May 10, 2023 • 32 mins
Like driving, life lessons can take twice as long when you turn down the wrong path. So, how do you know which direction is incorrect? It's the one adorned with signs that say: turn here to please others, boundary-free zone, say yes instead of no, merge here to avoid judgment...
Today Brenda and Julie offer you a map to your ideal destination. When faced when making choices, there are some key questions you can ask yourself to discern the right path for you. There are also ways to avoid certain 'loops' that override your instincts. You'll learn how to pay attention to your body's cues when making choices so that your decisions honor your innate navigation system.
So, how do you know what you know when you know it? By tuning in to the Other Side. Because Earth School is hard - without the ability to trust yourself.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to Insider's Guide to the Other Side, a production
of iHeartRadio. Hi, y'all, I'm Julie.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Hi there, I'm Brenda. Welcome to Insider's Guide to the
Other Side.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Now, y'all need to know that we are obsessed with
everything on the other side.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Yes, we are, because once you learn to navigate the energetic,
or to some the invisible world, life is going to
be more fun and much more serene.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Uh heck, yes it can, because, let's be honest, br in,
earth school is hard.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
In fact, you taught me.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
That let's crush Earth school together.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Well, hello, my witchy pooh, guess what, I'm fucking sick again.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Well that saves me asking you how you are?
Speaker 3 (00:53):
But how are you?
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Oh good, way better than I am.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
I'm so sorry. You sound all like it's just awful.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
Yea, it is not the first time and it's not
the last.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Well, don't you think though, like going through your first
spring in an area like you just have, you have
to set your kind of X bar in there.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
You know. I think I think what happened because it's
the full on sinus infection, which I have not had.
I looked on old pill bottles since twenty eleven.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Which means you've moved those like four times.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
Oh oh, have I not confessed I'm a pill hoarder
just in case. It's a little apocalyptic part of me.
So just why everybody that's shit's gonna keep happening? So yeah,
I am. So I'm like it is Philip with the
apocalyptic part. It just is. I can't help it. I
blame Margaret. Here's why I blame Margaret. She kept everything
(01:51):
until it expired, like beyond expiration. Like she had she
had Tabasco sauce that turned brown and she kept it
because it's fine. She would also go, no, I blame her.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
I just.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
And she would also she was like a single person
for a very long time, and she would go to
Sam's Wholesale Club when they first opened in Tulsa in
like the eighties, and she would load up on stuff.
So very honestly, So, I'm a pill hoarder. But anyway,
I haven't had this in a really long time. And
I and it started like a day it felt like alergy's.
(02:33):
The next day, I'm down. I mean, it hit hard.
And I also think, because this is also part of
this episode is about life choices, I think that I
have been exhausted in the last year from the move,
and I think it was a universe just knocking me
on my ass. And you know what, why don't you rest, bitch?
You meant busy and we're gonna knock you on your ass.
(02:55):
And I think sometimes that's what happens. Yeah, yeah, yeah, So.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
I am humbled and I have learned that lesson very
very very frequently.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
Yeah, I have no problems surrendering when I'm sick. Plus
I get it. And here's why. Streaming TV, I mean seriously,
it's like, oh my god, I don't I can't leave
the bed. I shouldn't leave the bed. In fact, for
five days I was in bed and did not hardly leave.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
And.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
I watched so much great stuff. So that's why I'm
not mad about being sick and in bed.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
And well, I mean, I feel like when I'm sick,
if I try and watch TV, I just fall asleep,
like I don't.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Watch Oh I do that. So here's the key. You
have to you just haven't watched enough stuff to rewatch anything.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
So I've watched so many things I can rewatch and
I can take a nap wake up like I rewatched Homeland.
Remember Homeland Blonde? Yeah, yeah, way to go, you got that, right?
I mean, everybody round of applause for Brenda because seriously,
it's worth it. So anyway, so yeah, I rewatched that
(04:16):
so I could fall asleep and like, you know, do
my little nappy nap, and then I got up and
I knew where it was.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
It's not fine, but I've seen Homeland in a hotel
and that's not something you fall asleep to.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
Well you can.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
It's so tense.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
It's very intense. It's very intense.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
That's why I only saw one episode.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
There you go, So what the hell are we calling
this episode?
Speaker 2 (04:38):
We are talking about life lessons, life.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
Lessons or choices. Life choices are life lessons life choices?
Speaker 2 (04:43):
I think both life choices, which means you're choosing different lessons.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
Oh, I got it. So can I tell you that
my latest one bring it with a doctor. Interestingly enough,
And you know I was always that kid. I'm sure
you were probably raised the same way. We're always raised
to respect intext do whatever they tell us to. Like
authority figures, right, I don't care if it's a cop,
a fireman, a doctor, a lawyer. That's how things kind
(05:08):
of went. Well, I threw that shit out the window. Yeah,
well I was but I threw it out the window.
And I threw it out a couple of weeks ago
when I went to the doctor. And because I go in,
I might have a cough, and obviously congestion is starting.
Da da da, because I know when something's coming on,
(05:29):
so less than number one is no your body right, yeah,
you feel it. You know your patterns, I totally know.
Very rarely have they gone awry, like I know what's happening.
The only time it did was encephalitis, which I kept
thinking about. By the way, about pop tarts step why
I and if you guys don't understand A referenced the
damn book or at least that chapter. So so I
(05:53):
go the doctor and he's like, oh, you know, I
get you some cough syrup, which ps coding costs syrup
the elixir of the coffin gods, it's fantastic and it
can help you sleep. But so he's like, here, I'll
get you some coding cough syrup. And there's this nasal spray.
This nasal spray to like dry out da da da.
(06:13):
In the back, I said listen, I do. My body
responds really well to steroids, like I it just does.
He's this is better than steroids, and no, no, no, no, no,
you do this. Okay. The next day I was flat
on my back with yellow boogers everywhere. It's like it
did nothing. That is not what was supposed to happen.
(06:33):
So here's what I did. I got into my pill stash.
I'm already confessed the pill arder just in case. And
this felt apocalyptic, so it felt like it was worth
using it. I felt so bad that I was gonna die,
and so see what's happening. Sorry for the coffin everybody,
(06:55):
It's part of the it's part of the prize today.
So I went and I got my locks of cylin.
Then I had a little stash of and my present zone.
Guess who's alive today as a result. I am because
I know, I know my body, I know what works.
