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October 26, 2022 • 30 mins

During times of crisis, are you calm or do you panic? Proactive or reactive? Do you listen to your gut when it's telling you what to do... now?

The truth is, listening to your gut is the smartest move you can make. Today Brenda shares how following an instinct hours prior to an earthquake saved her life. Julie shares how evacuating during a wildfire kept her and Suzanne safe, and made the road to safety easier for others.

Checking in with your guidance and following through on your instincts is a way to build confidence, experience peace of mind, and honor the spiritual compass you were born with.

Earth School is hard, but often the answers are crystal clear. Today we invite you to share with us a time your instincts have kept you safe from harm.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to Insider's Guide to the Other Side, a production
of My Heart Radio. Hi y'all, I'm Julie. Hi there,
I'm Brenda. Welcome to Insider's Guide to the other Side.
Now you all need to know that we are obsessed
with everything on the other side. Yes we are, because

(00:21):
once you learn to navigate the energetic, or to some
the invisible world, life is going to be more fun
and much more serene. Heck, yes it can, because let's
be honest, brand earth school is hard. In fact, you
taught me that, let's crush Earth School together. Well, hello,

(00:44):
my wichi pooh, how are you? I am doing great,
my health, How are you? Um, I'm doing fabulous, Thank
you very much. How fabulous today? You know, I'm actually
um I You know, we're getting the groove of living
in our new space and getting used to altitude. And

(01:08):
that's very real. Yeah, zumbling, but it's real. It is
very real and very humbling. You're exactly right. We're seventy
ft elevation here. Remember we owned that because we've had
a place in Tahoe for a long time and it
was at so this is even you know, higher elevation,
and you know, just accommodating, you know, drinking a whole

(01:31):
load of water, getting reacquainted with lotion again. Um, it's
like we're dry, so um, but getting you know, when
I'm walking Suki all the time, I'm telling you, I
can feel it in my lungs. Yeah, for sure. Introduced
the concept of a bianca, you know, with coconut oil.

(01:52):
Amazing for this game was that it's a process where
you you dry brush long on the long on the
bone circles on the joints. Said, you can't see when
I'm I'm long on the bone circles on the joints, right,
And then you just put the coconut oil on for
like twenty minutes while you do other things, you know,
like every other things you will do, and then you

(02:15):
jump in the tower. Yeah, it's super right because this
is not what this episodes about, but it is now
kind of about. And I was kidding. And so you
because your your liver, right is cleansing your blood and
helping your body flop off skin cells. So when you
get up in the morning, you brush them all off,

(02:35):
so your your body is rejuvenating, right, and so you
help and so and it's like when you rake the
earth before you water, right, it helps the moisture go
into the earth. When you do the dry brush on
on the skin, it it removes the skin cells, but
it also you know, damages that the skin a little
bit to help it absorb the water or the moisture

(02:59):
from the oil. I prefer coconut oil or sunflower seed oil.
Those are the ones I like to use. But you'll
be so happy to know that one of our new
neighbors practices Arabatic and she actually does retreats and does
She's very woo woo. And I'm like, oh my god,
you're I love Brenda. So I keep Yeah, I will.

(03:20):
I'm younger, Yes, you'll get you set up. Oh that's fantastic. Okay,
So well, anyway that's been happening. Um, so body changing,
you know. But it'll take care of that. It'll take
care of the dryness because it is a pre dry climate. Yeah,
super dry. And again it's the I do. I'm exercising
a lot, mainly because I ate a lot of cookies
with frosting during the moon and uh, I need to

(03:48):
release and stressful right there. There are a lot of
there are a lot of worse ways you could have
been pretty comfort right, So, oh my god, for real, Like,
the worst I'm going to do is having you know,
pros and it's buttercream breasting for the record, everybody, Um,
but it makes it made me feel better, yes, so,
but that's the exercises to get my lungs. You know,

