Feat Corey Lamar "Rich Homie Quan's Dad" | Rich Homie Quan’s Dad on Birdman Missing Funeral, Barbershop Shooting, Young Thug & Takeoff’s Estate - ITS UP THERE PODCAST W/LOONEY

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What was that he was here? He was here at
my barbershop. Thank that it was at my barbershop, like
a Tuesday and Wednesday morning, sitting that just got through
cutting two EDGs and I was sitting at the computer.
Guy came in and started shooting.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
From a man who says he chased the gunman who
shot a popular Atlanta rapper's father. General Too is Tom Jones,
alive in northwest Atlanta, where police say Tom that the
gunman got away in a black Honda Accord.

Speaker 1 (00:24):
Justin. That's right.

Speaker 3 (00:25):
That's also the description of the car that witness told
me he chased down this road after he heard gunshots
coming from Lamar's barbershop. The victim survived the shooting, a
shooting many in this community to think is connected to
the victim's son, Atlanta rapper rich Homie Kwan. Rich Homi
Kwan is in Atlanta rapper Rich Homie Kwan, whose real

(00:48):
name is the kwan Is Lamar is one of the
hottest artists around.

Speaker 1 (00:51):
Tom was smooth. El Red is also known.

Speaker 3 (00:54):
For his close relationship with his father, Corey Lamar.

Speaker 1 (00:59):
That he had to crib.

Speaker 3 (01:02):
Something here at Lamar's barbershop or wondering if an alleged
feud between Kwan and other rappers led to court Lamar
being shot four times inside his barbershop. Atlanta police say
the gunman came in the shop and opened fire.

Speaker 1 (01:16):
So I heard about three gun shots, and so I
saw the guy come out.

Speaker 3 (01:19):
Van White says he heard the gunshots, saw the gunman
and chased him, but he got away.

Speaker 1 (01:25):
From like a Tuesday Wednesday morning sitting that just got
through cutting two heads, and I was sitting at the computer.
Guy came in and started shooting, and he came in.
So this wasn't even the drive by NOA. I came
into the barber shooting at you, shooting. It was just
it was I was targeted, what for something that had
nothing to do with me? And it came from the
rap industry. I've been at the barbershop twenty six years.

(01:46):
You seen the movie that the barbershop? Yeah, same scenario.
So is this the same shit Woody were talking about
on the stand.

Speaker 4 (01:58):
If you ain't talking no to I ain't interested. Look
they say this guy's the limit.

Speaker 1 (02:03):
I'm going farther than that. She gets blowing on.

Speaker 4 (02:05):
My phone, So I called her mama, come and get
your daughter back. They wanted little better than get them
boys wag or what little one and I bust your brain, but.

Speaker 1 (02:13):
Get all that they did. This guy's limb, I'm going fall.

Speaker 4 (02:17):
You can try to, but can't kill me.

Speaker 1 (02:19):
I'm the bater.

Speaker 4 (02:20):
I just bought a nigga life as in did.

Speaker 1 (02:21):
The side talking about that all you lads, the reason
you broke.

Speaker 4 (02:24):
You don't know how the horse I'm trying. It ain't
normal stress something red, run, red dye, hit the black
one twelve come down. No, I'm looking to the fillets
ash for a bullet because he never felt want to
sticking to the waters and nail comes ride with my dollars,
trying to nail something you and he got.

Speaker 1 (02:40):
Your See that's real, that's right. It's like like when
you reached out. I had been following you, yeah, and
I was like, see dude, had them real like like
you get into like like see with me, I don't
have nothing to hide. I feel me like at the
end of the day, man, God put me in this
platform for reasons, So I guess what I'm gonna use

(03:01):
this a fact. I look at a lot of your interviews, bro,
I appreciate a lot of them. I appreciate them, Bro,
appreciate that. I thank you, Bro for sure. Like I
always tell people, Bro, like Atlanta really love long they do.
I'm talking about Bro. When I'm down here, it feel
I be getting so much love. I know you know why.
I'm gonna tell you why because see the authenticy you

(03:24):
ain't fake. You feel me. And that's that's literally what
I get to from everybody. Guess what you asked the
questions people want to know the answer to, Lord, you
feel me? And guess what when when somebody come in,
they feel your spirit, they feel you genue. Yes, they know. Hey, man,
I'm doing this. I'm doing this and make a living
where I'm doing this ship for the streets. Yes, you

(03:46):
feel me, so you ain't forgot where you came from.
And when I see your interviews, even when you interview Korn,
I like how you was challenging him like Corn, you
can't tell me that, brother, it's me so you know.
I watched them and guess what Corn would always tell me, Man,
he's like, Bro, you probably the best that I do
assassinated to doing. And I feel like and I always

(04:06):
took that as like as as like an honor you
know what I'm saying, because he's been in the game
so long. He'd been bets and TVs and billboards and right,
and it's like for him to understand that, Yo, what
you are distributing, Bro, it's a little different, different, right
than what's going on. He would tell me that flat out,

(04:27):
like just on some bro anytime I joined his live
or anything. But man, man, we gotta get a nut
on them. And I be like when I look at yours,
but you know what, it ain't scripted, Bro, you come
right off the top. Yeah, you see, won't got no note.
We could have just chop it up, like you know
what I'm saying. That's the best part of this game, bro.
It's like and sometimes I ask myself, could anybody else

(04:51):
do it like you do it? Bro? By theyself, nobody
run because you got to be the truth. Doing it
like that, it can't be because usually what makes a
rap powerful it's just thirty niggas around and he drawing,
I take your lingo, how you dress, how you look like.
He doesn't kind of missed a potato head in itself,
you know what I'm saying, because you know, in today's society,

(05:11):
that's what they're doing, Bro, like like don't know, like like, see,
you're organic, I got a party common the other days.
His cousin want to get into tow Troup business because
he in the game. But he's like he, Bro, you
got to find your own way. But see, guess what,
you found your own way. You see what I'm saying.
You see like I see I'm old school. I can
see it, Bro. I can see the scripted ones. I
can see the ones to hire just for the paper,

(05:31):
and I can see the ones man and he'll really
trying to make a difference. Man. And guess what, like
off camera, you wanted them to appreciate it, I see it.
I appreciate that. Listen what you got to always remember?
Somebody always watching, Bro, And see I learned like I
pay attention to the questions you asked, like you get personal.
But guess what, that's what the fans want to see.

(05:55):
You know, they can see the videos, they can see
me hopping out with now. But Bro, let's talk about
some stuff they can't exactly. That's why that's why you
where you at, brother, because you But but then again,
you make the person your interview and feel comfortable to
talk about that with you too, man. That's what when
I see swag. Yeah yeah yeah, found Lane. Guess what

(06:17):
make the most of us? I appreciate that. I appreciate that,
Big Home. I appreciate that for show, for show to show.
Welcome to us up there podcast. You know the vibes
you're dealing with the Final Boss. This is the number
one show in America right now. And today we have
someone that I was very very intrigued to speak with

(06:38):
because I know this gentleman is very introspective and also
he is the father of a legend in Atlanta, one
of the most influential artists that ever came out of Atlanta,
rich Homi Kwan. So we got Corey, who was rich
Homey Kwan's daddy. How are you, brother, Hey man, I'm
holding man for the most part, still trying to process

(07:00):
said bro, yeah, hell of the age, man. You know
what I'm saying. Not only was Coin my son, he's
my best friend, he's my business partner, and you know,
dealing with me trying to process it. You know, Corn
left behind five kids, right, you know what I'm saying.

(07:21):
So I'm trying to assist with them dealing with what
they're dealing with and in the process of me still
dealing with it as well. Yeah, I was told a
while back, man, definitely something you never get used to.
You just learn to live with it.

Speaker 3 (07:35):
Man.

Speaker 1 (07:35):
Yeah, and that was your son, he was, you know,
like I said, it's important for us people like me.
And later in this conversation we'll get into who celebrated
corn and who didn't celebrate corn and who should have
celebrated corn. Right, We'll get into that, But right now,
I just want to speak more so about you know,
he was extremely influential, bro, what he put down in

(07:58):
this game. He kind of helped usher in in the
sound that's literally running rap right now, right right. I
feel for y'all. My heart goes out to y'all, you know,
because I just couldn't imagine being in that situation. You know,
what have you been doing to hold up with this situation? Man?

(08:18):
For the most part, what I've been doing at and
I'm fifty five years old, something that I just embarked on. Man,
I had to raise my hand and give me some help.
MAST been seeing a therapist, you know what I'm saying.
It's been very helpful. I didn't know all these years, man,
you know, how we as black. Man, I'm cool. I
don't need this. I don't need that. But literally had

(08:41):
to just say, hey, man, this a bit much six
months here, But I still found myself in the same
position mentally. You know what I'm saying, Wake up, man,
sometime six thirty seven in the morning. Turn around to
look at the clock. Man, it's twelve fort They ain't
even left out the bedroom, went in the hallway, hand

(09:01):
did nothing. You know what I'm saying, Man, Yeah, depressed?
You know what I'm saying. Like, depression is real, man,
It's so real and powerful. Very that's but therapy is
also powerful. And like we were speaking about, I think
that was a great analogies like when someone kidneys are
not flushing, right, your emotional you emotionally tied up, emotionally

(09:24):
built up? Right, how do you keep from breaking? Though?
I grew up in the church, I got a strong faith, right,
and when I get down and depressed and shared a
tear too here and there, I shed a tear of
getting my feelings because I miss corn in the flesh

(09:45):
exactly as far as a dad. I did everything I
could do, man, you follow me. I have no regrets,
I have no cuddle with the shutters. And I know
that korn knew how much I loved him. He knew
how much I wanted what was best for him. You
follow what I'm saying. So a lot of times, Man,
I lean on my faith and I just think about

(10:06):
heavy is the head? That where's the crown?

Speaker 2 (10:08):
Man?

Speaker 1 (10:09):
You follow me, It's a lot, come with it. But
I also feel like God places his toughest battles on
his toughest soldiers. Man. So I mean like I'm human,
but at the end of the day, Man, nothing will
defeat me, even a passing of my son. You feel

(10:29):
what I'm saying. I know that I'll see him again.
And there are signs Man, While like when my grandson
went to the prom last week, I ride my bike.
I generally see like one or two cartinals a week
while I'm riding. Man, last Friday, I saw five cartinals. Man, Wow,
And that was just a reminder that Dad, I'm here.

