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March 20, 2024 • 51 mins

What is an animal communicator and what exactly do they do? Today you'll meet Coryelle Kramer, Animal Communicator and Creator of the Dynamic Pet Personalities. Coryelle has had the gift of animal communication since she was a child. Through shared gifts of telepathy and empathy, Coryelle connects with the beloved pet(s) in your life, bringing awareness and healing to the forefront of the connection you share with these very special members of your family.

Coryelle also shares how integral the support she had from her mother was in establishing and honoring her telepathic gifts, the importance of presence in our lives, how to shield yourself from negative energy, and the difference between creative and cognizant sides of the human brain.

What an honor it is to have Coryelle on our show and share her wisdom with you. Because Earth School is hard, without the loving bonds we share with the animal kingdom, magnified and blessed deeply with help from Coryelle and the Other Side.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to Insider's Guide to the Other Side, a production
of iHeartRadio.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
Hi, y'all, I'm Julie.

Speaker 3 (00:09):
Hi there, I'm Brenda. Welcome to Insider's Guide to the
Other Side.

Speaker 1 (00:14):
Now, y'all need to know that we are obsessed with
everything on the other side.

Speaker 3 (00:20):
Yes we are, because once you learn to navigate the energetic,
or to some the invisible world, life is going to
be more fun and much more serene.

Speaker 1 (00:31):
Uh heck, yes it can, because let's be honest, for
in earth school is hard.

Speaker 3 (00:36):
In fact, you taught me that let's crush Earth school together.

Speaker 1 (00:42):
Well, hello, by Witchy Pooh, do I have a guest
for you? And I'm so excited awesome, and you need
to ask who's our guest?

Speaker 3 (00:51):
Who's our guest?

Speaker 2 (00:53):
Who do you have for us?

Speaker 1 (00:54):
Oh my gosh. So I just have to say, so
we have with us today and so excited to bring
to everybody to our audience is coriel Kramer. And Corielle
is a right, she is an animal communicator. And I
just have to give a little like little origin story
here because I think it's kind of fun. Is I

(01:15):
actually was introduced to Coriele by my high school boyfriend's
sister Diane. Yeah, unpack that everybody. And and Deana is
now is a friend of mine. I've known her forever
and she came to town and she had said, she goes,
you know, I've met this really amazing woman and you
know she actually you know, connected with my dog and

(01:37):
Da Da da, and I really want you to meet her,
like I think you'll like her. And I'm like, I'm
sure I would.

Speaker 2 (01:42):
Let's do it.

Speaker 1 (01:42):
And so we actually met, and and so Coriel and
I have developed a friendship and and also Suzanne, and
it's just really it's been fun so far. And I've
just learned a lot more about her, and I thought
that everybody else would want to learn more about, you know,
her origin story and what she's developed. And I just
think it's really exciting.

Speaker 2 (02:01):
So welcome Coreol so much in the commuter house.

Speaker 1 (02:08):
That's where we are, right.

Speaker 2 (02:11):
It's true, thank you old ladies for having me.

Speaker 1 (02:13):
Oh we're so excited. Yeah, and I can't wait to
learn even more. So let's look, let's get going. So
as our audience knows, and as Brenda teases me relentlessly,
is that I do love a good origin story. I
think understanding where people came from, or characters like on
you know, Iron Man, which I've referenced a lot. Understanding

(02:34):
where they come from, you understand more about where they are.
And I think that trying to understand you know, really coreol.
Like I think people have probably heard your accent, so
they might know you're from New York, but but you do,
but you are my neighbor ish in Santa Fe. Maybe
I don't know many people from Oklahoma that have your accents,

(02:54):
so so why don't So why don't you share with us,
you know, the early days of when you started to
you know, maybe even like just right before you your
first experience and kind of like with your mom and
where you were living, and then that first experience and

(03:15):
then we'll kind of go on from there because it's
a fascinating experience.

Speaker 2 (03:19):
Well, thank you. So the origin story is really coming
from a woman who was, in my eyes, extraordinary, and
that was my mother, and she was very supportive of
the intuitive abilities that I showed at a very very
early age. I would remember coming to her and saying,

(03:42):
I see spirits. The cat said this, the dog said
that I see Grandma. Even though my grandparents had all
passed way before I was even born. So she would
always sit me down and ask me, what's going on,
what does this mean? Process this, let's look at this,

(04:04):
as opposed to making me scared of what I could do.
So she was a very forward thinking woman. She marched
for things like equal rights for women and racial rights
and equality for genders and the peace movement. You know,

(04:25):
she was very forward thinking. You couldn't really tell her anything.
She didn't take small minded people very well. So she
was very supportive of what I could do, even though
it wasn't really honed. My earliest memory of connecting to
an animal, I mean really connecting and having a full

(04:46):
blown conversation as opposed to just like single words was
around about age four or five, and my mom and
I were going to the supermarket and you.

Speaker 1 (04:58):
Guys, where are you guys living at the New York.

