October 16, 2019 • 50 mins
Julie Reiger interviews Brenda Villa and discovers this good witch’s ancestors were once cursed by a village witch in rural Mexico. It also becomes very clear why Julie reveres Brenda so highly as her spiritual and psychic mentor and healer.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hi, y'all, I'm Julie. Hi there, I'm Brenda. Welcome to
Insider's Guide to the Other Side. Now y'all need to
know that we're obsessed with everything on the other side.
Yes we are, because once you learn to navigate the energetic,
or to some the invisible world, life is going to
be more fun and much more serene. Heck, yes it can,
(00:25):
because let's be honest, brand earth School is hard. In fact,
you taught me that. Let's crush Earth School together. Welcome
to Insider's Guide to the Other Side. A production of
I Heart Radio. Welcome everyone. Oh ship, that was really loud.
I think we should keep that. Don't edit that out
because that's gonna wake everybody. So if it's sebody's listening
(00:47):
at six am, it will be their alarm. Is me saying, well,
heart attack are fine? Fine? So before we get started,
I just have to because you know how to like
to confess something once an episode in every episode, sometimes
multiple confessions. But this confession, I think everybody needs to know.
Today's picture day, picture day, and it is your nightmare
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day is picture day, and it's also mine. Because I
feel like a drag queen. I never wear makeup she
has I do, and I hate masscarre. Oh my god,
it's like I can't see, I can't. Um, but I
it is my nightmare because I don't. I don't. I
don't wear makeup. I rarely actually brush my hair, and
(01:28):
I have nightmares from old picture days. Who are you?
You don't brush you? Ba? Margaret would not be no,
no Margaret. She's gonna show up, isn't she? And she
shows up? But let us all know, do your well?
I get the impression that Margaret thinks you should brush
your hair, Julie. Um, But I when I was five
to say, you know, my mom sold school pictures. So
(01:50):
when you say picture day then been something completely different
than that meant you're going out for dinner. Bunny was
coming out right. So I cut my hair, my own
hair when I was five, Picture day, Yeah, unsupervised. Unsupervised,
I cut my own hair. I did not do that today.
So I didn't want to embarrass you with that. Alright,
(02:11):
So today's picture day. Everybody needs to know. We're both
terribly uncomfortable with it, and I feel like I can
barely move. Um. But so what we're gonna do is
we are going to get to know Brenda today, and
today is actually called Brenda the Good Witch. Actually it's
really called Brenda the Hot Witch. You guys will see
because at the Glam Squad, because you'll see when you
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see the photos that Renna is one hot witch. So
that is actually what's going is officially going to be
Brenda the Hot Witch, not good Witch. UM. So I
have to another confession. We're two confessions in and we're
not even a couple of minutes in, but I'm one
of the luckiest fuckers in the world, um to know you. UM,
(02:52):
and I think that everyone should know that you. Um.
You kind of saved me in so many ways. And
one is I'm funny today because of you, because I
was grieving so hard when we met and you really
helped me through that process. And I've gotten to know
you so well over the years, and I think everybody
else should get to know you. So what we're gonna
do is invite you all in to get to know
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Brenda the Hot Witch. Yeah, I'm saying it, I am
because part of my job, I think with this is
to make you uncomfortable just in life in general, because
we grow right through discomfort. Um. So we're going to
start with a brand new segment that I want to
call Silly Ask Questions. I bet nobody else no podcast
has a segment called Silly Ask Questions. But I think
(03:35):
that we will be the first. And because its Silly
Asked Questions, I encourage everybody at home to play along.
So our first Silly Asked Questions to get to know
Brenda the good slush hot? Which um? And you can
only pick one when we go through this brand? Are
you ready? I'm ready to just pick one? All right?
If you had to choose New York or l A,
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who would you choose? New York, the land of p
It smells like you're in You have to unpack that.
You can't just say in August. It smells a lot
like you're on the sidewalk. That's why that's actually true.
It is true. All right, So you picked New York?
All right? My brother took me there when I was
a teenager and I just fell in love with it.
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Can you tell me how to ride the subways? All right?
That's fair. There's no subway really in l A. So
there's a very small one, but no, it's not. It's terrible. Actually,
the worst public transportation and nice States of America. Um.
Second question, rom calm or horror. Okay, having a horror
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wrong com. First of all, it has to be a
classic rom calm. It has to be you know, worthy
of watching. And I don't do horror ever. Chicken, I know,
I have no chicken ships. Although you sent me the
script for a horror movie. You me recall I did
Poulter Guys right, and I my response to you was,
(05:03):
that was so funny. I thought it was a common Well,
I actually what I thought was so interesting, um, because
I could write a book about things I've learned from you.
Oh wait, I did. But one of the things that
I learned from you, um about horror movies was when
actors are playing these parts, the other side doesn't know
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we're acting. Right. So note to self, everyone, be very
prepared and protect yourself if you are an actor actress
in a horror film or even on a play or
something like that, because energetically right. So an example, for example,
we have a friend who is a Broadway actor and
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he was playing a role that he commits suicide. The
role commits suicide by hanging. And this is not a
fun story I'm gathering. Um, I can't remember what it is.
It Greece that has someone that it's actually it was
a great trying. I think it was Greece that was
someone who commits this, not the country, but the musical,
the musical. Thank you. I'm here to help, thank you.
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And so we were having dinner with our deer from
Paul and super talented, super seasoned professional, and he's like,
I've never had this problem before, but I'm having problems
with my voice. You know, I'm doing NHHO was a
week and the run's going great, but you know, I'm
having this in my throat and that never has happened before.
I'm like, yeah, that's because energetically, you are tying a
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noose around your neck eight days a week. And so
we cleared up the pattern and he never had a
problem after that. So I mean, this is real. It's
a real thing. Yeah. So if you are in a
situation like this, called Brenda or just can help you
tell your energy field like this is pretend and then
cancel clear after each performance. Right, So that's where you
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don't like horror, Well, I just just there's alright, fine,
school is hard enough. Our next question of silly ask
questions uh, Yoga or Yoda, they are the same. You
pick one the rules, you pick one, they are the
same option. You pick one. One is a creature, one
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is a cult. When you think what Yoda says, it
is absolutely the same thing any Yogi would say. So
it's the same one. No, No, I should ask you.
I should ask you the hard questions that I had before,
and we'll get to those later. Yeah, we will get
to those. But he's bullshit. Had to pick one, same option. Fine, Okay,
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so now it's time for a quick round of what's
your favorite? I promise we'll get into more serious stuff.
I can we along here, folks, But this part I think,
even though we're getting to know Brenda better, it's more
to humor me. Um, all right, you can only answer
one of these is truth? Right? Um? Favorite TV psychic
or favorite TV which I will give you a broader
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option than TV psychic have options? I like you have options.
So favorite TV Psychic. First of all, you have to
pay homage to John Edward, because he was putting himself
out there in a way that made the work we
do accessible and not scary. And he's an amazing talent.
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So all those things are absolutely true. So number one, Well,
he's one. He's absolutely high in the list. And then
I grew up with Bewitched Elizabeth Montcom and you talk
about a sexy witch. Oh my god. She was so
hot and so playful and so um you know, just awesome.
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And she had a twin herself. I mean it doesn't
want to And I also grew up with like this.
My mom is so great, and she would literally say
to me, you can be anything you want when you
grow up. And I would lay him in and say,
I wish I were bewitched. I wish I were bewitched.
I wish I congratulations for that's where you are. You
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are in a podcast booth, and I heard radio talking
about psychic ship, So I think you want I think
your mom was right, Sandy go Sandy. Alright, So next question,
your favorite movie psychic Oh well, there's the only one, right,
there's only one. Oh yeah, I know who it is.
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But we'll give everybody a brief pose at home if
they can guess who the only one is. One to
three Okay, now say your answer yes to Brown. Yes,
and Ghost so so insane, so perfect. She was so
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great in that movie. And if anybody who's listening hasn't
seen that movie. You probably shouldn't even be listening to
the podcast, because I think that's a prerequisite to listen
to our show is to have watched ghosts favorite musical,
So you exclue, would be an American to not say
Hamilton's at this point? Oh you would? Yeah? Really okay,
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But before Hamilton's I would have to say Wicked Girl Power.
Oh I like that, and it was actually open. So
I'm gonna add another question on for you have a
favorite musical that was a movie. I don't really like
them when they're transferred. I can't say Greece. We just
said Greece before, but that went the other way. It
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was a movie. And then, oh my god. Okay, I'm
gonna stick to the damn questions I had. Alright, fine,
what's your favorite? Not you true? Obviously salted roasted Mecademia nets.
You do love this? I love this? Alright? Favorite singer
Stevie Nicks, Yes, the welch Witch right in. Another prerequisite
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I think to listen to her is Stevie Nicks. I
love her so much. Gee, there anybody else on your list?
I mean, I'll I'll give you a couple for for favorite,
too many to Dolly Parton. You wouldn't put Dolly Parton
on there, absolutely, I mean a little bit nine to
five you know. Oh you love that right? Yeah? I
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like sleeping singing on the double bed. Yeah, I won't
sing for everybody yet. All right, Favorite, it's too really right?
Favorite color? Okay, that's a duff. For those of you
have ever met word, Um, favorite thing in your closet.
I have red moccasins that I love. My answer would be,
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I've been at the closet for so many years, don't
even know what's in it. Okay, so we're gonna get
onto more. Um, wait, you know what actually have before
we go on? And you have to because you know this.
I do have something favorite that is in my closet
that you have seen a photo of. Photo I was
just gonna say, and in a bathroom stall in Las Vegas.
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It's getting good, folks, it's the X rated version. Well,
we're always explicit, so might as well say I have
a pair of Andy's that on the back say it
ain't going to spank itself because it won't. It won't.
