Feat Young Thug - Young Thug BREAKS SILENCE on Jail Call EXTORTION, SENDS MESSAGE to Gunna & Addresses Features Pulled - Part 1 - ITS UP THERE PODCAST W/LOONEY

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Sure your fans want to know has those jail calls
affected anything with your relationships with anybody that was spoken though,
some of the fans question, is the reconciliation on the
table for you and Gunner because you speak that way
about it?

Speaker 2 (00:17):
Or is this just you in your unpacking.

Speaker 3 (00:20):
Face you broke. I know how I felt about you.
I know what I did with you and for you.
You know how you know all the times we shaid
we don't cried together before about ship that we feel like, man,
he got damned, but he came with us, but he
ain't doing right back to back for you know what
I'm saying, we don't have too many of them moments.
I'm then there gonna be around you in the future
and be crying every god now day, teaching like game

(00:44):
plan because goddamn, we had already went through the sheriff
and got the phone calls blocked, so nobody can't get
the phone calls. What so they was blocked? Why they
was leaking? Yeah, somebody, somebody had already got them. So
most people had tried to extort us to another person
had already had this shit too, and they tried to extort.

Speaker 2 (01:03):
Us on some shit like, goddamn ship.

Speaker 3 (01:06):
We got these jail calls, We're gonna leave them when
we got them dealing with on the phone trying to
extort us. We done got damn you know what I'm saying.
Just we don't pay the fifty grand.

Speaker 1 (01:23):
Yo, yo, yo, you'll welcome to us up there podcast.
I am your active and attractive, charming and disarmment hosts
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in Culture Southern District Executive Branch. I got a legend
in the building today, my guy, young thug. What's going on?

Speaker 2 (01:44):
Brother? What something my brother? How you doing? Hustling man?
Getting ready to put this shit out? Man? Doing what
I'm doing? Man?

Speaker 1 (01:49):
You know you pushing yours Always push your mind man
as you tell them up man. So Ui Schoolie is
out right now. For people that's watching this number one,
just make sure that every better touch over the stream
that album and see what your pimping is. Is this
a reflection album? Is this a projection album? What kind

(02:11):
of album is this? If your fans had to if
you had to tell your fans, where were you at
as far as mentally on most of these records.

Speaker 3 (02:22):
Mentally, I just was like, man, they got me, got
me and on my mindset what with the album? Like
I just feel like I just needed to talk about
just everything shit that's transpiring, Shit that you know what
I mean, Like that already happened, you know. Like I
feel like this album is just one of them. Like
obviously I got different type of music, different genres and
shit that I want to push and go forward. But sit,

(02:44):
I feel like it's just a lot that happened the
last two three weeks. Man, you know what I mean,
Life last month of life been treacherous. Yeah, so I
feel like, shit we got I feel like this album
I had to just speak on a lot of shit
was happening, you know.

Speaker 2 (02:56):
What I mean.

Speaker 1 (02:57):
Like you came in my I think a lot of
the people in culture many we used forget so fast
like we got our brain isn't structured in a way
where people are interpreting what they're looking at after distance
from event. Right, You came in the game under controversy.

(03:19):
This has kind of been something that you've been able
to weather all of these storms, coming in and doing
some of the gender bending dressing. Yeah, you dig what
I'm saying. You had people saying that that wasn't what
it was on top of you and little Wayne's little
situation where you had bought a six right that was

(03:40):
in a time where Wayne was unheard of to go
at Wayne? What do you think is different about if anything?
Or is this just the same recipe that made thug
who he was to begin with? What is different about
the controversy that surrounding you right now?

Speaker 2 (04:05):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (04:07):
Yeah, an interview, I thought my brother, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (04:23):
So do you think it's what do you think like?
Is this is this?

Speaker 1 (04:29):
Does this feel different? Or is this just the recipe
that made you the superstar you are?

Speaker 2 (04:34):
Oh? This this adverse? Yeah, this adversity that you face right.

Speaker 3 (04:37):
Now, I feel like it's different because the other adversities,
the other like obstacles, they were stemming from like how
I wanted to how I wanted people, how I wanted
to be, Like a lot of those situations from the past,
it was like this, this is what I wanted to do,

(04:59):
and I was just trying to make people understand my
point of view from that standpoint.

Speaker 2 (05:03):
You know what I'm saying, right.

Speaker 3 (05:04):
Like, this is what I wanted to do as opposed
to this one. This one is like playing with my
name this one totally different. This one, like, but he
ain't to say, yeah, yeah, this ship totally different than
like I wanted to wear a dress. So it's just like, right,
I'm wearing a dress. I'm dealing with the ship that's
coming because that come behind that. But it's like I

(05:25):
wanted to do that. I ain't want to do none
of this ship, right, none of these jail calls, all
this ship, none of this ship isn't supposed to happen, right,
So it's like that's what that's why I feel like,
make it different.

Speaker 2 (05:34):
It's totally different.

Speaker 3 (05:35):
And I feel like my manhood at risk, not even
not not at risk, but my manhood that question good.

Speaker 2 (05:42):
So that's that's why I'm like on this album, like, shi,
who just mean me? Right? I mean, don't me? Man
wanted them for real?

Speaker 1 (05:51):
On man time, Man time is you? I'm sure your
fans want to know. Has those jail calls affected anything
with your relationships with anybody?

Speaker 2 (06:02):
That was spoken? Though?

Speaker 3 (06:04):
Uh, what's up? I mean I'm doing the interview all right,
Like I feel like if what with relationships? I feel
like it don't it shouldn't up with relationships because we
are friends and brothers and like lovers like like my

(06:24):
girl like and all the other things. My brothers like,
we all family, and we already had these conversations with
each other, you know what I'm saying. So it shouldn't
be no weird shit, no weird shit, you know what
I'm saying. But if it is some weird shit, I
think it'll be because like the world didn't though.

Speaker 2 (06:40):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (06:40):
It's like the aspect of yeah, like shit, Me and
Luna had a conversation. I done told them how I
felt about what he did, and he done told me
how you feel about what I did. But the world
in though, so you go from like I don't expect
him to be mad because I done told him this,
Like we didn't talk to each other about this. They
done told me where I didn't been on some bullshit
that like, but you some bullshit I done told you, Like, man,
hell no, he's bullshit.

Speaker 2 (07:01):
I ain't doing that, bro. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (07:03):
We hold these conversations on the regular, like should we
be bored as hell just around each other? We just
be talking about that type shit all day every day, you.

Speaker 2 (07:09):
Know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (07:10):
Like, I think if it is some tension. It ain't
no tension with me. It ain't no tension when none
of my brothers, Like I don't have talk to everybody,
So it ain't no tension with nobody.

Speaker 2 (07:17):
I done talked to everybody.

Speaker 3 (07:18):
But I feel like if it is some undercover tension
or some ship you know what I'm saying that that
we ain't expressed or that nobody an expressed to me,
I think it'll be probably because of that. It ain't
gonna because of what I said. Yeah, yeah, it just
came out in the world now. It's just like you know,
your brothers, you know, you might be looking at me like, damn, bron,
you talking to a girl about me? Bro, Right, are
you feeling that type way? You know what they got

(07:39):
the right to too if you're having to me, I
feel the same as that way for sure.

Speaker 1 (07:42):
And you've always said at least to me, you like long,
you know, I'm knowing whatever that was, I shouldn't have
done that, yeah heah, yeah right, and we know that.
But at the same time, your situation in jail was
was kind of unique.

Speaker 3 (07:55):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (07:56):
It was like they had you no contact. You really
couldn't speak with anyone. You couldn't really be involved. As
much as you would like to order regular jail experience.
It's already hell. But to have you over there, man,
you got one outlet. That's your girl. Man talking to
that girl. Man, you know what I'm saying, Just talking

(08:17):
to that girl, I'm knowing that they can't trick me
with that. You know what I'm saying. I ain't going
for that one. I'm knowing they doing that one, right,
But at the same time, when it becomes public, put
a different stinch on it, put a different texture, right.