Speaker 2 (05:01):
Born and raised Manhattan, as you can say when I
say the word coffee. So we were on our way
to the supermarket. She got to stopped by a neighbor,
and the neighbor and my mom were talking outside the
supermarket and my back was looking at them, and I remember,
I don't remember what they said. I just remember it

(05:23):
being kind of like the Charlie Brown cartoons. Two adults
talking wow wah wah wah whah. I don't remember what
they were talking about, adults stuff, And all of a sudden,
in my mind, in my head, I heard this voice.
It was a male voice, and I heard it really
really really clear, and it said, please pet me. And

(05:46):
I'm looking at my my adults that are in front
of me, these adults that are front of me. I
know it didn't come from them, so I look at her.
Or if it did, there's nobody around right, and so
but you got to check, you know, because even then
I was talking and seeing spirits. So I'm looking around

(06:07):
thinking when am I doing. Finally I look behind me
and I see this rot whiler. He was giant to me.
Remember I'm four years old, so I'm a little little bitty,
so he just looked like he was humongous. But he's
looking me at me, staring me in the eyes, and
he says, and I said said to him, what did

(06:29):
you say? And he said, please pet me. I hear
the voice in my head again. So I'm like, okay,
we have no fear at four years old, So I
go a lot of Dottie yelling over to the big
giant rot whiler, and I start petting him on the
head and I start scratching him under the chin, and

(06:50):
I start scratching him on his chest and he immediately
starts to lay down on his side, so I'm rubbing
him on his side. He's going all out and he's
having a ball, an absolute ball. And I remember being
in that joy of Even though I was four years old,
I understood that how important that moment was. I didn't,

(07:13):
you know, process it as I do now as an adult.
I was like, isn't this freaking awesome? You know, I
was able to hear him and help him. That was
so important to me, you know. I remember being so excited.
And I eventually rolls around on his back and I'm
rubbing his belly and he's having a great time. And

(07:36):
just I remember that joy in that moment, just both
of us just impure, unadulterated joy and happiness. It was
like we were in our own low bubble. And yeah,
it was so poignant, it was so strongly felt by
both of us.

Speaker 3 (07:57):
Well, it's a pure connection, right.

Speaker 2 (08:00):
The purest right, Yeah, like the absolute purest.

Speaker 3 (08:03):
Yeah, no obligation, just connecting out of joy.

Speaker 2 (08:07):
Ah, and just wanting to do good by this being,
you know, for no other reason other than that, well,
as fate would have it. All of a sudden, we're
in our bubble of joy, and all of a sudden,
I hear this man screaming, and he's screaming, you know,
get away from that dog. He's vicious, you know. And

(08:30):
our bubble was instantly popped broken, and the dog jumps
up on his feet, you know. And I'm still on
my knees, you know, and I see this man running
towards us with this anger on his face, and I
realized it as a four year old. Okay, that bubble
is broken. That moment is gone, and he grabs the

(08:52):
dog's leash, he unties it from the parking meter, and
he says something to me, and I remember it vaguely
as being don't be so stupid. This dog is vicious.
And he walks off with the dog, stomps off with
the dog, and I'm still on my knees and I'm
looking at the dog. The dog looks back and I
hear again the same voice in my head, that same

(09:16):
male voice in my head, and the dog says thank you,
and then they go down the street and around the corner,
and I never see that dog ever again, but we
had that moment. And my mom stops talking, of course,
as soon as the man starts screaming, and she runs
over to me and she says, what happened? And I said,

(09:38):
the dog just asked me to pet him, and I
pet him, and the guy got really upset. And I
remember my mom's look on her face. She looked at me,
not in fear, not in questioning, just like she took
it as gospel right then and there. And she looked
at me and then she her eyes crinkled and she

(10:00):
got you know, she was smiling, and she looked at
me and she tilts her to her head kind of
like an awe. She says, you are so special, my girl.
And that's my mom in a nutshell.

Speaker 3 (10:12):
You guys had the same mom.

Speaker 1 (10:14):
We told like, our moms would have totally been friends.
If either Coriel had to live in Oklahoma or we
lived in New York. I got moms would have been
best friends.

Speaker 2 (10:23):
Yeah, yepm would have.

Speaker 3 (10:25):
My mom would have been the same in the political realms,
but I'm not sure about the other. But that's amazing amazing.
It's amazing, and what a healing for that dog, right,
so much so? Right that says, you see, well, in.

Speaker 2 (10:43):
That moment, you're given something that I realized a course
years later when I thought about it. You know, the
dog was being told he's vicious all the time. He's
being probably trained to be this vicious animal, and he
really wasn't. In his heart, he was this lover. He
was probably the sensory, you know, dynamic personality archetype that

(11:07):
we'll talk about later. But looking back on it now,
he was a lover. He wasn't a fighter, but he
was made to feel like he had to be a fighter.

Speaker 3 (11:15):
Yeah. I had to be exhausted because it's because his
caretaker was so fearful. Yeah, I totally right. That's a great,
great origin story. So isn't that amazing. We'll be right back,

(11:38):
so welcome back. We're I'm so excited for this session.
I can't wait to hear more stories. So what else
start help for us?

