November 29, 2023 • 32 mins
What do narcissists and aliens have in common? Can you sever someone's negative energy attachment? What do exterminators and Chakra colors have in common? Tune in today for the answers to all these questions and then some, as we host another episode of Insiders Insights!
As our conversation bounces from rainbows to rosaries and a shout-out to the Long Island Medium, here's a peek at some of the answers to today's questions:
✅ Boundaries ✅ Nervous System ✅ None-Ya ✅ Self Awareness
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to Insider's Guide to the Other Side, a production
of iHeartRadio. Hi, y'all, I'm Julie.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Hi there, I'm Brenda. Welcome to Insider's Guide to the
Other Side.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Now, y'all need to know that we are obsessed with
everything on the other side.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Yes, we are, because once you learn to navigate the energetic,
or to some the invisible world, life is going to
be more fun and much more serene.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Uh heck, yes it can. Because let's be honest, br in,
earth school is hard. In fact, you taught me.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
That let's crush Earth School together.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Well, hello, my witchy pooh.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
That was like the most serious version ever heard. What
are we five years in? Well?
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Okay, hello, how are you you made up this morning?
That was my cartoon voice. Hey, let me what you do?
Speaker 2 (01:02):
How are you great? Thanks?
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Okay, we have a ship ton to cover. Okay, so
you need to so you need to put joking around.
I need you to be serious and know that we
have a lot of information that we need to cover today.
So I just need you to really be on it
and not get distracted.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Okay, my dear listeners, I apologize for all my my
bs and hey.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Hey, hey, Hey, hey, hey, all good okay, so yes,
jump into this. Yes, I'm fine. So here's this. This
is one of the most favorite things I have ever read,
not just for the show, but possibly in life.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Oh my god, I can't wait.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
It is my favorite thing. So we love Johanna Hart.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Yes, yes we do. She is awesome.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
We love her so very much. And I'm sorry not
naming this episode after you because there's a lot to
come after this, but we don't know how to make
a whole episode out of what you just said. But
we're gonna tell everybody what you said because we loved it.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
We loved it so much.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
My god, this is the greatest thing ever. So this
is just for enjoyment for everybody. Is and by the way,
I have felt this way in my life. So she says,
I'm laughing for him reading. I feel like I'm the
last person in the universe to realize the colors of
chakras are the same colors as the rainbow. No shit,
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And she was, I guess I'm a little slow. Yeah, sister,
you are, but you got there.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
That's what You're not slow, because you did get there.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
You totally got there. And I'm just gonna say, even
though I told Brenda you can't get distracted, I'm gonna
tell you one very very funny thing. I'll do it
really fast.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
She can't be distracted. I can't be distracted.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Okay, Well you know that by me saying it to you,
I was saying it to myself. You were approxy to me.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
I do know that.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Okay, So this is hilarious. Susanna and I were driving
we were living in LA. We were driving down to
San Diego to go see our friend Andy, and terrible traffic,
very typical from LA to San Diego. We're sitting on
the on the four or five, literally just sitting there
in the car, and I start looking at the truck
in front of us, and for forty five minutes, I'm
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trying to like sort it out like a puzzle. What
the hell this this business was on this truck? And
I finally turned to Suzanne and I said, baby, what's
a go tan? And she goes what, I go, what's
a gotan? I goes that like some sort of California
creature or some sort of the hell's a gotan? She's
what are you looking at? And I pointed at the
truck in front and she she literally smacked me, like
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backhanded me. You smacked me. And she says it's an exterminator.
It's got ants, is what it says. I go, So
it's not a go.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Tant, Joanna. I hope you're feeling better.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
You're welcome. You're very welcome, very very fucking welcome, because
I had to tell you that. So you didn't feel.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
You know, that's all good. You got there, at least
us an't got there.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
I mean, listen to odz Aar. I was the only
person on the planet that thought that exterminating truck was
exterminating go tans. So I mean, Joe was way ahead
of my ass.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Okay, okay, no what else you got my house? I
don't know. I don't know how to segue from that.
You can't, I swear, I do not know.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
You can't go tan. You should have called this the
go Tant.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Episode. How about go elf? How about that?
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Okay, we'll just move on. But I just didn't want
her to feel like she was alone and you know,
figuring stuff out. I never I didn't. I probably would
still think it's a go Tan. By the way, if
Suzanne didn't correct me. Okay, so we have another question. Here,
are you ready?
Speaker 2 (05:12):
I am bring it?
Speaker 1 (05:14):
Okay, Hi, Julia and Brenda. I want to run something
by my two favorite podcast hosts. All right, already buttering
this up. Let's get it and see if you may
offer any advice. We always have advice, even if it's bad.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Even if it has nothing to do with your question.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Right, even has to do with you know, an exterminator
that exterminates go tans. Your episodes have been so helpful
and to so many of us, So here it goes. Okay, y'all, literally,
she says, narcissist dot dot dot, I think or alien.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
It's evil either.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
Way, same thing if you've been encountered either. Actually, narcissist
might be worse than an alien. It's but I think
the aliens are kind of fun an alien, right, The
ones in my backyard were fine, exactly see Okay, she
she continues, I've been around one or two over the years,
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and there's a little bit of jumping here, so I'll
work with for over two years. Oh, I've been Oh,
I've been around one for over two years. I can't
read go tan? Is that going to be our safe word?
Go tant? Okay? So okay? Oh, shit, the giggle fest
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is starting. Okay, I can't. I'm covering you up on
my strain so I can read this properly. Okay. She's
been around either a narcissis or an alien for a
year or two. All right. She belongs to the same
golf club. This person literally dropped out of the sky
and showed up. She has never spoken about friends from
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her past and doesn't have any friends outside this golf club.
She's an opportunist. She's an opportunist who finds a way
to get invited to everything. Being around her completely messes
with my energy. She puts in priends, my heart races, etc.
