March 3, 2023 • 13 mins
Macklemore joins The Jubal Show fresh off the release of his new single "No Bad Days" featuring Collet and album BEN.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Then Jubile show on demand. Something crazy is going to
happen on the radio station today. It's one of six
point one. Michael Moore is on the show right now
and he has a new single out called No Bad Days,
and he's on the phone right now. Unfortunately, it's not
a zoom interview where it's like video, it's just audio.
But Michaelmore, I do want to let you know that
I have somebody they're filming you right now. You just
can't see them, but no, it is just adio. Hey man,
(00:24):
thank you for coming on the show today. That's awesome.
I mean, we're premiering your song and we're playing it
all day long. We normally play like the same four
songs in a row, so it's awesome to have a
new song to play. And we're playing her new song
even more than we're playing those today. So that's dope. Man.
Tell us a little bit about the song. Oh, that's amazing.
I made this song. It was one of the first
songs that we made out the album and it just
(00:47):
felt good, it felt right. The song is called No
Bad Days. It's a record that just feels like summertime,
nothing to worry about, roll the windows down on the
whip and enjoy life. Yeah, you know, the song speaks
for itself. Honestly, your music speaks for itself, and your
career does too. Like you, you know, you obviously have
(01:07):
done some amazing things. And I don't remember the last
time were on, but we fixed our little beef that
we had that you definitely remembered that we had and
now we're best friends. So what That's cool? But other
than just being a song, right, like, you have had
struggles in your life. You've been through stuff, man, Like,
is that what it is for you? Do you have
no bad days? I mean, I know everybody has bad days,
(01:28):
but your outlook on life has got to be pretty
positive to struggle some stuff you struggle with and then
to live the life you live. I mean, you are
a positive dude, And I just kind of like to
always ask people who are in that place their perspective
on stuff so that people who maybe are struggling with
the same type of things can hear how you can
make a song called no Bad Days? Yeah, I mean,
(01:49):
I think the media does what the media does, and
I think that one of the things that's happened in
the last like you know, run of press that I've
been doing is like what gets highlighted is is you know,
the struggle or a COVID relapse, and the reality of
it is that as serious as that was and as
painful as that was, that that's not what my life
(02:10):
looks like today, That that was a two weeks really
unfortunate event that um, you know, happens two and a
half years ago, and that's not really like what this
album is about. So, you know, I just want to
say that because I've been doing these you knowing interviews
at the last couple of days and I'm like, yeah,
but it's not really the glue of this album. The
(02:30):
glue of this album is is expression is fun, Like
let's let's take him on a journey. And I think that,
you know, I can't just like anyone else. I go
through my own ups and downs. I have three kids,
I get very little amounts of sleep. I have a
dog that doesn't always doesn't always pop outside like that sucks.
But um, I love life and I love putting out
(02:53):
music into the world, and this is a moment of
celebration and as intensives it can get, I think it's
important to have those moments of flection, gratitude and acceptance
for life the way that it is. And sometimes it
doesn't make sense why it's panning out the way that
it does, but it usually makes sense in hindsight. Yeah,
it happened for sure. And also maclamore, you just helped
(03:13):
me realize something about myself that my wife often tells me,
I'm a terrible communicator because I wasn't even talking about.
I don't even know what you're talking about, like other
people have been asking you about with the event I'm
at just as a whole the grind and keeping your
head up like so, I don't know what you've been
what the media house focused on. But you're right though,
they will find like a little nugget that they can
(03:35):
focus on instead of just talking about the positivity of
things or whatever. And so I apologize if I sounded
like them, but I'm being sincere and now I don't know.
I mean, it's a real conversation and I enjoy having
the conversation. I get that I jumped the gun, but no,
I think that I don't think you did it. Applicable
either way, whether it's about this relapse or just you know,
(03:57):
struggle in general, I think that there's a light in
a dark all of it. Yeah, I think that any
album should have both sides. You show the full human
spectrum of emotion and feelings that we go through. And yeah,
I guess part of it is, like I feel like
I've been talking about the darkness so much the last
couple days. I'm like, this is I'm at right now? Yeah,
(04:18):
I want to be authentic. I'm at in my life
for sure. And what you say about the line darkness,
you can't appreciate the sun if you don't have some
rain sometimes, right, So you have to have a little
bit of dark in order to appreciate the good times.
