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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Man, father is such a good man. He understands he's
sitting there on team. Don't let it break through. That's
what they trying.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
That's what they're trying to make you do, nigga. That's
gonna make your story that much better.

Speaker 3 (00:11):
And they warmed my heart to see that little I said, Man,
he can't be he not trip.

Speaker 1 (00:15):
But guess what they told me. That's a black father
in his life right there doing that. If it wasn't
a black.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
Father breaking ship man, because the black man he was
on twitch, he was. He was showing himself the whole time.
Crazy story too. I swear to God, oh we own
this because made me think about something. Speaking to Rich
the kid, mind you. Rich used to be for me
heavy back in the day. And ship though, and my

(00:44):
DJ was DJ Derel, And then it's like I went
to jail and I ain't gonna lie. Rich the kid
came in and swooped him up under me like I
went to jail. Rich stole he from me. Had the
same manager at the time. And ship though, so it
ended up coming up about like shit that ship led
to one thing to another. I'm I seen Pluto he

(01:05):
was on he was on U stream. He was on
U stream one day, that white string U stream.

Speaker 1 (01:10):
Hell yeah, and if you.

Speaker 4 (01:13):
Ain't talking no dough, then I ain't interested. Look, they say,
this guy's isn't limb, and I'm going farther than that.
She keeps blowing on my phone, so I called her mama,
come and get.

Speaker 1 (01:20):
Your daughter back.

Speaker 4 (01:21):
They wanna little better than get them boys wagon what
little one? And I bosh your brain, but get all hat.

Speaker 1 (01:28):
They said, this guy's limb. I'm going father.

Speaker 4 (01:31):
You can try to, but can't kill ummy bad. I
just bought a nigga life as in did decide talk
him about that?

Speaker 1 (01:37):
All you leads the reason you broke.

Speaker 4 (01:38):
You don't know how the horse.

Speaker 1 (01:39):
I don't try it ain't no.

Speaker 4 (01:40):
I'mna stress something red run, red dye, hit the block
one twelve, come down. You know I'm tucking to the bullets,
ash for a bullet because he never felt one, sticking
to the waters and nail guns, riding with my dollars
trying to nail something.

Speaker 1 (01:53):
And do you and he.

Speaker 2 (01:54):
Got your butts walk them to us up there podcast,
I am your active and attractive host. You know the
vice man today, I got a young I've been wanting
to speak to a young hustler. I think his not
to riety, need to be risen. He needs five stars.
If you ask me, you dig what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (02:11):
I got dope, boy. What's going on?

Speaker 1 (02:12):
Bro?

Speaker 2 (02:12):
So with you? Man, Man, I'm cool and brother having
a good time down through here. You just got back
from LA. We were talking about the marathon Broke. Yes, Lord, I.

Speaker 5 (02:21):
Appreciate you for show. Bro. I appreciate you stopping buying
with my game.

Speaker 2 (02:25):
For sure. You have me for sure. You know it's
love with you. I were telling you I listened to
your ship and I've seen the growth. I've seen the transition.
I see the different style, the versatility. What's that word? Versatility?
The versatility?

Speaker 1 (02:41):
Right?

Speaker 5 (02:41):
I see that right?

Speaker 2 (02:42):
And they gonna laugh because I rarely stumble home words.
That's very funny, but but yeah, I see the versatility.
So I celebrate you, Bro, even if you don't know that.
Like I'm one of them that behind the scenes. I
just celebrate me. I'm like Bro, I would do whenever
I can get a chance to get around like, yeah,
I appreciate that, bro, shape that how did marathon burger taste?

Speaker 1 (03:02):
Bro?

Speaker 2 (03:03):
I ain't gonna bath like and I wasn't even just
saying that just to say it just because it's the marathon. No,
that ship really is the best burger that I didn't had.
I don't want to say in my life because I can't,
but that I can remember, especially like it's considered like
a fast food type of thing for it to taste

(03:26):
that good because they use that Waguo beef.

Speaker 1 (03:29):
That ship is perfect and them wings broke.

Speaker 2 (03:31):
They got like this barbecue sauce, but they barbecue sauce
is like spicy and ship and they put the lemon
pepper sprinkles on that.

Speaker 1 (03:38):
That ship was good as bro.

Speaker 2 (03:40):
I gotta get out there, Bro, I'm gonna be out
there for BT. I gotta Oh yeah, no, you're gonna.
I got to you went two days in a row.
Salute the Sam saying the show. For sure, I think
it's a difference your RP marathon continues.

Speaker 1 (03:55):
For sure, it's a difference with them burgers.

Speaker 3 (03:57):
Man, When you know, we come from nothing, so when
we think of a hamburger, we tend to think of McDonald's.
It's different levels, man, This here is a totally different level.

Speaker 5 (04:07):
Even Jelly Roll got a spot in Nashville.

Speaker 2 (04:10):
I just went to and he got one of them
kind of yeah, yeah, yeah, you know he from Now
I'm gonna give me about it on there too. You
know they think niggas can't have nothing down there till
I be next.

Speaker 5 (04:20):
Down there with Yes, Lord, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (04:22):
They can't put you know so, But Jailer Rod got
a mean burger too, But I'm gonna go get that
Marathon burger Man.

Speaker 2 (04:28):
Salute to Black Sam and salute to Nip Man. We
got a lot of love and.

Speaker 5 (04:32):
Respect for you.

Speaker 2 (04:34):
Did you ever get a chance to work with Nip? No,
I ain't even got a chance to meet him. Actually
he was just one of them guys though, Bro, Yeah
for sure. Did you ever you listen to them interviews
or what did you take from something that Nip may
have gave a coach man? See, I'm a fan of
I'm a fan of Nip because of how we talk,
how we speak. That's even like similar to what I

(04:56):
tell people all the time about Like people, if you
look at me and pay attention like what I post,
might really think that I'm just love Tupac. Yeah, I
love Tupac, not even necessarily because of his music. I
do know his music, like I know certain songs, but
I just wasn't like the super Tupac fan because you know,
I didn't really grow I mean, I grew up listening

(05:18):
to Tupac, but it's just hearing it. I grew up
listening to fifty cent and Nigga like that until you
get what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (05:23):
So, but I know the song.

Speaker 2 (05:24):
Yeah, but I'm a fan of how that Hawk and
you see how smart he is and shit, and then
on top of what he stands for, like he really
standing for principles, like he don't he don't bend or
break for nobody, like he not foeing for nothing like
so same thing with Nip, Like I didn't really like
get to tap into his music like that, but I

(05:46):
love when he speaks type shit.

Speaker 5 (05:47):
He gets me. Bro. He was full of gain, He
was full of game.

Speaker 1 (05:51):
And sometimes man, I tell niggas right, it's in.

Speaker 2 (05:53):
The books even for me, like I read every day
like every day because especially for us, right, people are entertainment.

Speaker 1 (06:01):
Me in particular, I speak for a littmit. So it's
very important.

Speaker 2 (06:04):
That's why I stumbling on that word was funny to
me because it's very important that I'm clear concise, and
it's crazy to say that because I've been.

Speaker 1 (06:12):
I've been. I've been reading a lot lately too.

Speaker 5 (06:13):
Yeah, what you reading right now?

Speaker 2 (06:15):
I've been with that fiftieth Law. Yes, lord, I read
like the forty eight Laws of Power when I was
in jail and ship like that. Then I just got
the uh this ship called mastery. Yeah, I just got
that again into that.

Speaker 5 (06:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (06:28):
And so I tell people like, I'm gonna start doing
it on my Patreon with my with my because right
when we did when we do what we do, you
have fans, you have customers, you have viewers, you have
like there's a lot of different ship and you got
to figure out a way to serve all of them.
I'm gonna do a book club kind of thing where
I take sections of them books and we might go

(06:49):
do one chapter and just chop it up about it, right,
you know, I'm talking about as.

Speaker 1 (06:52):
A whole, like a zoom real ship.

Speaker 2 (06:54):
Yeah, like that ship and when you read them type
of books like the Robert green Oh.

Speaker 1 (07:01):
With his books. I just ordered like five of them,
Holiday Wanting and ones too.

Speaker 3 (07:05):
I gotta tap into listen, this is a book I'm
reading right now because I'm getting so much goddamn money
that I can get full of myself, like and everybody
kissing my ass and shit, right, you know how it
go when they thank you this and that, right and
and for me not as an arrogant man, I'm saying,
and I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (07:23):
That the position come with a level of fake shit
that I got.

Speaker 3 (07:28):
To learn to deal with. So I'm reading a book
how Ego is the Enemy and my from rying holiday. Man,
it is helping me so much, bro, because I used
to be offended right coming from where I come from.

Speaker 1 (07:40):
It's like, man, they quit asking me why that.

Speaker 2 (07:43):
Shit will really tea It'll show you, like cause one
of the biggest things about being in this shit, like
like you said, though I used to dealing with all
this fake shit and all this shit, This shit'll teach
you how to deal with people without even It'll be
like you have to understand people. When you understand exactly
how a person is, you won't even care exactly like

(08:05):
and also and I already understand.

Speaker 3 (08:08):
Exactly and also the ego is the enemy. Get what
they tell me though, it's say, this is just the
life of kings. And then it'll give you example after
example after example of people lying and stealing from Kings,
and so what happens is you have to change your perspective.

Speaker 1 (08:26):
You can't.

Speaker 2 (08:27):
You can't gonna happen exact. I don't give a fuck
who you is. Everybody go through it, sack, everybody go
through it. So you just have to your mind gotta
be there.

Speaker 3 (08:36):
You just got to say, listen, I can't cry that
it's gonna rain today.

Speaker 5 (08:40):
I pack an umbro. I gotta prepare for the rain.

Speaker 3 (08:44):
Verse man, goddamn it's raining out him what that don't
do nothing to the situation. So basically it was saying, Yo,
this is the life of Kings.

Speaker 2 (08:51):
You don't just get the big car, the nice house
to change, the jewelry, the women and the good lifestyle.
You get the liars and the faith people and the
snakes and the betrayal.

Speaker 1 (09:02):
All of that go with this lifestyle. And mine is
worth mine, it's worth.

