July 20, 2022 • 33 mins
Traveling back to your hometown can be full of emotions… joy, dread, curiosity. But for Julie Rieger, a trip back in time to her homeland landed her in the scariest place she’s ever been.
Today Julie shares this story. Full of evidence that you should always trust your gut and listen to your intuition, especially when it suddenly knocks you off balance, Julie’s initial simple little trip turned into a tale that rattled even the most advanced spiritual warrior.
Here on Earth School, it’s imperative you learn how to keep yourself grounded and calm during unexpected experiences. And that’s absolutely possible…. with the angels of protection from the Other Side as your guides.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to Insider's Guide to the Other Side, a production
of My Heart Radio. Hi, y'all, I'm Julie. Hi there,
I'm Brenda. Welcome to Insider's Guide to the Other Side. Now,
y'all need to know that we are obsessed with everything
on the other side. Yes, we are, because once you
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learn to navigate the energetic, or to some the invisible world,
life is going to be more fun and much more serene. Heck,
yes it can, because, let's be honest, Brand, earth school
is hard. In fact, you taught me that let's crush
Earth School together. Well, hello, my witchy pooh, have I
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got a scary ass story for you? Oh, my favorite greeting.
That's awesome. Oh, I can't wait. First of all, I
always love your stories, and second of all, it's a
spooky one. Yeah, Brand, I mean, what have you been
up to? My alpha? I know it's like I didn't
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go looking for it, not intentionally, So let me just
start with that. So not intentionally I did not go
looking for it, but yet, and yet I stumbled upon.
I cannot lie because well I lie about this. I
mean so good, right, the tude is so good. I
just lie about my weight probably about all I lie about.
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But um, but it I mean, it is the scariest
place I've ever been to. M. Okay, wait a minute,
because you have been in some funco situations, Yes I have, Yes,
I have, indeed, and this was an immensely scary, upsetting,
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a nerving experience. So that's usually my territory. You know,
it's I you have no idea. I mentioned that. No.
I told my friend that as we were walking on,
like this feels like some Brendon would experience. So it's
just a lot of crap. Yeah, okay, yeah, So let
me tell you why I was there, and I tell
you where I was, and just get there. The whole
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story is just really fun because you know, the lead
is the scariest place I've ever been is in my
hometown where I grew up in Miama, Oklahoma. You bet,
m that's my idea. Yep, I was home. Oh I
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was greeded. That's that's even more disturbing, right. It is
so disturbing on so many levels. But it's a great
story because there's actually some really wonderful parts of it.
And I think, if you don't mind, I'd like to
just kind of tell the whole story about why I
was there and what that experience was, and then we'll
get to the actual haunting because it was in the
same building. Okay, here, so here we go. Um, y'all,
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I mean, because I haven't I haven't heard this either.
All my offset is have I a story. I'm like, okay,
bring it. It's more fun this way when you don't know,
it's just more fun. I get to listen with our listeners. Well,
and then you have the stuff that shows up and
like right, because you're you're not prepared, you don't know
what the hell it is yet. Um. So I happened
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double down on my protection while you're talking. So, um,
here's what happened. My friend Julie, because you know, the
other Julie was O j Um, you know, the most
fifth most popular name in the late sixties, So everybody,
all my contemporaries are named Julie Um and Julie her husband, Vulker,
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had actually lived with Suzanne and I during COVID because
they sold their house. Whatever. We're very close to her
husband and we love them dearly. And so Julie had
helped orchestrate this event in Miama to recognize the speech
team coach the leader. Her name is Barbara Smith. And
this woman is ex is it in every way, shape
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or form. She dedicated her life to these They called
themselves the speech kids. And they also, I mean they're
like they're a family. It's a beautiful thing. And they
all like had these beautiful I mean too I said
before how many times already, but it really was, um,
you know, honoring her all these speeches and recognition for her,
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and and and they call her bs which I think
is also really fun. B s is also eighty four.
And and for the record on fire, I mean, she
hasn't lost a damn beat. This woman is literally exquisite.
So they did this, this whole event, and they wanted
to do it obviously in Miama. And it had you know,
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speech kids from nineteen seventy two to nineteen ninety that's
when she taught. And there were kids that showed up
from the entire time that she taught. Talked about having
that impact, right, I mean, teachers have. It's such an
noble career and they have more impact than anybody than anybody, right,
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I mean, teachers, it's such a high calling and such
a such a really important role to playing in kids lives.
That's that's something so unselfish. And and Barbara had always
said from the get go, she told her kids that
she loved him, she was there for them whatever they needed.
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She also taught them, so keep in mind, like imagine
the kids that are in debate and speech and things
like that. They were kind of the nerdy ones. Let's
be honest, you know, because in high school. But again
in the high school hierarchy. Yeah, yeah, it goes sports, cheerleading, speech,
the band. I was gonna say when you said speech kids,
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I thought, oh, that's like the band does. Yeah, they're
they're like the band, um and so in and and
and even as adults they kind of, you know, they
still claim that, you know, we're like the Isle of
misfit toys. That's how they always saw themselves and how
they felt. But what Barbara did is that she taught
them how to communicate, how to express themselves. She taught
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them how critical thinking. So when you're debating, you must
have critical thinking. Can I tell you that every person
in that room had a degree, a high degree of
success in their life as a result right of working
with her. But I just have to say, like I'm
kind of having what is that sympathetic anxiety because like
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if they have to make a speech in her honor,
like that's a lot of pressure because everybody in the
room is you know, like speech people. It was oh
my god, it was so funny. But their hands, I
mean they were like they couldn't wait. They were performing.
They were doing one guy saying you know there are
multiple lawyers because you know, right there with the people,
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and it was just I mean, it was utter joy.
And then also attending was and I know I've talked
about her before, which is Caboman. We called her Cabo.
She's the one that I saw for my morbid birthday
last year. She's the one that is a deacon at
the church. Now. She taught foreign language at at at
the high school. Um a love of my life since
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I was a child. This woman has been exquisite to me.
So she was there, so I actually privately honored her
afterwards because it wasn't my show, right, like this whole thing.
I'm Julie's guest because her husband didn't want to go,
and Suzanne was worn happy to stay home and not
go right And it's okay to laugh. It's the beauty
of having a really nice relationship as you can really
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honest with each other about this kind of interest. I'm
not gonna love that, right, And her husband had zero interested.
