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September 2, 2025 59 mins

Bloody Jay FINALLY Speaks on Interrogation Videos, YFN Lucci, Young Thug, Big Nut & Peewee Longway, Bloody Jay finally breaks his silence on one of the most talked-about eras in Atlanta hip-hop. In this exclusive sit-down with Loon on It’s Up There Podcast, the Atlanta legend opens up about his prison run, interrogation videos, street politics, YFN Lucci, Young Thug, Peewee Longway, and the legacy of Big Nut. From surviving two years in solitary confinement to calling out the snitch culture taking over rap, Bloody Jay shares never-before-heard stories about the streets, his music career, and the pain behind his rise. This is a masterclass in survival, accountability, and Atlanta history. If you’re a fan of Atlanta rap culture, YSL, YFN, or the real street stories behind the music, this episode is a MUST-WATCH. #BloodyJay #YoungThug #YFNLucci #PeeweeLongway #BigNut #AtlantaRap #HipHopPodcast #StreetPolitics #ItsUpTherePodcast Join Our Its Up There Podcast Clip Channel now https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEh6Wk40kcNcMJ4t_jtmluw Discord https://discord.gg/GJKXMWQS For all exclusive interviews & more content not here click here https://www.patreon.com/itsuptherepodcast 0:00 - Introduction & Welcome Home 2:30 - How Long He's Been Home (5 months) 4:15 - How The Game Is Welcoming Him Back 6:45 - Standing on Principles & Being Real 9:20 - Discussion About Dr. Umar & Deion Sanders 12:10 - Getting Called Out by Deion 15:30 - Prison Experience & Isolation (2+ years) 18:45 - Reading Books vs Listening to Audiobooks 22:15 - Getting Stuck on Electronic vs Physical Books 25:40 - Sending Books to His Brother in Prison 28:30 - Prison Isolation Breaking Your Spirit 31:20 - Losing Close Friends & Brothers 34:50 - Music Career & Young Thug Collaboration 38:15 - Black Portland Tape & Dark Night Project41:30 - Getting Arrested During His Run 44:45 - Trafficking & Gang Activity Charges 47:20 - Same Officer Who Sent Him to Feds 50:10 - Probation Violations & Legal Troubles 🚨Unreleased Interviews https://www.patreon.com/itsuptherepodcast 🦺All Merch Options teespring.com/its-up-there-podcast-merch 🎧LISTEN ON SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4Jheeb8FxYVDRo8khyrz36?si=e339dD2JRte2MYX2Uon3BQ 👀 SUBSCRIBE HERE:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCl_GorAVekpEVDlk1Yc8giw 👂 LISTEN ON APPLE PODCASTS: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/its-up-there-podcast/id1317524092?uo=4 👣FOLLOW ITS UP THERE PODCAST HOST : INSTAGRAM | fogfo_looney TIKTOK | https://www.tiktok.com/@fogfo_looney PATREON| https://www.patreon.com/itsuptherepodcast SUBSCRIBE TO Youtube Channel ➡️ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCl_GorAVekpEVDlk1Yc8giw WATCH MORE ➡️ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwNIuOcAtoo&list=PLnwwxLxHiDWayq4HPgNYUtsAGvqe3liOO

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
I want to know your stands on when you're in
the interrogation room, because you know, over the last five
years it's been a lot of like interrogation room. What
it is coming out? What is the interrogation? They got
him out here, working man. You know what I'm saying,
That ship up.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
You know what I'm saying. Some people wagging. Some people
you know, have a no call in it back pocket.
You know they got a little back call in the
back pocket out there the free car. I don't know
about that. You cannot represent yourself. You cannot trick these folk.
You cannot out talk these as you saying that you
have the right to remain silent.

Speaker 1 (00:36):
Yes, sir, because it's a lot just acting like nah,
well now really were running a little trick, get your bucket.
I was sitting I'm running a little yeah, you know,
I'm putting the game down.

Speaker 3 (00:51):
What the for recording? They double back checking? It ain't
no running no game how you way ain't up. That's
what I'm telling you. Now.

Speaker 1 (01:02):
What we saying, responsibility is the highest form of manhood.
You know what I'm saying, It's the highest form of manhood. Responsibility, accountability, the.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
Fast even respected when you take accountability. Please what it
called the cell the responsibility. Yes, they gave me a
three point off my responsibility.

Speaker 3 (01:26):
Exactly. They're gonna throw you right.

Speaker 1 (01:27):
Back down to the parts and ship coming out. They're
throwing you under the bright the thunder door because you
because y'all be the same keeping up all the ship.

Speaker 2 (01:39):
Cap ain't now yeah, cap ain't now right? You gotta yeah, historian,
you know what I'm saying. Drinking They gave me the sun.

Speaker 3 (01:55):
Man you.

Speaker 1 (02:03):
That's the number one thing. And act like everybody act
like they got respect on their name. But when the
ain't nobody looking, they ain't really having respect.

Speaker 3 (02:13):
On their name. I hear you keep mentioning noth Man,
What did not mean to you my brother? When you Yeah,
for sure, when you when you.

Speaker 1 (02:22):
Hear his name come up, like in all of these
trials and in all of the ship like what what
what's your feelings on that?

Speaker 3 (02:30):
Like?

Speaker 1 (02:30):
Because ship? But I see a lot of these dudes.
I fuck with you.

Speaker 2 (02:39):
I pushed.

Speaker 1 (02:46):
Here Yna, stop what you're doing, because the conversation is
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Speaker 3 (03:34):
Now.

Speaker 1 (03:34):
Today we got Bloody Jay straight out of Atlanta, wife
in a name stamped in both the streets and the industry,
and for the first time, he is speaking on things
that I've never heard him speak about, and he's definitely
speaking in a way that I've never heard him speak.
He's talking about his connection with wife and Luci. He's
speaking on Big Nut like he's never spoke on him before,

(03:56):
at least on camera. I haven't seen it. And he's
also talking about a lot of the interrogation room footage
that's been shaking the internet for the last couple of
years and much more, speaking about so many more things
in this episode. This right here is part one the
raw Uncut continuation. Part two is already live on Patreon.

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Speaker 3 (05:22):
Yo yo yo, yo yo yo.

Speaker 1 (05:23):
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Speaker 3 (05:34):
On the market. You know the vise.

Speaker 2 (05:35):
Man.

Speaker 1 (05:35):
I got a legend from Atlanta in the building today. Man,
one of them ones, bloody jay, what's going on?

Speaker 3 (05:41):
Brother? Man?

Speaker 2 (05:42):
What's up my brother?

Speaker 3 (05:43):
Chilling? Man? How you being man? Blessed? Man, blessed? Welcome home, man,
I appreciate that, appreciate that. How long you been home now?
Oh like five five month? Okay?

Speaker 2 (05:56):
About five month?

Speaker 3 (05:57):
Okay? But yeah, man, you've been home five months? Man?
How is the game Welcoming you? Man?

Speaker 2 (06:06):
You know, welcome me with open arm.

Speaker 3 (06:08):
Man.

Speaker 2 (06:08):
You know that's what That's what happened. When you are
when you are stand up. You know what I'm saying. Man,
When you're a real man, tent told you know what
I'm saying, that's what happened. You're a real nig yes. Lord,
So like you know, I don't like to say that.
You know what I'm saying. Like like I said, just
like a man, you feel me? They respect that. So
you know, all the men respect it, you know what
I'm saying. And the real women. You know what I'm saying,

(06:31):
It's just been it's just been a blessing.

