February 14, 2024 • 35 mins
You asked for more, so today we dive deeper into how you can leverage the energy of 2024's Numerological 8-year...The 8-year in Numerology vibrates with the energy of success, balance, goals, power, and prosperity, much of which is connected to your professional world and public reputation. Staying dedicated to your goals is key, but finding that balance between bringing your full self to a situation while navigating the realities of business can get tricky. Julie shares how shifting her morning routine and attitude changed how she showed up in the world, illustrating how intentions and preparations impact the way you ride this 8 energy and harness its full potential. We'll discuss how to get unstuck, feel more centered and purposeful, and avoid victimhood when assessing and expressing your needs during this decisive year of change.Yes, Earth School is hard, but the 8-year program is all about harmony. Here's thanks to the infinite support and guidance of Numerology and the Other Side. ♾️
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to Insider's Guide to the Other Side, a production
of iHeartRadio. Hi, y'all, I'm Julie.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Hi there, I'm Brenda. Welcome to Insider's Guide to the
Other Side.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Now, y'all need to know that we are obsessed with
everything on the other side.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Yes we are, because once you learn to navigate the energetic,
or to some the invisible world, life is going to
be more fun and much more serene.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Uh heck, yes it can. Because let's be honest, br in,
earth school is hard.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
In fact, you taught me that, let's crush Earth school together.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Well, hello, my witchy, who oh my god, she's already laughing, y'all.
And here's the thing. If you guys remember last week
when she did her like waving wand in her hand
bullshit to like do the countdown to come back in.
I actually did that, and so she was. She had
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the memory again of that moment and she started laughing
on us. So hello, I WITCHI pooh, hello, my hell.
How is the number eight working for you?
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Well more, finally we get some very interesting feedback. People
are really engaged on the eight and thinking about how
they can leverage that number right and love that right,
and how to like engage other people in the eighteness
to get things done right, which I loved, right, and
especially thinking about how to manage the reputation, like how
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they're going to feel that more consciously. And I love
this so much, right, and it's really inspired, you know,
this kind of follow up segment about you know, how
to work your work in the in the year of.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
The eight, right, Yeah, and I love that, Okay, And
I just have to say, we called this work your
work number eight just collect Chanel number five, So kind
of think of this episode as a really great fragrance
to how to work your work. On who you are
when you go right, no matter what your work is, yeah,
(02:08):
like who are you? Who's showing up? And how do
you get to that place?
Speaker 2 (02:13):
And like some people will even put eight as a
screen saver on their phone to remember, like just to
keep it top of mind. Like as there's an eight,
there's a frequency here of eight or four. It's like
some one person said to force my number, so you
know I'm double four, you know, yeah, so make it
work for you.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Obviously it takes I just don't want to take Suki's
picture off my phone.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Well why why wouldn't you right, It just makes me happy.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
I'm right now at it or baby Yeah, no, I'm
not betting on there, but I love that people do. Yeah,
I just don't have suki.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Yeah, just to keep top of mind, right, just to
keep that that eight frequency you knows as you're moving
through the year, make it available to you, know that
it's working for you and can really support you as
you leverage it. So we're going to unpack that a
little bit more today.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Yeah, I love that. I it's you know, how you
show up. So that's number eight. That would you know
chanel number eight or school number eight? You know. I
let's just go back a little bit. So let's do
a little history here and talk about a lot of
the advice that people have been given for the workplace
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and also what some workplaces have done to support their employees.
And you know, I have been a very vocal hater
of the book Lean In by Cheryl Sandberg. And it's
not that I dislike Cheryl. It's just that when you
because like we've had so much noise, right and change
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through through the generations that it's kind of hard to
keep up with all the wants and needs and desires
and who who do you need to show up to
be Like if you're you know, a generation exert like myself,
do you show up trying to be cool like the
millennials and disease? No, you don't. That's your answer if
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that's what you worry about. My problem with the lean
in was if you lean in all the time, you're
a dick. That's my answer to her book, Like I
should write, you lean in all the time, you're a dick.
That's a telephony book, because you shouldn't always your voice
doesn't always have to be heard, you know, it just
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it doesn't.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
It's correct, that's correct, And it's not that she needs
me to defend her in any way. But but I think, yes,
lean in was a moment in time, and after that moment.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
I agree, and I also think, I mean, that's some
of the work advice. But I also think when we
start seeing patterns of what's happening in the country and
in the world, is that everybody thinks that all thoughts
that they have in their head must come out of
their mouth, and whether it comes out of their mouth
or they tie but on a keyboard. And that's also
(05:03):
not the workplace y'all. The workplace does not ask your
opinion about world events. Your workplace does not care. That's
not why you are there. And I think it's putting
into perspective about the balancing. You know, Listen, you have
the choice, right you can go to work and be
who you are and maybe you're an asshole. Well you're
(05:24):
not going to have that job for long. But there's
this whole movement of you know, be who you are
authenticity and it's like, yeah, of course, but you always
have to remember though somebody's paying you to do this,
to go to work, you know, like there is a separation,
and I just want to temper this for everybody, you.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Know, hopefully. Yeah, I think it's important that, yes, we
want you to bring your full self to work, because
there are also people like, well, you're not talking about
my area of work, so I'm not going to weigh in.
I'm like, wait a minute, Yeah, you know, you're part
of this team. As team produces affects your area, you
wouldn't be on the team, right, There's got to be
some interdependence somewhere, and so like, even though this may
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not be happening in your backyard, on the team it's
still part of the team. What do you think about this? Like,
I mean, I want you to share who professionally, you know,
like your thoughts. That's important. I may not need to no.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Idea well, but see that's what I'm talking about now.
So then so what you're talking about is one aspect
of it, yeah, which is bringing a whole self and
giving a shit about what you're doing. But what I'm
talking about is, you know, my job did not require
me to be upset. The day that No One ate
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was Yes on eight and it was against gay marriage
in California. I was angry that day. And there are
days I wish I could redo of when I brought
my whole self in and when I should have checked
part of myself at the door. You know, we had
a really bad habit at different workplaces of talking about politics. No,
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that is dangerous now, y'all.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
You know, it's like you said, everything changes, The world.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Keeps changing, and you know, the last thing anybody needs
to do is to bring up or participate in a
conversation about the Israeli and Hamas war. Don't do it.
