August 10, 2022 • 31 mins
Have you ever wondered if a person knows when they are going to jump the planet? What crystals can soothe the earth-bound soul through their trauma or grief when someone they love has passed? What is the life review process like once a spirit is on the other side?
(And, on a completely different note... for the love of all things caffeinated, why is coffee considered a low-vibe beverage?)
Dealing with the loss of someone you love deeply is always difficult. Today's episode springs from several questions submitted by our listener Sue (or Chop-Suey for those who know..) Sue shared her questions about death with us after her mother's recent passing. Moments like these are a delicate time, asking us to remember and honor the many contrasts of life: We cannot have joy without grief, just like we cannot get lost in laughter without first shedding a few tears. There is value to our grieving process if we embrace it and love ourselves through the process. For here on Earth School, the price we pay for beautiful love, is grieving those who've moved on to the Other Side.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to Insider's Guide to the Other Side, a production
of My Heart Radio. Hi y'all, I'm Julie. Hi there,
I'm Brenda. Welcome to Insider's Guide to the other Side.
Now you all need to know that we are obsessed
with everything on the other side. Yes we are, because
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once you learn to navigate the energetic, or to some
the invisible world, life is going to be more fun
and much more serene. Heck, yes it can, because, let's
be honest, brand earth School is hard. In fact, you
taught me that let's crush Earth School together. Well, hello,
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my witchy pooh, I know somebody that has a lot
of questions for you and it's not me. Oh my
good okay, okay, my outh. Nice nice opening. Wow, just
thrown it down. Okay, God, you have a little rhyming,
(01:05):
Like who hates a rhyme? I think the answer should
be no one. And if you do, our listeners will
let us know. Yeah, they'll let us so. Actually, Julie,
I hate Ryn. In fact, I hate the intro to
your show so much so today so today you know,
I think her biggest fan is Sue Sue the cop
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cop Suee, my my niece, by marriage who was a
year younger than me, which is very funny. It is Arkansas, Texas,
that makes sense. So Sue is We've talked a lot
about Sue and about her journey and her tath and
her everything. She's been very generous with love giving us
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permission to do that. Yes, she has um and and
shows she likes to ask. She has a lot of
questions and she's such a powerful mind. Oh I know, right,
I know, And she's going to hear this and she's
gonna get a big head and I'm gonna have to
hear about it. She's like Granda said, I have we
in mind. Thanks thanks for that one. But she she does,
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She totally does. I love Sue dearly. And Sue is
so deep like not like not bathtub swimming pool like
I'm talking to ocean depths Like she's so deep and
she literally swims around in it for a while. You
know that. Yeah, oh yeah she does. And so she
just her mom just jumped and Sue has a lot
of questions and which I love that. I love that
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she's in it. She's in the grief, she's in the processing,
and you know where does she turn? Yeah, she turns
to UH Insider's Guide to the other Side. There you go.
That's what we're here for. That's right, that's right. I
would do my best, suit, I would do my best.
Um can I start out though, with the lightest, funniest
question and then we'll get into the depth because this
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one's hilarious and and this is going to be a
new nickname for your co host when I read this.
So this is actually Sue's last question on this, which
is I still want to know why coffee has a
low VA. I may I may not hyper Oh, she goes,
I may be hyper focused on coffee. Don't judge me,
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uncle Elf, because she tells me Aunt Susanne and Uncle elfe. Alright,
so what would you say to her, Uncle Elf? Well,
I don't drink coffee, so I don't even know how
that works. Did you ever drink coffee? No, I've never
had a I've had a drink like a sip. No, yeah,
neither of my life. I know. I feel like we're
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hypocritically even weighing in here, because yeah, so this is
what I'd say if you a dore coffee and it's
like just you know, it completes an energy circuit. In
your body when you drink it. That isn't an addiction,
right then your body probably doesn't have problems with it.
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But the truth of the matter is, for many people,
particularly the way coffee is processed, it's a lower vibration
and it jacks up the nervous system in a way
that isn't just keeping you awake, it's keeping you on edge.
And you know, we have enough of that in the
world straight up. We don't need to like chemically enhance
that ability. So that's why I'd say, if you, you know,
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you can keep it to a cup of day and
notice it doesn't disturb your sleep, doesn't put you on edge.
It's just more of a sacred ritual for you. And
you're getting your coffee processed in in a more organic
way than some of the chemicals they're using in commercial coffee.
Then have at it with my blessing and you know,
god speed. I don't know, I don't have to tell you.
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I mean, because there are bodies like that. I had
landed in London to study, and it was around my
birthday when this this I was studying abroad and some
ester that I was studying, and and so for my
birthday they took me to some fancy place and the
big treat was they gave me a cappuccino that was
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like like some that was like the treat and I
was like, you do people hate me? This is awful,
Like I spit it out and it was awful. That
that was well. I have my one experience with coffee
did not go well. And I have a bitter thing,
so I don't like bitter. That's why I'm not a
big fan of kale. If you dipped it in sugar
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and baked it and I like it and make it
like a sugary kale chip, but it's it's a it's
a bitter thing. And I found that out from three
and me. My mother didn't drink coffee either, and I'm
wondering if that was a trait that was handed down
through biology. I'm just drink coffee today, but back in
the day, she drank a pot of coffee a day
and she drink it throughout the day. That's always slept
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like a champ. I will say that handy, yeah, dark problem.
There are people. There are people where chemicals can act
like can reverse themselves, like how they operate in somebody's body,
said who knows. Um. Okay, Sue, there's your answer said
one and done. Okay, one and done on that. So
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do we need to take a break before our next question?