(10:52):
He's gone in the flesh. But our relationship and our
bun nobody can never take that away. Man, And you
are beacon of like the Black Father too though, right,
just your relationship even I don't even know if we've
seen like from some of the other rappers that have
reached their untimely passion. Like we didn't see Nipsey and

(11:13):
his father have a relationship. We didn't see MORET three
and his father have a relationship, right, you would dealt
with him, and I think that kind of helped him
when he had to find himself on the journey by itself,
right you know, So you know, I kind of want
to speak about that, Like, did you guys speak every day?
Me and Korn spoke several times a day. Yeah, so

(11:37):
y'all were real Yeah, we were real tight. Like the
day before he passed, bro, Like, I talked to Coin
ten times, ten eleven times that day. So it wasn't
anything for us to have a conversation in the morning
and text throughout the day, called each other throughout the day. So,
like I said, it was one So like we we
had a bun man. And so you have to realize,
like I grew up without my biological father, So that

(12:03):
was something I established at an early age if I
ever had kids, one question to my kids, ain't gonna
never have And that's what my dad at because I
had that question. Man, you follow me. So it's like
when you when you plant a seed, it's gonna grow.
And I planted that seed when I was young. Man,
like I'm gonna beat up on my kids. And like

(12:23):
me and Korn just had a unique bun, Like we
could look at each other brun no, hey, let's go.
You feel me and said father? Yeah yeah, you know,
like like like you know, I got texts in my phone?
Where your pop? You good? Yeah? What's up? Son? Nothing?
I just won't tell you a love And I appreciate
you all the little things like that, or like just
hey man, I really enjoyed pulling up on you that

(12:44):
they just kicking it with you. He was like apartment
off and it texts you the same thing. Man, I
appreciate you know, like we just had mutual respect for
each other. We had hell of a trust in each other. Man,
did you I was reading that he was big in baseball?
Was that you you're doing when you know what his
mother's doing? Wow? See when he grew up with his mom,
they went to baseball. So I played baseball when I

(13:06):
was a kid. So you got the gene. Yeah yeah, yeah,
So so I played that. That was my favorite sport.
You know what I'm saying. So technical genetics. That's probably
the way it came. But his mom was very instrumental
in him paying the t lead box. I was at
the barbershop, man, you know, I coult like I could
break away sometime, but Saturday was the money day. You

(13:27):
follow what I'm saying, that's the big day. That's like
if you know barbershops like I come up in the hood,
so I'm knowing like and then I got partners like
who are balls? And sometimes when they you know, cause
I used to be a street guy, and they I
will wonder, like, man, y'all ain't making no money. He'll
tell me on Saturday I made such as such no
doubt I might have saw three grand just Saturday, you

(13:49):
know what, like like like how things going with baring
to day? I was still cutting him, man, I'd be crazy, man,
because like you know, I was dedicated that My granddaddy
told me, you know, just as much time as you
would put in you know, going to a job, you
put double that in your perfect for sure. And that's
what I did. I gave him my all, man. It

(14:10):
was very beneficial to me. Man, do you still so
when did you stop cutting? Twenty fourteen? Okay, okay, I
got shot in fourteen. I got shot in fourteen. I
didn't know when I got shot. Oh I do know
that because Kun had a song about that.

Speaker 5 (14:24):
Daddy, I got you d didn't want it for you?

Speaker 1 (14:40):
Yes, how did you feel? Let's get into that I did.
I forgot all about it. Even with what I'm thinking
about speaking to you about. I forgot all about that.
Let's get into that. What happened then? What was that hit?
Was it here? It was here at my barbershop. It
was at my barbershop, like a Tuesday and Wednesday morning
standing that just got through into it. And I was

(15:01):
sitting at the computer. Guy came in started shooting from A.

Speaker 2 (15:04):
Man who says he chased the gunman who shot a
popular Atlanta rapper's father and ghantle to is Tom Jones.
Now live in northwest Atlanta, where police say Tom that
the gunman got away in a black Honda Accord.

Speaker 1 (15:16):
Justin. That's right.

Speaker 3 (15:17):
That's also the description of the car that witness told
me he chased down this road after he heard gunshots
coming from Lamar's barbershop. The victim survived the shooting, a
shooting many in this community to think is connected to
the victim's son, Atlanta rapper rich Homie Kwan.

Speaker 1 (15:37):
Rich Homi Kwan is in.

Speaker 3 (15:38):
Atlanta rapper rich Homi Kwan, whose real name is Takwan
Is Lamar, is one of the hottest artists around.

Speaker 1 (15:44):
Tom was Smooth is also known.

Speaker 3 (15:46):
For his close relationship with his father, Corey Lamar. That
some here at Lamar's barbershop or wondering if an alleged
feud between Kwan and other rappers led to Corey Lamar
being shot four times inside his barber shop. Atlanta police
say the gunman came in the shop and opened fire.

Speaker 1 (16:09):
So I heard about three gun shots, and so I
saw the guy come out.

Speaker 3 (16:12):
Van White says he heard the gunshots, saw the gunman
and chased him, but he got away.

Speaker 1 (16:17):
He got in a black car, and that's all I
know from there.

Speaker 3 (16:20):
One barber told me he went to the back, and
another barber said he left the shop. They say that's
when the gunman came in. Workers here told me someone
shot up the shop about a month ago. I talked
to several people who believed the shooting is a result
of Quan feuding or disrespecting other rappers and songs. Police
wouldn't come in on that and say their investigation continues,

(16:43):
But in at least one interview, Rich Homie Kwan repeatedly
said he isn't feuding with one rapper in question.

Speaker 1 (16:51):
I know a distant another disrespect to him as a man.

Speaker 3 (16:53):
Man White told me he doesn't care about a feud.

Speaker 1 (16:56):
He says, this is about life. Whatever the case, maybe
they need to stop. Where was that? He wasn't here?
It was here at my barbershop. They ain't that. It
was at my barbershop, like a Tuesday and Wednesday morning
sitting that just got through cutting two heads and I
was sitting at the computer. Guy came in and started shooting.
And he came in. So this wasn't even the drive

(17:17):
by NOA. I came into the barbershop shooting at you, shooting.
It was just it was I was targeted, what for
something that had nothing to do with me? And it
came from the wrap industry. I've been at the barbershop
twenty six years. You seen the movie that the Barbershop? Yeah,
same scenario. So is this the same ship Woody were
talking about on the stand. We're trying to see what
they were talking in regards to was the barbershop being

(17:41):
shot up. See, that's what I thought. So this is
true to see that that that's what it ain't dragged
you into this bulls and so it was. It was
two situations. The barbershop got shot up, then some months
later I got shot that that had something that had
nothing to do with me, of course not. You know,
I was twenty six years in the game at the barbershop.

(18:04):
Never even had to call the police to the barbershop anything,
you know, like a pill in the community. The barbershop
has been in our family since nineteen sixty eight. That
was a year before I was born. So from sixty
eight to twenty fourteen, that was Lamar's barbershop. Bruh. And
so after that, you just said, I'm done with it.
I didn't want to see it. The family kind of

(18:24):
like overruted Corn you know, was like because he rich
rich man. Yeah, and honestly man, like I steal saw
corn Is. I used called him baby Corn. I saw
him as Corn. I never saw him as rich homie.
You know how sometimes you'd be like people be like, boy,

(18:45):
your son doing it. He doing it, but in your
mind he's still your son. That's how Mama. So so
you don't just see what the world. You don't see
him like that on view him like yes, the same
way with the mother when they got to killer son,
they don't view him like the gangster. That's my baby,
what's going on? That's real. So so it was like
I didn't I didn't see Corn being as big as

(19:08):
the world saw him because you know, he called me
dad pop, you know, and like every time he was
around me, he was Corn. He didn't have to be
rich homing. So you know that that that kind of
like that got my attention though, you know, after I
got shot man and went through what I went through.
So at that moment, you thinking my son rapping, But
it ain't you know, I ain't really looking at it

(19:30):
like yeah, I ain't y'all looking at it like you know,
I'm really staring. I'm over here cutting, I've been doing this.
I'm on my own wave. I ain't trying to retire
from my son, none of that. So but damn, damn bro,
them came in there and targeted you. That's yeah, your father,

(19:51):
because you got to look at it like this here.
If it was for Corn, they couldn't get the coin.
So guess what we get to the next closest thing.
But they nigga don't play. They ain't really cut like that.
What y'all boys doing? Man? Y'all playing? Because guess what
if they were cut like that, you don't ever see
him do a white boy like you don't never see

(20:13):
him do the police like that. And you don't got
no picks and shoes. If you really like that, you
like that, you know, did you ever find out what
it was for? Though? No, I didn't. I didn't, you
know what I mean? Wow, Son, I can't believe that shit.
That was in twenty fourteen, and last year was ten
years you know what I'm saying, And that's when you

(20:35):
stopped cutting halpen somebody be doing all your money. And
I was telling a buddy of mine, It's just crazy
how you have plans. See, my plan was to semi retirement.
I got fifty, you know what I'm saying, And I
think I must have been around forty five. So I
had had like five more years in and I was
just gonna come in like Thursday, Friday and Saturday. But

(20:58):
I'm reminded, man, we have. But then God had different
plans the whole following God had different plans, and I don't.
I never questioned god man, you follow me? He didn't
say hurt hum in danger wouldn't come my way, but
he said he'll protect me, right, you following? I got
hit six times you know where? Yeah, but guess what,
But it ain't no way you telling me that, right,

(21:19):
hit six times? And at the end of the day,
guess what, bro they walked into this barber shop and
shot you six times. I got to hit six times
with two bullets, though, would go in come out like, Yeah,
I had a couple of players, you know what I'm saying.
But but you know, at the end of the day, man,
still though, you don't need to be hit one all.
And I don't wish that on nobody. Like I was

(21:40):
from the street. That was street. I ain't never been
in no hospital. I was in the hospital seventy two days, man,
like they went crazy down now man had never been
man forty five years. Oh man, I'm thinking I'm gonna
go in and come out.

