DJ Akademiks crowns NBA YoungBoy “King of Rap” after Atlanta show—Loon reacts. YB vs Durk & Von history, “I Hate YoungBoy” live at State Farm, media framing, touring leverage, Gilbert Arenas x Underdog, Skip Bayless, Aiden Ross & Thug.
n this executive-level breakdown, I salute NBA YoungBoy’s first real touring run while pushing back on how media frames his brand. Calling YB the “King of Rap” might trend—but the way it’s framed can paint targets and stir pots that don’t need stirring, especially when you’re moving city to city trying to run a clean rollout. We talk why celebrating the win ≠ escalating old narratives, and why amplifying ring-kissing rhetoric or “he having it his way” talk can misalign with the mission to take over the game.
From Atlanta’s energy around “I Hate YoungBoy” to the constant comparisons with Durk/Von history, I explain why a State Farm Arena performance—with real security protocols and corporate risk teams—isn’t the same thing as Gucci performing “Truth” in a club. Context matters when the stakes include safety, sponsors, and a multi-city tour.
We also get into ownership vs. “infrastructure”: Gilbert Arenas revealing Underdog Fantasy owns 50% of his show, schedule pressures, and what a Skip Bayless hire signals about who really calls the plays when equity is on the table. If you don’t control the levers, you are the lever.
Plus, I speak on streamers pulling artists into headlines for content—why calling Thug on stream about YB is bad etiquette and how online culture can block real brotherhood moments. Protect the relationships, not the algorithm.
What you’ll hear me press:
• Celebrate YB’s tour without feeding beef cycles or “target” narratives.
• Atlanta show ≠ green light for chaos—learn the difference between showmanship, security, and street mythology.
• Ownership vs. optics: the cost of giving up 50% for “infrastructure.”
• Don’t “pop it from the house”—if you’re going to pop it, stand on it.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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We'll be rolling out merching other things to complement and
act as condiments to the main course, which the product
is the podcast and everything surrounding that. So I want
to thank each and every person that is been patient
with us as we get that on the road and
get that up and going. You know, the business is good,
(01:06):
the business is booming. They're saying we're in the recession.
You know, I was, I was tripping. I was looking
online yesterday and interestingly enough, the singer Mario popped up
and What I found interesting is is that a lot
of the fans own look as customers, people that just
digest music. They live in his fairy tale land where
(01:29):
they think these people ain't human beings.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Right.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
I remember that time when Shannon Shaw was on was
on camera and I think he was doing his other
show with Chad O Chosenko, and he was just he
was talking like this right here. He looked shut them,
and he looked right back, and like I was saying
about the past, all he had to do was though,
you know, he got right back to business. And you
(01:52):
know what, as I'm sitting here speaking about it and
flushing it out, I think that's what's funny about this shit.
I think the funny part what about this ship is
that them jump out of character and jump right back
in the character, like within the blink of it. Now,
like Mario, get the stage this baby, what do you
(02:15):
understand me? Yeah? So I think that's the funny part
of it is that people are examining it from that perspective, saying, Yo,
them jump out the character and jump right back in
the character. But you still won't take it for what
it's worth and say, oh yeah, it's a it's an
under there. Yeah, all at this that and the third
three piece suit wearing a whole budget add it's a
(02:38):
it's a yeah, it's an N word under there. Uh huh, yeah,
you blending in. See, that's the game. We ain't taught
of each other how to blend in. I was trying
to really give it to my children. The unfortunate thing
was that I wasn't able to stay in the same
house with either one of my boys, so I kind
(02:59):
of and I lost a little bit of control that
I wish I could have had. And I think people,
I think that's a conversation that'll be had, Like have
a conversation for two hours just about to control you
lose by not being in the same household with your children, right,
some of the influences. And people argue the other side
and say, well, you still can be very influential. And
(03:21):
I would argue that every knot that you tag and
be untied if where he spends the majority of his
time is running a plan outside of what you running, right,
So you can argue both sides and again as an
hour or two conversation just in that. But you know,
I think I've done a great job, and you can
ask my boys. You know, they'll tell you. My daddy
(03:43):
don't never not answer, and my daddy don't never not
do whatever I ask him unless it's physically impossible. Unless
you call me in I'm in Houston and you say
pick me up right quick from school. I ain't even
dying there, brother, right. Those are the only scenarios I
find myself in. But you know, we always working to
(04:06):
be a better son, a better father, you know, a
better mate. You understand me. You got to be pushing
for greatness. There's a lot to talk about though. We're
pushing for greatness. We at the top of the charts.
Thankful all of y'all. It's always tuned in to watching
you understand Salutes y'all for shit show. I really appreciate it.
What y'all want me to talk about? First? You know,
(04:28):
it's an interesting thing because I get a lot of
my ideas just from sitting down and thinking, and so
part of this podcast is me flushing out some of
those ideas in real time. And so people bear with
me if I'm in a scenario to get information wrong,
and I always reserve the right to change my mind
and operate this thing from a different perspective. There's a
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conversation been happening online, and if I'm being totally honest,
it's a manufactured conversation. It's not something that's foreign to
the inner city, the black cold culture, the quote unquote streets,
which I'm not a fan of, even shine this kind
of light on where you have to get into these
intricate details. But I think certain situations it's necessary for
(05:13):
us to really break things down because what happens is
it starts to affect the way that people think. See
what I've noticed over my time as being one of
the biggest podcasts in black culture, what I've noticed is
a lot of these people about an outfit off do Manneguin.
And what I mean is they're programmed, right, They're being
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told what to say, they're being told what the wether,
They're being told what's cool. They don't necessarily look at
it hat and say, yo, I rock with that hat.
I like how that had looked right there, But they
say is it chrome Halt? They don't even know why
chrome hart is chrome hard. They don't even know that
most of that shit is really custom shit, you understand me.
(05:55):
They really don't even have no understanding about the value
of things. But they've been told that things are valuable.
This is the trick bag that a lot of people in.
I'm not in that trick bag, right, I dictate, I
don't follow. I'm a leader, Right, So I look at things,
and now, if you got something that I think is cool,
I can get it from you. Oh, I think that's
(06:16):
pretty cool. What kind of camera is that? Hey, let's
start using them cameras. Because another thing you don't want
to do is be someone who has developed the inability
to accept new information and you get stuck on that
old shit you've been thinking and that old way you've
been moving. Right, that'll be an issue too. So I
think you gotta be careful, no matter what the reason
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I say. I hate speaking about these intricate details. And
as much as when I first started, I thought it
was harmless, and still do kind of feel as harmless
because I feel as though every man must have his
own path and he must learn what to digest. There's
nothing we can do. You understand me. We're in an
overload of information error, the overconcent psumption of things. It's
(07:01):
now about choices. Who you listening to, what you're listening to,
what they're giving you. Is it true? Is it on
the floor, through the roof? It's about who listen, man.
I called all of this because I'm wondered. I'm elite now,
so I called all of this. I told people we
were overexposed. And you know what happens when you overloaded
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and you overexposed something. It was too much information, too
many podcasts, too many personalities, too many rappers, too many rich,
too many bbls, too many Instagram models, too many filler lips.
We fell in love with all of this shit all
at the same time because we were all programmed. You
will see the internet fall in love with something and
fall out of love with that same thing. What happens
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is you have taste makers. And so my point wraps
back around. I said a long time ago, we were overexposed.
So what becomes more important tastes. It's the same thing
when you go into grocery stores. There's a large quantity
of people that can provide you with not your chips
in a red bad or do you on these do ritos?
It's about tastes, which one do you want? And our children,
(08:06):
unlike us, if you can just send us down the
right role We'll figure out how to get that because
they much down on the right road. Nowadays, you gotta
be careful even sending your kids down the right rod,
because even down the right road, they got the wrong
things and can take you the wrong route, take you
from the right road to the wrong road into a
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dead end. And that's why I see it about the streets.
It's a dead end. There's a million people that provide
ranch There's a million people that provide gas, right, And
that's what we're dealing with now. In entertainment, Oh, you
like the Melanis style? Is a million of them? Choose
one who you think who's the premiure act? There's a
million people doing interviews. Who has the real conversations? Who
(08:49):
really is important to culture? Right? You know all of
the great men, they've been black balled. Don't let that
go over your head. See a lot of a lot
of the people who think they're on the same level
as me. They don't understand that I'm fighting a different
fight than them. I'm already past where they trying to go.
And when you get past that part, you will see
(09:10):
what I'm up against. There's an in crowd inside of
this in crowd and you will be in situations where
you will see people purposely not make moves on your behalf.
I'll give you case in point. My name is Loni's
up that podcast. I have been instrumental in other podcasts
getting big interviews.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Me.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
I pass numbers around height. Hey, do want to get
on there? Or get bra on them? Man, get him
on there. I ain't never received an incoming call about that.
These niggas look at me. Competitions so heavy it's crazy.
But I get it because no, I'm authentic and I'm
really that and I'm having really good conversations right now.
(09:50):
We just upgraded all the cameras. It's on another level
at this point. Right we're getting were understanding the bells
and whistles of all of the new equipment, and then
we got we roll it out with our new interviews
and figured that out. Once we figure that out, the
building is done, we get us to set built. We're
in a great situation. Speaking of getting sets built, We'll
(10:13):
start to show a Gilbert Arenas for people who do
not know. Gilbert Arenas has been going viral online due
to him releasing some of the facts that the internal
business practices of his podcast and his business as it
pertains to his show Gills Arena. There's been a constant
conversation about these kind of things. I think it's pretty interesting.
(10:35):
Let's take a look at this clip.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
How about this. Let me let me see y'all, let
me see what y'all did.
Speaker 4 (10:41):
The idea of them saying, hey, yeah, you know, we
want to put the football show on Gills Arena, and
I'm like, nah, like nah, that's not I don't want
that to mess up the channel that much. Like that?
Speaker 1 (10:52):
All right, I'm sorry we abruptly got into that video clip.
Let me lay a foundation and do some context setting
around what we're listening to. Gil's Arena was a show
that was getting views comfortable to ESPN, if not blowing
him out of the water on a lot of their shows.
And it was a YouTube show by Gilbert Arenas in
which he had went and got some other retired players
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and people who has been instrumental on teams to come
and provide a service at a show, and the people
fell in love with it. It took off. He then
got into talks with Underdog Fantasy. Underdog Fantasy decided to
own fifty percent of the business in exchange for what
was called infrastructure. I want to be clear what I'm
(11:34):
saying on this up that podcast that I'm not saying
Underdog even approached Gilbert with this deal. Maybe Gilbert came
with the deal because he feels the way he speaks
about it, how Cavaliery speaks about it tells me that
he was comfortable with it at that time. Maybe he
felt like it was a good deal. Maybe he still
feels like it's a good deal because I did hear
that they making a lot of money. But fifty percent
(11:56):
of your company can get uncomfortable, and I think that's
what this conversation is about today, right, So I just
want to put context on it. He's now speaking from
a position of all, right now, because Underdog Fantasy owns
fifty percent of my show, they're now trying to implement
changes into our schedule because of our pay scale and
(12:17):
our pay rate, and so now they're forcing changes on us.
From a perspective, Hey, we own this show. We have
interest in this show, not only financial but legally, and
we want to exercise our right to say, hey, figure
this out. We want to make room for the football season,
and a show that surrounds football. It gets even crazier
(12:37):
because we find out here lately when they just made
the recent hire skill Bayless, it was an underdog fantasy move,
and it was a forced move. But just for context,
Gilbert Arenas are speaking about underdog fantasy owning fifty percent
of his company and now implement changes that are contrary
to his position from a business perspective. Pay attention, Hey.
Speaker 4 (13:02):
You know, because you know we we you know, we
pay these guys. We want to take up you know,
we want to make a pay cut to your your crew,
and y'all kind of very expensive, you know what I mean.
It's you know, you, Joe y'all got a lot of
you know you, Joe mckinson. You know, we might want
to say they couldn't only be three or four of y'all,
(13:22):
how about that?
Speaker 3 (13:24):
M then they fire everybody to make up for the
money that they just gave, skipping all these guys.
Speaker 4 (13:34):
So okay, when when framed it that way, I'm like,
we got kind of the most expensive podcast crew that
you can think of. You know, do sufficient numbers to
cover those expenses? It's not talking pay cuts you start
(13:57):
looking around.
Speaker 5 (13:59):
Yeah, over nine hundred million views in two and a
half years, so one of about four or five other
shows that that can say that, and one of about
one of the two shows they can say they do
it organically. Hey, yeah, yeah, they pumped up.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
Now, y'allul have told me I would have sold out
if I would have said, nah, hit y'all on your
own channel and then it's just me and join it
by ourselves because the other six fire. Ye a man
of the people ask, because I'm telling you what what
what was being hinted? We could do it the hard way,
(14:38):
or we can do it the easy way. So what's
the easy way? The easy way is, you know, we
like this football show. We think they're gonna we think
they're gonna be doing Monday, Tuesday, Thursday.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
Okay, what's the hard way? We can go on our
own channel and we can struggle with views.
