How No Jumper & Wack 100 Took Down Big U & Bricc Baby! 😳🔥 ‘Implied, Not Requested’ (Part 1)

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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so much we need to talk about, you know, from
the Big U indictment to the no jumping involvement, to
Souce Walker to Yellow Beezy, I mean we have so

(01:07):
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Hopefully you guys are here for the ride and enjoy
the conversation. I'm gonna try to take us deep down
through there in which we got to explain some of
the things that people still haven't hit on. So that's

(01:28):
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Bit more involved as it pertains to pushing this stuff forward.
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(03:00):
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of us do that. Every one of us that have
a community do that, and I have to direct traffic
in that way. And so there's just a few house

(03:48):
keeping things that we're going over today. Again, Man, we
got a packed show for you guys today. So the
first topic we're gonna get into today is big U.
Brick Baby and a number of other Rolling sixty crips
were arrested involved in a Rico case. The FED swooped in,

(04:11):
and their legend a bunch of different crimes and criminal activity.
They effectively are using what big U has promoted against him,
and he has been on record trying to defend his
checking in thing for quite some time. For people who
do not know, big U is a figure out on

(04:32):
the West Coast that was instrumental and Nipsey Hustle used
to be cool with Whack one hundred him and Whack
one hundred. That's been going back and forth for the
last three or four years.

Speaker 1 (04:41):
I think the timing of all this is just paramount.

Speaker 2 (04:44):
We definitely, as we get later in the conversation, gonna
draw some attention to some of the.

Speaker 1 (04:50):
Parallels of the fall out.

Speaker 2 (04:52):
How long you know, Whack one hundred and others have
been campaigning against Big U and Big you just remain quiet.
I never really understand the thinking process. Staying quiet doesn't win.
I keep telling the dudes that not when dudes got
microphones and audiences, you can't stay quiet and you really
can't talk. So you really gotta know exactly how to

(05:12):
handle it, and you got to be a cerebral thinker.
And I think that's where a lot of people are
falling short when they get into content, because you're not
putting none of these dudes on defense. See, the first
thing you gotta do when you deal with these content
niggas is put them on defense. And this is high
level game. I'm giving y'all as long as they're on
offense and they can control the narrative and they don't

(05:34):
have to respond to nothing, and they can just willingness.

Speaker 1 (05:37):
That's why I know they can't.

Speaker 2 (05:38):
None of them fuck with me if I really being
me in I don't care who you go get, I
don't care how long they been doing it, I don't
care what their job titles say, and I don't give
a fuck back in them if I being in and
we gotta do this thing that we do, this competitive
thing that we do behind these microphones, I feel like
none of them can see me. I'm a problem solver

(05:59):
and I'm a nick in real life. This ain't the
fake shit like I'm really him. So I'm knowing they
can't out thank me. And even if they have the
same IQ or even how you IQ did me, I
understand technique. It's like someone being stronger than you, but
you know jiu jitsu, his muscles are obsolete. They mean

(06:23):
nothing in this encounter, right, So again when we talk
about this, we got to keep all of that in
its proper perspective.

Speaker 1 (06:31):
This is a very multi layer conversation with.

Speaker 2 (06:34):
Big U No Jump or the Rico Brick Baby Whack
one hundred academics, Adam twenty two, trap Lord Ross Vlad
like this bro, this eCos is out of control.

Speaker 1 (06:45):
Now.

Speaker 2 (06:47):
They didn't hear me when I was saying, yo, y'all
had the opportunity to put me at the top of
the list. Y'all had the opportunity to put me in
position if they would have funneled everybody to me in
the same way that they do Plack boy Max and
all these little nicks that really can't help them when
it really comes down to what narratives is affecting y'all.

Speaker 1 (07:10):
Business, y'all playing.

Speaker 2 (07:12):
And here's the thing about it, Just because I'm a
good nigga, just because I'm a good nigga, I'm fighting
a fight that really ain't mine. And I'm noticing that.
And at some point I'm gonna stop fighting the fight.

Speaker 1 (07:26):
It ain't no. You don't get no points for keeping
it real. The real nig left out looked over.

Speaker 2 (07:32):
Then they the least of those there standing out there
and try to defend the real perspective and the real shit.

Speaker 1 (07:38):
Man, they ain't gonna Hey, listen, you don't get nothing.

Speaker 2 (07:41):
So at some point, because I'm telling it enough to
operate on either side, So at some point I'm gonna
turn off the fact that every time I see nigga
attacking people and doing sucker shit, I try to put
game next to it. At some point I'm gonna cut
that off and I'm gonna just start having fun like
everybody else. I'm gonna be woo out, I'm gonna be tired,

(08:03):
I'm gonna be wo wow. You know, is exhausting you
gotta keep saying, hey, y'all, don't do that.

Speaker 1 (08:11):
He pay attention, y'all.

Speaker 2 (08:12):
Hey, y'all ain't paying attention, Yo, I got money.

Speaker 1 (08:16):
This is only for the love of the game, homie.

Speaker 2 (08:20):
Right the fact that I even show certain respect and
give them certain grace when I know they being suckers.

Speaker 1 (08:27):
It's only out of the love of the game, homie.

Speaker 2 (08:32):
It's impossible to trick me out of my spot because
I'm not emotionally triggered. You niggas can't rage bait me.
You can't pay me to have me nowhere that I
don't want to be. I ain't looking for no cloud.
I ain't staying up all night for no albums to
come out.

Speaker 3 (08:47):
Like.

Speaker 2 (08:47):
I'm just trying to give game, build infrastructure and pass
millions down. And if you ain't on that, you ain't
gonna be on this side. Respectfully, I respect it. I
know Nick want to go play the game and and
and sit in front of kids all day, and when
they go broke, they gonna look up and wonder why
the media NIS got more money than them, Because we've

(09:07):
been sitting around building and y'all been bullshitting the same
stream as Nias sitting next to gonna outrun a lot
of y'all, outlast a lot of y'all because they're actually building.
I've yet to see a rapper do what a cold stream.
I've yet to see a rapper even past that audience
to their friends, to their family, to their children. If

(09:32):
you with these streamer ni mae cos and they do
a cod stream with your son, flood some of their
mother subscriptions over there to my son, Flood some of
that that audience over there to him, teach him how
what camera to use, what button to use, how you
do the sound to fix like I'm pulling up like
that fuck kicking it with you, nigga. I'm building them

(09:53):
for structure. And then my son could teach his cousins
and then we could take my son, drop him off
in the gain, or bring all my mother and little
nephews and nieces from the ghetto out to the mansion
and they start right. We done got a whole bunch
of streamers out of the right. Fatis the game, homie,

(10:13):
Learn the game. All let chasing kids around being on streams.
I'll be looking, and I like the streams cause my
children watch them.

Speaker 1 (10:21):
Sometimes I'll be looking like, let's see what they doing.

Speaker 2 (10:23):
If you notice now little Placboy Max, and I got
respect for Plackboy Manx. He moving around like if you
ask me, like for everybody, I'm here for business and
I respect that.

Speaker 1 (10:37):
I respect that.

Speaker 2 (10:40):
If you notice Plackboy Max running around putting the albums
together and shit on y'all nigga.

Speaker 1 (10:44):
So he noticed that Casaneck got what y'all got.

Speaker 2 (10:47):
What he got got successful, but he didn't get a product.
These nigga getting smarter and smarter on y'all stupid ass
rap nigga. The nig got y'all pulling up now creating
a DJ Kelly type album form that they gonna fuck
around and put out. But if you notice rappers are
pushing back, Kevin Gates was the first one. I'm gonna

(11:08):
get a little nigga farm. Ain't gonna sit in here
and get a nig whole song. He gonna feature on it.
He gonna redo his verse later on, like he putting
together a real album. And I respect the business acumen.
I got a lot of respect for whoever his team
is and how they think it. But the rapper, on
the other hand, when you come to the stream, what
happens for you for your business. What are you leaving

(11:29):
the stream with? All right, let's look at black Boy Max.
He's leaving the stream with what a song? A cold sign?
Culture equity? What are you leaving the stream with?

