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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You think Woody won't smoke with you about what you've
been saying. You is the monk and the biggest rat
I know to all his mean faces. He can mug,
he can do all that as long as he don't
God Damn reached for his nose. None.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Don't walk up playing like you want to.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
Find you love Thug on one end, but you forgive
Ghana without speaking the Thug of knowing the ramifications of
what they've done to Thug. I feel like once I
kind of sat back and thought about it too, I
feel like he did all this out of hatred.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Oh millions may know him from music and the videos
that go with it, but this is our video. If
a man identified as Jeffrey Williams aka Young Thuck both names,
are among more than two dozen defendants charged in a
sprawling Fulham County indictment. He's charged with conspiracy to violate
the Racketeer Influence and Corrupt Organizations Act and participation in
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criminal street gang activity.
Speaker 4 (01:07):
So it may seem like I'm trying to help Thug out.
I'm not trying to help him out. I don't care
nothing about him.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
What he got going on.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
Nothing I care about the truth The truth was, I
was going through a phrase in my life, and I
helped put all the blame on him. I don't know
what he did. I don't know what he got going on,
but y'all got me to understand. And I'm telling that
God and this truth lean me out of this. I
made all these stories up, put the blame on him
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to get myself out of situation. Because the police told
me they want a big fish and on a little fish.
They at who I want.
Speaker 5 (01:45):
I'm not targeting anyone, but however, you do not get
to commit crimes in my county and then decide to
brag on it, which you do that for a form
of intimidation and to further the gang and not be
held responsible. One of the lyrics used in this indictment,
just one of the lyrics is me and my crew
striking out, striking in all black. Send me the drop.
(02:06):
We'll kick in the house. If we steal a car,
we're gonna take off the tag. Well, they're kicking indoors,
committing home invasions, and now I'm using those lyrics that
they're admitting to doing that. I'm gonna continue to do that.
People can continue to be angry about it. I have
some legal advice. Don't confess to crimes on rap lyrics
if you do not want them used, or.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
At least get out of my accounting. It's which is
the real DA now?
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Like for real? That's when I just started paying attention
to her and then she is shortened after that. Bruh,
before it hit brought in with the RICO to my lawyer,
my brother. So we have lawyer. You know, I was
locked up, so you know, she comes to the jail,
We sit down, we have a phone coming say, this
is my lawyer. So I got to talk to her
about SERVI b I never got noh like like no oh,
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I want to take mother.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Oh, I want to see you the best said it.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
You.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
But this is so what I'm saying about, high level
game is.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Being ran in this ship. Bruh. This is a lawyer money.
This is the highest level of manipulation. Did you take
her to be somebody that likes street as though? Did
she give off a flirty vibe? What was she like
a the micy hit that you went public and took
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that back that you felt like he was a rat? Yeah?
What did he say?
Speaker 2 (03:31):
What gonna said?
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Roscoe? Do what he wanted to do. And the internet
don't even know this. This is my first time really
saying that if I would have let Roscoe do what
he wanted to do, things that look a little different,
you know what I mean from a street perspectivese. He
wanted to really come in and add all that and
add out me to death exactly, my man. Okay, okay,
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all ops munch is up there and stuck that.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
When it's up there, man, it's stuck there.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
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Speaker 4 (05:22):
Man.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Those of you that know me, we have conversations all
around the world about things that people want to hear about.
When we got somebody today that I think we should
lend our platform to and have a conversation, we got.
We got Mondo. What's going on? Brother? Something my brother?
You know, I appreciate you forgiving me a chance to
be on your platform. Like I said before your off
camera you talked about a lot of rials. Every time
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I every time I looked at one of your podcasts
and make you talking about genuine shit. You're keeping it
real and is it. I appreciate the opportunity to be
on the platform. I appreciate that. Bro. That's real love.
I need that love.
Speaker 5 (05:56):
Man.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
I'll be you know, this game right here gets so
it gets so treacherous, you know what I mean, because
you deal with so many different opinions coming from so
many different places. Like the good thing about me is
I know in books that they've they've left knowledge for
us to navigate some of these times, you know what
I mean. There's people that've been here before exactly, and
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we're lucky enough that they've written things down. And so
I've lately I've been reading books. Well, I try not
to get attached to what people are saying, you know,
too much, because it can start to affect you.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
Bro.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
The good shit, it can start blowing your head up.
The bad shit can even start to tear you down,
you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
But I try to even books like The Four Agreements?
Speaker 1 (06:44):
You ever read? You ever read shit? The Four Agreements? Nah,
I ain't never read that. I have read a lot
of self health books though, brou but I I never
read that. Which one? You what you look? I done
read for their Laws of Power? Yeah? Uh? The Art
of War or the Art of Seduction, I want to say, Yeah,
(07:07):
Think and Grow Rich That's another book. I want to say,
seven seven seven something to success seven steps or something Yeah, yeah,
seven Steps to Success. I also be on my it's
a book called African Black, African Holistic Health or something
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like that. I also be on like my health too.
That's dope.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
I read a lot of self health books like bro.
I really don't really get into all the other little
sci fi. I like self health too, Tea. Yeah, man,
because it's mental warfare out here, for sure. It's deeper
than physical warfare. It's mental for sure. Like it's going
down too. Yeah you did. Because at the end of
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the day, money ain't number ones and zeros when you
get a whole bunch of it ain't something that you
got in your pocket or something you can see, Yea,
it ain't number but some ones and zeros on the
paper exact. So this mental shit going on, this just
you think you got seventeen me, they ain't never really
showed it to you respectfully exactly. You know you probably
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not earned it. But I'm just saying, man, it's mental
warfareut here man for people who don't know. Tell them
who you are, where you come from. Uh, you know,
I'm a young fly, young man. I don't mean it
too my own horn, but I'm a young Flyer from
the west side of Atlanta or Vine City to be exact.
And a lot of people might don't know what Vine
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City is, uh, but Vine City is close by the Bluff.
It's the same Me and Rollo grew up together, like
we went to elementary school together and went to the
Boys and Girl club. But Vine City is a neighborhood
within the west Side, like the Bluff. We got Simpson
right here, we got ash Bird or Martin Luther King.
My hood is just a hood within within side of that.
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It is the West Side, right. I know you have
ysale money though people call you wye Seal Mondo. Yeah,
for sure explained why the wire seal is or nothing,
because I I would. I was basically one of those
who crack it up and started this movement. And it
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started organically. My brother it it, It all happened organically.
It just on some and and to make a long
story short, just on some shit. Like one day I
had on the ye cell belt, y cel t shirt,
will Cardigan little sweater and I walked in one of
my homite spot one day, uh named player. I walk
in this spot. He was like, damn man, y'all, y'all
just look good with that. With that Saint Laurence, I
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think y'all need to start pushing the young slime like
And that was that was his little lingo like a nigga.
If if people know a lot player, they know that
was his little shit, the King Slime and Triple Cross Kings.
So he was already pushing the slime. We were just
like the little young one. So he was saying like,
hey man, y'all y'all should push the young slime like shit.
And he said that. I got back to Cleveland in
the spot with Brother. I mean, I was like everybody else,
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y'all changed you'll name to god Damn y'a sline like Mondo,
y'all slink like such and such. The only person that
didn't change their name was Brother because Bruh was signed
to Archive of US. You know, once you signed the
real deal, your your your social media is you shouldn't
change your names as much. So Bruh he didn't change
his name, but everybody else did he mean thug Thug, Yeah,
Thuh Thug didn't change. He didn't change his name, and
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it just went viral from there, Damn near Brouh and
it just you know, the whole community and everybody around
us started pushing it, and then we just organically started
coming up with lingo. Organically just started coming up with
the little handshakes and little shit like that, Like we
never sat down, not one time and said and playing
nothing like That's why I never understood why y'all are
trying to say what they trying to say, that we're
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a game when or we an organized gang, or we
never sat down and say, hey, we finsa be the
biggest di we fin the biggest And it just organically
happened like that. Bruh, and I put the wise in
front of my name because hey, I'm one of the
ones you feel I'm saying one of the ones this.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Yeah, I know you had a I know there was
a time where there was a.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Video what I don't know. Thug didn't seem like he
denied that you was there, but he said something about
like I don't want to hear nothing about that old
time shit or something. Yeah. Man, me and my brother
kind of we bumped heads about some ship man. It
was pertaining some person and him had going on, and
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we kind of took it to the internet, which was
kind of goofy on our end. Yeah, I probably kind
of felt like my brother was getting a big head
about some certain ship and I kind of I went
to the internet on some ship like hey man, you
need to humble yourself like I started this ship, like
I did it. I was here then, I was here
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for this and we just went to going back and
forth on the internet.
Speaker 5 (11:53):
Bro.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
So a lot of times, that's why you might see
people or hear people come in and say, O, thought,
didn't you no more? THU the didn't even Yeah, what
do you say to that? When people say, I laugh
at it because a lot of these peoples are from
goddamn Buck George or somewhere, or you feel what I'm
saying like they don't really know us and they's just like, bro,
with your real blood brother, your real family, you get
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into it with your family sometimes. Brother, we just had
some misunderstanding. We got into it. But a lot of
uh a lot of times too though, Brother, I was
I was going to jail. I was, so it was
like we I wasn't really just as much as around
as much. So people was thinking, well, after we got
into it, I wasn't around as much and I was
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going back and forth jail, so people, I was thinking, like,
oh damn, he's still on with him or they never
cleared that situation up. Me and brother don't talked since then.