Speaker 4 (14:58):
After we spend all this money on them.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
And you know, we think that your.
Speaker 4 (15:03):
Cast is very expensive, flying in flying now, you know,
having little parties here and there doing all this extra
shit y'all love to do.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
We're gonna have to take a picut somewhere put all
that stuff.
Speaker 5 (15:18):
Performing very well, gil big numbers so so compared to
the competition.
Speaker 4 (15:24):
If I basically say you know, yeah, we're doing five
days a week. Yeah, y'all can do five days a week,
you know, you know how you and Joy like to
do five days a week by yourself or just with
one or two other people. Because and I was like,
all right, man, I get it. Okay, I get it.
(15:45):
Go ahead, thank you? Yeah, oh yeah no, Rashad is
still fine and you're still fine.
Speaker 5 (15:57):
Swaggy Pig is still swaggy, mister b Brandon Jenny. Hey, hey,
now we added Paul Pierce, you know, so they love
it football. We get to add people.
Speaker 4 (16:07):
They started looking at two hundred three hundred people and
that start that shit started looking like battle mode.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
Yeah we would have.
Speaker 5 (16:14):
We would have.
Speaker 4 (16:15):
We would lost a whole bunch of people. I could
tell you that for sure.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
I'm speaking the truth.
Speaker 4 (16:23):
Niggas would have gotten fired if that Football show would
have started by itself. Let's just say that, because they
got to recoup their money somehow.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
So he's speaking about the Football Show, if I'm understanding
them correctly, He's saying that the Football Show is feeling
and they're using his channel, the channel that he built.
And I think there's an interesting conversation to be had
right here about ownership and execution, because ownership without execution
it leaves you unproductive. What happens is if you could
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have execution on top of your ownership, that's where you
can win. And sometimes it's hard to sustain. And I'm
figuring that out myself that like sustaining, this is a lot.
There's a lot of moving parts, a lot going on.
I do have a team that I paid people who
make money on behalf of me, and because I am
who I am and on behalf of the business. But
it sounds like that Gilbert a Reenez gave them fifty
(17:19):
percent of his show, which included in that. I guess
the YouTube channel was an asset because it was laying
dormant for a long time and they started to put
this on it and it blew up and now they
own fifty percent of it. But if I understand him correctly,
he's speaking about that show being unproductive and then the
fact that they would have to fire people if they
(17:40):
counted on that show by itself.
Speaker 4 (17:42):
Now football show looked good, Shootball are good. We added
people to our cast. How we can afford ball Pierce?
I think he's cheap, Yeah.
Speaker 5 (17:58):
Fair and shot everybody chat. I was actually supposed to
host the football show initially, but then.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
They put the schedule day. I said, that's too many days,
so be out. I'll talk all these extra days. But
no ever bread. I thought you was a football show.
Speaker 5 (18:15):
He's like, yeah, I saw all these extra days, but
there was no talk about extra bread.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
And I am good at man.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
I guess the conversation is because I guess the internet
is running with the fact that while he's in a
three sixty deal, which is jargon from the music business.
A couple of interesting points I think Gilbert made is
what I'm getting from his conversation is, Yo, the Skip
Show is something that they wanted to do. They done,
they hired him. You know, we have now got them
in the green to where they're making money, and so
(18:44):
now they want to add And I get it from
an underdog fantasy standpoint. They make money from bedding. They
want to cover all sports. Gilbert, now this has become
a passion. It's fun for him. Probably he's making a
lot of money. He probably never even saw it coming.
And now we're just blossom to something and that's not
only productive, but it's passion field. And so he's now
(19:05):
adding people and have ideas for it, and probably would
have took it in a totally different direction had he
not signed that paperwork in the beginning. And I'm gonna
be honest, Gilbert made a lot of money over his career, right,
And so part of me is, if what they're reporting
is true, is making me feel a way because Gilbert
is someone who I would think understands business. I'm not
(19:26):
even gonna put think on it. He's had too much
money for such a long time. You have to learn,
so I know he knows about business and money. So
my position is, and if this is just what I'm hearing,
I'm hearing that Gilbert swapped out fifty percent of this
entire business for quote unquote a fancy word called infrastructure.
And part of this is my fault, you know what
(19:48):
I'm saying. I came in the game talking infrastructure talk,
and that's the thing. You got to give a lot
of direction and instructions next to that kind of conversation,
because it's so loaded to just start regurgitating allegedly be
saying that shit sometime and I'm saying that don't mean nothing.
What you just said don't cover you from nothing. You
(20:08):
understand me. But I know in the legal world that
gives you room to fight. But for me, people don't
really understand what the word means. They use it because
they've been it either been used on them or they've
been told what it means, and that's how they use it.
Infrastructure was one of those words, you know. I came
in with the information infrastructure we got to build this,
and da da da, Me and Larussell had a long
(20:29):
conversation about infrastructure did well appeal to a larger audience
and people really appreciated young and old, and so part
of the infrastructure conversation comes on the heels of us
coming in the game and pushing that line. You'll be
surprised what we pushed. Don't say my name because they
don't know what come with it. Right, I need y'all
to really understand this, right. I was listening to a
(20:50):
rapper the other day speak about young thug, and we said, man,
help young thug man. When it done interview with young
thug man, it nigga help young thug. They know no bank,
so they say bank and man and mother and they
help young thug. And so again, you really don't say
my name cause you don't know what he come with.
You really don't know what's going on. I'm a content creator,
(21:12):
I'm in the industry. I'm here to make content, here
to have great conversation and do interviews. But I can
feel the energy. I can feel it too. I'm saying, Oh,
they don't know what to say. They don't know how
to approach me, because you don't know if you understand me,
come with that. You don't know if a fit it
had come with that. You don't know what come with
mentioning me, and how you can even really approach me
if you ain't never been in a room with me,
(21:33):
of really been next to me. But yeah, so he
was saying, man happen young thug, I ain't have nobody
to help me, basically saying we didn't let our platform
to him in the way that we did thug with
me ushering in this infrastructure word, I think part of
the issue is people are using this word and not
really knowing what they need or what infrastructure consists of.
(21:54):
Because sometimes people are like, if when I'm hearing is correctly,
I don't want to preface this with that because I
don't want give to see this and think I'm really
trying to shoot that in but you know, it is
what it is. But they were saying that the only
thing that they offered him at the time was thumbnails
and running YouTube and things of that nature. And of
(22:16):
course they'll throw a fancy word like marketing in that.
And I think Underdog, that's a strong shoe for them
because at the time, I think they had deals with
a lot of different partners. And what they'll possibly do
is cross promote your show on all of these other shows,
And I think that's a behavior that we need to
see more of in this industry. It's like, Yo, cross
promote this show in front of these people and do
(22:38):
it in a way where they can really convert some
of the listeners and make people really want to go
and check it out. I think we have room for that,
room for improvement in this business for that. But I
think maybe Underdog position themselves is being able to not
only do thumbnails titles and YouTube and things of that nature,
but we have a market in the system. It's insulated
(22:58):
with people that's already on our pay roll. We buy
slot from all of these top shows and top brands
and top shows, right, and we can integrate your brand
on that. I think that's a selling point at that time.
I think Gilber's show probably would have still went, but
fifty percent of the show for that, I just don't
think that that's a fair trade off, especially if you're
(23:18):
saying nine hundred million views in two years and y'all
y'all got fifty percent because y'all do thumbnails and titles
cross collaborated me on some insulated ads, on some partners
that you already had in place. I mean, I understand
the value. Then I do see the business lane, I
see the business route that you can go. But I
just think that maybe it could have been thirty percent,
(23:41):
twenty percent, and you, I guess, did the set And
I'm not gonna lie. That's a that's a large part
of it.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
I think.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
Course, when someone like Underdog does that knowing that it
comes out of your budget. Ultimately they own fifty percent
of the company, they'll be a little bit of wasteful spending.
But he has a beautiful set. It's at his home
that has to be beautiful because he can go down
there and be loaded with them dudes. His people can
cook for them dudes, chefs at his career right, living
(24:09):
a certain lifestyle, and so I think that's a beautiful
space for his shit to be. I haven't got that yet.
I see a lot of these podcasts. People all come
on to the house and do a pard. They'd be like, boy,
they live in a different life than we live in, right,
and not currently, but just come from different backgrounds, right,
And my castle, my mansion, my home is everything to me,
(24:30):
and I don't want to be in position where everyone
knows where that's at. Fifty percent of your company is
a bad deal if you're asking me. He's making three
four million dollars a year from this podcast at this point.
He gave them fifty percent for thumbnails titles and for
them to build him a set. I don't understand the
business acumen that would have made that decision plausible in
their minds. But again, I do understand that they position
(24:54):
themselves as a market and behemoth, and they'll be able
to cross collaborate him in a way that would raise
his profile as it pertains to his show. Now, this
is the interesting dynamic. I mean, Gilbertarenas is a basketball
hall of fame if you ask me, and he's a
hall of fame with that's speaking on the sport so
it comes with a built in audience. People respect his mind.
(25:16):
I don't really think that it was necessary to cross collaborated,
And if it was, he could have paid for that
out of pocket and kept, you know, more of the
percentage of the company. Or we could have split that
expense and I give you guys twenty five percent and
will split that expense whatever it costs. Y'all, bill me
fifty percent of that and I'll pay that out of
(25:37):
my own money, and then we'll get y'all at twenty
five like you got. You gotta double back with something
on your behalf. And I think that's if you're asking
me that that step was missed in this negotiation process. Man,
seeing it that forcing the football show on him with Skip,
(25:57):
I'm pretty sure they're unhappy about him even saying that,
because now that makes the energy weird. Skip knows that. Man,
I'm over here trying to work for y'all. This dude
came out and said the show ain't really doing that
good and it feels like it's forced. And he didn't
say that, but if you read the tea leaves, that's
what you get from it. You know, Gilbert is basically like, man,
(26:17):
this show is something that they wanted to do. My
budget is going to the basketball shit. They wanted to
do their football show. So they invested in this, They
invested in that, and at some point you have to
respect it. He did business with him, and they're able
to make that decision. But making three or four million
dollars a year, I'm pretty sure that set didn't cost
that amount of money, and so I think if Gilbert
(26:39):
looked back at it, he would change his mind and
maybe let them get twenty five percent and split the
expense on the market. And if they're positioning themselves as
a marketing machine, I'd rather pay for it than give
you a percentage of the company, especially off of YouTube
channel that's already built, had hundreds of thousand subscribed, was
just sitting there and when you started to create the content.
(27:02):
And in that era, I think in one of the
first or second waves of people speaking on basketball who
played basketball owning their company or at least positioning themselves
as being the owner of the company, I think he
was either the first or second wave, and so this
shit was on fire. Salute the Gilbert. Though, we'll figure
it out, We'll watch it as it develops. Wondering how
these shows do. We're gonna position him as being one
(27:24):
of the top sports shows. I mean, I'm gonna keep
it gangster Gilbert arenas them they had one of the
top shows in the market right now. It's doing phenomenal.
Salutor Gilbert. Let's keep it moving, all right, Let's have
a conversation that really come to have today on this
up that podcast. And they put us in a tight spot,
right being a big home in the culture, someone that
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people look at to have these kind of conversations, with
an honest backdrop, with a certain texture and a level
of understanding that most of the people in media don't have.
You don't have a responsibility on the side of my
responses and the as a dude that it may leave
on the younger generation. And so I handle some of
these things with kid gloves. And again, sometimes I don't
(28:07):
get into the intricate details. It's not necessary for me
to do. But other times it's necessary. I show you
how the sausage is made. When I find out that
some of the ingredients are being tampered with, some of
the well being is being mishandled, some of the individuals
have malicious intent or maybe emotionally driven, right, IOLs become
(28:33):
rivals sometimes. I understand what that means and how that looks.
And I want people to really understand the hate outfit
it's a cheap outfit, or the contrarian that's a cheap outfit.
To keep the beef going, that's a cheap outfit. You're
weighing cheap outfits, right, and so I want you to
elevate your understanding to have a level of conversation you
low budget add need to really get it aut together,
(28:56):
low budget ad. But I do want to have a
conversation today about NBA Young Boy. I want to celebrate
what he's doing on the road while I have a
conversation about what Academics is doing with Young Boy's brand.
As much as I enjoyed watching Young Boy and what
he's doing, I think what Academics is doing with his
brand is ill advised. And if you're asking me the
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incentives for what he's doing, it misaligns what your objective,
which is take over the world, take over the game.
Had enough time making enemies and talking enemy talk. Look
what they got? Look what he got, Thug and Luci,
Look what he got dirt, Look what he got? Vaughn
and Young Boy and Kwondo. The understanding of some of
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the young that why I don't be wanting some of
the child is looking in the kill and so it's
hard to justify watching academics parade NBA Young Boy and
put him out in front of fires, put him out
in front of trying to get him distant and rap
it like his And maybe he thinks he's bigging him up.