Speaker 2 (08:32):
You see what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (08:34):
But I just don't want y'all to lead nothing in
the l you know what I'm saying. We don't never
want nothing in their man. We want to stay, you know, players,
and stay about this money. You know what I'm saying.
And you always been able to do that. I was
looking at your stats, man, it says you got twenty
eight big and streams just on Spotify, twenty eight point

(08:54):
five million monthly listeners to Billboard number one album So
Much Fun when platinum Helvana is Dimond Go Crazy six
times platinum. Best Friend is platinum. You got so many
platinum plaques? Man, how does that feel.

Speaker 3 (09:15):
Ship, man, you know, all that shit just need to
just I just try my best to show gratitude, bro,
Like man, gratification is just all I able feel from
that like that I need to push out like and
I feel like shit, I don't look at it like
like on surprise, because I kind of feel I kind
of knew when I was since I was a little.
I always knew since I was a little some type

(09:36):
way I'm gonna make a difference in this world, some
type of way I'm gonna be him, right, I don't
know what that heim might be, but some some type
of way in this world, I'm gonna be one of them. Yes, lord,
you know what I'm saying. I always knew that. So
a lot of this shit don't be really getting to me,
like Diamond Records and all that ship and got damn
I got more than two number one albums.

Speaker 2 (09:56):
Boy, hell yeah, that's what it said.

Speaker 3 (09:58):
I going to them, Yes, sir, that's good.

Speaker 2 (10:01):
They gotta get that alway, right, Yeah, they need.

Speaker 3 (10:04):
Real for sure.

Speaker 2 (10:05):
That's hard.

Speaker 1 (10:06):
We're going for nothing, you know what I'm saying. We're
going for nothing with this one. Yeah, man, I just
I seen on the internet lately they said, Young Thug
is one of the people who's been able to probably
have the best the most risky album covers of all time.

(10:29):
Let's talk about the Uy School. The album cover. It
has the Internet in the chokehold. Explain to your fans
and to the people what message you were sending, if any,
and what's the thinking behind the album cover.

Speaker 3 (10:45):
I think it was just like some funny shit, but
it's still like serious to the point where it's like
I went with it, you know what I'm saying, But
it really just some fun shit. Like we just like
some funny shit. You know, in ourhood, we always joked
and played. You know, I got a lot of white
friends and shit, but we are always joked and played
in my hood, Like she you want to be the
biggest go white.

Speaker 2 (11:04):

Speaker 3 (11:04):
And that's why I said when I put the album covert,
he if you want to be the biggest go white?

Speaker 2 (11:09):
Yeah, you wat school.

Speaker 3 (11:10):
You know, we're just talking shit because so many big
black people don't one of them, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (11:13):
I understand.

Speaker 3 (11:14):
We just you know, it's just a narrative that the
world paint and we're just going with the narrative, you
want to be the biggest, go white. Michaul Jackson went
white for this. You know, all listener, we know that
ain't true. We know Michael Justin and do you know
what I mean, we just go We just go with
the motions like we just but it was it's just
all fun, like I just did it on some ship
like she I want to be the biggest in the world.
How can I be the biggest? The very first minuscule

(11:37):
but the first answer to that question from anybody should
be you gotta be white. You know, they always let
the white people be the biggest.

Speaker 2 (11:47):

Speaker 3 (11:48):
I love white people too, you know what I'm saying,
But they always let the white people be the biggest.
And you know what I'm saying, We got big ass
artists who that's black. But god damn, you know, we
just you know, it's just a narrative. I was just
pushing it, pushing the envelope a little bit.

Speaker 2 (11:59):
Man.

Speaker 3 (12:00):
Just shit, you want to be the biggest in this bro,
you gotta be M and M gotta go white. You know,
I just put the white album cover out. You know,
I'm just just talking shit. You know what I'm saying
it's just all fun shit though it ain't.

Speaker 2 (12:10):
No you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (12:11):
I'm not with none of the politics, and I ain't
with none of the political shit. Right we having fun.
It's music and it's not and you know you shouldn't
take it so seriously. You know, it's not like we
can make it out live anyway. We all gonna die
no matter what, no facts. So it's just like you
gotta choose to be happy and and put in the
world what you want to put in the world and
the legacy you want to create for yourself, because that's what.

Speaker 1 (12:34):
It's about right now. Also, man, with them plaques, I
know you don't honor a lot of the materialistic things
that some rappers do, like some of the moral standpoints
you will take where it's like, Yo, this is just
a song, bro, I'm gonna let Bruh get on it.
He might not be popping. I'm gonna put gun on
this with Travis and this and then when he ain't

(12:55):
really Nobody these kind of things that you've done along
the way, I think it just shows the activity and
the revenue made. That's why I be punching in on them.
Numbers and then plaques in them because I'm saying this
revenue I'm talking about accounted for, not all that cap

(13:16):
ads yo, man I made nah disaccounted for people ate
off this, Families was fed out for this. You see
what I'm saying. So that's what I'm looking at. That's
why I want to make sure at the beginning we
talk about some of the numbers the revenue made. What
the ground you know that you've been able to cover? Man,
it's it's a blessing to be where you at. You know,

(13:38):
I be wondering sometimes when y'all young get rich like
this here, do you remember where you come from?

Speaker 2 (13:44):
Vividly? Like hell yeah, because like.

Speaker 3 (13:51):
We THEMN there still we them not still in it
to a certain degree, like we still locked in with
the trenches. We still go home. We still we still
like seeing all this type of ship. We still see
certain ship. So we still we like we vividly, I
can vividly tell you anything from the past right because
it's like it's still there, like we we those types

(14:14):
of we don't allow like we don't allow ourselves to
like forget that those moments because those moments are like
what shape us as men like that's.

Speaker 2 (14:23):
What like that?

Speaker 3 (14:24):
I be wanting to remember my mindset when I was fourteen.
I want to remember how I was acting when.

Speaker 2 (14:30):
I was nine.

Speaker 3 (14:30):
You know what I'm saying, My mindset and shit like that.
But it's just for me to answer your questions easiest me.
I remember all that shit vividly, like a lot of shit,
A lot of shit I forgot too, But all the
shit that was meaningful, all the ship that that.

Speaker 2 (14:44):
That created me.

Speaker 3 (14:45):
I ain't forgotten none of that, none of them moments.

Speaker 1 (14:46):
Right because you ain't got you ain't got so rich
to where it's so out of touch to where you
don't remember. Man, I've really done this from scratch. It's
a different hustle, bro, It's a different hustle then climbing
up the mountain and being carried up the mountains two
different things. Facts, even though both of y'all get to the.

Speaker 2 (15:05):
Top of the mountain. Facts.

Speaker 1 (15:06):
I'm talking to climbing. You see what I'm saying. So
I'm saying, like, do you remember that climb though?

Speaker 3 (15:15):
Hell yeah, hell yeah, all them day Man, I came
from there one, two and three, we was about to
put out. I came from there for God, Damn, some
some shit happened with me and my manager.

Speaker 2 (15:27):
We part ways, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (15:28):
Like I started with Gucca, me and a long way
them while I said, loaded all those ship like all
that ship was like the crime I made pee wee
long I made. I made Yet you know what I'm saying,
gunna wam, I made these guys wanna do this rap
ship for real?

Speaker 2 (15:44):
Like a lot of them was rapping at the same.

Speaker 3 (15:46):
Time as me too. But like like I made take
the ships here is I made? Be Like but then
what we're doing, Yeah, we're pushing them head this when
we're working sure the crime. Yeah I'm not standing on
the block selling no weed. Yeah, I'm through it all
that little bush. Yeah, this ship, right, he'll pay off
rich this man legit the legit way. Yeah, but Shire,

(16:07):
you know now you can get legit se the weed.
Now for sure, it's a different world were in there.

Speaker 1 (16:12):
But back then, yeah you you you were styling in
profile and you're supposed to have been over here pushing
this one if it's gonna and if y'all really set
it on fire down there, getting on you know what
I'm saying, really started getting rich around there playing fact
you understand me with this music. Ship Man, that ship
is a hell of a thing when back their history,

(16:32):
this that ship was all this ship from the South
being a hell of a run being on man for sure.
But you but but go back to I came from nothing,
then what was the next project? Because see you have
this thing where you just was dropping, dropping dropping, look.

Speaker 3 (16:47):
Up at the rich.

Speaker 2 (16:50):
Hmm. You see what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (16:52):
It felt like you're trying to get back there now
where it's like, are you rebuilding thug after the trial
or do you feel like you picking up where you left?