We done seen each other since then. I talked to
his mom and his dad and them, his sister. Everybody
is still love with us. Is just I haven't really
I don't really care to for real be around my
brother like that, because for one, it's like you got
it's like, well a little wooded testifying and doing what
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he was doing. So when I seen these type caliber
people around, I started falling back anyway. So it ain't
like me and my brother we beefing up. We felt
or we just had a little misunderstanding. They went to
the internet. So and people never seen us publicly come
out and say that we're back cool you feel I'm
saying like this is damn, it's like family, bro, so we.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
We ain't just pay you talk to him since he's
been locked up because he talking.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Yeah, yeah, he definitely talking to No. I haven't talked
to him personally. I always talked to him or seen
my words. But you got love for him, Yeah, I
love him to death, but I talked to his moments.
She's like my Mama, you think he appreciates you out
here like speaking on pad for the he wants you
to be quiet with this show. I don't know, but
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I felt like if it was that serious, he would
have had somebody to reach out to me from Big Jeff,
which is Daddy, or somebody would reached out and like, hey,
even from from from Brian, like I done have meetings
with Brian because I supposed to being on the witness
list on the behalf up thug, just trying to tell
my half of my part of the story about how
we started this. We didn't start it as a game,
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we didn't start the wood, so I supposed to have
been on the witness list. So if it was that serious,
he would have had somebody to reach out to me
and say, hey, made it to be quiet. I feel
like I know my brother. I feel like he like
and then he really can't talk a lot if we're
being honestly, because they listening, he can't say nothing about nothing.
They listening. They own it, they own it. So I
feel like Bro, But he had some real niggas around
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him too, though, Yeah, yeah, you know what I'm saying.
I don't think everybody you know a lot of people
went out said, but what do you think about a
little wood? I've seen you and him going back and
forth on line? Was he first of all? Before you
get to what you think about him? What is his
reputation from your point of view? How do you see
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him before this shit? I never really hung around him before.
I never kicked it with him. I never did you
hear about him though? Yeah I heard about it. I
heard about it. So what did you see him like?
Ain't hung around me, but they see me a certain way.
I just only heard about what type of he was.
You feel what I'm saying. I ain't never even been
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around him to be like to see like it's you.
I just hear a boy, Oh you just a little
street little from a cannavielle. Who just you just a
nigga from a canneviell in the streets. You know what
I'm saying. But I never really kicked it around him
or hung around them, or when I started seeing them
type of niggas around bru, I start I feel bad.
What's he stamped though? Before this? You mean stamped by?
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Like what the street? Yeah? Because you you you'll pull
a trigger, you against it? You feel I'm saying, so
niggas don't respect that. Niggas respect that fire. Nigga respects
shit like that on some scary shit. But you know,
niggas he he he was supposedly doing helling the business
in the streets, standing on business. But what what do
you feel about what he's doing right now? It's so crazy.
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I don't even know what word to use to say
how bad it is my brother like cause, for one,
I look at it like this, if you know what
you signed up for to be in these streets, you
know what you had going like, you know the shit
you were doing. And this go for anybody, not just him.
If you signed up to be in the streets, you
know it come to come with this shit. You know
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it's gonna be jail. You know, damn this chance you
can get killed. You damn the chance you might gotta
kill a nigga. So when you sign up for this
type of shit, bruh, and you turn around and tell
and tell on a nigga, and and rat on a
nigga and and basically sabotage a nigga, bruh, and take
a nigga away from they family and they kids and
the nigga was the this was the same nigga, bruh
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that was tryna change your life. Gave you a opportunity
to change your life. And you and you tell on
the nigga like, there's just the there's just the that's
that's the worst shit ever to me. Like, and it's
getting to the point now where it's almost becoming they
making it cool. So it's fucking up for like the
younger generation, the young the young niggas coming up thinking,
oh that shit cool, or I can be a gangster
and I could tell on the nigga and still be cool,
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or I can be doing this and doing that. They
kind of almost making this shit like it's normal now, bro,
and it just it's just it's crazy. It's like even
what is now understand now for people who don't know,
And it's like now he he acting like it's a
movie role or something like, yeah, he taking it as
a joke. It's like, but it's like, I wonder what
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thug is saying to itself because if you're sitting there
and this this is a guy used to fuck with
and he doing this shit on the stand, you notice
fucking the case up, he fucking the case up. For sure,
he fucking their case up. But I don't know thug
enough to know if his spirit can even relate or
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feel that, you know what I'm saying, if he even
thinking like this nigga up here trying to like, you know,
redeem itself. It seemed like he's trying to redeem it
a little bit on some of this shit. It's to
the point where you can never redeem yourself from what
you you doing that because of who you who. You're
getting a little fant and and a little cloud and
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you're trying to like clean your face back up. But
it's bro's once you do some ship like that. And
they got hours of testimony for nine hours multiple, yeah
they have. One of them was nine out. One of
them was nine hours. Yeah, they just went in there,
but they was if you noticed, they was kind of
tricking him, not tricking him, because you got to be
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a high level nigga to be in these streets or
you're playing yourself no better.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
But they was saying ship to him, like did he
get you a lawyer? He left you out here by yourself?
You know how they played up that for nigga he
ain't gave you nothing exactly.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
They kind of tried to.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
They were doing him like yeah, and then you can
see sometimes he'll be like yeah, man, and.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
Then he'll go to talking.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
It's like damn. I feel like once I kind of
sat back and thought about it too. I feel like
he did all this out of hatred and envious, being envious,
like fuck nigga, I wanna see you down, like fuck nigga,
I wanna And it could be I'm not saying that
the truth. It could be nigga, answer it fall for
you one time or whatever the case may be. Bro.
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But I feel like all this shit is coming how
he talked, and the ship that he's saying in these interviews,
and even the ship he recently just said. And understand,
I don't care nothing about the ug what he got
going on, like it's this ship is the whole thing
really started. I believe like on some he was just
on some envious hatred from inside. Yeah, that type of shit.
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It was on some To me, that's how people. And
I'm looking at it like bruh, and I know they shit.
The thug that went to jail, he's gonna be changed.
He's a chain man, he's a totally different man. He
never said that, he never did, no time. And it
ain't even just that homeboy lying up here exactly homeboy
saying something. Yeah, some of this shit is some boys shit.
It don't even make sense in y'all using it and
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it and and it's and that's what makes me speak
side my brother, That's what made me say the shit
I say and get cause a lot of people be like, no, no,
you a real street nigga, We know you. The folks
in the city like we know you. You ain't gotta
say that. But nah, it's more folks who don't know.
And it's people who know this type of information. They're
not saying that like they not even they biting they ton.
So I feel like, bro, this this shit. I got
to say something, brother, cause this this shit is serious.
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This shit real serious bruh, like niggas fighting for they
life right. So yeah that But but what I'm saying, So,
do you think wood is is m is messing up
the case? Do you think he's trying to h I
ain't gonna say that because that don't need to be said.
But do you think that what Woody, what wood is
saying understand, is n is negative or positive to the it.
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It's definitely positive because for one, he's sh h, he's
not a credible witness anymore. A lot of the shit
he's he said, he lied about everything. So y'all started
this investigation in this rico from all the shit that
he was saying.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
So now he's getting up there saying that.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
He told the whole life. So why is it? In
my eyes, why is this case even still going? Because
this is the reason, this is why you think so
stuck on him for so long, because now they really discombobulated,
like damn, we don't know what to do now. This
is our most credible witness. This is who we've been
talking to this whole time, even build all this shit.
Now he getting up here saying he ain't line. How
can they convict? How can the jury convict somebody like this?
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In my eyes, I'm not a lawyer, I just don't
see how can y'all convict somebody like this? Yeah, every
every witness that y'all had on understand was talking about
shit that and and and already been to prison about
shit that they did they self. Bruh, ain't got nothing
to do with this just because he the big dog
and he's the when I say big dog, he's the
nigga who got the most money and he's a big
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time rapper in the artist y'all just want to put
the blame on him. But it it's nothing, nothing is
attached to this man. Why y'all still got him? Ugly
case man? And then like you say, it's it's real
toe up, Yes it ain't. It's nothing. It ain't will
put together saying nobody got it there and saying he
made me do this. I did this because of him,
or I did this. So why is Bru going like
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you feel what I'm saying. I just feel like I
don't see how jew And I know I know he
was at first thinking like I got the money. They can't.
They can't frivodly ship like that. They can't fuck with me.
I got real paper. But they had a nigga in
there that was saying some ship that was kind of
driving them to fill away, you know what I mean.
And they was really investigating and trying to put two
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and two together on niggas that shit crazy man. I
know that I know that rip du hard out of
stumped here, my brother. I know he I know he
like Cole. Remember when I was told on and it
wasn't even a scale to that that dude was a
million dollar nigga.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
Man is a million dollar nigga.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
They snatched him from the industry, snatched him from touring,
living in mansions for sure, my brother. And when they
lying a lot of this shit, it's it's it's it's bullshit,
it's bush. They make it where you got a disconnect
from the streets when you get some money. Man, it's uncomfortable.
You get threatened forward. Niggas act like they won't smoke
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cause you ain't. You ain't able to, but you gotta
disconnect or they can play the rico game, which yeah,
yeah you have. That's the whole point. The whole point
is to make it out. Man, we ain't doing this shit.