Speaker 3 (06:33):
Man.

Speaker 2 (06:33):
You know what I mean. I'm able to always be me,
you know what I'm saying. I walk, I walk around.

Speaker 3 (06:38):
Man.

Speaker 2 (06:39):
I was in the club the other night. I was
by myself. You know what I'm saying. I was just
getting some food high lit. You know what I'm saying.
My man and women like from Atlanta, just and I
thought to myself, like, man, you know, really a blessing
to be able to do this. Yeah, to touch the people,
you know what I'm saying. And that's what I get
my That's how I rate my success. Yes, you know

(07:00):
what I'm saying. The way it it ain't about you
know what I'm saying. It's just how people treat me,
how people respond, you know what I'm saying. How I'm
able to move around the town. You know what I'm saying. Yeah,
and to be loved. You know what I'm saying. I
don't nothing else but just straight love and respect. Yes,
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (07:14):
That's what I embraced, you know what I'm saying, they
embrace you and they having respect, having respect on your name. Yeah,
that's the number one thing. And act like everybody act
like they got respect on they name. But when the
ain't nobody looking, they ain't really having respect on they name.
You know what I'm saying, how you on some paper
or anything and some probation? Okay, how long is that for?

Speaker 3 (07:39):
Arm in a leg?

Speaker 2 (07:41):
They know what they doing.

Speaker 3 (07:42):
That's what I don't like.

Speaker 2 (07:43):
You know what I'm saying. But God, you know, Lord Willard,
you know what I'm saying. They just passed the law.

Speaker 3 (07:48):
You know that. You know this this game too. You
know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (07:51):
For people who don't know, right, you know what I'm saying,
cause that's how we missing, is the information?

Speaker 3 (07:55):
Yes, Lord?

Speaker 2 (07:56):
So uh you know for anybody that don't know they
past a law in Georgia, well, if you stay clip
conduct three years, you're able to get our probation.

Speaker 3 (08:06):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (08:06):
It's dope.

Speaker 3 (08:08):
I ain't know that.

Speaker 1 (08:09):
Do you know the name of the law. You just
know it's ineffective. That's already be past.

Speaker 2 (08:15):
You know what I'm saying. So that's why that's why
I was able to take it with knowing that. You
know what I'm saying, I'm not. I'm through that life
and I'm rapping in them doing our legitimate business.

Speaker 1 (08:26):
Yes, sir, we were just talking about, you know, going
to jail and ship in the middle of any kind
of run. It's already a hard pill to swallow, you
know what I'm saying. But you in particular, man, you
in the game where your respect, your name, your connections.
You in the middle of me just making a hundred

(08:48):
million dollar runs. So we were just talking about how
that's even harder on you in.

Speaker 3 (08:53):
Jail to know.

Speaker 1 (08:55):
Man, damn man, that supposed to be me on them stages,
on them TV, signing them deals.

Speaker 3 (09:01):
How did you deal with that? Man in your with
your time?

Speaker 2 (09:05):
Mm just God, man, and and and and me losing
my my closest brothers. I always looked at it like
I could be dead. Yeah, God saving me. You know
what I'm saying, I'm seeing rapper dye. You know what
I'm saying. So and I know the life I was living.

(09:27):
You know what I'm saying. I know I know I
know these my everyday people who who I lost. You
know what I'm saying This ain't nobody I knew knew
of these my everyday people. You know what I'm saying.
I still go through this now even when I come home,
you know, Like you know what I'm saying, Like you
receive the love from from everywhere else because you know
what I'm saying, it ain't here no more at home

(09:48):
because they not here no more. You know what I'm saying.
My brother's not here no more. My my every day
people not here no more. So that's why sometimes go
out like and like Mitch, I'll pay them for it. Man,
I just gotta feel the love. Yeah, And that's what
it be for me, you know what I'm saying. So
and but that's how I was able to get through it, man,
Like it was a hard time. I wasn't able to
listen to music, you know what I'm saying. I just

(10:10):
had to regroup, and I think that what God wanted
me to do. Though, Like and you know, like I do.
I don't write music, you know what I'm saying, Like,
I try, but I I'm a I'm a guy to
go out the beats, tempo, energy of ide, you know
what I'm saying. So, so like if I write something,
you know, what I'm saying might be poetry, just just
journaling what I'm what, my thoughts here and my goal
for the future, you know what I'm saying, or just

(10:31):
you know what I'm saying, I just write it other
than my kids or or my significant others. You know
what I'm saying, Just get it off. But like it
was hard though, man, you know. And but but one
thing I I didn't let it do turn me side.
You know what I'm saying, that hate to my side.
You know what I'm saying. I just I just knew.
You know what I'm saying. I'm seeing my peers like

(10:52):
my every day. You know what I'm saying. People I
was in being with you know what I'm saying. On
on top, So I say, okay, and I know it
can't fuck with me. Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
I know I'm hard, like I ain't nothing on trying
to figure out. I know I got great music, you
know what I'm saying. So so with that being said,
I just knew I had to get me together, you

(11:12):
know what I'm saying, because because I had to take
accountab for me. You know what I'm saying, I put
myself here for my deseasion, so I had to make
better decisions moving forward, so I'm able to, you know
what I'm saying, receive a blessed.

Speaker 1 (11:23):
Where you do you think you were being greedy? Like
or was the rap money slowing down?

Speaker 2 (11:32):
Mm hmm both yeah, both always because you know, coming
from place where I was coming from. You know what
I'm saying. I grew up hushler. Yeah, you know what
I'm saying the street, so I'm used to fad money,
you know what I'm saying, and uh, you know, and
the rap money it was coming. You know what I'm saying.
I was, I was getting shown. I ain't even have

(11:54):
a song on the radio. I'm getting thirty five on
up or show five thousand show. I'm looking up.

Speaker 1 (11:59):
I'm looking to the homer like yeah, yeah, yeah, putting
it on like I'm treating it money like it lick money.
But but I had to realize that really ain't it
is highest coming.

Speaker 3 (12:17):
But like exact yeah yeah, yeah, you know what I'm saying.
We're on the future money.

Speaker 2 (12:23):
Yeah yeah, but but you know it's just like like
I said, though, like you I at first I did
have one for then one with it. I didn't know
how big I was Like I didn't. I was never
wonder just buy into all the hype. You know what
I'm saying. I'm dealing with the same people I'm dealing
with every day. I'm in the same areas I'm in

(12:44):
every day. So I but when I go on the road,
like to see it, like like like Miam and my
little brother freely free Dred. You know, he always come
to me like, bro, yo, stupid. I don't even know
what you're doing, dude, Like he you don't even see it?
Like what you mean? Like bro, like you're rapping up, nigga,
what I supposed to do?

Speaker 3 (13:04):
You know what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying.
But I get what he was saying. Then like now
I'm like, this is what.

Speaker 2 (13:09):
We're supposed to be doing, right, this were planning to do.
It's just going record. But and how I looked at it,
like I want this, nigg big. I'm looking at myself.
I supposed to be the biggest. You know what I'm saying,
I supposed to be this. You know what I'm saying,
that's just my expectations. Yes, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (13:25):
So and then part of it too is probably like, Yo,
I got more work to do, so I can't really
appreciate this because I.

Speaker 3 (13:32):
Want to get content. That's exactly what.

Speaker 1 (13:34):
Yeah, sometime when a niggas feel like I got a
hundred recks, I can lay down.