It's like a true statement. You have to help people
out I do need each other, right and so now
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when I wear those, my heinie has instructions, um, and
they're legit instructions because it's not going to spank itself.
So it's a people actually see those instructions. That's my question. Well,
you know what I want to know? Possibly a lot,
Definitely our gardeners, possibly a pool guy and Verst sure
FedEx because of all the Amazon boxes I get. Okay,
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so I think actually there's quite a crew out there
that see that it will not spank itself. Okay, We're
going to get on to more real questions about you.
So thank you for indulging me everyone, and uh the
fun part of it for me. Um. So but let's
start like really dive in. And you know, I think
let's like kind of take the clock back two. When
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did you first realize that you had abilities that were
unlike other people? And my abilities I don't mean you can,
like you know, make a good dish or do laundry,
I mean abilities, um, your psychic abilities. So um, it's
such a great question and I get asked this, thank
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you a question a lot, but this is this question
really is um more about when I learned that other
people didn't see spirits. Okay, so because because that's how
I came to this planet. And so you think, you know,
you think you're like everyone else, Like when you think
about the household, you grew up in the sort of
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secrets that your house had, and and you didn't even
know they were secrets until you get out in the world.
I didn't know people drink coffee. My mom didn't drink coffee.
I didn't never the coffee was the thing, because in
my house, it's not a big deal. Why is everyone crazy?
Why about this thing? Now? I get it. It's about
It's about the world you grow up in. Yeah, exactly,
So my world. I saw spirits very young. One of
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the first memorable ones is when we were driving, so
three kids, mom and dad in the front seat, three
kids in the back seat. It was a station wagon,
so right, so one of those where you put the
way back down and you put the back seat down
some national lamp like exactly, and so we are, you know,
rolling down driving from Wisconsin to Texas in August with
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no a C. Did they hate you? Did your parents
hate your shouldren? Because that's the only reason you would
do that back in the day. But my dad's My
dad worked on the academic year. So that's when we
took location. Right. So so and I said, we're rolling
down the highway and I am, you know, there's coloring
books and crans and regular books and you know, there's
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all you know. So we got this like campground in
the back of the seat, and I had a feather
pillow that burst. My Dad's driving through you know, rush
hour traffic, and he is hot. He is piste about
this feathers everywhere he couldn't see, and you know, for
not long, but for a very intense time, it was mayhem.
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It was just mayhem. And I couldn't stop giggling. I
thought it was the funniest thing in the world. And
my dad is railing, like I did it on purpose, right,
This wasn't my fault. I would have done it on purpose.
That is actually true, and that was totally true. I
would have totally done bullshit like that. And so when
the feathers cleared, I remember seeing these little balls of
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light and I think of them as energy balls, and
they would form and come towards me and float away
and get bigger and get smaller and turn colors. And
so I think of them, just his energy balls, and
so I was playing with them and engaged like just
in a distracting way, like it was like a little
old for it was probably five. So you're doing acid
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when you were what you're telling everybody is that you
were doing assets. It's exactly what I meant. That's what
I thought. I said that, except except no acid, just
no feathers, and it was just it was just this
um this. It was like a head of playmate, right,
And so I was playing for hours. The spirit made
you feel better, yeah, and they just came to like
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because I was feeling bad. Hey, I lost my pillow.
So that sucked. And my dad was really mad at
me and said that sucked. And they said, hey, that
was a good time. Oh my god, I love that
was really sweet. So when did other people know that
you had or actually, when did you know that other
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people didn't have the same gifts? I'm gonna ask my
question better, okay, because I know the answer. So it
was unfair. There's a story, and I love the story
of when you realize that other people didn't see what
you saw. Yes, I think I ain't great if you
told everybody that story. So if you fast forward a
couple of decades. So I'm in college and so um,
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so you're educated hot which so I've an educated wait
which and amzing I made that happens playing? So you know,
we're hanging out on the dorm room and it's Friday night.
There's wine, there's food, there's you know, we're hanging out
and we're talking and we're telling funny stories. And I say,
and don't you love it when the spirits do this?
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And the room goes silent. There's like the first time
in hours there's the room has been silent, and it's
totally silent, and they all turned and look at me.
And finally someone says how much have you had to drink?
And I was like, oh, never mind. And then the
next morning they're like, wasn't that funny when you said that?
And I'm like, oh, I don't remember saying it. I
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just you know, like I was drunk, yeah, you know,
And it never came up again. And so I learned
very quickly this is not something we talked about. Okay,
so your college, so it took that long, yeah for
you to kind of figure I mean, I get it.
It's it's like I was I did not know that
there were other Lettuces other than Iceberg, and so I
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was twenty five. That's more of a distribution. But the
same principle applies, is that if you don't know, you
don't know. If we've talked before, right, that I am
more introverted, and so I'm more are just me too,
I'm a little more close. I'm just a little more quiet.
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So if someone doesn't ask me to question, sometimes I
won't be a little chatterbox. But so you know, I
just never brought it up, that's all. So did you
okay not bring it up? And being somewhat of an introvert,
did you learn in your life if anybody else in
your family has the same abilities, then um, yes, my mom.
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My mom is very intuitive and you know, during the seventies,
during this sort of time when sort of being in
touch with psychicness or esp was kind of hot, Like
she had some books and I think she maybe, yeah,
kind of took a class. Yeah, and they're just disorganized.
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And this is one of my favorite stories about my
mom's in tuition because she uses it all the time
and it's it's a guiding force for her and she
pays attention. She's really good at that. So in there
was the l A earthquake, right, Um that happened over
a holiday weekend and during that time, it was north
Ridge earthquake. Thanks for those that are playing at home, Yes,
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that was a Northbridge earthquake in its yeah, no, no doubt. Right.
So that weekend I was visiting my brother and his
wife who lived in l A. And my brother was
sick at the time and I wanted to spend every
minute with him that I could. And during our weekend together,
we you know, we just had a ball. We had
people over, we went to you know, had a game,
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had a party, lots of food, that's of fun. And
during this event, his two little Yorkies that are the
sweetest dogs in the world, they started fighting like you know,
play growling, but like really biting each other, like aggressive
at the throat, like like like going for I was like,
what is going on. That's not right, that's not right.
That's like when I don't have sugar noted it's true.
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So um, so I knew like something was on edge.
And then I you know, I just felt like something
wasn't right. And so I didn't know what it was
because there was a lot going on, and you know activity.
But I said to my brother Mark, I said, I'm
I'm going to leave early. I'm going to leave tomorrow
instead of Monday. So I'm gonna leave on Sunday because
the dogs were fighting, well, because something was off. I
just all I said to him was I just have
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to get back. And she was so loving and so cool.
He's like, sure, of course, we'll take you. We'll take you,
and so um off. I go to the airport and
I'm standing in line to change my ticket because it
was no American Airlines app or Delta app available, so
I have to change my ticket. And as I'm standing
in line, you know that rumbling that happens on the
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earth when a big truck drives by. I do so
I feel that and I'm just standing there randomly, and
I turned around to see the truck that's flying driving by,
and of course there's no truck, there's nothing there, and
I just kind of noted that I'm not from a
place that has earthquake, so it wasn't in my consciousness.
Did you think other people felt that or did you
just have that since that you felt like you got
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the vibration. I got the vibr vibe, but no, no
one else moved, no one else did anything. Um, and
so I've fly back to I lived in Dallas at
the time, and my boyfriend at the time, I lived
close to the airport, so I got in late, and
so I just went to his place instead of going
home because it was a holiday weekend. So we could,
you know, have like brunch tomorrow the next day, just
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to set the stage for everybody. Was it DFW or
was it love Field? I lived in Dallas, Like wait,
I hope we have people that are listening that are
from Dallas and they want to hear their airports. It
is DFW. Thank you, thank you, thank you for clarifying
and bringing clarity to my story in my pleasure. So
so I'm saying south of DFW, and and you know,
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having my holiday weekend, I thinking and think of it. Meanwhile,
the earth is literally shaking that morning. It's it's swallowing
Los Angeles. Yeah, it's really really not good. And I
have no idea because I'm not paying attention and kind
of off the grid sort of it. And my mom
is in Wisconsin, sandy, and she wakes up at the
time of the l a earthquake and know something's wrong.
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So she turns on the television and unbeknownst to me,
she can't call Mark and Anna because the phone lines
are up, and she so and she can't call me,
or she called me on left messages. I'm home but
no cell phones. So she calls my work and they're like, oh,
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she's missing her brother in l A. She's like, ah.
But when I finally got ahold of my mom, which
was midday on Monday, she says her words were, I
couldn't see you in l A. I couldn't see you
in l A. So she was like remote viewing effect right.
She wouldn't not use those she wouldn't use those word
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she was remote viewing, right, And so she was saying this,
she said, I I know we're going to say goodbye
to Mark early because he was HIV positive, but I
wasn't ready to lose you, and I just couldn't deal.
Like she was flipping out thinking that I wasn't there,
Like she was scanning l A. She didn't think to
Scanford and Dallas. Why would why would I ever leave
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my brother early? Right, except Mama Andy got some gifts.
That's just one example. But she got a lot of gifts.
So that's it. And now, wait, don't you have Are
there no other relatives that have these gifts? I don't know,
like well or have they encountered. We grew up on
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the Texas Mexican border, and there are lots and lots
of stories coming out of that environment. So that was
one of So my my dad comes from a family
of eight children. And they found in the river bed
where they would like should be beguns, right, So they're
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going to the river and they're talking and you know, playing,
their kids playing, and they found two dolls, like voodoo dolls.
