December 22, 2022 • 18 mins
Andrew, Gare, and Mia debate the problematic nature of Santa Claus.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
H Hello, Ulu, welcome to another episode of It could
happen here with a twist. Um, this is the holiday
special answer for it. UM. So you know, buckle up,
you know Santa might make an appearance. UM. But I
(00:23):
don't want to take a moment to discuss, you know,
this whole idea of Christmas. This practice is globally celebrated
cultural festivity, and I guess on the not to be
stereotypically leftist, but the issues I have with it alongside um,
I think some of the ah best UM and most
(00:49):
I think UM hopeful elements within it. I don't know
about the rest of you. UM. And by the way,
I'm joined by Garrison and Christopher. I'm very excited we
get we get to finally talk about the issue that
(01:09):
I've been wanting to talk about ever ever since we
started the show. How telling your kids that Santa exists
is actually child abuse? This is very exciting. I'm glad
we can have this civil discussion to to to cover
these these hard hitting topics that are impacting us most.
In trying to say this like a Santin's abolitionist or something. Yes,
(01:32):
I think the fact that we condone lying to children
in this way every Christmas is. I'm sorry, but that's
that's so politically unrealistic. I don't know how you have
a platform. I can't take that seriously. Um, it teaches
our kids not to trust us. Um. It starts. It
is really an extension of the great Man theory that
(01:53):
Santa as this man, is the only one capable of
delivering all these presents. I think it's I think it's
quite trying to say so. It's a manifestation of patriarchy.
That's right, it is, it is quite. It's it's quite problematic. Um.
You know those elves are not getting paid. You know
that Santa has tried to bust unions at his workshop
every year. Um, I don't think this reindeer are treated
(02:15):
very well. Um. There is a whole, a whole lot
of issues here. Yeah, it's a normalization of the surveillance state.
It right on the shelves, classic, Yeah. Elf on the
shelf came to rise after the Patriot Act was introduced
to condition American children into thinking it's okay to always
be watched. This is it's it's this, this, this is sick.
(02:36):
Parents are culpable in promoting this myth. Um. I think
this needs to be addressed. You know what, I think,
you know what I think. I think you all need
to be Christmas pilled. I don't know about show, but
I love I love Christmas, and I think, um, I
think it's I think we need to take a Christmas bill. Um.
You know, of course the actual gift getting hasn't been
(02:58):
the best, especially we want to get past it. It
just like, okay, this is what it is. That but
you know, the the unity and the joy and the excitement,
I mean what about that? You know, the color, the
food and the drink, getting people together, um, catching up.
You know, celebrated in many different ways, religiously and non religiously,
(03:19):
and of course it's not even celebrated at all, um
in some places and with some people. Um. And you know,
there are other religious observances and holidays around this time.
They don't like Kinnaka and concern whatever else. But you know,
I think a lot of us are most familiar with Christmas,
and I think we're you know, mostly familiar with the
(03:42):
origins of Christmas. That's not the kind of episode we're
getting into here. Um. I think you know, we all
known about Jesus and you and sat Anlia and all
that fun stuff, knows it about Charles Dickens and Scrooge
and of course the die diagram of Scrooge and cringe
(04:04):
and you know whether or not those two concepts will
a laugh. But I want to look more to these
sort of you know, ideas of what Christmas is, what
it means, you know, UM, and really how a lot
of our society's issues come to the forefront around this
time of year. Um, the scourge of Scrooge is particularly apparent.
(04:27):
I mean, for many, Christmas is basically capitalism on steroids.
For one, UM and Santa have to sort of promote
that from an early age as a propaganda tool of
the capitalist as I'm sure would UM would. Thank you,
Thank you great. Well that's the episode everybody again. I
(04:49):
hope you I hope you have a good holiday season.
Oh wait, I think Andrew is more to say. Yeah,
I think we're wrapping up a little bit EARLYI there,
you know, but you know, we can't talk about the
fact that, you know, Santa really is UM a big
fan of this like ultimate now you know, the GDP
growth full of inducing this this pro growth ist capitalist
(05:13):
production for production sake, consumption for consumption sake, like the
idea that Santa expects children to write and request something
from him every single year. Um, that he he, he
stakes an entire holiday upon his own business and upon
his own you know production, whole industrial apparatus a center
(05:36):
around this one event, um. And I mean the sort
of consumption we see here on Christmas season, it's like
it ramps up, you know, online stores, department stores, malls
just posting with with people, um, looking to bye bye
bye all around the world. In America, at least twenty
nineteen so Americans spent over one trillion dollars just in
(05:58):
the Christmas season. I mean, it's just glorious excess, honestly.