This was no different than what I've had most of
my life. And I said to the I said to
(07:16):
the doctor, I said, listen, I've had this countless times
in my lifetime, countless I know how this rolls. No,
you got to do this, and I'm like.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
That's rough. That's right, right, and what's that. Look, people
are trained and they have expertise where they have expertise,
but they don't have expertise over your history and your
body that you've had your whole life right to totally
agreet you got to you gotta know your body. You
gotta know how things feel, and you know, when we're
(07:51):
navigating the world, things feel the same way as they do.
Like when we take medicine, we know what it works,
what works or what doesn't, or consume oils. You can
feel when someone says, hey, what about this? You can
feel it in your body. That says my body said
when he said no, yeah, yeah boy. Your body will
(08:11):
tell you like something is just as niggling where it
doesn't land. And then when someone says something else, you're like,
oh my god, that tartli land. I can feel it.
This is great. Let's do it like you can feel
it when it's right for you. And if you can't
hold please, it's really all you have to say. I
won't get back to until I find something that I
feel comfortable going forward because they're and you know, look,
(08:31):
we don't get to control everything. I totally get that,
but no, but there are these options when we're given them,
when we can drop in and just pay attention and honor,
and it's really hard. It's really hard to disappoint people
to now go where they guide you and.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
Oh it is.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
It can be.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
It can be people you know, pleasers for sure.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Well it can be, which is very awkward. It's like
I'm holding everybody up or I'm just not sure, but
it's it just takes twice as long when you go
down the wrong path, when you betray yourself. But oftentimes
you're like that traice makes sense. I understand how you
got there, but I just don't feel it. And being
able to distinguish those two things is super important, super important.
(09:22):
I have had more than one conversation with medical experts
about like They'll say, hey, you just you know, take
this and I'm like, that's not gonna that's not gonna
work or that's it and they're like, no, that that
medicine or that supplement doesn't do that. I'm like, I'm
telling you that it's no again, Like I get in
(09:42):
general it doesn't, but for me, I was like you
with knowing the steroids, like when you know when you
can feel it, even if you can't articulate it, but
being able to support that path is super helpful, super critical.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
Yeah, it was just it's I also think, weirdly my
body he is now a programmed for it, if that
makes any sense.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
I mean I just think that it's like, oh, we
know this combo and as long as you don't do
the antibiotics too much, they'll keep working. And since I
looked at my last bottle, it was twenty eleven, I
haven't had I haven't had an antibotics quite at years.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
I don't know li about medicine and expiation, but that
seems to be out of date.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
Well, okay, so I have a friend that's a doctor.
Like everybody has a friend that's a doctor. Everybody needs
a doctor, a mechanic, and a plumber in their life.
So those are all life emergencies. And depending upon who
you are, you might need divorce lawyer. I've known some
of those that need those on speed dial. But anyway,
(10:43):
a funny when I'm sick, oh you're always number one sister.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Anything good win too.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
So my friend who's a doctor told me she's like
Julie because I told her I've been a pill hoarder
in my whole life. And I said, listen, I heard bills,
And she goes, here's the deal. She goes, it's fine,
she goes, they just lose potency over time. They don't
go bad, they lose potency. And so if you're me
it just double down. Oh don't tell me that I
(11:11):
was just joking. I really wanted to mess with you
really really bad.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Well, then we're going to take a break. We'll be
right back and welcome back. So what we're going to
do is just kind of tease out a little bit
a few of the ways that we like to or
(11:38):
that we're familiar with the ways people know. So some
of us know instinctually we run our lives this way
and it's super easy. Some people are like, well I
think I know, but I'm not sure I know. So
we're just going to talk about some options, some very
popular ones that people share with us that they, you know,
inspire us with their stories about how they know it's
and just hopefully we'll land with you. You'll have to
(12:00):
pay attention to your body and see how it lands,
and then also pay attention when you get stuck in
the intellectual loop or the rational loop, in your head
where you just like go through loop after loop and
like yeah, no that makes sense, and you try and
talk yourself out of or override your instincts. That's to me, right,
(12:21):
it's the danger zone. It's the danger zone.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
It's like you want to will it to be. It's
just not.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
And chances are it's it would probably be an easier
path for some socially acceptable reason, but it's never from
a soul level, it's never easier, it's never faster. So yeah,
so my favorite way when someone says something like it
literally lands in my heart and drops into my belly
like it's grounding me. Like that's how it feels. It's like,
(12:48):
oh yes, that feels so good, Like it just feels
really solid and like I'll have lots of energy to
support that path whatever it is, and fuel to you know,
ignite the vision and hold it and I can feel
like the smoothness of the path going forward, so I
get really excited and really engaged. That's how I know.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
That's the way that you know, you know, it's funny,
it's different things for different topics, so creatively, so creative endeavors,
that's exactly how it feels to me, like I can
feel it, and every cell in my body is like, yes,
let's go. For whatever reason. Sometimes it's because I need
the experience. It doesn't necessarily mean it's going to be
(13:30):
some you know, wild success of something. Sometimes it is,
but it's that there's that there's that get I get
lit up, and there's a knowing to.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
It, you know, for you, right, you can go in
unattached the outcome, but like there's something there, that's.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
There's something there. And when I have found there's usually
something there in everything. Yeah, so then there's that, right,
I think when it comes to like medical stuff. So
I'll just bring that back around again. When I'm not
really in touch with my body as much, you know,
I have to go into my head in a way,
(14:05):
not rationalizing, but I have to see things in my head.
I have a friend she sees things in red and green.
I mean, stop, go, that's how she does hers. I
have this, I have this invisible pendulum in my head
and that tells me yes or no, and I don't know.
(14:27):
And like so I just have a like a pendulum
that's like that's.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
It's like a red green for you.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
It is it is, but it's a pendulum, and I
think because I trust it more. I've tried different things.