I think he's smart enough to know that he's positioning him,
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almost putting him out there like a target. He's putting
a target on his back. And not because he's celebrating
his success. It's because some of the things that he's
speaking on in the back drop, Oh they kissing his ass,
Oh he had any way, Oh he don't forgot right.
Some of these things is if you're asking me, it's
stirring up pots that don't need to be stirred. So
I want to I want to put some context around
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some of it.
Speaker 5 (30:22):
Today.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
You hear academics today say things that will respond to
in real time. Let's start this off by taking a
look at this video on the heels of NBA Young
Boy performing in Atlanta. Let's look at the atmosphere that
academics have surrounded him and what he's what He's ultimately
putting the NBA young boy in front of pay attention.
Speaker 6 (30:43):
Oh man, young boy, kick a rap. We just gotta
claim it today, king a rap, King a rap. I
wasn't gonna stream tonight. I'm like, you know, I think
the Chad give me past a little jet like, well whatever,
it's not really Jetlake.
Speaker 3 (30:56):
Because I'm coming from a Miami whatever.
Speaker 6 (30:58):
But I'm like, you know what, you gotta get your
house in order, blah blah, you know, make sure the
moms was everything. Everything good here Pluto and you know,
the kids or whatever. So I'm like, man, damn, shit
is getting late.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
I'm like, damn, I might not. I might not be
able to get on. Like they gonna understand.
Speaker 6 (31:13):
I hope they understand, like I'm a human, right, I'll
popping tomorrow. We'll get the desk stop stream. Man, why
be performing at this song? If he could catch it
in Chicago, he called it, he caught it in Atlanta?
What the what the whole thing happened? I ain't gonna
cap this is a walkdown. We gotta keep it a
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hunted and I ain't gonna lie. The best thing I
like about why be performing at this song? There was
a few allegedly that might have been teetering, like, Yo,
put him now, Dirt locked up, Dirk locked up, even
though when Dirt was free, we were standing on business
and it was like, Yo, we can't put him but
(31:55):
Dirt locked up, Like maybe we could put him now slack, Yo,
he's to do a shut on that.
Speaker 3 (32:01):
Oh y'all, Holy number one.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
Let me say a few things because I think I
think it's my space to speak on it. I don't
like the energy that the academics is wrapping around NBA
young boy as he's on his first run with this
tour thing, as he's trying to get his feet under
him and go out there and get wreak some of
the benefits of some of the hard work he's put
in over the last decade, and he's his inability to
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be able to move across the world has guarded him
a certain fan base that had to know him outside
of just seeing him on tour. They had to learn
him intimately, and they've done that. But you hear him
speak about people teetering the line, teetering some sort of line.
He's calling it as if NBA young boy has active
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beefs with these rap dudes. But that teetering the line.
And there was a video that I was made aware
of that academics made thinking about this situation and they
said it was in response to what he believes to
be young boys posts being liked by a little baby.
Here's that video. Pay attention is.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
Being on friends of them, man, like you know, respectful
that I think Dirk went and jail and I'm doing
their calculations, like, yo, y'all don't think of getting out
yo wabbie, what's popping by w what's the best for smirk?
Speaker 3 (33:25):
But some of y'all ras claim that y'all brothers twins
and all this dumb shit. Y'all be saying y'all are
dead wrong.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
You know, it's a sore spot for me for people
to take their platform. They're polarizing profile and they direct
people into some of these dog rooms and it be
somebody like academics that applauds the division of these rappers,
and it's a very bankrupt mindset. Number one, let me
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say this, whether this picture is AI or not, let's
set that to the side. Let's just speak on the
atmosphere that they've created around Young Boy and also created
around these other rappers. It's like, Yo, they can't even
go give young boys props. They can't even go show
up and pop out at his show. They can't even
do nothing because people gonna try to run out and say, oh,
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he's grabbing on the young boy's flame. He trying to
be hot with young Boy.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
Nah.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
People just saluting that young dude while he's haling his business.
And I haven't asked Ug. This be poart of me
think because Thug didn't go down there cause he don't
even want to press to go along with all this shit.
All y'all gonna be talking and wonder this, that and
the third because I know they talk. I'm really behind
the scenes, so I know they talk and I know
what's going on. But at the end of the day,
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I know that it's like, oh, Academics and all these
other I think bknocklers out about who gonna show up
and they gonna call it dig right, And I thought
you didn't mess with him. And I don't know whether
Academics understands or not, but it's intended to deceive its evident.
We can see it brother, like we're looking at it.
It's not tricking them. It's not tricking it. One when
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you say that it ain't like a post whether it's
real or not. But it can't come to the show
without just showing Lord a young boy. It gotta be
a his flame and he on fire and a big
riding him. Man, you gotta really be honest about some
of these situation. It's evident his intent to deceive the public.
(35:24):
Case in point, young Thug comes out his post release
from jail album Been Gone a While, does like sixty thousand,
fifty eight fifty nine thousand something like that was his
first week numbers, and all of these blush they pearls.
Young boy do forty fifty thousand first week? Don't nobody
say anything, Well, what you expect? You know, you know,
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Denny's conversations come with young boys, not a first week
sales artist. He has a different fan base, that's understood.
But what I'm saying is it feels like that there's
a lot of scenarios that I can point at, whereas
the rules for this and not for he, the rules
for deed and.
Speaker 5 (36:04):
Not for he.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
There's a constant contradiction in this conversation, and we're gonna
pay attention to it for about another fifteen or twenty
minutes because that's all I'm giving it today, and then
we out, but pay attention to academics saying that if
this picture is true, what a little baby liked the
post about NBA young boy, that these is wrong because
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Dirk is in jail and they was just riding with dirt. Well,
hold on, ladies and gentlemen, I know that he know that,
we know that he was that had Takashi sixty nine
on his platform talking about slide for Vaughan and Dirk
ain't got no get back from Vaughn. Do we think
(36:46):
we forgot that? Somebody opened my eyes and helped me
understand because this is content, this is real conversation, and
it's coming from the Southern District, the executive branch. Can
somebody help me understand the academics for get that we
are the same people that know and remember that he
was the only person that allowed to Cashi six' nine
(37:07):
to campaign sliding For vaughn on his platform while being
quote unquote friends with Little. Dirk we're gonna wake it.
Up are we gonna tell the? Truth are we gonna
tell the truth because we are privileged in, media because
we're needed more than the artist is. Needed we have
(37:30):
to tell the story and we can move on from
artists to, artists to artists to. Artists but ONLY i
can understand the language Because i'm in it AND i
knee deep in. It So i'm saying, that a, brother you,
remember we remember, That you remember, that we remember low budget.
Ads pay.
Speaker 6 (37:49):
Attention king of rap, shit, man king a. Rap he
definitely kill a street.
Speaker 3 (37:55):
Rapp BUT i gotta, say AFTER i see, him AFTER
i seen, tonight.
Speaker 6 (38:01):
This was some king of rap. Shit this is how
you take the. Thrown you don't get gifted the. Thrown
you take that sh. Yo, now, GRANTED i know Somebody
i'll be, like why you ain't doing To? Chicago, look
clearly was about to do To. Chicago when you get
to a certain, point it's kind of a blood sport,
already so you can't be, like oh, NO i hope
they're not. Offended SO i Thought kendrick should have ran
(38:22):
at eight.
Speaker 3 (38:23):
Times but this shit right, here young boy, PERFORMING i
hate young. Boy. Now, GRANT i know y'all gonna keep
saying what is In? Chicago, Though.
Speaker 6 (38:37):
Atlanta and the reason why it matters For. Atlanta atlanta
been in shambles since all the rat and. RUMORS i
think they've been. TRYING i think they've been having a
secret meetings trying to figure out how to get it back.
Together came out, Recently Nah, Yo atlanta's, back and everybody.
Speaker 3 (38:52):
Was, like what did he talking?
Speaker 1 (38:52):
About?
Speaker 6 (38:53):
Huh young boy goes To atlanta and on the song
he disliked three Four atlanta rappers and he went in
their building and performed a this on to all of the.
Speaker 3 (39:02):
MEN i should have went to The atlanta.
Speaker 6 (39:04):
SHOW i would have JUST i would have paid my
money to go to The atlanta show to see who
was backstage because this energy was on some.
Speaker 3 (39:10):
Shit, Anyway, uh if you guys haven't seen.
Speaker 6 (39:15):
Mister walking down HIMSELF nba young, boy and Yes i'm calling.
Him we're not talking About kendrick and we're not talking About. Drake,
okay that's a different. Level but as of, today and
this might, CHANGE i think every three. Months this is
how fast culture. Moves we might just have a new.
(39:36):
King but as of, today Young, boy king Of. Rat
but he walked down and everybody in The Dick ron
posse who's been trying to hop From dick To, dick
who've been trying to get on his good, side who'd been, Saying,
OH i Think dirk locked, up he might not get,
out let me go rock with. Him he gave, y'all
y'all notice either y'all gonna bow down and kissed the
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ring and he still might, do which means y'a don't
got no, pride which, whatever or y'all gonna have to
just acknowledge his. Ring and while y'all think rappers in
a lull or whatever the case, is you gonna watch
this man. Dominate and that's how you really run the.
Throne that's how you really run the. Throne everybody's, saying
rapping in a good, place you over here killing.
Speaker 1 (40:20):
It and so AS i listen to academics say these
kind of, things, like, yo you, KNOW i would have
paid to be backstage at The atlanta show to see
who was kissing the ring and these kind of. Things
have you ever been to a rap? Show all the
rappers in that, town they usually come out if it's
a popping, Artist do that mean they kissing the? Ring,
(40:40):
well it's different from you for young, Boy, well every
time we turn the. Corner it feels like that When
academics is, talking it's different For Young. Boy and that's
all THAT i want to point. Out Young boy is
a good artist with a phenomenal. Community that he has
some fans that are very, active and they're showing the
ability to have purchasing. Power our applaud that any black
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man is getting money to come from where we come.
From they come out that. Jungle i'm having love and
respect for, that BUT i ain't having no respect for
How academics is utilizing his brand and some of these
deliberate lies and these, mishandled manufactured claims that's coming out
Of academic's. MOUTH i was With baby on two a
couple of those, dates twenty thousand people singing Rod. Wave
(41:25):
he don't even need A michael phone when he come.
Out this generation has these artists that does. This WHAT
i think is interesting THAT i think should be noted
is that this Is Young boy's first time around the.
Sun he's been in legal trouble and he's had a
very tremoltuous career as it pertains to you, know his
rap shit and his personal. Life So god, willing he'll
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be able to go around and do this three or
four times and wrack up his hundred two hundred million
like these Young boy's been doing Rod wave on his
fifth summer doing. This Travis scott been doing his five,
years six year baby been doing this four five. Years
money bag done in one or two. Years we talking
about headline tours by theyself can go out and take
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care of the. Business we don't even got to speak
About drake And kendrick And kanye and those, guys of,
course but we're just talking ABOUT Nba Young boy's peers.
Now i'm not even sure That dirk was able to do,
it BECAUSE i think when he went on, TOUR i
think he went with what it was It Jake. COLE
i think he popped out With Ja cole at a few.
Days i'm not sure If dirk hasn't been able to
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even go on tour like that and rock those building
state The. STATE i could be, wrong And i'm sure
If i'm, wrong they'll put it in the. Comments but
this IS Nba Young boy's first, time and he's wreaking
the benefits of being away from his fans for so.
Long AND i think when they come dressed up and
with green flags and this, that AND i think that's
a very very very healthy relationship that he has with his,
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audience somewhat like What nicky. Has you, KNOW i even
argue that thought as that with his. Audience and that's
the comparison That i'm gonna, make is, that you, know
some of these people have a coult like. Following but
let's just entertain the. Fact let's just say If baby
did like the. Post and again we don't know if
that's fake or. Not The internet just says anything and
he does. Anything but let's Say baby did like a
(43:18):
post FROM Nba Young. Boy we are in a scenario
where some of these media outlets are being critical Of,
luching Thug in and their. BEEF i, mean it's the same.
Pattern there's a pattern of behavior by some of these
people that is, recognizable and if you pay, attention and
you pay attention to, patterns you can unlock these. Dudes.
MAN i Like Young, BOY i like a lot of these.
(43:39):
ARTISTS i hit these one. TIME i Hear alex one
time he followed. Me i'll follow. HIM i enjoy Young.
BOY i send my blessings when he was locked. UP
i Hear alex one TIME i didn't hit him no
more about no concert and, this that and the. THIRD
i ain't one of them kind of AND i can
make a call and have one of the rappers all top.
Himself you know What i'm. Saying BUT i just ain't
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one of them kind of, nicks you understand. Me let
the young boy shine that boy first trip around the.
Sun let him go get his money and be happy
and celebrate with his fans and embrace the love and.
Feel this is what a ROLE i feel.
Speaker 5 (44:15):
Like.