Don't do it because that's not your best self. And
by the way, your job doesn't ask you to do
that unless you're a journalist. See, this is the thing
that I think is a really great filter would we
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talk about. I mean, we need to probably roll back
a little bit here, but I think that that when
you're preparing for who you are at work, remember what
your work is asking of you. Right Like, your job
isn't asking for you to sit there and spend half
an hour talking about the dinner you had last night.
(07:52):
It's not. Your job isn't asking you what your opinion
is on the world stage. Your work isn't asking what
you think about a certain legislation being passed in the
state of California. And even if you're gay, you know
your work's not asking you these things. And I say
these because you know I've done them all wrong. I've
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done all the things I just listened, I've done And
so I can sit here in full and utter honesty
about this, with zero judgment, but with history and wisdom
to know that that's not a good thing. So preparing
for work is I think what we need to talk
about when we get.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Back and welcome back. How are you doing my health? Well?
Speaker 1 (08:43):
I'm trying to step off my soapbox right, But I'm
afraid I'm going to step on another one.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Now. Well, we're going to talk about because we talk about,
you know, the eight year, how are you prepare to
do your work? Whatever? Whatever you know you put into
that quotation of work could be home, could be work,
could be community, whatever it is. But how you to
prepare to do your work? And I think there are
two parts. One is how you individually design your life
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to do your work, and then how you the organization
the systems that organization has to support you doing your work.
So let's talk about those.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
I think that is fantastic. So there's the personal responsibility
and then the corporate training for you. Right, So from
a personal responsibility, you know, I can say that again
through experience of doing things wrong and right that in
my version of the wrong bucket. Susanne used to joke
with me that every morning I would go through the
(09:42):
fire drill to get ready to go to work, which
is I would stay in bed until the last possible second,
jump in the shower, and then make my drive to work.
And that and that's really how I was leading my life.
And when I started to balance myself better balance my day,
balance my night, when I would get it and from
(10:03):
This is what worked for me. And again, it doesn't matter.
I mean I was a desk jockey, so it doesn't
matter if you work for UPS or you on a
flower shop. It's the start of your day. Everybody has
a has a start, right, So mine was was actually
I would work out and then I would do We
(10:24):
had a Plotti's reformer at home and I would intentionally
get on the reformer, so I not only was my
body more flexible, but my mind was more flexible.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
So because I'm curious what changed from your your fire
droll mornings versus your intentional mornings? What changed for you?
Speaker 1 (10:46):
What changed when I showed up?
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Or what? Well? No, what changed? How did you get from? Oh?
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Why did I get there?
Speaker 2 (10:53):
You know?
Speaker 1 (10:53):
I wow? I wasn't expecting that question, but thank you.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
You know.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
I saw myself fairly stagnant in the fire drill. Not
that I was doing my work was bad. I wasn't
really living up to what I wanted to be, what
I thought I could offer. I also saw where I
wasn't utilizing my full day. I was kind of spending
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the first part of it kind of getting adjusted to
the world a little bit yep, because.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
It's like you got shot out of a cannon every day.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
I got shot out of a kit. Yes, I shot
myself out of a cannon every day. It's true though. Yeah,
And so I made changes, and everything changed when I
started making those changes, and then I started making changes
to where the night before I would look at my schedule,
I would see what I had ahead of me. I
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would think about that in advance, and also knowing that
stuff changes when you get there, but the expectations, you know,
it's like if I have a lot of friends at
their sons. Interestingly are ups drivers and the most successful
ones who actually look at their route. No, for real,
they look at their right And it's a really great
job for a lot of these young men. They love it.
(12:11):
They treat their employees really well, and therefore they want
to give back, right, they want to give them their best, yeah,
and keep the drop their route. Yeah, they'll they'll look
at their routes to look at the weather, you know,
like they'll just get prepared.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Well.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
I was looking at my routes and looking at my
weather the night before, just so I could, you know,
see if I was going to have a stormy day,
you know, it was going to be bright and sunny
because I have them all right, So that was the prep,
right like, and it was intentional and it wasn't. I
wasn't dismissive. I wasn't I don't want to go to work?
(12:45):
Can I tell you that there was not a single
day in my life that I actually did want to
get up and go to work. I love that, no
matter what the job was, whether I worked at the
sub shop that my mom's friend owned in Miamma or
quick Stop Too or whatever it was as a convenience
store in Myma, Oklahoma, still there, I think. But it's
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but that is also part of knowing getting prepared again,
no matter what you fucking do, is that you're contributing
to society, and which I think leads us a little
bit into the second one. And by the way, do
you anybody do do you on how you get ready?
Because I also started meditating in the morning for like
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five minutes as part of my prep. Like I was
up at five, five, five thirty in the morning to
get ready for what I was doing.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
I was.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
I was in bed hopefully a sleep by ten, and
I had that rhythm. Also, you know, I don't drink anymore,
like at all. But I would drink back in the day,
but I not during the week because that would hurt
what I was doing, and ultimately any day was not
good for me with it. But that's points another episode.
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I know, what the hell, but I'm an eight right now,
I'm eighteen. I'm eighteen and fiving right now. But I
think that it was also really interesting. And what I
like to do and when I have some time is
I read about different companies. And I was so enamored
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and impressed with this company called Dutch Brothers. It's a
coffee place, and I think we've already established I've never
had a cup of coffee in my life, so it's
not like I read only the things I like, Otherwise
I want to be reading about dunkin Donuts. But I
was reading about Dutch Brother's coffee, and it's this up
and coming their business is going. It's their business is soaring.
(14:50):
And when I read about why their business was soaring,
even though people love their product, like they like the
kind of interesting flavors and combinations that they offer, but
they loved how friendly and kind the employees of Dutch
Brothers are well, And when's the last time you've heard that.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
It's been a minute. Right. That's impressive, right, that cultural
personal engagement. People are not raving about that sort of
thing these days.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
No, which is why I wanted to bring it up,
because that is a current day corporate situation where it's
so important to them that that you, their customer, is
so important that they make that part of who they are,
part of the culture, part of the training, you know,
and you just don't you don't see that like back
(15:40):
and they when you and I were talking at the
break about it, or before we started about this, was Disney.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
Disney set the standard back in the day how they
trained their their cast members, right. I mean it's just
even you know, because words matter, right, so they would
they weren't employees, they were cast members. Right. We're putting
on an entertainment experience, so yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
Right, And people have saved for a big chunk of
their life to take their family to this experience.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
And they took it seriously, and they.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Took it it is serious. Yeah, yeah, you know, entertainment
that is serious. It's like people who's been a fortune
to go on a cruise and then they end up
it's stinky and the food sucks and like why did
I work and save and scrape to come do this?
