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Speaker 2 (01:32):
Diddy has just been sentenced to fifty months in the
federal prison as his sentencing hearing was just held a
day or two ago, and we got some really interesting
reactions from not only people, but from him his family.
If you understand some of what the core proceedings look like,

(01:53):
if you were paying attention, you've seen were kind of
early on in the proceedings that judge said, I agree
with the guidelines that y'all at forth, and those guidelines
was all way up to eleven years and just him
agreeing early on is an indicator of the result that
you will be looking forward to. You started in a hole,

(02:15):
if you ask me, did he then put hisself in
a scenario where he dug that hole even deeper when
there were allegations of him booking a speaking engagement before
he even went to a citizen here and bypassing the
judge outcome already planning on being on the outside and
speaking on behalf of what he categorizes as his struggle

(02:38):
and his ability to help the next person look at
life through a different lens. But I think it plays
against you in court. There is no way to spend it.
You gotta address it, but you can't spend it. And
so you've seen his lawyers come out and front face
and say that this isn't a speaking engagement like a

(02:59):
traditional part already, this is him trying to give back
and help people who are in need, and they try
to address it in a way where the course can
at least put something on the record on the other side.
But I understand from a lawyer's standpoint that you had
to view that as being very detrimental that that information
came out at the time that it came out, in

(03:20):
the middle of us trying to convince the judge to
go with the lower side of the guidelines and consider
a twenty four month sentence. And then we realized early
on that he's already agreed with the eleven year guidelines
that's been put on the table. So we got us
shooting at twenty four months, them shooting at eleven If

(03:43):
you ask me, it is not reasonable to believe that
a brand new judge would make such an irrational decision
right and ignore the government's recommendation as it pertains to
the eleven year guidelines. So he had to consider that.
That's why, in my opinion, you see the five years,
because he can't just not consider what they put on

(04:06):
the table. He's too new to let his nuts hang
in that way. And for people who don't understand what
that means, ask somebody that can ask somebody did it
was seen crying as well. Man, I think he truly
thought that he would be out.

Speaker 1 (04:22):
I wouldn't.

Speaker 2 (04:22):
I wouldn't have booked any kind of speaking engagement. I
just think, if you're asking me, that's that's a bad
move out well around, to ignore the legal process in
a way where you just go ahead and book some shit.
I think that's interesting, you know, speaking of Diddy, we
want to dive right back into it. Speaking of Diddy,

(04:42):
he has been sentenced to fifty months.

Speaker 1 (04:45):
If you're asking me, this is.

Speaker 2 (04:47):
A very harsh sentencing if we look at what he's
been charged with and convicted of. I'm not speaking about
some of the ancillary the mitigating factors that I do
underst stand in the federal government to consider when they
are making these kind of diseases and choices. I definitely

(05:08):
understand their stance, But just from someone as an onlooker
looking at it, fifty months for the man Act in
prostitution is if you're asking me, just based on those
charges in the precedent that's been set in the court room,
it feels like it feels like that there was a reach.

(05:32):
What that being said, we don't want to minimize the
effect that any victims have encountered on that journey as
it pertains to this scenario and moving forward in their lives.
You know, I definitely don't want to stand on the
side of trying to minimize or negate whatever someone has
been through. That's not my vibe eating so I want

(05:54):
to be clear with that. I also want to say this,
We're going to get to why that fifty months came
down on some of the steps he took to try
to plead his case and some of the mistakes I
think he made as well. We're definitely going to look
into that. What I would like to do right now
is take a look at the video as they break
down exactly what took place.

Speaker 1 (06:14):
Pay attention sceans as Jenny's family.

Speaker 3 (06:16):
Came to court.

Speaker 4 (06:18):
Chaotic scenes as Jenny's family came to court to support
him at his sentencing. His mother Janice was followed by
his son Quincy and three daughters, who entered court hand
in hand. Another son and his girlfriend were also there
to show their support. Diddy was convicted of transportation to

(06:39):
engage in prostitution, but found not guilty of more serious
charges of prosecution. Witness the former exotic dancer known as
the Punisher, called for Diddy to be free.

Speaker 5 (06:51):
I do believe justice is time served, you know, and
that's because I'm strict on what the law is. You know,
his conviction, his transportation, and you know, it's kind of
hard to do about multiple years of long perers in
jail for pay for transportation.

Speaker 4 (07:08):
In a dramatic moment, six of Ditty's children gathered around
a lectern and pleaded with the judge to set him free.
The fifty five year old disgraced music mogul appeared to
be crying when his son Quincy said he is totally
transformed and will never again jeopardize his freedom.

Speaker 6 (07:25):
The daughters, especially barely able to hold it together, just
crying so much looking at their father. Even we saw
Sean Ditty comes put his head into his hands when
one of his daughters started speaking.

Speaker 4 (07:38):
But Ditty's ex girlfriend, Cassie Ventura, who was severely beaten
in this notorious surveillance video, wrote to the judge supporting
the prosecution's call for an eleven year prison sentence. His
victims and survivors will never be safe, she wrote. The
defense played an eleven minute video portraying Ditty as a
loving dad, a dutiful son, caring for his sick mom,

(08:03):
grieving after the death of Kim Porter, the mother of
three of his children, and doing good works like.

Speaker 1 (08:10):
Helping found a charter school. In the prompts.

Speaker 6 (08:15):
Quite a different Seawan Diddy combs that defense counsel is
showing compared to the prosecution.

Speaker 2 (08:26):
When you get into these kind of scenarios in the
situation and you know, made a lot of money, code
a lot of ground, they gonna god hit you with
the disgrace. Yeah, the disgrace music mogul. It's little things
like that that I pay attention to. Just like yo, bro,
they crazy man, they throw that in that Yeah, you
disgraced music mogul Sean Diddy Combs craziness paid attent.

Speaker 3 (08:51):
More than a year after his arrest made headlines around
the world. Today, Sean Diddy comb sentenced to fifty months
just over four years in federal prison. Combs's team reacting
to the sentence, it.

Speaker 1 (09:06):
Is really a sad day for everybody.

Speaker 7 (09:10):
What we feel happened today was that the judge acted
as a thirteenth juror that we did not choose.

Speaker 3 (09:16):
Meanwhile, one juror from Combs's trial telling ABC News they
think the Rep Mogul quote got off easy. Combs will
get credit for time served for the past two.

Speaker 1 (09:26):
Years on the federal system.

Speaker 2 (09:28):
You only my hold on my question would be before
we even get in anything else, because according to what
he just said or what they just said in the
narration of this video, is that one of the jurors
said that he got off easy. Is that the same
jury that didn't convict him of all of those other

(09:49):
aspects of his criminal trial. Have someone got to them
and influenced them in some kind of way, Because if
you're asking me, you know, I don't know if it's
the sa I'm Jerry, but if it is that's a
question for me because it's like, Yo, y'all just said
that he wasn't guilty on all of this stuff and
that the government didn't do a terrific job that wasn't

(10:12):
efficient as it pertains to set out their case to
prove the allegations that they had. Again, Sean, did he
comb So now y'all get in there and say he
got off easy by getting fifty months for prostitution.

Speaker 1 (10:27):
That's an interesting fact.

Speaker 8 (10:28):
Pay attention, serve eighty five percent of the actual prison
time that you have been given.

Speaker 1 (10:34):
Rough math, and all this.

Speaker 8 (10:35):
Said and done, Shawn Consey is spending the next two
years and potentially eight months in prison, meaning he could
get out in the spring or summer of twenty twenty eight.

Speaker 3 (10:45):
Kessa Ventoria's lawyer, Doug Wigdor saying in part tonight, well
nothing can undo the trauma caused by Cones. The sentence
imposted today recognizes the impact of the serious offenses he committed.
Tons of children returning to their New York City hotel
quietly tonight without him. After a dramatic day in court, Colms'

(11:05):
defense team presenting this over ten minute long video that
focused on him as a father and a professional.

Speaker 1 (11:16):
Cops.

Speaker 5 (11:17):
I love you, thanks for loving us, Thank you for
loving me, thank you for inspiring.

Speaker 8 (11:22):
For most defendants, they don't have the resources, nor the time,
nor an attorney with the ability. You can criticize it
however you want, but it did show him in a
positive light, both in terms of hphilanthropy and him as
a father.

Speaker 3 (11:35):
The defense also presenting this adult continue education course Colmes
reportedly taught to inmates while in prison. Course materials for
the six week program including class titles like successful people
do what unsuccessful people won't do with built in goals
and lessons like you can make money, but you can't
make time.

Speaker 9 (11:54):
This was an atypical sentencing hearing compared to what we
usually see in Manhattan Federal Court of Shawn Colmbs's defense
attorneys gave lengthy remarks who spoke almost as character witnesses
after the defense called no witnesses during trial.

Speaker 3 (12:09):
The defense's presentation of far cry from what jurors saw
during Combs's trial, where video and audio of Comb's so
called freakofs were shown, as well as this video of
Combe's appearing to physically assault his former partner Cassie Ventura
in July, the jury found Comb's guilty of two counts
of transportation to engage in prostitution, each count carrying a

(12:32):
maximum sentence of ten years in prison. He was found
not guilty of the more serious counts of sex trafficking
and racketeering conspiracy, which carried a potential life sentence.

Speaker 9 (12:42):
Shawn Combs sat on his hands, expressionless as the judge
imposed the sentence of four years in prison. He really
wanted to be tasting freedom.

Speaker 3 (12:53):
At sentencing, Comb's speaking out to the courtroom tearfully apologizing,
I hate myself right now, Comb said, I've been stripped
down to nothing. I really am truly sorry for it all,
no matter what they said.

Speaker 9 (13:06):
He said. One of the most frustrating things is that
he had to remain silent and could not express his
remorse until now, and he apologized first to Cassie Ventura
and to Jane, his other girlfriend.

Speaker 3 (13:22):
One by one, six of Combs's children speaking out, pleading
for their father to be let out of prison.

Speaker 9 (13:28):
Combs appeared to sob as they spoke, perhaps realizing the
impact his criminal conviction has had on them.

Speaker 3 (13:35):
In both sides submitting letters either supporting or opposing Combs's release.
Kessi Ventura, now a mother of three, writing I hope
that your decision considers the truths at hand. The jury
failed to see, and my worries that Sean Combs or
his associates will come after me and my family is
my reality. Comb's facing some backlash from prosecutors, claiming his

(13:58):
apology amounted to lip servant and that he already get
planned for life after prison comes his leader attorney Tenny Garago,
speaking exclusively to ABC, the.

Speaker 10 (14:08):
Jury made it very clear in their verdict that.

Speaker 2 (14:11):
They let me say this too, because I do want
to be clear about this. This young lady continues to
speak about YO, I don't want them coming after me
and my family. And as much as you know, you
can wave that off and be like, YO, she's overreacted.
The truth of the matter is that's a real thing

(14:32):
for her. That's something she really have to consider.

Speaker 10 (14:34):
That.

Speaker 2 (14:35):
That's a powerful dude with a lot of money, with
people that love him, and he has effectively been tooken
to a place that no one comes back the same from.
I want to be clear about the jail house, your money,
and I'll let it go out the wind and nobody
come back.

Speaker 1 (14:53):
The same.

Speaker 2 (14:55):
It does something to you, especially as sixty years old.
A reason you saw Diddy crying when they got when
they when they handed out them fifty bucks. He wasn't
crying because you know, out of joy or because he's
having the greatest time in the.

Speaker 1 (15:13):
Fucking jail house.