It's a fairly short one. I think it may not be,
but anyway, we'll sort that out. But I'm kind of
jumping around in the order that I want to go
through the question. So I am this happens when your
uncle Julie her uncle l find mean, her wife Natalie
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actually was calling me uncle Julie. Has been doing that
for about twenty five years. She was little. She was
like a teenager calling me uncle Julie. And that's cute. Yeah, Okay,
so Sue, here's the s second question. Can a person
know when they will jump? Question? Mark, My mom told
Natalie and me in April that she didn't think she
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would make it through the year. This is not unusual.
It's not unusual at all. And my impression, and you know,
talking to them after they've jumped, is that they sometimes
they they are embarrassed to say they dreamt it, or
they were embarrassed to say how when they're here on
the planet, you know, in in embodied they're embarrassed to
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tell people like, oh, I had a vision, or I
had a dream, or someone came and visited me and
told me they're They're embarrassed to say that, but they
oftentimes will have some sort of knowing or premonition of
generally like within like a two or three month window
of you know, when they're when they're time to exit?
Is um, So that's that's not unusual? Yeah, I I so.
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So the answer was, yes, I think it's interesting. And
I don't know if you've come across this because I'm
like a medium light. I'm like a medium small like me, right,
the only thing I'm a medium small, So I'm gonna
own that, right. I mean, you're like, you know, I'm
like a cell phone, you're a cell tower. It's all good.
I love it, I love you. I can accept all
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of this. I'm just happy to be in the whole
cellular club, you know. So when I've earned my my
right my rightful place in the cellular club. But any
time when you know I have spoken to someone's loved one,
you know how this goes, and they will people will ask, like,
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you know, well, when is my time? When am I
going to go like all these or when is so
and so going to go like somebody else on the planet.
They refuse, refuse to give me anything. And so I
asked one time, because it was night, it was you know,
I was the full card. It was Vante had no idea.
And when I get asked that, I'm like, guys, are
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they're not going to tell me? Because I don't think
you're supposed to know? Is my guess. So I just
don't ask. So does It's okay? Wherever you go, you go,
you'll be back. You'll be back. What's the worse that
can happen? What do you afraid of? What's over? What
are you afraid of? What if I dot, you'll be back,
You'll be conversation over real conversation. So this is what
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I'd say, for the most part, when you ask that question,
it is not honored or even entertained. Just kind of giggle.
They just gogle. Giggle yourself as humans are so funny
sort of thing. You're so adorable. And I will say,
you know, I've heard all kinds of stories about you know,
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seeks and readers and very wise people in different on
different continents that actually have access to those records. Some
are like they you know, reading the akashak records, because
that's where it would be. Some are literally physical records,
like they keep physical records that tell them something. I
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don't know what it is, but you know, the people
that I've talked to that have had these earthly experiences
were like, yeah, they pulled out volumes and the check
different charts. Yeah, and so I will say, there is
that information that can be available. But it is so
interesting because you know, you can't test the information. There's
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no beta set and alpha set, like you know, it's
just because you can't. You don't know if having this
piece of information actually creates it, right, right, I was
wondering that. I was like, as you're telling me, I'm like,
were they just what you ask for? Kind of thing?
Is what you focus on, right, is how is how
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we create? It's how we manifest. So like that what
you focus on, you know, where your attention goes, energy flows, right,
so you're feeling it. So there is this element that says, yeah,
that's probably why we don't give it to you totally.
I also don't want it. I don't want that. I
like that is a lot. I just like I just
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I don't want that responsibility. I don't want that we
get heavy enough stuff that it's said through us that
it's like I don't need to be like that's a
heavy load. Anybody, you know, for clients or family or
friends or you know, people that I am requested to
actually help someone in the passing process. And when I
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volunteered in hospice, when I'm working with with somebody in
that process, I can usually tell it'll be three days,
it will be two weeks, sort of like that's that's
a totally different situation. Yes, okay, I just have to
tell everybody. I just took my hair at a ponytail
and I looked like cousin and I just scared Brenda
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and I kind of scared myself. Okay what I expected.
That was really disruptive, really looked up. It was my
head was kind of like the headache, headache. I hate
that yet, but that going to take it. Oh yeah,
totally taking a break on that. And we are back
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with another series episode and apparently just everybody knows they
went a visual that I look like the guy from
back to the feature, the Crazy Scientists, you know, the
flex capacitor. Just everybody has a visual right now, how
incredibly attractive by Harris. But it's clean. It's clean. Oh,
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it's totally clean. Yeah, no bugs, no nothing. Okay, So
question here. Third question from Sue. What crystals help with
the grieving process and what are the best ways to
use them. My brother and his wife did CPR on
my mom when she jumped. Is there something more specific
to helping through the process of grieving due to the trauma?
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That's serious trauma. Okay, I'm so sorry. It was so intense.
H The thing is, you know, this is where your
people do so to it's such a disservice. I have
to say. You know, Hollywood's like people gay people, why
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did you become homophone? Just pick that up? This around
the corner? What the hell? Now that was people? No Hollywood,
where like we just have this is what death should be.
And you know, like gasping words and you know, lights
fade and you know, out closing. But death is it's active,
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it is it takes a lot of energy to organize
to leave. It's emotional, it's stressful, it's come and go,
and it's you know, it's sometimes hide and seek more
than anything. Like, it's really hard. So I want that
stays straight up. And so when you you know, you
tell me there's was CPR, and you know it didn't work,
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and even that can be very physical and very traumatic
for both the people providing and the one receiving. Right,
It's it's just really intense. Yeah. You know. Even my
brother when he was passing, they were aspirating him to
try and help him breathe, and he's biting on this
thing they put in his mouth and I'm like, stop it.