Speaker 2 (16:30):
You know?
Speaker 1 (16:32):
So you know when I was when I was first
working at ad agencies back in the early nineties, they
had training, oh yeah, and serious raining, like you stayed
in the evening to go through the training courses and
to do your work. But it set an expectation of
a professionalism. They taught us how to write PowerPoint decks,
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which they weren't I think they weren't PowerPoint back then.
Of course I broke all those rules because that's what
I do. But they gave like a basis and a
consistency of service.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Well, and it was part of the culture. They're actually
teaching you about the corporate culture. This is what's expected
to you. This is how we work. This is the
standard that you will be judged by and how you'll
be accepted. How you will get work done is by
working in this way. And today, I mean they literally
put employees in front of a video and like this
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is your training. Good duck.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
I don't even know what to say about that, but see,
but I think what's happened and why would really another
reason we wanted to talk about this, not that you guys.
I mean, yes, you all got excited about eight. But
the other thing is is that things with exception of
Dutch brothers, and we don't know everything of every corporate
company or small company. But the reality is is that
you have to kind of train yourself these days. You
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have to take some initiative in the morning, afternoon, whenever
it is that you start your work day and to
get prepared, because that's how that eight is going to shine.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
Right, That's how you leverage that energy that's very strong
and supportive. Right, It's how you literally garner resources to
you and including supporting you the resource of your reputation
in your professional and social communities. So it's really yeah,
it's really important because how you do what you do matter,
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So how you approach your every day right is super important.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
So what we'll come back and talk about some other
interesting trends that we've been seeing and hearing about when
we get back for this next break and we're okay,
or maybe we won't stop doing this, but we keep
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doing the whole like magic wandy witchy hand ester and
we come back and now that one of us, don't
one really coming back now? And that happened so, and
it was actually my job to bring us back. So Brenda,
I'm going to just hand it over to you.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
So one of the things right in the last thing
we talked about how my elf gave great examples of
how she prepared for work when she went through the
shift that said, I'm feeling a little stuck. I feel
like I'm not doing everything I could do, and perhaps
I'm not going to get to the level that I
actually want if I'm not bringing everything I can. I
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imagine there was something like that connected there. I don't know,
you didn't say that, but I'm thinking, maybe does that
makes sense?
Speaker 1 (19:35):
So you and that's actually when I became a president
of the company.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
This is exactly like I was working. And I began, yeah,
because you were bringing it, and I'm connecting the doubts too,
because that is the energy of the eight. If you
want to excel, this is your year, right, double down
on it.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
And I wanted to.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
Yeah, of course you did, because you're totally capable, right,
And I think this is a little bit of the
generation we were brought up in, which is you own it,
bring it right, if if if you got it, bring.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
It work, which is workers right. I mean the generation
we were workers, Yeah, and that's we were kind of
raised that way and that's how it was, and good
or bad, it's just it's just a generational thing and
it just is.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
And I think so you know, we talked about how
to prepare and you know, leverage that energy so you
have what you need to be the best you can
and checking in the day before. For me, I like
to set things up energetically a week before. That's how
I like to cook energy. That's just me, not required,
not better or worse. It's just as long as you're
getting what you want. It's important. Now. The second part
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of this is when you are clear about what you
need and you're not taking full responsibility for it, or
sometimes in an effort to try and get that need met,
if you're not well rehearsed or you're not well practiced
asking for it, it can come out a little sideways
and it can come out a little victimy, and that
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doesn't do you, just as it's not taking care of
that reputational eight energy by frequency that's surrounding us this year.
So you know, this is an opportunity to hone that
skill to really support your needs, but to really think
about hey, when I get challenged. You know part of
in astrology when people will talk about, oh, I have
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this grind trine and water, which means it is all
harmonious and trains are really soft energy and gifts blessings,
and nobody can really feel them in their chart. So
they're like, okay, whatever, nothing. It doesn't really get it expressed.
If you have a square or an opposition, it's harder.
But it's where you get invited to grow. It's where
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you get invited to expand. And we know that our
school is hard, so let it be hard with a
specific reason for your soul expansion. That's the whole invitation here.
So when you have something at work that's not working
for you, yay, celebrated and not in a way that's
like they don't respect me. That's what I hear a
lot about it. They don't respect me, right, they're not
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taking care of.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
That makes me insane. Well, I mean like I want
to lose my mind because I've heard people say that. Look,
that also just doesn't respect me.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
There's so many times that's actually true. I literally had
an executive tell me that she came in and she's like,
I was literally on a video, you know, teams or
something with my boss and one of his peers. And
his peer literally said, we are very serious people here,
little lady, little lady, Oh my god. But the thing
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is she did not melt down. She did not. She's like,
she goes, I'm not gonna lie. I thought for a minute,
should I turn off my video while I've composed myself,
And she's like, no, I'm just going to roll with
this and I will laugh about it later. But right
just want to die, you know.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
But that's really funny.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
But she did not, you know, say to her boss,
you didn't save me. You didn't address that. She did
talk to her boss and say, hey, I don't think
i'm the best person to go into this meeting because
he just told me he doesn't see me as a
serious person. She's a VP in this in this company
like that. She's like, whatever, I'm just clearly not the person.
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So this is yours. It's all yours, you know. And
they had a good laugh about it. But the point
is she didn't go in as a victim because of it.
She knew this is not, you know, an engagement I
aspired to repeat and I'm not going to melt in
the face of it, right, I can am not going
to be like I can't work under these conditions. I'm
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going to talk to my boss. We're going to come
up with a plan to make it functional, to make
it better. And I imagine this man is probably not
going to say little later to me again, you know,
like this is because they're going to have a conversation,
because that's the plan where everyone saves faith, not in
a dysfunctional way, but in a productive way to keep
getting work done. And that's what's really important, is so
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that you go in as this is a problem, and
I'm going to be part of the solution. I this.