Speaker 3 (13:38):
He never get to me, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (13:41):
So you you probably looking at it like that too,
because even with me, like you say, when you always
with the same people, they ain't gonna blow smoke up
no niggass or make a nigga feel like Just like
with me, I'm usually by myself, so I don't be
really understanding my reach, you know what I'm saying. But
nig like the other day, so I post a clip

(14:02):
me and doctor Umar, doctor Umar kind of going there, Dyon.

Speaker 3 (14:05):
I get a phone call from d On mm hmm.
They he kind of sad like like.

Speaker 1 (14:12):
Man, I love you, man, I love what you do.
Like Dion kind of going there. I mean, Umar kind
of going there. I'm sick and this and that.

Speaker 3 (14:20):
I'm like, man, I fuck with the O G prime man.

Speaker 1 (14:24):
That's prime man. With Dion, I'm talking about that.

Speaker 2 (14:29):
A lot of this this is a comfort from people
don't even know. Man, the power of Dion like I'm
a h fanatic. Dion Is is him. You know what
I'm saying. And you know, look bucket at my bid.
You know what?

Speaker 3 (14:42):
Ikay, Yeah, that's you know what I'm saying. Shout out
the boy man.

Speaker 2 (14:45):
Man.

Speaker 1 (14:45):
That shit hurt my feelings though, just to hear him,
just be like loan, Bro. We everybody love you.

Speaker 3 (14:51):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (14:52):
Don't let them people come on your platform and kick
kick my back. And even though I'm but even though
I'm holding him down in the clip though, sure you
know what I'm saying. I'm saying now that ain't nothing
you talking about Umar. This shit ain't hitting no nothing.
That man trying to save his family, his kids, Da
da dah but Umar pushing the pro black ship and
trying to Yeah you did you know what I'm saying, Yeah,

(15:14):
he tripped. He pushing the pro black shit, talking about
he left the HB c U and dah da da.

Speaker 3 (15:18):
I'm saying, Bro, he got a family of the feld.
It's still a raise man.

Speaker 1 (15:24):
So when they called me bro hert my, I'm talking
about heart my and I don't usually get cocaine.

Speaker 3 (15:29):
Nobody pulled my coat tail.

Speaker 1 (15:30):
I don't give a fuck who it is don't call
me by nothing I'm doing because ain't nobody depositing it
into nothing.

Speaker 3 (15:36):
Don't withdraw from this ship? Right?

Speaker 1 (15:38):
But it was Dion, I got so much respect for dude.
I fell back. I said, Dion, broh my bag.

Speaker 3 (15:45):
Bro?

Speaker 2 (15:46):
How that felt though?

Speaker 3 (15:47):
Like you know what I'm saying?

Speaker 2 (15:50):
Yeah? Yeah, that how that made you feel?

Speaker 3 (15:54):
Like?

Speaker 2 (15:54):
Have you ever talked to him before that?

Speaker 1 (15:55):
He we done talked in passing, but he had pack
Man called Okay, you know what I'm saying, So peg
Man on three way don how connected?

Speaker 2 (16:03):
But like just the awallness to be you know what
I'm saying, That's.

Speaker 1 (16:06):
How I just I fucked with him so tough, bro,
I'm talking about it hurt my feelings because I ain't
no nigga throwing salt. And it felt like he felt like,
you know, I'm a player. You know where I come from.
I come from what y'all come from. Don't let him
do me like that, he y'all say, Even though I
ain't letting him do it like that. I felt that

(16:27):
when they started talking about his health, it killed me.
I'm talking about killed me dead. When they start talking
about his health, I couldn't even stand it. Bro, I'm
like Dionne Bro, I got so much love and respect
for you. Bruh, I'm taking that down. I ain't even
fucking with that. I'm taking that down. I fuck with
you the long way, just on some real man the man,

(16:47):
black man shit you did? Yeah, King the King shit man.
And so it's sometimes you don't know your reach, bro,
What made you know?

Speaker 2 (16:57):
What?

Speaker 1 (16:58):
What cities or what environment tells you that all this
shit going on? Like before you went in? What when
did you kind of notice? Like because again, these your
these your guys you were just talking about. You dropped
the tape with Thug for you went in. These is
regular nigga to you. So when a young ni get
a Thug feature or future feature or Loochi feature them

(17:19):
young fitting like Superman, you is keen to King. So
it's a little different. What environment kind of opened your
eyes to that?

Speaker 3 (17:29):
Mmm?

Speaker 1 (17:30):
Like what you mean like like I knew? Yeah, when
you knew what you're going in? Was it a show
or was it motile shows? Or is it a bag
that you got to say? But he didn't gave a
nigga right, yeah?

Speaker 2 (17:42):
Like when it when it first hit me, like like
I'm like, damn, I'm rapping out like this shit going on.
Like I remember one time thives and uh, I was
locked up and locked up on the violation. There was
some like some little quick little sixty days I had
to go do for O bation. You know what I'm saying.
It's been the story of my life. You know what

(18:03):
I'm saying. But it's imparadive. I changed the narrative. Yes,
that's why we're able to talk about it now. But yeah, man,
you know I came home man free my brother woe.
He told me like, hey boy, I don't think you understand. Yeah,
I think I had just dropped on I think it
was blackmar two. I think it was getting in blood.

(18:27):
I think it was getting in blood. And he was like,
I don't think you understand blood. Like you're rapping though,
My god, the fuck up?

Speaker 3 (18:36):
What you mean? You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (18:39):
You're like, oh, bro, you've been locked up. Bro, Like
I'm riding. I'm here you like you you're going did
my first like time out, I'm goin to go to
the marrow. I went to side the cab or something. Man,
this is on it man, man, brother got on her knees.
Man in front of me. Didn't like blood it. Get

(19:05):
what he doing?

Speaker 3 (19:05):
My buddy looking at me laughing, I told Joe laughing, man.

Speaker 1 (19:08):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Like I told you.

Speaker 2 (19:13):
I like, he's like blood. I was like, man, you tripp. Uh,
He's like, he's like, you know, saying, I'm just like
I'm looking at another lady. Come up, she had a
baby with her. He take it to my baby, told.

Speaker 3 (19:30):
Hit me.

Speaker 2 (19:31):
I was like yeah. And then another time after I
was in Crucial, I did a uh No, Crucial.

Speaker 3 (19:37):
That's that was the mecca.

Speaker 2 (19:39):
That that the mecca.

Speaker 3 (19:40):
Like if you haven't anything going on, they got a
staff it.

Speaker 2 (19:44):
They got a staff it. You folks got the word word.
And then Crucial, yeah you got something going on. So
I already had the uh you know, I think I'm
not sure. I think around the time getting the blood,
but I did the uh, I did that honest rem and.

Speaker 3 (20:01):
The car I'm just bloody they did.

Speaker 2 (20:04):
They played the uh, they played the honest no no,
no, no no, that's what it was. They played getting Blood.
Then I think they played the I'm Jay blooded, the
freestyle I did over the underbeat, and I ain't know
they had it. First of all, I ain't know, nobody
had it. I just threw it out there. They with
the planet, they were worded it. Then when the future

(20:28):
song came on, they were still saying, I'm jee blood
on top.

Speaker 1 (20:31):
Of yeah yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah yeah, and
that's in crucial They gotta come with it. Yeah, Pluto,
Yeah for sure. That the Wilson Yeah yeah, he wanted
them super ones. He's standing at the top of this ship.

Speaker 3 (20:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (20:45):
Three thousand yeah yeah yeah. So you fuck with three
K and I just I was just talking to Guapo.
He was saying that three k W wasn't on his
top five.

Speaker 3 (20:56):
I'm like, bro, three.

