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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What's kind of what's the relationship with Gangster today? And
what's y'all relationship? What's what is how y'all can.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
That's my blood and little we came up, you know,
real we came up. There ain't no funk, ain't no
flaw that real, ain't no flawing it.

Speaker 3 (00:20):
You ember five, I ain't know it's gonna come with that, y'all.

Speaker 1 (00:25):
That's it. You was under penitential rules and there bein't
in to get out. That's a dangerous man in facts, bro.

Speaker 3 (00:33):
I made the rules. I broke the rules.

Speaker 1 (00:35):
Man, man, that's freaking me up.

Speaker 3 (00:37):
I feel you, brother, and I understand that. But I
made the rules.

Speaker 1 (00:40):
I broke you.

Speaker 3 (00:41):
I take my lick.

Speaker 1 (00:44):
Terrence Gangster Williams. Please don't say gangster. I'm not gonna
answer no question, okay, Terrence Williams.

Speaker 3 (00:53):
And they selling the down South Airport, they sell the
Black seven, the boots, sell the Black Salmon, the Bull,
and I had it.

Speaker 4 (00:59):
I had a a real respect for Gangster and the
stories I heard about him. But uh, you know, leave
with me. You know I have no type of respect
for him anyway. You know what I have for him.

Speaker 3 (01:11):
That was because all the.

Speaker 4 (01:12):
Stories and and all that. But uh, once you go
that route out, once you go that route out, I
dismiss you from my legend book and XU.

Speaker 3 (01:22):
Out my name thirty. But they won't let me.

Speaker 1 (01:28):
They it's like, no, you reminiscent online by this. Yeah,
but I make it money if you grow away, gone gone,
you killed your name.

Speaker 4 (01:39):
Now he will wires, he wires, he got people life,
he punks, he gets, he's a sick man.

Speaker 3 (01:49):
Called him a red, called me homosexual.

Speaker 1 (01:51):
You said on the stuff, Yeah, what do you say
to the homosexual?

Speaker 3 (01:55):
And then put in work in the streets. They say gangster.
That's one of again names.

Speaker 4 (01:59):
They say, take that over with risk because in the penitenttion, and.

Speaker 1 (02:04):
I'll say that then I stand and I stand on
my word about that. Did you feel like Boosie name
held enough way to even talk? How he was talking
to you was under penitential rules in there being in
to get out. That's a dangerous man.

Speaker 3 (02:20):
In facts, Bruh, I made the rules. I broke the rules.

Speaker 1 (02:22):
You was involved with a case about in and uh
from New York. Evidently y'all was supposed to have had
some conversations. You got some information from him from inside
of the system and turned that that information over. When
you turned that information over, you expected them to knock
it down. You got a point of contact in the

(02:44):
fizz right now, like, how does that work? You could
tell right now today, how enough does that work? A
lot of people you shit Withold. I hear him say
you got forty bodies, and I believe that you're allowing
them to say something like that.

Speaker 5 (03:05):
Now niggas want to allure me to death exactly, my man,
Lord loans Old loan new loom.

Speaker 1 (03:13):
Okay okay, opsun is up there and stuck that nigga.
When it's up there, Man, it's stuck there. Shut up.
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Speaker 6 (04:09):
Hello everyone, welcome to us up there podcast.

Speaker 5 (04:12):
Of course I am big on Today we will seal
with Terrence Gangster Williams. For those who do not know,
Terrence is the brother brother Man, one of the co
founders of Cash Money Records, as will As Slim, which
is the other co founder of Cash Money Records. He
was serving over twenty years in federal prison. Terrence released

(04:33):
ways Eyebrows which many questioned how we got out early.
The streets has labeled him a snitch. But he's here
the crew of air and today we got the paperwork,
the evidence in his side of the story.

Speaker 6 (04:46):
I received several phone calls from the Federal penitentiary encouraging
me to ask this individual certain questions. Terrence is coming
straight to me because of the respect my name holds,
and we're going addressed the five K warns and down
with departures, the snitching on people that's inconciliated, and everything

(05:07):
surrounding these accusations. Is he the man that.

Speaker 5 (05:10):
People are calling a snitch on even more than people
that are deceased or is there more to the story.
Let's get into it and I'll let you all decide
for yourselves. This has gotta be a deep one. And
for everyone watching. Our analytics tell us that we have
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(05:31):
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you enjoyed the conversation with Terrence Gapster Williams. It's up
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Speaker 1 (05:44):
Sleup like you feel me. So it's hard for me
to say that that's fake. I just folks hit the
ground and people seeing him up there, he will call
with the rifle what he got up bend did nothing.

Speaker 3 (06:00):
I just wanna see the bodies, yeh, cause that coulda
been one of the Trump's supporters. Look the white boy,
they go ch gun and range and all that grazed me.
Now Trump's and white.

Speaker 1 (06:10):
Four they crazy. No, he's seven eighty years old. He
ain't take you a billion dollars and then he ain't
taking them kind of rich. Way you out and come
up with this kind of shtuff.

Speaker 3 (06:19):
Well, Trump wanna be back in that president. Trump's the
only one that got convicted, Steve like man, I don't
wanna hear that listen running for office again.

Speaker 1 (06:25):
The boy's a eighty year old b and now he
ain't trying to get hit man.

Speaker 3 (06:29):
Yeah, but he owe a lot of money. You know,
he didn't follow bankrupts and all that stuff too.

Speaker 1 (06:32):
He know how to live on that level.

Speaker 3 (06:34):
That's a fact. Bo here, eighty of old b in
there that's still looking for the spotlight. Wanna still want
that shirt. I wanna get that White House for what reason?
Control white folks like pow, then they'll do anything to
get it.

Speaker 1 (06:50):
And but but but the thing is the idea that
just saying Trump got hit on purpose told him to
shoot but right, just just kind of grazed my ear
to this to the movies. Well, he's in this to
the movies at eighty years old, with a couple of
big and living like this here man, he having spots

(07:12):
with golf courses bigger than spots this media.

Speaker 3 (07:15):
Now that's a fact. I agree with.

Speaker 1 (07:16):
He living like that, Broh, he ain't want them neigs man.
So this ain't that kind of thing where I need
to get shot on me at eighty.

Speaker 3 (07:24):
He didn't get shot.

Speaker 1 (07:26):
You don't believe he got shot or nothing.

Speaker 3 (07:28):
No, he got grades.

Speaker 1 (07:30):
I don't need to get graded at eighty. That's too
close to dying. Bro.

Speaker 3 (07:33):
Trump is a different breed. Bro Trump, the same one
that told us, y'all just grab a handfull of that cat. Trump,
the same one told us that bro that that b
there you're talking about that that old man.

Speaker 1 (07:46):
Ain't getting putting itself in danger. They put it sitting
in a two two three bullet at me, man in
my direction.

Speaker 3 (07:54):
You know what you're doing? Right? Son? What if that
been a what do they call that? Looking like?

Speaker 1 (07:58):
That?

Speaker 3 (07:58):
Wasn't Trump do what? I was a lookerike?

Speaker 1 (08:04):
Nah?

Speaker 3 (08:04):
Man?

Speaker 1 (08:05):
See now, y'all, that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (08:07):
But everybody been putting what is the conspiracy theories out
while we're gonna stop now.

Speaker 1 (08:12):
Yeah, but you gotta deal with real life around this month. Man.

Speaker 3 (08:16):
We don't know what's really what's fake. So we just
put it all together and whatever suit says, we feel like,
oh yeah, I'm run with that we wrung with Yeah,
until they put it out there the right way.

Speaker 1 (08:26):
Like that y'all welcome to It's Up That Podcast. I
am your active and attractive hosts for another episode of
the fastest going podcast on the market. You already know
the vibes. Today we got Terrence Gangster Williams. What's going on? Brother?

Speaker 3 (08:44):
Wow, I'm in the building.

Speaker 1 (08:48):
You said travel was cool, right?

Speaker 3 (08:50):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (08:50):
I look around here, man, I'm loving it.

Speaker 3 (08:53):
I like to sight see. I saw a big fine
uh female, but she was down from me. I was
down this way by about it. Oh, so she was
down there by that. Yeah. I couldn't make it in time. Yeah,
ide got the old I can't move like I used to.
But I saw a big old butt though. I said,
she final let me go, but she had him walk. Yeah.
I couldn't get that entire Yeah.

Speaker 1 (09:14):
Man. For the people that do not know you, man,
explain to them who you are.

Speaker 3 (09:20):
Terrence Gangster Williams born and raised in New Orleans. I'm
one of the founders of the Street Hot Boys, bird
Man and Slim Younger brother.

Speaker 1 (09:31):
Well, how did you get the name Gangster?

Speaker 3 (09:33):
My homie Killer Stone he deceased now he gave it
the name in juveniles, Yaeil.

Speaker 1 (09:38):
I was gonna ask you about Killer Stone I got
some stories about he.

Speaker 3 (09:41):
Gave me that name, bro Killer Stone gave me there.
I was a little gangster. And when we come home,
we hooked up and I started getting the big head,
and I say, ain't no more little gangsters. Gangster now
I took the little off. Yeah, but he gave it
the name in juvenile yeah.

Speaker 1 (10:00):
Yeah. New Orleans for a time when I was younger.
It was one of my best friends just from New Orleans.
And whole family had came up here in things like
kind of migrated, but the family was still there. You know, generations,
the generations here and at one point in time they
were the murder capital of the world. It was going down.

(10:26):
But a lot of people you sit with, I hear
them say you got forty bodies, and I believe that
you allowing them to say some shit like that.

Speaker 3 (10:38):
Let me tell you something, and I tell people this
all the time, that the media love lies. I never
said I have forty bodies. What I said, I confess
to forty bodies.

Speaker 1 (10:52):
How you confessed to something you ain't got?

Speaker 3 (10:56):
If me and you together, if I drove the car, oh,
I'm going to jail with you, right A century will
be you a codefit right around. Yeah, okay, then so
if me and you done abody to get her and
now you dead, And I was like, yeah, I was,
that was me and did this one here on this day,
this day, so and I know all the details. Then

(11:16):
I closed the case because either I was there, or
I pulled the trigger.

Speaker 1 (11:21):
Or somebody told you. Because I'm gonna tell you this too.
I got two people in the fair they said, man, now, loan, man, Man,
he ain't. I said, what are you talking about? Man?
You know I do media. I ain't in all that gangsters.
They said, loan that man ain't right. Man, loan, he
ain't right. Man asked him how he came home. And

(11:43):
I'm like, I'll ask him how he came home. So
you understand, people in the fairs are still looking at you,
right right, how did you come home?