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I'm literally ten states away. I'm like, stop it. He
doesn't want that. It's you guys have to stop the
recovery and help him leave. How do we do that?
And like start singing to him, start singing to him,
like it's like that's how you help, right, you love him,
and that's how he's going to leave. And in coming
back to twoe minutes later, it's gone, but it but
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it was he was biting at It's like just so
uncomfortable and not that that would be a comfortable even
if you weren't on your exit planet. I mean, aspiration
is never comfortable. But um right, right, the music is
so helpful, rightful for and a little bit of bear
Man I was gonna say, had to be bear manelow
in there, come on if I know, Margaret, come on, yeah,
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let me come on. So excellent. And that doesn't mean
that their efforts were were violent or on welcome like that.
I'm not saying that at all, but I just again,
your Hollywood people, they well they have tainted. It's a
tainted perspective. So let me so I just want to
work with that. I haven't done the same things with relationships, ye,
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falling in love and that. Yeah, they totally Prince and
Princess called you I love you. Yeah, but here are there. Um.
So I have a recommendation something that I think works
incredibly well. And listen, everybody's different. So that's the other thing.
But when it comes to this grief, I'm gonna call
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it deep grieving Sugo light m hm. Nice is amazing
and we still in in you know, we we built
the hug pouch, but it wasn't called a hug pouch
at first. I think we called it like it was
a grieving pouch or something. I think that's what we
first called it. But it is this, the core of
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that is actually Sugo light. It is incredibly rare stone.
It's a purple, different shades of purple, it really is.
And I remember working with it when I started to
you know, understand, stones get into stones, and I had
a big chunk of sugo light and I would hold
it in my hand and I would have like the
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water works would just start. It's very healing. It is
very healing. So I'm a huge fan of that for
at least processing grief and supporting in that way. Totally
support that. I will say, when you were reading it,
I heard malachite, and not that malkaite isn't a healing stone,
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but I think that's very specific for her brother. So
that's what so I just wanted to give. Yeah. Uh,
and this is I'm talking to Sue right now. So
I have a lovely chunk that I'll send you. Okay,
it's it's I mean, it's clearly a hard stone, right,
it's it's green. But there's a lot of other things
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I would I would use that for um in addition
to grieving, but specifically I heard alokite for him. Okay,
well there's your answer on that one. But any hardstone,
right is so rose quarts of right, and then across
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side it, you can do all of those and may
anything yes, and may anything, yes, um, yeah, okay, so
just because it's a really high vibe. So that's why
they may blow anything. It's a really high vibim and
that's what we need when we're grieving. We need something
we do that's a higher frequency, you know, that that
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we can still access. And that's what me U is.
So it's beautiful, isn't it. It's so great I have.
It's such a high frequency. I don't have words for it.
That which is weird for you. I know, I have
so many. I have a friend that he is starting
to buy up all of our malas right now because
he's giving them out as gifts. Like he's like this guy.
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He goes, you know, there was this book. I oh,
I think he many lives, Many Masters. He goes, I
think I bought thirty copies and he gave them away
because and I just feel like these I just want
people to have this love and this support. Um okay,
next question, isn't that nice? He's a sweetheart of a guy.
People like that are on the planet right right, me too? Okay.
So Sue also asks when a person is going through
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the review, the life review after they jump, do you
think it's like a biblical judgment day where they get shamed,
or more like, hey, remember when this happened, you handled
that well, or you could have handled it differently. And
here are some suggests. Oh I like the biblical part.
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I mean it's like there's whips and change. That is
not what I thought she was going. Just caught me
off guard. Oh my god, Oh my god, Oh my god.
So the how to give a review section will come
next week, but so please student. So what's important to
remember as I understand the life review process is it's
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not like you are not without support in quote unquote
the room right. You have your guides, you have you know,
the head spirit that's you know, welcoming you in part
in charge of this process. But as you're going through
the review, you are in charge of deciding did I
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handle that well? Was that according to the plan that
I came in with? Where did I betray myself? Where
did I forget myself? None of those things are autobiographical
at all, but I'm just suggesting. I mean, I told
the story was a very brief story, and we've been
doing this for years now. But my friend in l
A who said, you know, I had a near death
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experience I had a guy him up the side hair
with a gun, but I lived in blah blah blah
blah blah. And that's when he said, He's like, yeah,
but I had this like whole image in this feeling
about how mean I had been to Valet, right the
Valet guy, and he goes in it just you know,
I felt how badly I made them feel. And that's
it what it is. As you're going through the life review,
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you are not only focused on your behaviors and engagements,
but you feel everything you ever made anyone else feel,
every time you uplifted someone and every time you took
someone down. And that personally is one of my greatest
motivations for the path I walk and try and create
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every day. It's just it's just that simple. It's comma right,
and and it is you know, it was a rough
couple of decades when I landed, but I figured, you know,
I got that inspiration and gave for me. But so
it's not according to a standard. As much as this
is what I agreed to do, was I able to
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accomplish it? And where did I veer off course? And
how was that valuable? Or how could I you know,
have made different choices or what would I understand and
how is this when I come out of Well, actually,
how I come out of this and how I understand
it will create my next incarnations, you know path that
I'm going to create my new contract. I just had
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that conversation on Saturday with a friend of mine who
has been in a terrible marriage for terribly long time,
and I just said, honey, because I'm not gonna s
name my honey, I go. Here's like, it's it's about
getting a plan moving out of this so you don't
have to do it again. You don't want to do
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this again, right? And I think that when you said
that's how you walk your path. Every day I think
about the life review. I think about I've loved my life,
but I want to do one next time. I don't
need to replay, you know. You know it's usually when
you yeah, you don't want to repeat courses in over
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school unless you have to know you because odds are
you're not going to get the greatest hits. You're gonna
get the you know, the greatest falls. And it's like,
I don't think I want to do that, but again
it's up to us, Like you said, and I think
it was a really great question. Yeah, and I like
the I like the biblical judgment. I mean it's like
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your post apocalyptic the rain is acid all that, you know.