Speaker 2 (21:54):
Man.

Speaker 1 (21:54):
Folk kept me seventy two days. Man, what was going on?
Was it the bleeding? The blood? Class you know is man?
You know first of all it's about the dollar had
great insurance. Yeah, you know, you know, milk down. Yeah,
I don't have buddy, got shot in hand, No insure.
They always three day bigger man. I'm like, man, and

(22:16):
I felt like I could have came on home, you
feel me? But they milk and yeah yeah so so
like man, when you look at life, man, like one
of my partners toime, I've been through some stuff, man,
and not only that. When I got shot in fourteen,
my grandmother who raised me, I lost tor while I
was in the hospital. Man. So man, it's crazy, right,

(22:36):
hell man, look you see my glory, but you're ont
know my story. This is a big boy. This is like,
this is my same for the week. Man, This ain't
for the this is so how do you look at
the rap game? This is the rap game to you
a curse? Do you think you know what I mean?
How you how do you view it? That's a million
dollar question, man, because a lot of times when you

(22:57):
look at how it's set up and you look at
at what comes with it at the end of the day. Man,
some days I feel like it's a curse, and like
some days I feel like if my son had to
embark on this, he may still be here with me,
right because they celebrate the drugs. Shit, they celebrate that. Listen,
there's a lot of it's a lot to go on

(23:19):
behind the scenes, man, that the public don't know. You
feel me. You got to realize, Man, it took so
long for us to get a deal because I'm for
us in black and white. You know they gonna label me.
It's difficult because you can't just tell me, hey, hey
didn't No, Listen, I want to know how you come
up with this theory. Let me share my theory with you.

(23:39):
You feel me. You know, at the end of the day,
ninety five percent of the artists that walk into a
building where they need the money, yes, you follow me. Yes,
So when you're in need, they know you need. So
guess what negotia Listen, totally different. Guess what you'll sign
your life away and don't even know what you're signing that.

(24:00):
You know what I'm saying. So, like we went in
the situation, Man, let's discuss this publishing. Let let's negotiate
where you all don't have to own this, publish publishing
for a lifetime. Feel and these are very these are
what I call paramount practices. Believe it. This ain't something
that they should shun out. But again we just spoke
about you know, if they say don't smell smoke and

(24:23):
get him out of the house, get him out, don't
nobody need to know we burning? Is my point. My point.
So like when somebody like me come along, man that
has got a little sense, man, and like, you can't
piss on my leg and tell me it's raining, right,
you don't have to show me your pretty cause and
all that, because that's that's that's temporary. Man. You follow me,
and you know this this rap game, damn there, Like

(24:44):
you know, being in sports, brother, that window very small.
So guess what, you got to maximize that opportunity, man,
because at the end of the day, you know they
gonna go on to the knicks. Man. You follow me.
They being born every day, and you got to realize
the ones that is really pulling the streams and making
stuff happen. Bro, what they care about us saying nothing?

(25:04):
Do you know when coryn passed, I can count on
one hand how many executives or corporate people call or
text me to send their condolences. Some talking about from
New York to LA and you know them the two
prominent cities as entertainment. Yeah, and they'd have made a

(25:26):
lot of money off come on man. So so guess
what folks ain't called me. They don't care non abusing bro.
It's gone on to as what's funked up is that,
and that's why we have to celebrate each other.

Speaker 2 (25:36):
And so.

Speaker 1 (25:38):
Even when I see Young Thug, I spoke about this yesterday,
Young Thug it just did an interview with GQ, and
I really don't know how to feel about it because
I'm getting calls from in the industry who probably won't
tell Young Thug right, but I'm getting calls from like
big podcasters, they got big deals and shit, and they like,
why would he go and do his first interview with

(25:59):
a white platform for him? Now, I wrap this back
around to what we're speaking about, which is I would
hope that if there was a black company that made
the money with QUN that they would treat that differently.
Believe it. But I'm almost to a point why I'm
not convinced that that will happen because look at Birdman.

(26:19):
Bird Man made a lot of money sposed to had
had a relationship with rich Homie Quoan. What is your
feelings about Birdman? Bird is who he is. Man, you
follow me. At the end of the day, man, you
accept people for who they are, like people be like
how you deal with such and such, how you deal
with him? He is he that they probably speak about me.
But at the end of the day, I look at

(26:40):
it like, hey, man, when you're old enough to understand
and accept the person for who they are, it's not
for me to judge. I just know how far to
go with that person. You follow what I'm saying. For
your son, do you think that he should have showed
up maybe to the funeral? Was the relationship that bird
bird reached out to them? Okay? He did Listen. The
day my son passed, he called my phone. He called

(27:05):
my phone. You know what I'm saying, like, hey, hey, hey, fam,
I'm here. If you need anything, I'm here. You know,
he was very he was he was being positive for me.
You know what I'm saying, Hey, man, Look, I can't
tell you you know how to feel, but you know,
keep your head up. I'm him for if you need
any you know, if you need anything, FAM, call me.
I'm gonna call away. So he did reach out, you

(27:26):
know what I'm saying. He did reach out to me
and checked on me several times. And it's crazy because
reached out to me about two three weeks ago let
me know that they was coming here, and it was like,
I want to see you when I come. You know
what I'm saying. So you know, like, man, I just
accept things for what they're all like at the end
of the day, Man, that man up there gonna take
care of it. Yeah. Nah, And none of this shit

(27:47):
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(29:11):
be careful how you acting in this universe because God
has the final say. And my past used to say
all the time when judgement they come, I gotta go
for you, I gotta go for me. We'll stand by
myself with that man for sure, for sure. And if
God got a record keeper, he used to say, I
show hope my good I weigh my best, Lord, I
hope so that that's how I see you know. But

(29:32):
I want to get back to this shooting man, because
that shit is like blowing my mind, like you know
what I mean that these guys walked in and hit
you like that. No one's in there, damn son. But no,
let's even move past that the rap game being a curse.
How you feel about the rap game? And if Quorn

(29:52):
was never a rapper, see, because the universe is so perfect,
you know what I mean. It's like he's the it's
the base and it's the music. It's like he would
have probably been successful either way he went, but he
just happened to go to music six. He raising Coorn.
Corn was one of them kids. He do just enough

(30:14):
to get by. Unless I put my feet down, he
reaches full potential and honestly, man, like I was telling
Monte and goots them. Man. A couple of months ago, Man,
I remember we used to be over to the house,
you know, having meetings, and started sitting around Corn being
the studio recording and stuff, and I said, we didn't know, man,

(30:36):
we were watching greatness because we took it for granted.
And I really feel like the rap thing took off
of him because it was so easy for him, bru
It didn't require a lot out of him, you know,
like some of his biggest hits, he was just shelled them.
Yeah that's old dad. You know rappers, they make so
much music. The last song is the best song. Look

(30:59):
at it yea, yeah, exactly, so so light with Coorn, Man,
it was like the rap was so easily so you
think baseball would have took more dedication than the rap.
And that's kind of why rap was. Yeah, that's why
outweighed it all. Was like he he could go in
and like we would pull up and do verses man

(31:19):
with people, and man, these folks want to go back
and redo their verse and Corn like, what, let me
hear the beat? I'll never forget a quick story. Man.
When we were in Miami doing a show, I forgot
what club? And after the show Birds, I want you
all to come and go back to the studio with me.
He's like, Neph, y'all got something I want you to hear.
So we go in the studio. He started playing this

(31:41):
beat beat dropping. Yeah. So Corn said, well a booth
at coryn go in the booth and I'm in awe
like thirteen minutes, bro, he come out the engineer, do
what he do? Man. I looked at fly shout out
fly man over at t ig Yeah, I say that's
a banger. That was the that was the birth of lifestyle.

(32:06):
What teen minute, teen minutes? It might have been listing
that on time my winning the booth, the engineer came, Man,
everybody in the room knew that was a hit. So boring,
Like he had what I call god given talent. Yes,
you have some guys that have it, and you have
some guys that be reaching in the game. Right And
I'm not saying that my son, but the kid just

(32:28):
had it, man like that was his God given talent. Man,
you know, And I used to be like, corn, how
you do this? Man? Like you don't even right, You
just hear a beat and you just go in there.
And it's like, man, when you hear some of these cats,
you be like, man, that ain't nothing but God. You know,
some time I let I be like, what if I

(32:48):
could make that kind of paper chit speaking, that's what
give me Like sometimes like damn he rapping even with
me would because my money's made off conversation. I wouldn't
never dreamed of that kind of shit because guess how
many of us talk for free all day? And like
like when you look at it, like even like guys

(33:10):
with your platform like I salute y'all. Man. You know,
I sit there and I be like, man, that's got
to be some chill shit. Yeah. You go around, you
talk to people, you know, like like, you ain't got
nobody standing on your back. You ain't punching no clock.
And at the end of the day, man, guess what
your intelligence? Man, and like your deliverance and your structure,

(33:32):
and you're showing it to the masters. And when you
have the numbers you have, you're speaking on relevance. Man,
that's what That's what I think also kind of and
of course this isn't about me, but this platform is
like we go viral for real shit. We don't go
viral cause we set ourselves on fire and we did

(33:52):
the ice hot Chip challenge, right, you understand. We go
viral for breaking the game down or giving direct leading
away inspiration. Right, So that's a totally different thing. Is
big and like and like for me to walk in there,
like I've done a few podcasts, I've been with Corn
on several stages. I've never walked in and seen a

(34:14):
one man show.

Speaker 4 (34:15):
Man.

Speaker 1 (34:16):
If I had a hat on, I take it off.
Like that's big for for for a man to be
like hey, man, like okay, because like when I walk in, like, bro,
you're by yourself. Yeah, you were like yeah, you know
what I'm saying, and like just to see like you
know when when when people of us man get a
break like you've got, you know, we want to we
want to Butler, we want an assist it. And like

(34:36):
like when I pull it up and you was like,
I'm coming down. I'm looking for somebody to come down
and get me. But now it's you in the flesh,
but you. But you know what I see when I
see that, I see humility man. And I used to
and my past used to tell me all the time,
the more God bless you, the more humble you should be.
You follow me for sure, and I live about it.
You see what I'm saying. So like when I see

(34:57):
you sitting there kicking anybody yourself, see, I'm a so
I'm gonna soak the game. I soak it up. I'm
gonna make some some little changes and I'm gonna do
a work for me as long as i can keep
my commitment. You feel that, And I'm anything you need
from me. I'm always like and vice versa. You know
what I'm saying, vice versa. Like the first time he spoke,
it wasn't nothing but respect, you know what I'm saying.