And of course there's also the excessive you know, decorating
and shopping and drinking and the US and sort of
arrites with those things. And that sort of over indulgence
is part of what's seriously harm on the planet. Not
to you know, blame individuals and exclusively because you know,
(06:22):
obviously the sort of thing is encouraged by you know,
advertising and by the entire industries that builds around around
this this idea of consumerism. But the holiday is basically,
you know, it's become this thing where the focal point
is to indulge, to splooge, to consume um. And you
(06:43):
see a lot of Christmas movies too, I mean Christmas
of the Crowns is when particularly iconic example, and all this,
you know, consumerism, it feels like we lose sight of
the purpose, you know, of the gift giving. I don't
think we've lost our selves less nature. I think we've
lost some of the heart within it. I think it's
by design a natural tendency to care for the people
(07:03):
in our lives, a sort of exploited um. You know,
we're expected by the systems, are super hyper competitively in
the spirit of coupitlism. But now we have to be
super generous and caring around this time of year, but
just in a way that just so happens to profit
campus anyway. It's like, yeah, yeah, be generous, be caring
and stuff by this gift for you know, you know
(07:25):
you loved one, and I will pocket the change. And
I don't think it has to be that way. But
the commercialization of what we wants, who the days is,
you know, it tends to do that. And of course
with all these soup kitchens and canned food drives and
Red Cross Santa's outside groceries pulling and for some donations.
(07:47):
Um and by the way, it don't donate to Red Cross,
that kind of problematic salvation Army do not do not
donative salvation salvation my bad, it's I think that's confusing them.
Red Cross just takes credit for anarchist projects in the
relief of disasters and salation. Harmy hates gay people, so
(08:11):
it also has also has shot anarchists. I think they
don't talk about very much. Well, m that should probably
be an episode. Yeah, there's another way of that, but yeah, yeah,
you know, it's like all this stuff is happening, and
it's like this sort of performance of all of a
(08:32):
sudden we care about um, what's the name of that
little kid from Christmas Carol, Tiny Tim? All of a sudden,
we care about tiny Tim in a system that literally
requires an impoverished base of people. You know, poverty is
certainly this virtue that we we look to help to meliorate.
(08:56):
To be careful, you know, we we want to uplift
the tiny Tims. We want to warm the hearts of
the Scrooge McDuck's of the world. The rest of the year.
It's just like, oh, well, in this underclass is a
patrol and the class needs to exist. I think the
extension of our tendency towards mutually throughout the year and
across bonds of kid and on kind of like, um,
(09:19):
it's something that we should pursue UM to prefigure a
gift economy UM, not just around a particular season, but
year round. I think that is both while exercise to
look into and of course I think an ideal you
would want to see. I guess we could call us
(09:41):
my Christmas wish UM readjustment to this sort of consumption
around this time of year, the one that is done
with a sort of ad growth mindset. One of his
cognizance of local condition is the one that seeks to
reduce food miles soccalizes the production consumption. So that's I
guess wish number one. Christmas wish number one. Let's um,
(10:03):
let's make a gift economy rather than a capitalist gift
consumption day. And of course I think our next Christmas
wish on this topic would be a wish for work abolition.
You know, with all that consumpation happening around this time,
yet it really does a number on the service and
(10:24):
manufacturing and delivery and so and so forth workers around
the world. You know, work sucks in general, but its
extra sucks around this time of year. Um, you know,
with sweatshop labor, with retail hell. Around this season, it's
really the opposite of peace on you for a good
chunk of the working class. You could call it the
(10:47):
season for overworking. And it's not just for um, you know, gears,
token oppressed group, you know, the elves, like the other
workers that are being exploited that we should probably be championing. Yeah.
We we talked about this in a couple of China
(11:07):
episodes that I did. But one of the big reasons
for the sort of huge like workers up risings in
China in the last like a few weeks was that
like basically a bunch of people got locked into a
factory because Fox Gone and Apple were trying to hit
the Christmas like production targets, and people started fighting the
cops because they were like, this actually sucks. I don't
(11:29):
want to be stuck in here being lied to by
how much I'm going to get paid so that these
companies can have their Christmas sales. I mean, yeah, definitely.
