AKADEMIKS DESTROYING NBA YOUNGBOY'S $56M TOUR?! ATLANTA CONCERT CANCELED + MARC LAMONT HILL & QUEENZFLIP On The Joe Budden Podcast

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Done x Y and Z man.

Speaker 2 (00:01):
You putting young in the situation to lose money. Yeah,
we gotta cancel that show, sir. We didn't know you
was doing a this song. You know how many times
Dirk men Winning done that little song or doing slick
this songs in these arenas, but they don't make a
big thing about it.

Speaker 1 (00:18):
It ain't a big deal.

Speaker 2 (00:19):
Ain't no running to the internet putting no context around
some shit that's just supposed to be about us in
this situation. Right, This shit got blood on it. This
shit got real blood on it. You got a internet
running to the internet.

Speaker 3 (00:34):
Yo.

Speaker 1 (00:35):
Man that walk down. Pay attention to what he said.

Speaker 4 (00:38):
I just seen that. I just seen the walk down
of a lifetime in Atlanta.

Speaker 1 (00:42):
Yo.

Speaker 4 (00:42):
And y'all gonna say I'm thick sucking, but this is yo.
Listen with all due respects even and again, I'm not
shitting catching trust me. This shit was bigger than not
like us. For me, ain't nobody get ain't nobody get
clat behind not like us. That's a fact. Like this
is a Yeah they called Jacob pettiphar Yeah al right, cool, cool,
cool name calling. This was a walk doown. This is

(01:03):
the biggest walk down since Gucci pulled up to Making
Georgia and perform the truth that was Pookylo's home kind
of thing.

Speaker 2 (01:12):
This is young Boy's first tour. Academics takes this huge
platform and rap a negative narrative around this ability to
go and pick up a million dollars a night, and
he pushes it out there and guess what happens. State
Farm Marena decides to do what they decide to cancel

(01:34):
his second show waiting today. It's more so geared a
young boy even aligned when him and bird Man, one
of y'all supposed to get home on line one, Yo,
you might be for the money up man.

Speaker 1 (01:46):
You got to shut up with all that talking.

Speaker 2 (01:50):
Say man, you went and made all the videos mocking them,
and nobody from Atlanta say nothing.

Speaker 1 (01:55):
They letting him get his money.

Speaker 2 (01:56):
It's his first tour, it's his first trip around the
son on. It's rod Wayne fifth year, this Baby fourth year,
this Travis fifth, sixth year, this Drake tenth year. Been
around the sun with this shit, yo, yo, yo, welcome back.
I just wanted to pop back again. Of course, we
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(02:19):
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(02:40):
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Speaker 1 (03:33):
Listen.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
Last episode we did, I spoke about academics NBA Young Boy.
We kind of touched on some of the things surrounding
some of the hipocritical behavior that comes from somemmer media
that's kind of stirring up what looks like beef on
behalf of NBA Young Boy. They're trying to it's almost
like they're trying to hold him back, and so I

(03:54):
want to make I want to have this conversation. So
I wanted to pop back in because new information has
just been revealed while they're in the editing process up
to the other episode that should be out right now.
If it's not out, if it's not on Patreon, it'll
be out in the knicks. I would say ten hours
or so if you're seeing this. So, but for people

(04:16):
who do not know, NBA Young Boy is on his tour,
very successful toward the young man has a fan base
that is activated in a way where you can see
that purchase in power. And again what I said in
the last episode, I don't want it to be too
it's me hating on Young Boy because I kind of
like what he do. You know, I know some of
the people on his team, and I like to see

(04:38):
young come from the trenches and get them some money. So,
you know, definitely definitely with him on that front. But
you know, I'm always called spade a spade. Can't nobody
pull my ring, Can't nobody say nothing to me, back
me or nothing. So I get to say whatever I
want to say, and I'm probably one of the few
people that can do that. But when it comes to
Young Boy, as we all in the culture kind of

(05:00):
celebrating his first trip around the sun, again, I made
a clear last episode if you're not a fan of
Young Boy, if you don't really understand the business element
that this culture has, Young Boy has never been able
to better fruits of his label. Right when Young Boy

(05:21):
blew up, he got into legal trouble, then COVID happened,
then he got in a more legal trouble. He has
never been able to really go out there and see
what it's like. Feel my fans stayed to State pick
up a million dollars a night, whatever the case may be.

Speaker 1 (05:35):
He's never been able to do that.

Speaker 2 (05:36):
So this is his first trip around the sun, and
I want people to kind of appreciate it from that perspective,
but also understand it from that perspective when they talk
about some of these other artists like your Rod Waves
or your Little Babies, or your Travis Scott or your
Drake so any of these people that's been on tour
for the last five years selling out arenas. I think

(05:56):
there's even Glorilla sexy Red some of these people. And
I think sexy Red, with all due respect, maybe her
profile hast came down some and so maybe she has
to go on tour with someone at this point. But
there was a point where sexy Red was one of
a premier act as far as torn like selling tickets.
People really get up and get out there and go

(06:19):
and see sexy Red. And so all I'm saying is,
no one is hating on Young Boy, right, and so
let's get to the meeting potatoes or what the conversation
really is surrounding around. Academics got into a scenario where
he saw NBA Young Boy head to Atlanta, NBA. Young
Boy did what's called this song. I think it's the
song I Hate Young Boy in which he addressed a

(06:41):
lot of people in that song. Now, Young Boy as
an artist is put in a very interesting situation because
if you go to the town and you don't do it,
that kind of hurts your brain. But you stay loyal
to your fan base and you go and do the song,
but you don't want to. You know, you ain't really
dissing these boys, you ain't really posting it act trying
to really go at these And I know more than

(07:03):
I'm saying that green flag. It's a lot of people
that's tied in with their green flag that you know,
I got real love for and they got respect for
my campaign. So I got more information than I can
really leave it on. But nonetheless, young Boy comes to Atlanta,
he does the discs on way this Gucci he dissed,
he damn it dissed a bunch of people, anybody that

(07:24):
he saw standing next to Little Dirt. And so following that, academics,
I guess flew home. He wasn't even home an entire
day or two, and he went on stream and he
antagonized all of the rappers from Atlanta. He antagonized the
city of Atlanta, and he raised some awareness that there
was some contradictions in what was going on as it

(07:45):
pertains to Young Boy.

Speaker 1 (07:48):
You dig.

Speaker 2 (07:48):
He spoke about young Boy's ability to rap about what
he raps about and gets a reward. He even called
it a key to the city, and this had made
it all around the internet before Foldon County had to
actually come out and say, we did not give this
man a key to the city. And they're not saying
that as the shunning young Boy, but the news is
getting out of control. You did not see a key

(08:10):
on that stage, but for some reason people were throwing
shots at Atlanta, so they wanted to be like, yo,
he came to the Holly City and got a key
to the city. You know, he pushing out when he
kicking that kind of shit to try to I guess
I don't know what what academics is doing when he's
positioning Young Boy like this, But we're gonna zoom out
and take a look at it. It's it's very interesting.

(08:32):
It almost feels counterproductive, counterintuitive. It's not something that I
would advise, but let's take a look at it. Because
I have a podcast and this is what I do.
After Academics raised all of this awareness, basically said NBA,
young Boy's going State to State this and this is
how he's framing this young boy's chance to go and

(08:53):
get the money he deserve on tour.

Speaker 1 (08:56):
The young never been on tour.

Speaker 2 (08:58):
He go on his first tour and quote unquote, guy,
this is what I don't understand about a lot of
you wrap running behind these media and they be shitting
on you. I'm having a hard time with that coming
from where I come from, and they now shitting on
me ever in life, so I'm having a hard time
dealing with that. This is young boy's first tour. Academics

(09:22):
takes this huge platform and rap a negative narrative around
this ability to go and pick up a million dollars
a night, and he pushes it out there and guess
what happens. State Farm Arena decides to do what they
decide to cancel his second show. Now, why do I

(09:44):
say that the media and the narrative has something to
do with that, It's because his first show went well.
So Ever, Deadley, they had already went through a standard
operating procedure as it pertains the checks and balances, and
he passed it because he came the first night, but
all of a sudden that second night he was an
interception on the plate because the next two we have

(10:07):
around him like an academics kind of who done been
to nine or ten shows. Don't put him in a
scenario were jeopardizing the money. Let's take a look at
what State Farm Arena said on behalf of them canceling
the concert.

Speaker 1 (10:19):
Pay attention.