Speaker 1 (20:57):
K one number one yeah yeah, and his reach that
nigga breaches pathetic.

Speaker 2 (21:03):
Man at the heart of lyrics.

Speaker 1 (21:05):
Yeah, so you fuck with lyrics more than what you
fuck with the vibe or the lyrics.

Speaker 3 (21:10):
If you got to prove if you got it.

Speaker 2 (21:12):
If I'm just getting in my car now you know
the vibe, you know, me coming up and noning what
music was my brother, my older brother. You know what
I'm saying, my big brother Jack. He put me down, like, hey,
then what music is? Yeah? Play that outcare Yeah, you
know what I'm saying, Like, this is what RAPPI are
right here real yellow think of.

Speaker 3 (21:36):
All that, you know what I'm saying. He wanted to
want show if you.

Speaker 2 (21:40):
Don't have that in bending, I don't think you should
be doing music.

Speaker 1 (21:43):
Yeah, that lyrics ship is hey didn't get what I
think because of the South took so long to take
hold and now we got it.

Speaker 3 (21:51):
It's it belonged to the South and now.

Speaker 1 (21:53):
But at first them nig whooping niggas punchlines and metalporth
you had the respects some of that ship, some of
that ship and make you do the ugly face like man,
what do you say?

Speaker 3 (22:04):
Rober jay Z fan.

Speaker 2 (22:05):
Too Yeah, jay Z three thousand, little Wayne that had
like the my lyrics is like right, you.

Speaker 1 (22:12):
Know what I'm I can't be It felt Yeah, it
felt good though with when the niggas when from the
South started being able to hold their own with with jade, oh,
because it felt like for so long they were running
off on niggas, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, then
we started being a hold on You got yes, lord,
I got just that.

Speaker 3 (22:33):
Just show you you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (22:35):
Music speechs man, Yeah, they got that tet it on
me for shure for show what So you went down
this time for what what was the actual charge?

Speaker 2 (22:43):
They hit you with trafficking gang activity?

Speaker 3 (22:47):
But so trafficking did they catch you with something or
they just had a red up what we had a.

Speaker 2 (22:54):
You know yeah, but uh yes, lord, but you know
I had a probation on you know that led to
them coming to you know what I'm saying, My my
my residents, and I had some pounds of pounds of
marijuana though, and uh the Mountain walls they caught they
charged me with trafficking. And then it's so crazy like

(23:18):
it's the same officer that sent me to the FEDS
who came back on this charge. Like you know what
I'm saying, So conspiracy this y'all run.

Speaker 3 (23:28):
You know this is what's going on.

Speaker 2 (23:32):
You know what I'm saying. You on that list, You
on that list list. You know what I'm saying. You
the move right there?

Speaker 3 (23:39):
You got the move.

Speaker 2 (23:40):
Like I said, I'm always hold myself account. Yeah, you
know what I'm saying. If I didn't have that in there,
you know what I'm saying, but permissible use only you
know what I'm saying. I'm trying to explain.

Speaker 3 (23:49):
You're a big boy rapper niggas the Pine for my safety.
I don't like to be going in all these different spots.

Speaker 2 (23:56):
So I I had just at the time, I was
just getting it at once and just you know what.

Speaker 1 (24:00):
I'm saying, right, yeah, for the show, Like I think
we gotta remember that too. Now, this ain't no fake
ship like and I'm gonna see it because I ain't
on no paper or nothing.

Speaker 3 (24:11):
But it's something of the police out here. Man.

Speaker 1 (24:14):
They really be talking to niggas bro. Once they risk
you at a young age. You be about seventeen, they
know you kind of getting busy. Man, I'm gonna get this.

Speaker 3 (24:27):
Yeah, they know that. It's a system. Yeah, a white
man game. Good, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (24:32):
So it's a system.

Speaker 3 (24:34):
Man.

Speaker 2 (24:35):
We go so deep before that though, you know what
I'm saying. They go back main Luther game. All yeah, yeah,
like let's talk about it. Revolutionary suicide, yes, lord, yes, lord.
So this is what they do this, you know what
I'm saying. We got they put a cap on that.

Speaker 3 (24:54):
Yeah. Now, but but did you did you?

Speaker 1 (24:57):
Because he got another trick they run Sometimes you don't
even I know you got the probation violation one get
you know. See that's the game they give me. I knew,
but this is what I didn't know. I didn't know
I was still on this old federal probation. I had
a federal probation. I mean no, not feller, but state probation.

Speaker 2 (25:13):
From what it was like two thousand and ten, was
from like twenty ten, and I had to when it
did FED time. So I'm thinking the FED over rule
of state. Right, they came and got me out of
stay I had. I had heard nothing from them the
whole four years. I did my FED time. When I
get out there, I get it. I know it's I

(25:33):
get a car boo boom, boom. I get a knock
at the door. They told me I was still on
uh state probations.

Speaker 3 (25:39):
Oh so I'm like, oh, how this going? Damn? Did
the lawyer look into that door? Is that legal highs
that I called?

Speaker 2 (25:45):
They said everything that they said.

Speaker 1 (25:47):
See them little poles, I be tombut. They had a
little shit. Look like one of my friends right now,
Jill Man. I hate it because he getting older, but
he was at a at a halfway house transitional home
is what we call it. And yeah, he was at
one of them, but he had been out for a while.
I don't know if you were having trouble finding somewhere

(26:09):
to live. I don't know what the situation was, but
he would live in there. Now he go the thing.
They usually would let you when your people come see
you stick your head out of the door or something.

Speaker 3 (26:18):
They just want to make sure you there, you still
live there.

Speaker 1 (26:21):
I'm here will The way they're pull on off. Now,
what they're doing is they coming in and checking the spot.
So they come in to the to the thing, check
the ship. He got a little gun in there, a
few more things. They send him back.

Speaker 3 (26:34):
So it's them slippers like that to be.

Speaker 1 (26:37):
Counting, you know what I'm saying, Like even for you,
I just that's a that's just a that's a hard
pill to swallow. My you're in the middle of a run,
because you was on a run. Like you say, what
was the name of the tape you dropped with the
UG at that time, black Portland, black Portland. I had
just dropped my.

Speaker 2 (26:54):
Own tape called Dark Knight, you know what I'm saying,
dedicated to my brother Nack. Cause it was you know,
it's just you know it it was a it was
a weird time. You know I was at I was
at you know, I was you know, I was exploding
as a rapper and in the streets, you know, I

(27:16):
was going through it. You know what I'm saying, my
personal life, right, you know what I'm saying. So, and
it was just a weird time and you know, and
I just that's why my musicis come out high and
come out and this shit really my journal, this shit
saved my life, right. You know what I'm saying. I
don't have damn about no probation, parole, none of that,
cause I was standing on this.

Speaker 3 (27:38):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (27:38):
They they not you know what I'm saying. The reason
I say I don't give a damn about it because
I'm doing right right. You know what I'm saying. I
don't have nothing to hide my life, my book, My
my life's an open book at that point. You know
what I'm saying. What you wanna do? You wanna come
meet me at the studio? Wanna go to my son
football practice? Football game? Yeah? Family time And I'm moving
by myself, you know what I'm saying. So with that

(28:00):
being shed, you know what I'm saying, like, like, man,
it just it just time out for the bullshit. And
I know this this run like they say they run personal.
You know what I'm saying, because it ain't no, it
ain't no wars. I'm still this, you know what I'm saying.
So you know what I'm saying, Like and and the
music is on the way, you know what I'm saying,
Like I'm dropping already.