Like I didn't say that word, you did, and I
did not see them, but they had these two these
two dolls that were um wired together, wrapped together, facing
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each other, and they didn't know what to do, but
they knew that it was the village, which they knew
it was her work, and so they left it. But
somehow she knew that they were there. And so when
they came back to check on it a little while later,
and now granted their kids, the dolls were still there,
but they were tied back to back and they had
no more children. Oh my god, that's crazy. Okay, so
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then you're saying, I'm gonta summarize that one. The village
which messed with your family? Oh my god, Wow, that's incredible. Okay,
so Mom's sandy village which we've a which rest is
so great. So you know you have all these gifts,
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when did you decide to move forward with them or
like to make it to make them heightened, to practice
learn more? Really, what um when I came out of
NBA school is when I decided I just want to
note everybody that Brenda has an NBA. So when I
came out of school graduate school, I was ready to
find a tarot teacher, is really what happened. So I
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found my my tarot teacher, and I had three lessons
over six months, and then I was ready to go.
And so I started reading for friends dinner parties. I
was a very popular guest, and so I would read
for these dinner parties and have such a great time.
And it was so much fun because we have party tricks.
Are people have party tricks? Out great party tricks? I mean,
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so those of you that have some psychic abilities, you
are always welcome up parties. The only thing I would
say is that for me being the sensitive one, right,
I prefer when people come see me before they've had alcohol.
Oh I love the boozer are actually my favorite ones.
People there are my people, and especially when I've had it,
because I can see people's spirit animals, and so if
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I start time one on, I mean I see a zoo,
It's fantastic. But this isn't about me. Go did tarr classes?
Took a lot of them. I did three. That's a
lot three lessons. And then so when then I got
transferred to Cincinnati into my my finance role, Brandy was corporate.
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I was corporate corporate, which so one day my guides
literally drove me from the headquarters to this neighborhood I've
never been in before, says Cincinnati is nestled between seven hills.
So they drove me up one of the hills and
parked me in front of a shop and I'm like,
can you walk in? And this woman says, can I
help you? I'm like no, I'm just looking like I
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had no idea what I was looking for, and it
was to maybe like three rooms, and so I'm walking
around looking at everything in this small three room shop
because I know I'm there for a reason, but I
don't know what it is. So finally I wander So wait,
so this is before then you really got connected with
your guides, Like and I knew my guides, but I
knew them at that time, but they weren't individualized like
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I knew I had guidance. So I'd hear things, I'd
see things, I'd kind of like you got sense, right,
sense things, but you were not as connected to them
but as you were today. So I'm in this shop
and I walk around, and I know that there's something
there for me, but I don't know what it is.
So finally I get to the back little room and
in the furthest corner there's this door, and in the
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doorway with a thumb tack stuck into the door with
this little recipe peak card that says readings Friday and
Saturday night. And I was like, oh my god, I'm home.
I found a place to do readings. I was so excited,
I think I floated back to the front room where
the clerk was and I said, Hi, just motive from
Cincinnati or from from Dallas, and I really I'm a reader.
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I'm looking for a place to read. Any chance that
you have openings for readers and she's like, oh, darling,
we've had the same readers for twenty years. I think
we're good. Thanks so much, and I, you know, kind
of get this push from behind me that says okay.
So I reached into my bag and I pull out
the only card I have, which is my Proctor and
Gamble Financial Analyst card that to me, is like a
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joke card. I mean, if I wanted to go mess
with people and say here, meet Brenda and I would
hand them that card. It's like I'm playing a prank.
I don't know. It's so good, right, And so I
handed this card and I say, look, if something changes,
please give me a call. And she's like, oh sure,
I will absolutely thank you. Like, no, for real, I
need you to do this is what I was thinking
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in my head because I knew I was there for
a reason. And turn up a week later, not ten days,
like a week later, I get this call that says,
you're not going to believe this, but one of our
readers is moving to Florida. I'm like, yes, I do
believe that. And so then she asked me to come
up and do an audition reading. And of course, you
know I panicked a little bit, like what is that
auditional audition reading? Like, how's that different from a regular reading? Oh?
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My god, what if I failed? What if I don't
wake the calls? You know, you get those little voices right? No, actually,
do not know what you're talking about. Actually most humans
might get that. So I go and I do this
reading and I give her, you know what I think
is a great reading, just straight down the middle, really nice,
and she seems pleased with it. So I'm the reading
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is over, and I'm picking up my cards and shuffling them,
and I just asked her, very casually, I said, you know,
just one question, what are you going to do with
that young man that's your family doesn't know about? And
she looks at me and she says, you're hired. I
have the class deserves a clap. That's fantastic. That's fantastic.
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So have you had any trade education training? Yeah? Absolutely,
for so many um, so many great teachers. UM I
had meditation teacher, a number of them. And but most
of my deep, deep studies have been at Camp Chesterfield,
which is a spiritualist camp in Indiana. So at this camp,
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do you macromay? Because that's what we did a camp. No, No,
it's kind of like that, but different because macromy is awesome.
Now did they make you peanut butter and jelly sandwiches
or did they feed you like the ara vetic kind
of stuff that I don't like? Well, I would say
that the food is not the highlight of Camp Chesterfield.
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It wasn't what I was there. Well, I need to
work with them because I can help them with their
extracurricular activities. And you love because they have spirit art.
So you go to meditation and new draw what they
what they show you, and you have development classes and
do there's astrology and numerology. Did you do spirit art?
I did not do spirit art. I want to go
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do spirit art. Okay, we'll go to spirit art together. Amazing.
And then of course there's there's all kinds of classes,
prayer classes and meditation classes and religion classes, and I mean,
I'm back at I'm still stuck on spirit art. I
did not hear a word of commander your mouth after that,
because I have to listen to the playback. I will,
but all I heard was spirit art. And I keep
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seeing all these things in my head that I really
want to go do so I think that we need
to do that together. So you're trained, I think, is
the answer to that, and then we'd have great seances.
And then you give like flower messages and I'll kinda
can we lift a table? Do they do that? Do
they left tate? They don't do table tip screwed camp feeling,
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and there are no peanut butter jelly serving macromay making
camp um. So I also know that the work that
you do UM can be very intense. I mean, can
you of course, there's messages and things that happen when
you look at somebody, say, so, what you got to
do about that young man? Your family doesn't know about that?
Stuff happens. But there's also there is depth and and two,
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I think what you have experienced there's been death when
I've experienced So if I've experienced depth, and I'm like
a bathtub compared compared to your ocean of psychic abilities,
it's totally like that. Don't listen to her, people seriously
listen to me. Don't listen to her, UM. But what
is what is like? What's some of the most intense
stories are experiences that you've had because you are so sensitive.
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I think for me, personally that the two like global
kind of events that really like just kind of entered
my sphere. My nervous system was eleven. Like the week
before nine eleven happened in the US, I was so
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on edge. I couldn't sleep, I was I was snippy,
I was edgy like your brother's dogs before I was
like yeah, I was like, I mean, I'm actually not joking.
No that I joke a lot, but that is not
to me a joke. It's like that's when you start
paying attention to yourself and you there's these changes and
you get snippy, lack a Yorkie. Something's gonna happen, something,
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something's gone down, and it was and and the thing
is like you you do feel a little crazy, like
like you're like, oh my god, I don't know what's
wrong with me. Like I'm doing all the tools that
I know to do that that help, and I'm taking
care of business. So it's not like I'm on edge
or stressed because of external stuff. But what is it?
Like there's something not right, it's just not right, and
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you can't you can't settle it no matter what. And um,
and then of course not eleven happened and then after that,
like the month after all in the dream state. I
I have specific memories of helping spirits reunite in the
dream stay with their loved ones for the last goodbye.
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And so that went on for another month, So it
was like six weeks. I was just trashed. Yeah, and
then I think there was also the tsunami because I
didn't know you n eleven, but I knew you. We
were friends during the tsunami and um, Thailand. Yeah it was,
it was, really it was, and I was home and
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I again it was it's just that edginess, can't sleep, um,
just feeling like in the like the nervous systems just
running raw and didn't know what it was and didn't
know what it was and didn't know what it was. Yeah,
it was super. Yeah, that's intense. Yeah, it's super. And
I think we have a recent one too that you felt,
which was I mean, listen, I we're not going to
get political yet, um, but yet. I hope we didn't know.
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I can't help it. We will at some point, but
they're um, I mean all the mass shootings that have
been happening, and there was one in your own backyard effectively,
so I live in Cincinnati in Dayton is you know
just basically depending on your driving like an hour north
not not quite and versus flying vers like on your broom,
how fast is it? How fast? How far is Dayton
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on a broom? So what happened is the time that
the weekend that the shooting happened Dayton, I wasn't in Cincinnati,
and I was in Columbus, which is also very close,
right two hours from Cincinnati, an hour from from Dayton,
and it was it's supposed to be like this weekend
away like shell factor fun, you know, you see a concert,
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have fun. And I just wanted to get home the
whole time. I just want to get home. I just
wanted to get home, like I just I was. I
was really that edg nous and I just thought I
just wanted to get home because sometimes I'm like that,
but but it was it was bigger than that, and
and so just that when that edginess happens like that,
I just, um, yeah, did they did any of them
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come to you see you? Like, did you help reunite them?
Or was that just more of a actually be because
it's so close to Cincinnati. I was dealing more with
physical people who community of course, of course, like when
when Susanne and I lived in l a Um, we
had friends that were affected by the Las Vegas shooting,
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and so we were dealing with their loved ones because
of the connection, that's the closeness to them exactly. Okay,
so we went really intense just then. So now we're
gonna pull up from I gotta know, why haven't you
written a book. You've got great stories, you have great instruction.
I didn't write a book because you did, and I
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wrote it about you, mostly a lot about you. So
if anybody actually wants to write a book but you
don't want to write one, find me and phone a
friend who you'll tell all your stories to and help
them through the grieving process. And odds are they going
to write a book about you? One of the things,
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one of the many things I think, Brenda, that makes
you so different than other people. And I was going
to call it our trade. I'd like you to call
it a trade like wean. It gives it some the steam.
