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Speaker 1 (01:11):
There's a lot that happening in media.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
We've been speaking about a lot of things, but I
do want to speak directly to what just happened with Diddy.
I think two days ago we got back in and
we spoke about Diddy being involved in a video that's
released in which he assaulted Cassie at a hotel in
twenty and sixteen. Now today we want to examine a
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lot of the specifics around this video and the following
actions after the video, but we want to keep everything
in context, and today I would like to let everyone
notice watching this, by no means are we apologizing for
what someone done, even if we examine some of these
things in a way that may be kind of uncomfortable
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for someone that found themselves in these scenarios. I want
apologize beforehand for any woman that may be watching this
and feel that way.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
I do have a mother.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
That's really dear to me, and women in my life
that's dear to me that I know watch me all
the time. And so for the sake of content, scenario specifics,
podcasting and all of the things that fall in that category. Today,
we're going to examine this from a multitude of directions.
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So again I want to be clear on that and
let that act as some sort of a disclaimer. By
no means are we trying to cast any hurt or
doubt on anything that took place. But we will examine
those things in a way. All right, Before we get
to the diddy thing, let me get a few things
out the way that I want to speak about. You know,
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on my journey, man, one thing I want the youngsters
to know, people behind me, people over me, is that
when you're chasing a dream, or you on the journey,
you chasing after something that God is placed on your heart,
it come with a certain level of responsibility, come with
a certain level of burden that you gotta also carry
with all that money you expecting to get, with all
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that opportunity in favor. Right, that's there's a there's a
level of burden that goes with that mental burden. And
so when I when I'm on this journey and I
bump into people for me, I always think that they
gonna see me by myself doing my thing. All these
cameras are all this equipment, right, and they gonna respect
the journey.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
They gonna know.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
They looking at a man that any event that all
he'll break loose, he'll strike out for his family and
figure something out if nothing else. You see me by myself,
You know that I go on a voyage by my
mother self to feed my family. What you as a witnessing,
is me travel all around this country to feed my
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mother family.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
You don't never see me in a club.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
You ain't ever saw me buy a car online and
act like you ain't never seen none of that. You
watching a man with the tools that he can use
go on the road.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
To feed his family.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
And oftentimes I still run in the scenarios where it
feels like they disregard to work. I hear people off
the time say, man, it's blood, sweat and tears in it,
and I know what that's like, and they act like
they know what it's like.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Sometimes you hear talking.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
This blood sweating, tears talk, and they ain't got nothing
in the game. They ain't got no skin in the game,
nor do they got no respect for the game.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
When you put skin in the game, you leave a game,
even with.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
A loss, with respect for the game, because you know
what it takes to get there. Tell me why I
gotta deal with the industry in which I feel like
people tend to disrespect the gain.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
But I noticed something. Everybody that got money and get.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
It the same way, and I think that's the mistake
that we find women making. As long as he got money,
I put him in a boss scenario. Now he's a baller.
He got money. How did he get it? He may
have got it from his mother, He may have got
his from his father. I got mine with dirt under
my fingernails. I went on the concrete and busted open
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to get mine. It's different because there's texture that come
along with the way I got mine, And the boss
thing is a texture thing, it ain't a money thing.
Dig what I'm saying. The idea that everything that I've
ever did is been positive or made a significant jump
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in my life will be a mistake for people to think.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
I always tell.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
These and I gotta be louder because even the people
y'all got in position ain't really living what they talking.
And so I failed several times along the way, and
I still fail. There's things I want to do that
ain't going the way I need them to go. But
you don't see it because I'm a hustler. You looking
for me to tell you it's a fail You need
to look at how hard I'm sweating, because failure is
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the sweat of the hustlers. I'm gonna say that again.
Failure is the sweat of the hustlers. Everything ain't gonna
go as playing, but I'm gonna plan to keep everything going.
And so I try not to speak about some of
these because I want to build this thing so righteous,
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the wall, it lasts a hundred years. I don't really
like to dow dirt on it, and I don't really
like to get in the mud with it. I just
want people to know out there that I respect the
journey and in this industry because people's been coddled for
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so long, and they got so many companies involved with
what they do, and they're moving around and they tend
to have a attitude towards the work that you know
they never did the work. Even in this game, you
will travel to do an interview with a guy. You'll
pay him to do the interview. And this is not
me because I don't pay the due interviews, but you
will travel pay to do an interview with these guys
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and the young men in this world come up to
me and they say long. They won't even respond to
me no more. They won't even post it and let
their fans know it's out. What I've came to notice
and tell these young boys that's following me is that.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
In the streets we call this penny pitching. What a
lot of these little dudes is doing.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
They trying to squeeze every dollar they can get out
that pain, and so sometimes you become a victim of
their greediness.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Just certain things right.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
I want to tell certain rap niggas things right, because
anytime I talk dog, it's some real ones in the game.
And a lot of times why I don't just cast
a widen it and shit on our rappers because I
know some real ones, some guys that really is like
some of the men right that stand on their word,
take care of their people.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
All these different things.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
But as we're dealing with this Diddy situation, it makes
me re examine what this entertainment industry does to you.
You'll have people in this entertainment industry who aura adopts
this like God complex, and I refuse to believe that
money does this. I believe this is a fame thing
because it in the streets with money. It's money. It's money,
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ain't I think it's a fame thing. I think the
more these guys become known, the less that they are
in touch with the real world. It's like on some
get out, like you think you better than somebody. I
respect your grind when you bring some money to me,
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when you come from with me, when you come at
your alement to come with me, I respect your grind, homie.
This is why street hates certain reps, these low level
streets done got some money in rep and out of nowhere.
They think they better than the street, like they above
speaking to a nigga, or above retweeting a nigga or
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helping him with his business or whatever it may be.
What they'll come to realize is is when all he'll
break lose their fame and their money.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
Don't do nothing for you. The police can't even do
nothing for you. When them goons come out there. You
you can.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Tell the ones that really come from the streets and
understand that money requires an army.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
There's a lot of sucker ass South.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
A nigga's running around making a lot of money that
ain't got no way to defend it outside the police
and they be running around doing suckers. If another push
your mean line out and make your labels. It's been
two hundred thousand a month trying to protect you all
across the country. Or you're gonna run back to them
same street. I ain't been talking to wrap show back
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up in the hood. It's been five years. He ain't
send no money to nobody, don't work with nobody. But
now he's on his ass. He back in the neighborhood
needs some help.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
Now. We don't honor that.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Where I'm from, the industry will create a barrier around
some of these individuals to make to make them think
they can get away with sucker shit with no recourse.
But there's names in this industry that push a line
where you know just because you're that don't mean nothing.
Like when you come to certain people town. They can
really make it uncomfortable in that town. They say, when
you in California, dog, no matter what you do, somebody
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is connected to a gang bang. You live over here
in this high rise that costs a million dollars, but
the receptionists make fifteen dollars an hour. They got taken
the tradshot make twenty two dollars an hour.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
Yet the crib to me, But.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
It's a there's still got to move around there to
help the everyday environment continue to be livable. In things
of that nature, that's gonna be able to relate certain messages. Third, yeah,
he live in thirteen B. It's like, Bro. Then it
gets serious, bro, and the money cannot hide.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Right.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
A man can only blame himself whenever he's involved in
something that has treated him unfavorable. You can only blame yourself.
Your expectation was a bit too high. And so that's
something I struggle with, is managing expectations because I expect
everybody to kind of be like me. I expect everybody,
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if not to be like me, to respect what you
see when you deal with me, know that you're looking
at a man that will do and continues to do
things that you wouldn't do in regards to taking risks
with his own money, in regards to not being afraid
to do certain things.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Bro. Like a lot of these dudes they play I
ain't doing no plan.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
I also see the hood acting in a certain way too,
where it's like, even when I look at Chicago sometimes
I'll be like, yo, come out and tell all the
hood stories for thirty five thousand views until who killed who?
Got seventy thousand views? Brother, that don't even amount to
no money. You done blew the whole hood up about that, y'all.
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Keep starring wars, y'all really, because it's a form of
boasting to be out talking about murders and for thirty
forty fifty thousand views. It's crazy to me. But even
deeper than that. Now, you gotta be careful if you're
a young dude that's involved in any kind of click
neighborhood anything you slip, gotta be careful because somebody.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Around you gonna thing on the interview.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Trying to get forty and fifty thousand views and getting
paid five hundred dollars A thousand dollars, I don't give
if you're getting paid thirty five hundred dollars.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Certainly you die with certain supposed to die with.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
When you come up the way we come up, y'all
gonna start putting it on the internet. And it's cool,
But I notice they do the most when they next
to white people. I remember somebody telling me Loom, I
don't think some of them guys gonna come and do
that shit on your platform because they just ain't gonna
even try.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
But they're getting next to a square.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
And go to talking about older neighborhood shit, and I'll
be saying, Yo, how is this helping anybody? No matter
what the Internet look at you like, it can be altered.
We're dealing with Diddy. It can be switched, it can
be changed. You're putting a little too much stock in
the stock market. Let's deal with this Diddy situation, really,
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because I want to talk about a few things. Number One,
we're gonna deal with the video that's out again because
we kind of looked at it last time. But I
want I want you to take a look at a
few things on the video. And then Diddy has now
came out and apologized. We're gonna deal with all of
this and bring you some information from my pony, and
let's pay attent.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
New surveillance footage obtained exclusively by CNN appears to corroborate
some of the allegations of abuse against music mogul Sean
Diddy Combs. The video, captured on multiple cameras, shows Comb's
assaulting his then girlfriend Cassie Ventura in a hallway at
a Los Angeles hotel in March twenty sixteen. A lawsuit
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filed by Ventura in November last year and settled the
next day, referenced actions that seem to match those scene
in this video. There is no audio. According to the complaint,
Homes became extremely intoxicated and punched Miss Ventura in the face,
giving her a black eye, which, according to the lawsuit,
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prompted Ventura to try and leave the hotel room. The
surveillance video, obtained by CNN begins as she enters the hallway.
The complaint says as she exited, mister Colmbs awoke and
began screaming at Miss Ventura. He followed her into the
hallway of the hotel while yelling at her. The complaint
goes on to say he grabbed her and then took
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glass vases in the hallway and threw them at her.
In the surveillance video, Combs can be seen grabbing Ventura
in throwing her to the ground. As Ventura lies on
the ground, Combs then kicks her twice and attempts to
drag her on the floor back to the hotel room.
Ventura is seen picking up a hotel phone. Comb seems
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to walk back to the hotel room, then returns and
appears to shove her in a corner. Moments later, he
can be seen throwing an object in her direction. According
to Ventura's now sett a lawsuit, the pair began dating
several years after they met in two thousand and five.
They parted ways in twenty nineteen. Comb's attorney said the
decision to settle was in no way an admission of wrongdoing.
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Ventura declined to comment on the video, but her attorney
told CNN, the gut wrenching video has only further confirmed
the disturbing and predatory behavior of mister Comb's words cannot
express the courage and fortitude that Miss Ventura has shown
in coming forward to bring this to light. The video
hasn't been seen publicly before and comes on the heels
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of a series of civil lawsuits allegend Comb's involvement in
sex trafficking and sexual abuse, allegations Combs has repeatedly denied,
and in December twenty twenty three statement Combs responded to
the claims in all the lawsuits, saying, sickening allegations have
been made against me by individuals looking for a quick payday.
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Let me be absolutely clear, I did not do any
of the awful things being alleged. Two days after this
video published exclusively on CNN, Combs issued in apology.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Oh so they updated that. We're gonna deal with the
apology separate, right. I want you all to take a
look at the fact that they are literally putting those
two cases together, the little Rob and the Cassie thing.
I think the payment was in acknowledge, meant that Cassie's
had some truth into it.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
But the little Rod thing is where a.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Lot comes in at Now it sounds like CNN maybe
going only off Cassie's lawsuit, because I think cassie lawsuit
also had some of these things in it. But the
little Rod thing blurs the lines for a lot of people.