Speaker 2 (09:07):
It's worse because you're gonna have to deal with that,
regardless whether you broke a rich broken in the hood
right now, still dealing with the same fake ass ship
exact snake ass exactly done.

Speaker 3 (09:18):
They're worse exactly because you can't. You can't really escape
from it. Betray you still got to see him next week,
you betray me, They got to go home.

Speaker 4 (09:27):
You.

Speaker 2 (09:27):
I ain't never got to see you ever again unless
I choose to exactly, so.

Speaker 3 (09:31):
At least I can separate myself, push a room between
me and the people I identify as suckers.

Speaker 1 (09:36):
That don't mean weapons won't be.

Speaker 2 (09:38):
Formed right like the words say, yeah, it won't prosper,
but it may be formed right.

Speaker 1 (09:43):
So they may send a sucker. He'll never prevail exactly.

Speaker 5 (09:46):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (09:47):
That's just how this go.

Speaker 2 (09:48):
Man got to be all the way on his p's
and q's, Eddie Ford Iever it coming every way at
all time. Ain't nothing ain't gonna see coming. I'm always
over prepared, so I'm never under prepared. So if it
do happen, I'm prepared. If it don't happen, good, Yes, whatever,
that's I take everything in life.

Speaker 1 (10:07):
What what you've been working on right now?

Speaker 2 (10:10):
Man, I've been seeing you pop out man doing a
lot of music, and again I'm feeling it. I also
want to get into some of your partnerships, some of
the things you've done alone.

Speaker 3 (10:20):
No before we even do that. Coming from Cleveland. How
many artists.

Speaker 2 (10:25):
I know it's you and bow Wow, but who else
has came from Cleveland?

Speaker 5 (10:30):
Is he from that?

Speaker 1 (10:32):
Nigga just said you and bow Wow? I thought he's
from there.

Speaker 5 (10:36):
He ain't from there.

Speaker 2 (10:37):
Hell no, he from Columbus. I ain't gonna do him,
but that is that. But that was the first time
I heard somebody tell me that about while I was
from Cleveland.

Speaker 1 (10:49):
But look, you know, it's so crazy.

Speaker 2 (10:52):
I even just said this recently too, like because I'm
just because I used to I ain't gonna I used
to be on even on bullshit with him, like I
used to ain't like how he handled hisself and what
he did because I just feel like you was never
posed to switch on Ohio. It's like you you you,
you ran to Atlanta and then you you feel me

(11:12):
So I didn't. I didn't like it, and then now
he's starting to be back Ohio again.

Speaker 1 (11:18):
So it's like.

Speaker 2 (11:20):
I'm I'm I'm I'm not really tripping though, Like at
the end of the day, because what I can't say,
I respect your legacy. I can't say that. I can't
hate on you like I can't. I might not agree
with things that you have done, or even how you
is or certain shit like, but ain't no telling. I see,
I like to look at everything from everybody perspective. I'll

(11:41):
be like, well, ain't no telling, even though I would
have never did this, but I don't know what happened
to made him do that or what like why did
you do that?

Speaker 5 (11:50):
What?

Speaker 2 (11:50):
I don't I don't know, even though I would have
never did it. I understand everybody, not me, so that's
important to understand. But I also we also can't train
try to strain our vision to see these suckers point
of view either.

Speaker 1 (12:03):
Yeah, but that's why I just don't give a.

Speaker 3 (12:05):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, whatever, right right, Because but now
if we do want to give him the benefit of
the doubt, I guess he was a kid and then
he just like you know, heavenly influenced the song. I
don't know, but like you say, even as a kid,
you want to be like, you know, yo, I'm the
only one, or I'm the one.

Speaker 1 (12:23):
Carrying the light for this area.

Speaker 3 (12:25):
Now it's more me down through there, even if I
ain't cool with them, even if I don't like half them,
For my legacy sake, I.

Speaker 5 (12:33):
Started right there, y'all.

Speaker 2 (12:34):
That's why but that's why I do what I do
for my city, and that's why I love my city
what I do.

Speaker 1 (12:38):
Even though it's.

Speaker 2 (12:39):
A lot they're hating me, but the love always outshine
to hate. Like it's a lot of mon I really
loved me to death, but I understand. But because at
the end of the day, I look at it like
this man, shit that everybody is so many people who
want to rap and be successful, and I'm like the
only one that did it, like as a street from Cleveland,

(13:03):
like to really sign a record deal, really get rich,
really really actually touched millions of dollars, really move out
the city been gone for almost ten years, like really
living like that, really got bill board ships, got songs
with the biggest artists, got billion streams, this type ship

(13:26):
like really on this type of level. From a from
a street perspective, it's been done before. Machine Gun Kelly
did it.

Speaker 1 (13:35):
But he not he not.

Speaker 3 (13:36):
He not a street nigga. Yeah for sure, let me
say it because you're from now. Respectfuel him. He don't
count for.

Speaker 2 (13:43):
Us facts, facts and he but he will say that,
he tells me, he'll come out and say that's not
to him, that's my brother.

Speaker 1 (13:50):
Yeah, yeah, that's my brother. So that's why I understand.

Speaker 2 (13:52):
That's why he don't get offended when I popped my shit.
He already knows I ain't even talking about you. So
that's my dog. He is a solid for show.

Speaker 3 (14:00):
Man because I think, man, that's Lord, because it's so
important that that that he understands that brother Saint.

Speaker 1 (14:08):
This ain't got nothing to do with this, ain't got
nothing to do with Man.

Speaker 2 (14:11):
It's about this here man, because at the end of
the day that we're gonna be taking nobody.

Speaker 1 (14:17):
He wanted to.

Speaker 2 (14:18):
Man, if you look at go to one of his
shows and really see how this s.

Speaker 3 (14:24):
What you think about him? What he He wasn't on
the fire Rushmore though, wasn't It was eminem Yeah, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 5 (14:32):
He wasn't.

Speaker 2 (14:32):
See it's so it's so crazy you said that because
the Rushmore he did say something about that one. I
just I just I just like we had to buck
on my city the other day because the radio station
had put out them Mount Rushmore and they didn't have
me on it.

Speaker 1 (14:49):
So I just like we had to go up on
my city.

Speaker 2 (14:51):
Like at the end of the day, the radio bench
trying to shut me out and hold me out for
like this whole time, Like even me and you, we
were just talking about it, the Apple commercial and shit
like that. I had a real radio, but I had
one hundred thousand dollars behind that song on the radio.
So it's no reason why y'all shouldn't be pushing it

(15:12):
to the max. You'll supposed to be doing that off
the love, So it's no excuses. You can't say, oh,
because you ain't got to hit or because you ain't
had this, no whatever, No, I'm not trying to hear that.

Speaker 1 (15:21):
What about? What about?

Speaker 2 (15:22):
What about when I'm coming through with this budget with
this money on and I'm paying these people everybody else
doing it. It's the number one most added song this week?
Why is it not here? Like get what I'm say.
I've explained that, No, hell not. You know that's hete though.
See this, This will be the thing though, because it's
people at the radio station that with me. It's that
that I and that I love dearly, and it's it's

(15:43):
something like certain DJs they always play my shit on
the mix shows because I got personal relationships with her,
but as like the main rotation and shit, I don't
know what it is, but it's really to be honest,
it's some shit from like back in the day, like
they the way.

Speaker 1 (15:58):
It used to carry yourself like and ship like that.

Speaker 2 (16:00):
They didn't used to like how I show up to
the events and ship that they they like trying to
throw some smudges on me, and like, but I was
a kid though, Like I was a young wild moving
around with fifty goddamn coming in drunk with wow though,
Like I ain't gonna back, so I can understand why y'all,
But I ain't been moving like that and so long

(16:22):
you're still gonna hold it against me like this, And
when Apple this is what I hate, right, this is
when you can, Okay, let me say this. This is
when you can possibly identify this hate. It's when when
Apple Music come in and take one of my records
and go towards like a national campaign with it. I

(16:44):
was bigger than Taylor Swift on TV game, I had more.
I was the biggest ship in the world at that
when that ship was going. How could you see somebody
from your city doing something like this like this is Apple.
This is not realistic. The biggest artist.

Speaker 1 (17:02):
In the world can't even get this shit game.

Speaker 3 (17:04):
This is this is no long good business, right because
business says do it at this point, right, because if
usually your city will start with you, even if they
hate you, when they see the.

Speaker 1 (17:17):
Big company exactly exactly, damn Apple put me on the
campaign and y'all still.

Speaker 3 (17:25):
And what else can I call it? We'll let you
all define it? What else can all let exactly?

Speaker 1 (17:31):
You see what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (17:32):
When Apple steps in and identifies this as being campaign worthy,
they green like this if nothing else you green like
the same thing they green lid.

Speaker 2 (17:41):
And you say it's because Apple green lit it. That
at least give you a skapegoat if you hate.

Speaker 1 (17:46):
It to the core.

Speaker 2 (17:48):
But you have to support the artists when they come
from the area. What does that feel like to you, bro?
Having to deal with that shit? I'm so I'm so
much of a solid like like, Bro, I've been dealing
with that shit for like fifteen years, like getting shut
out and not with me for real and shit like that.

Speaker 1 (18:09):
I'm so used to it. I just really don't care.

Speaker 2 (18:11):
The only reason I even said something the other day
because I just like, I feel like popping my shit
because I do need to let and it ain't even
got nothing to just do with y'all because the whole
world need to hear this. The whole world need to know.
I got a billion streams in my catalog. Everybody need
to know this shit because I feel like a lot
of people don't understand this. Yes, so I'm put it
in everybody's face. Not just y'all, I just y'all. Just

(18:32):
God damn, just flick the switch. It wouldn't really just
you know, it was for everybody putting no name on
or nothing. Y'all knew I was talking to, but I
was talking to everybody. Everybody like who, okay, let's talk
about this.

Speaker 3 (18:47):
Who can they put on a Mount Rushmore from now
that besides you?

Speaker 2 (18:52):
You want me to be honest, it's it depends on
which way, which kind of Mount Rushmore you want to go,
because we got real Cleveland legends like that's that's not
all the way industry yet. But if you want to
go like some Cleveland my Rushmore, I wouldn't even be mad.
Even if you don't even you don't even gotta put

(19:12):
me on that list you could, cause it's it's like
pool gutter, little Craig Q money.