(35:17):
And it was easy to like because I'm thinking when
I get Qawn, because you put the Quorn ship together,
you know what I'm saying. So I'm thinking, like you
were like, bro, he gonna be there, He'll be here,
be there. And he was there. And I never had
talked to him before that or not only was talking
to you and him and Monte and showed up and uh,

(35:38):
and it was that was probably one of the only
times I think him little baby. Certain people when I
sit down with him. Now, people now I got a brand,
so people know what despect. Well, boy, when they first
was getting it, they because media is kind of corny weirdo.
And so when they first sit with me and we
get to kick that game, they would light up and

(36:00):
that shit would do something for me. You know what
I'm saying. You've seen enthusiasm, and you've seen the relaxation
of like I critique the interview with Quorn, man, I
critique your interview a little baby, you know what I'm saying.
Like it got to the point where like, well, I've
been off Instagram, like last three months took me a
mental break, but it got to the point, bro, like
I want to know who you was gonna do the

(36:21):
next interview with you know what I'm saying, because you
get to see a different side of them, and then
you get to see how you dig into them. Bro,
you show the world things that we want to know,
but we don't have access to ask them uncomfortable questions. Yes,
like when you told keep it real with me, you
feel me and you know it took on you know
what I'm saying. That's and he respected that so much.

(36:43):
And then all of the cut scenes that people don't see, like, Bro,
when we would cut, they would just be like, Bro,
this interview so hard, you know what I'm saying, And
that would make me feel like, man, this is dope
that the culture is receiving because we brothers, right, we
all brothers. We come under the guise of the inner city, right,

(37:04):
and so for me to be able to reach here
and reach that like, nah, he he operating with some game, y'all.
You know what I mean? You know the thing is
you're gonna respect the game, but you respect the diligence, man,
You respect the sacrifice and see like me being like
I'm uncle O g no. So guess what, man, I
respect the grind, right, you understand I respect it. When

(37:25):
you get it out the mood, man, you feel me
feel better. Man, when you get it out the mud
come on. And then when you sit back and you
be like God, I thank you for every for everything,
as long as you acknowledge that, man, stay humble, man,
and stay grounded. Man. Guess what you ain't seeing what
God got for you? Man, Like I'm still following you

(37:45):
from a far you would have never even when you
hit him. I DM. I was like, Dawn, got to
put this one together for you know, like like a
lot of times when podcasts or people get at me,
whether it's text or through you know, social media. You know,
when I go to coin coin, got one question how
many followers they got? You follow and if the followers

(38:06):
ain't down? He do his little research. He said, yeah,
your Nate when I said, man locked that in part. Yeah,
you see what I'm saying, yeah, and that that was
like your platform was people people and now it's like
it's it's all incoming. Like I was telling our heart yesterday,
I'm like, I really don't be doing out out going

(38:26):
bookings no more. It's like all incoming, which is a
great sign for the business, you know what I'm saying.
But I still have specific conversations I want to have
with scientists and like I'm going somewhere else with this,
and I'm taking the culture with me. See that's the thing.
See you see you're you're You're taking us to things

(38:47):
we thought over, things that some kids probably dreamed around.
You follow what I'm saying. Like I used to have
a lot of respect for and still do for Frank
Ski when he had his his like like like the
aerospace Canty had, you know, like the ner City kids, Bro,
we just hear about that in school. They don't get
a chance to do that exactly. So so like when
you embark on your next levels, like you said, the

(39:08):
main thing, bro, listen, I'm taking the culture with me. Yeah,
it's called exposure, man. I'm exposing them to things, bro,
that they probably never even thought of. And then it
might be a kid to be like, you know what,
because I saw that or I had a chance to
hear about it to learn about it. I want to
dig into that, right, because that's how it's all one

(39:29):
hand washed the other both washed their face, you know
what I mean? That's that's how it is, so like
me doing this. I look in the game in South
Charlemagne and Joe Budden's and certain people doing the same,
but they missing this point. That's literally what birth this? Right?
When you talk about I'm like, yeah, but they ain't
saying this though? What about this? And then I would
shit back and wait a week ago bout it nobody

(39:51):
still ain't saying it too. Then it starts are you
peeping shit that they just ain't peeping because of where
you come from? Bro, that's real, you know what I mean?
So then I start ordered to speak on things in
the reaction of like, oh, it's other people feeling like that,
but it ain't other people saying talking about it. A
lot of times like this, just like I don't want
to get off subject. That's just like what the this

(40:12):
should do a sounderstand. I'm sitting here looking at certain
interviews and certain people that came from where me and
you from their head right, they're not even speaking on it. Bro,
you follow me, like, and it's clearly something going on.
This is sabotage, you know what I mean. It's like

(40:33):
they're trying to capplate the kid.

Speaker 4 (40:35):
Man.

Speaker 1 (40:36):
At the end of the day, he young, bro, he
was born with money, he into money. I get it.
But do you penalize him an X amount brother because
of that? Do you think it's that's what's going on
because they're flat because he's more so flashy young dude,
or is it Dion being his father and Don being
over his back? Like what do you think is causing

(40:56):
Shudir Sanders now to drop out of the draft? Man?
You know what, it's very disturbing, and you know, like
I ain't gonna put no cap on it. You know,
like it's it's clear cut racal, Bro, you understand. Yeah,
twenty twenty five. Man, the kid got the numbers. Bro,
you understand. It has a lot to do with his
last name. It has a lot to do with his flamboyancy.

(41:18):
It has a lot to do with his arrogance, you
know what I'm saying. And at the end of the day,
guess what, bro, what does that do with his numbers
on the field? Like, like you got we're in the
third round now, yeah, third round and he still ain't picked.
He's probably gonna go undrafted. Bro. Yeah, man, but you
know what that that that just seems like man like.

(41:39):
But that's like you said that, it definitely feels contrived.
It does not feel like an organic draft happening with
this man falling out of the first and second round.
How it don't make sense. And you know, the second
round they were saying they're gonna pick some quarterbacks, and
you had teams like New Orleans Pittsburgh go right past

(42:00):
you go right past him and need a quarterback. But
I just feel like, man, the folks say, hey, man, listen, collectively, yeah, collectively,
were moving on, We're moving you know what I'm saying.
And I really feel like, you know, he young, and
I hope him, pray he get a shot, man, and
I hope him pray that he used that you know
what he going through to fuel him. And you gotta remember, shit,

(42:20):
Tom Brady was a six round draft pick, right, but
that was based on skill set, and shit, that was
based on numbers. If we're basing this on numbers, he
shouldn't have five times exactly. So also I'm thinking, how
can the league view him dangerous?

Speaker 2 (42:37):
Right?

Speaker 1 (42:37):
Because what's the difference between and I don't mean skill set,
what's the difference between his flamboyance and his arrogance and
his style versus his father's when he came out, they
drafted his father with no problem. So is it the
father figure being there that is? You know what I'm saying,
because what I'm hearing from Stephen A. Smith and other

(42:57):
people are saying that they believe that. Teams are saying,
I like him, but I don't want to deal with
his father if he's not starting, if he's you know
what I'm saying, trying to tell me how to run
the organization. But they can also be an escapegoat. And
you know what, I really feel like it's an escapegoat
because at the end of the day, the Young wasn't

(43:17):
bigger than the NFL. You following that de Young can
speak what he want to speak. I remember Old Man
told me one day, you know, like it was players
that got in their feelings and quit. You know, I
ain't got to do this, so just walk off, you know,
at an early age. And old Man told me years ago.
Make no differen they're still gonna kick off at one
o'clock here Sunday. Man, They're gonna still kick off at
one o'clock every Sunday. You follow that fact and like,

(43:40):
like I have mixed emotions. Could it be Dion or
could it be his arrogance? But you know, at the
end of the day, man, I hope he get a chance. Man.
And it's it's it's really like it's a sad day
for us. Man. Yeah, yeah, like it it ain't even
covered up, man. And you know, like they keep making

(44:01):
a mahri of he had all this jury out, he
had you know, he had they invited him, he didn't.
He didn't go. He wanted to do it with his family,
had some all the teams and to see now, man,
we in the third round, and man, that means they
don't pick what sixty to sixty even if he get
drafted now still is a no. It's like a no draft.

(44:23):
You know what I'm saying for him and his status,
the damage is done already. Even if someone picks, like
like you said, like like they've they've they've smeared him
so bad and probably messed with his confidence. But he's
trying to And so that's what I appreciate about the
fathers being there, And of course we'll transition back into

(44:43):
our original conversation, but Dion being there, I'm seeing a man.

Speaker 2 (44:48):
This.

Speaker 1 (44:48):
I know he's shatow. I know he's shatterwed, he's he's
he's damnar broken, he's rattled. His confidence is shooking. I
know this. But what you see him doing, you know,
I thank God for everything. You know, God is the greatest.
That's his fast, that's his dadd And you know another
thing you got to realize. You got to realize Dione

(45:09):
death for his son. Right. But as a dad, den
feel this pain too, man, And y'all saying in my fault, Yeah,
you know what I'm saying, like like like like I
could imagine because see when I look, I'm like, how
would I feel like I'm hurt? You know what I'm saying.
But in front of my son and my other kids,
got means are people around the world. I got to

(45:30):
put on this son. But then how you think he
like when he goes close his door, he probably lay
up against it though, Like, man, that's what I asked.
That's why because you say you have strong faith. I
think this is a great question. It's like, is there
room for him to like God?

Speaker 5 (45:49):
Like?

Speaker 2 (45:49):
What is this?

