is a descendant of the original three witches that
were uh huh in Salem, Massachusetts. Right, and her name
is Claire. That's insane exactly. And she's cool and witchy,
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and I get like, of course I had. I gave
her black termline because she's had a few little um
she got. Yeah, she's got a little hat man actually
sleep paralysis that that kicks her in the butt, and
some smoky courts to ground her. And then since we
have the new moon that coming going whatever it was
of the of black moonstone, I gave her too. But
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she's so witchy. I love it. So she practices that
she No, I think it's more innate, like it's just
part of who she is. But I think that she
may very well be getting to that point. But she's
got some gifts, clearly got some gifts. Definitely got she's
got gifts. But she's also had some take alongs for
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a while. So yeah, we're gonna work on that. You
may not have, Yeah, she may not have palaxis. Yeah.
Then her name is Claire. I mean they named her
Claire and she's a descendant of which is from Salem.
Oh my god. Anyway, so I just thought that I
met her yesterday. That's why I'm so excited. How did
you meet? Susan? I and the dogs are here in
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Austin with the company that I'm on the board of
directors for called story Fit, and she is a She
has her PhD in media psychology. You know how I
like those people like Dr Pam I love I love
those I love people in psychology field. I learned so
much from them and I test theories and I'm wrong
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a lot, but ever once while I get one something right.
It's fun. But anyway, so I met her. She's new
to the team, and so I met her yesterday here
and when I first saw her, I was like, huh,
like you know right, you know, when there's something really
interesting about somebody, and uh, then she wouldn't. It's right,
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It's like, what's happening here anyway, So just fun. I
just thought it was really fun to share with our
listeners that you know, we because you are included. She
now knows who you are. Uh. And she loved Cincinnati,
by the way. I didn't ask why, um and because
I do because of you and all my readers. But
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but anyway, I thought it was fascinating, so I was fascinating.
So I just wanted to share it because that's cool
that her, like her dad, did the research to find
that lineage. And just I'm gonna throw in one more
weird thing. I know we're supposed to talk about other stuff,
but this is just some really interesting things that have
happened in the world that you know, and it's it's
a bit of the world is small, right, not that
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part about her, But she's connected to another one. She
just moved to Buffalo, New York, and you know my
cousin Kristen. So I said to her, I'm like, hey,
I'll introduce you to my cousin Kristen. You'll love her somebody,
you know, to get to know kind of thing. And
then I said, she saysn't about her husband's family, who's
an attorney. So we'll see if he knows Norman Wolf,
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who was my uncle who was a State Supreme Court judge.
Kristen's dad. Not only does he know Norm, he was
Norm's older brother's law partner, Fred Fred Wolf. This her
in law. Her father in law was practice practice law
partnership with my cousin's other uncle. Oh, I mean, come on,
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so anyway, I've had a good time the last twenty
four hours. That is so many giggles in there, layers,
layers and layers. Yeah, so we have she's a witch,
descendative a witch, and weirdly connected to my Wolf side
of the family. So anyway, it just fun has been
had on my part for twenty four hours, which is
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part of being in the world again and meeting new people,
and it's and I and it's fun, right, especially when
they're descendative witches and practically family and serious family practiced
law with Fred Wolf. I'm just like, what, of course,
And it's just so fun to acknowledge the little link
from the universe, right, I love that. I love that
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so instead it just makes it more. It does make
it more of it does. That's why I was so
I'm telling everybody, not just you. I'm not telling you,
but I'm in fact telling stands of thousands of people
that about this um. But I think funny thing about
it is that, weirdly, I think the story is a
bit connected to what we wanted to talk about today,
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because I think it is. I didn't even didn't even
dawn on me. I was as excited and then uh,
here the puzzle pieces to start being, you know, fitting together.
But we've talked so just so everybody knows, you know,
Bren and I always talk about what would be interesting
to address, and what are things that we've already addressed,
and what things are incomplete that we haven't finished the
storytelling part of it for everyone. And you know, we've
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talked a lot about when we're in spirit form and
we create contracts with those in our spirit tribe, and
but we've never talked about what happens when we're all
plumped down on earth together, you know, And how do
we know, right, how do we know if we're on contract,
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if we are contracts are complete? You know, because Pete,
we have this as humans. I find this to be
a very funny thing. So humanity. It's like, we think
we need to keep people in our lives forever, including
the bad ones, including the relationships that aren't good or
healthy for us. We just hold onto them because we
think we're supposed to. We think that it's a badge
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of honor to have longevity on our relationships. I'm not
saying it's a bad thing, but we think all of
them have to be like that is kind of what
my point is. Well, and I think you know, this
came out of a conversation coming out of the couple
of episodes I did, but most recently the one where
we talked about how your soul chooses, like, your soul
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is set up to express the next level of understanding
and integration of lessons and blessings and all that and
and so this kind of is the continuation that says, Okay,
so if you understand that from a soul concept and
that these are the spiritual and soul level contracts that
you've committed to, what in the world do you do
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with them now that you're here in our school exactly like,
how do how do we engage? How do we navigate
to get the most out of it? Not to have dominion,
you know, have power over someone, right, but to actually
look at internal and say, what's possible for me to
learn and grow and contribute at the highest level. And
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that is done? I think that's the thing. When is
it done? And how do we handle it when it's done?