And not in a good way. So I think we're
clear that you don't have a crush on her. One
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of my first encounters with her, the hair stood up
on the back of my neck while she was speaking
to me. I know I'm an EmPATH. I notice set
boundaries and take a step back when I feel like
I'm talking too much in front and I'm talking too
much in from another friend or family member. But I've
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never experienced anything like her or this crazy feeling I
have when she's in my presence. Okay, to break it down,
oh my god, is at the beginning of like a
rap song. I want to break it down.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Well, so I was actually thinking we should take a
break and then we'll come back and address this.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Okay, why don't we take a break and you'll stop
giggling about go tans? All right, y'all, we'll be back.
Lo have a go tap break. Okay, y'all, we're back.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Wow. Okay, I just agreed.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
I'll bring us back brand. And then we sit there,
we stare at each other and.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
I'm like, huh oh, my goodness. Yeah, I don't even know.
I got no words. Okay. So, so to our dear listener,
this is what i'd say. First of all, I love
your self awareness that you know you're an EmPATH, you
know how to set boundaries, You're taking responsibility for yourself
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super important. So well done. And when you are in
a situation where you get triggered around someone, right, So
I'm responding for in the present for reasons that I'm
not aware of why. It could be something from my past.
It could be something that's other dimensional, like from a
past life. It could be something that I just not
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in my consciousness, but my nervous system knows so you
have to pay attention. You have to honor the cues
you're getting. Right, That's why we talk about all these
other things that are energetic based, so that we can't
we don't just like, oh, this happened, but we don't
do anything with the information. We have to be able
to activate our awareness to create things that are more comfortable,
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more appropriate, more aligned to our highest self. Like, these
are all the reasons why we have all these conversations.
So when the hair stands up on the back of
your neck, right, this is all the nervous system firing.
So this is precognitive. This is not you making things up.
It's your body literally having a reaction to this person.
And again you sometimes it's frustrating because we want to
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understand why is this just a narcissist? Is she dangerous?
Is she gonna like try and get my club number?
And like you you don't know?
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Now, by my bravo, I'm just gonna say bravo for
being that self aware.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Yeah, it's really great and you have to honor it.
So get out of the conversation with her and say, oh,
excuse me, I'm just gonna run over here and you know,
just walk away from you basically you know, you know,
but be polied about it and say, oh, I'm just
going to catch up with somebody, or I'll be right
back and like, because it could be that you can
engage with her, but you maybe not physically so close,
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like the proximity might be the trigger point, or it
could be the topic you're talking about, Like, play with
it and try and create more space. That's okay, that's
just fine until you can figure out. Like sometimes once
you figure it out and you can close this gap,
and it could be, oh, sh you remind me of
this person that I know was traumatized by in school,
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or sometimes you never figured it out because it was
a past life or something like that. But sometimes it's like, oh,
if as long as I keep this kind of distance,
I'll be fine. So find out what it is about,
because it's that person, whether they're an alien or a
narcissist or whatever it is, they're going to do what
they're going to do. Your job is to take care
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of you, and so that's what's really important. Design your
world so that it works for you.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
That is awesome advice. And do you mind if I
add now, of course I'm gonna add a little bit
to this. I've experienced this go for it both actually,
so one is I've experienced the like having those feelings like, oh,
like I need to get out of this person's presence.
And I will tell you nine out of ten times,
once I left the environment, I sat and I really
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spent time with it. I realized that at the time
it was me and how I was receiving right that
person or they were reminding me of something about me
that I didn't like or I was unsure about, or
because it's sometimes that it is a reminder of that.
And I'm not saying in this case that's what it is.
I just think it's something we're thinking about always.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
And the thing is, at the end of the day,
all you can do is control you. You can make
decisions for yourself. You can't make decisions for them. You
can't control them. You can't predict everything they're going to do.
You can only make decisions for you. So of course
you have to be part of the problem because you're
the only solution you have, right because otherwise you're a victim,
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and you know there are no victims, right we have.
I'm not saying terrible things, don't happen in the world,
of course, and when you're paying attention and you do
everything you can to empower yourself, make your choices and
move on. And if she's in the same golf club,
try not to be in her floursome full stop golf.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
This talk about golf, I think this is a really
important part of it too, because as when you have
these experiences, I think it's also important to really consider
the energy of locations in this case of particular activity
can hold. And I do actually feel like this is
something I am a little bit of an expert in
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because I have been playing golf since, yeah, since I
was I think seven six, seven years old, and I
was actually for that, you know, at the time was
really good. You know, I think I still hold the
youngest ever win the Oklahoma State Championship, had a golf scholarship.
I think when I was a senior in high school,
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was rank twelfth in the country. Just to throw down
a few creds that I've been around, well, it's more
about i've been around it, and I'm going to be
really honest, I never fit in from the minute I
started playing, So I just want to be really clear
about that. And I actually understand more as an adult
why I didn't Because golf holds some interesting energy. Golf
holds racism. There were clubs did not allow people of
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color to ever play or join. It holds misogyny. There's
still clubs in actually Georgia that don't allow women to play.
It also has a classist vibe to it as well.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
Yeah, you had no idea that was even a thing.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
Yeah, it's a thing. And I mean there were there
was like where I grew up in my little shitty town.
Sorry in friends that listen to this, h but it
kind of was. And the golf club there, Listen, this
was a blue collar town. You know, we were be
of good rich, be of good rich plant right, and
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people you know still like to be racist, misogynists and
classists no matter where you are. But even at our
at our town, like there were days that women couldn't
play golf. They weren't allowed on the course. So I
just want to be clear that I don't know who
wrote this question, by the way, So whoever you are that,
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I just want you to think about that in this location,
with this particular person, kind of process that a little
bit and see where maybe it's coming from and know
where what the energy holds in the sport and the
location of where the sport is is practiced, and and
that is that's the case really for anything you know.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
I've Well, it's so interesting because when you're talking about that,
and I'm just thinking how she says, you know, she
doesn't talk about friends outside. You don't know what she's
trying to hide, Like just knowing the frequency that hold
that golf holds. You know, maybe she's from the wrong
side of.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
The track, that's the classes. Maybe she's from West Cincinnati.