Speaker 2 (15:14):
And I'm sure that he's getting some favor because he
is who he is, and human beings are human beings,
meaning that there's something with the human nature that if
you are fan of someone, you treat them differently then
you treat everyone else. Did he being a mogul for

(15:35):
the last twenty five years, I think there's a high
possibility that someone that works somewhere in position at the
jail would look out for Diddy. It also is his lifestyle,
like being in jail for Diddy at sixty years old
is probably worser than growing up in Harlem anything he's

(15:55):
ever been through. Right, of course, we know, like if
we all come from humble beginnings, but we were blessed
enough to eat, we were blessed enough to have a
mattress or be able to have free wheel and go
our doors and enjoy ourselves and you know, be amongst
our family at sixty years old being in jail for Diddy,

(16:15):
if you're asking me, this is worse than what he
went through at his humble beginnings. Some people can argue
that jail circumstances is torture, Like, it's a tortuous environment,
especially for someone like him. You gotta remember, a dude
been riding private just for the last twenty five years.
He owns a jet like, He's not one of these

(16:37):
guys that like this dude had real long money. You understand.
He sleep on fritch sheets. She's five ten thousand dollars
for one pair. He been doing it for thirty years,
used to having the finess of the finings. Now they
relegate him to a concrete slab with a six inch mac.

Speaker 10 (17:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (17:00):
Nah, you laying on concrete slab.

Speaker 10 (17:02):
Man.

Speaker 1 (17:02):
You might be a player that got you know, one.

Speaker 2 (17:04):
Or two of the little the little bullshit mattresses or something,
But yo, you in a bad scenario, like, especially for
someone that's been sleeping on the southest of the South.
The nigga been sleeping on the southest of the South
his entire thirty years, the last thirty years of his life,

(17:25):
he been sleeping on some of the softest motherfucker sheets
you can find. And you wondering why he crying? Yeah,
you know he crying. You understand me. You know he
crying and niggas pitching him shit all day and now nigga,
did it get business? Niggas is coming up to him
all day every day, bared in him. He gotta really

(17:47):
put a dig in front of him. Man, nobody bothers
a bruh man.

Speaker 1 (17:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (17:52):
Nah, he gotta be some kind of protocol, like he
got assistant or some com knowing niggas bothered in him,
you understand. And now he probably back in the spot
in that way.

Speaker 1 (18:02):
It's just normal. That's just dude. That's did it.

Speaker 2 (18:04):
But somebody in their bar then dude about something at
all times. All this shit the dough and you get
to have your own me time and all that. That's
over with. And he's sixty years old, My nigga. You
get somebody four five years that's sixty years old, that's
like a twenty year center. Yeah, they're like a twenty

(18:26):
year sentence for a nigga, Like did it?

Speaker 10 (18:29):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (18:29):
Nah, man, you aven't broken him all way down. You
broke his shotgun down.

Speaker 1 (18:34):
You didn't.

Speaker 2 (18:35):
I want to speak about Cassie's position, because again, as
I'm hearing them speak, it's like, let's be honest, man, like,
whether it's substantiated or not, whether that's proof to the
contrary or not. I believe it's fair for her to
think in her mind that somebody might be trying to
get me because you know what, you know, you just

(18:55):
took a nigga through a.

Speaker 1 (18:56):
Mean, mean thing.

Speaker 10 (18:58):
Man.

Speaker 2 (18:59):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you just took a nigga through a
mean thing.

Speaker 10 (19:03):
Man.

Speaker 1 (19:04):
You understand me.

Speaker 2 (19:05):
Now, you know, I ain't speaking to whether or not
she should have us she shouldn't have.

Speaker 1 (19:09):
That ain't my position. But the fact is, you know.

Speaker 2 (19:14):
That dude probably deep down in his heart saying, Surety
took me through a mean thing.

Speaker 1 (19:19):
Boy.

Speaker 2 (19:20):
That's why I say some people lick back, really be
a lick back. That's why I be trying to cover
my ground. Man, make sure the women. Man, look man,
y'all stop. Man, look hey, look man, don't be hating
me man and putting that in the universe, man, cause man,
it be really people praying that you fail, praying that

(19:40):
you fall down, praying that don't.

Speaker 1 (19:42):
Nothing go your way.

Speaker 2 (19:45):
It really be people praying that shit, My nigga, And
a lot of times it'll be someone that you shared
nights with, you share a bed with, shared a home with.
There'll be somewhat praying against you. You've already shared energy
with them, you've already been intimate with them at some point,
and there'll be someone praying that you fall. Because that's

(20:08):
the only way I can laugh at it. I can't
laugh when he's shining. I gotta just shut up and
be quiet when he's shining. But as soon as he fall,
I can go to laughing. Man, God give me something
to laugh at with these sucker as niggas. That's some
bitch ass niggas prayer. God give me something to laugh
at when he come to that nigga. Yeah, make him

(20:31):
fall and bump his head, make him lose something me
care about, make him stumble, make him break your leg,
Let me see some God, it's people praying on your downfall, homie.
And a woman's scoring, she don't have no finished line, Like,

(20:52):
I don't even know mentally what that'll do to me.
Someone that I was in love with talking about marrying
shot and I was really thinking about this that in
the third and now that I'm in jail, I paid
her thirty million dollars. I've been took the trial when
my entire life was in the rafters, it was in question.

(21:14):
I'm now at my sentencing and she's still showing up
with letters. Man, how much I done it? Shorty man?
I know the Jeorge looking at it like, man, how
much you've done to this woman?

Speaker 10 (21:24):
Man?

Speaker 2 (21:24):
Like they probably saying, man, hell man, she she owned that.

Speaker 1 (21:28):
Man. They lick back. Be a motherfucker man.

Speaker 2 (21:31):
Word to fat you understand, they get back, be a
motherfucker man, and everybody get back. Don't come in the
traditional sense. See that's the problem, y'all. Niggas looking for
a stab in the back. They putting poison in your
bloodstream though. Yeah, nah, see a getback. Ain't a stab
in the back, no more. Nigga put poison in your

(21:53):
blood stream.

Speaker 1 (21:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (21:55):
You ain't never seen a knife. Nigga ain't never pulled
a knife out on you. Nigga put yeah, yeah, So
you got to pay attention to the niga.

Speaker 1 (22:03):
Man, pay attention though, Let's keep watching.

Speaker 10 (22:05):
But in him of the sex trafficking and the RICO counts,
they did not find there was any coercion with the
prostitution and here I think not guilty means not guilty.

Speaker 9 (22:20):
But the judge suggested he couldn't be blind to the
sum total of Colmes's conduct. He had to send a message.

Speaker 10 (22:27):
He said, we owned the violence at this trial. My
opening was very clear. You know, we accept the domestic violence,
we take ownership of it, and we accept responsibility for it.
But domestic violence is not what he was convicted of.
He was convicted of transportation for prostitution.

Speaker 9 (22:46):
De Shaun Colmbs had changed. Man. You've been with him
so long, for this entire year long prosecution.

Speaker 10 (22:53):
I can say, from the bottom of my heart more
than I think anybody else truly on this team can
say that he is a change hey man.

Speaker 3 (23:00):
The case against Colmb's breaking down. The decades long veneer,
the musical mogul and entrepreneur had built cracks in Comb's
glamorous persona first surface when his ex girlfriend Cassie Ventur
found a civil lawsuit against him in late twenty twenty three,
which he settled the next day, paying Venteur twenty million
dollars with no admission of wrongdoing. Six months later, this

(23:23):
shocking video from a hotel surveillance camera depicting colmb's physically
assaulting Cassie. Though Combs first denied any wrongdoing, after the
video's release, he spoke out on social media, I.

Speaker 2 (23:35):
Mean I had robbed bottom, but I made no excuses.

Speaker 11 (23:40):
My behavior on that video is inexcusable.

Speaker 3 (23:43):
But that hotel footage became crucial evidence at trial, along
with Cassie's four days of emotional testimony, Combs's ex girlfriend
describing in detail his alleged physical assaults, threats, and incidents
known as frea calls. She said Combs first proposed the
encounters that he called voriurism when he would watch me

(24:04):
have intercourse and sexual activity with a third party, specifically
another man, within the first year of their relationship. I
knew it wasn't something I wanted to be doing, but
I was in love and wanting to make him happy.
I didn't feel like I had much of a choice,
didn't really know what no could turn into.

Speaker 8 (24:22):
The juriesaw anywhere from forty five to sixty minutes of
videos of freak Cofts, and you can see the full
spectrum of reactions from people raised eyebrows, kind of clutching
their pearls, gasping, turning away, and some people just staring
intently taking notes.

Speaker 3 (24:37):
Defense attorneys portray Cassie as a willing participant in a
consensual relationship, presenting text messages that seemingly show Cassie at
times initiating the freak offs, at one point texting freak
off with a girl, Combs responding, what makes you want
to do that?

Speaker 8 (24:53):
But the actual ages of the jurors, at least half
of them, were from fifty one to seventy four years old.
And when you're talking about the heart of a case
being about consent, I can see how a person who
is twenty would have a very different opinion of what
consent is if they're thirty or sixty five, And so
for people being fifty and above, I think that went
to the heart of the decision in this case.

Speaker 3 (25:16):
Also key to the government's case against Combs the testimony
of another former girlfriend, who went by the pseudonym Jane.
Over several days of the stand Jane tearfully described her
tumultuous three year relationship with Combs, which began in twenty
twenty one and ended when he got arrested in twenty
twenty four.

Speaker 1 (25:35):
You got to believe what you want.

Speaker 11 (25:36):
It was the last time you loved and cursing and
meet disrespecting.

Speaker 3 (25:40):
Me yourors hearing his own words and this voice note
ined into evidence by the prosecution. Marc Agnifilo, one of
Combs's defense attorneys, delivered a theatrical closing argument, digging into
the testimony by Cassie Ventur, painting a portrait of a
quote great modern love story of an intense loving relationship
that had its ups and downs. But today Combs's expression

(26:02):
of accountability and remorse wasn't enough. Judge your own Supermanian
saying a history of good works can't wash away their
record in this case. Comb's still facing dozens of civil
suits as well.

Speaker 8 (26:15):
Now those federal criminal case is over, those will start
back up, those cases where Shawn Coms will be asked
to give depositions or the cases will continue, and ultimately
he will either have to settle or go to trial.
We're going to see more of the allegations against Shawn Combs.

Speaker 12 (26:30):
Sean Ditty Combs sentenced to more than four years in
federal prison. It was an emotional sentencing hearing for his family,
capping a year's long case against the music mogul for
transporting people across state lines for sexual encounters. Sean Ditty
Combs was acquitted on the more serious sex trafficking charges.

(26:50):
The sentence means that he will likely be released in
about three years, as he has already served one year
in jail. Sean Ditty Combs was acquitted on the more
serious is sex trafficking charges as we just said, and
we will have more on this story. Let's go live
to Fox eleven's Ed Laskos and Westwood with.

Speaker 3 (27:08):
More Ed.

Speaker 1 (27:11):
And Laura.

