Feat Karlous Miller - Pt-2 Karlous Miller on Charleston White interview Removal , Wild n out Contract Disputes - ITS UP THERE PODCAST W/LOONEY

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
To that interview. I don't think I ever heard you
speak about that.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
The interview got took down. People want to know what happened?
What do you mean it got took down? People were
saying that the eighty five South interview with Charleston White
was removed from YouTube.

Speaker 1 (00:14):
What all citizens? One thing I love about America. They
give you the right to free speech. I ain't bothering
on what I'll say you. I ain't calling no, I
ain't no nothing. If I say say jay Z, you're
nap ahead up. He can't want to fight me, he Z,
what are you doing? You? Sue? I got made with

(00:43):
a red bean on it.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
The eighty five southn interview with Charleston White was removed
from YouTube. What you own eighty five South? I think
it's interesting you're asking me why.

Speaker 1 (00:58):
There's a lot of theories behind. People told me the
tip called us and made us take it down. It's
your time to tell the hundreds of thousands of people
that love to watch you. Are you interested in going
on tour without DC and Chico?

Speaker 3 (01:12):
I am.

Speaker 1 (01:14):
You're on tour.

Speaker 2 (01:14):
Yeah, but DC can be selling more than you, or
Chico can be selling less than Callos. Callos can be
selling more than Chico. How does that not affect y'all?
How do y'all stay tailor made for the situation with
the wilding out thing?

Speaker 1 (01:31):
I spoke to Chico a few weeks ago. He talked
to me about.

Speaker 2 (01:37):
The like revenue sharing, y'all take a big homie perspective
on that.

Speaker 1 (01:43):
What what what what? What lends itself to that it's
only one difference between some description revenue and AD revenue. Right,
Even without all that, they still straight. Yeah, but as
a business, you have to sit down, like you have
people in your offices sitting down trying to figure out
how to amplify your app, how to amplify your content.

(02:06):
Subscriptions the month, who they know, who watched the TV,
who watched the phone, who got it on their computer,
on their ippad. But this is one of the biggest
companies in the world. So what I'm saying is we
don't even understand the scope of this. Sh just want
to exactly my man, Lord loans, old loan, new loan. Okay, okay, okay,

(02:32):
Ops is up there and stuck that n when it's
up there, Man, it's stuck there. Shut up.

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Speaker 1 (03:20):
Let's get back to the show and number six and
and they even it ain't even came out yet, it's
the first day. They gonna think that this got some
big numbers behind it. Ain't got nothing to do with
what I'm saying. You just said.

Speaker 2 (03:37):
I said, the hard numbers, the demographics behind the scenes. Okay,
when someone there's value to every viewer, there's an ad
company that wants to sell something to every person that
clicks on the eighty five South podcast NETg.

Speaker 1 (03:52):
Hick looking at it in a small I'm looking at it,
how Netflix looking at it? They're selling that data. Bro,
wait a minute, Netflix the whole cost. Everybody's selling data. Right,
I'm trying to get you to even understand what Netflix is.
It's a Netflix. This is where you watch all the
movies at right. Yeah, you think that it's just they

(04:12):
got one Netflix deal. Do you understand they got ads
against every movie on this mother point I'm making.

Speaker 2 (04:20):
This is a trillion dollar compt of course, so I'm
telling you that, but taking mind with it being a
trillion dollar company, every number counts. That's why on YouTube
and things, you can't have fake views and certain things
because they oddit in this because they're selling ads against it.
So what happens is Netflix is taking that hard data

(04:42):
that they're telling you it is useless. And it's unfortunate
that you were just hiring the business and thinking this
data is useless when this data is so important. You look,
you not even hearing with I'm listening, go ahead, you're
not hearing with them?

Speaker 1 (04:56):
How many more? How many more have a Netflix account?
First of all? Plenty everybody? Do you think they give
a what you're watching on there? Or they want you
to have this account? Who the company? Hell yeah, you
think they give what you watch? They don't, right, I do.
You can have a Netflix account and never watch nothing.
You don't watch Netflix every day.

Speaker 2 (05:16):
I think there's extreme value in what is actually being
watched on Netflix. One hundred percent think that the value
of Netflix lives in the people that are actually watching.
I do think you obscribing them, not because if they
gave it, if you watch it or not?

Speaker 1 (05:32):
Free? No, it's not free. Is twenty dollars a month?
Twenty five dollars a month?

Speaker 2 (05:38):
Yeah, and then debt every month from a being in perspective,
So what I'm telling you is it's a game being played.
They have a subscription model where people are paying the
twenty dollars a month. But if you're telling me that
you think that the actual viewership of a company like
Netflix is none and void, that's absurd.

Speaker 3 (05:57):
Bro Okay, all I'm saying years.

Speaker 1 (06:00):
They sell ads against the viewership of that company, against
the click through rate. They don't sell ads just on
based on who's signed up. They sell ads versus the
click through rate. All right, lord, it's way more complicated
than that. I'm okay, tell me, because I'm in it.
Tell me I know you in it too. We don't
have We will be here all day for me to

(06:22):
have to try to break down how these people make
all this money off of this. They don't give if
you watch this or not. Honestly, the numbers matter to
mother who give numbers, the people who trying to buy
some space, you know. And that's what I'm saying. And
that's only one difference between subscription revenue and ad revenue,
right bro, Even even without all that, they still straight. Yeah.

(06:46):
But as a business you have to sit down like
you have people in your offices sitting down trying to
figure out how to amplify your app, how to amplify
your content, how to amplify your comedy on all different levels.
And you're telling me that these these sections of the
business don't matter. I'm telling you the viewership is where
they sell. The ads gets the same way that you

(07:07):
guys do with your YouTube eighty five South and with
your your audio with black effects. You sell ads against
that audio in that video. No, man, do you not
understand how the world is working right now? Yeah? Netflix
is just like Google for the movies. They got every
movie in the mother world, every movie you could think of,

(07:28):
I would argue, damn without with the exceptions of certain movies.
But if you get a brand new Netflix account at
your new house and you watch one movie, do you
not know that they have enough information about you to
put all that you might positively in your lifetime while
you have this faction watch. Have you come over my
house and I've been watching Rambo and all this or other,

(07:50):
It's gonna be some on my Netflix that you don't
even know how to get to on your Netflix? Do
you not understand that we are literally in the matrix
no Netflix numb They don't give if you watch it
or not. If you don't have it, you're not gonna
wear to watch at this point. That's it.

Speaker 3 (08:05):
That's all I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (08:07):
And for you to say, oh no, this is it's
not just like, hey, it's not Walmart when you just
walk in and they got these mother getting money off
on in the site subscriptions, the mother who they know,
who watched it on TV, who watched it on their phone,
who got it on their computer on their iPad. But
this is one of the biggest companies in the world.

(08:28):
So what I'm saying is we we don't even understand
the scope of this like this is it like this
month is huge? It's that. Yeah, it's the new way
that we're gonna have to watch movies from here on that.

Speaker 3 (08:41):
I know that.

Speaker 1 (08:41):
So they don't give us. They put that, they put that,
they snuck that the traterarion with the ads and so
they that's that's the thing.

Speaker 2 (08:48):
That's another generation of revenue. So they have a tier
where you can have no ads. They have a tier
where you can go you know where, just to see.

Speaker 1 (08:56):
I'm gonna show you how good they are in business.
You actually believe that they losing money? Of course not
of course nine you said the red every quest.

Speaker 2 (09:08):
Yeah that, but I'm telling you because they're playing this
subscription game. Well, when the money come in, they put
it back out on content because they want to own
everything that's on their platform. So they spend the most.
Why you think they stole comedy from HBO? First, it
was everything that is absurd. That is, you don't think
that they bullied the market and took comedy from HBO

(09:32):
by offering comics ubsurves amount of money. No Comedy Center
and HBO they took it from them. No, okay, what's
your argument against that? Because I'm a comedian, Okay, so
tell me.

Speaker 1 (09:43):
Do you know that HBO can come and give me
a deal right now and it's still be the I
can have an HBO special steal HBO ain't win no
right now, I can argue I believe that now. But
for a moment, Netflix stole the market from them. Bro.
They was they was.

Speaker 2 (09:59):
They took every comic and gave them high amounts of
money to do specials on Netflix.

Speaker 1 (10:04):
Bro, they turned it down there into a comedian platform.
I feel like I'm arguing with my uncle at the
house on Thanksgiving. This information is dated, incorrect. Wow, it's
not correct. I can't believe said I'm dated. This comment
is gonna say he's watch He's gonna say the way
that putting it in a box, just Fox, I'm putting

(10:28):
it in You made it sound like HBO has turned
into Lifetime. HBO is still HBO as far as comedy
is concerned.

Speaker 2 (10:38):
Are you arguing as far as the market share is concerned?
The HBO is even existing as it pertains the comedy specials.

Speaker 1 (10:46):
Yes, give me one HBO comedy special. Bro. You probably
don't even realize how many comedies give me one next
that are produced by HBO. That's not give me one
Netflix com to give you one. You watch Netflix. I'm
telling you in the game that Cat Williams did five HBO.

