“Our President Also Shares Our Love Of Young, Nubile Girls”: Jeffrey Epstein To Convicted Pedophile Larry Nassar

The Department of Justice sent out a tweet before releasing more than 30,000 new documents from the Epstein files, saying some of the documents contain “untrue and sensationalist claims made against President Trump.” The documents in fact, do contain damning documents from an apparent suicide note from Epstein to Nassar along with flight logs that show Trump on Epstein’s private plane more times than previously known, apparently with alleged Epstein victims. While the President is NOT accused of doing anything criminal, it is certainly raising a number of questions. Also, in today’s document dump, a jaw dropping email reportedly from former Prince Andrew to Ghislane Maxwell.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:02):
Hey there, folks. It is Tuesday, December twenty third, and
as we speak, we have journalists, hundreds, thousands, maybe of
journalists all over this country pouring through tens of thousands
of new documents and the Epstein files that have just
been released as a matter of hours ago. And you
will not believe the headlines coming out of this stuff

(00:24):
right now. Welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ.
We did not We had a whole other plan of
episodes we were going to do today and this stuff
started coming out. Tell me what your headline is right now.
As we're very familiar with this story, it takes a
lot for us to go, wait, what what would you
say is your headline right now that jumps out, jaw
dropping you.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
I would just say that I cannot believe that the
President of the United States is now being tied pretty dramatically,
not only to a conversation with Jeffrey Epstein, perhaps the
world's most notorious pedophile at this point, and now Larry
Nasser is involved, and there was basically what amounts to

(01:11):
a suicide note sent to Naser with President Trump's name
in it. That is about as big of a headline
as I could think of.

Speaker 1 (01:19):
Let's be clear there to just make sure that letter
was sent to Nasser. It mentions the president, but it
doesn't have his name in it. We need to make
clear it says the president urse And we also need
to make clear that there's nothing we have seen that
suggests any criminal behavior, criminal activity, or any suggestion that
the president was on an investigation. Now that we've got

(01:39):
that out of the way, Robes, the point you are making,
I think might be the headline. We have what appears
to be Jeffrey Epstein's suicide note that he wrote to
a fellow pedophile.

Speaker 2 (01:51):
Yes, and it just says our president what and at
that time it was President Trump. Now, yes, that is
shocking that the two were even conversing, and the fact
that this was a note that he sent that actually
ended up where it I guess he was in a
different dress, so it got returned to sender.

Speaker 3 (02:10):
But by the time it was postmark, Jeffrey Epstein.

Speaker 2 (02:13):
Was already dead. And for anyone who had questions, and
I will admit I was in that camp. I was
not convinced that Jeffrey Epstein died by suicide, I haven't been.
But when I read this note, I said, Wow, it's true,
Jeffrey Epstein died by suicide.

Speaker 1 (02:30):
All right, Well, folks, those are the two. There's going
to be plenty more throughout the day. Really were talking
tens of thousands of documents, and you have journalists all
over the country trying to pour through this stuff. So
let's we just wanted to hop on and give you
what everybody is talking about right now. Two things in particular. One,
the letter we're talking about, I guess looks more like
a postcard that he wrote on. Yes, all right, Jeffrey
Epstein wrote to Larry Nasser. Larry Nasser, Yes, the infamous

(02:53):
Larry Nasser, who was spending one hundred years in prison
essentially right now, for sexual assault for child pornography for
was it decade?

Speaker 2 (03:02):
It was. He was charged with sexual assault for more
than two hundred and sixty five women and girls over
a twenty two year period. Yes, he was a prolific
sexual predator.

Speaker 1 (03:13):
That guy. So yes, Jeffrey Epstein wrote to him in
what is now being interpreted as a suicide note. We
are going to read that full text in just a second.
The other big thing jumping out is an email that
shows appears to show Trump was on Epstein's plane quite
a bit in a three year period. We will explain.
This is an email that came from a US Assistant

(03:37):
District attorney talking to someone but explaining we reviewed these
filed these logs and it appears he was on the
plane a lot, and they lay that out. Those are
the other two big headlines. There's also a Prince Andrew headline.
We will definitely get to in this one as well,
but let's stay focused with this NASA letter. Rose. Reminder
of who this guy is. I don't remember the names
in particular, but he was worked for the US Olympic team.

(04:00):
He worked for Michigan State for a long time. But
there are a couple of Olympians who came out publicly,
stood up, testified. So yeah, this guy abused me.

