February 17, 2025 • 62 mins
This episode is packed with drama from all corners of the culture! Loon kicks off by comparing Drake's situation with the infamous Montreal Screwjob, explaining how the music industry pulled a Bret Hart move on him (2:45). We dive deep into Kanye West’s latest antics and his calculated shots at Kim Kardashian with his new wife Bianca Censori (15:20). The conversation turns toward Akademiks, calling out his unsubstantiated claims about record labels sabotaging Drake's career (32:10). The crew also breaks down Kendrick Lamar’s Grammy clean sweep and the signals it sends about the industry’s power plays (45:55). Is Kendrick on an unstoppable generational run, or is this part of a larger industry narrative? We cover it all! Finally, Loon dissects why Kanye's move at the Grammys was a marketing masterpiece (1:08:34), how Drake’s rumored album with PartyNextDoor puts pressure on Universal (1:22:45), and why Akademiks’ reckless comments need to be fact-checked (1:37:15). Plus, insights on Babyface’s viral red carpet moment and much more! Timestamps: 0:00 – Drake vs Kendrick = Bret Hart vs Vince McMahon 2:10 – Grammys Set Drake Up? Montreal Screwjob 6:00 – Kendrick Snatches 5 Grammys 8:45 – Playing Chess, Not Checkers 12:20 – Music Industry Power Moves 16:10 – Rage Baiting Black Artists 20:30 – Kanye’s Genius at the Grammys 25:00 – Drake’s Legal Trick Bag 28:35 – Babyface Disrespected! 32:50 – Kanye’s Real Competition 35:15 – Kanye’s Creative Cheat Code 39:00 – Kendrick vs Drake Narrative 41:30 – Drake’s Biggest Weakness 45:00 – Communicate or Be Controlled 48:20 – Final Thoughts & Wrap-Up 📲 Stay Connected: 🎧 Listen to the full podcast on Black Effect 💬 Join the conversation on Discord: https://discord.gg/3AwsHfDcJB 🔥 Exclusive Content on Patreon: https://patreon.com/ItsUpTherePodcast 📺 Watch More Episodes: YouTube Playlist #Drake #KanyeWest #KimKardashian #Akademiks #KendrickLamar #Grammys2025 #MusicIndustry #ItsUpTherePodcast #Loon #HipHopDrama #BlackEffect #PodcastClips #EntertainmentNews
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
But for lack of a better term, there was a party,
if you will, if you asked me right. I grew
up watching wrestling, and there was a time that I
want to think about when I look at Drake. I
look at Drake and Lucien Grains, like Brett Hard and
Vince McMahon. I remember a time when Vince McMahon was
(00:25):
reached a cross road with Brett Hart, which was one
of his top superstars at the time.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
But they couldn't let Brett leave with the title and
then show up on WCWTV the next night.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Who's gonna win him?
Speaker 4 (00:42):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (00:43):
Brett thought the match was going to go one way.
Sean and Vince McMahon come up with a different plan.
Brett doesn't know about the plan. We're being told by
Vince like this, coach your grave, this is high level
lesbian man.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
The whole thing was uncomfortable.
Speaker 6 (01:06):
I was out there.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
You know. They had created a spot where Sean was
gonna put Brett's move, which is a submission hold the
sharpshooter on Bred.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
The betrayal did Brett Hart felt. Drake feels Brett Hart
was down with the w W E.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
F fifteen twenty LA.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
It's definitely one of the most faithing stories in our industry.
De Montreal screw job.
Speaker 5 (01:42):
Just minutes into that match, not one person on planet
Earth thinks the match is going ten. So when all
of a sudden the bell rats, there's complete confusion as.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
To why the match has ended. He said Resmitic, WHI
should happened? It was basically a tip to make sure
that they got the title off of Bread.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
I can see Vincy a drinking bell.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Understand that.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Believe I believe Drake to feel like Brett felt in
that moment with the belt, with all the streaming numbers,
with all the accolades they go along, will be in
the face of the rap world or just one of
the bigger artists in the world. Vincha McMahon, creep down
(02:41):
to the ring while you in there squabbling with one
of the best in the business.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Man, vin mcmon creeped down to the ring, you squabbling
on one of the best in the business.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
But I want you to understand that all those people
that are screaming a minor and they're sending a clip
message by playing the pdfive part of the actual song
where they're calling Drake got his name while there's an
ongoing lawsuit. Again, when you are a corporation of his magnitude,
you can't send communication and say yo, NFL F Drake
(03:14):
played at the super Bowl. But once you see us
green lighted at the Grammys, you know what that mean
for the super Bowl. Kendrick Lamar. We want to start
with congratulations to Kendrick Lamar, as he did a clean
sweep and he left the Grammy. He left the Grammys
in twenty twenty five with five awards, So we started
(03:37):
with congratulations to Kendrick. He's on a generational run. He
show up to the Grammys in the Canadian suit. It's
important for him not to look too joyful because he's
been anti corporation. He can't just run up there and
take all awards and look like a fool and say
how he just wanted the keys to the front door.
(03:58):
He didn't want to burn the house down. Ah, Kendy
just wanted the key to the front door. So he
gotta come up on some.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
Super cool, too cool for school that's gonna keep him
in right, pay attention. Oh what the deal?
Speaker 4 (04:14):
Get this luck.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
First and foremost, So I'm gonna push back a little
bit on what everyone else is saying. A lot of
the music people are saying, Yo, they're not gonna support it.
I think with the ongoing litigation, Drake is trying to
put him in the trick bag because if they don't.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
Pull the moves that they usually pull for this.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Album, then it's abundantly clear that they're doing it on purpose.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
Then you got certain people like academics with.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
These unfounded, unsubstantiated claims that he's talking the record labels
in there telling him that they're gonna sabotage Drake.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Picture that.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Picture someone at a record label with the power to
sabotage Drake telling academics for Drake that they plan on
sabotage and Drake picture that.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
Do you think I'm Susan Sasa's head? Don't it just
be talking? But if you don't know no better, you
don't know no better.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
His wife, his new wife, is a shot at Kim.
I think that he still thinks about that. I think
that he wants Kim to know that that thing got
done for you. I can do for anybody that skims
thing or whatever that is. I can do that for anybody.
Because I think that Kanye West feels like Kim Kardashian
feels like that most of her fame, fortune and notoriety
(05:37):
comes from being a Kardashian, not from being a West.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
And Yay is so much of an ego nick that.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
He thinking, man, that shit comes from being with me,
not for Brown over there with them. Don't nobody else
got it like you got it. You only got it
like it because I gave it to you like that.
You ain't get it like that because they gave I
got it like that and gave it to you like that.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
So now you got it like that. But don't get him.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
I take Kanye West to be an ego maniac, to
be saying, what everything that Kim got going on design
wise and all of her look and a style that
was me? And I'm gonna show Kim that by making
that hug, she is the new Kim.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
I'm gonna have Papa Rossi out on her. And I
just showed y'all I.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Can make her the most googled person on the earth
while wearing.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
Yeasy up there podcast.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
People who do not know last weekend was the Grammys,
A lot of people say that heck, they got it
right for once in a very long time, a lot
of people enjoyed it, although ratings were down I believe
seven percent from last year. So the Grammys did a
good job of trying to integrate people from the culture,
(06:50):
but it didn't seem to translate into viewers for whatever reason.
But if you ask me for the clips, I saw,
it was a the good Grammys. I didn't watch the
entire Grammy Awards ceremony, but I did catch some of
the pre Grammy show and also some of the Grammys
(07:10):
in and out as I was.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
Doing a few different things.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
I want to get right into, you know what the
coach has been discussing, which is being Kendrick Lamar. We
want to start with congratulations to Kendrick Lamar, as he
did a clean sweep and he left the Grammy. He
left the Grammys of twenty twenty five with five awards.
So we started with congratulations to Kendrick. He's on a
(07:36):
generational run. And I think if we don't acknowledge that
we're doing a disservice not only to him but to
his team because they're putting on a clinic. That's what
it means to clean up and play maintenance man after
you catch your body. So we want to be clear
about that, but we also want to address the elephant
in the room and give him some peanuts. We got
(07:56):
a lot to talk about about. Kendrick Lamar. One only
won five Grammys in one night. I want to put
that in context for you guys. Drake has a total
of four Grammys, and that's despite numerous nominations. Also a
few other people Kanye West has twenty two Grammys, Nicki
Minaj has zero, Beyonce has twenty eight grammys, Jay Z
(08:19):
has twenty four Grammys, And that's just to put in context.
You know where Kendra Lamar stands on that tote and pole,
but he got five in one night, which means he
got more than Drake has in his entire career in
one night out of song that is aimed at Drake,
and so man, it's like, it's hard for you to.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
Convince yourself that you're bigger and better.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Than this guy when they're giving him all the awards
that are supposed to indicate and go to the top
dog in the game. And traditionally they've given to the
top dog in the game.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
And so.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
One thing I do want to say about Drake, he
has to be careful how oh he responds to people
who interact with not like us. We're about to look
at a couple of different acceptance speeches from Kendrick Lamar,
because I want to deal with a few things as
it pertains to what I have saw.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
The question came up.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
It has not, like us, been overkilled because it has
won so many awards. It has been pushed in your face,
and it's been worked in a way like a hit single.
It has not been worked in the confines and under
the parameters traditionally that a disc record has worked in.
And so I think if you highlight that some people
who are Kendrick fans, they'll look at you and say
(09:38):
that you're making excuses. And so that's why I believe
the way that Drake reacts to people is very interesting
and important because he got to be careful that he's
not viewed as lashing out at everyone, even the people
that just like the song, because the casual fan can't
distinguish and know the difference between what Drake is attacking
(10:01):
people because they like the song or because they call
him them a pedophile. And we'll get to that in
just a second. Kendrick Lamar is about to win the
first award that we're gonna talk about today, and this
is his acceptance speech in the Canadian Suit Pay Attention.
Speaker 7 (10:21):
As selected by the thirteen thousand voting members of the
Recording Academy.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
The Grammy goes.
Speaker 7 (10:26):
To, even if it's not you, Beyonce, am I to
say this, not like us, Kendrick Lamar.
Speaker 8 (10:33):
Tell us a hundred.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
Rap or hit me like Anny, you better said black woman,
He get the nilak.
Speaker 9 (10:45):
Just show your messes to find some check.
Speaker 4 (10:47):
Gonna wanted to get your handy down. Tell me what
his most real kids last year? I'm what's up with it?
Speaker 1 (11:10):
I want you to take notes to the entire crowd,
how they're standing up, cheering, screaming. A minor got Beyonce
dancing to the record again. This is a slippery slope
because as someone with an ego like Drake, you gotta
distinguish are they dancing because they just like the song
or it because it's about me?
Speaker 3 (11:30):
You know how?
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Everybody laughing like y'all laughing at the joker because y'all
thank y'all at what y'all doing. You see what I'm saying.
A niggas say, hey, man, dude knows big and a
month nigga laughing, Damn, is he fun of us? Do
I look funny for real to y'all?
Speaker 3 (11:45):
Nigga.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
So Drake and his mind with everyone who he thought
he had a relationship with, he now has to distinguish
what is it the beating song they like or is
it because it's about me they like it? But I
want you to understand that all those people that screaming
a minor and they're sending a clip message by playing
(12:06):
the PDFI part of the actual song where they're calling
Drake out his name while there's an ongoing lossuit. Again,
when you are a corporation of his magnitude, you can't
send communication and say your NFL F Drake play it
at the super Bowl. But once you see us green
lighted at the Grammys, you know what they mean for
the super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
Even if he don't play it, that's his decision.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
But you know, if I'm playing it at the Grammys,
I'm letting you know that it's green light on doing
what you do at the super Bowl. But the people
that's they're clapping their hands and dancing and moving around
and shaking the tail feather them is the button pushes
of the music being if them ain't no fans.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
See the casual looking he thinks, oh, everybody just banging
to the song. Boy.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Them the people that green light your budgets, them the
people that put your dick in the dirty. If they
think they don't believe in you no more, they can
stop you're funding. So these are the decision makers, the
higher ups. That's sitting, the crowd that's dancing. That's a
different signal. And on top of that, out of all
parts of the song they can use, what part did
(13:13):
they use? You're trying to strike a chord and it's
probably a minor. They trying to rage baiting. See, he
gotta be caring for their own. Rage baiting See the
new thing is, and the media been doing it for years.
(13:33):
But if you're a black man and you live in
a high class neighborhood, you understand what rage baiting is
because they'll come do something to you or end up
on your property. And because how you respond, they're saying,
oh my god, you are too You're overreacting. I'm overreacting
because of how you approach me about living in a
(13:54):
neighborhood that you think I ain't able to live in.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
So what kind of reaction.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
You wanted me to be very demure. Huh nah, I
ain't gonna be very demure. You dealing with the high ups.
So when I'm telling you, yo, I don't need nobody
in the neighborhood, I don't give a food the neighbor is.
It could be John gott It, it could be Barack Obama.
I don't want to meet the neighbors. So I'm saying,
(14:20):
everybody got a big house, everybody family run. I don't
want to meet nobody. Give me a minute. I'm just
not transitioning. I don't want to meet nobody. I want
to have nobody around. I don't need no pie. When
I first got the crib, them folks they start pulling
up with things. You know what I'm saying, no disrespect
to them. You know what I'm saying, I respect it.
(14:40):
But I'm saying, you know, I'm just that kind of individual.
But these are the button pushes of the music industry.
These ain't the people who just are powerless while they're
enjoying your song. These are the people that all the
rest of your music buddies is pre and that these
folks right here like the song.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
Because boy, when they like the song get changing Life.