Speaker 2 (10:20):
State Farm Arena has now posted NBA Young Boy Concert canceled.
State Farm Arena has made a decision to cancel the
NBA Young Boys shows scheduled for Saturday, October eighteenth and Atlanta.
If you purchase tickets to ticket Masters, refunds will be
issued automatically. If you purchase from a third party reseller,

(10:42):
please reach out for your point of purchase. You know,
I've been watching less and less of these gentlemen, academics,
Joe Budden, I don't watch Drake Champs million dollars worth
of gat like I've been watching less and less of
all of these shows. You know, as I'm getting further
and further in the business, because I want to cater

(11:02):
my conversations around where I'm headed and not where I'm being,
And sometimes a lot of the podcasts that's available in
these niches are dealing with the past. With It's up
there podcast, I try my best to not only deal
with the past, but deal with the future and also
the present. Some of these podcasts don't even deal with

(11:22):
the present. They deal with the past. I'm trying to
remain intellectually curious and to keep myself in the scenario
where I keep gaining and garnering new information and try
to harness new techniques to help me along the way
in my journey. I want to be clear that a
lot of the shit that we see these guys with

(11:44):
platforms and media guys do is they thrive in this
space of chaos.

Speaker 1 (11:49):
Right.

Speaker 2 (11:49):
A lot of these companies are built and they're anti fragile,
and what tends to happen is the more chaos, the
more lucrative. And so when I see that, knowing that
I could be making money the same way, I bow
out of making money that way. I don't know why
I do that, Because I got family to save, I
got the village to feed, like, I got shit to do,

(12:10):
and so the selfish part of me sometimes looks at
ability to make two million dollars a month based on
rhetoric and narratives and spending news and things of that nature,
and you will say, man, listen, those chicks don't know
who writing them and don't care who writing them, and
they don't care who cashing them. And the billy don't
care how you got it. Yeah, and the mansion don't

(12:31):
care how you got it. The tuition don't care how
it was paid. That why Mama sometimes would have took
the drug money because we don't care how to rent.

Speaker 1 (12:39):
Get paid long as it's paid.

Speaker 2 (12:41):
And so sometimes you look at those things coming from
the hustler community. You know, the bigger issue here is
that win the wild wild West as it pertains the
content music kind of has a threshold. Even though that's
some wild things being said, I would argue that it's
not as free as us on this side. When you
got money and you really already built the platform against

(13:03):
our laws. Sometimes you operate in this little bitty spot
that it's hard to reach and it's hard to teach.
And so the creator spirit that I have really enjoys
the fact that we're in the wild wild West. But
I do understand that it has its cons and some
of these deregulated conditions that we sit in as content

(13:28):
creators with platforms, sometimes the rhetoric that we push out,
whether true or false, is took it as truth. I've
been studying these guys for years, you know, whether they're
my pills or not. You know, I've operated in this market,
and so what I've noticed is is that they survive
and thriving chaos. They make more money because people want

(13:51):
to hear the story relying to the fight, right. People
want to hear why they got the fight, and what's
the backstory and why was they into it again and
why she said that? And so I drive your fans
over here to me, and I make money off of it.
So first I planned the story, then I explained the story,
and I make money the entire time.

Speaker 1 (14:13):
It's a beautiful business.

Speaker 2 (14:15):
And it's not like academics or some of these platforms
started this business. This thing dates back to the early
twenties when paper was first being distributed as a source
of information. But they eat better in this kind of space, right.
They operate in this fractioned market and they thrive in chaos.
They chaos dependent. It's what you would call it. So

(14:37):
operating in this space, man, you run into a few things,
some of which you got to say something about it.
Some you know, you ignore. I think some of this
is getting out of control. And for the sake of
young boy, I want to come and have a real
conversation and possibly even put academics boots on. Maybe he
don't know what he's doing, and maybe I can teach
him a thing or two about how he's operating and

(15:01):
how he's painting a situation that he not gonna have
to deal with. You're not gonna be in Atlanta when
young boy pull up and you're saying all let and
reignite and all that energy. If it's no, it's them,
and so it's for him, right, So it's always for them.
It ain't never not for them. But sometimes you on
the outside reigniting all of that shit and.

Speaker 1 (15:24):
You ain't even gonna be in the arena. You ain't no.

Speaker 2 (15:27):
Where to catch you at the Yeah, man, come on, man,
So I'm saying, let's not start files that you don't
have to put out. You know, I came in the
game and said, these is burning shit down and I
gotta go visit the burn sites right, I'm watching fight

(15:47):
off of that and lose their life. I'm watching push
Dirk a certain way, push this game a certain way.
I'm watching them from the outside. I'm saying, man, they
knowing some dangerous shit, and it ain't dangerous if I
gotta walk into it, because let me Ma. Mama used
to tell me when I was young, you make that bed,
you gotta lay in it.

Speaker 1 (16:09):
The problem I have is you.

Speaker 2 (16:11):
Have individuals making other people's beds, and so my situation
today is more so geared a young boy, even aligning
him and bird Man. One of y'all supposed to get
home on line one, Yo, you might be the money up.

Speaker 1 (16:26):
Man.

Speaker 2 (16:27):
You got to shut up with all let talking say man,
you went and made all the videos mocking them. Then't
nobody from Atlanta say nothing? They letting him get his money.
It's his first tour, it's his first trip around the sun.
It's Rod Wade fifth year, this baby fourth year, this
Travis fifth, sixth year, this Drake tenth year. Been around

(16:50):
the sun with this shit, and so young boys in
a scenario to go make him some paper, respecting and
saluting that yo, go get your money. And then all
of a sudden, he go do a song because he
being loyal to his fans, if you ask me, because
if he don't do the song, the fans gonna say, man,
they're my favorite song.

Speaker 1 (17:09):
Why you ain't do it?

Speaker 2 (17:13):
But I don't actively hear no drama or hear no
pushing no lines. Ain't nobody pushing no lines? Look like
shit done, kind of died off. You gonna put on
the forefront that this man going around in somebody else
town taking shots at of list of rappers. Now somebody
can really instead explaining it to the DA, they can
say this is what's going on, watch this yeah, and

(17:35):
they can believe it coming from you as you are
one of the.

Speaker 1 (17:38):
People that these that next to.

Speaker 2 (17:42):
So they could think the energy that young boy's giving
is rolling off of your tongue.

Speaker 1 (17:49):
The shit you saying he responsible for.

Speaker 2 (17:51):
So when you gotta come out of you keep saying, boy,
he just walked down on the liner.

Speaker 1 (17:55):
He just done X, Y and Z.

Speaker 2 (17:57):
Man, you putting young in the situation to lose money. Yeah,
we gotta cancel that show, sir. We didn't know you
was doing this song. You know how many times Dirk
and them winning done that little song or don't slick
this songs in these arenas, but they don't make a big.

Speaker 1 (18:12):
Thing about it. It ain't a big deal.

Speaker 2 (18:15):
Ain't no running to the internet putting no context around
some shit that's just supposed to be about us in
this situation. Right, This shit got blood on it. This
shit got real blood on it. You got an internet
running to the internet. Yo, man, walk down. Pay attention
to what he said. I'm done talking. Pay attention to it,

(18:36):
and let me calm down. For they think I'm upset
because I feel marvelous. I got money, like everybody loved me.
I mean, I'm I'm I'm I'm batting a thousand lome boy,
I'm talking about I'm.

Speaker 1 (18:47):
Batting a whole hunter. I'm talking about. Hey, ain't no
hiccups in my get up.

Speaker 3 (18:53):
You and me.

Speaker 2 (18:54):
I'm batting a whole hunter. So let not get that confused. Right,
It is just me on the microphone. It's just how
I get down. The animation come out, the passion come out.
It's part of the game. It's part is that something
don't have let me beat me, right, So we're gonna
look at academics. This is what he's saying about, young boy,
as he's traveling to Atlanta.

Speaker 1 (19:16):
And he does a song in a arena, Pay attention.

Speaker 4 (19:19):
I just seen that. I've just seen the walk down
of a lifetime in Atlanta.

Speaker 1 (19:22):
Yo.

Speaker 4 (19:23):
And y'all gonna say I'm thinking sucking, but this is YO.
Listen with all due respects even and again I'm not
shitting on Kendrick.

Speaker 1 (19:28):
Trust me.

Speaker 4 (19:29):
This ship was bigger than not like us. For me,
ain't nobody get anybody get clat.

Speaker 1 (19:33):
Behind not like us.

Speaker 4 (19:34):
That's a fact, Like this is just Yeah, they called
Draco pedophile. Yeah alright, cool, cool, cool name calling. Bet
this was a walkdown. This is the biggest walkdown since
Gucci pulled up to making Georgia and perform the Truth.
That was Pooky Look's hometown, I think. And when everybody
said that not go there. Not granted, I know somebody

(19:57):
was be like, why you ain't doing to Chicago. Look
clearly was about to do the Chicago. Clearly, if he
could catch it in Chicago, he called it. He caught
it in Atlanta. What the what the whole thing happened?
I ain't gonna cap this is a walkdown. We gotta
keep it a hundred and I ain't gonna lie the

(20:17):
best thing I like about why be performing at this song?
There was a few allegedly that might have been teetering,
like YO could put him now? Dirt locked up, Dirk
locked up, even though when Dirt was free, we were
standing on Venis and it was like, y'all, we can't
fuck with him, but Dirt locked up, Like maybe we

(20:38):
could put him now. Slap yo. He slammed door shut
on that. Oh y'all, this call le.