He was so happy that I was going and and
on ago I drove her. So, so here we are
in Miama and we're in the the I think it's
it's like the Coleman event Room, which is sister to
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the Woman Theater, right, so um as people are talking
and telling their stories and they talk about, you know,
performing at the Coleman and all these types of things.
Julie turned to me and she goes, I need to
take you backstage afterwards. I go, you do, and she's like, yeah,
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we need to do this. You need to go experience
this now. Mind you, I'm gonna go back in time
for just a second and then we'll take a quick break.
Is we were at Barbara's house before the events, because
we rode into town and went to b S's house,
spent some time with her talking about by the way,
healing energy. She's like, yeah, everything's energy, Julie, Oh you
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this woman is your person. She goes everything is energy.
And we were talking about different things. I brought in
black term lane, you know, because that's what I'm always packing. Um.
So we had already started right the day, so to speak,
in this kind of place. And so Julie's like, Okay,
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it's time you need to go experience this because it's
unlike anything you've ever experienced before. So with that, why
don't we take a break. And I'm we're leaving a
tony clipping hanging. Ok I'll tell everybody what happened. Okay,
we'll be right back. Okay, we're back, and what's next?
(09:30):
What happened when you come back? Well, here's what happens.
So the Coleman Theater in Miama is this I don't
know the age. BS is actually writing a book about
the restoration of it, so there will be a point.
I can give details if anybody cares. But this is
very old. Hundred plus years old, has to be. There's
no way it's a minute younger than that. Um. And
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it's always been a stunning building and a stun in
also interior because as a kid, I remember we had
two movie theaters town. We had a Thunderbird and then
we had the Coleman, and the Thunderbird was the Thunderbird
twin and the Coleman was just in a single screen, right,
but it looked like something you can see on Broadway.
To tell you the truth, like it has it right,
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it has the different levels that yet super comfy seats,
incredibly ornate, right like the whole or Nate with a
capital or um did. But again I spent my childhood
going to the theater right and thinking, Then again I
was like a dumb jock, so what um? And by
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the way, if I could do it all over again,
I would have I would have joined the speech nerds.
Oh my god, I would have absolutely joined the speek.
I was like, yeah, absolutely anyway, so um. Angie was
there too, by the way, who you did the reading for? Yeah,
and she was there because she was a speech nerds.
Sorry I'm getting off track. So here we are. There's
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this giant or Nate beautiful and it's been restored word like,
it is absolutely gorgeous. And all I can say to Julius,
I wish we could just lift this up and take
it to someplace where get a lot more traffic, because
it's truly such an amazing experience to be and there.
It's really beautiful and so um. After the event, there's
so many doors to get back there. Julie's like, hey,
let's go through here and I want you to see
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what they've done and then we'll go back stage. And
so we walk out on the balcony and it's like
it's like breathtaking. Says, well, come on, let's make our
way down. So we go down and we walk up.
I guess stage right. I mean, I don't know the sides.
My right side is I'm facing the stage. Is that
stage right? Because this matters? Okay, So we go we
enter stage right, and I feel like a little bit
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of a jolt. I'm like whoa, yeah, yeah, I'm like, okay,
this is interesting. And of course, in typical O J fashion,
we had to cross the stage to go to stage
left to go up these stairs. And as we're crossing
the stage, there are a few people out there or
from the event, and so she of course has to
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do a little performance, and you know, so we are
delayed a little bit going to stage left because they're there.
You know, there was a mandatory performance. It was a
mandatory performance, and I did you know a few lines
of I Will Survive by m Floria Gainers. So I
did join in. And it's interesting because after I came
back down. I did feel like I had just survived something.
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So right, so we crossed the stage. Is o J,
I wonder that this is happening at all? Very and
o J is the one who had um sleep paralysis
and about five years ago because her daughter work came
to work for me at Fox Stan Rachel and when
she was leaving, she's like, oh, yeah, I've never been
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able to sleep. Dada, Dada is telling me about it.
And so I sent her home with a big box
of black turmaline and she hasn't had sleep paralysis since. Right,
so she and she even said when she was telling
b s earlier about it, She's like, I gotta tell you.
I thought I love reader, but I thought she was
full of ship. She's like full stop. I like, I
love her, stall listen and I'll give it a world.
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But I thought it was fullish rocks. But I'll take right,
I'll take her stupid rocks. And but I love her,
so I will entertain her. I mean she she said
it more like that many times, and and then she
got very serious and she said, listen to her. She's
right like because Julie's converted, because her life changed, right,
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so she's very well aware. And Julie has clairvoyance, so
Julie can see, she sees dead people, she sees all
sorts of stuff like she's she sees. So yes, she's
very well aware. She doesn't know what it is though.
So we crossed the stage after my song and we
go up this very like you see in there where
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they like the makeup room and stuff. But it was
to the left of the makeup room. This is narrow staircase.
I honestly don't know where it led because you'll understand
why couldn't make it to the top. So we hit
the stairway. I start to physically feel ill, like ill,
not like I got a hit, because you know me,
I walk into this stuff and I'm like, suck these fuckers.
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I'm in charge, right, that is not what happened. Fuck me,
I was in charge. I mean I was not in charge.
They were in charge. I started to start. You were
on their ground, right, I was on their ground. But
and now so I think I know what it was,
and I want to talk to you about this after
you hear the full story. So um, we go of
each step. Julie had problems breathing, like she was getting like,
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you know, kind of gasping. I start coughing, like I
was going to throw up, like I felt it in
my step and I was not coughing. I was gay,
you know that terrible sound. Me ps not not my jam,
not how I've ever responded the right exactly. So we
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made it up kind of the first flight. Julie's a
few steps ahead of me. I take a few more
steps up. I was afraid I was going to projectile vomits.
The shitty Italian food I just eat all over the walls.
Never good luck, especially Italian fan. And there was a
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Marinara involved, so it could have looked like blood can
sope And I stopped and I looked at her and
I didn't I couldn't speak, and I'm going I can
feel it again. Um, I start going back down and
I'm still trying to not projectile. And does she see
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what's happening for you? Julie hands down. Well, she's also
having a hard time herself. And so we get down
to the bottom and I was take a few steps
and I was able to compose myself fairly quickly on this,
and I said, so I have a few questions. One
of those. I said, has it always felt like this?
