June 19, 2025 • 30 mins
This week Leslie welcomes Samson Crouppen, aka Secret Service Sam, whose hilarious takes on the Diddy trial are getting a ton of attention. But Leslie's convo with Samson goes pretty deep, getting into being bullied as a kid, the famous friends he's fallen out of touch with, and how he keeps making it happen in Los Angeles.
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
Okay, you're here.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Welcome back to another episode of Intentionally Disturbing Today. I
get to talk with Samson Krupin. He's a comedian, but
this episode is actually kind of heavy and a little more.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
On the therapeutic side.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Samson was heavily bullied when he was in school, and
we talk about what that did to him, how it
made him feel, and how he overcame that his resilience.
We also talk about his life as a comedian. We
talk about his relationship with Tiffany Hattish, and we talk
about how now today he is in New.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
York and he is covering the trial.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Of USA versus Sean Colmes, and he has found a
passion for kind of being an independent journalist who could
be a juror but really is a comedian and is
sitting they're in the overflow room watching this trial play out,
giving us his honest reactions and it has been very entertaining.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
I can't wait for you to meet Samson. Oh, hey,
you're here.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
I'm doctor Leslie and welcome back to Intentionally Disturbing Today.
Our guest is Samson Krupin and he's he's really famous
on TikTok for being a secret Service agent.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Exactly, but he's not. I'm really well, you know, it's
so hard to say. It's like, am I a real
Secret Service agent? You know? No?
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Would anyone ever know?
Speaker 3 (01:43):
I mean on TikTok No. What the way it started.
I was shooting a sketch with my friend Brandon Brodie.
Shout out to Brandon. We shoot a lot of viral
clips together. And this woman wanted me to play Secret Service.
She rented like an over office set. So at the
end of the shoot, I'm like, do you mind if
(02:04):
I shoot something real quick? And Donald Trump had just
had that assassination attempt where you know, fight for ye
and and they were all over the Secret Service like
they're fumbling. There goes like you don't understand.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
It is not easy what we do when you think
that we did not do our job. I did my job,
and I challenge anybody come to my house and my
and I'm like getting all like emotional.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
I'm like, kill me. I did not do my job,
just did it as a joke, just like a minute
long thing. And then as I get home, I'm like,
holy crap, this thing is like spinning on TikTok and uh,
And then it's like this whole thing with secret service Sam.
From that, when the Diddy stuff started to drop, I
(02:48):
just was like started to say, oh, Diddy's going down
with picking some big celebrity. So yeah, in like the
last two months, I've gotten you, you know, over one
hundred thousand followers, loyal Patriot followers, loyal patriots. Somebody one
day is like Patriot checking in. I was like, dang.
I was like, oh my god, you just created my catchphrase.
(03:11):
And so I just kind of took it from there,
you know, and I say, I don't make the news.
I break the news.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
But what I like about it is that I believe you.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
I like I I even though you're really funny when
you say it, I trust.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Your opinion and what you're actually saying in the videos.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
Wow, thank you. You know that's such a nice compliment
because people have said that, like Sam, we trust you
with the news, and I'm like, really, like you, guys,
I hope you. Well, they don't realize I'm just going
into my guest bedroom and shutting the door. I most
times have on like my running shorts on below. You know,
I've got my freakin jacket, throw my earpiece in and
(03:51):
just my shirt. But it's just it'd be pretty funny
if somebody took a wide shot of me shooting this
because I'm like in my underwear and I'm like a
mullet you know, do that top? Yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (04:01):
So how do you how do you come up with
your videos? Like do you research? Are you asking your friends?
Speaker 2 (04:06):
I mean I get a lot of random texts from
people in the industry like.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Yeah, here's your evidence in Jamie Fox's text.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
You know. What I like to do is find a video,
say if it's Diddy and like I did DJ Klid
and that was the thing. Pere like it's Khalid Klid
Khalid and I'm like Khalidovich. I'm like whatever, pla, you
can't pronounce it, Sam, But that gets engagement. But he
is in a video with Diddy where he's bent over
at the sink and he's brushing his teeth and he's like, Diddy,
(04:34):
you're making me nervous. Man. He's like, well, you're making
me nervous because Diddy has his hand on his shoulder.
So I see that and I'm just seeing the comedy.
I'm like, well, why is he so nervous that you
can't bend over? In front of ditty in front of
the sink, and it's just and then they both go, oh,
we're gonna have to cut that out. Thank god for editing. Yeah,
thank god for editing. I'm like, but the raw clip
(04:57):
is online. Yes, So I like to take things like that.
Tell people this is not misinformation, you know. I'm just
you know, in a way. I look at what I'm doing,
saving you the time from doing this stupid research. And
people love gossip and want to hear the latest.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
The latest.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Yeah, exactly, And I hope everyone goes and watches your
comedy special.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Oh, thank you. Yeah, it's called Proof I was Here.
I had been work shopping a lot of this material
in my backyard, throwing backyard shows in LA and as
a comedian, I just was starting to think about a
little bit my mortality of you know, Sam, it might
not be perfect, but what if you just don't ever
shoot it? So that's why I called it proof I
(05:39):
was here. Like I was telling you earlier, sometimes a
little I'm a little insecure about it, but it's like stripping,
you know what I mean. I'm like, Okay, my body
is about as good as it's going to get right now, Sam,
and so we're like, dude, your body look pretty good,
and some are like, your body look like crap, you know,
and and to take all of that and put yourself
out there as very vulnerable.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
So, I mean, I have this question. I don't know
how to ask it, but it hit me.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
I just feel like comedians have a really dark, fucked up,
depressed side too, and I want to know what yours is.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
I mean, that's what I'm trying to figure out too.
I mean, of course I have, you know, depression in
days where I feel terrible, I don't feel funny. Yeah,
it's brutal, I don't feel successful. I've been in this
business for twenty years and you can still feel like
dog shit. But I've also realized I'm very unique and
(06:35):
different from a lot of comedians where you know, I've
been with my wife since we're nineteen. You know, I'm
I haven't you know, I was like a stay at
home dad raising all of my kids. You know, I
didn't go out of town to be on the road
to build my stand up career until really, like now,
you know, now that my kids are old enough, I'm
(06:56):
really taking the opportunity. But I don't know that's the
funny thing, like Richard pryor all the comedians I know
a lot of them. It's sad there. Some are homeless,
they're struggling, some don't talk to their kids. So I'm
just sometimes look around and I'm like, where's the example
of me here? Sam, you know, and you don't see
it a lot. But that's also for me, my superpower,
(07:19):
you know, it's like it's taken me longer to get
where I am.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
I think it's important for people to know, though, like
it's something you have to turn on, and it's hard
to turn on sometimes.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
Uh yeah, I guess, so I don't know. For me,
I was always socially funny and I like conversations. So
the hardest thing for me. I started Second City in
Chicago in the late nineties, and the hardest thing for
me was learning, Oh man, like the funniest people I
looked up to are some are nerds, and socially they're awful,
(07:54):
and so it was so conflicting to me and be like, dude,
I was class president, I was popular, I could all
ways fit in most times, and I had a hard
time fitting into this kind of political thing because, like
you said, all most of them are turning it on.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Yeh.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
So I'd see somebody like, oh my god, you were
so fucking funny, and he'd be like, like what You're like,
You're like John Belushi on stage thinking oh I want
to hang out with this guy, and what a fun
person to smoke a joint with. And know they're just
that's the depressed people you're talking about. And I don't know.