Speaker 2 (17:01):
Though?

Speaker 3 (17:03):
I feel like rebuilding because they already have perceived me
a certain way and now you gotta god damn regroup
and just like figure this shit all the way back
out again. Plus you getting older, so you ain't still
like the hot nigga the world no more. It's so
many different rappers now, so many hotter kids right now
rapping and shit. It's like there's so much shit going
on there to the point where you done it, you

(17:23):
got it. It's a you gotta rebald Like I'm in
that rebuilding phase. I'm in that phase with like getting
these people to understand, like this shit ain't nowhere, nigga.
I'm him like all that is like n for not
even forget forgetting like the people.

Speaker 2 (17:38):
That's just like.

Speaker 3 (17:39):
Questioning it, like damn, bruh, how broun come out of
this shit like this shit for them? I'm doing this
shit for that reasoning. Yeah, I'm in a rebuilding phase
right now, right we rebuilding.

Speaker 2 (17:49):
This shit got tore up. Man, tow this shit up. Man,
Then they tow this shit up, tore it up.

Speaker 3 (17:53):
Bru he, nigga, let 'em man, I let these folk
divide this shit.

Speaker 2 (17:57):
Boy, this shit will be in the world.

Speaker 1 (18:01):
That ship, you know, man, that ship up.

Speaker 3 (18:03):
But you gotta goddamn one thing about it, Bill Gates,
Elon Muss. None of them got rich off of the
first company. Yeah, but you had a great thing going.
I'm pretty sure they did too. PayPal was a hell
of a thing for him. Yeah, but he got rich off,
he got reach off, Tesla May got rich off something else.

Speaker 2 (18:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (18:20):
You know what I'm saying, I be just trying to
just even though it. But you know, at this point,
I just be trying to just tell myself something just yeah,
but he do it on the third round on my
second round.

Speaker 1 (18:33):
That's how you got to do the searching for their motivation, right,
Because it's like, betrayal is hard to deal with. It's
a it's a it's a human disease, Bro, Like it's
a mental disease. It's like, Bro, the residue from betrayal
of my and live for a long time, and so
you gotta heal from that. And at some point it

(18:54):
ain't gonna just be able to say ignoring it. You know,
you gotta do some unpaid or something, Bro, Because for you,
I always wanted to ask you, because I know your
fans want to know.

Speaker 2 (19:08):
Before we even get there.

Speaker 1 (19:10):
With the last interview you've done, you spoke about Gunner
and there was a clip going around where you said,
I ain't got my twin, I ain't got money I
used to be with every day. Some of the fans question,
is that reconciliation on the table for you and Gunner
because you speak that way about it, or is this

(19:32):
just you in your unpacking phase.

Speaker 3 (19:35):
I think I'm just in the unpacking phase. It ain't
even it ain't even about like not with you or
nothing like that, because from I won't I want him
to like even if he watching these interviews. I want
him to just understand why I feel like it. It
shouldn't happen again, because I'm not gonna be able to
look at you the same. No matter what, we can

(19:56):
go get a treading all together, I'm still not gonna
be able to look at you the way I look
at you before we went to jail.

Speaker 2 (20:01):
So for your own.

Speaker 3 (20:02):
Good, it's better to just like, shit, we look I
love you today, I know you love me. We love
each other today and it was just going our own
ways and it was just, you know how he's just
sometimes you do that, you just you know what I'm saying.
Leadr Coin and jay Z split up. They still friend,
they still cool, whatever they got going on, both of
them got their beings. They living their life, they knowing
they're doing. You know, it's no hard feeling. I feel

(20:23):
like shit, and for my good too, like I ain't
gonna be able to look at you the same. So
I feel like a faith just had you around me
because because of the human because because of the eye
of the people on the internet, Like I feel like
having you around me because I'm already look at you
a certain type of way.

Speaker 2 (20:41):
You know what I'm saying. And I got the right to.

Speaker 3 (20:44):
So it's like, goddamn for your good and for your
for the sake of your your heart and your mind, bro,
and and the thought process you have in there, Go
get your money, man, Go get the money man, do
you know, take care of them, Do what you need
to do, just you know, for the for the sake
of yo, just life and your livelihood and your your
thought process. Ain't even no sense of you trying to

(21:05):
be back cool with me, because you're gonna we're gonna
be around each other and it's gonna be weird. We're
gonna be around each other. We're gonna try to be cool.
We're gonna the DApp up gonna be different.

Speaker 2 (21:13):
Everything.

Speaker 3 (21:14):
You're gonna be different, because I already look at it
like a different situation, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (21:17):
So it's like, at this point is people think I'm bitterer.

Speaker 3 (21:21):
People think that I'm just feeling a certain type way
cause I'm like, I don't want to be friends, but
I just be thinking ten ten steps ahead. I don't
just think surface level like normal people. Bro, I'm thinking
ten steps ahead. People think I'm bitter, but I ain't.

Speaker 2 (21:32):
I'm not bitter. At all. I got on the in
there any minute. I love them.

Speaker 3 (21:36):
I want you to get riched, Go get your money,
go take care of your family. Do what you're doing,
change your life. You're working out, you do what you
need to do. You know shit, I've been told you
to do. You came around, You're doing it. You're doing
what you're doing. I ain't, man, I ain't hate that all.

Speaker 2 (21:49):

Speaker 3 (21:50):
But I do think further than the average person. I
do think further than it's just on the internet. Yeah,
because you're climb back back to what I'm saying. So
I'm saving myself. I'm saving my self from possibility. Yeah,
and you but I got self preservation.

Speaker 1 (22:07):
Gotta start kicking in right because I have to say,
I'm looking through this shit now.

Speaker 2 (22:10):
Man.

Speaker 1 (22:11):
Last time, man, they cut me, And now I'm believing
on people that didn't cut me. You know what I'm saying,
I ain't trusting them now because of what I went
through with y'all. Do you have some of that residue
own you? Because hell yeah, that's another reason why it
can't be.

Speaker 3 (22:26):
It can't be nohing because they're like, shit, man, I'm
already God damn I'm already spraying these innocent people down.
God damn, you know what I'm saying. I'm down there
waking up every day like man, ain't nobody inning. I know,
God damn no, nine times out of ten everybody ain't
with me.

Speaker 2 (22:40):
I know for sure.

Speaker 3 (22:41):
Everybody who I love, I know for show, nine times
out of ten they'll do the same thing. They'll go
there on. I'm thinking like that now. I don't even
got no bit thinking like that. What I'm saying, Bro,
I don't need your ass around me no more. Man
cut goddamn not even on no bullshit like we ain't.
I ain't I try to do nothing to you. You
ain't even try to do nothing to me. But I'm
just saying, just our mind, our peace right. Like I'm

(23:02):
gonna be sent around you and I'm gonna just cry,
but I'm gona feel a certain type of way sent
around you.

Speaker 2 (23:05):
Brother.

Speaker 3 (23:05):
I know how I felt about you. I know what
I did with you and for you. You know how
you know all the times we shared. We don't cry
together before about ship that we feel like, man, he
nigga got damn but he nig ain't with us, but
he ain't doing right Nigga back back for Niga.

Speaker 2 (23:18):
You know what I'm saying, we don't have too many
of them moments.

Speaker 3 (23:20):
I'm then there gonna be around you in the future
and be crying every goddamn day now, I'm oh man,
like many damn bro, get over I just I just
like you know what I'm saying. It just like I'm
over it. But my getting over it is just going on, right,
I'm over that ship. I see you some well. I'm
not dapping you up. I'm not doing none of that.
But it ain't finnna be no disrespect. I'm not finna
disrespect you. I ain't never been cool with that. I

(23:41):
always been a player. I don't like bullets, you know
what I'm saying. Like so so, I just you know,
it's just like its gonna be too much of a
a burden or a headache to be around. Like it's
just if I be around and just be be happiest
and pretending, I'm gonna just feel like I'm just gonna
feel like I'm not a real person, like I gotta
I gotta be real, bro.

Speaker 1 (24:02):
I feel you on that. I gotta feel you on that.
I got you, Yeah, for sure, I don't even want
to be around you.