It does have a steam, and and there are tools
right like and I actually have a little tool like
chest at home with all my stuff and things in it.
So you know, You're so different people in our trade.
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And I think one of the things that was shocking
to me once I got to know you versus what
my image of people who have your gifts are. You
have an m b A. You mentioned that you were
an NBA school, but like, let's bring this back. You
have an m b A. I barely got through school.
I did. It's it's a that's a. Really, it's a
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true story. I mean, I cheated my way through high
school and that was in rural Oklahoma, so you know,
it really wasn't meant to be an education. UM. But
what inspired you to get an m b A. Well,
it was I wasn't living in Chicago, and I was
doing a sales job in selling training and development programs
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to businesses, and I liked working with businesses. My mom
was a big role model for me. She was in
sales and business as your mom was a role model
to you in many ways. And my mom cust a lot.
Everyone's welcome on behalf of Margaret and um. And so
I knew that I wouldn't stay in that job. And
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so the guy was dating at the time, we decided
to go to NBA school because why not? Oh my God,
you're such a joiner. It's like, so, wait, you were
that kid if your mom said to you, Um, if
so and so is going to jump off, but you're
going to jump with them? And your answer was yes,
Well it just seems like a good idea. And so
you decided to go free on Thursday, I can go
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to class. I can't go to class. Okay, so you
did it for that reason. I took the g MAD
and someone took us sweet. I was that's amazing. Um,
so okay, what have you done with it? Would you
do with your NBA burned out? Well? First I got
a job as in a customer service center managing thirty people.
It sounds like a nightmare for you. Always so much fun,
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absolutely so much fun. They were nicest people ever. We
had a great time. I had a great time. And
then they closed up that customer service center. And mostly
it was fun because I had this team of people
that were really experienced, so they taught me everything I
needed to know. God, it is perfect. They were awesome
and they so they closed that the customer service center,
and then I transferred to corporate headquarters and that's when
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I was on in finance and logistics. Okay. Then after
that though, after that, though, after that, I think it
got like super interesting the kind of work you started
to do. Because didn't you do executive coaching? I still do. Yes,
don't you do executive coaching? Yes? I work as an
executive coach. And it's really, um, it's it's a great mix,
(39:51):
I think, to help people and coach people because I
have the business training. I've worked in business, and so
I understand political systems and financial system owns and people's systems.
And it's you know, mixing that with the guidance that
comes in the intuition that comes. It's it's a great offer.
By guidance, you mean all the voices I always lie
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and I know because we've talked about this, and I mean,
you guys are are hopefully now dedicated listeners. What is
so incredible about I think Brenda doing this is people
get weird when they know that you have psychic abilities
and you also work in the business world. And I
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think it's amazing because it's a shortcut. It's like because
I worked with you in that capacity and um, when
I was at twenty century Fox, and I'm going to
tell you it's saved my ass because there was no
like going down some time path. Let's give this a try. Yeah,
let's try this. Let's try that. And you're like, no,
(40:53):
my elf, and you flicked me on the forehead. It's like, no,
you're gonna do this. You're gonna try actually go into
meeting and not speak, which is weird. But it's like,
but but it scares. It scares people, right, and and
that was such a big thing for you to do this,
to be out and about in the world and people
to know you know. So and again, people my my
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corporate clients, they know I have a good intuition because
I'm like, I want to run this by you, like
that's what they'll say, but they may not know the extent.
But then I also have other leaders who actually only
you know, they don't even know that I work as
an executive coach, but they'll come to me. A lot
of entrepreneurs will come to me and book quarterly. Yeah,
(41:38):
well they want I want to know. They want to Yeah,
they do want to know. It's it is my clients.
That was actually on the cover of Fortune magazine. I
love that. I I look at it like, um, when
you compare it to something like therapy, right. It's like
you get a good psychic on your side, and you
just saved yourself tens of thousands of dollars and ten
years and and just time. And that's the ten years
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you to save yourself a lot of Now, I don't
want to dis traditional therapy because that's not what that
comment was meant to do. But if you can do both,
it's kind of great. But you can really save yourself.
Um So, and I'm actually trained as a coach. I
just decided to leave business and go now I'm a coach.
Some people do that, Yes, that's true. I remember you
had called me one day and you said, I need
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your help myself. Um you're in marketing because I'm starting
a new program and you were looking for a name
for it, and I remember you emailed documents, so I
wanted to read about what it is that you were
putting together and it was it felt like warm magic
to me, and you ended up calling it Athena's Magical Secrets. Um.
(42:44):
And that's what you're currently doing today. And I think
it would be great if you just tell everybody what
this is, because there's to me, there's I've never heard
of anything like it in the world. Thanks hot wish,
Oh my god, please no so hones. Athena came to
me a while ago, ten ten years ago, now unmust
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and said, look, bringing the strength of the masculine thinking
because she is a goddess of mathematics and law and medicine.
And she is also the creator of weaving of the
flute like music like more traditional the sacred feminine. So
she weaves both this energy. Right, she's the warrior goddess,
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and so she's sort of my patron saint of my
corporate program training program called Athena in Action for Executives.
And I started that program and literally, as I'm delivering
the first day of this program, I'm so excited six
month program. Excited slash terrified. It's the same chemical reaction
in your body, right and so um. As I'm sitting
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down after a presentation and putting my people in a
breakout session to go work on this, I literally here,
we're not done. Like that's that's what I hear. And
I'm like, of course, we're not done. And it's the
first first half day of a six month program. Of course,
when I done, and she says, there's more, but I'll
let you you know, I'm like, okay, great, So I'm like,
just let me get through this two days. So it
was a two day kickoff, and over that weekend she said,
there's another program and this is what turned into Athena's
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Magical Secrets, and it's a safe place for women to
come and reconnect with their sacred feminine, their magical gifts.
And there's a remembrance of your intuition and your guidance
and your creativity. And they get some balls too. I mean,
I'm just gonna like flat out say it. And that's
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the masculine part because it's both you weave it in
there and you teach them to like find their lady balls,
which I think is so important. Now, why didn't I
name it that balls? That would have been a really
great name for the show because during that time we
were talking during your development, and I told you a story,
and I remember I was I was an adject professor,
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even though I'm not really the best um educator in
the world. And my students, my little dip ships, were
trying to boss me around, trying to push me around too,
so they could pick who was in their groups at
a group assignment for them, and I remember telling you
because I told them some fuck you fucker's I'm in charge,
and then all the you start telling me that you
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start using that in yours. It's one of my favorite
lady balls hashtag lady balls. Such a great phrase, and
I do use it in both my Athena programs because
it's such a great and you're welcome, and it's so
clear rights I'm in charge. It's fantastic. So Athena's magical
sequence is exactly that, honoring the masculine world. Right, the
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world was built by men, privileged men. Usually they broke it. Yes,
they broke the world. Go ahead, and how to honor
the world that we are in and we've in and
remember our magic. That's what the whole journey is about.
It's I think your program is unbelievable. So I think
what we should do um in our last goofy ask
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questions because I have to bring those back um opening
and closing, open and closing with something silly and goofy.
It's kind of goofy. But if you could wave your
magic one, because I know you have one over humanity,
what would you ask for? That's a hell of a question.
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That's a great question. Of course Julie's first responses candy
bars for everybody. Yeah, candy are pie pie for everyone,
cherry pie for the world. But really this is when
you get in touch with the spare world. What you're
able to see in one of the gifts that shows
up all the time is the energy behind everything. We
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have these great, compelling world in front of our eyes. Right,
we have pretty clothes or great hair. Today we've got
the glam Squad, so you know, we're all shiny and
bright and and drag and mascara which does this means
drike for Julian. But if we could not be distracted
by that, honor that for the fun it is and
see the soul imprint and the soul energy and beauty
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and strength and scars and wisdom and giggles and blessings
and struggles. If we could see those energetic imprints with everyone,
the world would be so different. And that's that's what
you would do with your magic. You know. What reminds
me of brin is Um you've heard like the Tale
of you know, we have such issues in traffic, right,
(47:28):
like we cut each other off and we'll speed will
be slow, and then we're you know, yelling at people
and having all the anger behind it. And then um,
somebody said that somebody is let's call him Jim, because
every most guys are named Jim on our show, on
our show, and I think in real life. But they say,
but you don't know if that person was taking their
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parents to the hospital, right, Like you don't know why
they weren't. So don't be so angry all the time
because you don't know the why thee is driving like
an asshole. Sometimes our assholes, but sometimes they're actually doing
something that's really important. They have to do that. And
so your story about seeing the soul, seeing our soul
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or imprint our our our essence reminds right and just
so surface. Right, It's like you can just be mad
at every driver, no matter the reason, but just be
mad at him. And I think that reminds me that
I'm just trying to bring it to like a everyday
and everyday kind of thing is just to be able
to see people really for their who they are and
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not what they surface without what they look like, especially
me today because I don't even recognize my and it
truly is. And your soul is just as sparkly and
magical as always right, it's just glitter flies out of
my soul. Um, so on the glitter note. Thank you
for sharing so much about yourself today, and I just
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you know, it's so important because as we go down
this journey together and then with you our listeners, Um,
you know, tell us about yourself some of the questions
that we ask, you know, some of your favorite things
in LA or New York. Just shoot us, you know,
slide into our Instagram and this let us know you
know what you think? You know what what would you pick?
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And I think with that, Bran, are we good today?
We're good today? Thank you hot which everybody have a
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Hi, y'all, I'm Julie. Hi there, I'm Brenda. Welcome to
Insider's Guide to the Other Side. Now y'all need to
know that we're obsessed with everything on the other side.