Speaker 1 (11:45):
Yeah, because I remember when you know, one of the
times we've gotten together, I asked about like wild animals,
like have you had communications with wild animals? And of
course I'm asking like ship that I would think you'd
say no to because I like to do that. And
then I think I added, have you ever had a snake?
And you actually looked at me and said, well, I have,
So will you share the story because I love this story.

Speaker 2 (12:07):
So I loved you.

Speaker 1 (12:09):
I love all your stories, but this one was like
unbelievable to me. So again I'm prompting, so forgive the prompts.
But it's an amazing story.

Speaker 2 (12:18):
That's okay. So I was living in my mom's house
in upstate New York. And I believe it was around
about twenty ten or so, so she had passed, and
she passed in two thousand and eight. So I was
living in her house in upstate New York, and I
was outside and I was doing some gardening around the place,

(12:42):
and all of a sudden I heard again, all of
a sudden, but I see that there's the snake that
is in the garden. And it's a little garter snake.
There's nothing poisonous in upstate New York, at least not
that I'm aware of anyway.

Speaker 1 (12:58):
Politician, just politician, and that's the only boys.

Speaker 2 (13:01):
In the year. Yeah, I don't talk politics. That's a
dangerous subject.

Speaker 3 (13:06):
It was just a joke.

Speaker 2 (13:10):
So I this snake is looking at me intently. Now,
for a snake to look at you, that's pretty something,
you know, because usually they're down on the ground and
they're not really and I'm standing up and I'm not
six foot, I'm five six, but still for them to
get up and look at me. It was actually a

(13:31):
her because I always ask what their gender is, and
for her to look up at me up and she
said to me, she said, I want you to get
down on the ground. And I was like, okay, look,
you know, by this time, I've been talking to animals
almost half of my life, all right, so when they ask,
I don't really question. I'm just like, something's going to happen.

(13:54):
Just strap in, hold on, and enjoy the ride. So
I got down and I was sitting down, and the
snake said no, no, get lower, And I got lower
and I laid down with my chest on the ground,
and the snake was like, do you feel that? Just

(14:16):
Just take them home and feel that. What the snake
was trying to do is as straight as snake was saying.
You know, we're close to the ground. Being reptiles. The
reptiles are very close to the ground. And we feel
the heartbeat of the earth, and can you feel the
energy down here? And I did. It feels different. You're

(14:37):
closer to the Earth's magnetic field. And this is nothing
woo woo. This has been scientifically, although you know it's
still Native Americans have known about grounding or earthing or
whatever millennia. Okay, we know about it. We believe that
we walk upon the earth with grace and dignity and

(14:59):
because of that, super connected. But what happens is that
you get disconnected very very easily. And the snake was
trying to get me to feel the energy difference and
I did. It felt like the difference between hearing music

(15:20):
and going over to the speaker and hugging the music
the speaker feeling the music. Yeah, And it was really wild.
I had never done this before. And I was sitting there.
I was laying there with that snake for I think
it was upwards of two hours, which is feeling the
energy of the different plants and the roots and the

(15:41):
mushrooms and the hole and the grass and the trees.
And then she told me to go even deeper, and
she told me how to feel the heartbeat of the earth.
And it was like my heartbeat was. I heard my
blood pumping in my ears, and then I felt The

(16:01):
best way could describe it is I connected to the
Earth's core. I felt the energy there. And then eventually,
after a little bit of time. Don't ask me how long.
Time is irrelevant in this case. What started happening was
was that I started to feel like my heartbeat was
sinking up to the rhythm of the earth. Yes, and

(16:24):
I felt so connected. I felt so peaceful. I was
seeing stuff. This is why people I don't need to
go on any kind of drugs, okay, from what I'm seeing, okay.
And I started to as my heart sunk up with
the heartbeat of the earth or the pulsating of the earth.
I opened my eyes and it was like I saw

(16:44):
all the energy feels. I saw the ores of everything.
And I don't see ours normally, it's too much. It's
not my thing. So I saw the aura and the
energy that was shimmering around the trees and the grass
and everything. There was energy around everything. It was incredible.

(17:04):
It was absolutely incredible.

Speaker 1 (17:06):
Now, did the snake ask you to do something else
with the earth?

Speaker 3 (17:12):
Like the.

Speaker 1 (17:14):
Speed the something else?

Speaker 2 (17:17):
So once my heartbeat, thank you, for reminding me. So
what happened was was that my as my heartbeat sunk up,
the snake said, now you could start to see how
powerful you are. And of course I say, what do
you mean? And she says, change the heartbeat. Change your heartbeat,

(17:39):
and you change the heartbeat of the earth. And so
I was able through breathing techniques that I had learned,
I was able to really really slow down my breathing
and my heartbeat. And when I did that, I noticed
that the heart beat of the Earth started slowing down,
and vice versa. When the heart beat of the earth,

(18:00):
when I asked the connected to the energy of the
heartbeat of the earth, I asked it to speed up,
and I felt it speeding up, and then my heartbeat
started speeding up. So basically, the vibration of what was
going on with my heart was going on with the
vibration of the earth, and we were sinking up.