Speaker 1 (45:50):
Like I've been here, I'm with my son. We got
genetics passed down and we know it is proven. We
put him on the proof mo in grounds and he
like took two programs to the next level. And they
telling me it's my fault in this. Like but guess
what I'm gonna say this, And God knows I don't
have no prejudice in me at all. Right, But it's

(46:12):
okay for Archie to do it for paying it, man,
but it ain't okay for Dia to do it for
shit do it? And his other son you follow me?
So so it's like it's like different stereotypes. You feel
what I'm saying, that's the heart light, Like think about it.
Just just think about what what what the Manning legacy
did to the to the NFL. So why the Sanders
legacy couldn't do it? You know why? It wasn't nothing

(46:33):
but to come of our skin, bro, Like let's call
an a you know what I'm saying. You know, like
I'm not gonna say like you got to realize, like
this kid grew up around it and like dr was
who he was and what they say that don't fall
far from right. So it ain't no this is passed
down at the end of the day, What does that
have to do with the talent on the field. Nothing

(46:57):
exactly nothing. And then if you do think dion is
it's nuisance or this person who would be a problem
if you if you draft his son, what do you
think he gonna be if you don't draft his son,
if he is dangerous or powerful or nuisance. I'm really
gonna be mad if y'all don't draft him. But but
you know what, let's go back. Let's show two scenarios.

(47:18):
See what y'all to understand. Negativity sell in America. If
it's negative about us, they gonna jump on. Let's do
this Travis Hunter number two, draft Pie right, everything should
have been dead aim on him, right, But y'all want
to talk about his daddy getting permission because he's on
probation to a ten. But Dionne ain't never left his

(47:40):
kids side ever, never, I mean being with him from
the time they came up until now. And now now
we want to use one of the largest platforms on
earth to try to tear down this family, the legacy
trying to build. And they work hard to let how
hard it is come on, man, and then at the

(48:02):
end of the day, you gotta realize at some point
then I got to go back to Colorado.

Speaker 2 (48:06):
Man.

Speaker 1 (48:06):
Yeah, and I know he damn she ain't trying to
take you to do it with him and give no job,
right you follow me, Man, But it's like that, if
they make him do that, that's come on, no team taking,
no team, no team. Man. And he's somewhat like the
quarterback coach for the Colorado team. Bro, that's gonna be

(48:28):
cutting print. But guess what see you see them them
boys who press them buttons. They already knew the outcome
with me and music. I was ryding somewhere and my
partner Sid look at this. I said, what a draft?

Speaker 4 (48:40):
Come on?

Speaker 1 (48:41):
I've been waiting on the job because honestly, I wanted
to see the young boy's life transform and and I
wanted to see him and his family. And they've done
all that work, and like he's just been missing. He
don't done the work and done put it in man.
And then on draft day they on call. Man, I said, ooh,

(49:01):
this is getting slipper. Man. Look at when when I
looked at one through ten, I started again concerned. Then Man,
I said it was over when he ain't go. When
he didn't go ten, believe that I said something going
on y'all listen, and I'm immedia. So I go to
calling around like, yo, this is gonna be a big story.
This before I even knew he ain't even gonna get
in the second round, just the top ten was a

(49:24):
story just that, you know what I mean. Yesterday I
think I was all in the first round. Woke up
the next day, grabbed my phone. Damn he didn't go
first round, So second round I didn't look. And when
I grabbed my phone, they say he still ain't went.
I say, second round. Then I start looking at it.
Got some more quarterbacks yesterday the second round. I was like, man,

(49:47):
they ain't studying that dude, and that's fucked up. Man.
Press family, Yeah, sure, prayers to him, man, keep you out,
head up, man. One thing about it. What God got
for you is for you, that's for sure. And again
I do see him trying to like be like unwavering
and stoic, but I know he broke it. That's a
lot on a kid, that's a lot on a grown man. Man.

(50:08):
You got to realize, Like, like I had to tell
one of my party break, I said, bring up right here,
young Yeah he young man, think about me? And he
was his age with what we had, we probably worse
than he was. Yeah, and think about this, like we said,
he got presentations at the house in New jer Bro.
That shit cut deep. I don't give it down. So
I interview Brandon Marshall. Okay, so Shakur Sanders didn't didn't

(50:35):
get drafted yet, but Brandon Marshall failed. Brandon Marshall had
his entire family suit of a draft day party. He
thought he was gonna go top ten. I think he
might have failed to. I don't know what number in
the teens or maybe the twines or something. And man,
he snapped. I mean, and that's what I mean. When

(50:56):
the father, it's the honest, the only reason why this
young man ain't showed emotional Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's the
only reason. Brandon Marshall went up there, whole family downstairs.
He trying to take it in that it ain't happening.
He go upstairs, my man, he breaks the break his hand,
break the mirror, crying for days and days because it

(51:20):
hurt him. But but like you said, when when when
the cameras ain't there, See, that's when that's when being
a father step in. Yeah. See, Prian probably pulling that
butt to the side. You know what I'm saying, praying
over him, you know, letting him know, hey, man, this this,
this is just a reminder of corporate America. You know, understand,
you know so. But but like you said, man, it's

(51:41):
a big difference in them fathers being there and not
being there, man, because that's the difference. He would have
been emotionally called out a team said something, you racist?
What he would have said something because guess what me
and you that did? Yeah that when I'm telling it
wasn't that why listen would have been done, flew the
cool would have been done, picked up the phone and
car record this over the phone. Man, Yeah, y'all nigga

(52:05):
trip it man, all ya, I got more yalls than him.
More it like you start putting his stats side. He
would have tried to rationally make his argument in public,
because if you not stoic, bro, and you don't have
any philosophy, you can be emotionally triggered easily. We just
also saw with Shannon Shaw right for him to come

(52:26):
out and say certain things like oh you they done
tricked you. You ain't supposed to come out and docks
the lady and say she like bro, just relax, let
them people handle it, and then you in media feed
that ship to somebody else on media. Pass it all, man,
you in media. But but like you said, it's like
I was. I was reading up on his situation, like

(52:49):
took me by surprise, man. And then not only that,
but check out how to play go just say, Tuesday shining,
shut up about the bark on a yeah, and Wednesday here,
come on your half. You see how they played the game.
Don't you see how it's set up. It's like, hey,

(53:10):
it's like, okay, her lawyer knew the play, he worked on,
so when that start, he knows we're gonna come in
and do this and and ruin the whole. I guess what.
That play probably off the table, off the table. And
not only did it ruin the future play that was
on the table, which is the honey Menion, it also
took me off ESPN. So it's the money up I

(53:31):
was currently getting all the way around. Man, he lost
all way around. You want the young white girl, man, listen,
bro like bro like, y'all got y'all preferences. But I'm
telling you, at fifty five, you think the nineteen year
old this is you got to be swift. Man. Know
what I'm saying. You ain't swift if you thinking I'd
have met this broad at the at the gym and

(53:53):
in two weeks I'm at her house choking out. You
know what I mean, b DSM And it don't work.
She's doing this with a motive, brother, Bro. You know
you know it's traps out there.

Speaker 2 (54:02):
Man.

Speaker 1 (54:03):
Man, And at the end of the day, like you say,
you fit the fine, you got to be looking like man,
that that that that's that's your daughter. Damn there brother,
you feel me. But once again, man, one thing I
was always taught, humble yourself or life would do it
for you. Man. You feel me a lot of revolve
and revolt back to being humble man, humility. Man, you

(54:24):
feel what I'm saying. You know, like dude do ever
since Cat did this thing, dude, dude just been different.
Whigo the small stuff? Man, You feel me like Cat
turned him up? Man after that, man, hold the mean
And like when I heard about it, I didn't pay attention.
When I read about it, I said, nineteen years. I
guess what he'll never recoup from that now because you

(54:47):
can't explain the age gap. It tells me that you don't.
You don't. What what that tells me is that you're
you're so you're such a slave to your crazy Yeah,
you know what I'm saying. And you can never fall
victim to your cravings, bro, because you're gonna always lead
you to a bad place. Right because you think I
don't want to, Bro, you might want to freaking do this,

(55:08):
but I got to do it a certain way. That's right.
And when you're doing BDSM and you worth something, yo,
I gotta have history with this girl. I can't just
meet it at the gym and thank in my mind
or I hit the jackpot game and it ain't how
this works. Then then you know, like I used to
tell a coin man, I tell my baby boy this
all the time. Understand this, man, decisions that you make

(55:32):
don't only affect you, man. Think about it. If you're
looking out for family members, Bro, I ain't telling my money.
They may have been working with you, they could have
been employed. You feel me actually doing actually working for
the money, not seeing you giving it to us. But
but but let's say say he got kids. Imagine the
impact that the kids have to deal with because of

(55:54):
these type of decisions. Yes, and now, man, when you
look at it, you just be my man. I'm like,
you know what I'm saying, and for real craziness. But
let's get back to Corn though. What when Quorn passes financially,
where is he at and how moving forward do the
family do you guys distribute the funds? Is there like

(56:17):
a trust that the kids pulled from? What is the
scenario for Corn in it's a stake. When Corn passed, man,
Corn was in great financial shape. Like I don't play
the radio with the money, man, right, you feel me?
Real structure, real discipline. O. Corn had good lord, have
mercy money what I call it? You feel what I'm saying.
As far as his finances, man, I know what Corn

(56:41):
would want, and Corn would say, Dad, make sure my
kids straight. You follow me. The numeroal number one priorty
in my life, man, is to carry out what Corn
would want for his kids. Man, which are my grandkids?
And follow me? Make sure they have trust, make sure
they have education funds. Make sure they understand you know

(57:04):
what they're about to embark upon. Make sure that you know,
hopefully they go to school, continue their education. But as
far as like the finances and stuff, man, his kids
are going to be in a great situation, great situation, right,
and so we saw also RP take off the un
times the demise of him. But his shit kind of

(57:24):
went into a probate or he didn't have a living will,
did Quorn have one? Didn't have a living will either,
But the way we had things structured is not going
to be as difficult as a task because at the
end of the day, it's for the kids.

Speaker 2 (57:39):
Man.