You know, I've played games. I play games. I've done
things with scales. I've done all sorts of things. I've
done the yes or no, I've done the red and green. Nope,
(14:56):
it's pendulum for me. I've been let askew with the
other one.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
Interesting, interesting sometimes, and if it for me, if it's
not like a choice or something that I have to
make about my world, if it's just like, hey, do
you want to do this or what do you think
about engaging with this team in a certain way. If
it's a no, I don't see red like literally, white
feather will drop a feather. I was like, so I'll
(15:21):
see like this and it's a floating feather, just like
it's stopping me from going forward.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
Interesting.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
You know, I think we should wait until the team's
fully formed. I don't think it's time yet, Like you know,
I'll pivot to that or something. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
Oh, I like that. You get a feather. I need
something like a panther growl or something.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Yeah, but you wouldn't know if they were giggling or growling.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
So that's a really good point.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
I really like that yeah, and you're so good with
the pendulum, so I think I would just trust that
with everything.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
I kind of go with it.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
It works. Yeah, But I think a lot of people also,
they like they get the truth bumps on their arms.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
Yes, right, people do that. You know he does? That
is Shanna.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Oh yeah, And she called it.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
Wait, I've called them goosebumps my whole life. And she
had another word for.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
What it was.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
It was at dinner that night with her in Atlanta,
and she called them something else bumps, And I'm like, girl,
I've never heard of that. That word does not exist
except in Alabama.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
My friend, my friend Julie here in Cincinnati, she calls
them truth bumps. So that's yeah. I guess I usually
get those, not so much for myself, but when someone
else is telling me a story, that's so you know,
it could be a far fetched story.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
And I mean, like, I'm a pill hoarder. Did you
get the when I told you? You're like, okay, why
are you telling me in public that you are a
pill order? And my response is always, Margaret.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
I believed you that thousand percent is out of the gate. Okay,
I didn't doubt it for a minute, but like when
someone and that's when I get them, I'm like, oh
my gosh, I just have chills everywhere, like you know,
like I feel like it's a confirmation for them more
than it's it's about me. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
So I love that I have had that. I don't
know how they've come up, though. Did you've noticed for
about other people? I'm going to pay attention. I'm going
to take notes.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Yeah, it's it's fun. It's fun to pay attention. It's
funny because I did a reading this week where a
woman was talking about things were not going her way.
She was doing a renovation and nothing like appliances would
they install them and they didn't work and other things
like this. She couldn't get her momentum. And she's like,
(17:46):
there's bad juju. There's bad juju. There's bad juju. And
I'm checking with my guys. I'm like, there's no bad juju.
There is no bad joe Ju. This is just how
it's going. And so she's like seeing this pattern. And
because she's someone who's really good with resources and creating things,
and I mean, that's that's kind of her jam. So
(18:07):
when she runs into these challenges when you don't have
your guidance system set. You start telling stories, right. We
are sense making machines. We like to understand things. And
so the story she was telling was this is bad juju.
You got to tell me what's wrong. You got to
tell me what you know, what I need to do
because I'm just with this bad juju and I don't
(18:29):
know if it's me, if it's my husband. And I'm like,
why are you throwing your husband under the bus.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
He's great, I get that shit all the time, though, Bran.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
I know, but people, but I think, if this is
why we're talking about this, and make sure people understand
and take time to cultivate their own awareness. And it
can be the smallest subtle things. You're like ooh, I
got that right, Like like this is this is such
a small story. I recently went to Detroit for a
team session and obviously it's five hours north of media,
(19:00):
going to be colder, blah blah blah. And it's during
the week there it was a really cold week for spring,
and I was going to grab this little puffy jacket
and my guys are like, no, don't do that. And
as I'm walking out the door, like I'm heading to
the airport. Right, I'm like, Tina want me to take this,
I don't know why, Okay, whatever, And they want me
to take my full length cashmere coat with you know,
like this fur collar. I'm like, this seems like a
(19:21):
little overkill. Like we're in you know, we're in April.
Are you kidding me? I'm like, this seems overkill. I'm
not gonna I'm not going to question them, right, I'm
not going to question them. I'm just going to go
with this. And so I get on the plane, I'm like, fine, whatever,
and I'm thinking this is total overkill, but whatever. That night,
so one of my things is despite my sign I
talked about a few seconds ago where I have a
feather was my sign where I need feather free hotel rooms,
(19:47):
and it was missed on my reservation. So I'm in
a room filled with feathers. Like my eyes would have
been so swollen the next day. So I had to
strip down the bed and I get I have a
rap with me. Of course I always have a wrap, right,
And I called my wrap to use as my pillow,
and I put that coat over me and I was like,
(20:08):
that's why I made it my full length.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
Catch my coat oh my god, it was. But they
were right.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
They were right. So like as you don't even think
about it, You're like, I could have over illogically, I'm like,
this is overkill. I can just crunch down my puffy coat.
So the next day, when you know, I've got my
bag in the room with the team, it's not a
big deal. But I don't question it. I don't push
back on it.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
And I had one lesson in that, and I learned
it and it only cost me a pair of shoes.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
Well we're going with this as a cliffhanger. We'll be
right back, all right, and welcome back.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
Thanks.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
Sounds about thing.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
I will tell you. I learned to listen to my guides.
And let me tell you, it escalated from the shoes
very fast.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
But it was.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
It was one morning I and I'm looking at Sticky
right now because I don't think it was her. I
think it was Homer. Actually, I was getting ready to
leave and I had a pair of shoes out in
front of my closet and I heard put shoes weigh
and I'm like, no, nothing ever had never's happened. Da
(21:23):
da da da da dada. You know, it's that rationalizing
type of thing. It's like, no, you can't be right
me and the human body. I must be right. And
so I come home from work and when the damn
dogs ate one of my shoes. Oh, and I was like, now,
let's all keep in mind it just everybody knows I
(21:45):
am not a fancy shoe person. No one will ever
take payment for anything in life with my shoes. They
are like, I'll buy five of the same thing so
they can last me twenty years. Like shoes are not
a thing except keeping my feet off the pavement. So
I was like, oh shit, okay, you were right. I
will listen. And then not long after that, I was
(22:07):
told that there was going to be a car accident
and I was going to be in it. On the
four oh vibe like that happened very quickly. It was
like okay, bitch, we're gonna get you ready, So you
start like, yeah, pay attention. We're going to start with
the shoes and we're going to move on to your life.
Nothing in between, no passing, go, no connecting. Two hundred
(22:28):
dollars we got. It was literally it was, but it
was so like, so I listened and even if it
was let's just say for whatever reason that a dog
wouldn't have gotten my shoes. I still I still needed
to listen, you know, I mean they were going to
So it's like if you get something like, I'm also
very cross So I'm very weird about crossing sidewalks. Have
(22:51):
I told you about that? This is Julie's weird ass episode.