Speaker 3 (18:23):
That's awesome. That's awesome, Yeah, amazing.

Speaker 1 (18:31):
So I'm going to challenge every listener, after you listen
to this show, go out to the yard and lay
down and maybe as.

Speaker 2 (18:39):
Long as you're in a place that doesn't have a
lot of snow, exactly that's.

Speaker 3 (18:44):
What I'm thinking.

Speaker 1 (18:45):
That's totally fair. That's totally totally fair. Although we feel
like literally days so you know, you've you've you've shared
two really amazing I mean, obviously where this all leads
to is that this became your work in your life.
But but you shared two really amazing stories that really
could kind of make it tear up. And I know

(19:05):
that you know when we have, you know, spoken in
the past, that you know there are certain places that
make it really hard for you because of your sensitivities
and your communication gifts with or with the animal kingdom.
You know, this tell a little bit about the unpleasantness
of this as well.

Speaker 4 (19:24):
Well.

Speaker 2 (19:25):
In order to do that, I got to let you
know a little bit more of the abilities that I do.
So animals are telepathic, and when animals, what that means
is is that telepathic. The word telepathic is Latin for
feelings across the distance, so any kind of distance. It
doesn't have to be hundreds of thousands of miles, but

(19:46):
it can be. So animals are telepathic. This is why animals,
for example, wolves, when they're going after prey or hyenas
or any kind of prey animal that you've seen in
a group and a documentary. They are able to communicate
with each other through distances about where everybody needs to

(20:09):
be and positions and when attacking is supposed to happen,
and this whole thing. Yes, of course the animals see, okay,
each other's body language, but basically the way they communicate
that thought is to communicate connect to that other animal's energy,
and then through that they're able to send information to

(20:30):
one another. Okay, how else would you explain a pack
of hyenas or a pack of rules or whatever being
able to take down prey as precisely as they do. So,
first off, I'm telepathic. All human beings are telepathic. All
beings on this planet under telepathic. But humans, being humans,

(20:50):
we have a tendency to have what I call monkey minds.
So we're all busy about what we're going to do next.
When we're going to do we're not so much in
the present. We're usually in the future or where in
the past. So if you slow your mind down enough,
you'll understand how telepathic you are. But essentially, with every
word you speak, you are sending out an intention, You

(21:11):
are sending out a vibration, you are sending out an image,
and animals are understand that. So animals are telepathic. Animals
are also what I call empathic. So what EmPATH, basically
being an EmPATH mean is being able to feel feelings
of others. Whether that other might be a tree, or

(21:31):
might be a person, or might be an animal, doesn't matter.
So I'm empathic and I am telepathic, So I can
hear animals, I can end people's thoughts when they shoot
them to me. And I can feel the emotions and
the feelings of animals and people in the world around me.

(21:52):
So with these two abilities, so to speak, going to
certain places can be very, very challenging for me. Now
this is way before I was doing work professionally as
a professional animal communicator, as a professional intuitive, as a
professional energy healer. I have come to understand, as I'm

(22:16):
sure you ladies do about shielding. This is putting up
a bubble, okay, or whatever shape you want to use.
You can use an hexagonal, I don't care, Okay, exodon,
whatever you want to do. But the thing of it
is is that it's putting up a barrier so you
can and that barrier can be as strong or as

(22:40):
porous as you want it. To be or as solid
as you wanted to be. The more solid that barrier is,
the less stuff gets through. Well, I didn't know about
this when I was a kid. I was going around
Lady Doddy, Dodi Dada, I'm in the world, and what
was happening was was that I was getting inundated with
feelings and thoughts and images and pain, and so going

(23:05):
to places like circuses, zoos, heading zoos, going to animal shelters,
going to especially kill shelters where there's a lot of fear,
going to farms unless the animals were treated humanly became
a nightmare for me. I remember going to a circus

(23:28):
and everybody around me, I mean, I thought I was insane.
I don't know how old I was. I was probably
in the double digits, probably around maybe or maybe close
to a little less than that. Everybody around me. I
thought I was on LSD because everybody around me is
laughing and having a good time and screaming and yelling

(23:50):
and joy and I am almost in a fetal position
on the floor because I am just getting indodated bite
everything those animals were feeling. So it made life interesting.
But it's a blessing, and it could be a curse
if you don't understand how to tweak it and own

(24:11):
it and make it your own.

Speaker 3 (24:14):
Yeah, super important. We talk a lot about boundaries and
protection or shielding and yeah, yeah, super super important.