Speaker 1 (11:38):
Nothing?

Speaker 2 (11:38):
Not even clips that are gonna withstand the next week
or so.

Speaker 1 (11:43):
It's a bunch of funny shit.

Speaker 2 (11:47):
I've watched the record labels try to maneuver and move
rap nigg away from podcasts because information was coming out
of podcast It was sitting down and figuring out deals.
Kanye weston sit Down and changed the game, go to
breakfast club. Jay Z had two or three interviews and

(12:07):
literally changed the trajectory of young men's thinking.

Speaker 1 (12:11):
The rappers nowadays sitting with streamers and putting the putting
their hand in a bag, trying to see what you
think that is. I think that's a wreck.

Speaker 2 (12:18):
That might be a ratted And now you niggas plan, man,
You nigga playing pete, you plan, You ain't building no real.

Speaker 1 (12:27):
You see what I'm saying. You niggas on the same road.

Speaker 2 (12:29):
Jay Z was on Homie Say say Homie, this is
the same role Master P was on.

Speaker 1 (12:35):
James Lindsey was on QCP, was on Coach K, was
on didd.

Speaker 2 (12:40):
It, was on fifty, was on Big and naires come.

Speaker 4 (12:45):
Up off this road.

Speaker 1 (12:46):
Nigga, y'all gonna.

Speaker 2 (12:48):
Sit around playing video games and bulls shitting around.

Speaker 1 (12:53):
It's a time for that, and it's a culture for that.

Speaker 2 (12:55):
And I salute that because I play video game and
those of you that's in my this coord know this.
But I'm telling you, man, when you are on the
court and you in the game of this magnitude, you
gotta do everything in your ability to continue to put
points on the board and also playing for the next game.
See a lot of y'all niggas really really is so confused.

(13:20):
You gotta plan for the next quarter, brother, like you
had a good first quarter, Like you had a good
first quarter your career. You know, be doing this twenty years,
twenty five years, like you had a great first quarter.
You gotta plan on the set. What are you doing
in your second quarter your career? Still rapping, still going

(13:41):
to get with them, same producer nigga and still rapping.
By to say, listen, bro, you gotta map this shit out.
And you can't run around chasing children as you know
streamers kids respectfully to them, and they ain't got nothing
to do with me shunning them. Homing, we building infrastructure,
when the wild wild way.

Speaker 1 (14:00):
It's some tech.

Speaker 2 (14:00):
You gotta help build businesses and brands, period. And if
you don't like that and he don't respect it, he
don't gotta respect it. Let's get back to the big
you thing, because I'm all over the place.

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the episode. Eugene Big U Henley, a prominent figure in
Los Angeles known for his dual roles as a community
activist and a leader of the roll In sixty neighborhood crips,
has recently been arrested in charged with operating a criminal enterprise.
Allegations against him include murder, human trafficking, extortion.

Speaker 1 (15:45):
And fraud.

Speaker 2 (15:46):
Notably, Henley IT is accused of misusing funds for its
anti gang charity developing options for those of you who
are implanted in hip hop rap culture because my audience
does to reach outside of that sometimes. So Big You
was instrumental with Nipsey Hustle. He's kind of been in

(16:09):
the shadows of the music business. He has a lot
of relationship with rappers He's did a couple of different
docu style mini series documenting his life and a number
of podcasts as well. He was arrested over the last
couple of years. Man, it has been a very interesting

(16:30):
situation to watch. Big You and Whack one hundred used
to be extremely close. They had a fallout and it
led to, in my opinion, a lot of information that
was unknown to the general public. A lot of things
that may should have not even been discussed in the
general public ended up coming out and creeping out. Before

(16:53):
we get into breaking down and commentary and giving any
game and insight as to what we feel about the
case and the things arounding it, I do want to
play this video of the risk and the pickup of
Big U Eugene Henley.

Speaker 1 (17:11):
From La Rolling sixty Crips Pittens.

Speaker 5 (17:13):
Following several breaking news stories at this hour, we begin
with that South LA man with the Fed say used
taxpayer money and donations to fund gang activities. In the
past hour, we've learned that Eugene Henley Junior and Brian
Mahea were taken into custody. Hemley Junior is a longtime
leader of the Rolling Systis Crips. According to the FBI,

(17:35):
but in recent years he worked in entertainment and ran
a youth charity that the acting US Attorney now says
was a front for his criminal enterprise. NBC four is
Camilla Rambaldi live in downtown LA with the very latest
developments on this Camilla.

Speaker 6 (17:52):
Now Hi Colleen. Nineteen defendants in total in connection to
this criminal enterprise. At least two of them appeared in
federal court earlier today and now, as you mentioned, Eugene
Henley and another fugitive are now in custody today in
connection to this case. A known community activist and founder
of a youth nonprofit in South LA now facing federal charges.

Speaker 7 (18:16):
A career criminal known as big U.

Speaker 6 (18:18):
Eugene Henley is accused of being a longtime leader of
the Rolling Sixties at Crypts Street gang. Federal prosecutor say
Henley ran a criminal enterprise and is accused of a
number of crimes, including racketeering, human trafficking, fraud, and the
twenty twenty one murder of a musician.

Speaker 7 (18:35):
He has maintained the image of an entertainment industry entrepreneur
running a music label and of somebody who gives back
to the community here in Los Angeles. The facts a legend.
The complaint paint a very different picture. It is one
of a murderer, a thief, a liar.

Speaker 6 (18:52):
Federal authorities say there are other alleged gang members facing
charges they say are connected to the criminal enterprise. A
number of arrests were made this week. These sketches showed
two defendants, Sylvester Robinson and Mark Martin, in federal court
Wednesday afternoon.

Speaker 7 (19:09):
For the nineteen defendants were already in custody, and ten
defendants were taken into custody in the last twenty four hours.

Speaker 6 (19:15):
CORE documents also state Henley fraudulently obtained funding from the
City of Los Angeles through the Gang Reduction Youth Development Foundation.
Henley was a founder behind the nonprofit Developing Options that
helped support at risk youth, and.

Speaker 8 (19:28):
Mister Henley duped the County of Los Angeles by running
a nonprofit named Developing Options, which was set up to
pull youth out of the gang life and promote anti
gang solutions. Yet mister Henley continued to personally orchestrate violent
gang activity that impact our communities.

Speaker 6 (19:46):
Core document state Henley had drawn hundreds of thousands of
dollars for his own use.

Speaker 7 (19:50):
Mister Henley is accused of embezzling donations made by celebrities,
professional athletes, and businesses to his charity.

Speaker 6 (19:58):
Federal prosecutors say Henley could face a twenty year prison
sentence if convicted on the racketeering charges.

Speaker 1 (20:06):
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Speaker 7 (20:12):
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Speaker 6 (20:14):
Have learned this evening. Eugene Hedley and Brian and Mahea
are expected to be in court tomorrow in downtown La.
Camilla Rambaldi NBC for News.

Speaker 10 (20:24):
Government and tax records show millions of dollars have poured
into the nonprofit. The FED was that the center of
this criminal enterprise. Our investigative reporter Air Colutter joins US
Now with more on how this organization was being funded
and where all this money was going.

Speaker 11 (20:38):
Air oh Hi Michael, Well, the most surprising discovery here
is that the nonprofit called the Ex Offender Fellowship Network,
which was also known as Developing Options, a pair of
nonprofits that the city says were essentially one entity. We're
facing suspensions from state tax authorities.

Speaker 4 (20:56):
The city of.

Speaker 11 (20:56):
La has been paying these nonprofits millions of dollars in
recent years, and the amounts have only gone up.