Yes we are, because once you learn to navigate the energetic,
or to some the invisible world, life is going to
be more fun and much more serene. Heck, yes it can,
(00:25):
because let's be honest, brand earth School is hard. In fact,
you taught me that. Let's crush Earth School together. Welcome
to Insider's Guide to the Other Side. A production of
I Heart Radio. Welcome everyone. Oh ship, that was really loud.
I think we should keep that. Don't edit that out
because that's gonna wake everybody. So if it's sebody's listening
(00:47):
at six am, it will be their alarm. Is me saying, well,
heart attack are fine? Fine? So before we get started,
I just have to because you know how to like
to confess something once an episode in every episode, sometimes
multiple confessions. But this confession, I think everybody needs to know.
Today's picture day, picture day, and it is your nightmare
(01:07):
day is picture day, and it's also mine. Because I
feel like a drag queen. I never wear makeup she
has I do, and I hate masscarre. Oh my god,
it's like I can't see, I can't. Um, but I
it is my nightmare because I don't. I don't. I
don't wear makeup. I rarely actually brush my hair, and
(01:28):
I have nightmares from old picture days. Who are you?
You don't brush you? Ba? Margaret would not be no,
no Margaret. She's gonna show up, isn't she? And she
shows up? But let us all know, do your well?
I get the impression that Margaret thinks you should brush
your hair, Julie. Um, But I when I was five
to say, you know, my mom sold school pictures. So
(01:50):
when you say picture day then been something completely different
than that meant you're going out for dinner. Bunny was
coming out right. So I cut my hair, my own
hair when I was five, Picture day, Yeah, unsupervised. Unsupervised,
I cut my own hair. I did not do that today.
So I didn't want to embarrass you with that. Alright,
(02:11):
So today's picture day. Everybody needs to know. We're both
terribly uncomfortable with it, and I feel like I can
barely move. Um. But so what we're gonna do is
we are going to get to know Brenda today, and
today is actually called Brenda the Good Witch. Actually it's
really called Brenda the Hot Witch. You guys will see
because at the Glam Squad, because you'll see when you
(02:32):
see the photos that Renna is one hot witch. So
that is actually what's going is officially going to be
Brenda the Hot Witch, not good Witch. UM. So I
have to another confession. We're two confessions in and we're
not even a couple of minutes in, but I'm one
of the luckiest fuckers in the world, um to know you. UM,
(02:52):
and I think that everyone should know that you. Um.
You kind of saved me in so many ways. And
one is I'm funny today because of you, because I
was grieving so hard when we met and you really
helped me through that process. And I've gotten to know
you so well over the years, and I think everybody
else should get to know you. So what we're gonna
do is invite you all in to get to know
(03:14):
Brenda the Hot Witch. Yeah, I'm saying it, I am
because part of my job, I think with this is
to make you uncomfortable just in life in general, because
we grow right through discomfort. Um. So we're going to
start with a brand new segment that I want to
call Silly Ask Questions. I bet nobody else no podcast
has a segment called Silly Ask Questions. But I think
(03:35):
that we will be the first. And because its Silly
Asked Questions, I encourage everybody at home to play along.
So our first Silly Asked Questions to get to know
Brenda the good slush hot? Which um? And you can
only pick one when we go through this brand? Are
you ready? I'm ready to just pick one? All right?
If you had to choose New York or l A,
(03:58):
who would you choose? New York, the land of p
It smells like you're in You have to unpack that.
You can't just say in August. It smells a lot
like you're on the sidewalk. That's why that's actually true.
It is true. All right, So you picked New York?
All right? My brother took me there when I was
a teenager and I just fell in love with it.
(04:19):
Can you tell me how to ride the subways? All right?
That's fair. There's no subway really in l A. So
there's a very small one, but no, it's not. It's terrible. Actually,
the worst public transportation and nice States of America. Um.
Second question, rom calm or horror. Okay, having a horror
(04:43):
wrong com. First of all, it has to be a
classic rom calm. It has to be you know, worthy
of watching. And I don't do horror ever. Chicken, I know,
I have no chicken ships. Although you sent me the
script for a horror movie. You me recall I did
Poulter Guys right, and I my response to you was,
(05:03):
that was so funny. I thought it was a common Well,
I actually what I thought was so interesting, um, because
I could write a book about things I've learned from you.
Oh wait, I did. But one of the things that
I learned from you, um about horror movies was when
actors are playing these parts, the other side doesn't know
(05:26):
we're acting. Right. So note to self, everyone, be very
prepared and protect yourself if you are an actor actress
in a horror film or even on a play or
something like that, because energetically right. So an example, for example,
we have a friend who is a Broadway actor and
(05:48):
he was playing a role that he commits suicide. The
role commits suicide by hanging. And this is not a
fun story I'm gathering. Um, I can't remember what it is.
It Greece that has someone that it's actually it was
a great trying. I think it was Greece that was
someone who commits this, not the country, but the musical,
the musical. Thank you. I'm here to help, thank you.
(06:12):
And so we were having dinner with our deer from
Paul and super talented, super seasoned professional, and he's like,
I've never had this problem before, but I'm having problems
with my voice. You know, I'm doing NHHO was a
week and the run's going great, but you know, I'm
having this in my throat and that never has happened before.
I'm like, yeah, that's because energetically, you are tying a
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noose around your neck eight days a week. And so
we cleared up the pattern and he never had a
problem after that. So I mean, this is real. It's
a real thing. Yeah. So if you are in a
situation like this, called Brenda or just can help you
tell your energy field like this is pretend and then
cancel clear after each performance. Right, So that's where you
(06:53):
don't like horror, Well, I just just there's alright, fine,
school is hard enough. Our next question of silly ask
questions uh, Yoga or Yoda, they are the same. You
pick one the rules, you pick one, they are the
same option. You pick one. One is a creature, one
(07:16):
is a cult. When you think what Yoda says, it
is absolutely the same thing any Yogi would say. So
it's the same one. No, No, I should ask you.
I should ask you the hard questions that I had before,
and we'll get to those later. Yeah, we will get
to those. But he's bullshit. Had to pick one, same option. Fine, Okay,
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so now it's time for a quick round of what's
your favorite? I promise we'll get into more serious stuff.
I can we along here, folks, But this part I think,
even though we're getting to know Brenda better, it's more
to humor me. Um, all right, you can only answer
one of these is truth? Right? Um? Favorite TV psychic
or favorite TV which I will give you a broader
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option than TV psychic have options? I like you have options.
So favorite TV Psychic. First of all, you have to
pay homage to John Edward, because he was putting himself
out there in a way that made the work we
do accessible and not scary. And he's an amazing talent.
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So all those things are absolutely true. So number one, Well,
he's one. He's absolutely high in the list. And then
I grew up with Bewitched Elizabeth Montcom and you talk
about a sexy witch. Oh my god. She was so
hot and so playful and so um you know, just awesome.
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And she had a twin herself. I mean it doesn't
want to And I also grew up with like this.
My mom is so great, and she would literally say
to me, you can be anything you want when you
grow up. And I would lay him in and say,
I wish I were bewitched. I wish I were bewitched.
I wish I congratulations for that's where you are. You
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are in a podcast booth, and I heard radio talking
about psychic ship, So I think you want I think
your mom was right, Sandy go Sandy. Alright, So next question,
your favorite movie psychic Oh well, there's the only one, right,
there's only one. Oh yeah, I know who it is.
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But we'll give everybody a brief pose at home if
they can guess who the only one is. One to
three Okay, now say your answer yes to Brown. Yes,
and Ghost so so insane, so perfect. She was so
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great in that movie. And if anybody who's listening hasn't
seen that movie. You probably shouldn't even be listening to
the podcast, because I think that's a prerequisite to listen
to our show is to have watched ghosts favorite musical,
So you exclue, would be an American to not say
Hamilton's at this point? Oh you would? Yeah? Really okay,
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But before Hamilton's I would have to say Wicked Girl Power.
Oh I like that, and it was actually open. So
I'm gonna add another question on for you have a
favorite musical that was a movie. I don't really like
them when they're transferred. I can't say Greece. We just
said Greece before, but that went the other way. It
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was a movie. And then, oh my god. Okay, I'm
gonna stick to the damn questions I had. Alright, fine,
what's your favorite? Not you true? Obviously salted roasted Mecademia nets.
You do love this? I love this? Alright? Favorite singer
Stevie Nicks, Yes, the welch Witch right in. Another prerequisite
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I think to listen to her is Stevie Nicks. I
love her so much. Gee, there anybody else on your list?
I mean, I'll I'll give you a couple for for favorite,
too many to Dolly Parton. You wouldn't put Dolly Parton
on there, absolutely, I mean a little bit nine to
five you know. Oh you love that right? Yeah? I
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like sleeping singing on the double bed. Yeah, I won't
sing for everybody yet. All right, Favorite, it's too really right?
Favorite color? Okay, that's a duff. For those of you
have ever met word, Um, favorite thing in your closet.
I have red moccasins that I love. My answer would be,
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I've been at the closet for so many years, don't
even know what's in it. Okay, so we're gonna get
onto more. Um, wait, you know what actually have before
we go on? And you have to because you know this.
I do have something favorite that is in my closet
that you have seen a photo of. Photo I was
just gonna say, and in a bathroom stall in Las Vegas.
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It's getting good, folks, it's the X rated version. Well,
we're always explicit, so might as well say I have
a pair of Andy's that on the back say it
ain't going to spank itself because it won't. It won't.
It's like a true statement. You have to help people
out I do need each other, right and so now
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when I wear those, my heinie has instructions, um, and
they're legit instructions because it's not going to spank itself.