Speaker 3 (11:52):
When Donald Trump came in the office in December of
two thousand eight, when he signed the First Step Act,
he signed the First Step Act, so we were able
to follow more under extraordinary compelling circumstances, saying like back
in the day we were bound by the guidelines. Now
we could follow most to the court, saying like I
had an eight forty eight continue in Criminer Prize because

(12:13):
we had a conspiracy of six ounces of heroin, just
the heroin alone. I only I only could get like
five years for that. But the eight forty eight it's
what put me a category level thirty eight, category of
four level thirty eight and that's what got me the
light sitting because they had Hampton for the murders.

Speaker 1 (12:31):
Bruh.

Speaker 3 (12:32):
It's plenty of people that had crackcase with light centers
d Yeah, yeah, seen too so but a lot of
them dudes who interface saying, hey, this and this, They
trying to find a way out.

Speaker 1 (12:44):
And what did you tell on Did you tell on
people to get out living people?

Speaker 3 (12:50):
No?

Speaker 1 (12:51):
Yeah, but see that's what I'm saying. It's so many
people that's saying you did. But I like that you
liked it. They say that yeah, from inside the system though,
But they an't.

Speaker 3 (13:00):
Produced the evidence yet to you. You talk to them?
Why they ain't seen you? You got it pure bos,
you got an email, you got way they can send
you information. Why they ain't send it to you yet?
Talk to me?

Speaker 1 (13:13):
But you did say you confess afforded bodies that you
you you didn't do though, No.

Speaker 3 (13:18):
No, no, no, See, I had a feeling this was
gonna happen, right, so I say, you know what, this
time gonna come him out. I'm'a come cause I had
a feeling that you was gonna try to hit me
with that. Right.

Speaker 1 (13:30):
No, it's just it's a question.

Speaker 3 (13:31):
Yeah, yeah, you see this here see it? Yeah, see,
this's what they didn't wanting to get up for the longest,
stuff like this. So however, when you talk to them,
you could say, well, I saw them black and white.
He ain't know it's gonna come with that, y'all.

Speaker 1 (13:52):
That's it.

Speaker 3 (13:53):
Hold no, no, no, no, no, that ain't it. Hold on,
let me show you.

Speaker 1 (13:56):
Something we're gonna I'm gonna put this on that too.

Speaker 3 (14:01):
Yeah this here.

Speaker 1 (14:10):
Now what what what are these?

Speaker 3 (14:13):
Okay? This was the judge granted emotion to have the
hearing after he resentenced me to twenty seven years. He
gave right here. I was upset about this. Right right here,

(14:33):
the government says. Right here, the government tell the jug
the court that okay, I had some homicides in my
case as well, and in my case I wasn't charged
or indicted for these homicides, but they enhanced me cause
the guy will wire on my coat to fitting. So

(14:56):
in the hearing right here the government teller cause when
you well, if you and if you charged homicides in
your case, they got what you call a victim impact
statement exactly, so the victim at your sentence here the
victim family get a chance to come and speak. Whatever
I was in charge of homicide, I was enhanced for
two homicides. But here the prosecutor said, Yana, even though

(15:19):
this case, even though under the law, by us having
a close hearing for sinence reduction, it's not allowed for
to have a victim impact statement. However, because you allow this,
we thank you for this, and the judge give them
thirty days to contact the victim family. This is the
statements from the victim family right here of the two

(15:41):
in hands murder right right, This is from them. Now,
what is this saying though that hurts your case?

Speaker 5 (15:50):
Okay, you guys, as we're watching, let's kind of break
down exactly what we're looking at here. First step looks
like this is a victim impact statement.

Speaker 6 (15:59):
Now, this is a key piece of the puzzle.

Speaker 5 (16:01):
It's a statement provided by the victim's family describing how
the crime affected them. This is often used during the
sentencing to influence the court's decision. As you can see here,
the details in this document are crucial because they play
a role in how Terence case was handled.

Speaker 6 (16:21):
Right here we have the five K one letter.

Speaker 5 (16:23):
Now, for those who don't know, a five K one
is when the government files a motion for red sentence
based on the defendis cooperation. This is often what people
are referring to when they throw around the word snitch.
So what we're seeing here is the government acknowledging the
cooperation and recommending a lighter sentence. And so we're also

(16:45):
going to see various other documents throughout, including sentence and reports,
leading motions. All of these come together to tell the
story on how talents got out early and while people
in the system may have been.

Speaker 6 (16:57):
Calling them out, we're putting it all on the table.

Speaker 5 (17:00):
You decide for yourself, singing the paperwork, no, it helped
your case.

Speaker 3 (17:16):
The judges that when you read with this because one
of the sisters to his sister said they happen to
be dying in prison. A mother and one of the
sister said, no, we want him.

Speaker 1 (17:26):
We don't know if you let him out.

Speaker 3 (17:30):
Yeah, because I had a feelings was gonna happen. So
I said, you know, enough is enough. Let me go on,
let me cut the bull and and and uh you know,
and and let you see because your.

Speaker 7 (17:42):
Your your word whole weight for sure, and you see
this as court documents for sure. And I want the
people to see this because it's a lot of I'm
telling you from inside.

Speaker 1 (17:53):
Of the federal prison.

Speaker 3 (17:54):
Yeah, I know.

Speaker 1 (17:55):
They calling me just two days ago. I'm on the
phone like, man, you know, because they want to see
what you're doing.

Speaker 3 (18:01):
Who you got, what's going on?

Speaker 1 (18:02):
I got this du I got just did such and such,
you know, I said, man, I got wood, just tell
got the William coming through. Chop it up, no loan.

Speaker 3 (18:11):
He was on.

Speaker 1 (18:12):
He got on the case. They were putting them in places,
were telling them stuff, and he'll go and get time.
Took off his case. And I'm saying what I said, Man,
it's hurting my feelings coming from y'all because y'all letting
there right You sure it ain't this ain't YouTube. This
is in the prison system. So I'm saying, damn bruh
for real. And then I said, man, I'm gonna ask

(18:34):
him facts.

Speaker 3 (18:35):
But here's the thing. About the guys that's in the
the prison, the federal prison sitsiment has got water down
as well because you got guys that are here story
and then they don't have this. They just take it
off word of mouth. Now that I learned that and
penitentially was so many dude that would hide on a
compound because one dude said, oh, y'all saw I checked
his work and he slide for a while that compound.

(18:56):
They doing that Now that stuff is overrated.

Speaker 1 (18:58):
Now, bro, gonna take pictures of this. Man. Make sure
it's on the screen so people gonna see it. I
want people to know because people been having your name.
I'm telling you do this ain't no cap even when
I just did, because the first person in me, I said, man,
what you know what I'm saying? Because I know YouTube
is YouTube? You know what I'm saying. So I'm looking

(19:20):
at YouTube saying that's YouTube. They saying forty bodies.

Speaker 3 (19:24):
This all this my lawyer told the judge, man, you
might what it. Stick to your regular ruling because the
prosecutor want to give me forty years.

Speaker 1 (19:35):
Hey, this is I'm brought this shirt on y'all. Boy.
Look y'all gotta y'all got so. Now this is the
hearing for the reduction of your sentence.

Speaker 3 (19:47):
Now this I don't I wasn't supposed to have this
because this is still but this is I'm lets you
read this right, yeah, but this is the actual emotion.

Speaker 1 (19:57):
That defied to get when you were getting up.

Speaker 3 (19:59):
And this is with the homicide, the murders, us, this
action about all of 'em to ford the other right here,
This is them right here.

Speaker 1 (20:07):
But I still don't understand how you got it. How
can you get down on forty? Uh?

Speaker 3 (20:11):
Listen, this was people. This what people miss it out on.
I didn't get out of prisoners by telling on murders. No,
I got a old prison because of the first Step Act,
the motion I fouled. But the every time I was
like when it first came out with people, actual people.
This went in a fed November two thousand fourteen, November first,
two thousand fourteen. Then came out with two level reduction,

(20:33):
two level drug reduction, they said November of two thousand fifteen,
November first, two thousand and fifteen, they say they gonna make
it retroactive, right, I gotta told you, I don't. I
had a drug case. I had a UH six cons
conspiracy six thousands of herond so under the scale of

(20:54):
the mo and I don't have a bad jackets. I'velways
been in jail for murders. So the most they could
have given me five years. Now with me having a
eight forty eight, it pushed us six ounces of heroin
out the way, and it dropped me down to level
thirty eight, which is mandatory minimum twenty twenty of the
life because I had a kingpin charge eight forty eight.

(21:17):
Every time I follow most of the court the courts
to say well, the judge always say, well, mister William
coming forward about this is and this, but what about
these murders, Like he never came forward to tell us
what happened with these murders. So I would get denied
my emotions all the time because they still saying, well,

(21:38):
how can we reduce your sentence? Cause it be discretion
by the judge, can we how can we reduce your sentence? Yeah,
you're doing good in jail. Yeah you got certificates, you
got classes, you doing all that, But we still have
these homicides that we know you know about, and you
don't want to help us to close the case. They know,
you know about other people going in there talking and
then one dude, it's say in my he said, my cyntings.

(22:00):
They could look us up on Pacer. Give my citizen
the trainscript, one dude, or why you're on my cold
of fit in the jail. So my co defend was
braging about bodies. Yeah, we was out there beefing when
such and and we killed this. We did this. So
they went and got the gun, ran ballistic and see
they had murders on them.

Speaker 1 (22:14):
Mm.

Speaker 3 (22:15):
And by me being the boss, the head of the case,
and I wouldn't snitch on my cod's they gave me
the life sentence. They said about the proponeers of the evidence.
They gave me a life sentence, but not just because
of my coat. They took me and baby was onna
having a conversation. I said, man A Lajama ran in
threw a gun. He said the gun was dirty. I said, yeah,
that was Calio. So we had a gun that was

(22:35):
damn after this project. So when they ran the bulicities, okay,
they put that on me and I ain't had nothing
to do with those murders. So that's how the Fairs
worked with us. They enhanced me for the murders. But
they knew, okay from guys coming there telling them about
stuff and and about cold fitting. The dude in the jail,
my coldfitting talking about murders, so they know, okay, we
know you know too much. So you got to ease

(22:57):
with this drug cause you don't have a a a
big case. But if we release you line, you getting
a way to Scott free. So go to the state.
Help to state with them homicide go cause like when
you get when you get a murder case, if they
don't uh solve it and so long, they go to
the cold case. So the cold case st last forever
until they would close those cases. So I had a
DA that was cool with. Well, first he was a

(23:19):
uh homicide detective and he called me. Well, I got
him and get me over there. I got the immunity
for the bodies for everything I did. Then he became
a DA. But what happened was he got involved with
another case with a female and inappropriate stuff. Uh uh
happened they fired him. So that's what took me cause
i'd have been out or been hit my sittings.