I think it's completely fair to say that the worker
elves are very mistreated. Um. But with the exception I
think of specifically the elf on the shelf elves. I
(11:50):
don't think those count as workers. Elves are cops. They
only function as snitches for the surreal state. So yes,
the elf workers are are mistreated um and should unionize
and and should should deserve way more support and possibly
even the abolition of of work. But the ELpH on
the shelf elves are not workers. I think that's a
(12:12):
that's an important distinction. Yeah. Yeah, it's like the the
class strator is more than anything exactly, Yeah, very blatantly.
So yeah, it really is, you know, the season for
(12:35):
you know, with all this, it's very interesting that that's
really what triggered the protests in China. I mean, I
would love to see celebrations and festivals have given in
any sort of an archic society. But it doesn't fail.
No's at the right that these festivities um built on
the exploitation of others. I mean, what kind of celebration
(12:59):
is it to be had when people are suffering in
such a capacity to produce that sort of celebration. And
speaking of suffering. I think, um, there are a lot
of people who suffer through family around this time of year.
And I think some people actually appreciate having to work
(13:20):
through the holidays because it means they don't have to
deal with said family. And I mean family is a
big focus and the sort of culture of Christmas. But
you know, unlike the greeting cards and the billboards and
stuff that everyone's family is picture perfect, and holiday is
often open a lot of wounds and heightened read for
(13:40):
a lot of people. Um. People continue to hear people um,
and toxicity and intoxication is brought under one roof during
Christmas celebrations, bigotree abuse, that sort of thing. It's not
a fun time for some people. And I think it's important, uh,
(14:00):
in this season and in general, to let go of
this sort of patriarchal and restriction designation of family in
favor of something that is more subject to choice, to agency,
to consent to you know, more expanded forms of kinship,
bringing people together who care for and enjoy and want
to share each other's company, you know, create a new traditions,
(14:24):
to build new bonds of solarity and care. Um. I think,
you know, opportunities like these. Seasons like these enable us
to demonstrate the veracity of the liberation that can be
had in our projects. I think it's something that a
lot of people need around this season because mental health
(14:47):
boways seem to worsen around this time of year. They
often toxic culture of Christmas could be clearly bad people's
mental health, you know, with loneliness and depression and suicide
and the struggle to care your basic needs, let alone
enjoy the season. And it takes some big tool on
people's well being. I know it's easy to say or
(15:08):
just go to therapy and whatever, but with the inaccessibility
of therapy and the fact that you know, therapy is
not necessarily a salve for material conditions. UM. There needs
to be a social safety net in place. They must
be healing in community and not just an eolution UM.
(15:28):
And so I think the season is another opportunity for
us to reflect on that and to you know, try
to avail ourselves to those whom we feel my peace
suffering at this time and if you yourself for suffering,
and it's trying to reach out and sort of engage
in that sort of mutual mutual aid and mutual support.
I think there's a lot that we can reframe and
(15:50):
reconsider surrounding Christmas. I mean, for a season of kindness
and given it unfortunately hoots a lot of people. Um,
but that can change, you know, through solidarity, through generosity,
through kinship, solidarity organized in the bottom of the extension
of the principle of mutually into everyday life. Redirecting our
(16:14):
generosity he around this time from giving to the pockets
of billionaires to given to the people. Um. To display
our capacity for well doing, to think locally, to think
d I y, to think meaningful rather than to just
add another thing to the Amazon card. And of course
not just physically giving gifts, but as being generous with
(16:36):
our time and our love and our care because we
do need each other. Um, not just in this time,
but in general. I think bred Santa had some entertaining
suggestions of the season. To bred Santa, of course, being
Peter Kropotkin, he figured that we should all pose as
(16:57):
Santa Clause perhaps there as a subversion of what he
represents as a capitalist, but all pools as Santa Claus
or as St. Nicholas, and to infiltrate the stores and
give way the toys um. And one postcard Krobakin route
that of the night before Christmas, we'll all be about
(17:18):
while the people are sleeping, we will realize or Cloud
will expropriate goods from the stores because that's fair and
distribute them widely to those we need care. So yeah,
Merry Christmas and half your holidays to all and to
all are good. Fight for freedom. You can of course
(17:46):
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support me on picture on dot com slash saying true.