For me, my comedy has always come out of joy
(08:33):
and inspiring people and having fun. And when I'm having fun,
the audience is enjoying it. So that's kind of you know.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Yeah, yeah, I see that. Like it's such an.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Everyone uses drugs in Hollywood, in LA and it's so
that they can't just perform and be there and be
up and on and then there's just this downfall.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
And if you don't need that, thank you.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
I mean I generally, I mean, I wouldn't like smoke
weed right before I go on stage. I wouldn't try
to drink a lot before I go on stage or anything,
because you know, you realize up there, any second you're off,
it's just you can't you know, You're you're on a
tight wire. So a lot of it for me, I
love after the show celebrating more so. And but yeah,
(09:24):
there is there is a lot of that in the industry,
probably a lot less than there was, yeah, I think
like in the nineties. Yeah, yeah, but I would say
probably where some of my you know, like you're mentioning
the darker side of like you know, I said when
I got a bullied growing up, or I was in
the special school district growing up and had an IP
(09:45):
and labeled with all these learning disabilities, so I was
called retarded growing up. Every you know, I remember I
ran for class president in sixth grade. Apparently nobody had
a tutor, you know, back in the day. And now
all my kids have tutors, you know, God, and it's
such a normalized thing. But when I was running for
(10:06):
class president, this guy Rob Pattillo, you know, f you Rob.
I just shouted you out. Bro. I don't know where
he is. I haven't foun him on Facebook. I was
running for a class president and he's like, don't vote
for Sam. He's retarded and he has a tutor, and
he's in the special school district. Because you know, I
had an IP, I had several learning disabilities, I like reading, comprehension,
(10:28):
behavioral disorder. I remember. I remember at one point we
had a parent teacher conference where they're like, yeah, Sam,
he's a sweet kid, but he won't stop dancing in class.
So I'm like, you know, I was just I think
ADHD to the max at that age. And I also
realize I have tourettes with punchlines. So I've had to
(10:50):
learn to control over the years just to say that.
You know, I love the old joke. You know, that's
what she said, but sometimes when you're in the workplace,
you know it's not appropriate. You know, can you put
that back inside of you know, that's what she said,
you know, like, Okay, HR did not.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
So you have like comedy in your veins.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
Oh yeah, Like my dad, my brother, we were all
voted funniest in our class. You know. Being the class
clown in my family was for the men was like
a write of passage.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
Oh I get it. Tell me about Marquise.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
Oh hilarious, Yeah, Marquise Williams. You know, rip Marquise. Actually
I found out got he got shot in like some gang.
You know, that's kind of like Marquise was this skinny
like weigh, you know, ninety eight pounds wet there was
this other guy Uless, which I don't know. I think
he might end up on the sex offenders list. Like so,
(11:44):
I always joke at least my bullies were tough, you
know what I mean. Yeah, and then another guy who
I won't name, who's you know, pretty successful now. But
it goes back to the point that, yes, they bullied me,
pushed me to the point where I was in the
urinal and Ulis came up behind me talking crap and
I'm ignoring, and then he kicks me from behind and
(12:07):
I piss all over myself in the urine. I was
in like third or fourth grade. So it's so funny
how it's such a core memory and I'll never forget,
you know. In my stand up I tell the story
it was like Ralphie in a Christmas story when he's
you know, I was like like crying, and that's what
(12:28):
had happened, you know, is at that point where I
just had decided enough was enough and I stood up
for myself. I beat him up, like I mean, I
was hitting him, kicking in Yeah, I just lost my ship,
you know. Yeah. No, I mean he never that was
(12:49):
and I get emotional about it because I always have
this core memory of seeing the three him in the
hall and I was like, and and they never they
never messed with me again.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
You had that moment of fuck, you don't fuck with me?
Speaker 3 (13:06):
Yeah, yeah, Ande mey can see I get emotional because
it's just uh.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
I see it.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
Yeah, you're tearing up. That's funny. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
So what's your mental health diagnosis for myself?
Speaker 3 (13:22):
Crazy as fuck?
Speaker 2 (13:23):
No.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
I mean I feel like I'm pretty I'm pretty normal
and even keel. I like to tell people, you know,
what you see now is the same on day thousand
and one.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
You know.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
I I like to pride myself on, you know, being loyal,
being real, authentic, kind of mad. Yeah, and a good
dad and a good dad.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
And I I hate that you went through that experience,
but I love the power you gained from it, Yeah,
and the ability to teach the kids.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
Hearing no because I had my now you know, yeah,
I had my son recently get bullied, and you know,
it was kind of funny before it. I was kind
of in my head, you know, thinking like when is
this kid gonna get bullied? Because he's had it pretty good.
Like he's so good looking, you know, he's got red hair,
he's like chiseled, perfect teeth, like I had fucked up teeth.
I looked like a jack O lantern. And everything I
(14:20):
built for myself was off making people laugh. You know.
I was short, chubby, you know, I'm always been cute
and charming, but like I really had to overcome this,
Oh I'm not stupid. You know. It's like so a
lot of that I've passed on to my kids of realizing,
(14:41):
like giving them the cheat code, you know, telling my
son about girls like no, if you make them laugh,
they think that's sexy. You know, that's something I learned
a few years ago, you know what I mean. And
so getting you know, my dad was awesome, but never
was like, hey son, how's you know, let's talk about
your girlfriends, what's going on? You know, and having that
open dialogue.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Yeah, so you can you can be there if you
notice something is off.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
Right because you know them on yeah, and he'll tell me,
I mean, that's the thing. He'll tell me, oh yeah this,
you know these kids, you know, just to let me know,
like what's really going on. And I think a lot
of parents make a mistake, like all my kid's good
and you're like you have no clue like listening to
your kid's door one time when he's talking to his
friends and he's like, fuck you, motherfucker. I was like,
(15:27):
who is that little gang member in there? You know?