And me personally, I wouldn't give a fuck what nobody
got to say about me. Brou once I'm out of
this shit. I'm out, brother, I don't I'm not. I'm
not doing this shit. The whole I just gets to
make it out we ain't doing it. To make it
out and still have one feet in the streets, cause
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this type of shit that come with this what's gonna happen.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
It's like what are we doing at this point?
Speaker 1 (23:40):
So the whole point is to make it out man, Right,
what's your relationship with with Fanny Willis?
Speaker 4 (23:47):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (23:47):
She was I had a CA I was finding the
case in two thousand and nineteen, I wanna say, And
I didn't know at the moment that she was was
that was I was the last case she was working on.
And I didn't know she was getting ready to be
the head DA until like after my case got ready
to we done my case, like I had to go
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to a uh somehit called ARSAC, like I got sent
to a little a little drug program. She really helped
me fuck with my game cause I didn't even have
no drug charge. But that's another story. Yeah, she was
just my lawyer, bruh. She was my lawyer before she
turned around to be the DA. And once I got
out from my sheet, I got out on my achamana,
she was telling me like, hey, you know, I'm Finnna
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get ready to be the DA now like boy, don't
fuck my name, or boy I just got you. I
just got damn d da DA. You know I'm laughing
at her cause this this is my lawyer. We having
damn the aunt te nephew type of vibe. That's how
I'm kicking it with her. So when she was saying that,
I just laughed it off. I ain't take it. See,
it was just like, man, alright, what ull? So they
had Uh some shit happened at the Wendy's in Atlanta
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where the police killed the guy. Uh, the police shot somebody.
So that's when I started singeing, uh on these uh
what this ch pressing hit? I started her seeing her
doing the presses and she don't lose. I'm like, damn,
ms whiz the real da now like for real. That's
when I just started paying attention to it. And then
she shortly after that brother before hit hit broke in
with the rico and it fucked my mind up, bro
(25:11):
be cause I'm like, how ironic? Bro? How does she
know about thug?
Speaker 2 (25:17):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
I don't know how to hear she well, how this
came about? I don't know if this was already on
the desk before she came to be a DA. This
is hell, Nah, this is something she done. That's how
this happens. It happened around here with a dude named
Glenn Funk. He used to be he used to be
a top lawyer around here. Then he became a DA
and he indicted a lot of the niggas that he
really to me. And I say this respectfully because I
(25:40):
don't want no smoke with the police around here, right,
But it felt like, and rumor has it that he
took some of the information that he gathered from representing
these guys all of those years and not maybe direct,
but indirect information and just intel. How do you is
that legal? That's what I'm saying. That's why she probably
(26:04):
you know, yes, I don't know if it's yes legal,
if she has if she haven't, if she kept herself
away from young thug see, because people what happens is
people like Fanny Willis will set a target well before
they get close to it, you see what I'm saying.
So she may have looked at all rappers in the
line and been like, well, I'm gonna get one of
(26:25):
these niggas to get to the next level. That's my
they gonna be my play, you know what I'm saying.
And maybe she I don't know what you what you're thinking.
I feel like bru It's bigger than just miss Willis.
I really feel like it was already something we already
know they was she was. They was already getting investigated
(26:47):
before Miss Willis even turned to be the D eight. Yeah,
but she came in and said if you rap and
all this, she took a thing against rappers. Yeah, I
don't know what that's about. She cat, but it just
how I feel though my brother and people can take
it how they want to take it. This was my lawyer,
my brother, so we have lawyer. You know, I was
(27:08):
locked up, so you know, she comes to the jail,
we see that we have a phone, come and say,
this is my lawyer. So I got to talk to
her about certain shiit b I never got no uh
like like no oh, I want to take motherfuckers. I
want to see she the ben said, but see you.
But this is what I'm saying about. High level game
(27:28):
is being ran in this ship.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
Bro.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
This is a lawyer, my nigga, this is the highest
level of manipulation. You're dealing with a lawyer. You supposed
to feel like that when you're around a lawyer. Yeah,
that's part of the shop.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
That's part of my game plan.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
For you to feel like that. You ain't supposed to
what these here is smooth Like you say that smooth criminal.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
So that's the first thing you gather as a lawyer.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
Pause, you know, especially running for d A after this,
she's on the trail. My Nigga's clear, she's on the path.
She ain't just out here for nothing, right, you see
what I'm saying. That's the case. I know real smart people.
That was lawyers for thirty years and just lawyers. She's
on a she's doing something. Fact. Fact. You see what
I'm saying now. Was it on the menu? I think
(28:16):
rappers as a whole land Atlanta was on the menu
in Georgia for them to say like a lot of
black niggas got money.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
Yeah, a lot of street black niggas.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
I started noticing that shit like twenty eighteen when I
got out of Pride and how a lot of rappers
getting targeted and kind of like locked up and pulled
over and shit like that. So I felt like that
that's that's what they was on. Like you feel what
I'm saying. I just feel like they were just on
the bullshit period. Overall. They were just on the But
but you think Fani, because your relationship with her you
(28:49):
think she cooler then didn't seem you think she's what
I'm basically trying to say, like, I don't see her
on some shit like even if she is a dsh
she got a job. I don't see home. No, Jess,
I'm just out to get you. Want to see you
go down. I want to see you in for the
rest of your life type of I don't see how
you saying that when you're looking at young thug. You
(29:10):
looking at it. Yeah, But I well, I'm saying, I
understand she the head DA.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
She the motherfucker pulled the tricks.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
But I guess what though I always say this and
I could be wrong, but sometimes I just I go
to I kind of think outside of the box to
a lot and feel like they're just like with the president,
my brother, it's somebody who tell the president what to do.
It's always somebody who's pulling. I feel like she's a puppet.
I feel like, oh, you want to take Paul Howard spot.
She worked under Paul Howard. She didn't one put the
(29:39):
dirt out on Paul Howard to get him removed. So
I feel like they like, oh, okay, you want to
you feel like you can do the job, motherfucker. You
gotta go, you gotta go. You gotta go do some
big ship. You gotta be better than how Paul Howe was,
and you gotta pull some big shit. So I kind
of feel like she was almost on some or did
she put that on herself? But she could have put
that on herself. That may not came from external they came.
(30:01):
They could have came from intern of us saying I
got big shoes to feel I know shit about these
rapping niggas because I fucked with Did she did she
represent more than you like other street dudes? Or was
she known to niggas like using her my brothers It's
on my kids. My brother own everything. I love God.
Don't let me work up tomorrow. I'm lying my brother.
(30:23):
I never heard this lady before. I was when I
was fighting my case. Br I was trying different lawyers
out and these folks one of some sixties and eighties
and shit like this, What kind of case was you
fucking uh agg I had an aggravated salt on a
pistol charge and some shit like that. But I also
was on parole too, So everybody was talking these crazy
numb and my cousin work at a law of her.
(30:44):
So I called my cousin. I called home one day
on the wall phone, and my mama was like, yeah,
your cousin said, it's a lady named miss Willie's who
she worked with. And she a good lady, she a
good lawyer. I'm like, I never heard of her before.
I never heard this lady. So I just tried her.
I went, I went off the faith of uh my cousin,
(31:06):
and I and I and I hired her. And she
I never even heard of. I never heard no, no,
no cases she fought. I never heard of, never heard
of her day in my life. And I just went
off my cousin faate br and hired her and then
unused the gud truth.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
All this shit just rapped.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
Out like that. She turned around and be the head da.
She turned around the one that's she just happened like
a nigga. Damned to think I'm lying, bro, like like
like I said.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
Brother, don't let me wake up tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
If I'm lying like that, Just how my I condemn
to write a book about my life, my brother and
how this shit just how this shit just happened, bro.
And then and and this is that's the understory truth.
So I don't even know her, so I never heard
of her before. So you're saying that niggas wasn't using her.
She wasn't like a high priced lawyer. Motherfuckers was sought
after the lawyer.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
I mean she was kind of hot right now.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
How did you hear her?
Speaker 2 (31:55):
Like thirty forty thousands?
Speaker 1 (31:56):
But that's what I'm saying. I wonder what was she
doing like.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
They said she was a.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
I wanna say she done switched to three different things.
I don't wanna say a judge. It was something else
she was before, then she turned back around, start back
being a lawyer, and then she ran for to be
a da I and she did like three four different things.
But I n I never heard not one case that
she fought me personally in in Forda County. I never
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heard her as a lawyer before period. For real.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
I never heard her.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
And that's why I really was kind of damned scared
to hire her. But I know my cousin wasn't gonna her.
So who is your cousin?
Speaker 2 (32:35):
How she she work at a law firm. My cousin
work at a law.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
Firm, so she kind of knew who that was Yeah,
she kind of knew who she was, so and then
she knew I was looking for like reasonable numbers, like
cause these everybody else was talking crazy some sixties.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
And eighties and crazy shit.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
So she was like, yes, this is a she's a
good lawyer, and she got reasonable she gonna got reasonable numbers.
So I hired her bruther and went off a leaf
of faith and.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
I hired her. And she did a great job. My brother,
she did a great job.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
Bruh. She she got my uh aggravated salt drop basically
got everything dropped, and I kind of I basically played out,
make sure you're in front of the mic too, and
after you had to move without So that's cool. Yeah,
I basically so you had p had a aggravated and
what had I had a aggravated salt position of a firearm.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
And you was on parole and I was on parole.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
But my parole was damn there over where I almost
had like only had like maybe three four months on parole.