It might just be a problem for me, it might
be a problem for the organization. It doesn't matter. We're
going to We're in it together to fix it. We
can only fix it together. We can't win overall if
one of us is losing. So let's let's bring it in,
(24:27):
let's figure it out, right, let's all be adults in
this way.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
Aren't we seeing a trend as well with people using
their mental health as reasons to not I don't know,
get their work done. I I it's it is.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
It has kind of become a just a tagline blanket
that says. I think of it like it as an
invisibility cloak, like no one can touch me if I
say if I say mental health, Yeah, if I play
the mental health card, and this is so dangerous in
my mind, because mental health is really serious. It is
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really serious, and that is different than this project is
a cluster we are behind and it's not working well.
That cause you stress, yes, but that does not give
you a hall pass to play the mental health card
and walk away and someone else has to clean up
your mass. That is not how it goes, right, It's
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not how it goes Now. If there are things in
the organization that continue to personally challenge you that's creating stress,
then that's a mental health issue. But if the work
is just too hard, that's a whole different thing. Right,
Those are two different categories. Right.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
See, I thought the weekends were our time for mental
health breaks. I didn't realize that it was the middle
of the day.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
Yeah, I can't come until ten today. Actually, did you
see the article Jody Foster had this? She had some articles.
She's like, I don't understand these people are like, no,
I can't come until ten thirty. She's like, I don't understand, right, Like,
how's that helpful? Right? We have call it six? Like
we six? I am, we are on site? Why ten thirty?
That's gonna work?
Speaker 1 (26:20):
Like you imagine how often I've been to work on
that movie Niad with she I mean, come on, come on,
y'all watch that. Watch that movie Niad. I think it's
on Netflix now. I don't know, n y Ad. It's
about the woman who swam from to Florida and she
was amazing. You know, Sorry, I have feelings, but it
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was about the article because I think I read something
similar to that as well, So there you know again.
I think it gets back to you know, when you
work for a company, there's there's an agreement, like just
to start fundamental, there's an agreement you do certain work
ideally well for money. That's the agreement.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
That's the contract, that is literally an employment contract, payment.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
And exactly right. And I think and where the world is.
I think that's been kind of lost in certain aspects.
Not everybody, not everything, but it seems like it's more
of a pattern than like.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
People have made corporations they're parent right, Yes, you need
to take care of me you're not meeting my right.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
Right and now there's just certain needs that corporations need
to be responsible for. But on an individual basis, to use,
you know, an out like that, I think is just
it's appalling to me personally. But I'm a I have
verged on workaholic in my life, so I'm probably not
the best person to actually comment, even though I just did.
But I think I love to work, so that's also
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part of my problem.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
I love, I completely understand, and I think it's really
important for people to be able to celebrate, right, I
mean literally, our takeline is our school is hard. It
is hard, and it's that's how we grow. So to
understand it's part of the privilege of being here with
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a body and running into these things that are challenging
and celebrating the person on the other end of that challenge.
Who's allowing you to grow? How allowing you to feel
that tension and find your strength and resilience and grow,
you know, like the Grinch, grow your heart like ten
times bigger, and do it with love. That is ultimately
all my challenge. How can I do this with love? Yes?
(28:38):
Could I crush them, absolutely? But how can I do it?
Speaker 1 (28:40):
With love, right, or people can crush you, which I
have to tell you. When I had my first job
in advertising was actually kind of a nightmare. And they
were very strong, actually women, and they were tough, and
I had no idea what to expect. I'm like, twenty
whatever the hell do I know?
Speaker 2 (28:59):
You know?
Speaker 1 (29:00):
And I mean, I was too concerned of building my
schedule in college around reruns of Livert and Shirley, and
then I go into this very corporate kind of life
and and that's all true. But I'm telling you the
things they pointed out and how hard they were on me,
I was so grateful because, you know what, those mistakes
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that I made at that time, and this is thirty
plus years ago, I have not made them since.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
That's exactly right, right, And that's.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
I have not made them since I took it as
a challenge.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
That's the growth that comes out of the tension. You're like,
I got this, I got this. I will never make
that many.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
If they would have babed me, or if I would
have said I have mental health and mental health break
for one as they would have laughed me out of
the building. But for real, they would have.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
Would have it. If you did it twice, they'd replace
you right.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
In a skinny minute, but it was the And again,
mental health is real, and I understand it is so
incredibly real. It is so real, like it's more real
than it's ever been real, you know. And whether it's
it is a permanent situation for someone or if it
is a temporary situation that they're trying to work through,
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it is a very real thing. So neither one of
us are are dissing on it. It's just that it's
being used as an excuse for people that aren't suffering
from a real mental health issue.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
And that's why I think it's dangerous right when when
when it gets used.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
But even if you feel in the course of your
work that you are like like you're on yeah, if
you're even if you're not even keel or you're a
little teetery, preparing for that day helps so you're not
like that much, right, It's like you know, breathing at work,
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taking you can listen, do you know many times I
took bathroom breaks. I didn't have to go to the bathroom,
and I'm not I'm this is honest. It got true.
I I became very familiar with the last stall on
the third floor and Building eighty eight on the Fox lot,
because sometimes I had a window. Sometimes I just needed
I needed a time out, right like at school, I
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didn't leave school. I just took a time out and
I needed to time out to breathe, to ground, to whatever.
It's so fun. I can see myself doing this now.
Is that because I was so vivid? I did it
so much because I felt I was at times I
was coming on glue, high pressure environment sometimes dealing with
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corporate terrorists, and it's like you just need a minute.
So that's okay. But blanking out, skipping, grabbing my keys
and hauling ass out of there is not the answer.
That's I think what your point is right, Just I
gave it a lot of color. That's a good job.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
That is my storytelling out. It's so good. It's so good. Yes,
thank you for routing that up hopefully.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
Thank you for telling us about the last doll and
the third four, Building eighty eight. There were used to
take a break my health.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
We need to know that everybody did. But again, I
think what's important is remembering we've got this eight year
that's going to support your work and reputation. If you
invest in it if you use it and leverage it,
and how to do that personally, and how to work
within the system you have at work. And you can
also begin to find mentors or leaders who can work
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on the system if something's not working about the system, right,
So you can work in the system and on the system.
So those those are two different things.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
Prep prep prep prep, prep prep prep. I will tell
y'all and those who read my book know the story
of Jacob take the wheel. When I knew that something
was coming and I was prepared, That's the reason I'm
not dead. Yeah, be prepared, like preparing yourself every day.
It is worth it. You will be calmer as a result.
You'll be able to handle whatever comes at you. For real,
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Like I think that is that's the number eight, right,
Like that's being and you and you'll soar s O
A R not s O R E because sometimes I
was there. You're sore, You're just sore. So why not?