Speaker 3 (24:07):
Sad here now you sad now you now you feel
even worse about what you did. Like man, go you
look like you passed it. You look like you're going
on about your life. Don't just keep going like that, man,
Just live You're like man, because the end of the day,
no matter what, I still want everybody to just live
their life. I still want everybody who's on this trial
with me to live their life happily ever ether right,
you know, it's.

Speaker 2 (24:26):
Just like shit, I still want you to eat, just
not at my table.

Speaker 1 (24:29):
I don't want to cook for you.

Speaker 3 (24:30):
It's all right, Yeah, I want you to eat, just
not right here.

Speaker 2 (24:33):
Bro. You know it's a right. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (24:36):
You've always said that you didn't do the business like
a traditional executive would do in the record business with Gunner,
do you think that if you would have approached it
that way that you would feel better?

Speaker 3 (24:49):
Yeah, because I would have been looking at like business.
So anything if you've got them do the wrong thing,
or you take a plea and do the wrong thing
in any of that, I'm just look at it like
his business. The only reason why I'm looking at it
like it's some bullshit, it's because you my brother, and
it's some bullshit the ships some bullshit for jo and
on top of that, my mans, you my best friend.

Speaker 2 (25:09):
On top of that, you know what I'm saying. So
that's why I'm looking at it.

Speaker 3 (25:12):
I'm pretty sure if we just had like a business
situation going like like it was just strictly business and
we wasn't like real friends, real brothers and shit like that,
of course i would have been like ship I expect,
I expected.

Speaker 2 (25:24):
But can you do both? Or is that?

Speaker 3 (25:26):
Is it either one or the other? It's one of
the other. You can't do you can't do both, but
it gotta it's like rare. Both of y'all gotta be
genuine on the same level. You know what I'm saying,
because your brother like brotherhood, I'm gonna do. I'm gonna
do a deal with you from a brother's standpoint, I'm
gonna do a deal with you way different than I'm

(25:47):
gonna do a deal with I'm just signing it like
of course, but it's like, sh are you the same way.

Speaker 2 (25:55):
I gotta be both gott to be genuine.

Speaker 3 (25:57):
Yeah, because one you could, it can work, But if
it's one being genuine, than the end or how mean
birth situation in it not saying that he ain't genuine
He went genuinely. He genuinely loved me, he went with me.
He just he just loved goddamn. I just feel like
he loved his career, like he just loved like his
his career or something like that. More it's like you

(26:19):
love that shit more than you love me. And I
ain't never love him, none of this shit more than
I love you. Right, so I feel like I'm overenless.
Feel like you love me for sure. We got you,
my brother, We got love for the show, for show
love each other. But obviously my love was deeper than
my love ran deeper in yours.

Speaker 2 (26:34):
You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 (26:35):
Did that trial? What residue on you from the trial?
I think, cause we haven't heard how you felt in trial,
how you felt being going through that for those two years?
How did young thug feel every day being tried to
the trial and going through that?

Speaker 2 (26:53):
Like what was your mindset while you were shit?

Speaker 3 (26:57):
Just like talking to my children coping in those ways
like ways that I can I was.

Speaker 2 (27:01):
I wasn't in like a good jail with it, Like
I was just bullshit.

Speaker 3 (27:04):
Like I mean, car counter this shit biting like, ain't
no phone, ain't no emotion or nothing. I'm on the
goddamn jail phone just talking, bra Ain't no phone, ain't
ain't a single phone in that.

Speaker 2 (27:14):
Ain't nothing going on that bit.

Speaker 1 (27:16):
You addressed that because people saying man that, then how
he ain't got a phone?

Speaker 2 (27:19):
We know, look with nothing to got far, nothing car.
Good for who you think you are? The sheriff ain't
got a phone it on, but you can't. You ain't.

Speaker 3 (27:28):
Even the police not even allowed to have phones into jail.
They got to leave the phone in the car, or
they got to turn it in when they come into jail.
You can't even sneak as an officer and have your
phone on you. When you get to work, you go
through the machine, they take your phone. Then your phone
is in a whole nother place. Your phone in a
pubby at the front of the jail, in the cubbin,
and you down here working. Ain't none of that, no folk.

(27:50):
I'm telling you, they gonna if an inmate get a
phone in there, they gonna know exactly where it came from. Yeah,
I'm telling you yeah. Because nobody can't have a phone,
even the officers wonder why it is like that.

Speaker 2 (28:00):
I didn't hear you like that. Yow.

Speaker 3 (28:01):
They run their ship maximum or something. Man, they just
running their ship like that, Like so it wouldn't be
so much different. Shit happened in so many minutesapps, Like,
so much shit just happening because of the jail of
the jails, Like it's so much shit happening because it's
just a lot of motion.

Speaker 2 (28:14):
It's a lot of shit going.

Speaker 3 (28:15):
Yeah, cot count ain't then going on in that bit.
It's less got damn wars. It's less murders. It's I
mean less murders in the jail. It's less crimes having
it in the jail, less drugs coming in. You know,
it's just like way less because they just run a
tight ship. I mean that ain't no motion. But I
was trying to get it on that bit my whole
three year. What I know you was, that's man, they're

(28:39):
trying to do anything.

Speaker 2 (28:41):
Get the line.

Speaker 3 (28:41):
Yeah, but that why they go on the phone like
I got damn fifty thousand jail calls in that bit, Mandy.

Speaker 1 (28:49):
I wonder why you didn't seal them, Why we didn't
have them, Why Brian Still or somebody didn't know them, man,
we gotta sell less ship or do something to make
it where I didn't ever expect that though you couldn't
have saw that coming.

Speaker 3 (29:01):
The only reason why I did is because it happened
one time when I was in jail show. But it
was just like some fans. They just posted one video.
It's a it's a it's a prison page. It's an
Instagram page that pro posts jail phone calls. They just
go all around the world just buying jail phone calls
with me, and they forge the men and they girls
and shit.

Speaker 2 (29:20):
And they just post it.

Speaker 3 (29:21):
But they most of the time they be posting like
love shit. They post like when you are with your girl,
like being like on some lovely devil shit. So the
first time they ever got leaked, it was some loved
devil shit with me and Ria. My lawyer hit God
damn the sheriff.

Speaker 2 (29:35):
At the jail.

Speaker 3 (29:36):
Then I remember that, like, hey, these folks got there.
That's when we find out, well me, I'm pretty sure
brand them. That's when I find out, like god damn, Oh,
your jail causes public record, Like people can just go
get anybody can go get it.

Speaker 2 (29:49):

Speaker 3 (29:50):
I found that out then, But then my lawyer got them,
you know, got in touch with the sheriff craig ons
down there and called and they end up got damn
doing something type of ship where he blocked my ship
like nobody can't call it that and didn't get it.

Speaker 2 (30:04):
So that's why I feel like it was. It was
it was a strategic.

Speaker 3 (30:07):
Like game plan because goddamn, we had already went through
the sheriff and got the phone calls blocked, so nobody
can't get the phone calls. What so they was blocked?
Why they was leaking? Yeah, somebody, somebody had already got
them and were just holding them.

Speaker 2 (30:23):
Because we got them blocked.

Speaker 3 (30:24):
When when the very first phone call came out, which
was like two twenty three, that's when we got We
got so they bitch, are you saying they've been holding them? Yeah,
whoever leaking to jail calls, they got them. Whoever was
leaking to jail car they were holding them. They already
had them. We just found this ship out through the
through the through the sheriff in it at card County.

(30:46):
The sheriff like, nah, when I told y'all in his
email in two down and early two down to twenty three.
When I told y'all, we shotting the system down. You
can't google his name or nothing in the system. We
shouting that ship down when he told my lord, when
I told y'all in two twenty three, that's what happened.
Nobody ain't been able to call here and get no
nothing done since that day. But see I them like,

(31:08):
oh damn, somebody they must have been had they just
sitting them hold of them. But see I heard a
lot of people reported.

Speaker 1 (31:13):
That like what ten days ago that they cob kind
of released something that now it's off limits and you
can no longer get them.

Speaker 3 (31:22):
Nah, but he been did it. He been did that.
I'm telling you he did that ship when I was
in jail. Yeah, that she happened when I was in
jail the first time that shit got leaked because god
damned some most people had tried to extort us too.
Another person had already had the ship too, and they
tried to extort us on some ship, like goddamn ship.
We got these jail calls, we're gonna leave them. We

(31:46):
gonna god damn these jail cars. Have goddamn thought cheto Maria.
This god damn jail car with this this like all
that tight shit.