And he's like, oh, Dad, you heard that. I'm like yeah,
He's like, we're just talking shit, and you know, so
just knowing what they're up to.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
We have to know.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
Yeah, we have to know.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
Okay, and we have to take a break because of commercials.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
We'll be right back.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
You got to pay the man.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Okay, and we're back and let's dive into living in
Los Angeles.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Yes, what is the worst thing that you've ever experienced
or that's happened to you in Los Angeles?
Speaker 3 (16:08):
That is a lot to unpack.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
You know, did you go to a freak off?
Speaker 3 (16:13):
I've had my own freakoffs, but they are not ditty freakoffs.
They were they were like fringe freak offs, you know
what I mean? Because I never got invited to them,
so I had to throw my own freakoffs.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
What's a fringe freak off? Baby oil with?
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (16:25):
Yeah, baby oil that is not spiked? No, you know,
you know, everybody is of age of age just you.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
Know, naked on tables covered in sushi.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
Now I don't mind that.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
Yes, what did you think you were going to get?
Speaker 3 (16:39):
Moving to La I thought I was going to be famous.
Within the first year. I had a script I wrote
called Saving Saint Louis, which was It's a great script,
and I was just I was such a salesman. I
mean I was a class president of my class all
four years in high school, which I don't only other
person I knew came close was Bruce Willis with three years.
(17:00):
So I was like a natural born go get her leader.
I had no fear to be like, hey, check out this,
and I came better than Willis. I was better than
Bruce Willis.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
Still am I mean we should.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
Be Hopefully I'll be in a diehard at some point.
There are many Yeah, I could be a great I
could be the great guy in the office is making
all the jokes and gets gets fucked up in the
end because I'm just trying to broke her a deal,
not realizing how serious.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
So what you wanted to act?
Speaker 3 (17:27):
Yes, I came here well straight out of college. I
went to Second City and actually started working there making
pizzas with Jordan Peel. Did the movie get out. Oh yeah, yeah,
he did the movie. Yeah. So Jordan Peele and I
were making pizza remain and he had his dress he
just twisted. I'm more like right next to each other
(17:48):
and pizzas and cal zones, and we became quick friends
because we both figured out we like smoking weed, and
so every night after work we would go to my
apartment and we would just get high and be like, yeah,
I'm gonna be bigger, and Eddie Murphy and I'm you know,
and I'd be like whoa, okay, yeah me too, you know.
But he had such vision for what he was going
to do, and he was able to go from Chicago
(18:08):
to Boom Chicago and Amsterdam to mad TV to Comedy
Central too, just you know. And Tiffany Hattish is, you know,
one of my good friends, so you know, sidebar, it's
it's it's interesting in this business coming up with people
and seeing them explode and you're kind of still down
(18:30):
here trying to reach them in a way.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
You know, Yeah, does how does that feel?
Speaker 3 (18:35):
Like?
Speaker 1 (18:35):
How do you navigate that? Because you've been here for
twenty years?
Speaker 3 (18:39):
Yeah, Tiffany's yeah, yeah, she's one of the biggest stars
in the world. You know, it's been a big learning
experience that in Hollywood we think, oh, your friend gets famous,
you're going to be right along for all the roll
off pinocha. And the fact is that's not how it works,
you know. Or you can't expect somebody to do what
(19:01):
you would do. You know, that's a hard lesson to learn,
and they don't understand it. They see Adam Sandler, they
see Kevin Hart as two people in Hollywood who've managed
to put their fucking friends in their shit into work.
Tiffany is a black female. At the end of the day,
she doesn't have the power that a man has. Her counterparts.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
I think one thing I really like about you is
that you you play on your white privilege.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
Oh yeah, yeah, can you can.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
You kind of talk more about that and how you Yeah?
Speaker 3 (19:36):
I mean, is it weird? Is it? No? Not at all.
The funny part is just you know, most white people
just can't let go of whiteness or not realize that
to admit white privilege does not mean anything changes when
you get pulled over. You know, if I if I
walk into a place the Ritz Carleton, let's say, and
I just walk in like me and my whatever whatever
(19:57):
I'm dressed. I'm always going to get in there with
without a look compared to Tiffany walks in there. You know,
I've been to the Four Seasons before. Tiffany kind of
took of her here. She had some money and she'd come.
My dad was staying there and I walk in, no problem.
She walks in. I have to go and be like,
she's no, she's coming to visit us. And so for
white people to not just understand the simplest that it
(20:19):
is different when you get pulled over. I got pulled
over with my mom in Saint Louis. I was speeding.
Officer comes into the car and goes Carol, and she
goes officer quickly, It's like, how are you doing? How
that thing end up? It pilates when that guy hit
your car. Oh, I'll tell you about it later, but
thank you. And he's like, son, will you just slow
down please? And you know that just doesn't happen to
(20:41):
black family. So you know, I do my joke where
this happened. I was like super high driving. I had
all these dent Tai Fung soup dumplings that's our favorite,
and I'm driving it to you know, to I think
my brother was in town or whatever, downtown. I'm like,
I take a left in a bus only laye. I
get pulled over and I'm so nervous. The cop comes
(21:03):
to the side of the car where the soup dumplings
are and I'm like, officer, might I offer you some
leniency on my ticket for some soup dumplings. He's like, nah, man,
I'm good, but thanks, And of course in my joke,
I'm like. He tells me to get out of the car,
so I go around to the back of the car
and he's like, I just didn't want to get caught
on camera. Give me one of those dumplings, you know,
and just showing that there's a whole courtesy that we get.
(21:25):
And I realized the way I look, I could rob
a bank and nobody would ever think it's me. I
was like, what, no, no, this gun, No, it's I'm
gonna put it away, Like, okay, you know.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
You you have educated yourself firsthand. And it's so different
than especially so many Americans who just passed judgment on
sexuality and race without ever like they've never met a
gay person, right, I've never met a black person. Yet
They're going to sit there and say that being gay
is wrong, right, And so I love the message of
(21:58):
like go fucking talk to somebody and educate yourself with
the actual person.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
Yeah, and I think that's that is everything, you know.
I'm the type like I have this woman who's a
trans woman online who I met. She started following me
on comedy and stuff like that, and I'm like, oh
my god. She loves to make model trains, she loves
Star Wars RC cars like a well, I mean, my
(22:24):
point is like she obviously was a man and transitioned
into a woman, but she was in the military and
was as manly a man as you can imagine, but
is trans now. And I'm just watching her journey of
like so scared now with what had I'm just I
never understand why you care? Why do you care if
(22:45):
somebody wants to live as a horse. Well, oh maybe, mister,
But you know what I'm saying, like, yeah, yeah, okay,
I'm not no BC reality, But it's like, whatever you
want to do, as long as it doesn't affect my life.