(11:08):
I'm talking about present day, bro loan, give you give
me a woman. Pull up, pull up, pull up the
last special, HBO last time. Can you give me one Netflix?
Off the top of your head. You just watched Dave Chappelle,
Just do it. Pull it up now. Just I'm saying, dude,

(11:32):
you got the phone and you all cameras, HB, pull
up the one last watch this.

Speaker 2 (11:38):
This ain't nothing compared to Netflix, respectfully the HBO bro.

Speaker 1 (11:42):
Man, you tripping, Yo, you are tripping. I can't believe
you think of Netflix comedy and how many Comedy Central
special got the same effect as a Netflix. Yes, if
you that, it don't matter what platform you do it
on as far as and I ain't even talking about
the same effect. I'm talking about market share. Let's not

(12:04):
move the gold post.

Speaker 2 (12:05):
I said that as it pertains the comedy specials as
a whole, Netflix took the market from HBO in Comedy Central.

Speaker 1 (12:13):
That's what I said. You said, No, you said, HBO
right now is still in the race as it pertains
the comedies. He can't look how long it's taking? Well equipped,
I got it. He ain't willing. Boy, can a few steps?
I forgot hold on, I got you. Don't worry about it.

(12:34):
It's no way that you're arguing this though. You arguing
me just to argu me. Yo, can you believe this?
You can say, hey, yo, bro, can you believe he's
arguing this? Or what? Be real? Bro? It's no way
you telling me HBO specials. It's like that.

Speaker 2 (12:52):
It's no way you telling me that Netflix didn't steal
the market from HBO.

Speaker 1 (12:56):
Yes, I will. You can't even name your last HBO special.
I'm trying to find I'm shifting through this. I'm just
going through the list of comedians because now they got
a new wave of comedians. But HBO special is still
the most move You must be trying to get one
or something. I'm just letting you know it never lost

(13:17):
its value. You must got one on the low it Okay.
First of all, I hate this. I hate to do this,
but do you understand one of the the biggest comedy shows,
not special shows in in comedy TVs. The Larry David

(13:38):
Kirby Enthusiasm, who produced that HBO. Thank you. That's I'm
talking about. When Seinfeld come out and do his specialist.
It's some HBO that sitcoms. Okay, No, that's the stand
up comedy now, all right, all right, So we're gonna
let the comments fight that out because I believe, because

(13:59):
I believe that you believe I'm a comedian, and that's
what's And I'm letting you know that the HBO special
because if HBO wanted to put the money behind our meeting, no,
don't do me like that. Lord, I know I'm high level.
Don't do that. I have to do it.

Speaker 3 (14:15):
You know I'm You're not hearing me, You're doing me wrong.

Speaker 2 (14:18):
And that sauce at the end, man, you know that
ain't what we were talking about.

Speaker 1 (14:22):
If they wanted to the same way in Netflix, if.

Speaker 2 (14:29):
It's giving the Netflix for kibbles and bits, now that's
how they control the market. They went and gave Dave
and all these other their big money. And now he's
running to try to say, yo, I'm on the same Dave,
because they brought the audience there.

Speaker 1 (14:42):
The whole comedy audience is on Netflix. Nobody's checking for
HBO saying that a new comedy specialist out, Yo, you
bugging out. You're bugging out, You're bugging out. Okay, no way, long?

Speaker 3 (15:00):
What else?

Speaker 1 (15:00):
All right? Who do you.

Speaker 2 (15:04):
Do you like black comedy over white comedy?

Speaker 1 (15:08):
That's ridiculous, Absolutely not.

Speaker 3 (15:11):
I don't.

Speaker 1 (15:12):
I don't watch a lot of white comedy. You don't.
I don't get it. So you do like black comedy
over white comedy? Is it? Is that something you can't
say or something? No? I just I just never even
thought about it. I just well, I don't get a
lot of the white people humor, So you enjoy our humor.
Sometimes I can live at white people, but not white

(15:33):
people comedy, right, sometimes it'll hit me nobody, nobody. Yeah,
it's a few that stand out. I got a few
white people comedy.

Speaker 2 (15:41):
Do you think that black comedy translates better than white
Who doesn't?

Speaker 1 (15:48):
Why do you think not? Language barrier? Hmmm, language barrier.
I think it does. I don't.

Speaker 3 (15:57):
It depends on the crowd.

Speaker 2 (16:00):
I'm just saying from marketshare, like of the market of
the of the people that go to comedy shows that
the people that sell out tickets is a white comedy.

Speaker 1 (16:09):
Is white comedy bigger than black comedy? Yeah? Because it's
a bigger market. Like that's the case, the entire market
that we share.

Speaker 2 (16:18):
I would say, because it's more like white comic selling,
you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (16:22):
Yeah, because other races are more accepting of white people,
Like they look at black comedy it is like too
harsh sometimes.

Speaker 2 (16:32):
But they also but on the other side people to
argue that they look at us for their entertainment and
to come laugh at us.

Speaker 1 (16:39):
Yeah, it has it has certain aspects of that. But
it don't matter where you go in the world, it's
still gonna be some some white people at the show,
whatever the black event is, It's always gonna be a
certain group of white people that with it hard. But
it ain't never gonna be an overwhelming majority. Into you

(17:00):
get to that level where you done had four five
and Netflix specials. Now you're selling out where the Yankees
play baseball.

Speaker 3 (17:07):
Lead or some shit.

Speaker 2 (17:09):
So so if white comedy is better, just as a whole. Right,
So if we say, I wouldn't say better, it's just
not better. You got a bigger market, yeah, because I
don't want to use those words because it's not that
kind of competition.

Speaker 1 (17:21):
We're talking about marketshare. We're just looking at market share.

Speaker 2 (17:24):
So if white comedy has more market share than black comedy,
what would be the reason behind that is?

Speaker 1 (17:31):
You just think surely just volume. I just think it
what you like? You said, they're accepted more the type
of humor that white comedians do. They don't get too
graphic about you know what I mean, if some of
them do not not like black comedian. Yeah, you know
what I'm saying. They can really just talk in a
white people kind of way. You know what I'm saying.

(17:52):
They don't even really have to use no harsh language
for it to really just be like they just can
talk the way they talk piece of Yeah, you know
what I mean, that's pretty much like as hard is
it gonna get like here and there and it ain't
never gonna be you know what I mean A whole
I was watching, But that's the way we talk, and

(18:13):
we're not accepted for that. We get criticized on the
way that we communicate amongst a group of us, and
and they got the freedom to just beat them a
lot of times. You ever watched Dark Side of Comedy on?
What is that? I think it's on.

Speaker 2 (18:28):
I'm watch it on my firestick, but I think it's on,
So one of them, you know stations what is it about?
Goes behind the scenes and comics and kind of tells
kind of the other side of what's driving the jokes
and kind of sometimes that life is kind of falling
apart when they're at their peak, but they're performing at
a high level, you know what I'm saying, Like it
did one on Andrew Dice Clay.

Speaker 1 (18:50):
Yeah, that's it's hard to create good comedy when you
ain't bro you don't have no pain. That's where the
human comes from that because you gotta keep in mind,
we're letting people laugh at us. We really be going
through it. But the laughter and the good performances help
us deal with it, right, Yeah, And when our biggest
failures in life, you can once you can go on

(19:11):
stage and feel like you do that shit right, it
kind of make it feel better, right, I.

Speaker 2 (19:17):
Was looking at that, right, And so he wanted them
guys to say it a lot of wild shit, you
know what I mean. Like, I don't know if you're
familiar with him, but he didn't hold back on the
mic he was on. He was selling out Madison Square
and all that back in the day.

Speaker 1 (19:29):
But anyway, one of the one of the first comedian
rock stars, right, he would wrap do little ribs and
ship up there. Yeah, you know what I mean. But
if I go, he capitalized on a niche market.

Speaker 2 (19:42):
Right, but still I still put the black Like, say,
if I put him up there, who would cancel him
out from the black side as far as value?

Speaker 1 (19:53):
You know, be nobody to cancel him out because think
about it. As good as he was in his heyday,
he had Eddie Griffin on the road with him, Like
we it's black comedians there, but she is pride castling
mount you put it.

Speaker 3 (20:07):
That's why would you have to I'm.

Speaker 2 (20:08):
Saying, like comedy period, right, So if we go top
ten comedy from their side top.

Speaker 3 (20:15):
You're asking me, who would be the equivalent?

Speaker 1 (20:18):
Yeah, because I'm just trying. I mean, it's it's not
even a comparison though, because anybody, the only person, like
I would say, on the black side who was doing
that type of shit would be like, and.

Speaker 2 (20:30):
They gotta have Eddie Murphy. Oh I forgot about Edding
you gee know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (20:35):
Eddie Murphy was the real king of Mother the rock
star shit man. He was on a he was on
a Kevin Hart run. I forgot him in the eighties. Man, Well,
it don't even sound right for to say Eddie Murphy
was on Kevin Hart Run. Eddie Murphy was on Eddie
Murphy Run one of the runs, like Kevin Hart is
having for himself right now? Back then, Bro, this this

(20:57):
Eddie Murphy. Don't ever get it fucked up? Like is
he to hear him? But then he is him? Yeah?
Like him? Yeah, Eddie Murphy wanted to one. Eddie Murphy
is him? How many specials he got? H he got
a few though I know of too too, I think
and they classic yeah, delirious. Wonder would he come back?