Speaker 12 (21:04):
The California Franchise Tax Board issued a suspension notice in
April twenty twenty four for one of the nonprofits operated
by Eugene Henley Junior, who federal prosecutors in LA announced
Wednesday faces racketeering and corruption charges for allegedly misusing money
meant for the city's gang intervention efforts. Henley's most recent

(21:24):
contract with the city shows a payment of nearly eight
hundred thousand dollars due in July twenty twenty four, the
final installment of a four year agreement that paid his
groups more than two point two million dollars for intervention. Henley,
seen here in a red carpet photo, began forming the
nonprofits in two thousand and nine, according to state records.

(21:44):
They began receiving city gang intervention funding as far back
as twenty eleven. Between twenty eighteen and twenty twenty three,
LA Controller payment records show Henley's groups received around half
a million dollars a year, then in twenty twenty three,
a significant increase that followed then Mayor Eric Garcetti's efforts
to increase funding for intervention work after the rise in

(22:07):
violent street crime that followed the COVID nineteen pandemic. Looking
at the tax records for the Ex Offender Fellowship, which
includes the city money and private donations, you can see
its revenue went from around half a million dollars a
year to nearly eight hundred thousand, then to nearly two
million for twenty twenty three, the last tax return available.

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Where was the money going? The tax return show while
Eugene Henley Junior was paid ninety five thousand dollars as
president and director, nearly all the money collected went to
compensate unnamed top staff members, including corporate officers, directors, and trustees.
According to the criminal complaint, Henley diverted much of that
money to his personal bank accounts, and the FED say

(22:48):
he allegedly pocketed tens of thousands of dollars in donations
intended for the groups, including a twenty thousand dollars contribution
from an NBA All Star.

Speaker 11 (22:59):
Federal of authorities say in addition to all of that,
they believe that Henley evaded taxes by not reporting all
of this income. Was also allegedly involved in a scheme
to get a home loan that he wouldn't.

Speaker 1 (23:10):
Have qualified for otherwise.

Speaker 11 (23:12):
We asked the City of la for its response about
its oversight of these gang intervention programs. The Mayor's office
sent us some remarks a few minutes ago and said
the city has strict oversight in place, but they say
the allegations made public today show that there was a
sophisticated scheme to thwart that kind of oversight. Live of
the News Operations Center, I'm investigative reporter Eric Leonard, NBC

(23:33):
four News back to you.

Speaker 13 (23:35):
It was just yesterday on the south steps of City
Hall when Mayor Karen Bass how did the success of
publicly funded anti crime community groups a message to Washington
not to cut out federal grant money for the mayor's
signature effort at fighting gang violence.

Speaker 14 (23:50):
Through our Gang Reduction and Youth Development Program also known
as GRID. We are directly addressing gang violence through intervention, prevention,
and community engagement services.

Speaker 13 (24:01):
But according to the US Department of Justice today, not
all of that money was going to reduce gang violence.

Speaker 1 (24:07):
Federal authorities say.

Speaker 13 (24:08):
Self described community activist Eugene Henley, also known as Big U,
received two point three million dollars from the city over
five years for gang intervention efforts, money prosecutors say instead
went into drug trafficking, fraud, even murder, and Henley's own
bank account.

Speaker 7 (24:25):
At criminal enterprise, where hundreds of thousands of dollars were
siphoned off that should have gone to charitable purposes gang reduction,
gang intervention.

Speaker 13 (24:35):
The news comes exactly at the wrong time for those
trying to halt the avestation of federal spending by the
Trump administration and most specifically billionaire Elon Musk. While crime
prevention grant money is a tiny fraction of the overall
federal budget, it helps with the messaging.

Speaker 2 (24:51):
So as you see the legend a bunch of different things,
but their only focused on Big U as their tokien
because the state of Los Angeles has a interest in
understanding where that money went. But they're being disingenuous because
if you do the research on all of nonprofit organizations, charities,

(25:14):
people that accept donations across all industries, what we've found
is that a large.

Speaker 1 (25:22):
Sum of the money goes to pay the staff.

Speaker 2 (25:24):
So there's a formula in place right where people have
figured out a way to see and break down exactly
how much of the one hundred dollars makes it to
the actual children of some of these charities, and how
beneficial the money really is when you donate to a charity,
and I believe, for like one hundred dollars, I believe
like six dollars actually got spent on something that was

(25:46):
given to the children. And that's what I mean. So
there's a lot of bureaucracy as it pertains to paperwork
and funding and who's being paid from a lot of
these grants.

Speaker 1 (25:56):
That's number one.

Speaker 2 (25:57):
Number two, I want to be clear because if if
I'm not careful because I come from the Inner City,
people who are not from our culture can try to
paint me as a criminal apologist. And so I want
to get on the record and be clear that I
don't support crime. I understand the scenarios that the Inner

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City has been faced with and how we have to
do what's necessary to feed our families. I'm also smart
enough to understand that the lack of resources lends itself
to the lack of skill set, and so you do
what's easiest to do to get what you need. Right,
it's just self preservation, and a lot of times drug
dealing is one of the first things that's on the table,

(26:40):
and so sometimes I try to give grace as it
pertains to black men and how they have encountered such
a road, such a street, such a pathway in order
to try to find liberation. Now I'm going to start
being very, very very aggressive towards the people who are
staying put in a dope game. I'm starting to as

(27:02):
I get old, I'm starting to have zero tolerance to
the people who don't understand that get to full out
the dope game. And so as they're saying big U
is in bezzling money, that's why that particular clip was
focused on him.

Speaker 1 (27:16):
And what he done. But this is a part of
a larger rico.

Speaker 2 (27:20):
You have a couple of people who are on this
rico who are part of No Jumper. You got brick
Baby and louse Cannon comes sometimes and then you have
Whack one hundred that I want to throw in the conversation.
But before I do that, I want to think about
the mindset of big U, Like, what was the mindset?

(27:41):
What's the mindset when if itiz has actually came, kicked
your door, their legend, murder, all of this, if this
stuff is true, it was all quiet. A couple of
years ago they first did these raids and Whack one
hunter has this crew of people that he's associated with,
and one of those guys were actually on the scene

(28:05):
of the raid and had video footage of it.

Speaker 1 (28:08):
Come to find.

Speaker 2 (28:09):
Out, Big You believes that these gentlemen are working with
the police. Now we're gonna get into this a little
bit today because this is gonna be a very interesting conversation.
So we're not gonna duck and dodge this conversation in
Whack whoever one of you niggas, y'all can hit me
and we can get to this.

Speaker 1 (28:28):
But I think.

Speaker 2 (28:31):
We have a lot to discuss as it pertains to
the behavior of so called street guys and the ability
of people on these podcast mics to do things that
lead to investigation. We're not gonna ignore that today. We're
gonna have a real conversation both as far as Big U.
He gets the news that his houses are being raided
and so they kick your door and if you Big

(28:51):
You their leegend extortion murder. They got you a part
of a rico. There's robbery's going on. They claim have
you on tape, excepting as little as one thousand dollars
from someone And these are the kind of scenarios I'm saying,
all right, this why you don't play in the mud.
I'm not pulling up on nobody for a thousand dollars.

Speaker 1 (29:16):
I ain't pulling up.

Speaker 2 (29:17):
For no thousand dollars. You know what I mean. That
ain't gonna happen. You ain't gonna treat me on my
spot for no K no one K. That is never
gonna happen. Here's what's interesting. So while big U's house
is being raided, he's not there. They got everybody else,
but they don't got him. They kick in a couple
of his houses. He's not there. This gentleman who is

(29:39):
associated with Whack one hundred happens to be on the scene.
Get some video. Lets everyone know, Yo, this is real.
The fizz is actually on big U. Big U disappears,
He's now deemed a fugitive.

Speaker 1 (29:54):
Now the first thing on my mind is the big home.
It finna go haywi.

Speaker 2 (30:04):
Yeah, I thought he was finna come out and for
my last disappearing act Whack one hundred.