I know enough about Cincinnati to know East versus West.
There it's real, it is real. But I just I
just think that it's worth considering that and being clear
on that that I'm not quite sure that when people
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are in a classes and listen, it's not a judgment,
it's you know, it takes money to play golf, y'all
just does not my Oklahoma, it took twenty five dollars
to join the club.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
But I've got well money and time.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
It's indefinitely time. And so just like you know, don't
forget the origin the energy. You know, it's it was
it for a long time, a white man's game. Everybody.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
Yeah, it was a long time, long time.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Yeah, And I'm not being an asshole about it, because
I used to beat the hell out of them in
golf and not with my equipment, Like actually my score
was low theirs, which is probably why I played as
long as I did, because it was fun. It's always
fun to win anyway. So I just wanted to add
that piece to it because I feel very a bit
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of an expert attached to that a bit, So I
just wanted to share that.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
Yeah, and I think, you know, considering all that, you know,
taking the time to drop in and go knowing what
I feel, what's underneath it, you know, especially when you've
got some fear happening right in the nervous system saying
danger danger, like this isn't this isn't right, this isn't okay.
So what else is available to you to know? Like
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what else do I need to know to be present
with this, with this being? Or do I not need
to be present with this being? Like what's in my
highest good.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
Vacation matters any questions?
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Yeah, because it's all in the same frequency, right.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
It totally does. Like at my mom's afterlife party that
we had for her, at the whatever crackling crab Louisiana
something in Tulsa. I picked it out, so I'm not
It's not a slap slam on anybody but myself. Anyway,
I had somebody reach over and put their hand on
my back, and I wanted to crawl out of my skin.
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But it was location. I was grieving. I was devastated.
It was you know, it's also where you are in
your world. It's also where you are in the world.
All those things can matter to those feelings.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
So true, so true. Yeah, and again pay attention, honor it,
and see what else you can get, toads.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
I have an Okay, so we have one more question.
How about I read the question and then we come
back and address it, or do you want me to
wait and read it. It's up to use. Let's take
a break, Okay, lady's choice you want, and.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Welcome back for our final segment. What do you have
for us?
Speaker 1 (18:39):
Male? Okay, I have something really interesting. Okay, here it goes.
I have a strong feeling my sister has some sort
of negative attachment. Is there anything I could do on
my own to possibly help her? We live in the
same house with our older parents. I know that my
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sister would react negatively if she caught me doing something
in her bedroom or heard me praying out loud. She goes,
my sister is twenty nine, and so I say, twenty nine,
that was weird? Did it was so weird? I saw
it clearly, and it's not even dyslexia. My sister's forty
nine and I'm forty two. We've lived in this We've
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lived in this house for most of our lives. We
are no stranger to paranormal activity, but nothing too crazy.
Our house is peaceful for the most part. Something I
find strange that she does is that she reacts horribly
if my mom tells her peace be with you. When
she watched Sunday mass my sister gets very angry and
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will say a few curse words. And then she wrote,
we all have bad mouths. They're good mouths. Just FYI.
But I don't understand why she would get so angry
at being wished peace. You would have thought our mom
told her to f off. And for those that it's
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not too free off, not to freeze off, to funck off. Okay,
we got we gotta break this down. Do you want
to break you want to start breaking down or want
me to break down and.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
Go for it.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
Okay? For starters is this is none of your business
because what this sounds like to me, especially with the
information that we have, is that it sounds like mom
watches Sunday. Wait would she write that church mass mass
on Sunday? Yeah, so she watches Sunday Mass. And listen,
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your sister may not agree with the religion with how
she does it, you know, especially if it is some
of the megachurches, you know, which they're soldiers of cash,
not soldiers of God. Odd yes, that was a judgment,
but it's also truth. There's about ten thousand documentaries about it,
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and you have to trust a documentary because it's on film.
But here's the thing, it is none your business. There's
probably something that's in there that's between your sister and
your mom, and it's between them and I don't think
she has an attachment. I think she is triggered. This
sounds like she's triggered, not attached to something. Yeah, that's
what I mean by none of your business. I get
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you live in the same house, but it sounds like
there is It could be childhood, it could be religion.
Because some people feel traumatized by certain religion. That's just
my thoughts.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
No, I think that's probably right. And I do think
that there are times when whenever religion or spiritual traditions
anything are used as a weapon or used as should
or used to shame. Like, I mean, that's going to
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produce f off all the time, right, It's just it's
just gonna it's gonna trigger people, right, No one likes that.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
You know, I was raised in the in the Episcopal Church.
I've talked about this before. I was an altar boy.
And I say that because one of the guys thought
I was a boy. So I was an aulter boy.
And in about three quarters the way through the service,
there would be a pause and it would be turned
to your neighbor and and you would say may peace
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be with you and then also with you, right, like
this is was part of the tradition. So it's not
that it's not it's a it's a canned term and
doesn't quite seem like that is a mother offering a
child something unique or endearing. It sounds like it's something
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that came from a church experience.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
Well it's and it's done by wrote right.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
It's thank you that's the matter. It's it's done by road.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Yeah, it's done by road. So there's not a huge
emotional charge. And it's interesting because in the text she
actually said peace be with you, and it's literally may
peace be with you. Yes, right, it's supposed to be
may like so the option that the option was left out,
and that could be what she's and we don't know.
It could be a past life thing. It could be
an unresolved child thing. It could be you know, she's
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past life's abused by Catholic Church. We don't know, like
we don't know, don't know. Just yeah, but there's no
need for you to get in the middle of this.