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And she said, no, not this intense. And that's a
very that's a funny answer because as it always felt
like this, that implies yes, it's always felt like this,
just not this intense it has. And that's the that's
the piece of it is that Julie's like, there's always
been something here, like always something has been here. And
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see I wouldn't even know, right, I was like the
stupid jock, So why would I go everage other backstage
of theory and why would anybody ever tell me because
I was stupid jock? Right? Wow? Yeah, I mean it's fair,
you know, it's totally fine that I didn't know until now,
and I didn't need to know till now. Uh So
she said, um, she goes, this is the most intense
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that I've ever felt it, and she goes, I've always
had problems going up there, even when they were doing
like plays or performances or whatever, it was, still had
trouble going up there. So I'm like, oh, so this
is the worst it's ever the most intense that it's
ever felt to you, And she's like yeah, and I
go I'll have another question. She goes, what's that? And
I go, they really don't show movies here anymore, do they?
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She was, no, they this mainly plays. I went got you.
I said, we're going to talk about this when we
leave the building, because I'm not going to talk about
it right now. I don't want them to hear me.
It was that kind of move, right. You know exactly
where I'm going, don't you, And you know exactly what
it is. I have a guess, but I want to
hear the story. Yeah, So we we walk out and
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by the time she wanted you to see, was this
is she wanted you to experience this. Yeah, she did,
but she didn't tell you beforehand, not like the nope, okay, nope.
And I still love her, but but she couldn't have
told you about this because it's never been like this. No,
it was never that intense. She was very clear that
it's never been that intense. And the feeling that I had,
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I mean, it was you know, I'm not prone to
stomach issues, not my thing. I am prone to congestion
as Siginus congest right, So if I had congestion up there,
would have thought really much of it, you know, if
I would have had a like a a blistering headache
that would have kind of triggered me goes, something's wrong.
But the fact that it was the stomach never by
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the way, and do I have stomach issues? So I
know it's foreign, right, even though it was kind of
crappy Italian, I say crappy, but let's be honest. And
I had no pasta f y I but it was
just like you know, it wasn't. I was hoping it
would be all of garden adjacent, is what I was hoping.
It was so um funny. You welcome all of garden.
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You can pay eye heart later for that. Um so
so um. We get to the lobby where all the
candy used to be by the way, um, and I
looked at her and I go, are we going? And
we ready to go? Can we go, like just go
sort this out in the car and she's like, yeah,
let's go. We walk outside. It's like nothing ever happened.
It's all gone, Okay, let's come back. You're not gonna
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talk about I'm gonna tell what I think it is.
And I have a feeling that you think it's the
same thing. We'll be right back, all right, and welcome back.
Thanks Oh so this is the thing that's so interesting
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is how it left when you left the territory because
like that's not my personal experience, Like, no, it's gone. Yeah,
it was gone. Also keep in mind because you made
me lock my car down energetically, so it can't follow
me anyway, Like it's not it's not a possibility. But
I don't think it was a single thing. Here's what
I think. And it goes back to one of our
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all time favorite jokes, which is poulter Geist is not
a comedy and um uh. Eons ago, Fox hired Brenda
to go on the set of Poulter guyst to keep
it kind of clear because they were having issues. In fact,
you the original Poulter Guys, there were a lot there
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were deaths and a lot of serious accidents. And when
we first talked about this feels like a lifetime ago.
What you had said to me. Everything always goes back
to Brenda, w W B d um uh. You said
that the other side doesn't know when we're play acting
or when we're serious. And because the energy gets activated,
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the energy is activated. And I said to Julie, and
so I so Julie will get back in the contents,
like what do you think? And I told her that.
I said, I go, well, let me tell you poulter
Geist is not a comedy. But you know when I
talked told her about when you went on set to
go take care of everybody and how they don't know right,
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like what we just talked about. And she looked at
me and I said, I bet if we looked at
the last ten twenty years of plays that have been
performed there, we could probably tell you what activated it.
And I will also tell you what I saw, um
and I saw in the car. I didn't see it there.
I saw it when I was a little clear. But
I did see an upside down pentagram. Yes I did.
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I have chills. I saw it. I saw an I
didn't know what it was. I saw the circle, but
it was I saw an upside down pentagram. And I
told Julie, I said, let me have chills. O whoa Okay,
hold on, angels? Is there a song I can sing
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to call them in? Calling all angels? Okay? So um,
I told Julie, I go, now, I think that what
we're dealing with in that space are a lot of layers.
And I said I wouldn't be surprised if through the
years that people were practicing not knowing what they were doing. Probably,
but there was probably some witchcraft or something that was
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being practiced there, or it could have been a play.
Something happened. And I think there's a portal in that
in that um, in that theater, is what I told Julia.
I go. I think there's a portal um And it's
not a nice portal, but there's a portal there, and
I feel like it's right under the stairs. Oh right, right,
walk fuck I got moose bills. Oh I walked into
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a portal. W you walked through it? Well, I don't
think you got through it. I think you came back
and back without going on. Yeah, you got halfway in
and was like I'm out all over my body. Like
if this were a TV show, it would be so good.
They could like totally zoom in. Every hair on my
body is standing like at attention on end. And I
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just want to say to our listeners, you all have
had this experience on some level. You may not have
walked through a portal, but when you looked across the
bar at somebody and you're like, oh no, no, I
never met that person. But no, this is not happening.
I don't know what it is, but wrong full stop. Though,
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Like you've had these experiences where your whole body talks
to you, and how's you get out what my body did? Yeah,
and that did. Please pay attention to that. It doesn't
matter if it's someone else is talking about something and
you have a reaction to it, or if you experience
it personally real time, Like, please pay attention to this.
These are all really strong signals to guide you, to
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support you, to keep you alive, I keep you well,
and to keep your crappy Italian down. I mean it is.
It was the most alarming that my body has ever
felt in a situation like that. And I've been to
some nasty places, let's be honest. Yeah, well this is
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so interesting because when my impression is there was something
in a play right that they were doing that didn't
necessarily have an inverted pentagram. But then like and these
were separate things, they weren't necessarily the same event. And
then you know how cast members will hang out before
or after rehearsal, after performances, maybe do a seance, like
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but they didn't know what they were doing, maybe play
with a freaking Luigi board. That's right. And and so
the energy that was activated got reactivated and reactivated and
reactivated over the century that there's been around until it
actually created a portal, because it's likely that it wasn't
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an actual upside down pentagram, because keep in mind, I
get I get signs, and that could have been my
sign for something with it. This way is like here
it is, here's here's a black hole you will not
come out of. Oh my god, I I mean yeah,
and it's it's really thick, like it's really and uh yeah,
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I can't even tell you how thick it is. Yeah,
so incredibly thick. I really feel like I need to
volunteer and go see if I can take care of it.