So let me deal with a couple of things on
this The playboard Monica that did he's been running with
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is now biting him in the ass. You know, I
hear people throw jay z name around. Jay Z's a
different scenario. He doesn't wear this lady's man on his
sleeve at that age. I think at this point of
time that is now going to bite him in the ass.
Didd it should have been somewhat married by now, right
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for all intensive purposes when we deal with businessman of
that statue with that amount of money, that should be
a married family that he has over there with that
kind of money, because I mean the risk involved with
being looked at at this playboy guy that does these
parties and that I don't know why he felt like
that was a great image in his fifties. And so
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you see Diddy come out shortly after this and apologized
it was a grave mistake. In my opinion, that'll be
the reason he really gets indicted. And now you apologize
for the video that they haven't even said anything about
the video. They haven't even told you the idea behind
the video. You came out and apologized before they can
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tell you their thoughts on it. So now when they
painted like you drug her back in that to have
sex with her, it's really nothing you can say because
you've placed yourself on that video.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
This was a mistake.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
The first thing I would have said if I was Diddy,
And this is no disrespect to Cassie because I did
pay you thirty million dollars. Now this is a fight
for my life, Like if I do need to address
you in the future. I will, but with the federal
investigation going on with y'all due respect, you don't get
that kind of leverage with me. I don't shoot you
thirty million dollars and then send myself to prison because
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I feel bad. I'm sorry that may sound a way,
and I do not mean any disrespect when I say
these words. But I'm telling you, a man that's in
a fight for his life against the system need to shut.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
His motherfucking mouth up.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
First thing that he posted done was let his lawyers
address that video in court. If it's trying to be
used deactivate socials go off the grid, it's time. It's
time to go in that bunker, my nigga. So now
you're gonna help these people be able to paint you
as someone that drug this lady back in that to
have sex with her. And why do I say that again?
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I keep telling y'all this video. He's naked in this video,
He's literally naked. He can't say jumped out of shower.
He got socks on, ain't no soap on him, ain't
no water on him. I know, nigga, look like glistenering
coming up out there shower. This is a man that
was in there naked for whatever reason. And listen, we're
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gonna have jokes here today. This is a podcast. We're
gonna have jokes. I gotta preface this because this isn't
a laughing matter, but we all creating content.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
We send our prayers out to Cassie.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
But if I was diddy nigga, first thing I would
have been saying, See, this is.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
The thing I gotta learned. I done learned this off.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
Dealing with the police for so many years. You got
to learn to play to the camera. See really, everybody
moving around like the police gotta move around now.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
I remember back in the day when the.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Police would be really overzealous and they had their cameras on,
and they knew that the cameras was on. So while
you already on the ground and ain't moving, guess what
the police hunted. Stop resisting, stop resisting, stop moving You
saying damn, I ain't even moving. But they doing that
cause they know they recording, They know their camera on.
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You know, That's why way before they see a gun, gun, gun,
they holling gun. That's the justifying court that I saw
a gun.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
You heard me holler.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
You see what I mean, and so now if I'm diddy,
I'm telling them, Oh, they ain't got no audio. So
what you would see guys do now is they'll do
like that scenario with did it.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
They'll be running down the highway. Now you can't take
it me out of there like at now you got
my watch? You know they be you done tried to
stab me?
Speaker 2 (21:26):
He hollering shit, you know, to make it seem like
she done something, same way the police do. Yeah, I
learned that from the police running down and saying.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
Now you just stabbed me. You gonna stab me?
Speaker 2 (21:39):
You just got to start saying shit for the camera.
That's what the police do. But that dude ain't got
no sober water, nothing on it.
Speaker 4 (21:46):
Man.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
Man, what you in there doing, niggad You just sitting there?
What you're doing in there? You just sitting that nigga
like that. You know what I'm saying. But on a
serious note, that playboy momause this doesn't leave him any
plausible deniability, Like you cannot say you wasn't having sex
with a lot of women. Nobody to look at you
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and say, yo, no, man, he's wholesome, like he got
the kids. He be at soccer games, with his wife.
And they not looking at you like they look at
you like the bad boy, the playboy. That's the image
you in your sixties. Black men gotta learn to grow
up too.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
Man. Ain't nothing wrong with being fly sixty, But man
still running around talking about I'm a playboy and I
want three four women. Man, keep that to yourself at sixty.
Do your thing, but keep it to yourself at sixty,
though nigga been bragging by fucking the whole forty years.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
Man, you got to keep it to yourself a sixty.
The arrogance of this game, though, the arrogance of this game.
I hear people when they talk about their video say, Yo,
when men spend that kind of money, they feel entitled,
They feel a sense of ownership over you when they
spend that kind of money on you.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
And while I agree with that, I said's a mistake.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
Even if it is a change, man, this is the
rough thing about life, even if you're one hundred percent changed. Man,
that's who she remembers you as, that guy right there,
And if you ask me, it seems to be pills involved,
because pills that make you have real mood swings, like
extreme mood swings, and so what happens is it just
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seems like people have dealt with this dude in a
way where they have some memories that they call nightmare.
I also think Diddy overestimated black people's involvement with whatever
he felt was coming down the turnpike. You know, we
saw Diddy going on this black this, black that, black man,
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black this, and for.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
Me, it didn't stick.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Not that we didn't recognize that he was branding, you know,
black involvement in corporations and things like that. That's a
fact that he was trying to do that, But I
don't think that shields you of anything. In the same
way if you are a police officer get into something,
you know, if you are a part of some of
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these other groups and you get into something, what happens
is they're mobilize behind you. Like you see Trump and
like you see some of these other you know, far
left or far right groups, They're mobilize on behalf of
the mission. It feels like Diddy was trying to position
himself in black culture as being some sort of staple
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that's here to help black people, and I think he
overestimated black people's involvement in organize, not for real issues,
but for these kind of issues, because Black people as
a whole have trouble mobilizing in order organize it for
one cause. Right when you talk about the voter turnout,
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when you talk about some of these different statistics that's out,
it shows that black people may or may not mobilize
and organize in a way that's effective to their own people. Now,
other people making get them out with a little I
remember they was offering hamburgers for COVID shots. This is
them trying to mobilize black people. This ain't for the whites.
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A hamburger for the this ain't for the whites.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
Man.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
They're trying to mobilize niggas to come get the shot.
And in my opinion, what you deal with is it's
black people in particular on the Internet.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
There's a high percentage of.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
Our culture that their biggest attribute is criticizing. Their biggest
attribute is just capitalizing, like off entertainment downfalls and fall
offs and things like that. And when I say that,
I mean that YO will create some funny memes about you.
Now you was o gud we ate with you. You
were helping us whatever the case may be. But we
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gonna make these means you gonna catch these jokes like
black people. You're gonna catch these jokes now, you know.
And sometimes ain't shit funny. Sometimes ain't time for no jokes,
And sometimes the jokes can lead the thing. And so
after this video was out right, I'm sitting in the
house and I go up on Instagram and put the
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Downfall of Diddy documentary with TMZ. For those of you
that don't know, TMZ just dropped the documentary The Downfall
of Didd it in the midst of the investigation.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
He ain't even been charged yet. I mean, there's a
lot happening.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
And when TIMZ is doing stuff like that, this is
the roll out for your jail time. You know how
when a rapper got an album coming out and they
do roll out, so they go do an interview here,
interview there. That's what these docuseriies have become. When they
start rolling them out, that's right before the jail time.
So if I was Diddy, I'll be kind of spooked
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out seeing that kind of shit come out. TMZ has
connections sometimes where they know things that other people don't know.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
I believe did it to be powerful.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
Enough to know something's coming, But TMZ not involved in movies.
TMZ saw a market that Netflix had tapped into.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
They did it to kill it.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
They did it the Weinstein, They did it to a
couple of different people. And so what happens is TMZ
gets involved in say, yo, we know this story, We're
involved in that culture.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
We gonna put it out.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
We ain't gonna let Hulu get it, because if you don't,
if you don't know, Hulu was the people they did
the Takashi six ' nine one. They did like just
these docuseries about the rise and fall of someone in
our culture. So they're serving this weird thirst that people
have for understanding celebrity lives. There's been a thirst since
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the beginning of my life in which people want to
know what celebrity lifestyle is. Like I remember they had
a paper called The End Wow, and some of these
like tabloid kind of papers that shits just moved to
the Internet now, like academics is the Enquirer. You see
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what I'm saying is where it's like it may not
be all truth, but somebody might have said it, somebody
might have fed it. But I think it's interesting that
even academics went on like a five, six, seven, eight
day marathon about Diddy's Little Rod lawsuit, and then that
same lawyer gets a him, No, no, no, not this time, nigga.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
You following through? You know, cover that like you cover
did it? Nigga?
Speaker 2 (28:40):
That's what they said. I heard Santana say cover that
like you cover did it?
Speaker 1 (28:44):
Nigga.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
I even think when we talk about Sean comes P
did it. I think he was involved with understanding he
needed the narrative to switch as well. I just think
he wasn't aggressive enough. He didn't really put no money
in revot to build that shit up like he She
supposed to start dropping documentaries of him helping save people lives,
creating a narrative around his music, lifestyle and how he
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done it, going to therapy, letting the people see certain
shit of it. But he kind of stayed away from
it and distanced itself from the media platform. And the
narrative is what the most important thing is. That's what's
killing him now.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
All narrative.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
Ain't nobody really seeing no hardcore evidence. It's all narrative,
And you talking, you niggas don't know how to really
shut your miles. You would have thought that Diddy would
have done a better job with brand than seen that
he had revot. It's no way that you have revot
and you let the narrative get out of control like that.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
But y'all gotta spend money.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
It's over now, But you should have had to spend
some real paper, build some shit up. When I see
the TMZ the Downfall of didd he guess who the
first person I see.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
Pop up in it? Stevie J. Now ask myself, why
the fuck is Stevie J in a.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
Documentary with TMZ in which they're gonna examine every in
anything that's on the Downfall of Diddy? Why am I
solidifying it with one of his guys on the fucking camera?
Why would I do that? Like what be going on nowadays?
What niggas just got to have this thirst full attention.
(30:20):
You can't clarify nothe sitting with TMZ. You can sit
up there and talk for forty five minutes. We're gonna
take the two minutes we need and move to the
next scene like you have no control over that. Why
would Why would me being someone that's if I'm Stevie J,
me being someone that's in Diddy House when they raid
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and TMZ is doing a documentary on the downfall of
did It? Why the fuck would I be in it?
In the same way I'm saying, what with DJ Academics.
If Drake has parked a significant audience to my stream
to allow me to front face with the audience to say,
Drake told me, Drake is doing this, Drake is doing that,
Why then would I then take that same audience and
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read off lyrics that make Drake look stupid?
Speaker 1 (31:09):
Old lyrics, old songs.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
Why would I grab things from the past bring them
to the present.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
It's the thirst four attention.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
Why would I go on four or five different platforms
and talk about Drake losing and Drake parked a significant
audience on my stream?
Speaker 1 (31:25):
Why? Same with Stevie J. Let's deal with this theory.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
That I heard about, because there's a couple of different
theories that's going around on how the Fizz may obtain
that video, y'all let me know which one y'all believe.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
It to be.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
So the video of Diddy and Cassie fighting in that hotel,
there's rumors swirling around a couple different ways that this
video got into the hands of these people. One was
that when they rated Sean Kohle's home that they found
this video. Now, the Fears knew that they couldn't prosecut
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him for the video because of the date range and
the statue of limitations on assault, so instead of indicting
them on it, it becomes useless, so we release it. Now,
when you talk about releasing this video, in my opinion,
what you're doing is you're tainting the jury or whoever
may be involved.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
With this case moving forward.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
They've seen this video and they may have mothers, sisters,
things like that. So it's a very strategic attempt to
sway in my opinion, the court of public opinion. That's
number one. Number two is to smoke him out. It's
to smoke him out. And he actually responded, we'll get
to that second. That was a mistake. I told you
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guys last week that I believe that no audio associated
with it was intentional because without the audio, we can
paint the scenario. And if I release it with no
audio and force you to release and say something, now
you just agreed that that's you, and now I'm gonna
paint the scenario. Before I agree, they got to tell me,
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hold on, I'm if I'm did in that video come
out World War War? What's that video?