(04:09):
I'll be able to run a marathon when I come
back down to sea levels, for sure'll be a super woman.
I am not a runner. I am not built for that.
My short legs and white sea and high arches are
not meant for any of that. Ship built the carry things.
I am. I'm built to carry ship, not not to

(04:30):
run from it or toward it. My teacher lives in
Colorado and when she would come to Cincinnati to teach,
which is at sea level, right, she'd be like, they
are molecules are so close together here, I can't take it. Oh,
that's funny because it's too intense for me. Well, speaking
of air molecules. Weirdly, that's part of what our topic

(04:50):
is today. What I know, right, it's um, it's we're
calling it dancing with disaster. And but that's what world
doing as humans now on the planet is there's so
much activity that's going on. This is not a weather
channel podcast. This is not an emergency broadcasting system party podcast.

(05:12):
This actually show. This show our intention is to actually
inspire you all to listen to yourself, because I think
what we've all learned is the only one that will
not lie to use you. And when you're faced with
a situation in life or death, honestly with what these

(05:35):
folks and Fort Myers or Fort Myers and Fort Myers
or Fort Myer, I've never been there. Myers Myers and
Fort Myers. The nest Florida encountered was um, you know,
if if more would have evacuated, they would have probably
not have had the human destruction that occurred, I have

(05:57):
to say, right, I mean, I think the count as
of this recording is like a hundred people, I think so,
which is nothing compared to correct the level of damage
and the span that this monster storm covered. I mean,
really there, it's just there was no question about that,

(06:18):
and that and that's in their inner circle than it's rights.
But yeah, right then it's like the whole world just collapsed.
But we're also seeing earthquakes where fires, right, I mean,
fires have been going on. You know, things are happening
on the planet. There's no doubt there's global warming. We

(06:40):
all have to readjust we need to pay attention if
we live in an area that all the thing. I
don't know, maybe it lives only that it is not
susceptible to any of this. It's we all live in it.
You know. We just had north of Santa fe Is
Las Vegas, New Mexico, the first Las Vegas, and they

(07:01):
had such severe fires that all the sood got into
the water supply and they didn't have water. It has
since been yeah, I mean it's fixed. Right, So like
these are the things that we have to pay attention
to be prepared for, listen to ourselves all those things,
and I think we should take a quick break because

(07:21):
when we come back, I think we should share the
stories of how we've paid attention to ourselves and times
that we didn't really understand what was going to happen,
but we knew something was Okay. I want to do that. Great,
All right, everybody, we are back with our cliff hanger

(07:48):
on the cliff hangers hangars. No more cliff hangers. Um
that I only have this podcast to hear my own voice. UM.
I think one of the most wildest stories was actually
yours brand. Um, and this was long before we knew

(08:09):
each other, and it blows my mind. So do you
mind retelling and blowing everybody else's mind? Um? So this
is I've told the story before, but it obviously due
to my heart because I was in I lived in
Dallas at the time, and I was visiting my brother
over Memorial Day weekend, and who lived in l A.

(08:31):
And my brother was sick with AIDS, and so I
get I went to see him every chance I got,
and I decided what seemingly randomly, to come home to
return to Dallas a day early, which, even as I
was changing my five reservations, felt out of body to me.

(08:52):
It didn't make sense, but I was doing it anyhow.
I was living your heads, like, what did you feel?
Did you hear something? So something feels something? It was
It was just an instinct. So it didn't come in
through hearing, seeing or like you know, flashing airline ticket
in from my face or something like that. It was
just an instinct. I think, yeah, I'm going to go

(09:12):
back a day early. I think I just have to
get in for you know, some like my mind made
up some reason that to make it plausible, but it didn't.
It didn't make any sense to me. And then so
I went home a day early and I never, I
will never forget standing in line because I had to.
You know, it was back in the day of paper tickets,

(09:33):
and so while my reservation was changed, I had to
re ticket at the ticket counter and right, and there
was no there was no t s A, there was
no security, right. So so I am in line at
the at l A X and I feel the earth
rumbling as I'm standing in line, and you know how
you just kind of glanced randomly over your shoulder to