Speaker 1 (28:21):
Like so, yeah, I just were listening to you dropped
two videos since you've been back. Yeah, I want I
just watched them junk. Did I hear you keep mentioning that?

Speaker 3 (28:30):
Man? What did not mean to.

Speaker 2 (28:31):
You or my brother, my everyday brother.

Speaker 3 (28:34):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (28:34):
You know what I'm saying. That was a was a
pieeup in this in this music thing we're doing. You
know what I'm saying that that was a motivator with
me in my transition from the street to music. You
know what I'm saying, Like net was one brought me
up to to meet bird Man. You know what I'm saying.

(28:55):
During the time everybody was around no uh, Thug and
look Thug and Corn RP.

Speaker 3 (29:01):
Corn Corn Yeah, r P Nutt too.

Speaker 2 (29:04):
Yeah you know that. Yeah, you know what I'm saying,
nut life, no life. So you know we're just and
uh you know, Net was the one who introduced literally
fly you know what I'm saying. He was he was
He was starting his own label, big bitch. You know
what I'm saying, Like me and netw with grinding together.
You know what I'm saying, Like, who's going to we was?

(29:27):
We were making them work, you know what I'm saying.
So you Net was a very instrumental man. You know,
part of my life. You know what I'm saying. He
was a a young o g. You know what i'm saying,
shot to put some on my head. You know what
I'm saying. I'm older than that. You know what I'm saying,
Like I put it on her head. You know what
I'm saying. And we respected each other.

Speaker 3 (29:45):
Mind.

Speaker 2 (29:45):
That was a like his mama say, a junker giant man.
You know what I'm saying. Shadow was a real player
man this time man pillar in the city. Yeah, you
know what I'm saying. It hurt. You know what I'm saying.
We'll never get get a get a player like that.
He wondered for a kind. You know what I'm saying.
Get your shirt off your back. You know what I'm saying.
You know that was one of the last things he
said to me before we love it, say, hey man,

(30:06):
we gotta get together. Man, got this pay man, we
got you know, we got we gotta we gotta make
it helpen. You know what I'm saying. Right, so they
do it. You know what I'm saying, Say yeah, man,
when you don't live.

Speaker 1 (30:17):
Yeah, for sure, when you when you hear his name
come up, like in all of these trials and in
all of.

Speaker 3 (30:23):
This ship, like what what what's your feelings on that?

Speaker 2 (30:26):
Like cause sucker ship. Yeah, you know what I'm saying,
Like I ain't hurt. Yeah, like I said that my brother.
This ain't no nigga. It's my everyday brother. Like so
you know, but you know we're gonna leave the streets
in the streets. You know what I'm saying. Industry be
the industry. It's it's two different things, you know what
I'm saying. So, but long live nut man.

Speaker 1 (30:48):
I think, uh damn near ed video. I see a
nut you somewhere around for sure. Like I'm saying, in
videos that's on online and on YouTube and all that
you somewhere around.

Speaker 2 (31:00):
Damn.

Speaker 1 (31:00):
Then everyone in the videos that I have never seen,
it ain't manyhing.

Speaker 2 (31:05):
You know, what man, Yeah, we were dere Yeah, like
a bay man. You about to read your history books. Man,
come this time, we were there. You can't tell us anything. Man.
You know what I'm saying. Yeah, you know saying, yes,
we was there, man, yeah, planet. You know what I'm saying.
Moving around, you know what I'm saying. So I respect

(31:27):
cap ain't now yeah, cap ain't now right. You gotta
read your history book. Yeah, a historian.

Speaker 3 (31:34):
You know what I'm saying that power man.

Speaker 1 (31:36):
Yeah, yes, man, I you know, I see a lot
of you know, I had somebody that was trying to
come through.

Speaker 3 (31:46):
I kind of pushed it away, but I see a
lot of these dudes I with you smooth.

Speaker 2 (31:55):
Yeah, I pushed.

Speaker 1 (31:59):
But indeed, nigga, I want to know your stands on
when you're in the interrogation room, because you know, over
the last five years there's been a lot of like
interrogation rooms. What it is coming out interrogation? What you
mean I went in there long my seat exactly. That's
what I'm saying. So that's what.

Speaker 2 (32:19):
Hey, man, to those that don't know, like I said,
I always say, all we missed the information yourself to
my hye n to my young brothers, my young kings.
It was some of the old fool Oh you just
don't know. Hey man, plead the fifth. Hey man, I
can't speak without my lawyer present. They're gonna cut off

(32:41):
the tape. They're gonna closet and we're gonna go. Yeah,
show me my bed.

Speaker 3 (32:46):
Man.

Speaker 2 (32:46):
You know what I'm saying, we got Hey man, if
you can't afford a lawyer, you telling me you cannot
represent yourself. You cannot trick these folks. You cannot out
talk these You saying that you have the right to
remain silent, Yes, sir, stop snitching.

Speaker 1 (33:03):
Amen, amen, because it's a lot of just acting like no, well, now,
really running a little trick.

Speaker 2 (33:11):
Get your fucking.

Speaker 3 (33:16):
I was sitting. I'm running a little yeah you know,
I'm putting the game down. What the for recording the
double back checking? It ain't no running no game.

Speaker 2 (33:25):
How you hot wa ain't know?

Speaker 3 (33:28):
That's what I'm telling you. Drinking ga.

Speaker 1 (33:37):
Hold man, you like the bloona the cookie all the
ship in one day, put it out talking about come
on man, I'm just eating man.

Speaker 2 (33:55):
What the phone man?

Speaker 3 (33:56):
Man? Right? Man? But that's the thing like and and
so you know, it be so many and it's sepulate.

Speaker 2 (34:03):
It's simpulate. Man, you do the Hey man, I'm gonna
tell you something like that. Man, this o g rule. Man.
People don't like to say rude, dead real nigga head
this cap, that's the fun. This ship, it's rules in
this game. I always I was just on another partcast
and it made a lot of up roll about it.
But get what I'm gonna keep preaching it. Hey man,

(34:25):
if you do the crime, do the time, do something
you can handle. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. You
can't handle the crack time we can't do. First of all,
get your job.

Speaker 1 (34:37):
We we push it, We push it, push it for
the legitimate.

Speaker 3 (34:42):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (34:43):
But stop bringing all the folks down.

Speaker 3 (34:45):
Man, that ship is so prothetic.

Speaker 2 (34:47):
Stop playing with them guns man, they carry a lot
of time. Double is all back. You're busting that gun.
I'm telling y'all your nigga. You know I say, everybody
don't have the game. Hey man, you used that fire.
Hey man, I'll back staring at a ten. Whatever that
ain't probably ain't hit nobody that just don't put it out.

Speaker 3 (35:09):
Yeah, yeah for ship.

Speaker 2 (35:11):
Might you know what I'm saying. Some people wagging some people.
You don't have a call in it back pocket. You know,
they got a little back car in the back pocket
out the free car.

Speaker 3 (35:18):
I don't know about that, but I'm talking about.

Speaker 2 (35:21):
To the one that that's from my cloth. Hey man,
that ship carry time. You carry time. So when if
you're doing it, you know what I'm saying. I hope
it be Bouyt some money and some of your family.
And since you can handle you know what I'm saying,
don't buy no more. You get to man, and.

Speaker 1 (35:37):
They'll do that man, just to try to fit in
and be around. Yeah, man, they know they can't hold
their water.