(21:20):
I don't think. I don't think even I don't even
think he even want to. Bro. I feel like Eddie
Murphy can go on to it and not have nothing
prepared and do a new hour every night if he
wants to. It's Eddie Murphy. Yeah, they gonna He's gonna
get a thirty minute standing ovation before he say anything. Damn.
He wanted to want he is him. And the crazy

(21:42):
part is even if he the ship gonna be good, Bro. Yeah,
the ship that he just might throw away and never
do again, that ship gonna be some of the best
ship you've ever seen. It's him, and then you know
what we like? He gotta laugh that make everybody in
a man Erica lab Bro, I didn't even think of

(22:04):
Edite when I was thinking about that. I don't know
why Eddie Murphy is him though.

Speaker 2 (22:08):
But then I was thinking about Bill Burr because he
one of them guys that Bill Burr.

Speaker 1 (22:14):
You don't like him. I never I fuck with Frank Murphy.
I watched Elvis Family. Bill Burr is hilarious, that Nigga
is a fool boy. But then who would you put?

Speaker 2 (22:25):
Who would we have on our side that we can say,
all right, if Bill Burr come out, we can send
such and such on the stage after him. What I'm
asking you, Bro, I'm talking about for that audience too.
I ain't talking about for a black audience now. I'm saying,
like interchangeable that night one city, Eddie Murphy on this side,
Andrew dice Clay on that side, both of them going crazy.

Speaker 3 (22:48):
You feel who going first? I don't.

Speaker 1 (22:52):
That's what I'm saying, Bro. You're trying to have a
fucking comedy tournament and you want me to fill anything? Yeah,
because you're comedian. So I'm just asking I don't know.
I go up after all them niggas. I don't give
who it is, so yeah, I go up. They gonna
want to see me after that. Yeah, that's how I go. Yeah,
they gonna want to see me. You think I'm gonna

(23:13):
see it like okay, and then we'll put of course no, no, no,
just just me any anybody, any question that you need
a comedian.

Speaker 3 (23:23):
I'm only putting myself in there. That's just.

Speaker 1 (23:26):
After after all the ship that didn't happen this year.
I don't even have no opinions on comedians. No more.

Speaker 3 (23:32):
You don't a man.

Speaker 1 (23:33):
You say the wrong ship. Now you're in somebody interview.
I don't know. Don't ask me why. I'm only talking
about legends and people on the Mount Rushmore comedy.

Speaker 2 (23:45):
Yeah, but there's a lot of people to be spoken about,
and they don't need to dug no.

Speaker 1 (23:51):
No. The only people need to be speaking or are
the people who names. He said, that's it everybody else's opinion.
You can keep it if you say your name, shut up.
But what about the dress conversation? You've been on auditions,
you've been niggas. This is what I'm trying to get
you to understand them. Niggas who wore them dresses didn't
nobody to make them wear them. They wanted to do that.

(24:13):
They read the script. They knew months before they wore
a dress that they was gonna wear. Ain't nobody sneak
it up on them? They knew, They knew, they put
the makeup on, they set around set for hours. They
knew what the fuck they was doing. That shit fucked up.
That's what they wanted to if what you're not hearing

(24:35):
is how many times it was their idea? But is
it that idea out of force? Nope? Like it's like
it's like yo, it's like yo.

Speaker 2 (24:45):
I know for a fact, if I come in and say, Yo,
I got a booking for you, I can slide in.

Speaker 1 (24:53):
Can I get an interview too? Though?

Speaker 2 (24:54):
Nigga want a book you for fifty five hundred? But
when you're there, you don't mind doing this interview for
the podcast they got down there.

Speaker 1 (25:01):
Nigga throws shit in, but they leave with the goodsh lo.
This is a movie, doog I know? But sometimes it's okay,
let's talk about getting some green lit, because that's the
process you gotta go through in Hollywood and sometimes black
men say, Yo, if I put a dress on, maybe
it gets green lit. Maybe they gets it green these
a mother fucker's not shooting the movie first. The deal

(25:23):
is done when they put them dresses on. They had
to be on set at eight o'clock. At six o'clock
so they can be in hand makeup to be on
set that ate. They ate breakfast, They set around in
the trailer, they read over the script, they punched up
the lines. They went and got their makeup done again.
Dangn They knew what the fuck. They had a call sheet.

(25:47):
They agent called them and said, hey, we got this thing.
Blah blah blah, this is what they paying. You gotta
come here. You're gonna be staying. They knew what the
fuck it was. Thog.

Speaker 2 (25:57):
I agree with that, man, are with that? But so
you don't have an opinion on the Cat Williams interview.

Speaker 1 (26:04):
Why would I? He said he fucked with me. Yeah,
but he shook comedy up, you know, and then you
have a relationship with Cave Williams and with Steve Harvey.
This is the thing about it. If you got on
here and you were speaking about the people you had
your personal experiences with, why would I have an opinion
about it. I don't know who did you wrong, who

(26:26):
made you? Know what I'm saying, I'm just saying you
for an example, I don't know who made you. It's
people in the podcast world that you might not fuck
with for your own reasons. And if you got on
here and you said your reasons for not fucking with him,
that don't mean I gotta stop fucking with him. That
don't mean that they that I had the same experience
with him. That's just your experience. And I think it
was very personal. Who he had these experiences was and

(26:49):
he got to tell his side of the story. It
was whether people believe it or not, that's what he
saw happened to him. That's what he felt all them years.
That's what he said. And it wasn't no guessing. He
said such and such. He said they first and last name.
He got this problem with these five six people, Well,

(27:10):
what about who you doing? These one? I like these motherfuckers,
salute to y'all, but these people I don't fuck with.
That's it. You know.

Speaker 2 (27:18):
What I'm talking about is the overarching conversations that withdrew
from the Cat Williams conversation, which was stuff like jokes
stealing and have you been a victim of dad? What's
your opinion of jokes stealing? Is that prevalent in comedy?
And what steps of not being a victim of it?

Speaker 1 (27:40):
People still everywhere? It's Mother still in fresh fries at
McDonald's right now, they eat nuggets, They sneaking burgers. Motherfuck's
still not a Walmart in any industry, some shit gonna
get stole. That's Mother, that store, dope, guns, pistols, card
No matter what what industry are you in, some shit

(28:01):
gonna get stolen. I didn't been in the club tonight
that comedians that ran other comedians out the club for
doing a joke or saying some shit, or you know,
I didn't see motherfuckers go on the road and literally
use somebody else completely whole other shit. It's some comedians
have fought for that. Some people done got checked. Some

(28:23):
people do had to walk off and have a conversation
about it. Do you have to bend your values if
you're a comedian, like do you have to see things
like that and be non reactive? No, man, cause you
never know. Sometimes it be way more than just the joke.
It be niggas who be around you for years, Man,
who know that your shit? Who the road to the

(28:46):
show with you? Who done called you? Who done came
up and dapped you up? Man, that motherfucker aout. I
love that. And then next thing you know, they doing it.
You're like, Hey, you don't remember you said that. Man,
isn't napping every kind of way you seem zen now
in your life. I didn't have niggas that. I didn't
have niggas on my show do my joke before I

(29:08):
went on like on my show, on your own life show. Yeah, man,
that's why I really stopped. Like I used to just
use like local features and shit like that, but damn,
that's what made me stop. They just because it's like, damn,
even if things stealing from me, they stealing from somebody,
somebody signature shit.

Speaker 3 (29:30):
You know what I'm saying. It's fucked up.

Speaker 1 (29:31):
But that's just one of them things where it's like
nothing's new under the sun. And if some comedians feel
like if you talk about the same topic, you're steal
in their joke, why is it sensitivity around there? Because
everybody trying to make it and is it hard to
craft these jokes? It's not that it's hard to craft.
It's just some people get lazy. Some people just get

(29:55):
around certain people and just like, oh I can tweak that,
or I could flip that to the point where they
wouldn't be able to recognize it. That's just how the
shit go. I don't think I can be involved with it.
It seems like it's doggie dog man. It seems a little.

Speaker 2 (30:11):
Bit like like they're over zealous because people, like you said,
are trying to get out. But it feels like that
people are saying, yo, and I talked about my wife
and kids, and nigga this thing.

Speaker 1 (30:23):
I know you talking about your wife and kid. Hold On.
I was in the back of the comedy club one
night and a comedian on stage said, fellas give it
up for the ladies.

Speaker 3 (30:31):
Comedian in the back.

Speaker 1 (30:32):
Was like, man, this nigga, you're doing my shit. That's
a true story. Man. I I literally heard them say that.
But you know, it's think about it. Certain things, like
certain ways that just like comedians just address people in
the crowd, you know, just to try to build a
quick report. But hey, what's up, man, what's your name?

Speaker 3 (30:55):
Where you from?