And we'll have more with you in just a second, Malcolmore,
because this is a perfect opportunity for me to play
the song. Look at that. It's almost like I did
it on purpose, But I didn't because I don't do
anything like that planned on purpose. That was a happy accident.
(04:39):
But here's Malcolmore's new song, No Bad Days. His album
is out today too. It's called Ben and right after
this more with Malcolmore, It's a jewel show. That's Malcolmore's
new song No Bad Days. His album is out today.
To go get it. It's called Ben and we'll be
playing that song every other hour all day right here
on his one h six point one, and Malcolmore is
on the phone with us. If you didn't hear us
talking a few minutes ago. Awkward moment because I asked
(05:01):
Malcolmore about just his thoughts on not having any bad days,
and then he thought I was talking about something specific
and I had no idea, and I had no idea
what he was talking about. It was. It was kind
of weird. But Malcolmore, your music is pretty deep, right,
and that's why I think you have such a hardcore
following of fans that have been around forever. I mean,
you know, because I've been in Seattle for a long
(05:21):
time and when I first moved out here, you were
still doing um, you know, smaller venues and stuff like
you're all all all by yourself, and it is impressive.
But to see you blow up, I mean, there's people
that have been with you since day one and they
know that about you. And it's cool to see the
world seeing that too, you know, it's got to feel good. Yeah,
I love that. I mean, I think that there's always
that connection with I mean, obviously I live in Seattle
(05:43):
and from Seattle. Seattle as everything to me, and there
is that feeling of I don't know, it's special, especial
when your community is like, bro, we've watched you. You know,
we've seen you come up. We've watched it from when
you had twenty people at the Dive Bar in Kirkland
to you know, have a bull chop Suey to a
couple of showboxes to um you know, back to back
(06:05):
to back night to ki Arena. You know, that's a
really cool story and something that I don't necessarily feel
all the time. But when people tell me, dude, I've
been there from the from the jump, or I've been
here since two thousand and five or whatever it was,
that's a cool moment. What's the malcolmore? My name is Bennett?
Why is this the timing to have a self titled album?
(06:27):
Ben represents a return, a return to why I started
making music in the first place, getting back to that
place of wonder, that curiosity that comes from kind of
first hearing yourself and headphones, or first getting in the
studio and you know, working with others, that excitement that
I had, and really trying to tap back into that
(06:48):
place getting to the core, what connects us, what makes
us human? What truth do I want to tell? What
concepts do I want to explore? And that's a process
of excavation. It's a process of getting getting through the
cobwebs and finding your way back towards the purpose. It's
(07:09):
so easy to lose in the music business, you know.
I just realized something, speaking of being open and stripping
everything down last time you were on. For years, I
had been worried that I had like upset you right,
even though I don't think I did it right. And
I was like thinking about that. But then I realized, dude,
you and I have a history that you probably don't
(07:31):
care about, but you don't know about. And because I
was thinking about just now, you were talking about stripping
it down and stuff like that in just life in general.
And like I said, a few years after I moved
here at Macklmore Macalmore Mac wherever, he's going to the shows,
because you were doing a lot of local shows at bars.
Very like big moment in my life that I still
think about a lot was one of your shows. I
didn't go though to the show, but you were performing
(07:54):
in Olympia and you'll understand why I didn't go because
I was I was hooking up with this married girl
and her and her husband went to your show, and
she was texting me about how amazing the show was.
And then that's the night that her husband found out
about us, and it blew up and huge, and I
always remember every time I think of you, I think
of that whole situation. It was very dramatic, but I
(08:14):
was like, man, that show sounded fun. Though, Man, I
that was a journey of a story. Um, I didn't
know if you were going to lead to like I
actually one of my greatest sukups was one of your actors.
I would have been amazing. I would have been amazing.
Let's go back and but yeah, I think it's I
(08:36):
think it's a good thing that you stayed in Seattle
that night there very good. Yeah, and then there was
nothing there after that. So, um, but uh, you were
you were at jingle Ball in Atlanta when we were there. Um,
it was cool hanging out with you backstage. I didn't
see you at all, but uh, we were watching you
from the side stage, man, and like, it was so good.