Why why why stumble when you can soar.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
Prepared to soar? People? Remember our school.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
Is hard without the number eight and the other side.
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Welcome to Insider's Guide to the Other Side, a production
of iHeartRadio. Hi, y'all, I'm Julie.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Hi there, I'm Brenda. Welcome to Insider's Guide to the
Other Side.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Now, y'all need to know that we are obsessed with
everything on the other side.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Yes we are, because once you learn to navigate the energetic,
or to some the invisible world, life is going to
be more fun and much more serene.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Uh heck, yes it can. Because let's be honest, br in,
earth school is hard.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
In fact, you taught me that, let's crush Earth school together.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Well, hello, my witchy, who oh my god, she's already laughing, y'all.
And here's the thing. If you guys remember last week
when she did her like waving wand in her hand
bullshit to like do the countdown to come back in.
I actually did that, and so she was. She had
(01:03):
the memory again of that moment and she started laughing
on us. So hello, I WITCHI pooh, hello, my hell.
How is the number eight working for you?
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Well more, finally we get some very interesting feedback. People
are really engaged on the eight and thinking about how
they can leverage that number right and love that right,
and how to like engage other people in the eighteness
to get things done right, which I loved, right, and
especially thinking about how to manage the reputation, like how
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they're going to feel that more consciously. And I love
this so much, right, and it's really inspired, you know,
this kind of follow up segment about you know, how
to work your work in the in the year of.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
The eight, right, Yeah, and I love that, Okay, And
I just have to say, we called this work your
work number eight just collect Chanel number five, So kind
of think of this episode as a really great fragrance
to how to work your work. On who you are
when you go right, no matter what your work is, yeah,
(02:08):
like who are you? Who's showing up? And how do
you get to that place?
Speaker 2 (02:13):
And like some people will even put eight as a
screen saver on their phone to remember, like just to
keep it top of mind. Like as there's an eight,
there's a frequency here of eight or four. It's like
some one person said to force my number, so you
know I'm double four, you know, yeah, so make it
work for you.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Obviously it takes I just don't want to take Suki's
picture off my phone.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Well why why wouldn't you right, It just makes me happy.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
I'm right now at it or baby Yeah, no, I'm
not betting on there, but I love that people do. Yeah,
I just don't have suki.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Yeah, just to keep top of mind, right, just to
keep that that eight frequency you knows as you're moving
through the year, make it available to you, know that
it's working for you and can really support you as
you leverage it. So we're going to unpack that a
little bit more today.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Yeah, I love that. I it's you know, how you
show up. So that's number eight. That would you know
chanel number eight or school number eight? You know. I
let's just go back a little bit. So let's do
a little history here and talk about a lot of
the advice that people have been given for the workplace
(03:22):
and also what some workplaces have done to support their employees.
And you know, I have been a very vocal hater
of the book Lean In by Cheryl Sandberg. And it's
not that I dislike Cheryl. It's just that when you
because like we've had so much noise, right and change
(03:45):
through through the generations that it's kind of hard to
keep up with all the wants and needs and desires
and who who do you need to show up to
be Like if you're you know, a generation exert like myself,
do you show up trying to be cool like the
millennials and disease? No, you don't. That's your answer if
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that's what you worry about. My problem with the lean
in was if you lean in all the time, you're
a dick. That's my answer to her book, Like I
should write, you lean in all the time, you're a dick.
That's a telephony book, because you shouldn't always your voice
doesn't always have to be heard, you know, it just
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it doesn't.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
It's correct, that's correct, And it's not that she needs
me to defend her in any way. But but I think, yes,
lean in was a moment in time, and after that moment.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
I agree, and I also think, I mean, that's some
of the work advice. But I also think when we
start seeing patterns of what's happening in the country and
in the world, is that everybody thinks that all thoughts
that they have in their head must come out of
their mouth, and whether it comes out of their mouth
or they tie but on a keyboard. And that's also
(05:03):
not the workplace y'all. The workplace does not ask your
opinion about world events. Your workplace does not care. That's
not why you are there. And I think it's putting
into perspective about the balancing. You know, Listen, you have
the choice, right you can go to work and be
who you are and maybe you're an asshole. Well you're
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not going to have that job for long. But there's
this whole movement of you know, be who you are
authenticity and it's like, yeah, of course, but you always
have to remember though somebody's paying you to do this,
to go to work, you know, like there is a separation,
and I just want to temper this for everybody, you.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Know, hopefully. Yeah, I think it's important that, yes, we
want you to bring your full self to work, because
there are also people like, well, you're not talking about
my area of work, so I'm not going to weigh in.
I'm like, wait a minute, Yeah, you know, you're part
of this team. As team produces affects your area, you
wouldn't be on the team, right, There's got to be
some interdependence somewhere, and so like, even though this may
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not be happening in your backyard, on the team it's
still part of the team. What do you think about this? Like,
I mean, I want you to share who professionally, you know,
like your thoughts. That's important. I may not need to no.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Idea well, but see that's what I'm talking about now.
So then so what you're talking about is one aspect
of it, yeah, which is bringing a whole self and
giving a shit about what you're doing. But what I'm
talking about is, you know, my job did not require
me to be upset. The day that No One ate
(06:40):
was Yes on eight and it was against gay marriage
in California. I was angry that day. And there are
days I wish I could redo of when I brought
my whole self in and when I should have checked
part of myself at the door. You know, we had
a really bad habit at different workplaces of talking about politics. No,
(07:04):
that is dangerous now, y'all.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
You know, it's like you said, everything changes, The world.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Keeps changing, and you know, the last thing anybody needs
to do is to bring up or participate in a
conversation about the Israeli and Hamas war. Don't do it.
Don't do it because that's not your best self. And
by the way, your job doesn't ask you to do
that unless you're a journalist. See, this is the thing
that I think is a really great filter would we
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talk about. I mean, we need to probably roll back
a little bit here, but I think that that when
you're preparing for who you are at work, remember what
your work is asking of you. Right Like, your job
isn't asking for you to sit there and spend half
an hour talking about the dinner you had last night.
(07:52):
It's not. Your job isn't asking you what your opinion
is on the world stage. Your work isn't asking what
you think about a certain legislation being passed in the
state of California. And even if you're gay, you know
your work's not asking you these things. And I say
these because you know I've done them all wrong. I've
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done all the things I just listened, I've done And
so I can sit here in full and utter honesty
about this, with zero judgment, but with history and wisdom
to know that that's not a good thing. So preparing
for work is I think what we need to talk
about when we get.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Back and welcome back. How are you doing my health? Well?
