October 13, 2025 • 58 mins
In this powerful episode, we dive deep into the complex realities facing the black community today through the lens of recent high-profile federal cases. Our host provides unfiltered analysis of Diddy's 50-month sentence and its broader implications, while examining Lil Durk's ongoing federal challenges including recent contraband charges that could impact his case significantly.
Episode Summary
This episode offers raw insights into federal justice, street mentality, and the importance of emotional intelligence for black men in positions of power. We explore how federal cases are being handled differently in today's climate, the significance of risk assessment in high-stakes situations, and the delicate balance between authentic expression and public perception through celebrity relationships. The discussion emphasizes the critical need for emotional stability and intelligence as foundational elements for success and survival.
Key Insights
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Diddy's 50-month sentence represents a better outcome than initially expected, with federal prosecutors failing to secure everything they pursued.
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Lil Durk's case complexity increases with contraband charges including cell phone possession and destruction of evidence (Apple Watch).
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Federal attention to high-profile cases has intensified following recent losses, leading to more aggressive prosecution strategies.
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Emotional intelligence and stability are essential qualities for black men, especially those in positions of power and influence.
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Risk assessment and calculating "is the juice worth the squeeze" is crucial before making any significant moves or decisions.
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The importance of recognizing universal signs and indicators that may influence decision-making outcomes.
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Commentary on public relationships and the balance between authentic expression and strategic communication in celebrity marriages.
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Street mentality principles including surveillance, threat assessment, and understanding exit strategies in any environment.
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The concept that rushing decisions can lead to operational failures and unwanted exposure of sensitive situations.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Yo yo, yo, Yo, yo yo. Welcome to It's Up
There podcast. You know the vibes, favorite podcaster kicking real game.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Man.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
We've been on the journey putting game down. People been
picking up when we putting down. We've been picking back
ends up. You know, God is good, The blessing is
in the journey. We thank everyone is watching right now.
Matter of fact, if you watching, go ahead and hit
like hit, subscribe hits. Shall let the people know, say,
we over here listening to the loom right now. We don't
(00:32):
care about nothing else with all the other shit burn.
We're listening to the loom right now, man, So let the
people know this where you at It's up There partcast
leader of the New School.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Ain't none of you niggas done it like me?
Speaker 1 (00:46):
And I say that respectfully, and I don't want to
say the N word too early in the show, So.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Bleep that one. None of you.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Ninjas have done it like me. I'm the only one
of my kind. I'm the only one done it from scratch.
There was a lot of people that'd done it. A
lot of people had teams, a lot of people came
from environments where they had the prior relationships and things
of that nature. I've been able to do it from scratch,
and I just want to highlight that because it's one
of my superpowers that I think isn't spoke about enough.
(01:19):
You know, I was just sitting here thinking, like, it's
now a running joke in the industry amongst some of
my peers and some of the people who you know,
a lot of the people make out the money in
the industry, we sit back and identify some of these
hating a niggas that's in the industry, and so sometimes
it's like a running joke we have about yo.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
You see they don't.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Post this or you see how they act this way
when it comes to you or your shit. And for me,
you know, I used to get kind of upset and
I used to get to a situation like, man, I
won't man, I'm you know, they used to trigger me.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
I'll say that, let's leave it there. It used to
trick me. Now all it does is it tells me.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Number one, there is no one in the industry that
doesn't know who I am, what I do, and what
my platform is. That's number one. Number Two, it shows
me the level of hate that some of these individuals
have and I don't think it's really personal. I think
niggas is just ass whole kind of niggas. You see
(02:25):
what I'm saying, Because if it was personal, I'll feel
that energy and I'll come clear of smoke. There ain't
no smoke anywhere in the world. I ain't cleared up
as it pertains to me and my name. When it
comes to Looan, I know whether or not it's in
the air, and if it's in the air, it's way
up there.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
And so ain't no smoke.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
I ain't coming clean the air, period, right, So I
don't truly believe that it's smoke. I don't truly believe
that there's a personal issue. I think number one, a
lot of these people are just assholes, and they reckons
the business aspect of the game. And hopefully y'all all
forget about me, right, But also part of it is
(03:09):
on me. I haven't done a good enough job in
telling my story and telling y'all how I came from
nothing and how I made the biscuits from battle. See
that's the difference between me and the nigga. I'm the chef,
I ain't the server. I ain't the motherfucker waiting on
the food you dealing with the chef you looking at
(03:30):
the nigga made biscuits from battle from scratch. I am him.
You understand that. And what I say, hold wait in
this coatre and its law in this game. And so
if you ain't picking up what I'm putting down, because
see he go the trick. Everybody you following around, they
ain't doing nothing but picking up what I'm putting down
(03:51):
and remixing it, regurgitating it, tapping in the old shit
out undone and regurgitating it.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
So I got to create a runway to let niggas know.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Oh, the big jet landing now yeah, twenty twenty six,
the big jet landing, Now yeah, y'all been riding on
them ten passenger junts, the big one landing, Now.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
You dig. Part of it is my fault.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
I haven't done a great job at telling my story
twenty twenty six. That's what I want to focus on.
Brand identity and telling my story, and also telling the
story of the platform and how it has this kind
of reach and mean what it means in the culture,
Like it's people that grew up with me that don't know.
It's people that hustle with me that don't know. It's
(04:36):
people that was in school with me that don't know.
It's people that learn next to me that don't know
how I done. Exactly what I've done in the way
that I've done it. I'm the only nigga done it
from scratch. Let that marinate use. So, yeah, all this
oh inheritance niggas inheritance shit like Loan, done it from scratch.
(04:59):
Put a little bit more respect on that nigga, the
yes scratched up on a brick or two. Yeah, put
a little more respect on him. You understand me. Now,
a lot to talk about today, man. I want to
thank each and every person out there, man, no matter
where you are, send positive energy to you and your family.
(05:19):
As you come to hear my motherfucking ministry, as you
come to hear my ministry, as you come to really
hear me break down what I think about some of
the things that we've encountered in this game.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
And God is extremely, extremely good.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
We are coming off the heels of Diddy being sentenced
to fifty months for the prostitution charges that he has
in the Southern District of New York. He has been
charged with the Man Act and got a total of
fifty months for that, if you're asking me and you're
looking at the case law as well as what he's
been charged with. I'll say this again, as I said
(05:58):
last episode, that seems to be an overreach as it
pertains to his situation. Diddy had no prior criminal history
that should have been used against him. But I understand
how the federal government cuts through some of the noise
and they utilize the enhancement side of things with relevant
conduct and other things. Even acquitted scenarios that you may
(06:22):
have been in can drive your points up. According to
some of my research and some of my people that
I do have behind the federal walls, Diddy serving fifty months,
a lot of people wonder why did he cried? Diddy's
a rich person and at sixty years old, nigga getting
a five year sentences like getting a twenty. Then you
(06:44):
compound on top of that the fact that Diddy has
been rich and famous for the last thirty years. He's
been sleeping on Fritch sheets. If you don't know what
that is, google it. These are five to ten grand
apiece right for one sheet set. He's been sleeping on
some of the finest of Cottons wearing the finest of linens,
(07:05):
going to some of the more upscale spots. Even when
he would do freak offs. Here'll be a twenty thousand
dollars a night penthouse, hotel room.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Right.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
So I just want to put in context that you're
not just dealing with a regular sixty old guy. And
even if you were dealing with a regular sixty old guy,
this kind of time is still substantial for someone in
that age.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Breaket. This is an elderly man. Now.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
I know y'all see him dancing and moving around, but
you see all they're great, He's an elderly man at
this point. You know, all the bells and whistles, all
of the perks, all of the things that he had
at his fingertip allowed for him to appear to be
younger than he truly was. That goes out of the
window when you now in federal custody. I do believe
(07:56):
that they're going to get him over to a camp.
Let him do his time at a camp. I think
that'll be more sufficient for him, and I think he'll
calm down and it'll settle in that. I got to
get this little time out the way and get home.
I hated that he cried, even listening to some of
the people you know from the FIST calling my phone,
you know, and they saying, loan man. You know, he
(08:17):
wasn't post to cry, wasn't posed to break down like that.
The hard part over, right, And you know, I tried
to explain to him that Diddy's in a scenario, very
unique scenario, and I try to give room for black
men to be able to express themselves. And if I'm
being honest to people that are behind the walls, they
were more concerned with the future telling of this story,
(08:42):
right if they never seen him break down, they never
seen him buckle right. Somewhere along the lines, I think Diddy,
because of his background is in entertainment, that he believes
a little like acting might work on the judge.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
He don't really understand that.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Early on in y'all arranged at your federal centers in
court day, the judge had already made his decision, and
he really spoke on it really early on when he
said I agree with the guidelines, that was already a
red flag. Then some of the communication that he had
with Diddy showed you which way he was leaning. There's
an old quote that talks about begging for forgiveness. And
(09:20):
some people have that personality type where they'll see someone
digging a grave, right, digging a hole about to bury
their body in it, and they'll sit there and plead
and beg them the entire time. But the thing about that,
a lot of times the person that's digging a hole
doesn't have any sympathy for the victim. And I'm not
(09:42):
saying Diddy's a victim in this situation. I'm speaking to mindset.
He's still looking for sympathy. He's looking for if they
see me broke down, maybe I can get some sympathy.
And also, I think we got to consider the fact
that maybe that's a real reaction and like, Yo, I'm broken, nigga,
(10:03):
I'm sixty years old. I don't want to do no
motherfucking four years in jail. Yeah, but you was facing life.
I think if we look at the overall scenario they did,
he finds himself in at some point he sits back
and he smiles.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Any thanks God.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Yeah, you know what I'm saying, whatever time that he
got at that moment, the hard part is over them.
Folks were trying to give you a leaven. They were
trying to give your eleven twelve just for this. Just
think if they got a guilty on anything else, nigga,
you'd be doing a dug a natural life sentence for
an old nigga like him. So I think if we
(10:39):
look at it and we zoom out and we look
at it for what is worth? Did he ended up
in a better scenario then a lot of us thought
he would end up in At the beginning of this.
They came for his fortune, they came for his credibility,
they came for everything, and they left with damn then nothing.
(10:59):
Now people ask me, Yol, how is his career gonna go?
What do we think about Diddy moving forward? I think
Diddy's resourceful. He's creative enough that if he wants to,
he can do some things. I think he's coming to
sit down somewhere. I do believe he's gonna do interviews.
We'll probably hopefully we'll get him on this up there podcast.
(11:20):
But I think he's gonna go around doing interviews and
speaking about certain things. But the rest of his natural life,
I think it's gonna be just him hustling. I don't
know if he comes out and he's flamboyant as he
was before, free spirited as he was before. Now on
the other side of that in his personal life and
(11:41):
its sexual escapades. In his personal life and it's sexual escapades,
I will say this, I believe that he has a
huge burden lifted off of his back. Could you imagine
being a nigga that want to rub calm on yourself
and don't know? I didn't know, but you and little
(12:01):
Shouty right here is you in this one or two
or a couple of these girls didn't know? So it's
like he was maneuvering with a military secret instead of
really living in his truth. Even though it was rumblings
and people like, yo, the boy did it get into
some wild shit?
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Boy? You think you wild? Boy?
Speaker 1 (12:23):
The boy did it? On another level? You understand me.
It was people that were positioning did it like that
the entire time? Interestingly enough, I don't believe people like
fifty who was positioning, did it like that. I'm not
sure if he thought his actual baby mama was involved
in some of that. I would love to ask him that, like,
did you know she was involved in that? Or was
(12:45):
this just a scenario where you thought that she was
over there being regular and then she pop out on
this on the tape.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
We are sure we're glazing to night. What's up? Say something? Okay?
Shit not oh wow?