Why do I care? Why do I have to insert
my religious beliefs into what? Why can't we just let
each other live if you want to live as a clown. Great,
(23:08):
be a clown every day. You know, there's Richie the barber,
who's a guy a clown.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
But don't like have sex with stuffies and.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
Stuff don't have sex with stuffies. But still if that's
your bag and you want to do in the privacy
of your own home, A yeah, make sure the stuffies
are of age always, Yeah, I always say that. But yeah,
I wish people could leave each other alone. I do too.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
Let's take a quick break and we won't be fucking stuffies.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Okay, we're back now. I want to talk about secret
service Sam. Oh, yes, because that's different.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
Than than the guy you're getting here, and then.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
The all the all of the men I've just gotten
to know.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
Oh good, am I malted? Am I my multi personality?
You're diagnosing it?
Speaker 2 (23:59):
How do you feel you feel like continuing to rise
in Hollywood? But you're also naming a list celebrities and
that you've got that counterintuitive piece And that's why no
one has spoken out about all of this diddy stuff
for so long.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
Right, we don't want to hurt the hand that's feeding.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
Us, right, I'm actually a little concerned about that. But
it's just so hard. I've been doing comedy for so long,
I've been doing sketches, I put up eight million videos
podcasts online, and freaking finally the world pays attention to
me for this, this stupid secret service Sam. And so
(24:37):
I am conflicted about that because I'm like, I don't
want to freaking get up there. And eventually jay Z's like,
hey man, why did you talk that shit about me?
Speaker 2 (24:44):
Sam?
Speaker 3 (24:44):
You know? Why Son? You know?
Speaker 1 (24:46):
Or is that how he sounds?
Speaker 3 (24:48):
I don't know. In my head that's how he sounds.
We got another one, No, that's DJ Kylet, But I
just that is a bit of a concern. But I'm
also like, well, maybe I'm just kind of the funny
TMZ for now. And I'll, you know, because my goal
is eventually, like I love Jim Carrey, I love Will
Ferrell to act in movies. That's really what I'm best at,
is comedic acting and improvisation.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
But not everyone in Hollywood is bad, No, not at all.
And I'm the music industry.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
Yeah, and of course I don't dislike anybody. I mean,
to be honest, I'm just like, yeah, yeah, I'm just
like I'm hearing what everybody else is talking about. And
I believe I'm just saying it in a funnier, more
palatable way than what most other people are doing it.
And so I'm looking That's why I wanted to get
it into the live arena of it. People coming to
(25:39):
see me live, buy tickets. I can do secret service. Sam.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
So, in a sense, comedy has kind of saved your life?
Speaker 3 (25:47):
Oh god, yeah, yeah, I mean it has. I mean,
and it's been hard. My wife, definitely, my family are
really my rock, because you know, there's a lot of
times you, you know, some little twelve year old tell
you that, oh you should kill yourself, You're not funny
at all. And then you and you ruin your whole
day because one person told you weren't funny. Rue. And
(26:08):
then I go to his page and start trolling his
videos of his family vacation. I'm like, your dad didn't
pay to get you to the front of the line
at Disney. You suck, you know. But it's it's hard.
You have to You have to believe in yourself past
all of your loved ones, your kids, your wife. Nobody
has the vision that you do. And I'd say the
(26:30):
hardest thing about what I do is looking past all
that negativity, you can't do this, to know I can
and then go ahead and do it. Nothing was hitting
and I just I keep working at it. You know.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
I think that's a huge message for people, is there's
something in you you feel identifies that you identify with
and how do you get through all the bullshit and
you keep that passion streaming through, streaming forward?
Speaker 1 (27:04):
Yeah, and you stay on target.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
Yeah? Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
Can you kind of explain or maybe if you were
giving advice.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
Right, what would it be. I mean, I tell my
kids it's just I mean I start every day which
is being grateful, thankful for the breath I'm breathing, you know,
very simple, just being happy. You know, my wife is
funny in the morning, She's like, okay, and I'm you know,
smacking around the belt, you know, and you know, but
she has a much harder job. But I just I
just try to be happy every day, you know. I
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try to be present and that just stay positive and
even you know, sometimes I like to look at when
I'm at my brokest, you know, my accounts and the
negative or whatever, and but I'm like, but look at it.
I still have a beautiful home. I have three beautiful children,
and my wife. So I think sometimes it's enjoying your
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you know, moments where you feel rock bottom, because you're
if you can enjoy it, then when you get everything
you you know you want, then if you.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
Can enjoy the moments where you feel rock bottom, you're
gonna enjoy everything.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
Right because when you're successfully be like, I'm not a
flash in the pan, you know, the hot to a girl,
God bless her. She's making her money. But what I'm
also so thankful for is a I'm a grown ass
man who's had twenty year career. I have a movie online,
I have a stand up career. I have a clothing line.
You know, I have all these things prepped and ready
(28:29):
to go. So when I hit, I'm not gonna be
What does Sam do? It's like, whoa holy where has
he been? You know? Right?
Speaker 1 (28:38):
Don't offer them what's the saying? Don't offer them water
unless you have somewhere for them to drink.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
No, maybe don't lead a waste of water. I don't
know what it is, something like that, though, you know.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
Okay, on that butchered note, I want to thank.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
You for being here, thank you for having.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
Sobbing on your couts like a little you think that's sobbing. Yeah, right,
But I've always said, you know, I do feel right now,
maybe I always tell people I feel non binary. But
to end this out on a controversial mope, but I
don't look non binary. People are like, oh right, Sam, right, Like,
but how can you tell me how I feel? You know,
I feel half my mom, half my dad. I feel
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really connected to feminine and look how I You know,
there's not a lot of men who sit like this.
Why I don't know, because they just don't. They don't
cross it up like this. I don't know. There's too
much too masculine. Oh, too much masculine energy. So I
like to think of myself as half man, half woman.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
Just to close out, Okay, what's the point of closing
out with that?
Speaker 3 (29:37):
I'm not really sure, you know why, because a lot
of times in comedy now, everybody wants to check this
off and I just want to be funny. But I
know if I actually said, you know, I am non binary,
which I feel I am, and that would help my
comedy career. But the problem is I don't look like
what people would say is non binary. What do you picture?
Speaker 1 (30:00):
I mean kind of a little bit of a class clown.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
Okay, but I mean you're sweet. Thank you, I mean,
and your kind eyes for.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
The people who can't.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
See you right now, right I do. I am a
little bit.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
But yeah, but not like we're all a little weird.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
No, yeah, I am weird. I'd much rather be. I mean,
I tell my kids, if there was no weird people
like whood we talked shit about, you know, if everybody
dressed normal, You're like, look at that dude. You know.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
So okay, thank thank you for having me, thank you for.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
Being here, of course, and thank you for watching another
episode of intentionally disturbing.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
We'll see you next time.