Speaker 1 (23:40):
But the but you got the immunity for telling him
what though, just what.

Speaker 3 (23:44):
Happened with these bodies here said, I had to close
the case, and I had to talk to some of
the victim's family, Like I had one father aks me,
did my son suffer? And I broke it down, like
you know, just so the same way he took people
a live and did you know, that's the same thing
thatn happ But I had to actually face some of
the victims and talk to some of them and apologize.
That's what they make you do. Well they'll actually do.

(24:06):
They don't make you, but it is better for you
because once you coming forward, you may as well tell
them you know, and talk to the families because they
want to bring clothes in to the case. But I
didn't actually get out on forty by the I don't
know where that started, but I didn't. Never want to
stop it because they keep me with interviews, keep me going,
keep it going, you know what I'm saying. But I
never even when you go back to my flag, I
said that I got for the First Step Act when

(24:28):
Donald Trump signed there December of twenty eighteen. But I
did give up homicides in a state because under the
federal law under Rule thirty five, what.

Speaker 1 (24:37):
You're talking about these two homicides right here.

Speaker 3 (24:39):
No, it's moltiituo in here, it's the faulty in here.

Speaker 1 (24:44):
So you So I'm saying, how the forty get in
your paperwork? If you ain't got nothing, if you ain't
had nothing to do with it. That's what I don't understand.

Speaker 3 (24:52):
Under ruth thirty five. Yeah, once you send us in
the FED, you or your family or somebody could go
and make drug buys or go chill on crimes, and
they could reduce your sittings.

Speaker 1 (25:04):
Right, that's what they told me you were doing. They
said that one time. Now you can respond to this.
He said something about one time you got involved with
a case that was up in New York, something in
New York. And now let me also say this far
I get to that they never questioned where you ride
though you was a rioter. They ain't say you wasn't
no rider. They say you're a rider, but he ain't

(25:25):
he ain't straight, right, And I'm glad you brought you
bringing this and you speaking on it. But they said
one time you was involved with a case about uh
from New York. Evidently y'all was supposed to have had
some conversations. You got some information from him from inside
of the system and turned that that information over. When

(25:46):
you turned that information over, you expected them to knock
it down. And they said something about that they gave
some of the time back because of your you being
from New Orleans or something like that. There's something I
couldn't really to get get the full story, but it
was something involved with the New York Man. Have you
ever been on the casion with in New York?

Speaker 3 (26:07):
My coldes is from New York and I but I
had twenty years for telling my other court offending. Hey,
when they come down with the drug, we're gonna kidnap,
we gonna l tie 'em up and kill him. All
that is in my paperwork. Yeah, what I learned dudes
to keep their story going and it keep stuff going.
Dudes to get pieces of here, get piece of here

(26:28):
and build their own story. Put some paperwork here, put
me here, they put me in places they will.

Speaker 1 (26:32):
What happened with your codes are on your case.

Speaker 3 (26:34):
All my codes played out, None of my codes snitched,
none of 'em.

Speaker 1 (26:38):
I had eight co defendings, so you said, and they
got to snitch on your name and it don't suppost
to be on your name the way I mean it.

Speaker 3 (26:43):
Could be honest, Cause I did sit down on the government.
I did sit down. This is what I tell people.
This why I don't be upset with my what my
what what? Baby? And then I made the rules whenever
you get arrested and never sit down with the government,
never sitting there interrogation room. And we never done that.
So at the end of day, hoop baby slim be,

(27:04):
nobody was in that room with me with the detect
So I can say, yeah, I only told on just
these forty bodies. But how y'all doing telling the truth?

Speaker 1 (27:11):
Right?

Speaker 3 (27:12):
So that's why I don't get upset when everybody feel like, man,
I ain't rocking because you do, Vialley, you should have
never went in there.

Speaker 1 (27:17):
What made you do that? You want it out?

Speaker 3 (27:19):
Yeah, it was time to go home. I did twenty
three years ten. I said time to go, trying to
go out, didn't have enough. Yeah, I gotta go cause
it ain't no four to one k keep it the
rid of on the streets. Ain't nobody sending me a diamond
Chinese money, but nobody don't owe me nothing. I wanna
make that clear. The streets ain't owe me nothing. I
did my You know how they say you do the crime,
do the time. I felt I did enough of the time.

(27:40):
Now I was like, they got a lot of sealing.
Dit they got a lot of these little youngster that's
cutting them out there. Let me get out the way
to give them my bed, cause I need to be
out on the streets.

Speaker 1 (27:48):
Man.

Speaker 3 (27:48):
Where where they shaking and big it where it's making.
They making a legal money out here. It's beautiful out here.
But I don't never wanna go back to prison.

Speaker 1 (27:54):
Yeah, but you know this is thing, No, this is thing.

Speaker 3 (27:56):
This was this is another thing I noticed though a
loong what I get a lot of flat Okay, I
got the stick on my name? You you're rad? You hot?
All right? Cool? I come home. I didn't go back
to the streets. I didn't go try to pick up
a sack. I denounced the streets because I know I
got a black eye. I know my name thirty. But
they won't let me.

Speaker 1 (28:16):
They it's like, no, you reminiscent online by this shit though. Yeah,
but I'm making money if you go away, gone gone,
you killed your name. They want boom, they try to
boosing then, but they want you to go and buy
your nigga.

Speaker 3 (28:31):
I can't go. Let me show why I can't go. Nowhere, loom.
Here's the thing I know. I didn't know nothing about
social media. So when I come home, I had a
start of the Instagram and I was following thirty I
was following three hundred bras I had made mistaking pressed
the only fan thing and I'm bro coming in my thing.
I said, well, she liked I'm following, foot follow follow

(28:52):
So I'm following three hundred people and I got thirty three
people following me. So a person I know say, hey,
you doing that wrong? So what do you mean? He say,
He's supposed to be the opposite. So I leave everybod
I started on over. Then everybody coming from my youngsters,
everybody coming, they direspected me. You snitch, you racked, So
I'm like, hold on. So I saw Jay Electronica where
you couldn't add him. I said, how you did that?

(29:12):
So I'm like you, how you work the thing? So
I took that off. I said, okay, now, because see
I'm I'm an Internet step so now you won't go
to war on the internet. Let's do that. So now
when they start coming for me. I took that off.
I was like, you know how you be like when
you at walat a person, you can't let them build
up their owner, cause once they get their money, buil
up the owner and not they're ready to acknowledgate. You
and I went through so much disrespect, so much stuff

(29:34):
in the in the in the social media world, to
where now it's like, okay, yeah, that missed the answer
right back. Oh yeah, yeah, oh boy. You know he
pushing his here, he pushing positive stuff. He does, but
he'll snitch, he'll rat. Okay, I'm fine with that, but
they still you.

Speaker 1 (29:51):
But I'm saying, but I'm something. You stood on it
for so long.

Speaker 3 (29:54):
Yeah, it's enough. I had to go home. Time to go.
It's enough. I got toed it.

Speaker 1 (30:00):
My mother. Was they doing to you? And now run?

Speaker 3 (30:02):
I was sweet? Listens, birdman took kere me. I never
want for nothing. I've never been started, I've never been raped,
I've never bought you running.

Speaker 1 (30:10):
From I've run from that, go to home.

Speaker 3 (30:11):
I want to run out here.

Speaker 1 (30:14):
I don't know what I'm saying. You just saying, bro.
They said, like I'm saying, you had your name is
your name facts?

Speaker 3 (30:23):
I don't want that no more they could have it.
I don't want it.

Speaker 1 (30:25):
And you know that that that that's a dope. But
it's like, but you said you ain't told on nobody living. No,
ain't nobody living gonna say you. But he got people
that are saying that, yeah, he told me do something.

Speaker 3 (30:38):
No, unless they's a doctor up, it ain't because because
think about to see if you.

Speaker 1 (30:44):
Can feel a certain paperwork like this paper.

Speaker 3 (30:46):
And you can see that this of course.

Speaker 1 (30:49):
He said you can feel you can see them know
if you know you know facts, see this ain't no.

Speaker 3 (30:55):
Yeah, but here's the thing, no loom people and I
and I always say this, here broke. I've already accepted
the fact that my name dirty. I I I'm I'm
I'm not arguing at.

Speaker 1 (31:08):
But see how you can just do that because once
you cause he's my thing.

Speaker 3 (31:11):
I always I don't look at the tunnel vision r.
I look at it like if that was baby Gisel
or somebody that did that, I'll be on the top
like the same way because we didn't come up like that.
That wasn't rules. You broke the rules. You violated so
much come around us. I'm cool with that because I
got my freedom.

Speaker 1 (31:28):
See, they telling me that, they saying on he he
ain't got no business around you, bro, I'm saying, Ben,
I'm I'm doing interviews, man, you know what I'm saying.
I'm interviewing folks. Man. This ain't no motherfucking you know
what I mean. But I got some phone calls about
this shit, like for real, like and I'm thinking, like, man,
I'm gonna ask him about all this shit. Man, Cause
them niggas in the face, it's they speaking. But you

(31:51):
say so your col definish are they still alive? They
out with all of 'em?

Speaker 3 (31:55):
Yeah, I got one of 'em that I got a
co defendit that maybe the people who call, Oh, you
respect him. He's so respected in the FED and in
the state. A lot of people call and still kick
it with him to this day.

Speaker 1 (32:07):
He ain't said nothing though.

Speaker 3 (32:09):
No, he's stood up to go. He's standing up being
penitations everybody.

Speaker 1 (32:12):
I don't understand why you broke though.

Speaker 3 (32:14):
Yeah. I had the time to go long too, my joy.

Speaker 1 (32:16):
I don't know what's out there. I had to go
find out.

Speaker 3 (32:20):
Yeah, but I had to go find out.

Speaker 1 (32:21):
To break the cold to go find.