(08:57):
It was so good, and you actually had to fill
in for I forget what was Pitbull was supposed to
be the fact that closed it out right, and then
they put you in there and then that slot because
he ended up not showing up, but um, yeah, someone
got messed up with his stuff, but like you ended
up closing out the show. And I gotta say, dude, like, um,
(09:19):
you know, I I saw you at the key when
you first do like you had your first shows. Everyone
he was like the you know, like you would just
done it and like the energy was amazing. But man,
you are able to control a huge crowd and bring
the energy wherever you want it. For anybody who's a
performer at all, you know that that is a hard
thing to do. What advice would you give to anybody listening?
(09:41):
Because people obviously listen to interviews like this to maybe
hear from somebody that they look up to, and it
would aspire to be like, what advice could you give
to them about how to perform live? Not even just music,
but how to perform because you're a performer, dude, Yeah,
I appreciate that. I think the best practice is just
getting on stage and just performing, get in front of
(10:06):
whoever is willing to listen. And what made me great
is that I performed in front of no one where
no one cared and I'm like, okay, well they don't
know my songs, they're not here for me. How do
I bring them in? What would I if I was
at this dive bar and there was some random due
to the microphone. What would win me over? And that
(10:27):
is just people want to feel like you're there talking
to them. They want to make eye contact, they want
to feel seen. And I think that it's the same thing.
It's applicable to fifty thousand people or fifty people. People
want to feel seen, they want to feel a part
of and the energy that you put out you're gonna
get back. And sometimes you really have to work for
(10:49):
that attention. You really have to work for that energy.
But yeah, it starts with just normal human things. Make
eye contact practice, Go to other shows, take notes of
what people did right and what people did wrong or
what you didn't resonate with, you know, go watch others
and and build up your own skill set while you're
doing it. Is there any advice that you would give
to artists from the PNW. I think my advice for
(11:14):
for anyone from the Northwest is um for one you
don't need to move. You don't need to go to
La Yeah, you don't need to go to Alanna. You
don't need to go to New York. I didn't. You
don't need to not saying that you need to stay
in Seattle the whole time. But I think that that's
like a man, it's Seattle's faults, Like no, no, we
have the Internet. We can't use as an excuse anymore. Right,
(11:35):
that's people here that want to support It's not like
you can't be seeing worldwide from wherever you're at. So
that's a great advice. Yeah, I know you're in touch
with the city and you have your eyes on what's
going on. So or are there any like waves sounds
people that you do have your eye on, and do
you feel intrigued to help them? Yeah? I got a
couple of them on the album. Actually, Oh, my brother
(11:57):
Vick is on the album. Charlie on a Friday is
on the album. Um, I've you know, and of course
a ton of musicians are on the album from the
Seattle area. I want to be someone that's you know,
I'm I'm in a different age bracket now. I was like,
I'm og status. I need to make sure that I'm
doing things the ogs did to me and pass on
(12:17):
to the next generation, so we don't we don't fumble
the ball. Yeah yeah. And on that note, um, I
wanted to talk. I was excited to talk to you today,
not just because your new song, uh and well Ben
drops today and we're playing No Bad Days from the
album um every other hour all day on the station.
(12:39):
I was excited to talk to you because I don't
know if you know this, Malcaelmore Uh, you know, I'm
sure you pay attention. But I got Ableton, and I
have been trying to make beats and stuff in my house,
you know, And so I'm wondering if I'm ready to
feature on one of your songs already, because I feel
like I am. Oh wow, I mean I love the company.
(13:04):
That was the nicest rejection I've ever heard of, Like,
how many times you're gonna be playing the record leading
into I got Enableton? Man, that's gonna be my rap
name is I got Enableton. But hey, man, thank you
for your time. I know you're busy. Appreciate you. And
if you ever are able to hop by the studio
(13:25):
like or drive down here however you want to get
here and hang out with us. That would be amazing.
Wet then happen we do. Man, appreciate you, thank you
for the record. Of course I have a going man
you guys that will go on too. It's the Jewel Show,
The Jewel Show on demand.