Speaker 10 (15:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (15:07):
Nah.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
When these people right here, that's in the Grammars, all
these button pushes, that's on the first level of the Grammars. Beyonce, Taylor, Swift,
Loosen Graens, doctor dra Man. Come on man, do I
come on man? When these people believe in you, it
changing life. So all your rap friends, that's who they
(15:30):
hope and believe in him because he's green light everything.
When you look at Kendrick and we about to get
back into the video, when you look at him, guess
what you notice. He don't give Drake fans nothing to
go out for. He don't give him the self in
the mirror. And then they get to say, oh man,
and he got black fingernail. Apologies, it's just normal to
you whatever you doing, isolated in your little world. But
(15:53):
he gives his He gives Kendrick fans things that they
can pick at.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
Kendrick.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Don't give him nothing edy time he pops about this.
It's nothing to really go off of. There's nothing, no indicators,
no signaling. So he playing chess while you playing checkers.
But he raged baiting you. He must understand that you
emotionally triggered. Because people who've done a lot for people.
They emotions get involved because you can't pay me to
(16:19):
do what I've done for niggas. It ain't aunt of
It ain't a number you can put on what I
done for niggas. They can bring me their whole bank roll,
it still ain't enough. Cause what I done for Nick
was something nobody could do for him but me. And
so sometimes you become emotionally involved, and so you become
affected when things outside of yo, outside of your control,
(16:42):
start affecting how people treat you.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
Damn, y'all gonna go left because of what they said.
I ain't done nothing. Y'all gonna just up.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
And disappearing, jump ship cause what nig old y'all cause
Nick got y'all going left on real niggassible hearsay, y'all
ain't gonna bring it to the table. Y'all ain't gonna
bring you to the high ups. Huh, little boys, they can.
They can tell you which way to go. You like water,
they tell you which way to flow. You better figure
(17:11):
it out and get a backbone. But Kendrick never give
them nothing. He show up to the Grammars in the
Canadian suit. It's important for him not to look too
joyful because he's been anti corporation. He can't just run
a be and take all the wards and look like
a fool and say he just wanted the key to
the front door. He didn't want to burn the house down. Ah,
(17:34):
Kendry just wanted the key to the front door. So
he gotta come up here on some super cool, too
cool for school that's gonna keep him in right, Pay attention.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
Oh what the deal?
Speaker 10 (17:46):
Bi?
Speaker 11 (17:46):
What's up?
Speaker 4 (17:50):
First and foremost all praise to the most High. We
woke up this morning, rest in Paradise, Manti Shan. She
transitioned yesterday, so this is it's special right now. You
know she probably you know, watching it from up there.
So make sure y'all got y'all your smiles on it, right,
you know, make her feel good. Dre, what's up, DoD Dre,
what's up?
Speaker 3 (18:09):
Switch? What's up?
Speaker 12 (18:11):
Uh?
Speaker 10 (18:13):
We're go.
Speaker 4 (18:13):
We're gonna dedicate this one to the city comped in Watts. Yeah, yeah,
Long Beach, Inglewood, Hollywood, out to the Valley, pakuama II,
Sam Bernardino, all that you know, Uh, this is this
is my my my neck oft the woods that has
held me down since a young pup, you know, since
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a I was in the studio scrapping the right the
best raps and all that, you know, in order to
do records like these. So I can't I can't give
enough thanks, you know, to these these places that I
rolled around since high school. You know, most importantly the
people and the families out in the Palisades and out
the Dina. This is a true testament that we're gonna
continue to restore the city. And uh yeah, we're gonna
(18:58):
keep rocking my boy muster the way. Yeah, what's up.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
I ain't got nothing to say, but West said, I
wonder what Kendrick feels like. You know, in my mind,
I'm thinking he thinking I'm gonna do this again, though,
because I think someone in his head he even though
(19:27):
he's accepting all of this is part of the journey,
but I think he put an asterisk beside it, knowing
that Drake is involved in this. It's like, you know,
I'm slaying a giant and I'm the weapon, you know
what I'm saying. But I think in his mind, because
he's done it before, that's the thing.
Speaker 5 (19:49):
You know.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
Hopefully this doesn't backfire on Kendrick and He's just known
as the Drake guy, Drake's nemesis versus his illustrious career,
what he's been able to bring to the actual industry
and to music into people lives because he's been effective
with a lot of different records and a lot of
different genres, a lot of different sounds. But the success
(20:13):
he's gaining right now, I wonder this's just gonna be
the cornerstone, you.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
Know, of his career.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
But in the back of my brain, I think he says,
I'm gonna do this again. That was award for Record
of the Year. Usually that goes to the writers. Usually
that's an award that is designated for the people who
would not usually get that recognition. Song of the Year
(20:42):
is usually for the rapper or for the artist's singer,
otherwise who's performing the actual song. But Kendrick Lamar again
had a clean sweep, so he won Record of the
Year with Not Like Us, and then he turned around
and won. So don't go to get what not Like
Us Piltons.
Speaker 12 (21:02):
The Grammy goes to huh Ken, Drake Lamar.
Speaker 7 (21:11):
They want to trick that not slow.
Speaker 4 (21:32):
Jack or something.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
I do want to know. They did not play the
PDF foul part through every award, so they did not
give overkilled.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
They played different sections of the song, and so legally
in a probably a lawsuit if he's trying to sue
for something like that.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
So let's just say Drake puts in his lawsuit. They
played it at the Grammys.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
They're gonna say, we picked parts of the song and
just play it different sections at different moments for different awards.
The guy was so successful, we could not go around
using that part of it. The guy won five different
awards that night. We couldn't use the same section, guaranteed.
That'll be what they say. Pay attention.
Speaker 4 (22:15):
Mhm, all right, come on, man, Diana rough, come on man, Hey,
I'm Starshuck.
Speaker 8 (22:26):
Hey, I gotta get something. I gotta get something. It's
for Compton, straight up, me and him both from Compton.
You know what I'm saying, think Compton High School, compan
College all that.
Speaker 11 (22:35):
I know.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
My mama's out there, My mom and pop.
Speaker 8 (22:37):
Out there doing from flips on the couch right now
on me, son six years old, go to sleep this
past your bedtime right now.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
You know what I'm saying. You know, I gotta do
it right master.
Speaker 8 (22:50):
My mama and my sister here this day, person a
word showed MI go my girl, Brittany, and uh, somebody
get the broom out.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
Hey, look at Taylor Swift. I want to go back
a little bit to this frame right here and give
a salutther Kendrick Lamar in this moment right here, he
could have been selfish. He could have had a certain
look on his face. He smiled. Dude shot his mother out,
(23:20):
his son. This was a very important moment. Again, he
does not give Drake fans anything to go out for
in that moment when he could have looked like, yo, yo, bro,
we can't be doing it like that though, bro, like
some of y'all suckers do. See some of y'all suckers
get booges, some of y'all suckers. He's sitting there happy
(23:41):
for them. Dudes, get your shine on. We did this together.
Even if that's not what he feeling, that's what he presenting,
and that is that works. It's working because when I
seen it, I said, Man, I really fuck the dude
because of that. I really with how he let his
homeboys get off right there. And he ain't really do
no hate to know you know, he ain't look no
(24:02):
way or try to short cut him or cut him,
cut him off, or cut him down. He embraced him,
He shine with him, and he smiled through the process.
I keep telling y'all bring back that's willing to help
man bring back. Just happy to see others get to
where they at because right now in the culture, boy,
(24:22):
we got there to get in the room, shut the door,
drink out the weal, and spit in the water. Yeah,
they'll drink out of the whale and spitting them with
y'all want nobody else getting nothing from that but my people,
Me and my people. Now let some other people eat.
And you ain't gotta always eat with people for him
to eat, show them how to get a fish in
stead of giving them fish. Damn, you ain't got enough money.
(24:46):
Showing how to get some money. That's what my goal
and journey is. I'm gonna show me how to get
some money, young man. I ain't gonna try to dig.
Show help Nick get some money. Be happy for Nick
Salutor Kendrick for that moment. For sure, somebody get the
broom out.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
Hey part to not like us winning in the video
crip walking. We gonna dedicate that one.
Speaker 4 (25:11):
Here's you gonna j liking walks, but show uh all
the West Coast artists Man early early on g Malone, problem,
bad Luck, Kboy, Daylight, Mike Show. He used to catch
that inspired me to be the MC I am today,
school Boys, Jay Rock app So this is this is
what it is about, man, because at the end of
the day, nothing more powerful than rap music. I don't
(25:32):
care what it is where you are, the culture, it's
gonna always stay here and live forever because a young
artist like my man, I just hope you respect the
art form. That's all. Respect art form get you where
you need to go. All right, salute, I appreciate y'all,
Love y'all.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
Again.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
I like how Kendrick handled that. I like in respect
the art form rap coaches. It is the culture, you know,
It's the heartbeat of the music business, and it also
controls you. And I think that those who try to
undermine that don't respect that and won't deploy the common
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sense needed to understand how one hand washed the other
and both wash the face. If they don't get out
the way willingly, they have to be removed. And it
sounds harsh to a person that is non confrontational, but
in business as America. Sometimes there's confrontations, sometimes there's battles
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in wars. We do everything to try not to go
to war, but any event of war pop off, we
will send them nuke. We will defend ourselves, our people,
our interests. You dig our allies, and so respect the
art form.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
You know.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
I look at Kendrick winning five Grammys. I look at
Lucian Grains given doctor dre a high five, as Kendrick
Lamore being called up as he wins.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
Award after ward, after ward, and.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
I look in the crowd and all the movers and shakers,
the doors of the industry, the smackers of the industry,
the people that green like the business. They can change
your life. All of those people are in unison in concert.
Celebrating the Grammars is usually very demure, usually very laid back,
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but for lack of a better term, that was a party,
if you will, if you ask me right, I grew
up watching wrestling, and there was a time that I
want to think about when I look at Drake. I
look at Drake and Lucien Grains, like Brett Hard and
Vince McMahon. I remember a time when Vince McMahon was
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reached a cross road with Brett Hart, which was one
of his top superstars at the time. Brett Hart at
the belt, so this was Brett hart leverage. I ain't
gonna go out there and stay down for three He
would push back on any storyline that placed him in
position where he would lose the belt, because then he
would lose his leverage because the storyline got to make
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sense for all the people who don't know that wrestling
is a storyline. And so I look at Drake and
I remember that was a match.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
Well, Brett Hart was in there doing his thing right.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
And again for people who do not know, I don't
want to tell you Santa claus Is, but you shouldn't
be watching me if you don't know. Wrestling is fake.
But wrestling is a storyline. It's almost like reality TV.
And so Brett Hart had to kind of endurance the understanding,
like yo, I just would never stay down for the
three count, which ends the match. That was a wrestling
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match where Brett Hart was going up against Sean Michaels.
It was on pay per view, and I believe it
was called an iron Man match. So you look at
Brett and Sean Michaels, and you look at Kendrick and Drake,
but Vince McMahon is loosing Graens. So fast forward sixty
minute match.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
They get down.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
They've told Brett Hart, you're gonna retain the championship belt.
Don't worry with with you. They're being deceptive. Brett Hart
don't know this. So what Drake is saying is going
on is though, yo, while me and Kendrick is in here,
which will be Brett Hard and Sean Michaels is in
here fighting. Guess who creeped down to the ring. This
happened on Brett Hart. Brett Hard, and they're fighting. Vince McMahon.
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Creep down to the ring. Vince McMahon, creep down to
the ring while you in there squabbling with one of
the best in the business. Now, Vince McMahon, creep down
to the ring. You squabbling on one of the best
in the bend its Vince McMahon. Scream, get down to
the ring, dude, put you down.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
Do a little more. Vince McMahon called the match. Hey,
hey say he quit? He quit? He quit? Called the match.
They they cheat.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
They effectively cheated him out of the belt, out of
the storyline. Now Brett Hart ended up spitting invincement. Man
facing Brett Hart is Brett Hart. But I say that
to say I believe Drake to feel like Brett felt
in that moment with the belt, with all the streaming numbers,
with all the accolades they go along with, be in
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the face of the rap world, or just one of
the bigger artists in the world.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
Right, I've lit a bunch of careers.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
Dudes went on tour, fight with me, Nick Careas, burst
off songs with me like I put a lot of
work in, made a lot of money. I got every
accolade that Brett Hart had. But Nick, time for us
to have another champion. The betrayal that Brett Hart felt,
Drake feels Brett Hart was down with the WWE for
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fifteen twenty years, top of the rings, losing the belt
when he really don't want to lose it, going along
with the storyline, not understanding why, breaking his back, getting
strung out on pill and because whatever he was requesting.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
In the business, they decided to xit miounter. So when
you look in the.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
Crowd and you see the celebratory behavior and the panegyric behavior,
if you're asking me, this is them ripping the belt
from from Drake and giving it the Kendrick Lamar, which
is a star in his own right, and if you
ask me, I think he got enough pride. At some
point he started to push back on that a little bit, like, YO,
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get off me with that Drake talk.
Speaker 3 (31:42):
Man, really sick of all that Drake talk. I don't
need I didn't need Drake for this.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
I think he gonna push back on that at some
point because it's becoming abundantly clear that they're trying to
hallmark his career as the Giant Slayer, and I think
he's more talented than that. I think he want to
be known by much more than that. And that's just
if you're asking me now. You also had an announcement
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from Drake and Party next Door that they're said to
release the collaborative album called Some Sexy Songs for You
on Valentine's Day, February fourteenth, two thousand and twenty five.
And so a lot of people say that, yo, man,
Drake shouldn't drop this. Drake shouldn't drop this. If you
ask me, I think Drake is dropping this, trying to
put Universal in the trick bag, and I don't think
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they going in the trick bag. I think they support
this album, so I'm gonna push back a little bit
on what everyone else is saying. A lot of the
music people are saying, Yo, they're not gonna support it.