Speaker 1 (19:19):
Uh, It's it's it's it's it's certain it's in the city.

Speaker 2 (19:21):
I'll be like, no that they go there though type
ship though it ain't even necessarily with me.

Speaker 1 (19:27):
But if we gonna go, let's.

Speaker 2 (19:29):
Speak facts, accomplishments all the way around aboard and take
all the personal feelings and all that ship out of that.

Speaker 4 (19:35):
Man.

Speaker 2 (19:36):
If I'm gonna be honest, bro, you gotta go mg
K facts, you gotta go, dough boy facts, you gotta
go bone, thugs and harmony.

Speaker 5 (19:49):
I forgot bone facts Bone. I really gotta do that.

Speaker 1 (19:53):
I understand, you gotta do that.

Speaker 2 (19:55):
And and to be honest, I don't even rock with
Cuddy y'all like that, but you gotta you have to go.
Kid Cuddy he from that too. It's crazy, but it's true.
And that's just me not being biased and nothing. You
have to put Kid Cutdy on there.

Speaker 1 (20:10):
Yeah, yeah, damn. I didn't know he was from there
at all.

Speaker 3 (20:13):
Like when you say Bone, I remember that, right, it's like,
oh they did. They kind of did rep right and screaming.
I did not hear Cuddy from now.

Speaker 2 (20:24):
Because cuz Cuddy that's another thing even like some kind
of like with the bioall situation. But see, but Cuddy
Cuddy ain't as ain't as bad as that though, because
one of my homies had put me down and because
I was always thinking cut he got on and he
didn't with nobody from the city, and that he got
on there was just like, oh, I'm gone. But truth

(20:45):
be told, he actually did with certain people, but he
had reached back to like a like an artist from
the city that maybe we don't know type shit. So
it'd be like he put this person on this show,
he did this, that and the third, so it was
something that we didn't see. And one of my home
was playing like he did this for this person and
this person and then yeah he So he has done it,

(21:07):
just not for the people that we know. So we
can't necessarily blame him for that because he don't got
it with the streets for him. You feel me at
the end of the day, like to my knowledge, like
he was somebody who wasn't for him, used to be
treating him like a lame like.

Speaker 3 (21:24):
That, And there's something to be said about that. Oh no, lord, nothing,
nobody nobody doing that. I don't give a fuck who says.

Speaker 2 (21:34):
And in reality, he don't got to get on to
help nobody. You don't, And that's what the That's the
hard reality of this because especially for us to know
what it really takes. Right, It ain't like this shit
is given to it by any means, especially what you
think about it. Fifteen years dealing with radio, still trying
to in your home city, still maintaining getting deals, moving

(21:56):
ship around, making money, knowing in the back of my mind,
man and folks at the house ain't really doing what
they should be doing to support this shit, you know
what I'm saying. So that ain't for us to give
or cost us all of that.

Speaker 5 (22:10):
That costs an a lot.

Speaker 3 (22:11):
Dealing with that mentally and physically and emotionally, going here,
going there, trying to make records. Don't have to give
no grown man anything, right, But when you are blessing,
you want to become a blessing. My thing is I
want to try to help kids and women. You know
what I'm saying. Men, they got to get it, like
the red crawl, you know what I'm saying. That's how

(22:32):
I look at it, because you know we got it,
you know, not saying you don't help it when he
needs some help or one of your homies or something.
But I'm saying all the time, pulling that and asking
him for something like I was saying about that book.
It teaches you that instead of being offended, embrace it
because it's the life of the king, you know what

(22:52):
I mean. And I think that that transition is helping
me because I'm telling you, bro, I will be snapping
motherack call my phone sometime only answer.

Speaker 1 (23:01):
Then if I answer them out, they can tell a
long one want.

Speaker 2 (23:03):
To really but you know how you can tell them
uh huh yeah, yeah, you know, they can.

Speaker 5 (23:09):
Kind of tell you.

Speaker 3 (23:09):
He dry They still put it out there though. Nigga
be dry as up, but they.

Speaker 1 (23:14):
Still gonna let me get that.

Speaker 2 (23:17):
Niggas don't because niggas be selfish. Niggas be selfish. They
don't get what you're going through, what you gotta handle.
They don't care. They just care about what they need
at the time. And then it'd be so crazy because
you got other outlets to go get this ship. And
this is another thing too, what I love saying no,
like I mastered the artist saying no, Like I'm not
scared to say no because one thing, what I know about,

(23:39):
you're gonna figure it out. You just ask me, because
that's the easiest way. And so when I say no,
you're gonna end up. You're gonna go get it done anyway.
It might take you another day or two, but you're
gonna figure it out.

Speaker 1 (23:49):
Though.

Speaker 3 (23:50):
I'm just the first easiest one. That guy's easy for
you to do that. That's one hundred percent fact. That's
a hundred percent fact. So now back to your five.
You got MGK, bone Kid cutting dough Boy.

Speaker 5 (24:04):
Is it just four or five?

Speaker 1 (24:06):
I think it's just folk. But if we go five,
you gotta throw Q money.

Speaker 2 (24:10):
Yeah, Q money he locked up right, Yeah, yeah, free God,
free that free that guy.

Speaker 1 (24:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (24:16):
Man, did the list they came out with, do we
know any of the people us in the industry? Do
we know the people that was on their list that
they put out that garnered the reaction from you?

Speaker 1 (24:27):
Like as far as like the radio, do we know
him in the industry?

Speaker 3 (24:31):
Like, is it notable names on that list that they
put before you? The four people that they have on them.

Speaker 2 (24:37):
I mean with with Ray Yeah, Ray Jr. That's that's
one of the ones. I won't be mad at that.
Like I'm like, okay, he a legend in the city. Also,
so you can't you can't knock that either. So like
that either go back to like where I was saying,
like if you was to go to the amount rushmore
to where it's not more so the industry and you

(24:59):
go like the pool guy does the Ray junrs, the
Q money's the little crazy well Q money down there
blew up. He was in the industry too, so I'll
say he was right there. He was right there. Yeah,
for sure, if you would have if you would have
been out right now, Q would be biggest right now.

Speaker 5 (25:15):
With the dance.

Speaker 2 (25:16):
He was superstar, a superstar for sure. But like I'm saying,
even like like Ray JR Jr. He but he don't
even care about making music no more like he into
filming and stuff like that. So we don't even got
to do that. But he did what he did for
the city. But as far as on some like on
some on some global ship on some like in the industry,

(25:37):
it's the ones I named, what were they on that list?

Speaker 6 (25:41):
To uh?

Speaker 2 (25:43):
The only ones that was on there was Kid Kid
cutting and mg K, So it was Kid cutting mg K,
and then it was two other people, okay, cool Ray
Junr Was one of the other people, and then there
was somebody else on there.

Speaker 6 (25:55):
Okay, cool cool, cool, cool cool. How how were you
discovered out of that? How did you get because the
paath out of there had to be lonely, it had
to be like rough. I don't see how you came
out of there. I mean, how did you get on
from Ohio?

Speaker 1 (26:11):
I popped everywhere else.

Speaker 2 (26:13):
Well, it's so it's so crazy though, because to be honest,
my first time really seeing the light, like.

Speaker 1 (26:24):
Getting some some.

Speaker 2 (26:25):
Some exposure outside of the city was when I start
with like south Side, And you know, I've been with
south Side fifteen sixteen years old, like I was a kid,
like I don't know, I do graphic designs and all
type of ship. I ain't now I'm finna, I'm finna
start showing people like hell yeah, my mama just bought

(26:46):
my portfolio down here. I used to draw real good.
I used to like, I'm a I'm a dog you
can starts. Yeah, I'm I'm really a smart price for real.

Speaker 1 (26:54):
I just I'm just a little throw it off and.

Speaker 2 (26:57):
Made, you know, but real, But I'm I'm I'm I'm
back tapped into like my genius high real, like really
that's what I've been on, Like I don't care.

Speaker 1 (27:04):
About none of the other sh no more.

Speaker 2 (27:06):
But but I really, I really used to do graphic
design and shit, and I traded south Side some graphics
for some beats. So so I got done. I got
some beats from south Side and then it went from there.
I made a song called bands on Me and shit
like that. And then so before you was making the beat,
before you was doing the graphic design, you were rapping too.

Speaker 1 (27:25):
So yeah, I was still always rapping. Yeah, hell yeah.
So I had like a little city bud.

Speaker 2 (27:29):
So here's the problem, or here's the Here's what I
want to speak to is the ingredients. Because when you
come from a place like Ohio, you damn it got
to be a Swiss arm and knife.

Speaker 3 (27:40):
You got to slick in that time. You had to
know how to do the graphic design, slick record exactly.

Speaker 5 (27:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (27:46):
I used to have to do all that shit. I
used to record myself. I used to god damn sit
in my room with them. Even before that, before I
even had a real microphone, I used to plug the
headphones in the computer jack. You know how I got
the microphone jack in the computer. I used to plug
the headphones in there, and then my cousin used to
wrap inside some regular headphones try to get windows movie

(28:09):
maker like on some other ships.

Speaker 5 (28:10):
That's the ingredients.

Speaker 2 (28:11):
But doing that shit since a kid picture want you
to give him this ship, no facts, That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (28:17):
That's what I need to understand. This ain't just because
I made that song, y'all. Like this, I literally had
to record myself back when it was cool edit pro.
I finally got.

Speaker 2 (28:27):
I got I got a hundred dollars microphone, and I
got the little styrophone ship to go around, the little
mike staying and all that. I got my own little
house set up for like three hundred dollars. That ship
changed my life though.

Speaker 5 (28:40):
Like and then peep this.

Speaker 3 (28:43):
If you were just counting on your music back then,
it may not would have made the connection. But because
you was a Swiss arm in Nighte, I get a
connection with the graphic design happened to be a take
a week around in the Black Brothers exactly. That's my
that's my real twin like to this day right now,
that's that's like one of my closest that's my real friend.

(29:05):
We don't even talk about music together, like we don't
even be on some other ship. Like I go to
his baby mama house with him and slip on his
baby mama couse while he with.

Speaker 2 (29:15):
His kids, like that type of relationship. I go out
to eat with him and his his family. His mama
is my mama.