Speaker 1 (30:56):
My boy? What you do? Some comedians be like, oh,
this this nigga. This this is literally standard crowd work.
You get what I'm saying, you don't. You just want
enough information for this person to build a quick report.
And you know what I mean, some some comedians to
look at that like still if you come out and
be like, what's up Atlanta? You know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (31:17):
This nigga think he he think he got you.

Speaker 1 (31:20):
Know what I'm saying. They do not off the what's up?
But lauder Man, I've seen it. I've seen hey, not
off the what's up? A laden mom man. Oh boy,
that's rough. That's rough right there, off the what's up Atlanta?

(31:42):
My nigga man doan said? Off man?

Speaker 3 (31:45):
That's fine? What's up Atlanta?

Speaker 1 (31:47):
Bro?

Speaker 3 (31:48):
I'm talking.

Speaker 1 (31:48):
I thank Steve exactly and nigga, I mean, just the
smallest little shit of trigger comedian man. So I flew
up here on Delta.

Speaker 3 (31:57):
Oh this nigga, finna do my ship?

Speaker 1 (32:00):
Here you go?

Speaker 2 (32:04):
What is very sens what the what the? What the
wild and out thing. I spoke to Chico a few
weeks ago. He talked to me about then like revenue sharing.

Speaker 1 (32:16):
That's a very interesting conversation for me and I thought
about that as as we had that conversation and we
talked more about it than the next part. But y'all
take a big homie perspective on that. What what what? What?
What lends itself to? That just an urban philosophy. Everybody

(32:40):
eas be everybody that's it. Sure, there ain't no books,
you know.

Speaker 2 (32:53):
I think, man, one of the things that separates you
is because you've been able to build this thing outside
of that. I think if that didn't happen, you may
view that a little different. What wilding up No, just
just sh just the revenue share perspective of it, because
that's a very interesting thing because you guys bring a

(33:14):
lot to it. It's already a staple, but you guys
in particular, you fly and she go bring this to it.
Like y'all proved y'allself outside of that market, right, And
that's a value to be set on that that y'all
go back in there because part of it was built there.
Y'all go back in there and say, you know what

(33:36):
I mean, we're gonna keep it real.

Speaker 1 (33:38):
It's just it's just crazy that we all went to
wilding out with like pretty much the same goal. You know.
What I'm saying is to try to get to the
next level, and who would ever think that that's the goal.
And if we all get to that level, that we
can still be partners even on that level. Shit, we

(33:59):
could do this ship together. We do ship. It ain't
nothing you can't do if we get to this next level.
So that's pretty much the mindset behind it. Like Nigga,
we ain't got it, do this, go out here and
be starts by selling Nigga. If we started it could
be the rat pack. We can still be We can
make that shit happen, happen we want to. And then

(34:21):
once we start putting it together and it just started
making more and more sense, and then splitting off and
going to do the solo thing and and still bring
it bringing something back to this just you know what
I mean, just scraping that little you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (34:35):
That's that's what made it go.

Speaker 1 (34:37):
And it sometimes it kills me.

Speaker 2 (34:39):
And back to that conversation about comics, right, and just
ticket sales and like putting Burr and and Cad up
there and fucking edit Murphy and all these guys and
Dice Clay or see, that's it's so many that you
can damn so like many that's why blacks got so many.
That's why I would argue that that I comedy translate

(35:01):
better because we got so many people.

Speaker 1 (35:04):
That sits at the top of that comedy list.

Speaker 2 (35:06):
You got Richard Pride, Eddie Murphy, Martin Lawrence, fucking Burning
Mad Cat Williams, Steve Harvey for all these people like
you can go on and on the white side.

Speaker 1 (35:17):
I start to get lost when I go Andrew, you
gotta keep it.

Speaker 3 (35:20):
It's certain.

Speaker 1 (35:21):
It's so many of them over there, and they so
big you don't even know. I know I be paying
attention though.

Speaker 2 (35:26):
And Russell Peters, Yeah, I know him all in Big,
Tom Shagirl Big, all the Vaughn, Burt Christ and Matt Rife.

Speaker 1 (35:36):
Them guys are huge. Burn Matt Rife was on Wilding
Out with us for five six seven, we went on tour.
That's dope. Now he out here taking over ship. That's dope, man,
that's my mother for I'm proud of him. Dudes like
Andrew Schultz, Hell, yeah, you see, you got wrung. I
went over. I did a podcast with Andrew shot back

(35:58):
in the day at his Mama Them crib. Now look
now he's one of the biggest stars in America. Hey, Shows,
I hate your mustache. Though I hate your mustache and
your haircut, that ship looked historically racist to me. I
can't wait for you to switch that up. Girl, go
to you or something. You look like a motherfucking uh

(36:18):
World War two pilot. Do you think he I think
he's doing it on purpose.

Speaker 3 (36:23):
I know he is. Yeah, I know he is.

Speaker 1 (36:26):
But so he locked in though he good got with
the right people. Yeah, he who got the right affiliations.
Now he out of here. But we knew this ship back.
But see listen when you got yeah, yeah, Louis c K.
I don't know Lewis c K. He ain't one of
my buttlems. You don't know Luis. I don't know him.
I don't know if he gave white man. But Louis

(36:46):
c K a big one over there. I know you
know Louis K. But I'm just tunding about the white
one of the big one who came up around us
with the MTV ship like Matt Riffan Andrews show.

Speaker 2 (36:57):
But see what we all show talking about is a
move of it, a move of the culture. Because we
also was just speaking it. We gotta watch you names
were putting in there when we're speaking about Eddie Murphys
and Andrew Dison. But what I'm trying to get you
to point, like, what I'm pointing out to you is, though,
is like Nigga, we got one Kevin Hart, right.

Speaker 1 (37:17):
He the biggest black comedian, right, But on the other.

Speaker 2 (37:20):
Side he could be ten Kevin Heart. But we got
Dave Schappelle, we got Kevin Dad. I'm saying is yeah,
that's but I don't think none of them Nigga's selling
out like.

Speaker 1 (37:30):
The next generation, like all these motherfuckers you.

Speaker 2 (37:33):
Name, yeah, they coming up. Who our next generation? Of
course y'all already smoking shit? What generation you think y'all live?

Speaker 1 (37:40):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (37:42):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (37:43):
I just I don't. I don't have a whole lot
of Like I just look at the people who was
in my classic comedians like Little Real and Damn Fool
and like Tiffany Hannish and Ron g and and at
least Deacon all of them, and Billy Surrels and Delay

(38:05):
and like you know, like and Clayton and watching. It's
a lot of those comedians that's like in my class,
Like who was a rent? Who was young Gunners? When
I started? You get what I'm saying, right, Like I
remember like Clayton Thomas and and Nate Jackson, like them,
all the dudes, who are who's the biggest side of

(38:26):
that class? Did I would probably out of our out
of classes, I don't know, maybe a little real he
did the most movies and ship like that on that side. Yeah,
Carlos Miller, Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. It's all I
feel like, I don't know. But when I look at
my peers, it's just I don't even look at it,
like who the most famous show got the most success.

(38:47):
I just see people who just making moves, who just
like our whole goal was to get into the game
and stay in here, but we do at some point,
if you you know what I'm saying, we would have
still stayed in It's like, Nigga, this this the whole experience.

Speaker 3 (39:01):
Everything at this point is extra.

Speaker 2 (39:03):
But at some point, if you're leading this, it's your
responsibility now to pave the way and position this thing.
You see what I'm saying, So like, would you say, heart,
them are the class before you?

Speaker 1 (39:16):
Yeah? Okay, we after them? Okay, Okay, you get what
I'm saying. If you look at where he is now
he been putting his he put his time in.

Speaker 3 (39:26):
Yeah, I don't know. It's what how long you been
doing comedy?

Speaker 1 (39:29):
Right?

Speaker 3 (39:30):
Like what maybe twenty five years or so?

Speaker 1 (39:33):
So at this point, yeah, I've only been doing eighteen
at least. Hell that ain't that was just ninety nine.
If you think about it, he might have been doing
twenty eight probably close to thirty at this point. Man,
you damn it just fucked me up. Twenty five years
ain't nothing no more. Yeah, he probably been doing comedy

(39:55):
since it was what seventeen eighteen years old?

Speaker 2 (39:57):
Yeah, but when we look at Sholts, he moves inventory,
you see what I mean? Like shows literally moves inventory
like y'all do, and and he moves Madison Square going
two or three nights at a time.

Speaker 1 (40:10):
Yeah, for comedy. He knows how to market that. He
been building that shit for the billion years though.

Speaker 2 (40:15):
But here's my here's my conversation I want to have
with you because I look at the comedy saying I
look at them, I say, all right, they may be
bigger by value, selling out more. You know, we may
got them a couple ones that's doing them numbers. But
like you said, it's a list of those as and
the list of them get you know, when we get

(40:36):
one no exactly, Now a new question becomes why is
that the case? And so I try to think about
podcasting because most of the big comics have a podcast.
When I look at black podcasting, y'all run the space
you in the read.