(09:54):
see the big truck that's driving by, right, And of
course there's no big truck driving by because has that
you know, that that rumbling that happens. And I was like, huh,
that's weird, you know. And of course the next morning
I wake up in Dallas and the earthquake had hit
in l A. And I had been sleeping in my
brother's couch and there was a giant mirror above the

(10:16):
couch that would have killed me if I had been
sleeping there because it came down it it was early
in the morning, it was like five o'clock in the
morning or something, and I would not have been up,
so it would not have been me. But anyhow so
that was that was one. But you know, I do
live in we do have tornadoes in in Cincinnati in

(10:40):
the spring and in the fall, you know, when all
those thunderstorms come through, and you know, sometimes my guys
will wake me up and be like, you got to
go to the basement. And sometimes I'll just check with
them when the sirens are going off, like do we
need to move now? You could? You know, but say
send prayers over here, you know, so you know, because
they're gonna it's gonna be it's gonna be rough over there,
so you know, like, but check in with your guidance.

(11:02):
Check in, um, is it West Cincinnati that they send
them to for those who know Cincinnati the east of
the west. I was just making geographic humor. It is geographic,
very local and very funny. Thank you for that. But
you know, just just check in and you know, start
working with your angels or your guidance to to you know,

(11:24):
how do I be safe. It's a really good practice
to be in. I have a question, So when you
heard rumbling, was it really the earthquake starting or was
that they were going I am. I am so clear
because I you know, Midwest girl, I wouldn't know what

(11:45):
an earthquake was. And it wasn't that I heard rumbling.
I heard it, but I felt it because I was
standing still, and that, you know, the ground was shaking.
That happens when a big truck drives by. Yeah, And
that's what I remembered, and it was. It was such
a subtle thing until the next morning, like when I
when I heard there was an earthquake, somehow that flashed

(12:07):
in my brain like, oh, that must have been like
a precursor tremor or something interesting. I had not heard
that part of your story. I just I focused on
the sofa and the big mirror part and how you
could be dead if you didn't if I didn't listen,
if you didn't act. Um, I'm against every instinct, against

(12:28):
all of it. Right, you're with your brother, he's sick.
Every minute counts kind of thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I
lived through an earthquake, well many actually not as big
as the one that you went through, but I've lived
through a lot of the smaller ones. And one time
I was driving, I was in the valley we lived

(12:48):
in the valley and I was driving on like I
don't know, I was close to Interest turning out of
inter Boulevard, and I felt my car, my car was
like I felt like a flat tie, like one or
two flat tires is what it felt like, because you
guys can't see her, but she's like rocking side. Oh yes,
I'm rocking side by side to side. Um. But it's

(13:10):
like I'm moving side to side as I'm driving, and
I'm thinking, you know, moving cars now with you know,
the alert if you have a tire that's low or whatever,
no alerts, I'm going. I mean, I felt like I
was kind of my car was driving on butter, going
back and forth. I don't know, I just said butter,
that's weird. Um. But it felt like it was kind of,

(13:30):
you know, sliding back and forth on But was it
better cream frosting? That's well, that's a better question. Maybe
it was because you know how I feel about nuts
very far in the land of jam, So why wouldn't
I believe in butter cream frosting on the roads. But
it was a really scary thing because you don't know
if the Earth's going to open up and stuck your
ass in there, yep. I mean I've watched those movies

(13:53):
Librea or TV series Librea. I mean like you could
stuck your ship up and send you back into time
thousands of years. I don't know what that is, but
I bet somebody out there listening does. I met my
niece Sue cop Sue knows exactly what I'm talking about.
I'm talking to you, Sue, but it's a very scary thing,
and I had no idea there was, you know, But

(14:13):
I'm just expressing the whole like or thing is like
whoa because you've got no You're like nothing, You're a
tick on a NAT's ass. I mean, is your tiny, tiny, tiny,
tiny tiny And when it comes to something like the
big these big disasters that happened, Um, so why don't
we take another quick break and I'm going to talk