Speaker 1 (33:08):
AI?
Speaker 2 (33:09):
That ain't no real video. Now, I don't know where
they got that from. Man, y'all shoot with damn y'all
making videos. Now, y'all gonna have to show me how
y'all got that. Way y'all got that? Like, my lawyer's
gonna dig into that. Yeah, my lawyer's gonna dig into that.
I'll get in a wild I think he apologized a
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couple different reasons in my opinion, and so a lot
of people brought up the NBA Young Boy video with
him and his girlfriend getting into it, the Jay Z
and Salange video, because families go through things, but this
was unacceptable. This is a totally different level for people.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
To even now with the NBA Young Boy and.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
Diddy thing, that's a different, But the Salon's thing was
hers shooting at Jay and j Like, come on, man,
j Jada kind of nigga that know its cameras in here.
You see what I'm saying, Jada, They kind of nigga
that know way you bullshitting his cameras in here?
Speaker 1 (34:03):
And you know we us.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
I want to flirt with the idea that they got
their video from out of his house when they raided
the house. Let me say something, My house is probably
one hundred times smaller than did his house. My house
is a few thousand square feet, right, you know, about
four five thousand square feet? Did his house be sixty
thousand square feet? Man, this shit in my house. I
don't know this in here. It's shit in my house.
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I don't forgot it's in here. It's gonna be hard
for people to make me believe that did he know
exactly every video he has in his house, every audio,
every picture, it from ten to fifteen, twenty years. No,
it's no way. I guarantee you it's things in that
house he forgot. I believe they're not only did He,
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but other celebrities will be notified about things that they
have seen doing on tapes.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
That they may have even forgot about.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
People gonna be saying, man I forgot, man I forgot
about it that y'all. I forgot we did that. Man
I forgot that was that? Man I forgot we had.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
I believe that. And so again I believe the.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
Video that we have here with no audio with Diddy
will be used to further the sexual assault claims because
clearly you dragging a young lady in there, and you
don't have no clothes on and you got socks on,
So you can't say I ran out the shower. You
can't say ripe your naked, bro, What the fuck was
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you doing that?
Speaker 1 (35:31):
It's gonna be eat.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
You don't got no soap on, you ain't no water
dripping off you. You dried naked with socks on. That's
gonna be rough, my nigga. You never, ever, ever should
have said no nothing about their video?
Speaker 1 (35:44):
What else I find interesting?
Speaker 2 (35:45):
I was just talking to y'all about how this game
gives some of these entertainers, athletes, and other things a
god like complex where they feel as though that they
are above other people. And what tends to happen is
people will bend their acceptance level based on your position,
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and so you have this weird aura right you don't
even do right by people, but they accept it because
who you are. You told them you're gonna call them back.
You never called, but they accept it next time you
call what you doing big broad because of who you
are a lot of times it builds resentment. But the
interesting part is people will be in their expectations and
the acceptment of treatment based on your position and status
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in life. And so what that does is excuse the
mindset of the people that benefits from said position, And
so it becomes, how dare you leave after all I've
done for you, total disregard to how you've spoken to people,
total disregard to how you've treated people. It's just what
I've done for you, because usually what I do for
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you supersedes how I treat We live in a society
and culture with what I do for you supersedes with
how I treat. Treat you like shit, but buy your diamonds,
expect you to smile on Christmas. Contrary to probably belief,
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people will accept things that they're uncomfortable with when love
is involved and opportunity is involved. Especially the way did
it meant Cassie was interesting because Cassie was someone that
was looking to get into the music business. This is
what they mean when they say this is unfortunate, because
here you are a successful person in the music business.
I'm looking to get into the music business and you
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like me. It's a one way ticket. It's a success.
The man done it with Mary, done with all these
different people I'll sit here along the way. Maybe he
got involved with drugs. Maybe some things happen and skewed
the way that he treats people. And also, when you
get a billion dollars, you lose your heart. How dapt
people have expectations with you? With all the goddamn money
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you get, you think you above recourse. Now, people shouldn't
expect a call back from you, a text back from you.
People shouldn't expect for you to support them because you're busy.
Speaker 1 (38:03):
You're the big dog. Uh uh. Humanity overrides all of that.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
So with the TMZ thing, I find out that Little Rob,
the lawyer that's going after, did it via a Little
Rob which is not the same lawyer as Cassie. And
to not be mashed in with Cassie, I think we
need to keep those two separate. We need to keep
those two divided. Cassie has some very legitimate claims and
an extensive relationship with this gentleman. Lead seems to have
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a lawyer that has did some things that people in
his own field is calling questionable. And I learned this
via TMZ with us saying, Yo, this guy is known
to do what's called a bombing on you, which means
attack you via socials and via the public eye and
trying to get you to settle. And so he's under
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some sort of investigation as we speak, for his conduct
as it pertains the lawsuit filing in some of the
narratives and things he'll stuff in it that has nothing
to do with nothing. I think Meek Mill has been
caught up in this lawsuit in that way, but nobody's
speaking up for me. Everybody got to learn to feed
the wolves.
Speaker 1 (39:13):
While I was.
Speaker 2 (39:14):
Looking at Stevie Jay's involvement with a side and a
concerned look, also saw the young lady who's been vocal
about Diddy, and she was a part of Daddy Kane.
I think her name is Aubrey. Her name is Aubrey O'Day,
and she was someone that was in Daddy Kane. She's
been consistent with what she said about Diddy. Again, I
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always tell people that knowing his participation, so these people
that's been around Diddy and these other individuals in the
entertainment industry, what they say, I cannot confirm with deny,
but I also won't dismiss.
Speaker 1 (39:50):
Knowing his participation. I have not been involved.
Speaker 2 (39:53):
Therefore, I don't know, but with Aubrey, and I would
love to sit with her at some point. But with Aubrey,
I think there's a interesting conversation to be had because
when I hear her talk to TMZ and other outlets,
what sounds like she says that the way Diddy handled
her interfered with her development as a person of course,
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as an artist and other things. But what they played
in this particular video, the Downfall of Diddy brought to
You by TMZ, well they played the reality show that
they had And while I do understand that it can
land on you when he speaks to you in that way,
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I do think there's a manner of entertainment also that
needs to be considered body shaming in that mold and
vibe we see in these reality show type of programming,
we see people take these quote unquote digs at one another,
in particular on reality TV, because that is what people
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think is entertainment, to fighting and throwing stuff, to talking
about stuff. Diddy happen to be in that and speaking
to her a certain way. They kind of made the
TMZ documentary and again for Obry Oday, I don't want
to take away from her experiences, so I don't want
to act like that nothing's happened. I'm just more so
speaking about in this TMZ documentary. Those pieces that were
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used were pieces from a VH one reality show. I
think it was making the band, and I do know
that as an entertainment element with that. But when you
have these allegations surrounding you, all of these things are
put in the context and you have to deal with
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that because you place yourself in that scenario. So let's
deal with another way that this Cassie and Diddy video
could have been obtained. And again it's for the sake
of the podcast. I just want to put things out.
You're dealing with high level jiu jitsu mind games. This
is no longer the little itty biddy shit that niggas
be dealing with, this little drug.
Speaker 1 (41:58):
Dealing and shit. Here is some high level shit again.
Speaker 2 (42:02):
When they start rolling out those documentaries, this is the
rappers roll out before they go to prison.
Speaker 1 (42:09):
This is whoever with allegations.
Speaker 2 (42:12):
When you start seeing the documentaries pop up, this is
your highway to prison that they're trying to put you on.
Because they put Kelly on it, Weinstein, they put everybody
on it, and they've been successful almost one hundred percent
of the time, but there's a few that slipped through,
but they remain quiet. This is the mistake Diddie's making again.
We'll get to that in just one second. Is there
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a world where they could be reverse engineering this case
on Diddy? Is there a world where they obtain this
video prior to the search ones being come out? And again,
they're going into a house with fifty thousand square feet.
(42:55):
There's an argument to be had that he doesn't know
everything that's in that house. So let's just say that
they entered the house with that video and planted the
video in. Now, is there a world where that could
be where they can be reverse engineering some of this
stuff to make sure that they get their man, Because
you are dealing with a guy that got a lot
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of money. So I flirted with the idea that what
if they reverse engineered that? And this doesn't speak to
the video itself and what happened on it. I'm just saying,
how much more maybe did they have when they entered
the house. If that's the case, how many more videos
did they already have in their position?
Speaker 1 (43:34):
Let's get the Diddy's apology for.
Speaker 2 (43:37):
Those unaware Diddy after this video was out, I believe
almost an entire day, maybe two days, Sean P. Diddy
Combs took to his Instagram to take what he calls
responsibility for his actions.
Speaker 1 (43:52):
Let's take a look.
Speaker 5 (43:54):
It's so difficult to reflect on the darkest times in
your life. Sometimes you gotta do that.
Speaker 1 (44:03):
I was fucked up.
Speaker 5 (44:06):
I mean, I hit rock bottom, but I make no excuses.
My behavior on that video is inexcusable. I take full
responsibility for my actions in that video.
Speaker 6 (44:20):
Disgusted.
Speaker 5 (44:23):
I was disgusted then when I did it. I'm disgusted
now and went in I sought our professional help and
had to go into therapy. I'm going to rehab. Had
to ask God for his mercy and grace. I'm so sorry,
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but I'm committed to be a better mansion every day.
I'm not asking for forgiveness.
Speaker 1 (45:00):
I'm truly sorry. Sh Man. That's heavy. It's heavy. Number one.
Speaker 2 (45:11):
There's maybe ten reasons why there's a mistake today. We're
gonna deal with just a few of them. Number one,
no matter what you say, it just fused the fire.
That's number one. As you've seen in the response to this, No,
a lot of people are not gonna accept it. A
lot of people are gonna start Black culture in particular,
are gonna start making memes.
Speaker 1 (45:31):
That's what we That's only what we know how to do.
Speaker 2 (45:34):
We only know how to entertain motherfuckers. We don't know
how to help no nigga, no crisis situation. Help cast
out of crisis situation. Help did it? Don't nobody know
how to do shit around here but make memes and
make niggas laugh. And we need laughter. But everything ain't funny, right,
But I get it. Everybody got a job to do.
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It's money fueling this. Its attention is thirst surrounding this shit.
Here you are coming out with a video one of
the dumbest things in the world. Say, with all due
respect to casting, baby, I shot you thirty me. Baby,
I shot you thirty men. Man, I shot you thirty me.
I don't want to now send myself to the penitentiary.
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I just shot you thirty million. When I first heard this,
the first thing I said is, well, he just exed
his own lawyer, y'all, because if nonetheless whin the age
of ai Yo the video is ai now proof to
source the video? Where you get it from? When did
you get it? How did you get it? Like all
this is now off the table since you just solidified
that this you in the video. Number one, the lawyers
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could have said it was Ai. We're in the age
of Ai Man.
Speaker 1 (46:41):
I don't know that.
Speaker 2 (46:42):
Number two, he could have Hey, Yo, damn, y'all gonna
just put the video together.
Speaker 1 (46:46):
I don't even know that that's me? Is that me?
What that's your tattoo? It looked like you man proved
that's me? Is that me? When did you get this video?
Speaker 2 (46:55):
Somebody got to clarify and substantiate this video? Number three.
There's so many scenarios that the lawyers could have worked with.
Speaker 6 (47:03):
Yo.
Speaker 2 (47:03):
She stabbed him. She run out of there with seven
hundred thousand dollars in a purse.
Speaker 1 (47:08):
She tried to.
Speaker 2 (47:09):
It's too many different things. But once you place yourself there,
you cooked. Then the apology is, Yo, I don't even
want no forgiveness. It's like you standing up on it
like you're telling Cassie, like I'm sorry, I've done that
and I'm sorry for it. Yo, Bro, nobody's accepting it
that way. But it says to me in a weird
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way that Sean P. Diddy Kom still have some kind
of heart in there, because this is clearly an emotional act.