Speaker 1 (57:40):
You know what I'm saying. Corn had five kids, man,
Kwan didn't have a wife, he didn't have a will,
he didn't have anything in righting. Okay, but the reality
is his kids are his next a king and they'll
all makes sense. They'll make say, yeah, they're his next
a king. That makes sense. And Koran has kids from
seventeen to four years old, right, so he wanted a

(58:01):
couple of them should be getting old enough soon to
be able to kind of wreak some of the benefits
from what they father left them. You know what I mean,
as far as the education or whatever you have going
for him, no doubt. But damn man, so did the
state get involved with that? Does the state get to
take in because what I've heard about takeoff, what I've

(58:22):
read in reports online is that because he didn't have
a living will, I think millions of dollars ended up
routed to the state just out of some kind of
It was a percentage number, but because he was worth
so much that percentage, it wasn't a cap on the number, right.
So you would think if they say fifty percent, but
you're getting twenty five hundred, so send us to twelve fifty.

(58:43):
That's one thing. But if they say fifty percent and
the numbers twenty two million, you wouldn't think that the
state to take. Yeah, I don't let me tell you this,
and I'll be very honest and transparent. This is my
first time dealing with the probate court system. I'm learning
as I go. You follow me. I have counsel that
is expertise in this field, so I trust in them

(59:06):
to lead me and give me the best advice. But
one thing I can say, man like I took for granted,
you know what I'm saying, I'll keep it a buck.
Man Like, I thought my son would be burying me. Man,
you follow me. I never thought i'd see the day
that I'd be burying my son. Just keeping it real, man,
I thought I had time you follow me and realized

(59:29):
didn't have to have a lot of things in order.
But through my son's transitioning, which I like to call it,
I realized me, I got a lot of loose things
I need to tighten up too. Man, you follow me,
so things could have been tighter, but they're not bad.
You feel what I'm saying. And I know Quorn's main
part would be the kids and rest assure the kids

(59:52):
gonna be good, and that's the number one. That's the
number one for him, Like I know, like he want
to make sure they straight. And I think the things
that we're putting in place going through the COURTZ gonna
benefit the kids. And hopefully, man make him smile out
and say, pop, y'all did for sure show that's dope.
That's dope. I think with younger men and even with

(01:00:16):
black men, really men, nobody really wants to face the
mortality like and think about that death and how the
casket needs to be or how to finance and people
just like I don't want to talk about no depth.
It's like how niggas used to treat cancer or like
a nigga get a bump on their hand and man, man,
them over there. You know what I mean. It's like
they don't want to approach your head on. And that's

(01:00:40):
a critical mistake because you can be given, literally giving
away half of what you worked all your life. And
you know, I say this, man to not only entertainers, rappers, actors,
just every day people. Man, take time, man to get
your business in order. Man. Right now, I'm in the
process of doing a trust. You know what I'm saying,

(01:01:00):
a lot of times, Man, we don't be educated to
these things. You follow what I'm saying, and you know,
like sometimes like it takes things of this nature, you know,
in order for you to get yourself together, because like
I heard the trust, but even at fifty five, I
hadn't really looked into that. If I felt like I
got now, I felt like I had a wheel, everything

(01:01:21):
was cool. But na man, like a trust would make
things so much easier and the transition would be so
smooth for the family. And you know, it's just we
need to be educated on these things, man, because if
you ain't careful, like you said, brother, half or more
more of what you wait all your life will go back.
I read an article one time. I don't know how

(01:01:42):
true it is, and I'm gonna share it with you.
When Prince passed, they said that this man had had
a compound thirty six people to thirty eight people that daily. Supposedly,
and surprisingly the day he passed, he was there alan Supposedly, man,

(01:02:02):
he had won a lawsuit for so many millions of
dollars and got his publishing back right from from Sony.
We'll come to find out Sony had a one billion
dollar insurance policy on him. Bro, that's the thing he
wake up dead. Look, they get all the publishing back
and the billion dollar policy. Man. That what I'm saying.

(01:02:25):
Brou De rap nigga. Sometimes don't be knowing your label
might have a hit on you. That's how this spade
or spade. Sometimes you be worth more to somebody in
depth than you are alive. You know what I'm saying.
But I guess what we be so caught up in
the the jury, the car, the girls, and guess what
they'll put all that on you, man. Yeah, they'll get

(01:02:48):
you in position to get this other bag we want.
Come on, but listen, bro, this ship is f d chest.
I tell I tell people all the time, Man, this
game and what you think is cracked up to be man,
That's why they That was a great question for me
to you. It was like from losing your son on
him transitioning, Like how you view the rap game? Did

(01:03:09):
it swallow your son up? Did it kind of? You
know what I'm saying, Like I think, I think, I
think you know the success and the darkness they come
with it. Man, you follow me, you know, like I
ain't got a name name. Man, I was just thinking
about some of the big boys and what they at
and then where they are mentally mentally. That's why we

(01:03:31):
were talking, man, Like it's important man, to bring awareness
to mental health facts upon my son's that my son
was in a dark space. Man. I got texts in
my phone where I reached out where his brother Dre
was texting me concerned. Money Table was texting me concerned
people like, Man, that's your son, Hey bro, listen, porn

(01:03:51):
was thirty four, He wasn't fourteen, right, Yeah, As a dad,
as a parent, as a mom, it's only so much
you can do. Man, you follow me. But that's why
I'm telling you, like, try to get coin help, man.
But you know the first step is that me, I
got a problem. I need some help. It's hard to

(01:04:11):
admit that with all the goddamn money. Come on, man,
that be the thing too. It's like because when we
come up, when we look at a dope fiend or
a crackhead, it's the motherfucker out there. They can't get
it together. They So you don't really see yourself as
being cousins to that that, you know what I'm saying.
You don't see it because you're worth so much money.

Speaker 2 (01:04:32):
And so.

Speaker 1 (01:04:34):
Do you feel any guilt with that? Do people try
to pass guilt of like, yo, y'all kind of knew
he was on shit pills or whatever he was doing, Like,
do you feel any of that to a certain degree
as a human? I be lying if I say no.
But at the end of the day, and I can
say this, and this is not an excuse. My son
never indulged in drugs around me. You got to realize

(01:04:58):
I'm his dad, bro right, And I was a disciplinarian.
I was strict, structured, So certain things I didn't see.
I never saw corn popa peel in front of me.
I saw him smoke weed. I saw him. I saw him,
but I know, but certain things I never saw him do.
But in my mind I knew when he was higher

(01:05:20):
than normal, and I would address it with him. You
know what I'm saying. I used to tell him, like, hey, man,
whatever you're going through in life, you know I'm saying
in a peal about a look a boo man. I
used to tell him that you feel what I'm saying.
We used to have, you know, conversations. I wasn't scared.
I wasn't no yes guy around here. You follow me
because at the end of the day, man, I know
what hall at work and grind and discipline and put

(01:05:43):
my money up can do for me. So so I
didn't have to quote unquote kids saying yes Lord, and
that's what we love. And I can feel that from you,
but that's what we love even with my kids. I'm
gonna be like that forever, because you know, I'm big.
I'm the final boss lead. I don't give a damn
if you go pro I'm the final. And guess what,

(01:06:04):
Guess what we had to kind of understanding man, like
I don't care if you got a three hundred thou
chick man or this big cod worse. Guess what, man,
you always respect me and I'm gonna respect you. We're
gonna have a mutual respect for each other under staying
because at the end of the day, I used to
tell Corny my other k man, listen these conversations I had.

(01:06:25):
They not for me, Son, they for y'all. You feel
what I'm saying. So do I have Like in hindsight,
I be like, maybe I could have done more, But
at the end of the day, man, I did what
I could do. I don't have any ill feelings. I
don't have any remorse from my actions. Like I tell

(01:06:45):
people if you see me upset because I miss dude
in the flesh. I don't have a guilty conscience where
I could have withold a ship. No, none of that
because I gave him that in some of my life.
You feel what I'm saying. And I know he knew
that Bro. We used to and he would always bring
you up whoever. He would talk to you, if you
was a real nigga, he would talk about his daddy

(01:07:06):
some way in that conversation. That was my man. That
was my life. Like we had a bun Bro, Like,
like that's what I missed. Like I ride my bike
Bro bicycle coin pass. September the fifth, I stopped riding
my bike September the seventh. I just picked my bike
back up two weeks ago. You know what was the

(01:07:26):
hardest part of that ride for me not talking to
my son. We used to talk in the morning, like
you on that bike. Ain't yes, sir, But but we
had them talks and you know, he'd be like, Dad,
I love you, I appreciate you. You know what I'm saying.
So I missed that. You know what I'm saying. I missed.
I missed like I was sitting there watching a basketball

(01:07:47):
game the other night and went to pick up the
phone and calling bron Sometime. I think about in the
boxing game, these new up and coming boxes. I don't
know much about them. Yeah, Pring school me on all this, Man,
He he told me about these young boy. Dad, he
the truth. Man, tell me you feel what I'm saying.

(01:08:09):
I ain't know nothing about old school, but you are boxing.
But I love boxing, man, and he used to school
me on it. But but one thing I'm forever grateful for. Man,
we have some beautiful memories. Right you follow me. And
now that he's gone. Man, I didn't even know how

(01:08:31):
important pictures was until now, Man, you followed me. I
didn't realize how important that I love you as a
pop on won't. And I'm just letting you know I
appreciate you. Like sometimes bro Lay that I just read
them text messages. You follow me. It gives me a
sense of him still being sure like bro Like, and

(01:08:53):
I say to our people, Man, pay attention to your
loved ones. Man, follow me, even if it's uncomfortable. Man,
you know, sometimes you gotta have the uncomfortable conversations to
get comfortable. Man. That's in fact, because guess what, man,
I say this man till my last days, this chair,
I'm sitting there along. I don't wish this's on nobody.

(01:09:16):
It's rough. I mean, I'm so much saying, brother, man's rough.
A few days. We're gonna be eight months in brother. Listen,
when I was watching my grandson go to the prone
the other day and I was looking around and Corn
wasn't there. Bro, I'm fooling myself, you know what I'm saying.

(01:09:37):
Coin at a show, I'm trying to psych myself out.
You know what I'm saying, And it's life. I thank
the fans so much, bro Like. I honestly I didn't
know the love to respect that was displayed for my son. Yeah,

(01:10:05):
I was in oh man, Yeah, I was in a legend. Bro,
you raised a legend. Bro. That boy, that boy one
of the most influential And I don't I'm telling you this, bro,
that man was one of the most influential artists of
this generation. That sound was not the sound of music.
Them dudes single handedly ushered in this melody type of flow.