That's kind of what I had in my head. Of course,
Hollywood is in my head. They are definitely my people. Um, okay,
so I'm gonna do one quick, funny one and then
we'll take a quick break and then Will will hit
the home stretch here. Um because this is just hilarious.
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And is there a contractual review? Because I feel like
there have been some legitimate contract violations concerning how cold
it gets in Texas during the winter. I was born
in Texas, and I feel like there had to have
had been an agreement that I get to live in
warm weather. There's no reason. I don't think there's a
response to that. But I mean, you're welcome to everyone.
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I just thought it was hilarious because I think it's funny.
Is now full stuff we are compleating? That's awesome. Isn't
that a great question? You can find think it was
a question. I can see you can file that complaint
when you land on the other side. Right, it's like
a decade secades review contractual review. It's like, I need
to look at my contract again because I think you
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side messed out or the row. Can you fix this? Please?
Are there spiritual attorney. It's the core to argue some
of these finer points in our contract. Oh my god. Yeah,
you gotta love that she's thinking. She is totally she's
totally thinking, and she's working her ankle. I like it.
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Don't wait to plan ahead, it's really smart. Okay, with that,
we'll take another quick breath. Right back, all right, and
welcome back episode to well or four. Remember we're on
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UH and I want other people to compete spot, So
come on, folks, bring it on. You have a couple
of contenders. I will say that, yeah, we totally do. So.
This I thought was the most serious question that I
want to save to the end. And it says, how
do I get to work in the ELF mail room?
I have experience in security too? Is there a resume
(24:54):
builder to be an ELF A gal? Has to start somewhere?
I love you, thanks for taking my question. Oh my god,
But I just thought we could like maybe close a
bit and just have a few words on grief because
we've laughed a lot through this, which is I think
kind of what the plan is right for brief right,
it's it's the most healing thing we can certainly do
in those moments. But just to get some final thoughts, well,
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first of all, giggling is really helpful for almost everything,
and particularly for grief, just those little breaks in the
frequency in the nervous system. And the truth is sadness
and in laughter our neighbors right there, like they're very
close in the in the frequency continuum, and so it's
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not a known that a lot laughter breaks out of funerals. Well,
and you know, if anybody saw, and I hated bring
the Hollywood into it, but I thought it was in
the most brilliant movies was inside Out about sadness and joy, right,
and they are very closely related. Actually, one of my
one of my favorite movies is This Is Where I
Leave You, right, which is it's about the family comes
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home to to grief because the father died and the
adult children come home and it's hysterical anyhow so, um
so I think, so it's not unrelated. And I feel
like when we understand the value of grief and we
can know how it serves us, we can embrace it
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and not have to resist it or fight it because
it's so intense. People feel like it's going to swallow them.
But if it only will continue and consume you wholly
when you resist it, if look, it takes. Remember the
best analogy that someone told me when I was in
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deep grief is, look, it is a mile wide and
ten miles deep. And the beginning, that's what it feels like.
It's not, but that's what it feels like. And over
time it becomes an inch wide, and it's still a
couple of miles deep, but it's an inch wide. So
like it doesn't stay huge when you surrender your heart
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to it and you create sacred ritual and you get
support and you have guides that serve you and on
the earth plane right, Um, And you know I've said
this a thousand times. Mediumship is not a substitute for grieving. Like,
so when you know someone will text me, you know, hey,
my neighbor's husband died, you know, can you see her? Yeah?
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Absolutely not today, not in the next ninety days, No way.
You know, it doesn't It doesn't help, um, because you
I think embracing grief, right, and that's what riches can help.
I think it can certainly help. And I do think
this is the funny thing happened last night as we
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were sitting here talking about I can't believe I didn't
even think about this until now, but I took my
friend Cindy, her mom to the casino. She loves it
in the early eighties and she loves casino. But we
spent most of our time sitting in the little food
court area. Um sitting there, had late lunch talking, and
we talked for at least an hour about Alzheimer's because
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she lost her husband to Alzheimer's, and of course I
lost my mom to Alzheimer's, and and it's been six
years for her, eleven and a half for me, and
it was so incredibly healing for both of us. Right,
But it's like, it's okay, if you find the right
people to talk to about you can still move through things,
because you're going to be constantly moving through grief your
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entire life in one way or the other. And remember
it is our badge for loving, Yes, it is, indeed, right,
there's the price we pay for loving, is grieving. You
can every time I'd paid over and over and over
it is because it's so extraordinary. I love so deeply
and you can't separate them. You can't love with without grieving.
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That's right. So it's it's embraced the grief. It will
love you back like it will serve you. It will
heal you when you surrender, if you will learn so
much about yourself if you allow it. And trust me,
I am a perfect person to say that because that's
exactly what happened. So I I like I am. I'm
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one of the most empathetic sympathetic person to grieving because
I know how magnificent you can come out of it,
especially if you have a witchy poop by your side.