Speaker 3 (29:21):
Like you know what I'm saying, You gotta celebrate that too,
though in our culture, because I don't know, all we
see is us killing each other. All we see is
us all getting hard on each other. We don't really
celebrate the fact that yo, he go too. Black men
doing business in this culture end up being like brothers.
That's worth being celebrated in this culture.

Speaker 2 (29:41):
It's so you and me some real like that in
the game, and you're gonna come across a lot of faith.
So that's that's one thing what I had to decipher.
And this ship, like damn, who is your Who's this ship?

Speaker 1 (29:53):
Like?

Speaker 2 (29:54):
Like certain you because because I'm a genuine person. So
every time I go into a situation with genuine intentions,
and I'll be like, all right, let me let me
get around this, let's see ship.

Speaker 1 (30:04):
Like even today, man, you just met, you don't never
know where this ship might end up.

Speaker 2 (30:07):
You know what I'm saying, bangs exactly though, even off
the camera type shit, you could tell like certain shiit energy,
don't lie for something, you know what I'm saying, period
like yeah so so, but yeah, just I think I
wanted to highlight that for the people out there like
understanding that.

Speaker 3 (30:24):
Again, he didn't get anything given to him. Most of
us who got on didn't get anything given to him.
It just looks like that when it finally happens.

Speaker 1 (30:33):
Right.

Speaker 3 (30:33):
But he made a connection back then with south Side,
not even based on music, based on graphic designer.

Speaker 2 (30:40):
But then you start dropping, he ain't even heard none
of my music yet. You don't even know what I'm saying.
That shitull probably turn a nigga off exactly. It went
from me, I traded with south Side, got them beats
from south Side. Lex Luger at the time was the
biggest producer in the game.

Speaker 1 (30:56):
Lex Luger was that Lex in south Side. You know
they done. They're living in the same house together.

Speaker 5 (31:02):
That it was brick squad.

Speaker 1 (31:03):
It was a family.

Speaker 2 (31:05):
It was all sign women's a to walking mama and
s like that. So you get what I'm saying, So
so boom. It led from me going from south Side
now Lex won't graphics now in trade with Lex Lex,
we didn't end up doing so many uh trades. I
didn't got so many Lex Luca beats. You know what
I did, took that ship. I made a mixtape, Boys
in the Hood, dope boy, Alex Luger.

Speaker 1 (31:25):
You know what I did. I'm up. I hit a
lick I came up on.

Speaker 2 (31:31):
I paid for live mixtapes to put my ship on
the main page.

Speaker 1 (31:35):
I hit another lick. I got a thousand dollars.

Speaker 2 (31:38):
I paid Champaholics one thousand dollars to host my mixtape.

Speaker 1 (31:42):
Y'all want him to give you this nigga and nigga all.

Speaker 2 (31:45):
I had invested all the money that I came up
on and to my music, and that shit changed my life.
And that ship went from from from being on the
front page a lot of mixtapes looking at this ship, like,
who is this, oh boy, he got with Lex Luger.
You got an album with Lex, a mixtape with Lex Luger,
the biggest producer in the world right now. Yes, and

(32:05):
it's hosted by Chapel Hunks, the biggest DJ in.

Speaker 1 (32:09):
The game right now.

Speaker 5 (32:10):
Who is this?

Speaker 1 (32:11):
He got? Young? It was over that point on.

Speaker 3 (32:15):
Yeah, yeah, but see, but I think again, you've made
you made this is what success is for people don't know.
It's compounded right decisions. You see what I'm saying. So
you you deal with the beat, you get from south Side,
then you get something from Lex Luga. You could have
done that and then put the tape out without putting

(32:35):
the south Side and.

Speaker 1 (32:37):
Lex Luga tape.

Speaker 3 (32:38):
That that was an ingredient, bad self, that helped it tremendously.
But again people are sitting back really just thinking it's
happening out of know what.

Speaker 1 (32:48):
So I'm trying to document for people who are.

Speaker 3 (32:51):
Actually seeing the vision or actually seeing your process of
there's a lot of mitigating factors that's taking place as
you are on your journey.

Speaker 2 (33:00):
Right, Like you get those beats, you could have easily
made a decision just to put a regular tape on.

Speaker 1 (33:04):
And just put him out in the song. Yeah, it
wouldn't have been the same. I want to said, Dope
Boy and Lex Lugar type shit.

Speaker 2 (33:11):
So but that's something where where I had so many
of them, I'm like, I got enough for a mixtape.

Speaker 1 (33:18):
I got enough for a mixtape. Ship.

Speaker 2 (33:20):
Some of the songs on the mixtape ain't even produced
bomb goddamn, so I just threw them on there. But
majority of them produced by Lex Lugas. I made sure
it was cool with Lex and it's a goal, all right, Hey,
I want to drop Let's drop this mixtape. Ship I
don't give a bet say less type ship and that
went from there and then I ended up with Future.

Speaker 5 (33:38):
That's crazy.

Speaker 2 (33:39):
So after that tape, So when I when I was
doing ship like that, you gotta think. Like I said,
Lex Luger is one of the biggest so right now
industry on game because he was with Raws, he was
with the entire exactly.

Speaker 1 (33:54):
That's when he had that BMF for all that ship.
I had him right around that time. My goodness, for sure.

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back to the episode.

Speaker 1 (35:11):
So I was with.

Speaker 2 (35:14):
Me and Pluto had the same manager at the time
and ship though so it ended up coming about like
ship that ship led to one thing to another. I'm
I seen Pluto. He was on he was on U stream.
He was on U stream one day.

Speaker 1 (35:27):
That's stream.

Speaker 2 (35:29):
Hell, yeah, I know you remember your stream. But the
ones that don't know, that's like a that's like twitch
or something.

Speaker 5 (35:35):
Now exactly.

Speaker 1 (35:37):
It was the day Pluto dropped the True Story mixtape.

Speaker 2 (35:39):
That's that's mixtape that had Magic and Tony Montana and
all that shit on there.

Speaker 1 (35:43):
Is you stream with I don't know that.

Speaker 2 (35:46):
That was on U stream by itself promoting his mixtape
that just dropped the True Story mixtape that day. Mind you,
it's a song called It's called Free Band Gang. It's
track number two on the True Story mixtape. I heard
that song and I'm like, I'm with that campaign cut
my already my dog and ship Meals and ship though
that used to blast his future. He was a future

(36:09):
hit and and my Rich King that's that's my dog too.
He I came up with him too. He used to
do graphics with me. So but it's hip to him now.
Hill Rich King, that used to be DJ Little King.

Speaker 1 (36:20):
That was my dog. He used to do the same ship.

Speaker 5 (36:22):
Yeah, so.

Speaker 2 (36:25):
He got in the industry though. King, everybody everybody know
came down for show. He one of the ones.

Speaker 1 (36:30):
That's what I'm saying. You gotta be useful in this ship,
but continue with this.

Speaker 5 (36:34):
It is crazy.

Speaker 2 (36:35):
So look, so King and my Meals, they used to
always play future and ship. They used to always try
to put me on so boom. I finally listen to
the True Story mixtape. I'm like, something about this is
just special, bro, this is special and this before he
had real he was gone, like he wouldn't even he man,
he had racks on racks, but he didn't even have.

Speaker 1 (36:57):
Exactly he wasn't. It wasn't a hit. It didn't blow
up for him.

Speaker 2 (37:02):
Why he got the credit exactly if you suldn't get
the credit Tony Montana wasn't even a hit yet when
I heard this ship when when when the True Story
mixtape came out twenty Montana ended up blowing up afterwards,
But mind you something was I'm like, this ship special.
I would sign with him, like, and it was only
two people back then that I would have signed to
it was him or Gucci.

Speaker 1 (37:21):
Like so I'm like, I will sign with this.

Speaker 2 (37:24):
Something about this, this don't be that like I just
seen it in him like it was I don't know,
I can see the future. And that on you stream,
that hat on you stream. I told that like, Hey,
I'm trying to fud that free band ship though I'm
like sixteen, bron, I'm a kid, I'm.

Speaker 1 (37:39):
A little bro.

Speaker 5 (37:40):
That's brock. Bro, that's crazy.

Speaker 2 (37:43):
He like shit, hell yeah, Like with your free band
game mind. You know, he probably talking to me like
you know in the comments, ain't really trying to sign
me yet though for real. So, but one of his
homies that was really in the chat. He's seen that
ship and ship though, so uh his name DJ saying
name DJ saying the shit he was really he was
cool future back then and ship though, So he's seen

(38:06):
me say that, so I told him I hit him
up afterwards. I'm like, you see, Pluto told me that
this free band shit all go what's up?

Speaker 5 (38:13):
This is all game ding?

Speaker 1 (38:15):
Where to God?

Speaker 2 (38:16):
And then I'm telling you, I'm like where I need
to say the music? He give me future number. That's
give me a future number. I call him.

Speaker 1 (38:23):
He's a little artist now though he ain't as big
exactly exactly, give me put on number. I called crazy.

Speaker 2 (38:29):
We chop it up exactly though. They need to hear
this ship. We chop it up and ship. I can
tell he don't even remember who the fame or nothing, though,
I'm like, bro, you gotta hear this ship though, So
boy my start sending my music and ship like that.

Speaker 1 (38:43):
He's like, oh no, you hard for real?

Speaker 2 (38:45):
Like then I'm like, I'm like, let me get a
drop that sent me a drop on.

Speaker 1 (38:53):
He left it on my voicemail.

Speaker 2 (38:54):
Matter of fact, that ship that shit on want of
them mixtape?

Speaker 1 (39:01):
That shit on one of them let Luga mixtapes.

Speaker 2 (39:03):
I don't know if it's on part one or part two,
but I got a future skit on one of them
from future from future man.

Speaker 3 (39:09):
Hell yeah, no, bet hey, you was playing game. You
was playing major game and did so look look let
me keep going hold on. So that so that ended
up going on, mind your time, go on like a
year past?

Speaker 2 (39:24):
Mind do I lose contact with him? And shit, I
ain't talk to him or nothing though?

Speaker 1 (39:29):
Mind you?

Speaker 2 (39:30):
Like I said, we had like the same manager at
the time, propane and shit though.

Speaker 1 (39:33):
So look this.