Then Jubile show on demand. Something crazy is going to
happen on the radio station today. It's one of six
point one. Michael Moore is on the show right now
and he has a new single out called No Bad Days,
and he's on the phone right now. Unfortunately, it's not
a zoom interview where it's like video, it's just audio.
But Michaelmore, I do want to let you know that
I have somebody they're filming you right now. You just
can't see them, but no, it is just adio. Hey man,
(00:24):
thank you for coming on the show today. That's awesome.
I mean, we're premiering your song and we're playing it
all day long. We normally play like the same four
songs in a row, so it's awesome to have a
new song to play. And we're playing her new song
even more than we're playing those today. So that's dope. Man.
Tell us a little bit about the song. Oh, that's amazing.
I made this song. It was one of the first
songs that we made out the album and it just
(00:47):
felt good, it felt right. The song is called No
Bad Days. It's a record that just feels like summertime,
nothing to worry about, roll the windows down on the
whip and enjoy life. Yeah, you know, the song speaks
for itself. Honestly, your music speaks for itself, and your
career does too. Like you, you know, you obviously have
(01:07):
done some amazing things. And I don't remember the last
time were on, but we fixed our little beef that
we had that you definitely remembered that we had and
now we're best friends. So what That's cool? But other
than just being a song, right, like, you have had
struggles in your life. You've been through stuff, man, Like,
is that what it is for you? Do you have
no bad days? I mean, I know everybody has bad days,
(01:28):
but your outlook on life has got to be pretty
positive to struggle some stuff you struggle with and then
to live the life you live. I mean, you are
a positive dude, And I just kind of like to
always ask people who are in that place their perspective
on stuff so that people who maybe are struggling with
the same type of things can hear how you can
make a song called no Bad Days? Yeah, I mean,
(01:49):
I think the media does what the media does, and
I think that one of the things that's happened in
the last like you know, run of press that I've
been doing is like what gets highlighted is is you know,
the struggle or a COVID relapse, and the reality of
it is that as serious as that was and as
painful as that was, that that's not what my life
(02:10):
looks like today, That that was a two weeks really
unfortunate event that um, you know, happens two and a
half years ago, and that's not really like what this
album is about. So, you know, I just want to
say that because I've been doing these you knowing interviews
at the last couple of days and I'm like, yeah,
but it's not really the glue of this album. The
(02:30):
glue of this album is is expression is fun, Like
let's let's take him on a journey. And I think that,
you know, I can't just like anyone else. I go
through my own ups and downs. I have three kids,
I get very little amounts of sleep. I have a
dog that doesn't always doesn't always pop outside like that sucks.
But um, I love life and I love putting out
(02:53):
music into the world, and this is a moment of
celebration and as intensives it can get, I think it's
important to have those moments of flection, gratitude and acceptance
for life the way that it is. And sometimes it
doesn't make sense why it's panning out the way that
it does, but it usually makes sense in hindsight. Yeah,
it happened for sure. And also maclamore, you just helped
(03:13):
me realize something about myself that my wife often tells me,
I'm a terrible communicator because I wasn't even talking about.
I don't even know what you're talking about, like other
people have been asking you about with the event I'm
at just as a whole the grind and keeping your
head up like so, I don't know what you've been
what the media house focused on. But you're right though,
they will find like a little nugget that they can
(03:35):
focus on instead of just talking about the positivity of
things or whatever. And so I apologize if I sounded
like them, but I'm being sincere and now I don't know.
I mean, it's a real conversation and I enjoy having
the conversation. I get that I jumped the gun, but no,
I think that I don't think you did it. Applicable
either way, whether it's about this relapse or just you know,
(03:57):
struggle in general, I think that there's a light in
a dark all of it. Yeah, I think that any
album should have both sides. You show the full human
spectrum of emotion and feelings that we go through. And yeah,
I guess part of it is, like I feel like
I've been talking about the darkness so much the last
couple days. I'm like, this is I'm at right now? Yeah,
(04:18):
I want to be authentic. I'm at in my life
for sure. And what you say about the line darkness,
you can't appreciate the sun if you don't have some
rain sometimes, right, So you have to have a little
bit of dark in order to appreciate the good times.