Speaker 1 (24:23):
And I had that experience at a rodeo even though
I was raised in Oklahoma. The rodeo that I went
to was actually in the Grand Tetons. It was some
work figgie horseshit thing, and the first night was We're
all going to a rodeo, and I was like, m
So I went and I was in there three point

(24:44):
two seconds and I left and I'm in tears and
I'm you know, I'm in my late twenties or whatever
I was, and I'm walking out of there and just
utter devastation and could not handle because it was the
it's that ethic part that I just I couldn't take.
So I totally understand that. So I think what we

(25:06):
probably need to do is taken another break and then
let's talk about the professional side, because I think this
is how this, this is all you know has been
cueuing into what you do as an adult for a
living and how you have can help other people and
even things that you've developed that others haven't, so we'll
be right back everybody, all.

Speaker 3 (25:35):
Right, welcome back everyone. I know, like I know, we
could listen to your stories all day and be amazed
and thrilled. And you know from your work because you
have so many you've seen and served so many people
and so many pets and wild animals and you know

(25:56):
captive animals, and you know everything that you've done. I
want to hear about how you've pulled it into like
a systemic process that can really serve other you know,
other people to understand what you're doing and how you
engage in the world. I think people are going to
be so excited about this, so can you tell us
a little bit about that.

Speaker 2 (26:15):
Sure, I love these these pet personalities. I think, without
exaggerating everybody, I tell them to get excited. So that's
a confirmation to me that I'm not loopy lou and
I'm just feeling my own, you know, awesomeness because I
think I am awesome. I think we're all awesome. I

(26:37):
think we need to own our awesomeness. But I think
these pet personalities honestly will transform the world. They are
so amazing and they are so transformative. But more than
anything they speak to. I believe both sides of the brain.

(26:57):
The problem with and I'm sure you ladies can understand
this and have your own stories around it, but the
problem with the metaphysical is it makes sense to the
creative side of the brain. It okay, but a lot
of it, A lot of people are fighting it with

(27:17):
the cognizant or the conscious side of the brain, meaning
the brain that's thinking too much, all right, and people fight.
They're constantly questioning, they're constantly doubting, they're constantly you know,
not sure or skeptical, or they're skeptical one minute and

(27:40):
then they're believing the next minute, but then they're questioning
what they're believing is. It's constant ping pong back and forth.
The pet personalities are the animal dynamics makes sense to
both sides of the brain. Because you're these techniques. You
cannot dispute it. They're physical manifestations and physical confirmations that

(28:05):
animal communication does exist. It is another form of animal communication.
In fact, I'm going to say that it takes animal
communication to a level it's never been done before. Because
when you are doing these techniques, when you're petting an
animal in a certain way specifically for their dynamic, and

(28:26):
they are responding your I think it's the left brain,
but if i'm not, please don't send me bad emails.
But the left brain shuts the heck up because the
left brain can't dispute that. The left brain is like,
wait a minute, I just pet that animal this way,

(28:46):
that animal responds this way, or go.

Speaker 3 (28:50):
It's working right, it all gets synced up, right, it
all lined, it.

Speaker 2 (28:55):
Gets a line. I've had clients who are totally incomplete skeptics.
They still wanted to do the animal dynamic work with me,
and I transformed the way they thought and they're just like,
in their own words, they're just like, no, this makes
sense to me. I understand this. I can get behind this,

(29:15):
and I'm not doubting this. So basically, what it is
is that for a lot of years I was doing
animal communication and it was wonderful. It was a beautiful tool.
I was doing healing work. It was doing I was
doing what I call one and done single reading sessions
where I would work anywhere between thirty minutes too, an hour,

(29:37):
two two hours. Okay. But the problem with the animal
communication eventually is is that you're trying to help an
animal in that space of time, you're trying to get
the answers to why they're doing what they're doing or
how they're feeling, and then get to the end game

(29:57):
or the end goal in that timeframe. So it's very constraint.
And what was happening was I was very good at
what I did. And that's not too to my horn.
This is being honest. So I was very good at
what I did, but it was kind of like throwing
making spaghetti and throwing it out the wall and hoping

(30:18):
it stuck.

Speaker 3 (30:19):
Yep. I could totally get that, Okay.

Speaker 2 (30:22):
Yeah, So what happened was was that I felt for
a long time, eventually I felt like I had hit
the glass ceiling with animal communication. I was gaining more information.
I was getting certified in flower essences, which I love,
and homeopathy which I love, and reiki which I love.

(30:45):
So I was getting all these certifications. I was adding
to my toolkit. So my toolkit was expanding outward sideways.
It wasn't expanding upward. I had done all I could
do with animal communication. There's just so much you can
do with it.

Speaker 3 (31:04):
Well, because you're not moving it, yeah, and you're not
moving in with them, right, So that's why.

Speaker 2 (31:09):
Right, and that, and you're taught it's talk therapy. You
can only do talk therapy for so long and then
you're you're just like, Okay, what else is there? But
I wasn't able to find how to move it through
the glass ceiling. So in twenty twenty, I started to
see a pattern. All of a sudden, I got this

(31:29):
download of and what I mean by download is all
of a sudden for those people who don't know, is
that you get this massive amount of information that just
comes into your brain and I call it and.