Speaker 7 (27:12):
It's finally sentencing day for Sean Diddy Combs, four years
two months behind bars. His legal team wanted a much
shorter sentence fourteen months. Prosecuted prosecutors wanted a lot longer
of a time, a sentence up to eleven years. And
in the end though this actual sentence really just the
latest controversy in this case. Let's get to it. To
the video we go. Check at this the scene Manhattan,

(27:32):
the Federal courthouse. Right after that sentencing, hearing Combs, his family,
his mom leaving there onlookers waving and shouting out encouragement
to the Sean did he Combs in court, apologizing, calling
his behavior disgusting, disgraceful, sick, as he said and then
his legal team used an eleven minute video trying to
portray did He as a family man of father, a mentor,

(27:54):
a philanthropist, trying to get that sentence lowered, but the
judge not buying it, and prosecutors even fire back to
all of this, saying, in this case, it is not
about the freak offs and the wild hotel nights, but
it's really about a case involving the victims. The judge
followed that argument, that rule if you will, and handed
down that sentence, and then it brings what we've been
watching here in LA through the Southland when this case

(28:16):
and the investigation really exploded March last year. Remember that
federal relations with Fox eleven US and their cameras the
only ones there at this exclusive mansion, exclusive area in
the Los Angeles city limits where Diddy's mansion rated by
the Feds, and the TMZ out with the video showing
the outcome of that raid, with the videotape seized, baby
oil seized, all used to tie down that conviction of

(28:39):
sex related crimes, and then you have the sentence, the
sentence that comes with four years two months. The reaction
to it many saying, well, they followed the case, and
they thought it would be a lot longer time behind bars.

Speaker 1 (28:49):
Listen, I am a.

Speaker 13 (28:50):
Bit shocked because he was a mogul, but doesn't surprise
me from all those parties and things you see on
the internet.

Speaker 1 (28:58):
You think you should have been a lot longer. Oh yeah, yeah,
a little bit for that amount of evidence. I was
thinking at least like twenty thirty. Right, that's a shock,
a surprise for sure. You thought it would be longer.

Speaker 14 (29:11):
I thought it would be much longer, at least at
least ten.

Speaker 1 (29:16):
Years because of all the victims, exactly all.

Speaker 14 (29:19):
Of the victims, and maybe even all of the other
things like he's done in the.

Speaker 13 (29:24):
Past, resurrect his career, I mean, what is it going
to be at the stature? Absolutely not. Are people are
still going to be in line with him because of
his connections and just who he is and in the
entertainment world, absolutely so bounce back, though, I don't know
if it'll be the same, but you know he'll he'll
didd bop in and do a little shake and you
know he'll do something.

Speaker 2 (29:45):
So you see that a lot of people were basically
saying that they think you should have even got more time.
That if you're asking me for what he was charged with.
I'm not necessarily looking for or looking into the acquitted,
but heay or some of the things that maybe did
in this past. Now, I do understand the federal guidelines.

(30:06):
I mean, I understand how their sentencing enhancements work and
how they incorporate relevant conduct into whatever your scenario is
as it pertains to the federal system. But again, I'll
explain this one last time. I just think that it
was going to be hard for him to ignore the
fact that they're asking for eleven years, the probation officers

(30:28):
asking for I think five or six years. This is
a brand new judge in a brand new seat. I
don't see him just totally ignoring the suggestions from the
federal government or from the probationinari office. Here's one thing
I didn't appreciate about how they came to what they
arrived to as it pertains to Diddy's behavior leading up

(30:53):
to the sentencing hearing date. You heard the judge kind
of allude to the fact that Diddy has not been remorseful,
hasn't tooken responsibility, took an accountability for all of the
victims that have been affected by his behavior and one

(31:14):
hundred percent right, we can definitely look into that. But
the way that the judge gauged it was Diddy was
just using the judicial system's legal process to appeal his conviction. Now,
if I'm being punished for that in the eyes of
the judge, I don't like that precedent that's being sent

(31:37):
because if you're asking me, part of what the judge
was saying is that he didn't appreciate the fact that
you're filing all these appeals and basically saying in these
appeals that, yo, I don't believe the man. That makes
sense for me to be charged with it because this
is a victimless crime.

Speaker 1 (31:53):
I wasn't involved. I was looking.

Speaker 2 (31:55):
I hired him for entertainment, now for sex, like you're
trying to work loopholes which are available in the legal system.

Speaker 1 (32:03):
So I'm not sure.

Speaker 2 (32:05):
I'm having a hard time wrapping my brain around how
the judge can consider that disrespectful. It should not negatively
affect me to be utilizing the judicial systems avenues to
try to do what I need to do to appeal
my case. But they brought that up and said he
didn't take responsibility, and right after that you saw, did

(32:27):
he lean into trying to take responsibility. It's just too
late at this point. Now that may have been a
trick to make you do that. I'm not sure if
they can use some of these statements against you in
other ways in other court proceedings, because shortly after that,
Diddy then comes out and he apologizes to Cassie, apologizes

(32:49):
for his behavior.

Speaker 1 (32:50):
He knows he's a change man.

Speaker 2 (32:51):
He said a lot of different things that if you're
asking me, does take accountability and lean into that accountability aspect.
But I just think it was too late in the game.
You had already let him say something about it.

Speaker 1 (33:03):
You indeed.

Speaker 2 (33:06):
But I don't like the fact that they're trying to
hold against a man that he was trying to appeal
his case and that says that he doesn't take it shows.

Speaker 1 (33:15):
A lack of accountability.

Speaker 2 (33:17):
I just I just don't like that the legal process
is there for a reason. I should be able to
appeal my case. That's literally a part of the journey.
Anybody that goes against the fees or the state and
gets any kind of substantial amount of time, they're gonna
work to appeal some sort of process or something on
the case to try to get out of jail. These

(33:39):
people talk about jails like it's they're so cavalier when
they speak about it, like it's not probably the worst
place ever for someone to be at, especially at sixty
years old, Like he's gonna exercise every avenue to try
to relinquish hisself from out of the jaw's mouth or
the judicial system. And I don't see how they can
be considered distres or him lacking accountability because his lawyers

(34:03):
are looking at whatever avenues that take place.

Speaker 1 (34:06):
But that he is sixty years old man. Let that
not fall on deathls.

Speaker 2 (34:10):
He's a sixty year old man in a federal prison
that's been rich for the last thirty years. There's a
different kind of sleep on some of the mattresses that
he was sleeping on. There's a different kind of comfort
in the kind of homes he was living in, the
kind of space that he was afforded to have. Right
now he's living in the federal prison.

Speaker 1 (34:29):
Now.

Speaker 2 (34:29):
He should not be viewed any different from anyone else.
I'm not speaking towards the fact that, oh, he's a celebrity,
let him out, he's rich, let him out. I'm speaking
to the fact of the fall from grace, the different
levels in the experiences that he's having and that his
body is having. Right because again he's been sleeping on

(34:51):
the finest of finess.

Speaker 1 (34:53):
Of mattresses and sheet sets.

Speaker 2 (34:56):
Yeah, this has been Yeah, so now he and there
this is rough on him. And I say that to
say that desperation will call for you to, you know,
try to peel some parts of this to see if
we can get you back out of jail. That's the
whole point that I'm making. But Diddy is gonna be
locked up for fifty months. We're looking at fifty fifty

(35:17):
roller letter. This letter was a fake letter. Of course,
everybody know it was a fake letter. But I be
thinking fifty is going he be going a little too
far with this thing.

Speaker 1 (35:27):
You understand.

Speaker 2 (35:28):
It's like, Yo, that letter can really get to them
people and affect them people. You folks are rich, you
got twenty something million followers.

Speaker 1 (35:35):
But I don't know. I guess fifty fifty gets a pass. Man.

Speaker 2 (35:39):
Niggas fuck with fifty on a certain kind of level
to where fifty get a pass, he get to do
shit like that, Because if it was somebody else, people
will be saying, Yo, that's a fuck nigga right there, boy,
And I fuck with fifty, So I ain't calling him
no fuck nigga, but I'm saying, I'm knowing that the
streets and people gonna be saying that I slick fuck
with fifty.

Speaker 1 (35:57):
I don't like this.

Speaker 2 (35:59):
I don't like like this, like he ain't about the program.
So I'm just telling you I don't like things like this,
but I fuck with fifty. Fifty is a nigga I
look at and say, Yo, this is how you maneuver
through this industry, ruthless, right. I respect that. But when
it comes to these kind of things that nigga sixty
years old, like you know, and I hope it ain't

(36:22):
no dicking pussy shit, you know what I'm saying. That's
what I really be hoping because you know, out of
all the drama out of head in my life, all
the things that I done went through, I ain't really
doing no dicking pussy shit. You know what I'm saying.
I ain't really doing no beefing by no bros. And Yo,
you know what I'm saying, that's your old lady. She
don't win it, chose up. Let her choose up. Ain't

(36:45):
nobody tripping. But y'all, I ain't doing no tripping. Yeah,
let her choose up, because when God choose you, no
man can confuse you. You hear me. Yeah, I don't
choose up. Baby, I ain't doing no tripping. Yeah hit me,
Yeah you must be shitting me. But yeah, Fifty doing that.

Speaker 1 (37:06):
Man. I think.

Speaker 2 (37:08):
Fifty and Diddy's relationship it'll never ever ever, They're gonna
die enemies. I don't see fifty and Diddy ever making
up or being cool ever in life. I think the
relationship has been fractured in a way at this point
that there's no coming back. And then Diddy doing little

(37:28):
pitty shit like going to get your baby mama because
I'm beefing with you.

Speaker 1 (37:32):
Yeah, put her in the cow with me. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (37:34):
We hit it to the freak off where we're going back. Yeah,
we hit it to the freak golf. Yeah, you understand me.
I done talk to your baby mama into the freak off.
You understand me. So it's like it's like you understand me.
I'm seeing what's going but I'm just saying, like, bro,
them niggas, they relationship ain't gonna never be the same.

(37:55):
I don't think it'll ever be fixed. Fifty probably like, man,
you you went and got my baby mama. You took
it there bad. You took it there. Bet. Yeah, bet
you understand me. And you had a doing that. Boy,
You had my baby mama for working that one. Oh

(38:16):
them niggasyll motherfucker ain't there. I ain't even get a
chance to have a working that one. You made a
work that.

Speaker 1 (38:23):
One, y'all.

Speaker 4 (38:23):
Nigga.

Speaker 2 (38:24):
Man, Damn boygg got some envy toys to dawn, don't it.
We ain't triven by no women. Man, y'all take the women,
y'all go have a happy home with them women.

Speaker 1 (38:36):
You understand me at.

Speaker 2 (38:37):
What I try to tell fifty man, Let them folks
do whatever they want to do. Man, you ain't got
the Yeah, man, you understand me. We gotta stay player
about it, you know what I mean? We gotta yeah,
stay player, Always be a player. You understand me. Yeah,
never reject the player. Speaking of fracture relationships, Cardi being

(38:58):
Nicki Minaj, Now we doing about this Cardi being Nicki
Minaj fuel It continues to get worse and worse. I mean,
they've been beefing so long and they're both so charismatic.
I'll use that word that they've said everything you can
say to each other. So now they're hidding below the belt,

(39:20):
you know, And we're going to talk about how these
female beefs are probably worse th than the male beefs.

Speaker 1 (39:26):
And I'll tell you why. Just look at this video.

Speaker 2 (39:29):
They kind of summarizes what's going on with Cardi be
and Niki.

Speaker 1 (39:32):
Pay attention, you guys.

Speaker 15 (39:33):
So we got to talk about the drama that is
going on between Nicki Minaj and Cardi Bee. It all
went out on X the other night, and it has
been crazy to see the back and forth. It's something
that we've seen it before, but there is much more
being said. They're coming at each other and we're going
to get into everything that has been said online. So
if you missed what went down, or you just need
a little help sorting through the layers of the pettiness here,
I'm want to walk you through every single thing that
was said, what really means, how we got here, and
where the suit could go from here.