Speaker 1 (08:43):
I'm trying to step off my soapbox right, But I'm
afraid I'm going to step on another one.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Now. Well, we're going to talk about because we talk about,
you know, the eight year, how are you prepare to
do your work? Whatever? Whatever you know you put into
that quotation of work could be home, could be work,
could be community, whatever it is. But how you to
prepare to do your work? And I think there are
two parts. One is how you individually design your life
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to do your work, and then how you the organization
the systems that organization has to support you doing your work.
So let's talk about those.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
I think that is fantastic. So there's the personal responsibility
and then the corporate training for you. Right, So from
a personal responsibility, you know, I can say that again
through experience of doing things wrong and right that in
my version of the wrong bucket. Susanne used to joke
with me that every morning I would go through the
(09:42):
fire drill to get ready to go to work, which
is I would stay in bed until the last possible second,
jump in the shower, and then make my drive to work.
And that and that's really how I was leading my life.
And when I started to balance myself better balance my day,
balance my night, when I would get it and from
(10:03):
This is what worked for me. And again, it doesn't matter.
I mean I was a desk jockey, so it doesn't
matter if you work for UPS or you on a
flower shop. It's the start of your day. Everybody has
a has a start, right, So mine was was actually
I would work out and then I would do We
(10:24):
had a Plotti's reformer at home and I would intentionally
get on the reformer, so I not only was my
body more flexible, but my mind was more flexible.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
So because I'm curious what changed from your your fire
droll mornings versus your intentional mornings? What changed for you?
Speaker 1 (10:46):
What changed when I showed up?
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Or what? Well? No, what changed? How did you get from? Oh?
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Why did I get there?
Speaker 2 (10:53):
You know?
Speaker 1 (10:53):
I wow? I wasn't expecting that question, but thank you.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
You know.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
I saw myself fairly stagnant in the fire drill. Not
that I was doing my work was bad. I wasn't
really living up to what I wanted to be, what
I thought I could offer. I also saw where I
wasn't utilizing my full day. I was kind of spending
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the first part of it kind of getting adjusted to
the world a little bit yep, because.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
It's like you got shot out of a cannon every day.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
I got shot out of a kit. Yes, I shot
myself out of a cannon every day. It's true though. Yeah,
And so I made changes, and everything changed when I
started making those changes, and then I started making changes
to where the night before I would look at my schedule,
I would see what I had ahead of me. I
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would think about that in advance, and also knowing that
stuff changes when you get there, but the expectations, you know,
it's like if I have a lot of friends at
their sons. Interestingly are ups drivers and the most successful
ones who actually look at their route. No, for real,
they look at their right And it's a really great
job for a lot of these young men. They love it.
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They treat their employees really well, and therefore they want
to give back, right, they want to give them their best, yeah,
and keep the drop their route. Yeah, they'll they'll look
at their routes to look at the weather, you know,
like they'll just get prepared.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Well.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
I was looking at my routes and looking at my
weather the night before, just so I could, you know,
see if I was going to have a stormy day,
you know, it was going to be bright and sunny
because I have them all right, So that was the prep,
right like, and it was intentional and it wasn't. I
wasn't dismissive. I wasn't I don't want to go to work?
(12:45):
Can I tell you that there was not a single
day in my life that I actually did want to
get up and go to work. I love that, no
matter what the job was, whether I worked at the
sub shop that my mom's friend owned in Miamma or
quick Stop Too or whatever it was as a convenience
store in Myma, Oklahoma, still there, I think. But it's
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but that is also part of knowing getting prepared again,
no matter what you fucking do, is that you're contributing
to society, and which I think leads us a little
bit into the second one. And by the way, do
you anybody do do you on how you get ready?
Because I also started meditating in the morning for like
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five minutes as part of my prep. Like I was
up at five, five, five thirty in the morning to
get ready for what I was doing.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
I was.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
I was in bed hopefully a sleep by ten, and
I had that rhythm. Also, you know, I don't drink anymore,
like at all. But I would drink back in the day,
but I not during the week because that would hurt
what I was doing, and ultimately any day was not
good for me with it. But that's points another episode.
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I know, what the hell, but I'm an eight right now,
I'm eighteen. I'm eighteen and fiving right now. But I
think that it was also really interesting. And what I
like to do and when I have some time is
I read about different companies. And I was so enamored
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and impressed with this company called Dutch Brothers. It's a
coffee place, and I think we've already established I've never
had a cup of coffee in my life, so it's
not like I read only the things I like, Otherwise
I want to be reading about dunkin Donuts. But I
was reading about Dutch Brother's coffee, and it's this up
and coming their business is going. It's their business is soaring.
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And when I read about why their business was soaring,
even though people love their product, like they like the
kind of interesting flavors and combinations that they offer, but
they loved how friendly and kind the employees of Dutch
Brothers are well, And when's the last time you've heard that.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
It's been a minute. Right. That's impressive, right, that cultural
personal engagement. People are not raving about that sort of
thing these days.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
No, which is why I wanted to bring it up,
because that is a current day corporate situation where it's
so important to them that that you, their customer, is
so important that they make that part of who they are,
part of the culture, part of the training, you know,
and you just don't you don't see that like back
(15:40):
and they when you and I were talking at the
break about it, or before we started about this, was Disney.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
Disney set the standard back in the day how they
trained their their cast members, right. I mean it's just
even you know, because words matter, right, so they would
they weren't employees, they were cast members. Right. We're putting
on an entertainment experience, so yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
Right, And people have saved for a big chunk of
their life to take their family to this experience.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
And they took it seriously, and they.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Took it it is serious. Yeah, yeah, you know, entertainment
that is serious. It's like people who's been a fortune
to go on a cruise and then they end up
it's stinky and the food sucks and like why did
I work and save and scrape to come do this?
Speaker 2 (16:30):
You know?
Speaker 1 (16:32):
So you know when I was when I was first
working at ad agencies back in the early nineties, they
had training, oh yeah, and serious raining, like you stayed
in the evening to go through the training courses and
to do your work. But it set an expectation of
a professionalism. They taught us how to write PowerPoint decks,
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which they weren't I think they weren't PowerPoint back then.