Speaker 3 (32:23):
Yeah, I guess what I'm happy without bingo. Man. It's
all kinds of women out, all kind of shape shizes.
Bro they got misses, they got everybody. So my thing is, yes,
I broke the cold. Yes I was down bat I'm wrong.
All that I agree to that my thing. I'm not

(32:46):
in the streets. I don't have no business saying loom
bring me in the hood, let me go get some
chronic or let me go get some pills, let me
I'm out of pocket. I have no business doing nothing expert.
I don't do that. The only thing I do is
I pushed my stories that people was telling me. Before
I come home. They was making money off my stories,
and now I'm home doing it. It's a problem.

Speaker 1 (33:07):
But them niggas looked up to you as what I mean,
I find somebody else to look up to. But they
already been through it with you. They like BG. They say,
did you get BG's name or what?

Speaker 3 (33:17):
Yeah, he mad with me too, That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (33:19):
So it's like them niggas looked up to you, bootshit BG.

Speaker 3 (33:22):
A whole bunch of niggas in the other gangsters that's
coming after before there was gangs before me, gangsters with
me and gangsters after me.

Speaker 1 (33:29):
So you don't feel no way about it. No, I
you looking like it is what it is?

Speaker 7 (33:34):
Man.

Speaker 3 (33:35):
Yeah, I did that and I'm living with that. That's
why I run by myself.

Speaker 1 (33:40):
When you meet with them, folks like what what is that? Like?
What happens with that?

Speaker 4 (33:44):
Like?

Speaker 1 (33:44):
How does that happen?

Speaker 3 (33:45):
What? Folks?

Speaker 1 (33:46):
Like when you go get your immunity and shit like
do they come get you from the compound, motherfucker ceo?

Speaker 3 (33:51):
Or no, they gonna put you on it. They gonna
put you on a on a court list like you
got caught and they gonna slide you on out, bring
you there, feeds you with you on chicken you want?
He said, they're gonna feed you good, give you something,
call forget something to drink, and they're gonna run that
tape record let's go.

Speaker 1 (34:06):
So they got tapes to you? Yeah you look look
bright out. You know it's fucking me up, respectfully. That's crazy. Yeah, right,
I know, because you know, I know what your name meant,
and you know I know what it meant that damn
something of them. I know, like I'm saying, I plugged
in New Orleans, so I kind of know what it

(34:27):
meant And I know so many niggas was disappointed a.

Speaker 3 (34:30):
Lot of them, that's a fact. And some of them
be hit me up nothing in the DM. What's up
you be you man? You don't bad hurt man, You
hurt me. But I still love it. But you hurt
me man. I feel you, bro, I feel it. But
like I said, and like you also got on the
the other day, he said, you run here pushing that,
you around here instigating the Turkey to beg situations d
DA right, I said, Well, let me ask you something

(34:51):
I do podcast. I'm a content creator. But if I
came home, it was was sitting in bricks of Cocaina,
New Orleans, sitting in that fendo on the New Oran.
Gonna be a hero again. Oh boy, feed the hood,
he feed the block. But here a real one.

Speaker 1 (35:04):
Even with you what you're done done? You think they
accept you? Even with what you know? That's what everybody
except they'll deal with you probably. But I'm saying your
name got there, it got an asterisk next to it.

Speaker 3 (35:14):
Yeah, but I'm cool with that. But like I just said,
here's the thing. You got dudes in the hood that
hate snitche that hate rats. But if you go in
that hood and drop some work down that hood where
you feed them, they gonna overlook that.

Speaker 1 (35:26):
Yeah, that's a fact.

Speaker 3 (35:28):
So that's what I was saying. So if I came
home doing that, then it'll be a different story. You
have dudes pushing the look.

Speaker 1 (35:32):
They ain't really overlooking it. They fake it. It's the
fake apps. They really still looking at a nigga like
man that nigga broke the fucking cold right.

Speaker 3 (35:39):
But they got it right, and that ain't cool. Though
a man gonna stand on with his standing.

Speaker 1 (35:44):
That's a fact.

Speaker 3 (35:45):
But they doing it, you know what I'm saying. But
I'm out there way. But like I say, I've never
seen where you had Sam and you had al Pole
and they selling the down south air Pole. They sell
the black salmon, their boots, selling the black salmon, the bull.

Speaker 1 (35:58):
But I've never seen what you feel when he say
that though.

Speaker 3 (36:02):
Nothing, I don't bro I We're going on. I got
bulletproof emotions. We're going on the Internet. I deal with
it accordingly. If a person get views, I'm gonna answer it,
get me some money, give me in reviews, and I'm
gone once I get off the internet. That was death.

Speaker 1 (36:17):
But if you really is what they say you was.
It's still gotta be in there. Somewhat.

Speaker 3 (36:22):
It's in there someone, but they ain't. I'm not govern
let them people trip bey my spot just by talking
to me. No, bro, you gotta put your.

Speaker 1 (36:28):
Hands on I'm saying it's rich certain people like I'm
saying you. Did you feel like Boosie name held enough
way to even talk how he was talking to No?

Speaker 3 (36:39):
No, But I looked at it. Boosie a celebrity, Boosy
give mellions of views, So I was like he was
disposed to be for everybody. When I come home, everybody
looked through see here street dudes of everybody looked to
hear Boosy on flag When me and Boosy clashed, real
street dude that was going off on me going at
it was on Boosy's side. Start switching sides, and you

(37:03):
see when he lost a lot of momentum. When what
because I start exposing certain stuff that he was saying.
So when he went at me on Twitter, that's how
I got the damn the people champ because he had
a million followers and a lot of people in comment
was taking my side. I said, WHOA I got myself
something here.

Speaker 1 (37:21):
About what though, I I don't I don't remember when.

Speaker 3 (37:23):
He was when he was calling me a red, called
me homosexual. He was saying all this stuff.

Speaker 1 (37:27):
Yeah, what do you say to the homosexual shit?

Speaker 3 (37:30):
Same thing I told A but that never happened. I'm muscling. Yeah,
that's forbidden, right.

Speaker 1 (37:34):
Yeah, that's forbidding for real.

Speaker 3 (37:36):
And it's back to what I just say. How dudes
that overlook stuff or dudes breaking the rules? We know
you gotta have receipts. Right, if a person that does
in HOMOSEX SX two, you're gonna have a homosex you
gonna come forward, or you're gonna picture that HOMICEX. You
gonna have that name, or you gonna have a real
dude who who name is credible? Gonna say yeah, I
saw him. The boy with the peedings is my assauties. Right,
Boosie just heard somebody say this, so god it all

(37:59):
made up hisself and attack me with that violated right.
But here's the thing I say, bro Way your proof.
So Boosy said on blade, he said, man, he hurt me.
Get what he said?

Speaker 1 (38:11):
I was in PC.

Speaker 3 (38:12):
So I said, oh, that's what made him cause you
know two things. You disrespect a person called him a
rat and a homosexual online it's two things. But nobody
never brought forward. Nobody didn't come from a joint and
say yeah I saw him and sell and dodge in
homosexual activity. But I'm learning now they make the rules
and break the rules. Whoever got a name on social media?

(38:34):
Prime example, how I did jizzle? So whoever got a
name on social media, you could spread the rumor and
then you got a lot of people. You got some
people gonna jacket, you got some people who not. It
ain't cool, it ain't fair. But that's what's going on
in social media now. And I learned to see the
social media is righting by the youngsters now. So a
lot of these youngsters got a short tension span, so

(38:55):
they'll hear one thing and forget about that, and they
gave it something new, come up, oh yeah, and then
run with that. You refreshing. Then, member like, man, you
know he told yeah, But man, I like him. No,
he a good dude. Man he doing yeah, I know
he rat it. I just do not to have my
effort in around. I don't have to have that drake.
But man, I like what he you know, I like
what he's doing. People got poritism.

Speaker 1 (39:15):
I see it.

Speaker 3 (39:15):
I mean I watched it all through. I watched dudes
and say, oh, this one a rat, but they still
get money with him, or this one a rat but
they over he read on something small mindy, but we're
gonna still hang with him. I watch it.

Speaker 1 (39:27):
What did you say to bullshit that pissed him? Mom?
I just say you was in PC and that Sidney
went out, because that's a bad motherfucker at PC. That
means you're hiding and ducking. You know what I'm saying.
That means you're ducking and running. Yeah, that's fucked up. Yeah,
that don't make a nigga go off.

Speaker 3 (39:43):
Yeah, so I know how to press this button. Yeah,
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (39:47):
So so Soizz don't even acknowledge you though, not no
at all.

Speaker 3 (39:56):
He got that song Don't talk to Me, don't talk
I me and just ran together, JIZZL, I hit, I
hit kill a stone out some coke, try to settle
across the river at TJ just Baby, don't wait for
justits coming to the radio station. I got in with
me across the river, making me a drug, sell hold
me down, I go down and make the deal. The
dude kind of come around the apartment, kind of around

(40:16):
the building, just will get letting off just to help me,
just to hold me down. So I understand he's frustrating
him being mad. I understand that. Yeah, s see a
lot of stuff. Bro. I don't go to it for
tag be men like on the in and if I
know I could make some money, i'm'a troll. I'm'a do that,
but I'm not gonna go too far. I'm not gonna
just disrespect all the way cause I rolled by myself.

(40:40):
So that's why I'm not upset with Jigseel. Jigseel gotta
write cause we ran together, we hung together. I'll gangster,
baby gangster, and I stay in my lane. Br But
like you say, I made a name. My name meant
something in the city of New Orleans.

Speaker 1 (40:57):
Yeah, and them niggas, I'm telling you, man, them niggas
looked at you like one of them one. They had
your name in their mouth, trying to get ranked for them.
Sometimes that's a fact. So it like when you go bad,
it's like say, bruh, not him after a dog, that
nigga they broke him after.

Speaker 3 (41:13):
Twenty twenty three, twenty three, and ten I did my.

Speaker 1 (41:16):
Homeboy did a dub. I think he did twenty two.
He ain't say nothing. He come on back out off
their same off, their first step act shit as well.
So I'm familiar with the law, you know. But it's like,
I'm glad you clarifying some of this because people people
want to know. But you say you sat down with him,

(41:36):
you don't feel no way. What do you think about
people who are comparing you to King Vaughn?

Speaker 3 (41:41):
And shit, I'm older King Von, I'm before King Von.

Speaker 1 (41:46):
Right, So do you look at King Vaughan like a
step of l like you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (41:52):
For it's what I seen because when I was young,
we had a thing and we and we beefing when
we see each other in the jail. Were gonna hold
I'm gonna see you on the streets, but I see
you were gonna get at you. So he was fighting
in jail. Did got foot age of that? He you
know he's doing this thing. He was steppy, you know,
even when he got he got killed, try to go fight, right,
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (42:12):
So he jumped out that can ran over right, you
know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (42:14):
So, yeah, he was doing his thing.