Speaker 2 (35:45):
Yeah see yeah, man, get out, hey man, you get
out of jail. Free car, they got them. Yeah, they
got him out here working man. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (35:52):
That shit fucked up, Yeah yeah, yeah for sure. And
they hurt the nigga car too, because it beat nigga right.

Speaker 3 (35:58):
Up under you, you black man. They nigg were right
up under me with their bullshit. Man, listen, man calling
them folks got their number much. I want to put
you down on them, I can't.

Speaker 2 (36:11):
Yeah, I don't know about it. Yeah, it wasn't presented
to me, right whenever y'all we coming back there. But
police asking about your police.

Speaker 1 (36:22):
How you know you look at that nigga? How you
know I didn't get that deep in the culimator. I
ain't gonna lie, they asked me one time. I kept saying,
I don't even know what going on.

Speaker 3 (36:32):
They let it go. I told him for I cannot
speak without my lawyer present. Man. Yeah, it was over it.

Speaker 2 (36:38):
They get this motherfucker out of here.

Speaker 1 (36:40):
Right some people they know he ain't got there because
for me, when they busted me, they brought a detective
on the scene of the Why they going through shit
and ship? They try to man, Look, man, man, I
still don't know. First of all, my game was I
don't even know what this is. Listen, so y'all didn't
even got me admitted to this. So why are we
moving past this ship? They trying to move past this

(37:02):
and say, man, but what we can do is, man,
we can't do nothing.

Speaker 3 (37:06):
We don't have no conversation. Were giving out real game
for sure. It's a funk.

Speaker 2 (37:11):
They're gonna be in the comment right now trying to oh, y'all,
I need to talk about the game, y'all talking about
rule that ship on.

Speaker 3 (37:18):
The ply you lame, you lame in the mother.

Speaker 2 (37:21):
I can't respond to all this.

Speaker 3 (37:22):
I we want to.

Speaker 2 (37:23):
I'm gonna say it now, fuck.

Speaker 1 (37:25):
You your show, fuck you, and you know what too,
it's watered down.

Speaker 2 (37:32):
And let me say this too. If the rules don't
apply to Sevillian's exactly so you but now the flip
Savinian quick though. But I'm saying, I'm talking about niggas,
not people and women that's not in the game that
live a square life, right, you know what I'm saying.
They don't count, right, of course they don't. So so
we only spent y'all to understand this type of lifestyle.

(37:55):
These are, this is the water is in this lifestyle.
And the people that were formally in his lifestyle as myself.
You see what I'm saying, because we legit were legit
business man. You know what I'm saying, it's our job
to you pass his game down.

Speaker 3 (38:09):
That's why that's what I am. That's what we're doing.

Speaker 2 (38:11):
So I just want to I just want to say
that for sure, man, man, and I respect and I
understand it because I understand now like it's gonna be
more more more squalls on on the Instagram and YouTube
more than than the people in the field.

Speaker 1 (38:28):
In the field and get what they starting to make
feel like it don't apply like and they ain't nothing
new street. They signing Dunn Man, y'all need want now
what we saying? Responsibility is the highest form of manhood.
You know what I'm saying, it's the highest form of
man whod responsibility? Accountability the fast even respected when you
take it. Accountability. Please what it called cell responsibility?

Speaker 2 (38:53):
Yes, they gave me a three point oh fuck you
my responsibility.

Speaker 3 (38:58):
They respect it? Telling about so what that tell you?
So you know what I mean wanting. I'm knowing.

Speaker 1 (39:06):
I be wondering how they feel when they looking at
a nigga he telling on everybody fuck with. I be
wondering how the police deep down when they get on work.

Speaker 3 (39:15):
I know they.

Speaker 1 (39:15):
Saying, but we got us a fuck niggas on the hook. Boy,
we got us one. This little don't got no more.

Speaker 3 (39:22):
Than the police. Exactly. They're gonna throw you right back
down to the part and ship coming out.

Speaker 1 (39:33):
They're throwing you under the thunder door because you because
y'all be the same keeping.

Speaker 3 (39:39):
Up all the ship show. They knew it show. Dude,
on the street. They knew keep popping up the same boy,
And we came here.

Speaker 1 (39:47):
And did that and gave that niggas you s and
some motherfucking Chinese food and ship know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (39:55):
They getting money? They doing?

Speaker 1 (39:58):
Hey man, this ships put that bro Why I tell
my children? Look, man, I am not already sweatd hard.
So you little nick got the sweat. Do not go
that way. And if you go that way, I'm disowning
you say that because I went that way out of necessity.
You know what I'm saying. I had to go down.
It's the only route. You know what I'm saying. We

(40:19):
didn't know nothing else. I still damn there as I
as I done got to a point where I'm at
now and and know everything I know, I can look
back and say, well it was a few other.

Speaker 3 (40:29):
Routes, but yeah, always coming up.

Speaker 2 (40:32):
It was like man, it felt like man and got
no committed.

Speaker 3 (40:36):
I was a convicted feeling that feel.

Speaker 2 (40:39):
You know what I'm saying. I called it on robbery.
I am you know what I'm saying like this just
need to hear that though, But you know what I'm saying,
Just check the stats man, Everything line up, you know,
what I'm saying. So, but it just it just now
they I see they have changed a lot with the
feelings and stuff like that. But I couldn't get no.
I really was trying.

Speaker 1 (40:57):
I know what I'm saying, bro, And they tell you
to walking straight path and it's like, I ain't gonna lie.

Speaker 3 (41:02):
I'm trying. I'm trying.

Speaker 1 (41:05):
But the but the only the only other thing I
speak to me is getting money in the street is
do something with the money, yep, because that shit is coming.

Speaker 3 (41:14):
You will be really getting it.

Speaker 1 (41:16):
The only thing you will be doing is building up
a lot of bills in the street. Got their bag
to pay a lot of bills. They'm not just shining.
You don't own nothing. You just paying her bills, your
mama bills, four five cars and the party got a condo.

Speaker 3 (41:31):
You just got a lot of shit going on. But
you don't own nothing.

Speaker 2 (41:34):
To that point. Man, information, Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
It's it's so many resources now that internet work. Man,
and they open up the book, man, open up these books.

Speaker 3 (41:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (41:44):
Let's say you want to hide something from black man,
put it in the book. So you know what I'm saying,
that's what that's the naswer. I want to push, yeah,
and that I'm gonna push, you know, I want to
get back to these schools and let's get back to
read and writing and cursals. You know what I'm saying.
That's what I'm telling them. It's old yeah, but you
know that's that's just that's just the most ship I

(42:04):
be on. But like just just reading man, so much
power and reading man, and it's just you know, they
I'm trying to get on the e book thing, but
I can't really get with it. I'm old school, you
know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (42:16):
Like I like the.

Speaker 2 (42:16):
Books so like because it just slows your mind down.
You know, we get the life moving so fast, pressure
beyond you. And I noticed that when I was locked up,
and you know they had me an isolation damn.

Speaker 3 (42:28):
So you know what I'm saying, how long are you
doing isolation? Two years? Like? Shoot, they're trying to break
a nigga spirit.

Speaker 2 (42:36):
Myself in the room, you know what I'm saying. That's
why I'm thanking God. Man, I'm able to you know
what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (42:41):
That you're still saying that motherfucker with your marble still
in tank?

Speaker 2 (42:45):
Who man, God is real man, God is nonna putting
nothing on you can't handle anybody going through something, man,
Just no, God not gonna put nothing on you. You
can't handle.

Speaker 3 (42:55):
Man. You know what I'm saying because I'm.