You do not do this if you're not in your emotions.
The coach is tearing at his ass, The world is
tearing at his ass. Now, it's extremely hard to sit
and watch your name be on seeing then and on
all these blogs and shit all day every day and
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not say Nothing's extremely difficult, extremely difficult.
Speaker 1 (47:59):
So I get it.
Speaker 2 (48:00):
But here's why I think that it kind of shows
that Diddy has a little hard and so I'm not
saying hard as pertains to the scenario he put Cassie,
and I'm saying that he's still affected by what said
from the outside. And in most billionaires, you lose the
ability to feel that as you get that amount of money,
you no longer even give a fuck what these people
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talking about. Case in point, you never heard Epstein say anything.
People are saying, man, well, now he wasn't he. You know,
it's so many people talking about Diddy. Man, do you
understand Epstein had presidents, princes of other coaches and countries
on his list involved talking about pedophilia. He never said
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a word because he know, I'm gonna let my lawyers work.
And number two, I don't give a fuck what y'all
talking about. I'm ana be in there. Don't nothing change.
You never heard Weinstein come out and say nothing. If
these dudes say anything, it ain't gonna never be none
to the fact of that was me involved in. They
don't say that. They lose the ability to feel for
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people as you get billions of dollars. If you're asking me,
I do believe that Diddy took Cassie and Kim through hell.
Speaker 1 (49:13):
Let me be clear on that. But you now are.
Speaker 2 (49:16):
Fighting against the federal government for your life. It is
time for you to shit your motherfucking mouth. Baby, I
shot you thirty million. I'm sorry about that. I'm sorry
about that, But if it was me, I would not
be able to say nothing in public in the way
he did just that. Because now you apologize for being that,
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they gonna attach that the sexual assault.
Speaker 4 (49:39):
Bro.
Speaker 2 (49:39):
You're not wet, you're not soaked up, you don't have nothing,
you got socks on in you naked. What are you
doing and you're dragging a woman back into a room.
When you think about Trump, he's a billion dollar nigga.
They got him all involved in shit. To the point
of this is how you know being and that dudes
they won't say nothing. No matter what you're saying out there,
they will never a mint guilt is because there's loopholes
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in the American justice system. As long as it don't
come out of your mouth and you caught with the
smoking gun, that's all kind of loopholes in the American
justice system. You got Trump on the other side saying
I don't know nothing about a payment when they're allegedly
saying that he arranged the payment with some woman that
was paid out of one of his accounts through his
one of his lawyers. But I never knew that happened, right,
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These dudes will never say nothing. Epstein never said nothing.
They brought Prince Charles up. They brought Bill Clinton up.
They've been saying Clinton had people is dying fucking with
Clinton for years.
Speaker 1 (50:37):
He will not address it.
Speaker 2 (50:39):
There's any emotion that you lose on your way the
money and power of that magnitude that makes you disregard
human life and human opinion. You only care about bottom
line ones and zeros is numbers.
Speaker 1 (50:54):
It's all you care about.
Speaker 2 (50:56):
If you ask me five years into the sentence, what
would did he be saying saying, yo, I shouldn't have
done that video. That was a mistake. Definitely shouldn't have
done that video. Why did I do that video? You
know that video played a significant role into why I
may be in jail right now. If he goes to jail,
I think at some point he'll look back on that
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video and say, that's an emotional move.
Speaker 1 (51:19):
I should not have did that.
Speaker 2 (51:22):
I mean, they could have said that he was coming
down the hallways saying anything. He jumped the gun and
jumped in front of the federal government. And I'm telling
you they're gonna arrest him at some point if you're
asking me. If you're asking me, there's an arrest warrant
coming at some point. King Combs has to ask itself, Yo,
(51:43):
I just dropped that video or song talking about the
fizz kicking our door in This ain't entertainment to nobody.
Speaker 7 (51:49):
Bro.
Speaker 2 (51:50):
You think they want to be embarrassed and mentioned on
songs in the middle of their investigation. But these are
the This is the arrogance that come along with money.
Let me explain something to all you guys. Bigger Fish
done been fried, nigga. You understand that King Combs and
Pete Diddy, bigger fish done, been fried nigga. So don't
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never think that little money man. I'm telling y'all, man,
respect the game, respect the universe.
Speaker 1 (52:20):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (52:22):
Then let's address the fact that is he apologizing because
he's got caught or is he apologizing literally for what
he done. I think the jury is still out on that.
People are trying to figure out. Is it because of
what he done? Is it because he got caught cassiing
them are gonna say they gonna believe in their hard
just because he got caught, And a lot of people
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are gonna believe that. I mean, he was a monster
on that on that video. You're a monster to this woman,
Like the Internet, don't put wrestling music behind this dude
running down the hallway like he's going into a royal rumble.
Then you hear certain content creators regurgitate that on their platforms,
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like they came up with that, but that's literally on Twitter,
they put stone cold music behind them and things like that.
I pray for everybody involved. I think that it's a
very messed up scenario. We're gonna watch how it plays out.
I think the fears are not to be played with,
so whoever's playing with the federal government need to find
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somebody else to play with. Let me get to before
I get out of here. Let me get to this.
Tyson Fury, Javonte Davis. Let me just deal with boxing
a little bit. Tyson Fury, for those who do not know,
just had a title fight for the undisputed heavyweight champion
of the world. Right he went against a Ukrainian guy.
(53:48):
I could never get his name right, but he's a
very talented boxer. I watched this fight and I truly
believe Tyson won to fight. But here's the thing about
being a warrior. Sometimes you got to know when to
hold him and when to fold him. You gotta know
when to go down. Tyson found itself in a very
interesting scenario in the eighth round. In my opinion, if
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he would have just went down faster, we have a
different conversation at the end of the match. But this
is what the encounter was, and this is what I
believe lost this fight.
Speaker 1 (54:20):
For Tyson Fury. Pay attention and he's gonna.
Speaker 2 (54:47):
So he got what's called a standing eight count on that.
A lot of people are arguing that they should have
stopped to fight there. I think he should have went
on down. But maybe if he goes down he doesn't
get up. I don't know, because he is very rattled.
But I think he took too much extra damage and
it was too late in the fight. So this happened
in like round eight. You only got three or four
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more rounds. This is now burnt into these judges head.
The level of pressure and the level of beating you
just took right here is literally fresh on their minds.
So I think it was a mistake from that aspect.
I don't think he had the wiggle room to play
with it in the way that he did. If you
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paid attention to the fight, Tyson would do He was
slipping and dipping. He was in that plane. This is
how you know it was. To me, he felt comfortable
in there. But let's look at his press conference. See
what he said was.
Speaker 6 (55:42):
I thought it was going to stop it. He looked
so much in control of the fight, but then when
he got caught on the nose, in my opinion, he
lost his concentration just for a moment, and then the
next round obviously there was a ten eight round. Personally
felt I agreed with the judge who gave it to Tyson,
But no sour grapes, no cry baby stuff. We got
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a unified champion and that is it. And we congratulate
him and his team on putting a great event together,
a brilliant event here in the Kingdom, his excellency, you know,
thanks to hit, his excellency, this happened, and what a
great nights and the other fights on the card. This
has been a brilliant, brilliant night for boxing, and we
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should celebrate what we watched because these guys show true
grip all the way through.
Speaker 8 (56:37):
Wells Tyson, you've earned all the money in the world
that you need. You've got eight an eighth baby on
the way.
Speaker 1 (56:44):
You proved yourself with.
Speaker 4 (56:46):
The not confirmed to eight babies not confouned. You proved
it not yet anyway.
Speaker 8 (56:53):
You proved yourself of the world of fights. Getting up
in that round nine. Why are you getting up off
the floor? What is in your read that's making He's
got a water fight. He thinks he's doing it for
a nation. I don't know how you did it, mate.
Speaker 4 (57:06):
You know what, I just want to say, thank you
to God in the writing name of Jesus. We put
on a good fight for the fans. You know, I
always say it's about getting paid and getting laid, and
we did that tonight. I thank Alexander for the for
the good fight. It was a close fight. You know,
I believed that I thought I did enough. But you know,
I'm not a judge. I can't judge a fight while
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i'm boxing it. You know, if they would have said
to me in the last round or whatever, you down,
go out and try and finish him, I would have
done that. But we believe, everyone in the corner believe
we were up. You know, alls I had to do
was just keep boxing and doing what I was doing,
and you know I was getting it. But it was
what it was. I'm not going to cry about spilled milk.
I've had plenty of victories and I've gave God the glory.
I've had this one loss and a close, close fight,
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you know, with a good, good man like USA, and
it was what it was. I tried my best in there.
I was having a lot of fun. Actually, I don't
know if he looked like when I was playing around
and hands behind my back. I was enjoying it. You know,
he's a good fighter, Alexander, and I was catching him
and he was catching me and it was a good fight.
So I hope you guys enjoyed as much as I did.
Came punching the face.
Speaker 1 (58:09):
Yes, graduated, first time com performance.
Speaker 4 (58:14):
Thank you.
Speaker 6 (58:17):
Yet, what point did you feel that he started.
Speaker 4 (58:21):
To get involved For the first six rounds he maybe
nicked one of the rounds and yeah, maybe, and then
going forward, I believe I want a few of the
last rounds as well, So I'm not sure. You know
if I won the first say I won five. For
the first six, and then the next six I won
a few as well, So I sten it was close.
Speaker 1 (58:38):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (58:39):
I don't know. I said, I tried, me, asked, and
it was what it was to come up short. One
of the judges had me winning and you other two didn't,
so I can't complain about it. Thank you, guys. I
appreciate you.
Speaker 7 (58:51):
Uh uh tysand Obviously you've consistently said that you're the
best heavyweight of this generation. I'm sure a lost wasn't
in your imagination. First of all, congrastation on the performance,
But how do you feel right now? You know, with
something that you never thought would really would really happen.
Speaker 4 (59:10):
Let me tell you, I'm very happy in my mind.
I did the best accord and I thought I won
the fight, but it was what it was. I'm happy
with the performance. You know, both men's got paid and
both men's going home to the lovely wives and children,
and that's what it's about. We're put on a show
for the fans. You know, thirty seven and thirty six
year old we're not young kids anymore. We're at the
end of our careers and we're put in a brilliant
fight tonight. So I'm proud of myself, you know what
(59:31):
I mean. I'm proud of in that ninth round, I
was hitting, I was hurt, and I rallied on back.
That's what the GK does, and it was what it was.
I'd just spankful that both got out there, out of
there ringing one piece and go on to the next one.
Speaker 6 (59:42):
True British grit, that's what this is. This man, true
brick grit.
Speaker 4 (59:47):
Thank you, guys.
Speaker 2 (59:52):
What I wanted to ask the question, please, I think
Tyson fur kind of won to fight. If you I've
been watching Javonte Davis too. He he has a fight
with Frank Martin coming up. Javonte is giving me Floyd
money made in that first ever when he first turned
the money made. It seems like he's trying to come
into a personality that helps with selling the fights. I
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don't know, he may have to be careful with that.
But what Mayweather done, man, everyone watched, and so people
know whether you watch, if you love me or hate me,
it still can win. And so people are literally trying
to go down the same Mayweather alli because he positioned
himself as making more money than everybody from the from
the spoil to boxing. But if Tyson would have went
(01:00:38):
down in that fight, man, I just think it would
have it would have it would have been a different outcome.
He took like nine extra blows for nothing, Like, Bro,
you can't just take nine blows in front of the
judges and they just don't look at it like it
means nothing, Bro, not gonna happen. So another episode, man,
hopefully hopefully y'all enjoy it. Come to Patreon for the vibes.
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Speaker 1 (01:11):
There's a lot that happening in media.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
We've been speaking about a lot of things, but I
do want to speak directly to what just happened with Diddy.