Speaker 1 (44:15):
Bro drop the, album gone to get the, bag come,
back do it again this high. Go, yeah they just
subbing this young in the. Game let him get his,
points stop hating and stop putting him out there in foul.
Trouble you got these false ass big homies with these
media platforms like academics throwing young boy in the middle
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of the. Crossfire boy he performing the dish In. Atlanta
now he being lowyer to his. Fans my, Knucke he
ain't coming with that kind of. Energy he ain't even known.
That let the boy go get a hundred two hundred.
Million let him have this busing boy. Nig this is y'all,
in y'all, back, y'all you know you staring up shit
you ain't gotta participate. In always tell him when they
show up to the, Fight i'm riding with. Him pop
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it out, off but don't pop it out from the.
House don't pop it out from the. House pop it
out from right here in the, middle Lou AND i
ain't even Ask. SPIDER i ain't Asked doug. This and
a part of me was thinking this despite her not
go down there and with young boy just because he
didn't want to be in the news and a part
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of the story cause he lame as gonna be like
old thug down there with young. Boy he need that,
boy he definitely need the he need, him, like couldn't
really like staying away from all that kind of. Shit
LIKE i don't want y'all even looking at this ship like. That,
MAN i don't even want to, MAN i don't even
want him looking at this ship like. That SO i
ain't gonna need. Now, see this is WHAT i don't
(45:42):
like about the atmosphere of the. Culture it's a taardown
coach with a fine tooth. COMB i didn't even like
the fact That Aiden ross called thug gonna stream ask
him About Young boy. Tour Aiden ross shooting and called
thug gonna scream on stream about? That what IF i
had a problem With Young BOY i didn't want the
world to know. About but see that's the young boys
(46:03):
that's in. Streaming they don't really know that this shit
get deep behind the, scenes so they'll just call you on, Stream,
hey you going to The Young boy? Concert and THEN
i gotta, say knowing, now that turns into, something and
that turns into a, conversation you know What i'm. Saying
so when you love someone and you got love for,
him you stay away from that kind of shit or
you text him you going to the young boy? Thing
(46:24):
you know What i'm, Saying you don't got to call
them for the. Stream that's in my. Opinion and, AIDEN
i know you're, young you're doing your. THING i like
you ain't no, Beef But i'm just speaking on behalf
of what should happen and what shouldn't happen in my,
opinion from my, perspective from my vanished, point from my,
Viewpoint i'm having the eagles, Eye So i'm on top
of this thing. Watching But god forbid that like academics
(46:48):
and his bullshit internet, culture we keep up from going
to holler at young boy when young boy on a
thug for a long. Time that slime, shit that, stug
that lime green, shit that's they. Sit he influenced young.
Boy young boy always have catered it with what thug
has said and his position in the. Marketplace that green
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flag didn't start In New. Orleans it then started from young.
Boy FOUR k trade. Did but that slime shit make
slime great, again and slime cry and all of. That that's.
Thug so. Picture if thug couldn't go holler this little
brother because some of the don't lie gonna. Say he
trying to suck his juice.
Speaker 3 (47:30):
Up, man he needed that.
Speaker 1 (47:31):
Help, Now, nah Just i'm coming with my little. Brother
he bringing me out on stage at the end of the.
DAY i know this climate is affecting. SHIT i know
that this bullshit that people like academics and some of
these other people are putting out. There and ALSO i
rather you, know we sit in front of each other
and had a conversation right in front of each, other
(47:52):
me and, you the, security, whoever bring whoever you won't
give a fool you. Brain we can turn it into
whatever you want to turn it. To BUT i want
to have a conversation about some of these topics BECAUSE
i want to see the. VIBRATION i want to see
as you playing or is this a serious thing you?
Doing pay.
Speaker 6 (48:10):
ATTENTION nba young boy showed up To. ATLANTA i don't
know too much of the ties that THAT Nba young
boy has To. Atlanta we all do Know atlanta does
mean something to.
Speaker 3 (48:24):
Him, ACTUALLY i think he used to live In. ATLANTA
i do know in.
Speaker 6 (48:29):
Recent times people kind of reflect On atlanta and WHAT
i think Of. ATLANTA i, felt, like you, know in
his feud With, Dirk dirk moved To atlanta and kind
of The atlanta rappers Adopted dirk in their circle of.
Friends and basically because they With, Dirk atlanta And atlanta rap.
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Scene i'm talking just a, rappers not the, fans because
everybody got fans, everywhere they became almost opposed to whatever
yb at going. On that's the, fact, right we could
reasonably say that right, Anyway it just shows you how
the ties.
Speaker 3 (49:13):
Changed by the, way this Was atlanta is a place
Where King van was.
Speaker 6 (49:17):
Killed they had a feud as, well And atlanta is
a place where you, know, Subsequently Little tim who who
did the, murder was never, convicted and the charges kind
of went, away and from my, understanding went away under
the pretense and the acceptance of the stands your ground
(49:40):
My michaelow the stans your ground, statue which means a
it's the fa fa fo mentality round find. OUT i
was a bit shocked that he got the key of the. City,
NOW i want to tell you all about the keys
of the. City these Give Nba young the key to the.
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City who got this?
Speaker 3 (50:02):
Song this and half in the. City half of this
is in the. City don't like is.
Speaker 6 (50:06):
Catching hollow tips and seven six two's is being sent
at traniums over this.
Speaker 3 (50:14):
Beef whether you knew it or, not that's a. Fact
so this is a whole another.
Speaker 6 (50:18):
Level this type of shit gotta be in the realm
of JULIOFOLIO youngi And ace some shit well you know is.
Speaker 3 (50:28):
Deceased it's. Different SO i want to make.
Speaker 6 (50:31):
Y'ALL i want you to understand that When i'm speaking about,
this this, Song i'm not trying.
Speaker 3 (50:36):
To be little no other this.
Speaker 6 (50:37):
Song, now we knew that the dirt disrespect and the
von disrespect was definitely gonna, happen because that's the majority
of the premise behind this. Song but there's a couple
others who caught some. Strays that's WHAT i was always
trying to, see especially now he In, atlanta but the
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young boy tuck his tail for The atlanta Super, thugs
or is it Now atlanta is seen as So atlanta
is Like? Disneyland, Right atlanta Like. Disneyland that is like
man running.
Speaker 3 (51:15):
On all of. Them let's just see out in your own.
Place this is.
Speaker 6 (51:18):
Crazy that's WHY i wanted to see so The dark
and Von PARK i was, like it's gonna. Happen you,
know if it Was, CHICAGO i would care more about
The dirk And Vonan. PARK i was just caring about
a couple of subliminals to like The Atlanta oh hearing
(51:44):
the entire crowd chant used to With gucci TILL i
seen him with them.
Speaker 3 (51:52):
Pussing i'm, like where we? At this is like a location.
Check you got to like, swibo oh the oh we're In?
Atlanta oh hell.
Speaker 6 (52:03):
ON i used to think that was the twenty One savage,
this but it's. Not that's A apparently that's a kayla
BECAUSE i think twenty One savage Had boordi some.
Speaker 1 (52:13):
Shit so academics proceeded to make a you know point
ABOUT Nba Young boy performing is this song In, atlanta
which is you, KNOW i guess that is. Newsworthy that's not,
worthy you know What i'm. Saying he performed the song
where he took shots at a few. People you, know
there was a time step in his life where him
And dirk was into it and making songs to one.
(52:36):
Another and, AGAIN i don't want this to be understated
young boys on a. RUN i heard academics also compare
Young boys performing of that song In stay F marina
To Gucci man's performing of The, truth AND i think
that was those pale in. COMPARISON i think there's a
distance between what happened With Gucci man Performing truth VERSUS
(53:03):
nb a young boy PERFORMING i Hate Young boy In
State Farm. Arena number, one there's a security clearance process
In State Farm arena that's gonna be second to none
when you have someone with the history That Young boy,
has or any rapper for that, note we are dealing
With Fulton, county who is in particular one of the
more strict counties on not only, lyrics BUT i think
(53:26):
they tend to hate rappers and their objective is to
run out the rappers out of the. Town with that being,
Said Gucci man was in a small. Club what can
grab him if they wanted, to can rush the stage
if they wanted, to things of that. Nature but no
one is coming for violence for Young. Boy people are
celebrating the fact, That, yo this is his first, Tour
(53:48):
this is his first time with the ability to really
wreak some of the benefits of what he's built all
of these. Years his negotiation power for the last three
or four or five year before he blew up like
he actually blew up DURING covid and things of that,
nature his negotiation power didn't even consider. Touring and even
if it, did from his, perspective it's no way he
(54:10):
could have gaged. It he had no real understanding of
what that looks. Like, now the labels probably. Did the
people on the other side probably knew that there was
a growing hunger for people to See Young boy on,
tour and so they may have understand it from a financial,
Standpoint But i'm not sure that he understood it or
his team understood, it because they never incorporated in their balance.
(54:31):
Sheet it wasn't. Incorporated his shit was made off streaming
YouTube things of that. Nature and he was doing quite.
Well he was a great streaming. Artist he's a legendary.
Act but we also want to put on the record
That dirk has performed his little dish to Young boy
and a lot of these crowds and popped out on
(54:51):
this and performed. It and also want to be, Clear
academics is drawing this line and saying, that, yo y'all Chose,
dirk don't with Young, BOY i won't dead the. Beef
but on top of, That academics is drawing this line
when he would crank up every one of his streams
listening To Eye, high which is a young boy. This,
now y'all fact check that and stop me When i'm,
(55:13):
lying cut me off When i'm. Lying and so it's
rules for d and not for. Heat these dudes are
making these manufactured, statements and their justification behind it is
if you're asking, me in, particular with a couple of these,
RAPPERS i truly Believe academics has his feelings. Hurt some
of these dudes may have shined him or didn't respect,
(55:35):
him and he never has gotten over. That but, bro
you gotta let that. Go these dudes dealing with a
lot of people coming at. Them a lot of different things.
Happening sometimes you catch on the bad, Foot but you
don't have to be emotionally involved with every time you
make a take about. Two ain't even on the. Internet,
dudes don't even go back and forth with. You you
steady more't making takes and making takes and making takes
(55:57):
every chance you. Get you fishing for, stories you putting
two and two, together and trying to do, this that
and the. Third none of it really is. Substantial none
of it makes. Sense and then the hypocrisy in this
position that you take about this dirt thing is mind
blowing to. Me the interview in which he repped About
(56:18):
Kwando rondo's homeboy being killed dirt allegedly is what they're.
Saying he reped on that shit in your, interview according
to the federal. Government so you And dirk had a
personal relationship where he'll come and say those kind of
things on your. Platform you Called dirk friends so many,
times in particular when young boy was going at, you.
(56:40):
Academics young boy was shitting on, you, academics and you
had winning holded up With dirk and started this lovey
dovey relationship that you must have forgot about now that
you backstage and you'd done been to ten different shows
while you're telling rappers that they can't squash the beef
with young boy and you clearly playing the fifty yard.
Line you won't leave the fifty yard line if you wide.
(57:03):
Open dirk has a relationship with, you and what she'll
talk to you from behind the wall on another on
call and get in. Trouble dirk did an interview with,
you and you asked him all these different questions about
all these different, things some in which pops up in
his federal indictment as we. Speak you allowed TO costi
six 's nine to come on your platform and continue
(57:24):
with sleeve speak about slide For vaughn in the climbing
What dirk was out here confused they done Killed. Vaughn
he dealing with his, brother dealing with shit out Of.
Chicago they turning on, him they saying, this and he
you is letting get on your, Platform holland he ain't
slid for Von you was the only to interview.
Speaker 3 (57:43):
Him you was the only that'll put his shit.
Speaker 1 (57:45):
Up and you would take your platform that a lot
of the coaches tapped, into and you would direct people
to Ta kashi six,' Nine Disrespecting. King vaughn whether that
be him wearing a jacket with him spray painted on
It With little dirk's look. Like, It man, come on
we don't have. Revisionist history but if you ain't, paying
attention somebody can get over. On you lucky, For me i'm.
(58:09):
Paying attention one thing we know about. Young boys he
gonna keep. It real he gonna say what. He feels
and so if his bullsh, is boosy if it's heird
man is, third man if, it's academics, IS like i
ain't expecting young boy to do nothing but say how.
You feel You see boosy. Pop out you see they
can bury the. Hatch it you See bird man riding,
(58:32):
With him you see they can bury the. Hatch. It
yo black men can do more than just kill. Each
other we won't gotta celebrate chaos. Like, THIS man i
think it's irresponsible for you to try to marginalize these
rappnings and bag a bit to a corner. Like this
ain't nobody saying need to. Be pushovers if it's on
their journey to get in the room with a, squash
something let him do that and let him do it
(58:54):
with our criticism for niggas that they never been in
position to have to squash. Nothing right these are some
of the younger gentlemen who were growing up they couldn't
get their hands on the gun if they, Needed one
and now they're positioning people to go and make these
kind of decisions on behalf or whatever culture that they
don't even. Participate in It's like monday morning quarterback and
(59:17):
Me and dirk don't got the. Best relationship you. UNDERSTAND
me I think dirk is holding his HEAD how i
think he doing his. TIME legit i don't like the
way his case looking. Right now it feels like they're
Aggressively approaching dirk in a way That just i'm. Uncomfortable
WITH and i say that they be IN, the feds
the federal government for people who do Not know dirk.