What do we do with it? How can we be
graceful with it? How I identify it for starters, because
that's part of that thing is that I know so
many of us have had relationships that needed to be
and we just kept them going or or or we'd
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set something up to make them just like self destruct
because we didn't know what else to do, but we
knew that they were Sometimes they have to burn down
the house from the inside. Well exactly, Okay, I can't
get out, I can't get out, gotta I gotta burn
it down. And so with the loeu of burning it down,
how can we help navigate and we don't have to
burn stuff down all the time? Yeah, okay, right, that's
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the table. Table is set for today that we should
probably take a quickie break because I think that my
intro took a really long time. We covered a lot
of ground in the intro. We've covered a lot of ground. Okay,
so we're gonna take a quickie break and we'll be
right back, y'all. Okay, my witchy pooh. Everybody would much
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rather hear from you. Oh look see I can rhyme
everything I possibly can. I just I'm here to exactly right,
lots lots of with food for the record. Um, and
you have your own emoji. Um. So so this is
where you are. I mean, obviously far more of an expert,
because just you are. And that's not true. You have
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as many contracts as I do, but probably because you know,
I know, I know, I'm a busy elf, but you
are the busiest. But I think it's best for you
to like like take us back like we're in class now. Okay,
well this is what I think. One of the many
brilliant points that you illuminated for us in the intro was,
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you know, how do we know it's a soul? Like
it's a contract? Like how do we know? And there's
there's so many ways, like you know that the nervous
system is informed from our previous lives. Right, that's why
sometimes trauma can be you know, brought forward from past lives. Um,
it can be transmitted through the lineage. And it can
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also you know that excitement, right, the nervous system really
fire sort of in the same way when we're excited
and when we're frightened, that third chocolate snapping shot, that
feeling where you feel like you're going to throw up instantly,
you're like, what's happening here? And it could be really
good or really bad, and it can be you know,
that's what many people call it, you know, that love
at first sight. It can be a remembrance, it can
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be terrifying, it can be really exciting. All that can happen,
but there's some level of engagement that is usually elevated.
Then when a contract isn't isn't in place, so you
just have a really strong reaction. This is why in
so many rom coms, boy meets girl or boy meets
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boy or girl needs girl, whatever comparing it is, that's present,
and it's like, I hate you. You're the ugliest thing ever,
you know, you stink whatever, right, and and then of
course not to not to write a rom con well,
I'm just actually what do stick like exactly? You know,
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But it's it's this immature reaction, is my point, Like
it's this immature and it's inappropriate, and it's like it's people.
But people watch her to go what are you? What
are you doing? Like they're just making a present Like
why are you having such a strong reaction? Why are
you thinking about the presentation? Or why you know, why
you're pulling her hair or you know whatever it is,
like it's this really weird sort of thing. You're like,
I don't even know, I don't even know to skim
away from me, right, And it's like, oh, there's something there, right,
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So there's something there, and that doesn't mean people will
often miss a diagnose that or misidentify that better word
of either as this is really good or really bad,
and then they proceed as though that story they tell
is true and so they avoid them or they you know,
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won't leave them, you know whatever it is, and then
they keep telling that story and then they instead of
like going, wait a minute, what's actually going on here?
Why why am I behaving this way? And and why
am I having such a strong reaction? Oh, maybe this
is a remembrance. Maybe this is like I'm I'm filling
some karma here. Maybe there's a lesson or something for
me that, you know, something I get to close out
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in this lifetime, which can be super helpful on the
soul level and feel so complete and masterful. Um and
I know people who and freeing and affirming and exciting,
and you know, it's and it doesn't like I think
about people I know who have that soul connection at
work where it's like a creative mortgage board. They can
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do whatever, Like whatever challenge you throw to this team,
they just knock it out of the park. They're just
like boom, got it. You know, they crank on it,
they bring in resources, they get inspired, they you know,
and they like they create these solutions whatever it is,
and it's euphoric almost rights. I mean you in Hollywood especially,
any creative environment is super charged, right and and so.
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But then when that project is done, they usually get
released to the things and they remember that as a
peak experience in their life. But they don't try and
hold onto it and restled to the ground and you know,
your mind forever like that. Because we're supposed to, as
you said, you understand the lesson, understand the commitment to
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each other. The closure can be part of the sacred
way of how we navigate forward. And that isn't something
we usually talk about. So when it's when it's sort
of managed externally by an organization, it's much easier. But
how can we bring that sort of like logic, Hey,
this is efficient, this was good for this phase, this
is good for this time in my life, for where
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I am, but it doesn't have to necessarily go on forever.
And how do we know that? It totally make sense
to me, But how do we because you were talking
about like all of those points of ignition that we
have that recognition, right, but what are those signs of
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when it's time for a contract to close? Well, I
think first of all, just talking about that topic and
making it okay for people to consider, like I can
adore you and value you for your contributions, for who
you are, for what you're doing in the world, um
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for your presence in my life, but that doesn't mean
I owe you my life, like just even like considering
that as like, oh, is this valuable to me? Is
this continuing to create value in my life? Or does
it create stress? And and make sure that Look, life is,
relationships are hard just in general, right, but when the balance,
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when it's so far out of balance, you know, when
it's like stress. Okay, then you then you have to
take a look at it and consider the alternative, like
is this the time to say we are complete for this?
It's funny what you just said. I was taught years
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ago about a job about jobs, and it was if
you do the rules. So if you really love what
you're doing one of the time, you might want to
stick with it. If you don't, you might want us
try to find something else. But we can do that
with work related because we don't make it as personal. Right,
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So I think what you're kind of what you're saying,
that kind of what you're saying is how do you
parlay that into your own life to be able because
I think to be able to I guess, function and
have a level of health that maybe you don't if
you're holding on like a hoarder. You know, we people,
we hoard lots of things, no for free them. We hoard,
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we do, we heard stuff, We hoard people. We you know,
it's what we do. So how can we not be
a hoarder? Well, again, I would say the forty one
is a little tight because there's so many times in relation,
you know, for just for for me personally says the libra.