Speaker 2 (20:45):
And so what you just watched was academics reacting to
NBA Young Boy doing I Hate Young Boy, which is
a this song probably one of his fans' favorite tune.
It's probably one of his fans' favorite songs. He got right,
So he go to of the town, he go down
to Atlanta, and he do the song. If you're asking me,
you put him in a bad spot because he gotta

(21:08):
be loyal to the fans and do the song again.
My conversation is always surrounding the business. It's gonna have
some business in it, it's gonna have some information. And
so as my conversation is wrapped around the business. My
question for bird Man, young Boy, anyone that's on their team,
what value add is that that he is stating next
to y'all screaming these kind of things. In my opinion,

(21:30):
we're dealing with the law of diminishing returns.

Speaker 1 (21:36):
You already to the point.

Speaker 2 (21:37):
Where people look at you like a little gangster, look
at you like it's gonna go look at you like
you solid.

Speaker 1 (21:43):
You done been through some things.

Speaker 2 (21:44):
You don't need no internet coming and painting these kind
of narratives while you're going through the town, scraping the
bag up. You supposed to come through Atlanta and got
you too mean for two days on the internet, capping
and talking this and that about ooh, he walked down
on respect for who. That's gonna make the people. Come on, man,

(22:06):
that's gonna make the people cancel the show. He did
respect them in their own town. Now you dealing with
the DA from this town. To know all of these raps,
I got hitters and smackers on their team. You inciting
shit on behalf of who to what means.

Speaker 1 (22:26):
What value?

Speaker 2 (22:27):
Add is that part of it may sound crazy because
I think that because you don't have a family, or
because you don't have children, or you don't have a
loving woman that been waiting on you to get in
from out of town and instead of coming right off
the jet, getting to the house and hopping on the
stream in my airport closed and masking it as I'm

(22:48):
a workaholic, masking it as I'm a workaholic. You won't
let things get calm because in the comm you gotta
deal with yourself. When there's no chaos, you gotta pay attention.
You look up fifteen yels, done past what out undone
made a lot of money, but I haven't made any

(23:08):
real connections. I believe somewhat deep down it's because it's
the lack of family that leads to some of this
kind of discourse, especially when you get into your thirties.
Like I just think you're in a situation where you
lacking something. And I say that respectfully, with all due respect,
but at some point you got to look into that
big house, or in this case, in that small house.

(23:31):
You got to look into that home and be by
yourself and say, damn, I'm sitting in a room fresh
off the airport saying that I want to see someone
that I call my friend. If I'm DJ academics and
young boy, I want to see my young boy go
to a city to perform with this and add to
an already lingering conversation surrounding his status in these arenas.

(23:53):
And this is his first time trying to already, this
is what I'm saying, bro, this is first time doing it.
A reason why they keep getting canseled and certain little
things are happening because they don't have no resume with him.
This is what people is feeling to realize. They don't
have no relationship with young boy. They just know he'll
sell this out. But this is first time coming through.

(24:14):
What kind of fans is coming out? What they selling
green ban donnas? You should have ain't gained now? They
representing Fok Trade, that's his record label, that's their thing.
They ain't got nothing to do with that. But the
conversations are being had since it's his first time on tour.
I believe DJ Academics is detrimental to the really going

(24:34):
to get that money on. I think that he's interfering
with the young going to get that money on. If
you asking me, it's because they coming out and saying,
oh my god, he dissing. He dissing everybody in their
own town. Young boy running around trying to get some
money and this is the problem they already trying to
pay him like an issue. Some of these people is

(24:56):
just canceling without even calls, just yo Wi doing yeah,
old fashion shit. He dealing with that on the business side.
He don't need no black of mouth fast knicks running
around talking this that. And the third, if you're asking
me some of the behavior of late for some of
these with pages and blogs and people that call theirself

(25:17):
cool with bird Man and young Boy, they done cost
them some money. They done cost them some real money
up and so my question to y'all is it worth it?
Is that worth it to y'all people who do not
know we're talking about NBA. Young Boy he was on tour.
He went to Atlanta Academics, came out and called it
a walk down and attagonized all the rapresent Atlanta and

(25:40):
he's like he's trying to strip Atlanta of some sort
of status that he believes and he knows that Atlanta has.
But it's like there's a weird energy surrounding his passionate
behavior to highlight some of these things. And for me,
you know, I look at it and I zoom out
and I say, well, maybe it's because because the young

(26:01):
fella doesn't have a wife for children, and so this
is his entertainment for real, and he's locked in. So
he's treating these rap dudes kind of like action figures
or some shit on the PlayStation on Xbox, some kind
of third world characters. But I try to give grace
to the young lads out there, right to the young
niggas out there that's hustling and doing their rap thing,

(26:22):
and they're trying to catch on fire. They're trying to
get some momentum going, because I understand they believe it's
value in being tied to someone with a big platform.
I have a big platform, so I understand it. But
that's a cost sheet. There is no free lunch. And
so the only reason I give as much grace as
I give is because I know what it's like trying

(26:43):
to find momentium in this game, especially coming from nothing,
coming from outside of this industry, and really trying to
find momentum in this industry.

Speaker 1 (26:52):
You'll go into some.

Speaker 2 (26:53):
Dog caves and you'll run over here and try to
get with these folks, and these folks to just try
to light your room up. And so in this part,
you heard me give a number of reasons that I
felt like had to do with NBA Young Boy's second
date in Atlanta being canceled, and right when we was
about to put that out, there was another video adding

(27:13):
some contexts to what is also going on when NBA
Young Boy in this tool.

Speaker 1 (27:18):
Pay attention, barricase and armored vehicles.

Speaker 5 (27:20):
Those are some of the extra security measures planned for
rapper NBA Young Boys concerts this weekend. Parker Boyd is
live at the Smoothie King Center, which police expect to
be packed.

Speaker 1 (27:32):
Well.

Speaker 6 (27:32):
John Meg NBA Young Boys set to perform here at
the Smoothie King Center on Sunday and Monday nights. Now
New Orleans police are expecting full crowds that seventeen thousand
people each night.

Speaker 1 (27:42):
Now.

Speaker 6 (27:43):
A law enforcement so tells Fox Say that one of
the rappers associates also plans to attend. That's rivals of
the rappers associates they planned to attend the concert as well.
A law enforcement source also says NBA Young Boys concert
tomorrow in Atlanta was canceled after members of his honorage
clashed with police poe at the vip entrance of the
State Farm Arena. The New Orleans Police Department says it's

(28:04):
been in contact with Atlanta Police about that incident. The
NPD plans to have four hundred officers on the streets
along with state police and federal agents. Deputy Superintendent Hans
Gantier says police will deploy armored vehicles, light towers and
drones and key parts of the French Quarter and the CBD.

Speaker 7 (28:21):
The intelligence we have for this particular concert from various
cities and various events that they've had in various police
departments and our federal partners, their Intel division, So I
think that gives us concern and it also lets us
know to be ready for that. So that is why
we have a robus more robust package for this.

Speaker 6 (28:44):
Ganteass most of the officers working this and hand security
will not be acquiring overtime. He also says the department
met with representatives from the Smoothe King Center and its manager,
ASM Global to discuss the concert. We reached out to
ASM Global, they did not comment reporting life from this
movie King Center at Parker Boy to Fox eight.

Speaker 1 (29:03):
Local first four hundred officers.

Speaker 2 (29:05):
And so the integrity stays on the side of our
content creation. We wanted to play that video so you
know that there's several things happening with young Boy behind
the scenes as it pertains to his tour. Number One,
he's in a situation where because they don't have any resume, right,
this is his first big tour like that, because again
I explained it in the other part of the podcast, that.

Speaker 1 (29:27):
He's been in trouble.

Speaker 2 (29:28):
He blew up real big and he got back in trouble,
so he wasn't able to really experience and go out
on tour, and so you're seeing an adverse reaction for
some of these counties and some of these arenas as
they try to like swat him down and figure out
what the vibe is with him. And for the most part,
he's had a very successful show. But that's a stigma

(29:50):
attached to such an authentic brand when it comes from
the inner city. And we'll get to why I got
you know, I have an issue with what Native Land
Podcast was doing because this sector and section of black
culture is still black people. We need not aband in
any sector of our people, right, So understanding that this

(30:14):
young nigga moving around and they got this stigma test
to his brand. Although a very productive, very lucrative the
brand makes a lot of money they got this stigma
test to it, acting like that it's beef impression, dish
is and rivals and all of this surrounding it. So
I beg the question, why the fuck with bird Man

(30:37):
or NBA Young Boy allow academics to run around and
get on stream and basically say, I hire the niggas
that NBA Young Boy went to Atlanta and performed the song.
If he was a responsible media person, he would explained
it something like how I seen it, which was Yo,

(30:59):
the young nigga gotta be loyal to his audience. So
when I come, I'm gonna perform the song. But I
ain't pushing no beef and I ain't pushing no trying
to step on niggas and shine on niggas.