I wanna say, So, they ain't even really really fuck
with me on sending me back down the road for
the parole cause my parole was running out. So I
end up them sh and to be honest, bruh. That's
when my eyes started opening up about this political shit,
like these relationships that they have because and this this
(33:45):
video is on the internet too, by the way, too,
she kind of worked to move bro with it was
by off off off her relationship and just off by
having her having a good face card cause they in
the he here and laughing with At first, I'm like, damn,
like y'all in here playing with my life, you being
too friends and friendly and laughing with the judges and
da da da. But it it come to find out
she just had relationships, you feel what I'm saying, And
(34:08):
they f they fucked with offer of her faith and
they whatever.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
She went and talk to these folks.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
They folks dropped my pistol charge and only charge I
mean they dropped my aggravations of only charged me with
a pistol brow and let me go to a.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
Drawer program, a nine month drawer program.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
I had already been fighting the case by a year
or some change type shit, and Bro, they let me
plea out. They go to a drawer a nine month
drawer program. Bro with a gun charge. It's cra let
me hold my baby in court. When I got seen
it's autist, is is on It's on YouTube and shit
like that.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
Let me hold my baby and everything.
Speaker 3 (34:37):
Bruh.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
They're right there, opened up my eyes and showed me
like damn people like that that political shit like by folk,
you're your face card, can get your boy, can go
in there if your lawyer wanted no one who got
good motherfucking relationships with these folks, they can go in
there and work. They move. It don't always just be
back just having a lot of money. It's just relationship, right,
just gotta hire they right, motherfucker right, work they move, Yes,
(35:00):
now they be on it. They I had a lawyer
named Richard McGee that was like that. They were asking
each other, him and the judge talking about his kids
golf for something. I'm like, man, these folks right here
talking about some golf man and we didn't he fight
then I'm standing right next to him, Man, finna take
a plea or something, And they did that. But it's like,
(35:20):
have you ever spoke to Fanny Willis and do you
think she has had any information about thug?
Speaker 5 (35:30):
And why?
Speaker 2 (35:30):
I said before she got a job as the DA, Before.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
She got her job as the DA, I don't think so,
But I don't know what how like why she was
practicing to be why she was a lawyer.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
I don't see why would she Why would she be
trying to How could you do that though?
Speaker 1 (35:51):
How could you be practicing to be a lawyer but
at the same time invested having information on somebody that
you How can you investigate and be a lawyer? It
ain't investigation. See, there's a difference between investigation and intail, right,
So it's not necessarily again, like what me and him
just had that conversation, It ain't that the person he
was called up here was quote unquote investigating. You see
(36:16):
what I'm saying. It's just they have intail that it's
very particular. You see what I'm saying. They can cause
and ruffle some feathers if in the wrong hands. And
so I'm wondering because not only did she represent you,
there's rumblings that she was fucking nut rp Nut.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
But yeah, there was rumblings that she was fucking him.
I don't, I don't, I don't know what about that ship,
Like I know you ain't heard that before. Yeah, I
heard it said that she did it was I mean,
he did it? Was an argument that even came out.
Speaker 1 (36:49):
They was trying to throw my name into mix, trying
to say that me and her was having some funny
style shit going on, like it was an article. Man,
I cannot remember this art. I got the article at
the Crib because they sent it to me when I
was locked up. My lawyer did LAWD. He's like, man,
look at this shit that they got going on with Trump.
But I don't know if it's a husband stent true
she was fucking WITHH or not. And then in my
mind too, what I basically was trying to say is okay,
(37:11):
not investigating, but getting intel on bruh.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
Why you being a lawyer? Like what was your purpose?
Speaker 1 (37:16):
Like when I'm on a path, I know I ain't
finna just be no lawyer. I want to be a
DA then I want to get into politics. Then I
want to fuck around be at a Senate Like there's
a pathway for this shit, right, you see what I'm saying.
And so the same with Kamala Harris. She don't just
pop up as vice president. There's twenty years of moved right.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
I see what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (37:36):
You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
And so being in Georgia.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
Being a black woman in Atlanta, you can easily tell yourself,
all right, I'm a lawyer.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
The next move is what a da? What's after that? Politics?
That's why then she.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
Spread her wings even after thug and try to get
that Trump. Yeah, because it's a political move. Fact. Fact.
See this ain't even about no, this is That's what
I'm saying. She strikes me as a woman that moves
when intent. She's not just some razal daz a lawyer
that's just head that's in the sky representing guys that's
not paying attention, don't know what's going on. But she's
(38:12):
smack dab in the middle of where. You got a
young thug, a rich homeo, a little baby of fucking Luchi,
all these different Gucci mane Walker, Flock, anybody that's just
doing they's just popping with street black men that done
got money.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
And that's the thing, because I can be clean.
Speaker 1 (38:34):
This is why a lot of times I can't move
with my homies because they may tell me they ain't
doing nothing just to make me feel good about it,
but still be kind of dirt and pulled me into something.
So I take her to be someone that moves when intent.
I don't understand how you don't see that, you know,
(38:54):
how you don't see her as someone look at her
moves if she was still a lawyer.
Speaker 4 (38:59):
Cool.
Speaker 1 (39:00):
And it's hard for me because knowing this participation and
you've been next to her, you see what.
Speaker 2 (39:05):
I'm saying, So it's rough for me to battle against
what you're saying.
Speaker 1 (39:09):
But it's like, I think it's a great conversation to have. Yeah,
And it's kind of people have to understand on my
end too, that that was my lawyer. So it's super
weird to me as it is the weird to everybody else.
It's even more weird than me because this was my lawyer.
Now this turned around to be the DA who was
prosecuting my my my folk, my family and my brothers.
Speaker 2 (39:28):
Like, so it's so weird to me, bruh. And it's
like it was.
Speaker 1 (39:31):
It was scary to me at first because I'm like,
what the fuck? Like when I seen this Nigga, I
learned this shit from Instagram. I was in the bed
blowing me one that like scrolling down Instagram nigga and
s boom. It was on some page a blog paid uh.
Jeffrey Wibb and saying motherfucker's name is getting indicted and
DA dad. So I'm like, no way, this can't be real,
like I and I and if in my mind, I'm
like nigga, I scroll up a little more.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
I know my name for to be on here.
Speaker 1 (39:56):
But after I I I I I learned this on once,
I thought it was going on. Because now I'm scared, like,
hey boy, what the fuck going on? Like if they
get because I know they putting folks into this ship
who had who haven't did nothing. A lot of these
folks don't went to prison. Bro, it ain't even been
around none of this ship. So it's like I'm scared almost.
(40:16):
But I started doing kind of I got my lawyer
or another lawyer involved in kind of.
Speaker 2 (40:20):
It was like they can't. That's conflict of interest. She
can't do nothing to you.
Speaker 1 (40:24):
She was just sure your lawyer, she can't come fuck
with me and do nothing because it's a conflict insurry.
You're gonna have to get somebody else to another DA
or something or some shit like that. They come try
to fuck with me, but I haven't even though I
ain't did nothing, but it's like she can't do it.
It's a conflicting interest. Did you take her to be
somebody that likes street thingers though? Did she give off
a flirty vibe? What was she like a.
Speaker 3 (40:48):
Hit that?
Speaker 1 (40:48):
Yeah, she gave man. She she's definitely you gotta think
about that this crossing. So you can't tell me she
don't know who young Thug is? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm
not saying she didn't know who is. And as a
lawyer knowing, I want to be a da in the middle. Ye,
you're not saying not saying that she didn't know who
he was. But in my mind, I'm just trying to
figure out, like, damn, you really have a mission this
(41:10):
whole time, and and and my case had nothing to
do with nothing it. It was not one reason why
thug name or why I sell or anything dealing with
that had to come up.
Speaker 2 (41:21):
Period.
Speaker 1 (41:22):
My case was aggravated salt by myself. No code offended this.
So it was no reason for us to even be
having these them type of conversation about oh you rap
your what's your rap name? Or who you rap with
or who is it? It was no reason for us
to even have them type of conversations at all. So
it's just puzzling into I wonder what all her intel
(41:43):
comes from. Maybe off the Internet and shit, maybe she's
a fan of them dudes, and and she's been looking
at into them guys. Intel come from niggas telling these niggas,
been telling these niggas, been around here talking, these niggas
been around here telling a lot of niggas.
Speaker 2 (41:56):
Probably haven't they they before getting into all be talking.
Speaker 1 (42:02):
Even nobody come to her directly, like she kind of like,
I damn it feel like she kind of in the
streets a little bit because she talks. She don't talk
all the proper lawyer talk. She like she'll get a
little sassy at the mouth and be popping and talking talking,
So I know she kind of gotta be from the
not from the streets, but kind of That's what I'm
telling you, So that that plays into my point is
(42:25):
that she's been involved with kind of like the internet
persona of these guys. She's been following the music and
being instrumental and just that's that's her relationship with them.
And again, if you someone like her, you know, like
maybe I go from this the politics and this is
my route. You know what I'm saying. I truly believe
(42:46):
I truly believe that there's something to that. I don't
think that you know that she's uh because there's no
no real case on Thug. Maybe even waited longer, maybe
even take your time, but the move was made, so
it was like, there's it's not well thought out, man,
it's not it reeks of desperation, like you know what
(43:10):
I'm saying. It's somebody's trying to position themselves or do
something here with this because I'm still having, like you said,
heard nothing that says young.
Speaker 2 (43:18):
Thug is the king slime like they say, nobody like
this is what?
Speaker 4 (43:23):
This is what?