Speaker 1 (42:16):
You know, I always regret that day when the niggas
come to the cop be telling my homeboy. That's why
I be by myself because I know what to do
when it's time to do it, you know what I mean.
But I'll be telling my homeboys and when they is around,
don't come tell me a nigga right there, knock him out,
you know what I mean, don't come to the cologne man. Yeah,

(42:38):
that bit cheah nigga, such a such, because I'm that's
my energy. Who why he cause that nigga? You know
if I'm saying, if if I'm on what they was
on right, it's just they go with a certain energy
that knocking on the wonder could caution me my life.
You see what I'm saying. And for me, I just
tell the young niggas. Brother, if you got a bunch
of niggas around you that they telling you that the

(42:58):
oppos in the building, they tell you man bringing them over.
They just came in. Yo. If it's like that, you
go handle it. Tell me it's handle let's go. You
know what I mean. Don't bring me into it. I'm
the machine, you bring the money out the car and
so the game. Always respect the game, and so hopefully
they somebody can pick some of that up. But you do,

(43:18):
you do you? You don't feel away about people comparing
you because they say he'll sit. Do you think you
a serial killer?

Speaker 3 (43:25):
I asked somebody who started that, like, who come up
that rule? It was like, if you killed three or
more people a serial killer. I've killed more than that,
so according to that, yeah, but is that a bad thing?

Speaker 1 (43:36):
Like what I mean by people? How many people you
say you killed a lot?

Speaker 3 (43:40):
I killed over twenty.

Speaker 1 (43:42):
But at this my thing.

Speaker 3 (43:44):
If they want to say, okay, you a serial killer, right,
you got people who get money, big drug dealers that
sitting hits. You got people big drug dealers that got
the hit man that pig, go go get it, go
get him so he could be a serious your boss band.
You know what I'm saying. There's money a stepper, right,

(44:04):
you know, so people make up all kinds of stuff
and we run with it. I don't have a problem
none of that long.

Speaker 1 (44:09):
Real to cause you get to you. You know what
I'm saying. I know you working whatever move you're working,
But I'm saying, deep down. I'm talking about just you.
I ain't fuck the internet. I'm talking about you. You
do you feel like you as a serial killer? You
did because you gotta thank serial killers. Jeffrey Doma And
that's the same bracket they throwing King Vaughn. Then, you

(44:31):
know what I'm saying. They throwing King Vaughan and he
come out of Chicago in the inner city, whereas war.
They ain't even putting none of that in context. These
white boys putting on masks and shitting hunting for random
little motherfuckers. It's a different vibration, right, I'm saying, what
was your what was your ill modough like, what was
what was causing you? Was you just hunting or what

(44:52):
what was you doing?

Speaker 3 (44:53):
Taking the hits? And in crazy port about it. Every
beef that I had can from when I was in jail,
you know, and somebody on my project get into it
with them, and I come home and ride for the project,
all my beef being somebody else beef that I was
just cool with, and I just get caught up in

(45:15):
and that's rocking, rocking with that nowhere head first, like
I jumping the beef. They'll back, they'll fall back. And
now it went from about the Magnoliah to gangst them
out the magnolia. I ain't had nothing to do with this.
If people would have set us down and asked us,
what's going on with this behind, I would be like,
I don't know. I just know my homet got into

(45:36):
it with him something out here. That just was how
we had a lot of sisters.

Speaker 1 (45:41):
When you was out there, of course, No, No, you
was hunting.

Speaker 3 (45:46):
Yeah, I was hunting. I had to hunt or be hunting.

Speaker 1 (45:49):
And I was a motherfucker back then.

Speaker 3 (45:51):
I had been hit up. I got hit on my own, bully,
come out to the mint of my chest right here,
been on my chest. So I been hit up too.
So yeah, you had to hunt. You're gonna get You're
gonna be the or hundred.

Speaker 1 (46:02):
It's just how many times you've been shot.

Speaker 3 (46:05):
I've been shot ninety one of my foot I've been
shot in ninety four it i've been shot in ninety
six three times. No, I got shot five times, but
on three different.

Speaker 1 (46:13):
Areas, you know what I'm saying, three different caves. Yeah,
I had because yeah, because when you out there like it,
you're gonna get hit. This is the thing that the
streets is needed me to put together You see what
I'm saying to verify some more. Not New Orleans, because
New Orleans and my people from New Orleans shot after yard.

(46:34):
They they know who you is. But I'm saying some
of the internet niggas don't understand how these things gotta
connect for it to even make sense. Right. If you
can sit next to me and say you got twenty
bodies that never been hit, I can't go for that,
not in the ghetto or New or Yeah. You see
what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (46:51):
I just can't go unless you've been in jail most
of your life too.

Speaker 1 (46:55):
You can't get twin of them and get away scott free.

Speaker 4 (46:57):
Man.

Speaker 1 (46:58):
Somebody will some blood. Man.

Speaker 3 (47:00):
Well that's a fact.

Speaker 1 (47:01):
You see what I'm saying. Like, it's just how it go, man, Like,
ain't nobody twin of them? I see three of four,
but twin of them joints with no bloodshed. I can't
hear that.

Speaker 3 (47:11):
Yeah. I've been here from this and I've been stabbed
at my chest.

Speaker 1 (47:13):
Yeah stabbed yeah upcloak.

Speaker 3 (47:16):
Yeah, NFL beefing with the guys of the mouth caught
me in the chest right here, could kill me. Yeah,
that's what I'm saying i'dn't been in the mud on
the battlefield, on the front line.

Speaker 1 (47:28):
You lost your brother, but you got your freedom. You
lost bird man. Do you slick? Talk to them niggas?

Speaker 3 (47:35):
No, man, think about it. If I talk to them, bro,
remember this, if I if I talk to them, I
wouldn't be doing interviews. I wouldn't really be on the
internet really telling stories. That's about hustle.

Speaker 1 (47:50):
But you lost your brother. How you feel about that? Like,
he don't fuck with you?

Speaker 3 (47:55):
It is what I respect it. I respect it because
he's still living under the g Oh, he's still living
under the politics. I respect it because if he if
it the role was reversed, I'll be like the same way.
And now I say this because he got the paperwork.
His name was all of my paperwork, some of that

(48:17):
stuff I didn't even just bring. Well. They had people
testify their trials that I was a hitman for cash money.
So they asked me, they said, that's your that's your
goal called break down cas in my factual basis, they
wanted me that I invested money in cash money, wanted
me to plead guilty to that. I said, now I
ain't doing that. So they waived it. So if I
wanted to come back later on and cooperate with him

(48:38):
and say, yeah, how did this to take them down?
So he knew about a lot of this stuff. But
and I'd be like, you don't take nothing consideration to
say you don't he go your check for a factor?

Speaker 1 (48:48):
No, he just like, man, you think it got an
expiration date on it?

Speaker 3 (48:55):
Everything does.

Speaker 1 (48:58):
So you just laying back in the cut saying, my
brother be back around eventually.

Speaker 3 (49:05):
I ain't do nothing to you.

Speaker 1 (49:07):
I find you could have went bad on him.

Speaker 3 (49:09):
Facts. He know that, the world know that, everybody know that.

Speaker 1 (49:13):
Why why you or what made you hold him down?
Cause it's family.

Speaker 3 (49:16):
L Yeah, that family. I can't do that. Uh bruh.
Let me tell you something. That's why you never hear
me make no disrespectful videos about him or Slim. And
I'm never gonna do that because they took care of
me my whole bit. Like I had a open book
at their uh in New York. Uh there there there
uh their accountant. It was to the point where I

(49:37):
used to asks for money, sent me two thousand, seventy
five thousand. She was like, uh, Terrence called Bavial sitnem Yeah,
sitting to him, him and Slim huddle up. He said, look,
whenever he called whatever he asks for, just sitting to him.
Don't even aks her this city. So my daughter's grab
one of my daughter graduate for Howard University, one gradway
for two Land University. So I was able to take
care of my children. I got ten child. I was

(49:58):
able to take that in from him. I got eleven now.
But I was even taking care of my children from
the prison because of them two dudes. Some i'thing be
forever grateful for that. That's why I'm not really tripping.
Because it's like, and I always tell people along they
print mone, I'm gonna get me some money.

Speaker 1 (50:13):
But this your brother though, yeah, and he doing good. Actually,
think about you, gangster nigga. You would have came home
right boy, and boy would have had the rig car
been called at the end of the rules, them nig
would have had you right. You said, I'd rather do YouTube. Yeah,
I ready get out.

Speaker 3 (50:36):
I ain't know about YouTube, bro, norm Lie. Let me
tell you what your plans then that I do about YouTube.
I did because I had did interview. I asked the dude,
I say, hey, man, make my YouTube pie. He said, man,
you gotta be home. You can't have no YouTube piece.
You gotta be home. It's like all right. So when
I got out, I made a video. I said, hey, man,
make my YouTube pie. So I had to ask two guys.

(50:57):
One was dragging lad the other one jumped on it.
But I had a female to start helping me out.
She live in Colorado. She started looking around in there
and she said, hey, who is this person? This dude
was trying to steal my money in the ass in
but she called it though it ahead of time?

Speaker 1 (51:11):
Bro.

Speaker 3 (51:12):
I said, hey, man, what's up with that? Why you do?
He came on with three different excues. But now that
I know about stuff, and now, yeah, you're trying to
get me, you know?

Speaker 1 (51:19):
So what you were shooting video with him?

Speaker 3 (51:23):
No, I just was just talking and started talking about
stories to who on YouTube?

Speaker 1 (51:28):
How he get control of you?

Speaker 3 (51:30):
Because I didn't know how to.

Speaker 1 (51:31):
I didn't know how to, So he set it up
for you, just kind of.

Speaker 3 (51:35):
Put his and put his credit card at that part
where the money going. I didn't know nothing about that.

Speaker 1 (51:40):
What made you start doing that? Though? What made you say? Man,
I'm this nigga that got my bones off the street,
like the streets respected me. I'm coming home. I'm finna
get on YouTube right talking about this ship? What made
you know that it was gonna do what it was
gonna do?

Speaker 3 (51:58):
All right? From doing interviews. It's a dude named video Wing.
I did an interview with them over the well. I
did BG and baby right hand man over the phone,
and they got three hundred thousand views.