Speaker 2 (31:55):
They were trying to extort me, They were trying to
extore them. I was up.

Speaker 3 (31:58):
Yeah, it was a real situation when I was in jail,
Like whoever got all of jail call, they probably got
them jail call too. When we got them dealing with
the motherfucker on the phone trying to extort us, We
done got damn. You know what I'm saying, Just we
don't pay these four fifty grand? Me and Mariah done
got damn paid fifty grand for.

Speaker 2 (32:16):
The for the lady who had them.

Speaker 3 (32:18):
Because when we figure out the lady had them, that
was like early twenty twenty three, when we figured that
shit out, then you know what I'm saying, and the
lady got damn we paid her fifty grand.

Speaker 2 (32:27):
Like, hey, man, don't get this shit in the sentence.
Nobody know that.

Speaker 3 (32:29):
Man, just the leader to get rid of the shit.
Like it's a nigga personal life, right, please, what's up?
You know y'all just regular people. So y'all ain't looking
at it like y'all looking at this clipbait shit our
sucker shit. GE's some motherfucker real life, Like, man, man,
they motherfuck talking to my kids. Nigg I'm on the
phone talking to my kids. I'm on the phone argue
with my goddamn kid moms all type like I'm gonna
be arguing with Maria. We just like it's too much

(32:50):
shit going on for y'all to just have assets and
play around with that type of shit. This real family shit,
bro like medical shit, all type of shit. Please, man,
what do y'all doing? Like it's that serious?

Speaker 2 (33:01):
Right?

Speaker 1 (33:02):
Like you know what I'm saying, Ja, the world we
living in, it's the world we're living in, and it's
the new formula. But what I'm saying, is this the same?
Is that the same? Cause that came out eventually? Yeah,
the lady, God damn we know she. We know the
lady who we paid did it because somebody just told
us that she's something we done.

Speaker 3 (33:20):
God damn got the IP numbers. We done got all
this shit like investigators and ship on this ship. We
done did all type of shit. It linked right back
to the same lady who we gave fifty grand too.
So it's like we done goddamn paid, you did the
season decision, you signed paperwork and everything to not lead
this ship, and then you still end up selling it
again to somebody, so some more people and made us
try to make it seem like it didn't come for you,
But we end up doing all the ship and it

(33:42):
figured and we figured out it can't. It still came
from um and it's crazy like come on, see you
didn't even stand on it, like but no type of
people like you know what I mean, Like God deal
to people like like y'all you broken, Yeah, like you
just you you for showgun pairs like God gonna deal
with you. I'm not even gonna waste no time on you.
I'm dropping abs, kids leave on me. Nigga, nigga, goddamn situated.

Speaker 2 (34:03):
Yeah. Know what I'm doing.

Speaker 3 (34:04):
I'm having my old lady man, I'm having my money.
I'm living like right, doing what I'm doing. Do you
feel broken at all? Hell no, never let a hard
time home bluss. I'm broken for others from other ship,
like my brothers and shit like I ain't broken forgotten
that from like this ship having a funk all that.
This ain't nothing right. You gotta think what you just

(34:25):
said earlier. I came in on the ship. I came
in dealing with this type. This ain't nothing.

Speaker 1 (34:30):
And you know, and you know I be trying not
to say that, but you know, I be around you,
and so I'm knowing I'm like, bruh, that boy head strong.
That's one thing because I get around certain people and
I'm knowing that they head ain't as strong, you know
what I'm saying, especially if they was in this tornado
that you hear right now. But one thing I know
about you, Your head is strong home. That's a fact.

(34:54):
You understand me. But like you say, you could be
broken from other things, not necessarily you know this. I
do understand betrayal, man, I understand it from a different perspective.
You know, I told you, like the dude, I will
fuck away now you have set me up. So those
kind of things leave a scar on you, man that
never heals. Or you got to intentionally peel the scale

(35:16):
and keep peeling the scale and heal it.

Speaker 2 (35:19):

Speaker 1 (35:20):
Because my nigga is deeper than what we know, man,
and so dog, I just wanted to ask you if
you felt broken at all, man, because not only you know,
have you been instrumental in helping people. It just feel
like I couldn't imagine handing someone my life's work.

Speaker 2 (35:38):
You see what I'm.

Speaker 1 (35:39):
Saying, Like when you in this business, one thing, we
know it takes a long time to catch on fire.
And when I just.

Speaker 5 (35:46):
Hand you my life's work, what I've sweated for, what
I've bled for, I just put you in the spotlight onie,
and I gotta walk away from that.

Speaker 1 (35:57):
You see what I'm saying. Yeah, so I'm just glad
you that you're alight though. You know what I'm saying,
That you're getting better.

Speaker 3 (36:04):
I would say, oh man over good man, living life, bro. Yeah,
like you let this ship get till you got damn
for too long, like you this ship consumed to hold you.
You're in trouble, yes, because the world don't.

Speaker 2 (36:16):
Give a fuck. Like look at y'all doing, y'all posting.

Speaker 3 (36:19):
Real live, motherfucking sentimental conversations with me and my old lady,
Me and one of my homies, man two, three of
my homies, like y'all posting super duper like you know
what I'm saying, harm harm, intimate, shiit sacred. This ship

(36:39):
is sacred, bro. They like, I'm never doing nothing like this.

Speaker 2 (36:43):
People.

Speaker 3 (36:43):
I told me a men time, man, Unlet's shit, why
y'all ain't got gun the phone calls you. Why y'all
ain't got these nigga from I'm not no fuck niggas.
Them niggas do that.

Speaker 2 (36:50):
I done heard that too.

Speaker 3 (36:51):
I know that shit came from them. Nigga side. I
let y'all niggas be putting nigga bro. That's just another
but another piece.

Speaker 2 (36:57):
Of betrayal, y'all. Nigga did like y'all nigga just the
fuck niggas.

Speaker 3 (37:00):
But like you know what I'm saying, I know that
came from like even if he come from God, I
know it came from like reacting all them tight. You
know what I'm saying, All that shit come from niggas. Yeah,
you know what I'm saying. Nigga, y'all nigga don't know
nothing but betrayal, y'all. Nigga not real.

Speaker 2 (37:11):
Men, y'all. Nigga puts niggas.

Speaker 3 (37:12):
You know what I'm saying, All nigga, that shit fucked up, y'all.
Nigga do mo some mobile tray trying imagine that. Imagine
telling them some niggas you want you, you and you
and you God damn you with. Imagine you doing that
and didn't getting mad because he say that you're a
wreck nigga betray him again, super duper sentimental shit. He's

(37:33):
trying to divide and conquer some shit like niggas be
like that, brother, niggas, this is the world we end, bro,
Like I'm telling it.

Speaker 2 (37:41):
It's just different WHENM like, but how you get over it?

Speaker 3 (37:43):
Just like nigga, even if I was getting to the
point where I was getting over a nigga telling or
a nigga just doing the wrong thing, you know in
the quarter law, like this situation with the jail cause
and all this shit, it just spark it right back up.
It just make it back like, yeah, hell, I can't
never falck with these tight nigga yall fucking like, y.

Speaker 1 (38:04):
Do you take any accountability for for not? I guess
understanding that some of them niggas wouldn't stand tall.

Speaker 3 (38:14):
Here I would because I still don't suposed to have
that much faith in man and God, for I'm supposed
to have that much faith in man, but here and
I wouln't take accountability because you gotta think we portraying
the street ship like I don't seen niggas like.

Speaker 1 (38:28):
Yeah, but that don't mean nothing, sline.

Speaker 2 (38:30):
I know it, don't.

Speaker 3 (38:31):
But what I'm saying is it means something to a
certain degree that give you like a leg to stand up.
It's like if all three of us in this room,
God damn, we just chilling smoking weed, and God damn,
I just whip a gun out of shoot this nigga.
If you whip a gun and shoot him too, I'm

(38:51):
not expecting nothing bad from you.

Speaker 2 (38:54):
I'm expecting you on that, right, that's the difference.