Speaker 2 (39:37):
One day, I'm shooting the video with the little mouse.
Little mouse from Chicago had the round with the frown
Get smoked a little kid that went viral. So I
was shooting that video, mind you. I was in the
hood and Ship shooting the video. I leave, I go
home and Ship I go in the house. I go
in the house. I get a call. Propyne called me.
He like, somebody want to talk to you.

Speaker 1 (40:00):
We want to talk to me. Get on the phone
in the future. What's up? Like you ready? Hell yeah,
I'm ready. So he doubled back exactly.

Speaker 3 (40:10):
That's the energy though, But that's what we talk about now,
is just real coing people.

Speaker 5 (40:17):
That's the energy.

Speaker 1 (40:18):
He knew.

Speaker 3 (40:18):
I'm going back to bro if his name come back up,
I remember, Bro, Man, where are you at?

Speaker 1 (40:23):
Man? He making noise out here? Bro, you gotta think. Bro.
See what a lot of people don't know.

Speaker 2 (40:28):
Bro, I'm really like, I'm a real legend, Like like
when it comes down to even like that drill music
and all that, like Keith and all them blew up
for this. Bro, I was doing the same shit, like
I ain't gonna say before because I don't know when
he was, but when I got hip to him, I
was already.

Speaker 1 (40:46):
Doing it like so like in two thousand and ten.

Speaker 2 (40:50):
If you go listen to my shit in twenty ten,
twenty eleven, I was drilling.

Speaker 1 (40:55):
I was drilling.

Speaker 2 (40:55):
I got my own drill sound and everything. Go look
it up, check it out. Facts is documented. So so
I'm one of the founders on one of the pioneers,
like and my day one fans think gonna hear me
say this, and they're gonna vouce for it, they're gonna
stand on it. So it's like it's like ship, I
was supposed to this would this would up for real
because I was really supposed to blow up with them

(41:17):
like so.

Speaker 1 (41:19):
And you still blew.

Speaker 2 (41:20):
Exactly on my own time, adopt. So I'm looking at
this ship like like damn. I see Keith. Keith was
the first one to figure it out. See back then,
I didn't used to shoot music videos. Keith figured it
out and shot music videos, and Keith made he he
showcased the young lifestyle that we were living like, so
it was so amazing. That's why he blew up because

(41:43):
people like damn, they.

Speaker 1 (41:45):
Like, what the.

Speaker 2 (41:47):
Hell, yeah, thug and how we really being real life?
Though he was just the first to put that shit
on camera. He taught us all the game for real,
for real. So I'm like, oh, ship, I never shot
no videos showing videos like so so boom that shit
end up happening to mind you, so so all of
them are blowing up Mondu. I take a little ship,
my ship like way, take a little stand still and ship.

(42:08):
Though I ended up going to jail. I go to jail,
like in twenty thirteen. That's when I ended up I
went down for the little robbery and the shooting shit,
so I had to go to jail for three years.

Speaker 1 (42:18):
So mind you, I was post to pop.

Speaker 2 (42:21):
You gotta think even even when I had like the
Boys in the Hood mixtape and shit I was telling
you about with Lex Luger, I was up there bigger
than that shit Nigga Niggau thug Man. He had to
like I came from nothing Part two, sit like that,
all that shit. But see, I used to be looking

(42:42):
at Thug like who is this because he his ship
was on the indy side. You know, they got live
mixtapes and then they got indie live mixtape that it
was on the indie side, doing main side numbers.

Speaker 1 (42:54):
So I'm looking at him like this. He on as fire,
this doing easy.

Speaker 2 (43:00):
Numbers, So you gotta think him it's like k Camp,
like Rich the Kid, I'm blowing up with all these though,
like we're all coming up at the same time. I
just ended up going to jail. I ended up going
to jail. You want to know, it's another crazy story too.
I swear to God while we own this because it
made me think about something. Speaking to Rich the Kid.

(43:22):
Mind you, Rich used to be for me heavy back
in the day and Ship though, and my DJ was
DJ Derell.

Speaker 1 (43:30):
I remember that night.

Speaker 2 (43:31):
DJ Drell you crazy. He ended up, you know, he
with the with the MiGs. He was like the fourth Migo.
So but Durrell was with me. Durrell my my label
r b MG. Durrell was my co CEO. I just
don't notice DJ Drell started this with me. Me and
Durrell got the same dead friends all kind of shit
like like like no, I'm telling you, like we was

(43:54):
like locked in for real. And then it's like I
went to jail and I ain't gonna lie. Race the
kid came in and swooped him up under me, like
I went to jail, Rich Stoley from me. Then Dyl
ended up with Migo and then it's like I came
home and Ship he was just a ego and but
but me and Darrel cool though, me and Doril. I

(44:14):
was just talking to Doril and ship though, like we
about to get back in. We about like I was
telling him, like man, bro let's fix that. That should
have been hard because if we would have did it
the right way the first time type ship like that
would have been that would have been hard.

Speaker 1 (44:25):
But it's like ship. He would have been eating out,
you know, because you.

Speaker 2 (44:28):
Will still be You'll be right here with me like
he was my co CEO. So it's just like ship.
Even if you don't with me, like we don't gotta,
we don't gotta. You don't gotta be my DJ or
nothing like that. But I do want at least like
do some music with you. Let me let me get
some beasts or some ship like that, Like we don't
gotta do it all the way like that.

Speaker 1 (44:44):
But but that's just traded.

Speaker 2 (44:45):
Was you upset at anytime about Yeah, Hell yeah I was.

Speaker 1 (44:49):
I was. I was all.

Speaker 2 (44:51):
It's like like damn, I understand, like life goes on
and ship like that, don't do what he gotta do.
So I ain't knock you for that. It's just like
you ain't got to save me in the process. Like
you could have been Migo free band. You could have
been Migo and real band, money game. You could have
been a rough band Migo, like when I got on
when outside the Future, I ain't say. I ain't say

(45:12):
RBMGVI me. I stayed what I was. I just added
free bands to it.

Speaker 1 (45:16):
Type ship. So that's how you're supposed to do that
now you don't supposed to get on.

Speaker 2 (45:20):
But I mean, like I say, I always i'll be
seeing shit from people perspective, so I don't really be
mad at the people, not even if I don't agree
with it.

Speaker 3 (45:27):
But we gotta do that so so we don't find
ourselves somewhat sort emotion Yeah exactly. Yeah, and see, and
here's the thing too, It's like it's important that we
when we got to talk about some of these things,
it's important that we don't come off as wounded because.

Speaker 1 (45:42):
Yeah, yeah, so it's like successfully pint good.

Speaker 3 (45:46):
But it's important that the information is placed in a
in a scenario where people get pulled and learn from it.

Speaker 2 (45:52):
Yeah, people exactly. That's that's why I'm willing to talk
about it right now. I ain't saying nothing about that
shit in ten fifteen years, Like the world don't notice.
Like a lot of people felna be shocked when they
hear this shit type shit, But it's just something that
y'all need to know because it's gonna be like, damn,
he really got a real story he has, Like my
story is real. Like I've been through a lot, I'm
through a lot, and I'm saying oh he.

Speaker 1 (46:13):
And he had been and this ship you missing throughout
the journey.

Speaker 2 (46:16):
I'm sure of that. You just it's so much shit, man,
it's so much shit. Gang like like my whole process
even to this day is not normal. Like even when
I was just in LA, when I was just shooting,
I was just shooting videos. Mind you, I'm I'm I'm
I'm so locked in my video. God damn, we're coming
one hundred thousand dollars budget videos type shit, like just

(46:37):
was talking about it. It's so crazy. That was even
more confirmation though, because I'm already out there shooting that.

Speaker 1 (46:42):
Then that interview come on home, Like that's crazy.

Speaker 2 (46:44):
I just twelve hours a day with the top videographer,
Ben Mark and shit like that though.

Speaker 1 (46:49):
Bro, yeah Ben Mark a dog, So I'm god damn.

Speaker 2 (46:53):
Even just like the people in my label, they'll tell you, like, bro,
you really like so self efficient, Like I'll show you
something real quick. Hold on, look at this game. Hold on.
Look you know when you're getting everything booked, like traveling,
doing all that shit. So instead of just like I

(47:13):
give them the names and I do ship like this,
yeah yeah.

Speaker 1 (47:19):
I do this, and then I give it to him
like this.

Speaker 2 (47:22):
And then they're like, oh my god, you make my life.
So you make my life search and run around. I
make everything easy. I get my own graphics. Everything, I
do it by myself.

Speaker 3 (47:34):
But that everything people have to understand because there's so
many people doing music across the country and just being
entrepreneurs wanting to get it, entertainment, content streamingto it, whatever
it is.

Speaker 1 (47:46):
If you come from a market or a town.

Speaker 3 (47:48):
Where it ain't just like La Atlanta or New York,
you have to be a Swiss army knife and you
gotta plat game and be thinking like, hey man, instead
of me just dropping this music, I'm gonna put the
next Lugo thing on there.

Speaker 5 (48:02):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (48:03):
Then when I hit the future, I'm gonna jail man.
You see Future said, don't let you You know what
I'm saying. It's just a playing game the entire time.
And that ship ended up doing what it posted. Man,
that ship is a dope as yo, Bro, I celebrate that, Bro.

Speaker 5 (48:17):
I ain't appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (48:18):
Bro.

Speaker 3 (48:19):
I celebrate that funk out of that bro and that
I'm maning. That's crazy.

Speaker 5 (48:23):
So now you meet So what okay? On the phone?
Future call you. He say that, He say.

Speaker 3 (48:29):
Where you are? Are you ready? Where are you at
that moment? And what's your financial status? What's your life like?

Speaker 2 (48:34):
At the time broke, I was still thugging. I was
I would mind you, like I said, I ended up.
I ended up going to jail for robbery a couple
of months after type shit, Like, So after that call
you went to jail, Yeah, like a couple months after that,
you gotta think my life still was the same, right, Like,
ain't nothing changed. And I really technically didn't even sign
to Free Bands on paper until after I caught my

(48:56):
case and got out of jail. So I caught my case,
I got bonded out, I got bonded out, and then
I signed my contract. I signed my contract because I'm like,
I need something to show. I didn't even care about
no paperwork. I'm like, I want to show the judge
something like I'm a real sign artist, so I'm like,
can you get my paperwork together? So that's why I
end up even signing my paperworking ship though, because we

(49:18):
was just gonna thug that shit out, like but but
now let man shoot this, you know, the paperwork and
make anything right, So that that's a good thing. But
they man, shoot, this did when you was, when you before.