Speaker 2 (04:07):
He was the US Gymnastics Olympic team's doctor. These are
young girls who are not taken away, but they live
away from their family to solely focus on becoming elite olympians.
And so yes, they are separated from families at young
ages to focus on their gymnastics career. And he had

(04:31):
full access to them as their doctor, and he betrayed
their trust and abused them.

Speaker 3 (04:38):
Repeated.

Speaker 1 (04:39):
So that's the guy we were talking about, and a
lot of you will remember that story. Again, he has
a state charges, federal charges, the equivalent of I really
do think it's one hundred and fifty years plus is
what he ended up being sentenced to.

Speaker 2 (04:49):
So go ahead, yes, no, I can tell you because
I just actually looked sixty years in prison initially, then
an additional forty to one hundred and twenty five years
to be served consecutively. So it was the de facto
life in prison without parole sentence. Yes, a lot of
years plus he will die behind bars.

Speaker 1 (05:05):
So the text of this again it looks like a postcard.
They have the actual image, not just the text of it.
But Jeffrey Epstein, days before he died, composed this thing
to send to Larry Nasser, who was at another prison
at the time. Why we don't know, and I want
to make sure it wrote. I didn't see anywhere about
them having a previous relationship. Why he reached out to

(05:27):
this guy, we will never know. But he wrote this thing,
he sent it, but because of the delays and its
prison mail, it's not exactly known to be on time,
so there was a delay. So the thing didn't actually
get postmarked till after Jeffrey Epstein was dead. So the
text of this is going to be interpreted, is going

(05:49):
to be analyzed, going to be talked about for quite
a while.

Speaker 3 (05:52):
Babe, I have chills.

Speaker 2 (05:53):
I have chills reading all of this that's just come out,
which proves the point that everyone was saying, this is
an everything. This can't be everything. Who's hiding something? These
emails and text prove that. Okay, Here is the text
of the letter that Jeffrey Epstein wrote to Larry Nasser.
As you will know by now, I have taken the

(06:15):
short root home and he put short root in quotes
good luck. We shared one thing, our love and caring
for young ladies and the hope they reached their full potential.
Our president also shares our love of young Newbile girls.
When a young beauty walked by, he loved to grab snatch,

(06:38):
whereas we ended up snatching grub in the mess halls
of the system. Life is unfair, yours, Jay Epstein. Holy moully,
I want to use an expletive, but I'm not. That
is in insane.

Speaker 1 (06:57):
A couple of things. One, if he doesn't know this man,
why is he writing this man, why would you write
a fellow like to commiserate? Only he can understand. Really,
there might be some people in our lives. You might
reach out to another breast cancer survivor people do that
all the time, do people? Is he really thinking he's
looking for someone who has gone through what he's gone
through and just reached out to what he thought was

(07:18):
a friend.

Speaker 3 (07:20):
There are a couple of theories. Either they did know
each other.

Speaker 2 (07:23):
Do we know whether or not they didn't? Okay, so
they could have known each other. They could have admired
each other's work. Like murderers and serial murderers and people
who are deviants, maybe all fine companionship with one another
or shared experiences or shared deviances, and obviously wanting to
be with young girls.

Speaker 3 (07:44):
And that you're a pedophile.

Speaker 2 (07:46):
So do all pedophiles do they feel like they share
a love of the same thing. But to me, it
seems as though obviously he knew he was going to
kill himself at this point. It clearly states you by
now you'll know I've taken in the short road home,
so short route home. So he was planning to kill himself.
So was this a way also to take Trump with him.

(08:08):
Was this a way to did he hope that someone
would find this and then go after Trump?

Speaker 3 (08:15):
Was this also a kind of final fu to Trump?

Speaker 1 (08:18):
Who knows?

Speaker 3 (08:19):
Because they had fallen out.

Speaker 1 (08:20):
This man is sitting in prison. Who knows. We will
never know what's in this man's head. It I don't know.
He could have He could have buried this guy a
long time ago, it seems like, and he chose not to.
But there, even here, he could have been more direct,
He could have been more accusatory, he could have been
more clear. I don't know if he had intentions. I

(08:41):
don't know. We of course, we won't know. This is
what it is, and it looks awful. It is one
of the most awful things to have come out about
the relationship between these two men.