Speaker 4 (30:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (30:11):
Nah man, Hey listen, I don't know what they be doing. Bruh, bruh, Hey, Yo,
it's only so much that I'm gonna say, and yo,
br come on man for my next disappearing act. Whack
one hundred. I ain't gonna lie that'll been mine. I

(30:32):
thought when he came on missing, I said, he fin
he finna go up at a note jumper and wait
on whack and somebody finna pop out and gone cause
because it looked like they're gonna try to kneel him
to the cross. Man, if I felt like you've done
that to me, I'm coming to higher at you. And
the only reason I'm speaking to that is because here's
big U last video before you actually turned itself in.

Speaker 1 (30:56):
Pay attention.

Speaker 15 (30:58):
This is my last video before I turn myself in.
Out with my family. Talk to my sons, I talk
to everybody. Ma'a'ma saying, gonna deal with this fight. See
what it is. I just won't try to know. All

(31:20):
this stuff is quiet mind, she's all bull crack.

Speaker 4 (31:28):
No.

Speaker 15 (31:29):
I just need y'all prayers. I need y'all to I
don't even know what to say.

Speaker 4 (31:40):
Now.

Speaker 16 (31:40):
Twenty one years I elevated my family. Come back.

Speaker 15 (31:47):
Shit in here and write and do what I need
to do until I can come back home. People are
supposed to help me. I'll hope you help me. You hain't,
you don't, don't worry about it, and a lot of
stuff y'all hearing it straight trash.

Speaker 16 (32:02):
I appreciate the love and appreciate people can help me.
I don't know.

Speaker 15 (32:12):
It's hard helping black people and not being hunted for
doing it.

Speaker 10 (32:20):
Spas Street.

Speaker 9 (32:20):
It might be too.

Speaker 4 (32:21):
I don't know if it's to the writer or left.

Speaker 15 (32:24):
Reach out to anybody who can help me out. You
hear me, help me own family.

Speaker 2 (32:32):
So what you gotta remember is that this particular time
Big U is on the run. The Fears has listed
him as a fugitive. They went to arrest him this
morning and he's not there. Evidently they're coming from somewhere.
But as you can see in his voice in his face,
he's defeated. They done tricked me out my spot. They

(32:55):
got me because Big you were still running off of
old school rule like silence, no response is not a defense. Now,
when you got nicked with platforms, if you're not gonna respond,
it gotta be because some gangster shit is going on
with that platform.

Speaker 1 (33:15):
I would have put the press on Adam.

Speaker 2 (33:17):
I would have put the press on that building y'all
finna stop having them conversations about me up or somebody
finna really get hurt.

Speaker 1 (33:25):
Dump.

Speaker 2 (33:26):
I mean them dudes got five million subscribers, and they
was up there just saying, many boy got they found.

Speaker 1 (33:31):
Some shit under their finger? Nail man, What them folks
up are doing?

Speaker 4 (33:35):
Man?

Speaker 1 (33:37):
Man, I wouldn't listen. Man, they told me so.

Speaker 2 (33:41):
I had got word one time that they were trying
to set the building on fire. I literally got somebody
told me man that they were going up to burn
and tie no Jumper building down.

Speaker 1 (33:53):
Big you know, his brand, for lack of better.

Speaker 2 (33:55):
Term, it's been affected, right, Wack has been saying all
these different things, and now the FEDS has kind of
solidified some of it, and they're legend that Yo, everyone
he was cool with, he basically was extorting them. That
makes him radioactive because don't nobody want to look like
a sucker.

Speaker 1 (34:12):
So they they know, like.

Speaker 2 (34:13):
If you see an NBA nick next to Big you
at this point, you're gonna think, according to the Fed,
you paying that boy. And so it makes him radioactive
fresh at the gate. I can only imagine what he
feels like, Yo, Whack them got me? I would have
I Hey, Yo, Bru. I hate to say this, but
I'm so surprised that they didn't do any forceful suppression

(34:36):
of whacking one hunter. I'm surprised they didn't do that.
Pay attention to what else big U said.

Speaker 15 (34:47):
I'm looking at this video as I come in to
turn myself in, and I'm disheartened by the fact that
they trying to say that I stole something up from
the velopin option. I used developing option for the front.
Develop paid my bill, They paying my house. No, they
pay the bills for my family. The money I made
from my as employee for development Option. I never mixed

(35:10):
up with nothing. I didn't manipul, ain't nobody out to
steal nothing.

Speaker 4 (35:14):
We did.

Speaker 2 (35:14):
People pelongs and I say this respectfully. The big U,
I know he's mine, is all over the place. But
when he comes out to speak about this and this
being his one statement, you gotta really he should have
really put this together, right. I know what he's saying
because I'm following him. You know what I'm saying. But
the people who are not investing in trying to understand

(35:37):
what you're saying. And so for people who don't understand
the inner workings of nonprofit organizations, charitable organizations. Then what
he just said could be took as well. He just
said development options pay his bills. That's kind of what
they're saying. Well, he needed to really explain to you

(35:57):
guys the inner workings, meaning that as a staff we
have to be paid as well. And I was on
the staff of developing options and drawing a paycheck as
a worker. Not developing options paid my bills, you know,
but I get it. The fizz at them. He don't
know what's going on. All you may be telling. They

(36:19):
may be finn flip. He may be finna go turn
itself in for the rest of his life. That's a
hell of a decision just to even go walk down now,
to go down there being big U with the kind
of resources and leverages like to gone, I'm gonna turn
myself in. That's a big deal coming from a street culture,
because dudes will go ahead and run. They're going to
run and just take their chances. You probably ain't gonna

(36:43):
get no bond anyway, because they gonna act like you
extorting people. They probably ain't gonna let you have no bond.
So why would I go turn myself in? You be
about to catch me. That's what most guys will say
in that scenario, most criminals or fugitives or people put
in that category. Now, what I'm saying is for him,
he should explain this in a way what a general
republic understood what he said. But he came out and said,

(37:05):
developing Options paid my bills, it paid my house. No
the and he kind of got into it later. You know,
ed paid my bills as an employee, right, But I
just think it needed to be more concise, more coherent,
more clean, cut to the chase, because this is a
very important message that you're putting out.

Speaker 1 (37:28):
But I can imagine his mind is all over the place.
Pensions in two.

Speaker 15 (37:33):
Loans and that's it, just like everybody else did. I
didn't use no fraud. I didn't give none, no fake names.
And one of them was paying back. In one they
forgave you know what I mean. And the other one
we attempted for it and they didn't give us nothing
for it. I found my taxes and then coming around
talking about I was using develop an Option as a
cover and cover for what. None of that's gonna be true.

(37:54):
None of that's gonna be true. The government putting this
big ass picture. They gonna arrest twenty one dudes. Dudes,
I don't even talk to it. I don't even know
nothing about somehow hell you gonna lump me in with
all them. But it's all a big picture, though, it's
all a big picture. Now I'm for to be sitting

(38:15):
in there. It's gonna be years on my line. Then
you I'm again, you going to get dudes who won't
even talk to what they gonna say.

Speaker 1 (38:26):
You ruining people lives.

Speaker 15 (38:28):
I heard this up with twenty one people that's that's
been arrested, and shit wrong. It is what it is, churms.
Just pray for me, Pray for me, pray for my family.
And you look at what we did. You look at
what I did. I been home twenty one years. It

(38:50):
ain't over though, That's what it's now, blessings. I'm'a looking
at all these choices on the news. I'm'a head it
back to LA and then I'm looking at the people
they arresting.

Speaker 16 (39:07):
How you gonna go arrest people that I.

Speaker 15 (39:10):
Don't even talk to. That's a built in liar right there,
You know what I mean. So it's now how they
gonna work the case Everybody know I don't fuck with Cannon.
Everybody know I'm fuck brick Vay. So you win to
rest certain dudes. Them was the du and putting them
next to me, them was the dudes. You gonna have

(39:32):
to call all theyself turn it against me. Welln't ain't
no turn against me. I ain't going for that. You
might as well go get six hundred away.