It is my hometown after all. Yeah, so you kept
coming to mind for me as a starter. Who would
keep who would give you permission to do something like that? Bs? Okay,
(25:15):
Oh she can, okay, okay, great, I mean she'll talk
to Yeah. In fact, the guy who runs it is
one of her former students. So I mean, listen, I
told Julie, I go, I'm going to talk with Brenda,
because that's always say I'm like, I need to come
uh so I don't, you know, get thrown into a
poulter Geist because even though it's it is not a comedy.
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Um uh, but I said this, you know, I feel
like it's something that would be worthwhile doing. Um, we
can talk about what I need to do off of this,
and we can report back, you know, like we can
have a continue action. But yeah, follow up. But I
think that I do need to go try to take
care of this and of course gain permission to do this.
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And apparently it's not a secret by the way of
all the Oh gosh, no, there's been so many people
backstage there exactly, and they've had they've had things missing,
they've had people trip and fall in that space. They've
had bet all kinds of things. Yeah, you bet. And uh,
of course my joke is you got to have a
lesbian save thissbian. That's what the that's what the follow
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up will be, will be the lesbian save Thesbian. You
can you can sell T shirts at the event. My god,
oh my T shirts are everything be nex only, but yeah,
it would be amazing. Yeah. So I think when the
haunted places in the United States is where I grew up. Yeah,
that makes sense, that's weird right, well kind of perfect
actually kind of perfect. You know, we also have another
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really crazy thing out there. Um and they've had like
unsolved mysteries. Has has been out to my hometown multiple
times for different things. By the way, I'm sure I
can't stop cappling because of twelve thousand people would be
a good road Flint closed down in the mid eighties.
I mean it's like it's nothing right and so um
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So now we have the haunted to me, one of
the most haunted places in the world, if not certainly
in our country. But then we have a thing that's
called the spook Light and it is and I've seen it.
Oh yeah, I've seen. As kids with midnight you'd go
out to like because everything was a dirt road. So
there's a dirt road for the Spooklight. There's a dirt road.
We'd all go smoke pot on. I mean everything. It
looks a different dirt road for a different purpose. So
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we got to this Spooklight dirt road and there is
a ball of light and it follows you. It will go.
I've seen it's got in the car in front. Oh yeah,
they there's no explanation. People think it's from it's it's
the gases from the mining that happened, you know, a
town over. I'm like, no, it's not as something else.
So I just want to I just want to thank
her and thank our listeners so that I can participate
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in this podcast to find out these things. What the hell?
What one episode is this? And I mean about your
spooklight now right, well it was raise your hand if
you had a spooklight in neontowntown. That's not a thing.
We could totally rip off my favorite murder girls when
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they do hometown stories. We could do hometown ghost stories,
hometown hometown spook lights. Yeah, well I have one. Um
oh yeah, there's a list of stuff that went on
that town. So it's the craziest sort of place. But
I know, I didn't realize it was that small of
a town. I mean, it's very small town. I had
no idea very small time with a really amazing, beautiful
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haunted theater. So are you going to like take it
off the map because it won't be haunted anymore after that?
I don't think it's on the map. I think that
it has missed all the I think, like, whoever all
the authors of the Most Haunted whatever's are, it needs
to be put on it until I take care of it,
because but I don't want anybody to be hurt, you know.
That's my biggest concern is I don't I don't want
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anybody to get hurt because I know they have and
I just nobody's Yeah, because it's stronger that it gets,
the more dangerous it becomes. And um, I'm more of
service in this whole thing than I am this, you know.
So this is the thing. Do you pre work, like
set all your grids up ahead of time. And remember
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the energy in general is subtle. So that's why people
many people don't notice it because they go in slowly
knowing that they have a whole run to get the
other people's energy. Like that's basically what they're trying to do, right,
sort of disorganize your energy so they have access, if
that makes sense. And um, so you're gonna set all
your grids ahead of time so that yeah, so that
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you can you can go and slow. That makes sense right? Um?
But I feel like they knew how strong, you know,
the the Julie duo was, and so that's where they
came in fast. They came in fast and hard. They
came in fast and hard. They were hoping to disorder
you and just get you out. Yeah, they sure, we're
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that's exactly They just didn't realize them won't come back.
They don't know who they're messing with. The person who
wanted to name one of her chapters in the book,
the devil is afraid of me, who they're messing with.
They didn't scare me. I just needed to get my compote,
my like physical composial. There's the thing. Next time I
go win, it will not be that way. You can
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shot me once but the end sucker's yea, but I
feel I'll tell what else I feel, and I we
need to finish this episode up then later. But um um,
but it felt like there was a there is a
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guard of the portal and if the the image I
can give you and if you guys could see me.
My eyes are rolling around right now, looking up around
like trying to get the right image for Brenda and
you guys is like kind of like how Hades were,
how they depict hades in the underworld, you know, um
with the boat we ever seen maybe I've watched too
many movies probably case if anybody has seen Percy Jackson.
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You'll know what I'm talking about, because they had hades
manning a boat and that kind of like, you know,
do me gloomy looking of what how? Sometimes they like
death right, like that's how they present any sometimes. But
it feels like there's a guard there that I have
to tussle with. First four of them? Fuck all right,
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I saw one, Okay, I got four? Got it all right? Well,
everybody to be continued, stay tuned. Hopefully I'll be back.
I'm betting on you. Yeah. Yeah, they don't stand it. Well,
it's it's not their place, no, but they've stayed there
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a long time and they were strong. Yeah. Um, And
I also know I had to go alone. I can't
take anybody in with me because it's uh like Julie
can't do it. She can see stuff that she can't
go in. She said, side. You know this is something
I remember the man who cleared my hunted airbnb m
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this would be his work too. Just we should call
him to Yeah, I could be in person. I could
be on the phone with him. He would be he
can come too. Oh here we go. Yeah, alright, okay,
we're gonna take there of this. I'm hoping I'd like
to take care of it. The next thirty days is
my goal. We'll see um how life and schedules look,
but this is a priority. Um so yeah, to be continued,
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around so that I can hear these stories too, and
remember her school is hard. Oh, definitely without the other side,
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Welcome to Insider's Guide to the Other Side, a production
of My Heart Radio. Hi, y'all, I'm Julie. Hi there,
I'm Brenda. Welcome to Insider's Guide to the Other Side. Now,
y'all need to know that we are obsessed with everything
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learn to navigate the energetic, or to some the invisible world,
life is going to be more fun and much more serene. Heck,
yes it can, because, let's be honest, Brand, earth school
is hard. In fact, you taught me that let's crush
Earth School together. Well, hello, my witchy pooh, have I
(00:45):
got a scary ass story for you? Oh, my favorite greeting.