Speaker 1 (40:54):
It's the same reason why you can look up who
the number one podcasts on Apple Music, it'd be Whitney
and Britney, Connecticut, white girls who getting five hundred million
listeners a month. They got uh three hundred thousand dollars
worth of ads in the same way. That type of
shit happens, that happens in every industry.

Speaker 2 (41:17):
Or is it not enough quality comedy podcast that because
podcasts have proven if we look at the other side
of the market, which is the Joe Rogan's fear and
all of those guys burd crashing to Tom theo.

Speaker 3 (41:30):
See, that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (41:31):
If you were gonna you would like to do comparisons
like we don't have no we learned well we would
only the only person that we can have that can
compete in the media space, not just podcasts, would be
have to It would have to be somebody like Steve Harvey, right, right,
But but but they smiley like, that's that's the You're right,
Ricky can't do it. Steve can do it.

Speaker 2 (41:51):
Steve might be the one, Steve Kevin, those guys if
they really wanted to take it there.

Speaker 1 (41:56):
But it's rough. But this is do you see how
short the list of committee.

Speaker 2 (42:01):
What I'm saying, here's the game I'm trying to say,
and I'm trying to have this conversation. I'm learning by
and I'm not comparison. I'm studying, and it's important to
study the market. This is how you take over the market.

Speaker 1 (42:13):
But as I studied that that that what they're doing,
it looks like podcasting is a driver of tickets. Then
when I look at.

Speaker 2 (42:21):
Y'all with eighty five South, y'all tickets are doing well.
All across the world podcast doing well, there's a correlation.
May not be causation, but it's a correlation. But I
know for a fact that Rogan them are saying that
when I put a comic here, and this is eight
years ago, seven years ago, they were saying this, it
affixed the ticket sales. What that tells me is that

(42:42):
podcasting is a driver of ticket sales for comedy.

Speaker 1 (42:45):
Well, now, what podcasting does is it introduced like especially
if you're doing it consistently, it just is introducing you
to people who ain't fucked with you yet.

Speaker 2 (42:54):
So why does black part comedy podcasting really not have
a presence? Because while we say they sell out like that,
I can also name two bears one Cave which is
Tom and Bird Christ and I can name the theo
Von podcast. I can name the now we.

Speaker 1 (43:09):
Do have them because we got Daisy Banks with a
pretty big podcast.

Speaker 3 (43:13):
He got a podcast.

Speaker 1 (43:14):
No, you don't have a podcast? Gets who's at Marco?
Who's the nigga with the podcast.

Speaker 3 (43:20):
That's not necessarily at Marco?

Speaker 1 (43:22):
Is that a part?

Speaker 3 (43:23):
Yeah, I guess you would call it that.

Speaker 1 (43:25):
But does that help with tickets like it does on
the other side, You know, I don't know if it
I don't know if it translates the tickets, I don't know.
I think you just have to be constant, like consistent
with it online so you can keep building these different
markets up and people and build the need of people
want to see you. Do you think the part domand

(43:46):
do affect the ticket seal?

Speaker 3 (43:48):
Does it affect it?

Speaker 1 (43:49):
Of course it does because people have been watching our
podcast and then watching nine live shows and then like,
oh I fucked with one of these, so hot, lord,
I gotta come to support the live show. Or it's
still people who are fans of the podcasts who ain't
had the chance to come to a live show yet,
but they've been hearing about it, or they have come.

(44:10):
They've been coming since we first started, and they've been
watching since we was in a little club, and now
the last time we was there, we was in the arena,
and now they like, I never missed one because I
seen it from the insect. Right.

Speaker 2 (44:23):
It's always been like if, y'all, but we got black
comedy podcasts. I don't want to say we don't like
it's got a lot.

Speaker 3 (44:29):
It just takes a while before that.

Speaker 1 (44:30):
But y'all, I have a presence in the market. We've
been doing it for nine years though, it just take
a while for it to catch on. Yeah, it's probably
so many good podcasts out there that got that's done
by black people that we ain't found yet. And it's
some ship that we would never think that we would enjoy.
It's a black dude and his wife somewhere got a

(44:52):
show about cooking and being a good married couple. That
that's gonna be our favorite shit. Look at Tapatha Brown
as facts. That lady make me happy. I don't know
what it is about that lady, but when I see
that lady on my timeline, I feel like that auntie,
like I give her the same respect. I'd be listening.

(45:12):
She'd be like, hey, damn, and that's your be Like,
I fuck with it, and I love to see her like
just take off. I love it. And that's what I'm saying.
We we there's so many of us that are built
like that that the world need to see. That's why
you get to see all these tiktoks and like the
old g's and the uncles talking shit at the gas stage.

(45:33):
I love that you get what I'm saying. But think
about if these motherfuckers knew how to work social media,
they'll be on you give it one, every one of them.
Do you understand that Charleston White break the Internet every day? Yeah?
But do you understand every hood got her? Everyone got
five or six of them. Everyone They got more outrageous
opinions than your one. What happened to that interview? I

(45:57):
don't think I ever heard you speak about that that
interview got took down. People want to know what happened?

Speaker 3 (46:03):
What do you mean it got took down?

Speaker 2 (46:05):
People were saying that the eighty five southn interview with
Charleston White was removed from YouTube. Why you own eighty
five South? I think it's interesting you're asking me why.
I'm just saying why that happened?

Speaker 1 (46:20):
It's your time to tell her the hundreds of thousands
of people that love to watch you. Oh, I don't know.
I don't explain myself to nobody. I don't know what
happened you sometimes, hey, sometimes happened. You ain't never looked
on YouTube and you saw some contentness, They ain't never
took none of your shit down and didn't tell you
what that boy cooking y'all. I'm just asking, haven't they

(46:45):
took some of your shit down before? That boy cooking? Y'all?
Just how shit go? You know? I loved him when
a nigga cook, I ain't a liing. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (46:55):
Must have said the wrong shit.

Speaker 1 (46:56):
I don't know. I guess you know how people steal
your content and then try to report yours. What if
that happened?

Speaker 3 (47:07):
That ain't never happened to you.

Speaker 1 (47:08):
Yeah, done happening. Now. If I go on YouTube right now,
it's a nigga saying that he owned the content, right.
I mean, I see the interview pop up on my
YouTube something. I don't see it pop up on my
page though.

Speaker 3 (47:22):
Uh oh, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (47:26):
There's a lot of theories behind that shit. People told
me the tip called us and made us take it down.
Ain't nobody that did no shit like that? Stop making
up shit. I don't run YouTube. I don't know what
you shit. They might flag me smoking this blood. I
don't know what it could be anything, but that's the game. Baby,

(47:50):
it happened. Got to respect it.

Speaker 3 (47:51):
It ain't me.

Speaker 1 (47:52):
Didn't they delete a whole bunch of Charleston White content
off YouTube? I don't know they did at one point?
You come on, man, they did, now you know, I
mean when all his social media pages and ship got
banned and they do remember them. You don't remember that,
So what make you think I had something to do
with it? He said, thank you, thank you. Yeah. But

(48:18):
sometimes the content world get crazy, man, I mean, I
know it does. I just don't feel like I should
have to explain it. It's so many things that could
have happened. He had somebody sitting right there that recorded
the whole show on the live stream as we were
doing it. They put it on their page and then
try to report my page and they say they got
to what's gonna happen? You don't know this. I'm not

(48:41):
on here to teach all this media. Ship I don't know.
Ain't nobody did nothing. It wasn't what y'all thought it was.
It wouldn't have shit to do with me, like we
just got in my feelings and deleted. Come on, man,
make it makes sense. And you still say his name,
You still say like, I don't have no beef. Did

(49:02):
nothing happen. Ain't nobody said nothing about no ship like that.
I can't even believe you and ship like that? Well,
you know I had that. Who almos be upset that
motherfucker had me? As if I got that? Why would
I now ask that that forgot me? And you? You?

Speaker 2 (49:16):
You you a shot call on this side? You know
what I'm saying? Why would I not ask that? That's important?

Speaker 1 (49:23):
Got the app? Bro? If you go on the app,
you could pull up whatever eighty five South Show content
you want.

Speaker 3 (49:32):
It's on now. It's on the app.

Speaker 1 (49:35):
If you get an app, okay, you just pull up
whatever content you want to watch. It's just all you
gotta do is just take a little research. Just do
a little research, right, I mean they go right there
on the app, sitting right there, right there on the app.
So what that tell you? Sitting right there, get that app?

(49:55):
Get down channel eighty five eighty five, just like that.
You saw it on the air, you saw it on the app. Okay,
it ain't in no private section or nothing.

Speaker 3 (50:05):
It's right there right up.

Speaker 2 (50:09):
So and I think sometimes he'd be willing to ask
for clarification without just asking who Charleston, Like, I think
that was his way of trying to get you out
at like what happened? Like you know what I mean,
what happened because he you know, there was people pushing
out saying that like them nigga got a phone call
because he was.

Speaker 1 (50:26):
Type ship telling my tip son or something. You remember
that ship Marco took his ship down. It wasn't just y'all.
So it felt like but you said YouTube said who
is YouTube? I don't know.

Speaker 3 (50:39):
I don't know if that.