Speaker 1 (43:24):
It's so crazy to me, Like, Bro, y'all wasting all
this time and all the money to keep having all
these witnesses up here, bro, and that no witnesses have
really every witness that y'all had, damn that was not
credible except real all these real investigators or other type
of folks like what's what's my boy name? Miss with
and Atlantic Leo call yeah yeah, okay, other than people
(43:48):
like him, but all these other witnesses and these people
y'all bring from prison and putting them on the stand
and all nothing. There was bond. There was bond hearings.
I don't even think that was trial time, right, Yeah
Fast was here, Yeah Fast. But it's just like everybody
that y'all have put on the understand those damn there.
It's one of them niggas just was saying, you know,
(44:09):
I'm doing chain game, man, I'm ready to get back
the chain game, man, Like this is the type of
ship this like what is relevant to thoub Nothing is relevant,
nothing is time to him. So what is it? What
is y'all trying to y'all just because of these type
of motherfuckers hung around or these people were saying that
there was a part of our rap route, like we
can't that's just like right now, it's people all in Africa, bro,
(44:32):
it's people all around the world. Who was saying they
slim and who's saying they? Wife said, how can we
control that? How can we control because they commit on
top of all that, Like, we can't control these people.
I done talk to Brin still myself as well, But
if if I was, if it was me, i'd have
put it on because Norris said something about Slim long time.
Speaker 2 (44:53):
Ago, the rapper and it's it's documented.
Speaker 1 (44:56):
Because the thing about court, you gotta play the game
had go, and so the game is you better have
a date stamp that we need to see when this
was actually originated from where it came from. Couldn't have
planted it and normally had said something about I'm slime
you know or whatever, and I would have played on
(45:16):
that in the bond hearings, but they didn't. Let's talk
about out of the twenty seven people that were indicted,
you have a relationship with any of them? People? Uh yeah,
niggas like Duke, uh Ghanna, dk slug Roscoe Roscoe my guy, Yeah,
(45:44):
that's my brother. Who else was on the case? I
think Quay Quay A few probably count on both of
my hands, Like, there's no more than light ten on
that I really know for real, the rest of them.
But do you kick it with him? Still? Y'all still
(46:05):
talking shit? I'm talking about before the indictment, Before the indictment.
Only person I was kicking it around like that before
the dytment was and he was like dk uh me
and Duke was talking here and now it's really oh,
I forgot a little slime life and people like that, like,
but uh we we weren't just really k like I
(46:25):
said earlier. We weren't just I had 'em stop really
kicking it real, real hard with But why up, why
stop kicking it with this multi million dollar rap nigga?
And you in the rap business, you try it wa.
It was so much funny shit going on around my brother.
Speaker 2 (46:40):
It was so much.
Speaker 1 (46:41):
Uh, I just didn't feel no, g I'm the type
of nigga bro I want. I want genuine, little bro,
I want genuine. I want shit to be genuine. And
I just felt like it's a lot of motherfucker. Was
only around because slime big now he super big, cause
we ain't have nothing. We were sharing, wearing each other clothes,
nigga sharing a fucking ten piece hot wing you play
for good damn wing seafood on Cleveland.
Speaker 2 (47:01):
These folks went nowhere around.
Speaker 1 (47:03):
So it's just like now I see all these people
coming around training, all they just they just so they
love us so much and they so down and they sold.
It just felt so fake to me, brou And it's
just I'm the type of nigga I'm cut from the
cloth where I come from a family of bosses. I
come from a different type of cloth, and I'm like,
I ain't I don't want to be around that type
of shit my brother, and it just kind of pushed me.
(47:23):
It pushed me away many months. Some people can say
it was pride, cause a lot of mothers be like,
but youre supposed to been here, so you so you
think that thug would allowed you around if you wanted
to be.
Speaker 2 (47:34):
Around overly like this is this is my brother. We
can call this mama.
Speaker 1 (47:37):
Indeed, folks, it's Brian told me out his own mouth
like man thug cried damn to cry real teal, saying
that he wished you'all friendship could have got back cause
he my brother know who his real friends is, right,
want people know these folks loved me. They know like,
how did you get on Cleveland though? You from which
how did y'all hook up?
Speaker 3 (47:58):
You went?
Speaker 2 (47:59):
The one of our homies named Buck Buck.
Speaker 1 (48:02):
One of the homies names Buck Bucky and his name
on the stone and song that's a lot of uh
another thing too, though a lot of motherfub be jow
ain't never heard of you do the if y'all go
listen back from all Rich Gang songs when rich Homie
Corn saynd I'm with my sliin brother with a dude
mondo all the way the stoner slime mondo with it's
like all the like. But buck Buck is one of
the names he said in the in the in the song,
(48:22):
and buck Buck from the west Side. He just a
streek over from me. I'm from Grifford Street, He's from
Jane p butck Buck being my friends and we was
in the elementary school and shit like that. He migrated
to Cleveland. He st he was on Cleveland for years
at that prior time. And uh, he started calling me
over that a kickie, and I started kicking it with him,
and he used to be round thrugs all the time.
Speaker 2 (48:40):
And they they liked it how I was kicking it.
Speaker 1 (48:42):
They like how me and my my my side of
the time the niggas ouse with They like how we
pulled up and kick it and how we were kicking
it in it. We just locked in from them, my brother,
my damn they got stuck on Cleveland, like we just
we locked.
Speaker 2 (48:53):
In from them.
Speaker 1 (48:53):
Yeah, that's cool. How when did y'all meet? What year?
Speaker 4 (48:57):
W Uh?
Speaker 1 (48:58):
This was like two thousand twelve. I been new Thoud
though I've been been knowing from Washington. We went to
school high school.
Speaker 2 (49:04):
How old was your how old was your How old
are you right now? I'm thirty two right now?
Speaker 1 (49:08):
How old was y'all back then?
Speaker 2 (49:10):
And that goat two thoy twelve, I had to be
like nineteen or some shit.
Speaker 1 (49:13):
So he was young. He hadn't had nothing going by then. No,
he had hot, so he had When did he pop off?
Stona made him go be it for real? But you
know he been hot, he been had. I came from
now one. I came from now one, and I came.
He been having mixtating, he's been having a bud.
Speaker 2 (49:35):
Like when he started making the money on Stoneham? What
year was that?
Speaker 1 (49:39):
Stone was two thousand and end of twenty thirteen or fourteen,
somewhere around in there. I want to say, like the
end of two thousand, so right before you met him,
so right before So you met him right before he
did that?
Speaker 2 (49:56):
Yeah, Yeah, I had been knowing him. I stut.
Speaker 1 (49:59):
We was hanging each other real, real heavy, probably like
a year before stone came out or some shit like that,
year or two before it came out.
Speaker 2 (50:05):
Yeah, and that's what made him go.
Speaker 1 (50:07):
All the way and most fucker went crazy. Stoner made
him no global then you had Stoner then right at
that he had Danny Glover. Uh two cup stuff was
a song he had already been been made. That's just
that just was a song that just started getting through
and then mixed with all the other ship. But Stoner
took him out of there. What they took me through
to the next level? Right, what do you say to
the people who say that they don't see like Dolly
(50:32):
and people like that endorse you, like basically like they
you saying, like why they don't see these type of people?
Speaker 2 (50:41):
Like fucking fucking right, because people look for clues.
Speaker 1 (50:47):
Right when we deal with people like a young thug
and he's in a very unfortunate situation. He can't speak
anything he say like people always want him to say
and we're finish talk about gunner, But people always want
him to say what's up with Gunna?
Speaker 5 (51:00):
Right?
Speaker 4 (51:01):
Yo?
Speaker 1 (51:02):
If he say whatever he thinks or if he say anything,
they can now bring that in the court. Is witness
intimidation any kind of shit. He can't say nothing. He
can't say nothing, So people look for the people that
he love and that he's attached to, Like you say,
his father and Dolly and these other people, they wonder
like all they are based on who they endorse. We
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know that's his hearts, that's where he lives at. They
got his best interest. So what do you say to
people who say, we don't see them endorse you. This
ship is so serious with with with me and Brun,
we so tied in it. It don't be no internet
shit with with us. Like we talk to each other
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on the phone like we personally talk. I talked to
his mama. I probably got recent test mission DM and
shit from mama du like in my phone and ship
right now, ain't no probably I do.
Speaker 5 (51:54):
It.
Speaker 1 (51:55):
Don't be on no internet ship, my brother, it don't
be on no. Oh they posting this. So they posting this.
They come in and so they doing it like we
don't feel the need to validate it. Nah me personally,
I don't really care. It's just that's what people want
to see though. That's what they want to see. People
want to see. They just want to know. They looking
to hear from one of the greatest rappers that come
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from the South. They looking at what does he think?
What is his what's going on? Like, you know, he's
been in jail a couple of years, Like, what is
his mindset? Does anybody know? I know right before me
and Roscoe talk, so I have certain information right before
Roscoe went in. You know, he wanted to do an
interview with me and really give it up. But I
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told him, I don't think it was a good idea,
but maybe we should have done it. But for me,
it was like, I don't think it's a good idea, Bro,
not right there anyway to be speaking on you feel right?
But it was so blurry, it was you know, this
was a point of time and we could talk about Gunner.
This was a point of time where kind of felt
like people easing up on what they Gunner done. And
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he reached to me and was like, yo, man, like
I want to I want to say a few things,
you know, for lack of better term, and and I
was like, Bro, I just don't think it's a good idea.
And I don't know next time we'll see bro when
next time he can do that, So maybe maybe see
the street. Shit still is it bothers me?
Speaker 5 (53:22):
Right?