(01:10:30):
And then on top of that, you could tell you
was around because when he got into it, will fly
with the business. Hey, we stopped his hold on. That's
how you can tell somebody is installing game in this
young man. You know what I'm saying. And so I'm
telling you, bro, you did a great job with that boy.
Man a legend. I appreciate you've done that, Bro. And

(01:10:52):
when you lay down, know that I did that one.
You see what I'm saying. I did that one. Dog,
You know what I mean. Always that come from loom, Bro,
that come from me. Bro, You've done that one. I
appreciate that. I'm gonna say something. You just spoke on
the t ig litigations and stuff, right, must shout out
fly again. Man. When when I was making arrangements for

(01:11:15):
my son, Fly met me over at the church going
over numbers and stuff, and I got ready to go
pay for the church venue. I walked out in the hallway.
Flyers already in the hall. I said, where you going?

(01:11:36):
He said, I got this man, you go back in
there and handle the rest of it. I want to
shout out, fly Man, Fly before Corn passed and after
Coin's transition, Man, fly, call me check on my mental
You know what I'm saying, how you feeling? You know
how you day going? And you know we developed a

(01:11:58):
great respect and friendship for each other. Man. And you
know I told him, Man, I appreciate you know the
chance you took on my son. I know things took
off fast, and you know we were overwhelmed, but you know,
through maturity man and some praying, like we overcame that obstacle. Man.
And I shout out because dude stood in the paint

(01:12:19):
and went and spent the bag with me on my
son's homegoing. Man, And that's that's we gotta committed. Salute
it like you got to call an a SA center
spade a spade, you know, like you said, these labels
make millions of dollars off these kids, but won't even
turn around and send you a bucket of chicken when
something happened, and when I say flowers there the whole

(01:12:40):
way with me, Man, making sure I was good, you know,
and like I bared a lot of my family, Bro,
so I know how the process go. But just when
he was a bit overwhelming and Monday Day, they and
Fly they were all instrumental and and in bringing this
home going together for me because I wasn't in a

(01:13:01):
space mentally to do it really. But it's like, like, hey, man,
we know what Corn deserved. Corn's homegoing wasn't for flash
or nothing. My son earned that homegoing. Man, you follow
me and shout out to the team man for assisting me,
Bro in one of the darkest times of my life. Man,
burying son is so so so traumatic. Did with the

(01:13:28):
turnout at the funeral, did you feel like that enough
of the industry, the enough enough of the rappers and
stuff supported Coorn like they shouldn't?

Speaker 2 (01:13:39):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:13:40):
I mean afterwards I paid attention to it, but that day, Bro,
I was so out of it it didn't matter. And honestly,
when I made the announcement that we were going public
with the funeral, it wasn't for the industry, man, It
was for those fans, man, that allowed my son to
be in places and spaces only he would have dreamed

(01:14:04):
of being.

Speaker 4 (01:14:05):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:14:05):
I have a big heart toward the fans. Man. I
don't get into the industry. Cats you follow me because
it ain't like if it was somebody I was cool with.
You know what I'm saying. But see that's part of
what had corned in the dog space. It's this industry
and them, not them. Not when he was piping hot,

(01:14:26):
niggas was hitting him and he'll come right. He would
come and always service some or help him when he could.
He did talk to me about he had a time
where he kind of did get an arrogant bag and
we were like, y'all, nigga ain't. But for the most part,
Bro would help other rappers. And so when I speak
about the industry, it just also echoes the fact that

(01:14:48):
it's just so fake in this industry, Bro, where I
can give you a hit five years ago, and then
because we ma ain't talking eighteen months, you won't even
check into my front runer. Right. My point that you know,
it's a scenario where is like loan if you and
Mike going through it, that ain't got nothing to do
with Cory and Mike. Ma'am understand that. But but but

(01:15:10):
me being the man I am, I'm gonna come in
and try to help you and fix it instead of
put few on it. You fell. What I'm saying, we
got enough of that going on?

Speaker 2 (01:15:20):
What what? What?

Speaker 5 (01:15:21):
What?

Speaker 1 (01:15:21):
Where are the people that say, hey, man, let's sit
these brothers down and and and you know, you know
what the elephant in the room be Man, when we're
doing that, we leave so many bags on the table. Man,
follow because of attitude, because of arrogance. You know, like, Bro,
you don't never sit down and think about where you
came from. You don't think about when you ain't have

(01:15:42):
what you all to pot the piece in or wanted
to throw it out, and man, when you can late
I use example like this here. Man, I never met Kobe,
I never met Shaq. Rest in peace Kobe. From what
I understand, they didn't get along. But they want championships together, man,
or have me. They want championship together. Man. And at

(01:16:03):
the end of the day, where does the when does
the division stop? So you basically what you're saying is
you believe because of the thug and quair and ship
it affected how it affected corner. Industry, it affected corner.
I can only speak on corn. Corn wouldn't talk to
me about it. But I know my son, Bro, it

(01:16:26):
had a profound effect on his everyday life. Man, I
know it did. Like like, let's let's call an as
a center spade a spade. Let's not you know, let's
not play like sugar Colton. Nobody learned from there. At

(01:16:47):
the end of the day, I lost a son, Bro,
these kids lost a father, This mother lost a son,
this brother lost a brother, This uncle lost a nephew. Man,
you follow me. So sometime I'd be like, man, I
wish she would have just went on with something else, man,
because you know what, there's a mean industry where it's

(01:17:09):
like one day they praised you and the next day
you ain't nothing. Because I'm telling you, man, And that's
part of success is backside, is that it'll take you
so far up that when it decides to drop you,
it's a long way down, you know what I'm saying.
So if you fall off a couch, you may not

(01:17:30):
break nothing, but if you fall off a building, you
may die. So as high as the industry brings you up.
When I was talking to corn, I was like, Yo,
I know how you feel because you still rap good
as a motherfucker, you still fly as a motherfucker. You
still got the cars. But these folks is trying to
act like your music, ain't they trying to? Like no,

(01:17:52):
look you they box you out. Man. They count my
nigga like, let's let's just keep it a buck. They
count for naked man. And you know, if Jada Kiss
got a song, say it's a nigga better than Joy
and he just didn't get that break mall you feel me.
That's like sometimes I was listening to coin Me the
last night. Man' not gonna tell me that one of
the most lyrics niggas you come across. Man. Facts. But

(01:18:16):
but but it's like, you know, I got to be
cool with but I don't want him mad with me,
So I can't come over there. I can't, you know.
But but but like at the end of the day, man,
I can't undo what's been done. You follow me. I
don't have no ill feelings, own hole, no grudges, man,
I just know. Man at the end, man like being honest,

(01:18:36):
that shit affected my son. He did, Man, he's human
And coin coin one coin one, no hard, cold nigga.
He wasn't raised like that. Bro good nigga. He was
emotional creature. Man. You feel me, and no matter how
he put on to me, you I can imagine bro
with him by himself, like like he the artist. If

(01:18:58):
we see it, imagine he's saying it twenty teams exactly,
and then you gotta think he looking at it like
not only did did me and Thug not continue our relationship,
but nigga, all these niggas out wire fucking wish start,
the producers, the engineers, the viti, the DJ hold on
wall like and that ship was affecting him. Broke. I

(01:19:20):
talked to him about it, and I'm like, man, how
do you get how do you continue to push on that?
My rapping ain't I'm still one of the best rappers, man,
do you know? Just keeping it a buck?

Speaker 4 (01:19:32):
Man?

Speaker 1 (01:19:32):
Since we having this intimate conversation, where were times we
as a team carried that boy when he had a
strength to carry hisself. We believe in him when he
didn't believe in hisself. They beat confidence, like when he
just was like, man, I'm good chasing this ship. But

(01:19:54):
it was like man like mane te dre me. They
they even fly you. You know what I'm saying, Man,
we still believe in you. Man. We ain't gonna like
like one thing I can say, Man, And I say
this not because I was a part of it, but
I used to tell a Coin all the time.

Speaker 2 (01:20:10):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:20:10):
One thing, You're gonna have a profound appreciation for your team, man,
because there was time, bro, we wanted it more than Coin, man, Like,
like listen, if he didn't have the support system he had,
twenty fourteen could have been I mean, twenty twenty four

(01:20:33):
could have been way earlier.

Speaker 2 (01:20:35):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:20:35):
You follow me because like like like holding them together. Yeah,
like we held him down, Bro, We held him down
man even today, Like Bro, we say knocked down drag
outs with Buddy Man because he was in a dog space,
you understand. And then like he would always say, y'all
don't know what I go through. Y'all ain't the artist. Hey, Man,
we wit you regardless, We wit you regardless. But it's

(01:20:58):
just like you in your situation. You probably our time.
You're like, man, you know what, but that shit with
cold how niggas played this right? Yeah? And I can
understand coin mentality towards certain things. But as a father,
I'm going with you through the end of time. You
feel me. As your manager, I'm gonna be there to

(01:21:20):
support you and to put you in positions. Man. But
it was a lot of time man Like mentally, he
just wasn't there. Yeah, they got him. They got your confident.
That's why I try to tell niggas like that. If
they get your confidence. Yeah, we were just talking about that,
we should do it them like you see that that
that's a valuable word. So it's like when we go

(01:21:42):
back to our generation and our people. Man, it's okay
to raise your hand and say I need some help.
Like I told you, man, I'm fifty five years old.
I just raised my hand and said I need some help.
I see a therapy, is man. I told one of
my partners, I see a therapist. Bro, you do, I

(01:22:05):
ain't gonna tell me. I don't care who you tell. Man,
I'm not embarrassed. You understand the nigga who ain't acknowledging
should be embarrassed. Well, this is like what we're saying.
When you are a nigga that's taking in so much,
you have to dump it out somewhere. Nigga, what you
do with your trash, anything you pile up, you got
to go get rid of that something. That's you know

(01:22:26):
what I'm saying. You know, like my mind setting now, man,
is that like I got to release I got, I got,
I got to get some of this off me. Man,
and going through therapy. It's before Look, it's before corn right,
I'm talking about childhood stuff that made me who I
am today. You know what I'm saying. At some point, man,

(01:22:46):
you got to learn how to let go. Man. You
you got to get off your dad. It wasn't that
you feel me. You got to get off somebody else
had to raise you. You because guess what you do?
You start caring that you affected innocent people that ain't
got to do cut it. So it's like, Man, I'm
gonna tell you one of my biggest advocates for therapy, man,

(01:23:07):
but mon taping on me for a few reals. Man, Yeah,
shut out kicked that high level ship like that. You know, Hey,
bro go see a therapist. Bring you got a lot
on you. Yeah. And one day, man, I just said,
what did you find your therapy? Said like, you just
found my therapist through my insurance provider. Through my insurance
provider and you know, I was kind of queery at first,

(01:23:30):
little nervous, didn't know what to expect. You know, it's
keeping some stuff. And I just told them one that's
saying I don't really not telling you the truth. You're
here to help me exactly, So man, I just start
pouring in. It's dope. I see I see her once
a week, man, and like I look forward to it now.