Of course I broke all those rules because that's what
I do. But they gave like a basis and a
consistency of service.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Well, and it was part of the culture. They're actually
teaching you about the corporate culture. This is what's expected
to you. This is how we work. This is the
standard that you will be judged by and how you'll
be accepted. How you will get work done is by
working in this way. And today, I mean they literally
put employees in front of a video and like this
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is your training. Good duck.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
I don't even know what to say about that, but see,
but I think what's happened and why would really another
reason we wanted to talk about this, not that you guys.
I mean, yes, you all got excited about eight. But
the other thing is is that things with exception of
Dutch brothers, and we don't know everything of every corporate
company or small company. But the reality is is that
you have to kind of train yourself these days. You
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have to take some initiative in the morning, afternoon, whenever
it is that you start your work day and to
get prepared, because that's how that eight is going to shine.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
Right, That's how you leverage that energy that's very strong
and supportive. Right, It's how you literally garner resources to
you and including supporting you the resource of your reputation
in your professional and social communities. So it's really yeah,
it's really important because how you do what you do matter,
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So how you approach your every day right is super important.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
So what we'll come back and talk about some other
interesting trends that we've been seeing and hearing about when
we get back for this next break and we're okay,
or maybe we won't stop doing this, but we keep
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doing the whole like magic wandy witchy hand ester and
we come back and now that one of us, don't
one really coming back now? And that happened so, and
it was actually my job to bring us back. So Brenda,
I'm going to just hand it over to you.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
So one of the things right in the last thing
we talked about how my elf gave great examples of
how she prepared for work when she went through the
shift that said, I'm feeling a little stuck. I feel
like I'm not doing everything I could do, and perhaps
I'm not going to get to the level that I
actually want if I'm not bringing everything I can. I
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imagine there was something like that connected there. I don't know,
you didn't say that, but I'm thinking, maybe does that
makes sense?
Speaker 1 (19:35):
So you and that's actually when I became a president
of the company.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
This is exactly like I was working. And I began, yeah,
because you were bringing it, and I'm connecting the doubts too,
because that is the energy of the eight. If you
want to excel, this is your year, right, double down
on it.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
And I wanted to.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
Yeah, of course you did, because you're totally capable, right,
And I think this is a little bit of the
generation we were brought up in, which is you own it,
bring it right, if if if you got it, bring.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
It work, which is workers right. I mean the generation
we were workers, Yeah, and that's we were kind of
raised that way and that's how it was, and good
or bad, it's just it's just a generational thing and
it just is.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
And I think so you know, we talked about how
to prepare and you know, leverage that energy so you
have what you need to be the best you can
and checking in the day before. For me, I like
to set things up energetically a week before. That's how
I like to cook energy. That's just me, not required,
not better or worse. It's just as long as you're
getting what you want. It's important. Now. The second part
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of this is when you are clear about what you
need and you're not taking full responsibility for it, or
sometimes in an effort to try and get that need met,
if you're not well rehearsed or you're not well practiced
asking for it, it can come out a little sideways
and it can come out a little victimy, and that
(21:06):
doesn't do you, just as it's not taking care of
that reputational eight energy by frequency that's surrounding us this year.
So you know, this is an opportunity to hone that
skill to really support your needs, but to really think
about hey, when I get challenged. You know part of
in astrology when people will talk about, oh, I have
(21:29):
this grind trine and water, which means it is all
harmonious and trains are really soft energy and gifts blessings,
and nobody can really feel them in their chart. So
they're like, okay, whatever, nothing. It doesn't really get it expressed.
If you have a square or an opposition, it's harder.
But it's where you get invited to grow. It's where
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you get invited to expand. And we know that our
school is hard, so let it be hard with a
specific reason for your soul expansion. That's the whole invitation here.
So when you have something at work that's not working
for you, yay, celebrated and not in a way that's
like they don't respect me. That's what I hear a
lot about it. They don't respect me, right, they're not
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taking care of.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
That makes me insane. Well, I mean like I want
to lose my mind because I've heard people say that. Look,
that also just doesn't respect me.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
There's so many times that's actually true. I literally had
an executive tell me that she came in and she's like,
I was literally on a video, you know, teams or
something with my boss and one of his peers. And
his peer literally said, we are very serious people here,
little lady, little lady, Oh my god. But the thing
(22:47):
is she did not melt down. She did not. She's like,
she goes, I'm not gonna lie. I thought for a minute,
should I turn off my video while I've composed myself,
And she's like, no, I'm just going to roll with
this and I will laugh about it later. But right
just want to die, you know.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
But that's really funny.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
But she did not, you know, say to her boss,
you didn't save me. You didn't address that. She did
talk to her boss and say, hey, I don't think
i'm the best person to go into this meeting because
he just told me he doesn't see me as a
serious person. She's a VP in this in this company
like that. She's like, whatever, I'm just clearly not the person.
(23:24):
So this is yours. It's all yours, you know. And
they had a good laugh about it. But the point
is she didn't go in as a victim because of it.
She knew this is not, you know, an engagement I
aspired to repeat and I'm not going to melt in
the face of it, right, I can am not going
to be like I can't work under these conditions. I'm
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going to talk to my boss. We're going to come
up with a plan to make it functional, to make
it better. And I imagine this man is probably not
going to say little later to me again, you know,
like this is because they're going to have a conversation,
because that's the plan where everyone saves faith, not in
a dysfunctional way, but in a productive way to keep
getting work done. And that's what's really important, is so
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that you go in as this is a problem, and
I'm going to be part of the solution. I this.
It might just be a problem for me, it might
be a problem for the organization. It doesn't matter. We're
going to We're in it together to fix it. We
can only fix it together. We can't win overall if
one of us is losing. So let's let's bring it in,
(24:27):
let's figure it out, right, let's all be adults in
this way.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
Aren't we seeing a trend as well with people using
their mental health as reasons to not I don't know,
get their work done. I I it's it is.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
It has kind of become a just a tagline blanket
that says. I think of it like it as an
invisibility cloak, like no one can touch me if I
say if I say mental health, Yeah, if I play
the mental health card, and this is so dangerous in
my mind, because mental health is really serious. It is
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really serious, and that is different than this project is
a cluster we are behind and it's not working well.