Speaker 11 (39:52):
Honestly, guys, it's just crazy.

Speaker 15 (39:53):
But Nicki Minaj and Cardibe's if you had to reunited
on it Tuesday, after Nikki threw some shots online mocking
Party's new album price comparing her lines to Barney. Then
Party decided to clap back, dragging her family over allegations.

Speaker 11 (40:03):
It turned into a hot mess.

Speaker 15 (40:04):
Now, over the years of these two have been pitted
against each other, and despite attempts to collaborate together, the
tension between them just really got the best of them,
and in twenty eighteen, they got into a physical altercation
at the Harper's Bizarre Icons Party. I don't know if
you guys remember this photo where Cardi had aknow on
her forehead, but that was this time with Nicki Minaj
and things just clearly having gone any better. In twenty
twenty five, so Carti recently came out with her latest album,
and around the time that this album came out, Mickey
Minaj tweeted it three twenty seven, twenty six, hen saying

(40:24):
at some new music obviously could be nothing, but it
didn't feel like nothing because then she said to every enabler,
never provoke a writer while they're writing. You joined the
game as a willing participant. Don't try to back out now.
Three seven, twenty six. Hashtag rock bottom Nation, hashtig rock inflation,
hashtag redonation.

Speaker 11 (40:37):
You failed.

Speaker 15 (40:37):
Let the reindeer games begin. We hashtag win again. Then
we get into the Cardi b drama.

Speaker 11 (40:41):
You guys.

Speaker 15 (40:42):
Nicki Minaj posted a now deleted tweet that said four
ninety nine and everyone knew exactly what she was referring
to Cardi's new album, am I the drama dropping to
four ninety nine. She then ripped apart Carti's song Magnet
and the lyrics that go ABCDEFG. These bees can't f
with me making fun of these lyrics, calling the rhymes
something that you would hear on Barney. She tweeted, Barney
be ABCDEFG rapped like Barney is still ugly, abcd EFG

(41:02):
surgery to look like me? Tell the rat ands hell
j z RICO fraud and perjury, abcd EFG pregnant play
with his bussy. She also tweeted raw dog and pregnant
with the fourth Babe Barney b BV HPV allegedly. Party
then gone online to say you must have missed me
in Aul crazy Now kiss my feet. Nothing more annoying
than a boored bee. The power I have making these
bees come out of rehab every time, go your effing room.
She then called her a Cain Barbie and also called

(41:23):
out her brother, who had been convicted of child crimes.
She said, ABCDFG, your man has to snatch pee pee
tastes like honeycomb. You're broke touching twelve year olds. Then
she called her a hain Barbie. She then tweeted ada
photo of Nicki Mauje's brother. She then joked, damn, she
was streaming magnet hard as hell, obviously poking fun of
the fact that Nicky was really paying attention to the
lyrics of her thong. Then she said, no, because I
was really baking ribs and making Londie brownies and here
comes this bee bothering me on a damn Monday. She

(41:45):
then said, why you keep bringing up my album? It's
not the gad you think it is. You've been in
the game like sixteen years. You need to compare yourself
to your peers that started around your time, Rihonna, Taylor, Swift, Drake.
Those are the numbers you need to be competing with,
and you can't because you're doing lower than all of them.

Speaker 11 (41:55):
I was in high school when you came out. What
that f is you comparing herself to me?

Speaker 10 (41:58):
For?

Speaker 15 (41:58):
She then said all right, now this is the it'swee
talking about my pregnancy, like you wasn't going to different
fertility doctors because you couldn't reproduce from all them scrambling
your eggs, not allegedly, Lord protect my babies. Nicky also
shared this photo of Cardi B as Barney and then
jay Z crying with money. Now how Cardi B and
Jay Z seemed to be wrapped up in all of
this drama with Nicki minaj It seems to be because
of a new song that Cardi B has released on
her new album. So Nicki Minaje has recently been very

(42:19):
vocal in accusing Ja Z and rock Nation and specifically
rock Nation CEO does are Prez of unfair business dealings.
She claims that she's owed up to two hundred million
dollars tied to her equity and title, which is Jaz's company.
And while on Cardi's new album one song titled Imaginary Players.
In the new track, Cardi B rapped about fame and
fashion and it is over a sample of jay Z's
song Imaginary Players. Cardi B seemed to say that jay
Z himself approved the final song. When she was doing

(42:40):
interviews and So I don't know if this song and
her getting this approval from jay Z has Dicky upset
since she's beefing with jay Z or what. But clearly
the drama's hot here and I don't think these two
will be working out anything anytime soon. Everything is extremely messy.
They're coming for each other in a bunch of different ways.
But just when you think it can't get any crazier,
while Nicky and Cardi B were going at it on Twitter,
I Spice posts this emoji and then it is said
that g tees a new song that it said to
be a disc track about Cardi B. And then a

(43:02):
audio clip surfaced online allegedly capturing Cardi B angrily talking.

Speaker 11 (43:05):
About the Ice Spice track.

Speaker 15 (43:06):
She also rejects comparisons while in this recording to Botto
or Nicki Minaj insinu wating She's not a key like Lotto.

Speaker 11 (43:13):
Well, you guys, here, I am popping in the video
once again.

Speaker 15 (43:15):
But because I'm editing this, well, actually I'm done editing
the Cardi B video and I'm uploading it. But I've
write into a problem because at this point in the
video I included this clip of Cardi B on the phone,
and she's like popping off, saying that she wants to
play ice pice. She's going off, she's calling lotto names,
she's saying all this stuff right that has to do
with the tweets, And I thought, well, she's claiming that
this phone call was leaked, So I don't know. I
just also didn't think that like phone calls were like

(43:36):
copyright Clay babble, but apparently they are because I uploaded
the video with.

Speaker 11 (43:41):
This phone call in it, and it immediately got blocked.

Speaker 15 (43:44):
Like I said, it was copy recclaimed, it was blocked,
and it said PCO Cardi B. And then it said
that WMG, which is Warner Music Group, which she assigned
to Atlantic. It's a part of Warner Music, but they're
the ones that are blocking this alleged leaked phone call that.

Speaker 11 (43:57):
Cardy was bleaming other people for putting out. And so
I don't know.

Speaker 15 (44:00):
I just found this whole thing very interesting that I
was getting this block from her team. But essentially in
this she was just popping off once saying like she
wants to fight hers saying that she's not like the
other rapearls, like she wants to fight and she's not
like Lotto.

Speaker 11 (44:13):
She's not like baking minagor like she wants to fight.

Speaker 10 (44:15):
Now.

Speaker 15 (44:15):
Since the leaked call came out, Cardi b publicly apologized
to Lotto, tweeting I was ranting and hot at the moment,
but I asked with Lotto heavy, I respect everything about her,
including her team. That's so sweet and Nope, I'm not
too prideful to apologize to somebody I really respect. So
this is my public apology and now I'm a privately
buy her a bag. She then tweets at Icepice's manager Jeam, saying,
but wait, James, because I just know you didn't only
record the beginning of that conversation. Go ahead, babe, post
the whole eleven minute cono when I spy said she

(44:36):
was in her feelings all because I said Sexy deserved
a BT Award and she had just won some iHeart award.
I wasn't even thinking about host it all. You came
to bang right. James un responded to Cardy and said,
I'd now record or leak that call. You hear me
on speaker with your manager Tubby who called me with
you on three Way. You can literally hear that in
the clip the audio didn't come from me. I respect
private conversations and I'm not in the business of leaking
anything at Cardi B. She then says, James B for real,
and be a man. I was in my bedroom by myself.

(44:58):
It was only you, me and Tubby on the call,
So you say it was Tubby. Your artists put a
laughing emoji, then leaked the convo, then posted a trash
clip of her song in less than an hour. This
is why you've been avoiding the CEOs of ten K
because you know you did it and you sound like
a bee. He then said, miss Amazar, I see this
is part of your rollout lies and the manipulation included.
I won't play tennis back and forth with you. God
doesn't like liars, so I'll end it here. I put
my hand on the Bible. I we had nothing to
do with recording, leaking, or even knowing the call was

(45:19):
being recorded. She then said, James Bee, for real. Your
artist had nothing to do with the conversation yesterday. She
is the one that tweeted that emoji, then dropped the
call and preview a songwright after, and not the other
way around. Your artist's news song is not hurting anywhere.
What can you possibly do for my rollout? The gas
lighting is insane. So it just gets messier, like, oh
my gosh, I can't believe all of this is just
coming down on Twitter. First it's with Nicki, then we
got Icepice in the mix, and we got her manager.
A ton of people have just been reacting to all
of this that has been said. Nicki has deleted pretty
much everything that she said and has resorted to reposting

(45:40):
people tweeting out her career highlights. So that's what she
was doing when party was coming for Ice Bis as manager.

Speaker 3 (45:43):
Ei.

Speaker 15 (45:43):
You guys, I was right that the few did not
end because I went to sleep last night and I
just woke up and I'm seeing all these tweets of
Nicki Minaj calling out Curdi Bee and her kids like
she's brought Curdi Bee's kids into it, talking directly to
Carti's daughter Culture in these tweets, and she's talking about
the kids calling the monkeys. You guys, this is like,
why why are we bringing the kids into it? You know,
we don't need to bring children into this beef er here.
But yes, Nicki essentially said that she's pregnant with another

(46:05):
she said monkey. This is like, I just can't believe
that this is what Nicki's saying right now.

Speaker 11 (46:08):
Why are we doing all of this? You guys?

Speaker 15 (46:10):
She's literally calling Cardie's daughter ugly, And then Cardi B
Is like, why are you calling my daughter ugly?

Speaker 11 (46:14):
Like you wish you call my daughter ugly? If my
daughter's beautiful? Why why are you bringing the kids into this?
This is insane.

Speaker 15 (46:18):
I thought that Nikki was done because she stopped tweeting
and she was just like retweeting all of these like
things that people were tweeting about her accolades over the years.

Speaker 11 (46:24):
So I thought she was done. But no, she was
not done.

Speaker 15 (46:26):
And I fear it's just messier than ever. But that
is the Morning Report update. That is the husard right
now that they're still going back and forth.

Speaker 2 (46:33):
As you see that they're going back and forth, man,
in a very heated emotional fuel back and forth between
these beautiful young women.

Speaker 1 (46:45):
That's a part of hipop right now.

Speaker 2 (46:49):
Let me say this, I don't like the female beefs,
especially when they're real, Like if it's just hip hop shit,
if he's just rap shit, cool, y'all get y'all balls off.
Let's hear how y'all come at each other. But this
Cardian Niki a scenario. If you're asking me, it's just
a disaster waiting to happen. Let me explain to you

(47:10):
from my perspective what I believe to be one of
the more understated truths, at least in the Western world
in America. I believe that with someone like Nicki and
Cardi beef and that someone is gonna get hurt.

Speaker 1 (47:27):
Let me explain.

Speaker 2 (47:29):
If a woman has a man with her and he
has a gun, nine times out of ten, she can
get him to use that gun at any spot that
they ad It just depends on her approach, whether she
starts to cry, whether she feels scared or says that
I'm afraid, whether something happens that just causes for him
to get in fight or flight. But women are very,

(47:53):
very very productive as it pertains to Yo, crash this
thing out. They fucking with me, And so from my experience,
dudes are do things for money that they Dudes are
do things for women that they wouldn't.

Speaker 1 (48:09):
Do for money.