Speaker 4 (39:43):
These dudes didn't saying I did shit. Oh year.

Speaker 15 (39:46):
So what they doing is they go on the internet,
and these dudes say that I did sit on the internet.
Then when you say I did on internet, they gonna
investigate it. Now you raising my houses, raising my shops,
raising all the stuff they tell me, I'm committing crimes
and covering up with developing option? What crimes in my community?
To cover up with developing option? You know what I'm saying.

(40:10):
I ain't committed no crimes, ain't covering nothing with developing option.
Shit crazy. But this is how they get you. They
get one or two people to say something. I ain't
gonna be no real evidence, ain't gonna be no real nothing.

(40:31):
It's gonna be a repeated thug. It's gonna be a
bunch of people in jail for a bunch of different
crimes that don't have nothing to do with me. They
filling up all of us up and say it's all
of roller sixties. Watch you see, we just seen it
with Doug. I'm feeling experienced the same thing out here.

Speaker 16 (40:49):
I knew it was coming.

Speaker 15 (40:52):
Now they're on this saying all this stuff that assassinate
my character. Alright, man, just pray for me. And again
they get they ain gonna do any one of us.
It ain't nobody say with these dudes. If these dudes

(41:14):
feel like, won't you how the ain't going around talking
about somebody's gonna raid my house before my house get raised?
And how they there with the police and y'all sitting
there following 'em. Everybody is supported them shows and one
hundred shows and on them shows, and y'all need to
everybody who following them promoting 'em anything y'all wrong. Y'all

(41:37):
ain't black, and y'all show ain't far our people. They
could put charges against anybody. M So this is gonna
probably be my last video. I'm gonna go turn myself
in to see what's going on. They talking about refusitive
So they just raised all my houses. Six hundred was

(42:02):
actually with the police when they raided my house, and
he's actually got video on footage of it, so y'all
know what y'all dealing with. And I just wanna say
this to to y'all. When they raided my houses and
my property, they was aking about whack whack loose cannon
six hundred. And this intern is to all of y'all. Five,

(42:24):
All y'all who be sending shit around the internet. All
y'all who be promoting and listening to what these niggas did,
All y'all giving these likes and hidding likes, all y'all supporting,
is all y'all guilty is f shit. If you had
something against a black man, you should handling like handling
with a with a black man in the streets. Wax
said a hundred times he was gonna take my contracts.

(42:46):
He working with the FBI. The FBI went to the
city three days in a row and told the city
they didn't want nobody to give me no more money.
They went to all their different celebrities and told all
the different celebrities, don't give me no money, don't help me,
don't do nothing from me. They going around scared and
intimidating everybody, but y'all sitting it around getting people in

(43:08):
trouble like y'all don't understand what the FBR do to
black men who try to help they community. I ain't
doing nothing but a help to our community. But I
guess it is what it is. This the price of
being black and trying to help somebody. Tryna help your
community and do what you can. You just guilty because

(43:31):
somebody else don't like you. They an't go on the
internet and do what the fuck they want to when
y'all gonna promote it. It's crazy. But I'm gonna go
turn myself in though, cause I ain't there nothing.

Speaker 16 (43:49):
This fact is, man.

Speaker 15 (43:51):
They done went to my house, kicked my houses in,
bust my doors down, bust my windows. They calling my
son at his football practice, threatening him.

Speaker 16 (44:01):
You know what I mean, these dudes tagging him. What
kind of shit is this? But you're all gonna be
rolling with you, you doude.

Speaker 15 (44:07):
I got this last thing to say, whac suit he's
gonna destroy developing option? Right, So who's gonna replace developing option?
Which one of you in the sixty is gonna call yourself?
Coming in because whoever it comes try to come in. Y'all,
the ones that's working with Whack believe that, so remove
me to get me out the way for somebody else
to come in who gonna cooperate.

Speaker 16 (44:28):
That's what the play is. That's what the whole play is.
I'm out.

Speaker 15 (44:36):
I'm gonna send y'all videos to put up all of
the until they lock me up again.

Speaker 2 (44:41):
Going to turn yourself into that moment, Man, it speaks
volumes if you ask me, because that could very well
be the last time Eugene Henley, a big U was
seen on the street. And it make your time even
harder knowing that this used to be straight with been

(45:02):
running my name on content, and you know that's where
his mine is because he spoke to it.

Speaker 1 (45:07):
Right. So we're gonna get into that a little bit.

Speaker 2 (45:10):
Big You brought up Whack one hundred and a couple
of other niggas and even separated itself from brick Baby,
which is someone who I think Big You put in
position to try to put the fire out.

Speaker 1 (45:22):
A little bit.

Speaker 2 (45:24):
But I believe the gang shit is so messy and convoluted,
and it's just it's so layered that even though we
under the same banner. We may got our own issues
that caused me not to go as hard as I
probably could go for you to shut this shit down
over here, But I won't be involved in nothing. But

(45:45):
I ain't gonna fuck my job up trying to like
crash out about me saying shit about you, you crash
out about this shit. Maybe Brick was looking at it
like that, but Brick Baby stayed on No Jump.

Speaker 1 (45:56):
Of the entire time.

Speaker 2 (45:57):
And we're gonna get into some of the conversations that
was having on No Jumper. So it just doesn't sound
like I'm saying things that don't make sense. But first
I want to give an example of what BIGU was
speaking about. So if you heard Big U in that
recent live before he turned itself into the federal government
for rico charges, he said, what these dudes do is

(46:20):
they go on the Internet and they speak about a
bunch of different things. Now, let's be clear, big you
had a Level three, Tier three Title three wire tap
on his phone, as he had been noted to having
a bunch of conversations that were self incriminating allegedly according
to the federal government, one in particular being him trying

(46:42):
to shed Whack one hundred up in the paperwork it
spoke to big U saying over the phone that I'm
gonna break his jaw when I kitch him.

Speaker 1 (46:52):
I noticed that he never talked about killing Whack.

Speaker 2 (46:55):
He never talked about unlive in Whack and Whack seemed
like he's shooting.

Speaker 1 (46:59):
From the head.

Speaker 2 (47:03):
Whack putting police shit and whack seemed like you really
is an enemy of him. But you never really heard
even on these title three wiretaps, you never really heard
him say somebody catched that dude and un alive that dude.
You never heard him say that. But he did mention

(47:23):
breaking his jaw. He did mention a particular time that
was in the paperwork involving Whack one hunting, in which
I guess big U was on the phone saying that,
you know, they called Whack one hundred somewhere and they
were trying to get to him.

Speaker 1 (47:39):
He went and grabbed his.

Speaker 2 (47:40):
Pistol, and uh, I guess it stopped them from being
able to do what they wanted to do. And they
just wanted to put hands and feet on him because
I guess he been running their name, been running big
U name. He really been shitting on big U for
years dog now with them having the conversations about this fight,
because WHA would always denied because I think Whack, you know,

(48:03):
wants to appear like nobody you know tests him and
comes up to him. But this is where I think
it got slippery, because if you ask me, Whack took
a seventy percent hit from his credibility, from his likability,
from people respecting him, and from the street equity, street cachet.

(48:27):
He took a seventy percent hit to take big U
all the way out. It took seventy percent of Whack
one hundred reputation relationships equitin the culture, twenty years of
building his name up being solid. He had to tear
all let down to get Big You out the way.

(48:47):
Here's what was interesting. He tricked him into public discourse.
And so if I believe that brick Baby was over
there trying to defend Big U's name and hold the
honor up just a little bit, or just try to
curve the conversation away from so much of the gang
banging kind of shit, Whack wouldn't let him Whack continue

(49:11):
to make him have the conversations in public. Now, this
particular fight conversation. No one knows about it. The first
time we hear about it is on Clubhouse. The second
time we hear about it is on Academics Platform.

Speaker 1 (49:28):
Pay attention.