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But relationships are really important to me, so you know,
because sometimes you have to go through the tension for
a while before you can reach the break through to
the next level in the relationship. And and so just
like when you have a hard problem at work, it's
the same thing with relationships. Like it. Let there be
a little tension to find your own resilience in your
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growth edge and and you know, move through it. But
if you keep growing in expanding and the other person's
not or it's it's still your growth and expansion is
helping you, but it's not helping the situation improve it all,
then you would take a look at it and go,
you know what, I think we maxed out and and
it's okay, you know. And I always like thinking, you
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know what, we we ran our course here, we're good,
and we'll catch it in the next in the next round,
like in the next lifetime. It'll be fine, right, So yeah,
I like that. Yeah, And how to part with Grace Now,
I get now everyone's going to be down for that
story and that version, and they'll say bad things about you.
People want to understand that, and that is I want
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to take a break and come back. I can't believe
I'm being the break Boston. But I want to take
a break back because I I think we should talk
about how when you're able to identify, how do you
actually deal with it? Because you know, not everybody speaks spirituality,
not everybody buys into the concept if we have, you know,
contracts when we're in spirit form, and they just it's
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they they are more walking the earth right, Yeah, they're
in Yeah, they're in our school. Yeah. So I think
we should do that. So why don't we take a
break and we come right back. I can't believe how
respond I'm adulting right now with these breaks everybody, and
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we are back with Witchie Pooh and Elfie too. See
also runs ever come on? Like Pooh rhymes with a
last thing? Everything, I mean, everything revolves around Pooh. And
I just wanted to pause because I just want people
to giggle and just to have a moment that everything
revolves round Poo. Okay, so all our fourteen year old
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boys will be very happy about that. That is for you,
Pop Suey. I think you are my other fourteen year
old boy. I expect you to be giggling in this um.
So what we wanted to Actually I would like for
you to talk about, because your way better at this
than I am, is how do we handle the completion
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of a contract with grace? How do we you know,
because I had said before we broke, not everybody buys
into what we talked about, you know, they don't buy
into the fact that contracts were established, Yeah, and that
we even have more than one life, right, that's that's
not popular. So I would say, all that is, and
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that's your inside work, right, that's your internal work. That's
not work for someone else to do or or even accept. Right,
that's like and and part of that work is going
to be around forgiveness, right. You know, we've talked many
times about forgiveness. I'm a fan of the Saint Germain
prayer and you can google it Saint Germaine's prayer forgiveness,
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and it's about forgiving self and others. Like it's it's
a clearing that says, I learned, you learned, I'm sorry
for what may have harmed you. I forgive you for
how I was hurt in this exchange. And you have
to feel that at the core, Like, even if you
make it a ninety day practice, which I'm hugely fond
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of try a forty day practice, of a ninety day
practices and work try a thirty day practice. Don't go
less than twenty eight though, So that's my recommendation, um,
but to really work with forgiveness until you can love
that individual for who they are and truly feel gratitude
for your experience on the planet with them. It is
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a big ask. This is not small. But when you
can get there, and it can take years not days,
just to accept what it is, you still may need
to remove yourself from the situation with a declaration. Right,
declarations how we change energy about situations, and so you
may have to the example of that of a declaration,
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like when you say you might need to do declaration.
So first of all, when a declaration is done in
front of someone else, because it has to be witnessed.
Otherwise it's an affirmation. Right, affirmations are what we do
for ourselves. But like when people say I graduated, that's
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a declaration, or I'm married, that's a declaration where you
have people who witness it. And by the same token,
So if I'm going to end a relationship, what I'd
say is, you know, thank you so much for making
time for this conversation. It's really important to me where
I am right now. I've done a lot of reflection
about my situation and the phases I'm in, what I'm learning,
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what's up for me, where I'm expanding, where I'm releasing,
and the exchanges we've had recently have brought me so
much clarity that the current path that we've created between
us is complete. It is rich with blessings and lessons
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and opportunities to grow, and I will be unpacking those
continually for a while, but for now, I have reached
my maximum engagement in this frequency, in this way, in
the patterns that we have established, and so with so
much grad too it in my heart so much respect
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for you as a person, for what you brought and
who you are, that I feel at peace in releasing
our current engagement. Thank you, Thank you for hearing me,
thank you for understanding. And I wish you nothing but
blessings going forward. That's a beautiful that's absolutely beautiful way
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to do it. Have you had to do that before? Oh? Yeah, yeah,
I don't want that call for the record from you.
I will not accept your declaration if that's the phone
call that I get, And and the lovely thing is
some people may be met with that like I don't
accept it. But but and when you say that, I'd say,
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I understand. I accept that this is not your choice.
I am. I completely accept that, and I acknowledge that,
and I'm sorry if this hurts you in any way.
That's never my intention. And I have to honor my
own guidance at this time because I think a way
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to know that if this is the right path for you,
whomever to take is you can play that in your head,
like practice it in your head and see how you feel,
and if you feel a sense of freedom, then it's
the right path, right Like those things to kind of
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look at like filter through. I guess is that fair
to say? Yeah? I mean for me really, Like you
can get dramatic and put two pieces of paper and
write them and you know, write it down and say
I continue an activated relationship with It could be a company,
it could be a family member, it doesn't matter, like
and write them down, flip them over, spin them around,
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and hold it against your heart where you don't see it.