Speaker 1 (52:11):
See what you doing that shit for?

Speaker 3 (52:13):
Cause they had ticked me off when I was in jail,
and I was like, you know what, you sucker? I
was to go in there. I had got a voice,
so I called home and she recalled it and she
put it out for me. So I was like, all right.
So during the pandemic, I did another interview and that
did good. So I was like, hey, man, I want YouTube,
but I didn't know about.

Speaker 1 (52:27):
The money part, right, So you wanted the cloud?

Speaker 3 (52:31):
Yeah, I was just cloud chasing this oneed to just
get out to get my name out. I'm back, this
is me and y'all look right. So when I first
got monetized, they had my check split where I was
it was eight thousand, but they gave me twenty five hundred,
and then they gave me fifty five hundred.

Speaker 1 (52:47):
So a dude hit me up.

Speaker 3 (52:48):
He said, hey, man, between me and you, I made
thirty thousand dollars month. I said, he cap it. He ain't, man,
no thirty thousand on YouTube hour? You lying? But then
I say, look at you. But then I said, hold on,
I just had twenty five and five. I said, that's
so I went hard. I went. I dropped five videos
a day and I made twenty two thousand, eight hundred
and one month. I say, ooh, any giving it to

(53:09):
me direct the post. I said, oh, this is my lane, buddy.
So from there, I say, you know what, I quit
my job. I used to work at Tyson Warehouse. I
used to do it from eleven to night. Seven in
the morning, I was doing sanitation. I quit my job
because YouTube they also this day daggling in your face,
like they show you every day how much you're making.
So it make you be like, oh, I gotta get

(53:30):
to this cause I want to get here.

Speaker 1 (53:31):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (53:31):
I got my rent money, I got my call, and
I got my car and shined. I got my tricking money.
I got I'm about to grind, And I was like,
you know what, I'm too old to be going back
to jail. I had a free pay, I know it
would be some problem. I'd go back to jail now.
So I need to find a way where I gotta
stay out of prison. When I see that they was
paying and I could sit on at my house and

(53:53):
talk back and make money, talk to smack.

Speaker 1 (53:55):
But you this and you saying you ain't this, but
you slick?

Speaker 5 (53:58):
Is this?

Speaker 1 (53:59):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (54:00):
Yeah, but I'm respectfully slick.

Speaker 1 (54:01):
This is I don't know what that mean.

Speaker 3 (54:03):
You mean I'm not chauce to white?

Speaker 5 (54:04):
This is.

Speaker 1 (54:06):
You can go another level.

Speaker 3 (54:08):
Come on, man boy, I'm one of the most dist
the people knowing for real. Bro Listen, I used to
cut bad Allwust of two thousand and five. When I
took your hot again, that's when I stopped cutting and
stop saying an N word. I haven't cut the city
inwards since two thousand and five, but I had a
file mouth at one time. I know what it takes
on the internet to make a person feel low. Just

(54:28):
about you know how people say verbal abuse is worse
than physical abuse. That's true. You got some people you
could talk to so bad they feel like they lose
their self esteem. I watch it all the time. Bro,
for sure, I watch it all. That's why you gotta
have bulley people.

Speaker 1 (54:44):
But you can't respectfully slick this or yeah you can,
I do it all.

Speaker 4 (54:49):
I do it.

Speaker 3 (54:50):
Understand that what I mean by that to say that
I might say instead of me saying you will b
a E you soft you? You know you hey be
like listen, bro, check this out. You know you not
cut like that? You know you not with that. So
now you like this, you feel like, Okay, well.

Speaker 1 (55:04):
He ain't do it too bad, no he hed yo bruh.

Speaker 3 (55:11):
Sometimes all right, you know how people say is not
what you say, is how you said. So it's way
this way you talk to a person where you been
and got your little thing over and then you you
know how like back in the day we be in
the club, I see a prag broby walk by, I
might smack on the butt. Sometimes they might slap you
or might cut you. Are you beat? Don't do that again?
I'm like, you know you right, I did it that time,

(55:32):
so I know how your butt feel. I got away
with it.

Speaker 1 (55:34):
So you got some.

Speaker 3 (55:35):
Dudes like you might tell something like ho hold on,
hold over man when you talking to her, man, Look,
don't do them all, you know, you right words or
something I can't take back.

Speaker 1 (55:41):
But here's the thing. When your views get low, when
they go to looking funny that month, you gonna pull
out of this on one of them niggas though, and
you might have to go hard cause this month slow.

Speaker 3 (55:52):
Right.

Speaker 1 (55:52):
So, but my thing is, that's a hell of a
that's but listen, let me show you what I did.

Speaker 3 (55:58):
You can't.

Speaker 1 (55:58):
You can't slick this a niggs cool Well, niggas looked
up to you. You win and rat it, and now
you slick this in us to make a living.

Speaker 3 (56:06):
Right. That's legal too.

Speaker 1 (56:07):
It's legal. It's illegal. But that ain't it ain't cool?

Speaker 3 (56:10):
Well, we ain't talking about the cool pot. Were talking
about the legal part. Let's do it legal first, then
we do it were cool, So let's do it legal first.

Speaker 1 (56:16):
It's legal.

Speaker 3 (56:16):
So I'm doing something legal.

Speaker 1 (56:18):
I'm not back.

Speaker 3 (56:19):
Listen, here's the thing. I'm not a person who a
legend from New Orleans that had a name on the streets,
that really was stepping in the streets, came home. Now
now I'm on the internet known as a famous rat,
and I'm not trying to push my old killing ways.
Well man, y'all the boys get off the block. I
know him, the boys killing. I'm not trying to because
I know I could do this. I'm not trying to

(56:40):
get a one hundred two three hundred pounds a weed
and bringing in the neighborhood. Hit everybody off. And now
I got a bunch of shooters under my because I
know a killer in my city that did that that.
He died on one kids come home and he had
a bunch of killers running up on him. Didn't care
about that they was running with him. So I know
how these junsters like working like to get money. I
can manipulate people easy, bro. But I was like, you

(57:03):
know what, I got it, lane, i'm'a stay in my lane.
I'm out the way. I really don't wanna go back
to jail ever. Get in life, bro. So that's why
when I seen that I can get make money off YouTube,
b and you like you said, it's gonna be up
and downs. But how I built my channel. I built
my channel off of hood stories. It's hood g it's
ganges all over the world. So I can always come

(57:23):
out and make a little documentary. Go to the law life.
Go over on my computer, get me a case, Oh
the boy, there was some gangs and they gotta be
in the fityland. I gonna make me a little story
on that. So i'm'a always have a wave. And with
me doing my nine propate doing a lot of positive things,
I can always go live and answer questions like I
been doing until I build up the enough money to

(57:44):
put my movie out. Now, once I put my movie out,
or my autists get a get a one hitter, quitter,
get me, and then I could kick back that might retire,
i'm'a just be laughing at 'e. I'm'a do the president wave.

Speaker 1 (57:55):
Yah, it's it just it's just I think it's interesting
cause you you be. It's like you're like, fuck it.
But to hear your story before the YouTube is crazy
to say, Yo, I'm Birdman brother working at Tyson Food
and the people. That's fucked up. Though you don't think

(58:16):
it's that when young as you got free nigga, fuck it.
But you're right you went out bad though.

Speaker 3 (58:22):
Yeah I did that.

Speaker 1 (58:23):
That's fucked up.

Speaker 3 (58:24):
You ain't gotta rub it in my face, not long
and I did that, but you did it. You did
it ya primise time. Remember how I saved you tell
somebodyself like, come on, man, you're right worried something. I
can't take that, So you didn't you Dinet got off
for the real ones right look this spot, but listen here,
like that's why, baby, that's why I buried them, separated
itself from me. And I'm not mad with them, dude, bro,

(58:44):
I really not, because I pray for two things. I
asked the law for two things. Let me out while
I'm alive and healthy, and let me out to take
care of my mother, because that lady rode me from
juvenile stay to the face. Give me a chance to
take care of her. And I got granted those two,
so I don't worry about nothing else.

Speaker 1 (58:59):
Who is it's Gladys, that's baby mother. So y'all had
the same father. Yeah, yeah, and you got a chance
to get with your mother. So you was in there
praying and begging to get out that up he telling
me it was sweet in there.

Speaker 3 (59:15):
Yeah, it's good for who the dudes that tell it
were sweet there either.

Speaker 1 (59:20):
They had to have him a boy like you, you
saying that you telling me that it was cool. I
was good and you had money I was.

Speaker 3 (59:27):
They took it. Listen in prison you want money, you
want to be able to go to commissary, you want
to be able to go to visit. You want to
get mail, you want to get emails. I had all that,
but it was just something missing every night when they
locked that doorman.

Speaker 1 (59:42):
There they living by the cold, and then you went
down that road. No no, no, no, you got twenty bodies.
Now you tell it.

Speaker 3 (59:49):
But I just gave up to listen. So all I'm
saying this here loone. This is what I'm saying when
I when they locked that door. I'm sitting in there
cell and I'm looking up it. Sometime I think about
the little girl from back then, the bras out there.
I'm like, man, I came in this sister when I
was twenty three years old. Them people gave me a
life plus twenty. At twenty three, twenty three years old,
life plus twenty.

Speaker 1 (01:00:09):
They gave you a albow l if e for the
crank for the king paying charge cause of the enhancements.

Speaker 3 (01:00:15):
I was one of the youngest. Wanna be chold with that?
And I wouldn't even say and I and I wasn't
supposed to be chod with At eight forty eight, they
hit me with that and hit me with this all
this little crazy stuff to get me the tail on
cash money. And I kept it silid with them. And
when I found a crack, cause you know, when you
pray and you don't take the route I took, you know,

(01:00:35):
God gonna tell you, well, I gave you away. You
ain't take it. See, this is the thing God punished me.
God stripped me from all the materialistic thing and he
punished me because, like you said, my name was ringing.
So if I come home on the high horse down
back and like y'all, little boy, look this is what
we gonna do, I'm I'm back. I'm the religions. Some

(01:00:56):
a lot of guys come on and take the coofie
all put the religion to the side. They back grinding,
they back us, they do it all that stuff. So God, like,
you know what, and sewer twin, I got too. You say,
you say just cause you say you believe, you think
you're not gonna be tested. So it's a test for me.
Let you go out there. You're not gonna be around
your people. You not going that big mansion, you're not
gonna fly in that jet. You're not getting on them
rolls worth than fantom. You're gonna get I ain't never

(01:01:17):
that rolled the lift. I did ride the lift before.
So you're gonna get them Lyft, you're gonna You're gonna
get go go crawl. Not for real, bro So and
I get it, brou I'm not pressed. I'm not upset.
I look, I wanted some of that.