Speaker 2 (48:11):
That's why I say, God always push p always keep
it pee. I always make sure you keep it playing.
If it's over some dickon pussy shit, get it out
of here, won't even had them conversations. But if it's
about respect, then we'll go all the way to the
edge of hell about that. I drive one of you
niggas off the cliff about my respect. You hear me,

(48:31):
I go with you. You ain't got to worry about
going by yourself. I'll go with you. But guess what
if you're asking me. Nine times out of ten, if
a woman, especially if someone like a Cardio or Nikki,
is with a man and he has a gun, he's armed,
she can get him to shoot this place up just
by saying a certain words, just by acknowledging certain atmosphere

(48:55):
or again, there's a number of reasons why. But I
think the influence that women have on men's actions as
it pertains to some macho man, randy savage kind of shit.
So I want to be tough. I'm gonna show shouty man.
They can't fuck with us. Man, they better man, they
better calm that shit down. Yeah, pipe down, nigga, you

(49:16):
better turn your gangster down. My woman in here, nigga,
we done saw tip had to Hey, man, my woman
is when they when niggas woman is in there, a
nigga got to take control of the situation and make
sure everything go is our planning it to go. And
if anything happened, it ain't happening to us, It's happening
for us, right. So I don't like when the women

(49:41):
get the beefing, especially when they drag the kids into it.
That's when it gets really shaky. Some people don't really
have a gauge on society. And they'll play with the kids.
They'll rename your kids, you know. They they'll do certain
things that will cause you to be like, damn man,
while they playing with the children, while they bringing the children,

(50:02):
and any decent human being will keep the children out
of it. But as you see in this scenario, they're
both talking about children. Now I believe they I believe
according to all the reports that I've seen, and I
could be wrong, but in this encounter between Nicki and Cardi,
Niki brought up the children, and so I think that's

(50:27):
not the right energy for Nikki to put out. I'm
also gonna consider the social conditioning through admiration that Nikki
is dealing with. It's damn near kin to what the
past and the preacher goes through a lot of people
think that the reciprocity isn't there as it pertains to influence.
They think the person with the mic is just influencing

(50:48):
the crowd, not knowing that the crowd is influencing the
person with the mic, if not more, at least on
the same level. This is not a one directional thing,
preacher to congregation. No, the congregation has input and influence
on how you even carry yourself and respond to certain things.

(51:11):
And sometimes when you get caught in these echo chambers,
you can really ignore the emotional temperature. See there's an
emotional temperature surrounding children, at least for any decent human being.
Right in the ghetto, they do that list. Shit, I'm
gonna get your son, I'm gonna get your daughter, and
i'm gonna talk about your daughter. I'm gonna talk about

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your son, or I'm gonna go over and do make
your son do this. And they're trying to pull you
out of retirement. Yeah, they're trying to pull you out
of retirement now. And so you have to position yourself
to stay on the right side of universal law more
than anything. Right when you deal with universal law, you know, man,

(51:55):
when you drag the kids and there the innocent beings,
When innocent beans get harmed, hell and tempt or even
brought into this thing in a negative manner, you're going
against universal law. And that's the rule of all this shit.
You see what I'm saying. So you can't really kind
of put that energy out now. A lot of people
are saying, Yo, Nikki is on drugs. Man, I think

(52:15):
Nikki is doing something with drugs. I think she's think
she's off of Rocker. I don't think it's drugs. Again,
I keep trying to reiterate this point to y'all. The
one with the microphone is often the one that most
is controlled by the crime. I think Nicki Minaj is
in an echo chamber in which accountability for some of

(52:37):
these things are not going to be at the forefront
of people's mind when they have a conversation with her.
But I also I also think that she still has
a heart, so cause you see her come out and
try to apologize, and she gave an apology, but it
was still wrapped in certain revelations and insults that he said. Well,

(53:00):
in the future would all make sense, But I don't
think it's drugs. I think it's the same effect the
preacher has on the people, you know, because everybody talks
about the effect that the preacher has on the congregation,
but they never talk about what effect the congregation has
on the preacher. And I'm not saying the barbs are
making her do anything, or the barbs are the reason

(53:22):
why this stuff is going to ride. What I'm saying
is the barbers love so much their love in spite of.

Speaker 1 (53:30):
Right.

Speaker 2 (53:31):
You ever had a family member that may conduct itself
in a way outside of traditionally how his family manures it,
moves through life, but he still gets to come over.
They still and then guess who love him? His mama
still love him. No matter how bad I was. If
I broke in houses, if I sold whatever I did,

(53:53):
my mama loved me. And anybody that grew up with
me know that that dude, now Mama and them loved him.

Speaker 9 (54:00):
Right.

Speaker 2 (54:00):
So sometimes you get people that love you in spite
of and I think she has a relationship with her
community and her fan base that will love her in
spite of her doing some of these things that traditionally
would get a cancel. I think she's pretty close to
an immune to cancelation. But I'm also fearful that she

(54:23):
can turn her own fan base against her if she
starts to go down this path, which she's already took
it back. So I'm gonna say she's learned from that
and she's not gonna make that mistake, right, because again,
you just make it hard for people to be able
to argue on your side because now they gonna say
you're a bar And she goes at kids, Now, what

(54:45):
what can I say to that? And I'm probably have children.
It's mostly female, so I probably have a kid. How
do I feel as someone good?

Speaker 5 (54:53):
Right?

Speaker 2 (54:53):
So you don't want to put the barbs in that
kind of situation. You don't want to put your business
in that kind of situation, and you just kind of
want to scribble outside of the lines. As it pertains
to yo, I'm gonna be direct. I'm gonna take a
flight direct to you, but I'm not gonna make myself
radioactive and have my fans turn on me during this rent.

(55:18):
You've seen in that video that Nicky says she's dropping
something on three twenty seven, twenty six, and so she's
already doing promotion and I guess the rollout starts now
in the middle of Cardi B's am out of drama stuff.
You know, I think Nicki's been in the game so
long she's using Cardi as a muse. I do think

(55:40):
it's got past the artistic elements, meaning that it's not
just used for music. At this point, this shit done
kind of got serious. Children is involved, people been heard,
they have fights, They have a lot of different aspects
of this that I think has been overblown and got
out of control. But in this so I truly believe

(56:01):
Nikki is using Cardi as a muse. She's using her
as you know, some of the last prey in the
wilderness that will make this line hunt. You understand, Make
me do this one or two or three or more times,
Give me ten more years in me because I feel
like I got a broad that you understand, even thinks
she fucking with me, and righty, sometimes you gotta get
them or you'll get too friendly, you'll get too nice.

(56:23):
You'll be sitting back just making all this woo to
do music. You understand me, just be wooed to do?
You understand me when you really want to pipe down,
you really want to push your line, you know, and
I think that Nikki uses Cardi for that, and I
just think that things have got out of control again.

Speaker 1 (56:41):
I don't think it's drugs. I want to reiterate that.

Speaker 2 (56:43):
I think Cardi is just dealing with beating ahead of
a pretty big congregation, a community in which accountability is
second nature because we ride with Nicki right and wrong,
and sometimes man, you get in those echo chambers and
it's harder than expected to hold yourself accountable. And that's

(57:07):
why I say, I see the apologies she gave that
someone is telling her that she respect Yo, you're going
a little you're going off the you're going off the
meat RECs with this, You're going off the reils with this.
But the crowd hasn't profound effect if they holding an accountable.
If the bobs say, hey, you're going too far, Hey naw,

(57:30):
not the children, but Queen, not the children, you understand me.

Speaker 1 (57:35):
I'm not sure if the bob's all doing that.

Speaker 2 (57:37):
Maybe they are, maybe there's some of them that's doing that.
But I think they'll love Nikki regardless of whatever she
does or says, and at some point that can start
to be counter productive. Listen, there's a reason of comedian
travels all across the country working one act right, because

(57:57):
the crowd reaction shapes the act, right. You know it's
a little too sensitive. Oh that's insensitive. You dig what
I'm saying. Oh that don't make sense over here, but
it made sense down there. Maybe I can tailor make
it right. The crowd influences the product and influences the

(58:18):
avenues you take with your conversations, the approach you take
with your interactions. The crowd is just as important as
it pertains to influence. There's a reciprocal influence, right, and
it's the ancestor of the actions that are taking place.

(58:39):
When you look at someone like Nikki and she may
say some things that no matter what, her people gonna
still arrive with about I think that's one thing you
have to deal with. Now, let's fast forward to Cardi
B and JT. JT went at Cardi B and we
got Saucy Santana mixed into this as well. So we

(59:00):
got a scenario where it's j T, Cardi B, and
Saucy Santana. Again, We're gonna spend about five or ten
more minutes on this, all right, So JT is inserted
into this beef with Cardi B. Because Cardi B dis
tour on a song called Magnet on her album Am
I a Drama? And people enjoy the song. I heard

(59:22):
people breaking it down and again, if it stays rap,
it's rap. But again, I think when these females, when
women are involved with rap beef, I just think things
can get much more serious because of the people with them.
You know, maybe they'll be safe, but I think that
people are gonna crash out when they see each other

(59:43):
just because Yo, I'm doing this for surety, and that's
what that is. We standing on that. That's the one
we pushing. I truly believe that Saucy Santana and JT
get into it.

Speaker 1 (59:56):
Now. This is a real question.

Speaker 2 (59:58):
I don't want to act like I've pulled this out
of osmosis. Listening to some of the stuff Saucy Santana
was saying to JT, I want to know where are
we with the rules right? Are we in a scenario
now where gay men can like body shame and they
can say, YO, have a baby, bitch and shit like that,
or is that off limits y'all? Let me know, because

(01:00:19):
I ain't been able to update my rules, so I
didn't know that. I promise I didn't know this.

Speaker 1 (01:00:25):
I didn't know.

Speaker 2 (01:00:25):
Gay men can go to that platform or anywhere and
kind of body shame biological women. Y'all tell me where
we staying as it pertains to that, and I guess
they were body shame in each other, right, I don't know.
I haven't really listened to it. It's just too much
going on. But I really want to know, and as y'all,

(01:00:48):
can we do that? At this point? It's gay dudes
allowed to say you can't have a baby because it's like.

Speaker 1 (01:01:04):
You can't either.

Speaker 2 (01:01:05):
Who said that? Who the fuck said that? Who said that? Man,
you can't have one either? Who said that?

Speaker 1 (01:01:20):
Man? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:01:23):
Man, who the fuck said that? You can't be don't
be saying that? Man, you understand me. Hey man, y'all
gotta update the rules for me. But JT went ahead
to drop two songs. I want to take a listen
to the first one and of course Q see my people,
I gotta be brutally honest on some of these.

Speaker 1 (01:01:41):
This is the first dish track from j T.

Speaker 10 (01:01:44):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:01:45):
Some of her fans are saying, she ether CARDI b
pay attention.

Speaker 14 (01:01:48):
All right, the National Sam movie T's a movie time
we are now answering.

Speaker 11 (01:01:55):
I don't get sea, motherfucking president, motherfucker a whole in teller.
I said it.

Speaker 14 (01:02:02):
I opened up my ass right now. Tell her Baddy
hold man washed up, ugly and pathetic tund on shot
say hold gonna.

Speaker 1 (01:02:09):
Stay to catch it with Brenda daughters. My daddy so
coke coach.

Speaker 14 (01:02:14):
Part of my yammis he got it off the boat.
Hover fled your rebellious, says city girl. Up be there
b six birthdays at Disney.