Just hold it against your heart and see how it feels.
Then put the other put it down, put the other
one against your hearts, see how it feels like, drop
into your heart space, breathe it in whatever reality like
whatever it feels like, and then trust that guidance. That's
a great way to do it. I would use a
penchi alone, of course, but I think that that's a
really and for some people you'll put against your third
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chakra instead of your heart, like depending on your situation.
But either one of those two centers are really strong
and usually pretty fast, like it'll tell you immediately like
this feels so good. Well, that's why people always say
like I feel it in my gut, you know, like
they're translating. And in the business world they literally call
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it a gut check. What's your gut check on that deal?
It just me, It always makes me. I love that
it's they're like I feel it in my gut or
my heart is bursting, you know. It's like everybody gets
I get a kick out of people. There's also transfer,
but I think this is such a an important thing
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I think for all of us in Earth school to
you know, take that inventory or two. When you feel
something you know, don't just tamp it down, tap it down,
really spend some time with it. Be like is this
is my contract? What if this is? If I should
continue with this? Um, it's good to ask those I
can just yeah, and you know, go to go to
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your your person whoever that is that knows you through
and through and it's there for you all the time,
and and like ask them, does this am I crazy?
Here is? You know? Does this sound? Can you? Can
you help me feel? And if anybody doesn't have that person,
you're free to call Suzanne because Susanne all things like that.
So if you don't have it, just reach out to Suzanne.
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She will tell you. Yeah, so good. She's such a
great space, always on my side. Yes, so amazing. Yum.
So in this way, like just be open that you
get to have relief. I think that's really important. And
this is part of your self care. This isn't you
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doing something to someone else. This is part of you
honoring your all your options, not just obligations, right, and
it is ultimately, yeah, no one wants to be an
obligation ultimately, even if they don't like your idea. But
you know, no one went So it's it's like I
was talking to her friend the other day and she's
having some love life issues like everybody does. Let's be honest,
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and and I was, I said the same thing. I'm like, darling,
you don't want to be with somebody who doesn't want
to be with you. Do you deserve better than that?
You know, like you don't have to chase this person down.
You don't have to. I mean, stocking is cool and
fun until it's not. Can't you are nothing? Oh my god,
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I did say that out loud. I did. I did
said it out loud. Um. But it's like, you know,
that is that it's that principle of I think when
the many important principles of our school is being true
to yourself and also your value and um, and that's
that's part of the whole journey, that's part that's why
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we go to our school. Like if I don't know
how we are exactly exactly, but but in us girls
you know, and I know men struggle too, but us
girls seem to continue continuously have a problem with our value. Yeah,
and we didn't make it up. We are shown this
day in day out. We are shown day in day
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in about our value. And I mean, god, I mean
there was a time and we were it was best
if we were only seen and not heard and if
seen in the kitchen. So there's history here for why
we feel this way, and I um, you know, it
is an empowering part of us. It's not easy, it's hard.
This is like our school grad school. Ship is to
be able to identify when a contract is complete during
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your lifetime, because all contracts are not complete at end,
they can be complete throughout. I mean, and I think
that's the it's and it's obvious when you say it
out loud. I'm getting animated now on like throw my
hands around. But it's but that that sets up your
whole next journey. So you want to be as clean
with as many contracts as physically possible, yes is humanly possible,
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Like take care of them so you don't just repeat.
So this lifetime isn't just a repeat of the next
one or the other. Wa I keep saying all the time.
I'm like, I hope I screw so many things up
and fix them so I never have to do them again.
It's like I'm in the game. I'm not on the sidelines.
I'm on the field and I'm going to get tackled.
I can't believe I'm using football analogies. I'm gonna get tackled.
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I'm gonna like run to the end zone and do
the dance and Wenna, do all those things because I
want a different life next time. This one has been
exquisite and continues to be and I know will be,
but I want a different one. I want Susanne around,
but I want a different one with Susanne. Yeah, you know, um,
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but I but I think that's why it's like you
keep holding on and hoarding. Right, Um, it's to me,
it's meant to flow. It's meant to flow, exactly, it's
meant to flow. And if it's not flowing, yeah, it's
fine out where the damn is well? And really what
they say, right, if it's not moving instead, if it's
not moving, it's exactly right. If it's not animated, if
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it's not a charge that pulsation of breath right instead right,
and then you know you just carrying it around? Right.
It's heavy, it's really heavy, it's resive, it's energetically eve right,
because everything does have a price. Do your inventory people try? Yeah,
this is great, Brenda, thank you so much. I mean
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to move forward and all of those things, and I
think that's the whole goal is to hopefully offer that
to everyone who tunes in. Yes, thank you, thank you
for the conversation. No, it's great. Always good to see
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once you learn to navigate the energetic, or to some
the invisible world, life is going to be more fun
and much more serene. Heck, yes it can, because let's
be honest, Brian, earth school is hard. In fact, you
taught me that let's crush Earth School together. Well, hello,
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my witchy of Pooh. That's that's actually what I'm calling Cincinnati.
Cincinnati now is woo. So it's like the WITCHI, how
are you doing? Entertained? But I love Cincideata I'm calling
it Pooh. It's just you know, maybe it's your neighborhood,
(01:04):
like yeah, sharing something of Yorkshire. Yes, that is, you
have to have land. You have to be like a
ruler over something, so I don't know what that could be.