(59:37):
Is Inconcrated but i'm just saying the real is.
Speaker 4 (59:41):
The real.
Speaker 1 (59:44):
If young boys gonna have, the energy he gotta have
the energy for. Academics too ain't no way he done
got this cool with academics and academics was the need was?
Love it dovid, with dirt he WILL plan i high every.
Single stream he will RUN. Around otfi what make him
any different than he rapped that he'd be talking, About
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We'll be rolling out merching other things to complement and
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is the podcast and everything surrounding that. So I want
to thank each and every person that is been patient
with us as we get that on the road and
get that up and going. You know, the business is good,
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the business is booming. They're saying we're in the recession.
You know, I was, I was tripping. I was looking
online yesterday and interestingly enough, the singer Mario popped up
and What I found interesting is is that a lot
of the fans own look as customers, people that just
digest music. They live in his fairy tale land where
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they think these people ain't human beings.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Right.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
I remember that time when Shannon Shaw was on was
on camera and I think he was doing his other
show with Chad O Chosenko, and he was just he
was talking like this right here. He looked shut them,
and he looked right back, and like I was saying
about the past, all he had to do was though,
you know, he got right back to business. And you
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know what, as I'm sitting here speaking about it and
flushing it out, I think that's what's funny about this shit.
I think the funny part what about this ship is
that them jump out of character and jump right back
in the character, like within the blink of it. Now,
like Mario, get the stage this baby, what do you
(02:15):
understand me? Yeah? So I think that's the funny part
of it is that people are examining it from that perspective, saying, Yo,
them jump out the character and jump right back in
the character. But you still won't take it for what
it's worth and say, oh yeah, it's a it's an
under there. Yeah, all at this that and the third
three piece suit wearing a whole budget add it's a
(02:38):
it's a yeah, it's an N word under there. Uh huh, yeah,
you blending in. See, that's the game. We ain't taught
of each other how to blend in. I was trying
to really give it to my children. The unfortunate thing
was that I wasn't able to stay in the same
house with either one of my boys, so I kind
(02:59):
of and I lost a little bit of control that
I wish I could have had. And I think people,
I think that's a conversation that'll be had, Like have
a conversation for two hours just about to control you
lose by not being in the same household with your children, right,
some of the influences. And people argue the other side
and say, well, you still can be very influential. And
(03:21):
I would argue that every knot that you tag and
be untied if where he spends the majority of his
time is running a plan outside of what you running, right,
So you can argue both sides and again as an
hour or two conversation just in that. But you know,
I think I've done a great job, and you can
ask my boys. You know, they'll tell you. My daddy
(03:43):
don't never not answer, and my daddy don't never not
do whatever I ask him unless it's physically impossible. Unless
you call me in I'm in Houston and you say
pick me up right quick from school. I ain't even
dying there, brother, right. Those are the only scenarios I
find myself in. But you know, we always working to
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be a better son, a better father, you know, a
better mate. You understand me. You got to be pushing
for greatness. There's a lot to talk about though. We're
pushing for greatness. We at the top of the charts.
Thankful all of y'all. It's always tuned in to watching
you understand Salutes y'all for shit show. I really appreciate it.
What y'all want me to talk about? First? You know,
(04:28):
it's an interesting thing because I get a lot of
my ideas just from sitting down and thinking, and so
part of this podcast is me flushing out some of
those ideas in real time. And so people bear with
me if I'm in a scenario to get information wrong,
and I always reserve the right to change my mind
and operate this thing from a different perspective. There's a
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conversation been happening online, and if I'm being totally honest,
it's a manufactured conversation. It's not something that's foreign to
the inner city, the black cold culture, the quote unquote streets,
which I'm not a fan of, even shine this kind
of light on where you have to get into these
intricate details. But I think certain situations it's necessary for
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us to really break things down because what happens is
it starts to affect the way that people think. See
what I've noticed over my time as being one of
the biggest podcasts in black culture, what I've noticed is
a lot of these people about an outfit off do Manneguin.
And what I mean is they're programmed, right, They're being
(05:35):
told what to say, they're being told what the wether,
They're being told what's cool. They don't necessarily look at
it hat and say, yo, I rock with that hat.
I like how that had looked right there, But they
say is it chrome Halt? They don't even know why
chrome hart is chrome hard. They don't even know that
most of that shit is really custom shit, you understand me.
(05:55):
They really don't even have no understanding about the value
of things. But they've been told that things are valuable.
This is the trick bag that a lot of people in.
I'm not in that trick bag, right, I dictate, I
don't follow. I'm a leader, Right, So I look at things,
and now, if you got something that I think is cool,
I can get it from you. Oh, I think that's
(06:16):
pretty cool. What kind of camera is that? Hey, let's
start using them cameras. Because another thing you don't want
to do is be someone who has developed the inability
to accept new information and you get stuck on that
old shit you've been thinking and that old way you've
been moving. Right, that'll be an issue too. So I
think you gotta be careful, no matter what the reason
(06:38):
I say. I hate speaking about these intricate details. And
as much as when I first started, I thought it
was harmless, and still do kind of feel as harmless
because I feel as though every man must have his
own path and he must learn what to digest. There's
nothing we can do. You understand me. We're in an
overload of information error, the overconcent psumption of things. It's
(07:01):
now about choices. Who you listening to, what you're listening to,
what they're giving you. Is it true? Is it on
the floor, through the roof? It's about who listen, man.
I called all of this because I'm wondered. I'm elite now,
so I called all of this. I told people we
were overexposed. And you know what happens when you overloaded
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and you overexposed something. It was too much information, too
many podcasts, too many personalities, too many rappers, too many rich,
too many bbls, too many Instagram models, too many filler lips.
We fell in love with all of this shit all
at the same time because we were all programmed. You
will see the internet fall in love with something and
fall out of love with that same thing. What happens
(07:44):
is you have taste makers. And so my point wraps
back around. I said a long time ago, we were overexposed.
So what becomes more important tastes. It's the same thing
when you go into grocery stores. There's a large quantity
of people that can provide you with not your chips
in a red bad or do you on these do ritos?
It's about tastes, which one do you want? And our children,
(08:06):
unlike us, if you can just send us down the
right role We'll figure out how to get that because
they much down on the right road. Nowadays, you gotta
be careful even sending your kids down the right rod,
because even down the right road, they got the wrong
things and can take you the wrong route, take you
from the right road to the wrong road into a
(08:26):
dead end. And that's why I see it about the streets.
It's a dead end. There's a million people that provide
ranch There's a million people that provide gas, right, And
that's what we're dealing with now. In entertainment, Oh, you
like the Melanis style? Is a million of them? Choose
one who you think who's the premiure act? There's a
million people doing interviews. Who has the real conversations? Who
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really is important to culture? Right? You know all of
the great men, they've been black balled. Don't let that
go over your head. See a lot of a lot
of the people who think they're on the same level
as me. They don't understand that I'm fighting a different
fight than them. I'm already past where they trying to go.
And when you get past that part, you will see
(09:10):
what I'm up against. There's an in crowd inside of
this in crowd and you will be in situations where
you will see people purposely not make moves on your behalf.
I'll give you case in point. My name is Loni's
up that podcast. I have been instrumental in other podcasts
getting big interviews.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Me.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
I pass numbers around height. Hey, do want to get
on there? Or get bra on them? Man, get him
on there. I ain't never received an incoming call about that.
These niggas look at me. Competitions so heavy it's crazy.
But I get it because no, I'm authentic and I'm
really that and I'm having really good conversations right now.
(09:50):
We just upgraded all the cameras. It's on another level
at this point. Right we're getting were understanding the bells
and whistles of all of the new equipment, and then
we got we roll it out with our new interviews
and figured that out. Once we figure that out, the
building is done, we get us to set built. We're
in a great situation. Speaking of getting sets built, We'll
(10:13):
start to show a Gilbert Arenas for people who do
not know. Gilbert Arenas has been going viral online due
to him releasing some of the facts that the internal
business practices of his podcast and his business as it
pertains to his show Gills Arena. There's been a constant
conversation about these kind of things. I think it's pretty interesting.
(10:35):
Let's take a look at this clip.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
How about this. Let me let me see y'all, let
me see what y'all did.
Speaker 4 (10:41):
The idea of them saying, hey, yeah, you know, we
want to put the football show on Gills Arena, and
I'm like, nah, like nah, that's not I don't want
that to mess up the channel that much. Like that?
Speaker 1 (10:52):
All right, I'm sorry we abruptly got into that video clip.
Let me lay a foundation and do some context setting
around what we're listening to. Gil's Arena was a show
that was getting views comfortable to ESPN, if not blowing
him out of the water on a lot of their shows.
And it was a YouTube show by Gilbert Arenas in
which he had went and got some other retired players
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and people who has been instrumental on teams to come
and provide a service at a show, and the people
fell in love with it. It took off. He then
got into talks with Underdog Fantasy. Underdog Fantasy decided to
own fifty percent of the business in exchange for what
was called infrastructure. I want to be clear what I'm
(11:34):
saying on this up that podcast that I'm not saying
Underdog even approached Gilbert with this deal. Maybe Gilbert came
with the deal because he feels the way he speaks
about it, how Cavaliery speaks about it tells me that
he was comfortable with it at that time. Maybe he
felt like it was a good deal. Maybe he still
feels like it's a good deal because I did hear
that they making a lot of money. But fifty percent
(11:56):
of your company can get uncomfortable, and I think that's
what this conversation is about today, right, So I just
want to put context on it. He's now speaking from
a position of all, right now, because Underdog Fantasy owns
fifty percent of my show, they're now trying to implement
changes into our schedule because of our pay scale and
(12:17):
our pay rate, and so now they're forcing changes on us.
From a perspective, Hey, we own this show. We have
interest in this show, not only financial but legally, and
we want to exercise our right to say, hey, figure
this out. We want to make room for the football season,
and a show that surrounds football. It gets even crazier
(12:37):
because we find out here lately when they just made
the recent hire skill Bayless, it was an underdog fantasy move,
and it was a forced move. But just for context,
Gilbert Arenas are speaking about underdog fantasy owning fifty percent
of his company and now implement changes that are contrary
to his position from a business perspective. Pay attention, Hey.
Speaker 4 (13:02):
You know, because you know we we you know, we
pay these guys. We want to take up you know,
we want to make a pay cut to your your crew,
and y'all kind of very expensive, you know what I mean.
It's you know, you, Joe y'all got a lot of
you know you, Joe mckinson. You know, we might want
to say they couldn't only be three or four of y'all,
(13:22):
how about that?
Speaker 3 (13:24):
M then they fire everybody to make up for the
money that they just gave, skipping all these guys.
Speaker 4 (13:34):
So okay, when when framed it that way, I'm like,
we got kind of the most expensive podcast crew that
you can think of. You know, do sufficient numbers to
cover those expenses? It's not talking pay cuts you start
(13:57):
looking around.
Speaker 5 (13:59):
Yeah, over nine hundred million views in two and a
half years, so one of about four or five other
shows that that can say that, and one of about
one of the two shows they can say they do
it organically. Hey, yeah, yeah, they pumped up.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
Now, y'allul have told me I would have sold out
if I would have said, nah, hit y'all on your
own channel and then it's just me and join it
by ourselves because the other six fire. Ye a man
of the people ask, because I'm telling you what what
what was being hinted? We could do it the hard way,
(14:38):
or we can do it the easy way. So what's
the easy way? The easy way is, you know, we
like this football show. We think they're gonna we think
they're gonna be doing Monday, Tuesday, Thursday.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
Okay, what's the hard way? We can go on our
own channel and we can struggle with views.
Speaker 4 (14:58):
After we spend all this money on them.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
And you know, we think that your.
Speaker 4 (15:03):
Cast is very expensive, flying in flying now, you know,
having little parties here and there doing all this extra
shit y'all love to do.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
We're gonna have to take a picut somewhere put all
that stuff.
Speaker 5 (15:18):
Performing very well, gil big numbers so so compared to
the competition.
Speaker 4 (15:24):
If I basically say you know, yeah, we're doing five
days a week. Yeah, y'all can do five days a week,
you know, you know how you and Joy like to
do five days a week by yourself or just with
one or two other people. Because and I was like,
all right, man, I get it. Okay, I get it.
(15:45):
Go ahead, thank you? Yeah, oh yeah no, Rashad is
still fine and you're still fine.
Speaker 5 (15:57):
Swaggy Pig is still swaggy, mister b Brandon Jenny. Hey, hey,
now we added Paul Pierce, you know, so they love
it football. We get to add people.
Speaker 4 (16:07):
They started looking at two hundred three hundred people and
that start that shit started looking like battle mode.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
Yeah we would have.