Speaker 2 (08:52):
It's I mean, you might I think you could call
this a smoking gun because he was about to die
and he knew it, and he wanted to send this letter.
This was what he wanted to send. This is how
he wanted to go out. He wanted this to be known.
But also he wouldn't have known that Larry Nasser. Imagine

(09:14):
if Larry Nasser was at the address he sent this to,
and Larry Nasser received this postcard, this note. Would we
have ever seen it? It just so happens that he
was moved, was no longer at that address, and it
got returned to sender. And that is why we're all
aware of this right now.

Speaker 1 (09:35):
But they read mail, They read your mail in prison.
Now at the time this was sent twenty nineteen, did
everybody piece it together and was well aware? If a
prison guard read this and said our president, would they
really think much of him? That oooh I got something here?

Speaker 3 (09:50):
No, it depends on the guard.

Speaker 1 (09:51):
Larry Nasser would have received it. Would he immediately understood
and ran out and said, hey, check this out and
try to make a deal.

Speaker 3 (09:56):
Probably not?

Speaker 1 (09:57):
Probably not? Who knows? Did he ever expect this to
go out? So if you didn't expect it to go out,
what was his intent in sending it to this man?
I have no idea, But this is fascinating in robes.
Isn't this the day?

Speaker 2 (10:08):
You know what?

Speaker 1 (10:09):
Before I say that statement, I'm gonna save that statement
because it's going to make more sense when we go
through this next headline that people are talking about. And
this is an email. Now, this email is dated January
seventh of twenty twenty. This is from a US attorney
for the Southern District, an assistant assistant US attorney who
has apparently reviewed call excuse not call logs flight logs

(10:33):
of Epstein as a part of putting together and trying
to go after Galine Maxwell and trying to build a case. Now,
we don't know. I think it's right Robes. We don't
know who this was sent to.

Speaker 3 (10:43):
It's blocked out, it's redacted.

Speaker 1 (10:44):
There we go, so we know it came from the
US attorney assistant attorney. Damn, go right ahead.

Speaker 2 (10:50):
This is dated on January seventh, twenty twenty, at seven
fifty six pm. For your situational awareness, wanted to let
you know that the flight records we received yesterday reflect
that Donald Trump traveled on Epstein's private jet many more
times than previously has been reported or that we were aware,

(11:12):
including during the period we would expect to charge in
a Maxwell case. In particular, he is listed as a
passenger on at least eight flights between nineteen ninety three
and nineteen ninety six, including at least four flights on
which Maxwell was also present. He is listed as having

(11:33):
traveled with, among others, and at various times Marlon Maples,
his daughter Tiffany, and his son Eric. On one flight
in nineteen ninety three, he and Epstein are the only
two listed passengers. On another, the only three passengers are Epstein, Trump,
and then twenty year old name redacted. On two other flights,

(11:58):
two of the passengers rescis, respectively, were women who would
be possible witnesses in a Maxwell case. Whoof We've just
finished reviewing the full records, more than one hundred pages
of very small script, and didn't want any of this
to be a surprise down the road. And it is

(12:19):
signed the name redacted. But then you see assistant US
Attorney Southern.

Speaker 3 (12:24):
District of New York. How did this not get out sooner?

Speaker 1 (12:28):
This is solid as it gets in terms of uh,
it's okay, there we go, all right now? I believe
Trump said he never went to Epstein Island. I'm not
sure if he's all the time has denied ever setting
foot on that plane. I don't know if he has.
I don't think he has, But I don't think we
knew this. This is as solid as it gets. Now
you say smoking gun again. He is not accused of

(12:50):
any criminal activity. There's been no investigation no one has
said that, but ropes, I don't know how you explain
this away. How do you explain being on this man's
playing that many times? Again? This so this isn't really
being disputed. Nobody could dispute this, right.

Speaker 3 (13:08):
No, this seems pretty factual.

Speaker 2 (13:11):
Ye.

Speaker 1 (13:11):
Again, the US Attorney they're looking into this, and they're
actually trying to build a case against somebody else and say, hey,
just heads up, I'm looking at this law Who.

Speaker 2 (13:18):
Did they send this to? That's the interesting thing. Why
was that person's name redacted? Why shouldn't we know who
the US it's the assistant US Attorney to the Southern
District of New York. Why don't we know their names?
They're not victims, they're not potential victims, and they could
potentially be held accountable for some sort of not cover up,

(13:39):
but certainly trying to keep certain information on.

Speaker 3 (13:44):
The down low. Is that okay? Is that acceptable?