You're definitely the ruler over me and Lulu, so we
restart the back of which you rule. I think Lulu
(01:24):
would beg to difference right, you're you're she rules over you,
I know pretty much. So I'm just find my own
how that's perfect. I'm doing great. And I met an
incredibly interesting person that I want you to meet someday. Yes,
she's a new colleague. Her name is Claire, which I
love because of clairvoyance and clair audience. Wait and here's
(01:47):
here's this is why I'm bringing her up because it's
so fascinating. Her father did research on their lineage and
she is a descendant of the original three witches that
were uh huh in Salem, Massachusetts. Right, and her name
is Claire. That's insane exactly. And she's cool and witchy,
(02:12):
and I get like, of course I had. I gave
her black termline because she's had a few little um
she got. Yeah, she's got a little hat man actually
sleep paralysis that that kicks her in the butt, and
some smoky courts to ground her. And then since we
have the new moon that coming going whatever it was
of the of black moonstone, I gave her too. But
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she's so witchy. I love it. So she practices that
she No, I think it's more innate, like it's just
part of who she is. But I think that she
may very well be getting to that point. But she's
got some gifts, clearly got some gifts. Definitely got she's
got gifts. But she's also had some take alongs for
(02:54):
a while. So yeah, we're gonna work on that. You
may not have, Yeah, she may not have palaxis. Yeah.
Then her name is Claire. I mean they named her
Claire and she's a descendant of which is from Salem.
Oh my god. Anyway, so I just thought that I
met her yesterday. That's why I'm so excited. How did
you meet? Susan? I and the dogs are here in
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Austin with the company that I'm on the board of
directors for called story Fit, and she is a She
has her PhD in media psychology. You know how I
like those people like Dr Pam I love I love
those I love people in psychology field. I learned so
much from them and I test theories and I'm wrong
(03:35):
a lot, but ever once while I get one something right.
It's fun. But anyway, so I met her. She's new
to the team, and so I met her yesterday here
and when I first saw her, I was like, huh,
like you know right, you know, when there's something really
interesting about somebody, and uh, then she wouldn't. It's right,
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It's like, what's happening here anyway, So just fun. I
just thought it was really fun to share with our
listeners that you know, we because you are included. She
now knows who you are. Uh. And she loved Cincinnati,
by the way. I didn't ask why, um and because
I do because of you and all my readers. But
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but anyway, I thought it was fascinating, so I was fascinating.
So I just wanted to share it because that's cool
that her, like her dad, did the research to find
that lineage. And just I'm gonna throw in one more
weird thing. I know we're supposed to talk about other stuff,
but this is just some really interesting things that have
happened in the world that you know, and it's it's
a bit of the world is small, right, not that
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part about her, But she's connected to another one. She
just moved to Buffalo, New York, and you know my
cousin Kristen. So I said to her, I'm like, hey,
I'll introduce you to my cousin Kristen. You'll love her somebody,
you know, to get to know kind of thing. And
then I said, she saysn't about her husband's family, who's
an attorney. So we'll see if he knows Norman Wolf,
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who was my uncle who was a State Supreme Court judge.
Kristen's dad. Not only does he know Norm, he was
Norm's older brother's law partner, Fred Fred Wolf. This her
in law. Her father in law was practice practice law
partnership with my cousin's other uncle. Oh, I mean, come on,
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so anyway, I've had a good time the last twenty
four hours. That is so many giggles in there, layers,
layers and layers. Yeah, so we have she's a witch,
descendative a witch, and weirdly connected to my Wolf side
of the family. So anyway, it just fun has been
had on my part for twenty four hours, which is
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part of being in the world again and meeting new people,
and it's and I and it's fun, right, especially when
they're descendative witches and practically family and serious family practiced
law with Fred Wolf. I'm just like, what, of course,
And it's just so fun to acknowledge the little link
from the universe, right, I love that. I love that
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so instead it just makes it more. It does make
it more of it does. That's why I was so
I'm telling everybody, not just you. I'm not telling you,
but I'm in fact telling stands of thousands of people
that about this um. But I think funny thing about
it is that, weirdly, I think the story is a
bit connected to what we wanted to talk about today,
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because I think it is. I didn't even didn't even
dawn on me. I was as excited and then uh,
here the puzzle pieces to start being, you know, fitting together.
But we've talked so just so everybody knows, you know,
Bren and I always talk about what would be interesting
to address, and what are things that we've already addressed,
and what things are incomplete that we haven't finished the
storytelling part of it for everyone. And you know, we've
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talked a lot about when we're in spirit form and
we create contracts with those in our spirit tribe, and
but we've never talked about what happens when we're all
plumped down on earth together, you know, And how do
we know, right, how do we know if we're on contract,
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if we are contracts are complete? You know, because Pete,
we have this as humans. I find this to be
a very funny thing. So humanity. It's like, we think
we need to keep people in our lives forever, including
the bad ones, including the relationships that aren't good or
healthy for us. We just hold onto them because we
think we're supposed to. We think that it's a badge
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of honor to have longevity on our relationships. I'm not
saying it's a bad thing, but we think all of
them have to be like that is kind of what
my point is. Well, and I think you know, this
came out of a conversation coming out of the couple
of episodes I did, but most recently the one where
we talked about how your soul chooses, like, your soul
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is set up to express the next level of understanding
and integration of lessons and blessings and all that and
and so this kind of is the continuation that says, Okay,
so if you understand that from a soul concept and
that these are the spiritual and soul level contracts that
you've committed to, what in the world do you do
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with them now that you're here in our school exactly like,
how do how do we engage? How do we navigate
to get the most out of it? Not to have dominion,
you know, have power over someone, right, but to actually
look at internal and say, what's possible for me to
learn and grow and contribute at the highest level. And
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that is done? I think that's the thing. When is
it done? And how do we handle it when it's done?