Speaker 1 (31:09):
Man, I'm having my moment. I deserve this.

Speaker 2 (31:13):
I've been through hell, right, So you know niggas is
letting young boys shine. But my problem is it's twofold.
One is I don't want any young niggas thinking that
all momentum is good momentum. All momentum ain't worth it,
I'll say, because all momentum may move you forward, but
it you may can't control the direction. So it surprised

(31:36):
me that not young boy, not bird man. Nobody stepped
in to say, yo, that portrayal that you're doing on
us academics, that's bad for business. When you operating at
a national level, moving city to city, My nigga is
reckless to frame your art is violence. And at the
level that these young niggas is on the gangst aesthetic
might help you on the lower level, it might be

(31:57):
a mistique and give you extra points when you coming
from the streets, but at this stage right here, it
just destroys your leverage with these arenas. And we got
a dude who didn't travel to Atlanta. Ain't like he
in Atlanta saying Yo, I'm in Atlanta with him, nigga,
we doing these songs. He waved back in New York saying, boy,
he walked down, he took rap over. So you basically

(32:18):
telling you know what rap mean to some of these
young niggas, Niggas making hundreds of millions fucking with this shit,
and you basically putting his head on the swift of
saying he come and take rap by performing in Atlanta.
So what kind of reaction is you expecting from that?
I'm glad you didn't get one. But what I'm saying
is you can provoke a nigga saying, man, we gotta

(32:39):
defend the Atlanta nigga. This's the whole rap world, nigga.
This is hundreds of means. We gotta defending around here.
And put Bruh in the trick bag and put people
on his trail just because how you aligning his brand
with violence and all of these different things. That's detrimental
to wear them dudes trying to go these folks is
trying to make money, trying to make millions of dollars.

(33:01):
Allow these dudes to hustle without the interference from these
Internet niggas. Can I hustle without the interference from these
Internet niggas? Please, That's all we asking in twenty twenty six.
Can I hustle without the interference from these Internet niggas.
I'm just trying to move merchandise. I'm trying to get marketshall,

(33:23):
I'm trying to make Miggins, and I'm trying to call
Mayham when these niggas play with this hell man, and
so I think it's important that I let it be
known to Yo after you done been to jail.

Speaker 1 (33:34):
This is what confuses me.

Speaker 2 (33:38):
This is how I'm starting to think, young boy and
there ain't knowing that academics is running around with this
kind of reckless behavior online, because Yo, my nigga, ain't
no rep academics can give you niggas that the jail
didn't give you that coming from Louisiana didn't give you that.
Making it from your circumstances didn't give you all the
shit you already been through. Man, you don't need no

(34:00):
academics coming out saying gangster shit about your brand for
you to feel or know that you've been through it
and went through it. I think is irresponsible for him
to be a friend of NBA young Boy, knowing that
this is his first time in these arenas, for him
to be framing this like this is a violent man
moving around this in people and his rivals know that

(34:22):
he's in the city, performing this songs, reporting some inaccurate information,
and your positioning a scenario where you're saying that the
city gave a MCKI No. If you just listen, they say, YO,
were just trying to get in front of the children
and tell them stop gun violence, the same that they're
doing with thed Like they're trying to let these children know, Yo,

(34:44):
y'all turn y'all gangster down. Song, Yeah, turn your gangster
down song. Please turn your gangster down. And so if
you listen to him, that's what they said, that's why
they made he did that little speech about yo, I
don't really care for gun. I'm protected, but I don't
move around like that, right because these folks want to
get in communication with the children, and sometimes they got

(35:08):
to come in those kind of environments to get in
front of them children and say, y'all, please stop the violence.

Speaker 1 (35:14):
We know the audience members that's in here. Can y'all
hear me?

Speaker 2 (35:18):
Maybe if he said he said, salute the young boy
and salute the Doug for even doing some of that
in the public and letting those children know that we
got to move past handling every situation with a fire on.
Some people will say, yo, man, that ain't why Young
Boy's concert was shut down, and to that, I would

(35:39):
say that there's If you're asking me, there's a number
of reasons why some of these shows are being canceled.
I'm saying that academics being in the media and being
a quote unquote friend of Young Boy, how he's spinning
his brand back into the tornado. He just came out of.
That's what I'm saying. How in the fuck bird Man

(35:59):
or young Board, somebody on their team ain't hitting this
dude to say, yo, dexter boo lot man, stop going
online with all that. This, that, and the third you
you spinning us back into the tornado that we just
come up out. Uh we fineling now we finish, try
to eat coming about the tornado. You spinning us backwards.

(36:20):
Oh he dis is niggas, Oh he ain't your town dissing.
And then you bring up the conversation about dirt, Oh
the rap game switching on dirt. There ain't no evidence
out there that nobody switching on dirt. That is literally
zero evidence that some niggas is switching on dirt. Anybody
that was ryding with dirt, they with dirt right now.
Ain't no evidence of that. Matter of fact, the only

(36:41):
real evidence we have with niggas that switching on dirt
is academics. If were talking about in the industry, like,
there's a few niggas that may have said some things
or done some things that you like, yo, but this
is industry shit. Were talking about academics. The man who
had Dirt coming through the interview and the relationship with
him the entire time. You remember when young Boy was

(37:05):
this in academics.

Speaker 1 (37:07):
It's puss, says nigga. Demis egging like like you're a
fuck about numbers.

Speaker 8 (37:12):
Bitch, I just dropped two weeks ago. This puss a
nigga fin a drop, bitch.

Speaker 1 (37:19):
I know I ain't flyaing worry about no numbers.

Speaker 3 (37:21):
Nigga.

Speaker 8 (37:22):
Beach is nigga play litt bank, take lick bank. Your
stupid drunk face says, it's all you like to do.
Beach is get drunk and talk shit. That was gonna
get you fucked up niggas.

Speaker 2 (37:38):
Oh yeah, he was running up under OTF and dirt
like a motherfucker. But him and young Boy got their
relationship back, and now he's saying that the industry is
turning on Dirt. You even got people rap niggas responding
to it. Who y'all seeing turn on him? Y'all showed
me somebody that's turning on him publicly. Ain't nobody turning

(37:59):
on Dirk publicly that I'm seeing? And I'm watching the
same internet y'all watching, y'all tell me something I don't
know So y'all gonna police niggas likes. Now, you gonna
tell me liking the pictures turning on a nigga to
be happy about another nigga going to get his money,
or liking a song or something. Y'all telling me that's
turning on a nigga. See y'all playing them little boy

(38:22):
Larry games. Yeah, y'all playing little boy Larry Games. You
contribute to your own nothing doing, young nigga. The gangster
shit take you so far and then it holds you back.
Everybody know how this story goes, but still I play.
But now ever since academics pushing this line, we started
to see people biting into it. The only problem is

(38:44):
academics being on the forefront and pushing it, and he
the main one playing the fifty yard line. He the
main one that allowed to Cashi six' nine to shoot
At dirk About, von Disrespect dirk ABOUT vn on his,
platform and then turn around and have an interview With.
Dirk this is WHAT i didn't understand about that even

(39:06):
when it. Happened AND i Know dirk a little real with,
him but that was SOMETHING i never.

Speaker 1 (39:11):
Understood. Yo here is the they got The takashi up.
There what the was?

Speaker 2 (39:16):
THAT i think when it sad with, him then WHEN i, say,
oh the whole shit, fractioned this shit ain't. Nothing this
shit broke, down this whole, game this shit is watered
down because in my, era AND i say that, Respectfully
dirt going through. ENOUGH i don't even got no issue With,
DIRK i With, DIRT i With, twin you, UNDERSTAND i

(39:36):
with a couple of them on that. Side so it
ain't That i'm putting game, down and it's it's IMPORTANT
i putting information next to things THAT i. See But i'm,
saying ain't no where in the world if you let
That koshi sees name come up there and disrespect my
little Brother King.

Speaker 1 (39:53):
Vaughn like, that That i'm gonna do an interview with.
YOU i don't give a about this.

Speaker 2 (39:57):
Business and for what we've seen so, Far dirt seem
to be the kind of going all the way for
whatever he believed, in and he ain't doing no whole
bunch of. Complaining so What i'm saying, is if you're
gonna go that far for what you believe, in, MAN
i be wondering what he's saying that's doing this shit

(40:19):
we're an energy in this industry to be leading the
charge and be the first person that ever broke the.

Speaker 1 (40:27):
Rule it's.