So she's still hoarder and she's the thing about crosswalks.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
The steroids are working people.
Speaker 3 (22:59):
The steroids are on fucking fire marble. So in nineteen
eighty eight, I was interning in Chicago and at a
place called Cat's Communication at four four four North Michigan Avenue.
Don't ask me why I remember that. Yeah, right, And
there was a guy that was trying to beat the lighter,
(23:22):
trying to do whatever he's trying to do. When he
starts sprinting.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Across Michigan Avenue, come on, people, exactly right.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
He got hit by a vehicle and was decapitated.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Ahh, So.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
Yeah, so I so I guess when it's your time.
But I've always been so weird, like I won't cross
if if the street is like a desert and the
light says red, I will not cross. Like that experience
led me to be so incredibly careful. And I also
(23:58):
ask like, cause you don't know when somebody's going to
take a turn, take a corner at lightning speed, and
else it doesn't even matter what the lights say because
drivers are nuts. And so I'm just so cautious. So
when I am at a crosswalk, I will ask, ye,
I'm smart. I'll even do in a little town like
I'm in right now.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
See, I love this because like, you know, where do
I need more information? This is my tender point? Where
do I need more information? And we have to be
able to discern that for ourselves, whether it's where am
I moving, what's you know, who's my partner, you know,
either romantically or business wise? You know, like you you
have to find your tender points and really bring in
(24:39):
your guidance and practice it on the little things, like
literally on my shoes. Right. So, on that same trip
to to TRD, I was coming home. There's a big
descending escalator coming down into the Cincinnata airport and you know,
and I'm getting off a plane and you know, just
kind of in a day, I get dazed on planes,
(24:59):
you know, coming out of it, and then I cry,
you cry, and I just kind of go into a
different state, so it come out like I've been meditating
for an hour and a half, you know. So anyhow,
and for some reason, I'm watching myself pull out my
sunglasses from my bag as I'm going down this escalator.
(25:19):
I'm like, this is so weird. Why am I putting
out my sunglasses. I'm like, okay, what what do I care? Right?
What do I care? I'm I gonna fight it, right,
what do I care? As I get to the bottom, right,
there's the little tram that's letting off a whole bunch
of people, and one of my former clients, who is
very elevated, is like we passed within six inch inches
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of each other. My hair was up like a bambam
on the top of my head. I had my sunglasses on,
I've got this full length cashmere coat that's you know,
swasted swaddling me like he couldn't he didn't recognize me
from anything, and I was just like I was in
no mood to run into him.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
Yeah, you did your cloak of invisibility that he's done
on me, but this was a times.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
But this my guys literally like put sunglasses on. I'm like, okay,
I put my sunglasses on. I have no idea. I
look like an idiot walking through a tunnel underground with
my sunglasses.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
Okay, you would all say, then it's just that.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
I'm just saying, and yeah, it was just the silliest thing.
And it just like this is this little confirmation between
me and my guys and it makes me giggle. But again,
it's all just a warm up and a ramp up
to those bigger things that we have, those bigger questions
we have so that we can stay dialed in. And
they're silly examples, whether it's shoes or sunglasses or whatever
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it is.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
But they're not that silly because honestly, those shoes led
to my life. I mean, like that's the thing that
I don't want people to forget. It's like it's trivial
as something may seem, but it's almost important. But it's
all the same.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
It's the same skill.
Speaker 3 (26:50):
It is the same skill. I was challenged to save
my shoes and I didn't and I learned.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
And you were also humbled. You're like, oh, I'm not
gonna make them, Oh.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
Completely humble for somebody that is such a smart mouth
and butthole that I can be I'm an incredibly humble butthole,
and it's like, I just and I know that it's
not all up to me. I mean, I have definitely
tried to force things and will things, God knows I have,
but I've learned to not right. It's like, oh, yeah,
that's a no, Julie, don't do that, or that's a yes,
(27:22):
that's okay for you to pursue x Y or Z.
The thing that though, I just before we close this,
I just think it's truly important for people because I
started with being sick illness, and I want to like
kind of quickly bring it back to that because I've
gotten a lot of questions, and I'm sure for everyone
I've gotten, you've gotten a thousand about like which oil
or which crystal can heal me? Yeah, I get that
(27:46):
a lot. I got during COVID. I had people say, well,
what's the best rock to keep COVID away? I said,
any rock will do, and just throw it at somebody
within six feet, you dumb ass. It's like, there's not
a rock that is going to save you from this
unless you throw it to somebody use it as a weapon.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
Can't sound clear, I mean, come on, okay.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
For clear, Yeah, clear, fine. And it's not that there
aren't energies that can help us. It's just that people
I've found want an answer like how I'll a pill holder,
I'll take a pill fix the problem. Here's a crystal
fix the problem. They don't like there's so much more
to it. And I think that's the part that I
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think in a in a in a future episode we'll
talk in more detail about. But I think it's important
for people just to kind of be like, oh, okay,
I get it. So the energy might be there for me.
I might need to work with it. I might actually
need to combine it with some Western medicine, some Eastern medicine,
some spirituality to try every effort that I can to
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fix whatever the hell's going on in my body or
in my mind. Versus think it's going to be like
buy a rock and you're done. That's not how it works.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
Well. I think there's also like a difference, and I
need to be open and receptive and almost a little
bit passive to receive guidance and you know, to activate
my instincts and my knowing, and then I have to
be accountable and take action for my frequency and my
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healing or whatever I'm creating, like, I think those are
those are different phases of creating your life, of creating
your solutions, of reclaiming your health, and so I think
that's an important awareness to have.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
I think some too, that makes it a ton of sense.
And I just I just want to caution folks that
a rock ain't gonna save your life unless you throw
it at somebody.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
With COVID They're going to cancel Claire and sign out
of here. Please do not start your crystals at.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
People, or if you do, make sure it counts.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
Crystals are too valuable to be thrown awagon, so you
can share them loveingly with others in soft, open palmed way.
But that's it.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
Can I lovingly hurl one like a baseball at somebody?
Did I do it lovingly?
Speaker 2 (30:06):
No yet?
Speaker 3 (30:07):
All right, I'm done with this episode. Let's go. HI.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
Thanks for listening everybody. We hope that you have some
more subtle ways to be open to receive your guidance.