That's it for me for this year. For it could
happen here, See you all next year. Great destroyalist icon
(18:07):
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H Hello, Ulu, welcome to another episode of It could
happen here with a twist. Um, this is the holiday
special answer for it. UM. So you know, buckle up,
you know Santa might make an appearance. UM. But I
(00:23):
don't want to take a moment to discuss, you know,
this whole idea of Christmas. This practice is globally celebrated
cultural festivity, and I guess on the not to be
stereotypically leftist, but the issues I have with it alongside um,
I think some of the ah best UM and most
(00:49):
I think UM hopeful elements within it. I don't know
about the rest of you. UM. And by the way,
I'm joined by Garrison and Christopher. I'm very excited we
get we get to finally talk about the issue that
(01:09):
I've been wanting to talk about ever ever since we
started the show. How telling your kids that Santa exists
is actually child abuse? This is very exciting. I'm glad
we can have this civil discussion to to to cover
these these hard hitting topics that are impacting us most.
In trying to say this like a Santin's abolitionist or something. Yes,
(01:32):
I think the fact that we condone lying to children
in this way every Christmas is. I'm sorry, but that's
that's so politically unrealistic. I don't know how you have
a platform. I can't take that seriously. Um, it teaches
our kids not to trust us. Um. It starts. It
is really an extension of the great Man theory that
(01:53):
Santa as this man, is the only one capable of
delivering all these presents. I think it's I think it's
quite trying to say so. It's a manifestation of patriarchy.
That's right, it is, it is quite. It's it's quite problematic. Um.
You know those elves are not getting paid. You know
that Santa has tried to bust unions at his workshop
every year. Um, I don't think this reindeer are treated
(02:15):
very well. Um. There is a whole, a whole lot
of issues here. Yeah, it's a normalization of the surveillance state.
It right on the shelves, classic, Yeah. Elf on the
shelf came to rise after the Patriot Act was introduced
to condition American children into thinking it's okay to always
be watched. This is it's it's this, this, this is sick.
(02:36):
Parents are culpable in promoting this myth. Um. I think
this needs to be addressed. You know what, I think,
you know what I think. I think you all need
to be Christmas pilled. I don't know about show, but
I love I love Christmas, and I think, um, I
think it's I think we need to take a Christmas bill. Um.
You know, of course the actual gift getting hasn't been
(02:58):
the best, especially we want to get past it. It
just like, okay, this is what it is. That but
you know, the the unity and the joy and the excitement,
I mean what about that? You know, the color, the
food and the drink, getting people together, um, catching up.
You know, celebrated in many different ways, religiously and non religiously,
(03:19):
and of course it's not even celebrated at all, um
in some places and with some people. Um. And you know,
there are other religious observances and holidays around this time.
They don't like Kinnaka and concern whatever else. But you know,
I think a lot of us are most familiar with Christmas,
and I think we're you know, mostly familiar with the
(03:42):
origins of Christmas. That's not the kind of episode we're
getting into here. Um. I think you know, we all
known about Jesus and you and sat Anlia and all
that fun stuff, knows it about Charles Dickens and Scrooge
and of course the die diagram of Scrooge and cringe
(04:04):
and you know whether or not those two concepts will
a laugh. But I want to look more to these
sort of you know, ideas of what Christmas is, what
it means, you know, UM, and really how a lot
of our society's issues come to the forefront around this
time of year. Um, the scourge of Scrooge is particularly apparent.
(04:27):
I mean, for many, Christmas is basically capitalism on steroids.
For one, UM and Santa have to sort of promote
that from an early age as a propaganda tool of
the capitalist as I'm sure would UM would. Thank you,
Thank you great. Well that's the episode everybody again. I
(04:49):
hope you I hope you have a good holiday season.
Oh wait, I think Andrew is more to say. Yeah,
I think we're wrapping up a little bit EARLYI there,
you know, but you know, we can't talk about the
fact that, you know, Santa really is UM a big
fan of this like ultimate now you know, the GDP
growth full of inducing this this pro growth ist capitalist
(05:13):
production for production sake, consumption for consumption sake, like the
idea that Santa expects children to write and request something
from him every single year. Um, that he he, he
stakes an entire holiday upon his own business and upon
his own you know production, whole industrial apparatus a center
(05:36):
around this one event, um. And I mean the sort
of consumption we see here on Christmas season, it's like
it ramps up, you know, online stores, department stores, malls
just posting with with people, um, looking to bye bye
bye all around the world. In America, at least twenty
nineteen so Americans spent over one trillion dollars just in
(05:58):
the Christmas season. I mean, it's just glorious excess, honestly.