There's no need.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
That's why I said in Aney Your Business. Yeah, yeah,
you know you've taught me so much again every episode
you taught me so much about well no but and
I mean this and I and it's all honoring you
because you have taught me quite a bit. Is and
it is about honoring the boundaries. It's like, this is
clearly something that is between mom and sister and your
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mom and it actually has nothing to do with you.
You're not triggered by it. Meaning if your mom said
peace be with you kind of thing, but your sister
is and that's their thing to sort out.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
And look, you said somewhere in there that you're no
stranger to paranormal activity, so you probably have some energetic sensitivity.
So when there's tension between them, that doesn't mean that
you're not affected by it. But that doesn't mean that
you can fix it, because right you're the bystander. Of
course it is going to impact you, but it's not
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yours to fix, right, So just keep loving both of
them and keep praying for healing, for the space, for
the dynamic of the household. Like that's what I would
be bringing down like that, that's what I would do.
So yeah, here's what I'll offer, though, Give that a whirl.
Give it a whirl to not judge your sister and
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think that she has an attachment, right, Give it a
whirl to what Brenda just said, which is to offer
kind of the piece between them, right like to yourself
and and happiness whatever you can offer from a prayer standpoint,
and then get back to us let us know, because
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I am so cool if we're wrong.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
I'm telling it. It doesn't feel like there's an attachment. I
just said. I'm okay with I didn't say it was.
I'm pretty sure we're not, but I really will. I'm
open to the possibility. So I would love to actually
hear back from you. And I didn't want to offend you.
I just I said and anyr business because I've had
that said to me so many times. So I don't
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want you to get mad and not listen again. Because
I love these questions. I understand why you would say
what you did. It's also you know, we're outsiders, so
we can have an outside perspective on it, even though
we're insiders. And and if I was too flipp and
I do apologize, but I would really invite you to
come back, you know, give it a month or so
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about it.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
I do a forty day practice.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
Okay, there you go.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
And look, I'm I'm making a jump here. I don't
know that it's true that it's a Catholic just because
you said Sunday mass I think of that as Catholicism.
That may not be the case, but if it's Catholic,
I literally would do, like you know, do a rosary
every day for forty days, asking to wrap these two
souls in forgiveness.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Yep, agreed, there you go. Okay, sorry, this is how
you're feeling and in the in the house you share
with your family. But we all have shit like this.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
Well, and I would also say, but even that practice,
sweet Jane, is going to help you. Yeah, that practice
while that you're offering for them, is going to help
your frequency. It's going to help you. So everybody wins.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Right. Oh there was another question here too, do you
have time? We'll make it fast, which was just curious.
I'm watching ghost Hunters. How do media feel about these
types of shows? Oh my god, let's just hit that in.
I'm gonna let everybody know. Not everything you see on
television is real, even even unscripted is scripted. And I
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think they can be reckless. I think they can be dangerous.
I actually do not watch ghost Hunter shows, to be clear,
I love it, I don't watch it.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
They they need content, you know, they need comment.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
They do it's ratings.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
So actually, we have a funny story about that.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
Oh my god, hilarious. Yes, we're going over ninety seconds
worth it, y'all. Yeah, it's a great story.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
So back in the day when the Long Island Medium
was on your network, and did you and I were
talking it was new. It was a new show, right,
and you're like, watch this show. And I watched it,
and I was so concerned about Teresa. Right, that's their name,
Teresa Caputo. Yeah, is so talented, such a talented media
(28:06):
and she, you know, would so I have an episode
I watched, she like would go running upstairs and close
the door and bed in tears, like leave me alone.
I can't talk to anybody. And I'm like my helf, like, no,
you have to talk to her. You have to help her,
because it doesn't have to be like this.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
You know. And I was so interrupt people in grocery
stores too. Yeah, Like that's another rule you do not break,
is what you always ask for permission. There was no
permission and the show at least what you saw on air.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
Yeah, and so I would. I was so upset for her, Like,
but you know, obviously I watched even less television back then.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
Because here's the thing. It's things on television are usually
mostly exaggerated. I think everything in life it feels exaggerated
these days. And the thing about Teresa is she is
the real but she's not a ghost hunter. But your
point is, yeah, yeah, but but you know, now, how
do you feel about And it's because it was a
show about mediumship. And when I had dinner with her,
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by the way, very gifted lady, and I remember, and
I wrote this in my book for those who haven't
read it, but I wrote about this this encounter. I
sat next to her at dinner and I was telling
her about you, and I was and I had asked her,
I said, so mind you. I was very still, very
much of any naive state at this point when it
came to what we talk about, and I said, so,
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do your battery like phone batteries drain? I was, do
your lights just like kind of like pop out and
like just boom and they're short of all these kinds
of things. And she looked at me and I said, well,
you know, my friend Brenda, this happens to her. And
she looked at me and she goes, yeah, okay, not
that anybody's better than anybody, but she goes, let me
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tell you. She says, I'm here, and she kind of
put her hand kind of the middle of her head,
like I'm here in the spiritual world. And then she
moved her hand well above her head and says, your
friend Brenda's up here, not good is one of my
favorite stories in the whole wide world. She's right, and
she's amazing, and I actually saw her again in New
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York and ran into her at a restaurant.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
But so but so talented, so talented. But the point
is that those run into the grocery store and the
drama like was created for television.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
It's for your entertainment.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
Yeah, and because it's it's it's show business. It's literally
show business people.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
Yeah. And ghost Hunters. You know, I've watched a few shows,
which is why I don't watch them. Everybody, you should
watch them. I'll just let you know it's mostly not true,
especially when they used equipment or they you know, because
you know, ghost starve to most of invisible. So they're
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just trying to make it not that way. And so
enjoy it and as fun. Don't have dreams nightmares about it.
Just a piece of entertainment. And that's what I would
suggest with that.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
We're gonna call this one a wrap up, wrap a wrap.
Thanks for listening everyone, and remember our school is.