Thank you, yes, and so thank you Copsui for your
fabulous questions and comments. We enjoy them very much. The
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elf male room, I love somebody who can be sad
and still really funny because that it, to me is
one of the greatest gifts ever and it's it's just
the sacred threshold, right, So without a doubt it sure is.
So thanks for listening, everybody, and thank you everybody, and
thank you so sorry didn't get my thank you into
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to my my niece. And yes, remember our school is
hard without the other side. And cup Sue. Thanks everybody,
Thank you for joining us. Everyone, and a special thanks
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once you learn to navigate the energetic, or to some
the invisible world, life is going to be more fun
and much more serene. Heck, yes it can, because, let's
be honest, brand earth School is hard. In fact, you
taught me that let's crush Earth School together. Well, hello,
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my witchy pooh, I know somebody that has a lot
of questions for you and it's not me. Oh my
good okay, okay, my outh. Nice nice opening. Wow, just
thrown it down. Okay, God, you have a little rhyming,
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Like who hates a rhyme? I think the answer should
be no one. And if you do, our listeners will
let us know. Yeah, they'll let us so. Actually, Julie,
I hate Ryn. In fact, I hate the intro to
your show so much so today so today you know,
I think her biggest fan is Sue Sue the cop
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cop Suee, my my niece, by marriage who was a
year younger than me, which is very funny. It is Arkansas, Texas,
that makes sense. So Sue is We've talked a lot
about Sue and about her journey and her tath and
her everything. She's been very generous with love giving us
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permission to do that. Yes, she has um and and
shows she likes to ask. She has a lot of
questions and she's such a powerful mind. Oh I know, right,
I know, And she's going to hear this and she's
gonna get a big head and I'm gonna have to
hear about it. She's like Granda said, I have we
in mind. Thanks thanks for that one. But she she does,
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She totally does. I love Sue dearly. And Sue is
so deep like not like not bathtub swimming pool like
I'm talking to ocean depths Like she's so deep and
she literally swims around in it for a while. You
know that. Yeah, oh yeah she does. And so she
just her mom just jumped and Sue has a lot
of questions and which I love that. I love that
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she's in it. She's in the grief, she's in the processing,
and you know where does she turn? Yeah, she turns
to UH Insider's Guide to the other Side. There you go.
That's what we're here for. That's right, that's right. I
would do my best, suit, I would do my best.
Um can I start out though, with the lightest, funniest
question and then we'll get into the depth because this
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one's hilarious and and this is going to be a
new nickname for your co host when I read this.
So this is actually Sue's last question on this, which
is I still want to know why coffee has a
low VA. I may I may not hyper Oh, she goes,
I may be hyper focused on coffee. Don't judge me,
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uncle Elf, because she tells me Aunt Susanne and Uncle elfe. Alright,
so what would you say to her, Uncle Elf? Well,
I don't drink coffee, so I don't even know how
that works. Did you ever drink coffee? No, I've never
had a I've had a drink like a sip. No, yeah,
neither of my life. I know. I feel like we're
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hypocritically even weighing in here, because yeah, so this is
what I'd say if you a dore coffee and it's
like just you know, it completes an energy circuit. In
your body when you drink it. That isn't an addiction,
right then your body probably doesn't have problems with it.
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But the truth of the matter is, for many people,
particularly the way coffee is processed, it's a lower vibration
and it jacks up the nervous system in a way
that isn't just keeping you awake, it's keeping you on edge.
And you know, we have enough of that in the
world straight up. We don't need to like chemically enhance
that ability. So that's why I'd say, if you, you know,
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you can keep it to a cup of day and
notice it doesn't disturb your sleep, doesn't put you on edge.
It's just more of a sacred ritual for you. And
you're getting your coffee processed in in a more organic
way than some of the chemicals they're using in commercial coffee.
Then have at it with my blessing and you know,
god speed. I don't know, I don't have to tell you.
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I mean, because there are bodies like that. I had
landed in London to study, and it was around my
birthday when this this I was studying abroad and some
ester that I was studying, and and so for my
birthday they took me to some fancy place and the
big treat was they gave me a cappuccino that was
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like like some that was like the treat and I
was like, you do people hate me? This is awful,
Like I spit it out and it was awful. That
that was well. I have my one experience with coffee
did not go well. And I have a bitter thing,
so I don't like bitter. That's why I'm not a
big fan of kale. If you dipped it in sugar
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and baked it and I like it and make it
like a sugary kale chip, but it's it's a it's
a bitter thing. And I found that out from three
and me. My mother didn't drink coffee either, and I'm
wondering if that was a trait that was handed down
through biology. I'm just drink coffee today, but back in
the day, she drank a pot of coffee a day
and she drink it throughout the day. That's always slept
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like a champ. I will say that handy, yeah, dark problem.
There are people. There are people where chemicals can act
like can reverse themselves, like how they operate in somebody's body,
said who knows. Um. Okay, Sue, there's your answer said
one and done. Okay, one and done on that. So
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do we need to take a break before our next question?
It's a fairly short one. I think it may not be,
but anyway, we'll sort that out. But I'm kind of
jumping around in the order that I want to go
through the question. So I am this happens when your
uncle Julie her uncle l find mean, her wife Natalie
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actually was calling me uncle Julie. Has been doing that
for about twenty five years. She was little. She was
like a teenager calling me uncle Julie. And that's cute. Yeah, Okay,
so Sue, here's the s second question. Can a person
know when they will jump? Question? Mark, My mom told
Natalie and me in April that she didn't think she
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would make it through the year. This is not unusual.