Okay, you're here.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Welcome back to another episode of Intentionally Disturbing Today. I
get to talk with Samson Krupin. He's a comedian, but
this episode is actually kind of heavy and a little more.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
On the therapeutic side.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Samson was heavily bullied when he was in school, and
we talk about what that did to him, how it
made him feel, and how he overcame that his resilience.
We also talk about his life as a comedian. We
talk about his relationship with Tiffany Hattish, and we talk
about how now today he is in New.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
York and he is covering the trial.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Of USA versus Sean Colmes, and he has found a
passion for kind of being an independent journalist who could
be a juror but really is a comedian and is
sitting they're in the overflow room watching this trial play out,
giving us his honest reactions and it has been very entertaining.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
I can't wait for you to meet Samson. Oh, hey,
you're here.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
I'm doctor Leslie and welcome back to Intentionally Disturbing Today.
Our guest is Samson Krupin and he's he's really famous
on TikTok for being a secret Service agent.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Exactly, but he's not. I'm really well, you know, it's
so hard to say. It's like, am I a real
Secret Service agent? You know? No?
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Would anyone ever know?
Speaker 3 (01:43):
I mean on TikTok No. What the way it started.
I was shooting a sketch with my friend Brandon Brodie.
Shout out to Brandon. We shoot a lot of viral
clips together. And this woman wanted me to play Secret Service.
She rented like an over office set. So at the
end of the shoot, I'm like, do you mind if
(02:04):
I shoot something real quick? And Donald Trump had just
had that assassination attempt where you know, fight for ye
and and they were all over the Secret Service like
they're fumbling. There goes like you don't understand.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
It is not easy what we do when you think
that we did not do our job. I did my job,
and I challenge anybody come to my house and my
and I'm like getting all like emotional.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
I'm like, kill me. I did not do my job,
just did it as a joke, just like a minute
long thing. And then as I get home, I'm like,
holy crap, this thing is like spinning on TikTok and uh,
And then it's like this whole thing with secret service Sam.
From that, when the Diddy stuff started to drop, I
(02:48):
just was like started to say, oh, Diddy's going down
with picking some big celebrity. So yeah, in like the
last two months, I've gotten you, you know, over one
hundred thousand followers, loyal Patriot followers, loyal patriots. Somebody one
day is like Patriot checking in. I was like, dang.
I was like, oh my god, you just created my catchphrase.
(03:11):
And so I just kind of took it from there,
you know, and I say, I don't make the news.
I break the news.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
But what I like about it is that I believe you.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
I like I I even though you're really funny when
you say it, I trust.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Your opinion and what you're actually saying in the videos.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
Wow, thank you. You know that's such a nice compliment
because people have said that, like Sam, we trust you
with the news, and I'm like, really, like you, guys,
I hope you. Well, they don't realize I'm just going
into my guest bedroom and shutting the door. I most
times have on like my running shorts on below. You know,
I've got my freakin jacket, throw my earpiece in and
(03:51):
just my shirt. But it's just it'd be pretty funny
if somebody took a wide shot of me shooting this
because I'm like in my underwear and I'm like a
mullet you know, do that top? Yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (04:01):
So how do you how do you come up with
your videos? Like do you research? Are you asking your friends?
Speaker 2 (04:06):
I mean I get a lot of random texts from
people in the industry like.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Yeah, here's your evidence in Jamie Fox's text.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
You know. What I like to do is find a video,
say if it's Diddy and like I did DJ Klid
and that was the thing. Pere like it's Khalid Klid
Khalid and I'm like Khalidovich. I'm like whatever, pla, you
can't pronounce it, Sam, But that gets engagement. But he
is in a video with Diddy where he's bent over
at the sink and he's brushing his teeth and he's like, Diddy,
(04:34):
you're making me nervous. Man. He's like, well, you're making
me nervous because Diddy has his hand on his shoulder.
So I see that and I'm just seeing the comedy.
I'm like, well, why is he so nervous that you
can't bend over? In front of ditty in front of
the sink, and it's just and then they both go, oh,
we're gonna have to cut that out. Thank god for editing. Yeah,
thank god for editing. I'm like, but the raw clip
(04:57):
is online. Yes, So I like to take things like that.
Tell people this is not misinformation, you know. I'm just
you know, in a way. I look at what I'm doing,
saving you the time from doing this stupid research. And
people love gossip and want to hear the latest.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
The latest.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Yeah, exactly, And I hope everyone goes and watches your
comedy special.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Oh, thank you. Yeah, it's called Proof I was Here.
I had been work shopping a lot of this material
in my backyard, throwing backyard shows in LA and as
a comedian, I just was starting to think about a
little bit my mortality of you know, Sam, it might
not be perfect, but what if you just don't ever
shoot it? So that's why I called it proof I
(05:39):
was here. Like I was telling you earlier, sometimes a
little I'm a little insecure about it, but it's like stripping,
you know what I mean. I'm like, Okay, my body
is about as good as it's going to get right now, Sam,
and so we're like, dude, your body look pretty good,
and some are like, your body look like crap, you know,
and and to take all of that and put yourself
out there as very vulnerable.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
So, I mean, I have this question. I don't know
how to ask it, but it hit me.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
I just feel like comedians have a really dark, fucked up,
depressed side too, and I want to know what yours is.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
I mean, that's what I'm trying to figure out too.
I mean, of course I have, you know, depression in
days where I feel terrible, I don't feel funny. Yeah,
it's brutal, I don't feel successful. I've been in this
business for twenty years and you can still feel like
dog shit. But I've also realized I'm very unique and
(06:35):
different from a lot of comedians where you know, I've
been with my wife since we're nineteen. You know, I'm
I haven't you know, I was like a stay at
home dad raising all of my kids. You know, I
didn't go out of town to be on the road
to build my stand up career until really, like now,
you know, now that my kids are old enough, I'm
(06:56):
really taking the opportunity. But I don't know that's the
funny thing, like Richard pryor all the comedians I know
a lot of them. It's sad there. Some are homeless,
they're struggling, some don't talk to their kids. So I'm
just sometimes look around and I'm like, where's the example
of me here? Sam, you know, and you don't see
it a lot. But that's also for me, my superpower,
(07:19):
you know, it's like it's taken me longer to get
where I am.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
I think it's important for people to know, though, like
it's something you have to turn on, and it's hard
to turn on sometimes.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
Uh yeah, I guess, so I don't know. For me,
I was always socially funny and I like conversations. So
the hardest thing for me. I started Second City in
Chicago in the late nineties, and the hardest thing for
me was learning, Oh man, like the funniest people I
looked up to are some are nerds, and socially they're awful,
(07:54):
and so it was so conflicting to me and be like, dude,
I was class president, I was popular, I could all
ways fit in most times, and I had a hard
time fitting into this kind of political thing because, like
you said, all most of them are turning it on.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Yeh.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
So I'd see somebody like, oh my god, you were
so fucking funny, and he'd be like, like what You're like,
You're like John Belushi on stage thinking oh I want
to hang out with this guy, and what a fun
person to smoke a joint with. And know they're just
that's the depressed people you're talking about. And I don't know.