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of iHeartRadio. Hi, y'all, I'm Julie.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Hi there, I'm Brenda. Welcome to Insider's Guide to the
Other Side.
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Now, y'all need to know that we are obsessed with
everything on the other side.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Yes, we are, because once you learn to navigate the energetic,
or to some the invisible world, life is going to
be more fun and much more serene.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Uh heck, yes it can. Because let's be honest, br in,
earth school is hard. In fact, you taught me.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
That let's crush Earth School together.
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Well, hello, my witchy pooh.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
That was like the most serious version ever heard. What
are we five years in? Well?
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Okay, hello, how are you you made up this morning?
That was my cartoon voice. Hey, let me what you do?
Speaker 2 (01:02):
How are you great? Thanks?
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Okay, we have a ship ton to cover. Okay, so
you need to so you need to put joking around.
I need you to be serious and know that we
have a lot of information that we need to cover today.
So I just need you to really be on it
and not get distracted.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Okay, my dear listeners, I apologize for all my my
bs and hey.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Hey, hey, Hey, hey, hey, all good okay, so yes,
jump into this. Yes, I'm fine. So here's this. This
is one of the most favorite things I have ever read,
not just for the show, but possibly in life.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Oh my god, I can't wait.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
It is my favorite thing. So we love Johanna Hart.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Yes, yes we do. She is awesome.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
We love her so very much. And I'm sorry not
naming this episode after you because there's a lot to
come after this, but we don't know how to make
a whole episode out of what you just said. But
we're gonna tell everybody what you said because we loved it.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
We loved it so much.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
My god, this is the greatest thing ever. So this
is just for enjoyment for everybody. Is and by the way,
I have felt this way in my life. So she says,
I'm laughing for him reading. I feel like I'm the
last person in the universe to realize the colors of
chakras are the same colors as the rainbow. No shit,
(02:35):
And she was, I guess I'm a little slow. Yeah, sister,
you are, but you got there.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
That's what You're not slow, because you did get there.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
You totally got there. And I'm just gonna say, even
though I told Brenda you can't get distracted, I'm gonna
tell you one very very funny thing. I'll do it
really fast.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
She can't be distracted. I can't be distracted.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Okay, Well you know that by me saying it to you,
I was saying it to myself. You were approxy to me.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
I do know that.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Okay, So this is hilarious. Susanna and I were driving
we were living in LA. We were driving down to
San Diego to go see our friend Andy, and terrible traffic,
very typical from LA to San Diego. We're sitting on
the on the four or five, literally just sitting there
in the car, and I start looking at the truck
in front of us, and for forty five minutes, I'm
(03:26):
trying to like sort it out like a puzzle. What
the hell this this business was on this truck? And
I finally turned to Suzanne and I said, baby, what's
a go tan? And she goes what, I go, what's
a gotan? I goes that like some sort of California
creature or some sort of the hell's a gotan? She's
what are you looking at? And I pointed at the
truck in front and she she literally smacked me, like
(03:50):
backhanded me. You smacked me. And she says it's an exterminator.
It's got ants, is what it says. I go, So
it's not a go.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Tant, Joanna. I hope you're feeling better.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
You're welcome. You're very welcome, very very fucking welcome, because
I had to tell you that. So you didn't feel.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
You know, that's all good. You got there, at least
us an't got there.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
I mean, listen to odz Aar. I was the only
person on the planet that thought that exterminating truck was
exterminating go tans. So I mean, Joe was way ahead
of my ass.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Okay, okay, no what else you got my house? I
don't know. I don't know how to segue from that.
You can't, I swear, I do not know.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
You can't go tan. You should have called this the
go Tant.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Episode. How about go elf? How about that?
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Okay, we'll just move on. But I just didn't want
her to feel like she was alone and you know,
figuring stuff out. I never I didn't. I probably would
still think it's a go Tan. By the way, if
Suzanne didn't correct me. Okay, so we have another question. Here,
are you ready?
Speaker 2 (05:12):
I am bring it?
Speaker 1 (05:14):
Okay, Hi, Julia and Brenda. I want to run something
by my two favorite podcast hosts. All right, already buttering
this up. Let's get it and see if you may
offer any advice. We always have advice, even if it's bad.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Even if it has nothing to do with your question.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Right, even has to do with you know, an exterminator
that exterminates go tans. Your episodes have been so helpful
and to so many of us, So here it goes. Okay, y'all, literally,
she says, narcissist dot dot dot, I think or alien.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
It's evil either.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
Way, same thing if you've been encountered either. Actually, narcissist
might be worse than an alien. It's but I think
the aliens are kind of fun an alien, right, The
ones in my backyard were fine, exactly see Okay, she
she continues, I've been around one or two over the years,
(06:20):
and there's a little bit of jumping here, so I'll
work with for over two years. Oh, I've been Oh,
I've been around one for over two years. I can't
read go tan? Is that going to be our safe word?
Go tant? Okay? So okay? Oh, shit, the giggle fest
(06:46):
is starting. Okay, I can't. I'm covering you up on
my strain so I can read this properly. Okay. She's
been around either a narcissis or an alien for a
year or two. All right. She belongs to the same
golf club. This person literally dropped out of the sky
and showed up. She has never spoken about friends from
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her past and doesn't have any friends outside this golf club.
She's an opportunist. She's an opportunist who finds a way
to get invited to everything. Being around her completely messes
with my energy. She puts in priends, my heart races, etc.
And not in a good way. So I think we're
clear that you don't have a crush on her. One
(07:28):
of my first encounters with her, the hair stood up
on the back of my neck while she was speaking
to me. I know I'm an EmPATH. I notice set
boundaries and take a step back when I feel like
I'm talking too much in front and I'm talking too
much in from another friend or family member. But I've
(07:51):
never experienced anything like her or this crazy feeling I
have when she's in my presence. Okay, to break it down,
oh my god, is at the beginning of like a
rap song. I want to break it down.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Well, so I was actually thinking we should take a
break and then we'll come back and address this.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Okay, why don't we take a break and you'll stop
giggling about go tans? All right, y'all, we'll be back.