What do we do with it? How can we be
graceful with it? How I identify it for starters, because
that's part of that thing is that I know so
many of us have had relationships that needed to be
and we just kept them going or or or we'd
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set something up to make them just like self destruct
because we didn't know what else to do, but we
knew that they were Sometimes they have to burn down
the house from the inside. Well exactly, Okay, I can't
get out, I can't get out, gotta I gotta burn
it down. And so with the loeu of burning it down,
how can we help navigate and we don't have to
burn stuff down all the time? Yeah, okay, right, that's
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the table. Table is set for today that we should
probably take a quickie break because I think that my
intro took a really long time. We covered a lot
of ground in the intro. We've covered a lot of ground. Okay,
so we're gonna take a quickie break and we'll be
right back, y'all. Okay, my witchy pooh. Everybody would much
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rather hear from you. Oh look see I can rhyme
everything I possibly can. I just I'm here to exactly right,
lots lots of with food for the record. Um, and
you have your own emoji. Um. So so this is
where you are. I mean, obviously far more of an expert,
because just you are. And that's not true. You have
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as many contracts as I do, but probably because you know,
I know, I know, I'm a busy elf, but you
are the busiest. But I think it's best for you
to like like take us back like we're in class now. Okay,
well this is what I think. One of the many
brilliant points that you illuminated for us in the intro was,
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you know, how do we know it's a soul? Like
it's a contract? Like how do we know? And there's
there's so many ways, like you know that the nervous
system is informed from our previous lives. Right, that's why
sometimes trauma can be you know, brought forward from past lives. Um,
it can be transmitted through the lineage. And it can
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also you know that excitement, right, the nervous system really
fire sort of in the same way when we're excited
and when we're frightened, that third chocolate snapping shot, that
feeling where you feel like you're going to throw up instantly,
you're like, what's happening here? And it could be really
good or really bad, and it can be you know,
that's what many people call it, you know, that love
at first sight. It can be a remembrance, it can
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be terrifying, it can be really exciting. All that can happen,
but there's some level of engagement that is usually elevated.
Then when a contract isn't isn't in place, so you
just have a really strong reaction. This is why in
so many rom coms, boy meets girl or boy meets
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boy or girl needs girl, whatever comparing it is, that's present,
and it's like, I hate you. You're the ugliest thing ever,
you know, you stink whatever, right, and and then of
course not to not to write a rom con well,
I'm just actually what do stick like exactly? You know,
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But it's it's this immature reaction, is my point, Like
it's this immature and it's inappropriate, and it's like it's people.
But people watch her to go what are you? What
are you doing? Like they're just making a present Like
why are you having such a strong reaction? Why are
you thinking about the presentation? Or why you know, why
you're pulling her hair or you know whatever it is,
like it's this really weird sort of thing. You're like,
I don't even know, I don't even know to skim
away from me, right, And it's like, oh, there's something there, right,
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So there's something there, and that doesn't mean people will
often miss a diagnose that or misidentify that better word
of either as this is really good or really bad,
and then they proceed as though that story they tell
is true and so they avoid them or they you know,
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won't leave them, you know whatever it is, and then
they keep telling that story and then they instead of
like going, wait a minute, what's actually going on here?
Why why am I behaving this way? And and why
am I having such a strong reaction? Oh, maybe this
is a remembrance. Maybe this is like I'm I'm filling
some karma here. Maybe there's a lesson or something for
me that, you know, something I get to close out
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in this lifetime, which can be super helpful on the
soul level and feel so complete and masterful. Um and
I know people who and freeing and affirming and exciting,
and you know, it's and it doesn't like I think
about people I know who have that soul connection at
work where it's like a creative mortgage board. They can
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do whatever, Like whatever challenge you throw to this team,
they just knock it out of the park. They're just
like boom, got it. You know, they crank on it,
they bring in resources, they get inspired, they you know,
and they like they create these solutions whatever it is,
and it's euphoric almost rights. I mean you in Hollywood especially,
any creative environment is super charged, right and and so.
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But then when that project is done, they usually get
released to the things and they remember that as a
peak experience in their life. But they don't try and
hold onto it and restled to the ground and you know,
your mind forever like that. Because we're supposed to, as
you said, you understand the lesson, understand the commitment to
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each other. The closure can be part of the sacred
way of how we navigate forward. And that isn't something
we usually talk about. So when it's when it's sort
of managed externally by an organization, it's much easier. But
how can we bring that sort of like logic, Hey,
this is efficient, this was good for this phase, this
is good for this time in my life, for where
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I am, but it doesn't have to necessarily go on forever.
And how do we know that? It totally make sense
to me, But how do we because you were talking
about like all of those points of ignition that we
have that recognition, right, but what are those signs of
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when it's time for a contract to close? Well, I
think first of all, just talking about that topic and
making it okay for people to consider, like I can
adore you and value you for your contributions, for who
you are, for what you're doing in the world, um
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for your presence in my life, but that doesn't mean
I owe you my life, like just even like considering
that as like, oh, is this valuable to me? Is
this continuing to create value in my life? Or does
it create stress? And and make sure that Look, life is,
relationships are hard just in general, right, but when the balance,
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when it's so far out of balance, you know, when
it's like stress. Okay, then you then you have to
take a look at it and consider the alternative, like
is this the time to say we are complete for this?