Speaker 3 (31:42):
It's one big chunk, right, It's like one big chunk boom.
It's clear.

Speaker 2 (31:47):
It's like all of a sudden the Wikipedia. You have
this information and a Wikipedia. If information gets put into
your brain and you don't know where it came from,
it certainly I'm driving a car from from Colorado to
Santa Fe. So it wasn't like I was reading a
book and all of a sudden that it just all

(32:09):
of a sudden just downloaded in. And I started to
see the pattern of personalities of the animals that I
spoke to. In the last year or so, I started
going over some of the animals that I I talked
to and I started to see a pattern.

Speaker 3 (32:24):
And I love that the all those sessions, right, the
thousands of sessions that you did, created that opening for
the download, right, because if it had just been downloaded,
you'd been like, oh, that's interesting, but then all of
a sudden you're like, oh, oh right, Like it's this
multi layered thing that keeps opening as you as you

(32:46):
open to it, it keeps opening more. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (32:48):
Yeah, it was an AHA moment. I literally had to
pull the car over. See, I was shaking so much
with the bigness of what was happening.

Speaker 4 (33:00):
Safety first, So what happened was was that I the
way that I was doing a session before was I
would connect to a person's animal and I would get
their personality.

Speaker 2 (33:19):
So I would say something like he's a little bit
kind of like a California surfer dude, or a little
bit of a diva or stuff like that there, and
people would say, that's my animal. And that's how I
knew that I had the right animal, and it would
also confirm to people. So I started to think about
those personalities and then I started to see a pattern,

(33:42):
and then I started to bring those patterns into and
evolved the dynamics into the work that I was doing
because I was still doing single sessions. And so what
happened is eventually the last dynamic that I discovered, the
seventh dynamic there are seven of them, was discovered in

(34:03):
twenty twenty three when I connected to a client's horse.
So right now, at this moment, there could be more, okay,
but right now I'm quite happy with seven. So there
are seven personalities for pets that also you could use
for people. But it's also it's easier to use it
for pets because pets are less. You know, they're complicated.

Speaker 3 (34:29):
You know, yeah, they don't get offended like people do.

Speaker 2 (34:34):
God love us, okay, God love us. But we and
when I say complicated, I don't mean we're smarter than animals.
I mean that animals are simplistic in how they connect
to life. They don't have the baggage we do.

Speaker 3 (34:52):
Well, they're authentic, right, yes, there's not. They don't play games,
they don't pull punches, they.

Speaker 2 (34:58):
Don't they and they're super connected to what I call
christ like consciousness love okay, which is connection to divinity, collection,
connection to the stream of well being, connection to just
feeling good. Okay, And we have a tendency to put
a lot of stuff in front of the sine of field.

Speaker 3 (35:18):
I hadn't noticed.

Speaker 2 (35:21):
Yeah, so anyway, So there are seven personality that you
can use for animals. Each personality likes to be talked
to differently, meaning used a different tone of voice, words
and phrases that really speak to their personality. They like
to be touched differently, they like to be interacted with.

(35:45):
You can use the dynamics for the food that they
like and why they like the things that they like
in food wise, and the dynamics also answered the question
of why your animal does what they do.

Speaker 3 (36:00):
So is this all in a book for us?

Speaker 1 (36:03):
I'll answer that not yet.

Speaker 2 (36:07):
It's coming. Okay, it's coming. But in the meantime I've
done a lot of videos on the dynamics, so people
can find that on YouTube with is my name?

Speaker 3 (36:19):
Okay? Okay.

Speaker 2 (36:21):
But the dynamics make it. They take your relationship with
your animal to a totally different level, a level you
can't get to without this knowledge because you don't understand
that your animals personality is got plus traits and minus traits.

(36:46):
So think of it like a gauge. The plus side
of this gauge is all good. Okay, you're in the green.
Everything's great, everything's working great. When your animals personality is
in the minus part of the gauge, what starts happening
is emotional issues can crop up, trauma, drama, unwanted behaviors,

(37:08):
even physical issues can be tied to your animal's personality
not being in the healthy plus state of the spectrum.

Speaker 3 (37:18):
Yep. And the thing is, without knowing, it can get worse, right,
it can spiral out of control.

Speaker 2 (37:23):
It never gets better.

Speaker 3 (37:25):
Until it gets addressed in a healthy healing.

Speaker 2 (37:28):
It always gets worse. Think of it. I tell people
think of it like a person meaning, think of the
personality like a like your personality. So when you are
in a happy go lucky, everything good, lottida happy, just
go out and everything's good state of the world. You're

(37:49):
meeting people with the same ideals. And even if you're not,
you're smiling at him and you laughing at him. How
you're doing. You know, nothing's bothering you. But when you're
feeling let's take a really strong minus trait like depression
that's hard to get out of. It can feel like
you're drowning because your personality of course there's other things

(38:15):
going on. There might be hormonal issues, there might be
other things physically going on within your body. There might
be trauma that you're going through. But what happened is
that trauma pushed your personality into a minus spectrum. So
you start going inward. You not expressing yourself to the
world as you feel like you need to. Right, So,

(38:38):
the more you go inward, unless that inward is a comforting,
happy place, the more of a spiral you go down.
So and it's the same with animals.