Speaker 3 (38:58):
Yeah, as opposed to us you're saying in the room
smoking and God damn, I just wild out to shoot
this nigga, and you just stay with seat right there.

Speaker 2 (39:06):
I can expect it from then.

Speaker 3 (39:09):
If you just volunteerly doing show you just like doing
whatever you're doing in the world, in these streets or
whatever you're doing, and you putraying a certain thing, like
a certain image, if you portraying that, you gotta stand
on that.

Speaker 1 (39:19):
But you know you younger. So I'm on the other
side of that, So I'm knowing, I'm knowing that you
can get the costume before you get the credentials, right,
you see what I'm saying. So I'm already pushing that one.
I'm already not have seen it too many times. I
done dealt with it. I have felt it, you know,

(39:39):
I just I just done been through it. So I'm
on the other side of that understanding that the first
thing these niggas get together is they costume, especially if
we're playing up under spite of for some millions.

Speaker 2 (39:52):
Right, I'm a rapper.

Speaker 1 (39:53):
I got a chance to really try to get something
with defoulk. First thing I gotta get together it's my
costume as a rapper.

Speaker 3 (40:01):

Speaker 1 (40:01):
That's why you gotta hear a nigga talking his texture
and feeling to see what he really worth. So you
gotta dig through this shit, bro. When you on this level.
You know what I mean, I ain't no just he portrayed.
So that's what it is that ain't nig There's too
many niggas patraying daddies that ain't fathers.

Speaker 2 (40:21):

Speaker 3 (40:22):
It's too much patrin.

Speaker 1 (40:23):
Going on for us to bite that, right, you see
what I'm saying, So we gotta stand on the other
side of that way. It's like, hold on, man, you
know what I'm saying. A nigga did, a nigga should
have you know, looked through it. But you're young and
you powerful and.

Speaker 2 (40:37):
We came up too though.

Speaker 3 (40:38):
Right, that's another thing too, like we're done stood on
ten like since god damned nineteen years old too, right,
like we childhood home. It's like okay, yeah, yeah, for sure,
that's another thing to play a part to it, Like yeah,
why you don't seen any ny go to prayer? Everybody
on this case except me, and look way, everybody else

(40:59):
on the case, the whole twenty eight people except me
and little Quay you have been in prison. Everybody on
this case, Gunna too. Yes, it's gone on with gun
Diddy before. I didn't know that. Yeah, well I met
him when he got out of jail.

Speaker 1 (41:13):
So so you're saying that there was still decators there.

Speaker 3 (41:16):
Twenty six people on this mother for I've been the truck,
been the chain game.

Speaker 1 (41:19):
To make you think they can handle it, But you
know what.

Speaker 2 (41:23):
You're a man. You're a man. Stand on what you're
standing there.

Speaker 1 (41:25):
Gotta stand on it because I gotta eat it.

Speaker 3 (41:28):
The same way you doing an interview, and you want
me to take accountability for what I did.

Speaker 2 (41:32):
You think I did.

Speaker 3 (41:33):
I look at other niggas the same way like man,
I can't get no nigga, no goddamn the benefit of
the doubt, Like why you supposed to be to sit man,
hell and fo nigga acting like you on that Nigga
standing on that. Yeah, now you posted, Now that's right.
I'm not looking at it like, man, he can do
it wrong. Man, he are not putingnigg you been not
doing it wrong. He and niggas standing on that. But
I bet to stand back right, like you can't do

(41:55):
both stand on that or stand back facts. But I
make it hard to see because you got the choice,
ain't no nigga put no gunny on head till you
got them. Did you go do something right? You got
the choice to get in get in the car, You
got the choice to get on feet. You got a
choice to do whatever you want to do. And I
ain't talking about no crimes now. I'm just saying you

(42:15):
got autonomy, nigga to do whatever you want to do.
So I'm not second guessing if you would tell if
you get in this motherfucking car and go slide, don't
get your whole ass in the car, nigga, right, And
that's the one we gotta we gotta make sure to
push too because it's but again, see it's the mascot.

Speaker 1 (42:33):
Niggas like to play mascot. They don't like to play
in the actual game. They like to play mascot though,
you understand, and that's be some of our issue. Is
we push the mascot on the court. You understand this
nigga ain't got no business on the court.

Speaker 2 (42:49):
Fact, you feel what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (42:51):
This nigga here supposed to be over there with the
costume here you talbot. So at some point we also
got to consus that. But I get what you saying
too as me, and we stand on what we say period.

Speaker 3 (43:04):
And the thing about my situation is I wasn't orchestrating
that neither. So it's like I'm just a rich nigga
running around living life and I'm just getting phone calls like, hey,
they say, goddamn these nigga, undid that. Hey, they say
the nigga, undid that? They say the nigga, they say
the nigga back and forth. God damn having shit going
on with each other, back and forth. I don't got
nothing to do it. Then, I ain't locked in on

(43:26):
none of that ship, no noh that I'm grown here
and I'm me now, I'm fucking hoes and pushing what
I'm pushing it at that point. At that point, niggas
young nigga shit pushing the p like you know what
I'm saying. It's like that's another thing they play a
part two. It's like I wasn't even a part of that.
I went a part of that in real life. I
want a party, none of that shit. So it's like

(43:47):
it had your life in the rafters. It's like, y'all
nigga got damn doing that with each other and telling
it all the type of shit y'all nigga doing all
type shit. Y'all nigga got meat and some shit. I
ain't got nothing to do it, none of this coward
shit y'all. Fuck nigga doing y'all. Neg got me mixed
and some shit y'all got me in the mix of
Now three years out of my motherfucking being to schedule,
gone down and draink I lose forty fift million dollars

(44:07):
sending the month fucker jail easily owe some peasants, some rats.

Speaker 1 (44:13):
Man, I neg go ahead on man, how much money
did you spend in lowder your fees?

Speaker 2 (44:17):
You think.

Speaker 3 (44:19):
Probably about twelve or fourteen goffle Ye, Yeah, I swear
too much money in that bit. Yeah, it was a
few niggas that was sending me money. Shit too though, Wow,
Savage Pluto, drake cash. Goddamn, a lot of niggas got
dawn sending shiit my rile. You got them doing it
right with the family and shit. Yeah, you got dam

(44:41):
A lot of people were taking weight off of my back.

Speaker 2 (44:43):
Right.

Speaker 1 (44:44):
That's a lot of money, dude, Yeah, yeah, that's a fuck.

Speaker 2 (44:48):
That's a fucking lot of money. Do you think.

Speaker 1 (44:52):
I know you plead out. I want you to explain
kind of the thinking behind that, because there's people who
believe that you could have ultimately beat it, but I
kind of heard you speak about there was no way
for you to beat that particular part of the case.
Do you actually, your heart ever think that if you
would have took it to the end, you would have

(45:13):
beat it.

Speaker 3 (45:14):
Nigga be just so caught up, brother, Nigga be thinking
deeper here man, crazy, Yeah, for sure, Nigga having to
snap out of that. But Nigga Nigga then to be
forgetting they having a conversation. But niggas got damn damn boy,
Now don't do that. But we had these folks that
on on our finger tip yeah, or we had this work.

Speaker 1 (45:34):
Yeah, well we had this ship in the palm in
your hand.

Speaker 2 (45:38):
Bro.

Speaker 3 (45:38):
Still do but you gotta start all over.

Speaker 2 (45:41):
Work it.

Speaker 3 (45:41):
Start over. You start with the view, the view. That's
why I changed the logo and changing ship. Start over.
Just start thinking different.

Speaker 1 (45:48):
By pushing that that other side back to that brand,
back to that market and back to that pushing that
ship that you really known for pushing.

Speaker 2 (45:56):
That's what we're doing now. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (45:57):
But it's so crazy because like now don't got trust
as I don't got enough. I don't got the trust
that I need to have in artists and ship. Now,
I don't got the trust that I need that I
still trust people like that I fuck with, Like I
trust they gonna do the right thing and sit because
some people just feel bad for a nigga. They just like,
I'm with you, bro, I ain't gonna cross you. So

(46:18):
I'll be having trust, you know what I'm saying, Like
when it but I don't be having enough. I don't
be looking at it man, man, Yeah, hell no, man,
I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, Like I
don't know cause nigga know what's that on me. So
it's like I can't look at y'all niggas and tell
you I don't know. Yes, I listen, my judgment is

(46:40):
so bad. I don't know what man ya Man. Yeah,
that's another thing about this ship too, bro. Yeah, niggas, niggas,
Nigga trust Nigga whole ship.