So it's a people actually see those instructions. That's my question. Well,
you know what I want to know? Possibly a lot,
Definitely our gardeners, possibly a pool guy and Verst sure
FedEx because of all the Amazon boxes I get. Okay,
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so I think actually there's quite a crew out there
that see that it will not spank itself. Okay, We're
going to get on to more real questions about you.
So thank you for indulging me everyone, and uh the
fun part of it for me. Um. So but let's
start like really dive in. And you know, I think
let's like kind of take the clock back two. When
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did you first realize that you had abilities that were
unlike other people? And my abilities I don't mean you can,
like you know, make a good dish or do laundry,
I mean abilities, um, your psychic abilities. So um, it's
such a great question and I get asked this, thank
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you a question a lot, but this is this question
really is um more about when I learned that other
people didn't see spirits. Okay, so because because that's how
I came to this planet. And so you think, you know,
you think you're like everyone else, Like when you think
about the household, you grew up in the sort of
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secrets that your house had, and and you didn't even
know they were secrets until you get out in the world.
I didn't know people drink coffee. My mom didn't drink coffee.
I didn't never the coffee was the thing, because in
my house, it's not a big deal. Why is everyone crazy?
Why about this thing? Now? I get it. It's about
It's about the world you grow up in. Yeah, exactly,
So my world. I saw spirits very young. One of
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the first memorable ones is when we were driving, so
three kids, mom and dad in the front seat, three
kids in the back seat. It was a station wagon,
so right, so one of those where you put the
way back down and you put the back seat down
some national lamp like exactly, and so we are, you know,
rolling down driving from Wisconsin to Texas in August with
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no a C. Did they hate you? Did your parents
hate your shouldren? Because that's the only reason you would
do that back in the day. But my dad's My
dad worked on the academic year. So that's when we
took location. Right. So so and I said, we're rolling
down the highway and I am, you know, there's coloring
books and crans and regular books and you know, there's
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all you know. So we got this like campground in
the back of the seat, and I had a feather
pillow that burst. My Dad's driving through you know, rush
hour traffic, and he is hot. He is piste about
this feathers everywhere he couldn't see, and you know, for
not long, but for a very intense time, it was mayhem.
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It was just mayhem. And I couldn't stop giggling. I
thought it was the funniest thing in the world. And
my dad is railing, like I did it on purpose, right,
This wasn't my fault. I would have done it on purpose.
That is actually true, and that was totally true. I
would have totally done bullshit like that. And so when
the feathers cleared, I remember seeing these little balls of
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light and I think of them as energy balls, and
they would form and come towards me and float away
and get bigger and get smaller and turn colors. And
so I think of them, just his energy balls, and
so I was playing with them and engaged like just
in a distracting way, like it was like a little
old for it was probably five. So you're doing acid
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when you were what you're telling everybody is that you
were doing assets. It's exactly what I meant. That's what
I thought. I said that, except except no acid, just
no feathers, and it was just it was just this
um this. It was like a head of playmate, right,
And so I was playing for hours. The spirit made
you feel better, yeah, and they just came to like
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because I was feeling bad. Hey, I lost my pillow.
So that sucked. And my dad was really mad at
me and said that sucked. And they said, hey, that
was a good time. Oh my god, I love that
was really sweet. So when did other people know that
you had or actually, when did you know that other
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people didn't have the same gifts? I'm gonna ask my
question better, okay, because I know the answer. So it
was unfair. There's a story, and I love the story
of when you realize that other people didn't see what
you saw. Yes, I think I ain't great if you
told everybody that story. So if you fast forward a
couple of decades. So I'm in college and so um,
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so you're educated hot which so I've an educated wait
which and amzing I made that happens playing? So you know,
we're hanging out on the dorm room and it's Friday night.
There's wine, there's food, there's you know, we're hanging out
and we're talking and we're telling funny stories. And I say,
and don't you love it when the spirits do this?
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And the room goes silent. There's like the first time
in hours there's the room has been silent, and it's
totally silent, and they all turned and look at me.
And finally someone says how much have you had to drink?
And I was like, oh, never mind. And then the
next morning they're like, wasn't that funny when you said that?
And I'm like, oh, I don't remember saying it. I
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just you know, like I was drunk, yeah, you know,
And it never came up again. And so I learned
very quickly this is not something we talked about. Okay,
so your college, so it took that long, yeah for
you to kind of figure I mean, I get it.
It's it's like I was I did not know that
there were other Lettuces other than Iceberg, and so I
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was twenty five. That's more of a distribution. But the
same principle applies, is that if you don't know, you
don't know. If we've talked before, right, that I am
more introverted, and so I'm more are just me too,
I'm a little more close. I'm just a little more quiet.
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So if someone doesn't ask me to question, sometimes I
won't be a little chatterbox. But so you know, I
just never brought it up, that's all. So did you
okay not bring it up? And being somewhat of an introvert,
did you learn in your life if anybody else in
your family has the same abilities, then um, yes, my mom.
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My mom is very intuitive and you know, during the seventies,
during this sort of time when sort of being in
touch with psychicness or esp was kind of hot, Like
she had some books and I think she maybe, yeah,
kind of took a class. Yeah, and they're just disorganized.
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And this is one of my favorite stories about my
mom's in tuition because she uses it all the time
and it's it's a guiding force for her and she
pays attention. She's really good at that. So in there
was the l A earthquake, right, Um that happened over
a holiday weekend and during that time, it was north
Ridge earthquake. Thanks for those that are playing at home, Yes,
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that was a Northbridge earthquake in its yeah, no, no doubt. Right.
So that weekend I was visiting my brother and his
wife who lived in l A. And my brother was
sick at the time and I wanted to spend every
minute with him that I could. And during our weekend together,
we you know, we just had a ball. We had
people over, we went to you know, had a game,
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had a party, lots of food, that's of fun. And
during this event, his two little Yorkies that are the
sweetest dogs in the world, they started fighting like you know,
play growling, but like really biting each other, like aggressive
at the throat, like like like going for I was like,
what is going on. That's not right, that's not right.
That's like when I don't have sugar noted it's true.
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So um, so I knew like something was on edge.
And then I you know, I just felt like something
wasn't right. And so I didn't know what it was
because there was a lot going on, and you know activity.
But I said to my brother Mark, I said, I'm
I'm going to leave early. I'm going to leave tomorrow
instead of Monday. So I'm gonna leave on Sunday because
the dogs were fighting, well, because something was off. I
just all I said to him was I just have
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to get back. And she was so loving and so cool.
He's like, sure, of course, we'll take you. We'll take you,
and so um off. I go to the airport and
I'm standing in line to change my ticket because it
was no American Airlines app or Delta app available, so
I have to change my ticket. And as I'm standing
in line, you know that rumbling that happens on the
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earth when a big truck drives by. I do so
I feel that and I'm just standing there randomly, and
I turned around to see the truck that's flying driving by,
and of course there's no truck, there's nothing there, and
I just kind of noted that I'm not from a
place that has earthquake, so it wasn't in my consciousness.
Did you think other people felt that or did you
just have that since that you felt like you got
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the vibration. I got the vibr vibe, but no, no
one else moved, no one else did anything. Um, and
so I've fly back to I lived in Dallas at
the time, and my boyfriend at the time, I lived
close to the airport, so I got in late, and
so I just went to his place instead of going
home because it was a holiday weekend. So we could,
you know, have like brunch tomorrow the next day, just
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to set the stage for everybody. Was it DFW or
was it love Field? I lived in Dallas, Like wait,
I hope we have people that are listening that are
from Dallas and they want to hear their airports. It
is DFW. Thank you, thank you, thank you for clarifying
and bringing clarity to my story in my pleasure. So
so I'm saying south of DFW, and and you know,
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having my holiday weekend, I thinking and think of it. Meanwhile,
the earth is literally shaking that morning. It's it's swallowing
Los Angeles. Yeah, it's really really not good. And I
have no idea because I'm not paying attention and kind
of off the grid sort of it. And my mom
is in Wisconsin, sandy, and she wakes up at the
time of the l a earthquake and know something's wrong.
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So she turns on the television and unbeknownst to me,
she can't call Mark and Anna because the phone lines
are up, and she so and she can't call me,
or she called me on left messages. I'm home but
no cell phones. So she calls my work and they're like, oh,
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she's missing her brother in l A. She's like, ah.
But when I finally got ahold of my mom, which
was midday on Monday, she says her words were, I
couldn't see you in l A. I couldn't see you
in l A. So she was like remote viewing effect right.
She wouldn't not use those she wouldn't use those word
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she was remote viewing, right, And so she was saying this,
she said, I I know we're going to say goodbye
to Mark early because he was HIV positive, but I
wasn't ready to lose you, and I just couldn't deal.
Like she was flipping out thinking that I wasn't there,
Like she was scanning l A. She didn't think to
Scanford and Dallas. Why would why would I ever leave
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my brother early? Right, except Mama Andy got some gifts.
That's just one example. But she got a lot of gifts.
So that's it. And now, wait, don't you have Are
there no other relatives that have these gifts? I don't know,
like well or have they encountered. We grew up on
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the Texas Mexican border, and there are lots and lots
of stories coming out of that environment. So that was
one of So my my dad comes from a family
of eight children. And they found in the river bed
where they would like should be beguns, right, So they're
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going to the river and they're talking and you know, playing,
their kids playing, and they found two dolls, like voodoo dolls.