Speaker 3 (01:02:22):
Grow up. You don't know me.

Speaker 14 (01:02:24):
Just don't bring up my upbringing. Your memmy was around there,
pussy still was swinging. Hold on many spend your blocks
for a verena pussy so tight I could bare you
to the fingers on. You will flop in the ugly
as Sallena step down on this hold like a civil
rights with us lt Hoo will go for anything off
a pill MS and my nigga burking bag, Mike spill

(01:02:46):
how you all brim never being on the grill heard
you gotta special paint is ell that just stall you
get up for granted, I can nigga's pockets took hold
say second paper.

Speaker 1 (01:02:56):
Let me see you read your book.

Speaker 14 (01:02:58):
Host ten different places of got to waste.

Speaker 1 (01:03:00):
Look how bitch dropping.

Speaker 14 (01:03:02):
They can put it right under my Footthome, Oh Jacob
battye my ass and shining said ass looking crazy. Katy
in a type of bell bitch is jealous of the
deep and a lame school dressing ass whole pick your
wrong ten shot out my bitches who never take the
phone ever? That should she breaks about? I saw that
out the trunks, your hands man, your mammy ran a

(01:03:24):
horror house the only time.

Speaker 1 (01:03:25):
I think now I want to be brutally honest. I
like JT. I like what she's been doing.

Speaker 2 (01:03:33):
JT is revamped and rebranded in a way that I
think it's going to be effective even in the future.
I don't really like the song. I understand the balls.
It feels like what they always criticized Cardi B for,
which is it kind of feels like you're reading now.
I disagree people say Cardi B On the Imaginary Players

(01:03:56):
it felt like she was reading. I think she was flawing.
I'm not sure sure If I believe that it felt
as much as she was reading Cardi B on Imaginary
Players remake, then I do with this. This feels like
JT had a lot of insults. She wanted to get
straight to the insults, and it feels like that every

(01:04:19):
bar outside of the insult is like a setup bar
for the insult, which, again, that's how you rap. I
understand that. I just wish that when you get in there,
that she found the cadence. See, that's what I really
enjoyed by rap. I think that's why Baby is one
of my favorite rappers. It's because he gonna get in
there and find them a cadence, right, you gotta find

(01:04:41):
the pockets, you know what I'm saying. And again, if
it comes off like you're reading, you disconnect the emotion
from the actual music, and the emotion in the music
drives a lot of the fans into that parasocial relationship
because they can feel you with the music and they
think they know you.

Speaker 10 (01:05:02):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:05:02):
But I did not really like this song.

Speaker 2 (01:05:06):
I know a lot of people enjoyed this song because again,
she has a lot of dope lines in this record.
I don't want to like shit on it, like she
don't have dope lines.

Speaker 1 (01:05:15):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:05:17):
It just to me, it sounds like a Twitter space.
It sounds like the same shit that she said on
the Twitter space. You know, what I'm saying, your face
bit your face is this and you look like this, right,
and I get it in bars in rap, that's part
of it. But if you're asking me as it pertains
to this element and this moment, because going at Cardi,

(01:05:39):
if it was me, I just would have took my time.
I wouldn't even respond to right now. I would have
with radio silent when I pop back out, I'm popping
out one of them. One's though, the same way Cardi done.
If you paid attention, That's what Cardi done everybody with
this and her according to her, and she didn't really
say anything until her album, and she addressed all of
them bras like beer to be a situation is so old.

Speaker 1 (01:06:02):
But Yo, you get by, you don't get away. I
brought that right back up.

Speaker 2 (01:06:06):
So I think that JT should have took her time
and made it a moment more so than just jumping
right out there because the crowd want to see it
right now.

Speaker 10 (01:06:17):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:06:18):
I do see the business behind it as well, because
they coupled it with another record, and I really do
like that record. But before we get to that, I
think that there's been a conversation had in this industry
even behind the scenes. And I know some shit about
Carty that I ain't gonna speak on, but Carty really
wanted them once.

Speaker 1 (01:06:37):
But there's some things that.

Speaker 2 (01:06:40):
What's happening behind the scenes, and people have been talking
about behind the scenes, what Carti's album is only for
ninety nine, And I guess the conversation is, is that
a disc or is that detrimental in the business for
you to be peddling these songs for fort ninety nine
while simultaneously bragging about the numbers that are being broken

(01:07:01):
and some of the accolades that come along with streaming
hot numbers. So they're saying, you hack the system by
being able to make the album fort ninety nine, and
then you stand on the mountain and portray yourself to
be a big dog. That's what they're saying in the industry.
If you're asking me fort ninety nine, it's an indicator

(01:07:22):
that we're here to play the game. That's if you're
asking me, we're here to play the game. We're here
to try to mask And it's like Peyton Manning giving
a lot of those check down passes to pad his stats. Right,
we're playing a pad stat game because we understand that
perception for a lot of these people is reality, And

(01:07:44):
a lot of times it's just what I've noticed about
some of these stats and shit that you see. It
just looks good in your pitch deck. You know, first
female rapper to do this, you know, first female rapper
to do this over this many streams. It just looks
good in your pitch deck, which is your business bible.
That's what make him relinquish the money and write the

(01:08:05):
budget up when you be able to say, I'll send
my dick right over and he got some like shit
that's jumping off the page on it. And some of
these stats sound good there, But the four ninety nine
album indicates to me that you're dealing with a record
label who is here to pass the stats to here
to play the game. Also, all the time that it's

(01:08:27):
took cardy in between albums, I wonder does that afford
them the luxury to have it at fort ninety nine.
I know she made them a shit ton of money.
How much money has she spent in the last eight
years since her last album? Because I've also been hearing
behind the scenes that that's been a conversation of like, yo,

(01:08:49):
we've still been paying for studio time, we're still being
chartering jets and doing other things.

Speaker 1 (01:08:55):
As it pertains to Cardi B.

Speaker 2 (01:08:57):
That would traditionally be drawn out of a budget when
she's making money, but she's not making new money. But
she went six seven times platinum, so she's in the green,
and that's why we won't cut the budget off. Is
what I'm being is what's being communicated to me. But again,
with her coming out with this, it went platinum relatively

(01:09:19):
quick because some of these singles already with Damn that
Diamond that live on this album. So again you're playing
the game, which if the game is there, you gotta
play the game. I think that Nikki is sitting back saying, yo,
not with me, though, not with me. But the second

(01:09:40):
JT record, I really appreciated that she dropped.

Speaker 1 (01:09:44):
And here it is.

Speaker 2 (01:09:45):
Let's play a little bit of that, all right, here's
the second song. I guess academics premier to pay attention.

Speaker 1 (01:09:53):
What's on y'all fucking more.

Speaker 11 (01:09:55):
Money coming in?

Speaker 1 (01:09:58):
Which on y'all fuck with more?

Speaker 14 (01:10:00):
Letty keep her money coming in, Letty keep coming find
down bitch, Oh you ain't nutty?

Speaker 11 (01:10:07):
See fifty cool? But I spent six.

Speaker 14 (01:10:09):
Honey, girl out of my watch, bitch, I spent soon,
honey host talking shit, ain't stopping no money, y'all being
fraend jac I'll be a slight honey.

Speaker 11 (01:10:19):
Host taking shots.

Speaker 14 (01:10:20):
Still ain't got a hold on her back account.

Speaker 1 (01:10:22):
Who who has money?

Speaker 11 (01:10:24):
Her face look scary, bushy do don't scare me.

Speaker 14 (01:10:27):
It's just like birthday Betty shade tea, Oh dear blood
but my Patty ice peak host wedding rob. But they
album der cheeser, Put me y'all repeat, put jay y'all repeat,
some y'all y'all metal plays drop next week, paying bitch
crash better listen when I spee.

Speaker 11 (01:10:45):
But you one on one nissas can't call me money
coming in?

Speaker 14 (01:10:49):
Letty keep coming find down bitch. Oh you ain't nutty
see fifty cool. But I spent six hundred girl out
of my watch, bitch, I spent.

Speaker 1 (01:10:59):
Soon, honey.

Speaker 2 (01:11:02):
So I like that record more than the disc record
because if you ask me that shit can work, you
know it got her signature lines the JT Coming Ship,
and it's more of a club type of record. I
think that that that can gain some legs and maneuver
through the through the market. Even if it's just one

(01:11:22):
of those, could like, play it when I'm in the club,
play it when I show up, played to turn the
crowd up. I think that could be one of those records. Also,
It's like I hear Trap of Die Simple in there something,
and I could be tripping out, but I'm almost certain
that that's that Trap of Die Simple from Jez in

(01:11:44):
that record. But I like that song a little better.
The first one I just you know, to me, it
sounded like a twitter space. The second disc from JT.
I'm like, now, that's what we're doing right there. That's
what we're doing. You understand me. That's what we're doing.
But you hear bring up the four ninety nine. You know,
albums are usually fifteen dollars, ten dollars, shit like that.

(01:12:07):
So fort ninety nine Nikki's pointing that out, and she's
utilizing that to try to stump out of the fire
a little bit and say, yo, not against me against
them other bitches. Not against me against them other bitches,
but yo. I don't really appreciate the the girls going
at it, man. I hope that they can figure it

(01:12:27):
out unless it's just gonna always be rap. If it's
all rap cool. Let's keep it all wrapped, Let's keep
it on rap. Let's make sure that everything is good
with the rap. And I can stand for that. But
if it's gonna be beef drama and all that, let's
cut that out, man, because somebody gonna get hurt.

Speaker 1 (01:12:45):
On God.

Speaker 10 (01:12:48):
Yo.

Speaker 1 (01:12:48):
Before we get out of here, I want to talk
about the Young Thug Interview, his album, what he has
going on.

Speaker 2 (01:12:56):
So if you haven't watched, make sure you go watch
the Young Thug Interview. It's that podcast, the official rollout
interview for Uytch Scootie, which is Thug's post release album
from jail, in which he's coming off the heels of
the longest trial in Georgia history, being charged with the
rico him and I think twenty something other people ended

(01:13:19):
up being took to trial. This is his album coming
off of that. You know, he's still on probation. There's
a ten year window that he has to deal with
to try to maneuver through his probation and make sure
that he does the right thing. So, you know, I
want to talk about that a little bit. Do you

(01:13:39):
watch Scootie album if you're asking me, it's an introspective album.

Speaker 1 (01:13:46):
He gets introspective on this.

Speaker 2 (01:13:48):
Of course, there's a lot of turn up music, but
this is your first time hearing from Thug post trial,
and so there's things that he addresses on here that
if you're asking me, I think that he needed to
address his joints on this album. I like the song

(01:14:11):
with Luci, I like the what of Jesus or blaming Jesus.
I like the one where he's talking about the peace
and blessings.

Speaker 1 (01:14:22):
It's on my.

Speaker 2 (01:14:22):
Face, catch me I'm falling, Like the one with Tip,
I like the one with Baby Like. It's some joints
on this album. But I just think that it would
have been a mistake for him to come out and
not address some of the turmoil and betrayal that he's
dealing with that you see written over his face where
you see him, so you speak to him, or you

(01:14:44):
hear his interviews, you know some of this we got
to just chalk up and suck it up and keep
it moving as being elite niggas. Sometimes as an elite nigga,
you go through things and as unfortunate as those things are,
your train can't stop. That's the really harsh part. When
y'all can sit up and get depressed and lay down

(01:15:04):
and never do nothing and never come out the hole.
Niggas gotta keep moving even though they going through hell
or just went through hell, or ain't regrouped from going
through hell, or ain't unpacked from going through hell. Niggas
got to keep it moving. There ain't no stop on
this thing, because if you stop, the family suffer. And
if the family suffer, we go back to square one.