And we'll have more with you in just a second, Malcolmore,
because this is a perfect opportunity for me to play
the song. Look at that. It's almost like I did
it on purpose, But I didn't because I don't do
anything like that planned on purpose. That was a happy accident.
(04:39):
But here's Malcolmore's new song, No Bad Days. His album
is out today too. It's called Ben and right after
this more with Malcolmore, It's a jewel show. That's Malcolmore's
new song No Bad Days. His album is out today.
To go get it. It's called Ben and we'll be
playing that song every other hour all day right here
on his one h six point one, and Malcolmore is
on the phone with us. If you didn't hear us
talking a few minutes ago. Awkward moment because I asked
(05:01):
Malcolmore about just his thoughts on not having any bad days,
and then he thought I was talking about something specific
and I had no idea, and I had no idea
what he was talking about. It was. It was kind
of weird. But Malcolmore, your music is pretty deep, right,
and that's why I think you have such a hardcore
following of fans that have been around forever. I mean,
you know, because I've been in Seattle for a long
(05:21):
time and when I first moved out here, you were
still doing um, you know, smaller venues and stuff like
you're all all all by yourself, and it is impressive.
But to see you blow up, I mean, there's people
that have been with you since day one and they
know that about you. And it's cool to see the
world seeing that too, you know, it's got to feel good. Yeah,
I love that. I mean, I think that there's always
that connection with I mean, obviously I live in Seattle
(05:43):
and from Seattle. Seattle as everything to me, and there
is that feeling of I don't know, it's special, especial
when your community is like, bro, we've watched you. You know,
we've seen you come up. We've watched it from when
you had twenty people at the Dive Bar in Kirkland
to you know, have a bull chop Suey to a
couple of showboxes to um you know, back to back
(06:05):
to back night to ki Arena. You know, that's a
really cool story and something that I don't necessarily feel
all the time. But when people tell me, dude, I've
been there from the from the jump, or I've been
here since two thousand and five or whatever it was,
that's a cool moment. What's the malcolmore? My name is Bennett?
Why is this the timing to have a self titled album?
(06:27):
Ben represents a return, a return to why I started
making music in the first place, getting back to that
place of wonder, that curiosity that comes from kind of
first hearing yourself and headphones, or first getting in the
studio and you know, working with others, that excitement that
I had, and really trying to tap back into that
(06:48):
place getting to the core, what connects us, what makes
us human? What truth do I want to tell? What
concepts do I want to explore? And that's a process
of excavation. It's a process of getting getting through the
cobwebs and finding your way back towards the purpose. It's
(07:09):
so easy to lose in the music business, you know.
I just realized something, speaking of being open and stripping
everything down last time you were on. For years, I
had been worried that I had like upset you right,
even though I don't think I did it right. And
I was like thinking about that. But then I realized, dude,
you and I have a history that you probably don't
(07:31):
care about, but you don't know about. And because I
was thinking about just now, you were talking about stripping
it down and stuff like that in just life in general.
And like I said, a few years after I moved
here at Macklmore Macalmore Mac wherever, he's going to the shows,
because you were doing a lot of local shows at bars.
Very like big moment in my life that I still
think about a lot was one of your shows. I
didn't go though to the show, but you were performing
(07:54):
in Olympia and you'll understand why I didn't go because
I was I was hooking up with this married girl
and her and her husband went to your show, and
she was texting me about how amazing the show was.
And then that's the night that her husband found out
about us, and it blew up and huge, and I
always remember every time I think of you, I think
of that whole situation. It was very dramatic, but I
(08:14):
was like, man, that show sounded fun. Though, Man, I
that was a journey of a story. Um, I didn't
know if you were going to lead to like I
actually one of my greatest sukups was one of your actors.
I would have been amazing. I would have been amazing.
Let's go back and but yeah, I think it's I
(08:36):
think it's a good thing that you stayed in Seattle
that night there very good. Yeah, and then there was
nothing there after that. So, um, but uh, you were
you were at jingle Ball in Atlanta when we were there. Um,
it was cool hanging out with you backstage. I didn't
see you at all, but uh, we were watching you
from the side stage, man, and like, it was so good.