Like I didn't say that word, you did, and I
did not see them, but they had these two these
two dolls that were um wired together, wrapped together, facing
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each other, and they didn't know what to do, but
they knew that it was the village, which they knew
it was her work, and so they left it. But
somehow she knew that they were there. And so when
they came back to check on it a little while later,
and now granted their kids, the dolls were still there,
but they were tied back to back and they had
no more children. Oh my god, that's crazy. Okay, so
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then you're saying, I'm gonta summarize that one. The village
which messed with your family? Oh my god, Wow, that's incredible. Okay,
so Mom's sandy village which we've a which rest is
so great. So you know you have all these gifts,
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when did you decide to move forward with them or
like to make it to make them heightened, to practice
learn more? Really, what um when I came out of
NBA school is when I decided I just want to
note everybody that Brenda has an NBA. So when I
came out of school graduate school, I was ready to
find a tarot teacher, is really what happened. So I
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found my my tarot teacher, and I had three lessons
over six months, and then I was ready to go.
And so I started reading for friends dinner parties. I
was a very popular guest, and so I would read
for these dinner parties and have such a great time.
And it was so much fun because we have party tricks.
Are people have party tricks? Out great party tricks? I mean,
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so those of you that have some psychic abilities, you
are always welcome up parties. The only thing I would
say is that for me being the sensitive one, right,
I prefer when people come see me before they've had alcohol.
Oh I love the boozer are actually my favorite ones.
People there are my people, and especially when I've had it,
because I can see people's spirit animals, and so if
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I start time one on, I mean I see a zoo,
It's fantastic. But this isn't about me. Go did tarr classes?
Took a lot of them. I did three. That's a
lot three lessons. And then so when then I got
transferred to Cincinnati into my my finance role, Brandy was corporate.
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I was corporate corporate, which so one day my guides
literally drove me from the headquarters to this neighborhood I've
never been in before, says Cincinnati is nestled between seven hills.
So they drove me up one of the hills and
parked me in front of a shop and I'm like,
can you walk in? And this woman says, can I
help you? I'm like no, I'm just looking like I
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had no idea what I was looking for, and it
was to maybe like three rooms, and so I'm walking
around looking at everything in this small three room shop
because I know I'm there for a reason, but I
don't know what it is. So finally I wander So wait,
so this is before then you really got connected with
your guides, Like and I knew my guides, but I
knew them at that time, but they weren't individualized like
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I knew I had guidance. So I'd hear things, I'd
see things, I'd kind of like you got sense, right,
sense things, but you were not as connected to them
but as you were today. So I'm in this shop
and I walk around, and I know that there's something
there for me, but I don't know what it is.
So finally I get to the back little room and
in the furthest corner there's this door, and in the
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doorway with a thumb tack stuck into the door with
this little recipe peak card that says readings Friday and
Saturday night. And I was like, oh my god, I'm home.
I found a place to do readings. I was so excited,
I think I floated back to the front room where
the clerk was and I said, Hi, just motive from
Cincinnati or from from Dallas, and I really I'm a reader.
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I'm looking for a place to read. Any chance that
you have openings for readers and she's like, oh, darling,
we've had the same readers for twenty years. I think
we're good. Thanks so much, and I, you know, kind
of get this push from behind me that says okay.
So I reached into my bag and I pull out
the only card I have, which is my Proctor and
Gamble Financial Analyst card that to me, is like a
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joke card. I mean, if I wanted to go mess
with people and say here, meet Brenda and I would
hand them that card. It's like I'm playing a prank.
I don't know. It's so good, right, And so I
handed this card and I say, look, if something changes,
please give me a call. And she's like, oh sure,
I will absolutely thank you. Like, no, for real, I
need you to do this is what I was thinking
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in my head because I knew I was there for
a reason. And turn up a week later, not ten days,
like a week later, I get this call that says,
you're not going to believe this, but one of our
readers is moving to Florida. I'm like, yes, I do
believe that. And so then she asked me to come
up and do an audition reading. And of course, you
know I panicked a little bit, like what is that
auditional audition reading? Like, how's that different from a regular reading? Oh?
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My god, what if I failed? What if I don't
wake the calls? You know, you get those little voices right? No, actually,
do not know what you're talking about. Actually most humans
might get that. So I go and I do this
reading and I give her, you know what I think
is a great reading, just straight down the middle, really nice,
and she seems pleased with it. So I'm the reading
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is over, and I'm picking up my cards and shuffling them,
and I just asked her, very casually, I said, you know,
just one question, what are you going to do with
that young man that's your family doesn't know about? And
she looks at me and she says, you're hired. I
have the class deserves a clap. That's fantastic. That's fantastic.
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So have you had any trade education training? Yeah? Absolutely,
for so many um, so many great teachers. UM I
had meditation teacher, a number of them. And but most
of my deep, deep studies have been at Camp Chesterfield,
which is a spiritualist camp in Indiana. So at this camp,
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do you macromay? Because that's what we did a camp. No, No,
it's kind of like that, but different because macromy is awesome.
Now did they make you peanut butter and jelly sandwiches
or did they feed you like the ara vetic kind
of stuff that I don't like? Well, I would say
that the food is not the highlight of Camp Chesterfield.
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It wasn't what I was there. Well, I need to
work with them because I can help them with their
extracurricular activities. And you love because they have spirit art.
So you go to meditation and new draw what they
what they show you, and you have development classes and
do there's astrology and numerology. Did you do spirit art?
I did not do spirit art. I want to go
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do spirit art. Okay, we'll go to spirit art together. Amazing.
And then of course there's there's all kinds of classes,
prayer classes and meditation classes and religion classes, and I mean,
I'm back at I'm still stuck on spirit art. I
did not hear a word of commander your mouth after that,
because I have to listen to the playback. I will,
but all I heard was spirit art. And I keep
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seeing all these things in my head that I really
want to go do so I think that we need
to do that together. So you're trained, I think, is
the answer to that, and then we'd have great seances.
And then you give like flower messages and I'll kinda
can we lift a table? Do they do that? Do
they left tate? They don't do table tip screwed camp feeling,
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and there are no peanut butter jelly serving macromay making
camp um. So I also know that the work that
you do UM can be very intense. I mean, can
you of course, there's messages and things that happen when
you look at somebody, say, so, what you got to
do about that young man? Your family doesn't know about that?
Stuff happens. But there's also there is depth and and two,
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I think what you have experienced there's been death when
I've experienced So if I've experienced depth, and I'm like
a bathtub compared compared to your ocean of psychic abilities,
it's totally like that. Don't listen to her, people seriously
listen to me. Don't listen to her, UM. But what
is what is like? What's some of the most intense
stories are experiences that you've had because you are so sensitive.
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I think for me, personally that the two like global
kind of events that really like just kind of entered
my sphere. My nervous system was eleven. Like the week
before nine eleven happened in the US, I was so
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on edge. I couldn't sleep, I was I was snippy,
I was edgy like your brother's dogs before I was
like yeah, I was like, I mean, I'm actually not joking.
No that I joke a lot, but that is not
to me a joke. It's like that's when you start
paying attention to yourself and you there's these changes and
you get snippy, lack a Yorkie. Something's gonna happen, something,
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something's gone down, and it was and and the thing
is like you you do feel a little crazy, like
like you're like, oh my god, I don't know what's
wrong with me. Like I'm doing all the tools that
I know to do that that help, and I'm taking
care of business. So it's not like I'm on edge
or stressed because of external stuff. But what is it?
Like there's something not right, it's just not right, and
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you can't you can't settle it no matter what. And um,
and then of course not eleven happened and then after that,
like the month after all in the dream state. I
I have specific memories of helping spirits reunite in the
dream stay with their loved ones for the last goodbye.
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And so that went on for another month, So it
was like six weeks. I was just trashed. Yeah, and
then I think there was also the tsunami because I
didn't know you n eleven, but I knew you. We
were friends during the tsunami and um, Thailand. Yeah it was,
it was, really it was, and I was home and
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I again it was it's just that edginess, can't sleep, um,
just feeling like in the like the nervous systems just
running raw and didn't know what it was and didn't
know what it was and didn't know what it was. Yeah,
it was super. Yeah, that's intense. Yeah, it's super. And
I think we have a recent one too that you felt,
which was I mean, listen, I we're not going to
get political yet, um, but yet. I hope we didn't know.
(34:49):
I can't help it. We will at some point, but
they're um, I mean all the mass shootings that have
been happening, and there was one in your own backyard effectively,
so I live in Cincinnati in Dayton is you know
just basically depending on your driving like an hour north
not not quite and versus flying vers like on your broom,
how fast is it? How fast? How far is Dayton
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on a broom? So what happened is the time that
the weekend that the shooting happened Dayton, I wasn't in Cincinnati,
and I was in Columbus, which is also very close,
right two hours from Cincinnati, an hour from from Dayton,
and it was it's supposed to be like this weekend
away like shell factor fun, you know, you see a concert,
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have fun. And I just wanted to get home the
whole time. I just want to get home. I just
wanted to get home, like I just I was. I
was really that edg nous and I just thought I
just wanted to get home because sometimes I'm like that,
but but it was it was bigger than that, and
and so just that when that edginess happens like that,
I just, um, yeah, did they did any of them
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come to you see you? Like, did you help reunite them?
Or was that just more of a actually be because
it's so close to Cincinnati. I was dealing more with
physical people who community of course, of course, like when
when Susanne and I lived in l a Um, we
had friends that were affected by the Las Vegas shooting,
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and so we were dealing with their loved ones because
of the connection, that's the closeness to them exactly. Okay,
so we went really intense just then. So now we're
gonna pull up from I gotta know, why haven't you
written a book. You've got great stories, you have great instruction.
I didn't write a book because you did, and I
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wrote it about you, mostly a lot about you. So
if anybody actually wants to write a book but you
don't want to write one, find me and phone a
friend who you'll tell all your stories to and help
them through the grieving process. And odds are they going
to write a book about you? One of the things,
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one of the many things I think, Brenda, that makes
you so different than other people. And I was going
to call it our trade. I'd like you to call
it a trade like wean. It gives it some the steam.