I think two days ago we got back in and
we spoke about Diddy being involved in a video that's
released in which he assaulted Cassie at a hotel in
twenty and sixteen. Now today we want to examine a
(01:36):
lot of the specifics around this video and the following
actions after the video, but we want to keep everything
in context, and today I would like to let everyone
notice watching this, by no means are we apologizing for
what someone done, even if we examine some of these
things in a way that may be kind of uncomfortable
(01:58):
for someone that found themselves in these scenarios. I want
apologize beforehand for any woman that may be watching this
and feel that way.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
I do have a mother.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
That's really dear to me, and women in my life
that's dear to me that I know watch me all
the time. And so for the sake of content, scenario specifics,
podcasting and all of the things that fall in that category. Today,
we're going to examine this from a multitude of directions.
(02:30):
So again I want to be clear on that and
let that act as some sort of a disclaimer. By
no means are we trying to cast any hurt or
doubt on anything that took place. But we will examine
those things in a way. All right, Before we get
to the diddy thing, let me get a few things
out the way that I want to speak about. You know,
(02:52):
on my journey, man, one thing I want the youngsters
to know, people behind me, people over me, is that
when you're chasing a dream, or you on the journey,
you chasing after something that God is placed on your heart,
it come with a certain level of responsibility, come with
a certain level of burden that you gotta also carry
with all that money you expecting to get, with all
(03:15):
that opportunity in favor. Right, that's there's a there's a
level of burden that goes with that mental burden. And
so when I when I'm on this journey and I
bump into people for me, I always think that they
gonna see me by myself doing my thing. All these
cameras are all this equipment, right, and they gonna respect
the journey.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
They gonna know.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
They looking at a man that any event that all
he'll break loose, he'll strike out for his family and
figure something out if nothing else. You see me by myself,
You know that I go on a voyage by my
mother self to feed my family. What you as a witnessing,
is me travel all around this country to feed my
(03:59):
mother family.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
You don't never see me in a club.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
You ain't ever saw me buy a car online and
act like you ain't never seen none of that. You
watching a man with the tools that he can use
go on the road.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
To feed his family.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
And oftentimes I still run in the scenarios where it
feels like they disregard to work. I hear people off
the time say, man, it's blood, sweat and tears in it,
and I know what that's like, and they act like
they know what it's like.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Sometimes you hear talking.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
This blood sweating, tears talk, and they ain't got nothing
in the game. They ain't got no skin in the game,
nor do they got no respect for the game.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
When you put skin in the game, you leave a game,
even with.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
A loss, with respect for the game, because you know
what it takes to get there. Tell me why I
gotta deal with the industry in which I feel like
people tend to disrespect the gain.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
But I noticed something. Everybody that got money and get.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
It the same way, and I think that's the mistake
that we find women making. As long as he got money,
I put him in a boss scenario. Now he's a baller.
He got money. How did he get it? He may
have got it from his mother, He may have got
his from his father. I got mine with dirt under
my fingernails. I went on the concrete and busted open
(05:35):
to get mine. It's different because there's texture that come
along with the way I got mine, And the boss
thing is a texture thing, it ain't a money thing.
Dig what I'm saying. The idea that everything that I've
ever did is been positive or made a significant jump
(05:58):
in my life will be a mistake for people to think.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
I always tell.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
These and I gotta be louder because even the people
y'all got in position ain't really living what they talking.
And so I failed several times along the way, and
I still fail. There's things I want to do that
ain't going the way I need them to go. But
you don't see it because I'm a hustler. You looking
for me to tell you it's a fail You need
to look at how hard I'm sweating, because failure is
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the sweat of the hustlers. I'm gonna say that again.
Failure is the sweat of the hustlers. Everything ain't gonna
go as playing, but I'm gonna plan to keep everything going.
And so I try not to speak about some of
these because I want to build this thing so righteous,
(06:46):
the wall, it lasts a hundred years. I don't really
like to dow dirt on it, and I don't really
like to get in the mud with it. I just
want people to know out there that I respect the
journey and in this industry because people's been coddled for
(07:06):
so long, and they got so many companies involved with
what they do, and they're moving around and they tend
to have a attitude towards the work that you know
they never did the work. Even in this game, you
will travel to do an interview with a guy. You'll
pay him to do the interview. And this is not
me because I don't pay the due interviews, but you
will travel pay to do an interview with these guys
(07:29):
and the young men in this world come up to
me and they say long. They won't even respond to
me no more. They won't even post it and let
their fans know it's out. What I've came to notice
and tell these young boys that's following me is that.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
In the streets we call this penny pitching. What a
lot of these little dudes is doing.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
They trying to squeeze every dollar they can get out
that pain, and so sometimes you become a victim of
their greediness.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Just certain things right.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
I want to tell certain rap niggas things right, because
anytime I talk dog, it's some real ones in the game.
And a lot of times why I don't just cast
a widen it and shit on our rappers because I
know some real ones, some guys that really is like
some of the men right that stand on their word,
take care of their people.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
All these different things.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
But as we're dealing with this Diddy situation, it makes
me re examine what this entertainment industry does to you.
You'll have people in this entertainment industry who aura adopts
this like God complex, and I refuse to believe that
money does this. I believe this is a fame thing
because it in the streets with money. It's money. It's money,
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ain't I think it's a fame thing. I think the
more these guys become known, the less that they are
in touch with the real world. It's like on some
get out, like you think you better than somebody. I
respect your grind when you bring some money to me,
(09:03):
when you come from with me, when you come at
your alement to come with me, I respect your grind, homie.
This is why street hates certain reps, these low level
streets done got some money in rep and out of nowhere.
They think they better than the street, like they above
speaking to a nigga, or above retweeting a nigga or
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helping him with his business or whatever it may be.
What they'll come to realize is is when all he'll
break lose their fame and their money.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
Don't do nothing for you. The police can't even do
nothing for you. When them goons come out there. You
you can.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Tell the ones that really come from the streets and
understand that money requires an army.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
There's a lot of sucker ass South.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
A nigga's running around making a lot of money that
ain't got no way to defend it outside the police
and they be running around doing suckers. If another push
your mean line out and make your labels. It's been
two hundred thousand a month trying to protect you all
across the country. Or you're gonna run back to them
same street. I ain't been talking to wrap show back
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up in the hood. It's been five years. He ain't
send no money to nobody, don't work with nobody. But
now he's on his ass. He back in the neighborhood
needs some help.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
Now. We don't honor that.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Where I'm from, the industry will create a barrier around
some of these individuals to make to make them think
they can get away with sucker shit with no recourse.
But there's names in this industry that push a line
where you know just because you're that don't mean nothing.
Like when you come to certain people town. They can
really make it uncomfortable in that town. They say, when
you in California, dog, no matter what you do, somebody
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is connected to a gang bang. You live over here
in this high rise that costs a million dollars, but
the receptionists make fifteen dollars an hour. They got taken
the tradshot make twenty two dollars an hour.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
Yet the crib to me, But.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
It's a there's still got to move around there to
help the everyday environment continue to be livable. In things
of that nature, that's gonna be able to relate certain messages. Third, yeah,
he live in thirteen B. It's like, Bro. Then it
gets serious, bro, and the money cannot hide.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Right.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
A man can only blame himself whenever he's involved in
something that has treated him unfavorable. You can only blame yourself.
Your expectation was a bit too high. And so that's
something I struggle with, is managing expectations because I expect
everybody to kind of be like me. I expect everybody,
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if not to be like me, to respect what you
see when you deal with me, know that you're looking
at a man that will do and continues to do
things that you wouldn't do in regards to taking risks
with his own money, in regards to not being afraid
to do certain things.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Bro. Like a lot of these dudes they play I
ain't doing no plan.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
I also see the hood acting in a certain way too,
where it's like, even when I look at Chicago sometimes
I'll be like, yo, come out and tell all the
hood stories for thirty five thousand views until who killed who?
Got seventy thousand views? Brother, that don't even amount to
no money. You done blew the whole hood up about that, y'all.
(12:27):
Keep starring wars, y'all really, because it's a form of
boasting to be out talking about murders and for thirty
forty fifty thousand views. It's crazy to me. But even
deeper than that. Now, you gotta be careful if you're
a young dude that's involved in any kind of click
neighborhood anything you slip, gotta be careful because somebody.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Around you gonna thing on the interview.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Trying to get forty and fifty thousand views and getting
paid five hundred dollars A thousand dollars, I don't give
if you're getting paid thirty five hundred dollars.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Certainly you die with certain supposed to die with.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
When you come up the way we come up, y'all
gonna start putting it on the internet. And it's cool,
But I notice they do the most when they next
to white people. I remember somebody telling me Loom, I
don't think some of them guys gonna come and do
that shit on your platform because they just ain't gonna
even try.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
But they're getting next to a square.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
And go to talking about older neighborhood shit, and I'll
be saying, Yo, how is this helping anybody? No matter
what the Internet look at you like, it can be altered.
We're dealing with Diddy. It can be switched, it can
be changed. You're putting a little too much stock in
the stock market. Let's deal with this Diddy situation, really,
(13:42):
because I want to talk about a few things. Number One,
we're gonna deal with the video that's out again because
we kind of looked at it last time. But I
want I want you to take a look at a
few things on the video. And then Diddy has now
came out and apologized. We're gonna deal with all of
this and bring you some information from my pony, and
let's pay attent.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
New surveillance footage obtained exclusively by CNN appears to corroborate
some of the allegations of abuse against music mogul Sean
Diddy Combs. The video, captured on multiple cameras, shows Comb's
assaulting his then girlfriend Cassie Ventura in a hallway at
a Los Angeles hotel in March twenty sixteen. A lawsuit
(14:23):
filed by Ventura in November last year and settled the
next day, referenced actions that seem to match those scene
in this video. There is no audio. According to the complaint,
Homes became extremely intoxicated and punched Miss Ventura in the face,
giving her a black eye, which, according to the lawsuit,
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prompted Ventura to try and leave the hotel room. The
surveillance video, obtained by CNN begins as she enters the hallway.
The complaint says as she exited, mister Colmbs awoke and
began screaming at Miss Ventura. He followed her into the
hallway of the hotel while yelling at her. The complaint
goes on to say he grabbed her and then took
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glass vases in the hallway and threw them at her.
In the surveillance video, Combs can be seen grabbing Ventura
in throwing her to the ground. As Ventura lies on
the ground, Combs then kicks her twice and attempts to
drag her on the floor back to the hotel room.
Ventura is seen picking up a hotel phone. Comb seems
(15:25):
to walk back to the hotel room, then returns and
appears to shove her in a corner. Moments later, he
can be seen throwing an object in her direction. According
to Ventura's now sett a lawsuit, the pair began dating
several years after they met in two thousand and five.
They parted ways in twenty nineteen. Comb's attorney said the
decision to settle was in no way an admission of wrongdoing.
(15:50):
Ventura declined to comment on the video, but her attorney
told CNN, the gut wrenching video has only further confirmed
the disturbing and predatory behavior of mister Comb's words cannot
express the courage and fortitude that Miss Ventura has shown
in coming forward to bring this to light. The video
hasn't been seen publicly before and comes on the heels
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of a series of civil lawsuits allegend Comb's involvement in
sex trafficking and sexual abuse, allegations Combs has repeatedly denied,
and in December twenty twenty three statement Combs responded to
the claims in all the lawsuits, saying, sickening allegations have
been made against me by individuals looking for a quick payday.
(16:33):
Let me be absolutely clear, I did not do any
of the awful things being alleged. Two days after this
video published exclusively on CNN, Combs issued in apology.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Oh so they updated that. We're gonna deal with the
apology separate, right. I want you all to take a
look at the fact that they are literally putting those
two cases together, the little Rob and the Cassie thing.
I think the payment was in acknowledge, meant that Cassie's
had some truth into it.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
But the little Rod thing is where a.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Lot comes in at Now it sounds like CNN maybe
going only off Cassie's lawsuit, because I think cassie lawsuit
also had some of these things in it. But the
little Rod thing blurs the lines for a lot of people.
So let me deal with a couple of things on
this The playboard Monica that did he's been running with
(17:28):
is now biting him in the ass. You know, I
hear people throw jay z name around. Jay Z's a
different scenario. He doesn't wear this lady's man on his
sleeve at that age. I think at this point of
time that is now going to bite him in the ass.