It's not unusual at all. And my impression, and you know,
talking to them after they've jumped, is that they sometimes
they they are embarrassed to say they dreamt it, or
they were embarrassed to say how when they're here on
the planet, you know, in in embodied they're embarrassed to
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tell people like, oh, I had a vision, or I
had a dream, or someone came and visited me and
told me they're They're embarrassed to say that, but they
oftentimes will have some sort of knowing or premonition of
generally like within like a two or three month window
of you know, when they're when they're time to exit?
Is um, So that's that's not unusual? Yeah, I I so.
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So the answer was, yes, I think it's interesting. And
I don't know if you've come across this because I'm
like a medium light. I'm like a medium small like me, right,
the only thing I'm a medium small, So I'm gonna
own that, right. I mean, you're like, you know, I'm
like a cell phone, you're a cell tower. It's all good.
I love it, I love you. I can accept all
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of this. I'm just happy to be in the whole
cellular club, you know. So when I've earned my my
right my rightful place in the cellular club. But any
time when you know I have spoken to someone's loved one,
you know how this goes, and they will people will ask, like,
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you know, well, when is my time? When am I
going to go like all these or when is so
and so going to go like somebody else on the planet.
They refuse, refuse to give me anything. And so I
asked one time, because it was night, it was you know,
I was the full card. It was Vante had no idea.
And when I get asked that, I'm like, guys, are
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they're not going to tell me? Because I don't think
you're supposed to know? Is my guess. So I just
don't ask. So does It's okay? Wherever you go, you go,
you'll be back. You'll be back. What's the worse that
can happen? What do you afraid of? What's over? What
are you afraid of? What if I dot, you'll be back,
You'll be conversation over real conversation. So this is what
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I'd say, for the most part, when you ask that question,
it is not honored or even entertained. Just kind of giggle.
They just gogle. Giggle yourself as humans are so funny
sort of thing. You're so adorable. And I will say,
you know, I've heard all kinds of stories about you know,
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seeks and readers and very wise people in different on
different continents that actually have access to those records. Some
are like they you know, reading the akashak records, because
that's where it would be. Some are literally physical records,
like they keep physical records that tell them something. I
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don't know what it is, but you know, the people
that I've talked to that have had these earthly experiences
were like, yeah, they pulled out volumes and the check
different charts. Yeah, and so I will say, there is
that information that can be available. But it is so
interesting because you know, you can't test the information. There's
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no beta set and alpha set, like you know, it's
just because you can't. You don't know if having this
piece of information actually creates it, right, right, I was
wondering that. I was like, as you're telling me, I'm like,
were they just what you ask for? Kind of thing?
Is what you focus on, right, is how is how
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we create? It's how we manifest. So like that what
you focus on, you know, where your attention goes, energy flows, right,
so you're feeling it. So there is this element that says, yeah,
that's probably why we don't give it to you totally.
I also don't want it. I don't want that. I
like that is a lot. I just like I just
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I don't want that responsibility. I don't want that we
get heavy enough stuff that it's said through us that
it's like I don't need to be like that's a
heavy load. Anybody, you know, for clients or family or
friends or you know, people that I am requested to
actually help someone in the passing process. And when I
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volunteered in hospice, when I'm working with with somebody in
that process, I can usually tell it'll be three days,
it will be two weeks, sort of like that's that's
a totally different situation. Yes, okay, I just have to
tell everybody. I just took my hair at a ponytail
and I looked like cousin and I just scared Brenda
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and I kind of scared myself. Okay what I expected.
That was really disruptive, really looked up. It was my
head was kind of like the headache, headache. I hate
that yet, but that going to take it. Oh yeah,
totally taking a break on that. And we are back
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with another series episode and apparently just everybody knows they
went a visual that I look like the guy from
back to the feature, the Crazy Scientists, you know, the
flex capacitor. Just everybody has a visual right now, how
incredibly attractive by Harris. But it's clean. It's clean. Oh,
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it's totally clean. Yeah, no bugs, no nothing. Okay, So
question here. Third question from Sue. What crystals help with
the grieving process and what are the best ways to
use them. My brother and his wife did CPR on
my mom when she jumped. Is there something more specific
to helping through the process of grieving due to the trauma?
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That's serious trauma. Okay, I'm so sorry. It was so intense.
H The thing is, you know, this is where your
people do so to it's such a disservice. I have
to say. You know, Hollywood's like people gay people, why
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did you become homophone? Just pick that up? This around
the corner? What the hell? Now that was people? No Hollywood,
where like we just have this is what death should be.
And you know, like gasping words and you know, lights
fade and you know, out closing. But death is it's active,
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it is it takes a lot of energy to organize
to leave. It's emotional, it's stressful, it's come and go,
and it's you know, it's sometimes hide and seek more
than anything. Like, it's really hard. So I want that
stays straight up. And so when you you know, you
tell me there's was CPR, and you know it didn't work,
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and even that can be very physical and very traumatic
for both the people providing and the one receiving. Right,
It's it's just really intense. Yeah. You know. Even my
brother when he was passing, they were aspirating him to
try and help him breathe, and he's biting on this
thing they put in his mouth and I'm like, stop it.
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I'm literally ten states away. I'm like, stop it. He
doesn't want that. It's you guys have to stop the
recovery and help him leave. How do we do that?