And of course there's also the excessive you know, decorating
and shopping and drinking and the US and sort of
arrites with those things. And that sort of over indulgence
is part of what's seriously harm on the planet. Not
to you know, blame individuals and exclusively because you know,
(06:22):
obviously the sort of thing is encouraged by you know,
advertising and by the entire industries that builds around around
this this idea of consumerism. But the holiday is basically,
you know, it's become this thing where the focal point
is to indulge, to splooge, to consume um. And you
(06:43):
see a lot of Christmas movies too, I mean Christmas
of the Crowns is when particularly iconic example, and all this,
you know, consumerism, it feels like we lose sight of
the purpose, you know, of the gift giving. I don't
think we've lost our selves less nature. I think we've
lost some of the heart within it. I think it's
by design a natural tendency to care for the people
(07:03):
in our lives, a sort of exploited um. You know,
we're expected by the systems, are super hyper competitively in
the spirit of coupitlism. But now we have to be
super generous and caring around this time of year, but
just in a way that just so happens to profit
campus anyway. It's like, yeah, yeah, be generous, be caring
and stuff by this gift for you know, you know
(07:25):
you loved one, and I will pocket the change. And
I don't think it has to be that way. But
the commercialization of what we wants, who the days is,
you know, it tends to do that. And of course
with all these soup kitchens and canned food drives and
Red Cross Santa's outside groceries pulling and for some donations.
(07:47):
Um and by the way, it don't donate to Red Cross,
that kind of problematic salvation Army do not do not
donative salvation salvation my bad, it's I think that's confusing them.
Red Cross just takes credit for anarchist projects in the
relief of disasters and salation. Harmy hates gay people, so
(08:11):
it also has also has shot anarchists. I think they
don't talk about very much. Well, m that should probably
be an episode. Yeah, there's another way of that, but yeah, yeah,
you know, it's like all this stuff is happening, and
it's like this sort of performance of all of a
(08:32):
sudden we care about um, what's the name of that
little kid from Christmas Carol, Tiny Tim? All of a sudden,
we care about tiny Tim in a system that literally
requires an impoverished base of people. You know, poverty is
certainly this virtue that we we look to help to meliorate.
(08:56):
To be careful, you know, we we want to uplift
the tiny Tims. We want to warm the hearts of
the Scrooge McDuck's of the world. The rest of the year.
It's just like, oh, well, in this underclass is a
patrol and the class needs to exist. I think the
extension of our tendency towards mutually throughout the year and
across bonds of kid and on kind of like, um,
(09:19):
it's something that we should pursue UM to prefigure a
gift economy UM, not just around a particular season, but
year round. I think that is both while exercise to
look into and of course I think an ideal you
would want to see. I guess we could call us
(09:41):
my Christmas wish UM readjustment to this sort of consumption
around this time of year, the one that is done
with a sort of ad growth mindset. One of his
cognizance of local condition is the one that seeks to
reduce food miles soccalizes the production consumption. So that's I
guess wish number one. Christmas wish number one. Let's um,
(10:03):
let's make a gift economy rather than a capitalist gift
consumption day. And of course I think our next Christmas
wish on this topic would be a wish for work abolition.
You know, with all that consumpation happening around this time,
yet it really does a number on the service and
(10:24):
manufacturing and delivery and so and so forth workers around
the world. You know, work sucks in general, but its
extra sucks around this time of year. Um, you know,
with sweatshop labor, with retail hell. Around this season, it's
really the opposite of peace on you for a good
chunk of the working class. You could call it the
(10:47):
season for overworking. And it's not just for um, you know, gears,
token oppressed group, you know, the elves, like the other
workers that are being exploited that we should probably be championing. Yeah.
We we talked about this in a couple of China
(11:07):
episodes that I did. But one of the big reasons
for the sort of huge like workers up risings in
China in the last like a few weeks was that
like basically a bunch of people got locked into a
factory because Fox Gone and Apple were trying to hit
the Christmas like production targets, and people started fighting the
cops because they were like, this actually sucks. I don't
(11:29):
want to be stuck in here being lied to by
how much I'm going to get paid so that these
companies can have their Christmas sales. I mean, yeah, definitely.