Speaker 1 (13:48):
He was the president at the time, right, so twenty
twenty he lost and then twenty one, yeah, so he
was president still at the time, first term. This appears
so yeah, and this is not how do you speculative?
I don't like doing that.

Speaker 3 (14:01):
I don't either.

Speaker 1 (14:02):
The point here being. This is written as if it's
a hey, heads up, yeah, so it would be somebody
in the president's circle. Hey, just want you to know.
I'm looking into this thing and I found this stuff.

Speaker 2 (14:15):
Don't you think that we as Americans should know who
this was sent to?

Speaker 1 (14:20):
I do who in it took. Maybe it was his lawyer,
and that's why we shouldn't know that. I don't know that.
Why they chose to redact, I don't know. But this
is as damning as anything that we have seen in
these files. This is as damning as anything that's been
out there, because this is not speculation. These are facts.
These are written, These are set in stone heart some

(14:42):
con cred wording about at least the relationship. But again,
we always have to be careful. He'll ropes that he
is not accused of anything criminal and nothing wrong. Excuse me,
nothing criminally wrong, I should say, and we have to
say that. But this is the day that we've had
so and trust me, folks, as we are speaking, folks

(15:02):
are pouring through these things now, Rhodes, I said this
to you first, before some of this stuff came out.
I said, they are already defending themselves before we even
know what the hell's in there.

Speaker 2 (15:13):
You said, there must be something really sensational going on,
because we were out running errants early in the morning
before the snow hit New York. And you said, babe,
the Department of Justice just put out a tweet that
makes me think something big is about to happen, And
you were correct. Here was the Department of Justice's tweet
earlier this morning. The Department of Justice has officially released

(15:35):
nearly thirty thousand more pages of documents related to Jeffrey Epstein.
Some of these documents contain untrue and sensationalist claims made
against President Trump that were submitted to the FBI right
before the twenty twenty election. To be clear, the claims
are unfounded and false, and if they had a shred

(15:58):
of credibility they serve would have been weabonized against President
Trump already, nevertheless, out of our commitment to the law
and transparency. That's hilarious because you were forced to sorry, well,
that's a fair laugh. The DOJ is releasing these documents
with the legally required protections for Epstein's victims.

Speaker 1 (16:20):
Yes, yeah, before we even started reading anything from the
files today, they sent that out and we knew something
had to be coming, and much more might be coming.
Romes because by all accounts, President Trump's name appears multiple
times and the people are just trying to find the
right context for it. But folks, stay here. You didn't
think we were going to get through all these pages
without a Prince Andrew reference? Did you stay here? Hey? Folks?

(16:51):
We continue on this, hey, yeah, Christmas Eve Eve, and
a lot of journalists are spending their Christmas Eve Eve
not out shopping, not online shopping, but staring at a
screen and going through tens of thousands of pages. That
robes quite frankly. Even the fact that the pages came
out today is mean they broke the law because they
were supposed to be out Friday. And what are we

(17:13):
getting a trickle? This is the third dump they have done,
so I guess maybe they feel is I don't know.
I mean, Chuck Schumer is trying to go after them.
He wants to pass legislation now to force what is it?
He what's the thing he wants, Chuck Schumer the resolution
we're talking about it.

Speaker 2 (17:28):
He wants to enforce the act which said that they
had to the Department of Justice had to release all
of the Epstein files and because they didn't. Now he
wants to put more legislation forward that would actually create
a punishment for not actually delivering on the law that

(17:49):
was set in place for them to be transparent.

Speaker 1 (17:52):
And what was the other one of the two sponsors?
They all contempt.

Speaker 2 (17:55):
They want to hold Attorney General Pam Bondi in contempt.
Actually some specific that would that hasn't been actually done
in modern times, but would actually put her in prison
until all of the files are released.

Speaker 1 (18:09):
All right, folks, you all know the name boal Moral.
People know that name by.

Speaker 3 (18:12):
No I think so, and especially royal followers know beal Moral.

Speaker 1 (18:16):
You know bout moral. I only bring that up because
you're gonna need to recognize that as we go.

Speaker 3 (18:19):
In on Queen Scottish residents. But she spends her summers.

Speaker 1 (18:24):
Mora's it's it's their hampton. So the summer it's.

Speaker 3 (18:28):
There's Scottish Highlands Hampton's Okay.