And like start singing to him, start singing to him,
like it's like that's how you help, right, you love him,
and that's how he's going to leave. And in coming
back to twoe minutes later, it's gone, but it but
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it was he was biting at It's like just so
uncomfortable and not that that would be a comfortable even
if you weren't on your exit planet. I mean, aspiration
is never comfortable. But um right, right, the music is
so helpful, rightful for and a little bit of bear
Man I was gonna say, had to be bear manelow
in there, come on if I know, Margaret, come on, yeah,
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let me come on. So excellent. And that doesn't mean
that their efforts were were violent or on welcome like that.
I'm not saying that at all, but I just again,
your Hollywood people, they well they have tainted. It's a
tainted perspective. So let me so I just want to
work with that. I haven't done the same things with relationships, ye,
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falling in love and that. Yeah, they totally Prince and
Princess called you I love you. Yeah, but here are there. Um.
So I have a recommendation something that I think works
incredibly well. And listen, everybody's different. So that's the other thing.
But when it comes to this grief, I'm gonna call
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it deep grieving Sugo light m hm. Nice is amazing
and we still in in you know, we we built
the hug pouch, but it wasn't called a hug pouch
at first. I think we called it like it was
a grieving pouch or something. I think that's what we
first called it. But it is this, the core of
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that is actually Sugo light. It is incredibly rare stone.
It's a purple, different shades of purple, it really is.
And I remember working with it when I started to
you know, understand, stones get into stones, and I had
a big chunk of sugo light and I would hold
it in my hand and I would have like the
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water works would just start. It's very healing. It is
very healing. So I'm a huge fan of that for
at least processing grief and supporting in that way. Totally
support that. I will say, when you were reading it,
I heard malachite, and not that malkaite isn't a healing stone,
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but I think that's very specific for her brother. So
that's what so I just wanted to give. Yeah. Uh,
and this is I'm talking to Sue right now. So
I have a lovely chunk that I'll send you. Okay,
it's it's I mean, it's clearly a hard stone, right,
it's it's green. But there's a lot of other things
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I would I would use that for um in addition
to grieving, but specifically I heard alokite for him. Okay,
well there's your answer on that one. But any hardstone,
right is so rose quarts of right, and then across
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side it, you can do all of those and may
anything yes, and may anything, yes, um, yeah, okay, so
just because it's a really high vibe. So that's why
they may blow anything. It's a really high vibim and
that's what we need when we're grieving. We need something
we do that's a higher frequency, you know, that that
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we can still access. And that's what me U is.
So it's beautiful, isn't it. It's so great I have.
It's such a high frequency. I don't have words for it.
That which is weird for you. I know, I have
so many. I have a friend that he is starting
to buy up all of our malas right now because
he's giving them out as gifts. Like he's like this guy.
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He goes, you know, there was this book. I oh,
I think he many lives, Many Masters. He goes, I
think I bought thirty copies and he gave them away
because and I just feel like these I just want
people to have this love and this support. Um okay,
next question, isn't that nice? He's a sweetheart of a guy.
People like that are on the planet right right, me too? Okay.
So Sue also asks when a person is going through
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the review, the life review after they jump, do you
think it's like a biblical judgment day where they get shamed,
or more like, hey, remember when this happened, you handled
that well, or you could have handled it differently. And
here are some suggests. Oh I like the biblical part.
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I mean it's like there's whips and change. That is
not what I thought she was going. Just caught me
off guard. Oh my god, Oh my god, Oh my god.
So the how to give a review section will come
next week, but so please student. So what's important to
remember as I understand the life review process is it's
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not like you are not without support in quote unquote
the room right. You have your guides, you have you know,
the head spirit that's you know, welcoming you in part
in charge of this process. But as you're going through
the review, you are in charge of deciding did I
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handle that well? Was that according to the plan that
I came in with? Where did I betray myself? Where
did I forget myself? None of those things are autobiographical
at all, but I'm just suggesting. I mean, I told
the story was a very brief story, and we've been
doing this for years now. But my friend in l
A who said, you know, I had a near death
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experience I had a guy him up the side hair
with a gun, but I lived in blah blah blah
blah blah. And that's when he said, He's like, yeah,
but I had this like whole image in this feeling
about how mean I had been to Valet, right the
Valet guy, and he goes in it just you know,
I felt how badly I made them feel. And that's
it what it is. As you're going through the life review,
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you are not only focused on your behaviors and engagements,
but you feel everything you ever made anyone else feel,
every time you uplifted someone and every time you took
someone down. And that personally is one of my greatest
motivations for the path I walk and try and create
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every day. It's just it's just that simple. It's comma right,
and and it is you know, it was a rough
couple of decades when I landed, but I figured, you know,
I got that inspiration and gave for me. But so
it's not according to a standard. As much as this
is what I agreed to do, was I able to
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accomplish it? And where did I veer off course? And
how was that valuable? Or how could I you know,
have made different choices or what would I understand and
how is this when I come out of Well, actually,
how I come out of this and how I understand
it will create my next incarnations, you know path that
I'm going to create my new contract. I just had
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that conversation on Saturday with a friend of mine who
has been in a terrible marriage for terribly long time,
and I just said, honey, because I'm not gonna s
name my honey, I go. Here's like, it's it's about
getting a plan moving out of this so you don't
have to do it again. You don't want to do
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this again, right? And I think that when you said
that's how you walk your path. Every day I think
about the life review. I think about I've loved my life,
but I want to do one next time. I don't
need to replay, you know. You know it's usually when
you yeah, you don't want to repeat courses in over
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school unless you have to know you because odds are
you're not going to get the greatest hits. You're gonna
get the you know, the greatest falls. And it's like,
I don't think I want to do that, but again
it's up to us, Like you said, and I think
it was a really great question. Yeah, and I like
the I like the biblical judgment. I mean it's like
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your post apocalyptic the rain is acid all that, you know.