I think it's completely fair to say that the worker
elves are very mistreated. Um. But with the exception I
think of specifically the elf on the shelf elves. I
(11:50):
don't think those count as workers. Elves are cops. They
only function as snitches for the surreal state. So yes,
the elf workers are are mistreated um and should unionize
and and should should deserve way more support and possibly
even the abolition of of work. But the ELpH on
the shelf elves are not workers. I think that's a
(12:12):
that's an important distinction. Yeah. Yeah, it's like the the
class strator is more than anything exactly, Yeah, very blatantly.
So yeah, it really is, you know, the season for
(12:35):
you know, with all this, it's very interesting that that's
really what triggered the protests in China. I mean, I
would love to see celebrations and festivals have given in
any sort of an archic society. But it doesn't fail.
No's at the right that these festivities um built on
the exploitation of others. I mean, what kind of celebration
(12:59):
is it to be had when people are suffering in
such a capacity to produce that sort of celebration. And
speaking of suffering. I think, um, there are a lot
of people who suffer through family around this time of year.
And I think some people actually appreciate having to work
(13:20):
through the holidays because it means they don't have to
deal with said family. And I mean family is a
big focus and the sort of culture of Christmas. But
you know, unlike the greeting cards and the billboards and
stuff that everyone's family is picture perfect, and holiday is
often open a lot of wounds and heightened read for
(13:40):
a lot of people. Um. People continue to hear people um,
and toxicity and intoxication is brought under one roof during
Christmas celebrations, bigotree abuse, that sort of thing. It's not
a fun time for some people. And I think it's important, uh,
(14:00):
in this season and in general, to let go of
this sort of patriarchal and restriction designation of family in
favor of something that is more subject to choice, to agency,
to consent to you know, more expanded forms of kinship,
bringing people together who care for and enjoy and want
to share each other's company, you know, create a new traditions,
(14:24):
to build new bonds of solarity and care. Um. I think,
you know, opportunities like these. Seasons like these enable us
to demonstrate the veracity of the liberation that can be
had in our projects. I think it's something that a
lot of people need around this season because mental health
(14:47):
boways seem to worsen around this time of year. They
often toxic culture of Christmas could be clearly bad people's
mental health, you know, with loneliness and depression and suicide
and the struggle to care your basic needs, let alone
enjoy the season. And it takes some big tool on
people's well being. I know it's easy to say or
(15:08):
just go to therapy and whatever, but with the inaccessibility
of therapy and the fact that you know, therapy is
not necessarily a salve for material conditions. UM. There needs
to be a social safety net in place. They must
be healing in community and not just an eolution UM.
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And so I think the season is another opportunity for
us to reflect on that and to you know, try
to avail ourselves to those whom we feel my peace
suffering at this time and if you yourself for suffering,
and it's trying to reach out and sort of engage
in that sort of mutual mutual aid and mutual support.
I think there's a lot that we can reframe and
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reconsider surrounding Christmas. I mean, for a season of kindness
and given it unfortunately hoots a lot of people. Um,
but that can change, you know, through solidarity, through generosity,
through kinship, solidarity organized in the bottom of the extension
of the principle of mutually into everyday life. Redirecting our
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generosity he around this time from giving to the pockets
of billionaires to given to the people. Um. To display
our capacity for well doing, to think locally, to think
d I y, to think meaningful rather than to just
add another thing to the Amazon card. And of course
not just physically giving gifts, but as being generous with
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our time and our love and our care because we
do need each other. Um, not just in this time,
but in general. I think bred Santa had some entertaining
suggestions of the season. To bred Santa, of course, being
Peter Kropotkin, he figured that we should all pose as
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Santa Clause perhaps there as a subversion of what he
represents as a capitalist, but all pools as Santa Claus
or as St. Nicholas, and to infiltrate the stores and
give way the toys um. And one postcard Krobakin route
that of the night before Christmas, we'll all be about
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while the people are sleeping, we will realize or Cloud
will expropriate goods from the stores because that's fair and
distribute them widely to those we need care. So yeah,
Merry Christmas and half your holidays to all and to
all are good. Fight for freedom. You can of course
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find me on YouTube at androids um dot com slash
and underscore saying true, and if you want, you can
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That's it for me for this year. For it could
happen here, See you all next year. Great destroyalist icon
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