Speaker 2 (42:58):
Old clothed, but I get looking at them wall like, yeah,
get taller than the man.

Speaker 3 (43:06):
Yeah yeah that yeah, yeah, yeah, see what we can
do laughing.

Speaker 2 (43:15):
We pressure on that man, but oh yeah, we ain't
coming back hot.

Speaker 3 (43:22):
Yeah yeah yeah, right, yeah, yeah what you got going?

Speaker 1 (43:28):
Yeah on the wall man, you know, done that fifty times.
That's ugly on that isolation move. That's what I'm saying, man, Like,
I think black men are warriors, man, because when you
go through that ship and still come out you still popping.
I ain't lost none of my sweat. That'd be the
first thing I be looking to see. Boy, did they
break a nigga?

Speaker 3 (43:48):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (43:50):
Yeah, said yeah natural man, Yeah this in me and
yeah said shout go right to what you You know
what I'm saying, I ain't going backward.

Speaker 3 (44:01):
Yeah, but that's what I think.

Speaker 1 (44:03):
That's what they're trying to do, though, is you know
what I'm saying, some of that is meant to break
a nigga. Change the old mentality is whole get down
to make him like a damn near like a road
by scared to death and just ain't scared.

Speaker 2 (44:15):
Straight man, I know somebody like that right now.

Speaker 3 (44:19):
I don't go through that. They do it. They do it.

Speaker 2 (44:22):
Though, but now you know, you know what I'm saying,
like it just you know what I'm saying, Just lessons, man,
You know, everything is a lesson. Man meant to learn,
you know, like they say, it's meant to rehabilitate. You
know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (44:36):
But I disagree with that. It's doing that to a
certain steff. I don't say. I think it's punishment.

Speaker 1 (44:43):
It ain't rehabilitation, Yeah, because rehabilitation is after you get
into a wreck and you're going here and you're doing
they hippy, you.

Speaker 3 (44:52):
Get your legs together. Yeah, like don y'all trying to break.

Speaker 2 (44:57):
A nig so long they ain't got no they don't
even know how to unlock the phone.

Speaker 1 (45:03):
I had a nigga was asking me, man just did
fifteen years long?

Speaker 3 (45:06):
What a man? What the fuck? How'd I changed the all?
What the old thing?

Speaker 1 (45:10):
Get in the car and like a regular little fusion
or something. He ain't know what a thing as you
know what I'm saying. Nigga's soon left behind man in
that beach. But it's surviving there. You know what I'm saying.
But get out here and beat That's what I'm saying.
The breaking nick down.

Speaker 2 (45:25):
Man.

Speaker 3 (45:25):
You get out here and you be falling behind so
much that man.

Speaker 2 (45:29):
My other story Man, this dude named teet Up Man
T Boss T Boss you Florida Man, it was at
what I'm saying, I don't know where you're at. Man,
I hope you all right. You know what I'm saying.
What's the bed for you? But uh, he had did
twenty He had did like twenty five years. He had

(45:49):
been locked up like the late eighties, early nineties, and
he came and he was just looking where. He's a
run everyday. I see him running every day. You know
what I'm saying. Cool, older cat, you know what I'm saying.
You know I see him look at nervous. I said,
we're wrong, man, he said, bloody man, I'm about to
go home, man, he said. He said, I got a

(46:12):
name in here, right, I made my name, man, I
got bodies and here's me. Expect me from being in here.
I got to put my mind down in here. Man,
I got them eight k's and ship out there. I
don't know nothing about that ship. Yeah right now, he said,
he said, Man, he said, Man, I got go on
this goddamn what you do? You know, He's like, Man,

(46:33):
he said, I'm about to go out there and try it. Man,
But if it don't work, man, you know, you know
I kind of you know, I was jacking. You know,
I'm kind of new to the Sisters. I was looking
at him like, Man, this nigga. You know you hear
about ship like that. You know what I'm saying, redemption
ship for sure. You know. I got away from him.
I walked my roller like now, but you know, be

(46:54):
all right. You know I had to go sit on
that for a minute. I'm like, it's a real do
that's a real thing. But this shit really going on
like this, Like you know what I'm saying. That why
I'm thankful for my for my support as to my
family too, man, you know, and the real you know
what I'm saying, the real people in my life. You
know what I'm saying. They helped me get through the
old time, right man. Check all your people, man, send

(47:16):
them some magazines of the world, some pictures. Yeah, man,
just keep saying if they got the money, man, even
if you ain't got no money to cent them. Yeah,
you know what I'm saying, keep them, keep them updated, man,
keep them.

Speaker 3 (47:28):
You know what I'm saying. They you know what I'm saying.
Cause niggas forget about you, and then soon you.

Speaker 1 (47:32):
Get home, my nigga, Damn, y'all gonna do me like, yeah, man,
I'm talking about I'll be seeing that ship from Afarther's
why sometimes even when the rap niggas come home, like
I don't be respecting. I'd be saying, bro, y'all go
to running right up on the nigga. They never spoke
on your behalf when you was in jail. They never
tried to tell these squad blog I don't talk about

(47:54):
it like, hey, bro, that ain't even real. They ain't
have going, but y'all run right up on them. Man,
I just be I don't be respecting it.

Speaker 2 (48:01):
Man.

Speaker 1 (48:01):
You gotta you gotta really, really really be grateful for
the people that when you go that rounde or you
go down that road, the people that's still out here
trying to hold your name up speak on your behalf.

Speaker 3 (48:13):
You know, add a position to your narrative.

Speaker 1 (48:17):
You know what I'm saying, And just help people understand now,
bra ain't no crab shot. He going through that because
of such such, such and such some you know, because
they'll label a nigga red shot or dummy that I don't.

Speaker 3 (48:27):
Like telling my story like or let my mouth.

Speaker 2 (48:30):
You know what I'm saying. I got an og as
a pop. You know what I'm saying. You know what
I'm saying. I think that what separate me from a
lot of people. You know what I'm saying, My pops.
You know what I'm saying, real player. You know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (48:41):
Real o.

Speaker 2 (48:41):
G godfel Man. He always taught me. Man, you know,
let let other people mouth praise. You know what I'm saying,
not your own. You know what I'm saying, last longer. Yeah,
and I believe that what you just speaking. I always
tell people, man, when they when they know men, I
tell I knew from when I was run around and

(49:01):
just don't know, like, make sure you tell the story,
but don't let them down. Yeah, for sure, you know
what I'm saying. Make sure you get on the real
you know what I'm saying. That why I always keep
my you know what I'm saying, my circle, I keep
it like man, this on the phone last night three.

Speaker 3 (49:16):
Hours we our like chopping it shopping it like bro,
my tripping.

Speaker 2 (49:22):
Yeah, you know what I'm saying. Who keep me grounded?
Oh geez, you know what I'm saying, my head straight exactly.

Speaker 1 (49:30):
That's what we were talking about for you before you
got here too. It's like I'm telling you, man, And
also it's like a gift and a curse, and sometimes
the gift is a curse.

Speaker 3 (49:42):
You see what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (49:43):
But I know that you being in the middle of
your run, bro, and still ain't I don't know nothing
by no interrogation room. I ain't trying to slip out
this bit. It beat Bro, trying to get back at you.
You see what I'm saying to this little light start
righting may backs and they won't get back home my

(50:03):
nigga man, BBLI shitting, they don't want no another nigga
dive and then that.

Speaker 3 (50:11):
Shit fuck you mean? But that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (50:13):
That's why it's honorable, because again, responsibility and taking accountability
is the highest form of manhood adulthood. Really, you know
what I'm saying, so that ain't even got no gym
do on it. Like if you've done something, man, don't
drag another nigga with that. You know what I'm saying.
That's how life is, bro and that's what I'm preaching.