Keep your heart open, pay attention to the signals your
body is giving you as you navigate at school, because
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Speaker 3 (30:25):
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Welcome to Insider's Guide to the Other Side, a production
of iHeartRadio. Hi, y'all, I'm Julie.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Hi there, I'm Brenda. Welcome to Insider's Guide to the
Other Side.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Now, y'all need to know that we are obsessed with
everything on the other side.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Yes, we are, because once you learn to navigate the energetic,
or to some the invisible world, life is going to
be more fun and much more serene.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Uh heck, yes it can, because, let's be honest, br in,
earth school is hard.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
In fact, you taught me.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
That let's crush Earth school together.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Well, hello, my witchy pooh, guess what, I'm fucking sick again.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Well that saves me asking you how you are?
Speaker 3 (00:53):
But how are you?
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Oh good, way better than I am.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
I'm so sorry. You sound all like it's just awful.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
Yea, it is not the first time and it's not
the last.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Well, don't you think though, like going through your first
spring in an area like you just have, you have
to set your kind of X bar in there.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
You know. I think I think what happened because it's
the full on sinus infection, which I have not had.
I looked on old pill bottles since twenty eleven.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Which means you've moved those like four times.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
Oh oh, have I not confessed I'm a pill hoarder
just in case. It's a little apocalyptic part of me.
So just why everybody that's shit's gonna keep happening? So yeah,
I am. So I'm like it is Philip with the
apocalyptic part. It just is. I can't help it. I
blame Margaret. Here's why I blame Margaret. She kept everything
(01:51):
until it expired, like beyond expiration. Like she had she
had Tabasco sauce that turned brown and she kept it
because it's fine. She would also go, no, I blame her.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
I just.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
And she would also she was like a single person
for a very long time, and she would go to
Sam's Wholesale Club when they first opened in Tulsa in
like the eighties, and she would load up on stuff.
So very honestly, So, I'm a pill hoarder. But anyway,
I haven't had this in a really long time. And
I and it started like a day it felt like alergy's.
(02:33):
The next day, I'm down. I mean, it hit hard.
And I also think, because this is also part of
this episode is about life choices, I think that I
have been exhausted in the last year from the move,
and I think it was a universe just knocking me
on my ass. And you know what, why don't you rest, bitch?
You meant busy and we're gonna knock you on your ass.
(02:55):
And I think sometimes that's what happens. Yeah, yeah, yeah, So.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
I am humbled and I have learned that lesson very
very very frequently.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
Yeah, I have no problems surrendering when I'm sick. Plus
I get it. And here's why. Streaming TV, I mean seriously,
it's like, oh my god, I don't I can't leave
the bed. I shouldn't leave the bed. In fact, for
five days I was in bed and did not hardly leave.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
And.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
I watched so much great stuff. So that's why I'm
not mad about being sick and in bed.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
And well, I mean, I feel like when I'm sick,
if I try and watch TV, I just fall asleep,
like I don't.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Watch Oh I do that. So here's the key. You
have to you just haven't watched enough stuff to rewatch anything.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
So I've watched so many things I can rewatch and
I can take a nap wake up like I rewatched Homeland.
Remember Homeland Blonde? Yeah, yeah, way to go, you got that, right?
I mean, everybody round of applause for Brenda because seriously,
it's worth it. So anyway, so yeah, I rewatched that
(04:16):
so I could fall asleep and like, you know, do
my little nappy nap, and then I got up and
I knew where it was.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
It's not fine, but I've seen Homeland in a hotel
and that's not something you fall asleep to.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
Well you can.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
It's so tense.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
It's very intense. It's very intense.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
That's why I only saw one episode.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
There you go, So what the hell are we calling
this episode?
Speaker 2 (04:38):
We are talking about life lessons, life.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
Lessons or choices. Life choices are life lessons life choices?
Speaker 2 (04:43):
I think both life choices, which means you're choosing different lessons.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
Oh, I got it. So can I tell you that
my latest one bring it with a doctor. Interestingly enough,
And you know I was always that kid. I'm sure
you were probably raised the same way. We're always raised
to respect intext do whatever they tell us to. Like
authority figures, right, I don't care if it's a cop,
a fireman, a doctor, a lawyer. That's how things kind
(05:08):
of went. Well, I threw that shit out the window. Yeah,
well I was but I threw it out the window.
And I threw it out a couple of weeks ago
when I went to the doctor. And because I go in,
I might have a cough, and obviously congestion is starting.
Da da da, because I know when something's coming on,
(05:29):
so less than number one is no your body right, yeah,
you feel it. You know your patterns, I totally know.
Very rarely have they gone awry, like I know what's happening.
The only time it did was encephalitis, which I kept
thinking about. By the way, about pop tarts step why
I and if you guys don't understand A referenced the
damn book or at least that chapter. So so I
(05:53):
go the doctor and he's like, oh, you know, I
get you some cough syrup, which ps coding costs syrup
the elixir of the coffin gods, it's fantastic and it
can help you sleep. But so he's like, here, I'll
get you some coding cough syrup. And there's this nasal spray.
This nasal spray to like dry out da da da.
(06:13):
In the back, I said listen, I do. My body
responds really well to steroids, like I it just does.
He's this is better than steroids, and no, no, no, no, no,
you do this. Okay. The next day I was flat
on my back with yellow boogers everywhere. It's like it
did nothing. That is not what was supposed to happen.
(06:33):
So here's what I did. I got into my pill stash.
I'm already confessed the pill arder just in case. And
this felt apocalyptic, so it felt like it was worth
using it. I felt so bad that I was gonna die,
and so see what's happening. Sorry for the coffin everybody,
(06:55):
It's part of the it's part of the prize today.
So I went and I got my locks of cylin.
Then I had a little stash of and my present zone.
Guess who's alive today as a result. I am because
I know, I know my body, I know what works.
This was no different than what I've had most of
my life. And I said to the I said to
(07:16):
the doctor, I said, listen, I've had this countless times
in my lifetime, countless I know how this rolls. No,
you got to do this, and I'm like.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
That's rough. That's right, right, and what's that. Look, people
are trained and they have expertise where they have expertise,
but they don't have expertise over your history and your
body that you've had your whole life right to totally
agreet you got to you gotta know your body. You
gotta know how things feel, and you know, when we're
(07:51):
navigating the world, things feel the same way as they do.