Speaker 3 (49:32):
You, when you got out. What's this the time when
he did that? Uh he said your name and one of.

Speaker 2 (49:38):
Them my savages, my savages. That was so so mind
you all right, I caught the case. I was in
jail for like three days. I bond out, I signed
my paper. Mind you, I'm still fighting the case. So
I actually go to jail like four months later to
actually go to jail and sit down for my three

(49:58):
years folk will I got sent this to four, but.

Speaker 5 (50:00):
Three got eighty.

Speaker 1 (50:01):
Whatever they gave you so so much.

Speaker 2 (50:05):
My savages came out and like, mind you all that
was going on in twenty thirteen. So I went to
jail twenty thirteen. My savages came out like twenty fourteen. Okay,
So that was one day. He literally made that song
after we got off the phone, like we we We
was on the phone and shit, and I wrapped for him.

Speaker 1 (50:24):
He was in the studio and he was like, let
me hear some shit. Yeah. It's actually still on SoundCloud
right now when you wrapped it from when I rapped.

Speaker 2 (50:31):
When I rapped for future on the phone, It's on
SoundCloud on the free bands like Future It just put
it out and shiit a dough boy freestyle. So he
made me rap and then after I wrapped, he're like, man,
that shits so far, bro, And then he ended up
recording My savages. So that's why he said. I'd be
on the phone with Doe Boy. I'll be telling them
me inspire me to go harder.

Speaker 5 (50:52):
That's crazy to inspire that kind of you know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (50:54):
Because that gold it golded, you know what I mean,
had some crazy shit and you did them.

Speaker 5 (50:59):
Three is in Cleveland.

Speaker 1 (51:01):
Uh, I was down the road.

Speaker 5 (51:03):
Okay they moved, of course. Yeah, yeah, I penetration.

Speaker 1 (51:07):
I was down the road, so I was. I was
in Marion.

Speaker 2 (51:09):
I was in Marion, Ohio, in Ohio though, yeah, yeah,
it was in Ohio right, right.

Speaker 3 (51:14):
So when you get out, you you you you you're
signed while you're in there, and then you do this
song that you're looking for. Yeah, I wonder So when
you get out, the paperwork is done and you back.

Speaker 5 (51:26):
Rowland, that's it. Right, then I'm gonna.

Speaker 1 (51:28):
Put you on this song, bro.

Speaker 2 (51:30):
They can hear it to it sounds ship already.

Speaker 1 (51:36):
Or you'll remember that.

Speaker 5 (51:37):
Then you gonna go check it in.

Speaker 2 (51:39):
The report line the street down the road, man being
pot ship.

Speaker 1 (51:43):
They already shoot changed man, I.

Speaker 2 (51:46):
Behold though, Mania already know what.

Speaker 1 (51:57):
The nigga father.

Speaker 2 (51:59):
I'm compliment, Yes, lord ship shut killing shack of men touch.
I ain't scared of prison. When you live how I
was living.

Speaker 1 (52:14):
I mean tripping. I come home still winning.

Speaker 2 (52:16):
Oh God, now that gang change as far I left,
they was rubber band, money gang claiming nigga swart side
dag with this side. Don't get pregnant all that big
riding called future.

Speaker 1 (52:30):
He said, it's just us free band gang up. I'm
coming home when the band got touched last. I'll be
home in a few months. God you know sixteen.

Speaker 2 (52:42):
And he went down on two hommies, playing crazy like
my squad.

Speaker 1 (52:46):
Don't catch bodies.

Speaker 2 (52:47):
Flag on his head on first forty days, smiling and
I'm gonna get him that pill.

Speaker 1 (52:51):
Don't even worry about it.

Speaker 2 (52:54):
Sounded stupid. Go ahead, look up my cake. That was
robbing a shoot god, looking like a boss. I got
anything I knee smoking good, in't good. I'm living like
a king.

Speaker 1 (53:04):
Guy. Ain't worried about a thing. I'm just saying back
something minute joint flat screen.

Speaker 2 (53:09):
On my rat could have got probation if I chose
to be a rat, but do turning rats. Imagine that
God on my savage ship, I ain't acting. I was
shooting pistols way before I had a hit. I'm from Nozapa.
This rapping ship, rapping you know that's in a joint
wacken shit. God for you and then you free band gang.

(53:30):
If you've seen a look, I've seen you that did
the same thing. Cain't make a damn thing changed. I
can have a billion dollars. They'll take your damn change.
God's hard, yes, love, Yeah, that's hard.

Speaker 3 (53:46):
You know what don't what's crazy is you could I
can feel the energy through the through the phone.

Speaker 1 (53:53):
He recorded my Savages right after that.

Speaker 2 (53:56):
You can feel this little nigga feel like this. He
in his ship from in there though he in there
with the walls too. Now this would make it feel different.
It's probably why he even felt to cut my young
with the walls holding it down.

Speaker 1 (54:10):
And this is how he's feeling.

Speaker 2 (54:12):
And all jokes aside, like not even trying to trying
to put no no cap because I don't even like
glorifying this type of ship.

Speaker 1 (54:21):
But you know if anybody.

Speaker 2 (54:24):
That really know me, bro, I stand on business like
I was in I'm not in there like a rapper.
I'm in that hands and feet, blood on my teams
type ship on my son, on my mama, like I'm
like that, and.

Speaker 1 (54:41):
I don't even like the brag and glorify that type ship.

Speaker 2 (54:44):
But be talking too much, and they be trying to
make like like we were talking about earlier, you know,
we hating the noise. It be the noise be just
coming on the internet. Paralyft can say anything exactly.

Speaker 3 (54:57):
Paralyft can say anything like I said when we When
you're really from the city, you can verify exactly where
it happened and when it happened and what they took.

Speaker 1 (55:05):
And somebody did this to me? Facts? Man, the way
the internet is Noway y'all have had that ship on camera? Man?

Speaker 2 (55:11):
Man, who did me? Who played me like a whole?
Whoever did some ship like this to me? When did when?
When was it cool to say I'm a whole?

Speaker 5 (55:19):
Like?

Speaker 2 (55:19):
When did I ever become a whole ass? When did
I do some bad ship?

Speaker 1 (55:24):
Who could say? I ain't never you can't say this,
You can't say this.

Speaker 2 (55:28):
I didn't go up point my guns at cameras all night,
just point y'all guns at cameras and ship like that.
I used to really aim them at people like, not
even glorifying that ship like and not. And I hate
that I even got to say that. And I'm not
proud of it at all. And that's why I'm glad
I'm at where I'm at now, because I done been
through it and I see that that shit ain't about nothing.

Speaker 1 (55:48):
Right, and we break it, not breaking.

Speaker 2 (55:49):
It, but but but but here's the thing, right, as
far as.

Speaker 5 (55:55):
The first part, we're still in.

Speaker 2 (55:56):
Our first stage is of breaking the generation, the curse
of the ghetto, bro. So we still are attached to
a reputation meaning everything.

Speaker 1 (56:08):
Right, even the money. I got the house to crib,
the woman and everything.

Speaker 5 (56:13):
But don't play with my money.

Speaker 1 (56:15):
Yeah, in fact, I work too hard for my name, right.

Speaker 3 (56:17):
And so but if you if we continue to grow,
and hopefully we don't pass down the ability to be
rage baited like this, because I'm they can get me.

Speaker 1 (56:27):
I'm telling you that they can.

Speaker 3 (56:29):
Listen, bro, they can they can get long right, as
many books as I read, as much as I try
to be stoake, and they.

Speaker 1 (56:36):
Can trick me, bro. If they just say, if they
can just get in my head, I can be tricked.

Speaker 3 (56:42):
This is why I stay away from ship and stay
away from people, because I may not have as much
control as I tend to believe I have.

Speaker 1 (56:49):
Right, It's like, I understand that that's.

Speaker 5 (56:51):
The first part of it.

Speaker 2 (56:53):
But man, it's so up that we have to deal
with these individuals who try to cast this why neck,
But it's cloud attest to getting on.

Speaker 3 (57:04):
It's cloud a test to tanner down. It's cloud to
try to make an like he ain't who he say
he is, but it ain't no.

Speaker 1 (57:11):
Proof on it.

Speaker 2 (57:12):
Yes, and this be another thing too, like I don't
even know why try to take that route because because
because don't think about the bigger picture. So it'd be like, say,
if you do want to be like an upcoming artist
and you want to go against it like dough boy, right,
and you like shit, all right, I'm finna. I'm finna
do because I know it's gonna give me the most

(57:34):
story views. I had so in love with the attention.
I'm gonna get the most likes, the most notice. They
want a reaction. That shit only finna last for that moment.
From when you're talking about me, and then you have
a whole rest of your career to go. So what
you're finna do for the rest of your career because
you don win against me? So how you think you're
finna come in the industry? And my playground? It is

(57:55):
my playground fifteen in it's my playground. Everybody that you
look up to is my real friend.

Speaker 5 (58:01):
Exactly how you gonna do this?

Speaker 2 (58:03):
How's you finnah do this? You can't what you finna do?
I dare you to think you finnah got that? Where
you going?

Speaker 1 (58:10):
And I ain't got to make no calls. I ain't
got it. They just gonna do it because they love me.
I don't gotta say one word. I will never bring
you up or gotta say nothing.

Speaker 2 (58:18):
As soon as they peep that you don't with me,
soon as you you better off.

Speaker 1 (58:22):
If you don't like me, you better off not telling.

Speaker 3 (58:24):
Nobody can't say nothing because the first thing they do
when they say where you from, bro, I'm from Ohio boys.

Speaker 1 (58:30):
Very soon they say no, you're done. And even if
you say yeah, I'm still gonna check exactly exactly, just
get the yeah off.

Speaker 2 (58:40):
I'm gonna still I'm gonna listen to you in the moment,
but I'm gonna still check behind.

Speaker 1 (58:43):
You know, what's up with the wool man.