I think with the ongoing litigation, Drake is trying to
put him in the trick bag because if they don't
pull the moves that they usually pull for this album,
then it's abundantly clear that they're doing it on purpose.
Then you got certain people like academics with these unfounded,
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unsubstantiated claims that he's talking the record labels in there
telling him that they're gonna sabotage Drake.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
Picture that.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
Picture someone at a record labeled with the power to
sabotage Drake telling academics speaking for Drake that they plan
on sabotage and Drake. Picture that thee nigga think I'm
Susie Sassa's head, don't it These niggas yet be talken.
But if you don't know no better, you don't know
no better. You can't really keep running around saying that
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shit Whyle litigation is going on. I wouldn't be surprised
if someone tap academics on the shower Yo provides some
proof of that. Provide some proof of that. I disagree
with him even being told that, but he's trying to
shield his artists, his favorite artist. A lot of the
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shit is counter productive. Again, if you're asking me Drake
and party next door with to release some sexy songs
for you on Valentine's Day places Universal in a very
unique position. If they don't press the buttons, and he
can prove they don't press the buttons that they usually press.
I'm usually on this playlist. I'm usually there. I'm usually
that look they're doing this. That goes back to the
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zero some thing that he was speaking about again, I
think I'm seeing him try to tie it in in
real time. Oh they I'm gonna use the fall off
the proof that y'all trying to make me fall off.
It's what it feels like. I guess we'll keep watching
for that. Also, we'll get to Casinet at the Grammys.
Salute the Casinette.
Speaker 3 (34:26):
Proud of you.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
I know you want to be at the Grammys. I
know you love for your family members to see you elevate,
and we support everything you're doing. But we're gonna have
a conversation about the Grammys and what they tried to
do with Casinett. That's gonna be a conversation we have soon,
maybe not today, maybe not today, but we're gonna have
a conversation about you know, what they were trying to
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do with Casinetta. I think that was nasty that what
they was trying to do. But this project with Drake
and Party next Door is a sacrificial lamb. I dead
Universal not to do the right thing. I dare them
to write while we're in court and in litigation. I
dare them to show the courts that they're not gonna
press the buttons they've been pressing for fifteen years for Drake.
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I dare them the interest is gonna be the period.
You cannot fool me that the interest is gonna be there.
I dare them to play the game right in front
of the court's face. They'll show me they powerful.
Speaker 3 (35:20):
If they're that powerful, I'll bag up.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
But man, I don't believe Universal Music Group is gonna
play in the court face like that. So for all
y'all that's running around saying they gonna sabotage, that's my
pushback on that. It's a sacrificial lange Also, before we
move on from the Grammy topic, because I'm about to
get off of this and we got one more topic
for today, I want to talk about Babyface. Salute to
the legend Babyface. Babyface was in an altercation with the
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Associated Press reporters. While Babyface was responding to a question,
the reporters interrupted him to call out to singer Chapel Room,
who was passing by, demonstrating grace. Babyface stepped aside, allowing
them to proceed with the interview. Did they seem to
be after let's pay attention to the video.
Speaker 5 (36:07):
It's interesting, Chapel, It's interesting, Chapel Chapel.
Speaker 3 (36:15):
You guys want to do that?
Speaker 8 (36:17):
Go do that.
Speaker 9 (36:20):
In this moment from an interview with Kenneth Babyface Edmunds
on the Granny's Red Carpet has gone viral, with many
expressing their outrage at how the music legend was treated.
The music producer and singer Songwriters stopped to do an
interview with the Associated Press. A couple of minutes into
the interview, reporters spotted Chapel romee and shouted at her
to get her attention, despite Babyface being mid sentenced. The
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interruption led to an awkward moment with Babyface deciding to
leave the interview.
Speaker 11 (36:47):
Can you talk about just this new trend that we're
seeing inn R and B where we're seeing more of
a fusion. We're seeing people blend the genre with pop,
blend the genre with hip hop and rock as well.
Speaker 3 (36:59):
Yes, I think though it's interesting.
Speaker 7 (37:03):
Tamel TL you.
Speaker 3 (37:06):
Guys want to do that?
Speaker 9 (37:07):
Go do that?
Speaker 13 (37:11):
Hello.
Speaker 9 (37:15):
Many online are commenting on the viral moment, including some
famous names. Chloe Kardashian reposted the clip on X and
wrote in the caption, this is so disrespectful how Babyface
was treated in this interview. Babyface has had such a
significant impact on the music industry in so many ways.
It's maddening to see a legend not get the respect
and attention they deserve. He is a pioneer and deserves
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so much better than this. With decades of groundbreaking work
as a songwriter, producer, and performer, he's shaped the sound
of multiple generations. I love you, Babyface, and I am
a forever fan and thankful for all that you have
blessed us with. By the way, what a class act
you are. Ps big or small, old or new, you
don't treat people like this, at least not in my eyes.
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There's a way to handle this, and this was wrong
in my opinion. Dion Warwick expressed her disbelief over the moment,
writing on X thirteen time Grammy Award winning chemick Babyface, Edmunds,
am I seeing this correctly. Near the end of their broadcast,
the reporters did acknowledge the moment and apologize.
Speaker 3 (38:17):
Thank you.
Speaker 7 (38:17):
But first I wanted to say that I'm really sorry
about interrupting Babyface. Earlier chapel roone had come up and
there was a lot of commotion, as there is on
these carpets. But I'm a big Babyface fan and as
our be all, and so I just wanted to say
that that I really apologize, but thank you so much
for having me you guys, it's been great.
Speaker 11 (38:36):
Thank you so much, Chris, it's been great having you
on here. And you know one thing, oh, as I
pulled the mic up. As on these carpets, wild things
sometimes happen that are out of our control. We've got,
you know, directors in our ears telling us to wrap
it up. Oftentimes we want to continue those conversations. I
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really still want to hear baby Face answer about women
in R and B progressing you know.
Speaker 10 (39:04):
About it.
Speaker 11 (39:04):
He had beautiful responses to it, looking forward to interviewing
him in the future. He is also again one of
my favorites, created a lot of great music for some
of my favorite artists as well, a true true legend.
I'm it's unfortunate that I was involved a part of that.
Speaker 4 (39:20):
I should have done more to stop it, but it is.
Speaker 11 (39:23):
I'm very happy that he stopped to talk to us
in the first.
Speaker 10 (39:26):
Place, but also, you know, and it was unfortunate, but
also these things happen a lot of times we're not
having live shows, so you know, I don't want to
say it's in freeki, but it does happen sometimes. And
there's so much craziness on the carpet that sometimes, you know,
things happen. But we love Babyface, we love Christa, love
our little trio that we've had today, and we've loved
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talking to you guys.
Speaker 9 (39:49):
The Associated Press also addressed the criticism, writing on next,
we are deeply sorry for cutting our interview with Babycas
short on our YouTube live stream of the GRANDMYWS Red Carpet.
We have apologized to him, to representative and to her
viewers on the live stream. Babyface gave a statement to
People magazine about the incident, saying, the best part of
the night was reconnecting with old friends, meeting new artists,
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and feeling all the.
Speaker 3 (40:11):
Love in the room.
Speaker 9 (40:12):
That's what I'll remember.
Speaker 3 (40:13):
That's what it's really about.
Speaker 9 (40:14):
Music is bigger than anyone moment. Much love to everyone
who won and everyone out here making great music.
Speaker 1 (40:22):
I'm not gonna lie to you Pee. That was disheartened.
I'm not gonna lie to you Pee. You know I
knew the live element is always a thing. And Number one,
this young lady her job. She'll never be back on
the red car. But again, at least not for Associated Press.
They she's fired, you know what I mean, She's definitely
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fired for that. The backglass they got. Even the young
lady beside her recognized that. Yeo, man, and I'm a
big fan of Babyface. I should have did more to
stop it. It was just an abrupt reaction. The girl
just fanned out, and she probably didn't mean no harm,
but it was. Intent does not override result. The road
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to hell is paid with good intentions, you know what
I'm saying, And so the apology was warranted. I don't
feel like Babyface was respected in a way he should
have been respected. I grew up off Babyface, you know
what I'm saying. I remember when I were real, real
little Babyface with one of them ones, you know what
I mean.
Speaker 3 (41:21):
And I heard Joe Budden say.
Speaker 1 (41:24):
That Babyface shouldn't even be stopping for this Associated Press
or speaking to the media, And this is where I
have to push back on that, because while the Associated
Press was wrong for how they handle Babyface, there's a
flip side to that. If we start dealing with these
artists with this braggadocious, pretentious, arrogant, brombastic pieces of shit attitude,
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then we're gonna stop being able to even do business
in a way that helps one another.
Speaker 3 (41:53):
Right.
Speaker 1 (41:53):
I think it's disgusting for an artist to act like
he's too big to come and speak to the people
that cover the music. I just think that's disgusting, and
so I wouldn't parade the opportunity for artists not to
talk to the media while being media. These are things
I never understand. I heard Yati the other day say
streamers are bigger than rappers. There's only two streamers bigger
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than rappers, and that's only a few streamers. I wouldn't
even be as a rapper saying that about streamers. I
get it, Kyim is your boy, big them upsolute to
ky But I'm saying that's something about being the part
of the people, of being a part of the community
that you're downplaying. Right, So if I'm media, I can't
hear people say that Babyface shouldn't even be speaking to media.
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I push back on that you should be speaking to media.
Media has to do a better job at respecting the
boundaries that the traditional media has always put in place,
which is you don't abruptly in an interview like that,
no matter what right, you be professional. And I think
that the live element always affected affects that because they
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could have cut that, you would have never saw that.
And Babyface that just been moving around with a story
in his head about man, I was with that shit man,
and that's what they've done to me, and it's so embarrassing.
You maybe never talk about it in public. You maybe
tell the people you love and a couple of people,
but you maye never come out in public and say, man,
one time I was on the red carpet and some
unknown girl was interviewing me and she just mid conversation,
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hollered at another artist in the middle of me answering, right,
but he cant be cleared. He kept be big doll.
He just bowed out, Oh man, go ahead and do that.
That's cool again. If I'm the Grammys and we're covering
the Grammys, and we're covering the artists, and we're covering
the music, I think you have a responsibility to speak
to us, especially someone like me. If I'm covering the
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culture every single day, it's a spit in my face.
Speaker 3 (43:44):
Not to sit with me.
Speaker 1 (43:46):
It's a spit in my face to go sit with
Apple and not sit with me when I cover this
shit every single day. They helping the business, I get it,
But respect the people that's boots on the ground. It's
every single day covering this shit. I think there's something
to be said, right we holding the customers up around here?
You see Trump, Go sit with the people that's covering
him every day, the people that he know this is
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gonna have a lasting effect on this person and their platform.
But I want to salute the babyface. I think that
the Associated Press is one hundred percent wrong for that.
I'm glad they apologize. We gotta lift babyface up. He's
one of the ones that changed the frequency of R
and B music and serenaded a lot of women. That
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boy did his thug tilller you hear me, Salute the babyface.
Speaker 3 (44:32):
Let's move on.
Speaker 1 (44:33):
Yay, sat down with Justin little Boy. Shout out to
Justice little Boy for their little thing that that dude
called the download. It's like a show that they do.
Speaker 3 (44:42):
Number One.
Speaker 1 (44:42):
Salute to Yate for sitting down with the people he
want to sit down with. That's what I be talking about.
Go sit down with the people that make the conversation
move forward like he done. Sat with this dude four
or five times in the last year because he understands
that I feel comfortable, I can get my shit off.
This one of the ones that understand the language. He
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understands how to decode this shit or he a buffer
for me.
Speaker 3 (45:08):
Right.
Speaker 1 (45:08):
Sometimes people like to hire you and have you around
because your ass kisser and I'm allowed to.
Speaker 3 (45:15):
I'm allowed to always got a nigg puckering up around
and it makes me feel good. I can feed off fat.
Whatever the reason is.
Speaker 1 (45:23):
An sat down with dude four or five times in
the last year or so, I feel as though he respected,
he respect the vibration that the frequency that dude is
putting out that since all, he gotta be a couple
of things I noticed. Of course they shot on some cameras,
but they also shot this shit on cell phones. If
you watching this video that I'm about to show, there's
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a lot of cell phones surrounding this thing. Also, let
me speak about Yay going to the Grammys and his
girlfriend being naked. Number one, his wife didn't show up naked.
She showed up in the Yeasy Nudes or whatever it
is called, a new piece of product that is a
part of his marketing campaign. That's number one. A lot
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of people are recognizing that she's used as a prop.
But I need you guys to understand the reports that
Ye got kicked out of the Grammys. Don Lemmy running
up the Ya after he's spoken bad and said so
many things about him and Ye pushing him off and
not messing with him, and all of these different things
that's happening. Yay is a businessman. This was a big
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commercial for him. And also I think that his wife,
his new wife, is a shot at Kim. I think
that he still thinks about that. I think that he
wants Kim to know that that thing got done for you.
I can do for anybody that Skim's thing or whatever
that is. I can do that for anybody. Because I
think that Kanye West feels like Kim Kardashian feels like
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that most of her famed fortune and notoriety comes from
being a Kardashian, not from being a West. And Yay
is so much of an ego nick that he thinking, man,
that shit come from being with me, not around over
there with them. Don't nobody else got it like you
got it. You only got it like it because I
gave it to you like that. You ain't get it
like that because they gave I got it like that
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and gave it to you like that. So now you
got it like that. But don't get it mistaken. I
take Kanye West to be an ego maniac, to be saying,
what everything that Kim got going on design wise and
all of her look and a style that was me.