That's awesome. Oh, I can't wait. First of all, I
always love your stories, and second of all, it's a
spooky one. Yeah, Brand, I mean, what have you been
up to? My alpha? I know it's like I didn't
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go looking for it, not intentionally, So let me just
start with that. So not intentionally I did not go
looking for it, but yet, and yet I stumbled upon.
I cannot lie because well I lie about this. I
mean so good, right, the tude is so good. I
just lie about my weight probably about all I lie about.
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But um, but it I mean, it is the scariest
place I've ever been to. M. Okay, wait a minute,
because you have been in some funco situations, Yes I have, Yes,
I have, indeed, and this was an immensely scary, upsetting,
(01:49):
a nerving experience. So that's usually my territory. You know,
it's I you have no idea. I mentioned that. No.
I told my friend that as we were walking on,
like this feels like some Brendon would experience. So it's
just a lot of crap. Yeah, okay, yeah, So let
me tell you why I was there, and I tell
you where I was, and just get there. The whole
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story is just really fun because you know, the lead
is the scariest place I've ever been is in my
hometown where I grew up in Miama, Oklahoma. You bet,
m that's my idea. Yep, I was home. Oh I
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was greeded. That's that's even more disturbing, right. It is
so disturbing on so many levels. But it's a great
story because there's actually some really wonderful parts of it.
And I think, if you don't mind, I'd like to
just kind of tell the whole story about why I
was there and what that experience was, and then we'll
get to the actual haunting because it was in the
same building. Okay, here, so here we go. Um, y'all,
(02:55):
I mean, because I haven't I haven't heard this either.
All my offset is have I a story. I'm like, okay,
bring it. It's more fun this way when you don't know,
it's just more fun. I get to listen with our listeners. Well,
and then you have the stuff that shows up and
like right, because you're you're not prepared, you don't know
what the hell it is yet. Um. So I happened
(03:16):
double down on my protection while you're talking. So, um,
here's what happened. My friend Julie, because you know, the
other Julie was O j Um, you know, the most
fifth most popular name in the late sixties, So everybody,
all my contemporaries are named Julie Um and Julie her husband, Vulker,
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had actually lived with Suzanne and I during COVID because
they sold their house. Whatever. We're very close to her
husband and we love them dearly. And so Julie had
helped orchestrate this event in Miama to recognize the speech
team coach the leader. Her name is Barbara Smith. And
this woman is ex is it in every way, shape
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or form. She dedicated her life to these They called
themselves the speech kids. And they also, I mean they're
like they're a family. It's a beautiful thing. And they
all like had these beautiful I mean too I said
before how many times already, but it really was, um,
you know, honoring her all these speeches and recognition for her,
(04:21):
and and and they call her bs which I think
is also really fun. B s is also eighty four.
And and for the record on fire, I mean, she
hasn't lost a damn beat. This woman is literally exquisite.
So they did this, this whole event, and they wanted
to do it obviously in Miama. And it had you know,
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speech kids from nineteen seventy two to nineteen ninety that's
when she taught. And there were kids that showed up
from the entire time that she taught. Talked about having
that impact, right, I mean, teachers have. It's such an
noble career and they have more impact than anybody than anybody, right,
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I mean, teachers, it's such a high calling and such
a such a really important role to playing in kids lives.
That's that's something so unselfish. And and Barbara had always
said from the get go, she told her kids that
she loved him, she was there for them whatever they needed.
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She also taught them, so keep in mind, like imagine
the kids that are in debate and speech and things
like that. They were kind of the nerdy ones. Let's
be honest, you know, because in high school. But again
in the high school hierarchy. Yeah, yeah, it goes sports, cheerleading, speech,
the band. I was gonna say when you said speech kids,
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I thought, oh, that's like the band does. Yeah, they're
they're like the band, um and so in and and
and even as adults they kind of, you know, they
still claim that, you know, we're like the Isle of
misfit toys. That's how they always saw themselves and how
they felt. But what Barbara did is that she taught
them how to communicate, how to express themselves. She taught
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them how critical thinking. So when you're debating, you must
have critical thinking. Can I tell you that every person
in that room had a degree, a high degree of
success in their life as a result right of working
with her. But I just have to say, like I'm
kind of having what is that sympathetic anxiety because like
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if they have to make a speech in her honor,
like that's a lot of pressure because everybody in the
room is you know, like speech people. It was oh
my god, it was so funny. But their hands, I
mean they were like they couldn't wait. They were performing.
They were doing one guy saying you know there are
multiple lawyers because you know, right there with the people,
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and it was just I mean, it was utter joy.
And then also attending was and I know I've talked
about her before, which is Caboman. We called her Cabo.
She's the one that I saw for my morbid birthday
last year. She's the one that is a deacon at
the church. Now. She taught foreign language at at at
the high school. Um a love of my life since
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I was a child. This woman has been exquisite to me.
So she was there, so I actually privately honored her
afterwards because it wasn't my show, right, like this whole thing.
I'm Julie's guest because her husband didn't want to go,
and Suzanne was worn happy to stay home and not
go right And it's okay to laugh. It's the beauty
of having a really nice relationship as you can really
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honest with each other about this kind of interest. I'm
not gonna love that, right, And her husband had zero interested.
He was so happy that I was going and and
on ago I drove her. So, so here we are
in Miama and we're in the the I think it's
it's like the Coleman event Room, which is sister to
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the Woman Theater, right, so um as people are talking
and telling their stories and they talk about, you know,
performing at the Coleman and all these types of things.
Julie turned to me and she goes, I need to
take you backstage afterwards. I go, you do, and she's like, yeah,
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we need to do this. You need to go experience
this now. Mind you, I'm gonna go back in time
for just a second and then we'll take a quick break.