Speaker 5 (16:14):
We would have.
Speaker 4 (16:15):
We would lost a whole bunch of people. I could
tell you that for sure.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
I'm speaking the truth.
Speaker 4 (16:23):
Niggas would have gotten fired if that Football show would
have started by itself. Let's just say that, because they
got to recoup their money somehow.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
So he's speaking about the Football Show, if I'm understanding
them correctly, He's saying that the Football Show is feeling
and they're using his channel, the channel that he built.
And I think there's an interesting conversation to be had
right here about ownership and execution, because ownership without execution
it leaves you unproductive. What happens is if you could
(16:57):
have execution on top of your ownership, that's where you
can win. And sometimes it's hard to sustain. And I'm
figuring that out myself that like sustaining, this is a lot.
There's a lot of moving parts, a lot going on.
I do have a team that I paid people who
make money on behalf of me, and because I am
who I am and on behalf of the business. But
it sounds like that Gilbert a Reenez gave them fifty
(17:19):
percent of his show, which included in that. I guess
the YouTube channel was an asset because it was laying
dormant for a long time and they started to put
this on it and it blew up and now they
own fifty percent of it. But if I understand him correctly,
he's speaking about that show being unproductive and then the
fact that they would have to fire people if they
(17:40):
counted on that show by itself.
Speaker 4 (17:42):
Now football show looked good, Shootball are good. We added
people to our cast. How we can afford ball Pierce?
I think he's cheap, Yeah.
Speaker 5 (17:58):
Fair and shot everybody chat. I was actually supposed to
host the football show initially, but then.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
They put the schedule day. I said, that's too many days,
so be out. I'll talk all these extra days. But
no ever bread. I thought you was a football show.
Speaker 5 (18:15):
He's like, yeah, I saw all these extra days, but
there was no talk about extra bread.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
And I am good at man.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
I guess the conversation is because I guess the internet
is running with the fact that while he's in a
three sixty deal, which is jargon from the music business.
A couple of interesting points I think Gilbert made is
what I'm getting from his conversation is, Yo, the Skip
Show is something that they wanted to do. They done,
they hired him. You know, we have now got them
in the green to where they're making money, and so
(18:44):
now they want to add And I get it from
an underdog fantasy standpoint. They make money from bedding. They
want to cover all sports. Gilbert, now this has become
a passion. It's fun for him. Probably he's making a
lot of money. He probably never even saw it coming.
And now we're just blossom to something and that's not
only productive, but it's passion field. And so he's now
(19:05):
adding people and have ideas for it, and probably would
have took it in a totally different direction had he
not signed that paperwork in the beginning. And I'm gonna
be honest, Gilbert made a lot of money over his career, right,
And so part of me is, if what they're reporting
is true, is making me feel a way because Gilbert
is someone who I would think understands business. I'm not
(19:26):
even gonna put think on it. He's had too much
money for such a long time. You have to learn,
so I know he knows about business and money. So
my position is, and if this is just what I'm hearing,
I'm hearing that Gilbert swapped out fifty percent of this
entire business for quote unquote a fancy word called infrastructure.
And part of this is my fault, you know what
(19:48):
I'm saying. I came in the game talking infrastructure talk,
and that's the thing. You got to give a lot
of direction and instructions next to that kind of conversation,
because it's so loaded to just start regurgitating allegedly be
saying that shit sometime and I'm saying that don't mean nothing.
What you just said don't cover you from nothing. You
(20:08):
understand me. But I know in the legal world that
gives you room to fight. But for me, people don't
really understand what the word means. They use it because
they've been it either been used on them or they've
been told what it means, and that's how they use it.
Infrastructure was one of those words, you know. I came
in with the information infrastructure we got to build this,
and da da da, Me and Larussell had a long
(20:29):
conversation about infrastructure did well appeal to a larger audience
and people really appreciated young and old, and so part
of the infrastructure conversation comes on the heels of us
coming in the game and pushing that line. You'll be
surprised what we pushed. Don't say my name because they
don't know what come with it. Right, I need y'all
to really understand this, right. I was listening to a
(20:50):
rapper the other day speak about young thug, and we said, man,
help young thug man. When it done interview with young
thug man, it nigga help young thug. They know no bank,
so they say bank and man and mother and they
help young thug. And so again, you really don't say
my name cause you don't know what he come with.
You really don't know what's going on. I'm a content creator,
(21:12):
I'm in the industry. I'm here to make content, here
to have great conversation and do interviews. But I can
feel the energy. I can feel it too. I'm saying, Oh,
they don't know what to say. They don't know how
to approach me, because you don't know if you understand me,
come with that. You don't know if a fit it
had come with that. You don't know what come with
mentioning me, and how you can even really approach me
if you ain't never been in a room with me,
(21:33):
of really been next to me. But yeah, so he
was saying, man happen young thug, I ain't have nobody
to help me, basically saying we didn't let our platform
to him in the way that we did thug with
me ushering in this infrastructure word, I think part of
the issue is people are using this word and not
really knowing what they need or what infrastructure consists of.
(21:54):
Because sometimes people are like, if when I'm hearing is correctly,
I don't want to preface this with that because I
don't want give to see this and think I'm really
trying to shoot that in but you know, it is
what it is. But they were saying that the only
thing that they offered him at the time was thumbnails
and running YouTube and things of that nature. And of
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course they'll throw a fancy word like marketing in that.
And I think Underdog, that's a strong shoe for them
because at the time, I think they had deals with
a lot of different partners. And what they'll possibly do
is cross promote your show on all of these other shows,
And I think that's a behavior that we need to
see more of in this industry. It's like, Yo, cross
promote this show in front of these people and do
(22:38):
it in a way where they can really convert some
of the listeners and make people really want to go
and check it out. I think we have room for that,
room for improvement in this business for that. But I
think maybe Underdog position themselves is being able to not
only do thumbnails titles and YouTube and things of that nature,
but we have a market in the system. It's insulated
(22:58):
with people that's already on our pay roll. We buy
slot from all of these top shows and top brands
and top shows, right, and we can integrate your brand
on that. I think that's a selling point at that time.
I think Gilber's show probably would have still went, but
fifty percent of the show for that, I just don't
think that that's a fair trade off, especially if you're
(23:18):
saying nine hundred million views in two years and y'all
y'all got fifty percent because y'all do thumbnails and titles
cross collaborated me on some insulated ads, on some partners
that you already had in place. I mean, I understand
the value. Then I do see the business lane, I
see the business route that you can go. But I
just think that maybe it could have been thirty percent,
(23:41):
twenty percent, and you, I guess, did the set And
I'm not gonna lie. That's a that's a large part
of it.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
I think.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
Course, when someone like Underdog does that knowing that it
comes out of your budget. Ultimately they own fifty percent
of the company, they'll be a little bit of wasteful spending.
But he has a beautiful set. It's at his home
that has to be beautiful because he can go down
there and be loaded with them dudes. His people can
cook for them dudes, chefs at his career right, living
(24:09):
a certain lifestyle, and so I think that's a beautiful
space for his shit to be. I haven't got that yet.
I see a lot of these podcasts. People all come
on to the house and do a pard. They'd be like, boy,
they live in a different life than we live in, right,
and not currently, but just come from different backgrounds, right,
And my castle, my mansion, my home is everything to me,
(24:30):
and I don't want to be in position where everyone
knows where that's at. Fifty percent of your company is
a bad deal if you're asking me. He's making three
four million dollars a year from this podcast at this point.
He gave them fifty percent for thumbnails titles and for
them to build him a set. I don't understand the
business acumen that would have made that decision plausible in
their minds. But again, I do understand that they position
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themselves as a market and behemoth, and they'll be able
to cross collaborate him in a way that would raise
his profile as it pertains to his show. Now, this
is the interesting dynamic. I mean, Gilbertarenas is a basketball
hall of fame if you ask me, and he's a
hall of fame with that's speaking on the sport so
it comes with a built in audience. People respect his mind.
(25:16):
I don't really think that it was necessary to cross collaborated,
And if it was, he could have paid for that
out of pocket and kept, you know, more of the
percentage of the company. Or we could have split that
expense and I give you guys twenty five percent and
will split that expense whatever it costs. Y'all, bill me
fifty percent of that and I'll pay that out of
(25:37):
my own money, and then we'll get y'all at twenty
five like you got. You gotta double back with something
on your behalf. And I think that's if you're asking
me that that step was missed in this negotiation process. Man,
seeing it that forcing the football show on him with Skip,
(25:57):
I'm pretty sure they're unhappy about him even saying that,
because now that makes the energy weird. Skip knows that. Man,
I'm over here trying to work for y'all. This dude
came out and said the show ain't really doing that
good and it feels like it's forced. And he didn't
say that, but if you read the tea leaves, that's
what you get from it. You know, Gilbert is basically like, man,
(26:17):
this show is something that they wanted to do. My
budget is going to the basketball shit. They wanted to
do their football show. So they invested in this, They
invested in that, and at some point you have to
respect it. He did business with him, and they're able
to make that decision. But making three or four million
dollars a year, I'm pretty sure that set didn't cost
that amount of money, and so I think if Gilbert
(26:39):
looked back at it, he would change his mind and
maybe let them get twenty five percent and split the
expense on the market. And if they're positioning themselves as
a marketing machine, I'd rather pay for it than give
you a percentage of the company, especially off of YouTube
channel that's already built, had hundreds of thousand subscribed, was
just sitting there and when you started to create the content.
(27:02):
And in that era, I think in one of the
first or second waves of people speaking on basketball who
played basketball owning their company or at least positioning themselves
as being the owner of the company, I think he
was either the first or second wave, and so this
shit was on fire. Salute the Gilbert. Though, we'll figure
it out, We'll watch it as it develops. Wondering how
these shows do. We're gonna position him as being one
(27:24):
of the top sports shows. I mean, I'm gonna keep
it gangster Gilbert arenas them they had one of the
top shows in the market right now. It's doing phenomenal.
Salutor Gilbert. Let's keep it moving, all right, Let's have
a conversation that really come to have today on this
up that podcast. And they put us in a tight spot,
right being a big home in the culture, someone that
(27:46):
people look at to have these kind of conversations, with
an honest backdrop, with a certain texture and a level
of understanding that most of the people in media don't have.
You don't have a responsibility on the side of my
responses and the as a dude that it may leave
on the younger generation. And so I handle some of
these things with kid gloves. And again, sometimes I don't
(28:07):
get into the intricate details. It's not necessary for me
to do. But other times it's necessary. I show you
how the sausage is made. When I find out that
some of the ingredients are being tampered with, some of
the well being is being mishandled, some of the individuals
have malicious intent or maybe emotionally driven, right, IOLs become
(28:33):
rivals sometimes. I understand what that means and how that looks.
And I want people to really understand the hate outfit
it's a cheap outfit, or the contrarian that's a cheap outfit.
To keep the beef going, that's a cheap outfit. You're
weighing cheap outfits, right, and so I want you to
elevate your understanding to have a level of conversation you
low budget add need to really get it aut together,
(28:56):
low budget ad. But I do want to have a
conversation today about NBA Young Boy. I want to celebrate
what he's doing on the road while I have a
conversation about what Academics is doing with Young Boy's brand.
As much as I enjoyed watching Young Boy and what
he's doing, I think what Academics is doing with his
brand is ill advised. And if you're asking me the
(29:16):
incentives for what he's doing, it misaligns what your objective,
which is take over the world, take over the game.
Had enough time making enemies and talking enemy talk. Look
what they got? Look what he got, Thug and Luci,
Look what he got dirt, Look what he got? Vaughn
and Young Boy and Kwondo. The understanding of some of
(29:37):
the young that why I don't be wanting some of
the child is looking in the kill and so it's
hard to justify watching academics parade NBA Young Boy and
put him out in front of fires, put him out
in front of trying to get him distant and rap
it like his And maybe he thinks he's bigging him up.
I think he's smart enough to know that he's positioning him,
(29:59):
almost putting him out there like a target. He's putting
a target on his back. And not because he's celebrating
his success. It's because some of the things that he's
speaking on in the back drop, Oh they kissing his ass,
Oh he had any way, Oh he don't forgot right.
Some of these things is if you're asking me, it's
stirring up pots that don't need to be stirred. So
I want to I want to put some context around
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some of it.
Speaker 5 (30:22):
Today.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
You hear academics today say things that will respond to
in real time. Let's start this off by taking a
look at this video on the heels of NBA Young
Boy performing in Atlanta. Let's look at the atmosphere that
academics have surrounded him and what he's what He's ultimately
putting the NBA young boy in front of pay attention.
Speaker 6 (30:43):
Oh man, young boy, kick a rap. We just gotta
claim it today, king a rap, King a rap. I
wasn't gonna stream tonight. I'm like, you know, I think
the Chad give me past a little jet like, well whatever,
it's not really Jetlake.
Speaker 3 (30:56):
Because I'm coming from a Miami whatever.