Speaker 2 (53:22):
Cause if I was just a blog nigga, internet nigga,
that was a movie, Yeah, let's do that, yeah fast,
you wouldn't care what a nigga.
Speaker 1 (53:29):
Come on, MoU Yeah, you see what I'm saying. But
I was like, bro, you you're moving around right now.
You know what I'm saying, that they own you. I
don't really want them to drag me into it that,
you know what I'm saying all of that way, Yeah,
where the fuck he at? Kick my ship in where
they do at, you know, and all of that.
Speaker 4 (53:46):
So, but.
Speaker 1 (53:50):
What do you think First you came out and said
gunn Or was a rat, and then you retracted your statement.
To be honest, my brother, I feel like, uh, first
and foremost, and I I don't I don't say it's
a few times. It's no levels to to ret and
and and snitching and telling or however you wanna put it.
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I just feel like, if I I that's something I
could've told pull him to the side and told him
personally how it felt like damn bruh, Like because technically, okay, yeah,
you took a plea basically, which was working in the
DA favor. Nobody shoulda took a plea right there in
the gap, not right before trial. I mean, motherfuckers supposed
to know that. But a lot of these niggas ain't
real screeting it. A lot of these niggas never really
been through shit or been around mother folks who've been
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through shit, so they don't really know how this shit go.
But you don't supposed to take a a plea right
before trial because you working in the DA favor. And
my d our defense is that we are labeled we
a record label, we not a game. And by you
taking a police saying it it's a game, and you
my top artist, you my biggest artist. By you saying
(54:53):
that this a game, it's almost it's it's ain't no almost,
it's fucking my defense up. Now I have to switch
my defense up as a my legal team had to
switch they defense up because I'm pushing it saying that
this is a label, which it which it is, and
you my main artist.
Speaker 2 (55:08):
And you took a police saying it this a game.
So I I just feel like he folded.
Speaker 1 (55:15):
He didn't really cause these niggas out here who were
doing worse shit than him, These niggas out here who
really ratting You got niggas who really telling him, who
really going to I'm going on the stand saying boyshit,
and who really done have interviews with the police saying bullshit.
I just feel like he haven't done nothing that bad.
For me to just full fledge get on the internet
because I did. He he really didn't know nothing. He didn't.
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But at the same time, I don't. I shouldn't have
to hold your hand, my brother. You knew what type
of caliber people he was around. You knew what you
signed up for, right, so I shouldn't have to hold
your hand.
Speaker 2 (55:44):
But what I'm saying is all he coulda done was.
Speaker 1 (55:48):
Rejected whatever plea that was, took that plea to his lawyer,
that plea to the judge, and asked for a bond.
M Yeah, because if my signature can give me out today,
at least I deserve a bond. I don't have no
whole bunch of charges. I ain't done a lot exactly.
And if he would have just held on, I think
that now he's living with regret about that.
Speaker 2 (56:07):
He's overly living with regret.
Speaker 1 (56:10):
Shot up the turbo. That's my guy, Mark shut out,
money Booker money Moore. Like I always said, Bro, he
got a good group of guys around him. Bro. They
always been real and they always been genuine niggas. Bro,
and I sat back and thought about all that too, like, damn,
broal them boys ain't never did that flow with me, bro. Yeah,
but I even even them for a second. You know,
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I don't know that relationship now, but I felt like
even them for a second. Kind of some I'm not Booker,
but a couple of the other guys that he was
known to be around. It's kind of like, Damn, that
was fucked up. What just happened? They inched away from him, Yeah,
they inched away from him like damn, Bro like and
I know he feel that you did, but it's no,
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it ain't. You know, thuggis man, that shit fucked up man,
It is my brother. It's a up situation because at
the end of the day, nigga for you'll fight for
their life. Yeah, this is a RECNNA attach with with
murders and shit your shitty serious Yeah and so and
a nigga lied on you and through your name in
the mix and got you fight for your life.
Speaker 2 (57:12):
So it's a serious situation.
Speaker 1 (57:14):
And just thinking about Thug. When Thug get out, a
whole bunch of niggas want him to forgive them. Ah,
nigga forgive you, But I feel like a nigga can't
nowhere near fuck with y'all niggas ever again. Niggas don't
hate you niggas. N niggas don't got no ill. This
is just me speaking from my thought process and me
damn the feeling how my I damnar feel my brother
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painting a little bit and not know him for real.
Speaker 2 (57:37):
So it's like I I don't see how he.
Speaker 1 (57:39):
Gonna come home, and hey man, I forget y'all niggas
like nigga ain't own that with y'all, but I cannot
never fuck with y'all type niggas ever again.
Speaker 2 (57:48):
It ain't gonna be No.
Speaker 1 (57:49):
That's a deep cut they putting him through. Boy, it's
a deeplashing now, yeah, bro. And that was my whole
thing about speaking up, speaking out about Woodie, cause I'm
like and saying talking about a niggas like little bankhead
who do the radio station shit and a land him
like you think thug gonna come home and y'all don't
realize he fight for his life, right, y'all just doing
job titles and they they they doing it for their
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job tight and they views and they lights and they
little in they little paper. But when he come home
and and and he know he gonna be bigger than
ever you think he gonna come on some of your
nigga platform and f and fuck with y'all some of
y'all nigga game. Nah brouh, cause the nigga gonna sit
back and see bru y'all was just fucking with niggas
and shit got niggas on y'all platform. Who fucking damn
nigg finish coulda took my You just took me worth
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for my kids, my family, my job won't spending niggas
of dollars And y'all got these type niggas like little
Who on y'all platform. You think brother gonna come back
around and fuck with you these type of niggas. Man,
But so when you took when you when you went
public and took that back that you felt like he
was a rat? Yeah? What did he say?
Speaker 2 (58:53):
What gonna said?
Speaker 1 (58:55):
Did he say something? To be honest, my brother, I
been had DM him when I just got I just
got in April or some shit like that from this
little shit that just was going on.
Speaker 2 (59:05):
I had just got out, So it was already on
my mind in my heart.
Speaker 5 (59:08):
Bro.
Speaker 1 (59:09):
I Why why was it on your mind?
Speaker 2 (59:12):
Because?
Speaker 1 (59:12):
Uh, if you love thug like you say, yo, man,
that's my brother, you fight for his life. This a
real situation.
Speaker 2 (59:19):
It's it's the internet shit with me.
Speaker 1 (59:21):
Mmm. I feel like I'm too much of a real
nigga man, brother, Like I could have met a nigga
and told this nigga, don't give me Damn, I'm telling.
Speaker 2 (59:26):
Him I'm a rant or whatever. Have I felt?
Speaker 1 (59:29):
Right? I supposed to have been mad because I know
him personally. I don't know little I know niggas like that. So,
but you know what I think with Gunn or two,
some of the real niggas don't have emotional intelligence enough,
and they're reacting because they're seeing. They're seeing people embrace it, right,
So when they see like Gunn, Damn, nigga catch back
(59:51):
on fires like but wait, what about Thug? Y'all y'all
don't forgot about Thug? And that's why certain real niggas
who usually don't do that kind of shit start to
say certain ship like oh hey, you know, and I
you know, I think Gunna is living with regret. I
think he's dealing with his own battle with that. He
is my brother, you know. But I wonder in particular
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for you. You love Thug on one end, but you
forgive Gunner without speaking the thug or knowing the ramifications
of what they're done to Doug. When I'm not gonna
say I forgive them, but in my mind, from my
for what I was trying to do or just let
it be known. Hey, I could have went and told
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you by myself respect that I respect that, and then
on top of that my brother something else that kind
of just put put some on my heart. When I
seen Big Jeff man that they concert smiling and and laughing.
You got to think about it. I really know these people, bro.
I really came from the from the bottom with these people.
So it's like it just did something to my heart,
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Like damn, man, Like this ship don't supposed to be
like this, bro, Like we're supposed to be You're right,
but it's like it's fucked up, and I fucked I
funk with anybody. I don't got no dog in the fight, right,
you know for sure, But you know I do my
job as a as a as a medium person. But
at the end of the day, this is a situation
(01:01:14):
in I mean, how Big Jeff, let's talk about that.
How is his integration with Gunna and dude, is that
clear with young Doug or it is that out of
you know what I'm saying, like, I don't know. I
think that got a lot of people to forgive when
he get out, Man, they ain't thinking about the the
trump of this nigga hard going through hell.
Speaker 2 (01:01:34):
Man, they the snatch me out of this, took me
through that. Now when I get out, I.
Speaker 1 (01:01:37):
Gotta forgive you for fucking with bruh because you needed
the money. I gotta forgive you for saying that because
you really slick just wanted to go on tour with such.
I gotta forgive a bunch of y'all dudes like y'all
want me to. He may not because his life is
really on the line.
Speaker 3 (01:01:51):
Bro.
Speaker 1 (01:01:52):
It's rough for me, Bro, because it's like Big Jeff,
his father is some is someone that has been brought
up in the trial as well. I think I don't
I can't. Yeah, didn't Big Jeff went up to the trial?
Didn't somebody google that, right, Cord? Yeah, Big Jeff had
to go. Big Jeff.
Speaker 2 (01:02:10):
I don't think he had never been on stand.
Speaker 1 (01:02:12):
I don't think. I don't think he had to testify.
I think he had to come up. I think he
may have or was it. Somebody father came up. May
not have been him, Let's look it up real Big
Jeff might he might have. He might have testified. Yeah,
he might have, but I I can't really remember. Do
you think do you think he's speaking for speaking with
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thug or clearing stuff with thug?