Lo have a go tap break. Okay, y'all, we're back.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Wow. Okay, I just agreed.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
I'll bring us back brand. And then we sit there,
we stare at each other and.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
I'm like, huh oh, my goodness. Yeah, I don't even know.
I got no words. Okay. So, so to our dear listener,
this is what i'd say. First of all, I love
your self awareness that you know you're an EmPATH, you
know how to set boundaries, You're taking responsibility for yourself
(08:56):
super important. So well done. And when you are in
a situation where you get triggered around someone, right, So
I'm responding for in the present for reasons that I'm
not aware of why. It could be something from my past.
It could be something that's other dimensional, like from a
past life. It could be something that I just not
(09:22):
in my consciousness, but my nervous system knows so you
have to pay attention. You have to honor the cues
you're getting. Right, That's why we talk about all these
other things that are energetic based, so that we can't
we don't just like, oh, this happened, but we don't
do anything with the information. We have to be able
to activate our awareness to create things that are more comfortable,
(09:47):
more appropriate, more aligned to our highest self. Like, these
are all the reasons why we have all these conversations.
So when the hair stands up on the back of
your neck, right, this is all the nervous system firing.
So this is precognitive. This is not you making things up.
It's your body literally having a reaction to this person.
And again you sometimes it's frustrating because we want to
(10:10):
understand why is this just a narcissist? Is she dangerous?
Is she gonna like try and get my club number?
And like you you don't know?
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Now, by my bravo, I'm just gonna say bravo for
being that self aware.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Yeah, it's really great and you have to honor it.
So get out of the conversation with her and say, oh,
excuse me, I'm just gonna run over here and you know,
just walk away from you basically you know, you know,
but be polied about it and say, oh, I'm just
going to catch up with somebody, or I'll be right
back and like, because it could be that you can
engage with her, but you maybe not physically so close,
(10:43):
like the proximity might be the trigger point, or it
could be the topic you're talking about, Like, play with
it and try and create more space. That's okay, that's
just fine until you can figure out. Like sometimes once
you figure it out and you can close this gap,
and it could be, oh, sh you remind me of
this person that I know was traumatized by in school,
(11:05):
or sometimes you never figured it out because it was
a past life or something like that. But sometimes it's like, oh,
if as long as I keep this kind of distance,
I'll be fine. So find out what it is about,
because it's that person, whether they're an alien or a
narcissist or whatever it is, they're going to do what
they're going to do. Your job is to take care
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of you, and so that's what's really important. Design your
world so that it works for you.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
That is awesome advice. And do you mind if I
add now, of course I'm gonna add a little bit
to this. I've experienced this go for it both actually,
so one is I've experienced the like having those feelings like, oh,
like I need to get out of this person's presence.
And I will tell you nine out of ten times,
once I left the environment, I sat and I really
(11:55):
spent time with it. I realized that at the time
it was me and how I was receiving right that
person or they were reminding me of something about me
that I didn't like or I was unsure about, or
because it's sometimes that it is a reminder of that.
And I'm not saying in this case that's what it is.
I just think it's something we're thinking about always.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
And the thing is, at the end of the day,
all you can do is control you. You can make
decisions for yourself. You can't make decisions for them. You
can't control them. You can't predict everything they're going to do.
You can only make decisions for you. So of course
you have to be part of the problem because you're
the only solution you have, right because otherwise you're a victim,
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and you know there are no victims, right we have.
I'm not saying terrible things, don't happen in the world,
of course, and when you're paying attention and you do
everything you can to empower yourself, make your choices and
move on. And if she's in the same golf club,
try not to be in her floursome full stop golf.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
This talk about golf, I think this is a really
important part of it too, because as when you have
these experiences, I think it's also important to really consider
the energy of locations in this case of particular activity
can hold. And I do actually feel like this is
something I am a little bit of an expert in
(13:18):
because I have been playing golf since, yeah, since I
was I think seven six, seven years old, and I
was actually for that, you know, at the time was
really good. You know, I think I still hold the
youngest ever win the Oklahoma State Championship, had a golf scholarship.
I think when I was a senior in high school,
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was rank twelfth in the country. Just to throw down
a few creds that I've been around, well, it's more
about i've been around it, and I'm going to be
really honest, I never fit in from the minute I
started playing, So I just want to be really clear
about that. And I actually understand more as an adult
why I didn't Because golf holds some interesting energy. Golf
holds racism. There were clubs did not allow people of
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color to ever play or join. It holds misogyny. There's
still clubs in actually Georgia that don't allow women to play.
It also has a classist vibe to it as well.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
Yeah, you had no idea that was even a thing.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
Yeah, it's a thing. And I mean there were there
was like where I grew up in my little shitty town.
Sorry in friends that listen to this, h but it
kind of was. And the golf club there, Listen, this
was a blue collar town. You know, we were be
of good rich, be of good rich plant right, and
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people you know still like to be racist, misogynists and
classists no matter where you are. But even at our
at our town, like there were days that women couldn't
play golf. They weren't allowed on the course. So I
just want to be clear that I don't know who
wrote this question, by the way, So whoever you are that,
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I just want you to think about that in this location,
with this particular person, kind of process that a little
bit and see where maybe it's coming from and know
where what the energy holds in the sport and the
location of where the sport is is practiced, and and
that is that's the case really for anything you know.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
I've Well, it's so interesting because when you're talking about that,
and I'm just thinking how she says, you know, she
doesn't talk about friends outside. You don't know what she's
trying to hide, Like just knowing the frequency that hold
that golf holds. You know, maybe she's from the wrong
side of.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
The track, that's the classes. Maybe she's from West Cincinnati.
I know enough about Cincinnati to know East versus West.