Didd it should have been somewhat married by now, right
(17:50):
for all intensive purposes when we deal with businessman of
that statue with that amount of money, that should be
a married family that he has over there with that
kind of money, because I mean the risk involved with
being looked at at this playboy guy that does these
parties and that I don't know why he felt like
that was a great image in his fifties. And so
(18:13):
you see Diddy come out shortly after this and apologized
it was a grave mistake. In my opinion, that'll be
the reason he really gets indicted. And now you apologize
for the video that they haven't even said anything about
the video. They haven't even told you the idea behind
the video. You came out and apologized before they can
(18:34):
tell you their thoughts on it. So now when they
painted like you drug her back in that to have
sex with her, it's really nothing you can say because
you've placed yourself on that video.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
This was a mistake.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
The first thing I would have said if I was Diddy,
And this is no disrespect to Cassie because I did
pay you thirty million dollars. Now this is a fight
for my life, Like if I do need to address
you in the future. I will, but with the federal
investigation going on with y'all due respect, you don't get
that kind of leverage with me. I don't shoot you
thirty million dollars and then send myself to prison because
(19:08):
I feel bad. I'm sorry that may sound a way,
and I do not mean any disrespect when I say
these words. But I'm telling you, a man that's in
a fight for his life against the system need to shut.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
His motherfucking mouth up.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
First thing that he posted done was let his lawyers
address that video in court. If it's trying to be
used deactivate socials go off the grid, it's time. It's
time to go in that bunker, my nigga. So now
you're gonna help these people be able to paint you
as someone that drug this lady back in that to
have sex with her. And why do I say that again?
(19:44):
I keep telling y'all this video. He's naked in this video,
He's literally naked. He can't say jumped out of shower.
He got socks on, ain't no soap on him, ain't
no water on him. I know, nigga, look like glistenering
coming up out there shower. This is a man that
was in there naked for whatever reason. And listen, we're
(20:04):
gonna have jokes here today. This is a podcast. We're
gonna have jokes. I gotta preface this because this isn't
a laughing matter, but we all creating content.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
We send our prayers out to Cassie.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
But if I was diddy nigga, first thing I would
have been saying, See, this is.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
The thing I gotta learned. I done learned this off.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
Dealing with the police for so many years. You got
to learn to play to the camera. See really, everybody
moving around like the police gotta move around now.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
I remember back in the day when the.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Police would be really overzealous and they had their cameras on,
and they knew that the cameras was on. So while
you already on the ground and ain't moving, guess what
the police hunted. Stop resisting, stop resisting, stop moving You
saying damn, I ain't even moving. But they doing that
cause they know they recording, They know their camera on.
(20:56):
You know, That's why way before they see a gun, gun, gun,
they holling gun. That's the justifying court that I saw
a gun.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
You heard me holler.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
You see what I mean, and so now if I'm diddy,
I'm telling them, Oh, they ain't got no audio. So
what you would see guys do now is they'll do
like that scenario with did it.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
They'll be running down the highway. Now you can't take
it me out of there like at now you got
my watch? You know they be you done tried to
stab me?
Speaker 2 (21:26):
He hollering shit, you know, to make it seem like
she done something, same way the police do. Yeah, I
learned that from the police running down and saying.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
Now you just stabbed me. You gonna stab me?
Speaker 2 (21:39):
You just got to start saying shit for the camera.
That's what the police do. But that dude ain't got
no sober water, nothing on it.
Speaker 4 (21:46):
Man.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
Man, what you in there doing, niggad You just sitting there?
What you're doing in there? You just sitting that nigga
like that. You know what I'm saying. But on a
serious note, that playboy momause this doesn't leave him any
plausible deniability, Like you cannot say you wasn't having sex
with a lot of women. Nobody to look at you
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and say, yo, no, man, he's wholesome, like he got
the kids. He be at soccer games, with his wife.
And they not looking at you like they look at
you like the bad boy, the playboy. That's the image
you in your sixties. Black men gotta learn to grow
up too.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
Man. Ain't nothing wrong with being fly sixty, But man
still running around talking about I'm a playboy and I
want three four women. Man, keep that to yourself at sixty.
Do your thing, but keep it to yourself at sixty,
though nigga been bragging by fucking the whole forty years.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
Man, you got to keep it to yourself a sixty.
The arrogance of this game, though, the arrogance of this game.
I hear people when they talk about their video say, Yo,
when men spend that kind of money, they feel entitled,
They feel a sense of ownership over you when they
spend that kind of money on you.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
And while I agree with that, I said's a mistake.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
Even if it is a change, man, this is the
rough thing about life, even if you're one hundred percent changed. Man,
that's who she remembers you as, that guy right there,
And if you ask me, it seems to be pills involved,
because pills that make you have real mood swings, like
extreme mood swings, and so what happens is it just
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seems like people have dealt with this dude in a
way where they have some memories that they call nightmare.
I also think Diddy overestimated black people's involvement with whatever
he felt was coming down the turnpike. You know, we
saw Diddy going on this black this, black that, black man,
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black this, and for.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
Me, it didn't stick.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Not that we didn't recognize that he was branding, you know,
black involvement in corporations and things like that. That's a
fact that he was trying to do that, But I
don't think that shields you of anything. In the same
way if you are a police officer get into something,
you know, if you are a part of some of
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these other groups and you get into something, what happens
is they're mobilize behind you. Like you see Trump and
like you see some of these other you know, far
left or far right groups, They're mobilize on behalf of
the mission. It feels like Diddy was trying to position
himself in black culture as being some sort of staple
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that's here to help black people, and I think he
overestimated black people's involvement in organize, not for real issues,
but for these kind of issues, because Black people as
a whole have trouble mobilizing in order organize it for
one cause. Right when you talk about the voter turnout,
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when you talk about some of these different statistics that's out,
it shows that black people may or may not mobilize
and organize in a way that's effective to their own people. Now,
other people making get them out with a little I
remember they was offering hamburgers for COVID shots. This is
them trying to mobilize black people. This ain't for the whites.
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A hamburger for the this ain't for the whites.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
Man.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
They're trying to mobilize niggas to come get the shot.
And in my opinion, what you deal with is it's
black people in particular on the Internet.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
There's a high percentage of.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
Our culture that their biggest attribute is criticizing. Their biggest
attribute is just capitalizing, like off entertainment downfalls and fall
offs and things like that. And when I say that,
I mean that YO will create some funny memes about you.
Now you was o gud we ate with you. You
were helping us whatever the case may be. But we
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gonna make these means you gonna catch these jokes like
black people. You're gonna catch these jokes now, you know.
And sometimes ain't shit funny. Sometimes ain't time for no jokes,
And sometimes the jokes can lead the thing. And so
after this video was out right, I'm sitting in the
house and I go up on Instagram and put the
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Downfall of Diddy documentary with TMZ. For those of you
that don't know, TMZ just dropped the documentary The Downfall
of Didd it in the midst of the investigation.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
He ain't even been charged yet. I mean, there's a
lot happening.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
And when TIMZ is doing stuff like that, this is
the roll out for your jail time. You know how
when a rapper got an album coming out and they
do roll out, so they go do an interview here,
interview there. That's what these docuseriies have become. When they
start rolling them out, that's right before the jail time.
So if I was Diddy, I'll be kind of spooked
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out seeing that kind of shit come out. TMZ has
connections sometimes where they know things that other people don't know.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
I believe did it to be powerful.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
Enough to know something's coming, But TMZ not involved in movies.
TMZ saw a market that Netflix had tapped into.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
They did it to kill it.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
They did it the Weinstein, They did it to a
couple of different people. And so what happens is TMZ
gets involved in say, yo, we know this story, We're
involved in that culture.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
We gonna put it out.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
We ain't gonna let Hulu get it, because if you don't,
if you don't know, Hulu was the people they did
the Takashi six ' nine one. They did like just
these docuseries about the rise and fall of someone in
our culture. So they're serving this weird thirst that people
have for understanding celebrity lives. There's been a thirst since
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the beginning of my life in which people want to
know what celebrity lifestyle is. Like I remember they had
a paper called The End Wow, and some of these
like tabloid kind of papers that shits just moved to
the Internet now, like academics is the Enquirer. You see
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what I'm saying is where it's like it may not
be all truth, but somebody might have said it, somebody
might have fed it. But I think it's interesting that
even academics went on like a five, six, seven, eight
day marathon about Diddy's Little Rod lawsuit, and then that
same lawyer gets a him, No, no, no, not this time, nigga.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
You following through? You know, cover that like you cover
did it? Nigga?
Speaker 2 (28:40):
That's what they said. I heard Santana say cover that
like you cover did it?
Speaker 1 (28:44):
Nigga.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
I even think when we talk about Sean comes P
did it. I think he was involved with understanding he
needed the narrative to switch as well. I just think
he wasn't aggressive enough. He didn't really put no money
in revot to build that shit up like he She
supposed to start dropping documentaries of him helping save people lives,
creating a narrative around his music, lifestyle and how he
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done it, going to therapy, letting the people see certain
shit of it. But he kind of stayed away from
it and distanced itself from the media platform. And the
narrative is what the most important thing is. That's what's
killing him now.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
All narrative.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
Ain't nobody really seeing no hardcore evidence. It's all narrative,
And you talking, you niggas don't know how to really
shut your miles. You would have thought that Diddy would
have done a better job with brand than seen that
he had revot. It's no way that you have revot
and you let the narrative get out of control like that.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
But y'all gotta spend money.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
It's over now, But you should have had to spend
some real paper, build some shit up. When I see
the TMZ the Downfall of didd he guess who the
first person I see.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
Pop up in it? Stevie J. Now ask myself, why
the fuck is Stevie J in a.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
Documentary with TMZ in which they're gonna examine every in
anything that's on the Downfall of Diddy? Why am I
solidifying it with one of his guys on the fucking camera?
Why would I do that? Like what be going on nowadays?
What niggas just got to have this thirst full attention.
(30:20):
You can't clarify nothe sitting with TMZ. You can sit
up there and talk for forty five minutes. We're gonna
take the two minutes we need and move to the
next scene like you have no control over that. Why
would Why would me being someone that's if I'm Stevie J,
me being someone that's in Diddy House when they raid
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and TMZ is doing a documentary on the downfall of
did It? Why the fuck would I be in it?
In the same way I'm saying, what with DJ Academics.
If Drake has parked a significant audience to my stream
to allow me to front face with the audience to say,
Drake told me, Drake is doing this, Drake is doing that,
Why then would I then take that same audience and
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read off lyrics that make Drake look stupid?
Speaker 1 (31:09):
Old lyrics, old songs.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
Why would I grab things from the past bring them
to the present.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
It's the thirst four attention.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
Why would I go on four or five different platforms
and talk about Drake losing and Drake parked a significant
audience on my stream?
Speaker 1 (31:25):
Why? Same with Stevie J. Let's deal with this theory.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
That I heard about, because there's a couple of different
theories that's going around on how the Fizz may obtain
that video, y'all let me know which one y'all believe.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
It to be.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
So the video of Diddy and Cassie fighting in that hotel,
there's rumors swirling around a couple different ways that this
video got into the hands of these people. One was
that when they rated Sean Kohle's home that they found
this video. Now, the Fears knew that they couldn't prosecut
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him for the video because of the date range and
the statue of limitations on assault, so instead of indicting
them on it, it becomes useless, so we release it. Now,
when you talk about releasing this video, in my opinion,
what you're doing is you're tainting the jury or whoever
may be involved.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
With this case moving forward.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
They've seen this video and they may have mothers, sisters,
things like that. So it's a very strategic attempt to
sway in my opinion, the court of public opinion. That's
number one. Number two is to smoke him out. It's
to smoke him out. And he actually responded, we'll get
to that second. That was a mistake. I told you
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guys last week that I believe that no audio associated
with it was intentional because without the audio, we can
paint the scenario. And if I release it with no
audio and force you to release and say something, now
you just agreed that that's you, and now I'm gonna
paint the scenario. Before I agree, they got to tell me,
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hold on, I'm if I'm did in that video come
out World War War? What's that video?