Speaker 6 (30:58):
But I'm like, you know what, you gotta get your
house in order, blah blah, you know, make sure the
moms was everything. Everything good here Pluto and you know,
the kids or whatever. So I'm like, man, damn, shit
is getting late.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
I'm like, damn, I might not. I might not be
able to get on. Like they gonna understand.
Speaker 6 (31:13):
I hope they understand, like I'm a human, right, I'll
popping tomorrow. We'll get the desk stop stream. Man, why
be performing at this song? If he could catch it
in Chicago, he called it, he caught it in Atlanta?
What the what the whole thing happened? I ain't gonna
cap this is a walkdown. We gotta keep it a
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hunted and I ain't gonna lie. The best thing I
like about why be performing at this song? There was
a few allegedly that might have been teetering, like, Yo,
put him now, Dirt locked up, Dirk locked up, even
though when Dirt was free, we were standing on business
and it was like, Yo, we can't put him but
(31:55):
Dirt locked up, Like maybe we could put him now slack, Yo,
he's to do a shut on that.
Speaker 3 (32:01):
Oh y'all, Holy number one.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
Let me say a few things because I think I
think it's my space to speak on it. I don't
like the energy that the academics is wrapping around NBA
young boy as he's on his first run with this
tour thing, as he's trying to get his feet under
him and go out there and get wreak some of
the benefits of some of the hard work he's put
in over the last decade, and he's his inability to
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be able to move across the world has guarded him
a certain fan base that had to know him outside
of just seeing him on tour. They had to learn
him intimately, and they've done that. But you hear him
speak about people teetering the line, teetering some sort of line.
He's calling it as if NBA young boy has active
(32:51):
beefs with these rap dudes. But that teetering the line.
And there was a video that I was made aware
of that academics made thinking about this situation and they
said it was in response to what he believes to
be young boys posts being liked by a little baby.
Here's that video. Pay attention is.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
Being on friends of them, man, like you know, respectful
that I think Dirk went and jail and I'm doing
their calculations, like, yo, y'all don't think of getting out
yo wabbie, what's popping by w what's the best for smirk?
Speaker 3 (33:25):
But some of y'all ras claim that y'all brothers twins
and all this dumb shit. Y'all be saying y'all are
dead wrong.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
You know, it's a sore spot for me for people
to take their platform. They're polarizing profile and they direct
people into some of these dog rooms and it be
somebody like academics that applauds the division of these rappers,
and it's a very bankrupt mindset. Number one, let me
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say this, whether this picture is AI or not, let's
set that to the side. Let's just speak on the
atmosphere that they've created around Young Boy and also created
around these other rappers. It's like, Yo, they can't even
go give young boys props. They can't even go show
up and pop out at his show. They can't even
do nothing because people gonna try to run out and say, oh,
(34:13):
he's grabbing on the young boy's flame. He trying to
be hot with young Boy.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
Nah.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
People just saluting that young dude while he's haling his business.
And I haven't asked Ug. This be poart of me
think because Thug didn't go down there cause he don't
even want to press to go along with all this shit.
All y'all gonna be talking and wonder this, that and
the third because I know they talk. I'm really behind
the scenes, so I know they talk and I know
what's going on. But at the end of the day,
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I know that it's like, oh, Academics and all these
other I think bknocklers out about who gonna show up
and they gonna call it dig right, And I thought
you didn't mess with him. And I don't know whether
Academics understands or not, but it's intended to deceive its evident.
We can see it brother, like we're looking at it.
It's not tricking them. It's not tricking it. One when
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you say that it ain't like a post whether it's
real or not. But it can't come to the show
without just showing Lord a young boy. It gotta be
a his flame and he on fire and a big
riding him. Man, you gotta really be honest about some
of these situation. It's evident his intent to deceive the public.
(35:24):
Case in point, young Thug comes out his post release
from jail album Been Gone a While, does like sixty thousand,
fifty eight fifty nine thousand something like that was his
first week numbers, and all of these blush they pearls.
Young boy do forty fifty thousand first week? Don't nobody
say anything, Well, what you expect? You know, you know,
(35:46):
Denny's conversations come with young boys, not a first week
sales artist. He has a different fan base, that's understood.
But what I'm saying is it feels like that there's
a lot of scenarios that I can point at, whereas
the rules for this and not for he, the rules
for deed and.
Speaker 5 (36:04):
Not for he.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
There's a constant contradiction in this conversation, and we're gonna
pay attention to it for about another fifteen or twenty
minutes because that's all I'm giving it today, and then
we out, but pay attention to academics saying that if
this picture is true, what a little baby liked the
post about NBA young boy, that these is wrong because
(36:26):
Dirk is in jail and they was just riding with dirt. Well,
hold on, ladies and gentlemen, I know that he know that,
we know that he was that had Takashi sixty nine
on his platform talking about slide for Vaughan and Dirk
ain't got no get back from Vaughn. Do we think
(36:46):
we forgot that? Somebody opened my eyes and helped me
understand because this is content, this is real conversation, and
it's coming from the Southern District, the executive branch. Can
somebody help me understand the academics for get that we
are the same people that know and remember that he
was the only person that allowed to Cashi six' nine
(37:07):
to campaign sliding For vaughn on his platform while being
quote unquote friends with Little. Dirk we're gonna wake it.
Up are we gonna tell the? Truth are we gonna
tell the truth because we are privileged in, media because
we're needed more than the artist is. Needed we have
(37:30):
to tell the story and we can move on from
artists to, artists to artists to. Artists but ONLY i
can understand the language Because i'm in it AND i
knee deep in. It So i'm saying, that a, brother you,
remember we remember, That you remember, that we remember low budget.
Ads pay.
Speaker 6 (37:49):
Attention king of rap, shit, man king a. Rap he
definitely kill a street.
Speaker 3 (37:55):
Rapp BUT i gotta, say AFTER i see, him AFTER
i seen, tonight.
Speaker 6 (38:01):
This was some king of rap. Shit this is how
you take the. Thrown you don't get gifted the. Thrown
you take that sh. Yo, now, GRANTED i know Somebody
i'll be, like why you ain't doing To? Chicago, look
clearly was about to do To. Chicago when you get
to a certain, point it's kind of a blood sport,
already so you can't be, like oh, NO i hope
they're not. Offended SO i Thought kendrick should have ran
(38:22):
at eight.
Speaker 3 (38:23):
Times but this shit right, here young boy, PERFORMING i
hate young. Boy. Now, GRANT i know y'all gonna keep
saying what is In? Chicago, Though.
Speaker 6 (38:37):
Atlanta and the reason why it matters For. Atlanta atlanta
been in shambles since all the rat and. RUMORS i
think they've been. TRYING i think they've been having a
secret meetings trying to figure out how to get it back.
Together came out, Recently Nah, Yo atlanta's, back and everybody.
Speaker 3 (38:52):
Was, like what did he talking?
Speaker 1 (38:52):
About?
Speaker 6 (38:53):
Huh young boy goes To atlanta and on the song
he disliked three Four atlanta rappers and he went in
their building and performed a this on to all of the.
Speaker 3 (39:02):
MEN i should have went to The atlanta.
Speaker 6 (39:04):
SHOW i would have JUST i would have paid my
money to go to The atlanta show to see who
was backstage because this energy was on some.
Speaker 3 (39:10):
Shit, Anyway, uh if you guys haven't seen.
Speaker 6 (39:15):
Mister walking down HIMSELF nba young, boy and Yes i'm calling.
Him we're not talking About kendrick and we're not talking About. Drake,
okay that's a different. Level but as of, today and
this might, CHANGE i think every three. Months this is
how fast culture. Moves we might just have a new.
(39:36):
King but as of, today Young, boy king Of. Rat
but he walked down and everybody in The Dick ron
posse who's been trying to hop From dick To, dick
who've been trying to get on his good, side who'd been, Saying,
OH i Think dirk locked, up he might not get,
out let me go rock with. Him he gave, y'all
y'all notice either y'all gonna bow down and kissed the
(39:58):
ring and he still might, do which means y'a don't
got no, pride which, whatever or y'all gonna have to
just acknowledge his. Ring and while y'all think rappers in
a lull or whatever the case, is you gonna watch
this man. Dominate and that's how you really run the.
Throne that's how you really run the. Throne everybody's, saying
rapping in a good, place you over here killing.
Speaker 1 (40:20):
It and so AS i listen to academics say these
kind of, things, like, yo you, KNOW i would have
paid to be backstage at The atlanta show to see
who was kissing the ring and these kind of. Things
have you ever been to a rap? Show all the
rappers in that, town they usually come out if it's
a popping, Artist do that mean they kissing the? Ring,
(40:40):
well it's different from you for young, Boy, well every
time we turn the. Corner it feels like that When
academics is, talking it's different For Young. Boy and that's
all THAT i want to point. Out Young boy is
a good artist with a phenomenal. Community that he has
some fans that are very, active and they're showing the
ability to have purchasing. Power our applaud that any black
(41:02):
man is getting money to come from where we come.
From they come out that. Jungle i'm having love and
respect for, that BUT i ain't having no respect for
How academics is utilizing his brand and some of these
deliberate lies and these, mishandled manufactured claims that's coming out
Of academic's. MOUTH i was With baby on two a
couple of those, dates twenty thousand people singing Rod. Wave
(41:25):
he don't even need A michael phone when he come.
Out this generation has these artists that does. This WHAT
i think is interesting THAT i think should be noted
is that this Is Young boy's first time around the.
Sun he's been in legal trouble and he's had a
very tremoltuous career as it pertains to you, know his
rap shit and his personal. Life So god, willing he'll
(41:47):
be able to go around and do this three or
four times and wrack up his hundred two hundred million
like these Young boy's been doing Rod wave on his
fifth summer doing. This Travis scott been doing his five,
years six year baby been doing this four five. Years
money bag done in one or two. Years we talking
about headline tours by theyself can go out and take
(42:09):
care of the. Business we don't even got to speak
About drake And kendrick And kanye and those, guys of,
course but we're just talking ABOUT Nba Young boy's peers.
Now i'm not even sure That dirk was able to do,
it BECAUSE i think when he went on, TOUR i
think he went with what it was It Jake. COLE
i think he popped out With Ja cole at a few.
Days i'm not sure If dirk hasn't been able to
(42:32):
even go on tour like that and rock those building
state The. STATE i could be, wrong And i'm sure
If i'm, wrong they'll put it in the. Comments but
this IS Nba Young boy's first, time and he's wreaking
the benefits of being away from his fans for so.
Long AND i think when they come dressed up and
with green flags and this, that AND i think that's
a very very very healthy relationship that he has with his,
(42:55):
audience somewhat like What nicky. Has you, KNOW i even
argue that thought as that with his. Audience and that's
the comparison That i'm gonna, make is, that you, know
some of these people have a coult like. Following but
let's just entertain the. Fact let's just say If baby
did like the. Post and again we don't know if
that's fake or. Not The internet just says anything and
he does. Anything but let's Say baby did like a
(43:18):
post FROM Nba Young. Boy we are in a scenario
where some of these media outlets are being critical Of,
luching Thug in and their. BEEF i, mean it's the same.
Pattern there's a pattern of behavior by some of these
people that is, recognizable and if you pay, attention and
you pay attention to, patterns you can unlock these. Dudes.
MAN i Like Young, BOY i like a lot of these.
(43:39):
ARTISTS i hit these one. TIME i Hear alex one
time he followed. Me i'll follow. HIM i enjoy Young.
BOY i send my blessings when he was locked. UP
i Hear alex one TIME i didn't hit him no
more about no concert and, this that and the. THIRD
i ain't one of them kind of AND i can
make a call and have one of the rappers all top.
Himself you know What i'm. Saying BUT i just ain't
(44:01):
one of them kind of, nicks you understand. Me let
the young boy shine that boy first trip around the.
Sun let him go get his money and be happy
and celebrate with his fans and embrace the love and.
Feel this is what a ROLE i feel.
Speaker 5 (44:15):
Like.
Speaker 1 (44:15):
Bro drop the, album gone to get the, bag come,
back do it again this high. Go, yeah they just
subbing this young in the. Game let him get his,
points stop hating and stop putting him out there in foul.
Trouble you got these false ass big homies with these
media platforms like academics throwing young boy in the middle
(44:37):
of the. Crossfire boy he performing the dish In. Atlanta
now he being lowyer to his. Fans my, Knucke he
ain't coming with that kind of. Energy he ain't even known.
That let the boy go get a hundred two hundred.
Million let him have this busing boy. Nig this is y'all,
in y'all, back, y'all you know you staring up shit
you ain't gotta participate. In always tell him when they
show up to the, Fight i'm riding with. Him pop
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it out, off but don't pop it out from the.