Speaker 2 (46:50):
They're so fucked.

Speaker 3 (46:51):
Nigga went from being just purified to just like now
you've God damn thanking too much. But yeah, I got
anxiety PTSD, but you got them shaken by Nigga jad
but too much shit going on now.

Speaker 1 (47:04):
But man, s burnt right and that I bruh, trust me.

Speaker 2 (47:09):
I know.

Speaker 1 (47:09):
You know, like people can act like they dealt with betrayal,
but you ain't dealt with it on this level. But
sometimes we can't position ourselves to be hard on ourselfs man.
You know, God gave us a pure heart, and that's
why I don't let people around me because if you're
around me, I'm with you, and if I'm with you,
i'm with you. I'm really really with you, man, And

(47:31):
you know these your fans want you to get back
to the big thug. And when I say big, I
mean the one that was the give for the one
that was so much fun. Right, what do you say
to them who just be patient, we working, were getting

(47:51):
back there, or like, what do you say to your
fans who want that thug to present itself?

Speaker 3 (47:57):
I think you can't really say that. I think you
got just showed up your whole motherfucking strategy and they
gotta see step by step and they got to come
to their own conclusion on like like Damn, he did it, bro,
he did it like this, he did it this way.
Instead of just like telling them or just trying to
trying to tell them something like at some point you've
done that started feeling like you're talking too much. It's

(48:19):
just like, man, I just want to make the ass
a part of their whole ship. That's why I'm doing
interviews with niggas like y'all like niggas that I feel
like honor, like real nigga shit, just honor real men behavior. Man,
you know what I'm saying, Like, I think we just
got to make them a part of the whole rodeo.
That's how you That's how you get show them that.
That's how you tell them that you're getting back to
it or that you want that you gotta just man,

(48:40):
be a part of this ship. That's why I feel
like this A'm gonna do this album. It's just like
you know what I'm saying. People listen to this ship,
people like man a nigga back on that back. He
bet you know. I'm still a gift for I'm still
got them doing everything for my artists and everybody who
I'm signing, who signed me now and ship, I'm.

Speaker 2 (48:55):
Still doing them doing for sure, Yeah for sure, for sure.
But it's done.

Speaker 3 (48:58):
The likenigga jaded. I'm jaded too. So it's like I
respect the artists that I got now, all my new artists,
like look, goddamn got.

Speaker 2 (49:07):
It all them niggas.

Speaker 3 (49:08):
I respect all them niggas for even understanding, right, call
them nigga be hear me, like, man, big now this
shit go. We pulling up on you, man, Yeah stop,
you ain't gotta turn your phone, man, were pulling up
Yeah fuck that man, get it, bro, Like you don't
ain't got to put no trust in me. They don't
wanna make you trust me. I'm with you, you know.
It's just like I respect them your niggas too cut up,

(49:28):
but that's when they pushing like, yeah, man, we know
you fucked up.

Speaker 2 (49:31):
Bro, we know you got damn, but we know what's happening. Yeah. Nah,
you just want to be appreciated that, Yeah niggas.

Speaker 3 (49:37):
Some niggas don't see that. Some nigga be like, man,
then got to do with me, Bro, nigga got bad
of me. But ship we're doing We're doing.

Speaker 2 (49:45):
Nothing for sure.

Speaker 1 (49:45):
And also, Bro, I appreciate you for coming on too,
like like you say, you know what I'm saying, you
having conversations with people you respect. And I don't know
if I said at the beginning, but I think it's
always important for niggas like me to say I appreciate
you even coming on and blessing the people and blessing
the platform right and establishing a real connection with this thing.

(50:09):
So I really appreciate that for show, Yeah, for show,
for show, But yeah, man, I just I wanted to
show so like, I just wanted to ask you some
of those things about that because you know, even with trial, man,
I watched you going there every single day. How did
it feel to see the whole world stop?

Speaker 2 (50:31):
Dog?

Speaker 1 (50:32):
You were having thirty and forty thousand people watching your
trial on several different YouTube channels, and the world stopped
to participate and watch what was happening to Jeffrey Williams
in Folkin County.

Speaker 2 (50:46):
Like did you even notice that? Did you peep that?
Or here?

Speaker 3 (50:51):
Yeah, that's why I was like, that's why I always
just like show gratitude. I always like, look at the camera,
lect that people know I'm up, man, I'm good, I'm good.
We're going through this ship, nigga, God, God that we're
gonna be out. Yeah, you know what I'm saying, Like, God,
I feel like I feel that It was really crazy though,
to just see that, like looking at this looking at

(51:12):
this ship some days, two hundred thousand people watching this shit,
Like two hundred thousand people just watching this goddamn ship.

Speaker 1 (51:18):
Man, shit crazy, crazy, bro, I'm talking about people of
the moment. But yeah, people loved you, boy, They were
room for you. The universe was on your side. Niggas
was saying, let do that.

Speaker 2 (51:29):
Man.

Speaker 1 (51:29):
They ain't wrong, they would let's not even get in
there all that. But but yeah, you know, I just
you know, welcome home right well on you Why school
is out right now for people who are watching this
and clicking this, make sure you're going download and stream that.
What's your favorite record or favorite what's your favorite stuff

(51:50):
off the album?

Speaker 3 (51:53):
Probably face on a new goddamn nigga what up Jesus
shuit me and the nigga Luci God damn man, a
lot of them, motherfucker man Waam savage God damn niggas
that ship Travy.

Speaker 1 (52:08):
Right kao, you know, I mean all the I like,
all the motherfucker ain't gonna lie, you know. They they
had something going online that people were pulling their features.
Do you want to dispel that myth to your fans,
like like you're some isolated man on the island and

(52:30):
your people that you fuck within the rap game are
not fucking with you. You got to say something to
your fans about that.

Speaker 3 (52:37):
Be ahead, man, you know, don't believe the hype man.
Don't believe you know they say I put the album
back because god damned, I ain't get the features. Man,
who'll thought we was gonna be on the app they
on the album. I couldn't get the great feature because
he on tour, he bed, he run around doing a
lot of shit. You know what I'm saying. But we gonna, god, damn,
we're gonna make up. We're gonna got damn. We're gonna
make up for for them not hearing us on the
collab on this album.

Speaker 2 (52:58):
Yes, and got some shit in the store for sure.

Speaker 3 (53:01):
But ship everybody who they try to turn against me,
everybody who they try to make I mean, like all
them nigga with me, all them nigga racking we here,
yes every day all day. Yeah, we hear man, man,
they ain't going to get this ship, man.

Speaker 2 (53:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (53:20):
And in this way, it becomes a time, these one
of the times, these one of them times where like you,
the world need to know, the world need to see,
Like damn, but all this ship going on goddamn right now.
But all these niggas got there on the ASB, All
these niggas still on this ASP right now. It's just

(53:41):
sometimes you gotta just take the time to think about that,
Like right now, all the niggas still on this ASB.
What Shady must be a good nigga. Shady must be
done did more good with these niggas than bad. He done,
did more good ship than this moment because these niggas
still with him, the niggas still rocking and nigga love them.

(54:02):
Come on, man, we play man nothing for sure that
she don't got to get spoken on.

Speaker 1 (54:05):
Man.

Speaker 2 (54:05):
We had too much.

Speaker 3 (54:06):
Shit behind us, man, Yeah, we ain't did too much
on god. Man, niggas can't go upgains me, man, not
much shit I don't did with niggas. Man, crazy everybody
name them everybody. Yeah, literally, it's hard to go against it.

Speaker 1 (54:25):
But I ain't doing that wrong, right, you knowing your
your million dollars worth a game interview before you got
locked up, you you had a bunch of your wide
sale people there and you were saying that I can
I can feel a rat or I can tell if
somebody gonna tell that went platinum, Like it started to
gain a lot of traction when you were in jail

(54:47):
because of so much that was going on with the trial.
Do you read, evalue weight your stands then?

Speaker 2 (54:56):
Right? Do you look at things different? Like because you had.