Speaker 2 (58:46):
And you you might get a couple nicks that might
not care that I don't but matter right, and then
god right, and then you do get they just be
scrambling for view and shit, they ain't really established because
established people stay out of it and miss it.

Speaker 3 (59:05):
Kind of shit, y'all ain't coming in with that, and
I'm gonna just lift you up.

Speaker 2 (59:09):
That ain't gonna happen. It's too much money at stake.
And then it's ruining relationships, Like you say, matter of fact,
let's talk about this.

Speaker 3 (59:16):
So because I know you have a relationship with Lebron,
Lebron and Kevin Gates. Yeah, the Kevin Gates situation to me, right,
a lot of people are asking me because the fans
is tagging me and they know I'm gonna break it
down with some game and apply some game to it.

Speaker 2 (59:33):
I said, like this, Kevin Gates was wrong. He shouldn't
have he should have said that.

Speaker 3 (59:39):
He shouldn't have said that because because you don't know
how to say that, right, you can only describe what
you know.

Speaker 2 (59:45):
Yeah, you can't really go out for you saying she
not smiling and shit right here at on the on
the camera at the you don't know.

Speaker 1 (59:53):
Because it.

Speaker 2 (59:56):
Like I even I just I just seen something just
yesterday with the they was talking about Andrew Berry. That's
the guy from the Browns who drafted your door and shade. Okay,
so they were showing they were showing his reaction. They
were showing his reaction when he drafted your door and
he looked drop and they're like, something is up. You
know the internet, they get to speculating something is up.
He don't look happy? Why because he not right?

Speaker 1 (01:00:18):
That don't mean nothing. Maybe you don't know why he's
not acting like that.

Speaker 3 (01:00:22):
So so do you have anything to go off of, right,
because my thing is there's a difference between describing and framing.
You can't describe lebron wife because you don't know. So
you're framing something and when you frame it, you cannot
frame someone else's wife without the proper information. Bro right,
And it's not no easy way to see it. We

(01:00:42):
all like gaze, he talked real shit, that's the guy.
But he was clout chasing in the moment and then
to show up to the game. The next day, I say, listen.
If let me say this to all rappers, if you're
chasting death, call on my phone. I got some projects.
I can take you to it in my city. If
you really want to die, you really want to act,
you know what I mean? If if you want some pressure,

(01:01:04):
any one of y'all like and no disrespect to nobody,
you can take it however they want to take it.
But I'm saying, if you chasing death, you don't get
it at the NBA game.

Speaker 1 (01:01:13):
That's me saying that.

Speaker 3 (01:01:14):
I'm saying, brother, we brothers, we don't got no being
this doing all it to one another.

Speaker 1 (01:01:20):
I feel as though it was an overreach.

Speaker 2 (01:01:23):
You know what's the craziest part about it, because because
it's crazy that we e were talking about it. Because
Gates is somebody that I talked to and that he
give me game. He's somebody that so when I seen
him do that, I'm like, oh, you do that, Gates,
And we're gonna talk about that too. That's something me
and him going a conversation and when I when I

(01:01:44):
get him on here, we'll talk about it. But but
he he But that's why I always say, you gotta
know people, he didn't mean no harm, right, he meant
what he was really trying to glorify Lebron. But it's
like it come off wrong because you don't speak on
his wife exactly. It's just a mistakes you you and

(01:02:04):
but it's it was detrimental for real. Like so it's
like you just but he don't get no r went
to the You know, here's what I think, right.

Speaker 1 (01:02:13):
Like you say, I don't think he meant harm as
it was took.

Speaker 5 (01:02:17):
But here's the thing.

Speaker 1 (01:02:19):
I think, what he's doing it you don't do it
do that.

Speaker 3 (01:02:21):
But but but when I look at it, I say,
I believe he's doing it to try to train this
new woman. I think he's trying to tell but he's
usually y'all is collateral damage. Y'all just fell victim to
the conversation me and shot.

Speaker 2 (01:02:34):
It with trying to he trying to teach his wife
how to treat celebrating. That's that's all he's been talking
about these last few days too. That's all he's been
talking about.

Speaker 3 (01:02:43):
See how I peeped that that I study human behavior,
So I'm saying, hold on, this is Lebron ended up
being collateral damage.

Speaker 1 (01:02:50):
So because rewind what's happening.

Speaker 3 (01:02:52):
He's in the bed with Shorty when he do it,
and he said, man, we're right here telling about the
that's the second clue.

Speaker 5 (01:02:59):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (01:02:59):
So they was just talking about it, So maybe she's
saying some opposite of what he believed. So he finna
go and do it this way instead of us getting
into back and forth about it. I'm gonna do it
this way and hope you catch the drift just off
me doing it like this and ended up.

Speaker 1 (01:03:14):
Offending the Holland right, oh Bridge, Yeah, man, And.

Speaker 3 (01:03:17):
That's and so the reason I brought that up is
back to what we were talking about with you and
people trying to disstay way into the industry.

Speaker 5 (01:03:26):
You don't know what business you messed up.

Speaker 1 (01:03:28):
With that, Yeah, that's Lebron James.

Speaker 2 (01:03:31):
You don't know if Apple was on the way, you
don't know if you don't know who all Lebron James
has relationships with. That just said so many people that's
not willing to burn a bridge with Lebron.

Speaker 3 (01:03:42):
That's what I'm saying, So that that risk and reward
was not worth it exactly, And that's I think that's
the lesson in it for.

Speaker 2 (01:03:50):
Even if it did go viral and it they're real
good mean shit. But then but even just me knowing him,
he don't give.

Speaker 1 (01:03:57):
Them exactly, so that didn't count for nothing.

Speaker 3 (01:04:00):
So it's like, at some point do you think Lebron
can be back cool with him?

Speaker 1 (01:04:04):
Ever? Can they get over that?

Speaker 2 (01:04:07):
It wasn't that bad to the point to where it
was like, oh no, we beefing for life? Like maybe
if if Gates apologized in the right way and like,
but ship, at the end of the day, Bron might
not get back.

Speaker 1 (01:04:20):
Hool because he might feel like, you disrespected my wife.

Speaker 5 (01:04:22):
It's humiliation.

Speaker 1 (01:04:24):
It just depends on how and.

Speaker 3 (01:04:26):
Then time may it may may time get between it maybe.

Speaker 5 (01:04:29):
But like you say, the wife thing.

Speaker 1 (01:04:31):
Is that's a different you just don't even speak on
that because then with the Stephen a thing, like you know,
it's like, ye'all.

Speaker 2 (01:04:37):
The same way you talk about his kids exactly the
same way, and he burning bridges about them.

Speaker 5 (01:04:42):
People.

Speaker 2 (01:04:42):
Man, but Stephen, they was actually being disrespectful, right, Gate
wasn't trying to be disrespectful Stephen. They was being disrespectful,
questioning his fatherhood, saying you a bad father, and this
that and the third.

Speaker 3 (01:04:54):
So now how how did you get cool with bro Lebron?
How did you get the relationship with him?

Speaker 5 (01:04:59):
Anyway?

Speaker 2 (01:05:01):
Eighty eighty one, My guys, uh, DJ Meal and Steph
Floss and all them, I remember, like I was telling you,
even at the radio station is certain that do it
fuck with me? DJ Steph Floss used to he was
he used to work at the radio. That was the
one of the guys that actually did love me. I
actually would play my music here actually like you feel me?
He with me like he didn't care when he was

(01:05:23):
DJ in that event and I come in the event
with a hunting he let us. He know what type
of time we on, he know what's going on. He
embraced it. He didn't steer away from me. You feel me.
And that's why I always even when Floss got trouble
or if anything ever come wrong his way, he know
I'm on his side up shit, I'm always gonna stand
with him just because he showed me some type of
loyalty and shit like that. But but yeah, eighty eighty one,

(01:05:46):
like I love the whole little family though.

Speaker 1 (01:05:48):
But but DJ Neal is the one who got me.

Speaker 2 (01:05:51):
Really cool with Bron because one day I'm in a
studio with Future, and Meal sent me a video.

Speaker 1 (01:05:56):
It's video Lebron dancing to my song.

Speaker 2 (01:05:58):
Right, I'm like, oh ship, this is my lifetimes.

Speaker 1 (01:06:03):
Yeah, it's gonna change my life. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:06:05):
I woke up and I posted that ship the next morning.
But and it went from there for real. And then
you know, me and Brian were playing the game and
ship like that.

Speaker 5 (01:06:13):
I love it. I played the game. What game you
be playing? Man Xbox Place.

Speaker 2 (01:06:16):
I got on that jump Yeah, I got we gotta
get out, we gotta get out of the show. I
got my man going on right now. I just playing.
I got my franchise right now. I got You know,
you can't. You can't import the n C Double A
Rookies and Ship.

Speaker 5 (01:06:33):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:06:33):
I don't drafted ship or I drafted Punchine, Junkins, all
of them. I did that ship before they even just
did in real life. That's how psychic I am. Swear
to God. I just put it the ship on my
story yesterday.

Speaker 5 (01:06:45):
I just showed trade you putting man, you put your door.

Speaker 2 (01:06:50):
I put that look n C double A. I imported
the Rookies. So I did a whole year. I did
my year at the franchise so I could get to
the draft. I went to the draft. I drafted Shador,
I drafted the win Sheine Junkins, and I drafted the
Harold Fanning junior, that's the other little tight end they
just drafted. And I drafted Travis Hunter too, So that's

(01:07:13):
one of the ones I got wrong. I got that wrong,
but it could have been they That's what they were
supposed to do.

Speaker 5 (01:07:20):
That's what people were saying.

Speaker 2 (01:07:21):
They should have they should have got Travis Hunter. But
I'm not mad at they draft no more because y'all
left with Shador, because that's all I really wanted for now.
Let's talk about that, because I mean, of course, this
has been a big story.

Speaker 5 (01:07:31):
I was like speaking the Xbox. I was in my
discording Xbox.

Speaker 2 (01:07:35):
Part of we was going crazy because Shad was falling.

Speaker 5 (01:07:39):
In the draft. That's what I do.