It's funny what you just said. I was taught years
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ago about a job about jobs, and it was if
you do the rules. So if you really love what
you're doing one of the time, you might want to
stick with it. If you don't, you might want us
try to find something else. But we can do that
with work related because we don't make it as personal. Right,
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So I think what you're kind of what you're saying,
that kind of what you're saying is how do you
parlay that into your own life to be able because
I think to be able to I guess, function and
have a level of health that maybe you don't if
you're holding on like a hoarder. You know, we people,
we hoard lots of things, no for free them. We hoard,
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we do, we heard stuff, We hoard people. We you know,
it's what we do. So how can we not be
a hoarder? Well, again, I would say the forty one
is a little tight because there's so many times in relation,
you know, for just for for me personally says the libra.
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But relationships are really important to me, so you know,
because sometimes you have to go through the tension for
a while before you can reach the break through to
the next level in the relationship. And and so just
like when you have a hard problem at work, it's
the same thing with relationships. Like it. Let there be
a little tension to find your own resilience in your
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growth edge and and you know, move through it. But
if you keep growing in expanding and the other person's
not or it's it's still your growth and expansion is
helping you, but it's not helping the situation improve it all,
then you would take a look at it and go,
you know what, I think we maxed out and and
it's okay, you know. And I always like thinking, you
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know what, we we ran our course here, we're good,
and we'll catch it in the next in the next round,
like in the next lifetime. It'll be fine, right, So yeah,
I like that. Yeah, And how to part with Grace Now,
I get now everyone's going to be down for that
story and that version, and they'll say bad things about you.
People want to understand that, and that is I want
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to take a break and come back. I can't believe
I'm being the break Boston. But I want to take
a break back because I I think we should talk
about how when you're able to identify, how do you
actually deal with it? Because you know, not everybody speaks spirituality,
not everybody buys into the concept if we have, you know,
contracts when we're in spirit form, and they just it's
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they they are more walking the earth right, Yeah, they're
in Yeah, they're in our school. Yeah. So I think
we should do that. So why don't we take a
break and we come right back. I can't believe how
respond I'm adulting right now with these breaks everybody, and
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we are back with Witchie Pooh and Elfie too. See
also runs ever come on? Like Pooh rhymes with a
last thing? Everything, I mean, everything revolves around Pooh. And
I just wanted to pause because I just want people
to giggle and just to have a moment that everything
revolves round Poo. Okay, so all our fourteen year old
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boys will be very happy about that. That is for you,
Pop Suey. I think you are my other fourteen year
old boy. I expect you to be giggling in this um.
So what we wanted to Actually I would like for
you to talk about, because your way better at this
than I am, is how do we handle the completion
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of a contract with grace? How do we you know,
because I had said before we broke, not everybody buys
into what we talked about, you know, they don't buy
into the fact that contracts were established, Yeah, and that
we even have more than one life, right, that's that's
not popular. So I would say, all that is, and
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that's your inside work, right, that's your internal work. That's
not work for someone else to do or or even accept. Right,
that's like and and part of that work is going
to be around forgiveness, right. You know, we've talked many
times about forgiveness. I'm a fan of the Saint Germain
prayer and you can google it Saint Germaine's prayer forgiveness,
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and it's about forgiving self and others. Like it's it's
a clearing that says, I learned, you learned, I'm sorry
for what may have harmed you. I forgive you for
how I was hurt in this exchange. And you have
to feel that at the core, Like, even if you
make it a ninety day practice, which I'm hugely fond
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of try a forty day practice, of a ninety day
practices and work try a thirty day practice. Don't go
less than twenty eight though, So that's my recommendation, um,
but to really work with forgiveness until you can love
that individual for who they are and truly feel gratitude
for your experience on the planet with them. It is
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a big ask. This is not small. But when you
can get there, and it can take years not days,
just to accept what it is, you still may need
to remove yourself from the situation with a declaration. Right,
declarations how we change energy about situations, and so you
may have to the example of that of a declaration,
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like when you say you might need to do declaration.
So first of all, when a declaration is done in
front of someone else, because it has to be witnessed.
Otherwise it's an affirmation. Right, affirmations are what we do
for ourselves. But like when people say I graduated, that's
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a declaration, or I'm married, that's a declaration where you
have people who witness it. And by the same token,
So if I'm going to end a relationship, what I'd
say is, you know, thank you so much for making
time for this conversation. It's really important to me where
I am right now. I've done a lot of reflection
about my situation and the phases I'm in, what I'm learning,
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what's up for me, where I'm expanding, where I'm releasing,
and the exchanges we've had recently have brought me so
much clarity that the current path that we've created between
us is complete. It is rich with blessings and lessons
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and opportunities to grow, and I will be unpacking those
continually for a while, but for now, I have reached
my maximum engagement in this frequency, in this way, in
the patterns that we have established, and so with so
much grad too it in my heart so much respect
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for you as a person, for what you brought and
who you are, that I feel at peace in releasing
our current engagement. Thank you, Thank you for hearing me,
thank you for understanding. And I wish you nothing but
blessings going forward. That's a beautiful that's absolutely beautiful way
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to do it. Have you had to do that before? Oh? Yeah, yeah,
I don't want that call for the record from you.
I will not accept your declaration if that's the phone
call that I get, And and the lovely thing is
some people may be met with that like I don't
accept it. But but and when you say that, I'd say,
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I understand. I accept that this is not your choice.