That's kind of what I had in my head. Of course,
Hollywood is in my head. They are definitely my people. Um, okay,
so I'm gonna do one quick, funny one and then
we'll take a quick break and then Will will hit
the home stretch here. Um because this is just hilarious.
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And is there a contractual review? Because I feel like
there have been some legitimate contract violations concerning how cold
it gets in Texas during the winter. I was born
in Texas, and I feel like there had to have
had been an agreement that I get to live in
warm weather. There's no reason. I don't think there's a
response to that. But I mean, you're welcome to everyone.
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I just thought it was hilarious because I think it's funny.
Is now full stuff we are compleating? That's awesome. Isn't
that a great question? You can find think it was
a question. I can see you can file that complaint
when you land on the other side. Right, it's like
a decade secades review contractual review. It's like, I need
to look at my contract again because I think you
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side messed out or the row. Can you fix this? Please?
Are there spiritual attorney. It's the core to argue some
of these finer points in our contract. Oh my god. Yeah,
you gotta love that she's thinking. She is totally she's
totally thinking, and she's working her ankle. I like it.
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Don't wait to plan ahead, it's really smart. Okay, with that,
we'll take another quick breath. Right back, all right, and
welcome back episode to well or four. Remember we're on
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UH and I want other people to compete spot, So
come on, folks, bring it on. You have a couple
of contenders. I will say that, yeah, we totally do. So.
This I thought was the most serious question that I
want to save to the end. And it says, how
do I get to work in the ELF mail room?
I have experience in security too? Is there a resume
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builder to be an ELF A gal? Has to start somewhere?
I love you, thanks for taking my question. Oh my god,
But I just thought we could like maybe close a
bit and just have a few words on grief because
we've laughed a lot through this, which is I think
kind of what the plan is right for brief right,
it's it's the most healing thing we can certainly do
in those moments. But just to get some final thoughts, well,
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first of all, giggling is really helpful for almost everything,
and particularly for grief, just those little breaks in the
frequency in the nervous system. And the truth is sadness
and in laughter our neighbors right there, like they're very
close in the in the frequency continuum, and so it's
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not a known that a lot laughter breaks out of funerals. Well,
and you know, if anybody saw, and I hated bring
the Hollywood into it, but I thought it was in
the most brilliant movies was inside Out about sadness and joy, right,
and they are very closely related. Actually, one of my
one of my favorite movies is This Is Where I
Leave You, right, which is it's about the family comes
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home to to grief because the father died and the
adult children come home and it's hysterical anyhow so, um
so I think, so it's not unrelated. And I feel
like when we understand the value of grief and we
can know how it serves us, we can embrace it
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and not have to resist it or fight it because
it's so intense. People feel like it's going to swallow them.
But if it only will continue and consume you wholly
when you resist it, if look, it takes. Remember the
best analogy that someone told me when I was in
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deep grief is, look, it is a mile wide and
ten miles deep. And the beginning, that's what it feels like.
It's not, but that's what it feels like. And over
time it becomes an inch wide, and it's still a
couple of miles deep, but it's an inch wide. So
like it doesn't stay huge when you surrender your heart
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to it and you create sacred ritual and you get
support and you have guides that serve you and on
the earth plane right, Um, And you know I've said
this a thousand times. Mediumship is not a substitute for grieving. Like,
so when you know someone will text me, you know, hey,
my neighbor's husband died, you know, can you see her? Yeah?
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Absolutely not today, not in the next ninety days, No way.
You know, it doesn't It doesn't help, um, because you
I think embracing grief, right, and that's what riches can help.
I think it can certainly help. And I do think
this is the funny thing happened last night as we
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were sitting here talking about I can't believe I didn't
even think about this until now, but I took my
friend Cindy, her mom to the casino. She loves it
in the early eighties and she loves casino. But we
spent most of our time sitting in the little food
court area. Um sitting there, had late lunch talking, and
we talked for at least an hour about Alzheimer's because
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she lost her husband to Alzheimer's, and of course I
lost my mom to Alzheimer's, and and it's been six
years for her, eleven and a half for me, and
it was so incredibly healing for both of us. Right,
But it's like, it's okay, if you find the right
people to talk to about you can still move through things,
because you're going to be constantly moving through grief your
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entire life in one way or the other. And remember
it is our badge for loving, Yes, it is, indeed, right,
there's the price we pay for loving, is grieving. You
can every time I'd paid over and over and over
it is because it's so extraordinary. I love so deeply
and you can't separate them. You can't love with without grieving.
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That's right. So it's it's embraced the grief. It will
love you back like it will serve you. It will
heal you when you surrender, if you will learn so
much about yourself if you allow it. And trust me,
I am a perfect person to say that because that's
exactly what happened. So I I like I am. I'm
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one of the most empathetic sympathetic person to grieving because
I know how magnificent you can come out of it,
especially if you have a witchy poop by your side.
Thank you, yes, and so thank you Copsui for your
fabulous questions and comments. We enjoy them very much. The
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elf male room, I love somebody who can be sad
and still really funny because that it, to me is
one of the greatest gifts ever and it's it's just
the sacred threshold, right, So without a doubt it sure is.
So thanks for listening, everybody, and thank you everybody, and
thank you so sorry didn't get my thank you into
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to my my niece. And yes, remember our school is
hard without the other side. And cup Sue. Thanks everybody,
Thank you for joining us. Everyone, and a special thanks
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