Speaker 1 (50:40):
I'm just saying, plenty of shit happen. You don't know
what happen. I know it is in the app.

Speaker 3 (50:45):
It is up there.

Speaker 1 (50:47):
It's up there. Know what the fuck happened. That's not
my department. Shit, But for you still champion them, so
that ain't nothing. Yeah, that's what why was some media? Yeah, man,
ain't what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (51:04):
Yeah, And I know you're consumer of this ship, so
I know you what I know, when you enjoy something,
you really don't put your you don't put your time
in like studying it.

Speaker 1 (51:14):
You know what I mean to enjoy it? You know
what I mean?

Speaker 2 (51:16):
Like you really you know, dude, you know kind of
what he beyond. You know what I'm saying. I think
I'm gonna do a live show with him at some
point like I did with War. You can come out, man,
do it as what come out when you come after that?

Speaker 3 (51:32):
Yeah, I come to some shit like that.

Speaker 1 (51:34):
Broh. I still watch a lot of Chance to White shit.

Speaker 3 (51:37):
They be hilarious to me.

Speaker 2 (51:38):
Yeah, I'm forget you to come out front Road, you
and your family whoever.

Speaker 1 (51:42):
That ain't That's why I'll be saying from where I
come from, bro, that ain't no nigga. You can stay
mad at bro, that's just crazy air. God damn you
know what, depending on your feeling, that's your uncle, your cousin,
bro who say some wild shit. You cut him off
for a minute and you see it. You can't stay
mad at that nigga man.

Speaker 2 (52:00):
But from a being in perspective, it's a totally different game.

Speaker 1 (52:03):
I want to talk to you about. I want to
talk to you about that business business business, benness.

Speaker 2 (52:08):
I want to talk to you about that time in
comedy where Ricky Smiley and Arna's j had a special
needs character.

Speaker 1 (52:16):
What do you think that should come back now? But
do you understand I have performed all over the world
for people who have quote unquote disabilities or lost limbs
or you know what I mean, So it might not
be acceptable.

Speaker 3 (52:33):
Now.

Speaker 1 (52:33):
What I'm saying is there's a way to make fun
not of somebody, but to make fun of a situation,
to find a human some shit without offending people.

Speaker 3 (52:49):
You get what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (52:50):
I enjoyed Arna's J and and Little Darryl right, And
there are people who are in those similar situations who
also enjoy that. Cause It's like if you go with
the Ricky Smiley page and you see the type of
work that he does with the kids and people with
special needs and shit like that. He do this shit

(53:11):
on the regular, so it's not like he's saying, hey,
I'm making fun of these people. Hey, this is what
I saw. This is how my cousin be. And then
you can go to your page and you can see
your real cousin on there and get that good damn faith.

Speaker 2 (53:25):
It hit way man that when I were coming up,
that I thoroughly enjoyed that comedy, like just to see
Ricky Smiley even though he would just pop into it
sometime and then like Arn's Jay is just popping to
his brother whoever. He would act like his brother riding
and walk across the stage and shit, And I was
just every single time that shit would be funny. But

(53:48):
it's like nowadays, I'm not sure if that if that's
or is that being done That probably is being done
in the comedy club a way.

Speaker 1 (53:58):
Like I said, as long as it's not malicious, right,
it's ways to make a joke about anything and make
it funny, as long as you're not making it personal
enough where it can hurt nobody feelings. That's the that's
the different, that's what makes a comedian great. To be
a lie though to say ship without saying it, or

(54:18):
to be able to joke about things that's not you
know that people don't want to be joked about. Like
if you go back and listen to the old Robin
Harris ship, he had Debo tiny in the audience, and
you know he was done for whooping niggas ass for
talking about his eye. And Robin Harris was you know,

(54:38):
he had built such a rapport with him from him
coming to the club every week that he let him
get you know what I'm saying. He still played the character,
but he wasn't gonna really do nothing. If you go
back and see it, because it's they got it recorded
on an old Robin Harres ship where he was doing
his ship, Debo used to come to the club and
fuck with him. See that. That's the That's the key thing, man,

(55:01):
because I haven't seen people get upset at comedy clubs
about like I'm talking about, like fighting mad and actually
having fights and brawls and shut the whole club down.

Speaker 3 (55:10):
I remember one night.

Speaker 1 (55:11):
I ain't gonna say who the comedian was because it's
just it's crazy, but I was at the spot one
night and it was this Albano dude in there and
the comedian was fucking with him. He wasn't even really
getting no laughs for the ship that he was saying.
But the dude, like god so mad, he was spurious though,
he went like stormed out the club and he was

(55:34):
just like sitting in the car like I walked outside.
He was sitting in the car like literally beating the
ship out of the steering wheel like he was going
but sirk. His people had to go get him. Bron God, Yeah,
did you ever have a heckler you had to deal
with Hill? Yeah, I done had some of the worst
heckless man. Give me one of them, just a terrible,
worst heckless man like you wanted, like a heckless story.

(55:58):
Like I don't know if you're familiar with it Atlanta
comedy scene, but Bro with jet now was kind of
explaining it to me. The worst heckler in Atlanta comedy
history and my generation of comedy probably Little Baller, Little Baller,
and god damn Rico little Baller my partner though, Okay,
but that's just his thing. He's always heck the hell

(56:20):
out of comedy. Sco Bubble was at mother fucking resting
piece of score, Bobber but man some of the worst
hecklers is comedians worst heckless comedian bro Corey Hogan would
be in the club like if a comedian on stage,
and Obama you always have Coury like Corey Hogan and
Jeff b. They used to be notorious for like, Man,
get your garbage jass out of here, or you're in here,

(56:42):
Cory go dirty South rest in peace. She used to
always say, get these hilarious saying niggas off the stage.
Oh goodness, so many classic knights. Bro. I'm glad I
got to actually come up in that era of comedy
around that it's quite bt comedians, no, but in Atlanta,

(57:07):
it's just that's a hug. So all the comedians that
come through the city back in those days and just
do all the rooms, and do all the clubs and
do and just be here for a week or two,
just running through all the spots man doing everything from
the poetry spot to the you know what I mean,
uptown comedy corner. So it was always people in and out. Yeah.
Do you think what's the next phase for eighty five

(57:30):
Sounds movies. We're gonna We're gonna really need to do
a part two of the Netflix Ship. That needs to
We need to follow up, right, definitely need to follow up.
We need a movie, We need a cartoon or something.
We need some cartoons. I want, I want you to do.
I want to be involved with this needy, fast South

(57:51):
comedy club, a comedy club. We might do that later
on down the line.

Speaker 2 (57:56):
I think, yeah, I think I think that that the
hub that you speak about, you guys, can now be
that hub. You know what I'm saying, Like, if there's
a even this this building can act as that. You
know what I'm saying. But I'm saying not this building,
well not this building, but whatever. But I'm just saying,

(58:18):
at some point, I feel as though that y'all can
be like the place that like shoot the poolball out
right or the place that the poolball is shot out of,
and that's legacy.

Speaker 1 (58:31):
Yeah, you know what I mean. So, but you know
how to keep it mind. We're still active in the game,
spreading our legs out. This is only the phase one
of us, right, you know what I mean? Some people
look at it and be like, it can't still be
phase one.

Speaker 3 (58:43):
Yes it is. We ain't maxed out phase one yet.

Speaker 1 (58:46):
So once we get you know, established, well, we want
to take our brand to and then.

Speaker 3 (58:51):
Maybe we'll do some shit like that.

Speaker 1 (58:53):
But how long have you still opportunities? Right?

Speaker 2 (58:57):
How long have you been on wilden Out? I've been
on it since they brought it back? How long is
that many years?

Speaker 1 (59:04):
That was what ten eleven years?

Speaker 3 (59:07):
Damn?

Speaker 1 (59:08):
Yeah? But hell that's like I think I did probably
seventeen eighteen season goodness something like that. That's a long run.

Speaker 2 (59:18):
And that's what what and that's it's always Viacom, but
it's moved station like MTV, MTV two, stuff like that as.

Speaker 1 (59:25):
You Yeah, Comedy Central Central, Yeah, it's Viacom, so they'll
play that ship on all them channel. Yeah, but you
know it went from MTV two to MTV. Shout out
to them, folks, man, they shut We have a very uh,
crazy ass relationship because as much as they don't fuck
with me, they do right. So yeah, do you think

(59:52):
why why do you think or do you think that
the role that you play on wild now it can
translate to other roles? For I come, who knows business
is business? Have they?

Speaker 2 (01:00:04):
Have you ever been asked to audition for something through them?
Because I mean, if you you you have a worker
relationship with them, it may be through Nick Cannon's company
or whoever's company, but it's like, and.

Speaker 1 (01:00:16):
I think I don't know if it's necessarily one of
those things where to be like an audition. So unless
it was something that they weren't famil they know pretty
much what I do. They got all this take out,
hours and hours of tape on me, right, They've seen
me do shit. They know where my weapons are for
the most part, as much as you can use them
on there.

Speaker 3 (01:00:35):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:00:36):
But you're interested in acting outside of being in a
comedy role, yeah, I.