(50:34):
But another thing that you were talking about the book shit,
I'm finding myself because I listen to books every day,
but I listen to them. I go to sleep listening
in the books. That's why you know I'm having high
level game because you know, it's a high output for me,
so I gotta have some in tape.

Speaker 3 (50:51):
So what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (50:52):
But the other day I grab a book and try
to read it, not listen to it, and I found
myself kept drifting off that. I said, oh man, they
have got me stuck on the electronic ship.

Speaker 3 (51:05):
It hurt my feelings. I was doing that too though.
You read Old Child? What was that? What can really peace? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (51:13):
That's really your you flushing, you getting your getting thoughts
and that that needed.

Speaker 1 (51:18):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (51:19):
You know what I'm saying. You put you in the
deep thought. That's what I That's what I kind of
like about it. I'd be thinking about something and the
book might have just trigger something. Your ideas. It's just
that time and that that that piece that silent man.
You know what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying,
piece be still.

Speaker 1 (51:35):
Yeah, my comprehension though, Like I didn't like the fact
that we fu up.

Speaker 3 (51:40):
Yeah, I didn't like that we fucked up. Man, I'm saying,
Damn I read. I didn't like that. Because I can
listen to it and I'm digesting it. It's going through.
I'm understanding because I got my little pad right there.

Speaker 1 (51:54):
I'm right down as I'm reading as at days saynding
writing ship down there right there.

Speaker 3 (51:59):
That's the reason how I can keep up with ship and.

Speaker 2 (52:01):
Say that in the Bible, man, write it down, make
it plain, yeah for sure.

Speaker 1 (52:05):
And then sometimes I just pull that out and read
it and just be like, Okay, that's what I was
reading yesterday, That's what I was on. Okay, oh, that's
what I got from that chapter, this and that. But
nigga trying to read that ship and drifting off.

Speaker 2 (52:18):
I'm saying me, think, I gotta go sit my brother
some books.

Speaker 1 (52:20):
And yeah, my brother I just told I just told me, like,
I got to go sit on some books, like right,
order some book when I get out of there, Yeah for sure,
because that that's what's gonna help a nigg like get
through that ship. But I mean yeah, when you in there,
you ain't got no choice but to comprehend, right.

Speaker 3 (52:39):
It fucked up?

Speaker 2 (52:39):
Like but man like that should just taught me, like,
isolate myself sometimes.

Speaker 3 (52:46):
Yeah, take my.

Speaker 2 (52:50):
Damnself at least I can open it. Yeah, but just
take that time to yourself. Man, you know what I'm saying,
because yeah.

Speaker 1 (53:00):
Yeah, exactly, and learn because sometimes I ain't gonna lie.
Some niggas come out there jail with more game, more understanding,
but you can do that out hear. I need black
little boys to know you ain't got the way down
there to get out let together?

Speaker 3 (53:16):
What that what the laugh was? Ut? Yeah, okay what
it was time niggats tied in them booked to right?

Speaker 2 (53:22):
Look lit whatig fu nigga by the Buddyes, just gonna
laugh over here.

Speaker 3 (53:29):
Yeah like that that pain. Yeah, you start kicking food
that ship man.

Speaker 1 (53:40):
Yeah, it's always getting bad news in that junt too.
That's what a nigga respect to. Like, I was just
watching the pe Wee long Way nigga locked up.

Speaker 3 (53:49):
And the birthday man, man, man I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (53:54):
They feel like every time a nigga get locked up,
like even with dirt, dirt go down and two three
they start pressing the line.

Speaker 3 (54:03):
It's like, damn bravery time you go to jail, feel
like the long way with you.

Speaker 2 (54:08):
My neighbor in loved of with rid because if had
a hold on before I got out, old about my
old probation. But they ended up that was I was
just so thankful to be because I was you know,
when you in the prison mode, you be in that
mold like yeah, they get it on whatever it's gonna
be and that and you know, when we're young, we're

(54:28):
talking to what is a uh.

Speaker 3 (54:31):
Hope for the bit it spent path for the worst
the world the word you saying.

Speaker 2 (54:36):
So they was on some ship like they were trying
to give me two more years for what for the
for the violations got violated by uh probation, My my
federal probation. I had called it dirty and then you
know what I'm saying, by catching his charge. But God
worked it out. Man, they let me go. You know
what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (54:54):
Then I'm thinking it to fizz, so you know I'm
already here this man.

Speaker 2 (54:58):
I ain't even Yeah, hey boy, hey man, you know
not Yeah, but Jake, God just showed me like he
always got something for me. Now for sure because I
wasn't locked over one time. Say, hey boy, I said,
I just pray God, but judging the good move go.
He say, you know, well, fear but God can he

(55:27):
man know that that But you know what I'm saying,
like we believe its man.

Speaker 3 (55:32):
You know I'm a believer man. Yeah, to show me too, Yeah,
me too.

Speaker 2 (55:35):
Me not very you know what I'm saying, religion, but
on spiritual facts facts.

Speaker 3 (55:42):
I believe in a.

Speaker 2 (55:42):
Lot of things, a lot of different religious do you know?

Speaker 1 (55:46):
So you now yeah, not for sure. You was in
there with long Wait what he what he was on?

Speaker 2 (55:50):
How how he was feeling keeping his spears man, you know,
basically keeping shout the fun laugh. He's working out though,
doing a lot of working out, just keeping his mind
strong man. Yeah, I'm saying free long Way man for real.

Speaker 3 (56:05):
Yeah that that that's.

Speaker 1 (56:06):
Just sick man, I'm talking about it just feels like
when you go down there. Then his case was sounding funny.
They I think they threw some crazy numbers out there,
big and like they was on some but that's how
they do when they come like they said, my people
plugged with chop.

Speaker 3 (56:22):
Oh man, we don't know no chop oh you know
what I mean.

Speaker 1 (56:26):
But that's the kind of ship they throw in the
mix just for the public perception.

Speaker 3 (56:30):
They try to. We got another one off the street
about create Pitty.

Speaker 2 (56:37):
One. Yeah him, uh uh surprise them.

Speaker 3 (56:44):
King pinin It was only all me.

Speaker 2 (56:47):
Yeah you see, I'm saying, yeah, so but uh whatever
they who got signed.

Speaker 3 (56:54):
Apprecier that Oh yeah, what's that preacher? Yeah yeah yeah, yeah,
yeah yeah.

Speaker 2 (57:01):
Boy got money making sited. You know, they got the
movie you know.

Speaker 1 (57:05):
Yeah, hey if you know, you know kind of thing,
you know what I'm saying, Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure.

Speaker 3 (57:14):
I think I think you gotta you gotta bright future.

Speaker 2 (57:17):
Man.

Speaker 1 (57:17):
You just gotta like you can't. You can't jump off.
It's treading me or though. You got to stay on
this month, this run right here, you know what I mean,
You gotta break wide. And I know they trying to
handicap you because your situation. They won't allow you to
be around Luchi, right, Is that?

Speaker 3 (57:34):
Is that what I understand?

Speaker 2 (57:36):
You know what I'm saying, Yeah, he won't he can't
be around me.

Speaker 3 (57:40):
So is it. You can't be around him, or he
can't be around you.

Speaker 2 (57:42):
He can't be around me.

Speaker 1 (57:46):
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Speaker 1 (58:27):
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(58:47):
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