Speaker 1 (01:01:27):
You don't never think like, boy, if I could have
got out another way, boy, i'd have been with broad Now.
You don't never think about it.

Speaker 3 (01:01:34):
Yeah, of course I always go through my mind. But
guess what, I always stay too. As soon as I
think about that, you know, the first thing popped my mind.
But gangster you, you would have been a little flunky.
You'd have been running behind Bird and everything in bird name,
and when mad they come, when Bird wanna kick everybody out,
all I got is my clothes.

Speaker 1 (01:01:50):
You don't think you would have been able to steal
get off with the story thing. You just would have
had a solid name.

Speaker 3 (01:01:56):
I would have paid attend. Let me tell you something
about my bro. Bro is one of the ones control rolling.
So certain stuff I wouldn't want to talk about because
I have felt like I got it already home. I
ain't trying to talk right, you see what I'm saying.
So it's certain thing I look at it. Be like, man,
I might have been running a bird and them everything
in they name. I'm just hanging out sleeping. I'm back
in jail really because I gotta sell at his house.

(01:02:16):
I gotta get visited with him. He can say I
can have a visit. I can't have no bras coming
into the house.

Speaker 1 (01:02:21):
Think about it, bro at baby man.

Speaker 3 (01:02:23):
So you think he gonna let me hear bras coming
in out of the house, right, You think I'm gonna
have to keep it in the house and come and
go as I want to.

Speaker 1 (01:02:29):
Yeah, nigga, solid gangster, come home solid after three years.

Speaker 3 (01:02:34):
But you know he's gonna say, boyd please bro when
I'm home, come on, Oh, come on roll with me.

Speaker 1 (01:02:39):
So you but that's your brother. So I can't say.
But you telling me that you would have solid name
gangster who you were before you did that shit. You
would have came home the right way. Man. He would
have set you up.

Speaker 3 (01:02:50):
Man, Nah, not Stunner. Thunner would have had me living
off his stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:02:55):
You basically saying you took the charge man for him.

Speaker 3 (01:03:00):
Listen, Stunners in my and and now in my phone conversations,
let me at the spot, so to feel like, what
do you bet me? He meet him at the spot?
Meet me. I just go get T shirts and see these.
So when you look at all my stuff up, people
can be like, man, you could have bury baby, but
the nah, cause I just wanted to bring them the

(01:03:21):
main meet the important part this so cause I know
you know when you talk to you old people were like, well, man,
I saw this. Y'all got there, We got this. So
it's gonna be a ongoing conversation for me for a
little while until I could figure out how to can
get into the movie game or to the music. I
got some other moves I gotta make, you know, I
got other moves to make. Bro, I can't stay stagnated.
I gotta keep going cause this ain't gonna last too

(01:03:43):
long for me. Y, you know what I'm saying. So
I gotta think of the next. I gotta take a head,
and that's what I BET's how I've been getting the head.

Speaker 1 (01:03:48):
I gotta. I gotta keep you know, and your fans
fucked what you think you got a fan base out there?

Speaker 3 (01:03:53):
I know I got one. They love me, man. I
got the civilians because I'm not pushing degage. Let me
show what I did think about this, not I ain't
nine percent of the goods on the internet's gangsters or
ex gangsters that still live by the cold that talked
that cold stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:04:08):
I can't think they gangsters, but they talked.

Speaker 3 (01:04:10):
Right, do know what I'm saying. So I come to
the internet with hold up, I should do this here.
But if you go to jail, this was gonna happen. See,
like I tell people, I never had nobody sit me
down and say, hey, if you don't put them guns down.
You know, when you go to jail, you a shot
call on the street, but you're gonna be under somebody
in prison, somebody that might be running. Yall, you used
to call the shots on the street, but you're gonna

(01:04:31):
fall in out. They're gonna run off that compound. So
everybody I hung around, everybody I look up to, taught
me how to be a gangster, taught me how to
get away with the crowd, taught me how to commit
the crime. Nobody never set me down and say, hey,
don't do this in it. So that's what I'm giving
back to the people.

Speaker 1 (01:04:45):
Man.

Speaker 3 (01:04:45):
When I got like I was live last night. I
got like, within a few hours, I got like twenty
some thousand views just going live. Hey, I'm gonna let
this answering questions, just having fun and just enjoin. So
I got a different Yeah, man, So they l I'm
the I'm the Sevie, I'm the people Champ Sevidens. Yeah,
I'm the people Champ big facts. That's funny, man, I'm

(01:05:08):
the people Champ. Bruh.

Speaker 1 (01:05:09):
Because I slicked, though I I slick, know that it's
still in there. You just playing, you playing on these people. Man,
Well I just say that, and it can not be
in there. If you if you who they say you were,
they can't. It can't go away, Like unless the prison
was that bad. What was your experience with jail? Like
I was jail for you, I never had no listen.

Speaker 3 (01:05:29):
I called a stabbing. One of my Muslim brothers from
DC was claiming a table in transit and got into
the dude behind a table. I sit here and we
always gonna be moving in any day now. And they
got into it and we went. They was up the stairs.
I tried to break it up. We fell out the stairs.
I lost it and when I got the knife out
the reli religious room and had a knight bout like that,

(01:05:51):
long hit his colt of fitting and we just I
just went off like I called a ten in shank
and my seat. I got to write us for all
that stuff. So I've always in them from the rabbit
got the gun. I always been the rabbit. I always
had the gun. Right what I'm saying, I'm blessed, and
I thank god. I've never been stole off like sit
at the table, somebody stole off from me. I never

(01:06:12):
been jumped double tea in a bank or whatever they
want to call it. I've never been knocked out, like
I said, nobody never just robbed me like cause they
cut the bat. They're running your sail on it with
the note where that work at? And butcher you. I've
never had nothing bad to happen to me while I
was in prison. And one thing for sure, Toothay was
certain if it were the people who called you would
tell you, man, he was a chumper. Here they was

(01:06:33):
carrying the man he was paying.

Speaker 1 (01:06:35):
The hormity made you fiend for the outside so bad
to break this, looking at TV, looking at the magazine,
look at you pictures, you look at him like in
the jail. Know you was trying to break out, see
because this is the DA.

Speaker 3 (01:06:48):
Something yeah something, let me take so you'll be surprised
that the real thorough stand up dudes that was still
stand up on their case. But they'll know what you're doing.
Be like, Man, man, I can't do that. But Bro,
when you get out, bro live bro, send me some money,
send me some pizzures.

Speaker 1 (01:07:01):
Bro.

Speaker 3 (01:07:02):
You got some dude, Bro that's like they want to
break but they feel like, Man, I can't do it.
They just won't let them. But but for you to
think it, you there, they just take us. Just take
someone who like, Man, I got you. I'm gonna go
on and get a few key put them Sowhell, I'm
gonna get you out man, if.

Speaker 1 (01:07:18):
You're gonna do it, Man, I'm gonna. I ain't tripping
bro this but this is the thing. So the atmosphere
is crazy, right. You got a nigga in there here
on his twenty third year. He respected in this bitch.
We're gonna we talking around gangster, bro, they said, ask
anybody in the federal prison. Man, we talking around gangster.

(01:07:38):
You've been in here, Doug, we talking around home.

Speaker 3 (01:07:42):
You ain't got noa beit in talking. For one.

Speaker 1 (01:07:43):
That's for the show boy, you know how it is
in the jail.

Speaker 3 (01:07:47):
Yeah, but you still ain't got no business talking.

Speaker 1 (01:07:49):
But that don't make it straight though, if you were
running around, if you was running around listening to nigga
stories and then going bad on them niggas, that ain't
straight either.

Speaker 3 (01:07:59):
That's a fact.

Speaker 1 (01:07:59):
But that's not true, right, it ain't true. They say
they said I've.

Speaker 3 (01:08:02):
Been They got paperwork on that, and they had been
going to Printon. They can't prove that, bro jumping from Printon, man.
And you know, it's crazy some of the stuff they
said I was doing, and they said I did, But
the New York store, I was on a compound on
Big Meach. I got pictures then, but I had a
job in Unicorn. It tell you the dates, but it's
certain stuff. I was like, I'm an whole that so
because I toiled with him too, because I already got

(01:08:23):
the rat jackets. So at the end of the day,
if you're gonna do this, here right where your proof? Okay,
what this is what I got. So now it's back
to I don't know, you scratching the head again, like man,
I don't know because you saying this. But he got
this man, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:08:34):
Because you saying that. Basically them is dead people. Them
situations are dead people. That's in your federal case right right.
And you ain't got no live person that you told
on none of that. None of my nigga's in the
system is saying because they're going from travel for rights
what you're saying. They getting stories passed down.

Speaker 3 (01:08:49):
To And now you gotta understand this here, the system
has changed. All the old timers who had the old law,
who was on black and white. If I don't see them,
I ain't speaking on it. If he's not here, and
it's and don't bring that man name up, that's over
it bright. The younger ones in there like what he said,
Oh that's the homie. I'm jacket at the homie said it,
and the homy could be lying. I didn't seen a
bunch of hormies lie on the due this the robber

(01:09:10):
to bring them a move and be down bad.

Speaker 1 (01:09:13):
But like I said, but we being free. But picture
that twenty years in the joint. You know, niggas talking
to you. That's part of it. Bro. I know it
ain't close.

Speaker 3 (01:09:21):
Let me shay you something hold on in the joint.
A lot of the dude real do. They're not gonna
talk about their case. They're not gonna talk about.

Speaker 1 (01:09:28):
Not about their case. They ain't even nothing they did. Period.
They're not talking to you about their case. They may
be talking about you just about it on the street.
Yeah I was doing.

Speaker 3 (01:09:35):
Yeah, No, dude, don't sit down and do that because
unless it's your homeboy.

Speaker 1 (01:09:39):
No, they saying they be they saying that, Yo. I'm
gonna let you respond to it. They said that you
you was a nigga that been in there, dub and
you were getting close to the niggas man and getting
stories from niggas. You see what I'm saying. This is
what I'm telling you. This coming alongside.

Speaker 3 (01:09:54):
I hear what you're saying, but you hear me. Let
me tell this and call you when your homies called.
Did tell this here? Dudes, don't be friendly vibe like that.
If you not from our car, I would stay. Dudes
that opened up kicking you because this was dude's figured out.
Say see, we all we were from the South, so
we all would be together. But let's just say if
you was just from New York, I'm from the South

(01:10:16):
me and you not gonna kick it or sit down there.