Speaker 1 (01:00:41):
Think that's the best ship for comedians. Comedians be the
best actors, so they would we can do anything right
like you would probably see. I think my breakout roll
gonna be some shit. Ain't got nothing to do with
comedy though, that's easy. But but I don't want to
be a villain. Yeah, fire seasons of one of them
drug Dealer series or something, just being a terrible motherfucker

(01:01:04):
on the Yeah, I've been talking it up. I done
had a few little auditions that almost hit right. I'm
I'm on there. Yeah, And so that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:01:13):
But the key is your weapons as a comedian, even
though they would know you that you would have to
come in and show them some kind of.

Speaker 1 (01:01:22):
There'll be an audition process for yeah, most definitely, Yeah,
most definitely. But you know once you get through the
initial process, but it's gonna be somebody who's been been
watching this ship for a minute, who ain't who already
know exactly where I'm.

Speaker 3 (01:01:34):
Supposed to be at.

Speaker 1 (01:01:35):
Do you think, I'm sure you can't. Some shit is
just you can't even get ready for. Just do it. Yeah,
have you audition for anything before? Audition for a lot
of things? What was that like? It's kind of stressful, Yeah,
because some like you get used to the process of

(01:01:56):
being placed or being picked, and then when you have
to audition, you don't feel like you got you feel
like you're being picked. Right. Sometimes you can be like
Bigger Ship. Of course they want you to audition. They
finna put a whole bunch of money back right right right,
they got it. But it's still a weird. But some
ship they really just know that you that they want

(01:02:18):
you for specifically, And I think those are some of
the better opportunities for actors when you picked based off
who they are, those are doing what you are already, yeah,
because those auditions can get weird, like, but then you
end up and sometimes you'll try to end up in
some ship that you wasn't even the right choice for you. Ever,
hear about who was supposed to be who in the

(01:02:39):
movie and you be like, what, how the fun was
that gonna work? Right? Yeah? Yeah, I don't like that.
I don't like when niggas do that. Sometimes you just
look up and like, man, I'm glad that shit ain't
work the fuck. But yeah, it's so.

Speaker 2 (01:02:52):
But I think the process of audition and it's weird,
Like it's like.

Speaker 1 (01:02:56):
Like thinking the niggas who tried to be in Ray Man.
Can you imagine being a nigga who was right there
behind Jamie Fox and Ray No, nobody else could have
did that. Yeah, it's over with. He smoked that, right.

Speaker 3 (01:03:11):
You think, Jamie, we need you to come in for
one more audition.

Speaker 2 (01:03:15):
You think here, you think he'll be a that his
acting skills were affected by what happened to him, You
know what about his comedian skills?

Speaker 1 (01:03:24):
No, bro, no, we ain't even mention his name, Jamie Fox,
because he is he He is in there, that nigga
over there, and like in the Hall of Fame. That
nigga kind of got like his own little hallway swoop,
like if he was walking through a comedy museum like
that nigga got his own little swoop.

Speaker 3 (01:03:41):
It's just him. That motherfucker's amazing, bro.

Speaker 2 (01:03:45):
That nigga motherfucker bro for real saying and every act
that boy smoked everything, and he went and conquered Hollywood.

Speaker 1 (01:03:55):
But he put the dress on and just go to
show you even when he did that, he was what
still one of the funniest motherfuckers. Yeah, but why is
that repetitive putting a dress on? I heard one of
them niggas tell you, because if you just want to
get technical of it, it's it's a layer of comedy,

(01:04:20):
you think. So, yes, the Flip Wilson, Yeah, but why
do we still that's what? What year was that?

Speaker 3 (01:04:28):
Shit? This is the seventies.

Speaker 1 (01:04:30):
We in twenty twenty four, and w don't use.

Speaker 3 (01:04:33):
No joke from the seventies. Shire They all from the seventies.

Speaker 1 (01:04:37):
We use concepts from the seventies. I'm not defending the
ship either way. All I'm saying is, man, it is
what the f That's what my mama say.

Speaker 3 (01:04:48):
People who did it.

Speaker 1 (01:04:49):
She don't want me to wear no dress, of course,
but she like Lord, I highly doubt they would come
in and ask you to put the dress on. Yeah,
of course not. I don't even know who created this
monster of whoever the fuck they think is handing out
dresses in everybody's side. Man, you know what the fuck
going on. They know who they want for that shit.

(01:05:09):
Now if these people don't, if they came to you
right now and say we got a road for you
in a dress, I can't do it. Yeah, I even
went this long without it. I know it's something else
coming for me. So that means that, that means that
let me know that the motherfuckers who make movies got
my numbers some kind of way. Now, the wrong motherfucker's
got my number. But now I know that the motherfuckers

(01:05:31):
who're making movies just getting my numbers some kind of way.
All I gotta do is wait.

Speaker 2 (01:05:35):
This shit out, forget what this how crazy the game is.
I was reading the article that the guy allegedly because
Pat McAfee is going through something with ESPN, so allegedly
the executive over at ESPN would tell Stuart Scott that
he cannot say boo yard. He he doesn't think that

(01:05:58):
the translations well right, he would, he would. Now, what
I'm trying to get you to understand is it be
unreasonable expectations.

Speaker 1 (01:06:05):
There's another dude, Jeff van Gundy. He used to call
the games.

Speaker 2 (01:06:08):
The man told him that when they flash on you,
I need to see allegedly, I need to see your
hands together on camera. I don't like when your hands
are you know, out Then he told him cut his mustache.

Speaker 1 (01:06:22):
What is happening at ESPN.

Speaker 2 (01:06:24):
So what I'm saying is I don't think it'll start
at the dress. I think they try they bring unreasonable
shit to see if you're being like, hey, cut your mustard,
that right, all that right there?

Speaker 1 (01:06:36):
Cut all that now.

Speaker 2 (01:06:38):
Sometimes that's a role that's happened, That's what I'm saying.
But sometimes I think they blur those lines where it's
like is this still for the role?

Speaker 1 (01:06:47):
It's like, is we still in some is this? Hey? Man?
This is what I'm trying to get you to understand
is when when those people go in there and they
do that shit that embarrassing or condescension, whatever the fuck
is it weird, whatever it is they doing, they know
what the fuck they're doing, and they agreed to that.

(01:07:09):
They're not sneaking that ship up on nobody but for opportunity.
A nigga get nigga. Sometime nigga go for shit for opportunity.
But think about how freaking this fucking game is now,
thinking how crazy the world is. They literally got niggas
out here who addresses every day, and they act us too,
and they don't give no fuck about that shit.

Speaker 3 (01:07:29):
You think they ain't gonna call them first? They not.

Speaker 1 (01:07:34):
They're not finna go the comedian word, smoking weed and
feeling on big.

Speaker 3 (01:07:39):
Titties and ask me to do that ship.

Speaker 1 (01:07:41):
They ain't. That's not what they want me. Fuck, I
know that ain't what they want me to do. Ain't no,
ain't nobody over there trying to fuck me. I ain't
worried about that. I'm gonna come in do my if
they want me here for what there too, i'ma do
my freeze. Motherfucker. Hey, good job, Colors. Gonna get the
fuck out of here so we get back to the
weird shit we was doing before you came over here.

(01:08:03):
They don't want me around for no long time. They
because the weird ship gotta get done. That's what they do. You, hey, man,
when they call you for your movie role and they say,
all right, you're gonna be on set for two days.
You're playing the bank security guard. All you gotta do
is this, this and this situ all you phenomenal? Baby?
You don't know what the fuck else scenes they shot

(01:08:24):
when you left. That's true, that's true. This whole movie
might be about niggas. Interesting, damn man, what what happened
with you know? What?

Speaker 3 (01:08:37):
Do you see it?

Speaker 1 (01:08:38):
Your scene was great, though, right after that niggas went
to the ballet.

Speaker 3 (01:08:42):
And turned into a squad.

Speaker 1 (01:08:43):
You don't know what the fuck happened after your scene.

Speaker 3 (01:08:45):
That's true, That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:08:49):
Bro. So even if you don't fucking around and do
no ship like that, you don't know what the fuck
else is gonna be in the movie. Nah, I'm listening
to you though, right.

Speaker 2 (01:09:05):
That makes sense because you don't They don't tell, especially
somebody that's coming in for those kind of roles. They
don't really share that kind of information what all of
this is about. You may know your role, your name,
your lines, but you don't have any control over the
final editor. Those things you damn sure don't.

Speaker 1 (01:09:22):
Yeah, that's crazy, man. I talked to you about this
and then what closed this out? Man?

Speaker 2 (01:09:28):
I think, uh, did you listening to young Dolph? Most
definitely who that's one of your favorite?

Speaker 1 (01:09:36):
Or yeah, Dolph is definitely up there because you know
Memphis right there from my hometown, Mississippi. I have been
on Dolph since he really first came out because he
used to always come and you know, do all all.

Speaker 3 (01:09:47):
His local shows and shit was in North Mississippi.

Speaker 2 (01:09:50):
Right yes, I think his independent ground. Who did you
grab your grind from? Like you, I'm gonna hustle this
out because you could have got stuck over there on
their tea TV world in that wild and out circuit.