It does have a steam, and and there are tools
right like and I actually have a little tool like
chest at home with all my stuff and things in it.
So you know, You're so different people in our trade.
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And I think one of the things that was shocking
to me once I got to know you versus what
my image of people who have your gifts are. You
have an m b A. You mentioned that you were
an NBA school, but like, let's bring this back. You
have an m b A. I barely got through school.
I did. It's it's a that's a. Really, it's a
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true story. I mean, I cheated my way through high
school and that was in rural Oklahoma, so you know,
it really wasn't meant to be an education. UM. But
what inspired you to get an m b A. Well,
it was I wasn't living in Chicago, and I was
doing a sales job in selling training and development programs
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to businesses, and I liked working with businesses. My mom
was a big role model for me. She was in
sales and business as your mom was a role model
to you in many ways. And my mom cust a lot.
Everyone's welcome on behalf of Margaret and um. And so
I knew that I wouldn't stay in that job. And
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so the guy was dating at the time, we decided
to go to NBA school because why not? Oh my God,
you're such a joiner. It's like, so, wait, you were
that kid if your mom said to you, Um, if
so and so is going to jump off, but you're
going to jump with them? And your answer was yes,
Well it just seems like a good idea. And so
you decided to go free on Thursday, I can go
(38:48):
to class. I can't go to class. Okay, so you
did it for that reason. I took the g MAD
and someone took us sweet. I was that's amazing. Um,
so okay, what have you done with it? Would you
do with your NBA burned out? Well? First I got
a job as in a customer service center managing thirty people.
It sounds like a nightmare for you. Always so much fun,
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absolutely so much fun. They were nicest people ever. We
had a great time. I had a great time. And
then they closed up that customer service center. And mostly
it was fun because I had this team of people
that were really experienced, so they taught me everything I
needed to know. God, it is perfect. They were awesome
and they so they closed that the customer service center,
and then I transferred to corporate headquarters and that's when
(39:31):
I was on in finance and logistics. Okay. Then after
that though, after that, though, after that, I think it
got like super interesting the kind of work you started
to do. Because didn't you do executive coaching? I still do. Yes,
don't you do executive coaching? Yes? I work as an
executive coach. And it's really, um, it's it's a great mix,
(39:51):
I think, to help people and coach people because I
have the business training. I've worked in business, and so
I understand political systems and financial system owns and people's systems.
And it's you know, mixing that with the guidance that
comes in the intuition that comes. It's it's a great offer.
By guidance, you mean all the voices I always lie
(40:13):
and I know because we've talked about this, and I mean,
you guys are are hopefully now dedicated listeners. What is
so incredible about I think Brenda doing this is people
get weird when they know that you have psychic abilities
and you also work in the business world. And I
(40:33):
think it's amazing because it's a shortcut. It's like because
I worked with you in that capacity and um, when
I was at twenty century Fox, and I'm going to
tell you it's saved my ass because there was no
like going down some time path. Let's give this a try. Yeah,
let's try this. Let's try that. And you're like, no,
(40:53):
my elf, and you flicked me on the forehead. It's like, no,
you're gonna do this. You're gonna try actually go into
meeting and not speak, which is weird. But it's like,
but but it scares. It scares people, right, and and
that was such a big thing for you to do this,
to be out and about in the world and people
to know you know. So and again, people my my
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corporate clients, they know I have a good intuition because
I'm like, I want to run this by you, like
that's what they'll say, but they may not know the extent.
But then I also have other leaders who actually only
you know, they don't even know that I work as
an executive coach, but they'll come to me. A lot
of entrepreneurs will come to me and book quarterly. Yeah,
(41:38):
well they want I want to know. They want to Yeah,
they do want to know. It's it is my clients.
That was actually on the cover of Fortune magazine. I
love that. I I look at it like, um, when
you compare it to something like therapy, right. It's like
you get a good psychic on your side, and you
just saved yourself tens of thousands of dollars and ten
years and and just time. And that's the ten years
(41:59):
you to save yourself a lot of Now, I don't
want to dis traditional therapy because that's not what that
comment was meant to do. But if you can do both,
it's kind of great. But you can really save yourself.
Um So, and I'm actually trained as a coach. I
just decided to leave business and go now I'm a coach.
Some people do that, Yes, that's true. I remember you
had called me one day and you said, I need
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your help myself. Um you're in marketing because I'm starting
a new program and you were looking for a name
for it, and I remember you emailed documents, so I
wanted to read about what it is that you were
putting together and it was it felt like warm magic
to me, and you ended up calling it Athena's Magical Secrets. Um.
(42:44):
And that's what you're currently doing today. And I think
it would be great if you just tell everybody what
this is, because there's to me, there's I've never heard
of anything like it in the world. Thanks hot wish,
Oh my god, please no so hones. Athena came to
me a while ago, ten ten years ago, now unmust
(43:05):
and said, look, bringing the strength of the masculine thinking
because she is a goddess of mathematics and law and medicine.
And she is also the creator of weaving of the
flute like music like more traditional the sacred feminine. So
she weaves both this energy. Right, she's the warrior goddess,
(43:27):
and so she's sort of my patron saint of my
corporate program training program called Athena in Action for Executives.
And I started that program and literally, as I'm delivering
the first day of this program, I'm so excited six
month program. Excited slash terrified. It's the same chemical reaction
in your body, right and so um. As I'm sitting
(43:49):
down after a presentation and putting my people in a
breakout session to go work on this, I literally here,
we're not done. Like that's that's what I hear. And
I'm like, of course, we're not done. And it's the
first first half day of a six month program. Of course,
when I done, and she says, there's more, but I'll
let you you know, I'm like, okay, great, So I'm like,
just let me get through this two days. So it
was a two day kickoff, and over that weekend she said,
there's another program and this is what turned into Athena's
(44:12):
Magical Secrets, and it's a safe place for women to
come and reconnect with their sacred feminine, their magical gifts.
And there's a remembrance of your intuition and your guidance
and your creativity. And they get some balls too. I mean,
I'm just gonna like flat out say it. And that's
(44:33):
the masculine part because it's both you weave it in
there and you teach them to like find their lady balls,
which I think is so important. Now, why didn't I
name it that balls? That would have been a really
great name for the show because during that time we
were talking during your development, and I told you a story,
and I remember I was I was an adject professor,
(44:55):
even though I'm not really the best um educator in
the world. And my students, my little dip ships, were
trying to boss me around, trying to push me around too,
so they could pick who was in their groups at
a group assignment for them, and I remember telling you
because I told them some fuck you fucker's I'm in charge,
and then all the you start telling me that you
(45:15):
start using that in yours. It's one of my favorite
lady balls hashtag lady balls. Such a great phrase, and
I do use it in both my Athena programs because
it's such a great and you're welcome, and it's so
clear rights I'm in charge. It's fantastic. So Athena's magical
sequence is exactly that, honoring the masculine world. Right, the
(45:37):
world was built by men, privileged men. Usually they broke it. Yes,
they broke the world. Go ahead, and how to honor
the world that we are in and we've in and
remember our magic. That's what the whole journey is about.
It's I think your program is unbelievable. So I think
what we should do um in our last goofy ask
(46:01):
questions because I have to bring those back um opening
and closing, open and closing with something silly and goofy.
It's kind of goofy. But if you could wave your
magic one, because I know you have one over humanity,
what would you ask for? That's a hell of a question.
(46:21):
That's a great question. Of course Julie's first responses candy
bars for everybody. Yeah, candy are pie pie for everyone,
cherry pie for the world. But really this is when
you get in touch with the spare world. What you're
able to see in one of the gifts that shows
up all the time is the energy behind everything. We
(46:42):
have these great, compelling world in front of our eyes. Right,
we have pretty clothes or great hair. Today we've got
the glam Squad, so you know, we're all shiny and
bright and and drag and mascara which does this means
drike for Julian. But if we could not be distracted
by that, honor that for the fun it is and
see the soul imprint and the soul energy and beauty
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and strength and scars and wisdom and giggles and blessings
and struggles. If we could see those energetic imprints with everyone,
the world would be so different. And that's that's what
you would do with your magic. You know. What reminds
me of brin is Um you've heard like the Tale
of you know, we have such issues in traffic, right,
(47:28):
like we cut each other off and we'll speed will
be slow, and then we're you know, yelling at people
and having all the anger behind it. And then um,
somebody said that somebody is let's call him Jim, because
every most guys are named Jim on our show, on
our show, and I think in real life. But they say,
but you don't know if that person was taking their
(47:50):
parents to the hospital, right, Like you don't know why
they weren't. So don't be so angry all the time
because you don't know the why thee is driving like
an asshole. Sometimes our assholes, but sometimes they're actually doing
something that's really important. They have to do that. And
so your story about seeing the soul, seeing our soul
(48:11):
or imprint our our our essence reminds right and just
so surface. Right, It's like you can just be mad
at every driver, no matter the reason, but just be
mad at him. And I think that reminds me that
I'm just trying to bring it to like a everyday
and everyday kind of thing is just to be able
to see people really for their who they are and
(48:34):
not what they surface without what they look like, especially
me today because I don't even recognize my and it
truly is. And your soul is just as sparkly and
magical as always right, it's just glitter flies out of
my soul. Um, so on the glitter note. Thank you
for sharing so much about yourself today, and I just
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you know, it's so important because as we go down
this journey together and then with you our listeners, Um,
you know, tell us about yourself some of the questions
that we ask, you know, some of your favorite things
in LA or New York. Just shoot us, you know,
slide into our Instagram and this let us know you
know what you think? You know what what would you pick?
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And I think with that, Bran, are we good today?
We're good today? Thank you hot which everybody have a
fabulous day. Thanks thanks for joining us everyone, and a
special thanks to our producer Michael, who guides us while
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