Like when we take medicine, we know what it works,
what works or what doesn't, or consume oils. You can
feel when someone says, hey, what about this? You can
feel it in your body. That says my body said
when he said no, yeah, yeah boy. Your body will
(08:11):
tell you like something is just as niggling where it
doesn't land. And then when someone says something else, you're like,
oh my god, that tartli land. I can feel it.
This is great. Let's do it like you can feel
it when it's right for you. And if you can't
hold please, it's really all you have to say. I
won't get back to until I find something that I
feel comfortable going forward because they're and you know, look,
(08:31):
we don't get to control everything. I totally get that,
but no, but there are these options when we're given them,
when we can drop in and just pay attention and honor,
and it's really hard. It's really hard to disappoint people
to now go where they guide you and.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
Oh it is.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
It can be.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
It can be people you know, pleasers for sure.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Well it can be, which is very awkward. It's like
I'm holding everybody up or I'm just not sure, but
it's it just takes twice as long when you go
down the wrong path, when you betray yourself. But oftentimes
you're like that traice makes sense. I understand how you
got there, but I just don't feel it. And being
able to distinguish those two things is super important, super important.
(09:22):
I have had more than one conversation with medical experts
about like They'll say, hey, you just you know, take
this and I'm like, that's not gonna that's not gonna
work or that's it and they're like, no, that that
medicine or that supplement doesn't do that. I'm like, I'm
telling you that it's no again, Like I get in
(09:42):
general it doesn't, but for me, I was like you
with knowing the steroids, like when you know when you
can feel it, even if you can't articulate it, but
being able to support that path is super helpful, super critical.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
Yeah, it was just it's I also think, weirdly my
body he is now a programmed for it, if that
makes any sense.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
I mean I just think that it's like, oh, we
know this combo and as long as you don't do
the antibiotics too much, they'll keep working. And since I
looked at my last bottle, it was twenty eleven, I
haven't had I haven't had an antibotics quite at years.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
I don't know li about medicine and expiation, but that
seems to be out of date.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
Well, okay, so I have a friend that's a doctor.
Like everybody has a friend that's a doctor. Everybody needs
a doctor, a mechanic, and a plumber in their life.
So those are all life emergencies. And depending upon who
you are, you might need divorce lawyer. I've known some
of those that need those on speed dial. But anyway,
(10:43):
a funny when I'm sick, oh you're always number one sister.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Anything good win too.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
So my friend who's a doctor told me she's like
Julie because I told her I've been a pill hoarder
in my whole life. And I said, listen, I heard bills,
And she goes, here's the deal. She goes, it's fine,
she goes, they just lose potency over time. They don't
go bad, they lose potency. And so if you're me
it just double down. Oh don't tell me that I
(11:11):
was just joking. I really wanted to mess with you
really really bad.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Well, then we're going to take a break. We'll be
right back and welcome back. So what we're going to
do is just kind of tease out a little bit
a few of the ways that we like to or
(11:38):
that we're familiar with the ways people know. So some
of us know instinctually we run our lives this way
and it's super easy. Some people are like, well I
think I know, but I'm not sure I know. So
we're just going to talk about some options, some very
popular ones that people share with us that they, you know,
inspire us with their stories about how they know it's
and just hopefully we'll land with you. You'll have to
(12:00):
pay attention to your body and see how it lands,
and then also pay attention when you get stuck in
the intellectual loop or the rational loop, in your head
where you just like go through loop after loop and
like yeah, no that makes sense, and you try and
talk yourself out of or override your instincts. That's to me, right,
(12:21):
it's the danger zone. It's the danger zone.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
It's like you want to will it to be. It's
just not.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
And chances are it's it would probably be an easier
path for some socially acceptable reason, but it's never from
a soul level, it's never easier, it's never faster. So yeah,
so my favorite way when someone says something like it
literally lands in my heart and drops into my belly
like it's grounding me. Like that's how it feels. It's like,
(12:48):
oh yes, that feels so good, Like it just feels
really solid and like I'll have lots of energy to
support that path whatever it is, and fuel to you know,
ignite the vision and hold it and I can feel
like the smoothness of the path going forward, so I
get really excited and really engaged. That's how I know.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
That's the way that you know, you know, it's funny,
it's different things for different topics, so creatively, so creative endeavors,
that's exactly how it feels to me, like I can
feel it, and every cell in my body is like, yes,
let's go. For whatever reason. Sometimes it's because I need
the experience. It doesn't necessarily mean it's going to be
(13:30):
some you know, wild success of something. Sometimes it is,
but it's that there's that there's that get I get
lit up, and there's a knowing to.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
It, you know, for you, right, you can go in
unattached the outcome, but like there's something there, that's.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
There's something there. And when I have found there's usually
something there in everything. Yeah, so then there's that, right,
I think when it comes to like medical stuff. So
I'll just bring that back around again. When I'm not
really in touch with my body as much, you know,
I have to go into my head in a way,
(14:05):
not rationalizing, but I have to see things in my head.
I have a friend she sees things in red and green.
I mean, stop, go, that's how she does hers. I
have this, I have this invisible pendulum in my head
and that tells me yes or no, and I don't know.
(14:27):
And like so I just have a like a pendulum
that's like that's.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
It's like a red green for you.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
It is it is, but it's a pendulum, and I
think because I trust it more. I've tried different things.