Speaker 2 (01:02:36):
How was his his and thug relationship before.
Speaker 5 (01:02:43):
That was?
Speaker 1 (01:02:44):
That was not far? Yeah? Okay, okay, that's I knew
somebody father Okay.
Speaker 5 (01:02:54):
But.
Speaker 2 (01:02:57):
Yeah, I feel like he he he talking to Thug,
but I don't.
Speaker 1 (01:03:00):
I don't know if he I is they having these
type of conversations like hey, you go do this, or
that's cool to do that. Big Jeff is Big Jeff.
They start daddy, so I be be gonna do th
he been doing this since we being a little like
he gonna do what the fuck we want he wanna do,
like he ain't go get a damn it.
Speaker 2 (01:03:14):
We don't fuck with these type of people.
Speaker 1 (01:03:16):
Or Big Jeff is just being Big Jeff man and
he and he probably looking at it like on some
shit like cause he s he seen us grow and
he probably on shit like man, y'all boys gonna need
to be yuh uh. Feeling some type of way about
going on y'all boys on. I don't know how he thinking,
but it it it got to be on some shit
like he he don't kind of let his heart not
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really get too cold with shouty because he had his concerts.
He he laughing and he vibing. He having a good time.
And I wanna say he talking on one of the
songs back today. I wanna say this big Jeff talking,
but this for real, I think so when he was like, yo,
come home man, or oh these need some shit, I
I think that was Big Jeff talking. But it just
it just brung back memories though Bruh, like from how
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we started Bruh and it and how it just all
love it.
Speaker 2 (01:04:01):
It just made me feel like, damn, I ain't have
to go bash them on the internet. I could have
pulled him to the side because when we see, he
never did that wrong to me, bro, he never didn't
that flaw. But if you love thug, he ain't done
nothing to dollar it.
Speaker 1 (01:04:13):
He ain't done nothing. No, even when we look at
what baby and Gunna situation is. You know what I'm saying,
When they act like that, there's whatever shots that's being
thrown on songs but we know Baby got thug best
interest at hard for sure.
Speaker 2 (01:04:26):
That ain't even to be debated. For sure, you dig
and I believe.
Speaker 1 (01:04:31):
Him to be in communication with someone that's letting him
know what way to go. But he too played or
really he ain't really doing all that. But certain times
I pop power let it be known for slime, slim.
I know slime, mad, I know slime, and just keep
it moving for sure.
Speaker 5 (01:04:47):
But it's like.
Speaker 1 (01:04:50):
If people love Thug, how they post, how they say
they love Thug, it's just fucked. Can't with certain niggas.
So she as well, and I ain't gone to right
now he in that spot into him and Thug until
they clarify that, you know what I'm saying. You know,
you know I got really cute now. Even even little
(01:05:10):
Baby reached out to me after I posted that. For real,
he like like Bro, like damn this what you're saying,
Like damn Bro, Like we love Bro, like we ain't
nothing out the hood, you know what I'm saying. He
didn't say that now, I'm not putting words in the mouth,
but I spoke with him after I posted. I spoke
with a little baby like after that, like me and
him chopped up a little bit, and my brother was
basically like he kind of felt on type of way
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to Roscoe do what he wanted to do. And the
internet don't even know this. This is my first time
really saying it.
Speaker 2 (01:05:41):
For sure.
Speaker 1 (01:05:41):
If I would have let Roscoe do what he wanted
to do, things that look a little different, you know
what I mean from a street perspect because he wanted
to really come in and add all out and add
out like hey man, such and such. But yeah, I know, man,
I mean, cause you gotta think, ain't nobody speaking for thug?
Speaker 4 (01:05:58):
They not?
Speaker 1 (01:05:59):
You know, damn so like it's like, damn bruh. You know,
did Gunna reach out to you? What did he say? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (01:06:10):
We talked.
Speaker 1 (01:06:11):
We we talked when I when I when I got
out of jail. This I don't even think I finished
saying that earlier, but we talked when I got out
of jail this last little time, and uh, basically we
were like on some shit like just I I I
kind of let him know where I was coming from,
and he hit me back with the yeah, you know,
I forgive you, bro, but I N I I can't
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forget it. You feel what I'm saying like I almost
shit like it. I hurt him, like I heard his
feelings type of shit, Like, damn, Bro, you hurt me.
Speaker 2 (01:06:38):
Bro, I ain't being in but real to you. You
got on the internet and bashed me.
Speaker 1 (01:06:41):
Out like that. But right, but I, like I said,
I think he living with regret. He is my brother.
That shit fucking with him, bro. Right when that shit
first happened, Bruh motherfuckers was blowing my phone up so bad,
trying to get intel for me of how Bruh feel
from from a lot. I ain't gonna put the boy's
name out that lot, but a lot of niggas who
just took them please was calling me because they know
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I was talking to Brian and I'm talking like I'm
hands in with it.
Speaker 2 (01:07:07):
So these boys calling my phone?
Speaker 1 (01:07:08):
What what? What?
Speaker 5 (01:07:09):
What?
Speaker 3 (01:07:09):
What?
Speaker 1 (01:07:10):
How sline feel about what I did? Or what you
think bro feel about what I did and what Brian's
saying about didn't let me know? Right then, I said, Oh,
y'all boys panicking, y'all know y'alln' supposed to pull that stuff.
Speaker 2 (01:07:21):
Y'all know y'all supposed to do that.
Speaker 1 (01:07:23):
Want to get back home? Man. Niggas wanted to get
back home them drugs. See, man, when you you gotta
shake him drugs when you first get in that jail, man,
that ship is treacherous.
Speaker 3 (01:07:33):
Man.
Speaker 1 (01:07:34):
Just when you was doing, boy, you was out here
doing them whips, and they just snatched a nigga out
of the ship. Pair toe on your body, bro Man.
Niggas wanted out of that ship. Bro Thes want to
get back out to these holes they bas and clothes
and niggas you want to get especially coming from that
caliber type of lifestyle exactly. He just wanted to get
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back out to that ship.
Speaker 4 (01:07:55):
Man.
Speaker 1 (01:07:55):
That's a lot of reason why I kind of started
speaking upcause I'm like that, that's all y'all. Niggas did
it fory'all. Niggas really wanted to get out so bad.
I was on some air man for they self type
type shit. But so do you think Woody won't smoke
with you about what you been saying? He probably do,
But I don't want no smoke with him, cause guess what,
my boy, you is the motherfucking the biggest rat I know.
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I call niggas like you possums cause you're the biggest
rat I know, and you a type of nigga. You
are sending a nigga jail after young Dial. I'm scared
of you, my boy. I don't want no smoke wishing.
I'm on the internet trolling. You getting your money off
of trolling, Charge White and all the niggas getting money
off trolling, talking shit on the internet. Hey, let me
get my chicken. I'm talking shit. I don't want no
smoke with you, my wife. Yeah, I can't get no.
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You think he'll crysh out probably whil but do he
He better know though my body the bush, they'd know.
Speaker 2 (01:08:50):
Na going on, stay on the internet and keep this shit.
Speaker 1 (01:08:53):
God damn you feel saying yeah, can you come anywhere
in my vicinity? I'm pretending myself. I can't feeling no nigga,
do nothing to me. You if you see him walk in,
you gonna think it? What you what you what you're thinking?
If you wanna take your temperature like I ain't finn
proach on, no goofy shit or grasship. I ain't for
the panic that I'm gona take your temperature like see
what he on watching him? Or you're walking up on him. No,
(01:09:13):
I ain't said, I ain't gonna walk you watching watching
him that he approach me, it's different.
Speaker 2 (01:09:18):
I'm on defense.
Speaker 1 (01:09:19):
What if he hits you with that mug, he'd be
hitting You know that nigga got a little He got
his whole little ship that he be. He got a
little mean He do all his mean faces. He can mug,
he do all that long as he don't got damn
reached for his nothing. Don't walk up playing crazy like
you want to fight. He playing crazy though, me dropping
his location and they I said he liked to play crazy.
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That see niggas like that trick you out the street. Yeah,
you feel you're treating me, And right now it ain't
the time.
Speaker 2 (01:09:47):
Even if you know what I'm saying, it ain't the time.
Speaker 1 (01:09:50):
You know you're not gonna treat me out of course,
I'm on his I'm gonna keep exposing you.
Speaker 2 (01:09:55):
Nigga.
Speaker 1 (01:09:56):
I'm always supposed to fake. Sh ain't even got to
be him, It can be whoever. I was like, if
I see some some some funny style shit going on,
some face shit or some flaw shit, I'm gonna open
my mouth and exposed something. A lot of motherfuckers be like,
why you gotta do it on the internet, because I
don't know this nigga. I don't know this, nigga. I
can't call this nigga phone Like you feel what I'm saying, Like,
I can't. That's my only way of got Damn. He
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on the internet, Like, that's how it's gonna get out.
That's how the world lived there. So here ye, I'm
gonna get on the internet to say something. What do
you think about him garnering so much fame after like,
because at first it felt like he was embarrassed. The
first couple of times he got up there, it felt
like he didn't he was embarrassed.
Speaker 2 (01:10:32):
Then all of a sudden he realized.
Speaker 1 (01:10:34):
Man, they fucking with me. Yeah, he picked his head up, nigga.
They paying for shit, paying for interview. He's saying. Now
he come in with a suit on, suit and they
put it. I'm saying, oh nah, what do you feel
about him being piped up? It turned up that was
my whole point of speaking out, because I would It
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threw me all the way off brough seeing that shit.