There it's real, it is real. But I just I
just think that it's worth considering that and being clear
on that that I'm not quite sure that when people
(16:01):
are in a classes and listen, it's not a judgment,
it's you know, it takes money to play golf, y'all
just does not my Oklahoma, it took twenty five dollars
to join the club.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
But I've got well money and time.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
It's indefinitely time. And so just like you know, don't
forget the origin the energy. You know, it's it was
it for a long time, a white man's game. Everybody.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
Yeah, it was a long time, long time.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Yeah, And I'm not being an asshole about it, because
I used to beat the hell out of them in
golf and not with my equipment, Like actually my score
was low theirs, which is probably why I played as
long as I did, because it was fun. It's always
fun to win anyway. So I just wanted to add
that piece to it because I feel very a bit
(16:54):
of an expert attached to that a bit, So I
just wanted to share that.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
Yeah, and I think, you know, considering all that, you know,
taking the time to drop in and go knowing what
I feel, what's underneath it, you know, especially when you've
got some fear happening right in the nervous system saying
danger danger, like this isn't this isn't right, this isn't okay.
So what else is available to you to know? Like
(17:20):
what else do I need to know to be present
with this, with this being? Or do I not need
to be present with this being? Like what's in my
highest good.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
Vacation matters any questions?
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Yeah, because it's all in the same frequency, right.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
It totally does. Like at my mom's afterlife party that
we had for her, at the whatever crackling crab Louisiana
something in Tulsa. I picked it out, so I'm not
It's not a slap slam on anybody but myself. Anyway,
I had somebody reach over and put their hand on
my back, and I wanted to crawl out of my skin.
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But it was location. I was grieving. I was devastated.
It was you know, it's also where you are in
your world. It's also where you are in the world.
All those things can matter to those feelings.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
So true, so true. Yeah, and again pay attention, honor it,
and see what else you can get, toads.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
I have an Okay, so we have one more question.
How about I read the question and then we come
back and address it, or do you want me to
wait and read it. It's up to use. Let's take
a break, Okay, lady's choice you want, and.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Welcome back for our final segment. What do you have
for us?
Speaker 1 (18:39):
Male? Okay, I have something really interesting. Okay, here it goes.
I have a strong feeling my sister has some sort
of negative attachment. Is there anything I could do on
my own to possibly help her? We live in the
same house with our older parents. I know that my
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sister would react negatively if she caught me doing something
in her bedroom or heard me praying out loud. She goes,
my sister is twenty nine, and so I say, twenty nine,
that was weird? Did it was so weird? I saw
it clearly, and it's not even dyslexia. My sister's forty
nine and I'm forty two. We've lived in this We've
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lived in this house for most of our lives. We
are no stranger to paranormal activity, but nothing too crazy.
Our house is peaceful for the most part. Something I
find strange that she does is that she reacts horribly
if my mom tells her peace be with you. When
she watched Sunday mass my sister gets very angry and
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will say a few curse words. And then she wrote,
we all have bad mouths. They're good mouths. Just FYI.
But I don't understand why she would get so angry
at being wished peace. You would have thought our mom
told her to f off. And for those that it's
(20:07):
not too free off, not to freeze off, to funck off. Okay,
we got we gotta break this down. Do you want
to break you want to start breaking down or want
me to break down and.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
Go for it.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
Okay? For starters is this is none of your business
because what this sounds like to me, especially with the
information that we have, is that it sounds like mom
watches Sunday. Wait would she write that church mass mass
on Sunday? Yeah, so she watches Sunday Mass. And listen,
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your sister may not agree with the religion with how
she does it, you know, especially if it is some
of the megachurches, you know, which they're soldiers of cash,
not soldiers of God. Odd yes, that was a judgment,
but it's also truth. There's about ten thousand documentaries about it,
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and you have to trust a documentary because it's on film.
But here's the thing, it is none your business. There's
probably something that's in there that's between your sister and
your mom, and it's between them and I don't think
she has an attachment. I think she is triggered. This
sounds like she's triggered, not attached to something. Yeah, that's
what I mean by none of your business. I get
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you live in the same house, but it sounds like
there is It could be childhood, it could be religion.
Because some people feel traumatized by certain religion. That's just
my thoughts.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
No, I think that's probably right. And I do think
that there are times when whenever religion or spiritual traditions
anything are used as a weapon or used as should
or used to shame. Like, I mean, that's going to
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produce f off all the time, right, It's just it's
just gonna it's gonna trigger people, right, No one likes that.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
You know, I was raised in the in the Episcopal Church.
I've talked about this before. I was an altar boy.
And I say that because one of the guys thought
I was a boy. So I was an aulter boy.
And in about three quarters the way through the service,
there would be a pause and it would be turned
to your neighbor and and you would say may peace
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be with you and then also with you, right, like
this is was part of the tradition. So it's not
that it's not it's a it's a canned term and
doesn't quite seem like that is a mother offering a
child something unique or endearing. It sounds like it's something
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that came from a church experience.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
Well it's and it's done by wrote right.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
It's thank you that's the matter. It's it's done by road.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Yeah, it's done by road. So there's not a huge
emotional charge. And it's interesting because in the text she
actually said peace be with you, and it's literally may
peace be with you. Yes, right, it's supposed to be
may like so the option that the option was left out,
and that could be what she's and we don't know.
It could be a past life thing. It could be
an unresolved child thing. It could be you know, she's
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past life's abused by Catholic Church. We don't know, like
we don't know, don't know. Just yeah, but there's no
need for you to get in the middle of this.
There's no need.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
That's why I said in Aney Your Business. Yeah, yeah,
you know you've taught me so much again every episode
you taught me so much about well no but and
I mean this and I and it's all honoring you
because you have taught me quite a bit. Is and
it is about honoring the boundaries. It's like, this is
clearly something that is between mom and sister and your
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mom and it actually has nothing to do with you.