And I'm gonna show Kim that by making that her
she is the new Kim. I'm gonna have Papa Rossi
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out on her. And I just showed y'all I can
make her the most googled person on the Earth while
wearing yeasy, she's a commercial, She's a billboard for us.
The reason I'm saying that is not because I'm a missing,
because I'm anything but messing the streets of verify that
the streets have verified me anything but messing. What I'm
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saying is I heard Kanye West saying when he said
some of the most idiotic bullshit about Kamala Harris. When
he said that whatever he tweeted about Kamala Harris, he said,
I don't mess with losers anymore.
Speaker 3 (48:09):
And those are shots aid Kim right.
Speaker 1 (48:12):
These are like, yo, man, come on now, I turn
a loser to a win and winter Chicken dinner.
Speaker 3 (48:16):
You hit me. Yeah. I take from the bus to
sun Trust, you hit me.
Speaker 2 (48:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (48:22):
Nah.
Speaker 3 (48:22):
That's how I'm giving it up.
Speaker 1 (48:23):
But when I heard YA even say that about Kamala,
I like, I tell Charlemagne this all the time.
Speaker 3 (48:30):
Dog.
Speaker 1 (48:31):
It's like, Yo, no matter how far I get in
this game, man, I got some I got a mama
that I love right, And I believe Kanye respectfully losing
his mother, he lose that voice of reason because if
I say something about Kamala Harris, my mama gonna call
me man, and I love my mama. I want my
mama feeling like I'm on here attacking women and I'm
crashing out about no mother woman when he comes to online. Listen,
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when y'all get sent some about me, let it be
me putting some game down and picking some money up.
Don't have me somewhere running around chasing women around, arguing
them up and down.
Speaker 3 (49:05):
Lord help me.
Speaker 1 (49:06):
You hear me, My mama gonna call me like when
I see when I be seeing certain nigga freshing out
on women and being there, I'll be saying, ooh, bro,
I got women in my life, Black women that love me.
See the women that Kanye sleep with ain't black women,
so they may not care about the black woman experience.
If I go out hearing dog or black women, my
black mama gonna call me or the black woman I
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Sleepy's gonna be like, yeah, but people dog in the bab.
Speaker 3 (49:33):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (49:33):
They saying this, you know, and it's gonna be affecting
me because these are people I love and care about
and all repeater Kanye wes mom right.
Speaker 3 (49:41):
I don't say that to be disrespectful.
Speaker 1 (49:43):
I'm saying that Mama is always the foundation of voice
of reason, the pipeline, the perspective. Mama is always the
backbone of a nigga coming. Since when the niggaoceans is
wrecked and I'm being raised, baby, Mama always know best.
And so when I hear saying all listening there on
LNE about women, I'll be saying, oh, bro, how they
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getting away with it?
Speaker 3 (50:06):
How they getting away with it?
Speaker 1 (50:08):
Ain't nobody black, Ain't no old school woman calling them,
Ain't no aunties or nothing calling them.
Speaker 3 (50:15):
Then when I'm thinking I love.
Speaker 1 (50:18):
And adore these black women, that's gonna call me and
put me in line. Yeah, you shouldn't have said it,
but she a woman, and she an older woman, and
she right. Come on, man, don't do me like that.
And I can't do him like that. But Kanye Wish
is running the experiment. You show up to the Grammage
with his wife in the yeasy nude suit and she
the most googled person on earth.
Speaker 3 (50:38):
You didn't know it yesterday.
Speaker 1 (50:42):
Listen, man, this is a chef kiss to Kim kardash
And I can make their meal for anybody you hit me. Yeah,
win and winter chicken dinner you hit me. Yeah, it's
a new one on the block. Papa ROSSI following around
like the rock You hear me? Yeah yeah, no, no, no,
tune up, don't tune out.
Speaker 11 (50:57):
You hit me.
Speaker 1 (50:58):
But Kanye West on this interview talked about a bunch
of different things. I want us to pay attention to.
The first clip. I want to look at watch.
Speaker 3 (51:08):
This, Yeah, tell me so.
Speaker 12 (51:10):
But the hard thing I say, like shout out to
don see he's been in situations where it was so
hard on him because he loves me, and like it's
so difficult for them because this is like a grown man.
You can't tell him. You can't you can't take a
control of his his bank account. You can't control what
I'm saying on Twitter. But a lot of what was
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sending me into the episodes, and it's hard my dad.
A bunch of people said, you know, you can't leave Adidas.
Why would you leave all that money? The constant feeling
of not being in control spun me out of control.
Speaker 3 (51:47):
You up against the fashion.
Speaker 13 (51:48):
World, steal people trying to come up and say, oh,
you don't control none of you. Let me tell you
all of you fashion honey, y'all. I'll see none of
y'all shit on the street. I'll see y'all not not
even niggas could after the dead. It's easy over everything, as.
Speaker 3 (52:13):
Far as all these raptors go Dilon dial.
Speaker 12 (52:18):
That's top five, top one hundred, top one thousand, top million.
Speaker 3 (52:23):
Nobody did I told you thirty six go I got
another thirty six goats to go. Nobody y'all could play around.
Don't step over the line though. Everybody. Anybody is up
for everybody, and.
Speaker 12 (52:34):
That's I'm I'm I got big officive for I got
people to save.
Speaker 3 (52:38):
I ain't even on a rap so I already beat
the rapt shit.
Speaker 12 (52:40):
I ain't beat the money ship, already beat the batters ship,
already beat the drip.
Speaker 3 (52:47):
So I'm naven competition. I'm naming a competition with Lucian.
We competition with the.
Speaker 12 (52:51):
French bank that on eighty five percent of Africa. How
about that, while we fighting amongst each other, we in
competition with Spotify.
Speaker 3 (52:59):
Get nigg five man, sat work it out amongst yourselves.
Y'all ain't got shit on me. Y'all ran my name
through the mud.
Speaker 12 (53:06):
Y'all took all that position you get in the other position.
Coach ain't nobody king over me any summer. Every summer,
that's no king. I'm the king because I'm the only
one against shall I'm the only one that's gonna go
against you.
Speaker 3 (53:19):
That's why, that's why.
Speaker 12 (53:23):
Easier.
Speaker 3 (53:24):
Let me say whatever you want to say about Yay.
Speaker 1 (53:27):
One of the things that I sit back and I
watch and I say, you know, I can tell why
you operated at a high level. Number One, the environment.
I've always kind of envied the way that Yay is
able to create these environments because I know you can
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thrive in them environments. A picture of me with seven
people profound in their own right, respected in their own
right that I know is respected and I respect, but
they allow me to get my shit off and beat
my chest every goddamn day. I wake up and I'm
the greatest, and these ideas is right. That environment is
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gonna it's gonna it's gonna birth ideas, it's gonna birth technique,
it's gonna birth innovation. And so I try to if
I was ever around ya, that's what I'm always I
would want to learn that from ya. Get around ya,
just to yo, man, how did we create these environments?
Speaker 3 (54:28):
Man?
Speaker 1 (54:31):
Imagine me with four or five niggas around me that
I really respect. They mind and this shit that done done.
They own thing, and we all together and I'm able
to just every day crank out ideas and we build
on them, and we bring him in the scene and
bring them in for the drums and bring them in.
And it don't take from me, No, none of this
take from me. It just build me up more and more.
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And that's the environment you gotta create. And I've always
envied that about ya. When I say I envied that
about Yay, all that means is I celebrated high. Then
I can understand it, like I celebrated in a way
that I can't understand how he put it even get
to put it together, which you can only learn that
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from a jiu jitsu mind smith. You know, it gotta
be a jiu jitsu mind smith that you had to
learn that from. Nigga can't just pick that up game
up like he pick everything else up. There's technique to
choose in these people. There's technique to the influence and
it's a lot going on that people would even let
him get his shit off like that. But I'm telling
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you the environments. I love the environments he creates, and
so it and so it gives you the runway and
holds the space for you to operate at a high level.
And if I ever get around him, I want to
get around him. And that's what I want to see.
How to build the music all their secondary the environment
in forces and drives the creative. I'm smart enough to
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know that. And so when I see him embrace all
these different kind of people, I say, why ain't no
young men doing that? All the brighter minds, all the needs,
all the players that's putting game down. Even get all
the players together, it's a bunch of money being made.
Main it's gonna be a main. Ar me that what
I gotta do because it seemed like I'm the only one.
Speaker 3 (56:18):
Can do it.
Speaker 6 (56:19):
Let's look at some more episode. A lot of people
like medication. Do you take medication?
Speaker 3 (56:25):
Does it work for you?
Speaker 12 (56:26):
What gets you out of I haven't taken the medication
since I found out that it wasn't bipolar, that wasn't
the right diagnosis. That found out it was like autism.
Speaker 3 (56:36):
So how does does it?
Speaker 6 (56:38):
Do you feel it working or do you just take
it just to make your wife happy because she says
you should take it like, do you believe in the medication.
Speaker 12 (56:44):
It's finding stuff that doesn't block the creativity. Obviously, that's
what I bring to the world. You know, it's worth
a ramp up as long as y'all get the creativity.
Like you know, it's like this this thing I always
play on from Dondo. I say, well, you know Wilnce screaming,
and I say, play off the grid.
Speaker 3 (57:03):
Oh, I love that.
Speaker 12 (57:04):
No play off the grid chuckling and nothing and nothing,
no kind of way.
Speaker 3 (57:10):
I play off the grid. That's him, Like Brick Rubers
is sitting there.
Speaker 12 (57:17):
That's how me and Mike Dean really fell out because
I was like screaming, and He's like, man, I'm a
grown ass man, you screaming at me, even though I
didn't know that I was. Really I didn't understand that
that's what I was doing.
Speaker 6 (57:28):
I feel like you're more passionate than anything else. But
people could misunderstand.
Speaker 12 (57:33):
Yeah, when they scream out in front of twenty people,
it's a misunderstanding for sure.
Speaker 6 (57:38):
But I'm glad you and Mike Dean are back. You
and Drake have had a long standing beef and battle
for years now. Drake is at odds with another Gemini,
Kendrick Lamar, who do you think won that rap battle?
Speaker 12 (57:51):
Well, one thing is like with Kendrick, God was like, man,
why you you killed my nemesis?
Speaker 3 (57:59):
Where's the movies?
Speaker 12 (58:00):
If it ain't no Drake for me, It's like or
at least took him down for a little bit, you
know on Superhill films, Like maybe it's like one of
the characters Wolverine or something just goes away for a
couple of films and stuff. I'm like, damn man, It's
like it was really challenging for me to make father
stretch my hands and different things. It may got work,
you know, like top five songs ever created in life.
(58:22):
You know, I'm like, you know, doing the drums bringing
Metro on.
Speaker 3 (58:25):
So Kendrick kill Drake. He's dead. Yeah for now.
Speaker 12 (58:31):
You know you can't you can't ever count out Steph
Curry or so that man might hit two hundred points
and in one you know song or something, you know.
Speaker 11 (58:40):
What it was.
Speaker 12 (58:40):
It's like Kendrick like, look at the tyler the creator
uh pre Staladay he did, like I'm that guy, right
he we have to you know, Drake added something to
the algorithm, uh, to our frequency. He advanced us future advances,
and our Kendrick has now advanced the frequency, so you
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have to you know, It's like when Twister came out,
there was rappers that didn't learn right, but then jay
Z learned. He did is that he could do it.
If you don't really learn as just a professional rapper
as a sport, what Kendrick is doing, you might you
might be wiped You might be you might be wiped out.
Speaker 6 (59:22):
Because Kendrick's on that time and you know, and like that,
Kendrick says, the Big three, it's just big me.
Speaker 11 (59:28):
You know what.
Speaker 12 (59:29):
It's interesting because even future different people, we just let
that pass. And it was interesting because just as men,
just as kings, how will we let that idea pass?
You know, I'm the greatest that ever existed, and other people,
you know, they shouldn't feel that way because I'm here.
But you know, every man, you know, it's going to
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feel that they're the number one in the game. But
there's different techniques, like if you rap against Kendrick.
Speaker 3 (59:59):
You will lose.
Speaker 12 (01:00:00):
This man does this specific you know, on a street fighter,
you get like a chun league, get a certain kick
and no matter what, you can't beat that thing. It's
like if you rap, like if you rap against Kendrick Gamar,
like Joe Budden said, never rap against Kendrick Lamar. If
you rap against Kencrick Lamar is really it's a difficult task,
(01:00:22):
but perhaps it's something you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (01:00:25):
I'm a psycho genius, so you know it could be yeah, yeah,
there you have it. Do not rap against Kendrick Lamar
unless you're a psycho genius. A psycho genius like Yay.
Speaker 1 (01:00:36):
You know Yay doing this thing pop back out, you
know what I mean? With just a little boy, you know,
working his one two seeing will work for him. You know,
he's gonna always push the envelope. He gonna be someone
that that if nothing else, his music is gonna be
a one one thing he know how to do is
make their music. Got a cheat cold with their production.
(01:00:57):
But I really think the cheat cod for Yay it's
his ability to communicate his ideas, because I think that's
a real weakness for Drake, Like if Drake could speak
like Yay is able to speak and able to talk
his audience through what he's doing right now and how
he's feeling right now, that'll be so much better. That'll
change the narrative. You can change the narrative without music.
(01:01:18):
You can do it through communication. You just gotta be
able to talk like yay, talk like us. You gotta
be able to really come over here and really communicate
your ideas, like at a high level too, at a
high clique.
Speaker 3 (01:01:29):
What people say, ooh right, you got to know who
to attach it to, what the like.