Speaker 9 (49:29):
I ain't gonna lie. I feel like this is like
big pudding, Like I'm not.

Speaker 17 (49:35):
Even like like, oh bro, all right, okay, okay, So
you say go to five what fifty one and you'll
see the.

Speaker 9 (49:49):
Stuff something at five fifteen, I'm watching.

Speaker 2 (49:56):
I'm watching, and so again the reasons and I'm playing
this is because I want you all to see how
he has a gang bangle, which is brick Baby, who
is listening in the indictment on here talking about a crime.
This is basically a crime being spoke to DJ Academics

(50:17):
about where they tried to whoop on whack one hundred.

Speaker 1 (50:19):
This is big you.

Speaker 2 (50:20):
This supposed to be the big Homie. How the big
Homie getting brought up on the internet and ain't nobody
being held accountable?

Speaker 1 (50:25):
Pay attention. Oh okay, I.

Speaker 9 (50:28):
See something, right, I see something back here.

Speaker 4 (50:35):
Yeah, I can't really see the whole shit.

Speaker 18 (50:39):
And then at thirteen fifteen you gonna see wack Yate,
John T.

Speaker 4 (50:43):
Cuban and Baby Cuban.

Speaker 18 (50:44):
Live in the third person jump off the front of
the stage while little one's in the game of the woman.

Speaker 19 (50:53):
Well, he couldn't have got slacked because he walked right
back to the.

Speaker 18 (51:00):
You don't know what just happened, because we had to
be you, bro You don't know who's stopping who and
who's putting off. They say somebody clutched like they had
a distance in there while they were stuffling and left back.

Speaker 4 (51:10):
He walked back. He ran back through the right, hit
me back through the front.

Speaker 18 (51:20):
Because somebody act like they clutched and gave him enough
time to hit from here.

Speaker 19 (51:27):
Let me ask you a question, if this is all true,
why would you even do a podcast? Who wa Because
I would think that whack is about to line me up?
Why would you do a podcast?

Speaker 4 (51:38):
Ain't me up? I've been in this mother going crazy?
You ever and they better think tight? So he lined
the break up.

Speaker 18 (51:44):
I'm telling you, brother, I'm lying you up here, ain't myself.
I ain't saying it's big draws Tiny draws his nephew.

Speaker 4 (51:57):
Who's he draws that? Dirty to twenty don't know, man broke.

Speaker 9 (52:08):
We might need a little bit more. Claire audio video
on this.

Speaker 4 (52:11):
Man as I said say thirteen.

Speaker 18 (52:15):
At thirteen twenty seven, three seconds after the last of
Whack Crew jumps off the stage, Tiny Draws pops out
and see Tiny Draws at thirteen twenty.

Speaker 9 (52:26):
Seven in the blue draws the blues.

Speaker 18 (52:29):
Here, I'm about to show it to you. He comes
from right through that thing, looking to see where wack
just went.

Speaker 9 (52:33):
Who's Who's tiny Draws.

Speaker 18 (52:35):
I'm about to see the stream shut that big yous
real name is It's a good name in the hood.

Speaker 4 (52:40):
Is big Draws. Tiny Draws is his nephew.

Speaker 9 (52:44):
Oh oh, wack, No, I don't all you gotta have
the quarters with the drag. This is like a Davonte.

Speaker 18 (52:53):
This is hold on this draw, tiny drawn, hold on
tiny drugs that popped out from backstage.

Speaker 4 (53:00):
Are you calling it the draws this list call it
a drawing? Your stream, we call it a draw.

Speaker 9 (53:08):
No no, no, no no.

Speaker 4 (53:10):
The world for the world to judge. You can't, you can't.
You can't let them see.

Speaker 2 (53:15):
And this is what a problem came in at. You
just heard brick Baby say this is for the world
to judge. Number one of the mistake was why do
academics need to know who.

Speaker 1 (53:24):
Tiny Draws is?

Speaker 2 (53:29):
Somebody tell me why academics need to know who Tiny
Draws is and why he needs to know big you
real hood.

Speaker 1 (53:37):
Name and all of this and that and that and this.

Speaker 2 (53:41):
It's because Wag don't tricked them into feeling embarrassed and
so they coming out in the public. Yo, certain things
got to be handled in quiet. Pay attention.

Speaker 4 (53:53):
We already know that you're not gonna go again.

Speaker 9 (53:56):
No no, no, no, no, no, no, not even that.

Speaker 19 (53:58):
No, it's like, all right, it's like if Javonte Davis
is a champ, if you don't knock out the tamp.

Speaker 9 (54:04):
Even like we can't just like we're gonna have to.

Speaker 4 (54:08):
You know.

Speaker 19 (54:08):
It's like, Whack is the most hated nigga. If it
looks a little hazy, the most we could give you
is a draw. If it was what it was, Whack
would be taking an extended blink on the canvas, like
just knocked out. We gotta be like, this is like
a draw. This is like, you know, maybe not a

(54:28):
clear win, but but but yeah, the only think.

Speaker 17 (54:32):
So ah man can hold on.

Speaker 4 (54:38):
Wait, give it.

Speaker 19 (54:39):
I gotta get Whack to the response to this. I
gotta I gotta shot your wag on the phone.

Speaker 1 (54:45):
Again. This is before we know of any indictment.

Speaker 2 (54:50):
Whack One has been on the internet at this point
saying that brick Baby was arrested for a k that
no one knows about and that the feeds had so
we can presume that a federal investigation is going on.
But the idea that you got a square academics in
the middle of two gang bangers.

Speaker 1 (55:08):
They got real shit going on, Like Big U is.

Speaker 2 (55:12):
On phone saying, you want to break this nigga, y'all,
both of them working with Adam. Like you got two
squares in the middle of some real powerful shit that's
going on with Big U and Whack one Hunter. You
got Adam and and Academics with your squaes. It's entertainment
for them. So I got brick Baby on the phone,
which I got brick Baby on the phone, which if

(55:33):
bricking Wax see each other, something truly can happen at
any moment. But I got brick Baby on the phone.
Hold on, let me get Whack on the phone. Let
me get the nigga whack on the phone.

Speaker 1 (55:51):
Let me get Whack on the phone.

Speaker 2 (55:55):
And what do you think happens when Wag gets on
the phone. They go even deep into the game conversation.
Pay attention.

Speaker 9 (56:03):
Why why think I'm like a lot of what?

Speaker 3 (56:07):
Yo?

Speaker 4 (56:07):
What up?

Speaker 19 (56:08):
Please get on the phone with me. Brother, Hey, listen,
I got brick baby on here. He's telling me about
some ship. I don't think you tell me something. I'm
looking at some footage told about. You know who the
Painty Draws is.

Speaker 4 (56:23):
You know that would about it.

Speaker 9 (56:25):
They're talking about some concert. I guess this is at
the Novo.

Speaker 18 (56:30):
Bro.

Speaker 4 (56:32):
Bro, listen to me.

Speaker 9 (56:33):
You weren't talking about that.

Speaker 3 (56:34):
Same This is the same fake ship they brought up
three years ago that they never had the footage.

Speaker 4 (56:41):
You don't remember that, bro?

Speaker 9 (56:42):
Okayay, let me because I agree, because I even tried
to look at it.

Speaker 4 (56:47):
I didn't see nothing.

Speaker 9 (56:48):
I didn't see nothing.

Speaker 3 (56:49):
What's gonna not gonna happen is that nobody ain't gonna
remember what I told you about?

Speaker 4 (56:56):
Uh sharp, Yeah, it's who they're trying to do. It
ain't gonna happen.

Speaker 3 (57:01):
I don't even like the fact because all he's gonna
do is water down your platform, cause Nick ain't got
no motion.

Speaker 4 (57:07):
Bro. Okay, so.

Speaker 9 (57:11):
He said you gotta do is that true?

Speaker 3 (57:15):
Look, we've been telling him to come up there in
the fact when he comes up there, and you know
how it's gonna go. You know how it's we're trying
to get him up there. He's supposed to come Thursday.
If he comes Thursday, he will be content, live on camera.