Speaker 2 (01:23:45):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:23:45):
You know, like like as you dumping the rest of
the week, you take it in. I'm taking it and
it's like it's like, man, it's like anything else man,
pressure bus pipes, man, you know, high blood pressure, alsus
and you know stuff. Man. A lot of that come
from word ration. Man. You know, not not confide. You
gotta find somebody to confide here. Man, gotta dump this.
I don't care who you was. Man. Like, like I

(01:24:07):
read one time, dude say, if your car check in,
you're like, come on, you take you to the shop.
If your chest started her, you go to the doctor. Well,
if your mental ain't right, white can't go get yourself here.
They think your mental can't be broken, but it canst man,
I mean September the fifth, twenty twenty four transition, My
whole life. Man, My whole life took a turn. And

(01:24:31):
guess what, Bro, that ain't that ain't for the week? Man,
Now big journey to be on. Man, you know what
I'm saying, like like through my therapist. Man, like, Bro,
you not go before I start talking about Man, I
used to be at the cemetery sell eight times a month.
I'm talking about man walking in this mausoleum, keeping it
real with you. Man walking in this mausoleum, walking up

(01:24:56):
the corn space and when I touch it, it move
a little bit, right, brother, so hurt want to just
snatch that mother? Come on, man, I just just want
him to say, pop, let's go. You feel me like,
but but but but you can't even do it all
that and you still got five grandkids. You still got

(01:25:16):
businesses oversea, you still got Corn's career, you still got
you know, projects you're thinking about. You got publishing stuff
you're dealing with. You're dealing with your last project you dropped.
Then you got grandkids. Then you got your life. Man. Yeah,
and imagine that if you don't ever get to dunk,
imagine what you gonna take in and went and took in.

(01:25:39):
That's your hid, right, that's a lot to just that's
that's a lot to put on a mother fun and
then you leave out of there and never dump that
and again them all. Brother, listen, guess what you're gonna do.
You're gonna start blowing on innocent people. Ain't got nothing
to do with it. Last Saturday, last Friday, my oldest
grandson prom. That's the happiest I've seen that kid since

(01:26:02):
his dad left out. You spent all day Friday getting
him ready for the prom. Then Saturday Corn got a
ten year old son, had a birthday, he turned eleven.
Then Sunday I went to church with my grandbaby to surprise.
So you think about, brother, that's a whole weekend consuming
with grandkids. You follow what I'm saying, and then at
the end of the day, you still trying to find

(01:26:22):
some peace. When I see my grandson Royal spinning image
of coin man spinning Ima hanging with me. About a
month ago. He was laying over there on the sofa.
I said, roy you sleep, He said, no, I'm on
the phone, Papa. I look at him, man, he bowed
up in a not just like his dad maun rhythm.
And I look at him sometime and I said man,

(01:26:43):
you raising corn all over again another time. And then
when I see this kid, he looking so sad, I'm like,
let's sit down and talk. Man, what's wrong. Papa just
missed my dad. That's a lot. That's just that alone.
Guess what he got four more things missing their dad.
And guess what, Loune, I'm missing their dad. Whole family

(01:27:08):
just bro still in disbelief. Man, still in shock, still
in denial. You following them saying yeah, like man, I
sat with Ricky, Ricky smiling he lost his son. Yes, yes, man,
it's like a salute the rick Man And like he

(01:27:31):
got a chap in his book said God will give
you double for your trouble. And he was talking about
a scenario he lost his son and God revealed him
that he had two twins. Didn't even know they were his. Wow,
went outside one day. That just hollered, he said, pertaining
to his son. And the test results came back them

(01:27:53):
two twins was his. That's crazy. But like you say, God,
that that that that that rings true. You know what
I'm saying. But I wonder It's like I mean, I
guess time and and and I just don't know how
I don't have the words to make it through that
stuff you never have, you know, and even through therapy. Man,

(01:28:15):
just keeping it the buck with you. And it's still
a fear that I have, I'll be honest, one of
my biggest fears now. Man. For me, it's more than
myself to death. Man, I'm just being honest. I'm transparent man.
That like, Bro, Like, how do you move on with

(01:28:45):
something you've been attached to for thirty four years? And
I'm not talking about no no, no dropping And Dad,
I've been with Corn from his birth room to the graveyard. Man,
you feel me, like, Bro, We've had our ups and downs.
We guess what it's my son. Yeah, I got texts
I read probably two three times a month. And and

(01:29:08):
and my my my suffering and my grief is different
because I can play a song and hear my son
you know what I'm saying, or you can cut up.
That's why I took a break from Instagram. People were
showing me so much love and I'm grateful for that,

(01:29:29):
but it but it slows down my heeling process. And
not only are me and my family hurting, whereas people
across the United States hurting because of my son's transition.

Speaker 2 (01:29:44):
And you be like.

Speaker 1 (01:29:48):
God, I thank you in spite of man, I always
thank God because I know that Quorn was blessed. Man,
I know he was gifted, you know what I'm saying.
And to see the people well that he has touched,
now it touches me man like brou out at about.
I went to get a tagg the other day, when

(01:30:08):
then I have to pay the money, got the tag,
the lady said, you strong. I said, excuse me, I
know who you was. She said you strong? I said,
you know me. She said you coined daddy. I said yes, ma'am.
I said I'm not strong. I said, just appear that way.
I said that. Man up, there's my strength, right, I said, ma'am.

(01:30:29):
There are days well i'd be so weak. Man, I
don't know what to do. But doing them times man
like God stepped in and he reminds me that coins
time down here was complete. Man, his job was done.

(01:30:50):
And they go back to a sermon I heard years ago.
It's a palazer here, ain't Timothy Fleming? His son got
killed in a car accident. You know what the sun
he preached the sermon. You know what the sermon was?
What now I know how God feels losing his son.
And now I know, man, And not only that, I

(01:31:14):
got a brother that was traveling with corn and stuff.
I lost him eighteen months for Corn pass Damn my
baby brother. Yeah, so it's like damn. It's like yeah,
it's like RP to meat man, Like I raised him
as my son when Corn first started, I put him

(01:31:34):
with corn. He was my eyes for me, feel me,
he was my eyes.

Speaker 2 (01:31:39):
I know he.

Speaker 1 (01:31:40):
Genuinely loved his nephew, and his nephew loved him. You
follow what I'm saying. So I lost him. Then my
middle brother had a massive stroke before, probably a month
or so before my baby brother passed. And the year
and a half later, I lose my son. And that's

(01:32:02):
what you mean by mourning yourself to death. And this
is a very important conversation, bro, because you a lot
of people, you know, they say death come in through reason,
all these different things. So what happens is you can
find yourself in their feedback loop of just sad, sad,
sad sad. You got to intentionally put some happy in. Now,

(01:32:24):
there you go, but then what is happy? Now? Now?
I got to redefined happy and then you know what,
like right now in my life. Happiness or a smile
is temporary right now, man, you follow me, I need
to learn how to get back to some permanency. You
feel it's temporary right now because I'm always reminded that.

(01:32:46):
You know, me and Coryn used to say we always
got so we all we got and he gone, right,
what do we get? What do I gat? Now? You
feel so? But but I think it's about perspective. So
and it's gonna take time. It ain't something you're gonna
be able to do. Just like all right, I'm changing
how I'm viewing this, But at some point the rubber

(01:33:11):
has to meet the role where we go from missing
him to celebrate right where It's like when I do
get a tag from a fan, it don't hit me
while I make me missing, it makes me remember celebrate
that he done that. We done that, leader salute, We
done that, you know. But that's gonna take time. But

(01:33:32):
you have to be intentional with trying to like curve that,
you know what I'm saying. Mother, got to curve that
because you're gonna have an emotion when you see him
for the rest of your life. But you gotta choose
which path do I need to go with this or
can I dictate it right now? It's too strong, it's overpowered.
I can't even dictate it the other way, but any

(01:33:54):
of it. When I get that opportunity to start seeing
my son and instead of mourning, didn't him celebrating Because
God does have a final sake, you know what I'm saying,
you know, Like, and one of the things, like I think,
what keep me going is that I'm reminded this is temporary.

(01:34:14):
I understand we get caught up in and thinking this fall.
And I'm a firm believer that sometimes God come get
certain people to get our attention to let you know,
get comfortable out of here on earth. Yes, because this
ain't your final destination. And like I said, I know
I see him again, And like I had a little
science man, Like I woke up one morning, I looked

(01:34:35):
up and I just saw him smiling. Bro, you feel me?
So like I get Science to here in a better place.
And when he transitioned and I had to go to
the hospital and I saw him, it was a peace
on him I hadn't seen in a minute. Man. Yeah,
you know what I'm saying. So so like I see

(01:34:58):
some light at the end of the time, right you
follow first it was real dog and it's hopefully you'll
you'll continue to walk towards the light and it gets
brighter and brighter, you know what I see? Like, I
want to use the platform, man, to just help others.
You feel what I'm saying. Like my partner said, Bro,
what you're gonna do next? I said, Bro, I just
want to help others, man. I just want to bring

(01:35:23):
mental awareness, depression, you know, things a month, let our
men know it's okay to discuss them things. And you
ain't got to discuss some on platform. Just talk to somebody. Dump.
You've got to dump this ship because, like you said,
or not, man, she's gonna explode one day. Man, And
and nobody's excluded from that. Nobody. I want to ask

(01:35:45):
you this too. Didn't you ever meet young thugs? Assass

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