Speaker 1 (01:01:33):
It's so many techniques like you can put in place
if you're really trying to communicate your ideas, think about it,
really sit down with some professionals, come up with it,
and really come out and say, you know what, I'm
finna talk my people through what's going on, because without
you speaking, you got weird those creating narratives that can
go either way. The shit is like a crap. Shoot
(01:01:54):
you dig what I'm saying. Any event, something ever happened
with me? One thing we know. As long as God
protects me, my brain and my creative sanity, man, I'll
be able to tell y'all and walk you through how
I'm gonnahoop one of these niggas. How I'm ana whoop
this system and get the money and go this way
and push it up like I'm gonna tell you what's happening,
why it's happening, when it's happening, how it happened. Because
(01:02:17):
I'm able to communicate my ideas and if you're asking me,
that's something that Drake lacks.
Speaker 11 (01:02:22):
Right.
Speaker 1 (01:02:23):
If he's able to do that, it changed the course
of conversation here today as it changes to rap music
and him and Kendrick Lamar. I really appreciate everyone that's
watching right now, hit like his Subscribe. I see y'all
next week. We back every week. We're back every week.
Love y'all.
Speaker 3 (01:02:41):
Salute Bang. It's up there podcast
But for lack of a better term, there was a party,
if you will, if you asked me right. I grew
up watching wrestling, and there was a time that I
want to think about when I look at Drake. I
look at Drake and Lucien Grains, like Brett Hard and
Vince McMahon. I remember a time when Vince McMahon was
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reached a cross road with Brett Hart, which was one
of his top superstars at the time.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
But they couldn't let Brett leave with the title and
then show up on WCWTV the next night.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Who's gonna win him?
Speaker 4 (00:42):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (00:43):
Brett thought the match was going to go one way.
Sean and Vince McMahon come up with a different plan.
Brett doesn't know about the plan. We're being told by
Vince like this, coach your grave, this is high level
lesbian man.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
The whole thing was uncomfortable.
Speaker 6 (01:06):
I was out there.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
You know. They had created a spot where Sean was
gonna put Brett's move, which is a submission hold the
sharpshooter on Bred.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
The betrayal did Brett Hart felt. Drake feels Brett Hart
was down with the w W E.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
F fifteen twenty LA.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
It's definitely one of the most faithing stories in our industry.
De Montreal screw job.
Speaker 5 (01:42):
Just minutes into that match, not one person on planet
Earth thinks the match is going ten. So when all
of a sudden the bell rats, there's complete confusion as.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
To why the match has ended. He said Resmitic, WHI
should happened? It was basically a tip to make sure
that they got the title off of Bread.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
I can see Vincy a drinking bell.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Understand that.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Believe I believe Drake to feel like Brett felt in
that moment with the belt, with all the streaming numbers,
with all the accolades they go along, will be in
the face of the rap world or just one of
the bigger artists in the world. Vincha McMahon, creep down
(02:41):
to the ring while you in there squabbling with one
of the best in the business.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Man, vin mcmon creeped down to the ring, you squabbling
on one of the best in the business.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
But I want you to understand that all those people
that are screaming a minor and they're sending a clip
message by playing the pdfive part of the actual song
where they're calling Drake got his name while there's an
ongoing lawsuit. Again, when you are a corporation of his magnitude,
you can't send communication and say yo, NFL F Drake
(03:14):
played at the super Bowl. But once you see us
green lighted at the Grammys, you know what that mean
for the super Bowl. Kendrick Lamar. We want to start
with congratulations to Kendrick Lamar, as he did a clean
sweep and he left the Grammy. He left the Grammys
in twenty twenty five with five awards, So we started
(03:37):
with congratulations to Kendrick. He's on a generational run. He
show up to the Grammys in the Canadian suit. It's
important for him not to look too joyful because he's
been anti corporation. He can't just run up there and
take all awards and look like a fool and say
how he just wanted the keys to the front door.
(03:58):
He didn't want to burn the house down. Ah, Kendy
just wanted the key to the front door. So he
gotta come up on some.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
Super cool, too cool for school that's gonna keep him
in right, pay attention. Oh what the deal?
Speaker 4 (04:14):
Get this luck.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
First and foremost, So I'm gonna push back a little
bit on what everyone else is saying. A lot of
the music people are saying, Yo, they're not gonna support it.
I think with the ongoing litigation, Drake is trying to
put him in the trick bag because if they don't.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
Pull the moves that they usually pull for this.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Album, then it's abundantly clear that they're doing it on purpose.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
Then you got certain people like academics with.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
These unfounded, unsubstantiated claims that he's talking the record labels
in there telling him that they're gonna sabotage Drake.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Picture that.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Picture someone at a record label with the power to
sabotage Drake telling academics for Drake that they plan on
sabotage and Drake picture that.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
Do you think I'm Susan Sasa's head? Don't it just
be talking? But if you don't know no better, you
don't know no better.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
His wife, his new wife, is a shot at Kim.
I think that he still thinks about that. I think
that he wants Kim to know that that thing got
done for you. I can do for anybody that skims
thing or whatever that is. I can do that for anybody.
Because I think that Kanye West feels like Kim Kardashian
feels like that most of her fame, fortune and notoriety
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comes from being a Kardashian, not from being a West.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
And Yay is so much of an ego nick that.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
He thinking, man, that shit comes from being with me,
not for Brown over there with them. Don't nobody else
got it like you got it. You only got it
like it because I gave it to you like that.
You ain't get it like that because they gave I
got it like that and gave it to you like that.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
So now you got it like that. But don't get him.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
I take Kanye West to be an ego maniac, to
be saying, what everything that Kim got going on design
wise and all of her look and a style that
was me? And I'm gonna show Kim that by making
that hug, she is the new Kim.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
I'm gonna have Papa Rossi out on her. And I
just showed y'all I.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Can make her the most googled person on the earth
while wearing.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
Yeasy up there podcast.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
People who do not know last weekend was the Grammys,
A lot of people say that heck, they got it
right for once in a very long time, a lot
of people enjoyed it, although ratings were down I believe
seven percent from last year. So the Grammys did a
good job of trying to integrate people from the culture,
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but it didn't seem to translate into viewers for whatever reason.
But if you ask me for the clips, I saw,
it was a the good Grammys. I didn't watch the
entire Grammy Awards ceremony, but I did catch some of
the pre Grammy show and also some of the Grammys
(07:10):
in and out as I was.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
Doing a few different things.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
I want to get right into, you know what the
coach has been discussing, which is being Kendrick Lamar. We
want to start with congratulations to Kendrick Lamar, as he
did a clean sweep and he left the Grammy. He
left the Grammys of twenty twenty five with five awards.
So we started with congratulations to Kendrick. He's on a
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generational run. And I think if we don't acknowledge that
we're doing a disservice not only to him but to
his team because they're putting on a clinic. That's what
it means to clean up and play maintenance man after
you catch your body. So we want to be clear
about that, but we also want to address the elephant
in the room and give him some peanuts. We got
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a lot to talk about about. Kendrick Lamar. One only
won five Grammys in one night. I want to put
that in context for you guys. Drake has a total
of four Grammys, and that's despite numerous nominations. Also a
few other people Kanye West has twenty two Grammys, Nicki
Minaj has zero, Beyonce has twenty eight grammys, Jay Z
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has twenty four Grammys, And that's just to put in context.
You know where Kendra Lamar stands on that tote and pole,
but he got five in one night, which means he
got more than Drake has in his entire career in
one night out of song that is aimed at Drake,
and so man, it's like, it's hard for you to.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
Convince yourself that you're bigger and better.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Than this guy when they're giving him all the awards
that are supposed to indicate and go to the top
dog in the game. And traditionally they've given to the
top dog in the game.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
And so.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
One thing I do want to say about Drake, he
has to be careful how oh he responds to people
who interact with not like us. We're about to look
at a couple of different acceptance speeches from Kendrick Lamar,
because I want to deal with a few things as
it pertains to what I have saw.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
The question came up.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
It has not, like us, been overkilled because it has
won so many awards. It has been pushed in your face,
and it's been worked in a way like a hit single.
It has not been worked in the confines and under
the parameters traditionally that a disc record has worked in.
And so I think if you highlight that some people
who are Kendrick fans, they'll look at you and say
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that you're making excuses. And so that's why I believe
the way that Drake reacts to people is very interesting
and important because he got to be careful that he's
not viewed as lashing out at everyone, even the people
that just like the song, because the casual fan can't
distinguish and know the difference between what Drake is attacking
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people because they like the song or because they call
him them a pedophile. And we'll get to that in
just a second. Kendrick Lamar is about to win the
first award that we're gonna talk about today, and this
is his acceptance speech in the Canadian Suit Pay Attention.
Speaker 7 (10:21):
As selected by the thirteen thousand voting members of the
Recording Academy.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
The Grammy goes.
Speaker 7 (10:26):
To, even if it's not you, Beyonce, am I to
say this, not like us, Kendrick Lamar.
Speaker 8 (10:33):
Tell us a hundred.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
Rap or hit me like Anny, you better said black woman,
He get the nilak.
Speaker 9 (10:45):
Just show your messes to find some check.
Speaker 4 (10:47):
Gonna wanted to get your handy down. Tell me what
his most real kids last year? I'm what's up with it?
Speaker 1 (11:10):
I want you to take notes to the entire crowd,
how they're standing up, cheering, screaming. A minor got Beyonce
dancing to the record again. This is a slippery slope
because as someone with an ego like Drake, you gotta
distinguish are they dancing because they just like the song
or it because it's about me?
Speaker 3 (11:30):
You know how?
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Everybody laughing like y'all laughing at the joker because y'all
thank y'all at what y'all doing. You see what I'm saying.
A niggas say, hey, man, dude knows big and a
month nigga laughing, Damn, is he fun of us? Do
I look funny for real to y'all?
Speaker 3 (11:45):
Nigga.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
So Drake and his mind with everyone who he thought
he had a relationship with, he now has to distinguish
what is it the beating song they like or is
it because it's about me they like it? But I
want you to understand that all those people that screaming
a minor and they're sending a clip message by playing
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the PDFI part of the actual song where they're calling
Drake out his name while there's an ongoing lossuit. Again,
when you are a corporation of his magnitude, you can't
send communication and say your NFL F Drake play it
at the super Bowl. But once you see us green
lighted at the Grammys, you know what they mean for
the super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
Even if he don't play it, that's his decision.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
But you know, if I'm playing it at the Grammys,
I'm letting you know that it's green light on doing
what you do at the super Bowl. But the people
that's they're clapping their hands and dancing and moving around
and shaking the tail feather them is the button pushes
of the music being if them ain't no fans.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
See the casual looking he thinks, oh, everybody just banging
to the song. Boy.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Them the people that green light your budgets, them the
people that put your dick in the dirty. If they
think they don't believe in you no more, they can
stop you're funding. So these are the decision makers, the
higher ups. That's sitting, the crowd that's dancing. That's a
different signal. And on top of that, out of all
parts of the song they can use, what part did
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they use? You're trying to strike a chord and it's
probably a minor. They trying to rage baiting. See, he
gotta be caring for their own. Rage baiting See the
new thing is, and the media been doing it for years.
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But if you're a black man and you live in
a high class neighborhood, you understand what rage baiting is
because they'll come do something to you or end up
on your property. And because how you respond, they're saying,
oh my god, you are too You're overreacting. I'm overreacting
because of how you approach me about living in a
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neighborhood that you think I ain't able to live in.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
So what kind of reaction.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
You wanted me to be very demure. Huh nah, I
ain't gonna be very demure. You dealing with the high ups.
So when I'm telling you, yo, I don't need nobody
in the neighborhood, I don't give a food the neighbor is.
It could be John gott It, it could be Barack Obama.
I don't want to meet the neighbors. So I'm saying,
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everybody got a big house, everybody family run. I don't
want to meet nobody. Give me a minute. I'm just
not transitioning. I don't want to meet nobody. I want
to have nobody around. I don't need no pie. When
I first got the crib, them folks they start pulling
up with things. You know what I'm saying, no disrespect
to them. You know what I'm saying, I respect it.
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But I'm saying, you know, I'm just that kind of individual.
But these are the button pushes of the music industry.
These ain't the people who just are powerless while they're
enjoying your song. These are the people that all the
rest of your music buddies is pre and that these
folks right here like the song.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
Because boy, when they like the song get changing Life.
Speaker 10 (15:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (15:07):
Nah.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
When these people right here, that's in the Grammars, all
these button pushes, that's on the first level of the Grammars. Beyonce, Taylor, Swift,
Loosen Graens, doctor dra Man. Come on man, do I
come on man? When these people believe in you, it
changing life. So all your rap friends, that's who they
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hope and believe in him because he's green light everything.
When you look at Kendrick and we about to get
back into the video, when you look at him, guess
what you notice. He don't give Drake fans nothing to
go out for. He don't give him the self in
the mirror. And then they get to say, oh man,
and he got black fingernail. Apologies, it's just normal to
you whatever you doing, isolated in your little world. But
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he gives his He gives Kendrick fans things that they
can pick at.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
Kendrick.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Don't give him nothing edy time he pops about this.
It's nothing to really go off of. There's nothing, no indicators,
no signaling. So he playing chess while you playing checkers.
But he raged baiting you. He must understand that you
emotionally triggered. Because people who've done a lot for people.
They emotions get involved because you can't pay me to
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do what I've done for niggas. It ain't aunt of
It ain't a number you can put on what I
done for niggas. They can bring me their whole bank roll,
it still ain't enough. Cause what I done for Nick
was something nobody could do for him but me. And
so sometimes you become emotionally involved, and so you become
affected when things outside of yo, outside of your control,
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start affecting how people treat you.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
Damn, y'all gonna go left because of what they said.