Speaker 3 (13:01):
All right?
Speaker 1 (13:01):
Say at night that shit fifty. You've been getting off
some weird shit too, going that Diddy. You know, I
know you kind of immune the cancelation, but you've been
getting off some shit that most niggas wouldn't been able
to get off. Nigga, the culture abandon some of you niggas,
but I think fit. They understands the power position that
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he's in. And these niggas are damned to go for anything.
That's one thing about my brand that I'm so lucky
to have positioned myself this way in the game. They
know no one just ain't going for anything. And that's
a fact. I done turn down money. I done turn
down millions. If we being honest, I done had. I
(13:43):
done had a situations where me has been brought to
me and I knew that if I took the money,
what it'll do to my work ethic. It'll smother my
work ethic. Now what do I mean when I say
that as soon as I get the money, I'm lit up,
make a bitch, spit up. But three four or five
(14:05):
years in and now the company's making twenty million dollars
a year and I'm taking home maybe three or four
hundred thousand of that because I sold the company and
now I'm talent on the show. Would have drowned out
my ability to get up every day, happy to do
(14:26):
what I do. And I love coming to speak with y'all.
I love speaking to the culture. So I think it
would have drowned that out in particular, if anything would
have went wrong. See right now, if I can bank
on myself, I'm always go to bed at night knowing
you gotta fight and chain for one thing about you.
You ain't gonna never let it get lay down. You
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ain't gonna never just let it go away again. I'm
the only one done it from scratch. When I look around,
I say, ooh, he the only one done it from
scratch with his reach in this niche, this position without
a co host came in like this. I set the
blueprint dollar big dollar sign loom. I set the blueprint
(15:11):
on podcasting without a co host, without all that extra
shit around you, having real conversations that second to nobody.
Loan started that go check your files, go check your
goop salute to y'all that know that. Salute to y'all
that been on the journey. A lot of niggas was
on Instagram popping that shit. I don't even do that
(15:33):
no more. I remember I used to run clips on
Instagram with just real shit, real shit, and I'm about
to start back. So I'm coming back for my spot
as it pertains to home, be kicking real shit on
the ground every single day.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
I'm coming back for that. But I'm the nigga that
started that.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
The music in the background, and are many or two
or just nigga kicking real game. I'm the nigga brought
that to town, and I just stopped doing it. I
stopped doing it and started to focus on the interview
side because there's things I miss it, right, it's reach
(16:10):
that I need. There's certain things that I need that
I was missing, and you know, I'm coming back for
all of that.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
I enjoy this. I enjoyed doing that.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
So I know a lot of my fans that follow
me on the ground, they used to be like, every
single day, he dropping that shit, and you know, we're
gonna get back to doing that and hopefully y'all enjoy it.
But but I was the one that was holding niggas
accountable on camera to the point where they don't even
want me to have regular conversations. They want me to
(16:40):
drill niggas, and I want you all to know that
ain't what I'm doing every single time. Sometime I just
having a conversation. But if we get into a spot
where we need to clarify some things, I'll do that.
But I come in the game standing next to whoever
saying that don't make sense, clarify that. I'm the nigga
that changed the way they done they dealt with that.
To Umar Johnson, people used to let Umar just come
(17:03):
and speak. Loon brought the debate style to the Umar
Johnson scenario and then people start pushing back and it
revived and repositioned Umar as it pertains to his interview style.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
People were like, yo, clarify that, what does that mean.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
I was the first person to do that, and I
had never spoke at a live event before and I
did it live.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
Man, Come on, man, I'm the blueprint and just y'all
forgive me.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
Man. Sometimes I pop my shit. Sometimes I want to
get on here and pop it a little bit so
people will know exactly where we stand. But y'all forgive me,
y'all forgive me, But you know, did it got fifty months?
Speaker 2 (17:46):
I think.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
At some point he looks back at that and he says,
we're blessed to make it out. We're fairly unscathed as
it pertains to what they came for and what they
left with. Right, came for everything, and they left with
little or nothing. So it's still a failure in their eyes.
Speaking of people who are in the federal government custody
(18:10):
Little Dirt, there's been a couple of updates in Little
Dirk's case as it pertains to what he is in
jail for with a murder for hire. I think he's
facing a life sentence. But I think they said they
found a cell phone in his cell pay attention.
Speaker 4 (18:30):
For himself, because they said back in August they called
Little Dirk with an Apple watch, and they said when
lid Dirk knew they was trying to come get.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
It, he ended up destroying it.
Speaker 4 (18:38):
And that wasn't the only time he got caught with
something he was supposed to have, because they said they
called him with a cell phone before as well, and
they said he refused to permit official to execute a
DNA one And now the prosecutors is trying to found
the motion to have an anonymous duror for the upcoming
trial because they said litd Dirt could have used that
watch for witness tempering. But Little Dirk is twitching because
even if he's not doing anything wrong, he's still gonna
(19:00):
think he trying to do some witness temper, especially with
him trying to destroy it, because that's gonna make someone
think he really gets something to hide up in it.
And Little Dirk fans ain't making it no better because
they've been calling the federal judges and prosecutors and letting
them know that if they don't free little Dirk, they
gonna do something to him. And I don't even know
why they breaking this up, because let's be real, anyone
that's calling the prosecutors and judges is probably just one
(19:22):
of those random people that be talking tough in the
TikTok comments say you know, they don't never do anything.
At this point, prosecutors just trying to bring up anything
to make Little Dirk look bad because Little Dirt don't
get anything to do with what his fans is doing.
I'm pretty sure he don't know any other people that's
calling the prosecutors or judges, So Little Dirk is making
it worse for himself because they said.
Speaker 5 (19:41):
Bout yeah, bro, the f has just let Pool Shisty go,
and they decided they're not gonna let another rapper walk,
so they decided to add extra charges onto Lil Dirk's case.
I don't know where they found out the information that
litl Dirk was putting hits out on old block members
for not sliding for Ki Vaughn.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
And they even got.
Speaker 5 (20:01):
The mole who saw Little Dirk put these hits out.
Little Dirk is really about to lose the freedom for
the rest of his life just because he wanted to
get back for Vaughan. That shit is crazy. Not only
did they add another charge to his case, they caught
the man in prison with an Apple watch when he's
not supposed to have one. They suspect that he was
(20:22):
trying to have people tamper with evidence so he could
be set free, and they also caught him trying to
break it, but it was too late because they saw
him with the shit already on top of.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
All the extra shit they're throwing at him his face,
So as you heard the young lad over there at
TikTok speak about Dirk has a couple of different situations
going on at the same time, and poushayiste is free. Salute.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
The poushiste came back like a general. You know what
I'm saying. They boy stood up. He ain't do no crying,
no whining, no nothing. He just stood on their business.
Salute the pouf shisty real one, you understand me. Then
came home, Honey, your bed and go get you some money, upright,
and independence standing a paint by that, you understand me.
(21:07):
But back to Dirt. The fans like to paint everything
like witness tampering. You've seen the same thing they did
with Diddy. Well, I think Dirk differs from Diddy is
I think the federal government wants Dirt more than they
wanted Diddy, And they wanted Diddy because if they got Diddy,
they got the fortune that came with it. You know,
(21:29):
me and Umar had a conversation really broke the internet
and went viral about how we truly believe that part
of the reason why they went ahead with those federal
charges and spent that amount of money is because they
believed that they were about to inherit a fortune messing
with Diddy. They were about to seize a fortune, right,
(21:50):
all of those houses. If they hit him with the RICO,
all of the business, maybe even the masters were in question.
This is why you saw Diddy a start to sell
a lot of the assets that were involved with some
of what they called the rico, like some of those homes.
If you notice when he started to try to move
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some of those homes and sell those homes, sell that plane,
That's when they really went ahead and went forward with
the case. Because what happens is if he sells them,
it's harder to track money than it is to track
an asset. So if we can take these assets and
bust them down, like if we can say, Yo, you
flew people on private in that jet.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
As part of the rico, We're gonna seize that jet.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
You had him out in that house that cost fifty
million dollars, it's part of the RICO. We're gonna seize
that as well. Now we're saying you spent bad boy
money because it's a RICO. We're saying you spent your
business money. You had your bodyguard to a part of
your business escorting you through some of these sex compaids
as well as doing things that the federal government said
(22:57):
was illegal. Then we're gonna se sees the record label,
what is under the record label, all the masters and
the recordings and things of that nature. So I think
they were coming for not only because they wanted justice
for those victims, but they definitely had an interest in,
you know, grabbing a fortune from him as well as
(23:18):
controlling his masters and other things. Now with Dirk, for
me to tell you, I think the federal government wants
him more than they wanted Diddy.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
That says a lot.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
They're actively pursuing Dirt in a way where it feels
like they're gonna try to dot all their eyes and
cross all their t's. It almost feels like they want
to make an example out of Dirt, you know, shisty
when it had done his time, he really didn't do
much and nothing, but this Diddy thing. I think they
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want to make up for this Diddy debaccle that just
took place, And I think they want to allocate more
resources to make make sure that what they're trying to
say in court is said in court in a way
where the law won't allow you to wiggle out of it.
From a jury perspective, right, we spoke with Doug and
(24:13):
Thug spoke about Yo. There was two charges that the
way the law was written, there was no way I
can beat those, and so he played guilty to those
at the end is what he says. Because people question
why didn't he ride it out? But he's like, Yo,
the way the law was written, they found this stuff
in that house. It was almost nowhere around that. At
(24:37):
the bare minimum, I would have been found guilty on
those and beat the rico and things of that nature.
So I think the federal government and these high profile cases,
whether it be state or federal, I think they're now
under a microscope. I think they're now on the spotlight
to where they say, Yo, we have to start doing
(24:57):
things in a way where we don't let it feel
like these people are whooping on us. Because what happens
is they influence people the same way they influence people
how to dress. They'll start influencing people to bat this
motherfucker up and go to trial. Yeah, niggas see a
couple of rappers get off. Man, they ain't having niggas
that start batting it up and go on to trial.
(25:21):
That's one thing you gotta always remember is that you're
not just dealing with.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
You know, rappers in a traditional sense.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
These people are influenced, influencing millions of people. For them
to try to say that, yo, they want an anonymous
jury like like they did John Gotti for Dirk and
it's a murder for high. It's like little things like
that tell you. It's indicators on how they pitching. It's
indicators on what kind of game they play. You understand me.
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And it was the same like I said with Diddy.
You come in there and the first thing he say is, oh,
I agree with those guidelines y'all put forward, y'all put
a limb years on there. I ain't never had a
criminal record. How the hell y'all agree with that? But
it tells you, and it's indicators. It's precursors as to
what decisions ultimately will be made and which way they're
(26:14):
leaning towards.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
So you can't never ignore signs.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
I tell niggas when I say I'm dealing with information,
that's what I mean. The ability to surveil the place,
to survey the place and understand what the threats are,
what the exits are, what an interest is who's the
people who have the position in the building and who
can move and who came and where it comes from
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and where it may lead from. These are scenarios you
must calculate risk assessment, the cost balance sheet. Right, it's
the you know, you know, they got an old saying
and say is the juice worth the squeeze? But the
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fears of paying attention today there in a way that
is not traditional, It is unconventional. If you're asking me,
I think coming off the loss with Diddy, coming off
the tobacco in Georgia, with Doug coming off the rocky
thing out there, like, I think that they're trying to
button up. They're trying to button this thing up and
(27:21):
make sure that they handle these cases as efficiently as
they can and they get the convictions that they aim
and set out to get. But they're paying attention to Dirk.