Speaker 19 (57:31):
Work your wa will stream, will hold on to town.

Speaker 4 (57:35):
He starts saying it. I hear it. I call up here.

Speaker 3 (57:38):
I said, I'm on my wait ni y'all and you
he said, your brick said it, brick. Tell the man,
I was just clothing. I didn't mean for you to
go fit. So he started bunting it down. I said,
I'll be up here in a minute.

Speaker 18 (57:49):
About this, you want to start playing dumb and talk
about vibrations and all that.

Speaker 9 (57:57):
That ain't done that it was coming now coming down,
that's real.

Speaker 1 (58:04):
I listen. But about this, yeah, I got to go
to them. I'm out of the.

Speaker 3 (58:10):
Spirit niggas about five minutes, bro, five minutes I missed combined.

Speaker 1 (58:20):
This ship real.

Speaker 3 (58:21):
I go, like I wrote, I wasn't playing. I told him,
Bigga said, I'm back in town.

Speaker 4 (58:27):
You're playing with my name. They throw me all up there.
I'm on the way.

Speaker 2 (58:32):
When I get there, watch this party gonna merge. The
call pay attention again, this is entertainment to academics. Pay attention.
This is a real crime. They about to talk about you.

Speaker 4 (58:43):
You will not show up here. His ursy gonna get break. Yo, Yo.

Speaker 9 (58:53):
You ran out of the billing where Wacker was coming.

Speaker 2 (58:55):
What I told you, I'm.

Speaker 9 (59:00):
I'm watching an interview. I didn't made this up. I
promise you. It's called six o seven walks out.

Speaker 4 (59:05):
Of watching the interview. So watch the interview without bias.

Speaker 18 (59:09):
If I told I wasn't even supposed to be on
that interview, I had a hard three o'clock.

Speaker 4 (59:13):
That was that three forty five.

Speaker 18 (59:15):
I had Lad blatant for me just to be in
the middle of that bullshit. I had to beat him
blad at three o'clock. I didn't get the land till fourth.

Speaker 9 (59:23):
Are you okay?

Speaker 4 (59:24):
To be fair?

Speaker 9 (59:24):
Only watched like the only n park you do, say, say.

Speaker 4 (59:28):
Black one, Whack, he's not full enough for me.

Speaker 18 (59:31):
Me and Whack are laughing on that phone call, and
I'm telling him like.

Speaker 4 (59:34):
He's goin to come up here, fuck you up, make
a good luck.

Speaker 9 (59:37):
Nigga, like nothing to do with me.

Speaker 1 (59:42):
Oh okay, all right.

Speaker 4 (59:43):
They didn't go watch it.

Speaker 18 (59:44):
That situation didn't have nothing to do with me, and
UK ran out like leave, we leave, just out, let go,
that mean until he's trying to line us up. And
I looked back and laughed, and we really followed me
the blag. Then I wasn't even blat and I told
him like, let me tell hi, lad, I.

Speaker 4 (59:59):
Got more guest, just me and Conrad.

Speaker 18 (01:00:01):
Well that means that me, Conrad and the other two
woman those with me ran to let us we talk
about bro for one person.

Speaker 19 (01:00:11):
Oh man, you I mean, Y'a'm gonna be honest with you.

Speaker 9 (01:00:16):
Y'all got a lot of ship going on.

Speaker 18 (01:00:17):
This is crazy, Yeah, like come on, run from the
damn whack whack just tried to form a narrative because
he really got caught with with with I only talk
about ship that I could tell.

Speaker 4 (01:00:29):
You everything about. I'm not gonna talk about half of me. Hey, y'all,
you're gonna be up here tomorrow. You know I'm gonna
be there tomorrow. What time you're gonna be there? Bro?
Cause it's like one minute's one way? That manute crazy.
It ain't no one way. It ain't know nothing.

Speaker 18 (01:00:48):
We talk about topics, NI if you talk about you
know what Tom all bron, you know what's be there tomorrow.

Speaker 20 (01:00:57):
I offered you when the last time we could do it,
Yo talking on the jumper, Let's go meet up, nigga, wasn't.

Speaker 9 (01:01:10):
It is?

Speaker 4 (01:01:11):
You said you're gonna be like you weird.

Speaker 3 (01:01:14):
Nigga planing off, block off, Hey, don't play, we're talking.

Speaker 4 (01:01:22):
You were good, Mike, the talk up he.

Speaker 18 (01:01:25):
Been gainst them, He asked.

Speaker 9 (01:01:27):
Baby Huban, Right, if something that happened.

Speaker 18 (01:01:29):
That that was, it don't matter if you must you
went outside, you got fired on, you went outside, got
your on the dead around, weird ass.

Speaker 4 (01:01:39):
If we surrounded, you're gonna beat to the mall. You're
gonna be the mall. What what time streams starting? You
know what, I don't know what time will be live?
You talk live and start the same time every week.

Speaker 18 (01:01:53):
Nick, I'm asking you, Nick om on the die o.

Speaker 4 (01:02:01):
Nigga. Father that you talk about niggas your break. I
don't know. It did bro.

Speaker 18 (01:02:11):
For him for him six, so tomorrow might not be
to day for him.

Speaker 19 (01:02:17):
Yeah, but you have to if you gotta do work
there like you don't look over your shoulder.

Speaker 4 (01:02:21):
Man, the nigga come up there.

Speaker 18 (01:02:22):
That's all my mama niggas hood, he ain't leaving that
bus or nobody with him.

Speaker 4 (01:02:27):
That's all.

Speaker 18 (01:02:27):
Well, sorry, rolled the sixties, No nigga coming up there leaving.
Were all leaving in body bags or ambulance. Nigga, niggahood crib, I.

Speaker 9 (01:02:36):
Ain't gonna I think, I think sixty crib.

Speaker 18 (01:02:39):
We gonna cuz leaving in one two Nigga, every ain't
nobody included everybody getting the ship blown up?

Speaker 4 (01:02:50):
Nigga sick.

Speaker 9 (01:02:51):
So I thought y'all was ondo man.

Speaker 18 (01:02:54):
I wouldn't give a fun about none of that. Nigga
come up there with that drama. Nigga up there, we
could meet in the streets. Let's meet the middle of
the street that had no nigga talk about you want
to go to this white man ship. Nigga if put together,
squabble with me and whack and then while he popping
it like that, Nigga, I'm telling you, I'm gonna make
it to where everybody gotta keep it real. We're gonna

(01:03:16):
see who is snitchy, who's not a snitch after tomorrow, nigga,
I'm hood, let's see if you keep it gainst after
they go with the way I'm gonna take you niggas
who's gonna keep it against it.

Speaker 9 (01:03:27):
That's a's for a work environment. Ain't gonna lie, nigga.

Speaker 4 (01:03:31):
I'm sick, so I'm gonna make it terrible. It ain't
gonna be no more work environment tomorrow.

Speaker 18 (01:03:35):
That's all my mother, dead brother, that's all my folk kids.
Nigga cub come up there tomorrow. I'll promise you that
mother is going up and playing well. And I'm going
up there because I'm going up there.

Speaker 19 (01:03:46):
How they don't be up there at nine o'clock. He's
going up there nine o'clock for rock stars. So him
and Rock start going to squabble, and then I don't know.

Speaker 9 (01:03:53):
What rock squabble and nine am. So so listen you
you got the schedule nine am, rock Star squaldin.

Speaker 4 (01:04:08):
Man, I'm off rock Star.

Speaker 19 (01:04:16):
Don't back out this wabble down, man, this is how
you get back on black Say good book.

Speaker 2 (01:04:24):
So, so, I wanted to give a little bit of
background as to at least one of the allegations that's
in the indictment that did play out online. I think
there's three or four more. No jump is actually mentioned
in two or three other scenarios in this indictment. Well,
we'll have a segment on No Jumper. We may have
to make this two parts because we already over down

(01:04:48):
with this point because of so many videos we have
to play for context. But you know, I sat down
and I thought about this, and I was asking myself.