Speaker 1 (01:10:18):
And buddy, buddy, they said they had you in a
transit some man. They got a whole thing. Bro, this
ain't just I know.

Speaker 3 (01:10:24):
I've heard I saw that. I heard that stuff too.

Speaker 1 (01:10:26):
I've been through all that.

Speaker 3 (01:10:28):
Yeah, I ain't tripping on running, you know. Vlad pull
up the paperwork with there was some of the paper
they were talking about. Did it Yeah, but he said
because Boosie was pushing it. When Vlad pull up the paper,
Blas said, I don't see your name in the way
in here, so I'm not gonna jack that though, right
this blast say this right so But anyway, I was like, nah,
if last find my name, because then somebody gonna say,
oh you lock, come on, come on back up here,

(01:10:49):
we gotta talk again. Y'all got in my bad.

Speaker 1 (01:10:52):
Well, but I think it's interesting. It's a it's a
it's a crazy time because you was in there twenty
three years, but you were fining the get out.

Speaker 3 (01:11:00):
You was in that mom God mean fiend, I was listen.

Speaker 1 (01:11:04):
You was under penitential rules in there thing to get out.
That's a dangerous nigga.

Speaker 3 (01:11:10):
Man in facts, Bruh, I made the rules. I broke
the rules.

Speaker 1 (01:11:13):
Long man, that's sucking me up.

Speaker 3 (01:11:15):
I feel you, brouh, and I understand that. But I
made the rules. I broke through. I take my lick.

Speaker 1 (01:11:19):
Yeah, was you lost in the system? Do you think?

Speaker 5 (01:11:22):
No?

Speaker 3 (01:11:22):
Man, listen, I would listen. Let me sell you something.
My last five six years, I was the man where
I was at. So I got a bunch of Muslim
that's moving, and you know I wouldn't. I didn't never
abuse my authority like that. But I got brothers that's
protected making so so I but I want to freedom.
I want to see how that. I want to see
see I'm coming be like man, let me go see

(01:11:44):
how this is out there. I don't like i'm'na come
back cause I seen the dudes come back three times volley.
But I to be like God. But just give me
one chance. I said, bro what man, it's hard man,
it's hard out there. Well, let me put me out there.
Put me out the way. It's hard at Let me
be out there because I do and here how to
be around in half my life in here. I want
to go out there. WHI I go to Walmart, I
can look at these women of all shaping side.

Speaker 1 (01:12:05):
Do you have you got a point of contact in
the feeds right now? Like, how does that work? You
can tell right now today, how the fuck does that work? Nigga,
that's some shit. I'm interested, Like I that's blow that
blows my mind, you know what I'm saying? Like, you
can call the FED. Yeah, hey, I know such and

(01:12:26):
such man, bruh.

Speaker 3 (01:12:27):
Anybody and not just me, anybody can call the FED
and say, hey, I got some informent figure.

Speaker 1 (01:12:35):
What would you No, I'm talking about a relationship though, Yeah,
them people.

Speaker 3 (01:12:39):
But here's the thing. They gotta thing what you call
whitsac with the protection where they'll put you out of
state for like six months ago. I think it goes
to a year. They're changing your name and do all
that stuff, hide you somewhere, but you're gonna do like
a year either a year, a year, no more than
eighteen months. But then after that you're on your own.
But they're gonna better give you a new identity so
you be living somewhere else. They do that, but if

(01:13:01):
you do not give them a yeah, but they offer
that to you. Yeah, I was like, I don't know,
I don't need that, No man, I'm going back. I'm
going to the streets. I'm cause in my mind, I
was like, Hi, I should be in prison. You tough,
I'm tough. We're gonna shoo the toughest. But once I
got out here and I realized that I wasn't gonna
have to be in the streets, that I wasn't gonna

(01:13:23):
have to be with this gangster stuff no more, I
was like, you know what, i'm'a thank for me and
the next man. I'm gonna stay out they way.

Speaker 1 (01:13:29):
And even if if you ain't told on nobody living,
you ain't got who you got to worry about.

Speaker 3 (01:13:33):
My old enemies. I didn't crush a lot of people.

Speaker 1 (01:13:36):
And that's the thing I was. I was, wonder, do
you have a word about that.

Speaker 3 (01:13:39):
I don't worry, but I'm alert. Yeah, I got I
know a dude that weighed fifteen years to kill a
man who killed his fault.

Speaker 1 (01:13:45):
I know a nigga waited seventeen.

Speaker 3 (01:13:47):
You know what I'm saying. So I know that's out
there alert. I know the no the nephews, the uncles,
the brothers, the cousins, Like if they could catch me
down bad, they gonna crush me.

Speaker 1 (01:13:54):
I know that.

Speaker 3 (01:13:54):
So that's why you're not gonna see me in nobody
hoods posted up what I look like being on somebody block.
I was there more. Come on, man, I'm too old
for that.

Speaker 5 (01:14:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:14:03):
So i'm'a go inside, get me a nice TV from Walmore,
and I'm go'a watch the two b and i'm'a out
the way, or i'm'a get me a broad to come
over and hang out with me and we gonna watch
Netflix and chill. That is what it is, bruh.

Speaker 1 (01:14:15):
But you don't. But but but you don't never think
about you do? You say you're alert and if they
catch you, then that's what it is. You know, you
still gotta you still feel like it's a debt to
be paid.

Speaker 3 (01:14:26):
Of course, it's always when you're in the streets and
you took somebody life. Always all I'm never let me
tell you this long. I'm never gonna get to the
point where I'm all the way comfortable, never ever ever. Right,
I was in the streets, bro I I grew up
in the streets. I pleasantly to my gun I was
really in them streets. So I know there's the next

(01:14:48):
man up. I know them, the youngsters in them streets, them,
the youngsters. It't you for a body, But I'm not
gonna put myself for the there for them to touch me.
I I don't have everything I want. I'm not living
how I want to live, but I'm free.

Speaker 1 (01:15:04):
You make a lot of money on YouTube? What you say?

Speaker 3 (01:15:06):
I make decent money, not a lot?

Speaker 1 (01:15:08):
Six figures?

Speaker 3 (01:15:09):
Nah? Maybe want you know two figures? That's because that word.

Speaker 1 (01:15:12):
Six figures a year? You make over one hundred cads.

Speaker 3 (01:15:15):
I made one hundred and thirty five thousand last one
hundred thirty three.

Speaker 1 (01:15:19):
Then through two hundred k mark seventy more grand you'll
be making two hundred thousand a year just on that.
That's a that's a that's a lot.

Speaker 3 (01:15:26):
And that's only one source of income. This amage. I
was able to break into the Facebook all this other
stuff they have. Right then I could keep keep my
foot up. But right now I gotta keep him down. Yeah,
I gotta stay grounded.

Speaker 1 (01:15:40):
How they bird Man found out you was out?

Speaker 3 (01:15:43):
I called him and the first thing he had let
me talk to Torn and Braxton. Then he got down
and bit and say, man, which is up here?

Speaker 1 (01:15:51):
You name?

Speaker 3 (01:15:52):
Talk to some some hots or some rat stuff. So yeah,
that's what it is. He said, Man, well, I'm happy
I heard it from you. He's said, bruh, you know
you made your big you gotta lay in it. He said,
you got anything else you want to say? Before I
hang up? I said yeah, I say what's up? I say,
you got a pillow? Because at that point, I know
I was on my own, so I wasn't tripping. I

(01:16:14):
was just like, alright, bruh, I know what it is.
He heard it from me. I could have lied and
bought my little time, tried to get me in a
check out, and like, now this is what it is.

Speaker 1 (01:16:22):
Did anybody expose you? Like, boy, nah, I'm exposed and
this nigga rad it like that.

Speaker 3 (01:16:27):
Yeah, that a lot of people he went to him
tried that stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:16:31):
They still you know, I'm talking on the internet, like
before you said something.

Speaker 3 (01:16:34):
Yeah, Jay once had to du C hooked up something
to me. I was telling on them and I tried
to do it. They gotta had a big or.

Speaker 1 (01:16:40):
I was like, what this, well, this is this?

Speaker 3 (01:16:41):
You know when I was in the FAD, they had
a article they had put out on one of them
stations about me and telling on bird Band and Slim
and about the company. I was like, man, what kind
of crazy? So that's what I found out how powerful
the internet was.

Speaker 1 (01:16:54):
What was you doing in jail.

Speaker 3 (01:16:58):
Chilling per go to jumr uh I hordy like. I
had to stopped watching TV til one time cau More
Elite told me you gotta start it, Jordan while you
have it. So I started back watching TV. Go work
out what what m my female come through?

Speaker 1 (01:17:14):
I'll try to you wanna smoking or nothing? I never
my life smoke, never smoke.

Speaker 3 (01:17:18):
I never my life smoke. I never my life drank.
You did all that shit sober never. I've never smoked
a weed. I've never snorted a heroine. I never snorted cocaine.
I never popped pills. I never drank no kind of alcohol,
never in my life.

Speaker 1 (01:17:33):
You know what was the nineteen nineties like in the water.

Speaker 3 (01:17:36):
M man, that was my time.

Speaker 1 (01:17:39):
I know this here.

Speaker 3 (01:17:39):
You know when Slim they got a video with s
Magnary Slim what they call Solda Slim say, if you
was off the porch and you live past nineteen ninety four,
you a gangster. Nineteen ninety four for me was January.
I got arrested for intimidating no witness February. I went
to jail for murder March April, I got out of me.

(01:18:01):
I got stabbed in my chest. In June, I got
shot up in July. Went back to jail for murder.
In August beat the murder dropped. The murder I had
a probation hole got out on probation born in January
of ninety five, ninety four, I go to court, I
mean February, I go to court. The jud to my
group signed that people you be going to jail for

(01:18:22):
too many murder since you been on probation. I'm'a violate.
You c come back to court. I said, yes, sir.
I went and signing that people went to the lois
pack all my stuff. I ran. I got caught in
March in ninety five. When did my bed come home?
In ninety six, I was home from That's as long
as I been home since I had started going to
jail in nineteen ninety It was a year eleven months.
Then I went to the FEDS. But for the nineties,

(01:18:43):
the ninety was a was was beautiful for me, cause
I broke out in nineteen ninety one.

Speaker 1 (01:18:50):
When I uh, you broke out the juvenile or the jail.

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