There was also a couple of things where they were
saying that yo, he was putting out hits and this
is allegedly you know have a hard time with reporting
(27:45):
these kind of things, but this is my job, so
I got to lean into it a little more. But
they were saying that Dirk was in a situation where
he was putting hits on people for not sliding for
Vaughn in a timely manner. And all I can think
about this man, that's a hell of a situation to
be in. It's a hell of a situation to be in.
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Slim y'all, winning, y'all, y'all came and messed with somebody
that would have went for me. It had been somebody else,
maybe I can look over it, but this nigga here
would have went for me life on the line. About
this shit. We gotta honor that. But how do we honor?
That becomes the new question because we get caught in
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the echo chamber and we honored that in a way?
Speaker 2 (28:31):
What live by die by this nigga? What?
Speaker 1 (28:37):
But see, you can't put it all on the line
for a little bit of nothing. But then who is
niggas to tell dirt that Vaughn death didn't mean nothing?
I think the universal law was ignored because had it
happened in Chicago, it's an easier you know, it's a
home game. It's easier to score at a home But
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it happened on the road. It's like God was putting
obstacles in in front of it to like, boy, if
you go for this when you really don't give a
fuck what you got gone, you see what I'm saying. See,
sometimes you'll be like, boy, we in the airport, I boy, nigga,
I made to me in traveling the airport this year, Nigga,
(29:23):
I better not fuck up our ability to be able
to walk in and through TSA and really go and
get these bags. Because I'm emotional about this nigga right
here in front of me that may have said or
done something, there's a risk assessment that has to be done.
They should not be ignored. That needs to be incorporated
in your move at that moment. Right, So you got
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to make certain decisions. Sometimes the universe will put things
in front of something that you would have traditionally handled
and you would have handled it in a certain way.
But sometimes the universe will push shit in front of
it to say, boy, if he go get this, that
means he's sacrificing everything he got. And if the man
sacrifice everything I gave him, maybe he don't deserve it.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
If the man.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
Wouldn't have sacrifice everything I gave him, maybe he don't
deserve it. But see, sometime we get caught in our own,
in our own mentality. I know they ain't playing with
this shit, not this one. I know they ain't playing
with this and they rapping about it. So they done
killed my man. They know what kind of ball we play.
We come from Shirak. They don't win and killed my guy.
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They rapping about it, They saying nobody, and they standing
next to one of the biggest artists in the game,
he popping his shit. Ah, they don't turn me into
what I had turned niggas to this whole time. That's
another thing. The universal Law may have been saying, say this,
how such and such a them felt when y'all were
rapping about it. So sometimes you gotta have a harsh
(30:55):
conversation with yourself and say, God, what are we doing
with this one? This one very confusing? This one very confusing,
And sometimes you can lay on it because if it's
serious and I want something to happen to you, i'ma
want something to happen to you ten years from now.
I ain't gonna never let it go. But if I
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got a Russian do with anything that you rush, man,
you dig what I'm saying. Anything that you have to
rushing calls for you to miss out on some pertinent
details and making calls for the failure of the whole operation.
Or it can you know, bring light in the wall
we wanted to remain dull, right, It can lead people
down a pathway of uncovering things that we wanted to
(31:40):
leave bury. And so I'm not sure I'm a fan
of the Russian thing, but I get it if they
do something to this shit tonight, Yeah tonight, not tomorrow night,
not the next day, tonight, let me see something. We
got the money headed that way. I need to hear
(32:01):
about it tonight, right. But I think these black boys
have to have a little bit more emotional stability than
what we have nowadays. And raising little black boys, I
have to remind myself to let my kids know that,
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you know, emotional intelligence, emotional stability or two of the
main things that you're gonna need, not only as a
black man, but as a powerful man, as a man
that can call shots. They can't alter not only your
life but other people's lives. Like if I can call
a shot to have this spot shot up over here,
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I got a really way out when that's worth me
making that call. The same way if I can make
a call to get a nigga into NBA. Everybody can't
make me make that call, So I need to have
some emotional intelligence and emotional stability to make sure I'm
making the calls in the right time. There be a
lot of niggas issue with me. They never made calls
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for me, and they expect me to make calls for them.
Let's keep it high being loved one. Yeah, you never
made calls for me. I never made calls for you.
Let's keep it high being loved one. Now I'm in position,
Let's not start trying to think, Yo, he need to
help us, he need to Let's not start that now.
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Ain't now nigga help me. It ain't now nigga stood
up about this shit. The niggas I love know what's
going on with me. All these other niggas, these own lookers,
these niggas ain't stood up bout this shit all of
a sudden. Now I'm finna come hold niggas head and
walk them through the man y'all, don'ta beat it.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
You ain't dealing with a game goofy.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
I'm really boss, I'm really him, I'm really Nigga made
the biscuits from Battle I'm really one of the coldest
niggas ever created. It's rare you see a man by itself. Boy,
you ought to know something dealing with me. Boy, all
you niggas running in crowds and scared to death for
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your own shadow.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
Man, y'all, don't trick me. Man, y'all, don't trick me. Man.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
I walk down on you, nigga, one on one. I
want to feel the vibration. Yeah, I want to feel
the energy. I don't want to do no whole bunch
of capping with you or repping with you.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
You got to show me something.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
That's the energy I provide, and that's the energy I
xue big boss man dollar sign on every inch when
you deal with me. It's really like that. But I
pray for dirt. I pray for his situation. Hopefully his
scenario works yourself out to where at some point he
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gets to reunite with his children and his family. I
know lives or lost. Things have happened that the government
is a legend. Some very be nasty behavior, some very
illegal behavior. But you know, we take that with a
grain of salt, as we have saw the government mismanage,
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misrepresent and misallocate a certain time to a lot of
individuals in our lifetime, and so prayers up with Dirt.
Hopefully again he gets to reunite with his family and
we definitely send our prayers man to the whole OTF
and little Dirt head up chest out, never let him
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break you. Let's talk about Aisha Curry for people who
don't know, Ayisha Currie has been going viral here lately.
She did an interview on Call Her Daddy, which is
one of the bigger podcasts over at Spotify. Salute to them,
real hustlers. They've really been able to cover a lot
of ground as it pertains to the podcasting game, and
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really it's a blueprint as well. Like one person show
it was to of course, you know the history of
the background used to be on Boss Stool. I mean,
we can do a whole part just about that, and
maybe we will let some other point, but I do
just want to salute what Called Daddy's been able to do,
even Rogan, what Rogan has been able to do, because
that's who I really got my style from and not
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my speaking style. Rogan was the person I said, no
co hosts, right, I started with co hosts and then
I stopped it, I said, I came back and said, no,
co host. That's the way you do it right there,
especially in this culture, because I've seen so many breakups
happen as it pertains the podcast and the dudes going
through things where it's like, oh shit, so you get
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deep into this shit and then they bust the whole
gang up. You gotta remember a couple of my first
interviews were Rory from the Joe Button Podcast from New
Roy Raymond now Mall from the Joe Button Podcast from
the New Roald Rymond Now, Brandon Marshall from I'm Athlete,
Fred Taylor from The Pivot formerly from im Athlete. As
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they all explained to me to break up and when
the money came rolling in and how they dealt with that,
and that's what kind of pushed me down the road
to have this podcast where I didn't have any co hosts,
and thank god, things worked itself out and I was
able to cover some ground in our industry and people
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appreciated what I brought to the game, and it's just
been nothing short of a blessing and me being able
to rock and roll, man. And but we can get
to that another time, and you should carry went on
call her daddy and she's having a conversation. This conversation
is surrounding her absence from her career and what she
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wanted to do with her life prior to meeting and
being with Stephan Curry, and looking back, how she feels
about having children and things of that nature. Now, before
we get into the clip, I do want to say
I should Curry and the way that she speaks about
Steff has been a constant conversation online for maybe the
last three or four years. They've been acknowledging online that
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some of her behavior has painted Steff into a corner
that most men traditionally is uncomfortable with being in. Right,
most men are uncomfortable being in that corner as it
pertains to the way your woman speaks when she comes out.
I want to run this clip and then we'll come
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back with some commentary pay attention.
Speaker 6 (38:30):
On outside of maybe what people were expecting you to
be known for and kind of what we were talking about
with the money thing earlier. It's like, yes, I think
there's a lot of people that like you're Steph Curry's wife,
like go sit in the stands, and like he makes
so much money just be happy and married at twenty two? Yeah,
how did you know you were ready for that?
Speaker 2 (38:51):
I didn't.
Speaker 3 (38:52):
I just knew that I loved him, and I'd never
experienced anything else. I'd never felt any differently than like,
this is who I want to spend the rest of
my life with. And so we kind of just dove in.
Speaker 6 (39:09):
And did anyone or any you or Steph or anyone
have any hesitations about like, oh, we're getting married in
our early twenties or no, no.
Speaker 3 (39:19):
And I say this all the time to our family.
I'm like you, guys, like twenty two. I'm like you, guys,
I'm like not one, not a single parent.
Speaker 2 (39:30):
Nobody was like, hey, guys, are you sure.
Speaker 3 (39:34):
Everybody was like no, this is what's happening, and we
love you and we love you and it's gonna be great.
It's just like wow, like when I really look at it.
Speaker 6 (39:43):
Well and again, because well, I didn't even think I
wanted to get married, Yes, exactly. So it is a
big deal that at twenty two it was.
Speaker 3 (39:51):
It's a mixture of that and a mixture of like
there are levels to twenty two, Like there's different styles
of twenty two year olds. But I was like the naive,
like very young, uh unpolished, twenty two year old, like
I didn't have very much life experience, and so it's
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just interesting.
Speaker 6 (40:13):
It is. But it's what like a few months after
getting married, you said you get three months. Okay, what
was going through your head when you found out that news.
Speaker 3 (40:22):
I was confused because how were you a used because
my ob said expected to take up to a year,
and so I'm like, oh, if in my head I
heard at least a year, I was thinking we were
going to be like bar hopping, Like it's like it's like, nope,
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you're pregnant and you're going to be very, very sick.
But I'm so grateful. I wouldn't change a thing, of course, but.
Speaker 2 (40:51):
I was not on my bingo card.
Speaker 6 (40:55):
What was the hardest part of being a young mom.
Speaker 3 (40:58):
I think my identity so so because I have such
an entrepreneurial spirit. Not being able to call the shots
all the time for myself was freaking weird. And then
learning how to kind of reset myself to make it
all work while still having a family was weird too.
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But it's made me really resilient and like a little gritty.
So I'm grateful for it.
Speaker 6 (41:29):
Yeah, like even thinking about how you said earlier, like
once my daughter turned about one, I was kind of
looking around, like I love being a mom, yeah, but
I also have this other side of me that I
can feel kind of wanting to come back up. And
I think a lot of times women can experience like
or so I've read because I'm obviously not a mother
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yet hopefully, but like women can experience this like mom
guilt of like if I have a career and I'm
not home, like did you experience that?
Speaker 3 (42:01):
I still experience that, I still experience that. I'm almost
like I'm always in therapy talking about this. But what
I realized is like if you lose, if you lose
like for me being married and like with my husband,
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if you lose all of those things that were interesting
about you, even for yourself, like even the things that
made me feel confident and cool, then what, like what
are you doing?
Speaker 1 (42:34):
A lot of this interview got legs online. People were
trying to figure out, you know why, when I should
courage speaks about a marriage and relationship that it feels
like that she feels like that she's missing something. We'll
get to that in a second. I want to set
that to the side, because there's so many things we
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can speak about just about this one clip that we
just want.
Speaker 2 (43:01):
Part of it is, I'm.
Speaker 1 (43:03):
Not sure people understand what it means to put a
burning desire out right, Like if you have that entrepreneur's
spirit and you've been someone that for majority of your life,
you stay up and you burn the midnight or and
you try to figure this thing out and you try
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to maneuver your family towards better days, and if you're
already rich, you still want more.