(01:15:28):
And as aide creeps up the father time wraps his
hand around you. You can't be so sure that you
can lay them back up and go back on the
court and put fit the off again. And so your
job is to recognize your abilities and recognize what you're
able to do in this current moment and do as

(01:15:49):
much as possible, cover much ground as possible, pass the ball,
take some shots, play some defense, do it all while
you on this court, because you never know when you
got an injury that take place to take you out
the game. You know, I was talking to a thug

(01:16:09):
in a interview and I said, man, you were dropping
albums back to back and you just in look up,
and I'm rich. That's how it happened. That's the only
way it happened, head down to the product pushing the line.
Look up and you the touchdown ten yards by ten yards,

(01:16:29):
first down by first down, check down past four yards here,
six yards here, first down three yards here, seven yards here,
first down fifteen yards, first down two yards here, four
yards here, six yards here.

Speaker 1 (01:16:45):
First down, brick by brick. You look up and it's
a touchdown.

Speaker 2 (01:16:53):
See what happens is niggas get rich and they kick
their feet up and they take a break.

Speaker 1 (01:16:56):
I get to them, I get to them, I get
to it. You gotta get it while the getting good.

Speaker 2 (01:17:04):
And also there's a scenario that US elite niggas go through, right,
And what's crazy is is that nobody's above this. This
ain't got a gender on it, This don't have a
race on it. This is just being an elite nigga.

(01:17:26):
And I don't mean nigga in a traditional sense, I
mean just an elite superhero.

Speaker 10 (01:17:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:17:34):
If you if you're gonna be an elite nigga, you
gotta you gotta, you gotta be signed to do it
again records.

Speaker 1 (01:17:40):
That's what they don't know. You do it once. They
say is look, you gotta do it again. You got
to do it again.

Speaker 2 (01:17:48):
At some point when you look back, the universe gonna say,
do it again, and maybe you gotta do it again
with less than what you started with.

Speaker 1 (01:17:55):
But do it again.

Speaker 2 (01:17:57):
And see, let's ain't just always about you. You ain't
got as much money. You ain't got the same heart
you had, Nigga. When you first done it, you was pure,
Your heart was everything was green. Lick y'all, see it's
up there podcast. My brain color green because everything green lit.
When you first started, your heart was pure, everything was
green lit. You ain't even look at life in the

(01:18:19):
same lens that you are. Now you damaged. They cracked
your vision. But you gotta sign the door again, records,
if you're gonna be in the lead, Nigga, you got
to do it again. Look back at everybody. It's interesting
because on your second goal round, you gotta do it

(01:18:40):
with less than what you started with, but more than
what you needed. Because now you got the money. But
your brain, your mind, your outlook, they have affected and
interfered with your sensibilities. You're giving hard, you're giving spirit.

(01:19:01):
They make up lies, they hate on you. But you
will have to do it again with less than what
you started with, but more than what you needed. Your
mind is now veered into a place where you're second
guessing everything. Part of while the shot go in is
because you knew what was going in when it was
coming off your fingertips, but now you second guessing everything.

(01:19:24):
Should I to create the environments that contributed to the
atmosphere that made niggas millionaires. It called for a nigga
to be all in. And once you deal with certain
things as an elite nigga, it gets harder for you
to be all in.

Speaker 1 (01:19:43):
So when you're on your.

Speaker 2 (01:19:43):
Second lap, do it again records, you got to figure
out how to be all in again in spite of
being hurt and in spite of going through whatever a
nigga went through, and the healing and process shit is.

Speaker 1 (01:20:01):
It's just it's just like Fortnite. It takes time.

Speaker 2 (01:20:04):
I don't give a damn how bad you need the
mad kid Hong got to unwrap it.

Speaker 1 (01:20:08):
Hon got to wrap some shit around. He got to
get it together. It takes time to heal.

Speaker 2 (01:20:15):
Sometime we want to hear way too quick, or we
want to shun it, act like it didn't happen. That
ain't healing, acting like it didn't happen. Ain't healing. But
I know that's a that's a trick we all got
in our bad We've seen people we love do it,
our mothers, our fathers, our aunties, our uncles, our cousins,
dealing with things like you just gotta act like it

(01:20:37):
didn't happen and keep moving nigger head up. But that
ain't healing. And so you ain't even undressed it. You
ain't even undressed it to know what you're dealing with.
So at some point niggas gotta undress it. But when
you when you gotta do it again, bru it just

(01:20:58):
gonna be from a different perspective. But all all of
us great men, we got to do it once or twice.
We least got to do it twice. They got to
see it done twice. They got to see it done twice. Right,
But this time, it's like when you're dealing with a
woman who don't even know cheating is possible. She ain't
even she just oblivious to her. Versus you dealing with

(01:21:19):
a woman that done been cheated on before, and she's
looking for it. She's preparing herself to find her elite
nigga cheating, or she's searching and worried and wondering, and
the atmosphere has been affected by her past. It's the
same thing. She gotta be able to unpack that baby.

(01:21:40):
But on the other side, you could deal with the
woman who she don't even know cheating is even an option.
She ain't never been cheated on in her brain. She
don't even know that it's a thing. So when she
deal with a man, she wide open and she loving
on him like ain't nobody else had a chance at it.

(01:22:01):
The atmosphere and the energy is affected by what you've
been through, but sometimes ignorance is blissed. That's why the
more you know, the more you need, because you'll get
to knowing. Man, this shit, this fight even deeper than
I thought it was. Nigga, This fight even deeper than

(01:22:23):
I thought it was. Like I peeping everything, like I
see certain shit. I'm saying, damn, so the white boy
this and then they did this and then so. But
when it's the nigga, they don't never. Damn This fight
deeper than I thought it was. Line, it's a different
kind of fight right here. When sometimes I I deal

(01:22:51):
with that. But even when I look at people like
Javonte Davis, you know, people be asking me, your looney
nigga went and go fight j Paul Man. You know
what I'm saying, Why that nigga man? He tripping? And
so my response to them is, I understand what it's
like to have a catastrophic event in your life, in

(01:23:11):
your career. See, people don't understand when you've been boxing
for all your life and you find yourself really in
a fight for the best ever and you got this
one dude in front of you that got this zero
on the other side by the name of Floyd Mayweather

(01:23:31):
and your Javonte Davis, and you just close to it.
And for you to get a draw put on your record,
that's a catastrophic event. No matter if I come out
smiling like it ain't nothing going on that can turn
me better. And I think if he would have fought
Lamart Roach too quick, he would have been a bitter
Javonte Davis. And I tell niggas that being bitter can

(01:23:54):
turn your memories against you. And I look at what
he's doing with Jake Paul. Number one, it's a business decision.
You go and get the money right now. You really
look at Lamar Roach and you say, yoh, I'm hustling.
Let me go grab this bag. Really, it's a sign
of respect because any event you beat me, I won't
be able to get this bag from dude. The bag

(01:24:16):
exponentially gets lower. They offer me a fraction of what
they offer me now, which is a small fortune. So
as I'm looking at Lamar roach, if I'm Javonte Davis,
I'm saying, yo, let me hustle up. Why you know
you see what I'm doing. I'm over here, fin and runner,
get this bag. I beat back to you.

Speaker 1 (01:24:35):
Just hold on.

Speaker 2 (01:24:36):
I't find no lawsuits and all that. You see what
I'm doing. But I'm also dealing with that zero that
they done affected that zero. Now the zero's still there
and the one going the draw column, which is another thing,
but it's still it ain't perfect. And I was chasing
that perfection that Floyd Mayweather put on the table, and

(01:24:56):
I was right on his heels, right. I think that
that event calls for him to be better. And he
was in there fighting and training with a bitter hard
hitting the pass with a bitter spirit. And maybe this
Jake Paul thing, not only does he get paid, but
we just we bring in some little you understand, we

(01:25:18):
get the Hanks south of us, right, we just get
we get back into the vibe of video.

Speaker 1 (01:25:24):
It's this thing I used to love to do.

Speaker 2 (01:25:25):
I love to do this right here from fourteen fifteen,
at seven years old, I've been doing this.

Speaker 14 (01:25:31):
Here.

Speaker 2 (01:25:32):
We get back into the vibe of it because at
that point, I will build a nigga.

Speaker 1 (01:25:37):
They done fuck the zero up.

Speaker 2 (01:25:39):
I'm still the number one nigga in boxing, but they
done fucked with my fun schway like that, right, And
not to say he deserved to win that fight. I
think he didn't take it as serious as he should
have took it. Again, I don't know what position he
was in at that point. I'm talking about following that
just the mindset, the mindset of someone like him when

(01:26:01):
you deal with some of these catastrophic events, whether it
be in your career or your personal life. I just
think that you have to do something to shake the
Hanks off. And that's what the album is. If you're
asking me, that thug is dropping, and that's exactly what
Vontae Davis has to do with this Jake Paul thing.
And if you're asking me, those are parallels because those

(01:26:23):
dudes been through something gotta rebuild this shit. Rebuild just
the ability to want to do it with a smile
on my face.

Speaker 1 (01:26:30):
Needing the door and wanting to do it. It's distance
in between that when you get.

Speaker 2 (01:26:34):
Rich, when you already got the money, nigga, it's distance
between needing to do it and wanting to do it.
If you can make them motherfuckers mean the middle, that's
when you in paradise. Yeah, I want to do something
I need to be doing anyway, that's how you really win,
you understand me. But once you get the money, it
goes separate. It separates, It separates. Those events that take place.

Speaker 3 (01:27:01):
Man, they.

Speaker 2 (01:27:04):
They shape you and mold you, inform you in a way. Well,
it's just gonna be hard for you to deny and
act like they didn't happen.

Speaker 10 (01:27:13):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:27:15):
Also, I want to say something about the Young Thug interview,
one of the best interviews that we've done.

Speaker 1 (01:27:23):
We got a lot of information from Thug.

Speaker 2 (01:27:26):
We asked them about dirt, we asked them about young boys,
We asked them about trial. We asked him about him crying,
about Gunner, We asked him about Mariah, We asked him
about the jail. Cause we had a great conversation with Thug,
and a lot of information was there and a lot
of love. So many people appreciate the interview, and I

(01:27:50):
definitely appreciate the people who support us and show love to,
you know, our products and things of that nature. There's
a small section of niggas though it was shocking to me.
I was appalled. I was tooken back about from the
amount of people who wanted me, being who I am,

(01:28:13):
to get Thug on my interview and chop him down.
They wanted me to go at Thug in a way
where things got heated, and you know, we regurgitate some
of the same conversations that he was already asked. You
gotta remember this is not just popping up out of nowhere.

(01:28:36):
So when people say why he didn't ask about this,
he was already asked about that and something else. My
job is to have a conversation and move a conversation forward.
I am not nobody little homing what niggas can.

Speaker 1 (01:28:51):
Tell me what to talk about, how to talk about it, or.

Speaker 2 (01:28:54):
What to speak on. I ain't the guy is be
performing for the microphone. I'm gonna go and have the
conversations that I want to have at the time and
every single time we have a monumental, classic conversation. I

(01:29:15):
also want to address some of the things that I'm
hearing in this industry that's like some weird energy from
the weird os, and it'll be a backhanded compliment, you know.
I've heard people say things like thug shouldn't have done
no interview, but salute the loan, And you know, maybe

(01:29:37):
it's my fault. And that's why I'm saying, I'm gonna
start to speak in a way where we clarify and
separate the men from the mice. I think it's time
that we get there. Part of it is my fault,

(01:29:58):
and it's always black niggas. It's always niggas that try
to marginalize me. And not only do I hear people
say things like that, there's something else that they say
and they act like that I'm speaking on or I'm
speaking street talk, or I'm some kind of street character.