You're not triggered by it. Meaning if your mom said
peace be with you kind of thing, but your sister
is and that's their thing to sort out.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
And look, you said somewhere in there that you're no
stranger to paranormal activity, so you probably have some energetic sensitivity.
So when there's tension between them, that doesn't mean that
you're not affected by it. But that doesn't mean that
you can fix it, because right you're the bystander. Of
course it is going to impact you, but it's not
(24:32):
yours to fix, right, So just keep loving both of
them and keep praying for healing, for the space, for
the dynamic of the household. Like that's what I would
be bringing down like that, that's what I would do.
So yeah, here's what I'll offer, though, Give that a whirl.
Give it a whirl to not judge your sister and
(24:54):
think that she has an attachment, right, Give it a
whirl to what Brenda just said, which is to offer
kind of the piece between them, right like to yourself
and and happiness whatever you can offer from a prayer standpoint,
and then get back to us let us know, because
(25:15):
I am so cool if we're wrong.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
I'm telling it. It doesn't feel like there's an attachment. I
just said. I'm okay with I didn't say it was.
I'm pretty sure we're not, but I really will. I'm
open to the possibility. So I would love to actually
hear back from you. And I didn't want to offend you.
I just I said and anyr business because I've had
that said to me so many times. So I don't
(25:38):
want you to get mad and not listen again. Because
I love these questions. I understand why you would say
what you did. It's also you know, we're outsiders, so
we can have an outside perspective on it, even though
we're insiders. And and if I was too flipp and
I do apologize, but I would really invite you to
come back, you know, give it a month or so
(26:00):
about it.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
I do a forty day practice.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
Okay, there you go.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
And look, I'm I'm making a jump here. I don't
know that it's true that it's a Catholic just because
you said Sunday mass I think of that as Catholicism.
That may not be the case, but if it's Catholic,
I literally would do, like you know, do a rosary
every day for forty days, asking to wrap these two
souls in forgiveness.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Yep, agreed, there you go. Okay, sorry, this is how
you're feeling and in the in the house you share
with your family. But we all have shit like this.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
Well, and I would also say, but even that practice,
sweet Jane, is going to help you. Yeah, that practice
while that you're offering for them, is going to help
your frequency. It's going to help you. So everybody wins.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Right. Oh there was another question here too, do you
have time? We'll make it fast, which was just curious.
I'm watching ghost Hunters. How do media feel about these
types of shows? Oh my god, let's just hit that in.
I'm gonna let everybody know. Not everything you see on
television is real, even even unscripted is scripted. And I
(27:16):
think they can be reckless. I think they can be dangerous.
I actually do not watch ghost Hunter shows, to be clear,
I love it, I don't watch it.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
They they need content, you know, they need comment.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
They do it's ratings.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
So actually, we have a funny story about that.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
Oh my god, hilarious. Yes, we're going over ninety seconds
worth it, y'all. Yeah, it's a great story.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
So back in the day when the Long Island Medium
was on your network, and did you and I were
talking it was new. It was a new show, right,
and you're like, watch this show. And I watched it,
and I was so concerned about Teresa. Right, that's their name,
Teresa Caputo. Yeah, is so talented, such a talented media
(28:06):
and she, you know, would so I have an episode
I watched, she like would go running upstairs and close
the door and bed in tears, like leave me alone.
I can't talk to anybody. And I'm like my helf, like, no,
you have to talk to her. You have to help her,
because it doesn't have to be like this.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
You know. And I was so interrupt people in grocery
stores too. Yeah, Like that's another rule you do not break,
is what you always ask for permission. There was no
permission and the show at least what you saw on air.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
Yeah, and so I would. I was so upset for her, Like,
but you know, obviously I watched even less television back then.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
Because here's the thing. It's things on television are usually
mostly exaggerated. I think everything in life it feels exaggerated
these days. And the thing about Teresa is she is
the real but she's not a ghost hunter. But your
point is, yeah, yeah, but but you know, now, how
do you feel about And it's because it was a
show about mediumship. And when I had dinner with her,
(29:06):
by the way, very gifted lady, and I remember, and
I wrote this in my book for those who haven't
read it, but I wrote about this this encounter. I
sat next to her at dinner and I was telling
her about you, and I was and I had asked her,
I said, so mind you. I was very still, very
much of any naive state at this point when it
came to what we talk about, and I said, so,
(29:29):
do your battery like phone batteries drain? I was, do
your lights just like kind of like pop out and
like just boom and they're short of all these kinds
of things. And she looked at me and I said, well,
you know, my friend Brenda, this happens to her. And
she looked at me and she goes, yeah, okay, not
that anybody's better than anybody, but she goes, let me
(29:51):
tell you. She says, I'm here, and she kind of
put her hand kind of the middle of her head,
like I'm here in the spiritual world. And then she
moved her hand well above her head and says, your
friend Brenda's up here, not good is one of my
favorite stories in the whole wide world. She's right, and
she's amazing, and I actually saw her again in New
(30:11):
York and ran into her at a restaurant.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
But so but so talented, so talented. But the point
is that those run into the grocery store and the
drama like was created for television.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
It's for your entertainment.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
Yeah, and because it's it's it's show business. It's literally
show business people.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
Yeah. And ghost Hunters. You know, I've watched a few shows,
which is why I don't watch them. Everybody, you should
watch them. I'll just let you know it's mostly not true,
especially when they used equipment or they you know, because
you know, ghost starve to most of invisible. So they're
(30:52):
just trying to make it not that way. And so
enjoy it and as fun. Don't have dreams nightmares about it.
Just a piece of entertainment. And that's what I would
suggest with that.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
We're gonna call this one a wrap up, wrap a wrap.
Thanks for listening everyone, and remember our school is.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
Hard, yeah it is, oh yeah without the other side.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
Thank you for joining us, everyone, and a special thanks
to our producer Joey Patt and our executive producer, Maya
Cole Howard, who guides us well we guide you.
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