For me, my comedy has always come out of joy
(08:33):
and inspiring people and having fun. And when I'm having fun,
the audience is enjoying it. So that's kind of you know.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Yeah, yeah, I see that. Like it's such an.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Everyone uses drugs in Hollywood, in LA and it's so
that they can't just perform and be there and be
up and on and then there's just this downfall.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
And if you don't need that, thank you.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
I mean I generally, I mean, I wouldn't like smoke
weed right before I go on stage. I wouldn't try
to drink a lot before I go on stage or anything,
because you know, you realize up there, any second you're off,
it's just you can't you know, You're you're on a
tight wire. So a lot of it for me, I
love after the show celebrating more so. And but yeah,
(09:24):
there is there is a lot of that in the industry,
probably a lot less than there was, yeah, I think
like in the nineties. Yeah, yeah, but I would say
probably where some of my you know, like you're mentioning
the darker side of like you know, I said when
I got a bullied growing up, or I was in
the special school district growing up and had an IP
(09:45):
and labeled with all these learning disabilities, so I was
called retarded growing up. Every you know, I remember I
ran for class president in sixth grade. Apparently nobody had
a tutor, you know, back in the day. And now
all my kids have tutors, you know, God, and it's
such a normalized thing. But when I was running for
(10:06):
class president, this guy Rob Pattillo, you know, f you Rob.
I just shouted you out. Bro. I don't know where
he is. I haven't foun him on Facebook. I was
running for a class president and he's like, don't vote
for Sam. He's retarded and he has a tutor, and
he's in the special school district. Because you know, I
had an IP, I had several learning disabilities, I like reading, comprehension,
(10:28):
behavioral disorder. I remember. I remember at one point we
had a parent teacher conference where they're like, yeah, Sam,
he's a sweet kid, but he won't stop dancing in class.
So I'm like, you know, I was just I think
ADHD to the max at that age. And I also
realize I have tourettes with punchlines. So I've had to
(10:50):
learn to control over the years just to say that.
You know, I love the old joke. You know, that's
what she said, but sometimes when you're in the workplace,
you know it's not appropriate. You know, can you put
that back inside of you know, that's what she said,
you know, like, Okay, HR did not.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
So you have like comedy in your veins.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
Oh yeah, Like my dad, my brother, we were all
voted funniest in our class. You know. Being the class
clown in my family was for the men was like
a write of passage.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
Oh I get it. Tell me about Marquise.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
Oh hilarious, Yeah, Marquise Williams. You know, rip Marquise. Actually
I found out got he got shot in like some gang.
You know, that's kind of like Marquise was this skinny
like weigh, you know, ninety eight pounds wet there was
this other guy Uless, which I don't know. I think
he might end up on the sex offenders list. Like so,
(11:44):
I always joke at least my bullies were tough, you
know what I mean. Yeah, and then another guy who
I won't name, who's you know, pretty successful now. But
it goes back to the point that, yes, they bullied me,
pushed me to the point where I was in the
urinal and Ulis came up behind me talking crap and
I'm ignoring, and then he kicks me from behind and
(12:07):
I piss all over myself in the urine. I was
in like third or fourth grade. So it's so funny
how it's such a core memory and I'll never forget,
you know. In my stand up I tell the story
it was like Ralphie in a Christmas story when he's
you know, I was like like crying, and that's what
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had happened, you know, is at that point where I
just had decided enough was enough and I stood up
for myself. I beat him up, like I mean, I
was hitting him, kicking in Yeah, I just lost my ship,
you know. Yeah. No, I mean he never that was
(12:49):
and I get emotional about it because I always have
this core memory of seeing the three him in the
hall and I was like, and and they never they
never messed with me again.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
You had that moment of fuck, you don't fuck with me?
Speaker 3 (13:06):
Yeah, yeah, Ande mey can see I get emotional because
it's just uh.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
I see it.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
Yeah, you're tearing up. That's funny. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
So what's your mental health diagnosis for myself?
Speaker 3 (13:22):
Crazy as fuck?
Speaker 2 (13:23):
No.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
I mean I feel like I'm pretty I'm pretty normal
and even keel. I like to tell people, you know,
what you see now is the same on day thousand
and one.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
You know.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
I I like to pride myself on, you know, being loyal,
being real, authentic, kind of mad. Yeah, and a good
dad and a good dad.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
And I I hate that you went through that experience,
but I love the power you gained from it, Yeah,
and the ability to teach the kids.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
Hearing no because I had my now you know, yeah,
I had my son recently get bullied, and you know,
it was kind of funny before it. I was kind
of in my head, you know, thinking like when is
this kid gonna get bullied? Because he's had it pretty good.
Like he's so good looking, you know, he's got red hair,
he's like chiseled, perfect teeth, like I had fucked up teeth.
I looked like a jack O lantern. And everything I
(14:20):
built for myself was off making people laugh. You know.
I was short, chubby, you know, I'm always been cute
and charming, but like I really had to overcome this,
Oh I'm not stupid. You know. It's like so a
lot of that I've passed on to my kids of realizing,
(14:41):
like giving them the cheat code, you know, telling my
son about girls like no, if you make them laugh,
they think that's sexy. You know, that's something I learned
a few years ago, you know what I mean. And
so getting you know, my dad was awesome, but never
was like, hey son, how's you know, let's talk about
your girlfriends, what's going on? You know, and having that
open dialogue.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Yeah, so you can you can be there if you
notice something is off.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
Right because you know them on yeah, and he'll tell me,
I mean, that's the thing. He'll tell me, oh yeah this,
you know these kids, you know, just to let me know,
like what's really going on. And I think a lot
of parents make a mistake, like all my kid's good
and you're like you have no clue like listening to
your kid's door one time when he's talking to his
friends and he's like, fuck you, motherfucker. I was like,
(15:27):
who is that little gang member in there? You know?
And he's like, oh, Dad, you heard that. I'm like yeah,
He's like, we're just talking shit, and you know, so
just knowing what they're up to.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
We have to know.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
Yeah, we have to know.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
Okay, and we have to take a break because of commercials.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
We'll be right back.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
You got to pay the man.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Okay, and we're back and let's dive into living in
Los Angeles.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Yes, what is the worst thing that you've ever experienced
or that's happened to you in Los Angeles?