I ain't done nothing. Y'all gonna just up.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
And disappearing, jump ship cause what nig old y'all cause
Nick got y'all going left on real niggassible hearsay, y'all
ain't gonna bring it to the table. Y'all ain't gonna
bring you to the high ups. Huh, little boys, they can.
They can tell you which way to go. You like water,
they tell you which way to flow. You better figure
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it out and get a backbone. But Kendrick never give
them nothing. He show up to the Grammars in the
Canadian suit. It's important for him not to look too
joyful because he's been anti corporation. He can't just run
a be and take all the wards and look like
a fool and say he just wanted the key to
the front door. He didn't want to burn the house down. Ah,
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Kendry just wanted the key to the front door. So
he gotta come up here on some super cool, too
cool for school that's gonna keep him in right, Pay attention.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
Oh what the deal?
Speaker 10 (17:46):
Bi?
Speaker 11 (17:46):
What's up?
Speaker 4 (17:50):
First and foremost all praise to the most High. We
woke up this morning, rest in Paradise, Manti Shan. She
transitioned yesterday, so this is it's special right now. You
know she probably you know, watching it from up there.
So make sure y'all got y'all your smiles on it, right,
you know, make her feel good. Dre, what's up, DoD Dre,
what's up?
Speaker 3 (18:09):
Switch? What's up?
Speaker 12 (18:11):
Uh?
Speaker 10 (18:13):
We're go.
Speaker 4 (18:13):
We're gonna dedicate this one to the city comped in Watts. Yeah, yeah,
Long Beach, Inglewood, Hollywood, out to the Valley, pakuama II,
Sam Bernardino, all that you know, Uh, this is this
is my my my neck oft the woods that has
held me down since a young pup, you know, since
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a I was in the studio scrapping the right the
best raps and all that, you know, in order to
do records like these. So I can't I can't give
enough thanks, you know, to these these places that I
rolled around since high school. You know, most importantly the
people and the families out in the Palisades and out
the Dina. This is a true testament that we're gonna
continue to restore the city. And uh yeah, we're gonna
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keep rocking my boy muster the way. Yeah, what's up.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
I ain't got nothing to say, but West said, I
wonder what Kendrick feels like. You know, in my mind,
I'm thinking he thinking I'm gonna do this again, though,
because I think someone in his head he even though
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he's accepting all of this is part of the journey,
but I think he put an asterisk beside it, knowing
that Drake is involved in this. It's like, you know,
I'm slaying a giant and I'm the weapon, you know
what I'm saying. But I think in his mind, because
he's done it before, that's the thing.
Speaker 5 (19:49):
You know.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
Hopefully this doesn't backfire on Kendrick and He's just known
as the Drake guy, Drake's nemesis versus his illustrious career,
what he's been able to bring to the actual industry
and to music into people lives because he's been effective
with a lot of different records and a lot of
different genres, a lot of different sounds. But the success
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he's gaining right now, I wonder this's just gonna be
the cornerstone, you.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
Know, of his career.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
But in the back of my brain, I think he says,
I'm gonna do this again. That was award for Record
of the Year. Usually that goes to the writers. Usually
that's an award that is designated for the people who
would not usually get that recognition. Song of the Year
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is usually for the rapper or for the artist's singer,
otherwise who's performing the actual song. But Kendrick Lamar again
had a clean sweep, so he won Record of the
Year with Not Like Us, and then he turned around
and won. So don't go to get what not Like
Us Piltons.
Speaker 12 (21:02):
The Grammy goes to huh Ken, Drake Lamar.
Speaker 7 (21:11):
They want to trick that not slow.
Speaker 4 (21:32):
Jack or something.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
I do want to know. They did not play the
PDF foul part through every award, so they did not
give overkilled.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
They played different sections of the song, and so legally
in a probably a lawsuit if he's trying to sue
for something like that.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
So let's just say Drake puts in his lawsuit. They
played it at the Grammys.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
They're gonna say, we picked parts of the song and
just play it different sections at different moments for different awards.
The guy was so successful, we could not go around
using that part of it. The guy won five different
awards that night. We couldn't use the same section, guaranteed.
That'll be what they say. Pay attention.
Speaker 4 (22:15):
Mhm, all right, come on, man, Diana rough, come on man, Hey,
I'm Starshuck.
Speaker 8 (22:26):
Hey, I gotta get something. I gotta get something. It's
for Compton, straight up, me and him both from Compton.
You know what I'm saying, think Compton High School, compan
College all that.
Speaker 11 (22:35):
I know.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
My mama's out there, My mom and pop.
Speaker 8 (22:37):
Out there doing from flips on the couch right now
on me, son six years old, go to sleep this
past your bedtime right now.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
You know what I'm saying. You know, I gotta do
it right master.
Speaker 8 (22:50):
My mama and my sister here this day, person a
word showed MI go my girl, Brittany, and uh, somebody
get the broom out.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
Hey, look at Taylor Swift. I want to go back
a little bit to this frame right here and give
a salutther Kendrick Lamar in this moment right here, he
could have been selfish. He could have had a certain
look on his face. He smiled. Dude shot his mother out,
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his son. This was a very important moment. Again, he
does not give Drake fans anything to go out for
in that moment when he could have looked like, yo, yo, bro,
we can't be doing it like that though, bro, like
some of y'all suckers do. See some of y'all suckers
get booges, some of y'all suckers. He's sitting there happy
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for them. Dudes, get your shine on. We did this together.
Even if that's not what he feeling, that's what he presenting,
and that is that works. It's working because when I
seen it, I said, Man, I really fuck the dude
because of that. I really with how he let his
homeboys get off right there. And he ain't really do
no hate to know you know, he ain't look no
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way or try to short cut him or cut him,
cut him off, or cut him down. He embraced him,
He shine with him, and he smiled through the process.
I keep telling y'all bring back that's willing to help
man bring back. Just happy to see others get to
where they at because right now in the culture, boy,
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we got there to get in the room, shut the door,
drink out the weal, and spit in the water. Yeah,
they'll drink out of the whale and spitting them with
y'all want nobody else getting nothing from that but my people,
Me and my people. Now let some other people eat.
And you ain't gotta always eat with people for him
to eat, show them how to get a fish in
stead of giving them fish. Damn, you ain't got enough money.
(24:46):
Showing how to get some money. That's what my goal
and journey is. I'm gonna show me how to get
some money, young man. I ain't gonna try to dig.
Show help Nick get some money. Be happy for Nick
Salutor Kendrick for that moment. For sure, somebody get the
broom out.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
Hey part to not like us winning in the video
crip walking. We gonna dedicate that one.
Speaker 4 (25:11):
Here's you gonna j liking walks, but show uh all
the West Coast artists Man early early on g Malone, problem,
bad Luck, Kboy, Daylight, Mike Show. He used to catch
that inspired me to be the MC I am today,
school Boys, Jay Rock app So this is this is
what it is about, man, because at the end of
the day, nothing more powerful than rap music. I don't
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care what it is where you are, the culture, it's
gonna always stay here and live forever because a young
artist like my man, I just hope you respect the
art form. That's all. Respect art form get you where
you need to go. All right, salute, I appreciate y'all,
Love y'all.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
Again.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
I like how Kendrick handled that. I like in respect
the art form rap coaches. It is the culture, you know,
It's the heartbeat of the music business, and it also
controls you. And I think that those who try to
undermine that don't respect that and won't deploy the common
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sense needed to understand how one hand washed the other
and both wash the face. If they don't get out
the way willingly, they have to be removed. And it
sounds harsh to a person that is non confrontational, but
in business as America. Sometimes there's confrontations, sometimes there's battles
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in wars. We do everything to try not to go
to war, but any event of war pop off, we
will send them nuke. We will defend ourselves, our people,
our interests. You dig our allies, and so respect the
art form.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
You know.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
I look at Kendrick winning five Grammys. I look at
Lucian Grains given doctor dre a high five, as Kendrick
Lamore being called up as he wins.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
Award after ward, after ward, and.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
I look in the crowd and all the movers and shakers,
the doors of the industry, the smackers of the industry,
the people that green like the business. They can change
your life. All of those people are in unison in concert.
Celebrating the Grammars is usually very demure, usually very laid back,
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but for lack of a better term, that was a party,
if you will, if you ask me right, I grew
up watching wrestling, and there was a time that I
want to think about when I look at Drake. I
look at Drake and Lucien Grains, like Brett Hard and
Vince McMahon. I remember a time when Vince McMahon was
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reached a cross road with Brett Hart, which was one
of his top superstars at the time. Brett Hart at
the belt, so this was Brett hart leverage. I ain't
gonna go out there and stay down for three He
would push back on any storyline that placed him in
position where he would lose the belt, because then he
would lose his leverage because the storyline got to make
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sense for all the people who don't know that wrestling
is a storyline. And so I look at Drake and
I remember that was a match.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
Well, Brett Hart was in there doing his thing right.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
And again for people who do not know, I don't
want to tell you Santa claus Is, but you shouldn't
be watching me if you don't know. Wrestling is fake.
But wrestling is a storyline. It's almost like reality TV.
And so Brett Hart had to kind of endurance the understanding,
like yo, I just would never stay down for the
three count, which ends the match. That was a wrestling
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match where Brett Hart was going up against Sean Michaels.
It was on pay per view, and I believe it
was called an iron Man match. So you look at
Brett and Sean Michaels, and you look at Kendrick and Drake,
but Vince McMahon is loosing Graens. So fast forward sixty
minute match.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
They get down.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
They've told Brett Hart, you're gonna retain the championship belt.
Don't worry with with you. They're being deceptive. Brett Hart
don't know this. So what Drake is saying is going
on is though, yo, while me and Kendrick is in here,
which will be Brett Hard and Sean Michaels is in
here fighting. Guess who creeped down to the ring. This
happened on Brett Hart. Brett Hard, and they're fighting. Vince McMahon.
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Creep down to the ring. Vince McMahon, creep down to
the ring while you in there squabbling with one of
the best in the business. Now, Vince McMahon, creep down
to the ring. You squabbling on one of the best
in the bend its Vince McMahon. Scream, get down to
the ring, dude, put you down.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
Do a little more. Vince McMahon called the match. Hey,
hey say he quit? He quit? He quit? Called the match.
They they cheat.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
They effectively cheated him out of the belt, out of
the storyline. Now Brett Hart ended up spitting invincement. Man
facing Brett Hart is Brett Hart. But I say that
to say I believe Drake to feel like Brett felt
in that moment with the belt, with all the streaming numbers,
with all the accolades they go along with, be in
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the face of the rap world, or just one of
the bigger artists in the world.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
Right, I've lit a bunch of careers.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
Dudes went on tour, fight with me, Nick Careas, burst
off songs with me like I put a lot of
work in, made a lot of money. I got every
accolade that Brett Hart had. But Nick, time for us
to have another champion. The betrayal that Brett Hart felt,
Drake feels Brett Hart was down with the WWE for
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fifteen twenty years, top of the rings, losing the belt
when he really don't want to lose it, going along
with the storyline, not understanding why, breaking his back, getting
strung out on pill and because whatever he was requesting.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
In the business, they decided to xit miounter. So when
you look in the.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
Crowd and you see the celebratory behavior and the panegyric behavior,
if you're asking me, this is them ripping the belt
from from Drake and giving it the Kendrick Lamar, which
is a star in his own right, and if you
ask me, I think he got enough pride. At some
point he started to push back on that a little bit, like, YO,
(31:40):
get off me with that Drake talk.
Speaker 3 (31:42):
Man, really sick of all that Drake talk. I don't
need I didn't need Drake for this.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
I think he gonna push back on that at some
point because it's becoming abundantly clear that they're trying to
hallmark his career as the Giant Slayer, and I think
he's more talented than that. I think he want to
be known by much more than that. And that's just
if you're asking me now. You also had an announcement
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from Drake and Party next Door that they're said to
release the collaborative album called Some Sexy Songs for You
on Valentine's Day, February fourteenth, two thousand and twenty five.
And so a lot of people say that, yo, man,
Drake shouldn't drop this. Drake shouldn't drop this. If you
ask me, I think Drake is dropping this, trying to
put Universal in the trick bag, and I don't think
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they going in the trick bag. I think they support
this album, so I'm gonna push back a little bit
on what everyone else is saying. A lot of the
music people are saying, Yo, they're not gonna support it.
I think with the ongoing litigation, Drake is trying to
put him in the trick bag because if they don't
pull the moves that they usually pull for this album,
then it's abundantly clear that they're doing it on purpose.
Then you got certain people like academics with these unfounded,
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unsubstantiated claims that he's talking the record labels in there
telling him that they're gonna sabotage Drake.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
Picture that.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
Picture someone at a record labeled with the power to
sabotage Drake telling academics speaking for Drake that they plan
on sabotage and Drake. Picture that thee nigga think I'm
Susie Sassa's head, don't it These niggas yet be talken.
But if you don't know no better, you don't know
no better. You can't really keep running around saying that
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shit Whyle litigation is going on. I wouldn't be surprised
if someone tap academics on the shower Yo provides some
proof of that. Provide some proof of that. I disagree
with him even being told that, but he's trying to
shield his artists, his favorite artist. A lot of the
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shit is counter productive. Again, if you're asking me Drake
and party next door with to release some sexy songs
for you on Valentine's Day places Universal in a very
unique position. If they don't press the buttons, and he
can prove they don't press the buttons that they usually press.
I'm usually on this playlist. I'm usually there. I'm usually
that look they're doing this. That goes back to the
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zero some thing that he was speaking about again, I
think I'm seeing him try to tie it in in
real time. Oh they I'm gonna use the fall off
the proof that y'all trying to make me fall off.