(14:35):
a little bit but what happened to us in l
A and how we listened or I listened to myself
and the maid Susan follow you won't be right back
and welcome back to my bossy alf What did you

(14:59):
did you? Okay, your elf is definitely bossy, but your
elf has a very strong sense of safety. I always have.
It's why I'm a really good driver, because I am.
It's like it's a safety thing. I don't know where
the hell that came from in my life. I'm sure
it's past life bullshit somewhere. Sure I did something stupid
and another life and I learned or something happened. But

(15:20):
you know, I don't know what I did. Maybe I
maybe I went and hugged an electrical line or something.
I have no idea, but I have a very very
very strong sense of safety. And UM, you know, most
of the time we lived in califact, but half the
time we lived in California was spent in UM. It's
like every season was fire season, and whether it was
happening up in northern California or we were getting them

(15:42):
in southern California. And there was I don't remember which
fire it was. I remember having whatever it was right
and we were in They they distinguished neighborhoods by evacuate
now or you have like a might want to consider
evacuating kind of scenarios. And we lived really close to

(16:05):
the Getty Center, and there were fires across the street
from the Getty Center. UM, and just everybody knows. Interestingly enough,
the Getty Center has a whole fireproof thing for the
art and water. I mean, it's like they're protecting these
works of art. And actually, when my old bosses lived
across the highway from us, Tom Rothman did and I

(16:27):
texted Tom because he was in the evacuate area and
we were in the you should think about evacuating area,
and I said, Tom, it's Julie. Do you need me
to come over and get you or any of your stuff?
Because you know, I'm a lesbian with a jeep that
has Kevilar tires. These are the messages I do not
mess around. No, not messing around. I got Kevlar tires.

(16:49):
Here we go, but in that fire. So we're in
this in this zone and I'm sitting there and I'm going,
you know, I think we need to go. And it's
a pain. They asked, by the way, because we have
pets and stuff and things, and um, you have to choose,
by the way, like what's important to you to that
can fit in your car obviously living things number one?

(17:10):
Very fast. Um, And I'll tell you what I learned
in a second, the hindsight of what I could have done.
But we'll get to that in a second. And so
I looked at Susanne. I go, I think we need
to go, and she goes what I go, I think
we need to go. I'm not saying that we need
to go because I see our house burning down. I
think we need to go. So we're not in the
way for all of the first responders that we are

(17:34):
not like we need to get out of their hair,
like we're not trouble. Because that's the other thing I
think when you think about actually evacuating a situation is
get out of the damn way because something is happening,
so get out and move away. Everybody doesn't need your
damn presence. And I think that's what I was thinking
about more than anything. I think the nervous part I
had was those embers could travel, and you have one

(17:56):
of those embers travel and they hit your roof and
it's on right. That's that's all it takes. And the
other thing is the evacuation. Evacuation process is not clean
and orderly and easy, like it gets clogged up very quickly,
especially in Florida. I don't know about l A, but

(18:17):
anyhow so I can't imagine it does I mean, it's
like because we were there for a number of different fires,
and we'll listen on a good day, it's clogged right
when there's bigation exactly. So I just said we need
to go, and she's like, where are we going to go?
And I'm like, we're gonna go to Andy's house because

(18:37):
we can take the dogs, and she was in San Diego.
So we packed things up and I'm just going to
tell y'all, I can tell you exactly what's important to me.
My dogs, my new Mite skulls, Crystal skulls, my Vnick
T shirts. There you go, my panties without holes in them.
You have those? Okay, excellent, shocking, I know. I just

(19:00):
we went away yesterday at Headholes and UM, I used
the handles until they did they're useless. So uh And
for some reason I had I had a half a
bag of cookies I thought that I needed, so you did,
and I took them with me. I'm clearly a cookie
eater under distress, and UM, I think we just found