Is we were at Barbara's house before the events, because
we rode into town and went to b S's house,
spent some time with her talking about by the way,
healing energy. She's like, yeah, everything's energy, Julie, Oh you
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this woman is your person. She goes everything is energy.
And we were talking about different things. I brought in
black term lane, you know, because that's what I'm always packing. Um.
So we had already started right the day, so to speak,
in this kind of place. And so Julie's like, Okay,
(09:04):
it's time you need to go experience this because it's
unlike anything you've ever experienced before. So with that, why
don't we take a break. And I'm we're leaving a
tony clipping hanging. Ok I'll tell everybody what happened. Okay,
we'll be right back. Okay, we're back, and what's next?
(09:30):
What happened when you come back? Well, here's what happens.
So the Coleman Theater in Miama is this I don't
know the age. BS is actually writing a book about
the restoration of it, so there will be a point.
I can give details if anybody cares. But this is
very old. Hundred plus years old, has to be. There's
no way it's a minute younger than that. Um. And
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it's always been a stunning building and a stun in
also interior because as a kid, I remember we had
two movie theaters town. We had a Thunderbird and then
we had the Coleman, and the Thunderbird was the Thunderbird
twin and the Coleman was just in a single screen, right,
but it looked like something you can see on Broadway.
To tell you the truth, like it has it right,
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it has the different levels that yet super comfy seats,
incredibly ornate, right like the whole or Nate with a
capital or um did. But again I spent my childhood
going to the theater right and thinking, Then again I
was like a dumb jock, so what um? And by
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the way, if I could do it all over again,
I would have I would have joined the speech nerds.
Oh my god, I would have absolutely joined the speek.
I was like, yeah, absolutely anyway, so um. Angie was
there too, by the way, who you did the reading for? Yeah,
and she was there because she was a speech nerds.
Sorry I'm getting off track. So here we are. There's
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this giant or Nate beautiful and it's been restored word like,
it is absolutely gorgeous. And all I can say to Julius,
I wish we could just lift this up and take
it to someplace where get a lot more traffic, because
it's truly such an amazing experience to be and there.
It's really beautiful and so um. After the event, there's
so many doors to get back there. Julie's like, hey,
let's go through here and I want you to see
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what they've done and then we'll go back stage. And
so we walk out on the balcony and it's like
it's like breathtaking. Says, well, come on, let's make our
way down. So we go down and we walk up.
I guess stage right. I mean, I don't know the sides.
My right side is I'm facing the stage. Is that
stage right? Because this matters? Okay, So we go we
enter stage right, and I feel like a little bit
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of a jolt. I'm like whoa, yeah, yeah, I'm like, okay,
this is interesting. And of course, in typical O J fashion,
we had to cross the stage to go to stage
left to go up these stairs. And as we're crossing
the stage, there are a few people out there or
from the event, and so she of course has to
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do a little performance, and you know, so we are
delayed a little bit going to stage left because they're there.
You know, there was a mandatory performance. It was a
mandatory performance, and I did you know a few lines
of I Will Survive by m Floria Gainers. So I
did join in. And it's interesting because after I came
back down. I did feel like I had just survived something.
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So right, so we crossed the stage. Is o J,
I wonder that this is happening at all? Very and
o J is the one who had um sleep paralysis
and about five years ago because her daughter work came
to work for me at Fox Stan Rachel and when
she was leaving, she's like, oh, yeah, I've never been
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able to sleep. Dada, Dada is telling me about it.
And so I sent her home with a big box
of black turmaline and she hasn't had sleep paralysis since. Right,
so she and she even said when she was telling
b s earlier about it, She's like, I gotta tell you.
I thought I love reader, but I thought she was
full of ship. She's like full stop. I like, I
love her, stall listen and I'll give it a world.
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But I thought it was fullish rocks. But I'll take right,
I'll take her stupid rocks. And but I love her,
so I will entertain her. I mean she she said
it more like that many times, and and then she
got very serious and she said, listen to her. She's
right like because Julie's converted, because her life changed, right,
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so she's very well aware. And Julie has clairvoyance, so
Julie can see, she sees dead people, she sees all
sorts of stuff like she's she sees. So yes, she's
very well aware. She doesn't know what it is though.
So we crossed the stage after my song and we
go up this very like you see in there where
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they like the makeup room and stuff. But it was
to the left of the makeup room. This is narrow staircase.
I honestly don't know where it led because you'll understand
why couldn't make it to the top. So we hit
the stairway. I start to physically feel ill, like ill,
not like I got a hit, because you know me,
I walk into this stuff and I'm like, suck these fuckers.
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I'm in charge, right, that is not what happened. Fuck me,
I was in charge. I mean I was not in charge.
They were in charge. I started to start. You were
on their ground, right, I was on their ground. But
and now so I think I know what it was,
and I want to talk to you about this after
you hear the full story. So um, we go of
each step. Julie had problems breathing, like she was getting like,
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you know, kind of gasping. I start coughing, like I
was going to throw up, like I felt it in
my step and I was not coughing. I was gay,
you know that terrible sound. Me ps not not my jam,
not how I've ever responded the right exactly. So we
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made it up kind of the first flight. Julie's a
few steps ahead of me. I take a few more
steps up. I was afraid I was going to projectile vomits.
The shitty Italian food I just eat all over the walls.
Never good luck, especially Italian fan. And there was a
(15:17):
Marinara involved, so it could have looked like blood can
sope And I stopped and I looked at her and
I didn't I couldn't speak, and I'm going I can
feel it again. Um, I start going back down and
I'm still trying to not projectile. And does she see
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what's happening for you? Julie hands down. Well, she's also
having a hard time herself. And so we get down
to the bottom and I was take a few steps
and I was able to compose myself fairly quickly on this,
and I said, so I have a few questions. One
of those. I said, has it always felt like this?
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And she said, no, not this intense. And that's a
very that's a funny answer because as it always felt
like this, that implies yes, it's always felt like this,
just not this intense it has. And that's the that's
the piece of it is that Julie's like, there's always
been something here, like always something has been here. And
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see I wouldn't even know, right, I was like the
stupid jock, So why would I go everage other backstage
of theory and why would anybody ever tell me because
I was stupid jock? Right? Wow? Yeah, I mean it's fair,
you know, it's totally fine that I didn't know until now,
and I didn't need to know till now. Uh So
she said, um, she goes, this is the most intense
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that I've ever felt it, and she goes, I've always
had problems going up there, even when they were doing
like plays or performances or whatever, it was, still had
trouble going up there. So I'm like, oh, so this
is the worst it's ever the most intense that it's
ever felt to you, And she's like yeah, and I
go I'll have another question. She goes, what's that? And
I go, they really don't show movies here anymore, do they?