It's what it feels like. I guess we'll keep watching
for that. Also, we'll get to Casinet at the Grammys.
Salute the Casinette.
Speaker 3 (34:26):
Proud of you.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
I know you want to be at the Grammys. I
know you love for your family members to see you elevate,
and we support everything you're doing. But we're gonna have
a conversation about the Grammys and what they tried to
do with Casinett. That's gonna be a conversation we have soon,
maybe not today, maybe not today, but we're gonna have
a conversation about you know, what they were trying to
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do with Casinetta. I think that was nasty that what
they was trying to do. But this project with Drake
and Party next Door is a sacrificial lamb. I dead
Universal not to do the right thing. I dare them
to write while we're in court and in litigation. I
dare them to show the courts that they're not gonna
press the buttons they've been pressing for fifteen years for Drake.
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I dare them the interest is gonna be the period.
You cannot fool me that the interest is gonna be there.
I dare them to play the game right in front
of the court's face. They'll show me they powerful.
Speaker 3 (35:20):
If they're that powerful, I'll bag up.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
But man, I don't believe Universal Music Group is gonna
play in the court face like that. So for all
y'all that's running around saying they gonna sabotage, that's my
pushback on that. It's a sacrificial lange Also, before we
move on from the Grammy topic, because I'm about to
get off of this and we got one more topic
for today, I want to talk about Babyface. Salute to
the legend Babyface. Babyface was in an altercation with the
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Associated Press reporters. While Babyface was responding to a question,
the reporters interrupted him to call out to singer Chapel Room,
who was passing by, demonstrating grace. Babyface stepped aside, allowing
them to proceed with the interview. Did they seem to
be after let's pay attention to the video.
Speaker 5 (36:07):
It's interesting, Chapel, It's interesting, Chapel Chapel.
Speaker 3 (36:15):
You guys want to do that?
Speaker 8 (36:17):
Go do that.
Speaker 9 (36:20):
In this moment from an interview with Kenneth Babyface Edmunds
on the Granny's Red Carpet has gone viral, with many
expressing their outrage at how the music legend was treated.
The music producer and singer Songwriters stopped to do an
interview with the Associated Press. A couple of minutes into
the interview, reporters spotted Chapel romee and shouted at her
to get her attention, despite Babyface being mid sentenced. The
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interruption led to an awkward moment with Babyface deciding to
leave the interview.
Speaker 11 (36:47):
Can you talk about just this new trend that we're
seeing inn R and B where we're seeing more of
a fusion. We're seeing people blend the genre with pop,
blend the genre with hip hop and rock as well.
Speaker 3 (36:59):
Yes, I think though it's interesting.
Speaker 7 (37:03):
Tamel TL you.
Speaker 3 (37:06):
Guys want to do that?
Speaker 9 (37:07):
Go do that?
Speaker 13 (37:11):
Hello.
Speaker 9 (37:15):
Many online are commenting on the viral moment, including some
famous names. Chloe Kardashian reposted the clip on X and
wrote in the caption, this is so disrespectful how Babyface
was treated in this interview. Babyface has had such a
significant impact on the music industry in so many ways.
It's maddening to see a legend not get the respect
and attention they deserve. He is a pioneer and deserves
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so much better than this. With decades of groundbreaking work
as a songwriter, producer, and performer, he's shaped the sound
of multiple generations. I love you, Babyface, and I am
a forever fan and thankful for all that you have
blessed us with. By the way, what a class act
you are. Ps big or small, old or new, you
don't treat people like this, at least not in my eyes.
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There's a way to handle this, and this was wrong
in my opinion. Dion Warwick expressed her disbelief over the moment,
writing on X thirteen time Grammy Award winning chemick Babyface, Edmunds,
am I seeing this correctly. Near the end of their broadcast,
the reporters did acknowledge the moment and apologize.
Speaker 3 (38:17):
Thank you.
Speaker 7 (38:17):
But first I wanted to say that I'm really sorry
about interrupting Babyface. Earlier chapel roone had come up and
there was a lot of commotion, as there is on
these carpets. But I'm a big Babyface fan and as
our be all, and so I just wanted to say
that that I really apologize, but thank you so much
for having me you guys, it's been great.
Speaker 11 (38:36):
Thank you so much, Chris, it's been great having you
on here. And you know one thing, oh, as I
pulled the mic up. As on these carpets, wild things
sometimes happen that are out of our control. We've got,
you know, directors in our ears telling us to wrap
it up. Oftentimes we want to continue those conversations. I
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really still want to hear baby Face answer about women
in R and B progressing you know.
Speaker 10 (39:04):
About it.
Speaker 11 (39:04):
He had beautiful responses to it, looking forward to interviewing
him in the future. He is also again one of
my favorites, created a lot of great music for some
of my favorite artists as well, a true true legend.
I'm it's unfortunate that I was involved a part of that.
Speaker 4 (39:20):
I should have done more to stop it, but it is.
Speaker 11 (39:23):
I'm very happy that he stopped to talk to us
in the first.
Speaker 10 (39:26):
Place, but also, you know, and it was unfortunate, but
also these things happen a lot of times we're not
having live shows, so you know, I don't want to
say it's in freeki, but it does happen sometimes. And
there's so much craziness on the carpet that sometimes, you know,
things happen. But we love Babyface, we love Christa, love
our little trio that we've had today, and we've loved
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talking to you guys.
Speaker 9 (39:49):
The Associated Press also addressed the criticism, writing on next,
we are deeply sorry for cutting our interview with Babycas
short on our YouTube live stream of the GRANDMYWS Red Carpet.
We have apologized to him, to representative and to her
viewers on the live stream. Babyface gave a statement to
People magazine about the incident, saying, the best part of
the night was reconnecting with old friends, meeting new artists,
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and feeling all the.
Speaker 3 (40:11):
Love in the room.
Speaker 9 (40:12):
That's what I'll remember.
Speaker 3 (40:13):
That's what it's really about.
Speaker 9 (40:14):
Music is bigger than anyone moment. Much love to everyone
who won and everyone out here making great music.
Speaker 1 (40:22):
I'm not gonna lie to you Pee. That was disheartened.
I'm not gonna lie to you Pee. You know I
knew the live element is always a thing. And Number one,
this young lady her job. She'll never be back on
the red car. But again, at least not for Associated Press.
They she's fired, you know what I mean, She's definitely
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fired for that. The backglass they got. Even the young
lady beside her recognized that. Yeo, man, and I'm a
big fan of Babyface. I should have did more to
stop it. It was just an abrupt reaction. The girl
just fanned out, and she probably didn't mean no harm,
but it was. Intent does not override result. The road
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to hell is paid with good intentions, you know what
I'm saying, And so the apology was warranted. I don't
feel like Babyface was respected in a way he should
have been respected. I grew up off Babyface, you know
what I'm saying. I remember when I were real, real
little Babyface with one of them ones, you know what
I mean.
Speaker 3 (41:21):
And I heard Joe Budden say.
Speaker 1 (41:24):
That Babyface shouldn't even be stopping for this Associated Press
or speaking to the media, And this is where I
have to push back on that, because while the Associated
Press was wrong for how they handle Babyface, there's a
flip side to that. If we start dealing with these
artists with this braggadocious, pretentious, arrogant, brombastic pieces of shit attitude,
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then we're gonna stop being able to even do business
in a way that helps one another.
Speaker 3 (41:53):
Right.
Speaker 1 (41:53):
I think it's disgusting for an artist to act like
he's too big to come and speak to the people
that cover the music. I just think that's disgusting, and
so I wouldn't parade the opportunity for artists not to
talk to the media while being media. These are things
I never understand. I heard Yati the other day say
streamers are bigger than rappers. There's only two streamers bigger
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than rappers, and that's only a few streamers. I wouldn't
even be as a rapper saying that about streamers. I
get it, Kyim is your boy, big them upsolute to
ky But I'm saying that's something about being the part
of the people, of being a part of the community
that you're downplaying. Right, So if I'm media, I can't
hear people say that Babyface shouldn't even be speaking to media.
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I push back on that you should be speaking to media.
Media has to do a better job at respecting the
boundaries that the traditional media has always put in place,
which is you don't abruptly in an interview like that,
no matter what right, you be professional. And I think
that the live element always affected affects that because they
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could have cut that, you would have never saw that.
And Babyface that just been moving around with a story
in his head about man, I was with that shit man,
and that's what they've done to me, and it's so embarrassing.
You maybe never talk about it in public. You maybe
tell the people you love and a couple of people,
but you maye never come out in public and say, man,
one time I was on the red carpet and some
unknown girl was interviewing me and she just mid conversation,
(43:19):
hollered at another artist in the middle of me answering, right,
but he cant be cleared. He kept be big doll.
He just bowed out, Oh man, go ahead and do that.
That's cool again. If I'm the Grammys and we're covering
the Grammys, and we're covering the artists, and we're covering
the music, I think you have a responsibility to speak
to us, especially someone like me. If I'm covering the
(43:42):
culture every single day, it's a spit in my face.
Speaker 3 (43:44):
Not to sit with me.
Speaker 1 (43:46):
It's a spit in my face to go sit with
Apple and not sit with me when I cover this
shit every single day. They helping the business, I get it,
But respect the people that's boots on the ground. It's
every single day covering this shit. I think there's something
to be said, right we holding the customers up around here?
You see Trump, Go sit with the people that's covering
him every day, the people that he know this is
(44:08):
gonna have a lasting effect on this person and their platform.
But I want to salute the babyface. I think that
the Associated Press is one hundred percent wrong for that.
I'm glad they apologize. We gotta lift babyface up. He's
one of the ones that changed the frequency of R
and B music and serenaded a lot of women. That
(44:29):
boy did his thug tilller you hear me, Salute the babyface.
Speaker 3 (44:32):
Let's move on.
Speaker 1 (44:33):
Yay, sat down with Justin little Boy. Shout out to
Justice little Boy for their little thing that that dude
called the download. It's like a show that they do.
Speaker 3 (44:42):
Number One.
Speaker 1 (44:42):
Salute to Yate for sitting down with the people he
want to sit down with. That's what I be talking about.
Go sit down with the people that make the conversation
move forward like he done. Sat with this dude four
or five times in the last year because he understands
that I feel comfortable, I can get my shit off.
This one of the ones that understand the language. He
(45:02):
understands how to decode this shit or he a buffer
for me.
Speaker 3 (45:08):
Right.
Speaker 1 (45:08):
Sometimes people like to hire you and have you around
because your ass kisser and I'm allowed to.
Speaker 3 (45:15):
I'm allowed to always got a nigg puckering up around
and it makes me feel good. I can feed off fat.
Whatever the reason is.
Speaker 1 (45:23):
An sat down with dude four or five times in
the last year or so, I feel as though he respected,
he respect the vibration that the frequency that dude is
putting out that since all, he gotta be a couple
of things I noticed. Of course they shot on some cameras,
but they also shot this shit on cell phones. If
you watching this video that I'm about to show, there's
(45:45):
a lot of cell phones surrounding this thing. Also, let
me speak about Yay going to the Grammys and his
girlfriend being naked. Number one, his wife didn't show up naked.
She showed up in the Yeasy Nudes or whatever it
is called, a new piece of product that is a
part of his marketing campaign. That's number one. A lot
(46:06):
of people are recognizing that she's used as a prop.
But I need you guys to understand the reports that
Ye got kicked out of the Grammys. Don Lemmy running
up the Ya after he's spoken bad and said so
many things about him and Ye pushing him off and
not messing with him, and all of these different things
that's happening. Yay is a businessman. This was a big
(46:27):
commercial for him. And also I think that his wife,
his new wife, is a shot at Kim. I think
that he still thinks about that. I think that he
wants Kim to know that that thing got done for you.
I can do for anybody that Skim's thing or whatever
that is. I can do that for anybody. Because I
think that Kanye West feels like Kim Kardashian feels like
(46:50):
that most of her famed fortune and notoriety comes from
being a Kardashian, not from being a West. And Yay
is so much of an ego nick that he thinking, man,
that shit come from being with me, not around over
there with them. Don't nobody else got it like you
got it. You only got it like it because I
gave it to you like that. You ain't get it
like that because they gave I got it like that
(47:12):
and gave it to you like that. So now you
got it like that. But don't get it mistaken. I
take Kanye West to be an ego maniac, to be saying,
what everything that Kim got going on design wise and
all of her look and a style that was me.
And I'm gonna show Kim that by making that her
she is the new Kim. I'm gonna have Papa Rossi
(47:35):
out on her. And I just showed y'all I can
make her the most googled person on the Earth while
wearing yeasy, she's a commercial, She's a billboard for us.
The reason I'm saying that is not because I'm a missing,
because I'm anything but messing the streets of verify that
the streets have verified me anything but messing. What I'm
(47:57):
saying is I heard Kanye West saying when he said
some of the most idiotic bullshit about Kamala Harris. When
he said that whatever he tweeted about Kamala Harris, he said,
I don't mess with losers anymore.
Speaker 3 (48:09):
And those are shots aid Kim right.
Speaker 1 (48:12):
These are like, yo, man, come on now, I turn
a loser to a win and winter Chicken dinner.
Speaker 3 (48:16):
You hit me. Yeah. I take from the bus to
sun Trust, you hit me.
Speaker 2 (48:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (48:22):
Nah.
Speaker 3 (48:22):
That's how I'm giving it up.
Speaker 1 (48:23):
But when I heard YA even say that about Kamala,
I like, I tell Charlemagne this all the time.
Speaker 3 (48:30):
Dog.