Speaker 2 (40:27):
Crazy you the man that Had dirk on your. Shit
you the man allowed to cast you to do what he,
done Disrespect dirk in the way that he. Did right
you and young boy he said fuck, You but you
and him? Cool that what that don't make you, Nothing
that don't make you up a, Hypocrite that don't make
you dick Riding and see this is WHY i don't

(40:49):
understand why Bird man ain't pulled him to the, side
being a big. Homie why young boy somebody on their
team ain't pulled him to the. SIDE i always tell,
people you gotta pay attention to what's, cooking of it to,
burn and sometimes that burning or burning the house. Down
you gotta pay attention to what's. Cooking if a noise
running around and sometimes he being seen next to, you

(41:11):
but when he run over, there he's, saying, wow, shit
some gotta get put under, control say. Bro he trying
to pick up as much money as. Possible please do
not start no. Problems don't wrap us around and pigeonhole
our brand and make it look like we running through these,
cities this and the looking for issues and. Drama we
coming to see our. Fans we comeing to hug our

(41:33):
loved ones in those. Towns we come in to interact
with the people that enjoy our. Music sell some, merch
eat some good, food deal with the, people grab some grass.
Whatever it might, be little, things but we ain't looking
for no. Drama and it feels like. It and you
can change the atmosphere of what we're standing for and
the gold we headed. Towards you can kind of take

(41:54):
us off a track when you online and you saying
certain things.

Speaker 1 (41:58):
Like he walked, down he did, this that and the.
Third let's listen to a little.

Speaker 4 (42:04):
More but, obviously like, me you know WHAT i, MEAN
i love vulgar, shit so like SHIT i. DON'T i
like when you this. ONE i, yo my mind is
a Little this is why even like you, know you,
know that's WHY i could never rock with the lawsuit.
Shit AND i love shit like. THAT i like when
you this, nigga that, grandma that.

Speaker 1 (42:20):
Dog.

Speaker 4 (42:21):
Shit if if it's baby mama got an, abortion, Miscarriage i'm,
sorry that's WHAT i. LIKE i grew up on. LISTEN
i listened to all These, chicago like there's no there's
no living on. It i'm, sorry but so not like.
Us it's probably gonna be like the. Greatest you. Know
you gotta respect him for keeping it. Real that's what he's.
On you know What i'm. Saying his vibe is. YO

(42:43):
i like to see them crash. OUT i like that
type of.

Speaker 2 (42:46):
Vibration AND i don't have no children or no wife
at this, age So i'm just sitting around in the
house thinking about googling. Shit, Yeah i'm A google. Machine you.
Did you know What i'm. Saying if If i'm See
that's Why i'm trying to. Say and this is why
it's important for media to be locked in.

Speaker 7 (43:04):
With you.

Speaker 2 (43:05):
Know i'm Glad i'm locked in with you know the
Guys i'm locked in with and some of the real
and the. COACH i look forward to locking in and
and with a couple of. Right but at the end
of the, day, man when you talk about providing clarity
around something that has no, context it's a very short
list of people that you can Get they can get

(43:27):
that done and have the credibility and have the platform
to be able to do. That academics has a huge.
PLATFORM i just don't like the fact that he continues
to keep starting these files and maybe he don't understand
how to. Fix maybe in his twisted mind or his drunk,
thoughts he believes that he's helping young boy by painting

(43:48):
him as a gangster this far in his. Career everybody
know the look, gangster, Right niggas look at the little
like a gangst. Already academics can't really help that the
BOY i been to the faz that has, shit having
his blood on his.

Speaker 1 (44:02):
Money it's certain.

Speaker 2 (44:03):
Things that doesn't went down, right and all the little
real all the little, youngsters they kind of respect his.
Vibration so don't nobody question that at this. Point that's
WHAT i tell. People being a real get you so
far and then it work against. You at this, point
you screaming at real shit on behalf of a young's
moving like him and been through what he'd been. Through

(44:25):
it don't do nothing but hurt. Him that shit ain't helping.
Him for an academics to get off the plane in
his airport, closed to walk in his house and have
an hour long conversation ABOUT nba young boy doing a,
dish how he did it in another city and got a.

Speaker 1 (44:43):
Key to the.

Speaker 2 (44:43):
City the key to the city part was. Wrong the
narrative he wrapped Around Young boy's brand was. Irresponsible in.
Negative If i'm Young, Boy i'm hot about, that, yo
fam don't do. That we ain't talking like. That we
got a chance to make fifty six point two. Million
if we get every dollar from this, walker and we

(45:05):
expect to make fifty six point two, million we really
gonna make some mold because every city wind were trying
to see what the vibration is on the after. Parties
but at the end of the, day there's a situation
Where i'm, Saying, yo somebody tell this young shut the
fuck up. Man whether the response or, NOT i think

(45:25):
it's important for me to just put that in the.
Universe how important that. Is you, know it's rougher for
me than it is for other. People and let me
clarify all of this street thing they put next to.
ME i would appreciate a little respect on my name
as it pertains to my intellectual. CURIOSITY i would expect

(45:47):
a little bit more respect put on my, name and
then for y'all to marginalize me Like i'm some street.
CHARACTER i have a specific set of skills young love.
Specific i'm talking very, specific and With god's, Grace i'll
be able to implement certain.

Speaker 1 (46:07):
Things and WHEN i get to a b and there
will be.

Speaker 2 (46:10):
Indicators and you KNOW i said on the last, episode
academics is welcome to us up there. Podcast i'll do
it even. Better we can Do it's up there podcast in.
Person every rapper you've, mentioned they'll be in the. Building
there will be no, violence to just be a conversation
one on. One we'll see what they look. Like you

(46:30):
know What i'm. SAYING i think that it's about time
for some of those words to collide in a way
where some of these ideas be put to rest and be,
challenged at least at bare, minimum we challenge some of
these ideas because if you're asking, ME i just think
things are getting far too messy and out of, hand
and those things are going unchallenged for the most, part

(46:53):
when like for, instance like for, now for What i've
been talking about for the last about forty eight, minutes
if you're asking, me there's malicious. BEHAVIOR i think the
money in the fame has made academics extremely, huborous and
not only, ACADEMICS i think the market drives off, entertainment which,
Again i'm in this, tool SO i know. IT i,

(47:13):
KNOW i know, it don't. KNOW i just hope it's
not sounding LIKE i don't know it Because.

Speaker 1 (47:17):
I'm in this.

Speaker 2 (47:18):
Tool So i'm not absent when we at the party
talking about what's next for. Content i'm prisent in those.
Parties BUT i know these people to be real, people
and so some of the agendas attached to some of
the narratives just placed out to the. Public if you're asking,
me the perspective needs to be. Intercepted people need to be,

(47:40):
notified put on. Notice people need to be. Right you
need to lead them in the right direction to, say,
hey hold, on think about. It like, This academics is
telling y'all that rappers can't be cool with Young boy
because young boy dished, them but Young boy dished him
and they super. Cool also bringing up the fact that

(48:02):
he's performing in this song in, arenas Like dirk didn't
perform that song he had in. Arenas it's now growing
legs and you got his family and people responding to
all of this Because academics is obsessed with a couple
of rappers that he mentions no matter what he finds

(48:22):
a way to mention certain rappers that there's an obsession
he has with those. Rappers so, again the deal is
on the. Table academics come to us up. There podcast
will have a room full of the rappers that he's obsessed.

Speaker 1 (48:37):
With that's my. Word they'll be. There there will be no.

Speaker 2 (48:41):
Issue it'll be a live taping with a room full
of rappers That academics is obsessed, with and we'll have
a conversation and challenge some of these narratives and see
how far we. Get as it pertains to. That let
me explain something to, you. Man at, FIRST i wouldn't
have a conversation BECAUSE i understood, that you, know the
coms isn't necessarily. Needed it's just an. Idea it's not that.

(49:03):
Serious it's not something that we're banking. On BECAUSE i,
understand the bird and the fish can't make a. Deal
the bird and the fish can't make a. Deal you
THINK i don't know shit from, Sugar AND i made
it this. Far AND i was taught to leave him
in error if he in love with his, Errors and
so that's why a lot of TIMES i just was, like,
yo let let him run with that. Shit you just

(49:25):
keep putting down what you putting. Down BUT i think
it's time for those worlds to. Collide twenty twenty. Six
at the bare, minimum those worlds need to. Collide let's
talk about this and then we'll get out of. HERE
i don't plan on stand. Long Mark Lamont hell And
Queen's flip had a back and forth on The Joe
button podcast in which it's spun out of, control and

(49:45):
these two gentlemen had what was looked at like a
fight from the outsiders and the people who are not
kind of in tune with what happens in that niche of.
Podcasting BUT i want you to pay attention to this
video and then we'll come back with some.

Speaker 1 (49:58):
Commentary take a.

Speaker 3 (50:00):
Look people will hear that THINK i do, that, WELL
i don't.

Speaker 1 (50:02):
KNOW i thank you because.

Speaker 9 (50:04):
Don't want people Becau people will hear that THINK i do, that,
WELL i don't know if you do. It but you
have any REASON i THINK i do?

Speaker 3 (50:08):
THAT i don't.