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She was, no, they this mainly plays. I went got you.
I said, we're going to talk about this when we
leave the building, because I'm not going to talk about
it right now. I don't want them to hear me.
It was that kind of move, right. You know exactly
where I'm going, don't you, And you know exactly what
it is. I have a guess, but I want to
hear the story. Yeah, So we we walk out and
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by the time she wanted you to see, was this
is she wanted you to experience this. Yeah, she did,
but she didn't tell you beforehand, not like the nope, okay, nope.
And I still love her, but but she couldn't have
told you about this because it's never been like this. No,
it was never that intense. She was very clear that
it's never been that intense. And the feeling that I had,
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I mean, it was you know, I'm not prone to
stomach issues, not my thing. I am prone to congestion
as Siginus congest right, So if I had congestion up there,
would have thought really much of it, you know, if
I would have had a like a a blistering headache
that would have kind of triggered me goes, something's wrong.
But the fact that it was the stomach never by
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the way, and do I have stomach issues? So I
know it's foreign, right, even though it was kind of
crappy Italian, I say crappy, but let's be honest. And
I had no pasta f y I but it was
just like you know, it wasn't. I was hoping it
would be all of garden adjacent, is what I was hoping.
It was so um funny. You welcome all of garden.
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You can pay eye heart later for that. Um so
so um. We get to the lobby where all the
candy used to be by the way, um, and I
looked at her and I go, are we going? And
we ready to go? Can we go, like just go
sort this out in the car and she's like, yeah,
let's go. We walk outside. It's like nothing ever happened.
It's all gone, Okay, let's come back. You're not gonna
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talk about I'm gonna tell what I think it is.
And I have a feeling that you think it's the
same thing. We'll be right back, all right, and welcome back.
Thanks Oh so this is the thing that's so interesting
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is how it left when you left the territory because
like that's not my personal experience, Like, no, it's gone. Yeah,
it was gone. Also keep in mind because you made
me lock my car down energetically, so it can't follow
me anyway, Like it's not it's not a possibility. But
I don't think it was a single thing. Here's what
I think. And it goes back to one of our
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all time favorite jokes, which is poulter Geist is not
a comedy and um uh. Eons ago, Fox hired Brenda
to go on the set of Poulter guyst to keep
it kind of clear because they were having issues. In fact,
you the original Poulter Guys, there were a lot there
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were deaths and a lot of serious accidents. And when
we first talked about this feels like a lifetime ago.
What you had said to me. Everything always goes back
to Brenda, w W B d um uh. You said
that the other side doesn't know when we're play acting
or when we're serious. And because the energy gets activated,
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the energy is activated. And I said to Julie, and
so I so Julie will get back in the contents,
like what do you think? And I told her that.
I said, I go, well, let me tell you poulter
Geist is not a comedy. But you know when I
talked told her about when you went on set to
go take care of everybody and how they don't know right,
(20:48):
like what we just talked about. And she looked at
me and I said, I bet if we looked at
the last ten twenty years of plays that have been
performed there, we could probably tell you what activated it.
And I will also tell you what I saw, um
and I saw in the car. I didn't see it there.
I saw it when I was a little clear. But
I did see an upside down pentagram. Yes I did.
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I have chills. I saw it. I saw an I
didn't know what it was. I saw the circle, but
it was I saw an upside down pentagram. And I
told Julie, I said, let me have chills. O whoa Okay,
hold on, angels? Is there a song I can sing
(21:34):
to call them in? Calling all angels? Okay? So um,
I told Julie, I go, now, I think that what
we're dealing with in that space are a lot of layers.
And I said I wouldn't be surprised if through the
years that people were practicing not knowing what they were doing. Probably,
but there was probably some witchcraft or something that was
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being practiced there, or it could have been a play.
Something happened. And I think there's a portal in that
in that um, in that theater, is what I told Julia.
I go. I think there's a portal um And it's
not a nice portal, but there's a portal there, and
I feel like it's right under the stairs. Oh right, right,
walk fuck I got moose bills. Oh I walked into
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a portal. W you walked through it? Well, I don't
think you got through it. I think you came back
and back without going on. Yeah, you got halfway in
and was like I'm out all over my body. Like
if this were a TV show, it would be so good.
They could like totally zoom in. Every hair on my
body is standing like at attention on end. And I
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just want to say to our listeners, you all have
had this experience on some level. You may not have
walked through a portal, but when you looked across the
bar at somebody and you're like, oh no, no, I
never met that person. But no, this is not happening.
I don't know what it is, but wrong full stop. Though,
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Like you've had these experiences where your whole body talks
to you, and how's you get out what my body did? Yeah,
and that did. Please pay attention to that. It doesn't
matter if it's someone else is talking about something and
you have a reaction to it, or if you experience
it personally real time, Like, please pay attention to this.
These are all really strong signals to guide you, to
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support you, to keep you alive, I keep you well,
and to keep your crappy Italian down. I mean it is.
It was the most alarming that my body has ever
felt in a situation like that. And I've been to
some nasty places, let's be honest. Yeah, well this is
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so interesting because when my impression is there was something
in a play right that they were doing that didn't
necessarily have an inverted pentagram. But then like and these
were separate things, they weren't necessarily the same event. And
then you know how cast members will hang out before
or after rehearsal, after performances, maybe do a seance, like
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but they didn't know what they were doing, maybe play
with a freaking Luigi board. That's right. And and so
the energy that was activated got reactivated and reactivated and
reactivated over the century that there's been around until it
actually created a portal, because it's likely that it wasn't
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an actual upside down pentagram, because keep in mind, I
get I get signs, and that could have been my
sign for something with it. This way is like here
it is, here's here's a black hole you will not
come out of. Oh my god, I I mean yeah,
and it's it's really thick, like it's really and uh yeah,
(24:54):
I can't even tell you how thick it is. Yeah,
so incredibly thick. I really feel like I need to
volunteer and go see if I can take care of it.