You know, I've played games. I play games. I've done
things with scales. I've done all sorts of things. I've
done the yes or no, I've done the red and green. Nope,
(14:56):
it's pendulum for me. I've been let askew with the
other one.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
Interesting, interesting sometimes, and if it for me, if it's
not like a choice or something that I have to
make about my world, if it's just like, hey, do
you want to do this or what do you think
about engaging with this team in a certain way. If
it's a no, I don't see red like literally, white
feather will drop a feather. I was like, so I'll
(15:21):
see like this and it's a floating feather, just like
it's stopping me from going forward.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
Interesting.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
You know, I think we should wait until the team's
fully formed. I don't think it's time yet, Like you know,
I'll pivot to that or something. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
Oh, I like that. You get a feather. I need
something like a panther growl or something.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Yeah, but you wouldn't know if they were giggling or growling.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
So that's a really good point.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
I really like that yeah, and you're so good with
the pendulum, so I think I would just trust that
with everything.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
I kind of go with it.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
It works. Yeah, But I think a lot of people also,
they like they get the truth bumps on their arms.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
Yes, right, people do that. You know he does? That
is Shanna.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Oh yeah, And she called it.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
Wait, I've called them goosebumps my whole life. And she
had another word for.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
What it was.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
It was at dinner that night with her in Atlanta,
and she called them something else bumps, And I'm like, girl,
I've never heard of that. That word does not exist
except in Alabama.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
My friend, my friend Julie here in Cincinnati, she calls
them truth bumps. So that's yeah. I guess I usually
get those, not so much for myself, but when someone
else is telling me a story, that's so you know,
it could be a far fetched story.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
And I mean, like, I'm a pill hoarder. Did you
get the when I told you? You're like, okay, why
are you telling me in public that you are a
pill order? And my response is always, Margaret.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
I believed you that thousand percent is out of the gate. Okay,
I didn't doubt it for a minute, but like when
someone and that's when I get them, I'm like, oh
my gosh, I just have chills everywhere, like you know,
like I feel like it's a confirmation for them more
than it's it's about me. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
So I love that I have had that. I don't
know how they've come up, though. Did you've noticed for
about other people? I'm going to pay attention. I'm going
to take notes.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Yeah, it's it's fun. It's fun to pay attention. It's
funny because I did a reading this week where a
woman was talking about things were not going her way.
She was doing a renovation and nothing like appliances would
they install them and they didn't work and other things
like this. She couldn't get her momentum. And she's like,
(17:46):
there's bad juju. There's bad juju. There's bad juju. And
I'm checking with my guys. I'm like, there's no bad juju.
There is no bad joe Ju. This is just how
it's going. And so she's like seeing this pattern. And
because she's someone who's really good with resources and creating things,
and I mean, that's that's kind of her jam. So
(18:07):
when she runs into these challenges when you don't have
your guidance system set. You start telling stories, right. We
are sense making machines. We like to understand things. And
so the story she was telling was this is bad juju.
You got to tell me what's wrong. You got to
tell me what you know, what I need to do
because I'm just with this bad juju and I don't
(18:29):
know if it's me, if it's my husband. And I'm like,
why are you throwing your husband under the bus.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
He's great, I get that shit all the time, though, Bran.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
I know, but people, but I think, if this is
why we're talking about this, and make sure people understand
and take time to cultivate their own awareness. And it
can be the smallest subtle things. You're like ooh, I
got that right, Like like this is this is such
a small story. I recently went to Detroit for a
team session and obviously it's five hours north of media,
(19:00):
going to be colder, blah blah blah. And it's during
the week there it was a really cold week for spring,
and I was going to grab this little puffy jacket
and my guys are like, no, don't do that. And
as I'm walking out the door, like I'm heading to
the airport. Right, I'm like, Tina want me to take this,
I don't know why, Okay, whatever, And they want me
to take my full length cashmere coat with you know,
like this fur collar. I'm like, this seems like a
(19:21):
little overkill. Like we're in you know, we're in April.
Are you kidding me? I'm like, this seems overkill. I'm
not gonna I'm not going to question them, right, I'm
not going to question them. I'm just going to go
with this. And so I get on the plane, I'm like, fine, whatever,
and I'm thinking this is total overkill, but whatever. That night,
so one of my things is despite my sign I
talked about a few seconds ago where I have a
feather was my sign where I need feather free hotel rooms,
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and it was missed on my reservation. So I'm in
a room filled with feathers. Like my eyes would have
been so swollen the next day. So I had to
strip down the bed and I get I have a
rap with me. Of course I always have a wrap, right,
And I called my wrap to use as my pillow,
and I put that coat over me and I was like,
(20:08):
that's why I made it my full length.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
Catch my coat oh my god, it was. But they
were right.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
They were right. So like as you don't even think
about it, You're like, I could have over illogically, I'm like,
this is overkill. I can just crunch down my puffy coat.
So the next day, when you know, I've got my
bag in the room with the team, it's not a
big deal. But I don't question it. I don't push
back on it.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
And I had one lesson in that, and I learned
it and it only cost me a pair of shoes.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
Well we're going with this as a cliffhanger. We'll be
right back, all right, and welcome back.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
Thanks.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
Sounds about thing.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
I will tell you. I learned to listen to my guides.
And let me tell you, it escalated from the shoes
very fast.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
But it was.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
It was one morning I and I'm looking at Sticky
right now because I don't think it was her. I
think it was Homer. Actually, I was getting ready to
leave and I had a pair of shoes out in
front of my closet and I heard put shoes weigh
and I'm like, no, nothing ever had never's happened. Da
(21:23):
da da da da dada. You know, it's that rationalizing
type of thing. It's like, no, you can't be right
me and the human body. I must be right. And
so I come home from work and when the damn
dogs ate one of my shoes. Oh, and I was like, now,
let's all keep in mind it just everybody knows I
(21:45):
am not a fancy shoe person. No one will ever
take payment for anything in life with my shoes. They
are like, I'll buy five of the same thing so
they can last me twenty years. Like shoes are not
a thing except keeping my feet off the pavement. So
I was like, oh shit, okay, you were right. I
will listen. And then not long after that, I was
(22:07):
told that there was going to be a car accident
and I was going to be in it. On the
four oh vibe like that happened very quickly. It was
like okay, bitch, we're gonna get you ready, So you
start like, yeah, pay attention. We're going to start with
the shoes and we're going to move on to your life.
Nothing in between, no passing, go, no connecting. Two hundred
(22:28):
dollars we got. It was literally it was, but it
was so like, so I listened and even if it
was let's just say for whatever reason that a dog
wouldn't have gotten my shoes. I still I still needed
to listen, you know, I mean they were going to
So it's like if you get something like, I'm also
very cross So I'm very weird about crossing sidewalks. Have
(22:51):
I told you about that? This is Julie's weird ass episode.
So she's still hoarder and she's the thing about crosswalks.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
The steroids are working people.
Speaker 3 (22:59):
The steroids are on fucking fire marble. So in nineteen
eighty eight, I was interning in Chicago and at a
place called Cat's Communication at four four four North Michigan Avenue.
Don't ask me why I remember that. Yeah, right, And
there was a guy that was trying to beat the lighter,
(23:22):
trying to do whatever he's trying to do. When he
starts sprinting.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Across Michigan Avenue, come on, people, exactly right.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
He got hit by a vehicle and was decapitated.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Ahh, So.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
Yeah, so I so I guess when it's your time.