Speaker 2 (43:32):
I just got that in me. I'm just hustler spirit,
nigga period.
Speaker 1 (43:37):
For you to have to neutralize that, it usually calls
for an identity crisis. Case in point. This is how
I say the universe is so interesting because her husband,
which is Steph Curry, one of the more prominent, probably
one of the top three best shooters ever if you
ask me, Steph Curry has dedicated his life to a
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game and a sport that when it's time to hang
the boots up, most of those gentlemen go through that
identity crisis. They've dedicated their lives and not only a
lot of times they don't have to just dedicate their
lives there's a mother, there's a father, there's a wife,
there's children. All of these entities in every aspect, and
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part of their life has now have to incorporate daddy
play ball. And so everything has been bending at your
will to make sure that this train continues to roll
in a way where sit looks like it's thriving. We
might as well ride this John or not, it makes sense,
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of course, but God forbid that this woman has a
burning desire to want to be an entrepreneur, want to
have some identity outside of being someone's wife. And you know,
sometimes women speak from trauma. Maybe they mother didn't go
through her, but maybe they've seen this story told if
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you listen to her closely, what does she say? She
said what drawed him to me? I want to keep
those characteristics. That's a real threat that I become just
a lady that sit at home and.
Speaker 2 (45:15):
Watch the kids stuff.
Speaker 1 (45:18):
Seems to be the kind of person that is carrying
this thing in a certain way. You know, he's carrying
it where he's basically saying, no matter what she say,
we're good over here. But I also want to talk
about this interview. The young lady that called her daddy
did a great job because, and this is what I
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say about me, I'm always studying game tape. And what
I have to realize is as much as we're having
a conversation, we're also doing the interview. And I think
I shine the brightest when I do both of those.
I can't be too much conversation and I can't be
too much interview. I'm right there in the middle. That's
the style that I brought to the game. That's the
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one that I've been pushing from the get go. And
so what I noticed about her is that she asked
a few questions. I also noticed this about the Cardi
B interview that we may go over.
Speaker 2 (46:13):
I don't know. I don't want to stay a long time.
Speaker 1 (46:15):
I'm just getting back in the swing of it, so
I don't want to come in and do two and
three hours on work my way back up to doing that.
But the Cardi B interview that she just done, I
think it's with It's not Diary of a CEO. It's
Jason Setty. I think it's one of those podcasts. Excuse
(46:35):
me for not having the name right, but when they
start off, they ask about memories and when you were
younger and things of that nature, and I think what
they're doing there is trying to create a environment where
the person feels like, Yo, we're just we're just kicking
and we're just having a little conversation.
Speaker 2 (46:55):
Me.
Speaker 1 (46:56):
I'm natural with that feeling. So I don't I don't foundation.
What I don't consider, and I think is a mistake
on my behalf, is I don't consider that my guess
could be faking defunct as far as the energy that
I'm getting that we've already broken that ice can be
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fake because they you know, a lot of times, these
people who have to go in and out of these
rooms and speaking to people that they may not know,
they tend to know. They tend to have a few
things in the toolbox that they can pull out and
you know, make it feel like it's love when it
may not be love, or acceptance when it may not
be acceptance, or that there's a bond or the ice
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has been broken in a scenario where the ice truly
has not been broken. And I never considered that, you know,
maybe they could be faking. So I have to not
give any room for anything outside of breaking the ice
on camera.
Speaker 2 (47:56):
I gotta do that, right.
Speaker 1 (47:58):
And so these are certain things that I just and
for any creator out there, I suggest that you you
tune into what you do and try to always make
sure that you get better than you was right. My
whole thing is I don't want to be too much
conversation and I don't want to be too much interview.
I think lately sometimes I'm being a little too much
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conversation and not enough interview. And and so we'll address
that moving forward, man, you know, and get everything together.
But anytime i Issha Curius speaks, and I want to
be clear where I stand at, I don't think what
Aisha Curius say is every single time she speaks about
Steph Curry, I don't think she represents the scenario the greatest.
Speaker 2 (48:45):
I'll say that that.
Speaker 1 (48:46):
Sometimes it can come off as unbecoming of a kept woman.
And by no means am I disrespecting this beautiful family,
because I don't get on my platform to do such
a thing, especially in particular to the people like Stuff
and his wife.
Speaker 2 (49:04):
But I think that if we can.
Speaker 1 (49:08):
Zoom out, I think there's a larger conversation to be had,
and I think we've been having it. I'm here today,
but salute the Stuff, no disrespect but when you hear
us speak, I'm gonna be completely honest. I think sometimes
you hear a lot of men speaking out of trauma too,
though you hearing dudes pop out like man, she shouldn't
(49:30):
be saying all that. Man trying to demasculate a nigga
and man, you know niggas be dealing with their own man. Yeah, Man,
I had a girl try to man, they be lying
time bout man, I all let old this that and
the third. You know dudes that try to push that one,
because that's really what they don't really win through. They're
gone and push out right now, do I believe he
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enjoys everything she says?
Speaker 2 (49:56):
I'm not sure.
Speaker 1 (49:57):
I do know that he gonna come out and say, Man,
whatever she's saying, it's all good. But my question of
people lives when they hear step saying that, what they
think they supposed to say?
Speaker 2 (50:08):
What do they think he's supposed to say? Yeah? Nah,
I'm embadrassed by what she's saying.
Speaker 1 (50:14):
Now, the conversation is probably had behind closed door, and
you probably have to get up on your woman and say, hey, babe,
you know, I know you be doing your thing when
you're on the Internet, But you know, I want you
to have a different approach when it comes to me, bab.
And then she said to tell you why you can't
how they look at you? Oh well, you know all nothing,
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all nothing, baby. I'm just tired of hearing it in
where I go. Ah, nothing much. Just ed while I go.
They asked me about how you being treated and if
you happy? And do I think you gonna stay with me?
Speaker 2 (50:47):
Babe?
Speaker 1 (50:48):
Nothing much? I just hoping you don't. You know, some
niggas tiptoeing like that they have made a bad deal.
Some of you niggas done made a bad deal.
Speaker 2 (50:58):
Man. When it comes to.
Speaker 1 (50:59):
The choice, yeah, you niggas is chooses shoos it. So
you done made a bad deal. You done bought a
bad batchel and you stuck with it. You dig and
so you got a tiptoe around instead of being able
to tell you one man, Hey, man, nah, don't do
me like that now. Man, Why I go they ask
me about that? They bothered me. I don't have these
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foe bother me.
Speaker 2 (51:21):
Man. I don't like people bother me. I don't like
no bunch of people around me. I don't need foe
bothering me.
Speaker 1 (51:28):
You know, every time you come out and say something,
you saying the wrong things. And then you're telling me
you saying the wrong things, but you keep saying those things.
So how about you don't say nothing and we've just
nippit it all in the bull. How about you just
don't say nothing, baby, and nippit it all.
Speaker 2 (51:44):
In the bull.
Speaker 1 (51:44):
Let me chase this ring down, let me chase this
Hall of Fame statue down. Let me just keep putting
these points up, getting a hundred two hundred more million
or something. Yeah, you know you kept you put up,
gonea lay down, you dig? How to your beingess now?
But stand down in public, though, stand down in public,
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dough you dig because everywhere I go they keep asking
me about you, even the women. Now, don't let that
go over your head. Yeah, don't let that go over
your here. You putting pressure on me. See that's the
thing that sometimes you putting pressure on me. You don't
win and said this, you keep doing this in public.
How about you just don't say nothing, baby, because you
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keep doing this in public? Man, this shit right here, Man,
this got niggas asking me everywhere I go.
Speaker 2 (52:32):
But guess who else asking me? Babe? The women asking me? Yeah,
the woman asking me.
Speaker 1 (52:38):
They they trying to get next to me too now
because they saying she ain't happy. I can show her
how to smile and why you're gonna put me in
that situation when I'm trying to keep you out of situations.
I'm still front facing in public.
Speaker 2 (52:52):
Man.
Speaker 1 (52:53):
Whatever she say is cool. Man, She just you know,
God for being she having an honest conversation. Because I
ain't gonna lie. Part of me say that, part of
me look at Aisha Kurra and say God for being
these niggas looking at her like God for being, she
having an honest conversation in public, how she truly feels
about her marriage. Some of y'all feel that and won't
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say it for the sake of you can't even have
honest conversations. I think when you've created a space for
each other, I think these are the best scenarios. When
I've created a safe space, surely do what it is
you do, and do it at the highest level. I'm
gonna stop you when you're wrong, man, Trust and believe.
As your man, I'm gonna stop you when you're wrong.
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But I ain't gonna stop you when you're doing something
I don't like you doing. You understand what I'm saying,
but when you're wrong, i'ma gonna stop you.
Speaker 2 (53:44):
But gone.
Speaker 1 (53:45):
You know, it feels like she's in a space where
she can have honest conversations in public, whether that come
with repercussions or not. I can deal with whatever come
with that, and maybe nothing comes with that.
Speaker 2 (53:57):
Maybe that's a healthy relationship. Yo.
Speaker 1 (53:59):
My wife is able to get on a show and say,
what if I never married this mega millionaire nigga? What
if I would have went the other route? How much
would I would have made? Because I'm greatness God for being?
You feel like you greatness God for being? Because I
went under your wing. They think I belonged under your wing.
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I went under your wing to strengthen the flight. I
went under your wing. I don't necessarily belong under your wing.
So what it feels like if I say, man, what
if i'd have flew next to him in stead up
under his wing?
Speaker 2 (54:38):
What if you lose that and you have that entrepreneur
spirit and you lose that? Yo, I ain't next to him.
Speaker 1 (54:44):
I'm under them, but I could appreciate them creating a
safe spaces. What I would like for my woman to
come out and continue to say things that are kunter
intuitive to our brand. No, I would not, and I
say that with all due respect to Ayisha. Carry again,
I think it's love in the l Sometimes, baby, when
you talk, it's some unintentional consequences. It's some collateral damage.
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It's some collateral damage sometimes when you talk and see
due to the climate of the internet, you must take
that into consideration. If I'm playing football and they take
us to Denver, I better know what the wind gus is.
When I'm talking about kicking the ball or throwing the ball,
the wind gus is out. I gotta respect what the
game is put in the mix of it. And we
(55:28):
in a climate where I'm big brand. I'm big business,
right you the queen ud I'm big business. What you've
been able to do with me in fun of me,
them position me to make sure I break it all in,
you understand. But what I don't want you to do
is compromise us in any kind of way. Do me
(55:49):
that kind of favor, Not to compromise me in any
kind of way. Let me leave at least how it came,
if not better, Just don't take nothing from me on
my way out right, good or bad terms. Let us
live wherever we live, at let it letteratips fall where
they may, but let me not leave less. Then I
(56:11):
can add to me, I can't blame a woman. I
think the ambitions is a beautiful thing when you see
a woman and say, yo, I can hustle just like
my man, and he a moltie, and I still you
can still feel the hustle in me. You can still
hear me say, man, I could have really got to
(56:33):
it now. Most women would have laid on down and said, man,
we got it.
Speaker 2 (56:38):
Shit.
Speaker 1 (56:38):
I was just worried about can we get it? He
got it, so we got it. I can lay it down.
She's saying, nah, I can compete with that. And he
done made close to a big if not more. But
I can compete with that. You gotta respect they drive
that hustle, that character trait. That's what a lot of
y'all don't understand. See Steph is in so he probably
(57:01):
feeling that about this woman, that specific part right there,
that spirit that even his wealth can't neutralize that hustler spirit,
that even though he's made over a billion dollars, he
can't neutralize that spirit that that young lady have He
applause that if he me, but too much talking, baby
(57:23):
is compromising the brand. Yeah, nah nah, we putting it. Yeah,
too much talking compromising the brand. So do me so
with all due respect, you understand me, but you shouldn't
have to tiptoe around it. I see a little too
much tip toeing around it. I would have a conversation
straightforward with her, right, but all due respect to stuff
(57:46):
in Aisha Curry man, I thank god they'll be all right.