Speaker 1 (55:00):
Quite a few people in there that you would say, now,
did what was wrong?

Speaker 2 (55:05):
Mhm? And what was the question? Do you do?

Speaker 1 (55:11):
You do you look back at that and say, damn,
it was right there in my face?

Speaker 3 (55:15):
Oh here yeah here, Yeah, But you're like it's so
crazy because you God, damn, you gotta think you Probably
I probably were high.

Speaker 2 (55:25):
I probab have smoking weed or something sipping.

Speaker 3 (55:27):
Yeah, so like I s Posta took that, I Sposta
took that in he like that probably was God telling me.

Speaker 2 (55:35):
Then, hey, man, ain't up.

Speaker 3 (55:38):
It was a lot of niggas in in this in
that motherfucking ship that did was wrong. It's a lot
of people in that motherfucking exact interview that did was wrong.
Not even even if even not some people didn't even
do no Snitz ship. Some people said it just did
other ship. That's just like, right, so you bullshit to
a nigga, you know what I'm saying, Like, but I
guess I ain't see it at that moment right then
I can feel it. But yeah, like nigga ain't no

(56:02):
goddamn niggas had did that. Nigga been telling at that point.

Speaker 1 (56:06):
Nigga didn't know, but nig niggas had already been down
there in them interrogation rooms and all kind of shit.
Like That's what I'm saying, Bro, you gotta take time.
Do you think you move too fast? Is it superstar
lifestyle so fast paced that it can get out of control?

Speaker 2 (56:24):
Yeah? It can't be.

Speaker 3 (56:25):
I move fast anyway, though, but that's why I move slow.

Speaker 1 (56:28):
Its motherfucker now, yeah, because now you under control, everything
is good. I'm around you, everything is like militant is
moving the right way. So I'm seeing that. But back then,
y'all young niggas with money, man, that's what people gotta
realize a lot of money fame. I can't imagine that
after I hand these nigga my life work.

Speaker 2 (56:49):
Man, I just I just can't imagine it.

Speaker 1 (56:53):
Bro. I can't lie to you because I'm in the business.

Speaker 3 (56:56):
I know what it takes to get this shit rolling.

Speaker 1 (57:00):
You understand what I'm saying. This is not a small feat.
This is not something that any jone can just do.
I literally breathe life into that shit, and that shit
bite me is crazy to me. I feel for you,
my nigga. Ain't gonna lie to you. I feel for you,
and I pray you get better. And I know you
better cause I've been around you. And that's really why

(57:22):
I've been really fucking with you. Is like making sure
brush spirit is right bro on this shit, and you
really been doing that.

Speaker 2 (57:29):
Man.

Speaker 1 (57:29):
You don't play so many records. Let's talk about the
old music. Because your fans have a thirst man for
some of the older music that you were recording before
you were inconsolerated.

Speaker 2 (57:39):
What are you gonna do with that music?

Speaker 3 (57:41):
I don't know, boy, some of that shit I might release.
I don't know. I think some of the most of
that shit, man, niggatting that shit to the kid man,
Nigga get old dow man, y'all got damn sall this shit,
But shit, I.

Speaker 2 (57:54):
Do want to release some of those.

Speaker 3 (57:56):
I'm sure you got a lot to pass down to
the kids. That probably about fourteen a BYT fourteen fifteen
thousand song. God damn, I got too many of the motherfucker, man,
I got too many of them. At least sold your
catalog at at least twelve. I sold a catalog a
long time ago. I sold about about two albums out
of the catalog. Off of my catalog, I needed some

(58:18):
quick money. Yeah, I sold two of my abb I
got about like nine ten albums. I sold two of
the motherfucker not twenty something.

Speaker 1 (58:25):
Means with shit like that, that's pretty coolah, did you?

Speaker 2 (58:29):
Yeah? For sure?

Speaker 1 (58:30):
So now are you interested in doing shit like that
moving forward?

Speaker 2 (58:34):
Or you're gonna wait? Build it up? Some more.

Speaker 1 (58:37):
Wait to you and your forties, Like when is the
right time for thug to sell the rest of his catalog?

Speaker 2 (58:44):
Mhm?

Speaker 1 (58:46):
Or you can't see that far? Hey, yeah you can.

Speaker 3 (58:50):
The problem is see too far? Yeah you like by shed?
I want I want carry that check in at sixty.

Speaker 2 (58:56):
See I'm having. I'm having what I'm having now. You
don't need it. I needed it right now here. Yeah,
I'm done.

Speaker 3 (59:01):
She's gone, like Nigga done that. Man, the way this
shit going, men, Nigga might not ever need it. So
you've done that on some shit like she needs to
letting this shit stack up, selling whenever shit, Cause it's
that's like having a catalog. It's just like having money
that's not taxed. Yes, that's like a real checks. It's

(59:23):
a difference when you got a million dollars in your
bank account and you got a million dollar ring, right,
it's a difference. Yeah, for sure, no matter what this
ring minds, anything happened with this million this motherfucker ring,
that's like tangible. I got a million dollars right here,
this one item.

Speaker 2 (59:43):
I feel like.

Speaker 3 (59:44):
I feel like that's how the master shit is is
Like I can't I can say my masters right now,
get me one hundred million dollars. Now, it's like, now,
now what you got a hundred million dollars in your account?

Speaker 2 (59:52):
Cool?

Speaker 3 (59:53):
Why not have a one hundred million dollars in a safe?
Like I got this hundred miion dollars No matter what,
this one hundred ms. I ain't don't touching the ship. Yeah,
this is no matter what hunted me, no matter what. Yeah,
I ain't tripping on touching.

Speaker 2 (01:00:06):
Yeah. I needed it here, Yeah, I go get it.
But you don't need it.

Speaker 1 (01:00:10):
What's what's tour looked like for for you moving forward?
Is that something that you gotta run through Brian in
the courts? Or are you just able to go.

Speaker 2 (01:00:19):
On tour for this? For you? Why? School? Yeah? Hey,
y'all do what I want? The judge got damn she
shot it. She did mess b she shot.

Speaker 1 (01:00:27):
For sure, salute to her. Are you gonna are you
going on tour?

Speaker 2 (01:00:30):
Yeah? I'm doing school. You watch school to tour.

Speaker 3 (01:00:34):
Take a few people with me, yeah, take them players
with me. Man ain't gonna get us money? Yeah, get
us money out of this ship?

Speaker 1 (01:00:41):
Yeah, before you before you drop you wych school to
your last record was missed? My dogs and It was
like an emotional record where you publicly addressed and apologized
for some of what was said in some of those
leak calls. You said, Wayam, pick up the phone. Yeah,

(01:01:01):
as wayam picked up the phone.

Speaker 3 (01:01:03):
All right, real quick, y'all.

Speaker 1 (01:01:04):
There was part one of the official roll out interview
of Uy Scootie with Young Thug. I want to thank
everyone for being here. If you made it this far,
you already know this is not just an interview from
Young Thug. This is healing in real time. You're watching
Thug open up like never before. Oh you know about
the pain, about the pressure, about the PRIs and the

(01:01:26):
process of bouncing back. And he's in the middle of
it right now. And at some point we'll look back
at this and we'll say, man, that was a time
that you got through and you were able to withstanding
the storm and the turbulence that was brought your way.
Here's what I need from you, guys. Like the video,
drop a comment, Subscribe to the channel, and share this

(01:01:48):
to someone who still thinks they know what Thug went
through and how he feels. Go download, listen, and stream
Uy Scootie. It's outright now. It's a lot of bangers
on there and and put thrug in your prayers. A
lot of people don't know what it's like to deal
with betrayal. And if I'm being honest with you, it's

(01:02:11):
not just a knife in your back. It's poison in
the bloodstream. You can take a knife in your back,
but betrayal does something to the mind that just takes time.

Speaker 2 (01:02:24):
It's just it's just what it is. It takes time. Now.

Speaker 1 (01:02:27):
Part two drops in a couple of days. If you
can't wait, it's available right now on our Patreon, the
full extended version with exclusive moments you won't see anywhere else.
This is Uy Scootie, This is It's Up There podcast,
and this is Young Thug stepping into a brand new season.
Part two. It gets even deeper. I see y'all, So

(01:02:49):
thank you for watching.

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