Speaker 3 (16:08):
That is a lot to unpack.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
You know, did you go to a freak off?
Speaker 3 (16:13):
I've had my own freakoffs, but they are not ditty freakoffs.
They were they were like fringe freak offs, you know
what I mean? Because I never got invited to them,
so I had to throw my own freakoffs.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
What's a fringe freak off? Baby oil with?
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (16:25):
Yeah, baby oil that is not spiked? No, you know,
you know, everybody is of age of age just you.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
Know, naked on tables covered in sushi.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
Now I don't mind that.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
Yes, what did you think you were going to get?
Speaker 3 (16:39):
Moving to La I thought I was going to be famous.
Within the first year. I had a script I wrote
called Saving Saint Louis, which was It's a great script,
and I was just I was such a salesman. I
mean I was a class president of my class all
four years in high school, which I don't only other
person I knew came close was Bruce Willis with three years.
(17:00):
So I was like a natural born go get her leader.
I had no fear to be like, hey, check out this,
and I came better than Willis. I was better than
Bruce Willis.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
Still am I mean we should.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
Be Hopefully I'll be in a diehard at some point.
There are many Yeah, I could be a great I
could be the great guy in the office is making
all the jokes and gets gets fucked up in the
end because I'm just trying to broke her a deal,
not realizing how serious.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
So what you wanted to act?
Speaker 3 (17:27):
Yes, I came here well straight out of college. I
went to Second City and actually started working there making
pizzas with Jordan Peel. Did the movie get out. Oh yeah, yeah,
he did the movie. Yeah. So Jordan Peele and I
were making pizza remain and he had his dress he
just twisted. I'm more like right next to each other
(17:48):
and pizzas and cal zones, and we became quick friends
because we both figured out we like smoking weed, and
so every night after work we would go to my
apartment and we would just get high and be like, yeah,
I'm gonna be bigger, and Eddie Murphy and I'm you know,
and I'd be like whoa, okay, yeah me too, you know.
But he had such vision for what he was going
to do, and he was able to go from Chicago
(18:08):
to Boom Chicago and Amsterdam to mad TV to Comedy
Central too, just you know. And Tiffany Hattish is, you know,
one of my good friends, so you know, sidebar, it's
it's it's interesting in this business coming up with people
and seeing them explode and you're kind of still down
(18:30):
here trying to reach them in a way.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
You know, Yeah, does how does that feel?
Speaker 3 (18:35):
Like?
Speaker 1 (18:35):
How do you navigate that? Because you've been here for
twenty years?
Speaker 3 (18:39):
Yeah, Tiffany's yeah, yeah, she's one of the biggest stars
in the world. You know, it's been a big learning
experience that in Hollywood we think, oh, your friend gets famous,
you're going to be right along for all the roll
off pinocha. And the fact is that's not how it works,
you know. Or you can't expect somebody to do what
(19:01):
you would do. You know, that's a hard lesson to learn,
and they don't understand it. They see Adam Sandler, they
see Kevin Hart as two people in Hollywood who've managed
to put their fucking friends in their shit into work.
Tiffany is a black female. At the end of the day,
she doesn't have the power that a man has. Her counterparts.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
I think one thing I really like about you is
that you you play on your white privilege.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
Oh yeah, yeah, can you can.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
You kind of talk more about that and how you Yeah?
Speaker 3 (19:36):
I mean, is it weird? Is it? No? Not at all.
The funny part is just you know, most white people
just can't let go of whiteness or not realize that
to admit white privilege does not mean anything changes when
you get pulled over. You know, if I if I
walk into a place the Ritz Carleton, let's say, and
I just walk in like me and my whatever whatever
(19:57):
I'm dressed. I'm always going to get in there with
without a look compared to Tiffany walks in there. You know,
I've been to the Four Seasons before. Tiffany kind of
took of her here. She had some money and she'd come.
My dad was staying there and I walk in, no problem.
She walks in. I have to go and be like,
she's no, she's coming to visit us. And so for
white people to not just understand the simplest that it
(20:19):
is different when you get pulled over. I got pulled
over with my mom in Saint Louis. I was speeding.
Officer comes into the car and goes Carol, and she
goes officer quickly, It's like, how are you doing? How
that thing end up? It pilates when that guy hit
your car. Oh, I'll tell you about it later, but
thank you. And he's like, son, will you just slow
down please? And you know that just doesn't happen to
(20:41):
black family. So you know, I do my joke where
this happened. I was like super high driving. I had
all these dent Tai Fung soup dumplings that's our favorite,
and I'm driving it to you know, to I think
my brother was in town or whatever, downtown. I'm like,
I take a left in a bus only laye. I
get pulled over and I'm so nervous. The cop comes
(21:03):
to the side of the car where the soup dumplings
are and I'm like, officer, might I offer you some
leniency on my ticket for some soup dumplings. He's like, nah, man,
I'm good, but thanks, And of course in my joke,
I'm like. He tells me to get out of the car,
so I go around to the back of the car
and he's like, I just didn't want to get caught
on camera. Give me one of those dumplings, you know,
and just showing that there's a whole courtesy that we get.
(21:25):
And I realized the way I look, I could rob
a bank and nobody would ever think it's me. I
was like, what, no, no, this gun, No, it's I'm
gonna put it away, Like, okay, you know.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
You you have educated yourself firsthand. And it's so different
than especially so many Americans who just passed judgment on
sexuality and race without ever like they've never met a
gay person, right, I've never met a black person. Yet
They're going to sit there and say that being gay
is wrong, right, And so I love the message of
(21:58):
like go fucking talk to somebody and educate yourself with
the actual person.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
Yeah, and I think that's that is everything, you know.
I'm the type like I have this woman who's a
trans woman online who I met. She started following me
on comedy and stuff like that, and I'm like, oh
my god. She loves to make model trains, she loves
Star Wars RC cars like a well, I mean, my
(22:24):
point is like she obviously was a man and transitioned
into a woman, but she was in the military and
was as manly a man as you can imagine, but
is trans now. And I'm just watching her journey of
like so scared now with what had I'm just I
never understand why you care? Why do you care if
(22:45):
somebody wants to live as a horse. Well, oh maybe, mister,
But you know what I'm saying, like, yeah, yeah, okay,
I'm not no BC reality, But it's like, whatever you
want to do, as long as it doesn't affect my life.