But God forbid a lot of these niggas speaking from trauma,
and they sounded like God forbid she having an honest
conversation in public.
Speaker 2 (58:00):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (58:02):
And for our last subject, we're gonna get with the
Charleston White and Takashi sixty nine interview. We don't know
what they talking about because we ain't watching nothing of
but we're finna watch it right now, all right. So
if we find some clips we want to react to,
we'll put them here. If not, we're gonna give it
about twenty minutes fifteen minutes.
Speaker 2 (58:22):
Then we
Yo yo, yo, Yo, yo yo. Welcome to It's Up
There podcast. You know the vibes, favorite podcaster kicking real game.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Man.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
We've been on the journey putting game down. People been
picking up when we putting down. We've been picking back
ends up. You know, God is good, The blessing is
in the journey. We thank everyone is watching right now.
Matter of fact, if you watching, go ahead and hit
like hit, subscribe hits. Shall let the people know, say,
we over here listening to the loom right now. We don't
(00:32):
care about nothing else with all the other shit burn.
We're listening to the loom right now, man, So let the
people know this where you at It's up There partcast
leader of the New School.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Ain't none of you niggas done it like me?
Speaker 1 (00:46):
And I say that respectfully, and I don't want to
say the N word too early in the show, So.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Bleep that one. None of you.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Ninjas have done it like me. I'm the only one
of my kind. I'm the only one done it from scratch.
There was a lot of people that'd done it. A
lot of people had teams, a lot of people came
from environments where they had the prior relationships and things
of that nature. I've been able to do it from scratch,
and I just want to highlight that because it's one
of my superpowers that I think isn't spoke about enough.
(01:19):
You know, I was just sitting here thinking, like, it's
now a running joke in the industry amongst some of
my peers and some of the people who you know,
a lot of the people make out the money in
the industry, we sit back and identify some of these
hating a niggas that's in the industry, and so sometimes
it's like a running joke we have about yo.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
You see they don't.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Post this or you see how they act this way
when it comes to you or your shit. And for me,
you know, I used to get kind of upset and
I used to get to a situation like, man, I
won't man, I'm you know, they used to trigger me.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
I'll say that, let's leave it there. It used to
trick me. Now all it does is it tells me.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Number one, there is no one in the industry that
doesn't know who I am, what I do, and what
my platform is. That's number one. Number Two, it shows
me the level of hate that some of these individuals
have and I don't think it's really personal. I think
niggas is just ass whole kind of niggas. You see
(02:25):
what I'm saying, Because if it was personal, I'll feel
that energy and I'll come clear of smoke. There ain't
no smoke anywhere in the world. I ain't cleared up
as it pertains to me and my name. When it
comes to Looan, I know whether or not it's in
the air, and if it's in the air, it's way
up there.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
And so ain't no smoke.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
I ain't coming clean the air, period, right, So I
don't truly believe that it's smoke. I don't truly believe
that there's a personal issue. I think number one, a
lot of these people are just assholes, and they reckons
the business aspect of the game. And hopefully y'all all
forget about me, right, But also part of it is
(03:09):
on me. I haven't done a good enough job in
telling my story and telling y'all how I came from
nothing and how I made the biscuits from battle. See
that's the difference between me and the nigga. I'm the chef,
I ain't the server. I ain't the motherfucker waiting on
the food you dealing with the chef you looking at
(03:30):
the nigga made biscuits from battle from scratch. I am him.
You understand that. And what I say, hold wait in
this coatre and its law in this game. And so
if you ain't picking up what I'm putting down, because
see he go the trick. Everybody you following around, they
ain't doing nothing but picking up what I'm putting down
(03:51):
and remixing it, regurgitating it, tapping in the old shit
out undone and regurgitating it.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
So I got to create a runway to let niggas know.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Oh, the big jet landing now yeah, twenty twenty six,
the big jet landing, Now yeah, y'all been riding on
them ten passenger junts, the big one landing, Now.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
You dig. Part of it is my fault.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
I haven't done a great job at telling my story
twenty twenty six. That's what I want to focus on.
Brand identity and telling my story, and also telling the
story of the platform and how it has this kind
of reach and mean what it means in the culture,
Like it's people that grew up with me that don't know.
It's people that hustle with me that don't know. It's
(04:36):
people that was in school with me that don't know.
It's people that learn next to me that don't know
how I done. Exactly what I've done in the way
that I've done it. I'm the only nigga done it
from scratch. Let that marinate use. So, yeah, all this
oh inheritance niggas inheritance shit like Loan, done it from scratch.
(04:59):
Put a little bit more respect on that nigga, the
yes scratched up on a brick or two. Yeah, put
a little more respect on him. You understand me. Now,
a lot to talk about today, man. I want to
thank each and every person out there, man, no matter
where you are, send positive energy to you and your family.
(05:19):
As you come to hear my motherfucking ministry, as you
come to hear my ministry, as you come to really
hear me break down what I think about some of
the things that we've encountered in this game.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
And God is extremely, extremely good.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
We are coming off the heels of Diddy being sentenced
to fifty months for the prostitution charges that he has
in the Southern District of New York. He has been
charged with the Man Act and got a total of
fifty months for that, if you're asking me and you're
looking at the case law as well as what he's
been charged with. I'll say this again, as I said
(05:58):
last episode, that seems to be an overreach as it
pertains to his situation. Diddy had no prior criminal history
that should have been used against him. But I understand
how the federal government cuts through some of the noise
and they utilize the enhancement side of things with relevant
conduct and other things. Even acquitted scenarios that you may
(06:22):
have been in can drive your points up. According to
some of my research and some of my people that
I do have behind the federal walls, Diddy serving fifty months,
a lot of people wonder why did he cried? Diddy's
a rich person and at sixty years old, nigga getting
a five year sentences like getting a twenty. Then you
(06:44):
compound on top of that the fact that Diddy has
been rich and famous for the last thirty years. He's
been sleeping on Fritch sheets. If you don't know what
that is, google it. These are five to ten grand
apiece right for one sheet set. He's been sleeping on
some of the finest of Cottons wearing the finest of linens,
(07:05):
going to some of the more upscale spots. Even when
he would do freak offs. Here'll be a twenty thousand
dollars a night penthouse, hotel room.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Right.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
So I just want to put in context that you're
not just dealing with a regular sixty old guy. And
even if you were dealing with a regular sixty old guy,
this kind of time is still substantial for someone in
that age.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Breaket. This is an elderly man. Now.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
I know y'all see him dancing and moving around, but
you see all they're great, He's an elderly man at
this point. You know, all the bells and whistles, all
of the perks, all of the things that he had
at his fingertip allowed for him to appear to be
younger than he truly was. That goes out of the
window when you now in federal custody. I do believe
(07:56):
that they're going to get him over to a camp.
Let him do his time at a camp. I think
that'll be more sufficient for him, and I think he'll
calm down and it'll settle in that. I got to
get this little time out the way and get home.
I hated that he cried, even listening to some of
the people you know from the FIST calling my phone,
you know, and they saying, loan man. You know, he
(08:17):
wasn't post to cry, wasn't posed to break down like that.
The hard part over, right, And you know, I tried
to explain to him that Diddy's in a scenario, very
unique scenario, and I try to give room for black
men to be able to express themselves. And if I'm
being honest to people that are behind the walls, they
were more concerned with the future telling of this story,
(08:42):
right if they never seen him break down, they never
seen him buckle right. Somewhere along the lines, I think Diddy,
because of his background is in entertainment, that he believes
a little like acting might work on the judge.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
He don't really understand that.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Early on in y'all arranged at your federal centers in
court day, the judge had already made his decision, and
he really spoke on it really early on when he
said I agree with the guidelines, that was already a
red flag. Then some of the communication that he had
with Diddy showed you which way he was leaning. There's
an old quote that talks about begging for forgiveness. And
(09:20):
some people have that personality type where they'll see someone
digging a grave, right, digging a hole about to bury
their body in it, and they'll sit there and plead
and beg them the entire time. But the thing about that,
a lot of times the person that's digging a hole
doesn't have any sympathy for the victim. And I'm not
(09:42):
saying Diddy's a victim in this situation. I'm speaking to mindset.
He's still looking for sympathy. He's looking for if they
see me broke down, maybe I can get some sympathy.
And also, I think we got to consider the fact
that maybe that's a real reaction and like, Yo, I'm broken, nigga,
(10:03):
I'm sixty years old. I don't want to do no
motherfucking four years in jail. Yeah, but you was facing life.
I think if we look at the overall scenario they did,
he finds himself in at some point he sits back
and he smiles.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Any thanks God.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Yeah, you know what I'm saying, whatever time that he
got at that moment, the hard part is over them.
Folks were trying to give you a leaven. They were
trying to give your eleven twelve just for this. Just
think if they got a guilty on anything else, nigga,
you'd be doing a dug a natural life sentence for
an old nigga like him. So I think if we
(10:39):
look at it and we zoom out and we look
at it for what is worth? Did he ended up
in a better scenario then a lot of us thought
he would end up in At the beginning of this.
They came for his fortune, they came for his credibility,
they came for everything, and they left with damn then nothing.
(10:59):
Now people ask me, Yol, how is his career gonna go?
What do we think about Diddy moving forward? I think
Diddy's resourceful. He's creative enough that if he wants to,
he can do some things. I think he's coming to
sit down somewhere. I do believe he's gonna do interviews.
We'll probably hopefully we'll get him on this up there podcast.
(11:20):
But I think he's gonna go around doing interviews and
speaking about certain things. But the rest of his natural life,
I think it's gonna be just him hustling. I don't
know if he comes out and he's flamboyant as he
was before, free spirited as he was before. Now on
the other side of that in his personal life and
(11:41):
its sexual escapades. In his personal life and it's sexual escapades,
I will say this, I believe that he has a
huge burden lifted off of his back. Could you imagine
being a nigga that want to rub calm on yourself
and don't know? I didn't know, but you and little
(12:01):
Shouty right here is you in this one or two
or a couple of these girls didn't know? So it's
like he was maneuvering with a military secret instead of
really living in his truth. Even though it was rumblings
and people like, yo, the boy did it get into
some wild shit?
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Boy? You think you wild? Boy?
Speaker 1 (12:23):
The boy did it? On another level? You understand me.
It was people that were positioning did it like that
the entire time? Interestingly enough, I don't believe people like
fifty who was positioning, did it like that. I'm not
sure if he thought his actual baby mama was involved
in some of that. I would love to ask him that, like,
did you know she was involved in that? Or was
(12:45):
this just a scenario where you thought that she was
over there being regular and then she pop out on
this on the tape.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
We are sure we're glazing to night. What's up? Say something? Okay?
Shit not oh wow?
Speaker 3 (13:01):
All right?
Speaker 1 (13:01):
Say at night that shit fifty. You've been getting off
some weird shit too, going that Diddy. You know, I
know you kind of immune the cancelation, but you've been
getting off some shit that most niggas wouldn't been able
to get off. Nigga, the culture abandon some of you niggas,
but I think fit. They understands the power position that
(13:22):
he's in. And these niggas are damned to go for anything.