But I've always been so weird, like I won't cross
if if the street is like a desert and the
light says red, I will not cross. Like that experience
led me to be so incredibly careful. And I also
(23:58):
ask like, cause you don't know when somebody's going to
take a turn, take a corner at lightning speed, and
else it doesn't even matter what the lights say because
drivers are nuts. And so I'm just so cautious. So
when I am at a crosswalk, I will ask, ye,
I'm smart. I'll even do in a little town like
I'm in right now.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
See, I love this because like, you know, where do
I need more information? This is my tender point? Where
do I need more information? And we have to be
able to discern that for ourselves, whether it's where am
I moving, what's you know, who's my partner, you know,
either romantically or business wise? You know, like you you
have to find your tender points and really bring in
(24:39):
your guidance and practice it on the little things, like
literally on my shoes. Right. So, on that same trip
to to TRD, I was coming home. There's a big
descending escalator coming down into the Cincinnata airport and you know,
and I'm getting off a plane and you know, just
kind of in a day, I get dazed on planes,
(24:59):
you know, coming out of it, and then I cry,
you cry, and I just kind of go into a
different state, so it come out like I've been meditating
for an hour and a half, you know. So anyhow,
and for some reason, I'm watching myself pull out my
sunglasses from my bag as I'm going down this escalator.
(25:19):
I'm like, this is so weird. Why am I putting
out my sunglasses. I'm like, okay, what what do I care? Right?
What do I care? I'm I gonna fight it, right,
what do I care? As I get to the bottom, right,
there's the little tram that's letting off a whole bunch
of people, and one of my former clients, who is
very elevated, is like we passed within six inch inches
(25:40):
of each other. My hair was up like a bambam
on the top of my head. I had my sunglasses on,
I've got this full length cashmere coat that's you know,
swasted swaddling me like he couldn't he didn't recognize me
from anything, and I was just like I was in
no mood to run into him.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
Yeah, you did your cloak of invisibility that he's done
on me, but this was a times.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
But this my guys literally like put sunglasses on. I'm like, okay,
I put my sunglasses on. I have no idea. I
look like an idiot walking through a tunnel underground with
my sunglasses.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
Okay, you would all say, then it's just that.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
I'm just saying, and yeah, it was just the silliest thing.
And it just like this is this little confirmation between
me and my guys and it makes me giggle. But again,
it's all just a warm up and a ramp up
to those bigger things that we have, those bigger questions
we have so that we can stay dialed in. And
they're silly examples, whether it's shoes or sunglasses or whatever
(26:37):
it is.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
But they're not that silly because honestly, those shoes led
to my life. I mean, like that's the thing that
I don't want people to forget. It's like it's trivial
as something may seem, but it's almost important. But it's
all the same.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
It's the same skill.
Speaker 3 (26:50):
It is the same skill. I was challenged to save
my shoes and I didn't and I learned.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
And you were also humbled. You're like, oh, I'm not
gonna make them, Oh.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
Completely humble for somebody that is such a smart mouth
and butthole that I can be I'm an incredibly humble butthole,
and it's like, I just and I know that it's
not all up to me. I mean, I have definitely
tried to force things and will things, God knows I have,
but I've learned to not right. It's like, oh, yeah,
that's a no, Julie, don't do that, or that's a yes,
(27:22):
that's okay for you to pursue x Y or Z.
The thing that though, I just before we close this,
I just think it's truly important for people because I
started with being sick illness, and I want to like
kind of quickly bring it back to that because I've
gotten a lot of questions, and I'm sure for everyone
I've gotten, you've gotten a thousand about like which oil
or which crystal can heal me? Yeah, I get that
(27:46):
a lot. I got during COVID. I had people say, well,
what's the best rock to keep COVID away? I said,
any rock will do, and just throw it at somebody
within six feet, you dumb ass. It's like, there's not
a rock that is going to save you from this
unless you throw it to somebody use it as a weapon.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
Can't sound clear, I mean, come on, okay.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
For clear, Yeah, clear, fine. And it's not that there
aren't energies that can help us. It's just that people
I've found want an answer like how I'll a pill holder,
I'll take a pill fix the problem. Here's a crystal
fix the problem. They don't like there's so much more
to it. And I think that's the part that I
(28:28):
think in a in a in a future episode we'll
talk in more detail about. But I think it's important
for people just to kind of be like, oh, okay,
I get it. So the energy might be there for me.
I might need to work with it. I might actually
need to combine it with some Western medicine, some Eastern medicine,
some spirituality to try every effort that I can to
(28:48):
fix whatever the hell's going on in my body or
in my mind. Versus think it's going to be like
buy a rock and you're done. That's not how it works.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
Well. I think there's also like a difference, and I
need to be open and receptive and almost a little
bit passive to receive guidance and you know, to activate
my instincts and my knowing, and then I have to
be accountable and take action for my frequency and my
(29:19):
healing or whatever I'm creating, like, I think those are
those are different phases of creating your life, of creating
your solutions, of reclaiming your health, and so I think
that's an important awareness to have.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
I think some too, that makes it a ton of sense.
And I just I just want to caution folks that
a rock ain't gonna save your life unless you throw
it at somebody.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
With COVID They're going to cancel Claire and sign out
of here. Please do not start your crystals at.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
People, or if you do, make sure it counts.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
Crystals are too valuable to be thrown awagon, so you
can share them loveingly with others in soft, open palmed way.
But that's it.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
Can I lovingly hurl one like a baseball at somebody?
Did I do it lovingly?
Speaker 2 (30:06):
No yet?
Speaker 3 (30:07):
All right, I'm done with this episode. Let's go. HI.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
Thanks for listening everybody. We hope that you have some
more subtle ways to be open to receive your guidance.
Keep your heart open, pay attention to the signals your
body is giving you as you navigate at school, because
remember her, school.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
Is hard without hurling a crystal ep people on the
other side, and without the other Side. That's what I'm
meant to say.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
Okay, thank you, Hi everybody. Thank you for joining us. Everyone,
and a special thanks to our producer Joey Patt and
our executive producer Maya Cole Howard, who guides us well
we guide you.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
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Speaker 2 (31:02):
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Speaker 3 (31:07):
And remember, our school is.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
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