Speaker 3 (38:50):
Is that where most of your work resides with animals,
like do you see animals who are just so? You know,
in that diminished state that is that is that where
most people come to you.

Speaker 2 (39:03):
Most people that I might not understand it. So a
person will come to me.

Speaker 3 (39:10):
I'm assuming they didn't like and the vet can't help, right,
The vet doesn't.

Speaker 2 (39:14):
Not yet, not until the book's out.

Speaker 1 (39:19):
Right there, not till the book is out.

Speaker 2 (39:22):
It's awesome, But if that is interested, I'm happy to
tell them and talk to them about it. I think
the vetinary, the vetinary industry, and I think the animal
dynamics can do incredible work together.

Speaker 3 (39:37):
Well, my understanding with the vet industry is actually that
they have a really high level of depression. And I
think this is why, right, I think, like I see
seminars with you teaching vets and having this way out there.
I mean, it's gonna. It has a possibility to not
only help the animals, but to help the people who
care for.

Speaker 2 (39:55):
Animals if they're open to them, because first.

Speaker 3 (39:57):
Of all, they're so desperate, right, desperate some other of.

Speaker 2 (40:00):
It, yeah, sometimes, but the veterinarian community no punitent. Look,
I love vets, Okay, I'm not gonna, and I mean veterinarians, veterans.
So I love veterans, and I love veterinarians. So the
thing of it is is that but they're they're very

(40:23):
they're kind of like the Ama. Okay, fair enough, all right,
So they're a little boxed in and they're afraid to deviate.
Now they have they have really grown leaves and bounds. Okay,
there's a lot of veterinarians that are doing things like
aqua therapy, acupuncture, homeopathy, Chinese herbs, things like that.

Speaker 3 (40:45):
They're amazing, amazing.

Speaker 2 (40:47):
But animal communication, nine times out of ten, when you
bring it up with your vet, they are going to
give you a look kind of like well, kind of
like Homer's like that kind of look. Well, you know what,
I would say that interesting.

Speaker 3 (41:07):
One of my coaching clients who's thirty years working in
research and development at a very uh you know, fortune
fifty company, and I was talking to her and she
rides horses and she's like, the biggest stress in my
life right now is that something's wrong with my horse.
I don't know what it is. And I just asked her,
point blank, have you tried working with an animal communicator?
And she said, you know, I haven't done that in

(41:29):
a long time. I should probably get back to that.
And I was like, hell, yeah you should.

Speaker 2 (41:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (41:34):
I'm just saying people are more open to it, and
you know, because.

Speaker 1 (41:38):
Here they are well. And I think I think a
way that sometimes industry changes is when their clients push
them to change. Because if there's enough people who meet you,
read your book, understand this more, they will drive the
change because the industry won't have a choice.

Speaker 2 (41:58):
Right that. I think so too. I think that's the
way to go because if we rely on the vetinary industry,
we're going to be waiting for a long time. I
think the more people who speak up who say, no,
this is the benefit for my animals. So you can

(42:22):
think I'm a kuckaboo all you want to, But I'm
going to ask about this. I'm going to ask about that.
I'm going to say that my animal communicator got exactly
But I tell people, look, I am not a vet.
I was a VET tech, so I have that background. However,
I am an empathic sensor. So don't rely on me. Okay,

(42:46):
first take your animal to the vet. And then once
you take them to the vet and they get the results,
and if they can't find anything or you want me
to coincide with what the vet is saying, great, but
don't rely on me solely because I don't want that responsibility.

Speaker 3 (43:03):
Yeah, I think, I think you know I would do
it the other way. I'd go to you first and
then go into the event and go I have this information.
That's how I left.

Speaker 1 (43:11):
I would do the same thing. You know, by the way,
Coriel mets I understood that. But you know Coriel Metsuki
and nailed Zuki like this boom, like seconds. Yeah, I
knew exactly who Suki was. And also Siki was crawling
on me as well, because we'll know he's a sweet pumpkin.

Speaker 2 (43:32):
But the dynamics can now be when they are published. Okay,
it's going to happen. I promise when they are published,
they are going to make sense to everyone because you
can't dispute it. The techniques I've developed will show you

(43:54):
how to touch your animal specifically. So excited, right, that's
personality and so the reason that So let me use
my own animal as an example. Really quick. I have
a cat by the name of Sacred. She's amazing. Okay,
she's beautiful. She's amazing. She's an ngoor, she's black, she's

(44:15):
she helped me actually develop the sensory dynamics.

Speaker 3 (44:19):
She's a fancy cat. She is a fancy she's a
fancy cat.