That's one thing about my brand that I'm so lucky
to have positioned myself this way in the game. They
know no one just ain't going for anything. And that's
a fact. I done turn down money. I done turn
down millions. If we being honest, I done had. I
(13:43):
done had a situations where me has been brought to
me and I knew that if I took the money,
what it'll do to my work ethic. It'll smother my
work ethic. Now what do I mean when I say
that as soon as I get the money, I'm lit up,
make a bitch, spit up. But three four or five
(14:05):
years in and now the company's making twenty million dollars
a year and I'm taking home maybe three or four
hundred thousand of that because I sold the company and
now I'm talent on the show. Would have drowned out
my ability to get up every day, happy to do
(14:26):
what I do. And I love coming to speak with y'all.
I love speaking to the culture. So I think it
would have drowned that out in particular, if anything would
have went wrong. See right now, if I can bank
on myself, I'm always go to bed at night knowing
you gotta fight and chain for one thing about you.
You ain't gonna never let it get lay down. You
(14:48):
ain't gonna never just let it go away again. I'm
the only one done it from scratch. When I look around,
I say, ooh, he the only one done it from
scratch with his reach in this niche, this position without
a co host came in like this. I set the
blueprint dollar big dollar sign loom. I set the blueprint
(15:11):
on podcasting without a co host, without all that extra
shit around you, having real conversations that second to nobody.
Loan started that go check your files, go check your
goop salute to y'all that know that. Salute to y'all
that been on the journey. A lot of niggas was
on Instagram popping that shit. I don't even do that
(15:33):
no more. I remember I used to run clips on
Instagram with just real shit, real shit, and I'm about
to start back. So I'm coming back for my spot
as it pertains to home, be kicking real shit on
the ground every single day.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
I'm coming back for that. But I'm the nigga that
started that.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
The music in the background, and are many or two
or just nigga kicking real game. I'm the nigga brought
that to town, and I just stopped doing it. I
stopped doing it and started to focus on the interview
side because there's things I miss it, right, it's reach
(16:10):
that I need. There's certain things that I need that
I was missing, and you know, I'm coming back for
all of that.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
I enjoy this. I enjoyed doing that.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
So I know a lot of my fans that follow
me on the ground, they used to be like, every
single day, he dropping that shit, and you know, we're
gonna get back to doing that and hopefully y'all enjoy it.
But but I was the one that was holding niggas
accountable on camera to the point where they don't even
want me to have regular conversations. They want me to
(16:40):
drill niggas, and I want you all to know that
ain't what I'm doing every single time. Sometime I just
having a conversation. But if we get into a spot
where we need to clarify some things, I'll do that.
But I come in the game standing next to whoever
saying that don't make sense, clarify that. I'm the nigga
that changed the way they done they dealt with that.
To Umar Johnson, people used to let Umar just come
(17:03):
and speak. Loon brought the debate style to the Umar
Johnson scenario and then people start pushing back and it
revived and repositioned Umar as it pertains to his interview style.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
People were like, yo, clarify that, what does that mean.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
I was the first person to do that, and I
had never spoke at a live event before and I
did it live.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
Man, Come on, man, I'm the blueprint and just y'all
forgive me.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
Man. Sometimes I pop my shit. Sometimes I want to
get on here and pop it a little bit so
people will know exactly where we stand. But y'all forgive me,
y'all forgive me, But you know, did it got fifty months?
Speaker 2 (17:46):
I think.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
At some point he looks back at that and he says,
we're blessed to make it out. We're fairly unscathed as
it pertains to what they came for and what they
left with. Right, came for everything, and they left with
little or nothing. So it's still a failure in their eyes.
Speaking of people who are in the federal government custody
(18:10):
Little Dirt, there's been a couple of updates in Little
Dirk's case as it pertains to what he is in
jail for with a murder for hire. I think he's
facing a life sentence. But I think they said they
found a cell phone in his cell pay attention.
Speaker 4 (18:30):
For himself, because they said back in August they called
Little Dirk with an Apple watch, and they said when
lid Dirk knew they was trying to come get.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
It, he ended up destroying it.
Speaker 4 (18:38):
And that wasn't the only time he got caught with
something he was supposed to have, because they said they
called him with a cell phone before as well, and
they said he refused to permit official to execute a
DNA one And now the prosecutors is trying to found
the motion to have an anonymous duror for the upcoming
trial because they said litd Dirt could have used that
watch for witness tempering. But Little Dirk is twitching because
even if he's not doing anything wrong, he's still gonna
(19:00):
think he trying to do some witness temper, especially with
him trying to destroy it, because that's gonna make someone
think he really gets something to hide up in it.
And Little Dirk fans ain't making it no better because
they've been calling the federal judges and prosecutors and letting
them know that if they don't free little Dirk, they
gonna do something to him. And I don't even know
why they breaking this up, because let's be real, anyone
that's calling the prosecutors and judges is probably just one
(19:22):
of those random people that be talking tough in the
TikTok comments say you know, they don't never do anything.
At this point, prosecutors just trying to bring up anything
to make Little Dirk look bad because Little Dirt don't
get anything to do with what his fans is doing.
I'm pretty sure he don't know any other people that's
calling the prosecutors or judges, So Little Dirk is making
it worse for himself because they said.
Speaker 5 (19:41):
Bout yeah, bro, the f has just let Pool Shisty go,
and they decided they're not gonna let another rapper walk,
so they decided to add extra charges onto Lil Dirk's case.
I don't know where they found out the information that
litl Dirk was putting hits out on old block members
for not sliding for Ki Vaughn.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
And they even got.
Speaker 5 (20:01):
The mole who saw Little Dirk put these hits out.
Little Dirk is really about to lose the freedom for
the rest of his life just because he wanted to
get back for Vaughan. That shit is crazy. Not only
did they add another charge to his case, they caught
the man in prison with an Apple watch when he's
not supposed to have one. They suspect that he was
(20:22):
trying to have people tamper with evidence so he could
be set free, and they also caught him trying to
break it, but it was too late because they saw
him with the shit already on top of.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
All the extra shit they're throwing at him his face,
So as you heard the young lad over there at
TikTok speak about Dirk has a couple of different situations
going on at the same time, and poushayiste is free. Salute.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
The poushiste came back like a general. You know what
I'm saying. They boy stood up. He ain't do no crying,
no whining, no nothing. He just stood on their business.
Salute the pouf shisty real one, you understand me. Then
came home, Honey, your bed and go get you some money, upright,
and independence standing a paint by that, you understand me.
(21:07):
But back to Dirt. The fans like to paint everything
like witness tampering. You've seen the same thing they did
with Diddy. Well, I think Dirk differs from Diddy is
I think the federal government wants Dirt more than they
wanted Diddy, And they wanted Diddy because if they got Diddy,
they got the fortune that came with it. You know,
(21:29):
me and Umar had a conversation really broke the internet
and went viral about how we truly believe that part
of the reason why they went ahead with those federal
charges and spent that amount of money is because they
believed that they were about to inherit a fortune messing
with Diddy. They were about to seize a fortune, right,
(21:50):
all of those houses. If they hit him with the RICO,
all of the business, maybe even the masters were in question.
This is why you saw Diddy a start to sell
a lot of the assets that were involved with some
of what they called the rico, like some of those homes.
If you notice when he started to try to move
(22:11):
some of those homes and sell those homes, sell that plane,
That's when they really went ahead and went forward with
the case. Because what happens is if he sells them,
it's harder to track money than it is to track
an asset. So if we can take these assets and
bust them down, like if we can say, Yo, you
flew people on private in that jet.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
As part of the rico, We're gonna seize that jet.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
You had him out in that house that cost fifty
million dollars, it's part of the RICO. We're gonna seize
that as well. Now we're saying you spent bad boy
money because it's a RICO. We're saying you spent your
business money. You had your bodyguard to a part of
your business escorting you through some of these sex compaids
as well as doing things that the federal government said
(22:57):
was illegal. Then we're gonna se sees the record label,
what is under the record label, all the masters and
the recordings and things of that nature. So I think
they were coming for not only because they wanted justice
for those victims, but they definitely had an interest in,
you know, grabbing a fortune from him as well as
(23:18):
controlling his masters and other things. Now with Dirk, for
me to tell you, I think the federal government wants
him more than they wanted Diddy.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
That says a lot.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
They're actively pursuing Dirt in a way where it feels
like they're gonna try to dot all their eyes and
cross all their t's. It almost feels like they want
to make an example out of Dirt, you know, shisty
when it had done his time, he really didn't do
much and nothing, but this Diddy thing. I think they
(23:51):
want to make up for this Diddy debaccle that just
took place, And I think they want to allocate more
resources to make make sure that what they're trying to
say in court is said in court in a way
where the law won't allow you to wiggle out of it.
From a jury perspective, right, we spoke with Doug and
(24:13):
Thug spoke about Yo. There was two charges that the
way the law was written, there was no way I
can beat those, and so he played guilty to those
at the end is what he says. Because people question
why didn't he ride it out? But he's like, Yo,
the way the law was written, they found this stuff
in that house. It was almost nowhere around that. At
(24:37):
the bare minimum, I would have been found guilty on
those and beat the rico and things of that nature.
So I think the federal government and these high profile cases,
whether it be state or federal, I think they're now
under a microscope. I think they're now on the spotlight
to where they say, Yo, we have to start doing
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things in a way where we don't let it feel
like these people are whooping on us. Because what happens
is they influence people the same way they influence people
how to dress. They'll start influencing people to bat this
motherfucker up and go to trial. Yeah, niggas see a
couple of rappers get off. Man, they ain't having niggas
that start batting it up and go on to trial.
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That's one thing you gotta always remember is that you're
not just dealing with.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
You know, rappers in a traditional sense.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
These people are influenced, influencing millions of people. For them
to try to say that, yo, they want an anonymous
jury like like they did John Gotti for Dirk and
it's a murder for high. It's like little things like
that tell you. It's indicators on how they pitching. It's
indicators on what kind of game they play. You understand me.
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And it was the same like I said with Diddy.
You come in there and the first thing he say is, oh,
I agree with those guidelines y'all put forward, y'all put
a limb years on there. I ain't never had a
criminal record. How the hell y'all agree with that? But
it tells you, and it's indicators. It's precursors as to
what decisions ultimately will be made and which way they're
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leaning towards.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
So you can't never ignore signs.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
I tell niggas when I say I'm dealing with information,
that's what I mean. The ability to surveil the place,
to survey the place and understand what the threats are,
what the exits are, what an interest is who's the
people who have the position in the building and who
can move and who came and where it comes from
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and where it may lead from. These are scenarios you
must calculate risk assessment, the cost balance sheet. Right, it's
the you know, you know, they got an old saying
and say is the juice worth the squeeze? But the
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fears of paying attention today there in a way that
is not traditional, It is unconventional. If you're asking me,
I think coming off the loss with Diddy, coming off
the tobacco in Georgia, with Doug coming off the rocky
thing out there, like, I think that they're trying to
button up. They're trying to button this thing up and
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make sure that they handle these cases as efficiently as
they can and they get the convictions that they aim
and set out to get. But they're paying attention to Dirk.
There was also a couple of things where they were
saying that yo, he was putting out hits and this
is allegedly you know have a hard time with reporting
(27:45):
these kind of things, but this is my job, so
I got to lean into it a little more. But
they were saying that Dirk was in a situation where
he was putting hits on people for not sliding for
Vaughn in a timely manner. And all I can think
about this man, that's a hell of a situation to
be in. It's a hell of a situation to be in.
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Slim y'all, winning, y'all, y'all came and messed with somebody
that would have went for me. It had been somebody else,
maybe I can look over it, but this nigga here
would have went for me life on the line. About
this shit. We gotta honor that. But how do we honor?
That becomes the new question because we get caught in
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the echo chamber and we honored that in a way?
Speaker 2 (28:31):
What live by die by this nigga? What?
Speaker 1 (28:37):
But see, you can't put it all on the line
for a little bit of nothing. But then who is
niggas to tell dirt that Vaughn death didn't mean nothing?