Speaker 3 (01:07:41):
Like if I ain't working or something, I ain't in
the street no more. I make money doing this shit.
If I ain't doing nothing, I'm talking to my people
on the discord on the Xbox, like I put them people,
so I'll be on that talk. So anyway, Shakur Shador
is falling, and so because I'm in the media, everybody
in that.

Speaker 1 (01:07:59):
You know, they still making well, he might go here,
he might go there.

Speaker 3 (01:08:02):
But I'm telling them how big the story is this
before it doesn't even start going viral, and shit, I'm
saying something is happening, bro, Like, this should not be
falling like.

Speaker 2 (01:08:12):
They should never be that like, even if he don't,
I thought he was gonna fall out of the top ten.

Speaker 1 (01:08:19):
Oh that's the worst I thought it was gonna be.

Speaker 2 (01:08:22):
I'm thinking, like, all right, he not gonna go top three,
all right, whatever, he's gonna fall top ten. Then I
seen Pittsburgh pass him up at twenty one. That's what
was the icing on the cake. I'm like, oh, y'all
want some bullshit. Then I seen the Giants trade back
in and get the twenty fifth pick, and the Giants
didn't take him. They took Jackson Dart over Shador. Y'all
could have had Shador Sanders and Abdua Carter y'allys would

(01:08:46):
have went crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:08:47):
So and this is what I be.

Speaker 2 (01:08:48):
This is what I was mad at the Browns about
two like, but now that I look at it, they
got the defensive tackle Mason Ground. He actually calls havoc though,
so all right, they gonna have a good defensive line.
We could have had Ashton Genty or we could have
add Travis Hunter and your door.

Speaker 1 (01:09:02):
My god, we could have asked your door.

Speaker 2 (01:09:04):
Travis Hunter and Quinn Shine Junkins and Harrold Fanning and
all the man. But it still ended up being a
good draft at the end of the day. But that's
only because we got lucky and Shador filled to the
fifth round, right, So that was happened without their pick.
How would you rate the draft? I wouldn't have liked
it that much. I liked I like the Junkins, and
I like Harold Fanning them okay, but the other picks

(01:09:27):
is good picks though, they're just not what I would
have preferred.

Speaker 1 (01:09:29):
I would have preferred them over Travis.

Speaker 3 (01:09:31):
Un trust at the end of the day, you trusting
that they whatever vision they running.

Speaker 1 (01:09:34):
But at the but you're still saying, as a fan
or as from you should you could have had Travis Hunter.
Oh my goodness, that's like that know what I'm saying. Though,
He's like a what you need, He's available.

Speaker 2 (01:09:44):
But they but they did give up a lot though,
So they gave up their fifth pick.

Speaker 1 (01:09:48):
So basically to.

Speaker 2 (01:09:51):
Go from the pick number two to pick number five.
That's a three pick difference. That's not that bad. And
they gave up a thirty third pick or thirty six
or whatever the fuck. They gave up a second round
pick some other shit, and they got a first round
next year two. So they gave up a lot though,
So that's why I could be like, Okay, I can
I understand that. But just even watching this whole situation,

(01:10:13):
is it just show you like, ain't nobody bigger than
the program?

Speaker 1 (01:10:20):
For real? But it ain't even That's what they're trying
to show.

Speaker 2 (01:10:22):
Him up right, But it's not even that he he
don't even move like that.

Speaker 3 (01:10:26):
That's what I'm trying to figure out because I'm not
as tuned in with him. But I'm like, all right,
I'm listening to some of the pundits in sports and shit.
Some people say it's don Some people say he didn't.
Charlemagne told me yesterday because we were talking to Ma
Sai Lone Chador didn't do the workouts. I think he
tried to dictate a bunch of like the off field
activities that want to combine.

Speaker 2 (01:10:48):
All he didn't do was he didn't do the combine.
He didn't do the workouts and shit like that. He
only did that as pro day. You know why he
did that. What he did was smart, Actually it wasn't.
It wasn't even It wasn't even him trying to be
arrogant or being then asshole. Y'all ain't getting mad at
cam Ward for not doing it. Y'all get mad at
nobody else for not doing it. Why y'all blaming him

(01:11:10):
so much?

Speaker 1 (01:11:11):
Because is that a normal thing for them not to
do it?

Speaker 2 (01:11:14):
When you when you that good, because you so good
for real, for real, anything can hurt you because it's
not like you're really trying to prove nothing, because it's
already been proven. Y'all been talking about this supposed to
be the best quarterback coming out.

Speaker 1 (01:11:28):
We already understand how great this is.

Speaker 2 (01:11:30):
Y'all just trying to start calling me mid out of
nowhere like this turn around two franchises didn't break all that.
He's not the most franch that accurate, the most accurate
passer in college football history. We're not gonna act like
this then through for thirty seven, Yes, the best accuracy
number two, the most accurate passer ever. This last year,

(01:11:53):
this had a seventy four percent completion rate. Nigga, he
threw for forty one hundred yards, and he threw for
thirty sevening touchdowns. Cam Ward threw for thirty nine touchdowns.
That's two more touchdowns at your door. And he threw
for forty three hundred yards. That's two hundred more yards
forty one and forty what's the big fucking difference?

Speaker 1 (01:12:11):
So why the fuck is he the first overall?

Speaker 2 (01:12:13):
And he'd a one hundred and forty fourth pick while
he number one while one hundred.

Speaker 1 (01:12:18):
And forty four, So it's no way. He not that right.

Speaker 2 (01:12:22):
Even if you think cam wore better, he not that
big much worse. It's politics. It's because y'all don't like that.
He don't need football to be rich. He don't need this.
He gonna be good regardless. Y'all don't like his his
his confidence.

Speaker 5 (01:12:35):
You can't control them with pt playing that shit. You
can't do.

Speaker 2 (01:12:40):
That's what they don't like. You mad that he coming
in he icy, he got damn he richer than the coaches.
He's pulling up and laid back. He like, they don't
like this ship and you think they like this shit,
Hell no, mind you this whole draft was based around that.

Speaker 5 (01:12:55):
Still he show.

Speaker 2 (01:12:58):
Did all right, I think about me without being one
hundred and forty fourth pick, fifth round the draft about me.

Speaker 3 (01:13:05):
They didn't even talk about no cam Ward and they
talked about nothing that Travis Hunter ain't.

Speaker 1 (01:13:10):
They ain't even talk about Travis like that.

Speaker 2 (01:13:11):
Bro. It's all about the door. That's the door run
the internet right now. That's what they don't like. He controlled.
He controlling this ship. And that's why they you done her.
You had to picking for real, for real, because that
would have been doing with so much yet with fans.
Wasn't gonna fill that like it was the NFL was
gonna have a problem.

Speaker 1 (01:13:31):
Many would win on striking some ship.

Speaker 2 (01:13:34):
Man.

Speaker 3 (01:13:34):
You can't do it like that. It's like y'all stolen.
How low y'all got stolen?

Speaker 1 (01:13:39):
And he finna come with sand Fair.

Speaker 2 (01:13:42):
He finish changed the franchise gang. He finish changed the
whole city. He finished turn the city. If I was
just talking to little did I say, that's Junr just yesterday,
like that's my dog, like him DeAndre, like like I'm
talking about like for real, Like they pull up to
my house like DeAndre used to bring me food like
real friends like my own, this type. So it's like

(01:14:02):
I'm proud of them, and so as me watching that
shit happen, I'm feeling for them. I'm like, damn, man,
that shup. I know, I know, I know, they said,
because I'm sick. I'm salty for him though, But you
know what's so important.

Speaker 3 (01:14:17):
When I spoke to rich home Kawn Dad, I said,
the only reason why that young man hasn't been raged. Baby,
you hear me talk about how I can be rage baity,
you can be tricked and gidd emotional. Yall, nigga, quit
playing with my net because that man father is such
a good man.

Speaker 1 (01:14:33):
He understands. He's sitting there on tin Stoy.

Speaker 2 (01:14:36):
Don't let it break you. That's what they're trying to
talk about. That, that's what they're trying to make you, nigga.
That's gonna make your story that much better. Man.

Speaker 3 (01:14:42):
They warm my heart to see that little I said, man,
he can't be he not trip. But guess what they
told me. That's a black father in his life right
there doing that. If it wasn't a black father.

Speaker 2 (01:14:54):
Breaking ship man, because the black man he was on twitch,
he was he was showing that his up the whole time.

Speaker 5 (01:15:00):
Man, because the black man was in his life.

Speaker 3 (01:15:03):
He was able to sit there knowing they playing with
everything I just worked for, knowing they trying to pull
some kind of bullshit.

Speaker 2 (01:15:11):
Move this strictly above my daddy, like y'all hating on
my daddy, Like y'all, y'all don't want y'all don't want
him to get y'all feel like he gonna be too powerful,
like y'all don't y'all don't want a nigga like Deon
Sanders all the way in the door. But they think
he gonna act the way that he not even gonna act.
They think he's gonna try to babyshit door. He gonna
let y'all rock out, but you know he's gonna make

(01:15:33):
give y'all some game, but he not gonna try to
control nothing. And instead of again, change the perspective, instead
of looking at him like a bird, and you look
at him useful. He's a asset exactly, He finla, He
finna help y'all. So I won't even dignify the fact
that he gonna be a problem. Y'all should have picked
him first, cousin him being instead of going the other
way around. Y'all should have picked him because of that.

(01:15:54):
If anything, That's what I'm saying. I don't hate it
on him because.

Speaker 1 (01:15:57):
Of it exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:15:57):
Instead of us looking at they doing the Bronnie bro
it should Liz, same exact thing.

Speaker 1 (01:16:02):
So you take these.

Speaker 3 (01:16:03):
Guys because it comes with a inside coach, you dig it.

Speaker 5 (01:16:08):
Come with more than just the player.

Speaker 1 (01:16:10):
Come with a guy.

Speaker 2 (01:16:10):
This niggas should door is signed. He was the first
not to Tom Brady. Tom Brady trained him. So even
when the Raiders kept passing on him, you know tom Brady,
he that's his team. So when I'm seeing them pass
on I'm like, bro, the NFL they came together and
said it had to be. So they came together and said,

(01:16:31):
we're not picking him until dates whatever. We're not picking
him though. I'm sitting there, man, like we sitting there
shocks saying, all right, that's not this much like you said,
it's not this much distance between Cam and this guy.

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