Speaker 9 (50:09):
Know do you have any reason to THINK i do?
THAT i said because you just said. That you said
you you're cracking a joke With. Joe listen to What
i'm trying to tell.

Speaker 3 (50:18):
You go, ahead go, ahead, listen is What i'm trying
to tell. YOU i think that people need to see this.

Speaker 10 (50:21):
Show, hey you guess, what it's going.

Speaker 3 (50:25):
Out it's going.

Speaker 5 (50:25):
OUT i just want to care about what people shouldn't
see and shut up and don't say this is going.
On i'm comfortable with Everything i'm. Saying here's going.

Speaker 10 (50:35):
RIGHT i love, You, FLIP i love you as a
matter of franks next to it ups the tracking as
a matter of. Fact you, KNOW i don't because whatever
whatever you ever told, me you, KNOW i ain't never
come out and whatever ever happened and our WITNESS i
never said About.

Speaker 9 (50:54):
I'm not gonna say it because What i'm gonna saying
can't nobody out here say?

Speaker 3 (50:59):
No but you? Secret you kept your? Secret what secrets?

Speaker 1 (51:03):
Is we know your?

Speaker 3 (51:04):
SECRET i tell You i'm not Gonna i'm.

Speaker 9 (51:06):
Not i'm not even gonna allude to it at. Lawyer
that's not loyal that that ship you do this lawyer
gonna you up in front of you just talking.

Speaker 5 (51:15):
About to be clear from the, ones an't nothing, personal
if any of my personal. LIFE i don't make it
sound like that BECAUSE i don't people to think about
anything THAT i tell you.

Speaker 3 (51:23):
Niggas ain't that that.

Speaker 9 (51:23):
HAPPENED i can talk about. It it's for you to talk
about so anything That i'm. Saying so if you allude
to it because you said a lot of tricky, words
NO i.

Speaker 3 (51:32):
DON'T i say regular. Words that's tricky to. You tricky.

Speaker 9 (51:34):
Words that that's another thing you, do, right my, Nigga
you said you got all the busiest man in the.
World you spend a thousand hours trying to communicate and
speak to people to be. Accepted beid that this community
that this nigga built through the, COMMUNITY.

Speaker 3 (51:46):
I don't need to do with our. TIME i believe
in myself.

Speaker 9 (51:49):
Job our job is to come up here and work
and show up and put our best foot. Forward that's
WHAT i. Do plus do other ship behind the. Scenes
you MEAN i don't to show try to win. Favor
you try to win. Favoring you mean like favor you're in.
Here to, me you try to win famous with the
fan if you do with the fans there even if
you do win, famous you try to point out everything

(52:10):
else that nobody. Do that's sucking ship to? Me when
DO i do? That you try to put? Second don't
want me a don't call me a, scond but don't
call me a circon. Though but that's don't call me
a sucking no more That i'm not.

Speaker 2 (52:21):
Calling, hey this pol was particularly funny to. Me right,
See Mark, lamont he is shaking his. Head don't call
me a shucker no. More don't call me a sucker no. More,
yeah don't call me your sock or no. More he
was shaking his. HEAD i, said, man that nigga here
on some roddy roddy pipe and. Ship look at when
DO i do?

Speaker 3 (52:41):
That you try to put a?

Speaker 9 (52:42):
Second, no don't want me a don't call me a,
circond but don't call me a circle. Though but that's
don't call me a sucking no. More That's i'm not coming.

Speaker 6 (52:49):
Up take.

Speaker 3 (52:50):
That i'm not Calling i'm saying that's sucking.

Speaker 1 (52:52):
Ship you're not a.

Speaker 3 (52:53):
Second And i'm telling.

Speaker 9 (52:53):
You you say that sucond, Ship i'm taking like you say
that to.

Speaker 3 (52:55):
Me So i'm saying What i'm.

Speaker 9 (52:56):
Saying, listeners, listen let's both calm.

Speaker 3 (53:00):
Down that Now i'm saying that's.

Speaker 9 (53:02):
Both let's both calm down Because i'm telling you right,
now the way you're talking to, Me i'm taking a different.
Way so let's both. Know i'm, saying talk like, brother say.
That you don't want to say. That i'm saying because
you ain't gonna say that. Ship So i'm saying.

Speaker 3 (53:15):
Seven BUT i said the behavior and then we good
ship to? Me then then were? Good then we. Good
now let's get back to the. Show but that's What
why are you saying?

Speaker 9 (53:21):
That because when you say that second ship THAT i,
take that is disrespectful, too AND i take that to
me like that to.

Speaker 3 (53:26):
Me So i'm trying to tell, you but.

Speaker 9 (53:27):
It's a lot of. Ship you say the nigga that
we take disrespectful before that, SAID i take this to tell.

Speaker 3 (53:32):
Me i'm not gonna talk about it all air Because
i'm not. Sure i'm. Afraid so at the end of the,
Day i'm not sure what you're.

Speaker 9 (53:37):
Doing i'm not gonna Might i'm not.

Speaker 1 (53:42):
Trying i'm not hotting.

Speaker 9 (53:43):
That i'm not potting nigga nigga saying, nigga do what
are we talking?

Speaker 3 (53:51):
To? God we can, pie then let's talk.

Speaker 5 (53:55):
OUTSIDE i Tell Mark, man, no fuck, That mark And
flip it's not.

Speaker 3 (54:14):
They can talk. Outside they can.

Speaker 2 (54:17):
Talk so this was an encounter Between Mark Lamont hill
And queen's. Flip for those who were not able to watch,
it that was the quote unquote fight that was had on.

Speaker 1 (54:28):
Set.

Speaker 2 (54:29):
Uh there was a couple of different THINGS i want
to point out and brank some context setting around What
i've seen take. PLACE i saw wink come From Mark Lamont.
Hill that was number. ONE i think it's started in
content land and it might have spun out and got
into some personal areas and then blew. UP i also
noticed a few red lines that were. Crossed right when you,

(54:49):
say don't call me a sucker, again and somebody calls
you a, sucker you don't just say f. You it's
like IF i tell you a command like, this ain't a.
Question IF i say, yo don't say nothing else to
me and you say something else to. Me usually for
someone that was provoking, violence that was their opportunity and
their window to get it. Done and SO i just

(55:10):
point that out to SAY i believe that it started
in content world and it just spun out of. Control
Mark Lamont hill being an intellectual up there on The
Joe button, PODCAST i think this is what a conversation.
Lies that there's this notion that comes from some other
people that is in podcast, world that's in, media that's
in black, culture and there's a lot of, them not

(55:33):
just this part that we're about to look at With Angela.
Rieh salute to everyone on that part of the native.
Part there's a sea of people that Believe Mark Lamont
hill should not be on The Joe Button. Podcast he's above.
That The Joe Button podcast is very low, level bush
league entertainment kind of. Shit, Like i'm gonna be completely
honest with, Y'ALL i didn't know people looked at it like.

(55:55):
That i'm in some intellectual circles and, sometimes you, Know
i'll even bring the podcast up sometimes and. Nobody i've
never bumped into anyone that watches, it And i'm gonna say,
that BUT i know a lot of people watch, it
and that's how big the world. Is you may never
bump into one of my, fans but people are one
hundred percent watching the. Show BUT i never knew that

(56:18):
people viewed The Joe Buddon podcast outside of like the
hip hop of the. WORLD i never knew they looked
at it with such a stench and such a red, eye, like,
uh that shit over, There why Is mark even up?

Speaker 1 (56:31):
There?

Speaker 2 (56:32):
NOW i think if we start back to have That
Joe budden And charlemagne. Conversation this is What charlomagne has
a lot more respecting points in this world over, here,
Right because they look At charlemagne and they, say let's
have the. Conversation they look At joe and it's, like
why Is mark even next to. Them let's take a
look at this video from The Native Pard we're not

(56:52):
gonna play the entire. Podcast please go watch this show
if you're listening to. This if you're looking at this,
video they have a podcast that it's under iHeart as.
Well they responded To mark Lamont, hill which is a
friend of the, show to a lot of these women
and these guys that are on this. Show they responded
to him getting into it With queen's flip on The

(57:14):
Joe budden. Podcast let's take a look at what they
said on The Native land. Podcast pay.

Speaker 1 (57:18):
ATTENTION i Thought.

Speaker 11 (57:20):
Mark Lamont hill handled himself so incredibly, well sitting across
from a full blown temper tantrum from a grown. Man
there seems to be the death of black, intellectualism particularly
when it comes to who has a microphone and viral
clips like this take up so much space to. Me
it was clear that his co host felt, small and you,

(57:45):
know even him saying you use tricky, words And mark
responding WITH i use words that are tricky to, you.

Speaker 3 (57:51):
Not about like it Wasn't, mark he didn't do.