I am. I completely accept that, and I acknowledge that,
and I'm sorry if this hurts you in any way.
That's never my intention. And I have to honor my
own guidance at this time because I think a way
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to know that if this is the right path for you,
whomever to take is you can play that in your head,
like practice it in your head and see how you feel,
and if you feel a sense of freedom, then it's
the right path, right Like those things to kind of
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look at like filter through. I guess is that fair
to say? Yeah? I mean for me really, Like you
can get dramatic and put two pieces of paper and
write them and you know, write it down and say
I continue an activated relationship with It could be a company,
it could be a family member, it doesn't matter, like
and write them down, flip them over, spin them around,
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and hold it against your heart where you don't see it.
Just hold it against your heart and see how it feels.
Then put the other put it down, put the other
one against your hearts, see how it feels like, drop
into your heart space, breathe it in whatever reality like
whatever it feels like, and then trust that guidance. That's
a great way to do it. I would use a
penchi alone, of course, but I think that that's a
really and for some people you'll put against your third
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chakra instead of your heart, like depending on your situation.
But either one of those two centers are really strong
and usually pretty fast, like it'll tell you immediately like
this feels so good. Well, that's why people always say
like I feel it in my gut, you know, like
they're translating. And in the business world they literally call
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it a gut check. What's your gut check on that deal?
It just me, It always makes me. I love that
it's they're like I feel it in my gut or
my heart is bursting, you know. It's like everybody gets
I get a kick out of people. There's also transfer,
but I think this is such a an important thing
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I think for all of us in Earth school to
you know, take that inventory or two. When you feel
something you know, don't just tamp it down, tap it down,
really spend some time with it. Be like is this
is my contract? What if this is? If I should
continue with this? Um, it's good to ask those I
can just yeah, and you know, go to go to
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your your person whoever that is that knows you through
and through and it's there for you all the time,
and and like ask them, does this am I crazy?
Here is? You know? Does this sound? Can you? Can
you help me feel? And if anybody doesn't have that person,
you're free to call Suzanne because Susanne all things like that.
So if you don't have it, just reach out to Suzanne.
(26:47):
She will tell you. Yeah, so good. She's such a
great space, always on my side. Yes, so amazing. Yum.
So in this way, like just be open that you
get to have relief. I think that's really important. And
this is part of your self care. This isn't you
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doing something to someone else. This is part of you
honoring your all your options, not just obligations, right, and
it is ultimately, yeah, no one wants to be an
obligation ultimately, even if they don't like your idea. But
you know, no one went So it's it's like I
was talking to her friend the other day and she's
having some love life issues like everybody does. Let's be honest,
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and and I was, I said the same thing. I'm like, darling,
you don't want to be with somebody who doesn't want
to be with you. Do you deserve better than that?
You know, like you don't have to chase this person down.
You don't have to. I mean, stocking is cool and
fun until it's not. Can't you are nothing? Oh my god,
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I did say that out loud. I did. I did
said it out loud. Um. But it's like, you know,
that is that it's that principle of I think when
the many important principles of our school is being true
to yourself and also your value and um, and that's
that's part of the whole journey, that's part that's why
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we go to our school. Like if I don't know
how we are exactly exactly, but but in us girls
you know, and I know men struggle too, but us
girls seem to continue continuously have a problem with our value. Yeah,
and we didn't make it up. We are shown this
day in day out. We are shown day in day
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in about our value. And I mean, god, I mean
there was a time and we were it was best
if we were only seen and not heard and if
seen in the kitchen. So there's history here for why
we feel this way, and I um, you know, it
is an empowering part of us. It's not easy, it's hard.
This is like our school grad school. Ship is to
be able to identify when a contract is complete during
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your lifetime, because all contracts are not complete at end,
they can be complete throughout. I mean, and I think
that's the it's and it's obvious when you say it
out loud. I'm getting animated now on like throw my
hands around. But it's but that that sets up your
whole next journey. So you want to be as clean
with as many contracts as physically possible, yes is humanly possible,
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Like take care of them so you don't just repeat.
So this lifetime isn't just a repeat of the next
one or the other. Wa I keep saying all the time.
I'm like, I hope I screw so many things up
and fix them so I never have to do them again.
It's like I'm in the game. I'm not on the sidelines.
I'm on the field and I'm going to get tackled.
I can't believe I'm using football analogies. I'm gonna get tackled.
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I'm gonna like run to the end zone and do
the dance and Wenna, do all those things because I
want a different life next time. This one has been
exquisite and continues to be and I know will be,
but I want a different one. I want Susanne around,
but I want a different one with Susanne. Yeah, you know, um,
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but I but I think that's why it's like you
keep holding on and hoarding. Right, Um, it's to me,
it's meant to flow. It's meant to flow, exactly, it's
meant to flow. And if it's not flowing, yeah, it's
fine out where the damn is well? And really what
they say, right, if it's not moving instead, if it's
not moving, it's exactly right. If it's not animated, if
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it's not a charge that pulsation of breath right instead right,
and then you know you just carrying it around? Right.
It's heavy, it's really heavy, it's resive, it's energetically eve right,
because everything does have a price. Do your inventory people try? Yeah,
this is great, Brenda, thank you so much. I mean
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I feel so much more educated and healthy and confident
to move forward and all of those things, and I
think that's the whole goal is to hopefully offer that
to everyone who tunes in. Yes, thank you, thank you
for the conversation. No, it's great. Always good to see
you myself. You wait to start again, and remember our
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