Speaker 1 (01:10:02):
You could have got I wouldn't mind. I wouldn't mind it.
TV is a great job. But damn, br you done
built this beautiful thing? Why would you say?

Speaker 3 (01:10:11):
Because I know how to balance both.

Speaker 2 (01:10:14):
That's a beautiful to have that kind of perspective on life.
I think greed causes us to react different. It causes
like me to say, damn, bro, with all you gain,
you can look back and say if I never got
none of that, I'll be fine just over there, you
know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (01:10:30):
I say I got the spirit someon go ahead, because
it's like this was still gonna happen eventually. Like I
was still like even if I was on TV with
a regular hustling, I'm stacking that bread you get.

Speaker 3 (01:10:43):
I'm like a good I'm a regular.

Speaker 1 (01:10:46):
I'm talking about the whole contract negotiated for the next
five six seasons. And they don't rot your boy some bit.
You think I wouldn't have no ship like this to
come back to Atlanta too. He maybe even bigger or
be building on some ship like this most definitely. What
does it mean to be a regular? I mean that
you you wanted the people who want them on the

(01:11:08):
flyer for the show.

Speaker 3 (01:11:09):
When they advertise the show, it's you, Edie Murphy, Nick Noted,
and Chris Rock. It's just y'all three on.

Speaker 1 (01:11:17):
Y'all got the big picture on it, right, not some
nigga who name in the credit, Like, right, nigga, you
ghost on Power? Yeah you you Tariq, You were regular.
You got a whole you about to do five seasons
of it? Yeah, they ain't paying you per episode, Nigga,
your contract, You're finna get paid for three seasons.

Speaker 2 (01:11:34):
Right, Yeah, gonna get you straight you all you out
the wait?

Speaker 3 (01:11:39):
Yeah yeah, don't get me out of the way.

Speaker 1 (01:11:42):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. I can respect that. The
folks came with blah blah blah, then they wanted and
then ship I can respect like when you got when
you got? Not the motherfucker who being Tyler period movies
like his people, the ones who about to be on
three four fist six shows this year they finished check
to check them. They need a whole situation, right them?

Speaker 2 (01:12:05):
The one an exclusive exclusive right did you when you
started eighty five?

Speaker 1 (01:12:09):
Who was it was? Was it ever? Was it? This
group you got now? Who was here at the inception?
Like comedians? Me and d C? Y'all too? Yeah, so
it's always been y'all. Are you can you? So?

Speaker 2 (01:12:24):
Are you interested in going on tour without d C
and Chico? I am you on tour? Yeah, I already
do that. We all love.

Speaker 1 (01:12:34):
But how do y'all maintain the camaraderie when like d C?

Speaker 3 (01:12:40):
We always we've been doing that from the beginning though.

Speaker 2 (01:12:43):
But DC can be selling more than you, or Chico
can be selling less than Callos. Calos can be selling
more than Chico. How does it not affect y'all? How
do y'all stay tailor made for the situation and something
like that.

Speaker 1 (01:12:56):
Because that's not even how this is work. You know
what I'm saying, Like, that's I don't even know how
you answer that, because that's never been there the case.

Speaker 2 (01:13:06):
Well, because I've seen so many groups, like if we
we grew up in hip hop, we very rarely I
don't know one group we saw make it to the
end without breaking up at one point.

Speaker 1 (01:13:17):
That's why I celebrate y'all so much. But that's what
I'm saying that it never can be that I hold God.
When we started this, we I have a show on Friday,
Chico got show on Friday, DC got to show on Friday.

Speaker 3 (01:13:28):
I'm in Chicago here and Detroit Hill.

Speaker 1 (01:13:30):
But Sunday we got a show. We're gonna all come
from where we came from to come together exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:13:36):
But at some point, what if they they they may
have to and and you guys gotta be prepared to
have their conversation at some point if that happens. But
that may be a plucking of one of y'all out
of that so he may be a little more busier
than the other two. And you gotta be that that
they can't affect the relationship. And although that.

Speaker 1 (01:13:55):
Sounds easy, it is.

Speaker 2 (01:13:57):
We grew up in hip hop when we saw each
in every one of the groups fall victim to some
kind of.

Speaker 1 (01:14:05):
Hate inception. You see what I'm saying, or comparison. We
was already in ourselves before that. We didn't have I mean,
what would what would be the cause of the breakup?
Not a breakup.

Speaker 2 (01:14:18):
I don't even want to say a breakup because now
it's just the resentment of the feelings of resentment, right,
because again, we're human beings. We've saw in hip hop,
g units broke up like murder inks broke everything that
We've saw every.

Speaker 1 (01:14:32):
Group, name me, a group that took three six broke up.

Speaker 2 (01:14:35):
Everybody's broken up at some point, and we've looked at
them in that g units broke up. Fucking the locks
have fell out before, Like you see what I'm saying.
It's like we've looked at these situations and said, damn, man,
how do we stick together? That's why I celebrate y'all
on platforms. Y'all don't even know about.

Speaker 1 (01:14:53):
We gonna well. I mean, I don't even even know.

Speaker 2 (01:14:55):
I'd be like, yo, them dudes, they are able to
get money together, get money set, push it together together,
get How do they do that?

Speaker 1 (01:15:04):
That's love? I can appreciate that. That's what it is.
Is that, bro, we really, first of all, were fans
of each other. Right then we done been through so
much shit together. It's like we real live family, you
know what I'm saying, bro Like, and then we're all
men of faith. Ain't nobody trying to do nothing to nobody.
Ain't nobody trying to faith like I want I want

(01:15:26):
for my brother, what I want for myself.

Speaker 3 (01:15:29):
That's it.

Speaker 1 (01:15:31):
I would I would celebrate Chico in d C the
same way. But they success is I'm a fan of
your success. This the ship that we sit around and
talk about this moment, your moment, what your moment looked
like for you. Ah, that's when you okay, So when
you get to this point, then with okay, that's a
gold all right, bet Oh nigga, this was Oh my boy,

(01:15:53):
my nigga, I'm so well, you're a non believed like
because it's like, by the time the world hit this ship,
we already un disgusted, right, we already celebrated for each other.

Speaker 3 (01:16:03):
Who you think I'm gonna call first? With the good news.

Speaker 1 (01:16:06):
When them people call me with the five six season,
Oh my nigga, guess what? Yeah, they just hit me
you I'm finna do this. Who you think finished?

Speaker 2 (01:16:14):
Come on, man, But it's important to tell the youngsters that,
because they've witnessed in our same culture, all of these
groups not be able to maintain at y'all level.

Speaker 1 (01:16:23):
Bro.

Speaker 2 (01:16:24):
I don't know if you. I don't know if you
really understand that. But you're a fan of hip hop
and somebody google it, namely one group they stayed out.

Speaker 1 (01:16:32):
Look at all, look at the aftermath of this, Mason
Cameron having the time of their life. You know why.
It's just like in life when Ray and Ray and
claud started back talking, they fell out over some ship
that they could have been fixed. Right, It wasn't never
that they couldn't talk about it, right.

Speaker 3 (01:16:52):
Who's to state they ain't been talking?

Speaker 1 (01:16:53):
Right?

Speaker 3 (01:16:54):
You think the first.

Speaker 1 (01:16:55):
Time they link back up was on camera.

Speaker 2 (01:16:57):
It don't work like that never now, No, But I,
like I said, I celebrate y'all every time I'm in
other rooms.

Speaker 1 (01:17:07):
I'm like, yo, those brothers. Every group didn't break up?
Who all the groups didn't break anyone? See, there's a
lot of groups that didn't break up. That's what it's.
Some of them old mother fucker niggas in the whispers
twin brothers. But I'm talking about you can't break up
with your twin brother the brothers and still brothers.

Speaker 2 (01:17:29):
Yeah, you can break up with your brother though this
money and fame or make a nigga.

Speaker 1 (01:17:34):
It'll fuck over a nigga. Man, we done saw it.

Speaker 2 (01:17:37):
Too many people done got involved with it and it
scrambles them.

Speaker 1 (01:17:40):
Yeah, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (01:17:41):
So that's part of it.

Speaker 2 (01:17:43):
That's what I'm saying. But y'all, one thing that all
the other ship you said, I can throw out the
window if I'm not paying attention.

Speaker 3 (01:17:50):
To think about it.

Speaker 1 (01:17:51):
It's people who have who don't have all the money
and the famous success, and they have stories that's even
more crazier than people. The only difference is people give
a fuck about every little thing that you do highlighted
or the perception because people just see you doing what
you do and start building right a perception of you

(01:18:12):
or who they think you are. So the moment that
you step outside of them, and oh man, I knew
this nigga was lame. His help? Why you do that,
Why you big up.

Speaker 3 (01:18:22):
Like Nigga. That's what he always wanted. I guess, I
guess you got to He to get.

Speaker 1 (01:18:26):
To that level and go to that phase and whatever.
It is. His business. You can't live your life through
nobody else. It is what it is. Man. I appreciate
you coming by. Man, it's up there. It's really love. Man.
It's up that podcast Big Loan. Y'all gonna get to
do something with that information. Skip

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