Speaker 11 (57:53):
Anything and if someone is so small that you can't
articulate your point without throwing a temper tantrum or in
resulting another, Person i'm happy That mark showed both tides that,
Yes i'm an, intellectual but don't give up in this,
studio you, Know AND i think it's important for people
to see that, yes you can still be an intellectual

(58:14):
and demand your. Respect that doesn't make you. Soft i'm concerned,
though in our community because when you look at the
just the plain, data you can take my perspectives out of,
it there seems to be an. EROSION i don't consider
myself a member of the black intellectual. Class we're in
a space we're telling people it's a time for reading

(58:34):
books is considered, elitist and it's just frustrating to. Me
AND i have to, Say i'm sure we'll disagree, here
or maybe we won't, disagree BUT i hope there are
different perspectives than. Mine BECAUSE i have to SAY i
am one of those. PEOPLE i do not respect everybody's
opinion the more like just because you have a, MICROPHONE

(58:55):
i don't always respect your. Opinion this guy who's, TALKING
i don't respect his. OPINION I, andrew we. Talked i'm Not,
MARY i don't have. Children If i'm giving you advice on,
either it's totally fine for you to, say what are
you basing this? On where did you get that information?
From And i'm not going to be offended by you
asking me, that because even IF i might be, right
you don't have to respect my. OPINION i don't respect

(59:16):
everybody's opinion on. Politics you might be right on, OCCASION
i don't respect your. Opinion SO i just think in
this environment of these viral, Clips i'm curious y'all take
on all of this BECAUSE i don't want to make
it just About. Mark But mark is there because people
turn their back on. Him mark should not be on this.
Podcast he gets the opportunity to talk to. People But
mark should still be AT. Cnn if you ask my,

(59:38):
Opinion mark should have had a contract soon as ceing
this every letting you. Go somebody should have Snatched mark
up and said. That AND i just think they put
dumb people ON tv sometimes just because you have more
likes than, followers and they don't celebrate our. Intellectualism SO
i leave it.

Speaker 3 (59:54):
There i'd love to hear y'all.

Speaker 12 (59:56):
THOUGHTS i Heard tiff at the outset say that she
he thought That mark handled himself well in the, exchange
AND i can't tell you all how MUCH i cringe
looking at that. EXCHANGE i have been in, conversation in

(01:00:17):
relationship with people that take you completely off of your
square and who you, are who you have evolved out.
Of AND i, think for, me what's, frustrating and this
is something THAT i would tell our friend as, well
IS i never want anybody to take take any of
us off of our, square but particularly not. Him he

(01:00:39):
just has so much to the world, now that's so
much to add to the. World, Now i'll say the
first to call myself sophistic ratchet all day, Long all day,
LONG i believe in you, know both, sides like you
might depending on the mood you might if you If
i'm feeling.

Speaker 1 (01:00:54):
FROGGY i might.

Speaker 12 (01:00:55):
Leap but WHAT i don't like IS i know firsthand
that the founder Of Uncle bobby's that's striving to ensure
that black folks can read in a neighborhood that he,
loves And, philly the same person that's creating black jobs
and providing opportunity for our folks doesn't want to show
up that way for, himself for his, family first, kids for.

(01:01:17):
Anybody and so WHAT i really want to ask us
to consider is how do we resolve conflict when things
are heated without name, calling without attacking someone's intellect or lack.
THEREOF i think that we can lovingly challenge people to
rise up without calling them them or anti. Intellectual, sure

(01:01:40):
it's that is where we, are but is there another
way to call people IN i don't think That mark
should be left holding the bag in this. EXCHANGE i
take great issue with that podcast and it's treatment Of,
mark AND i was wondering when when he was gonna
when he was gonna. Snap you, know there's another clip
THAT i don't know if you all, saw Where mark

(01:02:03):
announces very vulnerably that he's lost almost all of his
colleagues that were reporting In, gaza and by, LOST i
mean they are, killed they were they they died in
their reporting and trying to be courageous for their very
vulnerably he's lost all his. People And Joe buden's transition
not this other. GUY i don't know the everybody's, name

(01:02:24):
but not this other. Guy Joe budden's transition is like
and young, thug like just no mention of like are you?

Speaker 1 (01:02:31):
Okay how do you?

Speaker 3 (01:02:32):
Feel who was lost this?

Speaker 1 (01:02:34):
Week how did they?

Speaker 4 (01:02:35):
Die just like just like.

Speaker 12 (01:02:36):
Nothing so two tips point around. Curiosity if you can't find,
curiosity find. Sympathy if you can't find, sympathy find. Empathy
if you can't find, empathy find. Compassion we say on this,
show welcome, home and we mean, that of, Course mark
is welcome. ANYTIME i don't know about the rest of,
them BUT i will just, say you, KNOW i don't

(01:02:57):
think that that means that we should be foreclosed to
having discussions that are tough or where we don't think
people are peers or we're on the same.

Speaker 2 (01:03:05):
Level so you Hear angela basically, saying, yo we can have.
Conversation she's not neglecting the fact that conversations need to
be head across all fields and we need to cover all.
Holes and SO i think that's one of the things
that maybe needs to be looked at a little. Deeper is, That,
yo we can't divide each other in a way where
we won't even speak with one. Another the young lady

(01:03:29):
Before angela salute The. ANGELA i love what she. Does
the young lady before her spoke to we Failed mark
Lamont hill and he ended up On Joe budden podcast
because we failed.

Speaker 3 (01:03:40):
It.

Speaker 2 (01:03:40):
Man she's speaking as a culture like he ended up
being a trash man or something like he ended up
being over there working at the Graveyard shield was something.
Like the way that they framed it was so alarm
in the me and not even they let me not say.
THEY i want to be politically. Correct angela rad says
she's had great issue with that, show and the other
young lady straight up just, say, yo he should not be.

(01:04:02):
THERE i try to put myself in that scenario and ask,
myself all, right If I'm, ANGELA Rai mark La montheel
is my. Friend and the only two clips of this
Podcast i've seen is the one where he completely ignored
him losing his, colleagues and maybe this, one and IF
i have no other footprint, UP i have no other
understanding about what goes on in The Joe budden, podcast

(01:04:24):
then MAYBE i can see how they have such vitry
off For joe and what they believe him to be.
Doing To Mark lamntheel as it pertains to his brand
and what he's built up over the last twenty. Years,
Right he's been a name over the last twenty years
of very trusted source for black people as it pertains
to most. Topics AND i say, that you, KNOW i
say that coming from The, south and he's not even

(01:04:46):
from The. South he doesn't even speak on The south.
Much but you, Know mark la monthel is a name
that has been held in high. Regard BUT i also
want to be clear on the other side of that,
coin you have A Mark lamontheel that the EPISODES i
have called of The Joe Budden podcast BECAUSE i don't
watch every, WEEK i don't watch all the, time but

(01:05:07):
the ones THAT i have, called in particular this last,
ONE i noticed That mark Lamont hill and not even
in just this last, one But Mark Lamont hill is
leading a lot of these. Topics he's the person that's
positioning a lot of these narratives and having a lot
of these conversations in particular about relationships and infidelity and divorced,

(01:05:28):
settlements and you, know things that are non traditional for
what these intellectual people speak, about AND i think that
needs to be highlighted as. Well and also not looking
down on. RIGHT i think we can have conversations on
both sides of the. Spectrum damn this, simultaneously not on

(01:05:49):
the same, mics but at the same time in different,
areas and we should be able to cross collaborate and
cross promote some of those. THINGS i, mean it was
a reason Why Elon mussel come and sit With. Thevonne Donald,
trump the president of The United, states that comes sit
with the ovonn and he ain't speaking. Intellectual he has
an audience of people who understands his. Language and so

(01:06:12):
IF i have to dumb it down to reach my,
people that's What i'll. DO i need to understand what
makes black people in certain sectors of this content world
believe that they're more influential than the entire political, movement because,
again the presidents come and sit down with people who
wouldn't necessarily ace the bar exam or get a PERFECT sat.

(01:06:34):
Score but at the end of the, day some of
these people are. Effective AND i think if we're all
black people and we all care about black, People i'm not,
sure we need to have that level of why Is
mark even, now because, again some of my content lives
in that, niche and SO i have to be careful
about how they framed that.

Speaker 1 (01:06:52):
NICHE i never.

Speaker 2 (01:06:53):
Knew they looked at this niche that some of our
content lives in this. Way and of COURSE i don't
put myself where they are BECAUSE i don't do the degenerate, shit.
RIGHT i have conversations for the most, part but at
the end of the, DAY i think that it's a
very slippery slope that were when black people start to
devalue black, PEOPLE i think we're entered into a dangerous.

(01:07:16):
Place and ALSO i Seen Mark Lamont hill try to
defend what they said About joe and this platform on
The Joe butten. Podcast let's take a look at a
little bit of that. Clip paying.

Speaker 1 (01:07:27):
Attention i'm glad they said a. Lot they said a.

Speaker 5 (01:07:29):
Lot i'm preciate if those, Brothers, ANGELA i accept your non.
Invitation If i'm somewhere and you, There i'm.