(19:21):
a pattern and and that's what I took, like in
mic course my laptop, but whatever that goes with me
everywhere anyway. But it's like those were the things that
were important to me, and that's what I packed up,
and I had to unpack when we get to Andy's
to put in her garage. Had to do all that bullshit.
So we had all the so everything living and think
with a heartbeat, and then the things I want to
have a heartbeat, which are like my crystal skulls went

(19:43):
with me and you find out what's important to you.
I also found out after the fact that it was
could have been an idea. I could have put all
the crystals in the swimming pool. So if you're in
l A, you're either either have one or you're near one.
Put your valuable stuff in the pool that you know,
like rocks, like rocks, like rocks not cooking, No they

(20:09):
are not. I mean I had plans that if we
somebody got caught in one and we can protect ourselves
in the pool, like I just these are the scenarios
that go through my head. Um And even though nothing
happened to our house, even on our street, they were close, right,
but nothing that was really there. I'm glad we got
a piece of mind, because that's the other thing that

(20:29):
paying a chance and does is you give yourself a
piece of mind, because what matters most is what's alive,
that's what matters most. The house does not matter, The
ship inside does not matter. What matters is those living right.
So in this case it's Suzanne, we had cats, dogs,
I mean, we had like a we had to pack up,

(20:55):
but that's what's important. So we get to Andy's in like, okay,
now we can actually and we watched the news who
wanted to see if our ship was burning. But it's
like we weren't sitting there in the middle of the zone. Right,
It's a totally different aun alert status watching from a distance,
knowing everything you care about is safe exactly right, and
you're worried about your your neighbors and your friends and

(21:17):
things like that. But that's different than by being in
it and being worried about it. And especially with fire,
it moves like that, I mean, it can change directions
just like that in an embrance, by the way one.
That's all it takes. That's all it takes, and all
of a sudden learn a different game. Yeah, it's very true.
So you chose, So I did. I chose. I chose

(21:40):
to get the hell out of the way, because that's
also part of the the decision, right, I need get
the hell out of the way, Like if something happens here,
the last thing these first responders need is to go
rescue the lesbians with the petting zoo. We already did that.
You please save the structure if you can't, but if
you can't, it is what it is, right, everybody be safe.

(22:03):
So I just you know, as I feel horrible for
anybody that has to deal with any of these types
of natural disasters. It seems to be a part of
our future. Overwhelming, It is overwhelming. It is very much overwhelming.
But I like the idea of thinking about who do
I want to be in this crisis moment? Do I

(22:25):
want to be someone who's thinking ahead? Do I want
to be someone who's out of the way. Do I
want to be contributing? You know, to do I want
to live in the in the drama wait till the
very end? Right? Like like who do I want to be?
How much energy do I have to spend? You know?
Like can I keep watching the seven to see if
if they call my area or not? Just like I mean,

(22:47):
it's it's a lot of energy either way, right if
you're in the path and even have the luxury if like,
if you have a tornado, you don't even have that luxury. Right, No,
you don't, Yeah, that is that is a whole different ballgame,
exactly right, because of course grow up in Oklahoma and
we dealt with that, and in our neighborhood, every other
house had was built with a basement, I mean with
actually with a tornado shelter specifically you could enter from

(23:09):
the outside. So I totally understand that. And I think
that what you were saying is obviously important. It's even
more important if you think about some of what we've
heard so far about how officials were not alerting Fort
Myers that it was headed their way. They thought it
was going to be hitting a little bit north, like
more towards Tampa. And and I'm just and this is

(23:30):
why it's so important to listen to yourself. Everybody, seriously,
if you if they if you live in an area
and somebody's not telling you to evacuate and your gut
is telling you to evacuate, evacuate, they do their best
they can. Right. People are people, Right, but a lot

(23:51):
of people have lived through a lot of storms and
seeing things like you know, when they shift or where
they move and how fast they can move, and like, okay,
so it's heading towards Tampa. But you're in For Myers.
You know, you're not that far away, like you know, like, okay,
we're in range. This is a possibility. And again it
depends on your dwelling, It depends on where you are,
are close to the shore you are, like, it depends