I think the universal law was ignored because had it
happened in Chicago, it's an easier you know, it's a
home game. It's easier to score at a home But
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it happened on the road. It's like God was putting
obstacles in in front of it to like, boy, if
you go for this when you really don't give a
fuck what you got gone, you see what I'm saying. See,
sometimes you'll be like, boy, we in the airport, I boy, nigga,
I made to me in traveling the airport this year, Nigga,
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I better not fuck up our ability to be able
to walk in and through TSA and really go and
get these bags. Because I'm emotional about this nigga right
here in front of me that may have said or
done something, there's a risk assessment that has to be done.
They should not be ignored. That needs to be incorporated
in your move at that moment. Right, So you got
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to make certain decisions. Sometimes the universe will put things
in front of something that you would have traditionally handled
and you would have handled it in a certain way.
But sometimes the universe will push shit in front of
it to say, boy, if he go get this, that
means he's sacrificing everything he got. And if the man
sacrifice everything I gave him, maybe he don't deserve it.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
If the man.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
Wouldn't have sacrifice everything I gave him, maybe he don't
deserve it. But see, sometime we get caught in our own,
in our own mentality. I know they ain't playing with
this shit, not this one. I know they ain't playing
with this and they rapping about it. So they done
killed my man. They know what kind of ball we play.
We come from Shirak. They don't win and killed my guy.
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They rapping about it, They saying nobody, and they standing
next to one of the biggest artists in the game,
he popping his shit. Ah, they don't turn me into
what I had turned niggas to this whole time. That's
another thing. The universal Law may have been saying, say this,
how such and such a them felt when y'all were
rapping about it. So sometimes you gotta have a harsh
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conversation with yourself and say, God, what are we doing
with this one? This one very confusing? This one very confusing,
And sometimes you can lay on it because if it's
serious and I want something to happen to you, i'ma
want something to happen to you ten years from now.
I ain't gonna never let it go. But if I
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got a Russian do with anything that you rush, man,
you dig what I'm saying. Anything that you have to
rushing calls for you to miss out on some pertinent
details and making calls for the failure of the whole operation.
Or it can you know, bring light in the wall
we wanted to remain dull, right, It can lead people
down a pathway of uncovering things that we wanted to
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leave bury. And so I'm not sure I'm a fan
of the Russian thing, but I get it if they
do something to this shit tonight, Yeah tonight, not tomorrow night,
not the next day, tonight, let me see something. We
got the money headed that way. I need to hear
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about it tonight, right. But I think these black boys
have to have a little bit more emotional stability than
what we have nowadays. And raising little black boys, I
have to remind myself to let my kids know that,
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you know, emotional intelligence, emotional stability or two of the
main things that you're gonna need, not only as a
black man, but as a powerful man, as a man
that can call shots. They can't alter not only your
life but other people's lives. Like if I can call
a shot to have this spot shot up over here,
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I got a really way out when that's worth me
making that call. The same way if I can make
a call to get a nigga into NBA. Everybody can't
make me make that call, So I need to have
some emotional intelligence and emotional stability to make sure I'm
making the calls in the right time. There be a
lot of niggas issue with me. They never made calls
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for me, and they expect me to make calls for them.
Let's keep it high being loved one. Yeah, you never
made calls for me. I never made calls for you.
Let's keep it high being loved one. Now I'm in position,
Let's not start trying to think, Yo, he need to
help us, he need to Let's not start that now.
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Ain't now nigga help me. It ain't now nigga stood
up about this shit. The niggas I love know what's
going on with me. All these other niggas, these own lookers,
these niggas ain't stood up bout this shit all of
a sudden. Now I'm finna come hold niggas head and
walk them through the man y'all, don'ta beat it.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
You ain't dealing with a game goofy.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
I'm really boss, I'm really him, I'm really Nigga made
the biscuits from Battle I'm really one of the coldest
niggas ever created. It's rare you see a man by itself. Boy,
you ought to know something dealing with me. Boy, all
you niggas running in crowds and scared to death for
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your own shadow.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
Man, y'all, don't trick me. Man, y'all, don't trick me. Man.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
I walk down on you, nigga, one on one. I
want to feel the vibration. Yeah, I want to feel
the energy. I don't want to do no whole bunch
of capping with you or repping with you.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
You got to show me something.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
That's the energy I provide, and that's the energy I
xue big boss man dollar sign on every inch when
you deal with me. It's really like that. But I
pray for dirt. I pray for his situation. Hopefully his
scenario works yourself out to where at some point he
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gets to reunite with his children and his family. I
know lives or lost. Things have happened that the government
is a legend. Some very be nasty behavior, some very
illegal behavior. But you know, we take that with a
grain of salt, as we have saw the government mismanage,
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misrepresent and misallocate a certain time to a lot of
individuals in our lifetime, and so prayers up with Dirt.
Hopefully again he gets to reunite with his family and
we definitely send our prayers man to the whole OTF
and little Dirt head up chest out, never let him
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break you. Let's talk about Aisha Curry for people who
don't know, Ayisha Currie has been going viral here lately.
She did an interview on Call Her Daddy, which is
one of the bigger podcasts over at Spotify. Salute to them,
real hustlers. They've really been able to cover a lot
of ground as it pertains to the podcasting game, and
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really it's a blueprint as well. Like one person show
it was to of course, you know the history of
the background used to be on Boss Stool. I mean,
we can do a whole part just about that, and
maybe we will let some other point, but I do
just want to salute what Called Daddy's been able to do,
even Rogan, what Rogan has been able to do, because
that's who I really got my style from and not
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my speaking style. Rogan was the person I said, no
co hosts, right, I started with co hosts and then
I stopped it, I said, I came back and said, no,
co host. That's the way you do it right there,
especially in this culture, because I've seen so many breakups
happen as it pertains the podcast and the dudes going
through things where it's like, oh shit, so you get
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deep into this shit and then they bust the whole
gang up. You gotta remember a couple of my first
interviews were Rory from the Joe Button Podcast from New
Roy Raymond now Mall from the Joe Button Podcast from
the New Roald Rymond Now, Brandon Marshall from I'm Athlete,
Fred Taylor from The Pivot formerly from im Athlete. As
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they all explained to me to break up and when
the money came rolling in and how they dealt with that,
and that's what kind of pushed me down the road
to have this podcast where I didn't have any co hosts,
and thank god, things worked itself out and I was
able to cover some ground in our industry and people
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appreciated what I brought to the game, and it's just
been nothing short of a blessing and me being able
to rock and roll, man. And but we can get
to that another time, and you should carry went on
call her daddy and she's having a conversation. This conversation
is surrounding her absence from her career and what she
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wanted to do with her life prior to meeting and
being with Stephan Curry, and looking back, how she feels
about having children and things of that nature. Now, before
we get into the clip, I do want to say
I should Curry and the way that she speaks about
Steff has been a constant conversation online for maybe the
last three or four years. They've been acknowledging online that
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some of her behavior has painted Steff into a corner
that most men traditionally is uncomfortable with being in. Right,
most men are uncomfortable being in that corner as it
pertains to the way your woman speaks when she comes out.
I want to run this clip and then we'll come
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back with some commentary pay attention.
Speaker 6 (38:30):
On outside of maybe what people were expecting you to
be known for and kind of what we were talking about
with the money thing earlier. It's like, yes, I think
there's a lot of people that like you're Steph Curry's wife,
like go sit in the stands, and like he makes
so much money just be happy and married at twenty two? Yeah,
how did you know you were ready for that?
Speaker 2 (38:51):
I didn't.
Speaker 3 (38:52):
I just knew that I loved him, and I'd never
experienced anything else. I'd never felt any differently than like,
this is who I want to spend the rest of
my life with. And so we kind of just dove in.
Speaker 6 (39:09):
And did anyone or any you or Steph or anyone
have any hesitations about like, oh, we're getting married in
our early twenties or no, no.
Speaker 3 (39:19):
And I say this all the time to our family.
I'm like you, guys, like twenty two. I'm like you, guys,
I'm like not one, not a single parent.
Speaker 2 (39:30):
Nobody was like, hey, guys, are you sure.
Speaker 3 (39:34):
Everybody was like no, this is what's happening, and we
love you and we love you and it's gonna be great.
It's just like wow, like when I really look at it.
Speaker 6 (39:43):
Well and again, because well, I didn't even think I
wanted to get married, Yes, exactly. So it is a
big deal that at twenty two it was.
Speaker 3 (39:51):
It's a mixture of that and a mixture of like
there are levels to twenty two, Like there's different styles
of twenty two year olds. But I was like the naive,
like very young, uh unpolished, twenty two year old, like
I didn't have very much life experience, and so it's
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just interesting.
Speaker 6 (40:13):
It is. But it's what like a few months after
getting married, you said you get three months. Okay, what
was going through your head when you found out that news.
Speaker 3 (40:22):
I was confused because how were you a used because
my ob said expected to take up to a year,
and so I'm like, oh, if in my head I
heard at least a year, I was thinking we were
going to be like bar hopping, Like it's like it's like, nope,
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you're pregnant and you're going to be very, very sick.
But I'm so grateful. I wouldn't change a thing, of course, but.
Speaker 2 (40:51):
I was not on my bingo card.
Speaker 6 (40:55):
What was the hardest part of being a young mom.
Speaker 3 (40:58):
I think my identity so so because I have such
an entrepreneurial spirit. Not being able to call the shots
all the time for myself was freaking weird. And then
learning how to kind of reset myself to make it
all work while still having a family was weird too.
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But it's made me really resilient and like a little gritty.
So I'm grateful for it.
Speaker 6 (41:29):
Yeah, like even thinking about how you said earlier, like
once my daughter turned about one, I was kind of
looking around, like I love being a mom, yeah, but
I also have this other side of me that I
can feel kind of wanting to come back up. And
I think a lot of times women can experience like
or so I've read because I'm obviously not a mother
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yet hopefully, but like women can experience this like mom
guilt of like if I have a career and I'm
not home, like did you experience that?
Speaker 3 (42:01):
I still experience that, I still experience that. I'm almost
like I'm always in therapy talking about this. But what
I realized is like if you lose, if you lose
like for me being married and like with my husband,
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if you lose all of those things that were interesting
about you, even for yourself, like even the things that
made me feel confident and cool, then what, like what
are you doing?
Speaker 1 (42:34):
A lot of this interview got legs online. People were
trying to figure out, you know why, when I should
courage speaks about a marriage and relationship that it feels
like that she feels like that she's missing something. We'll
get to that in a second. I want to set
that to the side, because there's so many things we
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can speak about just about this one clip that we
just want.
Speaker 2 (43:01):
Part of it is, I'm.
Speaker 1 (43:03):
Not sure people understand what it means to put a
burning desire out right, Like if you have that entrepreneur's
spirit and you've been someone that for majority of your life,
you stay up and you burn the midnight or and
you try to figure this thing out and you try
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to maneuver your family towards better days, and if you're
already rich, you still want more.
Speaker 2 (43:32):
I just got that in me. I'm just hustler spirit,
nigga period.
Speaker 1 (43:37):
For you to have to neutralize that, it usually calls
for an identity crisis. Case in point. This is how
I say the universe is so interesting because her husband,
which is Steph Curry, one of the more prominent, probably
one of the top three best shooters ever if you
ask me, Steph Curry has dedicated his life to a
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game and a sport that when it's time to hang
the boots up, most of those gentlemen go through that
identity crisis. They've dedicated their lives and not only a
lot of times they don't have to just dedicate their
lives there's a mother, there's a father, there's a wife,
there's children. All of these entities in every aspect, and
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part of their life has now have to incorporate daddy
play ball. And so everything has been bending at your
will to make sure that this train continues to roll
in a way where sit looks like it's thriving. We
might as well ride this John or not, it makes sense,
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of course, but God forbid that this woman has a
burning desire to want to be an entrepreneur, want to
have some identity outside of being someone's wife. And you know,
sometimes women speak from trauma. Maybe they mother didn't go
through her, but maybe they've seen this story told if
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you listen to her closely, what does she say? She
said what drawed him to me? I want to keep
those characteristics. That's a real threat that I become just
a lady that sit at home and.