Speaker 1 (01:05:01):
How did we get here? How did we get here where.

Speaker 2 (01:05:07):
Rappers started to talk about their murders online. I understood
that a little bit. I gave that a little bit
of grace because I understand the bump that comes with it.

Speaker 4 (01:05:19):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:05:20):
What they don't understand is that all of this has
a delayed consequence.

Speaker 1 (01:05:24):
See what we come from.

Speaker 2 (01:05:26):
You usually put your hand on the stove and then
its immediate consequence. A lot of people can't grasp the
fundamental foundation of delayed consequence when they're speaking like this online.
And so I asked myself, I'm like, yo, long, how
did we get here? How do we get to a
spot where not only rappers talking crazy in records? You know,

(01:05:51):
we can mask that under entertainment took it a step further,
took it to interviews. I you know, I guess the
thinking about behind that was you appear to be more authentic.
Once we started to figure out that rappers were lying
and faking and not really who they pretend to be,
basically actors. Culture went through this weird phase where if

(01:06:14):
they believe you, they receive you. But in particular, what
happened in the last four or five.

Speaker 1 (01:06:21):
Years that will.

Speaker 2 (01:06:27):
Change the ideology of certain players involved in this universe
that is dealing with this Rico charge on Big U
in the Rolling sixties out of LA one thing I
pointed to is COVID. COVID changed the world in so
many different ways. COVID single handedly normalized talking online. And

(01:06:56):
I know you really don't understand what I mean, So
I'm going to try to drin down a little bit.
Parties were on Instagram, live dates were on Zoom, Comedians
were on zoom.

Speaker 1 (01:07:06):
Work was via zoom. What was that doing?

Speaker 2 (01:07:12):
It was training everyone to look at a screen and
receive that information prior to that. And that's what I
mean about how the universal work in concert. It's like
the technology needed for us to have a moment where
we trained the entire world that Yo, you got to
watch this screen to understand what's next, to know if

(01:07:35):
you're safe, to check in for your card for your
vaccine or whatever. It is it changed the behavior of
all humans and so now people's consumptions were considered and
communicated online.

Speaker 1 (01:07:54):
And I said, okay, yeah, that's cool.

Speaker 2 (01:07:56):
And I went further and I look at Big U
and Whack situation because I'm trying to follow the steps
back as to how this happens right crimes off the table.
What's interesting to me about the Big U situation is
that I've heard a lot of these things on podcasts
and different dudes just having conversations about on public discourse

(01:08:20):
about some of these things, the check in thing, to
having you robbed and buying it back, the taxing rappers,
taking chains, taking jery loaded dice. I've heard about some
of these different things just on podcasts. So I want

(01:08:40):
to deal with that side of it. What was going
on was Big You tried to address a digital war
with silence. He was literally in a digital war man.
Somewhere along the lines, Whack understood their club house and
the social interaction and social audio.

Speaker 1 (01:08:59):
He took that to his advantage.

Speaker 2 (01:09:01):
First, if you remember, listen when I say Whack told
down seventy percent of his self to get rid of
Big U. I remember clubhouse in the middle of COVID,
and I was sitting back saying, Whack is ruining relationships dudes,
that's cool with him. He'll just go up on them
on clubhouse, go up on somebody else on clubhouse, Go

(01:09:25):
up on the next ni club house, on pile rule,
on club house. You will start hearing Nigga that he
flows he false claim hold up, hold on, I got
hold on.

Speaker 1 (01:09:35):
I got the homie on the phone from a trade
gangster crypt.

Speaker 2 (01:09:38):
Hey man, The homies say, hey hold on man, you
say you from hoo hold on, let me give me
a second. He started using his resources to pull them online,
and you you lose some of them along the way.
Some people is okay with the cloud, but some of
them real Nigga answered that call and ended up in
a clubhouse room.

Speaker 1 (01:09:56):
They'll never answer that call again.

Speaker 2 (01:10:01):
They end up in a clubhouse room talking about penitentiary
of politics and validating if some niggas no baby whooped
the waam and taint such and such, then what the
clubhouse doesn't turn to? I didn't answer the phone for
a homie and now I'm in a clubhouse room.

Speaker 1 (01:10:19):
That's what I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:10:23):
So you owe to a lot of your relationships by
powering yourself up as an internet content personality. And if
you're asking me, I believe Whack to be squeaky clean.
And so if he can trick you guys out in
having this public discourse, you had a disadvantage when you

(01:10:45):
can have Brick Baby or some of these dudes sitting
around talking about, yo, we chased you here.

Speaker 1 (01:10:53):
This is what happened. You did this, I did this,
We've done that.

Speaker 2 (01:10:57):
About the actual encounter with some one online, you've already lost.
So now someone like Whack doesn't need paperwork. He don't
need to call the police. He just need patience. This
is what y'all gotta remember. Nick don't need paperwork. They
need patience when they don't treat you to come out
and talk about your crime, boy, they just need patience

(01:11:19):
because these people watching know these folks watching. So I
wouldn't say Wax snitch. I would say Whack eliminated a
very powerful opponent by using conversation, not confrontation. Big you
failed to realize he was in a digital war.

Speaker 1 (01:11:39):
And then if he.

Speaker 2 (01:11:39):
Did send Brick up better handlet Brick can't really handle
it because Whack was willing to go what can't nobody go.
You can't go there if you dirty. It gotta be
a clean that can go there. And he gotta be
a clean nick with a resume. It ain't that many
of them. If Big You was as smart as me,
I will to pump Jay digs up.

Speaker 1 (01:12:04):
I want to pump Jay digs up.

Speaker 2 (01:12:05):
Ada been somebody I have sent through that will try
to quieting it down a little bit. See what's gone.
Brick Baby was already involved in too much. He can't
really press the line. Now if they approach brick Baby,
it can go left, but he can't really press the line.
When you in a digital warlight, Bigu was in. One
thing you always have to remember is people don't care

(01:12:29):
about the facts. They care about the feeling, the way
it made them feel.

Speaker 1 (01:12:33):
And so.

Speaker 2 (01:12:36):
Whack or bring up an allegation something that's unfounded, unproven,
has not been brought to anyone's attention under the guise
of someone brought it to his attention. Then what he'll
do to solidify it, to make you feel something be
emotionally involved, is he'll bring that individual to come talk,
or some individual to co sign it, or someone who

(01:12:58):
can speak to it or was in proc see of it,
to come and validated. He understands that people care about
how they feel about you hearing things. They don't necessarily
give a fuck about the facts. Some of the nipsy
slammer has lasted this long without any facts because it

(01:13:18):
was a feeling.

Speaker 1 (01:13:19):
With along with it. What you mean to tell me what?
There's a feeling you know how to evoke that. So
I think Clubhouse was one of.

Speaker 2 (01:13:30):
The contributing factors in how Whack one hundred kind of
powered itself up in the content world to get Big
You out the way. If you have an enemy like
Whack and you dirty and he has all these platforms
in different relationships, you gotta get clean. You can't still

(01:13:53):
be dirty with dude, because if he finds something out
and they say something.

Speaker 1 (01:13:58):
Over there, someone in one of their rooms bring.

Speaker 2 (01:14:00):
It up and it's on the see they do it
under the guise of it's on the Internet. But what
they don't tell you is anybody can put something on
the Internet. So I can put it on the Internet
and then say it's on the internet. Man, There's so
many layers to this that I want you guys to
really consider.

Speaker 4 (01:14:19):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:14:19):
I want to talk about shortly after Big U brick
Baby and all these other dudes were indicted.

Speaker 1 (01:14:29):
Academics.

Speaker 2 (01:14:30):
Glad no jumper whacked one hundred met up to have
a conversation.

Speaker 1 (01:14:35):
Let's take a look at some of that

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