Speaker 2 (01:10:56):
Brocause I'm like, bro, why is the world. What's going
on with the world in this in my city?
Speaker 1 (01:11:01):
Why are the fake niggas getting in the door, Why
are the fake niggas getting getting like, why all this
weird shit going on? Bruh, And it's like y'all glorifying
a nigga, y'all seeing, y'all fuck with thub. Back to
what you was saying too, y'all seeing y'all little thug,
and y'all fuck with thug. But y'all fucking with a
nigga and glorifying a nigga who started this whole fucking rico.
Speaker 2 (01:11:17):
And lied on this man and recently just told y'all
he lied on this man.
Speaker 1 (01:11:22):
But I feel like he he he burn it out
now he's getting to the end of the ropes with him,
because it it's only so much cap shit you can
do when you're a fake nigga and you got some
mystery in your history and you got floshit on your
name and your face card is fucked up.
Speaker 2 (01:11:35):
It's only so much you could do.
Speaker 1 (01:11:36):
Okay, the end of that shit is cool to twenty
verses one and all that, But how many mo how
long that shit gonna go? How many twenty versus one
you gonna keep doing? How many of your music is
ASD so your music ain't gonna keep you relevant. It's
like how how how far you think you finna go,
my wy with this shit. You just got your little
couple of months of fame. But real niggas starting to
realize nowhing folks who didn't know you got people who
really didn't know, Like a fe man reached out to me,
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who did a twenty versus one with him, and like
I honestly did not know he told on nobody. She
thought he got famous off being retarded, understand like saying
slow shit and acting retard it like she didn't know
that this nigga was understanding him. But that's what That's
what Wooded didn't understand, And that's what a lot of
us don't understand, is that the masses don't really understand
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the court process. They don't understand streets ship. They really
don't understand don't. So all they know is Thugg is
on trial for life and Woody up there slick looking
like he keeping it real fact, it looked like he's
spinning them and saying bullshit. They don't know that it's
nine hours here, that he don't win in eight hours here,
four hours here, And that's what's breaking niggas hards that's
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really tagged to it because it seemed like he was
really plugged in with them.
Speaker 2 (01:12:46):
It seemed like that he was around it for a
brief a brief period of time.
Speaker 1 (01:12:50):
You feel what I'm saying, Because he wasn't around us
when we first just like I said, kind of came
up with the movement, he wasn't around. I wish I
could ask, like fourteen, Yeah, I wish I could ask
stug off the Windles where he came from? How did
he get that?
Speaker 2 (01:13:08):
I ain't gonna lie, my brother, I damnly be want
to ask that nigga.
Speaker 1 (01:13:11):
Not even just him, all twenty seven of them niggas,
how you get interested? And respectfully, I don't know none
of them nigga except Roscoe, and I know for a
fact Dolly and Little Baby got due bit centrast, said
shut out, said shout out hawk. You dig Dad wore
all of them, them my people, So I know they
got that due bit interest. Though against all lodge, this
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shit could blow up. They fucking with slime. So when
they come out and say, yo, man, that ain't right,
I gotta think that they've been reported to some kind
of way. They got intel, bro, They heartbeat, they heart
bleeding with that nigga, man, cause break going through a motherfucker.
But I would ask the how did he get introduced
to all twenty seven of them niggas, Like how you
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get interested in him? What about him? What about him?
Just to know life? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (01:14:01):
Like like like what like where a nigga come from?
Speaker 5 (01:14:03):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (01:14:04):
Yeah, but you you don't know what water it came from. Yeah,
I don't even know how he got Maybe maybe through
niggas like yak. Maybe he probably kind of got in
through niggas like yack, But I don't know who initially
even brought this nigga around, Like who initially opened up
them doors man, because it.
Speaker 2 (01:14:20):
Went through up like thug.
Speaker 1 (01:14:21):
Don't really like he had no reason to be bringing
you around and open up his open arms for you
to come, like you had to kind of wiggle in
through some other niggas and niggas to use the crashout
though points too, to try to prove a point. Yeah,
like I got niggas around here that you say something
by me, you done been sprung on. They're just coming in.
I knocked that nigga out, such and such man around
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there talking stupid, they knowing that in my mind, that's
gonna get him some just gonna put them at a level.
Speaker 2 (01:14:51):
And a lot of niggas like that was around, bro.
Speaker 1 (01:14:53):
That's why I'm like I I back stage, bro, because
I seen that type of yes man or crash shot
goofy shit, and I just didn't get cut from that
type of cloth.
Speaker 2 (01:15:03):
So you tell me, I want them type of niggas
around me. So you telling me that you you left
a million dollar lifestyle. Look where I'm at now, My
brother in no shade free my brother.
Speaker 1 (01:15:13):
I love him to death. I'm not even throwing no
just this coming from a genu heart. I'm not even
being funding. But look where I'm at. I'm gonna right,
I'm right here talking to you.
Speaker 3 (01:15:21):
Right.
Speaker 2 (01:15:22):
I coulda been.
Speaker 1 (01:15:22):
I coulda been every You coulda been seeing me every
day when they go to court with them suits and shit,
all my brother doing the same thing. But you woulda
took a pleak if they came. Nah. I I really wouldn't, brother,
cause I know how they sisters shit set up, and
I know what I signed up for. I ain't finna
leave my brother and nothing like that. I'm not finna
leave my brother to Femily and fight for that shit
by itself because I know Hey, bruh, we we we
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we we started this shit together with my brother. I
know what I signed up for, not saying we did
nothing wrong, not saying we sitting here from to go down,
and that it's just hey man, I'm finna rock this
shit out with you.
Speaker 2 (01:15:54):
Let's do it.
Speaker 1 (01:15:54):
I know we ain't dead. Now, we gonna get out
this motherfucker soon.
Speaker 2 (01:15:57):
I ain't taking no plea.
Speaker 1 (01:15:58):
Fuck it, Let's rock out cause it it ain't hipping
us by me taking taking the plea, I'm throwing you
under the bus. Basically, I'm throwing my brother under the
bus by me taking a plea. And that's that's a
d A favorite. Please, that's working in DA favor the
question that they asked me, unless I would have got
it to a point where hey, y'all gonna have to
take some of this shit out, that's the thing. That's
why shit right.
Speaker 2 (01:16:20):
And that's why I feel like he is battling with
his own trauma.
Speaker 1 (01:16:25):
Because if I spend millions on my lawyer and he
won't even fight back for me, I don't want to
say out that I take a plea. I don't want
to have to say that why I got it ain't
nobody else saying nothing. Why the fuck they got me
saying something exactly? He thinking that either in his mind
he thinking everybody saying that in they plea, Nah, that
ain't a thing. But his lawyer supposed to been front
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line if he's being paid for that, But his lawyer
just came to the internet and said it's an hour
for plea. He won't be testifying. He tried to fight
against it. But you should have got them to take
them stay pavements out of the plea. Yeah, then why
does y'all go public publicly? Why is the news people?
Why has y'all got this ship on the news saying
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him saying this? Why y'all didn't putt nobody else on
the news saying this shit? And that's what kind of
triggered my brain too and made me start saying, because
I seen this ship myself, I didn't see nobody else. Paperworker,
they please, I'm hearing him myself say yes to these questions.
Speaker 2 (01:17:26):
Yes, nobody else said that though it had been came
out and they pleased means a lot of the police.
Speaker 1 (01:17:31):
Was it paperwork if they said that, if they answered
no question, so you're saying the paperwork the question.
Speaker 2 (01:17:38):
Damn that everybody who.
Speaker 1 (01:17:39):
Took a plee had the same type of plea my brother,
some of them, Yes they did, Brother, it just wasn't
on record. Damn. It just wasn't on record and on video.
How they had Gunner. So that's why Gunner Ship kind
of everybody kind of was pushing it towards Gunner like
that because we hear him. We hear and see this
nigga saying yesterday sit nah. Not only that it was
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the friendship, it was we saw Thug changed his life
for string him. Men. For sure. That's what hurt. That's
the that's the most hurt. It that that's what hurt
the most, cause it's like, damn, bruh, Nigga could have
just nigga and the nigga don't have to have these
type niggas around, But Nigga Nigga brought niggas around and
turned niggas up. I say that all the time niggas
came around and turned niggas up and niggas went nowhere around.
We were fucked up, like these niggas went I. I
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I feel like he a lot of niggas came around,
not even saying saying gone just a lot of niggas
period though, just came around Bruh and sucked the sauce
up Bruh and and and ran off. They reaped the
benefits from some shit like we They just like God
damn w we built the house from ground up for
another nigga who didn't got damn helped put a goddamn
plant the grass or do nothing to come in this
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motherfucker and and and live in the crib like type
shit like a nigga didn't do nothing, Like a lot
of these niggas just came around Bruh and went around
for nothing and started reaping benefits off some shit that we.
This shit took blood, sweat, tell all type of shit.
And you let certain niggas come around and just eat
it up and then put in. And then when I
say word that means like showing your lords is showing
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your respect to this ship and showing you what can
you do and what can you bring it to the table.
Speaker 2 (01:19:10):
And I don't know, oh we out here doing no
gangs and ship, just.
Speaker 1 (01:19:13):
What can you bring to the table. And you a
lot of niggas just came around, didn't show signs of
nothing they can bring to the table. It just came around, bro,
and they was reaping benefits from me. My research people
said that, Oh shit, fuck