Speaker 1 (33:08):
AI?
Speaker 2 (33:09):
That ain't no real video. Now, I don't know where
they got that from. Man, y'all shoot with damn y'all
making videos. Now, y'all gonna have to show me how
y'all got that. Way y'all got that? Like, my lawyer's
gonna dig into that. Yeah, my lawyer's gonna dig into that.
I'll get in a wild I think he apologized a
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couple different reasons in my opinion, and so a lot
of people brought up the NBA Young Boy video with
him and his girlfriend getting into it, the Jay Z
and Salange video, because families go through things, but this
was unacceptable. This is a totally different level for people.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
To even now with the NBA Young Boy and.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
Diddy thing, that's a different, But the Salon's thing was
hers shooting at Jay and j Like, come on, man,
j Jada kind of nigga that know its cameras in here.
You see what I'm saying, Jada, They kind of nigga
that know way you bullshitting his cameras in here?
Speaker 1 (34:03):
And you know we us.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
I want to flirt with the idea that they got
their video from out of his house when they raided
the house. Let me say something, My house is probably
one hundred times smaller than did his house. My house
is a few thousand square feet, right, you know, about
four five thousand square feet? Did his house be sixty
thousand square feet? Man, this shit in my house. I
don't know this in here. It's shit in my house.
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I don't forgot it's in here. It's gonna be hard
for people to make me believe that did he know
exactly every video he has in his house, every audio,
every picture, it from ten to fifteen, twenty years. No,
it's no way. I guarantee you it's things in that
house he forgot. I believe they're not only did He,
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but other celebrities will be notified about things that they
have seen doing on tapes.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
That they may have even forgot about.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
People gonna be saying, man I forgot, man I forgot
about it that y'all. I forgot we did that. Man
I forgot that was that? Man I forgot we had.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
I believe that. And so again I believe the.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
Video that we have here with no audio with Diddy
will be used to further the sexual assault claims because
clearly you dragging a young lady in there, and you
don't have no clothes on and you got socks on,
So you can't say I ran out the shower. You
can't say ripe your naked, bro, What the fuck was
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you doing that?
Speaker 1 (35:31):
It's gonna be eat.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
You don't got no soap on, you ain't no water
dripping off you. You dried naked with socks on. That's
gonna be rough, my nigga. You never, ever, ever should
have said no nothing about their video?
Speaker 1 (35:44):
What else I find interesting?
Speaker 2 (35:45):
I was just talking to y'all about how this game
gives some of these entertainers, athletes, and other things a
god like complex where they feel as though that they
are above other people. And what tends to happen is
people will bend their acceptance level based on your position,
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and so you have this weird aura right you don't
even do right by people, but they accept it because
who you are. You told them you're gonna call them back.
You never called, but they accept it next time you
call what you doing big broad because of who you
are a lot of times it builds resentment. But the
interesting part is people will be in their expectations and
the acceptment of treatment based on your position and status
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in life. And so what that does is excuse the
mindset of the people that benefits from said position, And
so it becomes, how dare you leave after all I've
done for you, total disregard to how you've spoken to people,
total disregard to how you've treated people. It's just what
I've done for you, because usually what I do for
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you supersedes how I treat We live in a society
and culture with what I do for you supersedes with
how I treat. Treat you like shit, but buy your diamonds,
expect you to smile on Christmas. Contrary to probably belief,
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people will accept things that they're uncomfortable with when love
is involved and opportunity is involved. Especially the way did
it meant Cassie was interesting because Cassie was someone that
was looking to get into the music business. This is
what they mean when they say this is unfortunate, because
here you are a successful person in the music business.
I'm looking to get into the music business and you
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like me. It's a one way ticket. It's a success.
The man done it with Mary, done with all these
different people I'll sit here along the way. Maybe he
got involved with drugs. Maybe some things happen and skewed
the way that he treats people. And also, when you
get a billion dollars, you lose your heart. How dapt
people have expectations with you? With all the goddamn money
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you get, you think you above recourse. Now, people shouldn't
expect a call back from you, a text back from you.
People shouldn't expect for you to support them because you're busy.
Speaker 1 (38:03):
You're the big dog. Uh uh. Humanity overrides all of that.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
So with the TMZ thing, I find out that Little Rob,
the lawyer that's going after, did it via a Little
Rob which is not the same lawyer as Cassie. And
to not be mashed in with Cassie, I think we
need to keep those two separate. We need to keep
those two divided. Cassie has some very legitimate claims and
an extensive relationship with this gentleman. Lead seems to have
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a lawyer that has did some things that people in
his own field is calling questionable. And I learned this
via TMZ with us saying, Yo, this guy is known
to do what's called a bombing on you, which means
attack you via socials and via the public eye and
trying to get you to settle. And so he's under
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some sort of investigation as we speak, for his conduct
as it pertains the lawsuit filing in some of the
narratives and things he'll stuff in it that has nothing
to do with nothing. I think Meek Mill has been
caught up in this lawsuit in that way, but nobody's
speaking up for me. Everybody got to learn to feed
the wolves.
Speaker 1 (39:13):
While I was.
Speaker 2 (39:14):
Looking at Stevie Jay's involvement with a side and a
concerned look, also saw the young lady who's been vocal
about Diddy, and she was a part of Daddy Kane.
I think her name is Aubrey. Her name is Aubrey O'Day,
and she was someone that was in Daddy Kane. She's
been consistent with what she said about Diddy. Again, I
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always tell people that knowing his participation, so these people
that's been around Diddy and these other individuals in the
entertainment industry, what they say, I cannot confirm with deny,
but I also won't dismiss.
Speaker 1 (39:50):
Knowing his participation. I have not been involved.
Speaker 2 (39:53):
Therefore, I don't know, but with Aubrey, and I would
love to sit with her at some point. But with Aubrey,
I think there's a interesting conversation to be had because
when I hear her talk to TMZ and other outlets,
what sounds like she says that the way Diddy handled
her interfered with her development as a person of course,
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as an artist and other things. But what they played
in this particular video, the Downfall of Diddy brought to
You by TMZ, well they played the reality show that
they had And while I do understand that it can
land on you when he speaks to you in that way,
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I do think there's a manner of entertainment also that
needs to be considered body shaming in that mold and
vibe we see in these reality show type of programming,
we see people take these quote unquote digs at one another,
in particular on reality TV, because that is what people
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think is entertainment, to fighting and throwing stuff, to talking
about stuff. Diddy happen to be in that and speaking
to her a certain way. They kind of made the
TMZ documentary and again for Obry Oday, I don't want
to take away from her experiences, so I don't want
to act like that nothing's happened. I'm just more so
speaking about in this TMZ documentary. Those pieces that were
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used were pieces from a VH one reality show. I
think it was making the band, and I do know
that as an entertainment element with that. But when you
have these allegations surrounding you, all of these things are
put in the context and you have to deal with
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that because you place yourself in that scenario. So let's
deal with another way that this Cassie and Diddy video
could have been obtained. And again it's for the sake
of the podcast. I just want to put things out.
You're dealing with high level jiu jitsu mind games. This
is no longer the little itty biddy shit that niggas
be dealing with, this little drug.
Speaker 1 (41:58):
Dealing and shit. Here is some high level shit again.
Speaker 2 (42:02):
When they start rolling out those documentaries, this is the
rappers roll out before they go to prison.
Speaker 1 (42:09):
This is whoever with allegations.
Speaker 2 (42:12):
When you start seeing the documentaries pop up, this is
your highway to prison that they're trying to put you on.
Because they put Kelly on it, Weinstein, they put everybody
on it, and they've been successful almost one hundred percent
of the time, but there's a few that slipped through,
but they remain quiet. This is the mistake Diddie's making again.
We'll get to that in just one second. Is there
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a world where they could be reverse engineering this case
on Diddy? Is there a world where they obtain this
video prior to the search ones being come out? And again,
they're going into a house with fifty thousand square feet.
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There's an argument to be had that he doesn't know
everything that's in that house. So let's just say that
they entered the house with that video and planted the
video in. Now, is there a world where that could
be where they can be reverse engineering some of this
stuff to make sure that they get their man, Because
you are dealing with a guy that got a lot
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of money. So I flirted with the idea that what
if they reverse engineered that? And this doesn't speak to
the video itself and what happened on it. I'm just saying,
how much more maybe did they have when they entered
the house. If that's the case, how many more videos
did they already have in their position?
Speaker 1 (43:34):
Let's get the Diddy's apology for.
Speaker 2 (43:37):
Those unaware Diddy after this video was out, I believe
almost an entire day, maybe two days, Sean P. Diddy
Combs took to his Instagram to take what he calls
responsibility for his actions.
Speaker 1 (43:52):
Let's take a look.
Speaker 5 (43:54):
It's so difficult to reflect on the darkest times in
your life. Sometimes you gotta do that.
Speaker 1 (44:03):
I was fucked up.
Speaker 5 (44:06):
I mean, I hit rock bottom, but I make no excuses.
My behavior on that video is inexcusable. I take full
responsibility for my actions in that video.
Speaker 6 (44:20):
Disgusted.
Speaker 5 (44:23):
I was disgusted then when I did it. I'm disgusted
now and went in I sought our professional help and
had to go into therapy. I'm going to rehab. Had
to ask God for his mercy and grace. I'm so sorry,
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but I'm committed to be a better mansion every day.
I'm not asking for forgiveness.
Speaker 1 (45:00):
I'm truly sorry. Sh Man. That's heavy. It's heavy. Number one.
Speaker 2 (45:11):
There's maybe ten reasons why there's a mistake today. We're
gonna deal with just a few of them. Number one,
no matter what you say, it just fused the fire.
That's number one. As you've seen in the response to this, No,
a lot of people are not gonna accept it. A
lot of people are gonna start Black culture in particular,
are gonna start making memes.
Speaker 1 (45:31):
That's what we That's only what we know how to do.
Speaker 2 (45:34):
We only know how to entertain motherfuckers. We don't know
how to help no nigga, no crisis situation. Help cast
out of crisis situation. Help did it? Don't nobody know
how to do shit around here but make memes and
make niggas laugh. And we need laughter. But everything ain't funny, right,
But I get it. Everybody got a job to do.
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It's money fueling this. Its attention is thirst surrounding this shit.
Here you are coming out with a video one of
the dumbest things in the world. Say, with all due
respect to casting, baby, I shot you thirty me. Baby,
I shot you thirty men. Man, I shot you thirty me.
I don't want to now send myself to the penitentiary.
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I just shot you thirty million. When I first heard this,
the first thing I said is, well, he just exed
his own lawyer, y'all, because if nonetheless whin the age
of ai Yo the video is ai now proof to
source the video? Where you get it from? When did
you get it? How did you get it? Like all
this is now off the table since you just solidified
that this you in the video. Number one, the lawyers
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could have said it was Ai. We're in the age
of Ai Man.
Speaker 1 (46:41):
I don't know that.
Speaker 2 (46:42):
Number two, he could have Hey, Yo, damn, y'all gonna
just put the video together.
Speaker 1 (46:46):
I don't even know that that's me? Is that me?
What that's your tattoo? It looked like you man proved
that's me? Is that me? When did you get this video?
Speaker 2 (46:55):
Somebody got to clarify and substantiate this video? Number three.
There's so many scenarios that the lawyers could have worked with.
Speaker 6 (47:03):
Yo.
Speaker 2 (47:03):
She stabbed him. She run out of there with seven
hundred thousand dollars in a purse.
Speaker 1 (47:08):
She tried to.
Speaker 2 (47:09):
It's too many different things. But once you place yourself there,
you cooked. Then the apology is, Yo, I don't even
want no forgiveness. It's like you standing up on it
like you're telling Cassie, like I'm sorry, I've done that
and I'm sorry for it. Yo, Bro, nobody's accepting it
that way. But it says to me in a weird
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way that Sean P. Diddy Kom still have some kind
of heart in there, because this is clearly an emotional act.