House don't pop it out from the. House pop it
out from right here in the, middle Lou AND i
ain't even Ask. SPIDER i ain't Asked doug. This and
a part of me was thinking this despite her not
go down there and with young boy just because he
didn't want to be in the news and a part
(45:19):
of the story cause he lame as gonna be like
old thug down there with young. Boy he need that,
boy he definitely need the he need, him, like couldn't
really like staying away from all that kind of. Shit
LIKE i don't want y'all even looking at this ship like. That,
MAN i don't even want to, MAN i don't even
want him looking at this ship like. That SO i
ain't gonna need. Now, see this is WHAT i don't
(45:42):
like about the atmosphere of the. Culture it's a taardown
coach with a fine tooth. COMB i didn't even like
the fact That Aiden ross called thug gonna stream ask
him About Young boy. Tour Aiden ross shooting and called
thug gonna scream on stream about? That what IF i
had a problem With Young BOY i didn't want the
world to know. About but see that's the young boys
(46:03):
that's in. Streaming they don't really know that this shit
get deep behind the, scenes so they'll just call you on, Stream,
hey you going to The Young boy? Concert and THEN
i gotta, say knowing, now that turns into, something and
that turns into a, conversation you know What i'm. Saying
so when you love someone and you got love for,
him you stay away from that kind of shit or
you text him you going to the young boy? Thing
(46:24):
you know What i'm, Saying you don't got to call
them for the. Stream that's in my. Opinion and, AIDEN
i know you're, young you're doing your. THING i like
you ain't no, Beef But i'm just speaking on behalf
of what should happen and what shouldn't happen in my,
opinion from my, perspective from my vanished, point from my,
Viewpoint i'm having the eagles, Eye So i'm on top
of this thing. Watching But god forbid that like academics
(46:48):
and his bullshit internet, culture we keep up from going
to holler at young boy when young boy on a
thug for a long. Time that slime, shit that, stug
that lime green, shit that's they. Sit he influenced young.
Boy young boy always have catered it with what thug
has said and his position in the. Marketplace that green
(47:09):
flag didn't start In New. Orleans it then started from young.
Boy FOUR k trade. Did but that slime shit make
slime great, again and slime cry and all of. That that's.
Thug so. Picture if thug couldn't go holler this little
brother because some of the don't lie gonna. Say he
trying to suck his juice.
Speaker 3 (47:30):
Up, man he needed that.
Speaker 1 (47:31):
Help, Now, nah Just i'm coming with my little. Brother
he bringing me out on stage at the end of the.
DAY i know this climate is affecting. SHIT i know
that this bullshit that people like academics and some of
these other people are putting out. There and ALSO i
rather you, know we sit in front of each other
and had a conversation right in front of each, other
(47:52):
me and, you the, security, whoever bring whoever you won't
give a fool you. Brain we can turn it into
whatever you want to turn it. To BUT i want
to have a conversation about some of these topics BECAUSE
i want to see the. VIBRATION i want to see
as you playing or is this a serious thing you?
Doing pay.
Speaker 6 (48:10):
ATTENTION nba young boy showed up To. ATLANTA i don't
know too much of the ties that THAT Nba young
boy has To. Atlanta we all do Know atlanta does
mean something to.
Speaker 3 (48:24):
Him, ACTUALLY i think he used to live In. ATLANTA
i do know in.
Speaker 6 (48:29):
Recent times people kind of reflect On atlanta and WHAT
i think Of. ATLANTA i, felt, like you, know in
his feud With, Dirk dirk moved To atlanta and kind
of The atlanta rappers Adopted dirk in their circle of.
Friends and basically because they With, Dirk atlanta And atlanta rap.
(48:55):
Scene i'm talking just a, rappers not the, fans because
everybody got fans, everywhere they became almost opposed to whatever
yb at going. On that's the, fact, right we could
reasonably say that right, Anyway it just shows you how
the ties.
Speaker 3 (49:13):
Changed by the, way this Was atlanta is a place
Where King van was.
Speaker 6 (49:17):
Killed they had a feud as, well And atlanta is
a place where you, know, Subsequently Little tim who who
did the, murder was never, convicted and the charges kind
of went, away and from my, understanding went away under
the pretense and the acceptance of the stands your ground
(49:40):
My michaelow the stans your ground, statue which means a
it's the fa fa fo mentality round find. OUT i
was a bit shocked that he got the key of the. City,
NOW i want to tell you all about the keys
of the. City these Give Nba young the key to the.
(50:00):
City who got this?
Speaker 3 (50:02):
Song this and half in the. City half of this
is in the. City don't like is.
Speaker 6 (50:06):
Catching hollow tips and seven six two's is being sent
at traniums over this.
Speaker 3 (50:14):
Beef whether you knew it or, not that's a. Fact
so this is a whole another.
Speaker 6 (50:18):
Level this type of shit gotta be in the realm
of JULIOFOLIO youngi And ace some shit well you know is.
Speaker 3 (50:28):
Deceased it's. Different SO i want to make.
Speaker 6 (50:31):
Y'ALL i want you to understand that When i'm speaking about,
this this, Song i'm not trying.
Speaker 3 (50:36):
To be little no other this.
Speaker 6 (50:37):
Song, now we knew that the dirt disrespect and the
von disrespect was definitely gonna, happen because that's the majority
of the premise behind this. Song but there's a couple
others who caught some. Strays that's WHAT i was always
trying to, see especially now he In, atlanta but the
(51:00):
young boy tuck his tail for The atlanta Super, thugs
or is it Now atlanta is seen as So atlanta
is Like? Disneyland, Right atlanta Like. Disneyland that is like
man running.
Speaker 3 (51:15):
On all of. Them let's just see out in your own.
Place this is.
Speaker 6 (51:18):
Crazy that's WHY i wanted to see so The dark
and Von PARK i was, like it's gonna. Happen you,
know if it Was, CHICAGO i would care more about
The dirk And Vonan. PARK i was just caring about
a couple of subliminals to like The Atlanta oh hearing
(51:44):
the entire crowd chant used to With gucci TILL i
seen him with them.
Speaker 3 (51:52):
Pussing i'm, like where we? At this is like a location.
Check you got to like, swibo oh the oh we're In?
Atlanta oh hell.
Speaker 6 (52:03):
ON i used to think that was the twenty One savage,
this but it's. Not that's A apparently that's a kayla
BECAUSE i think twenty One savage Had boordi some.
Speaker 1 (52:13):
Shit so academics proceeded to make a you know point
ABOUT Nba Young boy performing is this song In, atlanta
which is you, KNOW i guess that is. Newsworthy that's not,
worthy you know What i'm. Saying he performed the song
where he took shots at a few. People you, know
there was a time step in his life where him
And dirk was into it and making songs to one.
(52:36):
Another and, AGAIN i don't want this to be understated
young boys on a. RUN i heard academics also compare
Young boys performing of that song In stay F marina
To Gucci man's performing of The, truth AND i think
that was those pale in. COMPARISON i think there's a
distance between what happened With Gucci man Performing truth VERSUS
(53:03):
nb a young boy PERFORMING i Hate Young boy In
State Farm. Arena number, one there's a security clearance process
In State Farm arena that's gonna be second to none
when you have someone with the history That Young boy,
has or any rapper for that, note we are dealing
With Fulton, county who is in particular one of the
more strict counties on not only, lyrics BUT i think
(53:26):
they tend to hate rappers and their objective is to
run out the rappers out of the. Town with that being,
Said Gucci man was in a small. Club what can
grab him if they wanted, to can rush the stage
if they wanted, to things of that. Nature but no
one is coming for violence for Young. Boy people are
celebrating the fact, That, yo this is his first, Tour
(53:48):
this is his first time with the ability to really
wreak some of the benefits of what he's built all
of these. Years his negotiation power for the last three
or four or five year before he blew up like
he actually blew up DURING covid and things of that,
nature his negotiation power didn't even consider. Touring and even
if it, did from his, perspective it's no way he
(54:10):
could have gaged. It he had no real understanding of
what that looks. Like, now the labels probably. Did the
people on the other side probably knew that there was
a growing hunger for people to See Young boy on,
tour and so they may have understand it from a financial,
Standpoint But i'm not sure that he understood it or
his team understood, it because they never incorporated in their balance.
(54:31):
Sheet it wasn't. Incorporated his shit was made off streaming
YouTube things of that. Nature and he was doing quite.
Well he was a great streaming. Artist he's a legendary.
Act but we also want to put on the record
That dirk has performed his little dish to Young boy
and a lot of these crowds and popped out on
(54:51):
this and performed. It and also want to be, Clear
academics is drawing this line and saying, that, yo y'all Chose,
dirk don't with Young, BOY i won't dead the. Beef
but on top of, That academics is drawing this line
when he would crank up every one of his streams
listening To Eye, high which is a young boy. This,
now y'all fact check that and stop me When i'm,
(55:13):
lying cut me off When i'm. Lying and so it's
rules for d and not for. Heat these dudes are
making these manufactured, statements and their justification behind it is
if you're asking, me in, particular with a couple of these,
RAPPERS i truly Believe academics has his feelings. Hurt some
of these dudes may have shined him or didn't respect,
(55:35):
him and he never has gotten over. That but, bro
you gotta let that. Go these dudes dealing with a
lot of people coming at. Them a lot of different things.
Happening sometimes you catch on the bad, Foot but you
don't have to be emotionally involved with every time you
make a take about. Two ain't even on the. Internet,
dudes don't even go back and forth with. You you
steady more't making takes and making takes and making takes
(55:57):
every chance you. Get you fishing for, stories you putting
two and two, together and trying to do, this that
and the. Third none of it really is. Substantial none
of it makes. Sense and then the hypocrisy in this
position that you take about this dirt thing is mind
blowing to. Me the interview in which he repped About
(56:18):
Kwando rondo's homeboy being killed dirt allegedly is what they're.
Saying he reped on that shit in your, interview according
to the federal. Government so you And dirk had a
personal relationship where he'll come and say those kind of
things on your. Platform you Called dirk friends so many,
times in particular when young boy was going at, you.
(56:40):
Academics young boy was shitting on, you, academics and you
had winning holded up With dirk and started this lovey
dovey relationship that you must have forgot about now that
you backstage and you'd done been to ten different shows
while you're telling rappers that they can't squash the beef
with young boy and you clearly playing the fifty yard.
Line you won't leave the fifty yard line if you wide.
(57:03):
Open dirk has a relationship with, you and what she'll
talk to you from behind the wall on another on
call and get in. Trouble dirk did an interview with,
you and you asked him all these different questions about
all these different, things some in which pops up in
his federal indictment as we. Speak you allowed TO costi
six 's nine to come on your platform and continue
(57:24):
with sleeve speak about slide For vaughn in the climbing
What dirk was out here confused they done Killed. Vaughn
he dealing with his, brother dealing with shit out Of.
Chicago they turning on, him they saying, this and he
you is letting get on your, Platform holland he ain't
slid for Von you was the only to interview.
Speaker 3 (57:43):
Him you was the only that'll put his shit.
Speaker 1 (57:45):
Up and you would take your platform that a lot
of the coaches tapped, into and you would direct people
to Ta kashi six,' Nine Disrespecting. King vaughn whether that
be him wearing a jacket with him spray painted on
It With little dirk's look. Like, It man, come on
we don't have. Revisionist history but if you ain't, paying
attention somebody can get over. On you lucky, For me i'm.
(58:09):
Paying attention one thing we know about. Young boys he
gonna keep. It real he gonna say what. He feels
and so if his bullsh, is boosy if it's heird
man is, third man if, it's academics, IS like i
ain't expecting young boy to do nothing but say how.
You feel You see boosy. Pop out you see they
can bury the. Hatch it you See bird man riding,
(58:32):
With him you see they can bury the. Hatch. It
yo black men can do more than just kill. Each
other we won't gotta celebrate chaos. Like, THIS man i
think it's irresponsible for you to try to marginalize these
rappnings and bag a bit to a corner. Like this
ain't nobody saying need to. Be pushovers if it's on
their journey to get in the room with a, squash
something let him do that and let him do it
(58:54):
with our criticism for niggas that they never been in
position to have to squash. Nothing right these are some
of the younger gentlemen who were growing up they couldn't
get their hands on the gun if they, Needed one
and now they're positioning people to go and make these
kind of decisions on behalf or whatever culture that they
don't even. Participate in It's like monday morning quarterback and
(59:17):
Me and dirk don't got the. Best relationship you. UNDERSTAND
me I think dirk is holding his HEAD how i
think he doing his. TIME legit i don't like the
way his case looking. Right now it feels like they're
Aggressively approaching dirk in a way That just i'm. Uncomfortable
WITH and i say that they be IN, the feds
the federal government for people who do Not know dirk.
(59:37):
Is Inconcrated but i'm just saying the real is.
Speaker 4 (59:41):
The real.
Speaker 1 (59:44):
If young boys gonna have, the energy he gotta have
the energy for. Academics too ain't no way he done
got this cool with academics and academics was the need was?
Love it dovid, with dirt he WILL plan i high every.
Single stream he will RUN. Around otfi what make him
any different than he rapped that he'd be talking, About
(01:00:05):
right and it's just. A conversation i think it's important
to have and it's just if you're. Asking me it's up.
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