Speaker 1 (48:31):
It's like, Yo, no matter how far I get in
this game, man, I got some I got a mama
that I love right, And I believe Kanye respectfully losing
his mother, he lose that voice of reason because if
I say something about Kamala Harris, my mama gonna call
me man, and I love my mama. I want my
mama feeling like I'm on here attacking women and I'm
crashing out about no mother woman when he comes to online. Listen,
(48:55):
when y'all get sent some about me, let it be
me putting some game down and picking some money up.
Don't have me somewhere running around chasing women around, arguing
them up and down.
Speaker 3 (49:05):
Lord help me.
Speaker 1 (49:06):
You hear me, My mama gonna call me like when
I see when I be seeing certain nigga freshing out
on women and being there, I'll be saying, ooh, bro,
I got women in my life, Black women that love me.
See the women that Kanye sleep with ain't black women,
so they may not care about the black woman experience.
If I go out hearing dog or black women, my
black mama gonna call me or the black woman I
(49:27):
Sleepy's gonna be like, yeah, but people dog in the bab.
Speaker 3 (49:33):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (49:33):
They saying this, you know, and it's gonna be affecting
me because these are people I love and care about
and all repeater Kanye wes mom right.
Speaker 3 (49:41):
I don't say that to be disrespectful.
Speaker 1 (49:43):
I'm saying that Mama is always the foundation of voice
of reason, the pipeline, the perspective. Mama is always the
backbone of a nigga coming. Since when the niggaoceans is
wrecked and I'm being raised, baby, Mama always know best.
And so when I hear saying all listening there on
LNE about women, I'll be saying, oh, bro, how they
(50:04):
getting away with it?
Speaker 3 (50:06):
How they getting away with it?
Speaker 1 (50:08):
Ain't nobody black, Ain't no old school woman calling them,
Ain't no aunties or nothing calling them.
Speaker 3 (50:15):
Then when I'm thinking I love.
Speaker 1 (50:18):
And adore these black women, that's gonna call me and
put me in line. Yeah, you shouldn't have said it,
but she a woman, and she an older woman, and
she right. Come on, man, don't do me like that.
And I can't do him like that. But Kanye Wish
is running the experiment. You show up to the Grammage
with his wife in the yeasy nude suit and she
the most googled person on earth.
Speaker 3 (50:38):
You didn't know it yesterday.
Speaker 1 (50:42):
Listen, man, this is a chef kiss to Kim kardash
And I can make their meal for anybody you hit me. Yeah,
win and winter chicken dinner you hit me. Yeah, it's
a new one on the block. Papa ROSSI following around
like the rock You hear me? Yeah yeah, no, no, no,
tune up, don't tune out.
Speaker 11 (50:57):
You hit me.
Speaker 1 (50:58):
But Kanye West on this interview talked about a bunch
of different things. I want us to pay attention to.
The first clip. I want to look at watch.
Speaker 3 (51:08):
This, Yeah, tell me so.
Speaker 12 (51:10):
But the hard thing I say, like shout out to
don see he's been in situations where it was so
hard on him because he loves me, and like it's
so difficult for them because this is like a grown man.
You can't tell him. You can't you can't take a
control of his his bank account. You can't control what
I'm saying on Twitter. But a lot of what was
(51:31):
sending me into the episodes, and it's hard my dad.
A bunch of people said, you know, you can't leave Adidas.
Why would you leave all that money? The constant feeling
of not being in control spun me out of control.
Speaker 3 (51:47):
You up against the fashion.
Speaker 13 (51:48):
World, steal people trying to come up and say, oh,
you don't control none of you. Let me tell you
all of you fashion honey, y'all. I'll see none of
y'all shit on the street. I'll see y'all not not
even niggas could after the dead. It's easy over everything, as.
Speaker 3 (52:13):
Far as all these raptors go Dilon dial.
Speaker 12 (52:18):
That's top five, top one hundred, top one thousand, top million.
Speaker 3 (52:23):
Nobody did I told you thirty six go I got
another thirty six goats to go. Nobody y'all could play around.
Don't step over the line though. Everybody. Anybody is up
for everybody, and.
Speaker 12 (52:34):
That's I'm I'm I got big officive for I got
people to save.
Speaker 3 (52:38):
I ain't even on a rap so I already beat
the rapt shit.
Speaker 12 (52:40):
I ain't beat the money ship, already beat the batters ship,
already beat the drip.
Speaker 3 (52:47):
So I'm naven competition. I'm naming a competition with Lucian.
We competition with the.
Speaker 12 (52:51):
French bank that on eighty five percent of Africa. How
about that, while we fighting amongst each other, we in
competition with Spotify.
Speaker 3 (52:59):
Get nigg five man, sat work it out amongst yourselves.
Y'all ain't got shit on me. Y'all ran my name
through the mud.
Speaker 12 (53:06):
Y'all took all that position you get in the other position.
Coach ain't nobody king over me any summer. Every summer,
that's no king. I'm the king because I'm the only
one against shall I'm the only one that's gonna go
against you.
Speaker 3 (53:19):
That's why, that's why.
Speaker 12 (53:23):
Easier.
Speaker 3 (53:24):
Let me say whatever you want to say about Yay.
Speaker 1 (53:27):
One of the things that I sit back and I
watch and I say, you know, I can tell why
you operated at a high level. Number One, the environment.
I've always kind of envied the way that Yay is
able to create these environments because I know you can
(53:48):
thrive in them environments. A picture of me with seven
people profound in their own right, respected in their own
right that I know is respected and I respect, but
they allow me to get my shit off and beat
my chest every goddamn day. I wake up and I'm
the greatest, and these ideas is right. That environment is
(54:09):
gonna it's gonna it's gonna birth ideas, it's gonna birth technique,
it's gonna birth innovation. And so I try to if
I was ever around ya, that's what I'm always I
would want to learn that from ya. Get around ya,
just to yo, man, how did we create these environments?
Speaker 3 (54:28):
Man?
Speaker 1 (54:31):
Imagine me with four or five niggas around me that
I really respect. They mind and this shit that done done.
They own thing, and we all together and I'm able
to just every day crank out ideas and we build
on them, and we bring him in the scene and
bring them in for the drums and bring them in.
And it don't take from me, No, none of this
take from me. It just build me up more and more.
(54:52):
And that's the environment you gotta create. And I've always
envied that about ya. When I say I envied that
about Yay, all that means is I celebrated high. Then
I can understand it, like I celebrated in a way
that I can't understand how he put it even get
to put it together, which you can only learn that
(55:13):
from a jiu jitsu mind smith. You know, it gotta
be a jiu jitsu mind smith that you had to
learn that from. Nigga can't just pick that up game
up like he pick everything else up. There's technique to
choose in these people. There's technique to the influence and
it's a lot going on that people would even let
him get his shit off like that. But I'm telling
(55:34):
you the environments. I love the environments he creates, and
so it and so it gives you the runway and
holds the space for you to operate at a high level.
And if I ever get around him, I want to
get around him. And that's what I want to see.
How to build the music all their secondary the environment
in forces and drives the creative. I'm smart enough to
(55:57):
know that. And so when I see him embrace all
these different kind of people, I say, why ain't no
young men doing that? All the brighter minds, all the needs,
all the players that's putting game down. Even get all
the players together, it's a bunch of money being made.
Main it's gonna be a main. Ar me that what
I gotta do because it seemed like I'm the only one.
Speaker 3 (56:18):
Can do it.
Speaker 6 (56:19):
Let's look at some more episode. A lot of people
like medication. Do you take medication?
Speaker 3 (56:25):
Does it work for you?
Speaker 12 (56:26):
What gets you out of I haven't taken the medication
since I found out that it wasn't bipolar, that wasn't
the right diagnosis. That found out it was like autism.
Speaker 3 (56:36):
So how does does it?
Speaker 6 (56:38):
Do you feel it working or do you just take
it just to make your wife happy because she says
you should take it like, do you believe in the medication.
Speaker 12 (56:44):
It's finding stuff that doesn't block the creativity. Obviously, that's
what I bring to the world. You know, it's worth
a ramp up as long as y'all get the creativity.
Like you know, it's like this this thing I always
play on from Dondo. I say, well, you know Wilnce screaming,
and I say, play off the grid.
Speaker 3 (57:03):
Oh, I love that.
Speaker 12 (57:04):
No play off the grid chuckling and nothing and nothing,
no kind of way.
Speaker 3 (57:10):
I play off the grid. That's him, Like Brick Rubers
is sitting there.
Speaker 12 (57:17):
That's how me and Mike Dean really fell out because
I was like screaming, and He's like, man, I'm a
grown ass man, you screaming at me, even though I
didn't know that I was. Really I didn't understand that
that's what I was doing.
Speaker 6 (57:28):
I feel like you're more passionate than anything else. But
people could misunderstand.
Speaker 12 (57:33):
Yeah, when they scream out in front of twenty people,
it's a misunderstanding for sure.
Speaker 6 (57:38):
But I'm glad you and Mike Dean are back. You
and Drake have had a long standing beef and battle
for years now. Drake is at odds with another Gemini,
Kendrick Lamar, who do you think won that rap battle?
Speaker 12 (57:51):
Well, one thing is like with Kendrick, God was like, man,
why you you killed my nemesis?
Speaker 3 (57:59):
Where's the movies?
Speaker 12 (58:00):
If it ain't no Drake for me, It's like or
at least took him down for a little bit, you
know on Superhill films, Like maybe it's like one of
the characters Wolverine or something just goes away for a
couple of films and stuff. I'm like, damn man, It's
like it was really challenging for me to make father
stretch my hands and different things. It may got work,
you know, like top five songs ever created in life.
(58:22):
You know, I'm like, you know, doing the drums bringing
Metro on.
Speaker 3 (58:25):
So Kendrick kill Drake. He's dead. Yeah for now.
Speaker 12 (58:31):
You know you can't you can't ever count out Steph
Curry or so that man might hit two hundred points
and in one you know song or something, you know.
Speaker 11 (58:40):
What it was.
Speaker 12 (58:40):
It's like Kendrick like, look at the tyler the creator
uh pre Staladay he did, like I'm that guy, right
he we have to you know, Drake added something to
the algorithm, uh, to our frequency. He advanced us future advances,
and our Kendrick has now advanced the frequency, so you
(59:01):
have to you know, It's like when Twister came out,
there was rappers that didn't learn right, but then jay
Z learned. He did is that he could do it.
If you don't really learn as just a professional rapper
as a sport, what Kendrick is doing, you might you
might be wiped You might be you might be wiped out.
Speaker 6 (59:22):
Because Kendrick's on that time and you know, and like that,
Kendrick says, the Big three, it's just big me.
Speaker 11 (59:28):
You know what.
Speaker 12 (59:29):
It's interesting because even future different people, we just let
that pass. And it was interesting because just as men,
just as kings, how will we let that idea pass?
You know, I'm the greatest that ever existed, and other people,
you know, they shouldn't feel that way because I'm here.
But you know, every man, you know, it's going to
(59:50):
feel that they're the number one in the game. But
there's different techniques, like if you rap against Kendrick.
Speaker 3 (59:59):
You will lose.
Speaker 12 (01:00:00):
This man does this specific you know, on a street fighter,
you get like a chun league, get a certain kick
and no matter what, you can't beat that thing. It's
like if you rap, like if you rap against Kendrick Gamar,
like Joe Budden said, never rap against Kendrick Lamar. If
you rap against Kencrick Lamar is really it's a difficult task,
(01:00:22):
but perhaps it's something you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (01:00:25):
I'm a psycho genius, so you know it could be yeah, yeah,
there you have it. Do not rap against Kendrick Lamar
unless you're a psycho genius. A psycho genius like Yay.
Speaker 1 (01:00:36):
You know Yay doing this thing pop back out, you
know what I mean? With just a little boy, you know,
working his one two seeing will work for him. You know,
he's gonna always push the envelope. He gonna be someone
that that if nothing else, his music is gonna be
a one one thing he know how to do is
make their music. Got a cheat cold with their production.
(01:00:57):
But I really think the cheat cod for Yay it's
his ability to communicate his ideas, because I think that's
a real weakness for Drake, Like if Drake could speak
like Yay is able to speak and able to talk
his audience through what he's doing right now and how
he's feeling right now, that'll be so much better. That'll
change the narrative. You can change the narrative without music.
(01:01:18):
You can do it through communication. You just gotta be
able to talk like yay, talk like us. You gotta
be able to really come over here and really communicate
your ideas, like at a high level too, at a
high clique.
Speaker 3 (01:01:29):
What people say, ooh right, you got to know who
to attach it to, what the like.
Speaker 1 (01:01:33):
It's so many techniques like you can put in place
if you're really trying to communicate your ideas, think about it,
really sit down with some professionals, come up with it,
and really come out and say, you know what, I'm
finna talk my people through what's going on, because without
you speaking, you got weird those creating narratives that can
go either way. The shit is like a crap. Shoot
(01:01:54):
you dig what I'm saying. Any event, something ever happened
with me? One thing we know. As long as God
protects me, my brain and my creative sanity, man, I'll
be able to tell y'all and walk you through how
I'm gonnahoop one of these niggas. How I'm ana whoop
this system and get the money and go this way
and push it up like I'm gonna tell you what's happening,
why it's happening, when it's happening, how it happened. Because
(01:02:17):
I'm able to communicate my ideas and if you're asking me,
that's something that Drake lacks.
Speaker 11 (01:02:22):
Right.
Speaker 1 (01:02:23):
If he's able to do that, it changed the course
of conversation here today as it changes to rap music
and him and Kendrick Lamar. I really appreciate everyone that's
watching right now, hit like his Subscribe. I see y'all
next week. We back every week. We're back every week.
Love y'all.
Speaker 3 (01:02:41):
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