(01:30:22):
Anyone that's been listening to my show from the get go,
from the inception, from the start up, from the start line,
they know I've been talking information from the get out.
I've been talking information from the jump. When niggas like
p and Coach k and them introduce me to people.

(01:30:42):
It's business that I speak on. When you talk to Charlemagne,
it's business that Loan talks about. And it's always a
black dude that's trying to that's not an executive. Maybe
they haven't digested some of my dia our law. But

(01:31:03):
when you come on this side, this information business and
you get a little entertainment, But one thing it is
is game. This is the real game over here. And
so when niggas go to paint it like I'm some
kind of street character that ain't a flex to me,
that's disrespect to me.

Speaker 1 (01:31:22):
What I'm doing is bigger than any neighborhood. Nigga.

Speaker 2 (01:31:27):
We're trying to unlock some of these locks. Were trying
to break some of these chains. Speak on dedication and
information and resilience and where they gets you, and you
niggas got the nerve or marginalize whatever it is I
speak on. And another thing, ain't now one of you
niggas done it from scratch, nigga. You looking at the shelf.

(01:31:50):
You looking at the shelf, nigga, I've done it from scratch.
The nerve of you niggas, And sometimes I have to question,
are they looking for a scholar or scholarship, because if
you looking for a nigga that got the information, you
don't need to go no further. If you're looking for

(01:32:11):
a scholarship, you have made the wrong stop. When you
say I'm some kind of street character, you disrespect everything
that I've done and everything that I stand for. I'm
standing on information. I tell people I'm reading books more
than anyone. I stay with a book going on in
my ear. I've been saying this for the last three years.

(01:32:32):
I got a book club, I dropped books on my
patren with my people. I'm in a scenario where we
break books down. You marginalize me as some kind of
street character that ain't af flex to me. That's disrespect
to me. Coming from the inner city. I do speak
of because a large portion of Black America is coming

(01:32:54):
from inside of the inner city and may have to
run down some of the same avenues that I was,
by the grace of God able to conquer. And so yeah,
I do speak about coming from the inner city and
let them know it's light at the end of the tunnel,
and I ain't shut the door on them. But the

(01:33:15):
nerve of some of you niggas to marginalize what I
do man like it's some kind of street talk behavior. Nigga,
I'm a scholar. I'm dealing with information. I've been dealing
with it from day one. I got to tighten up
a few loose ends. But you know, I'm having my weight.
You understand me, geeked up looking for eve tup, having

(01:33:38):
my weight, and a lot of the times the relationship
is built on respect. A lot of the times people
can't understand how dude keep doing X and Y and z,
and they want to put two and two together, but
they don't got to calculate it. It ain't nobody taught

(01:33:58):
them how to count. I knew that when they counted
me out. And so anytime you speak about what's my
mission statement or what's in my ministry, you know I'm
doing it again. Records lose it all, go get it back.
But the problem is they want to see me shuck
and jive. Listen, man, I'm one of the most illis

(01:34:19):
niggas ever created. You'll never find another nigga being able
to maneuver like I had. Just I promise you that
I'm one of the more iller niggas. Man, I'm one
of the more iller ones, like just on some real
player shit, like I'm one of the more iller ones.
I'm out thinking these niggas, and I'm out maneuvering niggas,

(01:34:40):
and I'm staying solid the entire time. But they want
to see me shucking jive for likes and comments and
subscribers and donations, You understand me. They want to see
me shucking jive. They wondering why he ain't put the
costume on yet. I believe in my abilities that my
business ACTI I think I'm academically inclined to be able

(01:35:02):
to maneuver this space with any of them. And so
when you see me dumb it down, respectfully, understand you
dealing with a dumbed down version. And when you see
me pipe it up, give that the same respect as well.
I just don't like the fact that people are even
say my name and then say some kind of street

(01:35:24):
thing following it, and I get it, right, there's some
authenticity to go along with some of the conversation and
some of the texture.

Speaker 10 (01:35:31):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:35:32):
So the game is the game.

Speaker 2 (01:35:33):
I ain't disrespecting it, and you know there's no beef,
but there's clarification that need to be had right, there's
amendments that need to be put on whatever contracts and
constitutions niggas is maneuvering with because at this point, I
think they've undervalue the diamond that's right in front of them.

(01:35:54):
And if it was about money, I would have quit
long time ago. It's about respect, being able to have
conversations with some of the best of them. To marginalize
me into some kind of street corner, it makes me
question niggas motors. I mean, like I ain't spoke to

(01:36:15):
people from the CIA on my podcast, like I ain't
spoke the Hall of Fame athletes and operated in this
space without you niggas. Consent or camaraderie from you bitch
ass industry niggas for so long, miss me with them
backhanded compliments. And I say this respectfully to all my
constituents in this game, but miss me with all the

(01:36:37):
fake shit you niggas talking to a general I'm not
sure what got into you niggas, and I'm not interested
in whatever you niggas is into any time you able
to reference what I do in this business. No, I've
done it outside of you niggas. Algorithm, without you niggas,
applause and without you niggas agreeing to it. No, I

(01:36:59):
don't from scratch, Yo, this Mama's cooking nigga. And so
the nerve of some of you niggas, Man, I don't
got no listen man, Lee long out of it. I'm
having respect on my name in this game. Man, There's
been a lot of people. Do you know what I'm saying?
And I had to check my phone to make sure

(01:37:20):
these niggas got my number. They can call me if
they need to call me about anything, and say, Yo,
long this that these nigga get on these interviews in
these podcasts and man, they shouldn't have done that, or
he did this, or yo man, y'all nigga pulled back,
man and pipe down and never marginalized what I do.

Speaker 10 (01:37:38):
Nigga.

Speaker 2 (01:37:39):
I done this hit from scratch. You dealing with this
shit from scratch nigga, And somewhere along the lines, we
done mixed up the infrastructure where niggas who ain't never
done nothing can disrespect a nigga that made the biscuits
from Battle Nigga. I done this shit from scratch. The
nerve of some of you niggas even incorporate my name
with some of this silly buy shit. Y'all niggas got gone, Nigga.

(01:38:03):
I don't speak for the streets. I'm bigger than the streets.
I speak for the culture, Nigga. The streets is a
little bitty part of the culture. Were dealing with scholars nigga,
were dealing with scholarships, and so they try to poise
in my blood stream right, my ability to pop and
kick this kind of shit amongst my people, knowing that

(01:38:26):
they appreciate it and they honor it from a different perspective,
knowing that ain't many people who can get on the
mic and garner this kind of attention, this kind of network,
this kind of net worth. Ain't many niggas that can
get on the mic and run this kind of race.
For My message is always is ruined my niggas. I

(01:38:49):
want to see you, Eve, but I don't want to
cook for you. Last people I cook for then leave
me nothing. Need you gotta have some respect on what
I've been through. Everybody be wonder man, why brother on Nigga,
I really been told on I've really been through something.
I've been through some things. Y'all playing y'all niggas rappers
and playing and yeah, y'all nigga just playing like y'all.

(01:39:11):
This ain't a trick bag for me, nigga, this is
really what's going I done dealt with betrayal on the
highest level. I done really been lying on, nigga. Have
you ever really been lying on? Have you ever really
been set up? Have a nigga really ever told on you?

(01:39:32):
Have somebody ever done something to you that you had
to go get revenge for and you.

Speaker 1 (01:39:36):
Had love for them?

Speaker 2 (01:39:39):
Have you ever caught somebody that owed you something done
something to them? Have you ever been in a position
where you was reading books that was telling you to
kill your ego while your ego was getting bigger. I'd
be battling shit and going through things that people would
never have to go through. So they can't see it
from my perspective, but it's do it again records. But

(01:40:05):
I want to say, any one of you little guys
in the industry who are marginalizing me to a street guy,
you have misattributed me. You have a roleously constructed a
mischaracterization of a black man. And sometimes I worry about this.
For my sons, it's because you're black and you grew

(01:40:25):
up in there inner city. They ignore what you've done
and just try to speak to you about your past.
It's like, I'm clear little business owner with a thriving business,
a CEO, a founder. Again from scratch. This is what
I want to keep bringing up because I don't think
niggas really got no understanding on what I'm saying. I'm

(01:40:45):
talking about from scratch, homie, and you niggas been born
in this shit and I'm talking about from scratch, and
you nigga got the nerve to speak up. Man, don't
do yourself like this. Man, one thing I know for
sure came down one of you niggas. Fuck with me
when it comes to this and we can sit down

(01:41:06):
and have a conversation. I said that, but I worry
about this for my sons.

Speaker 10 (01:41:11):
Man.

Speaker 2 (01:41:11):
You know, because you're black and you grew up in
the inner city, people are mischaracterized you, man, and they
think that's all you can do. They don't even know
it's being disrespectful. In some limited cases it's not, but
most times people are disrespecting you by calling you some
kind of street nigga at thirty nine years old or
something a nigga would have thriving beds and really doing

(01:41:34):
what I'm doing, and y'all or don't be on no
platforms calling me that I'm a scholar. I'm thinking about business.
I'm pushing the culture forward. I'm interviewing some of the
biggest people in the world, and I'm investing in what
I got going on. Respect that black man a black man.
It be feeling a little off with black men. These
white people at the bank don't never say that. These

(01:41:56):
executives don't never say that. It's always somebody that thinks
that's it's flex nigga that ain't no flex to me.
Don't call me no street nigga. What I'm doing at
this point in my life is bigger than the streets.
I said that I stand on that this right here
can save families and feed families and lead niggas out
the dog.

Speaker 1 (01:42:15):
This way bigger than the street. Miss me.

Speaker 2 (01:42:17):
With that street talking bullshit, you niggas be peeling, and
a lot of you niggas ain't never really even hustle.
You've been around me and that's your entire life, and
you ain't never had a plug.

Speaker 1 (01:42:27):
Miss me.

Speaker 2 (01:42:28):
With all that, that really why I don't want to
talk about it. It be too many niggas talking about
it that they never really even had to do none
of it. And so for me, I be knowing, Yo,
miss me with that, y'all, niggas, man, stand down, miss
me with all that talking about this, that and the
third because I don't want to hear and I don't
care if you believe it. For me, I don't really

(01:42:49):
want to hear. Homie, you understand me. It's a lot
of money to be made, it's a lot of ground
to be covered. I don't need no black men marginalizing
me like I'm some street dude that talk about street talk.
I talk about business contracts and everything else. But man,
I'm one of the more premire acts in this market.
I've been able to do things alone that niggas couldn't

(01:43:12):
do with a team. I'm talking about from scratch Dude
made the biscuits from Battle. Dude made the biscuits from Battle.

Speaker 1 (01:43:20):
Man.

Speaker 2 (01:43:22):
I went and done shit niggas couldn't do with a team, y'all.
Miss me, man, y'all, miss me, Man, they kind of
respect I'm having man with these individuals. Man, y'all niggas
tripping it's up there podcast, Man, I appreciate everybody it
just watching, man.

Speaker 1 (01:43:41):
I see y'all next week. We're doing one of these
a week again. I love y'all. Peace,

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