(24:12):
on all that. But make those you know, make those
best guests for your tolerance of risk, and you know,
do the best you can. And of course there's always
that there are people that can't move. You know, we're sick.
And this is not enough judging other people, but it's

(24:34):
really inviting you to to trust your instincts, like whether
it's nope, I'm safe or it's like nope, I gotta go.
I'm just really trust those instincts. With our friend group
in l A, we all got together and made plans.
We all had emergency plans about where would go to

(24:55):
meet up, where we meet up, all of that, like
we because you have to. That's the world we live
in now, Like it is worth having conversations with friends
and family to figure out a plan. So if you're
somebody you know a month ago lives in Fort Myers,
your plan would be with somebody who lives in maybe
it's Miami or Savannah, Georgia or wherever it is, to

(25:16):
get out of the way Tallahassee. And it's like you
can look at me in my geography and crushing it. Right.
Come on, um that you make plans and um, so
when the time comes, you know there is one right
and you can act upon it and not have to
think about it. You can't count on communication, you can

(25:38):
and you cannot count on communication. And again I listen,
I don't want I'm not bashing anybody's government, local, state, federal,
any of that kind of stuff. But you know they
was talking about other people were not warned in time
kind of thing. But it's like, you know what, we
sometimes have to take responsibility for our own damn selves
and if we feel like this might be close, then
get the hell out, especially if it's saying it's going

(25:59):
to be a cat four I mean two miles prior
away from a cat five mm. And I don't and
I'm talking about kitty cats. I'm talking about hurricane categories
and maybe kitty cats later. But um, super intense. It's
super intense. So I think, like, again, I just wanted

(26:19):
to have this conversation that we've experienced this ourselves. We've
had to listen to ourselves. We're both still here as
far as we know. I don't think that your ghost, Brenda,
I'm a hologram. You know, if I were a ghost
would be way more crazy than normally is. I'd be
like knocking shit around, knocking your bases, over all that

(26:42):
kind of stuff, creating just all the caps I could.
But we just think that it's it is, um it is.
There was the right time to just kind of share
this information and against Yeah, it's just been a reinder
to us and so all the things we're always talking about,
which is trust your instincts, cultivate that that you're relationship
with your instincts. Play games with your instincts, like oh

(27:03):
did I get that right? Think about the smallest thing
so you can calibrate your feedback. How tuned am I? Oh?
You know, sometimes I second guess myself, but I was
actually right the first time, Like pay like build this
muscle before you need it in of course, always a
plug for meditation, ye, And I'm just going to say, yeah, always, always,

(27:24):
I always check my pendulums. All the good things, right,
use all all your gifts and it matters. You know.
They always talk about yoga off the mat. This is
like using your instincts, you know, off your meditation cushion,
Like use your instincts in real life because that's that's
when it's game on and have a strong sense of
you know, protection like your elf safety first. Say, I

(27:49):
know it's so weird. I really don't know where that
ship came from. It is so but I've been that
way of my whole life. Well I haven't been that
way in my whole life, but when you live or
surrounded by fires, you be safety first, right, like it's
it's a thing. It is a thing. Yeah. Um So anyway,
we um just want to share and as always you

(28:10):
are welcome to take it in or discard what we say.
Just share stories with us. Yeah the drops a DM,
let just hear you. Let us hear your stories of
how you use safety first and listening during your dance
with disasters. Stop dropping roll, people stopped dropping roll. I

(28:32):
did learn that. And J high or was great school.
I think it was. I don't again, as Oklahoma could
have been high school. It could have been what was
required to graduate. I'm not positive. I kid you, Oklahoma,
I still love you. I remember our school is hard
without a strong sense of protection. And the other side,

(28:56):
and the other side and the other side. Thanks everybody,
Thanks y'all, Thanks my el back at you which boot back,
Thank you for joining us, everyone, and a special thanks
to our producer Joey pat and our executive producer Maya

(29:17):
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