Speaker 1 (01:07:32):
Leaving. No i'm a fan Of angela R. T i
Think i'm gotta heard Times i'm a fan Of Angela.
RYE i just think that in our community there's unity and.

Speaker 5 (01:07:39):
Community i'm not not a fan of, her but once
we get to our all black, clove we could identify
where we, had who's our driving Who i'm.

Speaker 1 (01:07:46):
NOT i don't.

Speaker 5 (01:07:48):
Let me love black, people AND i think they all
care about all of us up. HERE i do sound like.
THAT i Know i'm, mean SO i think, first in
terms of the title of the, EPISODE i, AGREE i
wouldn't title it that BECAUSE i think that doesn't set
the table for the kind of conversation we want to
have aliens before the.

Speaker 1 (01:08:01):
BEGINNING i agree with.

Speaker 3 (01:08:02):
THAT i think it is a different.

Speaker 5 (01:08:03):
One it just appears a little like. You they like
you are their, friend, right so they invested in a
you and flip back and forth AND i guess you'r
are on this, podcast but he's behind the.

Speaker 1 (01:08:15):
People it wasn't made, like why IS i even attached
to what evidence?

Speaker 3 (01:08:17):
Is?

Speaker 1 (01:08:17):
One and?

Speaker 5 (01:08:18):
Two why would you want to cast that type of?
Light because also they showed that other clip where you
are where you were saying invest in peace to your,
friends to your friends long and we handled it very.
POORLY i admit we handle. THAT i NOT i handled
that very. Poorly but, again don't tell me that you
are pro black and then want to highlight the very
very very worst of the best black podcast that there.
Is i'm just not buying the words and actually need to.
Align it's not trust trust your. Friends, yeah it is
a, DIFFERENT i, mean a dear, different and she cares about,

(01:08:39):
me and SO i think we're going to be passionate
in defense of my, friends and that might become the top.

Speaker 1 (01:08:44):
Priority SO i.

Speaker 5 (01:08:45):
DO i do understand that and intifinity all of them
friends and as a close friend fuck. Out SO i
think that's part of it as. WELL i heard their
comments a little more Knew ice than. That WHAT i
Heard tiffany say was when she was pushed on it
Was i'm not saying people shouldn't be everywhere Can she just,
said that's not my. MINISTRY i don't want to be
in those. SPACES i think everybody recognizes that those that
we have to be in all this. Space we shouldn't
just be in. Academy we should't be on mainstream legacy.

(01:09:06):
Medium we SHOULD i don't think they're SAYING i shouldn't be.
HERE i think they SAYING i shouldn't be here if
it's not. Healthy you later really, no me FISH i
shouldn't here at. Heat Dam, Me i'm not going to
let you line what you. Said i'm simply said you
should not be, here Right. Bati that's not mean. Freestyle
i'm win, you but just if to say That flip
shouldn't be hurt and that's.

Speaker 1 (01:09:19):
You heere What i'm.

Speaker 5 (01:09:19):
Saying there was a push, back and But i'm, saying
by the end of the, CONVERSATION i think what they
were trying to say that there wasn't. Communicated, WELL i
agree with you WAS i shouldn't be here if it's
not safe or healthy or. PRODUCTIVE i think the problem
is if you don't watch the show fully you from the,
clips you might think, that but you want to show
you realize that it's. Not and that's WHAT i think
we have To we have to watch more study one
That YAIN i think pe of that just put the
being protective of of your. FRIENDS i agree that some
spaces aren't worth being. IN i agree with that whole,
hardly as DO. I, YEAH i don't think it's one of,

(01:09:39):
them as DO. I but BUT i do think that
there are, spaces AND i think that's the point they're.
MAKING i just disagree with the now isis that this
is one of those. Spaces that's that's ALL i want to.
Say and, FINALLY i agree with one hundred percent of
the last. Point and this is not about The native,
lampid but it's about all these. Places is a lot
of people who say to, me why are you up?
THERE i give the two.

Speaker 1 (01:09:54):
REASONS.

Speaker 5 (01:09:54):
R one IS i actually think this is a healthy
and good three reasons WHY i enjoy it. TOO i
think it's a healthy and good environment for me to
have these. Conversations i'm talking to people and in convers
before time of the. Audience and the third like up
to your, point LIKE i gots ever seeing it in
twenty and.

Speaker 1 (01:10:04):
Eighteen it's only.

Speaker 2 (01:10:09):
As much AS i Like Mark Lamont, heels a part
of me believes that he believes that he's better than
being up. THERE i, mean it should be one flat out.
Yo these are black, People like we're all black people
at the end of the. Day and that's WHY i
appreciate any of the intellectuals when we have conversation and

(01:10:31):
things of that, nature is Because i'm always telling, them,
like let's not shut the door on the rest of
our little. Brothers we have a long way to. Go
we got a lot of work to. Do you, know
sometimes when you a scholar, man you will talk your
way into some things and believe you can talk your
way out of some, things and sometimes you're just digging
a deeper. Hole if it was me AND i markling my,
HEEL i can't wrap my mind around while somebody will

(01:10:54):
say he shouldn't be up. There there's no way for
me to even have that. Conversation and, again and it's
the way they framed, it saying that we failed markla my,
heel like why is he even up? There it's like
that was mind blowing to me because USUALLY i don't
speak about these, things BUT i had to come and
say something about that BECAUSE i just think that's that's nonproductive.

(01:11:17):
BEHAVIOR i think we have an opportunity to work together
the influence that the entire market. Possesses if we work,
together we can make, monumental actionable. Changes and if we
continue to marginalize each other and, Say, yo they're too
dumb to sit at this table or they're too geeked
out to sit at the cool, table we do all

(01:11:38):
of the culture of this. Service and SO i just
wanted to make that. Clear, well Markle my. Heel you
shouldn't have responded to, this. Bro you should have just
let them do whatever they were. DOING i don't have
no conversation for, it you, know because what will happen
is when it's all said and, Done these are the
moments they're gonna look back on and they're gonna, say you,
See mark was never all. In you see how you defended,

(01:11:59):
Them you see how he said this and said. That
because Maybe mark believes he should be somewhere ELSE cnn,
still you, know maybe if someone really has a conversation
With mark and ask him a straight, question do you
believe you should still be AT? CNN i believe the
answer to that question is, yes he thinks he should
still be in mainstream. Media but he ended up on

(01:12:21):
a podcast With. Joe butten people do not respect. That
all of the scholars seem to have little respect For Joe.
Budden And i'm telling, YOU i didn't know this was
to be the. Case and so IF i can say
anything to The native Lamd, PARD i would just, say you,
know the inner city is part of the city as,
well and you know we cannot continue to leave parts

(01:12:43):
of the black story. Behind you, know there's no sense
in letting strangers at the, cookout because, see that's the
thing THAT i see happened a lot of. Times i've
seen us open the. Doors and see if you're asking
somebody like me on this side of the, culture BECAUSE
i operate in both. Lines BUT i also understand that
we cannot afford to just abandon any corner of the black.

(01:13:05):
Experience we just don't have the luxury to abandon any
part of the black. Experience and, Also i'll say this
to some black. People i've seen us open the doors
for white people that make it dance or do the
stink it leg before we'll pull a chair for our
brothers from the inner. City some of y'all won't have

(01:13:27):
street niggas at the banquet or at the. Cookout you
know that word they use On. Twitter, yeah he's invited
to the cookout because he got a, fade he got
a certain.

Speaker 1 (01:13:38):
Haircut now they invite him to the.

Speaker 2 (01:13:39):
Cookout but ask, them intellectual people that's having that, cookout
is there any room for your black cousin from the
inner city that's not Jay. Z, now if it's JAY,
z please bring him.

Speaker 1 (01:13:49):
In we'll ask some questions all.

Speaker 2 (01:13:51):
Night we infatuated but in real, time there is no
one looking out for the inner city. Kids AND i
think we have a commonsation to have. There but we
cannot abandon any part of the black, story AND i
would ask that we cease all behavior that is fragmented
the black. Experience too many times we hand out, sorryes

(01:14:12):
we hand out thank. You we can work with anyone
except each. Other let's not marginalize one. Another it's up that.
PODCAST i see y'all in a few. Days let's get.
It BUT i just wanted to punch in real quick
man and speak to y'all for a second BECAUSE i
ain't gonna talk about this on the next. Episode AND
i probably gave y'all too. LONG i only wanted to
give y'all twenty five. Minutes god, DAMN i get lost

(01:14:35):
in this shit. SOMETIME i really appreciate. Y'ALL i see
y'all next. Time it's up that. Podcast make sure you,
hear like subscribe and shall let somebody KNOW i was.

Speaker 1 (01:14:43):
THERE i seen him do. IT i seen him do.
IT i was.

Speaker 2 (01:14:47):
There it's up that. PODCAST i love, y'all see y'all
a couple of. Days love for shitty

Speaker 8 (01:15:01):
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