Speaker 2 (44:23):
She got fancy pants. So what would happen was and
I'm an animal communicator, so this is before I developed
the dynamics. I would pick her up because of course
you want to pick up your animal, you know, and
hold her. I would pick her up and hold her always.
I want to use the wording, but that's probably not

(44:46):
the right wording. It would always be interesting. So I
would hold her really tight, and she would cry I
was killing her it.

Speaker 3 (44:57):
Was too tight.

Speaker 2 (44:58):
Yeah, no, it us a good, good, good tribe. But
this is what was going on. So I would hold
her tight tight, not really tight, I'm not gonna, but
enough to support her. And I was that got you,
You're okay. And she it would always go on and
I would let her down. She'd scratch me. It was
a shit chotus, my friend, sorry, everybody used to it.

(45:25):
So what happened was I developed the dynamics. One of
the personalities, the first personalities was the sensory, and I
understood that the sensory does not like to be rushed.
They don't. They like to move in their time. They
expect that everybody moves in their time. So what happened

(45:46):
was I was going over to sacred whenever I felt
like it, whenever I you know, I want, I want
to be held, I want to be cuddled, I want
to be supported, I want to be loved. And it
was in my time, it was in her time. So
now what I do is I picked her. I let
her know, and I ask her permission. I ask her,

(46:07):
you know, we have different signs, and now I pick
her up.

Speaker 3 (46:11):
No problem, you just gotta let her know.

Speaker 2 (46:14):
I gotta let her know. But I don't go over
Willie Nilly and just pick her up because it's going
to be awful. So the personalities, you can't dispute that.
There's nothing you could dismay. You can't say, well, maybe
I made it up because you pick her up again,
asking permission, and you pick her up nicely in her time,

(46:38):
and there's no problem. She doesn't scratch me nothing. You
can't dispute that. Your logical mind is like, aha, this
is that's my really bad Einstein.

Speaker 4 (46:51):
This is.

Speaker 2 (46:53):
Ill for me. Allow of that books. You know, I
actually sound like doctor Ruth I.

Speaker 1 (46:59):
Think, and it was totally doctor Ruth move.

Speaker 2 (47:03):
I loved it.

Speaker 3 (47:06):
That's awesome, a great story. Well, I know, I can't
wait for this book to come out. And it has
just been such a joy to speak with you and
get to know you. I've heard wonderful stories and I
can't wait to hear more and more and more when
the book comes out.

Speaker 1 (47:23):
I'm excited too, and I think, forell you know, do
you want to let everybody know how they can get
in touch with you if they.

Speaker 2 (47:30):
Yeah, So I make it pretty easy once you learn
how to spell my name, so everything is pretty much
under my name. My YouTube channel is under my name,
my first name, and my last name. Facebook, you can
find me under my first name my last name. You
can send me an email at mail at Coriolcreamer dot com.

(47:52):
My website is Coriolcramer dot com.

Speaker 3 (47:55):
So we will put all that in the Show's easy.
So Caryll just one more question. You know, knowing that
you've had such a rich background in working with people
and working as the healer, working with animals, working as
a healer, what's the work that you like the most
to do. What is it like most rewarding or the

(48:15):
least exhausting, even for you, I.

Speaker 2 (48:18):
Would say that more than likely it would be the Dynamics.
I love them. I think they are so easy, they
are so transformative. People have told me again and again,
and you can go to the website and read the testimonials.
Don't believe my word for it. Take there, don't take

(48:40):
my word for it, believe theirs. And this is changing
the way people's relationship, which is already awesome, it's making
it even more awesomer. I don't even think that's a word,
but I'm going with it anywhere.

Speaker 3 (48:54):
I like it.

Speaker 1 (48:55):
It's today.

Speaker 2 (48:56):
It takes it to another level, and I think That's
where I get the most rewarding because it's not me
doing it. Yes, I developed the dynamics, I developed the personalities,
I developed the touches, I developed the word, tone of
voice and all that. But I give that to you,
and you're the one putting it into play. So you're

(49:18):
actually the one who's bringing your animals personality in a
more healthier state. I'm not doing anything. It's all the
magics in you.

Speaker 3 (49:27):
Yeah, and you you showed us the magical way. So
thank you for being the perfect channel to bring to this,
this to the planet right now. It's just perfect.

Speaker 2 (49:36):
Thank you.

Speaker 3 (49:37):
Yeah, thank you, thank you, thank you, so thanks for
listening to everyone. And I just want to let you
know my else having a little bit of a technical glitch.
But are you back.

Speaker 1 (49:45):
I think so, kind of think kind of sort of yes,
maybe it's a little dicey, but yeah, little dicey okay.

Speaker 3 (49:54):
So thank you Carriel, and remember her school.

Speaker 1 (49:58):
Is hard without the Animal Kingdom, y'all. Thanks every side
and the other side, Thanks everybody, Thanks everybody.

Speaker 3 (50:13):
Thank you for joining us. Everyone, and a special thanks
to our producer Joey Patt and our executive producer Maya
Cole Howard, who guides us well, we guide you.

Speaker 1 (50:24):
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Speaker 3 (50:31):
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Speaker 1 (50:37):
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