Speaker 2 (45:15):
Watch the kids stuff.
Speaker 1 (45:18):
Seems to be the kind of person that is carrying
this thing in a certain way. You know, he's carrying
it where he's basically saying, no matter what she say,
we're good over here. But I also want to talk
about this interview. The young lady that called her daddy
did a great job because, and this is what I
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say about me, I'm always studying game tape. And what
I have to realize is as much as we're having
a conversation, we're also doing the interview. And I think
I shine the brightest when I do both of those.
I can't be too much conversation and I can't be
too much interview. I'm right there in the middle. That's
the style that I brought to the game. That's the
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one that I've been pushing from the get go. And
so what I noticed about her is that she asked
a few questions. I also noticed this about the Cardi
B interview that we may go over.
Speaker 2 (46:13):
I don't know. I don't want to stay a long time.
Speaker 1 (46:15):
I'm just getting back in the swing of it, so
I don't want to come in and do two and
three hours on work my way back up to doing that.
But the Cardi B interview that she just done, I
think it's with It's not Diary of a CEO. It's
Jason Setty. I think it's one of those podcasts. Excuse
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me for not having the name right, but when they
start off, they ask about memories and when you were
younger and things of that nature, and I think what
they're doing there is trying to create a environment where
the person feels like, Yo, we're just we're just kicking
and we're just having a little conversation.
Speaker 2 (46:55):
Me.
Speaker 1 (46:56):
I'm natural with that feeling. So I don't I don't foundation.
What I don't consider, and I think is a mistake
on my behalf, is I don't consider that my guess
could be faking defunct as far as the energy that
I'm getting that we've already broken that ice can be
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fake because they you know, a lot of times, these
people who have to go in and out of these
rooms and speaking to people that they may not know,
they tend to know. They tend to have a few
things in the toolbox that they can pull out and
you know, make it feel like it's love when it
may not be love, or acceptance when it may not
be acceptance, or that there's a bond or the ice
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has been broken in a scenario where the ice truly
has not been broken. And I never considered that, you know,
maybe they could be faking. So I have to not
give any room for anything outside of breaking the ice
on camera.
Speaker 2 (47:56):
I gotta do that, right.
Speaker 1 (47:58):
And so these are certain things that I just and
for any creator out there, I suggest that you you
tune into what you do and try to always make
sure that you get better than you was right. My
whole thing is I don't want to be too much
conversation and I don't want to be too much interview.
I think lately sometimes I'm being a little too much
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conversation and not enough interview. And and so we'll address
that moving forward, man, you know, and get everything together.
But anytime i Issha Curius speaks, and I want to
be clear where I stand at, I don't think what
Aisha Curius say is every single time she speaks about
Steph Curry, I don't think she represents the scenario the greatest.
Speaker 2 (48:45):
I'll say that that.
Speaker 1 (48:46):
Sometimes it can come off as unbecoming of a kept woman.
And by no means am I disrespecting this beautiful family,
because I don't get on my platform to do such
a thing, especially in particular to the people like Stuff
and his wife.
Speaker 2 (49:04):
But I think that if we can.
Speaker 1 (49:08):
Zoom out, I think there's a larger conversation to be had,
and I think we've been having it. I'm here today,
but salute the Stuff, no disrespect but when you hear
us speak, I'm gonna be completely honest. I think sometimes
you hear a lot of men speaking out of trauma too,
though you hearing dudes pop out like man, she shouldn't
(49:30):
be saying all that. Man trying to demasculate a nigga
and man, you know niggas be dealing with their own man. Yeah, Man,
I had a girl try to man, they be lying
time bout man, I all let old this that and
the third. You know dudes that try to push that one,
because that's really what they don't really win through. They're
gone and push out right now, do I believe he
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enjoys everything she says?
Speaker 2 (49:56):
I'm not sure.
Speaker 1 (49:57):
I do know that he gonna come out and say, Man,
whatever she's saying, it's all good. But my question of
people lives when they hear step saying that, what they
think they supposed to say?
Speaker 2 (50:08):
What do they think he's supposed to say? Yeah? Nah,
I'm embadrassed by what she's saying.
Speaker 1 (50:14):
Now, the conversation is probably had behind closed door, and
you probably have to get up on your woman and say, hey, babe,
you know, I know you be doing your thing when
you're on the Internet, But you know, I want you
to have a different approach when it comes to me, bab.
And then she said to tell you why you can't
how they look at you? Oh well, you know all nothing,
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all nothing, baby. I'm just tired of hearing it in
where I go. Ah, nothing much. Just ed while I go.
They asked me about how you being treated and if
you happy? And do I think you gonna stay with me?
Speaker 2 (50:47):
Babe?
Speaker 1 (50:48):
Nothing much? I just hoping you don't. You know, some
niggas tiptoeing like that they have made a bad deal.
Some of you niggas done made a bad deal.
Speaker 2 (50:58):
Man. When it comes to.
Speaker 1 (50:59):
The choice, yeah, you niggas is chooses shoos it. So
you done made a bad deal. You done bought a
bad batchel and you stuck with it. You dig and
so you got a tiptoe around instead of being able
to tell you one man, Hey, man, nah, don't do
me like that now. Man, Why I go they ask
me about that? They bothered me. I don't have these
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foe bother me.
Speaker 2 (51:21):
Man. I don't like people bother me. I don't like
no bunch of people around me. I don't need foe
bothering me.
Speaker 1 (51:28):
You know, every time you come out and say something,
you saying the wrong things. And then you're telling me
you saying the wrong things, but you keep saying those things.
So how about you don't say nothing and we've just
nippit it all in the bull. How about you just
don't say nothing, baby, and nippit it all.
Speaker 2 (51:44):
In the bull.
Speaker 1 (51:44):
Let me chase this ring down, let me chase this
Hall of Fame statue down. Let me just keep putting
these points up, getting a hundred two hundred more million
or something. Yeah, you know you kept you put up,
gonea lay down, you dig? How to your beingess now?
But stand down in public, though, stand down in public,
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dough you dig because everywhere I go they keep asking
me about you, even the women. Now, don't let that
go over your head. Yeah, don't let that go over
your here. You putting pressure on me. See that's the
thing that sometimes you putting pressure on me. You don't
win and said this, you keep doing this in public.
How about you just don't say nothing, baby, because you
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keep doing this in public? Man, this shit right here, Man,
this got niggas asking me everywhere I go.
Speaker 2 (52:32):
But guess who else asking me? Babe? The women asking me? Yeah,
the woman asking me.
Speaker 1 (52:38):
They they trying to get next to me too now
because they saying she ain't happy. I can show her
how to smile and why you're gonna put me in
that situation when I'm trying to keep you out of situations.
I'm still front facing in public.
Speaker 2 (52:52):
Man.
Speaker 1 (52:53):
Whatever she say is cool. Man, She just you know,
God for being she having an honest conversation. Because I
ain't gonna lie. Part of me say that, part of
me look at Aisha Kurra and say God for being
these niggas looking at her like God for being, she
having an honest conversation in public, how she truly feels
about her marriage. Some of y'all feel that and won't
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say it for the sake of you can't even have
honest conversations. I think when you've created a space for
each other, I think these are the best scenarios. When
I've created a safe space, surely do what it is
you do, and do it at the highest level. I'm
gonna stop you when you're wrong, man, Trust and believe.
As your man, I'm gonna stop you when you're wrong.
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But I ain't gonna stop you when you're doing something
I don't like you doing. You understand what I'm saying,
but when you're wrong, i'ma gonna stop you.
Speaker 2 (53:44):
But gone.
Speaker 1 (53:45):
You know, it feels like she's in a space where
she can have honest conversations in public, whether that come
with repercussions or not. I can deal with whatever come
with that, and maybe nothing comes with that.
Speaker 2 (53:57):
Maybe that's a healthy relationship. Yo.
Speaker 1 (53:59):
My wife is able to get on a show and say,
what if I never married this mega millionaire nigga? What
if I would have went the other route? How much
would I would have made? Because I'm greatness God for being?
You feel like you greatness God for being? Because I
went under your wing. They think I belonged under your wing.
(54:22):
I went under your wing to strengthen the flight. I
went under your wing. I don't necessarily belong under your wing.
So what it feels like if I say, man, what
if i'd have flew next to him in stead up
under his wing?
Speaker 2 (54:38):
What if you lose that and you have that entrepreneur
spirit and you lose that? Yo, I ain't next to him.
Speaker 1 (54:44):
I'm under them, but I could appreciate them creating a
safe spaces. What I would like for my woman to
come out and continue to say things that are kunter
intuitive to our brand. No, I would not, and I
say that with all due respect to Ayisha. Carry again,
I think it's love in the l Sometimes, baby, when
you talk, it's some unintentional consequences. It's some collateral damage.
(55:08):
It's some collateral damage sometimes when you talk and see
due to the climate of the internet, you must take
that into consideration. If I'm playing football and they take
us to Denver, I better know what the wind gus is.
When I'm talking about kicking the ball or throwing the ball,
the wind gus is out. I gotta respect what the
game is put in the mix of it. And we
(55:28):
in a climate where I'm big brand. I'm big business,
right you the queen ud I'm big business. What you've
been able to do with me in fun of me,
them position me to make sure I break it all in,
you understand. But what I don't want you to do
is compromise us in any kind of way. Do me
(55:49):
that kind of favor, Not to compromise me in any
kind of way. Let me leave at least how it came,
if not better, Just don't take nothing from me on
my way out right, good or bad terms. Let us
live wherever we live, at let it letteratips fall where
they may, but let me not leave less. Then I
(56:11):
can add to me, I can't blame a woman. I
think the ambitions is a beautiful thing when you see
a woman and say, yo, I can hustle just like
my man, and he a moltie, and I still you
can still feel the hustle in me. You can still
hear me say, man, I could have really got to
(56:33):
it now. Most women would have laid on down and said, man,
we got it.
Speaker 2 (56:38):
Shit.
Speaker 1 (56:38):
I was just worried about can we get it? He
got it, so we got it. I can lay it down.
She's saying, nah, I can compete with that. And he
done made close to a big if not more. But
I can compete with that. You gotta respect they drive
that hustle, that character trait. That's what a lot of
y'all don't understand. See Steph is in so he probably
(57:01):
feeling that about this woman, that specific part right there,
that spirit that even his wealth can't neutralize that hustler spirit,
that even though he's made over a billion dollars, he
can't neutralize that spirit that that young lady have He
applause that if he me, but too much talking, baby
(57:23):
is compromising the brand. Yeah, nah nah, we putting it. Yeah,
too much talking compromising the brand. So do me so
with all due respect, you understand me, but you shouldn't
have to tiptoe around it. I see a little too
much tip toeing around it. I would have a conversation
straightforward with her, right, but all due respect to stuff
(57:46):
in Aisha Curry man, I thank god they'll be all right.
But God forbid a lot of these niggas speaking from trauma,
and they sounded like God forbid she having an honest
conversation in public.
Speaker 2 (58:00):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (58:02):
And for our last subject, we're gonna get with the
Charleston White and Takashi sixty nine interview. We don't know
what they talking about because we ain't watching nothing of
but we're finna watch it right now, all right. So
if we find some clips we want to react to,
we'll put them here. If not, we're gonna give it
about twenty minutes fifteen minutes.
Speaker 2 (58:22):
Then we
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