Why do I care? Why do I have to insert
my religious beliefs into what? Why can't we just let
each other live if you want to live as a clown. Great,
(23:08):
be a clown every day. You know, there's Richie the barber,
who's a guy a clown.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
But don't like have sex with stuffies and.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
Stuff don't have sex with stuffies. But still if that's
your bag and you want to do in the privacy
of your own home, A yeah, make sure the stuffies
are of age always, Yeah, I always say that. But yeah,
I wish people could leave each other alone. I do too.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
Let's take a quick break and we won't be fucking stuffies.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Okay, we're back now. I want to talk about secret
service Sam. Oh, yes, because that's different.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
Than than the guy you're getting here, and then.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
The all the all of the men I've just gotten
to know.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
Oh good, am I malted? Am I my multi personality?
You're diagnosing it?
Speaker 2 (23:59):
How do you feel you feel like continuing to rise
in Hollywood? But you're also naming a list celebrities and
that you've got that counterintuitive piece And that's why no
one has spoken out about all of this diddy stuff
for so long.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
Right, we don't want to hurt the hand that's feeding.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
Us, right, I'm actually a little concerned about that. But
it's just so hard. I've been doing comedy for so long,
I've been doing sketches, I put up eight million videos
podcasts online, and freaking finally the world pays attention to
me for this, this stupid secret service Sam. And so
(24:37):
I am conflicted about that because I'm like, I don't
want to freaking get up there. And eventually jay Z's like,
hey man, why did you talk that shit about me?
Speaker 2 (24:44):
Sam?
Speaker 3 (24:44):
You know? Why Son? You know?
Speaker 1 (24:46):
Or is that how he sounds?
Speaker 3 (24:48):
I don't know. In my head that's how he sounds.
We got another one, No, that's DJ Kylet, But I
just that is a bit of a concern. But I'm
also like, well, maybe I'm just kind of the funny
TMZ for now. And I'll, you know, because my goal
is eventually, like I love Jim Carrey, I love Will
Ferrell to act in movies. That's really what I'm best at,
is comedic acting and improvisation.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
But not everyone in Hollywood is bad, No, not at all.
And I'm the music industry.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
Yeah, and of course I don't dislike anybody. I mean,
to be honest, I'm just like, yeah, yeah, I'm just
like I'm hearing what everybody else is talking about. And
I believe I'm just saying it in a funnier, more
palatable way than what most other people are doing it.
And so I'm looking That's why I wanted to get
it into the live arena of it. People coming to
(25:39):
see me live, buy tickets. I can do secret service. Sam.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
So, in a sense, comedy has kind of saved your life?
Speaker 3 (25:47):
Oh god, yeah, yeah, I mean it has. I mean,
and it's been hard. My wife, definitely, my family are
really my rock, because you know, there's a lot of
times you, you know, some little twelve year old tell
you that, oh you should kill yourself, You're not funny
at all. And then you and you ruin your whole
day because one person told you weren't funny. Rue. And
(26:08):
then I go to his page and start trolling his
videos of his family vacation. I'm like, your dad didn't
pay to get you to the front of the line
at Disney. You suck, you know. But it's it's hard.
You have to You have to believe in yourself past
all of your loved ones, your kids, your wife. Nobody
has the vision that you do. And I'd say the
(26:30):
hardest thing about what I do is looking past all
that negativity, you can't do this, to know I can
and then go ahead and do it. Nothing was hitting
and I just I keep working at it. You know.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
I think that's a huge message for people, is there's
something in you you feel identifies that you identify with
and how do you get through all the bullshit and
you keep that passion streaming through, streaming forward?
Speaker 1 (27:04):
Yeah, and you stay on target.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
Yeah? Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
Can you kind of explain or maybe if you were
giving advice.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
Right, what would it be. I mean, I tell my
kids it's just I mean I start every day which
is being grateful, thankful for the breath I'm breathing, you know,
very simple, just being happy. You know, my wife is
funny in the morning, She's like, okay, and I'm you know,
smacking around the belt, you know, and you know, but
she has a much harder job. But I just I
just try to be happy every day, you know. I
(27:33):
try to be present and that just stay positive and
even you know, sometimes I like to look at when
I'm at my brokest, you know, my accounts and the
negative or whatever, and but I'm like, but look at it.
I still have a beautiful home. I have three beautiful children,
and my wife. So I think sometimes it's enjoying your
(27:54):
you know, moments where you feel rock bottom, because you're
if you can enjoy it, then when you get everything
you you know you want, then if you.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
Can enjoy the moments where you feel rock bottom, you're
gonna enjoy everything.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
Right because when you're successfully be like, I'm not a
flash in the pan, you know, the hot to a girl,
God bless her. She's making her money. But what I'm
also so thankful for is a I'm a grown ass
man who's had twenty year career. I have a movie online,
I have a stand up career. I have a clothing line.
You know, I have all these things prepped and ready
(28:29):
to go. So when I hit, I'm not gonna be
What does Sam do? It's like, whoa holy where has
he been? You know? Right?
Speaker 1 (28:38):
Don't offer them what's the saying? Don't offer them water
unless you have somewhere for them to drink.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
No, maybe don't lead a waste of water. I don't
know what it is, something like that, though, you know.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
Okay, on that butchered note, I want to thank.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
You for being here, thank you for having.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
Sobbing on your couts like a little you think that's sobbing. Yeah, right,
But I've always said, you know, I do feel right now,
maybe I always tell people I feel non binary. But
to end this out on a controversial mope, but I
don't look non binary. People are like, oh right, Sam, right, Like,
but how can you tell me how I feel? You know,
I feel half my mom, half my dad. I feel
(29:16):
really connected to feminine and look how I You know,
there's not a lot of men who sit like this.
Why I don't know, because they just don't. They don't
cross it up like this. I don't know. There's too
much too masculine. Oh, too much masculine energy. So I
like to think of myself as half man, half woman.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
Just to close out, Okay, what's the point of closing
out with that?
Speaker 3 (29:37):
I'm not really sure, you know why, because a lot
of times in comedy now, everybody wants to check this
off and I just want to be funny. But I
know if I actually said, you know, I am non binary,
which I feel I am, and that would help my
comedy career. But the problem is I don't look like
what people would say is non binary. What do you picture?
Speaker 1 (30:00):
I mean kind of a little bit of a class clown.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
Okay, but I mean you're sweet. Thank you, I mean,
and your kind eyes for.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
The people who can't.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
See you right now, right I do. I am a
little bit.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
But yeah, but not like we're all a little weird.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
No, yeah, I am weird. I'd much rather be. I mean,
I tell my kids, if there was no weird people
like whood we talked shit about, you know, if everybody
dressed normal, You're like, look at that dude. You know.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
So okay, thank thank you for having me, thank you for.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
Being here, of course, and thank you for watching another
episode of intentionally disturbing.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
We'll see you next time.
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