(08:57):
It was so good, and you actually had to fill
in for I forget what was Pitbull was supposed to
be the fact that closed it out right, and then
they put you in there and then that slot because
he ended up not showing up, but um, yeah, someone
got messed up with his stuff, but like you ended
up closing out the show. And I gotta say, dude, like, um,
(09:19):
you know, I I saw you at the key when
you first do like you had your first shows. Everyone
he was like the you know, like you would just
done it and like the energy was amazing. But man,
you are able to control a huge crowd and bring
the energy wherever you want it. For anybody who's a
performer at all, you know that that is a hard
thing to do. What advice would you give to anybody listening?
(09:41):
Because people obviously listen to interviews like this to maybe
hear from somebody that they look up to, and it
would aspire to be like, what advice could you give
to them about how to perform live? Not even just music,
but how to perform because you're a performer, dude, Yeah,
I appreciate that. I think the best practice is just
getting on stage and just performing, get in front of
(10:06):
whoever is willing to listen. And what made me great
is that I performed in front of no one where
no one cared and I'm like, okay, well they don't
know my songs, they're not here for me. How do
I bring them in? What would I if I was
at this dive bar and there was some random due
to the microphone. What would win me over? And that
(10:27):
is just people want to feel like you're there talking
to them. They want to make eye contact, they want
to feel seen. And I think that it's the same thing.
It's applicable to fifty thousand people or fifty people. People
want to feel seen, they want to feel a part
of and the energy that you put out you're gonna
get back. And sometimes you really have to work for
(10:49):
that attention. You really have to work for that energy.
But yeah, it starts with just normal human things. Make
eye contact practice, Go to other shows, take notes of
what people did right and what people did wrong or
what you didn't resonate with, you know, go watch others
and and build up your own skill set while you're
doing it. Is there any advice that you would give
to artists from the PNW. I think my advice for
(11:14):
for anyone from the Northwest is um for one you
don't need to move. You don't need to go to
La Yeah, you don't need to go to Alanna. You
don't need to go to New York. I didn't. You
don't need to not saying that you need to stay
in Seattle the whole time. But I think that that's
like a man, it's Seattle's faults, Like no, no, we
have the Internet. We can't use as an excuse anymore. Right,
(11:35):
that's people here that want to support It's not like
you can't be seeing worldwide from wherever you're at. So
that's a great advice. Yeah, I know you're in touch
with the city and you have your eyes on what's
going on. So or are there any like waves sounds
people that you do have your eye on, and do
you feel intrigued to help them? Yeah? I got a
couple of them on the album. Actually, Oh, my brother
(11:57):
Vick is on the album. Charlie on a Friday is
on the album. Um, I've you know, and of course
a ton of musicians are on the album from the
Seattle area. I want to be someone that's you know,
I'm I'm in a different age bracket now. I was like,
I'm og status. I need to make sure that I'm
doing things the ogs did to me and pass on
(12:17):
to the next generation, so we don't we don't fumble
the ball. Yeah yeah. And on that note, um, I
wanted to talk. I was excited to talk to you today,
not just because your new song, uh and well Ben
drops today and we're playing No Bad Days from the
album um every other hour all day on the station.
(12:39):
I was excited to talk to you because I don't
know if you know this, Malcaelmore Uh, you know, I'm
sure you pay attention. But I got Ableton, and I
have been trying to make beats and stuff in my house,
you know, And so I'm wondering if I'm ready to
feature on one of your songs already, because I feel
like I am. Oh wow, I mean I love the company.
(13:04):
That was the nicest rejection I've ever heard of, Like,
how many times you're gonna be playing the record leading
into I got Enableton? Man, that's gonna be my rap
name is I got Enableton. But hey, man, thank you
for your time. I know you're busy. Appreciate you. And
if you ever are able to hop by the studio
(13:25):
like or drive down here however you want to get
here and hang out with us. That would be amazing.
Wet then happen we do. Man, appreciate you, thank you
for the record. Of course I have a going man
you guys that will go on too. It's the Jewel Show,
The Jewel Show on demand.
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