That cause you stress, yes, but that does not give
you a hall pass to play the mental health card
and walk away and someone else has to clean up
your mass. That is not how it goes, right, It's
(25:34):
not how it goes Now. If there are things in
the organization that continue to personally challenge you that's creating stress,
then that's a mental health issue. But if the work
is just too hard, that's a whole different thing. Right,
Those are two different categories. Right.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
See, I thought the weekends were our time for mental
health breaks. I didn't realize that it was the middle
of the day.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
Yeah, I can't come until ten today. Actually, did you
see the article Jody Foster had this? She had some articles.
She's like, I don't understand these people are like, no,
I can't come until ten thirty. She's like, I don't understand, right, Like,
how's that helpful? Right? We have call it six? Like
we six? I am, we are on site? Why ten thirty?
That's gonna work?
Speaker 1 (26:20):
Like you imagine how often I've been to work on
that movie Niad with she I mean, come on, come on,
y'all watch that. Watch that movie Niad. I think it's
on Netflix now. I don't know, n y Ad. It's
about the woman who swam from to Florida and she
was amazing. You know, Sorry, I have feelings, but it
(26:40):
was about the article because I think I read something
similar to that as well, So there you know again.
I think it gets back to you know, when you
work for a company, there's there's an agreement, like just
to start fundamental, there's an agreement you do certain work
ideally well for money. That's the agreement.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
That's the contract, that is literally an employment contract, payment.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
And exactly right. And I think and where the world is.
I think that's been kind of lost in certain aspects.
Not everybody, not everything, but it seems like it's more
of a pattern than like.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
People have made corporations they're parent right, Yes, you need
to take care of me you're not meeting my right.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
Right and now there's just certain needs that corporations need
to be responsible for. But on an individual basis, to use,
you know, an out like that, I think is just
it's appalling to me personally. But I'm a I have
verged on workaholic in my life, so I'm probably not
the best person to actually comment, even though I just did.
But I think I love to work, so that's also
(27:54):
part of my problem.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
I love, I completely understand, and I think it's really
important for people to be able to celebrate, right, I
mean literally, our takeline is our school is hard. It
is hard, and it's that's how we grow. So to
understand it's part of the privilege of being here with
(28:17):
a body and running into these things that are challenging
and celebrating the person on the other end of that challenge.
Who's allowing you to grow? How allowing you to feel
that tension and find your strength and resilience and grow,
you know, like the Grinch, grow your heart like ten
times bigger, and do it with love. That is ultimately
all my challenge. How can I do this with love? Yes?
(28:38):
Could I crush them, absolutely? But how can I do it?
Speaker 1 (28:40):
With love, right, or people can crush you, which I
have to tell you. When I had my first job
in advertising was actually kind of a nightmare. And they
were very strong, actually women, and they were tough, and
I had no idea what to expect. I'm like, twenty
whatever the hell do I know?
Speaker 2 (28:59):
You know?
Speaker 1 (29:00):
And I mean, I was too concerned of building my
schedule in college around reruns of Livert and Shirley, and
then I go into this very corporate kind of life
and and that's all true. But I'm telling you the
things they pointed out and how hard they were on me,
I was so grateful because, you know what, those mistakes
(29:23):
that I made at that time, and this is thirty
plus years ago, I have not made them since.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
That's exactly right, right, And that's.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
I have not made them since I took it as
a challenge.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
That's the growth that comes out of the tension. You're like,
I got this, I got this. I will never make
that many.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
If they would have babed me, or if I would
have said I have mental health and mental health break
for one as they would have laughed me out of
the building. But for real, they would have.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
Would have it. If you did it twice, they'd replace
you right.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
In a skinny minute, but it was the And again,
mental health is real, and I understand it is so
incredibly real. It is so real, like it's more real
than it's ever been real, you know. And whether it's
it is a permanent situation for someone or if it
is a temporary situation that they're trying to work through,
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it is a very real thing. So neither one of
us are are dissing on it. It's just that it's
being used as an excuse for people that aren't suffering
from a real mental health issue.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
And that's why I think it's dangerous right when when
when it gets used.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
But even if you feel in the course of your
work that you are like like you're on yeah, if
you're even if you're not even keel or you're a
little teetery, preparing for that day helps so you're not
like that much, right, It's like you know, breathing at work,
(30:52):
taking you can listen, do you know many times I
took bathroom breaks. I didn't have to go to the bathroom,
and I'm not I'm this is honest. It got true.
I I became very familiar with the last stall on
the third floor and Building eighty eight on the Fox lot,
because sometimes I had a window. Sometimes I just needed
I needed a time out, right like at school, I
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didn't leave school. I just took a time out and
I needed to time out to breathe, to ground, to whatever.
It's so fun. I can see myself doing this now.
Is that because I was so vivid? I did it
so much because I felt I was at times I
was coming on glue, high pressure environment sometimes dealing with
(31:34):
corporate terrorists, and it's like you just need a minute.
So that's okay. But blanking out, skipping, grabbing my keys
and hauling ass out of there is not the answer.
That's I think what your point is right, Just I
gave it a lot of color. That's a good job.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
That is my storytelling out. It's so good. It's so good. Yes,
thank you for routing that up hopefully.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
Thank you for telling us about the last doll and
the third four, Building eighty eight. There were used to
take a break my health.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
We need to know that everybody did. But again, I
think what's important is remembering we've got this eight year
that's going to support your work and reputation. If you
invest in it if you use it and leverage it,
and how to do that personally, and how to work
within the system you have at work. And you can
also begin to find mentors or leaders who can work
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on the system if something's not working about the system, right,
So you can work in the system and on the system.
So those those are two different things.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
Prep prep prep prep, prep prep prep. I will tell
y'all and those who read my book know the story
of Jacob take the wheel. When I knew that something
was coming and I was prepared, That's the reason I'm
not dead. Yeah, be prepared, like preparing yourself every day.
It is worth it. You will be calmer as a result.
You'll be able to handle whatever comes at you. For real,
(33:02):
Like I think that is that's the number eight, right,
Like that's being and you and you'll soar s O
A R not s O R E because sometimes I
was there. You're sore, You're just sore. So why not?
Why why why stumble when you can soar.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
Prepared to soar? People? Remember our school.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
Is hard without the number eight and the other side.
Speaker 4 (33:31):
Thanks everybody, ye, thank you for joining us everyone, and
a special thanks to our producer Joey Patt and our
executive producer, Maya Cole Howard, who guides us well we
guide you.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
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Speaker 2 (33:59):
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Speaker 1 (34:04):
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