You do not do this if you're not in your emotions.
The coach is tearing at his ass, The world is
tearing at his ass. Now, it's extremely hard to sit
and watch your name be on seeing then and on
all these blogs and shit all day every day and
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not say Nothing's extremely difficult, extremely difficult.
Speaker 1 (47:59):
So I get it.
Speaker 2 (48:00):
But here's why I think that it kind of shows
that Diddy has a little hard and so I'm not
saying hard as pertains to the scenario he put Cassie,
and I'm saying that he's still affected by what said
from the outside. And in most billionaires, you lose the
ability to feel that as you get that amount of money,
you no longer even give a fuck what these people
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talking about. Case in point, you never heard Epstein say anything.
People are saying, man, well, now he wasn't he. You know,
it's so many people talking about Diddy. Man, do you
understand Epstein had presidents, princes of other coaches and countries
on his list involved talking about pedophilia. He never said
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a word because he know, I'm gonna let my lawyers work.
And number two, I don't give a fuck what y'all
talking about. I'm ana be in there. Don't nothing change.
You never heard Weinstein come out and say nothing. If
these dudes say anything, it ain't gonna never be none
to the fact of that was me involved in. They
don't say that. They lose the ability to feel for
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people as you get billions of dollars. If you're asking me,
I do believe that Diddy took Cassie and Kim through hell.
Speaker 1 (49:13):
Let me be clear on that. But you now are.
Speaker 2 (49:16):
Fighting against the federal government for your life. It is
time for you to shit your motherfucking mouth. Baby, I
shot you thirty million. I'm sorry about that. I'm sorry
about that, But if it was me, I would not
be able to say nothing in public in the way
he did just that. Because now you apologize for being that,
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they gonna attach that the sexual assault.
Speaker 4 (49:39):
Bro.
Speaker 2 (49:39):
You're not wet, you're not soaked up, you don't have nothing,
you got socks on in you naked. What are you
doing and you're dragging a woman back into a room.
When you think about Trump, he's a billion dollar nigga.
They got him all involved in shit. To the point
of this is how you know being and that dudes
they won't say nothing. No matter what you're saying out there,
they will never a mint guilt is because there's loopholes
(50:02):
in the American justice system. As long as it don't
come out of your mouth and you caught with the
smoking gun, that's all kind of loopholes in the American
justice system. You got Trump on the other side saying
I don't know nothing about a payment when they're allegedly
saying that he arranged the payment with some woman that
was paid out of one of his accounts through his
one of his lawyers. But I never knew that happened, right,
(50:25):
These dudes will never say nothing. Epstein never said nothing.
They brought Prince Charles up. They brought Bill Clinton up.
They've been saying Clinton had people is dying fucking with
Clinton for years.
Speaker 1 (50:37):
He will not address it.
Speaker 2 (50:39):
There's any emotion that you lose on your way the
money and power of that magnitude that makes you disregard
human life and human opinion. You only care about bottom
line ones and zeros is numbers.
Speaker 1 (50:54):
It's all you care about.
Speaker 2 (50:56):
If you ask me five years into the sentence, what
would did he be saying saying, yo, I shouldn't have
done that video. That was a mistake. Definitely shouldn't have
done that video. Why did I do that video? You
know that video played a significant role into why I
may be in jail right now. If he goes to jail,
I think at some point he'll look back on that
(51:17):
video and say, that's an emotional move.
Speaker 1 (51:19):
I should not have did that.
Speaker 2 (51:22):
I mean, they could have said that he was coming
down the hallways saying anything. He jumped the gun and
jumped in front of the federal government. And I'm telling
you they're gonna arrest him at some point if you're
asking me. If you're asking me, there's an arrest warrant
coming at some point. King Combs has to ask itself, Yo,
(51:43):
I just dropped that video or song talking about the
fizz kicking our door in This ain't entertainment to nobody.
Speaker 7 (51:49):
Bro.
Speaker 2 (51:50):
You think they want to be embarrassed and mentioned on
songs in the middle of their investigation. But these are
the This is the arrogance that come along with money.
Let me explain something to all you guys. Bigger Fish
done been fried, nigga. You understand that King Combs and
Pete Diddy, bigger fish done, been fried nigga. So don't
(52:13):
never think that little money man. I'm telling y'all, man,
respect the game, respect the universe.
Speaker 1 (52:20):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (52:22):
Then let's address the fact that is he apologizing because
he's got caught or is he apologizing literally for what
he done. I think the jury is still out on that.
People are trying to figure out. Is it because of
what he done? Is it because he got caught cassiing
them are gonna say they gonna believe in their hard
just because he got caught, And a lot of people
(52:42):
are gonna believe that. I mean, he was a monster
on that on that video. You're a monster to this woman,
Like the Internet, don't put wrestling music behind this dude
running down the hallway like he's going into a royal rumble.
Then you hear certain content creators regurgitate that on their platforms,
(53:04):
like they came up with that, but that's literally on Twitter,
they put stone cold music behind them and things like that.
I pray for everybody involved. I think that it's a
very messed up scenario. We're gonna watch how it plays out.
I think the fears are not to be played with,
so whoever's playing with the federal government need to find
(53:25):
somebody else to play with. Let me get to before
I get out of here. Let me get to this.
Tyson Fury, Javonte Davis. Let me just deal with boxing
a little bit. Tyson Fury, for those who do not know,
just had a title fight for the undisputed heavyweight champion
of the world. Right he went against a Ukrainian guy.
(53:48):
I could never get his name right, but he's a
very talented boxer. I watched this fight and I truly
believe Tyson won to fight. But here's the thing about
being a warrior. Sometimes you got to know when to
hold him and when to fold him. You gotta know
when to go down. Tyson found itself in a very
interesting scenario in the eighth round. In my opinion, if
(54:10):
he would have just went down faster, we have a
different conversation at the end of the match. But this
is what the encounter was, and this is what I
believe lost this fight.
Speaker 1 (54:20):
For Tyson Fury. Pay attention and he's gonna.
Speaker 2 (54:47):
So he got what's called a standing eight count on that.
A lot of people are arguing that they should have
stopped to fight there. I think he should have went
on down. But maybe if he goes down he doesn't
get up. I don't know, because he is very rattled.
But I think he took too much extra damage and
it was too late in the fight. So this happened
in like round eight. You only got three or four
(55:08):
more rounds. This is now burnt into these judges head.
The level of pressure and the level of beating you
just took right here is literally fresh on their minds.
So I think it was a mistake from that aspect.
I don't think he had the wiggle room to play
with it in the way that he did. If you
(55:28):
paid attention to the fight, Tyson would do He was
slipping and dipping. He was in that plane. This is
how you know it was. To me, he felt comfortable
in there. But let's look at his press conference. See
what he said was.
Speaker 6 (55:42):
I thought it was going to stop it. He looked
so much in control of the fight, but then when
he got caught on the nose, in my opinion, he
lost his concentration just for a moment, and then the
next round obviously there was a ten eight round. Personally
felt I agreed with the judge who gave it to Tyson,
But no sour grapes, no cry baby stuff. We got
(56:04):
a unified champion and that is it. And we congratulate
him and his team on putting a great event together,
a brilliant event here in the Kingdom, his excellency, you know,
thanks to hit, his excellency, this happened, and what a
great nights and the other fights on the card. This
has been a brilliant, brilliant night for boxing, and we
(56:27):
should celebrate what we watched because these guys show true
grip all the way through.
Speaker 8 (56:37):
Wells Tyson, you've earned all the money in the world
that you need. You've got eight an eighth baby on
the way.
Speaker 1 (56:44):
You proved yourself with.
Speaker 4 (56:46):
The not confirmed to eight babies not confouned. You proved
it not yet anyway.
Speaker 8 (56:53):
You proved yourself of the world of fights. Getting up
in that round nine. Why are you getting up off
the floor? What is in your read that's making He's
got a water fight. He thinks he's doing it for
a nation. I don't know how you did it, mate.
Speaker 4 (57:06):
You know what, I just want to say, thank you
to God in the writing name of Jesus. We put
on a good fight for the fans. You know, I
always say it's about getting paid and getting laid, and
we did that tonight. I thank Alexander for the for
the good fight. It was a close fight. You know,
I believed that I thought I did enough. But you know,
I'm not a judge. I can't judge a fight while
(57:26):
i'm boxing it. You know, if they would have said
to me in the last round or whatever, you down,
go out and try and finish him, I would have
done that. But we believe, everyone in the corner believe
we were up. You know, alls I had to do
was just keep boxing and doing what I was doing,
and you know I was getting it. But it was
what it was. I'm not going to cry about spilled milk.
I've had plenty of victories and I've gave God the glory.
I've had this one loss and a close, close fight,
(57:48):
you know, with a good, good man like USA, and
it was what it was. I tried my best in there.
I was having a lot of fun. Actually, I don't
know if he looked like when I was playing around
and hands behind my back. I was enjoying it. You know,
he's a good fighter, Alexander, and I was catching him
and he was catching me and it was a good fight.
So I hope you guys enjoyed as much as I did.
Came punching the face.
Speaker 1 (58:09):
Yes, graduated, first time com performance.
Speaker 4 (58:14):
Thank you.
Speaker 6 (58:17):
Yet, what point did you feel that he started.
Speaker 4 (58:21):
To get involved For the first six rounds he maybe
nicked one of the rounds and yeah, maybe, and then
going forward, I believe I want a few of the
last rounds as well, So I'm not sure. You know
if I won the first say I won five. For
the first six, and then the next six I won
a few as well, So I sten it was close.
Speaker 1 (58:38):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (58:39):
I don't know. I said, I tried, me, asked, and
it was what it was to come up short. One
of the judges had me winning and you other two didn't,
so I can't complain about it. Thank you, guys. I
appreciate you.
Speaker 7 (58:51):
Uh uh tysand Obviously you've consistently said that you're the
best heavyweight of this generation. I'm sure a lost wasn't
in your imagination. First of all, congrastation on the performance,
But how do you feel right now? You know, with
something that you never thought would really would really happen.
Speaker 4 (59:10):
Let me tell you, I'm very happy in my mind.
I did the best accord and I thought I won
the fight, but it was what it was. I'm happy
with the performance. You know, both men's got paid and
both men's going home to the lovely wives and children,
and that's what it's about. We're put on a show
for the fans. You know, thirty seven and thirty six
year old we're not young kids anymore. We're at the
end of our careers and we're put in a brilliant
fight tonight. So I'm proud of myself, you know what
(59:31):
I mean. I'm proud of in that ninth round, I
was hitting, I was hurt, and I rallied on back.
That's what the GK does, and it was what it was.
I'd just spankful that both got out there, out of
there ringing one piece and go on to the next one.
Speaker 6 (59:42):
True British grit, that's what this is. This man, true
brick grit.
Speaker 4 (59:47):
Thank you, guys.
Speaker 2 (59:52):
What I wanted to ask the question, please, I think
Tyson fur kind of won to fight. If you I've
been watching Javonte Davis too. He he has a fight
with Frank Martin coming up. Javonte is giving me Floyd
money made in that first ever when he first turned
the money made. It seems like he's trying to come
into a personality that helps with selling the fights. I
(01:00:15):
don't know, he may have to be careful with that.
But what Mayweather done, man, everyone watched, and so people
know whether you watch, if you love me or hate me,
it still can win. And so people are literally trying
to go down the same Mayweather alli because he positioned
himself as making more money than everybody from the from
the spoil to boxing. But if Tyson would have went
(01:00:38):
down in that fight, man, I just think it would
have it would have it would have been a different outcome.
He took like nine extra blows for nothing, Like, Bro,
you can't just take nine blows in front of the
judges and they just don't look at it like it
means nothing, Bro, not gonna happen. So another episode, man,
hopefully hopefully y'all enjoy it. Come to Patreon for the vibes.
(01:00:58):
Big Loon is up there, Parks, love y'all, love y'all
for sure, for sure, for sure, for sure, for sure,
for sure, man, love y'all for real, real game
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