It is my hometown after all. Yeah, so you kept
coming to mind for me as a starter. Who would
keep who would give you permission to do something like that? Bs? Okay,
(25:15):
Oh she can, okay, okay, great, I mean she'll talk
to Yeah. In fact, the guy who runs it is
one of her former students. So I mean, listen, I
told Julie, I go, I'm going to talk with Brenda,
because that's always say I'm like, I need to come
uh so I don't, you know, get thrown into a
poulter Geist because even though it's it is not a comedy.
(25:36):
Um uh, but I said this, you know, I feel
like it's something that would be worthwhile doing. Um, we
can talk about what I need to do off of this,
and we can report back, you know, like we can
have a continue action. But yeah, follow up. But I
think that I do need to go try to take
care of this and of course gain permission to do this.
(25:57):
And apparently it's not a secret by the way of
all the Oh gosh, no, there's been so many people
backstage there exactly, and they've had they've had things missing,
they've had people trip and fall in that space. They've
had bet all kinds of things. Yeah, you bet. And uh,
of course my joke is you got to have a
lesbian save thissbian. That's what the that's what the follow
(26:26):
up will be, will be the lesbian save Thesbian. You
can you can sell T shirts at the event. My god,
oh my T shirts are everything be nex only, but yeah,
it would be amazing. Yeah. So I think when the
haunted places in the United States is where I grew up. Yeah,
that makes sense, that's weird right, well kind of perfect
actually kind of perfect. You know, we also have another
(26:47):
really crazy thing out there. Um and they've had like
unsolved mysteries. Has has been out to my hometown multiple
times for different things. By the way, I'm sure I
can't stop cappling because of twelve thousand people would be
a good road Flint closed down in the mid eighties.
I mean it's like it's nothing right and so um
(27:08):
So now we have the haunted to me, one of
the most haunted places in the world, if not certainly
in our country. But then we have a thing that's
called the spook Light and it is and I've seen it.
Oh yeah, I've seen. As kids with midnight you'd go
out to like because everything was a dirt road. So
there's a dirt road for the Spooklight. There's a dirt road.
We'd all go smoke pot on. I mean everything. It
looks a different dirt road for a different purpose. So
(27:29):
we got to this Spooklight dirt road and there is
a ball of light and it follows you. It will go.
I've seen it's got in the car in front. Oh yeah,
they there's no explanation. People think it's from it's it's
the gases from the mining that happened, you know, a
town over. I'm like, no, it's not as something else.
So I just want to I just want to thank
her and thank our listeners so that I can participate
(27:52):
in this podcast to find out these things. What the hell?
What one episode is this? And I mean about your
spooklight now right, well it was raise your hand if
you had a spooklight in neontowntown. That's not a thing.
We could totally rip off my favorite murder girls when
(28:13):
they do hometown stories. We could do hometown ghost stories,
hometown hometown spook lights. Yeah, well I have one. Um
oh yeah, there's a list of stuff that went on
that town. So it's the craziest sort of place. But
I know, I didn't realize it was that small of
a town. I mean, it's very small town. I had
no idea very small time with a really amazing, beautiful
(28:36):
haunted theater. So are you going to like take it
off the map because it won't be haunted anymore after that?
I don't think it's on the map. I think that
it has missed all the I think, like, whoever all
the authors of the Most Haunted whatever's are, it needs
to be put on it until I take care of it,
because but I don't want anybody to be hurt, you know.
That's my biggest concern is I don't I don't want
(28:57):
anybody to get hurt because I know they have and
I just nobody's Yeah, because it's stronger that it gets,
the more dangerous it becomes. And um, I'm more of
service in this whole thing than I am this, you know.
So this is the thing. Do you pre work, like
set all your grids up ahead of time. And remember
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the energy in general is subtle. So that's why people
many people don't notice it because they go in slowly
knowing that they have a whole run to get the
other people's energy. Like that's basically what they're trying to do, right,
sort of disorganize your energy so they have access, if
that makes sense. And um, so you're gonna set all
your grids ahead of time so that yeah, so that
(29:40):
you can you can go and slow. That makes sense right? Um?
But I feel like they knew how strong, you know,
the the Julie duo was, and so that's where they
came in fast. They came in fast and hard. They
came in fast and hard. They were hoping to disorder
you and just get you out. Yeah, they sure, we're
(30:00):
that's exactly They just didn't realize them won't come back.
They don't know who they're messing with. The person who
wanted to name one of her chapters in the book,
the devil is afraid of me, who they're messing with.
They didn't scare me. I just needed to get my compote,
my like physical composial. There's the thing. Next time I
go win, it will not be that way. You can
(30:22):
shot me once but the end sucker's yea, but I
feel I'll tell what else I feel, and I we
need to finish this episode up then later. But um um,
but it felt like there was a there is a
(30:42):
guard of the portal and if the the image I
can give you and if you guys could see me.
My eyes are rolling around right now, looking up around
like trying to get the right image for Brenda and
you guys is like kind of like how Hades were,
how they depict hades in the underworld, you know, um
with the boat we ever seen maybe I've watched too
many movies probably case if anybody has seen Percy Jackson.
(31:04):
You'll know what I'm talking about, because they had hades
manning a boat and that kind of like, you know,
do me gloomy looking of what how? Sometimes they like
death right, like that's how they present any sometimes. But
it feels like there's a guard there that I have
to tussle with. First four of them? Fuck all right,
(31:27):
I saw one, Okay, I got four? Got it all right? Well,
everybody to be continued, stay tuned. Hopefully I'll be back.
I'm betting on you. Yeah. Yeah, they don't stand it. Well,
it's it's not their place, no, but they've stayed there
(31:50):
a long time and they were strong. Yeah. Um, And
I also know I had to go alone. I can't
take anybody in with me because it's uh like Julie
can't do it. She can see stuff that she can't
go in. She said, side. You know this is something
I remember the man who cleared my hunted airbnb m
(32:13):
this would be his work too. Just we should call
him to Yeah, I could be in person. I could
be on the phone with him. He would be he
can come too. Oh here we go. Yeah, alright, okay,
we're gonna take there of this. I'm hoping I'd like
to take care of it. The next thirty days is
my goal. We'll see um how life and schedules look,
but this is a priority. Um so yeah, to be continued,
(32:38):
all right, people, thanks for listening and thanks for being
around so that I can hear these stories too, and
remember her school is hard. Oh, definitely without the other side,
Ain't no doubt about that. Absolutely, Thanks everybody. Thanks y'all, bye,
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