Speaker 1 (18:31):
That's where they hang out. Well, I'll only say that
because it's there's a reference to it in this email
we're about to let you here. Now, this is an
email between what is believed I say that Robes I
think most are reporting it as fact that this was
Prince Andrew, former Prince Andrew.

Speaker 3 (18:47):
Andrew, the former Prince Andrew, what is his friend?

Speaker 1 (18:51):
First and last night? I don't know if I always
want to call him Badminton, this.

Speaker 2 (18:55):
Is it's something close to that. But this is interesting
because when you see the from Andrew, former Prince Andrew's
actual email is creepy, right, the invisible man we creepy. God,
that's creepy. And then it's too Gallaine Maxwell and the
subject is summer camp.

Speaker 1 (19:17):
You know, it sounds fun, sounds innocent enough.

Speaker 3 (19:19):
This is disgusting.

Speaker 2 (19:20):
It was sent on Thursday, August sixteenth, two thousand and one.

Speaker 1 (19:26):
Oh, it's anniversary of Elvis Presley's death. I'm sorry. It
was just a random fact I saw from August sixteenth,
because I'm trying to lighten the mood before people get
pissed about what they're about to hear.

Speaker 3 (19:37):
This is disgusting. Woof Okay, so.

Speaker 1 (19:41):
What everywhere I think? Is this the one? This is
the one that a lot of people, a lot of journalists,
they actually gave you a warning before you read this.
It's like, hey, you're going to have a difficult time
or warning this could be triggering a graph for graphic
or something. This is I actually did this.

Speaker 3 (19:55):
I told you like it.

Speaker 2 (19:57):
Literally feel emotional reading this because it's so disgusting. So
this is reportedly from the former Prince Andrew to Gallaine Maxwell.
He writes, I am up here at Balmoral summer camp
for the royal family. I don't know how that isn't
Prince Andrew. Sorry, activities take place all day and I
am totally exhausted at the end of each day. The

(20:20):
girls are completely shattered and I will have to give
them an early night today as it is getting tiring
splitting them up all the time. How's la, Have you
found me some new inappropriate friends? Let me know when
you are coming over, as I am free from the
twenty fifth of August until the second of September and

(20:42):
want to go somewhere.

Speaker 3 (20:43):
Hot and sunny with some fun.

Speaker 2 (20:46):
People before having to put my nose firmly to the
grindstone for the fall.

Speaker 1 (20:50):
And this was Glaine Maxwell's response to that. So sorry
to disappoint you, However, the truth must be told. I
have owned been able to find appropriate friends this on
their own ropes. They don't. There's not an admission. There's
not a confession. There's not a smoking gun necessarily, but

(21:11):
as we peel this onion and piece that together with
the rest of the story, we know that paints a
very clear picture of what they're talking about.

Speaker 2 (21:18):
Inappropriate equals underage, appropriate means age appropriate. That's awfully, that's mine,
that's most people's, that's most people's understanding of what that
means coming from the invisible man. So their jargon isn't
exactly indiscernible. I think, yes, we can't say for sure.

(21:40):
Legally it wouldn't it wouldn't be enough, but common sense
will tell you we can understand what that code word
actually insinuates or means.

Speaker 1 (21:53):
Folks, this is going to be a day, and it
might be a couple of days, but these are a
lot of pages to go over. And what we can
tell you that independent agencies are going through it, and
they're all coming out with the same headlines. They're seeing
the same stuff, and they are finding the same stuff
that is newsworthy, new headline making jaw dropping even in

(22:13):
some cases. But I think this robes today. This might
be the worst Epstein File day that the president has.

Speaker 3 (22:22):
Had, oh without a doubt.

Speaker 2 (22:23):
And I actually was just imagining the mixed emotions that
the victims must feel. This must feel so validating and
at the same time so infuriating.

Speaker 3 (22:39):
That it has to be both of those feelings.

Speaker 2 (22:41):
But they're powerful and look, at the end of the day,
the truth is coming out.

Speaker 1 (22:47):
This will not be the last day, no doubt of this, folks.
We will hop back on if needed. We didn't expect
to be doing this, but this is actually a story
that is ongoing as we speak. Top right corner of
your Apple Podcasts app where you see our show page
that button it says follow. You get that you can
always get our updates as we put them out, and

(23:09):
there might be another Epstein one today. But as always,
we appreciate you spending the time here with us on
TJ Holmes on the Average, Amy Robots. We'll talk to
us soon.